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Hey guys, welcome to What's the 
Call the podcast where sports 

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meets side eye. 
We're here to breakdown the 

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matches, the meltdowns and the 
moments that make us pause and 

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say, what was that call? 
I'm Theo. 

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I'm Andrea. 
And we're glad you're here. 

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Whether you're sports obsessed 
or just here for the drama, 

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there's a seat for you 
courtside, so let's dive in. 

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Hi guys. 
Welcome back to another episode 

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of What's the Call? 
This week we've got a slightly 

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chaotic one. 
We're talking Carlos Alcaraz's 

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wrist injury and what that means
heading into Roland Garros. 

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A very subtle, not subtle 
confirmation from Morgan Riddle 

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on her breakup with Taylor Fritz
and somehow also a shrimp Taco 

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situation in Madrid, which I 
feel like, sadly for you, you 

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can relate to Andrea, yes? 
I can, I can. 

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Andrea's not feeling her rest 
today because she too ate a bad 

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shrimp. 
Yes, which is insane. 

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Actually. 
That's. 

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Crazy my life just mirrors 
tennis so. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
So yeah, this week we have a bit

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of everything. 
And let's jump in. 

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Obviously, most of you will have
heard by now that Carlos Alcaraz

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has withdrawn from the rest of 
the clay season, including 

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Roland Gauss, due to a wrist 
injury, which is devastating for

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us in particular, but for all of
tennis, for you in particular. 

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Andrea, how did you feel when 
you saw the news? 

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So upset, yeah. 
I just think it makes the whole,

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I mean, for me, obviously the 
French Open way less 

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interesting. 
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that we had known that he has 
having issues, right? 

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Like he something happened 
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he withdrew from there. 
Then he was spotted in out in 

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Madrid with a wrist brace. 
He went and accepted his Lawyers

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Sports Award last Monday with a 
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And then he withdrew from Madrid
and now he's withdrawn from Rome

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and Paris. 
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we saw it coming, knew there was
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But I, yeah, I was in, I was in 
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and I was walking through the 
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It's like, you know, along the 
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I'm like looking at my phone and
suddenly, like, the athletic 

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notification popped up and I 
just, like, said really loud. 

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I was just like, oh, fuck to. 
And my colleague was like, what?

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And I was like, oh, Kohlzak, I 
was with the French Open. 

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He was like, no, I was like, 
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So that was my reaction. 
I was like, like, that really, 

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really sucks. 
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probably the wise call to make. 
Right on. 

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Definitely for him and his team 
because yeah, injury is not a 

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joke. 
Wrist injuries are so scary. 

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Wrist injuries are incredibly 
scary and tough to come back 

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from. 
We've seen it in two cases 

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already. 
Actually in two pretty high 

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profile, let's say cases on the 
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So Dominic team cut his career 
short and retired in 2024 at 

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just 31 years old and was never 
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And then going back a little 
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his career was like defined by 
it, right? 

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You remember that he sort of was
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shortly after winning the US 
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season. 
He pretty much withdrew from the

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entire season and never fully 
recovered. 

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Yeah, I remember Del Potro, I 
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I think he beat him 626262 in 
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being like, holy shit, this is 
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This guy is going to now be a 
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Yeah, for slams. 
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And then his career was 
completely derailed by by a 

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wrist injury, which is why it's 
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better. 
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I mean, Carlos is making the 
right decision. 

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Of course. 
Very prudent about it. 

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I'm sure he's in the best hands,
of course, one would hope and 

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getting all the expert advice 
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mean, devastating for this clay 
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career can continue as normal 
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as the other two we just 
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a disaster. 
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I saw a Spanish sports 
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Twitter that the rumor is that 
Carlos has a case of 

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tenosynovitis. 
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This is not even a joke and it's
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serious. 
But that is what I had last year

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and it's derailed. 
It's derailed my tennis career. 

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I cannot get through an hour on 
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You can't, no. 
It's awful. 

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It's really bad. 
You remember when I was drawing 

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with my wrist, right? 
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And I recently started playing 
again and it's fine, but you can

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just feel it. 
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taking his injury a lot more 
seriously than I was, but it was

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horrible, horrible. 
So I can relate his. 

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Point is that it's not that 
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I'm sure if you take it 
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be, he's going to be fine. 
And I think it's just something 

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that feels like it's recurring 
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Like I think if you have a 
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But I'm sure obviously he's 
managing it in all the right 

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ways. 
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like 3 months and that was it. 
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daily, hourly probably at this 
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So. 
He also wrote that Rafa had the 

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same injury in 2014 and he was 
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OK, there we go. 
Sweet. 

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There we go. 
All is well. 

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So yeah, ultimately, Carlos, I 
can relate and wishing you a 

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very speedy recovery. 
I have no doubt that he will be 

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back. 
But the question I guess is will

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he be back in time for the grass
or would it be more responsible 

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of him to skip the grass? 
I just grass is very like injury

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prone surface. 
Do you know what I mean? 

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And there's no time in between 
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and the grass season. 
I know. 

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So yes, he was pretty. 
He clearly doesn't even know. 

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No, I don't think you can tell. 
I think it's to be like a he'll 

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see in the moment. 
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if it is Tino Sinoitis like he 
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Yeah, hopefully he will be back 
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It would just. 
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If he missed Queens and 
Wimbledon was 2 slams but then 

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equally long run right? 
If it means it's better for him 

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long run, then we might have to 
take the L here. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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conservative treatment for this.
That's good. 

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And so I guess time will tell. 
OK, So should we talk about what

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this means for tennis over the 
next couple of weeks or or 

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month? 
Because this obviously Carlos 

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pulling out has a massive ripple
effect and it affects the 

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rivalries, the slam narratives 
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top of the game, which we 
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It's kind of at the moment it's 
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So yeah, let's talk about that's
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Yannick. 
He obviously, you know, they're 

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brothers in arms. 
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The press were pressing him kind
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does this feel? 
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his reaction. 
He was like, tennis needs 

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Carlos. 
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around. 
So obviously, yeah, it's super 

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heartwarming to see. 
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for Yannick Sinner? 
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I think it sucks for him. 
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I mean, it sucks. 
It really sucks. 

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I don't get the sense that he's 
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makes it easier for me to win 
the French Open. 

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No, I mean it is much easier 
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But it puts more pressure on 
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But I do think if there's anyone
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it's him. 
So he's probably going to take 

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it and run. 
I think this is good news for 

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Novak Djokovic. 
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in this either, but I think this
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Oh, I think it's his biggest 
shot at 25. 

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Yeah, I think also I mean, yeah,
let's let's talk about what it 

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I think his position in the 
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everything because I think if he
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semis in Australia. 
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He doesn't necessarily need to 
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to get there. 
Like it might even be better if 

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he meets him in the semi, right?
It's less less of a an event 

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like now that we're talking 
about, it could be actually 

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really interesting. 
And then also see who else 

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might, you know, step up to the 
plate because there are some 

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people who should certain people
who should on the ATP side take 

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advantage of this, But who 
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Sasha Zverev Unlikely. 
Unlikely him. 

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I just don't back him. 
I don't back him to to make big 

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moves. 
Sadly. 

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I don't know who else like the 
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I would love to see him make a 
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I know I always say that you are
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Are the feast, of course, but 
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I saw him, I was in Barcelona 
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I saw two of his matches. 
Oh, cool. 

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He's just so good. 
He's amazing and he won the 

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tournament. 
He's still in Madrid. 

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He's someone who could really do
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will do well, so I'm rooting for
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Yeah, OK, Fees Mousetti, I'm 
rooting for and he's a bit, he's

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been a bit injury plagued as 
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Everyone's injury plagued. 
We keep saying this, but that is

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a whole other conversation. 
It is because there's too many 

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injuries both on the men's and 
the women's side anyways. 

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But OK, so who do we have? 
Musetti fees? 

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I mean, Medvedev, let's go. 
I want him to have a run. 

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Unlikely as well. 
Ben Shelton. 

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He won a Munich. 
Could be yes. 

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Ben Shelton Vashro, too. 
Oh yeah, he could for sure. 

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He could definitely make a run. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, All in all, it's it's 
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But to make a run, it's anyone's
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I feel like. 
I still feel like Yannick will 

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probably take it, but I'm 
curious to see your your how 

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your Novak prediction comes out.
I mean, I don't disagree for 

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sure. 
But ultimately, do you know what

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this means for you as well, 
Andrea? 

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That you're Roland Gauss 
predictions out the window like 

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a month before it even started. 
I know. 

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Which is sad, obviously. 
So now you need to change your 

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prediction. 
It has to be Novak. 

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It has to be Novak. 
OK, I'm. 

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Going to go with Novak because 
obviously you pick Sinner. 

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So yeah, I'll. 
Get a Novak. 

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Statistically he's a good one to
back right? 

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So when historically? 
Rather, and he's playing way 

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fewer tournaments, he's able to 
show up and really give it his 

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all. 
Totally I. 

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Think he has a good shot? 
OK, well everyone stay tuned. 

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Exciting month coming up for 
sure. 

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OK, so I thought this could be a
fun little segment. 

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What is Carlos going to get up 
to off court during his time 

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away from the sport? 
Apart from rehab, obviously, 

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because that is #1. 
Well, he gets to be home. 

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That's definitely where he's 
going to be hanging out. 

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He's going to be more. 
He's such a homebody. 

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He loves his couch with his TV 
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Do you see that? 
That picture kills me. 

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I can't. 
I feel like yeah, he'll be at 

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home, home base, Morcia, 
rehabbing, resetting. 

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Cool. 
They'll for sure be in Ibiza. 

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Trip thrown in, although Carlos,
if I were you, I'd try and keep 

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it super low key because he's 
going you're going to get 

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ripped. 
I back it but you're going to 

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get ripped for sure. 
But I think it could be good for

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him. 
Too 100% I back it. 

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I think both of us back it you. 
Should go to the opening 

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parties. 
Yeah, there we go. 

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I feel like he's no stranger to 
the Formula One circuit, too. 

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You know, it's coming back. 
I mean, actually this weekend 

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it'll be in Miami, so I'd even 
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loves Miami. 
I don't think he's. 

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Going to be Miami. 
Unlikely, but he might be at 

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some of the European races. 
I'd love to see him at the 

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Monaco GP. 
Oh yeah, for sure. 

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That would be fun. 
I feel like, yeah, that's not 

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one that he that's like out of 
the realm of possibility for him

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to attend. 
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he's going to be at the Met 
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Met Gala. 
He might be at the Met Gala next

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Monday. 
He loves a red carpet. 

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He was like flexing the tux last
week at this Laura Sports Awards

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with the wrist brace. 
Yeah, wrist brace is a vibe. 

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You can make it an accessory. 
I did. 

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It gives him more aura. 
It gives him. 

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Aura, aura, so he would say. 
That is so funny. 

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He might be at the Met Gala. 
I feel like Yannick Sinner is 

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more Anna Wintour's poster child
at the moment. 

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Definitely right. 
Carlos is not her type. 

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It's the mullet she's not going 
to prove. 

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No, I know. 
OK, well, well, maybe she can 

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like, make it a project. 
I don't know. 

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I would love to see him there, 
honestly. 

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I think we will. 
But yeah, the tennis doors gets 

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in the way of the Met Gala 
appearances. 

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So I feel like if he's out one 
year, he should go. 

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There's no way. 
If he like showed an interest, 

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they wouldn't have him be top of
the list. 

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Absolutely. 
I also I'm curious, do you think

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when players are out they like 
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difficult? 
Do they they completely switch 

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off or do you think they follow?
If it were me, I think I would 

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switch off. 
You would. 

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But I think it depends on the 
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And if it were me, I would be 
watching. 

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Yeah, you see. 
Yeah, which is so funny. 

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I would be like out of sight, 
out of mind. 

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Like I I would find it 
triggering to watch. 

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I get that it that would be the 
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would also be quite healthy to 
do to just, you know, switch off

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like there's nothing you could 
do, you think? 

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Yeah, he's definitely staying 
tuned 100%. 

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I think Carlos was having some 
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practice session. 
Did you see that Nadal, Sinner, 

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Ego Shiontek and Jude 
Bellingham? 

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It was like all his faves in the
Bernabeu in Real's Madrid 

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stadium. 
It's like Carlos's worst 

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nightmare and he wasn't there, 
or its biggest dream but it's 

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his worst nightmare because he 
missed it. 

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Yeah, he's the biggest Real 
Madrid fan. 

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He loves Yannick Sinner, he 
loves Rafael Nadal. 

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Everyone's in one place except 
him. 

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That must have been tough to 
see. 

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He's definitely having some 
FOMO, but that was I. 

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Yeah, just sidebar. 
I loved seeing that, like, 

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crossover again. 
It's great. 

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Yeah. 
And shout out to Philly Lopez 

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and Garbini Muguruza, Madrid 
tournament directors. 

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I feel like they get a lot of 
shit for the stuff around the 

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tournament, but this was a move 
I feel. 

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Also honourable mention to Rafa 
Nadal junior and how he hits the

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ball at only three years old. 
Wild, insane. 

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No, wild, wild. 
So yeah, Carlos, watch out. 

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That's one, one Rafa coming for 
you. 

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So careful. 
Stay tuned because there is 

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another which we will be talking
about. 

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Yeah, I mean, Rafa's uncle was a
Real Madrid player too. 

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There you go, It runs in the 
family. 

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Like I just, I was so cute. 
I know and I love that he's Rafa

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Junior. 
I never and like Sinner was like

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seen like turning around 
watching him. 

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I thought it was really cute as 
well. 

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But yeah, I just love, I love 
these moments. 

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I don't know, I can't explain 
it. 

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I'm like, if it doesn't make you
feel something, you're dead 

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inside. 
So yeah. 

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With that, we will be watching 
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the next month or so and see 
where he pops up. 

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You know, our predictions might 
be completely off, but I still I

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think that should be on his 
itinerary, all those things. 

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Speaking of younger Rafa's, we 
should check in on the actual 

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tournament in Madrid that is 
going on this week. 

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We are about halfway through. 
It's always a bit confusing some

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sort of somewhere at the time of
recording it is Monday, it is 

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like fourth round quarterfinals 
somewhere there. 

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It's a two week Masters even 
which is very confusing. 

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So OK, let's start with the men 
and with one Rafael Hodar. 

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And I know that we're really sad
about Carlos being out of the 

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play swing, but Spanish tennis 
is in good hands. 

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Like between Spanish and Italian
tennis, there's not much space 

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left. 
So I'm going to pass it to you, 

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the Spaniard, to assess. 
Yeah, it was. 

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I also saw him play in Barcelona
last week and he's just so 

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impressive. 
He's 19 years old. 

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So impressive. 
And he's tall, actually, like 

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very tall. 
I think he's 191. 

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Wow, OK. 
And he seems much older, just 

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like his temperament. 
He seems like a pretty mature 

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guy. 
He hasn't even been on tour for 

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a year. 
He's a wild card in Madrid. 

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And now he's already into the 
fourth round and he beats Drop 

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Fonseca last night and three 
sets it looked like a. 

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Crazy match. 
No, I don't know, I just saw 

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Fonseca smashed his racket 
multiple times on the floor. 

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And he's a pretty even tempered 
guy and it's the first time he's

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smashed his racket. 
Well, I think he's. 

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Like Jesus, like help, but 
someone who is right, especially

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yeah, because. 
They're both 19. 

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They're both 19. 
Yeah, feel like they. 

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Both well, now Hodar has a lot 
of hype around him, but Fonseca,

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you know, I feel like there's so
much hype around him and I feel 

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like it's getting to him. 
That's the sense, I guess. 

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It's like it's really tough when
they get. 

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So much hyped. 
They need to stay really like 

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feet on the ground and not let 
it get to them because the 

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pressure is crazy. 
But I also saw like a a crazy 

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start. 
Before his first round, Hodar 

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had played his first 25 
professional matches. 

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So professional matches being on
the ATV tour, sorry. 

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And he won 17 of them, which is 
the highest number within the 

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1st 25 matches. 
And behind him is Fonseca at 15 

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and Alcaraz at fourteen wins in 
their first 25 matches. 

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So if that starts anything to go
by kind of crazy. 

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It's yeah, it's crazy. 
It was crazy to hear because to 

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hear Obama's Mamas Rafa. 
I know. 

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Right. 
It's like. 

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Oh my gosh, I don't know. 
I felt wrong. 

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History you're repeating. 
Itself. 

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Oh no, I hope I'm like. 
No, there's we need to find a 

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new. 
He needs to change his name. 

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I. 
See what you mean? 

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I mean, yeah, Carlos is shaking 
his boots. 

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He's got 2. 
Rafa's coming for him. 

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He's got. 
Rafa Hodar and then a three-year

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old. 
Yeah, but he seems actually, I 

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feel like the two Rafa's just 
temperamentally are very similar

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to. 
Oh, they are. 

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They're like very reserved and 
even keeled. 

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He's amazing and he's like very 
brave and really goes for it and

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has an amazing return. 
It's just, yeah, it's so cool to

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see another Spaniard. 
I mean it's. 

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You're so lucky having no luck. 
I'm having no luck, honestly. 

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None. 
Yeah. 

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OK, so Hodar has been doing 
well. 

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Who else is still? 
I mean, there's still like a the

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draw's pretty stacked still. 
Like in terms of like big names,

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we have Musetti still in Feast 
still in which you mentioned 

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Medvedev is still in Crazies, 
where is still in Steph is still

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in Let's Go. 
It's very next Gen. vibes. 

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We like to see it. 
Yeah, I was kind of worried 

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about this tournament. 
Felt bad for Felly because there

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were a lot of. 
Withdrawals I. 

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Feel like that's. 
Always the case in Madrid, 

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though. 
Madrid's such a weird one 

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because people skip it because 
they're like, oh, we'd rather 

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play Rome. 
The conditions are more similar 

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to rolling gals. 
It's closer to rolling gals. 

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So there's always like those 
last minute withdrawals. 

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But I think it's it's it's 
actually turned into great, 

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great one this year. 
I feel like no, I'm, I'm, I'm. 

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Actually excited for it. 
I wasn't really that excited. 

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And I'm like, I'm curious to 
see, but it's pretty open. 

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I mean, Yannick and Rafael Hodar
are on the same side of the 

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drop. 
They're going to meet. 

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In the quarters, I mean, by the 
time this comes out, we'll 

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probably know. 
But yeah, I know. 

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It's so exciting, honestly. 
So yeah, let's see, next week we

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will know who comes out on top. 
OK? 

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WTA is also, like big names left
still in the drawer, Yeah. 

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Tabalenka is still. 
In Rebecca is still in, Coco is 

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still in, Naomi Osaka is still 
in. 

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She actually plays Ilenka this 
afternoon, so that'll be 

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interesting. 
And she also has made yet 

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another fashion statement. 
How did you see her Poochie 

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headscarf? 
I did not, but I'm looking at it

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now and. 
Well, OK, you know, I like 

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Poochie. 
I think it's fun. 

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It's supposed to be like 
European, a nod to European 

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summer. 
But I don't know if it has a 

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place for if there's a place for
it on the tennis court, I guess.

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She gets people talking every 
time. 

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Yeah, it looks like she's going 
to a rave. 

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Is that getting ready for your 
summer? 

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Is that Is that what that is? 
So clean this. 

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Oh, no way. 
How funny. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Well, I also like, I quite like 

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the orange it looks. 
I do too like clay as well. 

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Yeah, but yeah, no. 
Interesting and. 

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Sponsored by Poochie No. 
Vintage shops like source it and

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then this designer she works 
with, like worked it into her 

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Madrid outfit. 
Fine, You know, the haters don't

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deter her. 
I've actually. 

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Wants to get yeah comments, 
yeah. 

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You know. 
Yeah, because inevitably that 

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will be the response she gets 
whenever she does these. 

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They're not but. 
She they're just like a bit 

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provocative and she knows she's 
poking the bear because people 

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have their thoughts on it. 
Like, I mean, whether they're 

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positive or negative. 
I actually don't, I don't mind 

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this one. 
I think it's a little bit 

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strange, better than the. 
Jellyfish, I think. 

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Yes, to me, I love my 
grandmother to death, but she 

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would always wear a headscarf 
when she would take her dogs for

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a walk, you know, Queen 
Elizabeth style. 

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That's sort of reminding me of, 
right. 

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But anyway, so yeah, she's still
in the draw. 

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All that to say, there are still
a lot of big names on the 

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women's side as well. 
We probably both think Savolinka

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is going to take it. 
But I do think Rebecca now she's

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like a silent killer. 
As usual, I want Rebecca. 

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Now to take it, you know to 
keep. 

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Things more, yeah, to keep 
things more. 

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More balanced, more competitive 
for sure. 

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Do you know I want to take it? 
I don't think she will Coco. 

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OK, yes, we want Coco to take 
it. 

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Definitely unlikely. 
Do you know why? 

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Now here are we going to come to
the shrimp Taco debacle? 

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Who is serving shrimp tacos at 
Player Dining? 

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Because that is just asking for 
something to go wrong. 

452
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There's been a whole thing 
around the shrimp tacos in 

453
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,160
Madrid in player dining that 
they have poisoned multiple 

454
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,120
players or food poisoned, 
rather. 

455
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,400
Multiple players. 
Not poisoned, not poisoned. 

456
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,160
Sorry, but yeah. 
So Ego Shreyon Tech pulled out 

457
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,480
due to food poisoning. 
Coco was vomiting on court 

458
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,800
during her match. 
She came through it, but she was

459
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320
vomiting. 
Terence Atman, Have you seen 

460
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,920
this video? 
He is. 

461
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,840
He's like. 
Writhing in pain on the on the 

462
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,320
ground cramping. 
Like screaming crazy. 

463
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,360
I like, why did he go on court? 
Why did he play? 

464
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,280
I guess, yeah, I. 
Don't, I don't know honestly. 

465
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Like I mean it's giving. 
Kabali. 

466
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,200
It's giving Kabali. 
Australia. 

467
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,280
I mean, you've just experienced 
bad shrimp yesterday as well, so

468
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,840
you know, it's not fun. 
But like imagine I just, I just 

469
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,760
don't understand. 
Like This is why, you know, I 

470
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,680
remember Steph was saying like 
he eats chicken and rice. 

471
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Keep it simple. 
Don't go for the shrimp tacos 

472
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,600
when you're in competition. 
What are you doing? 

473
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,760
But also don't serve them. 
Yeah, I feel like this happens. 

474
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080
You. 
Know pretty often Acapulco. 

475
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,880
They're always. 
Puking, but you know. 

476
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,400
Player dining. 
Just there's some sort of player

477
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,240
dining. 
Does them dirty. 

478
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520
They need better. 
Food Standards they do. 

479
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Definitely, or players should 
just stick with what they know 

480
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,120
and keep it simple. 
Beige, beige, beige safe and 

481
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:46,720
beige no shrimp. 
So yeah, let's see who comes 

482
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720
through it. 
I mean I hope they've like 

483
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,560
gotten rid of the shrimp tacos 
by now from the buffet. 

484
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Hopefully it's just a 20. 4 hour
thing, yeah. 

485
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560
Exactly. 
I mean, listen, I I love a 

486
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,400
shrimp Taco, but if they're 
going to make you sick, no 

487
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480
thanks anyway. 
Yeah. 

488
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,000
So this time next week, we're 
going to know who who made it 

489
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080
through without getting food 
poisoning. 

490
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,040
OK, So we just need to revisit 
this story surrounding the sport

491
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,520
as well because if I may say so 
myself, I think we called it 

492
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,400
Taylor Fritz and Morgan Riddle. 
Breakup has been confirmed, yes.

493
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,720
Yes, she confirmed it in a 
subtle, not so subtle Instagram 

494
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400
post which contained. 
Pictures of moving. 

495
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Boxes she's clearly moved to New
York start this new era of hers.

496
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,400
And then she also posted a 
selfie wearing a shirt that says

497
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,600
world's best ex-girlfriend. 
Honestly, kind of like that 

498
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,840
isn't a. 
Confirmation. 

499
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960
I don't know what is kind of 
like. 

500
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Respect. 
I don't know. 

501
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,240
Yeah, and, and Taylor Fritz 
liked the post. 

502
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,120
He liked the. 
Post I think he sends on liked 

503
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,600
it because I think people were 
like what the hell I saw that 

504
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280
earlier again I didn't check 
myself I just saw someone say 

505
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,120
that Taylor unlike it rather I 
honestly I think that that they 

506
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,280
just the relationship ran its 
course and they can be friends 

507
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920
like I don't think she's like 
posting that to bait him I think

508
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,400
she probably like they probably 
like agreed on it I don't know 

509
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,040
yeah I. 
Think it seems like they're on 

510
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120
good terms. 
Yeah, that's like. 

511
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Not every breakup needs to be 
this massive, like, scandalous, 

512
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,440
like who did what thing, you 
know, Yeah. 

513
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,360
I I do feel like she is kind of 
feeding into the speculation. 

514
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Yeah, you're right. 
No, you're right, you're right. 

515
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,160
But also like, so if I were her,
it's her life, but if I were 

516
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,680
her, like whatever happened 
between them, it's every breakup

517
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,000
is tough. 
But she's built her career 

518
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,880
around what he does. 
And I will say she's she's done 

519
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160
a really good job of it. 
Like she has, you know, whatever

520
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,360
your thoughts are on influencing
and like how she started, she 

521
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200
has achieved a lot. 
She has like over half a million

522
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,240
followers on Instagram, goes 
viral all the time. 

523
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,440
She did sort of bring a whole 
new demographic to the sport. 

524
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240
I feel like, alongside some 
other Wags as well. 

525
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,400
But she I think was the sort of 
OG and like, good for her. 

526
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840
Not many girls would have done 
that. 

527
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,040
But like, so for her, it's kind 
of a bit of like an existential 

528
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,480
crisis she's in now because she 
needs to pivot a little bit. 

529
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520
I mean, she can still stay in 
tennis, but she needs to pivot. 

530
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,040
And she has, it seems. 
Yeah, It seems like she's trying

531
00:30:53,040 --> 00:31:00,960
to navigate how to, you know, 
pivot into a new role which is 

532
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880
not, you know, she's not a WAG 
anymore. 

533
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480
And so it's different. 
But clearly she still wants to 

534
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,960
be involved and wants to be part
of the tennis world and the 

535
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920
conversation and so I don't know
I. 

536
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Mean. 
And he's supportive. 

537
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600
And sports in general, yeah, 
he's supportive. 

538
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Yeah, I think that they're just 
like, he seems like a kind of 

539
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520
guy. 
He's not going to be like 

540
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,320
bitter, you know, he's just 
gaming. 

541
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,800
He cares about gaming. 
Yes. 

542
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,800
So no, but I get curious to see 
what's next for her anyways. 

543
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,360
But yeah, I mean, what can I 
say? 

544
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320
We hold it. 
That is the name. 

545
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920
Of our podcast, We're making 
calls and they're hitting hard. 

546
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Let me tell you, great call. 
Great call, Great call. 

547
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
And with that, I think we should
make a call for this week. 

548
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,960
What do you think? 
Question for today is in today's

549
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,280
tennis, is staying healthy more 
important than being the best 

550
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800
player? 
I think. 

551
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,800
Staying healthy, obviously, And 
I think it's kind of ironic 

552
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,360
because these are athletes who 
take such amazing care of 

553
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,840
themselves, who are so healthy 
and yet there are so many 

554
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,400
injuries. 
And I think it just shows that 

555
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:21,240
the tour is too long and the 
scheduling is insane and it's 

556
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,760
not sustainable. 
It's bad for tennis. 

557
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800
It's like, you know, they're 
shoot shooting themselves in the

558
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880
foot because now they're losing 
out on, you know, one of the 

559
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,600
biggest names for one of the in 
one of the biggest tournaments. 

560
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,000
So yeah, it's 100%. 
It is sad. 

561
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,240
And yeah, I mean, ultimately, I 
think final call, yes, being 

562
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,840
healthy is more important than 
being the best player because 

563
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,960
without health, you will not be 
the best player. 

564
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Yeah, with that, let's call it 
wrap it. 

565
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,560
We'll see everyone next week. 
In the meantime, as always, 

566
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,240
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567
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,120
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568
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,400
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569
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,000
Bye, bye. 
Thanks for. 

570
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680
Listening. 
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571
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,880
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572
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