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Hey guys, welcome to What's the 
Call the podcast where sports 

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meets side eye. 
We're here to break down the 

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matches, the meltdowns and the 
moments that make us pause and 

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say, what was that call? 
I'm Theo. 

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I'm Andrea. 
And we're glad you're here. 

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Whether you're sports obsessed 
or just here for the drama, 

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there's a seat for you 
courtside, so let's dive in. 

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Hi, everyone. 
Hi, Andrea. 

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Hey, Thea. 
Good morning to you, good 

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evening to me. 
We are in very different times, 

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but we make it. 
We make it work nonetheless. 

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We are so excited. 
It's our first episode of What's

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the Call? 
So welcome everyone. 

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Should we give the audience a 
bit of a sneak peek into what's 

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to come, what we'll be 
discussing over the next month 

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or so? 
OK, cool. 

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Well, to start, tennis is going 
to be the backbone of this, of 

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this podcast. 
It is what bonded you and I 

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quite heavily, especially over 
the pandemic. 

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And like, you know, we both love
it, but we also have a mutual 

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love for sports in general. 
So we will not only be covering 

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tennis, which obviously starts 
in Australia, has already 

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started because the sport does 
not take a break, but we will 

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also be discussing all things F1
because that's something both 

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Andre and I love to follow. 
The season only starts in March 

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but there is plenty to come in 
the next few weeks. 

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Cars are launching, cars will be
tested. 

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It's going to be a whole host of
things to talk about. 

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Yeah, it's a big, it's a big 
season, right? 

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Everything's going to change. 
So everything's changing. 

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Everything's changing, so we'll 
see. 

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It's also going to be the Winter
Olympics, which is really 

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exciting. 
Oh. 

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My God, yeah. 
I'm, I'm so excited. 

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I love the Olympics. 
I think it's so fun to watch. 

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So those start the first week of
February 6th, so we'll cover 

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that. 
Also, NFL playoffs are currently

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happening and the Super Bowl is 
the first week of February. 

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Can't say that we're experts on 
the NFL, but I do think it's 

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such a fun. 
There's so much around the sport

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and I, I have been watching. 
I watched a few of the playoffs 

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yesterday. 
So yeah. 

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You're in the know, including a 
little. 

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Bit a little bit. 
You're on the ground. 

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Understand the rules of the 
sport, but you know. 

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You're on the ground. 
The Super Bowl is taking place 

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in San. 
Francisco in San Francisco, so. 

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The sun drives the same home. 
But I mean, all this to say is 

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coming, yeah. 
There's a lot, there's a lot 

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happening. 
Yeah, there's so much happening 

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and we hope you guys enjoy and 
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And yeah, let's get into the 
episode. 

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Okay, so tennis. 
Tennis is back. 

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It's back. 
It's our main focus, I'd say for

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the next couple weeks. 
Would you say just a level set 

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here with the audience? 
Yes, Yeah. 

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But I mean, it's also the one 
sport that literally, I feel 

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like never stops. 
And their season is insane like 

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it's never ending. 
They got like 2 weeks off. 

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Yeah, and the 2026 season 
started in 2025. 

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It never stopped, but we did 
take a little bit of a break 

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from it and yeah, now it's back.
And honestly, I love the Aussie 

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swing Australian Open. 
I just for me, us like being in 

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Europe or the USI guess in your 
case at the moment, like you 

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wake up and there's tennis on 
and it's great. 

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Yeah, it's so fun. 
It's so fun, yeah. 

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It makes the like the dark, 
depressing January winter 

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mornings more bearable. 
And yeah, I don't know, I just 

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always feel like the players 
themselves, maybe, you know, the

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most energized, the most 
motivated for this slam just 

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because, you know, it's a new 
year. 

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Yeah, and they've had their two 
weeks off, so they're. 

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They're ready. 
The longest they're ever getting

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off. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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No, but it's such a fun slam. 
I feel like it has great energy.

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People love it. 
They love it. 

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The players love it, Yeah. 
Australians are so into it as 

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well is what I'd say. 
Like Melbourne feels like it is 

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the US Open, you know. 
Yeah. 

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So that's that's fun. 
I don't know. 

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But equally like it comes at you
so quick. 

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Like maybe we can move on to 
like the warm up events that 

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have been taking place. 
There have been so many already 

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as the United Cup, which Poland 
won, wouldn't have necessarily 

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been my pick. 
Yeah, I was surprised by that. 

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Honestly, right. 
Well, I obviously wanted Greece 

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to win, but they lost. 
Germany also lost. 

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I'm half Greek half German for 
those who don't know. 

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So was Spain in it? 
Spain was in it. 

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Yeah, but. 
Yeah, they were, but they didn't

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do. 
They didn't do. 

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Well, they have not. 
No, they didn't advance. 

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And then I would have liked USA 
to win just because I like those

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guys. 
I just want Americans to get 

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more into tennis. 
I feel like it would be good for

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this sport. 
Yeah, ultimately they are like 

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how to say this? 
Like if something's big in 

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America, it's big everywhere. 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
They just have too many of their

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own sports going on. 
It's. 

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I mean, it's what Coco was 
saying and Taylor also said 

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that, right? 
Like the American tennis fans, 

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they're not the best I think. 
Or just like in general, like 

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Americans attitudes towards 
tennis because they're they have

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so much, especially now like so 
many other sports going on. 

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They have so many other sports 
going on, but I think also like 

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they're like, oh, it's so 
boring. 

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I'm like, it's not boring. 
It's not born at all, Yeah. 

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At all. 
But I'm sorry, we can go on for 

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hours and hours. 
Yeah, baseball can go for days. 

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Even NFL games like they're so 
long. 

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I know and it's so stop and 
start. 

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It's so stop and start. 
I'm like. 

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Yeah, well, everyone's in Tolly 
Till. 

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Today, Yeah, Yeah, no. 
And then, you know, they can be 

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fun. 
I just don't really know the 

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rules that well. 
But yeah, I hope that Americans 

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get more and more into tennis 
like American fans especially, 

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especially now, I feel like they
have so many good players and. 

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Yeah, they are great. 
Honestly. 

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They've got a good roster. 
So yeah, Poland won United Cup, 

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which is like, how do we explain
in the United Cup? 

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For those who don't know, it's 
like you play for your country 

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basically. 
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's newish. 

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You play for yourself, right? 
Play for your country, newish. 

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Yeah, and it's both male and 
female tennis players. 

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Which which is cooler? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's cool. 
It's very rare. 

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For for that to happen. 
Them to cross, yeah. 

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And then we had a few other warm
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We had Brisbane both men's and 
women's. 

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Oh boy, many so happy. 
With a win I know. 

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Very happy for him. 
Also a crazy start. 

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He's won 22 titles in his career
and all 22 titles have been 

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different. 
He's never defended. 

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He's just a loose, like, you 
never know. 

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You never know what. 
It's so funny. 

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Yeah. 
But I mean, do you think that 

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bodes well for him or do you 
think he's like peak too soon? 

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I hope it bodes well for him. 
I really hope he does well in 

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Australia. 
I think he has a lot of trauma 

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from Australia from from losing 
to Rafa in 2022, right? 

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Yeah, 22, yeah. 
In the final, that was brutal 

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for him, so I want him to do 
well. 

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I know he won a slime after 
that, but yeah, I hope this, I 

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hope this is good for him. 
I know I can't handle seeing any

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more like many breakdowns and 
like when he starts shouting at 

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his box, he's also honestly 
like, good for him. 

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He's gone and like completely 
changed up his whole like 

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coaching, set up his team, which
I think it takes a lot yeah, 

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player to do that because it's 
like that whole feeling 

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comfortable versus changing 
things up and potentially, you 

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know, taking that risk and. 
Yeah. 

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He's also a dad. 
So we had him. 

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He's a dad, he's a dad. 
To two. 2 now, yeah. 

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Oh my gosh. 22 daughters, yeah. 
20 girl Dad, we love that. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, he does crack us up. 

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So I think hopefully this is 
like a new period. 

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Yeah, yeah, hopefully. 
Sabalenka, obviously, no 

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surprise she won in Brisbane. 
I mean, she's obviously always 

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playing amazing, but I did. 
I feel like she just lives in 

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like, delulu land and like, good
for her. 

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She just thinks she's amazing. 
Which, like, I wish I had that 

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kind of self-confidence. 
I guess if you're her, you can. 

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I don't know. 
But like, she's just hilarious, 

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like with her little tik toks 
and stuff. 

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Yeah. 
And then she fully called out 

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her boyfriend being like, they 
asked her something about the 

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boyfriend and she was like, 
well, I hope it's not going to 

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be my boyfriend for much longer.
Like, he better make me his 

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fiance soon. 
It's like, OK, yeah, in front of

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like thousands of people. 
I mean, yeah, she's herself. 

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She's pretty authentic I feel 
like. 

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She's herself. 
She has like. 0 media training. 

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She just says what comes to mind
and doesn't really think too 

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much beforehand. 
I feel like that's a sense I get

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with her. 
She's just, she's fun, she's 

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good for the sport. 
She's fun. 

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And then, in other news, 
Switilina won a tournament in 

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Auckland. 
For her, I'm happy for her. 

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We love gems life. 
I love her and mumfies her 

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husband. 
Yeah, they're my favorite. 

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It's her. 
GEMS is her and her husband. 

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Yeah, GAIL. 
And it's like an acronym for 

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them. 
But we love them. 

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They've been through it as well.
Yeah, they have. 

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So they have. 
They're very on off, but now 

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they seem solid so. 
I'm not. 

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Yeah. 
And she has the kid, right? 

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And like, I think it's pretty 
cool to still be winning titles 

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after you've given both and. 
Yeah, and also she took a lot of

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time off right in 2025, and 
she's come back strong. 

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Good for her, obviously. 
Yeah, well, so we love to see a 

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Ukraine win. 
Yeah. 

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And then finally, Bublik. 
What a man, taking down Lorenzo 

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Rosetti in Hong Kong. 
But honestly, I feel OK. 

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So Bublik, how do we feel about 
him? 

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I feel like he he is also such a
loose cannon. 

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I mean more of a loose cannon 
than Medvedev ever was. 

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Definitely. 
I think he's like a Nick. 

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Curious type figure just also 
gives no fucks. 

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Like says what he wants to say. 
Like doesn't quite polarizing, 

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quite polarizing, but I like. 
But more endearing? 

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More. 
Endearing. 

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I like him more and and I also 
like that he's different and, 

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you know, yeah, kind of like 
marches the beat of his own 

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drum, right? 
And I think it's good to have 

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more like outspoken players as 
well, so. 

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For sure, but also for both 
Bublick and Medvedev, I don't 

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know if them winning one of the 
like warmups means anything for 

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them just because they are kind 
of inconsistent in quantity. 

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Yeah, I read somewhere like or 
heard somewhere like some like 

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pundit was saying that public 
could like enter the top ten 

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this year, but equally just like
crash out of the top 100 as 

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well. 
That's so true Within the same 

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year. 
So that might be something to 

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look out for. 
So, yeah. 

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But also just Quick guide on 
Mousetti, who Bublik beat in the

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final. 
We love Mousetti. 

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Yeah, I think. 
I mean, I do. 

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Yeah. 
I think you do too. 

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I do but. 
He can't win a final to save his

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life. 
He's won like 1 to 50 back in 

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the day, but it's been years and
he's like, his finals record is 

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something shocking. 
Yeah. 

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So let's see. 
Yeah, so. 

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Which of those results would you
say Maddow versus Witch are just

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flukes in the bigger picture? 
I think the WTA results matter 

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more. 
Yeah. 

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And the ATP results might be 
flukes. 

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because I like them both. 
I think Sabalenko winning is 

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definitely a sign that she's. 
Inform. 

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And it's probably going to do 
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the Australian Open. 
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Musetti, Bublé is a pretty 
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So the fact that like Bublé beat
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if he is, you know, 
unpredictable, I think it's it's

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a great result for him. 
And hopefully he takes that and,

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you know, does well now. 
And yeah, for sure. 

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In Australia for sure. 
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So we'll see. 
We will see. 

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All will be revealed. 
The draw is on Thursday 15th. 

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The draw is on Thursday, which 
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We record 3 days before. 
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has not come out. 
So something else that's quite 

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fun. 
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debate whether it's fun or 
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stupid is the one point Slam, 
which is, I think it happened 

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last year, but like to a lesser 
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which is taking place Wednesday 
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And basically what it is is it's
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actually play qualities to, 
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standards, but they have to play
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and women. 
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point, they get a million 
Australian dollars. 

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My God. 
Yep. 

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Wow. 
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toss for who serves and receives
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A few. 
Of them are in, I like Alcaraz 

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is playing, Sinners playing 
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the top, like people's worms 
playing top. 

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Top players are in. 
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for them because otherwise the 
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it has to pay up. 
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I wonder how that like what the 
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I know and I also heard that 
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because they're they're wild 
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are celebrities. 
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it's been said, but I wonder if 
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charity. 
That'd be better. 

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I'd. 
Like make sense? 

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like there's been a bit of a 
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it's unserious and like just the
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as well. 
I think it's fun. 

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There are haters out there that 

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don't think it's fun, but I 
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personally will be tuning in. 
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like Carlos and Yannick match or
like exhibition match was so 

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good. 
It was good there. 

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There's some great content from 
that I recommend everyone. 

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Amazing points. 
They get behind it because it's 

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sort of it takes away the 
pressure of like the tour, which

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is like so like week after week,
like you're just basically going

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in circles like chasing your own
tail in terms of rankings. 

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Equally 6 Kingslam which took 
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fall last year they paid like 7 
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I don't. 
Know how I feel about that? 

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I feel like that is. 
It's too much, yeah. 

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That's too much and I think it 
should be kept light, like not 

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so high stakes. 
Yeah, that's high stakes like. 

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Literally paying them more than 
what they get for winning a 

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slam, which is crazy. 
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obviously only given to the top.
I think it like furthers the 

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divide between like the. 
Top, top, top. 

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Tennis players and just like the
rest of the field, which 

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struggles. 
Yeah. 

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So for sure, I mean, I think 
that's like it would be a really

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interesting conversation for us 
to have and look into further at

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some point. 
Yeah, because yeah, there's a 

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lot around that. 
But yeah, one point slam TuneIn,

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everyone, I think, you know, 
it's a little less high stakes, 

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so it's fun. 
So Djokovic announced that he's 

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leaving the PTPA. 
Which is just for those who 

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don't know, it's Professional 
Tennis Players Association, 

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which is like, you can't really 
call it a union, but whatever. 

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Like a collective that like is 
founded by the players for the 

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players for fighting for their 
rights. 

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Exactly. 
And their mission was to 

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basically get give players more 
of a say in tournaments and you 

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know what their schedule looks 
like because really they have no

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say. 
It's just they like are at the 

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best of tournament organizers 
and the WTAATP. 

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So it's, it's kind of crazy that
he's leaving now. 

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He's leaving because yeah, he 
like Co founded it with a couple

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others. 
I mean, I remember they. 

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Yeah. 
Thinking about during during 

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COVID, yeah and yeah, postpacil,
I think yeah. 

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Popsacil. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I'm like popsicle, popsicle, 
popsicle pasta SIL. 

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They founded it in COVID during 
the US Open. 

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And I just remember really 
vividly there was like this 

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picture that they released of 
all of them, like standing in a 

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car park with like their masks 
on, like at social distance or 

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whatever. 
And I think the whole thing 

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really came to a boil because 
during COVID, they were also the

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players were just like ordered 
around to like travel in these 

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bubbles and like had no freedom,
which, you know, in the grand 

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scheme of things, their lives 
was still great. 

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But I think for them, it was 
quite a lot like you kind of, it

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felt like caged animals almost. 
Anyway, it led to this whole, 

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like, founding of this PTPA, 
which Djokovic had like a big 

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part in. 
And last year there were like 

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the Slams, I think, and the ATP 
and the WTA because they're all,

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I mean, we're not going to get 
into this, but tennis governance

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is a very complicated and it's a
minefield like no one's working 

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with anyone. 
And it's all very disjointed. 

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But they all like I think tried 
to sue the CTBA. 

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It's still ongoing. 
Oh you mean it's the PTBA tried 

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to sue? 
The yes. 

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Excuse me, Wow. 
You know what? 

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We are not lawyers. 
And we are not in a position to 

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comment on these like right 
technical things. 

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But the whole point here is that
Djokovic was really lewd leading

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the. 
Yeah, he's a figurehead because 

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he's, you know. 
Yeah, he's a figurehead of it. 

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Legitimizes them as well, 
obviously. 

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Like Best player of all time 
100. 

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Percent, yeah, they sued the 
Slams and other tennis governing

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bodies and like most of them are
still outstanding, right? 

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From what I understand, 
Australia, like Tennis 

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Australia, has settled with 
them. 

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Yeah, I did. 
I think this year players are 

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getting the most ever prize 
money in history. 

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Like it is making a difference. 
Like it has made a difference. 

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So it's kind of crazy that he's 
suddenly. 

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Stopped. 
I think he. 

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I wonder like what do you think 
was behind that? 

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I guess for some background 
chocolate, which is not my 

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favorite person in the world. 
Well, neither of us. 

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So yeah, neither of ours. 
So like, cynically, I think he 

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was just like, I'm retiring. 
I think he's like a bit of an 

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egomaniac. 
Like I think he wanted to be it 

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like a top story. 
Now. 

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I don't know, I, I, there's 
definitely more to it, but I'm 

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like, OK, Carlos and Yannick are
like dominating like all the 

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media coverage. 
Chalkovich just kind of just 

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like there now. 
And suddenly he's like, well, 

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you know, I'm doing this. 
And like, and I also, I think, I

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think he's pretty like. 
Give us the. 

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Whole I don't know, I'm like, I 
think it shows that he's pretty 

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that like his intentions weren't
always like super noble, like Oh

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my God, I want to do this for 
other players. 

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Right one. 100% and it's like 
OK, so now that you're on your 

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way out, you just. 
You're just like out like. 

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Exit stage then like yeah, 
whatever yeah let leave the 

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leave the rest of them barely 
even like in the top 100 yeah to

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fend for themselves yeah, 
because he kind of was the only 

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like big. 
Big gun because there are some 

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that are in the PTVA, but they 
don't reveal their membership, 

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right. 
It's like a secretive thing. 

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So but he was really. 
Against like, yeah, like. 

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A secret society. 
So yeah, let's see what happens.

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With that, I think there's also 
like an element of he, this is 

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just to like counter what you 
were saying. 

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I think he just probably wants 
to focus on his tennis and can't

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be bothered to deal with the 
shit. 

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Yeah, great. 
It's not that I believe that, 

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but I was just thinking maybe. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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But the timing is weird but. 
Equally, I think in in his 

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world, it's like any press is 
good press. 

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So let's fucking go. 
Yeah, He wants to be front and 

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centre. 
Yeah. 

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He's like, oh, Carlos and 
Yannick. 

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Hell no. 
Especially because like Carlos 

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and Yannick are like so. 
Beloved. 

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It's his worst nightmare. 
It's like the. 

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Universe like screwing him over 
like Roger and Rafa retire and 

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then like like these two guys 
and they're you know like the. 

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New 2. 
Loves them and he's just, yeah, 

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screwed. 
OK, well, we know he's not going

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to be tuning into this podcast. 
It's what are they called? 

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Novak fam, the Novak fam. 
OK, well, enough on that. 

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I think we let's move on to a 
more a much more serious topic 

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for us being Carlos fans. 
How do we feel? 

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I mean, it's I wouldn't say it's
old news because we have yet to 

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sort of see him perform since 
this happened. 

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But in December, out of nowhere,
we were both shook us. 

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Carlos Alcaraz announced his 
split with Juan Carlos Ferrero, 

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who has been his coach for I 
believe, eight years and really 

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brought him to where he is 
today. 

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In a way, like discovered him as
well, so. 

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Yeah, it was definitely like a 
father figure. 

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I mean, there by now it's been 
like, I think almost a month 

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since it was announced. 
And so many different, like, 

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there's so many different, like,
hypotheses about what, why and 

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what happened. 
But yeah, well, what are your 

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takes? 
This was a hard one for you to 

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swallow. 
Yeah. 

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Spanish and like that was a nice
little camaraderie. 

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Yeah, it seemed pretty healthy 
to me. 

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I think like it gave him a lot 
of stability. 

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They clearly, yeah, had like a 
very close relationship. 

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I think I've heard that it was 
mostly a financial thing. 

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I think Carlos is making a shit 
ton of money now and Pharaoh 

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gets a cut of that. 
And so there was just like a 

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renegotiation of the contract 
and. 

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That would make sense, yeah. 
Because it's not like Carlos 

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hasn't been performing well or 
like his career, you know, like 

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this is like in response to him 
not doing well. 

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That's why it felt like so out 
of the blue. 

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So I think it has to be 
something something else, right 

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for. 
Sure, and I'm guessing that that

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he was sort of taking a cut 
because I think different 

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coaches have different like 
payment setups or whatever you 

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want to call it. 
But like I'm sure he wasn't on 

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just like on a basic salary, 
like a, you know, like a monthly

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salary. 
Some of them are, whereas I 

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think when you're the really top
players, you take a cut of the 

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whole thing. 
Like the prize money for sure, 

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but even sponsorships. 
Yeah, even sponsorships and I 

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think like training at his 
Carlos Trainers Academy, all of 

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that. 
I think like there was something

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else involved in terms of yeah, 
yeah. 

452
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I don't think it was like a 
conscious decision of like, I 

453
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:48,040
need to grow so I need to move. 
On yeah, I think there's an 

454
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,360
element of the growth thing. 
I think clearly it's coming from

455
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,040
Carlos, right? 
Like this was or like Carlos's 

456
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,400
side. 
I think it was more so his 

457
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,960
decision or like Ferrero even 
said that he was like he said 

458
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,400
that he would have liked to 
continue in his statement. 

459
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,800
I think I don't know Carlos, 
right? 

460
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760
Like he's he's growing up. 
He's not the same person he was 

461
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,760
three years ago. 
He's a man. 

462
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,840
He's a man, I think like if you 
watched on his Netflix 

463
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520
documentary, right, like they 
very much, you know, treat him 

464
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,600
like a child and and I think 
that was that's good for him at 

465
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,160
the time, Like right. 
He's like a young kid who 

466
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,000
suddenly has so much success, so
much money, like so many people 

467
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,440
can lose their way with that. 
And I think a lot of athletes, 

468
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,240
too. 
Yeah. 

469
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040
So. 
I mean yeah, like child *. 

470
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,560
So you really need like a good 
support system, good management 

471
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840
like you know, but at the same 
time. 

472
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,000
That is so important, yeah. 
But I also think he's an adult 

473
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,600
now, like he's, he's super 
successful. 

474
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,600
I think he doesn't want to be 
treated like a child anymore. 

475
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,120
That's that's my read on it a 
bit like I think there's there's

476
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,960
it's, there's a lot to it. 
There is, yeah. 

477
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760
Yeah, and I think that if there 
had been a willingness to like 

478
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840
negotiate and like more 
willingness than they would have

479
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,960
done it like the financial 
stuff. 

480
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,720
And so yeah, yeah. 
So I'm I'm really curious how 

481
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,400
how it's going to go I'm. 
So curious because he hasn't 

482
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,640
played, yeah, he hasn't played a
professional match since. 

483
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,040
It'll be very, very interesting 
to see how he how he does 

484
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,800
without it because I mean, I've 
heard players say that if they 

485
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,000
have a long time long term coach
and they go out on court without

486
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,560
them, it's like going out there 
without your racket. 

487
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,920
So. 
Let's see, let's see. 

488
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,280
But I think Yannick did that 
too, right? 

489
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Like he dropped his first coach 
and like management stuff before

490
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,280
and it clearly worked out well 
for him. 

491
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,000
I think Yannick's a bit more 
robotic, Carlos. 

492
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Carlos is a bit more like in his
feels emotional. 

493
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,280
That's what I think. 
But you never know. 

494
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:42,280
You never know. 
Yeah. 

495
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,560
So we'll definitely keep an eye 
on that. 

496
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,800
It'll be really interesting to 
see how he does. 

497
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,960
I mean, I hope he does well 
obviously, but he seems like in 

498
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,480
very good spirits. 
He seems, he seems great, which 

499
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,600
I think bodes well for him. 
So yeah, he just wants to have 

500
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,480
fun. 
He wants to. 

501
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,720
He does exactly. 
He just wants to enjoy. 

502
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
It just wants to enjoy it. 
Dude, you're on top of the 

503
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,200
world. 
Like let's. 

504
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Go. 
And I think actually, like 

505
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,360
Carlos, like Ferrero is very 
different, like temperamentally,

506
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,320
like, he's so serious and, you 
know. 

507
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560
He's so serious. 
I do like him though. 

508
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800
I feel like he's quite a good 
like steady present. 

509
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,280
No, exactly. 
Yeah, yeah, he's good looking. 

510
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,160
He's so good. 
Looking, he's so good looking 

511
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,320
like and he knows what it's like
to be on tour and stuff. 

512
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,640
So anyway. 
He's won. 

513
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,080
He's has he won slams, yeah. 
I think so. 

514
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240
He won. 
He was #1 we're all at one 

515
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,560
point, yeah. 
And he won French Open, 

516
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,840
definitely won. 
I think he's won two Slams, but 

517
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520
yeah, he was definitely number 
one in the world so. 

518
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,480
You never know, maybe they'll 
rekindle. 

519
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,440
I think they could rekindle, you
know, in the future, like once 

520
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,440
the like dynamic, the dynamic 
probably has to change a little 

521
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,680
bit and then who knows, maybe 
they'll find their their way 

522
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:04,840
back to each other. 
So what's next on the agenda? 

523
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,160
Because there's always some sort
of shit show going on in this 

524
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,600
sport, which we love, We love. 
So yeah, did you see? 

525
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,720
I feel like this has probably 
been the most viral moment of, 

526
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,920
like, sports in general in these
first 12 days of 2026. 

527
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,400
I mean, you know what I'm 
referring to. 

528
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,520
So do you want to give some 
back? 

529
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,280
The wild card player in a 
tournament, tennis tournament, 

530
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Nairobi, who I think it seemed 
like it was the first time 

531
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,240
playing tennis like. 
It was. 

532
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,120
I've never seen anything. 
Like you have to watch. 

533
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
I think you and I could play a 
better match than. 

534
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,040
Oh yeah, that's literally what I
was thinking. 

535
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,160
I was like, I think I have a 
better ball ball toss to serve 

536
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,560
than she does. 
Like, no. 

537
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,440
She also didn't know where to 
stand to like, serve or receive 

538
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,040
the ball. 
It's like what's happening, no. 

539
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,400
No, no, like I think you have 
to. 

540
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,480
You have to watch the clips. 
If you haven't seen them, 

541
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560
they're hysterical. 
Hysterical. 

542
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,120
Like she, I think she won two 
points, yeah. 

543
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,320
She won two points. 
I don't even know how it was. 

544
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520
Definitely 6 loves 6 love. 
It was 6 loves 6. 

545
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Love no. 
She won two points because the 

546
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,120
opponent was so like 
discombobulated that she double 

547
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,240
faulted Yeah on one, and then 
the second one was like a fluke.

548
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,080
How how this? 
Is too funny. 

549
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,400
I mean, I just, yeah, I, I heard
that it was someone pulled out 

550
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,280
so they needed to let someone 
in. 

551
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,200
But I'm like, how do you just 
give a random with 0 credentials

552
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,400
a wild card? 
And bear in mind this was not 

553
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,160
obviously on the main women's 
tour, but it was like 1 level 

554
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080
below to an ITF, like one level 
below. 

555
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240
But still, it's still. 
Legitimate tournament. 

556
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,360
I like this is a. 100% anyway, 
like it was honestly shocking. 

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Like they're very funny. 
Yeah, so funny. 

558
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,080
As well so. 
Funny. 

559
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
And I think, like, yeah, it 
makes tennis look a little 

560
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,560
absurd and silly, but equally 
like, it gets the word out, 

561
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200
yeah. 
Some great viral. 

562
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Yeah, viral moments, Viral 
moments. 

563
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360
I mean, yeah, I thought that was
quite, quite funny. 

564
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,120
Yeah. 
But yeah, we will post the 

565
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,480
videos, so go check them out on 
our page. 

566
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Yep. 
At what's the call pod, let's 

567
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,040
go. 
So we're going to end each 

568
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,200
episode with the final call 
where we sort of give our takes 

569
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,440
on the weeks like biggest 
headlines and events and sort of

570
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,560
what's the common in the near 
future. 

571
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,960
So this week, surprise, 
surprise, we're going to give 

572
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,920
our AO predictions and hot 
takes. 

573
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,080
So yeah, Andrea winner on the 
men's, winner on the women's. 

574
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520
OK, head or heart, we can go. 
Head. 

575
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,360
No, I know exactly. 
Head or heart. 

576
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,800
I was going to say, what do you 
well know? 

577
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Head. 
Head. 

578
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,000
Head. 
Head. 

579
00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Head I think Yanick is going to 
win the men's side and Sabalenka

580
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:08,040
is going to win the women's so. 
I mean, I would tend to agree, 

581
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:14,400
but is that boring? 
My I mean, yeah, I mean, no, 

582
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,280
it's not boring that they're the
two favorites like they're. 

583
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,760
They're definitely 2 favorites, 
but OK, so let's throw in like 2

584
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,800
that we think could challenge 
them. 

585
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Two on each side. 
So for me, I'm going to say, 

586
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,320
obviously, Carlos, you never 
know. 

587
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,000
I mean, given what we just 
talked about. 

588
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,120
But then I'm also going to say 
Danielle. 

589
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Same. 
I was, I was thinking Danielle 

590
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,640
too. 
Yeah, OK. 

591
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,720
Yeah, because I don't really see
anyone else taking it to, to be 

592
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680
honest. 
No, I don't think Djokovic is. 

593
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Used to be like a rogue quantity
like Daniel or even Bublec. 

594
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Yeah, to like come in and just 
stir things up. 

595
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Because, like Vera Fritz, I 
don't. 

596
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Know no, no, I just I don't see 
it. 

597
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Maybe later in the year, but not
now. 

598
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,400
No, on the women's side. 
Coco I think. 

599
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Yeah, Coco. 
Yeah. 

600
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,960
Anyone else? 
I don't know, maybe. 

601
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,440
I will say Rebecca. 
Now you know. 

602
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,760
What she's been like, she's a 
bit of a silent killer. 

603
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Yeah, her whole situation, her 
whole drama with her coach and 

604
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
stuff. 
For sure, but that's crazy. 

605
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Yeah, that's crazy. 
She could come in creeping but I

606
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600
I do think the WTA side's way 
more open obviously than. 

607
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Always. 
Like, yeah, always. 

608
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040
But yeah, Coco would be nice. 
I would like Coco, but I feel 

609
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,840
like she's, I don't know, she's 
got, like, serving yips and 

610
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440
like, she needs to sort a few 
things out. 

611
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Yeah. 
So yeah. 

612
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,440
OK. 
And then a weird hot tape for 

613
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520
the tournament, like someone you
think's going to make a run 

614
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880
randomly, like not to the final 
or even an upset. 

615
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Like, I know I'm going to 
contradict myself. 

616
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Like Djokovic, you know, like, 
say, like thinking that he's not

617
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440
going to do anything, but maybe 
maybe suddenly he's just like 

618
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,240
locked in and beats, beats 
either Yannick or Carlos, which 

619
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,360
no one expects. 
And you know those. 

620
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Oh my God. 
Yeah, yeah. 

621
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,960
And I think also he like, I 
don't think anyone would 

622
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360
consider him a favourite now. 
And maybe he uses that as kind 

623
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,520
of like fuel to be like, fuck 
you guys, I'm gonna. 

624
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480
The Dark. 
Horse, I'm not gone yet. 

625
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560
I'm not retiring like it's not 
over for me. 

626
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080
No, yeah. 
Yeah, true. 

627
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,480
No. 
That's a good, I hope not, but 

628
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,320
yeah. 
I'll I'll do women's. 

629
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Well, there's this like nude up 
and Comer German player called 

630
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Eve Elise on the women side who 
I feel like be cool if she made 

631
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440
a run. 
I don't know if she will watch 

632
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,880
her lose first round, but I've 
just jinxed her. 

633
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160
But Benny would be nice if she 
made a run, yeah. 

634
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760
OK. 
All right, we'll go for her. 

635
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Yeah, we got to put like some 
rogue things out there. 

636
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Otherwise it's just boring 
because sometimes, like, yeah, 

637
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,960
it can't be too predictable. 
But that's the thing with 

638
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,440
tennis, you actually just don't 
know until they get out on the 

639
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,000
court like. 
Yeah, they have a bad day and 

640
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
it's it's over. 
Forget it, forget it. 

641
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,080
They have a fight with their 
boyfriend or girlfriend. 

642
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,280
It's done. 
It's done, you say? 

643
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Yeah, that's it for this week, 
but we hope you keep tuning in. 

644
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,560
And yeah, lots more to come. 
We'll be back next week for the 

645
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,920
start of the tournament, which 
is really exciting. 

646
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,800
So exciting, I can't wait. 
Thanks for listening. 

647
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,600
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648
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649
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650
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