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Hey guys, welcome to What's the 
Call the podcast where sports 

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meets side eye. 
We're here to break down the 

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matches, the meltdowns and the 
moments that make us pause and 

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say, what was that call? 
I'm Theo. 

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I'm Andrea. 
And we're glad you're here. 

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So let's dive in. 
Hey, welcome back. 

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
How was last week? 

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I mean, I feel like it was 
great. 

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It was good. 
You were missed, you were 

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missed. 
I feel like you would have 

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really enjoyed that interview. 
I was so bummed not to be able 

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to make it, but that was 
literally no way I could have. 

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I really, really was looking 
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loved listening back to it, 
actually. 

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It was great. 
And yeah, I guess we're back. 

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We're back for another just you 
and I shooting the shit kind of 

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episode. 
So yeah, there is a lot that's 

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gone down this past week. 
Rome rapt Sinner won the golden 

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Masters. 
Switelina did the three peat in 

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Rome. 
She won it for a third time. 

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And then also my personal 
favorite story of the entire 

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tournament isn't any of that, 
but it's the partnership that 

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the tournament did with Jamelli 
Hospital and that produced 

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really like heart warming 
moments, I felt. 

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And then we're also going to 
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Murray collab as well as 
Carlos's orange Vanity Fair 

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cover. 
Yeah. 

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So all that to come in today's 
episode. 

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Should we jump in? 
So Yannick Sinner, he's smashing

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records left, right and centre 
it feels like these days. 

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Can we talk about first his 
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Because I thought it was pretty 
sick. 

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Darth Sinner vibes. 
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Yeah, I liked it. 
The All Black he's playing into 

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the sort of main character 
energy that he is well, 

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projecting and living these last
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I mean, I can't imagine what 
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Scary. 
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It's, yeah, terrifying. 
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part as well, the sort of like 
don't mess with me vibe in the 

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all black. 
I always think that on the clay 

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looks pretty sick. 
Yeah, I love contrast outfits on

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clay. 
Yeah, they look great. 

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So that was a small little side 
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set the scene nicely for him to 
break all these records. 

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So the career golden Masters, 
Yannick Sinner now becomes the 

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second man ever to win all 9 
Masters. 

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Won thousands at least once. 
Djokovic has done it. 

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He was 31, Sinner's 24. 
So it's pretty crazy. 

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So that's start number one. 
Start number 2 is that he's won 

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six consecutive Masters 1000 
cycle dating back to Paris last 

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year. 
No one's ever done that. 

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And the ATP Finals. 
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So like technically 7 masters in
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now the clay court triple. 
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No one has done that since 
Nadal, which is also crazy. 

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And then the just the win streak
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He's broken the record for 34 
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All time record. 

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So Djokovic had done 31, right? 
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crazy. 
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I was, like, fascinated by all 
of these. 

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But he's the first Italian man 
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since Adriano Panata in 1976. 
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the trophy ceremony. 
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It made Yannick emotional, which
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That is a lot to unpack. 
Unpack even. 

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Yeah. 
I'm so impressed with him. 

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He's killing it. 
I am a little bored, but you 

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know, it is. 
I feel like there are also some 

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up and coming players who can 
possibly challenge him at some 

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point. 
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It's obviously that he's going 
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Like I would be super surprised 
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And that again puts him in the 
history books as he achieves the

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career slam. 
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Rafa, who also is the only man 
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masters and then back it up with
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So crazy. 
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challenged. 
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He was. 
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they're even even then. 
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would win, you know? 
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I mean, good on Armand de Neil 
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semis. 
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which across that 34 match win 
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lost three sets. 
So one of them was that one, 

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which is insane. 
He hasn't even played, you know,

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because that sounds just so 
exhausting and like this guy 

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must be physically and mentally 
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that because he did sort of have
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really showed. 
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long, grueling, intense or that 
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matches. 
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the French, which is, yeah, 
again, crazy. 

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I feel like he keeps saying 
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What he's doing is sort of 
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But like you said, yeah, he's 
just so locked in. 

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But should we talk about, like, 
the panic attack that seems to 

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be going down on court? 
I mean speculation, He hasn't 

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confirmed it obviously, but it 
looked like he is having a panic

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attack like multiple times I 
feel like throughout the 

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tournament. 
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Because he's kind of shaking, 
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I'll, I'll leave you to comment 
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expert, not in, not. 
The expert, but like, sorry. 

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Not in panic attacks in. 
Psychology. 

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No, no, I know. 
But like, I mean even even that,

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I to me it looks like a panic 
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There's no way of, actually. 
Knowing, but I didn't think it 

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was just cramps. 
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something else going on and I'm 
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No, you know, I feel like he's 
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He's so together as a player and
so but then again, like the 

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spotlight is on him everywhere 
he goes right now and he's 

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expected to win every single 
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match and he's doing it and he's
delivering. 

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But still like that has to take 
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For sure. 
And I mean, it made it much more

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special, I guess, that he did it
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But it adds even more pressure, 
you know, doing it at home, the 

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Italian presidents, you know, 
watching over you. 

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The Pope is watching over you. 
Everyone is watching over you. 

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But no, I mean, honestly, some 
crazy shit. 

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Wow, that's some really hard 
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But also just to say all of 
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he's always so like steely 
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Is that a word? 
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you said, he's taken an 
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But even like at the trophy 
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he looked emotional, which he 
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He doesn't give away his 
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I feel like he looked like he 
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Yeah, which cute. 
We like to see like a human 

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side. 
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And I think it's healthy, too, 
because you can only hold things

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in so much. 
I feel like they come out at 

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some point, and that's clearly 
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And I also have to say, I feel 
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when Carlos is around because it
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pressure off. 
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dominates. 
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Eyes on him, so yeah. 
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final. 
Poor Casper Root, he is just the

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like bridesmaid all these 
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Yeah, I feel like Casper is just
happy to be there in these 

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moments, but he's never really, 
I don't know, you never really 

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back him to win these kinds of 
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No, he doesn't have like that 
last bit of oomph to like, close

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it out right. 
No, and I think he went into the

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final playing pretty well. 
I thought the first few games I 

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was watching those and then he 
just, you know, he lost some 

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silly points and I feel like he 
gave up after that and like kind

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of abandoned his game plan. 
I mean, I don't, you know, it's 

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it's he's playing against Sionic
Center, so you can't really 

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blame him that much. 
But he did in the beginning, at 

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least in the beginning of the 
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this be interesting? 
And then? 

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I mean, final score was 6464, so
it's respectable, Yeah, against 

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Sinner, right? 
Kind of. 

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Yeah, but you, just like with 
Casper, always forget that he's 

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made three Grand Slam finals. 
Yeah, he has. 

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But yeah, he just doesn't. 
He can't get over the line. 

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I don't know why, but now I 
think Sinner's just like, so 

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locked in. 
Yeah, it's it's crazy. 

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Again, I keep, we keep saying 
crazy. 

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But also there's part of me that
was like, if he's going to miss 

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the Gucci Cruise Show in New 
York, he might as well win the 

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title. 
You know, watching that coverage

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as well looked intense. 
But yeah, it's always 

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interesting because like, you 
know, these players have these 

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sponsorships, but then they 
can't go to like lot of the big 

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events. 
Especially tennis players like 

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they have. 
It's impossible. 

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Two weeks off Impossible. 
So yeah, I'm sure they were 

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happy about that. 
But yeah, anyway, I like, you 

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know, I love Casper. 
We both love Casper. 

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So he's looking good, I won't 
lie. 

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I've always thought he looked 
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I like the beard, like the 
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He's a man, He's a dad, He's a 
father. 

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But anyway, yeah, he also made a
a funny joke in his runner up 

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speech. 
What? 

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Yeah. 
So Casper basically acknowledged

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the home crowd by way of sort of
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And he was like, well, Italy 
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Norway did. 
Obviously he didn't qualify this

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year. 
Lost to Norway. 

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Right, so there we go. 
But I thought bold, bold because

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that that's got to cut deep. 
I definitely does. 

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I feel like that's like a 
national trauma for them. 

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So for. 
Sure. 

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I mean, that's shocking, to be 
fair. 

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Like I'm not very well informed 
about football. 

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I wasn't even aware when I read 
that. 

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I was like, am I misreading 
something here? 

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But yeah, that's crazy. 
But like, did he prepare that, 

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you know, because he I mean, of 
course he was probably he knew, 

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you know, him winning the final 
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But like, it just yeah. 
Was he like already preparing 

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his runner up speech and like 
knew he was going to nag the 

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crowd? 
Do you think? 

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Probably. 
Do you think he? 

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I think. 
So or maybe, yeah, someone like,

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planted the seeds so that he 
would like. 

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Yeah, I thought it was quite 
funny of him to do that. 

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Yeah. 
So then, OK, last mention of 

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this match has to go to 
Yannick's mom, Siglinda Sinner. 

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The long-suffering mother of 
Panic Sinner. 

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If you haven't seen it, look it 
up because like, I love her and 

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she lives every point. 
Yeah, you can tell she lives and

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breathes every single point, and
you'd think she'd be able to 

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relax a little bit now, but it 
doesn't seem like you know 

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that's the case. 
I feel like she hasn't been 

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going to the matches for very 
long. 

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She probably dislikes going. 
I think she likes it. 

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She was at Roland Gauss last 
year and I think that probably 

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traumatized her. 
Oh for sure, for sure. 

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I felt like that's bad for her. 
Rough, rough. 

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Yeah, I think she she avoids it.
But like, to be fair, like I 

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know we've spoken about it 
before, like how exhausting this

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tour is. 
I don't know how these players 

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aren't like half dead yet. 
The season is just like so 

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non-stop so it's like tiring 
just keeping up as fans to be 

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honest. 
So imagine being like the 

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parent. 
I cannot even begin to imagine. 

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And even the parent of him, he's
winning every single match he's 

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playing, but she's still clearly
suffering. 

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She's like head and hands like 
this. 

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She's like. 
So stressed the whole time I. 

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Know. 
But it's so sweet. 

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It is sweet. 
We love to see it. 

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We love to see it. 
Let's see if he continues the 

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Masters streak when they go to 
North America. 

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It'll be interesting to see. 
I'd be surprised if he plays the

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1st in Canada. 
Do you think so? 

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Unless he's really dedicated to 
winning all. 

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Yeah, to doing like a calendar 
masters. 

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Yeah, I I don't know, I would be
very surprised. 

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I feel like he really needs a 
break time off. 

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Yeah. 
And then? 

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Cincy Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Let's see. 

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It's interesting actually to see
to see what what decision he'll 

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make. 
Perhaps he's like, yeah, I mean,

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see your side. 
But perhaps he's also like Yolo,

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I'm the youngest I'll ever be 
now if I can't do it now, I'm 

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not going to be able to do it 
ever. 

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I. 
Don't know. 

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I don't know. 
Maybe. 

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Because there's, yeah, there's 
four left to go. 

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So let's see. 
Yeah, I mean, it's doable, 

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right? 
Yeah. 

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But I think, yeah, he would be 
the first man to ever do it 

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within one calendar year, I 
think. 

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Crazy, crazy. 
OK, well all will be revealed to

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talk about the women. 
Yes. 

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Alina Svitolina beat Coco Golf 
in three sets. 

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It was amazing match actually 
watched this one. 

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Loved it. 
It was really like, yeah, a 

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compelling match to to watch. 
And it's her third Rome title. 

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So she won in 2017 and in 2018, 
and now we're, I mean, yeah, in 

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2026. 
That eight-year gap is pretty 

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impressive. 
I feel like she's really like, 

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you know, she's gone off, gotten
married, had a child, and it's 

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like staging a pretty crazy 
comeback. 

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I feel like I was happy for her.
I was so happy for her. 

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I I love her. 
She's great. 

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I love to see a woman come back 
after maternity leave and really

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just I feel like she's killing 
it right now. 

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And totally, it's so fun to see.
So yeah, I, I love seeing it. 

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I mean, I, I think both of us 
love Coco as well. 

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But just given Switalina's sort 
of position, which we just spoke

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about, it's, it's great to see. 
Yeah, definitely, definitely. 

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And her path to the final is 
crazy. 

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She'd be Eaga in three sets in 
the semi final. 

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I expected Eaga to make the 
final. 

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Yeah, because there's been so 
much talk about Eaga, you know, 

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being back to her best, but and 
she's also pretty shaky, I feel 

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like mentally at the moment. 
So Switelina is back in the top 

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ten and she goes into Roland 
Garris, the number seven seed, 

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and I think she's definitely in 
the mix. 

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Yes, definitely. 
The women's tournament is going 

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to be so interesting, I feel 
like. 

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Yeah, I think more interesting 
than the men's side for sure. 

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Yeah, there are a lot of like 
legit contenders, I would say. 

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And while like this final isn't,
that isn't surprising, it's 

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still a final that you wouldn't,
I don't know. 

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I love that in the on the 
women's side right now, it's 

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like, yes, there are, you know, 
women dominating the sport, but 

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you can't really predict the 
finals that easily. 

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No, you can't. 
You can't. 

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And going into, yeah, Roland 
Garros, I mean, Coco is the 

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defending champion. 
Swetelina is arriving off of 

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this Rome run. 
Sabalenko is obviously a bit 

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injured, Not quite sure what's 
going on with her, but. 

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But I imagine she really wants 
this. 

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Oh, she wants this. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I feel like she'll stop at 

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nothing. 
But should we talk about Coco? 

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Maybe she was looking a bit 
mentally distressed. 

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She hit herself in the head with
her racket. 

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That looked painful. 
Yeah, I feel for her. 

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I feel like she's also very, 
she's very emotive and she's 

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been going through maybe not 
like the worst. 

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Season. 
Year, but it hasn't been a great

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year for her so far. 
No, and I feel bad like she was 

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she, she told the media at a 
press conference earlier in the 

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week that her serve finally felt
stable because she's having 

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trouble with serve. 
But then she served 7 double 

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faults in the final. 
That was brutal. 

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She also went and did this 
TikTok trend after the final, 

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like, my top five horror movies 
or whatever. 

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And she like, listed and then 
underneath she was like, before 

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everyone comes for me, this is a
TikTok trend. 

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Don't like write, go piece 
about, you know, what's going on

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with Coco cough. 
Yeah, 'cause like, I feel like, 

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yeah, a lot of journalists don't
get her often on social media. 

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Yeah, and don't really get sort 
of Gen. 

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Z. 
Gen. 

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Z Yeah, it's like. 
Social media trends. 

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Yeah, they didn't get it. 
So she was like, let's just, 

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let's just clarify this from the
off. 

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But I love the picture she 
posted to her story of her just 

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disassociating at the in the 
ceremony at the final ceremony. 

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Literally no, but she's always 
gracious in defeat. 

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At the end of the day, she, you 
know, congratulated Swetelina 

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and like, gave a very humble 
speech, which was great to see. 

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So yeah, let's wrap the on court
and move on to the off court. 

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And I've been waiting all 
episode to talk about it 'cause 

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I'm just obsessed with the story
in Rome. 

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Already mentioned it earlier, 
but the initiative the 

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tournament ran with the Gemelli 
hospital in Rome, specifically 

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the pediatric oncology 
department. 

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So throughout the tournament, 
kids who are patients at the 

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children's cancer ward were 
given the chance to walk out 

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onto court with the players as 
their on court mascots, which a 

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lot of tournaments do, but they 
just, they often just pick 

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random kids. 
But they purposely partnered 

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with this hospital and yeah, it 
just made for some, really. 

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Like heart warming moments. 
I loved this, I know, such a 

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lovely thing to do. 
Yeah, I, it was, it was like 

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incredible to see. 
Yeah, there were there were 33 

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that stood out, I think 3 that 
sort of caught people's 

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attention the most. 
Three moments. 

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The first was obviously Sinner 
semi final against Medvedev. 

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I'm sure everyone's seen this, 
but if you haven't, definitely 

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go check it out. 
But yeah, the this little girl 

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who's just like so excited, she 
was so cute and like so there's 

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obviously 2 mascot mascots 
waiting for the two players that

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walk out. 
And so Medvedev comes out first 

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because he's the low ranked 
player and he was like looking 

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at which one to take. 
And she was just like the little

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girl was like pointing to the 
other kid. 

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Well, I think 1 was really set 
on going with Sinner. 

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Yeah, yeah, I. 
Know she was clearly she was 

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ready. 
She was ready. 

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She. 
Was ready so Daniel anyway takes

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the other one and they walk off 
and this girl's just like she's 

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already there like clapping like
to herself like so excited and 

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just like smiling back at 
Yannick. 

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It was so cute. 
And then Yannick walks on, takes

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her hand and she is like, she's 
like skipping along. 

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Like I was just so cute. 
And then? 

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I love his face, I know, looking
down at. 

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Her I know and he you can tell 
that he just like really enjoys 

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it as well. 
And then when they take a 

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picture at the net before the 
coin toss, she like struck a 

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little pose. 
So cute. 

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But honestly, I think it's just,
it's so lovely of them to do 

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this because it means so much to
any kid, but especially these 

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kids. 
Yeah, I'm just like contrasting 

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it to the walk out to Carl 
Miami, walk out against Subcorda

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in Miami. 
I know, right? 

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The teenager who's such a little
shit. 

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I'm important, poor guy. 
I'm. 

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Like, ungrateful kind of. 
Yeah, I was just trying to be, I

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don't know, I mean, I'm being 
mean, but this is just so much 

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more heart warming. 
It really is. 

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It really isn't it? 
It's a, it's a lovely thing for 

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tournaments to do and you know, 
other others should start 

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thinking in a similar vein I 
think. 

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Yeah, I feel like Rome is really
this year. 

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They, I don't know, I feel like 
they tried to change things up 

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and, and play up to the crowd 
and Oh yeah, make it. 

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I don't know. 
I thought it was. 

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I thought it was cool the way 
that they. 

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It was just so cute. 
And then yesterday in the final 

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as well, the mascot was like 
visibly limping and he was 

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really little little boy, so 
Sinner to like sort of almost 

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bend down a bit, but he also 
like totally slowed down his 

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pace and I was just like, oh, 
this was like, of course he was 

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going to do that. 
I mean, I would, one would hope 

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anyone would, but I don't know. 
It was just so cute, so cute to 

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see. 
And I think it's like a bit of a

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moment of like, OK, I am so 
fortunate to be in this 

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position. 
Like, yes, you're walking out 

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there to try and complete the 
Golden Masters. 

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Like it's a reality check. 
For them, yeah, definitely. 

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The way Yannick handled them in 
particular. 

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I mean, maybe. 
I know it's got a lot of air 

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time, but like it just, yeah, I 
loved, loved to see it. 

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He's a sweet, sweet man. 
He is, he is. 

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It's nice that like, someone 
like that is also, you know, 

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dominating the sport because you
don't need to be like an asshole

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to be. 
Yeah. 

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Successful and then the third 
moment we need to talk about I'm

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sorry I'm already dying. 
Luciano Darderi's semi final 

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walk out against rude. 
He so rude, comes out, takes the

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hand of 1, and then Darderi 
comes like strutting out. 

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He literally looked like he'd 
just been booked for a sort of 

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Demner show. 
I'm like, are you walking for 

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Gucci in New York? 
Because he just stormed out of 

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there like blue Steel with these
Emporio ridiculous Emporio 

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Armani sunglasses no less. 
Not even anything cool. 

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Sorry, subtle Dick, but like 
what are you doing? 

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And just completely ignore the 
child basically. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, he was having a main 
character moment. 

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That's crazy. 
I mean, I think, yeah, him being

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Italian and playing in Italy and
playing a great tournament, I 

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don't know. 
Not that it, you know, not that 

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I think he did that on purpose, 
of course not. 

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But it kind of got to his head 
and it just was not a good look 

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for him. 
But I also really feel for him. 

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Me too, because it's. 
Such a douche he. 

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Looks like such a douche and 
that's one way to really come 

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back. 
Like crashing back down and then

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to lose and then to lose, yeah. 
6161. 

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Oh God, yeah. 
It's just so embarrassing after 

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that whole thing, so I feel 
really bad for him. 

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I do as well and but like he was
also like ordering espressos to 

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the core earlier in the week. 
I'm like, what are you on bro? 

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00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,080
I I don't know, but he did 
obviously apologize. 

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00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,680
Yeah, and there's no, you know, 
of course he did not see the 

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poor girl who's waiting for him,
but. 

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No, And there's the the argument
that they're nervous for them 

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match and you know, he's at home
and all of that. 

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But like it's just also a 
reminder to just always stay 

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humble. 
Unlike, it's not all about you, 

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you know. 
Yeah. 

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And also the tournament, again, 
this was great on their part. 

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They brought the little girl, 
her name was Camilla. 

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I think back out for the coin 
toss at the final yesterday, 

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which is great. 
Yeah, because that's what I when

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I first saw the clip, I was 
like, I'm I just feel bad for 

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the poor sweet girl who was 
expecting to walk out with him. 

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So I'm really glad they brought 
her back out Those. 

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That was the right move for 
sure. 100% they're doing it 

451
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,440
right in Rome. 
So yeah, big fans of a Rome 

452
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,880
tournament. 
I feel like every monster this 

453
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,720
year has been, there's been like
a lot of talking points. 

454
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720
Yeah, even despite, especially 
on the men's side, the same 

455
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,640
person winning every tournament,
they've they've been, they've 

456
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,280
been great. 
All righty. 

457
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:33,480
So big, big news announced last 
Tuesday, Andy Murray is joining 

458
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,560
Jack Draper's cross court 
coaching team. 

459
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,200
It's a strong British collab for
the grass season no less. 

460
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040
Like people are going to be 
freaking out. 

461
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,760
I love it too. 
Yeah, I feel like it's smart 

462
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,840
too, because also, and he 
obviously understands the 

463
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280
pressure of being the British 
favorite. 

464
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,520
Yes, absolutely. 
He understands the pressure of 

465
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,200
that. 
He obviously also can't like 

466
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,360
keep it in a in his pants and 
just keep away from the tennis. 

467
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:07,160
He can't. 
Let go. 

468
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,160
He can't let. 
Go. 

469
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,240
He cannot let go. 
But he also obviously Draper has

470
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,160
been pretty injured. 
He's been dealing with multiple 

471
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,680
injuries over the course of the 
last few months and who better 

472
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,680
to bring in that? 
Andy Murray, the king of the 

473
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,520
comeback, You mean? 
He literally like did insane 

474
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,160
things with a metal hip. 
So he has that side of things 

475
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280
too. 
Not only like British, but also 

476
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,560
injured. 
True. 

477
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Yeah, true. 
I also have just developed such 

478
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,560
fondness for Andy Murray. 
I used to really dislike him 

479
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,600
just because of his on court 
demeanor but once I started like

480
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,480
looking into him behind the 
scenes I he is one-of-a-kind. 

481
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,720
He's so funny. 
And I'll never forget the 

482
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,480
anecdote that your dad tells. 
I think it was in 2013, he met 

483
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,120
Rafa in New York because they 
were staying in the same hotel 

484
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,200
and he had a conversation with 
him and and asked Rafa who his 

485
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960
favorite player is to hang out 
with. 

486
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,520
And Rafa said Andy Murray and I 
was pretty, yeah, I remember 

487
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
hearing that and being like, oh,
that's, you know, surprising, 

488
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,640
but I totally believe it. 
Very surprised, and I didn't 

489
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,360
believe it first, but now, not 
now, but over the last few years

490
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,560
where, you know, both you and I 
have become more clued in on, 

491
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,440
like, what these personalities 
are like, maybe off the court. 

492
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,080
It makes total sense. 
Yeah. 

493
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Yeah. 
I think he's a lot of people's 

494
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,520
favorite. 
I wouldn't be surprised. 

495
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:46,240
Yeah, and he is kind of like a 
father figure type guy and he's 

496
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720
just always in the conversation,
as he said, like he can't, he 

497
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,480
can't let go and I'm glad he 
does. 

498
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520
It like me too. 
I'm so excited to see this 

499
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,200
collab. 
I guess we'll see the first of 

500
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,000
it, maybe at Queens. 
Yes. 

501
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Yeah, so now I'm excited. 
I really, I can't wait. 

502
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Also just like throwing it back 
to their car. 

503
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Video of I will walk 1000 miles 
or 10,000 What is it? 

504
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Is it 1000 miles? 
5. 5. 100 miles. 500 miles, 

505
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,640
whatever, however many miles. 
That's just too funny where, you

506
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,320
know, Jack Draper's there. 
Like, I don't know, like, like 

507
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,800
pounding some beers and Murray's
driving and they're singing the 

508
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,080
song. 
It's just, I love it. 

509
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,400
It's all coming full circle. 
I, I can't wait to can't wait 

510
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,920
for the collab to go live. 
So yeah, let's see. 

511
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Hopefully they can also achieve 
something. 

512
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,560
I know I feel so bad for Jack. 
I know he's had such a tough 

513
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,600
year, so many injuries, and as 
you said, it'll be good for him 

514
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720
to be working with someone who 
had, you know, all these 

515
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400
injuries and was able to come 
back from them and do really 

516
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600
well. 
Yeah, to overcome them for sure.

517
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

518
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,960
We will be watching that duo 
closely. 

519
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Like, we definitely have to talk
about the Carlos Vanity Fair 

520
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,600
cover. 
Oh my God. 

521
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Yeah, yeah, it was the cover. 
Sorry. 

522
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,280
So. 
Yeah, it was. 

523
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800
It was Vanity Fair's first ever 
global sports issues. 

524
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:26,320
They had Carlos, they had Asia 
Wilson, WNBA star and Killian 

525
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Mbappe as the covers, which is 
like pretty stacked set of cover

526
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,200
stars. 
And I just love to see them put 

527
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:41,160
tennis in the mix. 
Yes, we love a sports crossover.

528
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440
We love a crossover and we love 
a moment where tennis gets 

529
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,800
spotlight, so. 
Yeah, to put like tennis 

530
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,360
alongside WDA and, you know, 
probably like one of the biggest

531
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,800
football stars. 
Exactly. 

532
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
So it's great it. 
Was cool. 

533
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,640
So what did you think about on 
the cover? 

534
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600
The sort of clay as war paint 
vibe. 

535
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,960
I like it in theory. 
The execution I don't know. 

536
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,240
I really like it in theory too, 
but I agree the execution is it 

537
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,160
just looks like really bad fake 
tan. 

538
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Yes, and and just I, I think 
Carlos needs a rebranch in terms

539
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,560
of like his style. 
His style is, you know. 

540
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400
The one where he's, like, lying 
there with his body covered in 

541
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320
clay and he's like, looking back
at it. 

542
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,080
I'm like, what is this, like, 
big. 

543
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Please. 
Yeah. 

544
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,960
No, please. 
Please please. 

545
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Like who? 
Who's advising him? 

546
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,480
It was, yeah, it was a lot when 
it came off my screen. 

547
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,240
To be fair, he had posted it in 
like his Miami dump and yet to 

548
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,320
then remove it because clearly 
they were like, what is this? 

549
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Like remove this? 
It's just like him rolling 

550
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,080
around in the clay. 
And now obviously it's obvious 

551
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760
what was that, what that was for
rather. 

552
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520
But it also just cracks me up 
because, yeah, like he may be 

553
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,560
injured, but he's still rolling 
around in clay and covered in 

554
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,720
it. 
So. 

555
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Yes. 
And I thought the interview was 

556
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840
interesting and I thought it was
interesting when he spoke about 

557
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120
sometimes wishing he could live 
a more normal life. 

558
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840
And then he said like, or he 
said exactly. 

559
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,480
I know I'm living a dream life, 
a life I dreamed of, but I 

560
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,880
sometimes wish I could have more
moments to myself to do things a

561
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,440
normal 22 year old guy would do.
And. 

562
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,160
That makes me kind of sad. 
Yeah, and and he said, I play 

563
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720
for the little kid I used to be,
just trying to have fun and make

564
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,280
magic on the court. 
Yeah, it is sad. 

565
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Yeah. 
Right. 

566
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Because you can tell. 
I think you can tell. 

567
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,840
You can tell in the last few 
tournaments that he wasn't 

568
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,560
again, like playing with joy and
he'd sort of lost sight of, you 

569
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,840
know, Carlos is someone who 
plays with so much joy and who 

570
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,800
clearly loves tennis for tennis.
You know, it's and it's sad to 

571
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,280
hear that. 
It is because I think also when 

572
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,360
you achieve so much so quickly, 
it's easy to become jaded. 

573
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,680
I'm not saying he has, but I 
think almost like you then, you 

574
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880
know, wake up the next morning, 
you're like, now what? 

575
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Right. 
And I think it's really like 

576
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,760
self aware of him to be making 
these statements and mature that

577
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,280
he can like articulate it, 
right? 

578
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Yeah, and I mean, I can't even 
imagine what it's like a 19 to 

579
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,040
suddenly blow up and become a 
global superstar. 

580
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,840
And he's a pretty, you know, he 
comes from a pretty small, yes, 

581
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,440
it's a city in Spain. 
But, you know, it's, it's a 

582
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760
small place. 
Clearly he's, you know, he lived

583
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,560
a very small life. 
Yeah. 

584
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,400
And then, you know, and now he 
lives this huge life. 

585
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,120
But he's still clearly like, 
wants to go home all the time, 

586
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440
wants to live in the house. 
His favorite spot? 

587
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,800
It's. 
Still his favorite spot. 

588
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,960
He lives with his parents still.
And while he's living the dream 

589
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,400
and you know he's killing it in 
life like it's still, it can't. 

590
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,199
It's not. 
It's not easy, no. 

591
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,800
Because there's like 2 very, 
very different worlds as well. 

592
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,360
Totally. 
And I think it it's it speaks 

593
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,400
for him that he's so connected 
to his family and his hometown 

594
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:28,000
and that he's, yeah, he's aware 
of his privilege and obviously 

595
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,840
his success and he deserves all 
of it. 

596
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,600
But that even when you're in 
this position, like it's tough 

597
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,120
and you struggle, right? 
Absolutely. 

598
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,080
And I think actually like in 
terms of you mentioned him 

599
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,440
wanting to feel joy on the 
court, I feel like if he'd lost 

600
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,320
that a little bit, this injury 
will probably bring it back 

601
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
right sometimes. 
Yeah, I hope so. 

602
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,679
And I hope having some time, 
real time to himself. 

603
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Obviously he's rehabbing and you
know, I'm sure he's doing all 

604
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
that he can to be prepared for 
grass. 

605
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,160
But I think it'll be good for 
him. 

606
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
It's probably good for him to 
have to have yeah time at home 

607
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,800
and more Thea with his family, 
definitely them to like 

608
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:19,240
reconnect with that. 
Should we check in pre rolling 

609
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:20,800
gauss? 
Yes. 

610
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:28,880
OK, because there are a lot of 
unknown quantities going into 

611
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,920
the tournament. 
There are a lot of injuries. 

612
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,280
So as we mentioned Savalenka, 
she has some sort of a lower 

613
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:42,120
back issue, which, yeah, meant 
she obviously lost in room in 

614
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
the third round, which is 
shocking for her because you 

615
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,160
always just, you know, count her
in as going at least to the 

616
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,360
semis or the finals. 
So let's see how she comes into 

617
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,920
the tournament, as you said. 
I mean, she's going to be going 

618
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,600
all guns blazing for sure 
because she wants this one. 

619
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,040
She hasn't won this one after 
last year's loss, which she did 

620
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,120
not take well. 
Moussati. 

621
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Yeah. 
Is also out of Roland Garros 

622
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,720
with erectus femoris tear. 
Yeah. 

623
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,040
So that's like the thigh. 
I think it's the back of the 

624
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,400
thigh or something I don't know 
but it's something I I heard of 

625
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,440
something to do with the femur 
as well which is the leg like 

626
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,560
maybe? 
Right, of course. 

627
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Between the leg and the the the 
butt or something because like 

628
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,360
it's definitely not the back of 
the leg because. 

629
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Maybe there's a muscle that 
runs. 

630
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,360
Yeah, because that would be the 
hamstring. 

631
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,040
You know what? 
No one fucking cares except for 

632
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Lorenzo. 
But here we are trying to 

633
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040
dissect where the injury is, so 
we just Google it. 

634
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Oh my God, no. 
Absolutely. 

635
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Nothing. 
Nothing. 

636
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,480
Yeah, but it's so sad that he 
had to pull out of Rome as well 

637
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,240
because, you know, again, an 
Italian at home. 

638
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680
And now he's pulled out of 
rolling Gauss. 

639
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,480
Sad and he's on clay. 
He's kind of, he can kill it on 

640
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,320
clay, so. 
They are. 

641
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,840
Yeah, so he's out. 
Holger Rooney, obviously, you 

642
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,360
know, big words, said he was 
coming back for the clay. 

643
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520
But he's confirmed he's not 
going to come back until the 

644
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,960
grass swing, which is probably a
prudent decision on his part. 

645
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,520
Yeah. 
Because, yeah, he had an 

646
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Achilles tear, which is not fun.
Ben Zverev has some sort of a 

647
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,280
back injury. 
He pulled out of Hamburg, which 

648
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,760
is his home tournament. 
Hamburg is now this coming week.

649
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,840
So yeah, he's still going to go 
into Rolygarros, but let's see 

650
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000
where he's at. 
He also, I think, is having 

651
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,160
just, like, a bit of a crisis. 
Like, you know, he made those 

652
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,960
statements back in Madrid about 
his level and how high it is. 

653
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,560
And then he goes into Rome and 
gets bageled by Darderi in like 

654
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,720
the third round kind of crazy 
after making those statements. 

655
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Yeah, that's why making those 
statements, I feel like it's 

656
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,440
just it's never a good idea. 
It's never a good idea. 

657
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,920
He also then in the press 
conference blamed the court, 

658
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:21,640
said This is the absolute worst 
court I've ever played on. 

659
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000
No, yeah, you just don't do 
that. 

660
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Such a bad luck. 
It's just that he needs some 

661
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,960
serious inner work. 
Further proof he's going through

662
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,080
it. 
He started beefing with the 

663
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,440
Tennis Channel online. 
I actually could with this. 

664
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,840
I get to read you what he 
commented under one of their 

665
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,920
posts. 
So basically for context, the 

666
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,000
Tennis Channel and and the tours
separately as well. 

667
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,720
They do always these challenges 
for players to create content 

668
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:53,360
for social media and often they 
ask them to do a task and 

669
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,720
they're like, you know, they're 
usually quite difficult to do 

670
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,200
and like players will fail 
whatever. 

671
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:05,640
He commented under one of them. 
Just a random question at Tennis

672
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Channel. 
Why do I do all of these games 

673
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,480
and all these promotion 
activities with you guys, but 

674
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,760
then every time I get something 
right, I get cut out of every 

675
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200
single one? 
I'm sorry, I just can't. 

676
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,880
Just asking if you're interested
in wasting my time or just hope 

677
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,440
that I get something wrong so 
you can then put that in. 

678
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,360
I know you have players that you
love to hate on and players that

679
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,280
you love, so just please stop 
wasting my time then. 

680
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Thank you. 
Like what are you doing? 

681
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,960
Go to rehab your back stop. 
Just like stop this is so dumb. 

682
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,000
It's like, so immature and 
childish. 

683
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,920
I don't know. 
This is like, again, a bad luck.

684
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,800
He obviously got so roasted for 
it online. 

685
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,080
But like, OK, you're never being
invited back to a Tennis Channel

686
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,480
video. 
Just like no, no self-awareness,

687
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,200
no self-awareness. 
I mean, anyone could have told 

688
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
him that that was not going to 
go down well and. 

689
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Yeah, he still did it. 
And also, I mean, clearly the 

690
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,400
social media teams are posting 
stuff that, you know, do well, 

691
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,200
like they know what does well 
and what doesn't do well. 

692
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600
I'm sorry you're not delivering.
Like, that's why, you know? 

693
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,400
He's not delivering, but all 
these comments on the side are 

694
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,040
giving us a lot to talk about 
so. 

695
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

696
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Anyway, so yeah, that was 
another funny, funny moment. 

697
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,720
But I'm just like, dude, back in
your box. 

698
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Yeah, last thing we should touch
on before we make a final call. 

699
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,840
Taylor Fritz. 
Sorry, I'm just dying. 

700
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,640
What? 
He was spotted at the 

701
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,760
Renaissance Fair in Irwindale, 
CA. 

702
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,440
I got the second hand 
embarrassment when I saw his 

703
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,440
story. 
What I. 

704
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,560
The selfie he posted, the first 
selfie he posted where he's I, I

705
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,600
just, I got it. 
But this is giving like breakup 

706
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,280
energy he's wearing. 
Like a full like period costume 

707
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,680
and like eating a chicken thigh.
I can't. 

708
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,160
I mean, I kind of love it. 
I think it's hilarious. 

709
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,560
It's funny, it's fine. 
What the nerd? 

710
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,560
He captioned it. 
The nerd in me had to hit the 

711
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Renaissance Fair. 
This makes me so happy. 

712
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640
OK, I was just, I was thinking 
of it from the perspective of 

713
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,800
he's been he's he's rumoured to 
be dating Olivia Jade, the 

714
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,280
influencer. 
And I was like why would he post

715
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,440
this is going to give her the 
egg. 

716
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Oh, it's giving her the egg for 
sure. 

717
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
She's off. 
It's she's off. 

718
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640
Like it's off. 
Yeah, yeah. 

719
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,880
Oh, God, Taylor, what are you 
doing? 

720
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Like, I mean, he just needs to 
honestly, he just needs to stick

721
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,240
to, you know, gaming and playing
tennis. 

722
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,520
Yeah, I mean he. 
Is just a massive nerd, clearly.

723
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,760
Yeah, and we, we love a nerd, 
but like that, The post. 

724
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,240
Oh my God. 
Yeah. 

725
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,720
Again, if you haven't seen the 
post, go look at it because I'm 

726
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,200
like, dude is going. 
He's definitely, yeah, going 

727
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,120
through breakup. 
That's obvious. 

728
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,520
You know, better than partying. 
Like, yeah, I feel like most 

729
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,440
guys just go under. 
Yeah, yeah, we love a tennis 

730
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,240
nerd. 
Keep going, Taylor, go to your 

731
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Renaissance pleasure fairs. 
So I'm going to make a final 

732
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,200
call. 
This week's a fun one. 

733
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,400
Who is the all time players box 
MVPI? 

734
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:50,320
Guess not a family member, but 
for me I feel like the iconic 

735
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Anna Wintour in Roger Federer's 
box. 

736
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,840
That is pretty much like every 
tournament. 

737
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,960
Yeah, super fan. 
I I love that. 

738
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,880
That's a great one. 
I would have to agree. 

739
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:08,240
But I also, and I can't believe 
I'm saying this, Judy Murray. 

740
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,280
Oh, of course, of course, of 
course. 

741
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,960
She's a good one. 
I used to really like, get 

742
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680
annoyed when they drew her, but 
like, now that I know all the 

743
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,200
back story I'm like yeah, she's 
MVP. 

744
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,720
Yeah, I love. 
Yeah, I love Judy Murray. 

745
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Yeah, she's another icon, 
honestly, her and Anna together,

746
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,440
British women. 
You like to see it? 

747
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Yeah, I like that one. 
That was a fun question. 

748
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,160
OK, cool. 
All right. 

749
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Well, that was it for this week.
So yeah, next week we'll be 

750
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,880
recording in the middle of the 
first round of Roland Garros. 

751
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,520
We'll have Tamara Pren back in 
the chair with us. 

752
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,400
We have all the big storylines, 
the first upsets, probably a 

753
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,280
first scandal. 
Don't miss it. 

754
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,360
This was what's the call? 
We'll see you in Paris. 

755
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,320
We can't wait. 
Bye. 

756
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,320
Bye. 
Thanks for listening. 

757
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,080
That's it from us this week. 
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758
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,880
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759
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760
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761
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