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Hi, this is Dave Olson. 
I'm the senior leader of 

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Heartland Church located in 
Ankeny, IA. 

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I hope the following message 
challenges, encourages, and 

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ultimately changes you. 
Thanks for joining us. 

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I'm thrilled to be here today. 
I gave Pastor Dave a hard time 

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that I was going to talk to him 
about his unexcused absence 

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later and so via text, he 
laughed at it, thankfully. 

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But today I want to talk to you 
all about the very exciting and 

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very deep topic of grave 
clothes. 

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Yay. 
Are you guys excited? 

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You all brought your pom poms, 
right? 

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So today we're talking about 
grave clothes. 

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We're going to start in John 
Chapter 11. 

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And many of you have heard this 
story. 

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This is a story about Lazarus 
and he he was very sick and he 

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was going to die. 
Mary and Martha come to Jesus 

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and say, hey, our brother is 
sick and dying and we need your 

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help. 
We need you to come now and make

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sure he doesn't die. 
That was their request. 

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Make sure he doesn't die. 
Well, Jesus heard this and he 

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thought for whatever reason, OK,
I'm not Jesus, but for whatever 

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reason, He decided to wait and 
he did not respond immediately 

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then. 
So that is the beginning of it. 

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Then Lazarus dies. 
OK, so we're going to pick up in

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John Chapter 11 on verse 30. 
I'm in the NLT version if you're

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reading along with me, and we're
going to read some scripture 

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here, and then we're going to 
pray and see what the Lord has 

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for us today. 
All right, John Chapter 11, 

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verse 30, Here we go. 
Jesus had stayed outside the 

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village at the place where 
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When the people who were at the 
house consoling Mary saw her 

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leave so hastily, they assumed 
she was going to Lazarus's grave

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to weep, so they followed her 
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When Mary arrived and saw Jesus,
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Lord, if only you had been here,
my brother would not have died. 

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When Jesus saw her weeping and 
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with her, a deep anger welled up
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Remember that point? 
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Where have you put him? 
He asked. 

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Then Jesus told him, Or they 
Excuse me, they told him, Lord, 

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come and see. 
Then Jesus wept. 

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Remember that point, the people 
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See how much he loved him. 
But some said, this man healed a

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blind man. 
Couldn't he have kept Lazarus 

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from dying? 
Jesus was still angry as he 

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arrived at the tomb, a cave with
a stone rolled across its 

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entrance. 
Roll the stone aside, Jesus told

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them. 
But Martha, the dead man's 

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sister, protested. 
As you can imagine as you hear 

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what she's going to say, Lord, 
he has been dead for four days. 

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The smell will be terrible, 
Jesus responded. 

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Didn't I tell you that you would
see God's glory if you believe 

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so? 
They rolled the stone aside. 

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Then Jesus looked up to heaven 
and said, Father, thank you for 

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hearing me. 
You always hear me, but I said 

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it out loud for the sake of all 
of these people standing here so

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that they will believe that you 
sent me. 

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Then Jesus shouted, Lazarus come
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his hands and his feet bound in 
grave clothes, his face wrapped 

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in a head cloth. 
Jesus told them unwrap him and 

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let him go. 
Let's pray. 

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Father, I just thank you for 
bringing us all here today to 

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hear your word as the church. 
Father, I thank You that you 

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knew who was going to be here 
before I was even preparing the 

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message. 
Holy Spirit, we just say have 

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your way in this place. 
Have your way through me. 

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And as these words are spoken, I
thank you that you are meeting 

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each person right where they 
need to be met today in Jesus 

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name, Amen. 
So the beginning or the end of 

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this story is there's a man 
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He died, Jesus came. 
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Jesus came, told him to come out
of the grave, and then Jesus 

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told the people around him to 
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Well, what does this all mean? 
Like many of us have heard the 

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story, Jesus raised Lazarus from
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That's pretty amazing, right? 
He literally physically raised a

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man from the dead, told him to 
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Lazarus did. 
Isn't that enough? 

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Well, I think there's more to 
this story that some of us, 

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including myself for years, 
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And so that's what I want to 
take a minute to kind of dive in

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today, dive into today. 
There's a lot of meat in this 

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story. 
And many of us, like I said, 

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it's just, oh, Jesus raised him 
from the dead, which in and of 

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itself, I don't know how many 
all have done that, but I have 

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not done that. 
Even Jesus working through me, I

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have not done that. 
That's miraculous and enough in 

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and of itself. 
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Does everybody agree? 
OK, yeah, together we agree. 

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But at the end, as Jesus or as 
Lazarus is coming out, it says 

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in verse 44, the dead man came 
out, his hands and his feet 

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bound in grave clothes, his face
wrapped in a head cloth. 

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Jesus told them unwrap him and 
let him go. 

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This is what I want to talk 
about today is what grave 

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clothes do you still have on 
many of us in this room. 

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You've accepted Jesus as the 
Lord of your life and which I 

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thought was enough. 
That's only the beginning. 

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And so today I want to share you
share with you about my story of

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my grave clothes and the 
journey, not the destination of 

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removing the the grave clothes, 
but the journey of removing the 

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grave clothes. 
Are you all with me? 

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OK, so just a quick recap on who
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I was raised in a great home. 
I had a mother and a father in 

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the home. 
I had an older brother, great 

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family. 
They, My parents loved me, My 

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physical needs were met. 
My parents loved me. 

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I was involved in soccer, they 
came to my soccer games, we 

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prayed before meals and we went 
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It was a great home. 
My brother, he was cool too, but

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that's another story. 
So I had a great home. 

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I really have nothing to 
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But I did realize as I was 
growing, actually more so when I

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got married, that it's weird how
marriage just kind of shows you 

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some of your issues. 
I had learned that being raised 

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in my home that I had, I did not
know how to deal with emotions. 

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I did not know how to deal with 
conflict. 

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I did not know how to do 
conflict resolution. 

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I did not know how to talk about
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And by tough issues, I mean, if 
I burnt the dinner, like, can I 

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talk about that and not have be 
all defensive like this isn't 

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real tough. 
But that was tough for me 

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because I didn't know how to 
work through it. 

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And so anyway, I got I was born 
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I'm kind of jumping back and 
forth because a lot of it is 

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tied to Pastor Adam, but I was 
born again at 19 and filled with

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the Holy Ghost two days later. 
So spiritually I was made new. 

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I was a born again believer. 
If I died that day, I knew I had

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no question in my heart I was 
going to heaven. 

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Well, as I kept going, I had no 
understanding of how to work 

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with emotions. 
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Well, I want you to know, when I
got born again, I did not 

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miraculously learn how to deal 
with emotions. 

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I know some of you could fall 
out over that, but it's true, 

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OK? 
I was here and my spirit was new

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and God was working through me 
and I believed in him and I had 

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all faith and trust that if I 
died, I was going to heaven and 

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He was my Lord and Savior. 
But somehow over here in this 

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general vicinity where something
how I pictured it, my soul and 

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my body, they were two separate 
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Well, 33 separate things that 
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is with God and it's spirit, 
spirit, spirit, spirit, spirit. 

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And then over here, your soul 
and your body, which involves 

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your emotions. 
Are you following so far? 

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OK, well in my mind I love the 
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and my body over here as if they
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to speak. 
In my eyes, it was as if they 

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were a ball and chain. 
I'll be very honest, my spirit 

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was alive in Christ and the soul
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pointless and actually, in my 
eyes, tearing me down, like 

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pulling me back from everything 
that God actually wanted for me.

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And so I just kept shoving the 
soul aside, kept shoving 

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emotions aside. 
I didn't miraculously learn how 

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to deal with any of that. 
And then one day this is a joke 

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in my marriage. 
So you don't have to like throw 

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stones at Pastor Adam by any 
means. 

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While we were dating, he gave me
a book by a very well known 

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author called Managing Your 
Emotions. 

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I'm going to let you know that 
book is still on the bookshelf 

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and not has been. 
It has not been read by me 

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whatsoever. 
But I have learned a lot about 

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soul and emotions through 
multiple tracks. 

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So Adam and I, pastor Adam and I
joke about this because he saw 

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that girl. 
You got some issues and I didn't

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see it. 
I was defensive. 

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I had no idea what to do with 
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I just thought my life with God 
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Like, what point is that? 
Well, then a couple years ago, I

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don't know how many of you know,
but we lived in Texas and God 

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called us to move to back to 
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And we were praying about, Lord,
what do you have us to do next? 

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What do you have us to do next? 
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fully believed and surrendered 
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We wanted to do everything the 
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So we moved several times. 
We lived in a hotel for 40 days 

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with our five kids because we 
felt like that is this open door

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for us. 
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It was just, we hear your word, 
we know it in our spirit, we 

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move. 
We hear your word, we know it in

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our spirit, we move. 
Well, when we moved back to Des 

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Moines, we felt like God was 
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And so we did. 
And we actually, there's several

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people like Pastor Adam was 
saying, actually you might have 

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mentioned it for service. 
I apologize. 

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There's several people here at 
Heartland that moved to Des 

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Moines or came alongside us to 
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that we believe God asked us to 
plan. 

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And it was going great. 
People were getting saved, 

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people were getting baptized. 
We had Koinonia like fellowship 

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around food. 
And man, if you have fellowship 

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around food, I'm in. 
Just so you guys know, if you're

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fellowshipping around food, I'm 
in. 

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OK, So anyway, I'm in for 
Koinonia, for fellowship with 

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food. 
Love it. 

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And then the Lord's like, well, 
well, he didn't really say it 

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like that, but we felt as we 
were praying that something just

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wasn't right. 
And I would go to Pastor Adam 

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after services. 
I said, something's off, 

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something is off. 
Another week we would do you 

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know, I would lead worship. 
He'd preach the word or and I'd 

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come home, something's off. 
And he's like, I need a little 

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bit more than that, Heidi. 
Like what do you got? 

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Like, what does that mean? 
Like, did you not eat the right 

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food yesterday? 
Did you not get enough sleep? 

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Like, what do you mean? 
I'm like, I don't know. 

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Something's not right. 
And in this, not because of me 

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saying something is off, but in 
this phase, we just kept digging

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into the Lord, like, what's 
going on? 

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What's going on? 
What do you have for us? 

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And we felt like he was asking 
us to take our Isaac, which was 

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the church. 
It was a promise fulfilled to us

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and put it up on the altar and 
say, Lord, this is yours. 

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It's not ours to do. 
And he asked us to close the 

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church. 
And I'm going to be honest, 

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we've heard multiple comments 
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How could that? 
Be. 

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Why would you close something 
that's the Lord's promise? 

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If it was healthy, you wouldn't 
close it. 

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We've heard a lot and we've 
questioned a lot. 

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It was a big soul searching time
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But like I said, everything we 
were doing, we were doing our 

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best to hear the voice of the 
Lord, process it, and then move 

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on, the voice of the Lord. 
So we closed the church. 

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So that was 2022, maybe I think 
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And we started coming here. 
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a lot of the reasons we're 
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we're here, but one of them is 
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get healthy in an area that was 
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no understanding about it. 
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attended a little bit before, we
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He wasn't seeking a job here. 
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where he was supposed to get 
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And when he took the job, I told
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I told you I was off something 
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I said, Adam, you can take the 
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doing right now is I'm coming to
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kids like I can't do this 
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This didn't get me first 
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I said I love the Lord. 
I am not turning from him, but I

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can't do ministry right now. 
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I just didn't know what it was. 
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do that for this season. 
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do, what the reasoning was. 
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knew I was going to cry at some 
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Kleenex right in my pocket. 
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what the problem was because I 
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I am praying, I am teaching my 
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I have preached messages before.
I have changed dirty diapers. 

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I have scrubbed toilets for you,
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I just don't get this. 
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opportunity to share in the 
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At this point in my testimony, I
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I wasn't at the height of who I 
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that. 
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shortly thereafter, I heard 
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Ultimate Journey. 
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Heartland does offer. 
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ministry centers in the area. 
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took the class, wouldn't you 
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out some of my grave clothes. 
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I'm going to be honest with you.
It was so not comfortable. 

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I had it in my head that I 
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I preach about God's word. 
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God, however, but I kept my soul
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there and then in the ultimate 
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points at this church, I 
realized, wait a second, they're

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all supposed to be integrated. 
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I was born again for like 1520 
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I didn't know. 
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other people or you know, I only
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what I could take in. 
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God actually wants my spirit. 
He wants my soul and he wants my

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body all in a sozo experience, 
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experienced, not just my spirit.
And this I'm telling you, this 

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was earth shattering to me. 
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shattering experience and I 
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the journey and I'm not really 
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because he hadn't gone through 
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And I've learned that my soul 
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soul is my emotions. 
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mind, your will and emotions. 
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although they're vitally 
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We're going to talk about the 
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has worked through me and 
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So that's what I'm going to give
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OK. 
So I learned through this 

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ultimate journey that I had 
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to do with them. 
So for years, I shoved them down

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here. 
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we're in physics class here for 
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So for years, I shoved them down
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here. 
I don't want to have anything to

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do. 
I'm shove, shove, shove, shove, 

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shove down. 
OK, Well, when I didn't have the

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choice because I didn't have the
emotional maturity yet, these 

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shove, shove, shove down 
emotions would all of a sudden 

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go here. 
They. 

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Are. 
You're angry and you have no 

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control over it 'cause you 
shove, shove, shove, shove down.

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We have so much pressure build 
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Can you believe that, that my 
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And I was like, oh, now you know
why Pastor Adam gave me the 

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Managing Emotions book. 
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ever had Pastor Adam on your 
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Just pray for him because he has
to deal with me and the emotions

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that God gave me. 
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Ultimate Journey and many 
counterpoints intersections here

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at Heartland is that God 
actually wants soul and body 

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just as whole as he wants your 
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They're all together. 
So as we start this journey, as 

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I started this journey, I was 
like, wow, I have some pretty 

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deep emotions about some things.
Is that OK? 

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Because before I've heard all 
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but I heard your you obey the 
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You're led by the Spirit of God.
Yes, that is true. 

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So then I started hearing that 
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matter. 
I just keep shoving them down. 

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Even in church settings, I was 
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I was like, wait, something's 
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Like I just feel so empty. 
And so when we closed the church

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and then I went through ultimate
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not brought my soul and my body 
before the Lord. 

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I've worshipped with my hands 
up, but my soul was like to me 

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in my eyes, the decrepit part 
that didn't allow, I didn't 

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allow to have voice in who I 
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And so as I'm working through 
this, I'm realizing, OK, God 

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wants me whole spirit, soul and 
body. 

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There's actually scripture for 
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It's in First Thessalonians 523.
We're not going to go there. 

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But he doesn't say. 
We just want you whole spirit. 

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He wants to hold spirit, soul 
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So what does that mean if our 
spirit is made new the day that 

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we're born again and our soul 
and our body aren't necessarily 

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flipped and made a new that day,
What do we have to do with that?

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What do we do with our emotions?
What do we do with that stuff so

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that it can become more like 
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I want to take a look at a 
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The first one we're going to 
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where we just were in with 
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OK, I had mentioned my journey 
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that was my grave cloth. 
Your journey might be different.

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Your journey with grave cloth 
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might involve anger and 
bitterness towards certain 

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people or people groups, It 
might involved involve eating 

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too much, it might involve 
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I don't know what your grave 
cloth is, but emotions were one 

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of my biggest to this day that I
know of. 

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Now I'm on this journey. 
Please know that this is not a 

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final destination for me. 
I'm willing to say OK Lord 

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tomorrow. 
What do you got for me? 

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Am I being bound by anything 
that's not of you because I'm 

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alive spiritually, but if I'm 
bound by I'm not meaning you all

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are like this. 
I just keep walking over here. 

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If I'm bound by anything 
spiritual or emotionally or 

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anything that pulls me away from
you, that's a grave cloth that I

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want to get rid of, OK? 
I don't want to be alive 

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spiritually and then wrapped in 
my grave claws. 

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Jesus clearly said in the 
scripture, Lazarus can be made 

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physically made new and alive, 
but something on him does not 

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belong anymore. 
Something on him to is tying him

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back to his old way of life. 
And Jesus is saying, when you're

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made new, when you're born again
in the Spirit, we have to check 

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those grave claws and say, what 
is tying me back to my old way 

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of life? 
What is keeping me in bondage 

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that I am not allowed to walk in
the freedom that Christ actually

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purchased for me. 
This is so much bigger than 

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spiritual freedom, guys. 
That is a valid part of it. 

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And that's where we are. 
We get to go to heaven, but 

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there's so much more. 
There's so much more freedom 

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that Christ died for. 
And if we don't look at the 

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grave clause that we're clinging
to or that we're not aware of, 

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both can be true, then we're 
walking around in bondage either

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in our soul and our body, but 
spiritually free. 

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Does that make sense? 
Y'all tracking. 

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OK, so we're going to look at 
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And when I started learning 
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mentioned already that I didn't 
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Like spiritually it wasn't OK, 
but then I started learning, no,

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God has gifted you emotions. 
God has gifted you emotions so 

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you can enjoy this walk on earth
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things that actually have weight
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That's part of what grieving is.
If we can swing to that for a 

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minute because sometimes we 
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with grieving. 
It shows you what was a value to

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you when you grieve something 
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OK, so as these emotions are 
brought before the Lord, we get 

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to decide, Well, first of all, 
we don't want to be over here 

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anymore and shoving these not so
nasty things down. 

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But we also don't want to be way
over here where we are reacting.

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And you know, I know none of you
have done this. 

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I used to do this and now I'm 
perfect. 

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So I don't do it anymore. 
But I used to, you know, if 

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someone cut you off in the road.
You guys have never done this. 

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I Why are they cutting me off? 
I have places to go. 

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I chose to leave 10 minutes 
late, but they are cutting me 

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off. 
So why are they getting in my 

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way? 
Because my way prevails their 

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way. 
So get out of my way. 

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Has anybody done that? 
No. 

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OK. 
Oh, I did see some hands. 

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Wow. 
OK, so that is one thing. 

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Coffee pot breaks before you're 
trying to go to work. 

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Are you kidding me? 
I need my coffee before I go to 

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work. 
We're over in the reacting 

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state. 
Do you understand what I'm 

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saying? 
We don't suppress our emotions, 

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but we also have to learn. 
Are we reacting to things? 

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And maybe it's the person that 
cut you off on the side of the 

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road or in the road. 
Maybe your coffee pot broke. 

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Maybe someone's name got defamed
on Facebook and you're like, 

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yeah, I know it. 
They need to be torn down. 

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Whoa. 
Ouch. 

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This isn't just the quote 
negative emotions. 

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This is some of the like, why 
are you so excited about that? 

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So going back to what we don't 
want to do, we don't want to 

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suppress their emotions. 
They're a gift from the Lord. 

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We don't want to react to them 
where they have power over us. 

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That's not an emotionally 
mature, spiritually LED 

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Christian. 
Therefore, you're not a 

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spiritually more mature 
Christian. 

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Did you all hear that part? 
If you're reacting out of your 

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emotions, you're not a 
spiritually mature Christian. 

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It's impossible to be 
spiritually mature and be 

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emotionally immature. 
It does not work like that. 

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I don't care what Bible verses 
you know. 

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I don't care how long you've 
been saved. 

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I don't care how big your church
is or what Bible studies you 

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lead. 
If you don't emotionally know 

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how to address your emotions and
bring them before the Lord and 

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not react, we got work to do. 
And that was me, Yay. 

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And I think that's a few of you 
too. 

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And that's why God is asking me 
to bring it to the body of 

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Christ because there's too many 
times where we have used knowing

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a certain scripture and whatever
degree you have, whatever Bible 

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study you've LED as spiritual 
maturity. 

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And he's ready for his sons and 
daughters to say, that's not it.

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That's part of it. 
But He actually wants us to 

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bring our emotions and our 
brokenness before Him and say, 

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now what do I do with this Lord?
Because I'm done suppressing it 

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and I'm also done reacting to 
it. 

446
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,000
I want to be who You have called
me to be. 

447
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,600
Amen. 
Even with emotions. 

448
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,080
OK, so now we're getting back to
John 11, which I've already told

449
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,360
we're going to. 
I want to take a couple looks at

450
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,320
Jesus in Scripture as he was 
operating through this earth. 

451
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Now one of the things we need to
look at about with Jesus, He was

452
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080
the Son of God. 
He was also Son of man. 

453
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,200
You can go through Scripture, 
find out that he refers to 

454
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840
himself and others refer to 
himself as the Son of man. 

455
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,200
It's three to four more times 
than he's referred to as the Son

456
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160
of God. 
So there's something in that. 

457
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,120
When God starts repeating 
himself in Scripture, it's time 

458
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,520
to hold up and realize, what are
you trying to say here? 

459
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,760
And when Jesus is being 
identified more times as the Son

460
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,480
of man than as the Son of God, 
it doesn't mean that it's more 

461
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,640
important, but it does mean it 
has weight. 

462
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,840
And so we need to look at how 
does Jesus embrace his humanity 

463
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,840
so many times. 
And when we were planting the 

464
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,440
church so many times, I was like
climbing the ladder of I just 

465
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040
need to see things how God sees 
them and trying to like get up 

466
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840
and see his perspective. 
And that's good. 

467
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,640
That is part of it. 
But on the other hand, he wants 

468
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:30,400
to meet me where I am. 
It's not just about climbing and

469
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,200
striving to see God's 
perspective. 

470
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,840
That is valuable and part of 
what God says in His Word. 

471
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,840
So we need to hold that in this 
hand. 

472
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,160
But what about our humanity? 
What about our humanity when 

473
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,840
we're weak? 
When we are, we're angry. 

474
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,720
When we don't know what to do? 
What do we do with that? 

475
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,920
If Jesus was human, he learned 
how to navigate this road as a 

476
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,920
human in authority, in authority
to God with his emotions. 

477
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,680
So that's what we're going to 
look at. 

478
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,400
I keep finding more to tell you 
about this before we go to John 

479
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,920
11, but here we are, John 
Chapter 11 in verse 33, we're 

480
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,880
looking at Jesus. 
Jesus, this was Lazarus, Mary 

481
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:20,120
and Martha, and verse 33 it says
Jesus saw her weeping and saw 

482
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,000
the other people wailing with 
her. 

483
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,560
A deep anger welled up within 
him and he was deeply troubled. 

484
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,440
Where have you put him? 
He asked them. 

485
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,200
They told him, Lord, come and 
see. 

486
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Then Jesus wept. 
Here are two to three different 

487
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,280
examples of Jesus, the sinless 
man of God, who we want to 

488
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,760
follow and get our examples 
from. 

489
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,840
He's getting angry, He's welling
up with anger, He's deeply 

490
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,440
troubled, and he's weeping. 
To me, those are some pretty 

491
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
deep and expressive emotions, 
are they not? 

492
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Like he just wasn't even keel 
all the time. 

493
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,240
He, he had emotions in him. 
He was human. 

494
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,440
God actually has emotions too, 
but that's not what we're 

495
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,800
focusing on right now. 
Jesus had emotions welling up in

496
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,880
him when Lazarus died. 
It's OK to have emotions. 

497
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,680
We don't need to suppress them. 
It's OK to have emotions, we 

498
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720
shouldn't react to them. 
But what does Jesus do with his 

499
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200
emotions? 
Because they are a gift from the

500
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Lord. 
Mostly, and I want to kind of 

501
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,400
segue there, God gave us 
emotions, but the enemy has come

502
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320
in and twisted and perverted 
them. 

503
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,400
So I just want to take that 
minute to segue or give that 

504
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
little side note. 
It's just like God created the 

505
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,040
rainbow. 
The enemy perverted it and has 

506
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040
done his tactics of darkness 
with it. 

507
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,120
God gave us emotions and they 
can be used and a gift for us 

508
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,560
and for others, but the enemy is
trying to come in and make you 

509
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,160
suppress them or make you react 
to them. 

510
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,560
So either side of this pendulum,
we're doing aerobics today here 

511
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960
too. 
Either side of this pendulum, 

512
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,120
not where God wants us. 
OK, God wants us in the middle 

513
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,920
and we're going to find out how 
Jesus did this with our 

514
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,000
emotions. 
We're not going to turn there 

515
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:21,560
today, but when you have time to
go to John 5, I want to make 

516
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,600
sure I give you the right verse.
John 5/9/19 Jesus is explaining 

517
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,800
He only does what He sees the 
Father doing and only says what 

518
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,320
He hears the Father saying. 
For years all I thought that 

519
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,280
meant was, OK God, you're having
me pray for this person. 

520
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,320
I can pray for that person. 
OK God, I'm going to be your 

521
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
vessel to preach this message. 
I can do that. 

522
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,680
But I think it's a little deeper
and a little more expansive than

523
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,440
that. 
I think if Jesus was looking at 

524
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,000
this as a spirit, soul and body 
experience, he's going to God in

525
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760
events in his life and 
wondering, OK, God, I got anger 

526
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,400
here. 
What's going on? 

527
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,000
What do I need to be doing with 
it? 

528
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,640
And then he's waiting on God to 
say, this is what we're doing. 

529
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,080
This is what you're saying. 
Jesus never got into the point 

530
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,200
of reacting out of emotions. 
It's impossible for him to do 

531
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,200
that because he was sinless. 
He never sinned once, therefore 

532
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800
he never got out of the 
authority of God once. 

533
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,000
There's a pretty big weight to 
that. 

534
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,200
We are not of that nature. 
We have sin, but it doesn't mean

535
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,560
we can't loose our grave clothes
and figure out God. 

536
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,440
What do you have me doing with 
my emotions so I can do what 

537
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,800
you're asking me to do and say 
what only you are telling me to 

538
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,040
say? 
Not suppress them or react. 

539
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:56,160
React to them anymore OK so 
Jesus is sitting there he has 

540
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:04,000
anger and he's troubled then in 
verse 35 he weeps it is OK if 

541
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,920
you guys cry. 
The strongest man alive cried. 

542
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:17,120
The strongest man alive got 
angry in verse 38 after someone 

543
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,960
said to Jesus, man, you've 
healed a blind man. 

544
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,040
Couldn't you even keep Lazarus 
from dying after they started 

545
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,280
jabbing him verbally for what he
wasn't doing? 

546
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,199
He was still angry. 
And 38, he didn't just supersede

547
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:40,120
it spiritually, which was my 
problem before I became so 

548
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,639
robotic with verses and I don't 
have them all memorized. 

549
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,520
But I knew what to say for the 
moment to get me spiritually on 

550
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,880
with my way so I could preach 
another message, so I could care

551
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,120
for my kids again, so I could 
cook another meal. 

552
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,240
But I didn't allow myself to 
address the emotion in the 

553
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:03,080
moment that God was asking me to
address, nor did I then say, 

554
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,440
God, what do I do with? 
This. 

555
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,920
And Jesus, look at this, he was 
still angry in verse 38. 

556
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,640
And then he says part way 
through 41, he starts talking to

557
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
God. 
Jesus wasn't out on his own 

558
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,880
doing this. 
He was having a relationship 

559
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,520
with the Father in this moment 
to figure out, OK, God, what are

560
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,080
we doing? 
Lazarus is dead. 

561
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,040
These people are jabbing at me 
with their words that I'm not 

562
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440
doing enough. 
They're defaming my identity, 

563
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,800
basically, and Jesus is starting
to well it up. 

564
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,800
He had human emotions, and he's 
going to God and saying, OK, I 

565
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,400
want you to do what we'll do, 
whatever we're supposed to do. 

566
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,440
And that's when he commanded 
Lazarus to come forth and then 

567
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,800
told the people around him to 
take the grave claws, grave 

568
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
claws off. 
Jesus was not outside of 

569
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,960
authority when he commanded 
these things. 

570
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Now I want to bring up another 
Scripture that many of you have 

571
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,120
heard of that we're not going to
turn to many of you have heard 

572
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,680
of. 
It's been on Facebook so many 

573
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,400
times. 
If Jesus can turn the tables in 

574
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,760
the temple, I can do that too. 
OK, here's the problem. 

575
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,440
You can't do it out of reaction 
and be following God. 

576
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,400
You can't do it out of out of 
suppression and be following 

577
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,760
God. 
You have to take that anger and 

578
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,440
give it to the give it to God 
and say, what am I supposed to 

579
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680
do with this? 
What are we doing with this now?

580
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,200
He didn't not address the anger.
He understood you all know the 

581
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,200
story of the temple. 
He's going to the temple and he 

582
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,800
sees tax collectors and money 
exchangers in the temple. 

583
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040
And that's not how the temple 
was supposed to be used. 

584
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,880
And he knew when he saw it, 
that's not it. 

585
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200
That's not God. 
We can't have that here. 

586
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,560
So anger started welling up in 
him. 

587
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Well, he didn't react and say 
get out because he only does 

588
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,720
what he sees the Father do, and 
he only says what he hears the 

589
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,520
Father say. 
So he had to go to the Father 

590
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,360
and say, what are we doing about
this God? 

591
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,880
What are we doing about this 
Father? 

592
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,560
And so it doesn't say it in all 
the Gospels, but in one of the 

593
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,360
gospels, he goes and makes a 
whip before he turns the tables 

594
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560
in the temple. 
What does that mean? 

595
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,080
God and Jesus are making a whip 
because of the anger. 

596
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,440
It's not Jesus making a whip out
of his own fleshly reaction, nor

597
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,880
is it Jesus suppressing the 
anger, saying they're screwing 

598
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,000
up. 
This is not what the temple 

599
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,160
supposed to be using, and I'm 
just going to deal with it. 

600
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,320
He had to do something, but he 
had to respond out of God's 

601
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,160
word. 
He had to respond out of God 

602
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,720
what God was asking him to do, 
not just, well, today I'm going 

603
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,400
to say forget about it. 
Tomorrow I'm going to say I get 

604
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,280
to freak out because I'm Jesus. 
He didn't get that. 

605
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,720
He had to come under authority, 
but he had to choose to do it 

606
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
every day with his emotions 
every day. 

607
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,360
And so when he was getting 
anger, angry, excuse me, he was 

608
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,280
going to God. 
OK, what are we going to do 

609
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,320
about this? 
When you start feeling emotions,

610
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:21,920
it's your chance not to suppress
them or react to them, but to 

611
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:28,720
invite God into the situation 
and say, why am I feeling this 

612
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,320
anger towards this situation or 
this person? 

613
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,240
Why am I feeling happy that 
their name just got defamed on 

614
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,000
Facebook? 
That's a valid question to ask. 

615
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Holy Spirit. 
Why am I excited that they got 

616
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,520
the ticket on the road and I 
didn't even know I was going 20 

617
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,360
over the speed limit? 
Why? 

618
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,280
That's a valid question. 
So when we start having these 

619
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,480
emotions, it's not that they're 
all true and scriptural. 

620
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,360
It's that it's an open door for 
us to invite God in and say, why

621
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,040
am I angry? 
Why am I happy? 

622
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Why am I sad? 
And that's where he meets you 

623
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,440
and comforts you when necessary 
and gives you the right 

624
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,120
direction from there after that 
so that we're not stuck in these

625
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,120
two pendulums anymore trying to 
figure out life on our own 

626
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,120
because that's not God's intent.
We are an integrated being. 

627
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880
This isn't just spiritual 
people. 

628
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040
This is involves our soul as 
well. 

629
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,520
This involves our emotions. 
And so we get to bring those to 

630
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,560
the Lord and say, OK Lord, I'm 
feeling anxious about this. 

631
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,760
And here is why you want to do 
this. 

632
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,600
You can use the Scripture, which
is true. 

633
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,240
Be anxious about nothing. 
If I'm starting to feel anxious 

634
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,200
and I only use the scripture now
you guys need to put your your 

635
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,600
ears on and hear what my heart 
is on this. 

636
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,400
If I'm only using the Scripture 
and telling myself be anxious 

637
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400
about nothing, be anxious about 
nothing, be anxious about 

638
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
nothing, be anxious about 
nothing, be anxious about 

639
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
nothing, be anxious about 
nothing, be anxious about 

640
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,600
nothing, and I just quote the 
Scripture, which is weaponry 

641
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,440
that we have to quote the 
Scripture, but I never go to the

642
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,640
Lord and ask Him why the heck am
I anxious? 

643
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:19,320
He's like, girl, do you even get
it? 

644
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,840
You had an appointment at 8:00 
and then you had a dentist 

645
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,840
appointment at 8:30. 
And then at 8:45 you had to call

646
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,440
your mom for your weekly check 
in. 

647
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,360
And then 9:00 you had to rush 
home. 

648
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,120
And because so and so is sick 
from school. 

649
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,920
And then you had to rush home. 
And then at 9:30 you started 

650
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
thinking about, Oh, I want to 
redecorate my home. 

651
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,880
So we're going to get on 
Pinterest and start redecorating

652
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,760
home and do all these Pinterest 
boards and dah, dah, dah, dah. 

653
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,640
And then at 10:00 you had 
another meeting. 

654
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,920
And at 11:00, you had this, and 
he's like, sister, what the heck

655
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,840
are you doing? 
You're quoting scripture, but 

656
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,560
you're weaponizing it against 
me. 

657
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,320
And that's exactly what the 
enemy does. 

658
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,560
He uses scripture to weaponize 
it against the Lord. 

659
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Scripture matters. 
You have to use it in context. 

660
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560
This is a living, breathing 
document. 

661
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,360
It divides the soul and the 
spirit and the joint from the 

662
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,400
marrow. 
That's what this does. 

663
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,520
But if you don't invite God into
your situation, he could be, 

664
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,400
He's like, well, all you have to
do is simplify your calendar. 

665
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Heidi. 
Meanwhile, I'm just be anxious 

666
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,760
about nothing. 
Heidi, be anxious about nothing.

667
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,720
Be anxious about nothing. 
Be anxious about nothing, be 

668
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,240
anxious about nothing, be 
anxious about nothing. 

669
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
And I go to all my 30,000 
appointments. 

670
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,080
I come home stressed. 
I'm not able to give to my 

671
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,760
husband and my kids what they 
deserve because I'm weaponizing 

672
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,040
the scripture and not allowing 
God to meet me where I was at in

673
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:53,160
my soul. 
Scripture matters. 

674
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Scripture and context matters 
more. 

675
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Spirit matters. 
Spirit, soul, and body matter. 

676
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,280
I don't want to say more, but 
they matter a lot. 

677
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:09,040
We can no longer be segregating 
our spirit from our soul and 

678
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,480
body. 
It's a, it's an integrative 

679
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,480
thing that the Lord has given us
on purpose. 

680
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,880
He knew we would have this. 
It wasn't a it wasn't a surprise

681
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,600
to him. 
Oh, my gosh, they're angry. 

682
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,680
I can't believe it. 
Jesus. 

683
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,160
He's not sitting up in heaven 
saying, why are they angry? 

684
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,960
I can't believe they even have 
this emotion. 

685
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,920
That was actually a very 
feminine voice. 

686
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
So I'm sorry, God. 
Yeah. 

687
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Anyway, do you understand? 
He's not surprised by your 

688
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,120
emotions. 
We can bring them to the Lord, 

689
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,080
but what we want to stop doing 
is suppressing or reacting to 

690
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,080
them. 
Those are the enemies territory.

691
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:50,760
God's territory is saying, OK, 
I'm anxious, help me navigate 

692
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,520
what the heck I'm doing. 
OK, I will use the scripture, 

693
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,560
but if I need to cancel 
appointments because I am 

694
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,040
presenting, I am causing this 
myself, then that's an issue. 

695
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,760
He's giving me the way out 
today. 

696
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,840
We've talked a lot about 
emotions, and that was part of 

697
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,880
my story. 
I didn't know that they were OK.

698
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
I didn't know how to deal with 
him in a godly way. 

699
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,120
I was either suppressing or 
reacting, and I usually didn't 

700
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,840
have control over when I reacted
because I would get triggered 

701
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,840
off of something. 
And then it's like those old 

702
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,240
things where it's like like 
those snakes or something shoved

703
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:34,360
in a can. 
Then all of a sudden they're 

704
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,960
like everywhere and you have no 
control over when it comes out. 

705
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,200
That's kind of where I was. 
And again, he got to deal with 

706
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,560
it. 
My kids got to deal with it. 

707
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,640
But I'm so grateful that now God
is like, hold up, Heidi, you 

708
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,040
have a soul on purpose. 
I didn't mistake when I made 

709
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,800
your soul. 
It's not a mistake. 

710
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,960
It's not a problem in the 
factory setting. 

711
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,680
He knew you had a spirit, soul 
and body. 

712
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,480
He knew the purpose of all of 
them. 

713
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,600
He wants them integrated and all
serving him together. 

714
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,400
As in my case, Heidi, my soul 
serving him. 

715
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,720
My soul submitted to his 
authority, not separate and in 

716
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:24,080
the enemy's territory. 
That was one of my grave clothes

717
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,440
was emotions. 
You guys might have some other 

718
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080
grave clothes. 
Maybe you didn't necessarily 

719
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,720
identify with the emotional 
part. 

720
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:36,080
Maybe you had a great upbringing
and you've known how to stay in 

721
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,320
the middle row with your 
emotions from your beginning, 

722
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,280
which I highly doubt. 
But I will give you the benefit 

723
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,760
of the doubt. 
That's fine, you can take it to 

724
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600
the Lord. 
OK, I'm not here to tell you 

725
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,280
what it is, but my story was 
emotions. 

726
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,360
That was my grave cloth. 
One of them. 

727
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,800
I know that this is a journey 
with God, so if He shows me 

728
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,560
another grave cloth, you better 
expect me to know that I am 

729
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120
going to be going to God and 
say, how do we get rid of this 

730
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,360
one? 
Because I don't want to be 

731
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,080
living in the bondage that the 
enemy has meant for me this 

732
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,880
whole time, even though I 
thought I was free, right? 

733
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,440
So I'm going to ask the ministry
team to come up as we close 

734
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,840
today. 
Some of you have probably grave 

735
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,800
clothes on and maybe you came in
here today not knowing. 

736
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,320
That's fine, I have no judgement
towards you because none of us 

737
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,240
have it all figured out. 
None of us have come been have 

738
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,120
been completely perfected and 
are walking sinless like Jesus. 

739
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,880
Not one. 
So my grave cloth, my biggest 

740
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,400
one that I have found to date is
not knowing how to submit my 

741
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,520
submit my emotions to the Lord. 
Your grave cloth could be 

742
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,480
watching porn, something that's 
keeping you in bondage outside 

743
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040
of God's freedom. 
That's what we're talking about.

744
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Grave clothes. 
You could be shopping to escape 

745
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680
pain. 
I know shopping isn't 

746
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,840
necessarily a bad thing, but if 
you're using it to escape pain 

747
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,240
and not address soul stuff with 
the Lord, it's a problem. 

748
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,200
You might be running to the 
bottle to escape pain, to not 

749
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,120
deal with your soul with the 
Lord. 

750
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,080
These are just some examples. 
There's so many examples that I 

751
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,720
mean, if we interviewed 
everybody, they would probably 

752
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,640
have oh, and I did this and I 
did this. 

753
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,920
Let's figure out what the grave 
clothes are so God can show us 

754
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,160
and loose us today through our 
ministry team so that we can be 

755
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,080
walking in the freedom that God 
has provided us since we were 

756
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120
born again. 
We just didn't we weren't aware 

757
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,240
about. 
OK, as we close today, I want to

758
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,920
tell you one thing. 
At the end of John Chapter 11, 

759
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:56,920
this is a story about Lazarus. 
Lazarus came out of the grave. 

760
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:01,000
The dead man came out, his hands
and feet bound in grave clothes,

761
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,400
his face wrapped in a head 
cloth. 

762
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,480
So he was still bound with his 
grave clothes. 

763
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:13,240
And Jesus told the people around
Lazarus to lose him, to unwrap 

764
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,520
him. 
What does this tell me? 

765
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,880
This is not just about you and 
Jesus. 

766
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,520
This is about a community, a 
people, a body, a ministry team 

767
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,600
that is here to help you be 
loosed into the freedom that 

768
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,320
Jesus has provided for you. 
Thanks for listening to our 

769
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,040
podcast. 
If you'd like to help more 

770
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,680
people hear this message, you 
can get the word out by 

771
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,000
subscribing and sharing it on 
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772
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,840
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ministries of Heartland Church, 

773
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,600
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