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Hi, this is Dave Olson. 
I'm the senior leader of 

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Heartland Church located in 
Ankeny, IA. 

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I hope the following message 
challenges, encourages and 

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ultimately changes you. 
Thanks for joining us. 

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So we have Chris Berglund with 
us this weekend, and I know I've

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been talking about Chris for a 
number of months, telling you 

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that I invited him. 
I met Chris through Dean Briggs.

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We were together down in 
Burlington and then we did a 

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conference together over in 
Omaha and I just fell in love 

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with him. 
I'd heard of Chris for many, 

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many years. 
I've heard Lou Engel. 

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We've hosted Lou several times 
and he always talks about this, 

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his personal profit, his 
dreamer. 

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And and so it was Chris and 
they've been connected for many 

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years. 
Chris made a comment yesterday 

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that I think is worth repeating.
He, he as he was teaching, he 

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was talking about how he and Lou
were just doing AQ and a time 

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recently and Lou was talking 
about how, you know, this, this 

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tremendous dreamer that's 
sitting next to him that he's 

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had in his life. 
And, and Lou is kind of 

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leveraged that in his life. 
And, and Chris stopped him and, 

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and, and said, you know, you 
need to understand something. 

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Chris that or Lou, I didn't. 
I didn't dream like I do until I

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connected with you. 
And he, he put it this way, he 

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said my dreams had no missional 
value until I connected with 

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you. 
And all of a sudden there was a 

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purpose behind those dreams. 
I'm sure that other people had 

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been blessed previously, but 
it's a lesson in this that when 

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we find the tribe and the people
were to run with, all of a 

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sudden our gifts are heightened.
There's there's they come 

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online, so to speak. 
It's like they're they're 

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heightened. 
And and our mission, Our 

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Calling, our assignment in life 
is connected to those around us.

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And so there's no way for us to 
enter into what God has for us 

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without one another. 
We've talked about this before, 

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but fusions is very clear. 
The fullness of God is in the 

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body. 
Ephesians chapter one last two 

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verses. 
He hath put everything under 

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Christ's feet. 
Comma for the church, comma the 

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fullness of him. 
You have a piece, I have a 

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piece. 
But when none of us will ever 

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have the fullness and in fact, 
God will withhold from you what 

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you need in your quiet time so 
that you'll get it through 

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fellowship and community. 
There are things that you need 

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you will never get with just you
and Jesus because he designed it

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that way. 
It's going to be the Jesus and 

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someone else that's going to 
meet your need. 

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And as we were talking about 
the, I've never seen it this 

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way, but it's like a puzzle 
piece, you know, it's like the 

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puzzle. 
A puzzle has a picture on it. 

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That's one of the ways, you 
know, But then the pieces fit 

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together. 
There's a void in one that the 

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other fills, and as they click 
together, all of a sudden you 

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get a greater picture. 
And every one of us are a piece 

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of the puzzle, but we need the 
one sitting next to us. 

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And often God will hide the very
thing you need and the person 

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that irritates you the most. 
Now, that'll be for another 

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Sunday morning. 
We'll talk about that. 

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But anyway, I've just really 
grown to appreciate Chris and he

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and he, he runs with a group of 
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intercessors for a number of 
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It's fascinating the way they do
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We've learned a lot from them 
from afar on how they steward 

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the word of the Lord and pray 
that. 

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And so it's just a pleasure to 
have Chris. 

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Chris, come on. 
Let's give Chris Berglund a good

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heartland welcome. 
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Love you, man, Bless you. 
Love you. 

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Yeah, I think, I think Dave is 
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I don't think there was really 
any value to anybody else 

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besides me and my dream life 
before Lou because I wasn't 

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giving anybody. 
I think that my dream life was 

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encouraging to me and the Lord 
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But when we connected 
covenantally is when that 

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missional covenantal heart and 
we made a we had the language of

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Jonathan and David. 
I want to say that with Lou, and

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this was 40 years ago, you know 
what Jonathan did with David, 

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right? 
He gave him his cloak. 

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Basically, Jonathan is in is the
Prince and he's in line to the 

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throne and he's, he's clothing 
David and said, it's OK if 

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you're the one in line to the 
throne, which he was, right? 

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He's giving him his his 
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And there's something that 
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relationships where Luke gave me
his identity, his calling for 

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the nations. 
And so I wore that. 

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I wear that. 
And then my dream had missional 

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value to it. 
I share that because it really 

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didn't have. 
I don't remember my dreams 

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affecting anyone else besides me
until we made covenant together.

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I do remember one of the first I
shared I think yesterday 

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dreaming is easy. 
You just go to sleep right? 

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And you there's nothing to brag 
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It's like maybe it's worse than 
bragging because you God can't 

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speak to you in the daytime. 
He puts you to sleep right. 

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So you're so dull on the put you
to sleep and but there is a 

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preparation I and I don't want 
to negate the preparation the 

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Lord showed me early on. 
You know, this is how you know 

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there's always levels of 
interpretation right of 

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Scripture. 
And I remember the Lord speaking

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to me and don't let the sun go 
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And he was speaking to me in the
context, Chris, because if you 

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have wrath, if you go down, let 
the sun go down your wrath, you 

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will not dream, you will not 
have the pure dream life because

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you're hindering the flow of the
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And then he would encourage me. 
I know for for our team, we go 

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on assignments and we may spend 
2 weeks or 4 weeks or or 

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whatever, praying, fasting, 
breaking fast, starting again 

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during the fast. 
But I there won't those nights. 

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The preparation is making sure 
there's no offense in the heart.

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I'm making sure I'm praying in 
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I want to enter into the most 
holy faith, right? 

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I want to go into the, the the 
place with the Lord without 

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there. 
All's I'm saying is no matter 

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what the gifting and calling is 
on our life, there is a there is

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a surrender that allows that 
gifting to flow. 

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So I don't want to minimize the 
consecration because the 

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consecration in the Kingdom with
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And that's why it was such a joy
to meet to covenant with Lou, 

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because you don't always find a 
man that's so consecrated that's

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night and day. 
He's just thinking about Jesus 

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and revival, right? 
It's just he wakes up in the 

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morning, goes to sleep at night.
He's burning. 

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He's burning with the Lord's 
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so there is a great cost in the,
in the, you know, I, this is 

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kind of funny, but we, we had 
taken 70 young people from the 

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Trail of Tears. 
The Lord, we had a dream and in 

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the dream, the Lord told us that
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Native Americans to overcome 
abortion in the land because of 

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what, what we found out was that
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were the some of the white men 
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Native Americans in the war, in 
the battles and stuff. 

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Some of the first, I'm not 
saying it was necessarily the 

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first, but it was. 
So we took these 70 young 

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people. 
We were going to walk the Trail 

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of Tears from Charlotte area to 
Oklahoma and oh, so we're in the

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middle of this long fast, Lou. 
Lou thought it'd be a good idea 

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to start with a 40 day fast. 
So we're on this 40 day fast and

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he didn't feel like we were 
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So somebody has a dream. 
We're supposed to do an Ester 

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fast. 
I'm like, you got to be kidding.

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We're on a 40 day water fast. 
Now you want us to go 3 days 

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with no food? 
I remember we were young. 

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I remember telling one of the 
young people, he said, can we 

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brush our teeth? 
I said, no, you can't. 

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You can't use toothpaste and you
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in the shower and open your 
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It was totally, really 
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It was not God. 
And yeah, got some of those 

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stories. 
I pastored. 

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I shouldn't have been pastoring.
I'm not a pastor, but I helped 

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the Korean church and they asked
us to come and help them walk 

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through some difficulties for 
three months and it ended up to 

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be 3 1/2 years. 
And I remember calling a fast 

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and one of the young Korean 
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do this this certain fast? 
I said no problem, you'll you'll

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be fine. 
I think I don't know what it 

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was, but I get a call the next 
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She's in the emergency room. 
I'm like, OK, well you didn't 

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tell me you had these different 
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Anyway, so a guy prophesied to 
me and said I'd be a pastor and 

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I knew he was missing it. 
I thought there is no way. 

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And then I got tricked. 
Jehovah, Sneaky, whatever his 

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name is, my wife's the pastor. 
My one of the Koreans came to my

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wife and said we really feel 
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he should stand at the door and 
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My wife goes, if you want a 
greeter, you're going to have to

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do it yourself. 
My husband's not going to sit at

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the door anyway. 
Sorry. 

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That's what happens when you're 
an introvert. 

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You're like, that's your 
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Your greatest fear is being in 
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And the pastor gets up and says,
let's break into groups and 

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pray. 
No, I don't mind so much 

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anymore. 
But a couple weeks ago, I was at

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the church, a small church with 
50 people and Leah that was 

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pastoring. 
And she's so like, everyone 

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break up with somebody you love 
and what? 

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Take communion. 
And I just did. 

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I didn't move. 
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And she comes over and says, 
Chris, I said break, move 

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somebody love. 
And I said, I am anyway, So the 

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introverts in here will 
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But it's been fun to be with 
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I, I want to share a couple 
dreams just for fun and, and 

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because in the dreams we can 
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And Lou, Lou called me a couple 
weeks ago and said, Chris, it 

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was on a Tuesday, said on 
Wednesday, he's leaving for 

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Manchester, England. 
He said, will you see if the 

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Lord gives you any dream? 
And of course that's I just pray

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and ask the Lord for Lou. 
And because of that covenantal 

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unity, I, I start getting things
for him in in the dreams. 

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And that night I had an 
interesting dream. 

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Manchester United was in a 
soccer match with Arab Emirates,

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Arab United Emirates in the 
soccer match that it was tied 11

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to 11 in my dream. 
And the first team to get 12 and

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sudden death would win. 
And at 1111, Manchester United 

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goes to the sideline and I'm I'm
over there listening to them and

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they're saying we should have 
paid the price for these certain

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players. 
And the the overtime lasted. 

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It seemed like a couple hours in
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It was like one of those 
extended listening to them. 

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We should have paid her the 
price for this. 

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We should have got this, this 
player named Johnson. 

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And in some of my dreams, 
Johnson becomes a a continued 

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theme with either the sons of 
John the beloved or sons of John

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the Baptist has some meaning to 
them more than more than just 

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the literal name. 
So I share the dream with Lou. 

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I said, well, Lou, here's what I
got last night. 

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And so he's, he's going to 
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It was, well, he, he was on his 
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couple weeks ago. 
So he goes and he, because we've

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been together for 40 years, he's
just come to the point of, you 

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know, Chris, I, I know you, I 
know I trust your dreams. 

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I'm going to just share the 
dream and we'll see what 

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happens. 
So he said, here's the dream 

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from my friend. 
It was 11 to 11. 

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It was sudden death. 
And we believe it has to do with

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England. 
We believe Manchester has a, a 

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price to pay or, you know, right
now, if you've hear a lot of 

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people are saying England is, 
doesn't have a chance, right? 

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They're just, they're, they've 
lost their culture to, to 

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invading cultures, culture war. 
And I'm not saying I'm not 

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pointing out to flesh and blood.
I'm I'm saying spiritually there

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there's, you know, you're 
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girls getting raped in the 
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there's a culture that is 
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entities that that have no value
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And so it's like that's but it 
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country and it's turning the 
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So anyways, they Lou shares this
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OK, we really need to pray and 
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the price for our country. 
So it was a level of sobriety in

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the dream that was on a 
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And now on the next Wednesday, 
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go to Manchester, NH and on a 
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United, Manchester, Manchester 
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They're not playing United Arab 
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Grimsby soccer club. 
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meaning they had to win and to 
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level 4. 
Not I don't, I don't pretend to 

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understand a whole lot about 
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I play a little bit for fun, but
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They were level 4 United, 
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top tier level. 
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in this cup final. 
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to 12 in sudden death wins. 
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Manchester United in this cup 
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And I'm asking the Lord. 
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clear with the dream, but not. 
So why did I miss the Why did I 

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miss the different teams? 
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Chris, you didn't miss the teams
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What? 
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certain, you know, spiritual 
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that is going to cost England 
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the 10 spies that have a bad 
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I feel like the feel like the 
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soccer match actually happened a
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group, this conference calls a 
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And I'm not telling you is the 
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They would just said we need to 
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for our country. 
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share that because the spirit 
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happened. 
Very little happens in heaven. 

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I'm not going to say nothing, 
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our agreement on the earth. 
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with him before there's a move 
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made us coin Co reigning with 
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And so it's very sobering to me 
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that my the words out of my 
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a chance. 
You know the they're being taken

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over. 
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late for revival. 
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sorry. 
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Let me transition a little bit 
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Well, let me, let me encourage 
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night and the night before, I 
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2 partial dreams that what I've 
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you guys in the first night, 
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going to be a wealth transfer. 
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money. 
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wealth, the treasure. 
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There's we have, there's a clay 
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We are that treasure, right? 
There's a transfer of wealth 

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that's coming. 
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large churches would be emptied 
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life of Christ would be filled 
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There's a shifting that's taking
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And then this last night I saw 
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seen in the natural, but on the 
door there was the there were 12

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Stones of the high priest 
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And it was on the eastern door. 
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morning, Dave brought me to the 
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is the eastern door because I 
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It's the eastern door, the 
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And the Lord started giving me 
revelation, the dream which will

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happen sometimes where I started
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He's this covering cherub. 
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heaven. 
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He walks among the 9 stones, 
which is very fascinating 

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because those every one of those
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of the 12 Stones of the high 
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dream. 
I was feeling like I, I knew 

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something that I didn't know 
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didn't have the three stones 
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priest, the priestly mediation 
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He, he was missing those 3 
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And how did I know that? 
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this, I started seeing Abraham 
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sky. 
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Ezekiel 28 says he is these, he,
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rise above the stars. 
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That's what's part of his 
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above the stars. 
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he was never given that 
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Anyway. 
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in the dream. 
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moving in the dream in the city,
I could see some of the churches

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having the 12 Stones, but some 
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that were artificial stones. 
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that those churches would be 
empty. 

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There'd be a season where the, 
the, the cost is too great for 

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them to continue to open. 
The, the, the Lord would take 

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away the lampstand in a sense, 
and there wouldn't be any reason

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to go there. 
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priestly anointing is that we 
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person, every broken person. 
My my wife works with a broken 

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with a horse ministry with young
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that someday they'll come with a
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identify as a blue as a as a 
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though I being identified that 
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She loves she loves being in the
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broken men and women are 
identity issues they and she can

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only talk to him about Jesus if 
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structure of the of the work 
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She said someone's this one 
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for. 
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said if all Christians were like
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I'm like that's awesome. 
Keep loving those you know, they

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don't have we're not pointing 
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We're saying they're broke and 
they need Jesus, you know, 

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right. 
We've got a generation and like 

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Dave is saying, we're not 
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They're acting according to 
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we all have received a new 
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We should be different. 
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They're going to be according to
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heart and so and I, I mentioned 
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Dan Moeller said, I, I, I like 
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once in a while. 
I don't, haven't listened to Dan

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for a few years, but I really 
loved him. 

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I really love his heart. 
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He said we should never as 
believers, we should never be 

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hurt by anybody. 
Because if somebody hurts us 

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with their words, he said, 
they're, they simply don't know 

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who they are and they don't know
who we are. 

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So we should be hurt for them. 
So they should never hurt us. 

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But if they hurt us with if they
attempt to hurt us with their 

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words, it should simply hurt us.
They simply don't know who they 

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are. 
They're just coming against 

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this. 
Anyway. 

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I, I thought that that's so 
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It's so simple and yet so 
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Christ that goes after, after 
all the the lost, right. 

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Anyway, so I want to read a 
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I think there's one in Malachi. 
The first chapter in Malachi. 

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It says, It says I have loved 
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Yet you say, In what way have 
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Was not Esau Jacob's brother, 
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Yet Jacob I loved, but Esau I 
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I laid waste his mountains and 
his heritage for the jackals of 

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the wilderness. 
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have been impoverished, but we 
will return and build the 

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desolate places. 
Thus says the Lord, They may 

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build, but I will throw it down.
They may be called the territory

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of wickedness, and the people 
against whom the Lord will have 

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indignation forever. 
When you read these Scriptures 

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and throughout the Old 
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of Esau, just like Jacob, just 
like Israel's an increase of 

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Jacob, right? 
It's that when he's talking 

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about Esau, he's saying Esau. 
I hated because Esau despised 

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the seed of Christ, the 
birthright, his inheritance. 

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He he sold it for a bowl of 
soup. 

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He said I don't need the seed of
Christ. 

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Basically what he's saying is I 
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with Adam. 
There is no I hate Adam. 

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There's nothing good in Adam. 
When when when man sinned and 

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and and the life of Christ left,
it says the whole world was full

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of wickedness and violence. 
None there was none that were 

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seek that there was nothing. 
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their heart were evil 
continually. 

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Genesis 6 and if if you weren't 
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seed, if you despise the seed, 
God is saying, I hate that. 

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I hate that everyone from the 
lineage of Esau, from the 

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lineage of Edom. 
He's not saying he's not saying 

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he's looking at a person hating 
the person. 

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He's hating the life that 
they're agreeing to because he 

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died to save them from that Adam
life. 

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He actually buried all of us 
into Adam. 

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Isn't that amazing? 
All of Christ in Romans and 

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Corinthians, all of all of all 
of Adam died in Christ and was 

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buried. 
We talked about this yesterday a

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little bit. 
The the crucifixion and the 

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burial of Adam is universal, but
the resurrection is by faith 

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alone. 
All of Adam has has died, but 

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the resurrection is by faith. 
There's there's got to be a 

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faith in this seed. 
And I want to, I want to talk 

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about this because this is a 
hard saying, but there the only 

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thing Christ is looking for is 
an increase of of himself. 

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The only thing the Father's 
looking for is an increase of 

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the life of Christ in us. 
All of our good ideas are are 

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Esau. 
It's our own imagination. 

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It's our own good. 
He hates that. 

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He hates that those things, 
they, they have nothing to do 

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with him. 
They're of a different 

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everything that's not coming 
flowing from him is something 

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that he doesn't he doesn't long 
for, he doesn't want, he hates. 

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It is a hard saying, isn't it? 
It's like we're talking about 

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this everything when when God 
made Adam, it says he's a 

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picture. 
Adam is a picture of Christ. 

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Eve is a picture of the church, 
Ephesians and Romans. 

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When God made Adam and he wanted
to, it was good that it was not 

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good that she should be alone. 
So he made Eve. 

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What did he do? 
He took life from Adam and he 

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made Eve with that life. 
Christ took his life. 

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He made a bride and then he gave
that bride back to Christ to see

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see what he's doing. 
The very life that he gives us, 

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he receives back from us. 
That's what he's looking for. 

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He's always looking for an 
increase of his own life. 

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And so we were talking kind of 
go quickly through a couple of 

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passages, but all of the Old 
Testament is a shadow of Christ 

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in some way or another, good or 
bad. 

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We talked about leprosy. 
We talked about Leviticus like 

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14 or 15. 
It says if I spit on somebody, 

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that person becomes unclean. 
That's kind of weird. 

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They they got to go through a 
cleansing ritual, go outside the

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camp. 
Why? 

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Because everything that comes 
from the flesh is defiling. 

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It's just a picture of the body.
It's a picture of Christ's body,

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the church. 
And he's saying there's boundary

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line. 
So every every law that was 

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given in Scripture is simply a 
boundary line of the life of and

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nature of Christ. 
What are the wars? 

448
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520
The wars are simply the 
victories of Christ. 

449
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,480
The the sacrifices are fragrance
and, and the death of Christ. 

450
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720
They're all pointing in a weak 
way. 

451
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,120
They're pointing to the 
substance which is Christ. 

452
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,880
And so in the Old Testament, the
first three times Israel is 

453
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,440
used. 
It's very significant when Jacob

454
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,480
goes with his staff to go find a
bride, he he goes into a hostile

455
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,480
territory. 
He leaves the House of God. 

456
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040
The Bethel goes into a hostile 
territory. 

457
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,640
He claims a wife. 
He he laborers there for 20 

458
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,840
years and guess what? 
When he leaves, guess what is 

459
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520
with him? 
There's a bride, there's flocks 

460
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,320
and there's sons. 
It's a picture of Christ coming 

461
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,800
and having an increase. 
See see this the scripture. 

462
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,320
There's a couple really clear 
points in scripture that God, 

463
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,880
his love comes down. 
His love is defined in John, but

464
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,640
he's giving all things I because
I love you, I'm giving you all 

465
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,520
understanding, all knowledge, 
because I love you, I'm giving 

466
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520
you all things. 
Well, that's what love is. 

467
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,320
It's giving fully of himself and
glory is the increase of that, 

468
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
the nature, it's the increase of
what he's looking for. 

469
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,600
He's he's looking for an 
increase of what he's given. 

470
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,880
He's not looking for more than 
Christ in us. 

471
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:30,400
He's looking for Christ in us. 
And so when Jacob is wrestling 

472
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,880
with God, he's wrestling with 
Laban, with man, but then he 

473
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,200
wrestles with God and you know, 
he touches his hips and 

474
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,280
dislocates it. 
But he's God says because you've

475
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,920
prevailed, I'm changing your 
name to Israel. 

476
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,720
He's changing his name because 
that's he's he's he's shadowing 

477
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,360
the body of Christ, the church. 
It's it's a one new man. 

478
00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:00,440
It's it's Exodus 422. 
Go tell Pharaoh that Israel is 

479
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,360
my son, not my sons and my 
daughters, my son, my first 

480
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,400
born. 
It's a picture of Christ. 

481
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,120
It's a picture of increase. 
So in Scripture, when a Jacob is

482
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:14,440
coming out with this increase, 
it's Speaking of the church. 

483
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800
The church is the resurrected 
body of Christ. 

484
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240
If he now you got to understand 
this because otherwise it sounds

485
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,440
weird. 
It's like, what are you saying? 

486
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,720
We're God? 
No, not at all. 

487
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,040
The church. 
See, we do. 

488
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,880
If you know, most of the time, 
if I would say who is the 

489
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,520
church, we would define it. 
You can't define it because he 

490
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960
defines it. 
He defines it by his life. 

491
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,360
So the measure of Christ's life 
in this room is the measure of 

492
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,520
the church in this room, right? 
We can say we're the body of 

493
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,960
Christ, but we're only the body 
of Christ as the life of the Son

494
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,240
lives through us. 
There's part of us that is not 

495
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480
the life of Christ. 
And that's the that's the part 

496
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,640
of us that we continually 
surrender to. 

497
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800
It's the mind that hasn't been 
renewed. 

498
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,680
It's the thoughts that aren't 
his thoughts. 

499
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,240
It's not the body of Christ. 
He when he resurrected from the 

500
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,480
dead, isn't it interesting? 
Nobody that knew him now 

501
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
recognized him. 
The road to Emmaus, They didn't 

502
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
recognize him. 
Mary thought, this is the 

503
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040
gardener. 
Peter and James didn't recognize

504
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,720
him until they said, cast it 
over and catch the 153, whatever

505
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,280
the fish or whatever. 
Nobody recognized him because he

506
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880
came in a different form, Same 
life, different form. 

507
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840
He says to Mary, Don't cling to 
me. 

508
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,320
I don't want to be known like I 
was known for the last three 

509
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,360
years. 
I want to be known differently. 

510
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,600
And so he's, he's appearing and 
disappearing and he's coming and

511
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680
going. 
He doesn't want anyone clinging 

512
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,840
to him because he wants people 
to find him in the body. 

513
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,960
He's the head now. 
Guess what? 

514
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480
We're the body of Christ. 
He wanted people to see. 

515
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Look, the the life is the same, 
but the form is different. 

516
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,280
It's an increase. 
What is the greater works? 

517
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,240
It's not a greater life, it's 
just a greater number. 

518
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,320
It's a greater increase of the 
very life of Christ. 

519
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,760
So when Christ heals through us,
he's the one healing. 

520
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,720
It's not my power to heal. 
I'm just the like we always say,

521
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,280
unless we were misunderstood, 
the vine, the branch doesn't 

522
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,040
become the vine. 
We don't become God. 

523
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,920
The vine simply gets a clean 
vessel, a conduit to go through 

524
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,880
his life, to go through, to flow
through. 

525
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Isn't it amazing? 
In Isaiah 60, it says that 

526
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720
there's a time coming when all 
the nations will come and bow 

527
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,280
down at our feet. 
That is, that's crazy. 

528
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,760
What does that mean? 
That means God is purified, A 

529
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,120
remnant that no longer that it's
just they just see Christ. 

530
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,840
They don't even see us. 
It's like they don't see us. 

531
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,840
They see him and they come down 
to worship him in US and God's 

532
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,360
not, not, not only not offended.
This is where his heart 

533
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,400
rejoices. 
Finally, the my body is my body 

534
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,000
and he he has no problem casting
Thrones down because it's his 

535
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,600
life, right, You know what I'm 
saying? 

536
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,480
I mean, giving us Thrones and we
casting them back, however, over

537
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,880
you know, it's kind of silly to 
think I'm wearing anybody going 

538
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,880
to be comfortable wearing a 
crown? 

539
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280
I'm it's not, it's not a 
physical crown. 

540
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200
I'm like, I'm not wearing this 
for all of eternity. 

541
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,320
This is stupid anyway it it's 
just AI think it's just a 

542
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,400
recognition in the spirit realm 
that this person laid his life 

543
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,240
down. 
This person yielded to the very 

544
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,880
life of Christ. 
There was an increase. 

545
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600
I love the story and we've told 
it several times this weekend. 

546
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:38,840
But when Joseph before Joseph 
has a prophetic word that his 

547
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,520
people are going to go into 
Egypt into exile and he says to 

548
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,800
them, just remember this, don't 
leave my bones in Egypt. 

549
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Interesting. 
Don't make sure they they come 

550
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520
out of Egypt. 
So what happens 400 years later,

551
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Moses is called to deliver the 
Israelites from Egypt and in the

552
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,680
front of in the front of the 
procession, they've got the 

553
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,880
they're carrying the bones of of
Joseph. 

554
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160
What's the picture? 
The picture is Joseph, a type of

555
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Christ now has an increase of 
Christ, right? 

556
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000
It's that's a picture. 
It's a shadow, not perfect at 

557
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680
all. 
It's just a shadow, but 

558
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,360
everything in Scripture is a 
shadow. 

559
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Jesus is the door. 
Jesus is the cloud that led him 

560
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
out of the promised land. 
Jesus is the promised land. 

561
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Jesus is the manna from heaven. 
He's the bread that he. 

562
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,440
You know, it's like you can't 
you go to Joseph And isn't it 

563
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,440
interesting when I, when the 
Lord started revealing the, the 

564
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
communion revival, I started 
seeing communion all over us. 

565
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,920
I was like, wow, the Baker, the 
Baker dies, but the, the wine, 

566
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960
the one that serves wine to the 
king lives forever. 

567
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
I'm like, come on, That's an 
awesome, that's an awesome 

568
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,960
picture. 
The, the blood anyway, And 

569
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Gideon, what's Gideon doing? 
He's baking bread in a wine 

570
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,520
press. 
And then the big, big barley 

571
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,080
loaf rolls down and and 
demolishes the Midianite. 

572
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:08,240
Was it Midianites and anyway, 
just the the the whole of 

573
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,400
scripture, if we understand the 
whole of scripture is pointing 

574
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,880
for his original design, which 
was to have a a priestly bride, 

575
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,680
right. 
We were talking to praying for 

576
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,760
Roger and his wife earlier. 
There's a word in the in 

577
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,840
Genesis. 
It says tendon keep the garden 

578
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640
and then take dominion on the 
earth. 

579
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,960
Tendon keep is only used one 
other time together in numbers. 

580
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,400
I think it's chapter 3 and it's 
in regard to the priesthood. 

581
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Jesus. 
God's original intention with 

582
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,160
man was to have a priest king in
the garden and to rule. 

583
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960
It was a temple. 
It was facing east. 

584
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Eden was facing east. 
It was the IT was had cherubims 

585
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000
in there. 
What's the temple facing east, 

586
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,840
the cherubim in the holy of 
holies. 

587
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,280
It was just this is the Garden 
of Eden. 

588
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000
It's a it's a temple on the 
earth and you are the 

589
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,040
gatekeepers. 
That word in tendon keep the 

590
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:09,920
word keep means to guard. 
I don't know if this is exactly,

591
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,920
I think it's true, but you know,
Eve was deceived, but Adam was 

592
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,040
told to guard, guard the garden.
Why did he let the snake talk to

593
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,120
his his wife? 
You know, there's, there's I 

594
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,320
think, I think the judgement 
came on him because he was to 

595
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,159
guard and keep he was to make 
sure there was nothing happening

596
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,840
in that garden that wasn't 
supposed to happen. 

597
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
And we're and we're, we're 
priests and kings. 

598
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,400
And this is this is what we do. 
We guard, we, we guard our 

599
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239
hearts. 
You know, I had a dream a couple

600
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,480
years ago. 
In the dream it was I was 

601
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:49,239
reading about Solomon who was 
having a dream in, in kings. 

602
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,480
And it says, you know, in the 
dream the Lord asked him for 

603
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,600
any, asked me for anything. 
And in the dream Solomon 

604
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,760
responds and says, I want 
wisdom. 

605
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,760
But what the Lord highlighted to
me in the dream was not wisdom, 

606
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,440
but govern. 
He said, I want wisdom to 

607
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
govern. 
I'm like, OK, you're he asked 

608
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:13,200
for something more than wisdom. 
He wanted to be at that ecclesia

609
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960
that that priest, that king 
priest, right. 

610
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,720
He he's like there was something
that moved God's heart said you 

611
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,080
have asked a good thing. 
You've asked something that I 

612
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,320
wanted Adam and Eve to walk in 
and you want to restore that 

613
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,680
governing wisdom. 
The problem with Solomon is he 

614
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,840
could govern the people, but 
never governed his own heart, 

615
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,880
right? 
He was a failure. 

616
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,440
But in in in that sense. 
But isn't it, isn't it powerful 

617
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,360
that God, God showed him 
something in a dream? 

618
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,280
And sometimes we just dismiss 
dreams. 

619
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,440
The Midianites with Gideon, they
get a dream about this. 

620
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,960
Barley. 
Was it? 

621
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,720
Yeah. 
Barley loaf rolling down and and

622
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,600
destroying them. 
They said this is none other 

623
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,480
than the sword of Gideon. 
And they were afraid. 

624
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Gideon hears it outside their 
tent. 

625
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,200
And that was all he needed to 
hear. 

626
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,600
To gird his loins up and go to 
battle was like, what a culture.

627
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:11,200
What a culture where Joseph's 
brothers hear a dream and want 

628
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,520
to kill him. 
They could have said, that's 

629
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600
just a pizza, a barley dream 
pizza dream. 

630
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
But they're like, no, we're 
going to kill you because we 

631
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,080
believe in dreams. 
The Midianites said, gosh, 

632
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Gideon's going to destroy us. 
I had a dream. 

633
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,960
They weren't even believers. 
But but culturally, we we just 

634
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,840
got to be careful not to dismiss
the and I'm not saying just 

635
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960
dreams. 
There's still small voice the, 

636
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,000
the, the obviously the written 
word, like when God lays a hold 

637
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,440
of that written word and you 
just know that, you know, this 

638
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,720
is, this is the message for 
right now. 

639
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,560
It just burns in your heart, 
right. 

640
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,240
And I think, I think 
covenantally, I can say this 

641
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,600
beyond a shadow of a doubt. 
If I wouldn't have covenanted 

642
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,480
with Lou, I would have missed 40
years of dreaming. 

643
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,640
I, I wouldn't have taken him 
seriously like this. 

644
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640
It was a cool dream. 
Maybe I should have bet some 

645
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,240
money on that. 
I just saw this fight and 

646
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Muhammad Ali. 
Those are one of the first 

647
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,800
dreams I had. 
Muhammad Ali loses at the end. 

648
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,920
And I told my people in my 
college, I said, hey, I saw the 

649
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,040
fight in my dream last night. 
I should have bet on it, right? 

650
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,920
No, God was just saying, Chris, 
I want you to know you can hear 

651
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,120
my voice. 
You can hear my voice and I'll 

652
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,240
speak to you if you're willing 
to hear and not just say it's 

653
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:24,720
just a pizza dream or whatever. 
And, and our, our dreams do get 

654
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,160
cleaned up. 
Sometimes it's just a piece of a

655
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,760
dream that's like right from 
heaven. 

656
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,440
And then some of it's mixture 
that you know what, what, 

657
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,400
whatever reason that we're 
mixture in our hearts. 

658
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,280
And as we, as we are saying, 
yes, yes to more surrender, we 

659
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000
hear clearly, just like we hear 
the understand the word too. 

660
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,760
So the the surrender to this 
increase of Christ and. 

661
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,080
It's all it's all about Jesus, 
right? 

662
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Everything is about Jesus living
his life through US, Christ in 

663
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,200
us, the hope of glory. 
We have nothing apart from his 

664
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,040
life. 
But if we have his life, we have

665
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440
everything. 
There needs to be a confidence 

666
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,080
in US. 
You know, I don't have the word.

667
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,680
I don't necessarily know what to
do, but he's in me and he can 

668
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920
speak freely through me if we 
allow him to right? 

669
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,920
He can live through us. 
So there, you know, one of the I

670
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:29,280
know I need to end, but in 1997 
I was just leaving this my wife 

671
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,120
and I were just leaving the 
Korean church that we were 

672
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,840
pastoring. 
And the Lord said, he said, 

673
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Chris, you have a a life 
threatening disease in my dream 

674
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
and I'm like, gosh, am I going 
to die of cancer? 

675
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,320
What's going on? 
And in the dream, the Lord goes,

676
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,360
it's comparison and it's going 
to kill you. 

677
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,520
And Paul said, don't compare 
yourselves among yourselves. 

678
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,360
You're not wise. 
We either land on one side or 

679
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,160
the other. 
I'll tell you where I landed. 

680
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,400
I always said that guy's a 
better teacher. 

681
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,960
That guy's a better prophet. 
That guy's a better everything. 

682
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
What am I doing? 
What am I doing? 

683
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,240
The Koreans talk about 
intercession, man. 

684
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:05,960
We had intercession meeting. 
I didn't even know if I was 

685
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,040
saved anymore. 
And you know, it's just like, 

686
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,560
these guys are awesome. 
And then the next dream I have, 

687
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,080
I don't know, maybe a month 
later, because I was struggling 

688
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,880
with this, like, OK, I, I 
compare myself to others and 

689
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,520
I'm, I'm not measuring up. 
Lord. 

690
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,520
And the next dream there was all
those people that I had just 

691
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,680
labeled that were, why would I 
do this? 

692
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,440
Because they're so good at it. 
Just let them do it. 

693
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,080
They, they were in a dream with 
me. 

694
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,280
We're in the mountains of 
Colorado in this dream. 

695
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,280
And Billy Graham was going to 
come and be the guest, the guest

696
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,600
at the mountain retreat. 
Well, he gets there and we're 

697
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,760
just about to sit down for 
dinner and he comes up to me and

698
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040
he says, Chris, I want to sit by
you tonight. 

699
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,760
And I said, no, I'm an 
introvert. 

700
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,720
I don't talk that much. 
Go, go sit by so. 

701
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,280
And so he can talk all night, 
right? 

702
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,880
You know, and I know, you know, 
I want to sit by you. 

703
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,720
I said, OK. 
I said be boring, but OK. 

704
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600
And then he said at night, he 
said, I want to sleep in your 

705
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,680
cabin. 
I'm like, no, again, really. 

706
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,960
You don't want to sleep in my 
cabin anyway. 

707
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Just. 
And, and I realized, oh, I'm 

708
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,240
talking to the Lord. 
In my dream, Billy Graham was a 

709
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,080
representation of the Lord. 
That's all it was. 

710
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,880
It was just like the Lord was 
saying, no, Chris, I made you 

711
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,080
the way you are. 
I love your personality. 

712
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,360
He loves it would be boring if 
we were all the same, if even 

713
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000
two of us were the same, right? 
We're all so very different. 

714
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,280
It's like we're we get to have a
personality while we express the

715
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,600
life of Christ. 
That's a beautiful thing. 

716
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,280
We don't have to lose our sense 
of humor. 

717
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,080
I mean, I think one of my 
colleagues is to make Lou laugh 

718
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,520
once a month, right? 
And I, I send them, you know, 

719
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520
these, these memes that are 
right on the edge of not not 

720
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,920
being good to send. 
You know, he's like Chris. 

721
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040
You have, he goes, Chris, you 
have a serious conscience. 

722
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:04,520
But I can't stop laughing. 
So I think for Lou and for 

723
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,080
heaven, that's my ministry. 
OK, He's trying hard, but he's 

724
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:24,320
anyway just saying, let me just 
let me just say this. 

725
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,520
I'll just share something and 
then I'll be done in in Matthew 

726
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,240
15. 
You, you guys know the story 

727
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,400
when the woman comes to Jesus, 
that's a gentile and he says to 

728
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,800
her, he ignores her. 
I should read it, but Matthew 

729
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,720
15/20/21 in there, he ignores 
her, didn't say anything to her.

730
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,880
So he's ignoring this woman And 
you're, I remember reading this 

731
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,600
thinking she's just not, he's 
not a Jesus having a bad day. 

732
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
He's just ignoring some woman 
that's trying to get healed, her

733
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,240
daughter healed or whatever. 
And then the next verse she, she

734
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,400
presses in and says, you know, 
Jesus and the disciples are 

735
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,000
saying somebody send her away. 
Somebody get rid of this lady. 

736
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,960
And she's pressing in and, and 
Jesus says even the dogs will 

737
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,000
get, you know, the dogs will get
the crumbs or something like 

738
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,480
that. 
Right now he ignores her. 

739
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Now he calls her a dog and I'm 
thinking what? 

740
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,040
She's having a terrible day and 
I'm just joking. 

741
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,160
But it goes a little further. 
And then she lays hold of of him

742
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,760
and she is healed and he says 
something great. 

743
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,360
I've not seen a great faith like
this or some however that goes. 

744
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,360
You know what, I was meditating 
on this. 

745
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,560
I felt like the Lord said to me,
he says, Chris, I knew from the 

746
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,480
first start of this she had 
great faith and she was going to

747
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,600
persevere and I was going to 
ignore her. 

748
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,400
And I was going to say this, you
know, the, the bread is for the 

749
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,480
dogs, the Gentiles. 
And she was going to press in 

750
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,040
and I was going to show the 
disciples what real faith was. 

751
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
That's when I felt like he said,
this is what real faith looks 

752
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560
like. 
It doesn't matter what it looks 

753
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,520
like. 
It doesn't matter if you're 

754
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,360
being, you feel like you're 
being ignored, but you're 

755
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,560
pressing and you're saying, no, 
I'm going to lay hold of this 

756
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,320
man, Jesus. 
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757
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,040
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758
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,640
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759
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,960
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760
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761
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