1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,360 The fact is that God loves His people so much that He will 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,840 allow His name to be drug through the mud to redeem one of 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,920 His children. He is not nearly as concerned 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,960 about his reputation as we are. And truth be told, a lot of our 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,240 concern is not really about his reputation, but ours. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,040 I was, I, I had shared that I had a number of people has have 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,800 been asking me about my take on all the controversy in the body 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,880 of Christ right now. The exposures of sin, you know, 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,920 leaders being exposed, some being exposed living in sin and 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,520 others being exposed for not blowing the whistle on it. 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,760 And people have asked me and I told you 3 weeks ago, I said, 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,320 I'm going to give them time to some of those to respond 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,280 themselves. And actually that bought me some 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 time. And that was part of the 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,640 purpose, to be honest, But I really did, I wanted, I wanted 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,400 some of them to be able to answer the charges and, and the 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,640 ones that I want to address this morning, they did. 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,120 And then last, you know, two weeks ago, we had Bill Byers 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,480 here, then Don Crum last week. And so it bought me more time, 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 but it's time that I, I address these things. 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,680 And so, and specifically right now I'm talking about the Mike 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Winger video. Some of you have watched Mike 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,040 Winger's video. It's like 5 1/2 hours. 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,800 I, I did watch almost all of it at 1 1/2 speed. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,280 So I'm really adept to listening to Mike at a very high speed. 26 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:41,320 And it was, it was absolutely excruciating to watch. 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,240 So I wanted to, and, and it's about, for those of you that are 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,840 not familiar with this, I apologize. 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,040 You know, we used to have from time to time we would do what we 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 call a family meeting and where we would deal with things that 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,280 we need to deal with in house. Those days are gone. 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Since we live stream, there's no such thing as a family meeting. 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,200 It's a global meeting. And that that really does add to 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,560 the complexity of navigating these issues. 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Any church that live streams is now a global church. 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,760 You know, all three of our fans out there are tuned in this 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,440 morning. No, seriously, we've, we've got 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,080 people watching from Africa and different parts of the world. 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 It's, you know, we, we're not, we don't have our millions, but 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,040 we do have consistent watchers from other nations. 41 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:34,440 And so that that presents an obligation for us that in the 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,160 past the church never had to deal with. 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,520 And so we're trying to trying to navigate these things and really 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 pray about it. So the specific situation I'm 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,080 talking about and the reason I'm going to address this is we had 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,800 Bill Johnson in this pulpit this last year. 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,360 Wouldn't you know, the we finally get Bill Johnson here 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,680 and then that this year is when things there there's a blow up. 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,240 And so I wanted to address that because we've had him in this 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,160 pulpit. So Mike Winger put out A5 and 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,920 1/2 hour video exposing Sean Bowles, someone who's been known 52 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:12,200 as a prophetic voice to the church, exposing manufactured 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,840 data mined words of knowledge and prophetic words and other 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,840 sexual sins that he's been involved in that have been 55 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,760 others, numerous witnesses that have been aware of this. 56 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,880 And he, the, the measures have been taken bring, you know, 57 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,760 people have gone to, to Sean on their own, brought others with 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,680 them, brought it before the church and he's still 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,080 unrepentant. And so the Bible's clear we're 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,960 to treat him as an unbeliever. The the evidence is irrefutable 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,640 of what's happened. And we don't want to be guilty 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,400 of unsanctified mercy that can actually damn a soul to hell 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,000 because it doesn't bring people to repentance. 64 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,520 And so there's that situation. But part of the video that Mike 65 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Winger put out was about Bethel's failure to blow the 66 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,160 whistle to the global body of Christ. 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,600 They did tell their network, but a lot of people in house didn't 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 know. And it created some problems 69 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,480 because there were people who were living off of prophetic 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,240 words. They were, they applied some 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,720 prophetic words, which got them into some real hot water 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,680 personally, because these were manufactured words. 73 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,480 They weren't words from the Lord, but they were living their 74 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,560 life according one girl in particular who married a guy, 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,160 because there was a manufactured word that said that she was 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 given to this man. And so she stayed in an abusive 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,800 marriage for three years and almost lost her life at the 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,560 hands of this abusive husband, which is horrendous. 79 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:50,840 And so let me just say, this is not what we're going to deal 80 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:53,120 with today. We're going to deal with how do 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,720 we deal with, how do we deal with these dynamics? 82 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,800 And so I want to talk about that, but I do want to say this, 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:07,080 that there's no way that we can keep an eye on every word that 84 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,200 is given by a member of the body of Christ. 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,640 And So what that means is that as the body of Christ and as 86 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,880 individual believers, we need to learn to discern and learn to 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,440 steward prophetic words. And so here's the thing, I don't 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,120 care how accurate someone is, and in Sean's case, it is 89 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,160 irrefutable that much of his material was data mined off of 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Facebook and so forth. Now let me just I I apologize 91 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,000 this morning. I'm going to I'm going to just 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,680 hit some things. I'm going to share my heart. 93 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,040 I hardly slept last night wrestling over this. 94 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:46,840 I've been praying about this. Just asking the Lord, how do we 95 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:53,800 navigate these matters? And so one of the things we need 96 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,960 to I, I appreciated Mike Winger's video. 97 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,240 I think that Mike is doing the service to the body of Christ. 98 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,600 I don't agree with him on everything. 99 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 And one of the things I disagree with him on, and this is not a 100 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,160 heart matter. This is just a different 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,480 perspective on spiritual gifts. And, and a lot of times when 102 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,080 people don't operate in spiritual gifts, they don't 103 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,000 understand how they operate. And he seems to insinuate that 104 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,920 if someone gives a fraudulent word today and is misusing the 105 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,680 gifts of the Spirit today, then that means that their entire 106 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,280 history must have been fraudulent as well. 107 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:35,040 And he doesn't overtly say that. It seems as though he implies 108 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,360 that. And I'll just tell you that I 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,960 wish that were the case. It would make things a lot 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,440 easier. But the fact is that God doesn't 111 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,960 just entrust his gifts to those who will always steward them 112 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,240 right. I wish that, you know, and Lord, 113 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,920 with all due respect, I'm going to ask the Lord about that. 114 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,040 You know, he, he's, he's, it's way above my pay grade. 115 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,280 He's a lot smarter than me. But that was one, that's one of 116 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,000 the things that I would have thought, Lord, I would have done 117 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,880 that different. But that's not how God operates. 118 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,640 You know, the case in point, Samson is in bed with a 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,880 prostitute. He gets out of bed, walks down 120 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,200 to the gates of the city, picks up the the gates of the city by 121 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 because the Spirit of God comes upon him and he carries him up a 122 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,040 mountain and sets him down on the mountain. 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,760 And I'm like, what the heck. But that's what happened. 124 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:34,040 And so, so we need we we need to understand that people can can 125 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,440 have been legitimate at one point and gone awry. 126 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,000 I don't know if Sean Bulls was ever legitimate. 127 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,480 OK, that's, that's not I, I don't know. 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 I'm just know this, that we're, we're not going to have his 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,920 books in our bookstore. We're going to treat him like an 130 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,880 unbeliever. We're going to pray for him to 131 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,760 get, get right with God. But he, you know, we wouldn't 132 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,640 allow him in our pulpit. He's been brought before the 133 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,040 church and not repented. So that's that what we need to 134 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,600 do is we need to discern the word of the Lord. 135 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,960 And I don't care how clear, how accurate a prophet is. 136 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,120 I don't care. I, I believe in prophecy. 137 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,240 I, I believe the gifts of the Spirit are for today. 138 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 I've seen too much, experienced too much, and I see it in the 139 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,760 word on my, my conscience as a prisoner of the word. 140 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,680 But the Bible itself tells us that we see through a glass 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,080 darkly. We see in part and we prophecy 142 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,880 in part. And so I don't care how accurate 143 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,360 someone is. You don't make major decisions 144 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,120 based solely on a prophetic word and that is a recipe for 145 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,720 disaster because I don't care how accurate they are. 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,120 They see in part. And so there's other things that 147 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 need to be taken into consideration the the peace of 148 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 God in your heart circumstances wise counsel from other 149 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,320 believers and the word of God itself. 150 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,840 And if there's if you ever receive a word, a prophetic word 151 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,040 from somebody that violates the word of God, then you can throw 152 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,760 that out. I don't care how how good a 153 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,480 person they are. It's miss, you know that that's 154 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,200 it's not they missed it. OK, so we need to understand 155 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,920 that when we get prophetic words, we weigh those things and 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,720 you talk to wise leaders and counsel and so forth. 157 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:29,000 So, you know, and there's been the this this video, there were 158 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,040 some accusations against Bethel and we can now tell you that 159 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:38,240 those weren't just accusations. They've admitted that I want to 160 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,440 read you a, a post from them. And if you haven't they they had 161 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,320 a service 3 weeks ago, I believe it was and I watched that. 162 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,160 And I would encourage you to do the same. 163 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,640 And if if you do, I want to encourage you to wait till the 164 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,640 video is completely over. Where the digital pastors, which 165 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,880 is crazy that in this day and age, we have digital pastors, 166 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,080 but the pastors that are ministering to the online 167 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,120 community, you need to wait till the end because here's this 168 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,400 young couple and they're just weeping and they say to the 169 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,760 camera, Mike Winger, we love you. 170 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,160 We appreciate you. You have done the body of Christ 171 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,160 a service. You're a brother. 172 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,960 We thank you for the service you've done for us and we're 173 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,000 going to do better. And those of you that may have 174 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,200 seen that, I don't know about you, but that broke me and it's 175 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 interesting. Well, I won't comment. 176 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,600 I'm going to read you something. This is on Bethel's website and 177 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,840 then I'm going to make some comments. 178 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 They said we're writing you today to share. 179 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,640 This is really a what they shared at the service and it's 180 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,320 put in printed form. It's on their website. 181 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,360 We're writing you today to share about some of our mistakes and 182 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,200 failures in the way we navigated our responsibilities to the 183 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,680 global body of Christ. We ask for you to cover us with 184 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,840 grace this week as we seek the Lord for forgiveness in the face 185 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,600 of some grievous mistakes. These actions were taken by us, 186 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,240 Bill Johnson, Chris Bellatin, Dan Fairley, along with Danny 187 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Silk. We would like to clarify that 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 our other team later, our other leaders and staff members, 189 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,960 including Brian and Jen and the Bethel Music team were not 190 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,120 updated on the allegations or the details of this process. 191 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,280 We take responsibility for the fact that we did not properly or 192 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,080 we did not properly and fully bring discipline, closure, or 193 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 clear and timely communication regarding the gravity of our 194 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:33,560 concerns with Sean Bowles. This was someone we platform to 195 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,560 preach and prophecy in her house and with our teams on many 196 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,160 occasions up until 2019. We are clear that we are not 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,160 responsible for Sean's sin. He is, but we are equally clear 198 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,160 that we are responsible for our own sins, actions and inactions 199 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,640 after the fact. James Fort 17 states whoever, 200 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,720 whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it for him, 201 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,280 it is sin. The truth is, we have hurt and 202 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 scared people because we did not tell the truth enough. 203 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 We did not tell the truth enough, early enough, long 204 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,240 enough, or loud enough and this is a just criticism. 205 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,560 Our hearts are grieved and embarrassed when we sin. 206 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,440 We mess or mess up publicly as we have. 207 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,600 It is important to take responsibility publicly, to 208 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,440 listen as people share their frustrations, sadness and fears 209 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 and corrections. We have been hearing a lot of 210 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 this and we expect to hear more in the season ahead as sometimes 211 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,040 it takes a while for frustration to land and for people to really 212 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,360 trust you've heard them. We are not rushing past this. 213 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:39,880 And so they posted this on their website and they've set up a, an 214 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,080 external process where if somebody has a complaint or an 215 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:50,160 accusation, it goes to a separate entity, a ministry that 216 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,480 then records that and then sets, sends it to them. 217 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,560 So they can't sanitize any material, which I think is a 218 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:02,040 great step for them to do. I guess a couple of comments on 219 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,920 this. I know that a number of people 220 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,520 have come to me and and number of people have shown real 221 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,240 concern when they say, but yeah, it took them being called out on 222 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 A5 and 1/2 hour video. It's insincere and it doesn't 223 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,480 ring true. And I want to caution you that 224 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,520 may be the case or it may not be God laid out very clearly in 225 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,600 Matthew 18. Oh, a pattern by which people 226 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,200 are confronted in the body of Christ. 227 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 And it's very clear you go to that person. 228 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,000 We, we used to call it at Teen Challenge. 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,920 We're going to have a light session. 230 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,840 And it's, it was an acronym for living in Group harmony 231 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,200 together. You get a bunch of just save 232 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,400 drug addicts living together. You had a lot of light sessions 233 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,400 and so we would say a light session and we'd sit down and 234 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,400 we'd hack it out in our, you know, and we'd, and So what we 235 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640 were required to do is go to that brother and confront him. 236 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,040 And if he didn't receive it, you take another brother with you. 237 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,200 And if he didn't receive it, then we'd take it before the 238 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,200 whole body. And if he didn't receive it, 239 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,840 then, then they were treated like a tax collector, like he 240 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,400 worked for the IRS. No, I'm just kidding. 241 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Like, you know, you, you treat him like an unbeliever. 242 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Is, is how that laid it out. Here's the thing. 243 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,440 It's very clear what Jesus taught us in Matthew 18, that 244 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:20,800 even if it takes that 3rd step before they own it, then you go 245 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,000 back into fellowship with them now if they reject. 246 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 It it says if they. Still do not receive it. 247 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Then you treat them as an unbeliever. 248 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,120 And so we would, we would all like to feel like, hey, it, you 249 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,520 know, man, it would be great if people just came and confessed 250 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,240 their sin. Hey, I did this and weren't 251 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,840 caught. The fact is David was caught in 252 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,480 murder and adultery and the prophet Nathan by the word of 253 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,880 the Lord came and confronted him. 254 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,880 And David could have killed him because he was the king. 255 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 But immediately when, when Nathan said you're the man in my 256 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,880 parable, you're the man. And David said I have sinned. 257 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 And immediately Nathan said, you are forgiven. 258 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 But then there were consequences and. 259 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,880 So I want to caution you. I'm not, I'm not telling you 260 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 that you have an obligation to be gullible and believe 261 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,560 everybody's apologies. But I also want to caution you 262 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,280 against being cynical and not believing anybody's apologies 263 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,200 unless they came on their own free will. 264 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Because human nature, including yours and mine, is that we argue 265 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,360 against the truth in our mind when we get in a bad place. 266 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,160 And so I'm not telling you you should believe everything that 267 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,400 they said. I'm saying that time will tell. 268 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,360 But just guard your your heart against cynicism and realize 269 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,800 that the Bible makes allowances for that very thing that Jesus 270 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,560 instructed us that went when they're brought before the 271 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,920 church. If they receive it, they've 272 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,200 already been confronted in private and you know, with 273 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,680 another brother and now they're brought publicly if they receive 274 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,560 it. He said we're supposed to 275 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,760 receive them back in and by the way, God operates by Matthew 18 276 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,240 because I guarantee you the Lord came to Sean Bowles. 277 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,480 I guarantee you the Lord dealt with Bill and Chris and and 278 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Danny. And then there were others who 279 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,880 came and, and if you listen to what Bethel was saying and, and 280 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,480 even the address of these young digital pastor couple at the end 281 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,000 who are weeping and saying, thank you, Mike, we'll do a 282 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,160 better job. You see that it was the younger 283 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,920 crowd of that movement that was pressuring the older crowd and 284 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,680 the older crowd, because the way they've navigated things is that 285 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,400 when they were a little small country church in the town of 286 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,480 2000 where you can manage these things and you can you can deal 287 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,680 with things on that scale that isn't working on that larger 288 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,200 scale. And it gave me great hope for 289 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,840 the future of the church that there's this young generation 290 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 that's saying, hey, we can't do this. 291 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,000 We've got to do and so we can pray that there's true 292 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,119 repentance. I'm hopeful, but that's for you 293 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,760 to navigate. I just want to caution you as 294 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,920 your pastor, don't be cynical and don't be gullible, OK? 295 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,560 Let's not go to extremes. And so let me let me read you a 296 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,400 couple things that I was just tossing around in my own head. 297 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,920 Human nature is to both preserve what we have built and 298 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,000 accumulated as well as to protect our own reputations. 299 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,040 So when something comes out underneath our leadership or 300 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,280 someone that we've endorsed, all of a sudden we want to circle 301 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,520 the wagons in one of two ways. We either defend the person or 302 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,680 we distance ourselves. Said I never really received 303 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,040 from then. I always knew. 304 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,440 And so human nature is both to preserve what we have built and 305 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,720 accumulated as well as to protect our own reputations. 306 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,880 That danger is not only in regards to our own sin, it is 307 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,000 true of the sins of those we look up to and have recommended 308 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,320 to others. When we receive from someone, we 309 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,280 develop an A vested interest in protecting them. 310 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,600 This is human. Nature. 311 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's real. 312 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,000 This is not only out of a sense of gratitude over what we've 313 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,040 received, we develop a loyalty which is often rooted in a 314 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,640 desire to preserve our own credibility and validate our own 315 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,240 discernment. And So what happens is when 316 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,320 somebody is exposed. And we've received. 317 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 From them we're like, no, that can't be true, and often we deny 318 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,600 it way too late in front of mounting evidence. 319 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,360 This exposure, this makes exposure particularly dicey 320 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:57,200 things for us to navigate. We have a tendency to try to 321 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,040 protect God's reputation from the truth concerning the 322 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,560 behavior of His people. The time to do this is prior to 323 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,600 sin. We should be concerned about 324 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,240 God's reputation and how we represent Him. 325 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,840 We represent Jesus as his people, but the time to be 326 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,560 concerned about that is before we sin. 327 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,400 It's called the fear of the Lord and the love of God. 328 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560 And I'm not going to do these things. 329 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,880 We're all tempted in various ways, but we're not going to do 330 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,000 that because I love him and I fear him and I don't want to 331 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,160 bring a bad name to the to the church or to the Lord himself. 332 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,000 The wrong time to do that is after sin has already happened. 333 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,680 Then things have to be exposed. And we've got to own our own 334 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 lack of discernment. We've got to own our own 335 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 gullibility. We've got to own those things. 336 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,400 And that's a humiliating process. 337 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,800 I've had plenty of people When when when IHOP crumbled to the 338 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:08,640 ground 2 1/2 years ago. I'm still processing that. 339 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,720 I know a lot of people that had a tendency to say, well, I 340 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,840 never, I never didn't really like Mike Bickel, man. 341 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,640 They were listening to his stuff and pushing his books prior to 342 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480 that and all of a sudden I always knew but tell you, I 343 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,880 didn't know. I'm still to this day absolutely 344 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:35,760 shocked and it breaks my heart, but I've seen no, no expression 345 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 of repentance on the part of Mike Bickel. 346 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,000 He's been brought before the church and we need to consider 347 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200 him no longer a brother, but someone we pray for that he'll 348 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,720 get right with God because what happened for decades was heinous 349 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,720 and it's heartbreaking. And I had, I've had people ask 350 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320 me, well, wait, if there's all these prophetic people, how come 351 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,680 they didn't know? And I would propose to you, the 352 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,640 reason they didn't know is because God himself operates by 353 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Matthew 18. He loves you enough not to 354 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,240 expose you in front of everybody. 355 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,000 He comes to you as a friend and said, listen, we got to deal 356 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,760 with this. And if we respond, then we can 357 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,000 be restored. And if it doesn't happen, then 358 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,840 he brings a friend with him, usually in the form of a 359 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,560 prophetic friend that will come and confront you. 360 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 And if you don't receive that from the Lord, God will begin to 361 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,560 push it out before the greater body of Christ. 362 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,920 And it's a terrifying thing. And people have insinuated, you 363 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,960 know, Pastor Dave, where was your discernment? 364 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,200 It's a valid criticism. I don't know what to tell you. 365 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 I was deeply impacted by Mike Bickle's teaching. 366 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,840 But I'm deeply disgusted by what I've heard happened over decades 367 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 over there. And I can't reconcile those two 368 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,880 things. And our tendency is to either 369 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280 distance ourselves and pretend we were we, we were never 370 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,880 impacted by that or to defend that type of behaviour. 371 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,040 And often it's rooted in a defence of our own credibility 372 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,640 and not really a righteous defence. 373 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:18,080 And so the fact is that God loves his people so much that he 374 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,960 will allow his name to be drugged through the mud to 375 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,840 redeem one of his children. He is not nearly as concerned 376 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,840 about his reputation as we are. And truth be told, a lot of our 377 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 concern is not really about his reputation, but ours. 378 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,000 And we've got to own that. And the reason this is 379 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,960 important, it's this is not just a, this isn't meaningless talk. 380 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,920 This is important for us to understand why this stuff 381 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,440 happens, not just the actions, but the reactions and what's 382 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,720 really going on in the human heart. 383 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Because this is the way we can protect ourselves from doing the 384 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,640 same. If we don't really get in on the 385 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080 inside of this and look at these as case studies and say how 386 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:09,600 could men of that stature end up in this place and then we are in 387 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,520 danger of getting in the same place ourself. 388 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 And so we need to look at these things. 389 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Now, there's an old Latin phrase. 390 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,960 I actually looked this up on the Internet to pronounce it right. 391 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,680 I wish I spoke Latin. It's a dead language, but it's 392 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,120 the foundation of so many others. 393 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,520 But so. According to Google. 394 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,160 This is how you say this phrase, and some of you have heard it 395 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:41,120 before. Fiat Eustisia, Ruat Kailume, and 396 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:46,840 the English translation is this Let justice be done though the 397 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,840 heavens fall. I don't know about you, but man, 398 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,400 that is a weighty statement to me. 399 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Let justice be done though the heavens fall. 400 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,640 And it's addressing that very thing within us that, well, we 401 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,160 got to preserve what we've built. 402 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760 We can't allow sin to be exposed. 403 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:15,560 We're going to keep it secret. I remember 40 years ago when I 404 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,040 first started in ministry, I was part of a church that was one of 405 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,680 the staff members got into drugs. 406 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,320 And what they did is just loaded him up in a truck one night and 407 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,560 he disappeared, never to be heard from again because they 408 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,400 sweep it under the rug and just ship it off to another church. 409 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,200 And that's not the way the body of Christ is to operate. 410 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,360 We're to walk with people. We're to contend with people if 411 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,000 they own it. We lay our lives down just like 412 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,320 someone did for us so they can be restored to right 413 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,960 relationship and health. But this issue about protecting 414 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,920 reputation is really one of the major reasons this stuff 415 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,000 happens. And so let justice be done 416 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040 though the heavens fall. You know what? 417 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,320 God is very secure in His own identity. 418 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,200 Let me read you. I've alluded to this word a 419 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,240 number of times, but it was a prophetic word that was given on 420 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,720 April 6th, 1987. The first time I heard it was 421 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,400 right around that time it was by a guy named David Minor. 422 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,120 Some of you may be may remember him last name MINOR, David Minor 423 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,960 and he gave it, if I remember right, at a end time handmaidens 424 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,800 conference in St. Louis, MO. 425 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,080 And the reason I'm reading it now, I believe it was a word in 426 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080 retrospect. I often tease I'm more of a 427 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560 historian than a prophet. I see real clear in retrospect. 428 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,320 You know, I'm very accurate in retrospect. 429 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,960 And this was obvious. Obviously a word from the Lord 430 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,960 for that season of church history. 431 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,440 If you remember those of you that are old enough to remember 432 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,800 and if you were walking with the Lord. 433 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:08,240 I came back to the Lord in 1983 and in 198586 it was like bodies 434 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,040 began to fall. Some of the biggest names in 435 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,920 Christendom, they were exposed of living in sin and it was 436 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,920 painful and people were like what in the world is going on? 437 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,440 And in 1987, this Word came out and at the time I was a student 438 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,960 at Jimmy Swaggart Bible College. And those of you that are older, 439 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,560 remember that whole scenario that was a year before that 440 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,600 ministry came tumbling down. And this is the Word. 441 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,640 And the reason I bring this up is we need to understand that 442 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,880 God operates by patterns. He calls Him His, them His ways. 443 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560 In other words, if we know his ways, how he's worked in the 444 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,440 past, we can understand patterns of his behaviour and principles 445 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,320 which he navigates scenarios by so that we can anticipate how 446 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000 he's going to act again. And if that's an accurate 447 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,480 interpretation of that, and I'm convinced it is, if God does 448 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,120 operate by ways, then we can look at how He's done it in the 449 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:10,200 past and realize we're in one of those same scenarios right now. 450 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,600 So listen to this word. It's just a little lengthy, but 451 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,120 I think it's worth hearing this morning. 452 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,040 The Spirit of God would say to you that the wind of the Holy 453 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Spirit is blowing through the land. 454 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,880 I believe this is a word for right now. 455 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,360 The church, however, is incapable of fully recognizing 456 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,120 this wind. Just as your nation has given 457 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,880 names to its hurricanes, so I have put my name on this wind. 458 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,840 The wind is named holiness unto the Lord. 459 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,640 Because of a lack of understanding, some of my people 460 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,160 will try to find shelter from the wind, but in doing so, they 461 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,360 shall miss my work. For this wind has been sent to 462 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,720 blow through every institution that has been raised in my name. 463 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:55,120 In those institutions that have substituted their name for mine, 464 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,200 they shall fall by the impact of my wind. 465 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,760 Those institutions shall fall like cardboard shacks in a Gale. 466 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Ministries that have not walked in uprightness before me shall 467 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680 be broken and fall for this. The reason? 468 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Man will be tempted to brand this work as a work of Satan. 469 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,080 But do not be misled. This is my wind. 470 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,800 I cannot tolerate my church in its present form, nor will I 471 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520 tolerate it. Ministries and organizations 472 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,680 will shake and fall in the face of the wind. 473 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760 Even though some will seek to hide from that wind, they shall 474 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,040 not escape. It shall blow against your 475 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040 lives, and everything around you will. 476 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,680 Appear to be crumbling, and so it shall, but never forget. 477 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,160 This is my wind, says the Lord. With tornado force. 478 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440 I will come and appear to leave, destruct devastation. 479 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,280 But the word of the Lord comes and says, turn your face to the 480 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,960 wind and let it blow, for only what what is of me shall not be 481 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440 devastated. You must see this as necessary, 482 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,520 but do not be dismayed, for after this my wind shall blow 483 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,160 again. Have you not read? 484 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640 My breath blew upon the valley of dry bones, so it shall 485 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,240 breathe on you. The wind shall come an equal 486 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,960 force as the first wind. This wind too will have a name. 487 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440 It shall be called the Kingdom of God. 488 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,880 It's interesting that this came out in 1987, in the mid 90s, 489 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,840 there was this outpouring of the spirit that brought with it an 490 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680 emphasis on the concept of the Kingdom of God. 491 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Now that's, that's something everybody talks about. 492 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Now. We talk about the Kingdom, the 493 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,880 Kingdom, and I'm telling you, I was in ministry before that move 494 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640 and I was ministry after it. And people didn't talk about 495 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,320 the, there was not a theology of the Kingdom established like 496 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,560 there is now. It's it wasn't as widely known, 497 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640 he goes on to say. It shall bring my government and 498 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,760 my order along with it shall be. It shall bring my power. 499 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,680 The supernatural shall come in that wind. 500 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,560 The world will laugh at you because of the devastation of 501 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,120 the first wind, and they but they will laugh no more. 502 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120 For this wind will come with force and power that will 503 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,000 produce the miraculous among my people. 504 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,960 And out of the fear of God shall fall on the nation. 505 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 My people will be willing in the day of My power, says the Lord. 506 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,760 In my first wind that is upon you now I will blow up pride, 507 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,240 lust, greed, competition and jealousy, and you will feel 508 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 devastated. But haven't you read? 509 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of 510 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,360 heaven. So also out of the poverty of 511 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,280 spirit I will establish My Kingdom. 512 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Have you not read? The Kingdom of God is in the 513 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Holy Ghost. So by My Spirit My Kingdom will 514 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,480 be established and made manifest. 515 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Also know this, there will be those who shall seek to hide 516 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 from this present wind, and they will try to flow in the second 517 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 wind, but again they will be blown away by it. 518 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,160 Only those who have turned their faces to the present wind shall 519 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000 be allowed to be propelled by the second wind. 520 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,520 You have longed for revival and return of the miraculous in the 521 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,920 supernatural. You. 522 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,880 And your generation shall see it, but it shall only come by my 523 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,680 process, says the Lord. The Church of this nation cannot 524 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,560 contain my power in its present form, but as it turns to the 525 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,360 wind of the holiness of God, it should be purged and changed to 526 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320 contain My glory. This judgement that has begun to 527 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,360 the House of God, but has begun to the House of God. 528 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,880 But this is not the end. When the second wind comes, has 529 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,400 come and brought my harvest, then the end shall come. 530 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640 I believe that was a word from the Lord and I believe we're in 531 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 another season that is very, very similar. 532 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,560 So I want you to turn with me very quickly. 533 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,480 And God willing, we'll, we'll have to continue in this passage 534 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,680 next week because there's no way we're going to get through this 535 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,040 passage. I, I was just wrestling and 536 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,680 wrestling with the Lord all day yesterday into the night. 537 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,880 I couldn't sleep looking for a passage. 538 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640 I don't know about you, but when, when the Lord's dealing 539 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,400 with me and I feel this turmoil, I look for a passage that has 540 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,760 the template of what I'm feeling so that I can realize, OK, this 541 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 is the passage that has the template. 542 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400 I can then look to that and get the truth that's going to help 543 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920 me navigate that. And this is the passage that I 544 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,800 felt like in the middle of the night, the Lord began to speak 545 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,600 to me out of Second Samuel chapter 6. 546 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,840 And if you're reading, it's, you know, there's probably in 547 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,040 whatever translation, something the effect of the ark brought to 548 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,880 Israel. This was following David's third 549 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,080 anointing to be king of Israel, the first anointing he received 550 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920 as a young shepherd boy and then went right back to the sheep. 551 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,040 And at that point, only a prophet, a seer, was the only 552 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,800 one who could see the potential on this boy. 553 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,560 Everybody else had sounded him. But a seer saw something. 554 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200 So he was anointed by one man, a prophet. 555 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,000 The second time he's anointed by family. 556 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,480 His tribal affiliation, Judah, made him king over them. 557 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520 There comes a point in your life where only your Mama sees your 558 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,960 potential. You know, sometimes even a Mama 559 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,160 can't see. It it takes takes a seer, but 560 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440 then a Mama sees something other people don't see. 561 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,920 And then finally, David rules over Judah for seven years, and 562 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240 now he's been anointed to be the king over all of Israel. 563 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,880 And the first thing on David's agenda, because he's a man after 564 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920 God's own heart. He wants the presence of God, 565 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,480 the Ark of the Covenant, to be central to his reign, his 566 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,640 administration. So he goes. 567 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,680 And he gets the the ark of God from the House of a guy named 568 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Abinadab, who had two sons, Aza and Ohio. 569 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760 And David. They've had this ark here for 12 570 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,400 to 13 years. And David wants to get it to to 571 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,480 Jerusalem, the city of David, so that he can rule and reign from 572 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,960 there. And he wants to make the 573 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320 presence of God central to his reign. 574 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,160 It's a beautiful value that David had. 575 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,280 And so we pick up the story in verse one, David again gathered 576 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:00,240 all the chosen men of Israel 30,000 So 30,000 people show up 577 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,880 man there. This is a big conference and 578 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440 they're so we're we're going after the presence and they knew 579 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520 where to find it. It was at a Benedab's house. 580 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,719 And so it says, And David rose, and went with all the people who 581 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239 were with him from Belle Judah, to bring up from there the ark 582 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080 of God, which is called by the name of the Lord of. 583 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Hosts who sits? Enthroned on the cherubim and we 584 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,760 need to understand this. This ark was a golden box made 585 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,480 of Acacia wood and then covered in gold. 586 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,360 And there was a lid called the mercy seat and and molded into 587 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,360 this lid where these cherubim with their their wings pointed 588 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,400 inward. And in the middle of that was 589 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,120 the mercy seat. And God said I will live on the 590 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,080 lid. He didn't use those. 591 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Words, but he said I will dwell on the mercy seat, he living on 592 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,560 the lid. So the people of God knew if I 593 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,800 need if I need an encounter with God, I know where God dwells. 594 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,360 There is a throne called the ark of the Covenant and it 595 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,920 represented the presence of God. And so David wanted that at his. 596 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,320 He wanted that to be central. And so they carried the Ark of 597 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000 God on a new cart. They got a brand new cart, then 598 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,280 put it on some old one, it was brand new, and brought it out of 599 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480 the House of Abinadab, which was on a hill. 600 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,360 And Aza and Ohio, the sons of Abinadab, were driving the new 601 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,840 cart with the Ark of God. And Ohio went before the Ark, 602 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,240 and David and all the House of Israel were celebrating before 603 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,560 the Lord with songs and liars and harps and tambourines, 604 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,960 castanets and symbols. You can see it, man. 605 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,240 Can you imagine 30,000 people? And they're excited, They're 606 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,000 dancing, they're playing music. David's out there leading the 607 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,120 leading the charge. They're all, they're excited, 608 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,640 sincere in their hunger to have the presence of God come to 609 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,720 them. They're all they're, they're 610 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,160 just so excited. This is an, an exuberant worship 611 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,480 service. And then verse 6 and when they 612 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,520 came to the threshing floor of Nakon, there is a whole lot of 613 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,840 imagery here that we need to unpack. 614 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,640 They came to the threshing floor of Nakon. 615 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,440 Aza put out his hand to the Ark of the Lord and took. 616 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,440 Hold of it. For the oxen stumbled and the 617 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,600 anger. Of the Lord was kindled against 618 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,880 Azza, and God struck him down there because of his error, and 619 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,520 he died there before the ark of God. 620 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,120 He's just wanting to keep. The ark from hitting the ground. 621 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,560 So he reaches up to steady it, and he's hit by the power of 622 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,080 God, and he falls down dead. And we read in verse 8 and David 623 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,560 was angry because the Lord had broken out against Aza and to 624 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,600 that to and that place is called Perez Aza to this day. 625 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,920 It means God broke out against Aza. 626 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040 And every time they'd pass by there, they'd remember that 627 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,120 horrific story and what's so disturbing. 628 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,280 And we we've got to be careful. We don't just read over this. 629 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,360 We need to catch what what is really happening. 630 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,880 These were sincere people. Who wanted the presence of God 631 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,240 unto them? They were hungry for God's 632 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,560 presence. They were hungry, but they. 633 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,880 Did not have the fear of the Lord and they came to a place 634 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,600 called the threshing floor of Nakon. 635 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Now a threshing floor in Scripture is it represents 636 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,240 something you remember when when John the Baptist gets up and he 637 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,480 said hey. What I do with water, the one 638 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,560 coming after me, he will do with the Holy Ghost and fire. 639 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,240 And so he said, hey, you know, you guys see what I'm doing? 640 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,960 I'm putting people down. I'm submerging them in the water 641 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,600 and they're coming up dripping, saturated with water. 642 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,080 The one coming after me is going to do that with the Holy Ghost 643 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560 and fire. He's going to submerge. 644 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,520 You will come up dripping, saturated with the Spirit of God 645 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600 and the fire of God. And then he adds this, he said, 646 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520 and his winnowing fork is already in his hand. 647 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,440 He's going to take you to the threshing floor. 648 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960 He's going to separate the wheat from the chaff, and he's going 649 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,920 to burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. 650 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,120 That really vivid language, and he's alluding to a very common 651 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,280 agricultural custom that everybody around there would 652 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,320 have been familiar with. What they would do is in the 653 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,040 harvest fields of Israel, they would take the highest point in 654 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,640 the harvest field and they would tamp down the soil and even put 655 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,800 add clay to a base. So they would have this hard 656 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,160 circular floor. And as they'd harvest the grain, 657 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,680 they would carry it all onto this floor called a threshing 658 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,880 floor. And then what they would do is 659 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,000 they'd take a threshing wheel, a large, it would it almost look 660 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,560 like a Fred Flintstone car. Remember those you know, And 661 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,640 they'd have this big wheel and they would crush the grain so 662 00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,280 that the outer husk known as chaff would be broken off. 663 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080 And then that which is usable would be exposed. 664 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,600 Then he says he, he takes his threshing floor, his, his 665 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,640 winnowing fork, it says it's already in his hand. 666 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600 He would take that winnowing fork and he would put it in that 667 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,320 grain that's been crushed under the pressure of the wheel and he 668 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680 would throw it up. And This is why it was important 669 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,240 that it be in the high place of the field because the wind would 670 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:27,520 be the most dramatic there. And so he would throw this grain 671 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,560 to the wind and the, the, the outer husk, the chaff is of 672 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,280 lighter weight than that which is usable, which was weighty. 673 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,280 It was substance. It had substance to it. 674 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,240 And the grain would fall to the ground and they would keep doing 675 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,080 that and the wind would blow away that which is unusable. 676 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,800 So all that would remain was that which is usable to feed the 677 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,160 world. But in this scenario, most 678 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,480 farmers would have been satisfied. 679 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,200 I'll let the chaff blow away, but not. 680 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,680 Jesus. Our Jesus, he was not satisfied 681 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,400 to simply separate the chaff from the wheat. 682 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,760 He was then going to gather the chaff and he's going to burn it 683 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,480 up with unquenchable fire. That's vivid language. 684 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,680 He was so set on getting rid of that which hindered people from 685 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,360 being able to get at which what is. 686 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,960 Valuable within you and I. There is something of value in 687 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,040 your life that God is placed in you by the new birth, but the 688 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,760 only way to get to it is through pressure and wind and fire to 689 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,560 consume so that all that remains is what will feed other people. 690 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,720 And it was a threshing floor. John alludes to that and it's a 691 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,200 very vivid picture. And it's not a coincidence that 692 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,880 in the journey to bring the presence of God to them, they 693 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,800 hit the threshing floor and the oxen stumbles. 694 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,840 Now, there's all kinds of symbolism here that oxen beasts 695 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,960 of burden represent in Scripture as a prophetic picture, types of 696 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,120 ministry. We use it that way today, if you 697 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,560 if you. Get around people that are 698 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,240 prophetic. They'll say, someone says I had 699 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:11,360 a dream of a bus, oh, that's corporate ministry. 700 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040 I had a dream of a car. Oh, that's ministry. 701 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,240 And I believe there's a validity to that. 702 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,840 Because in the old, in the in the Bible, Jesus, the first time 703 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,520 he comes on a mule and he's presenting himself to Jerusalem 704 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,000 in peace. The next time he comes on a 705 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,400 horse, a War Horse, and he's come for judgment and to make 706 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,600 war. And the beast of burden that 707 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,240 he's riding represents the type of ministry. 708 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,960 And so if we apply that picture here to this prophetic passage, 709 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,960 what it's saying is that when the people of God were hungry 710 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,760 and the the the presence of God was on the move, and when God is 711 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,840 moving, then we've got to really be sensitive and we've got to 712 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,720 transport the presence according to the protocol of Scripture. 713 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,280 And David failed to do that. He would they, Uzza and Ohio 714 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,600 were so familiar with the ark that their familiarity cost Uzza 715 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,000 his life. And we can get familiar with the 716 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,200 presence of God, but when God begins to move, we've got to 717 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,240 we've got to go low and we've got to realize that we have to 718 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,280 do things according to divine protocol. 719 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,840 And David had hunger. He was sincere, but what he 720 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,960 didn't have was a, a, a mind well stored with the protocols 721 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960 of heaven. And so they treated it with 722 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,200 familiarity. And the oxen stumble can 723 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,080 represent the stumbling of a minister stumbling in ministry 724 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:44,440 and, and other reaches up and he's he's laid low and he's 725 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,640 down. And we don't have time to get 726 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,960 into the rest of this passage. God willing, we'll get in next 727 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,360 week. But here's the thing. 728 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,880 Here's our take away this morning. 729 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,440 When the bodies begin to drop, it's time to go low. 730 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,120 It's not a time for us to stand and say, see, I always knew and 731 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,080 begin to cast aspersions on those people. 732 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,120 But because what we're seeing across the global landscape, 733 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,280 we're seeing major ministries being exposed right now. 734 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,920 And I don't know about you. I'm, I'm like, Lord, if there's 735 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,200 something in me, Lord, come to me private, just come to me Lord 736 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,440 alone. If you got to bring some of God, 737 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:31,600 give me the grace to respond. Lord, come to us and let us let 738 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,760 the wind blow through us so that we can qualify for what you want 739 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,800 to do in the future. What's going on begs the 740 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,160 question, number one, what in the world is happening in the 741 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,680 American church that this kind of corruption is underneath the 742 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,360 surface? And we've got to ask the 743 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400 question, are there things that we've been a part of that is 744 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,720 actually tolerated and accommodated and even encourage 745 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:03,200 that type of lifestyle? Have we created a hero worship 746 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,880 culture? We need to be. 747 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,680 Very, very careful. But we also need to be asking 748 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,840 what is heaven doing? Not just what's the problem on 749 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,600 the earth, what? There's the human perspective. 750 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,880 And we need to examine these things, this stuff, these kind 751 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520 of scenarios. Begged, begged the question. 752 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,960 We need to go back and look at our ecclesiology, our government 753 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,040 and the way the church operates and really say, God, are you 754 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,400 trying to tell us something? We want to build safeguards 755 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,040 because we know there's only one, not only only one worthy, 756 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,160 there's only one that's completely whole and his name is 757 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,760 Jesus. And so we need to go low and 758 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,400 allow the Lord to deal with us. But it also begs the question, 759 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:56,480 what is God doing This is this is unreal that ministry after 760 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,800 ministry after ministry and some of the biggest ministries in the 761 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,600 world have been exposed and God's not done, I'm telling you. 762 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,920 It it it it it. I hold my heart tenderly when I 763 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,880 say it, but there's there's more on the horizon. 764 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,880 And so we need to go low and when the bodies start hitting 765 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,320 the floor, it says David was angry with the Lord. 766 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,560 Go ahead and stand in it. We'll close with this. 767 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,960 So you know, I'm going to quit. Look at look at verse 8 it says 768 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,840 and David was David goes through the gamut of human emotion. 769 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,720 David was angry because the Lord had broken out against. 770 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,000 Aza. That's verse. 8 Verse 9 David 771 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,480 was afraid of the Lord that day, and said, How can I bring the 772 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,520 ark of God unto me? Verse 10 So David was not 773 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080 willing to take the ark into the city. 774 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,560 David had hunger, but now God added fear, so much so that 775 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,880 David's not willing to move. David said, how can I get the 776 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,160 ark of God unto me, not realizing that God was already 777 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,240 answering that question by building something inside of him 778 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:14,600 that would be a necessity to steward the presence of God. 779 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,760 God was adding. Fear to very real sincere hunger 780 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,200 and then what happened is David heard a rumor because they put 781 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,360 the ark at Obed Edom's house and it says David heard several 782 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,000 months later Obed Edom's house is really blessed someone 783 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,160 mentioned to David hey have you seen Obed's tomatoes they're 784 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,760 huge man and the. Wool on his lambs. 785 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,720 I mean, it's the best wool feel this jacket. 786 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,880 This is Obed's wool and David. There was something in David 787 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,200 that's got, I've got to get near the presence. 788 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,040 I've got to have that. And there was this tension 789 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,040 within him. It's similar to when God reveals 790 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,240 himself to Moses on the the mountain. 791 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,440 There's this interesting thing. God says Moses, Moses and Moses 792 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,000 comes near. He said, don't come any closer. 793 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,120 He's like, God, why didn't you call me Moses? 794 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640 Don't come any closer. And there's this tension, Lord, 795 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,600 I want to get closer to you. You, you've called me, I'm 796 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,640 responding and now you're saying don't get closer. 797 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,680 Why? Because you're standing on holy 798 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,680 ground. And God took Moses through a 799 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,680 process. So it eventually it says Moses 800 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,320 spoke to God as a friend speaks to a friend. 801 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:37,480 Face to face. If we really get what we're 802 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,720 praying for, then all of this is necessary. 803 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,440 There is always a threshing floor and a bump in the road on 804 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,000 the way to the Presence. There's When we begin to hunger 805 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,680 for Him, God will. God will begin to instill 806 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,320 circumstances which will reinstall the fear of God in our 807 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,800 life. So I want to. 808 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,120 Encourage you, don't be a cynic and don't be gullible. 809 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,320 Let's be humble and let's pray and let's say God, if you got to 810 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,360 do anything for, do it to me. If you need to do something in 811 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,640 me. But I don't want to be left out. 812 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,680 I don't want to live in Jerusalem while Obed's tomatoes 813 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,120 are growing. I want to live by the presence. 814 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,480 In fact, I'll leave Jerusalem and go live in Obed's barn if 815 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,960 I've got to be. Just to be next to his presence. 816 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,160 Hey, thanks for watching. At Heartland Church, we love to 817 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,880 worship the Lord and we love His Word. 818 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,920 In fact, if you could jump on and subscribe to our YouTube 819 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,160 channel, you could make sure that you don't miss any of the 820 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,320 services. We'd love to have you join us 821 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,400 live or in person every week. See you next time.