All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode
of the How the Hell Did We Wind Up Here podcast.
I'm John the Fed. I am joined this time tonight by
a Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise podcast.
If you haven't listened to or listened to some of the ones
that she's been on, I highly, highly recommend it.
Smart Lady comes from a maybe a different perspective, different
point of views just based on things in her life and you know,
work and religion and everything else.
So gives you a lot to think about.
So Heidi, thank you and go and interview everybody.
Say hi and we'll get. Going Thank you so much for
having me on I. I.
Am definitely feel like I've lived about 5 lives.
So I I decided hey, why not try and help some people, right?
That's that's what I do in general because.
I'm a nurse and so I'm a nurse. I'm a mom of 6, and actually I
am a grandma of 1 1/2. One's in the oven.
And so we've got all that going on.
And then I am an ex Mormon, which is what I'm most known
for. So I speak everything disclaimer
for anything we get into tonight.
Mormonism, a lot of people. I still really love her in
Mormonism. And it's not the people.
It's just like the government. You get up so high and absolute
power corrupts absolutely. And it's the same thing for any
church, not just. And you're still living in Utah,
right? So you're living in the land of.
Everybody that I do. Do a podcast with this.
Like, what? Do you want me to put this out?
I'm like, yeah, it's it's OK. And they're like, are you going
to get, like, killed? I'm like, well, I will say this,
I've never been suicidal. So if I'm unalived, it was not
me, right? So if I shoot myself in the back
of the head twice and ended up hanging myself, you know there's
a there's a problem. So.
Please, please figure it out. My conspiracy people.
Exactly. Well, for those of you who are
new to the show, the premise of this show is pretty simple.
We all know this world's a messed up place.
We can all identify a bunch of things that are wrong with it.
But the community, at least in my opinion, has a history of not
identifying how we got there. You know, we kind of throw
around words like Masons or lizard people, which by the way,
she was just on a podcast talking about lizard people.
But it's definitely worth the listen.
But you know, we throw around keywords, but we never talked
about kind of what led up to it, even the fact that we might be
culpable in it as well. So that's what this is about.
That's what we're going to get into.
Heidi's going to kind of tell us her her version of where she
thinks the world's gone, gone mad, how it got there, maybe
talk a little bit about how we can get out of it as well.
So Heidi, it's it's yours. Awesome.
All right. Well, a lot of times when I come
on these shows, they want to know a little basic about
Mormonism and I'm not sure if you want to do that or if we go
down this road, this is, this is your happy.
Either way, I've handed over to you, so you do you.
So I was a Mormon in that I was born into the church.
I was a Mormon for 30-4 years and I've lived in Utah a good
majority of my life. I definitely have had a lot of
struggles in my life and I've dealt with a lot of things that
I would say are pretty horrific but also I never gave up and I
feel like that kind of grit is missing and and nowadays like I
feel like, I feel like the backbone of the grandpas and the
grandmas are it's a lot different than now you know
grandpas and grandmas, it's changed.
There's a big flop and. I don't know that it's good.
The self centeredness of people has really gotten it.
It it's amazing. Like people estranged from their
parents, they don't care. They're living their best life,
they're out doing their own stuff, like and same thing with
religion. I feel like it's all over the
place, like everything feels really.
I don't know about you, but I feel less certain about this
world than I've ever felt. It depends on how you look at
it. Because I've always been certain
this world was evil, and now I'm even more.
Now I'm even more certain. So, you know, there's certain
things. There's there's things I'm very
much certain about, but, you know, just kind of how things
are going to play out. And, you know, you talked about
you've got six kids, you got 1 1/2 grandkids.
I've got two kids as well. You know, I've got nieces.
I've got nephews I've got, and they're they're younger than my
kids. Some of them are actually really
young. And it's, you know, you look
around, you're like, what is this world going to look like
when you're my age? Yeah, because what are we
leaving you? Grandma and grandpa now I feel
like like I don't know about you, but the majority of my my
youth when I went when OK. 1st. Well, we'll just give this
promise. My first 12 years were pretty
bad. In fact, the state stepped in
and took me away from my mom. So, like, that didn't happen
back in the 80s and 90s. That wasn't a thing.
And so for that to happen to a mother, it was.
It was rough. And so we dealt with a lot of
mental illness. We dealt with abuse from my
stepdad. It was just.
It was it. Was pretty horrific and so we.
We had this horrible situation, but after 12, I lived with my
grandma, and my grandma wasn't old because she had four kids
before she was 19, so she had her first one at 14.
And so it's not like she probably could have just been my
mom, mom age, you know, normal mom age.
And so, but everything we would do would circle around family
like OK. We're going to great grandma's
today, we're doing this with Aunt so and so today we're going
to have a big dinner with all these people for birthdays or
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now I don't think that's the
same thing anymore. I feel like people.
Are busy and they don't like that grandmas now don't even
look like grandmas. I mean, I know I don't like one,
but it's just it's. Like.
They're busy and they don't want to be, you know, bothered with
that or have that family. Stuff and I'm really family
oriented. So that that's big for me.
I think it's partly that. But I think too, you know,
anytime I go to go to the grocery store now, anytime I go
to the hardware store, anytime I go to Walmart, anytime I go to
the feed store, there's people who are grandma.
My grandparents age when I was when I was younger, you know,
there there, There are men and women there now who have to work
at 60. At 70, they don't have the, I
don't even say the luxury, but they they've never been given
the opportunity to to be able to to work it, you know, to stay
home as well. And be grandma.
Yeah, yeah, just be. And I feel bad because I feel
like it's so critical for kids because and Eddie Murphy used to
do a funny skit about Grandma's house, Big mama's house.
And he's like, you know, she was like, more stern and like.
She'd be like, you better switch that light off, you know, stuff
like that, funny stuff. But also, she'd have, like, the
best goodies. And yeah, well, you know, my
love for my love for cooking and my love for baking comes from my
grandma. It doesn't come from my mom.
It comes from, you know, my mom worked, you know, my parents got
divorced when I was, when I was young, fairly young.
And so my mom had to work and all that.
So after school, summers, whatever I was with my
grandparents. Yeah, and it was kind of a
normal thing. That's not like a.
It wasn't abnormal for a lot of kids.
They they were with their grandparents or their aunt or
whoever. And so I feel like that
camaraderie and that family unit is really missing.
And then so I have a daughter that I'm estranged from, not by
my my decision at all. And she has the baby that is my
grandbaby, which I've never seen.
I've never seen her. I mean, I've seen a picture of
her, but her husband just. He didn't like us.
He met us three times, judged us solely on like what he could put
together in three meetings, one of which was a quick breakfast
and called it good and you know, deemed that we weren't worthy
and took her and moved far away. They live clear across the
country, so I feel like it's it's more and more common.
Because I'm in an estrangement group, that this happens because
they want to build their own family.
They want to do their own things.
They're not concerned about my feelings.
They don't care, you know, if it hurts me, not just me, OK.
If I'm the demon that they say I am, great.
OK. So if it's true and it's just
me, that's one thing. But it was everyone.
She like, never came back here ever again.
It's been four years, you know, So I mean.
I just feel like now people are making these nuclear families
that are really small, like these little tiny and and it's
all a part in my opinion, the reason why I bring this up is
it's a part of the destruction of the family units so that we
don't have the strength in numbers anymore.
It's the same thing they've always done, trying to remove
males from the home, trying to you know break up families, all
all of it. I've never thought of it like
this before. But what you're saying kind of
rings true, you know, and the the again, the premise of this,
this whole podcast is how did we get to this point, you know, and
you can look back of, you know, 1970s, sixties, 50s, you know,
there was not a the technology that we had from the 80s going
forward. So you know, family time, game
time was you got around, you played cards, you played
Monopoly, you played Go fish, you played, you know, whatever
as a family. Make a pie together.
Bake a cake together. As soon as they started
introducing video games, guess what happens?
Little Johnny and little Sally go to their room and they can be
all by themselves. And then cable.
You know the TV. Mom and dad are watching that.
And so the the separation was just, you know, people look at
me cross eyed when I say it's been planned for a long time and
you're. Not wrong.
OK, in the 80, I got a Nintendo when it first came out, and
guess what? I did as much as I could, I was
in my room. But now it's Mom, Dad, Grandma,
grandpa, little Jimmy, little Sally, whoever they're they're
on their phones, as you know, their phone.
Everybody in the house is an individual.
Instead of like you were saying, it's a it's not a family unit
anymore. Well, and what?
Sorry, my asthma is really bad today.
And what? What do they push?
What do they push in society? Yolo.
Like. Live your best.
Life. It's all.
About you do. You Boo Boo.
Like all. This stuff is like very me,
centered. And if you go back to Aleister
Crowley, what does he say in that in the end age?
We will all be superstars in our own right.
We will all be our own star. And so the social media has made
it that way where, OK, I'm I'm, it's all about me.
Look at me. This is about me.
This isn't about, you know, anybody else.
And so I feel like that's so played into the breakdown of
society because no longer are we concerned about, you know, even
even doors like. I I teach my kids as a nurse.
Like, hey, if you see an older person, I don't care, male or
female. You.
Hold the door. You know, you you help them if
you see they need help. And I yeah.
And my son is good about it, but I have a couple of the younger
kids. Because we have a blended family
that used to not. It wasn't out of spite.
It was literally not taught. And they would, like, shut the
door and like one time it was on a lady with a Walker and I'm
like, hey. You.
Can't do that, you know. But to them it wasn't, it wasn't
mean, none of that. It was literally a non thought
process, like it didn't connect. And so they want us to be that
way, Because why if we band together?
Then they're in trouble because they want us at at odds at all
times. They want us black, white, male,
female, you know, whatever it is it it it's always a a thing
everybody 's taught. It's taught from such an early
age too. You know, I and I, I realized
this, I don't know, not too long ago.
And I I told a few people this, that it and it all it seems to
boil down to red and blue. You know, you're red and blue,
Democrat, Republican, red and blue, Coke or Pepsi.
You know, there's all of these, there's all of these things that
that separate even. Even, you know, if you, if
you're a fan of football, the Pro Bowl, when they wear their
jerseys, their AFC is red. NFC is blue, you know, and it's
it there. It's always red against blue.
And it's it just primes you to for when you turn 18, you've got
to make a decision. Are you red or are you blue?
Well, and it's such a delusion, because here's the funniest part
is we're all just in a play because they're selected, not
elected. Anybody that makes it.
And I don't care who they are. You can think They're the best
person ever. You can think, Trump's your
savior. You can think.
And and I'm not happy with Biden's presidency has sucked.
OK, but here's the thing. Is it by design?
Because then they'll be a great savior.
Is this on purpose? Like we have to step back and
say, OK, this is this is on. This was purposeful.
This was a decision made a long time before this occurred.
And if anybody's at the top echelon now, I'm not talking
about your sheriff, local or mayor.
Maybe you know somebody that's great, that's fine.
But you don't understand once it gets to politic level.
There has been. There is either blackmail,
there's leverages, there's money, there's connections.
I don't care. Who You.
You. Are like it's just the way it
is, you know. The thing is, is if if we know
the names and we know you know whoever it is involved, then
then they're not the ones doing it.
They're just. Oh, 100%.
They're just the pawns. They're the pawns in the game.
You know they're the ones who are who are like who are
they're. They're the controlled not even
opposition. They're just being controlled
by. They're just.
The scapegoat, they're just, and that's the thing.
You know the names, like you know the Rockefellers and the
and the Morgans and the Chases, Granted, they've they've done
some some pretty heinous things, but you know what?
We know their names, so they're not really the ones making those
decisions. Well, because my grandpa and so
my family was pretty colorful, even the good ones that took me.
So my grandpa was A1 Percenter and my uncle is a sundowner.
So this is like you want to explain those real quick for
the. Those so very similar to Hells
Angels, One Percenters actually are are I I think one of the
most violent back in the day. I don't even know if they're
still around, but. And then Sundowners is basically
almost identical to Hell's Angels out here.
There's more of them than the Hell's Angels.
So my grandpa would always tell to me, like you, if you do know
somebody's name behind something, then they're the.
Punk. Like, nobody knows with the mob.
Like, yeah, if they're throwing out the mob, the mob bosses
name, they're not the boss of anything because real.
Players, real bosses, real gangsters.
He used to be like you would never know who they are because
everything is done to protect them and and you wouldn't even
nobody knows because he used to tell me you know how to keep a
secret between two people, right?
Do you know make sure one of them isn't alive.
Yeah, kill the other one, Yeah, I used to say.
That, and I mean he was kidding, I hope.
I hope so. There's a lot of truth behind
it, though. I know.
I'm like, just ask the Clinton's friends.
Yeah, well. Or the laptop?
The laptop. Friends.
But like all of this stuff goes back to, you know, you have to
go back and remember that everything they're doing for you
is a show, and it's all controlled and they manipulate
people so easy. It's like we're little puppets
on a string. And once you cut the string and
understand, and I tell people all the time, and it, it sounds
bad, I guess because I say I'm one step away from an anarchist.
But what I mean by that isn't that I I love this country.
I'm patriotic to the people that have served.
My whole family's been in the service.
Like, I don't mean those people. I mean at the top level.
Like I don't believe in any of them.
And I think they all go have dinner afterward and laugh it
up. And they're like, haha, you
know, oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. And they drink their
adrenochrome smoothies. And I think I agree.
You know, I'll tell people too that I'm, I'm gonna, I'll, I'll
claim to be an anarchist. But my version of anarchy is
just just leave me alone, You know, let me, let me, let me
find my own community. And that's what I.
And that's why I told people it really needs to get back to is
there just seems to be different communities.
And if your values don't line up with our community's values, I
guarantee you there's another community down the way.
They have the same values that you do, you know.
So if you want to live in a in a dry community where there's no
booze and whatever else, and that's not going to be my
community, but it will there. I'm sure there's one.
You know, down the road there's probably a bunch in Utah so
well. You can find anything and
anything. I mean, you can.
You can go find some furries to live with if you really want to,
you know, I mean, and it's true in the winter time.
Right when it's. Cold and I'm like, this is so
funny that people will fight to the death or divide families or
argue about things that are so hysterically ridiculous.
I'm like, you do know that they're going to have dinner
later together. You do know that they run in the
same circles like you do know most of them are related.
Like the if you get down the heritage lines, like Madonna's
related to Obama, you know, I mean well and you know all the
all the, all the president. And this is pretty common
knowledge. I think everybody knows what I'm
going to say just in case there's one who doesn't.
But all the presidents are related to some king from
England and like the 14,000,000. Well, because they have the
divine right to rule. Exactly so.
And they don't make mistakes, I mean.
This is something that we have no control over.
And I'm not trying to I guess we're coming off kind of black
pill. But here's the problem is too
many people put their faith in a man.
And and here's. Herein lies the issue in the
Bible. What does it say?
Every man is a liar. I don't think that means that
literally every man is a liar all the time.
It means that men can be deceivers of people, even if
they have the best intentions sometimes.
They start things with every wholesome intent and get LED
astray by women or by, you know. Drugs or by money or by and and
I I say men right now, but it could be vice versa.
Like I'm not saying men or women.
And I always look at King David like God loved him very much.
He called in his beloved. And how many times did he just
keep screwing up over and over? You look at Hebrews has the roll
call of faith and you look at all the everybody who's in
there, you know, whether you believe they're real or not,
they're like it's they they were worse.
They were more worse than they were good in in a lot of ways,
so. Yeah, Yep.
And. And you just step back and go.
There's nothing new under the sun.
This has been going on for a long time.
So. So take a breath.
Don't split up your family over it.
Here's some good advice. You know, step away from it as
if it were not the most important thing, because you
have no control. We can only control our life.
Like you said, I just want to be left alone.
OK, here's the thing. We have to make our own
communities. Like you said, we have to make
our own people. Like you said, we have to find
our own tribe and say, OK, this is my people.
And sometimes you may not 100% agree with another tribe, but
later if they have similar values, we may all be called to
be together, which I truly believe.
So we have to be kind. And that has gone out the
window. Kindness and grace has gone out
the window. Like there people look for any
little like, oh, my mom is a narcissist.
She's just a terrible person. Write her off.
Like maybe your mom had a lot of pain and like, my mom, OK, we'll
use her as an example. My mom didn't protect me.
Could she protect me up against an abusive guy that was almost
killing her, almost killed her? Multiple times while she's
having mental breakdowns and all these problems, did she have the
capability to do to do anything for me?
No. But is it her fault?
No, it it it's the circumstance that was now people say she
could just leave, she didn't have anywhere to go and she was
in a state all alone with no family.
And we did the whole women's shelter multiple times and
eventually she did get out. But here's the problem.
People. People put that guilt on to
people. And then what does my mom do for
her whole life? She.
She's still. To this day is like, and I'm so
sorry. And I'm like mom, if I have
enough grace in my heart to say it's OK once that that's all,
because I hope Jesus does that for me.
Yeah, you know, yeah, my mom wasn't, you know, my mom was the
same way my dad was a piece of work.
And we'll we'll just leave it at that, you know, And she, she had
every opportunity to leave. But you know, you when
somebody's psyche breaks, you know, it's like it's they're not
making, they're not making rational decisions, right?
No. And it's.
You know, she's living in fear. Yeah, she's living in fear, I
think. You know, I'm not saying my mom
thought this, but you know, you hear lots of women who just
think they deserve it or it's just.
Or. Or she doesn't think she can do
it on her own. Or she's scared or and she has
kids to think of. And So what whoever everybody
says, OK, you got to put your kids first.
So then. Then you have this guilt too.
Like, oh, if I leave, then my life won't be as good and my
children will have more problems, like.
So ultimately we can't be in their mind for those choices.
And we have to remember like a A therapist once told me this and
it was so helpful to me because I was angry at that time with
her. And he said your mom was like a
little Chihuahua and your stepdad was like a big giant pit
bull. And even if she tried.
With all her Chihuahua might, she's not going to take down a
pickle. It's just not going to happen.
And so she did what she could here and there, but she had to
fight like different because she knew by being submissive.
Just like, what does a dog do that's small?
It'll lay down and show its neck.
It's a sign of submission. Why do they do that?
So that it shows there's no threat.
I think a lot of times whoever's being abused, men or women.
Get into that situation and that's how they react because.
They feel like they. Literally have no other choice.
You know so so and we're the collateral damage.
Like, I'm sure you weren't meant to be.
That I wasn't. To do that.
But you know, I've always, I've always looked at it as if me
going through it kept somebody else from going through it then
I'm I'm OK with that. You know.
I know how I've turned out. You know, and I I I made it
through on the other side where there's a lot of people who
don't. So and everybody that goes
through great suffering, it changes you if it's physical,
mental abuse or just like sickness, whatever it is.
That for me was a. Big.
Huge thing for my awakening because it it changed my whole
makeup of my brain. I don't feel like I'm the same
at all. I think that's the, I think that
was one of the whole things for 2020 as well.
That's when it happened because you know people, there's there's
a shift in in people's makeup, you know, like you like you kind
of what started this whole conversation.
You know people were more angry. They didn't put up with stuff
they didn't you know they only were thinking about themselves
and it's it's still continued and it's I'm, I'm guessing I
haven't studied the brain. I haven't studied a whole bunch
of electricity like our electoral stuff.
But when something like that shifts, I'm assuming it's
probably easier for a lot of other natural things to change
inside you as well. Absolutely, because if you're
feeling if you are living, OK. So they did an experiment far
before 2020. Where they made people this was
like either the, I think it was the CIA where they made people
afraid for a certain amount of time and they told them a lie
and then after this certain amount of time, I think it was
90 days was all they said. OK, we're just kidding, Like.
Say the sky is purple and then they come back and say now the
sky is actually blue. They will never change their way
of thinking. They will always think the sky
is purple, even though the person that lied to them, told
them, showed them, got proof, took out a chart and said look
at this blah blah blah. It will never change it because
that decision was implanted with fear.
And that was what that was about.
Well, it was, it was a lot of things, but that was part of
what that was about and so. I think that they wanted to see
how well that would really work on a mass scale.
Like, will this really work? Yeah.
And will they really follow us? And the majority of them did.
Oh. My community was a the LDS
community came out, their president of their church, came
out in their church and told everyone to get it and that.
Yes, that they should go and get it, including their children.
And I'm like you, Sir, like I already have issues with that
church. But.
You really just stepped over the line because you don't know
somebody's health or well-being. That should be a private
decision that just showed. And their doctor, how much
religion is involved with with a pharmaceutical, you know?
Oh, they own stock. Oh, I know they do.
I know they do. Yeah, that's why we can't get
the medical marijuana bills here without a great deal of sticky
tape. It's extremely expensive and
recreational. It's so against the law.
And I'm like, this is ridiculous, but that's because
they own a lot of stock in pharmaceuticals, so they want
you on. Whatever else they got, and this
is coming from a nurse. I mean, I've been a nurse for 24
years and I I still believe in medical interventions.
I'm not saying I have asthma. Like I have to take inhalers.
Like I have certain things that like allergies really bad.
If I didn't have certain things, I would, I would die.
I mean, it's just a thing. And so I I get it.
But you have to know. That when it's a chronic thing
and it's it, it may not be the best thing for you.
You need to do your work and you're studying and say, OK, if
it's a chronic liver problem, different, different talk we're
going to have. But if you're on chronic mood
medication, maybe there's other ways to get better.
You know, exercise releases amazing amounts of endorphins.
Certain foods do. There's a hundred other things
that can help you that they don't want to.
There's so many more natural things that are out there as
well. You know, I I tell this that
anytime I get a chance, 'cause I've I've let's see, it's
probably COVID was what, three years ago?
So this is probably 4-4 or five years ago.
My youngest got a huge rash on his leg and no clue what what
caused it, where it came from. Popped up just all of a sudden
and it's late at night and I think it's on like a Saturday or
Sunday. I'm like, I don't want to go
bar. This is going to cost like 350.
Dollars. Yeah.
And so I texted my buddy and I was like, oh, no, no, no.
I got online. I was like, I'm going to find a
natural remedy to cure this. I'm going to find something And
I'll tell anybody who listens be I'm like it sounds weird but the
the remedy was get a potato, blend it up, put it over the
rash, wrap it in Saran wrap, have him sleep in it and in the
morning the rash will be done, the rash will be gone.
He's gone. And ever since then I've been
like this is there is something out there about being able to
heal yourself with with nature you.
Know Yes. I knew about oatmeal, but I
haven't heard the potato, that one.
He screamed Like a like a like a he screamed and well, it's
because all the starch and the potato.
Was going. It's gone.
By the next morning he woke up and it was gone.
I'm like, you know what? Anytime I can from now on, I'm
going to go with kind of humid, natural pieces.
Well. And there's, yeah, some things
you can't, but like there's manuka, Manuka.
All my kids get strep throat. I'm going to go to the doctor
and get, you know, bubble gum flavored medicine.
Right, Because it's going to take it away because I, my kids
aren't going to be in pain, Sort of.
Thing, you know? So it's just you know?
You got to weigh it depending on what you're dealing with and
even I mean, some people like, I've seen things even as weird
as like sun gazing for eyesight and different stuff.
And I mean, I'm not sit telling anybody to just go Willy nilly
do that. You better do your research.
But I'm just saying there are other things out there.
That they do not promote on purpose because they they want
you addicted to the system. Are you familiar with he?
He was a doctor. There's two doctors.
One, the last name is Biggleson. Harvey Harvey Biggleson.
Henry Biggleson. And there's another one by the
name of I can't remember. They're both big terrain theory
guys and they both have proven through years and years and
years of different kinds of cancer can be cured by the color
of the food that you eat. Well, like this cancer, you need
to eat orange foods because you're you're, you know, this
cancer is because you're lacking whatever certain nutrients,
whatever nutrients are more in orange things or this kind of
can and they've got proof and dot, you know?
Wow. And everything.
And then the American health establishment, basically, you
know, they took away their license, did everything.
So they in and across the border down to Mexico, and they did a
bunch of stuff down there, healed a bunch of people and
it's wow. Yeah.
And we have to put this little disclaimer that this is just
discussion. Because.
We already know this is a. This is a fun discussion that
we're having. And we're not saying that you
shouldn't go to the doctor for cancer.
But see, it's actually obscene that I have to do that.
It's actually obscene that we have to say that because if, and
here's my big thing with with the thing from 2020, the cure,
OK, when in your lifetime have you ever been intervened on by
the government for your benefit and your health?
When has the government ever stepped in and paid for insulin
for people? When has the government ever
stepped in and paid for life saving chemotherapy that they
say, OK, right, Epipens. Epipens, yeah, I have, I have to
do Epipens. They're horribly expensive.
And so when why don't they come to me as a asthmatic that needs
these Epipens and say, oh, well, here's this for free because you
need it. They never.
Have before and they never have a get.
So that should tell people something.
And that's the part that I think is hilarious that people can't
see, oh, that this, oh, the government loves me and cares
about me and wants me safe. Like, oh, do they?
That's what I tell. That's So what got me really
started into this community was I got introduced to Flat Earth
and it automatically made sense, you know, and I started, I got
really excited about it. And for the record, I'm not a
Flat Earther anymore. I'm AI don't know what we're on
Earther. I am that as well.
I do think there is a rounded firmament because of rainbows,
but other than that I give it more of almost like a kind of
like a golf ball aspect. You know, like we're in one
little divot and then there's a wall, there's another little
divot, and then then there's another little divot and that's
where all the extra come from is from.
Anyway. Anyways, so I got introduced.
It made a lot of sense, started really trying to tell people oh
you should, and just vehement reactions to.
It oh, people think you're just loony.
Yeah. And so that's what I ended up
started having to ask him like, OK, can you tell me the
government has your best interest at heart 100% of the
time? You can say yes.
Then we don't need to pursue this anymore.
No, if you if you can't tell me that then let's let's let's
think a little bit so. Let's have a discussion.
And then when they say, Oh well, what, what proof do you have
that it's flat? And then you're like, well, OK,
here's this and this and this and blah blah blah blah.
Because I I've done a show with Josh Monday on this and he's
really knowledgeable. So I'm like, OK, he has all this
proof, that's biblical. If you believe in the Bible,
there's a lot And so they're like, but we have all this proof
that it's round. I'm like do you or do you have
pictures that were created somewhere?
Just like the Moon landing was created by Stanley Kubrick, so
they are, they are basically just, well, it's too big of a
lie. And it's just the thing of
vaccines. It's too big of a lie.
No. Yeah, you know, it it like the
whole moon landing thing that was.
That was hard for me to swallow because my grandpa worked for
NASA. You know, he was.
He was. One of the he was fairly high up
working for them. He was, you know, And so at
first I had to wrap my mind around that.
But I was like, no, he still he was just doing his job like he.
Well, and he, he probably didn't know.
Yeah, he didn't. You know, he's doing his
section. You have to remember that
everything they have, all the knowledge that they have, like
they dissect it. Why do they have cars built
like? The bumper is a send out to this
place and the engine parts are here and here and this is there
and blah blah blah. They don't ever want you to just
know how to build a car, right? Or just know altogether like
this guy is going to build a car from start to finish.
They don't do that anymore with anything.
It's not just cars, it's anything houses.
Houses used to have one or guys who could build you the house
and now you got to sub out this. Where can you sub out this?
Everything, everything. Yep.
Same thing with medical field. It's all what is it now?
It's all professionals that are in their own little specialty.
And I'm like, OK, that's great, But like, also you're missing
things because I'm such a well-rounded nurse, because I've
done just almost everything. I've I've gone into different
areas and just it just happened to be that I float and so I will
be here one day and there one day and there one day and there
one day and some people don't like that but I do and so I was
able to learn like this and this and this.
OK, so when I see a patient, I'm thinking critically like, yeah,
but what about this? What about that?
It could be this. It could be that where they
might only think about the one thing they're trained in, like
their heart, you know, and you're going to miss it.
Or what medicine is going to give them a trip next year?
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so allegedly not that.
Not saying that doctors think this way.
No. Allegedly claimer on that too.
There's no kickbacks, but one doctor had a boat with the name
Kickback on it back. Yeah, back with that whole
scandal with Purdue. So anyways, you know these
things. They've made movies about them,
like the you can go watch the show on Netflix right now.
I what's it called about the Purdue scandal?
And I can't remember right now, but there's a whole movie about
this. Like it's it's like a series,
you know? And I'm like, OK, well, what
happened there? Or what happened with Tuskegee,
or what happened with the Native Americans, or what happened with
OK, so you're telling me the government loves us so much, and
who did this whole disease hit? That was what really struck me
in 2020 when I started studying things.
And I I always say I started listening to the last American
Vagabond, Ryan Christian. He's amazing.
He documents everything at the bottom.
And he. He.
He gives you a link to each study that he went through so
you can go read it. Well, medical professional,
that's extremely important for me because I can decipher that.
Like, maybe that's not great for just some people that don't know
what all that means. But for me, it was important.
And so I loved it. And so it gave me this wealth of
knowledge. And I'm like, oh, this doesn't,
this doesn't add up. Like this isn't this isn't
working, you know? And so I'm going, why are they
pushing it then? Like, what's happening with
this? I've never seen anything be
pushed through like this. Like what?
What's this? What's that?
And so the more I started studying as a critically
thinking nurse, the more I'm like, Mayday may push the abort
button. You know, where's the abort
button? And they're pushing it through.
And I'm thinking to myself like, no, this can't be happening.
They're really not going to do this are they?
And so when they started making things mandatory and.
I was just shocked and I knew there were going to be a lot of
people affected because a lot of people I know would have lost
their jobs. I would have lost my job.
The the one thing that saved me is my little irritant tonight is
my asthma is so very bad and I have so many EpiPen allergies
that they were like, you know, I don't think we better she might
die like she might just. And I was never so happy.
I was like, yay, and then she's going to come back and yeah.
I was like, so I never gave, never gave one, never received
one. Yeah, I heard you say that the
other day when I was listening to the to the Drew's show and I
was like, that's amazing. I don't know if I've ever, if
I've, if I've heard anybody, anybody say that.
Partly because most of the nurses I know and people in the
medical field they. Believe, they believe.
We got to do it. We got to, we got to do it.
We got to save Grandma. And I'm like, wait a minute, Why
are you worried about that? That the transmission doesn't
even work that way for anything. Other than maybe chicken pox,
you know, like, I mean there's very few things that are that
contagious where you're going to hurt somebody else if you're not
vaccinated, if you have the true disease, you could hurt grandma.
But if you don't have the disease and you're just fine,
you're not. And it made no sense to me.
And then when they started blowing up all the variants, I
was like everything mutates that's that's not new, that this
is not new. That's probably why we can't
cure the flu, right? Yeah.
Or or figure out or figure out which flu shot to give every
single year. They just guess, you know?
And so I'm sitting here going, wait a minute, none of this
makes sense. And they're really blowing it
up. They're making it like, like,
this is really important, you know, like this variant, blah,
blah, blah is like, blah, blah. And I'm like, and my mom would
call me and she's like, scared because she has autoimmune
issues. And I'm like, mom, this is
normal, Like that happens. It's OK And she would get
scared. I'm like, don't, don't let that
happen. Well that's that's The thing is
that's what I think the biggest thing was.
And I don't, I don't know if that's what I don't.
I can't believe that's what caused people to be so angry
now. But so many people turn to the
masks. Well, the masks, they they turn
to living. They turn to living in fear.
You know, they they they just you know, like my mom, my mom.
My step dad has Fox News on like 30 hours a day.
I know there's only 24 hours a day, but somehow he gets an
extra 6 and. It's on all the time.
So she's there listening to it too.
And it just caused she just the strong woman that I knew growing
up was not that once 2020 hit because she just, her whole life
was just fierce. She was.
She's almost agoraphobic now because she just.
We need to go. Outside kind of thing and it's
just there's so many stories and people that are like that of
just like they just shifted something in a well and the the
fear and the shift the shift for the kids has been drastic like
my. Son, I said to my son, he's
almost 16. I said, hey, why don't you guys
go out like very much, like in a group, like go to a haunted
house or go to the movies like or go to the mall or like we
were always doing something when we were young, right?
And he said. Well, we're on the phone and I
said, well, how do you get a girlfriend or whatever and get
serious? Oh wait, this is what they say
when they kind of like somebody. They're just talking.
They're talking. And I'm like, but what?
Wait, why? Wouldn't you go out?
And then he's like, well, why would I go out when I don't know
if I like her enough to go out? I'm like because you might you
don't know and then he would be like, no, that's a waste of my
time and and they stay home. It's so weird.
And now you're like, you're like.
I hope she doesn't date you. I hope she finds stuff.
Yeah. Well, and it's not just him.
It's everybody. It's everybody it.
Really. Is so that weird.
That goes back to what we were talking.
About in the beginning of everybody now is it's an
individual. You know, it's I spent the
weekend with my youngest and his best friend.
And they're together, like in person, but they're they're on
their phones. They're on their phones and
they're sending Snapchats. To each other.
They're like 3 feet away. I'm like, what?
What are you guys doing? Sort of.
They're like, stop that. They just kind.
Of you know. Even with the young kids that
they I have a daughter that's nine, they'll play and.
They. She has gigantic playhouses for
Barbies, but they are on the iPad playing houses of Barbies.
And I'm like, why there's only one iPad and you guys are
fighting over it. And then there's these big
Barbie houses, go play in your room.
And she's like, no, no, it's not the same.
I can decorate the walls. I get, I get that.
I get like, that's cool. You can change the color every 5
minutes, but like also like that's.
I don't know that that's good. For your brain, you know, I
think it's so. Drew said it.
On I don't remember. He oh, he was on it.
He was. On there's a there's a podcast
out there called are we are we content or are we content
depending on how you how you read that work and it's with
CHUD and and moral Bob or the perpetual skeptics faces faking
gay whatever you know he's calling himself at the time he.
Drew said. That so, like, Heidi, your
generation, my generation maybe, you know, my sister's
generation. They're we're all the
generations that grew up without technology so we know how to put
it down. Our kids generations don't know
how to put it down because they have not grown up without it.
It is. It is in their hands.
Even you know the school district that both my boys, well
my my youngest goes to now and both when when my before my
oldest graduated. They're a one to one campus,
which means every student in the district got an iPad from the
time. Yeah, yeah.
My kids all have laptops. Yeah.
And so it's. That is just it's being and I
understand why it like it gives, it gives a lot of stuff that
teachers can do. It makes, you know, you don't
have to buy textbooks and all that.
But at the same time, it's just pushing them into a inner
corner. They have no clue how they're
going to be able to get out from.
Well, it also makes it so that they can change whatever they
want at any time. And that is terrifying.
Like if they don't like that page in the book, like delete,
you know, And that's concerning because then at what point I
already feel like we're Mandela all the time.
And then on top of it, you know, you got selective, you know,
deletion and So what? What is really real?
Like sometimes my son will say, I feel like I'm in a video game,
you know, And I'm like, yeah, I I can get it.
Like, yeah, I get. I get.
Why And and he understands because he does other things
which is great because like he'll he this is going to be
funny. He plays hockey, but he also
crochets although. You know what?
Maybe that helps him? Lose hand coordinate.
Hand eye coordinate. Yeah.
And he. Well, 2020 happened and I was
trying to go through the list of crafts to do with board children
and this, he was good at it and he was fast at it.
I was like, wow, we're really good at.
This, you know. And so he likes it and he makes
things all the time like he's made full on shawls, blankets,
everything. So he will put down the phone to
do that. And I'm like so grateful it's
anything. Yes, of course at sports we do
that, but like it gives. Him One more thing at home that
he can do like that you can create and I don't care if it's
even coloring like sometimes to decompress.
I like to color because it's mindless, right?
You don't have to think about it.
And it's not my phone and I can't have my phone if I'm doing
it, you know. So it's kind of a nice
decompression, but it could be anything that requires you know
your full. Attention, but it's just like or
your hand. Coordination, at least I guess
it's just I think it's so important for them to get those
brakes to step away. It's just not.
It's not. It's not healthy for them to be
how involved that they are, no. But you know.
Even as even as parents, you know, we probably don't set the
best example because, you know, I love to read and a lot of
times there's books I want to read that come up free on the
Kindle. So what?
What am I doing on my phone or my iPad?
Reading a book You know right and with.
My kids too and. They don't know that.
Probably they just they don't know.
Or they just are they? Just, yeah.
Well, that's the thing, so. A few.
Few episodes ago. My son and two of his friends,
we recorded an episode, all three, you know, all of us
together, they came on, they wanted to talk about social
media and the importance that it plays.
And I came to realize for them though, there's a difference
between being on social media and just looking at it.
Just scrolling, just scrolling, scrolling to them is not.
Being on social media, it's just.
It's it's like me when I was a kid going through my baseball
cards or reading. Yeah, it's mindless, mindless.
And they're just scrolling, scrolling.
Scrolling if they're if they're on social media, then that means
they're taking Snapchat, sending them out.
You know Twitter, they're actual.
They're active on it, sort of. I thought that was really
interesting because I'd never correlated the two of I'm like,
why are you always on social media?
I'm not on social media. No, I'm just scrolling on
TikTok. I'm.
I'm not. I'm not on it.
Yeah, on it. I'm just interacting.
With or I'm just that makes sense.
It does, and it was so interesting because I.
Never looked at it that way before.
Well, and it's a instant dopamine release.
And people don't understand fully.
Like, they did this because they had the knowledge to do this.
This was not a mistake. This was.
And also that whole story about how it was founded, like face as
bull crap. It was all done by DARPA like,
come on, you know, and it was handed down to certain people to
develop it, period. Like it's just.
The way it is and so and if you trace the family bloodlines back
on all of the people that run, all of the things you know,
you'll find all of your answers. So it's just it's amazing to me
that they push like this dopamine hit and then like if
you if you get away from it, how do you feel?
Inside. If you didn't get some likes
today, how do you feel inside if you're not getting, you know,
reaffirmed and they're constantly being reaffirmed?
Well, even even. Something even more simple is,
you know, I'm I always am feeling my phone vibrate in my
pocket when it's not vibrating. Like I could, I could.
For some reason it feels like it's vibrating.
And I put my head back, I'm like, OK, nothing.
Just. Happened.
Why did it? Feel it was vibrating, you know?
And it's a simple they go through the same thing as well.
Or they hear a phone vibrate and they got a check.
Because what if it was my phone? Yep, what if?
And there's even a new app that's out.
Well, I'm sure it's not new, but I've only found out about it
where they'll send out a just. Like a picture to.
To their group of friends or whatever, Their friends only
have 5 minutes to to like it, to ask consent.
Yeah, so after 5 minutes it's gone, whether they looked at it
or not. So that's all.
That's another thing that's put just pushing them.
Pushing the time frame like always being on your phone.
Always. On, that's why I'm.
Always so grateful. I live in an area that has
mountains. We've always camped, we've
always gone and done things. And I'll tell you, a couple
years ago we went and they started doing more like Wi-Fi at
these places. And I was not happy because they
were just sitting there around the campfire on TikTok and I'm
like, put your phone away. We talk.
We we normally talk. And you know, my son came home
from that particular camp, camp time and he said I I didn't like
that I it wasn't fun because we didn't do the funny things we
normally do, like, you know, to engage with each other.
You know, interactions are lost art.
Oh, it's so. And I'm so happy with my
youngest, especially because she has so severe ADHD.
I put her in mainstream school, but then 2020 happened and she
just, she was kindergartner in 2020 and it just wasn't it
wasn't good for her. And she doesn't learn anything
or retain anything off a computer.
She doesn't. We've tried and tried and tried
and tried. It doesn't matter it it doesn't
go in her brain and and so if you get a book and do it she's a
lot better but they want to do. Everything on the computer.
And so I yanked her out because they were.
I did the medications. It made her really weird.
We tried all the different kinds.
I didn't like it. It made her weird.
It wasn't her. And so maybe that was just my
kid. Other people have a fine
problem. That's great.
You do what you need to do for your family.
I'm not for or against, but for my choice, For my child, it was
not OK And she's a rapid metabolizer, so it will wear off
by 2:00 PM And she would have this huge crash and become like,
literally, I'm like, she's a gargoyle in the corner.
It was horrible. So I'm like, you know, she was
like Gollum with her tablet. She was like, I'm like, oh,
you're scaring me. And so I was done with it.
And so we took her off. And the school was just so hard
to work with. They were constantly like, she
was so good when she was. I'm like, OK, I know.
But like, she wasn't herself either.
Like, you're minusing the good parts of who she is, and she's
going to run the world one day. Like, this kid is smart.
You know, I, I I told her one day.
I. Said.
You know what? Aceo is and she's like, no, so I
explained to her. You've got to go through these
steps to be the boss. You can't just be the boss.
You have to earn to be the boss. So I'm explaining it to her.
So I guess she went to school the next day.
She was only 7. And she told the teacher, I'm
not doing any of the work because I'm going to be Aceo one
day. And I was like, so I got a phone
call. They're like, did you tell her
she didn't have to do her work because she's going to be Aceo
one day? And I was like, Oh my God, oh
that's funny. I'm like, this kid is.
Smart, you know? So, But very unruly.
But not me. Just doesn't want to do.
She wants to go talk or hug people or chat, and it's not
anything nefarious or bad. It's all cute, but like, it's
disruptive. And I get it.
So we took her out, we put her into a Montessori school, and it
has been the best thing we've done.
I was scared because I was like, yeah, but what if she doesn't
learn how to read, write or what if this or what if that?
And she and the lady that does it is happens to be my neighbor.
And she said listen, do you know in Sweden and other countries
they don't even send their kids to actual school till they're
almost nine And I was like, what?
And she's like no. And reading in like other
countries where even the people that are like off the grid, like
Aboriginal type people where they have no contact with the
outside, they learn their language, like the reading of
their people by mouth and by teaching because it's so
important, kids will learn language.
She's like, it happens. And I was so scared, but I
thought, OK, whatever. We've tried this other way.
It's not working, you know, So we do it because.
Well, also she went to school one day and told her teacher she
was 8 then and this teacher and her there was no escaping the
teacher because she was the same special Ed teacher no matter
what grade. OK, so we're not escaping.
And she looked at her one day and she said, I know why your
husband left. Too.
And I was like, oh. OK, I got a phone call, got a
phone call about that one. I was like, I don't know why she
knew that the husband left, but she did.
So I guess the teacher shouldn't have shared, but I'm.
Like, well, you can't say she's dumb because that was pretty
funny, But did you ask? Did you ask the teacher if she?
Was upset because she said it, or if she was upset because it
was true. It might be true.
Yeah, I was like, Oh my gosh. So I yanked her out.
And like I said, she does two days a week that are kind of
normal classes, but she has one day a week.
That's a nature class. And they take her and they do
these hikes and they teach them like what mushrooms you can eat
and what mushrooms you can't eat and like all this cool nature
stuff. And she loves.
It. She loves it.
And I'm like, I think a lot of times it's just finding what
they're passionate about. Yeah, like you have.
You know you have to find the niche, right?
And you have to find a way to teach them too.
I, you know, I'm, I'm married to a teacher and I've got family
who are teachers. So I I choose my words very.
Carefully. But you know it.
It's. It's it.
Sucks that every child has to be.
Taught the same. There are some children who just
learn differently. You know, we my, my youngest was
diagnosed with, he's diagnosed with ADHDI.
Don't know if it's necessarily ADHD or just, you know, he's
just there's a lot he wants to do in a short amount of time.
So and we, you know, we were really blessed with the fact
that he had. He's had teachers who understand
that they're like, look, if you got to get up and walk around,
get up and walk around just. Right.
Walk around and go help other because what he would.
Do is he'd get up and walk around, but he'd go help other
people with their stuff and they're like, not how funny that
you just got to get up and walk around kind of thing, right?
Because yeah, don't be distracted.
And they understood like. With for some students, I I
can't teach you the same way and that's the same way that you
know back in the 1800s. Apparently I I didn't live back
then so I don't I don't know. But from what I'm?
Their classrooms were set up more in a circle versus in row
because circles, you know, circles encourage conversation.
Circles encourage people to call to each other where if it's in
rows, you know you're not necessarily going to get that,
you're going to get the teacher. More kind of dictating, you
know, right. Dictators interaction from the
kids. Sort of thing.
So yeah, that makes total sense because I think that just the
art of of just being. And here it goes back to what we
started with empathy. The empathy has left in so much.
And it's not just the teaching, it's like nurses.
I always say to everybody, I've been a nurse 24 years and I
always and people are like, well, when will you stop?
And I'm like when I become Nurse Ratched because when when my
when my whole goal is like to make your worst day ever worse
then then that's. Enough you you can't do that to
people. And if you're here and you're
trying to help somebody, but you're being so cruel or not
understanding. And I work in psych now I I'm
out of the medical part and I work in psych.
And so it's a completely different ball game.
But I've only done that for five years.
Well six I think 6 years so but you have.
To have this compassion and it's strange because they know they
know exactly who has it and who doesn't have it and so.
It it's like it's not a spoken thing.
Like the patient will be bad for certain people and then you'll
come on and if you have just a certain demeanor there, it's
like they know, you know, oh, she gets it or she's kind or
whatever, you know? And I don't want it to sound
like. You know, like my wife, she
loves her students. You, you know, from the ones who
are who are perfect to the ones who give her the most trouble.
Loves, loves each and every one of them.
And you know, but the the, the adage with all the teachers here
is after the first, you know, they have so many hopes and the
teachers have so many hopes and dreams on day one, day two.
And for and beyond they're playing defense.
And that's all that. And it's, you know, the big.
Thing out here that. The It's a it's a It's not
really a joke. It's a sad.
The sad truth is we have out here what's called a star test.
It's you know it's the state regulated test and all the
teachers know instead of doing. It the way that they want to do
it. They teach to the test,
basically. They have to.
They. Have to because that's what.
The teachers agree, and that comes down from that comes down
from the district, which gets it from the state, which gets it
from so and so and so and so and so and so.
It's it's so hard for them. It's.
Hard to see. That you know it's.
This is what they do. Yep.
And that's exactly they. Do the same thing.
Here it's called something different.
I think it's like dibbles or something like that, but same
thing. And and with my daughter, she
has, it's always on a computer and I'm like, she doesn't retain
anything on a computer. It's really hard for her.
And they're like, well, sorry, you know, kids get so.
Stressed. About it as well, like they make
themselves physically sick. You know, the days before and
you know, there's kids who like their hair's falling out because
they're so stressed or their stomachs are not throwing up and
they can't do things. It's just, you know, it goes
back to again, you know, like, like you were talking about with
empathy. The teachers have so much
empathy, but at the same time the teachers are up again.
They're held. Yeah.
They're held. They're held accountable to
these things as. Well, and it's like, Oh yeah,
that's with everything. Yeah, and I'm sure it's that way
with you with. With being a nurse as well,
you've got, you've got for your patients.
But empathy means you're going to spend more time with your
patient, which means you your eight hour shift turns into a 12
hour shift because you're adding, you know, 10 minutes to
each of your patients or whatever.
And it's just well, and they don't.
Even allow us, they're like, oh, OK, we know you work in psych,
OK? Psych nurses usually work there
because they've had some problem, OK?
Like nobody wants wants to work there.
Like it's it's kind of a niche where you're like.
OK, you've either had trauma, known somebody that had trauma,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right.
Because you have to to know how that feels to kind of give good
care. So most of us do like either had
a brother or sister or family member whatever ourselves has
had some issue. So they tell us, well don't
don't share your experiences. You're not a therapist.
I'm like, OK, oh, and don't pray with them.
Or, like, put your. You know views on them or like
try and help anything and I'm and don't touch them because
that might be make them feel weird and you know like if you
were to hold their hand like you know so everything is so like we
we can fist bump but we can't even we can't even do we can't I
think we can do a side pat but we one time I had a patient and
just wanted a hug you know and they're like no boundaries
boundaries and. It's hard but.
I know. Why?
Yeah. I know why, but it's.
Still hard? You know, and and same thing for
teachers. Teachers have had people that
have stalked them or weird stuff.
And you know, I get it and I know that's what they're trying
to protect us from. But at the same time, I'm like,
I became a nurse because I wanted to help people.
But now I just chart. I just chart, you know, and a
lot of times I'll stop. And do things anyways, like if
somebody asked me to pray. With.
Them, I will pray with them. And I'm like, well, they
videotape everything, so I'm sure eventually I'll get called
in. But you know.
It is what it is. I'm not going to not, it's not
my idea. If it's if they come to me, I'm
not going to turn somebody away and that's that's too hard for
me and just just think. We're probably in a simulation
anyway, so it's already written with them.
So yeah, True. Well, I mean it's.
All just wild to me, like how we how.
Much is beyond. Our control, like, really it it
is weird. I mean, granted, we can take
hold of what we can take hold of, but a lot of times it does
really feel like some. Things are just set.
You know. But kind of like a.
Choose your own ending story more, I guess.
Like like there's two ways because you always have choice,
but like. Not ten ways.
There's like two ways. You know what I'm saying?
But. And you hope?
You always choose correctly, but if you don't, here's the thing.
We're all fallible. We all fall short of the glory
of God each and every day, and I really encourage people to be
more graceful quit being so easily offended if I could give
any advice for anybody. Try not to be so easily offended
and try not to do rash things like, Oh well, this and this and
this. So I'm going to unfriend them on
Facebook right now and I'm like, maybe not, you know, maybe you
should wait a minute. What if they're just having a
bad day and it really isn't you, You know?
Because I've had days like that where maybe I was very nice that
day or something, you know, and the next day is better, but then
it becomes this huge thing. That you can't surpass.
You know, I've gotten I've. Gotten to the point to.
Where, and this is what I try to tell people is understand the
energy that you're putting out there.
You know, good energy, bad energy, whatever it is, you
know, we are definitely in a in an energy toroidal field.
You know this. Everything is built on energy.
And vibration. And just understand what you're
putting into it. You know, if you're arguing with
somebody on on Instagram or Facebook, you know, or whatever,
like Scrolls, Scrolls, Facebook. Yeah.
How much? How much energy is that?
Sucking from you so true, what could you do?
To go actually. Raise your energy, Raise your
vibrational frequencies Versus versus what?
You're doing sort of thing, you know?
Absolutely. And and.
It's designed that way, yeah, very much.
Yeah, and then like. It's it already naturally
happens to a lot of people, like some people are M pass or some
people just are different than others.
So like my son said to me the other day we went to amusement
park and it's fun, we love to go.
But he looked at me halfway through and he said, when you're
out, do you ever just feel like so exhausted?
And I said, what do you mean like from walking around And
he's like, no, just from all the people.
And I was like, I get it, you know.
And I told him, you got to put your armor of God on every day.
Because if you don't, have you ever called?
Somebody and they answer the phone and say I was just
thinking about you. I'm just thinking, you know,
that's and if it happens. Once.
That's a coincidence. Maybe even twice, you know?
But it's it happens so many times, it's like there's
there's, there's a there there, there's something, there's
something there. Something.
Yeah. And they feed off of me.
Well, they're. Constantly trying to irritate.
Us. Like, I mean, and I say they the
powers that be because of course we don't know the real names
because real gangsters, you ain't going to know their names.
Like, come on, yeah, let's be real.
Like who really runs the mob? Nobody knows.
Like, because they're smart. But I'm like.
Here's The thing is whatever you have inside, you also remember
you can't just give and give and give and give because eventually
you're going to be out. Like I always think of gas.
Like you give gasoline, you give gasoline, you're going to.
There's not an unlimited amount. You're going to have to figure
out what fills you up, you know, because some people are drains
and and that's not good necessarily.
It's OK sometimes. Maybe they're going through
something or whatever, but if it's all the time.
Yeah, I understand that they're a drain or?
Like what they're doing right in training, but if they just kind
of come up to you and they're just a, you know, every time
it's load on you, it's. Like.
I'm, I'm tired. I like, I don't know how to go
through this. I'm tired.
Right. Yeah, and.
Then you know that it's just going to end up the same way.
Ever seen that? Like you're like, oh man, I
don't want to talk to them today.
You know those? Kind of conversations and it and
it's for a reason. But they do these kind of things
in general to like harness that energy.
It really is like that negative. I always think of Monsters Inc
where they like, are harnessing the screams of the kids and I'm
like, you know, and at the end. Yeah.
Oh, they tell us that's revelation of the method 100%.
Because they have to. I mean, if if you're going to
get into the law, they they have to abide by laws too.
You're one of the few people I've heard.
Talk about that. I know because I'm on the I'm on
the same thing you are that that that there's under whatever law,
whether it's God, whether it's, you know, law, the universe,
whether it's Inky and Inky or whatever.
Like, they have to tell you so, but usually they tell you in the
most asinine ways other than, right?
Yeah, they make it seem. Ridiculous so that you won't
believe it, or movies that nobody's going to watch.
Like the Straight to D movies? Exactly.
A bit. Like the worst D movie.
But I I mean they, but they also like people are so fearful and I
don't know if you're are you Christian?
Whatever you are. You understand Christianity.
What I'm asking OK, so your basis for Christianity, you got
a good concept on it. OK.
So whatever it is that makes you understand that you have to
understand as above, so below. I don't care what your pastor
says. I don't care what anyone says.
If you don't know both sides like foot.
I always say football, If you're going to or hockey, you're going
to go play a team, You're going to watch their reels.
You're going to watch their games.
You're going to study their crap.
Why? Because if you don't know both
sides, that means the bad and the good, and you're going to
lose. And so a lot of times when I
bring up in like the Christian stuff, I'll bring up things that
are. Like Aleister Crowley, like the
as above so below or this and that and like different things
that are cult because I'm like you do know that the same
person. King James that made the King
James Bible. He made a book on demonology as
well. Why?
Because he.
Didn't make. Anything, he just put it
together. It was already done.
So if it was important enough for him to actually scribe out
and bind together a book about all the Christian stuff.
And he did exactly the same for all the evil stuff.
Maybe you ought to be wise to that, because there are no
accidents. They're trying to tell you
something you know and. Whether you believe in
Christianity. Per SE or not, it's still
energy. It's still like good and bad
energy. And so you have to know what
you're doing. You have to be able to protect
yourself. How are you going to do that if
you don't know what you're up against?
Yeah, I played. I was.
Lucky to play baseball all the way up through college and we
always had a scouting report on the pitcher we were facing.
He always starts off first pitch fastball.
You know. You know their stuff.
You know their stuff and they have the same.
Thing on us like this, he's a fastball hitter.
Don't give him anything low and inside, you know, or they would
study because you again, you know, like Sun Tzu said, you
have to know your enemy. Yes.
And if, if we can. Understand it like you just
explained it to me. You could explain that to
anybody. In sports and they would be
like, yeah, no, that's totally makes sense.
But if you went and told the Christian.
You should be studying about demons.
They'd be like, you're crazy. And I get that look sometimes
when I'm in the Christian, you know, you couldn't see it on the
one, I think 99% of pastors. Will tell them not to.
They will they tell their. They tell them it's dangerous.
The church we're going to, they told us.
He basically said, he said don't read anything about your Bible.
You know, don't read, you know, don't.
Don't look at anything else. Don't read anything else.
And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.
No, because it doesn't. How are you going to?
Figure anything out because Paul quoted from.
Things that were extra biblical as well, you know, And and what
about those canons? Like the canons that they didn't
put in the Bible are just as important, I'm not saying.
They're the word, but they are important because they wouldn't
be written if they weren't. And many of them have Dead Sea
Scrolls found later to support them, just like the Bible.
But yet they never added them in the Canon.
Why? Why is this the stuff they don't
want you to know? It's the same thing I asked
people. You know, do you do you think
the government has your best interests at heart?
Do you trust the Catholic Church explicitly?
No. Well, guess who was really in
charge of the Bible when it first happened?
And gathering all the books and who has archives that's like 17
miles long? What do you what do you think
they're? So much is.
Missing so. Much is missing.
We only get. I think if if we're honest, we
probably have not even a a thumbnail of knowledge
considering what we really need to know on both, yeah?
'Cause I've been to the. Vatican and it's insane.
The size and everything. Yeah, I mean.
It's overwhelming, right? And.
And then you've got. That the.
Building that the Pope sits in that looks like a serpent's
head. Oh yeah.
There's so much stuff. And what do they say in the end
days? That the church will help bring
it to that they will help bring the Antichrist to power the
church that's that's in there. So I always tell people.
Like. Even though my life was hard,
even though I was in Mormonism, even though all this weird stuff
I always people are like, well, you didn't leave all the way.
Because a lot of people, when they leave, they become
atheists. And they say, how did that not
happen to you? You didn't have a lot of other
people in your life, you know, that weren't Christian when I
was young. I did later, and I would say
because I always knew who God was, because I felt it.
It wasn't what someone told me or what I read or any of that
crap. As a little kid, desperate and
in desperate situation, I knew there was something else.
And you have to get. To that point, that's.
Why I always say to people God's not in a building, you know,
they make such a big deal about church God.
I That's why one of the reasons why I have the mountains on my
logo and why I call it unfiltered rise, because the
mountains are church for me. I love the mountains.
Maybe that's not for somebody else.
Maybe they love the ocean. You know, whatever.
It's fine. But for me, that's where it is.
That's where I feel the most with God.
You know and and that's what I do and I I just.
I don't. I will never belong to a belong
to another church roster. I might go, you know what they
want People who. Worship God in nature.
They call them pagans. Yeah, I know I'm a little.
Little bit, but I believe only in the Bible.
So that that's good. But I do think we should be
armed with all the knowledge. I don't think that just because
I only believe. In.
The Bible doesn't mean I don't think things are missing.
It doesn't mean I don't think things are hidden.
It doesn't mean I don't because I've been fooled before.
See So. I.
Know. That all I can do is take what I
do have. And study the things that they
have like you have to. Know what?
You're up against because if I had known some of the stuff
about OTOI wouldn't have been doing weird stuff in the church
at the temple ceremony, because I would have known it was part
of a Gnostic mass, and I don't think I would have chose to do
that. You married at the temple?
I was, yes. So you could go your.
Husband could go to his own planet and you have a bunch of
wives? No, not this husband.
But my ex-husband, he's yeah. Yeah, he he probably wants that.
Still, that's why we broke up. He was already trying to play
that number but I was like but. Yeah.
He I mean. You know, anything that that any
person gives you and stamps church on it, you better really
examine it, yeah. Because.
It's. It's too many.
People. Like leading other people astray
for their own, for their own will.
Well, if, oh, I yeah, if you could know the truth.
There wouldn't be 700 denominations alone.
The Christian, you know, just alone in the.
And I'm not. I'm not including Mormons or
Catholics or no, but he's just talking like Southern Baptist,
Second Baptist, First Southern Baptist, Anabaptist, you know,
Northern Baptist, blah, blah, blah.
You know, there's like, if the truth was, if the truth was
readily available to us there, you wouldn't have that.
And but instead you've got all these denominations saying we've
got the right track. We'll show you how to worship
Gras. We we know.
Yeah. We know the truth.
We know well and. Here's the thing.
If you really study something with a true heart and you are in
just the Bible, nothing else, no other thing.
Study. It pray about.
It Think about it. Ponder on it.
It doesn't say we're just supposed to read it and be like,
OK, I read that that's great. You're supposed to be.
It's not. It's.
It's the. Living word you're supposed to
be a in the Bible says. You're supposed to be a Berean.
You're supposed to, you know daily, you know, daily being in
and challenge what you believe in and back it up and you know
that's the that's what I loved about Paul.
Paul was just I I loved Paul because.
It was such a weird story, like for him to be what he was and
turned into what he became and then to study everything he
studied and turn it all around. Like that's an amazing story and
that can be any of us. And I don't care if somebody
tells you you have to do ABCD, that's not true.
Figure out inside yourself. It's the living word for a
reason. And I don't read it.
I think everyone should read it in its entirety at least once.
But like, when I go to study, I don't do that.
I don't pick up where I left off last time.
I pray and I just open it because there's usually a little
message in there for me for that day.
And maybe another day it will be the same thing, but it will mean
something different that day, you know?
And I I mean, that's just for me and my testimony, but I just
feel like people. Discount that so heavily that it
has to be like, well, I can't read the scriptures right now
because I'm not doing this and this and this or I can't do this
right now because I'm not perfect in every way.
Like, you're going to waste a lot of time.
You're never going to get there. Not like that, you know?
You just gotta God. Loves us.
No matter what, I always try and tell people like think of your
kids or think of something that you love if you don't have kids,
like an animal or anything, how much you have love for your
parent or whatever. And times that by Infinity, like
it's that much and you're that important.
So like, do you really think that you are nothing, You know,
we're just nothing here. I don't believe that, you know.
Yeah, I do. I.
Do well, I think that's me. I think that's a good.
Place to end. It for tonight.
I don't know. You got it.
Probably go for two or three more hours.
Yeah. I'm a chatter girl.
Yeah, but if we if. We do everything all at once.
I can't have you back on again, so there you go.
So we'll break. This up in like. 3/1 and 1/2
hour segments or something like that.
There we go. Sounds good to me.
So. Real quick, just I we we covered
a whole bunch. We did.
We went all over the place. We did.
If you could wrap it up in. Maybe a couple sentences or
paragraph and then just kind of give us a perfect elevator pitch
on how to on how to get out. Awesome.
All right. Well.
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I'll talk to you later. Bye.
Bye, bye. I got it.
Alicia, I'll take her out.