1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,680 All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,119 of the How the Hell Did We Wind Up Here podcast. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,960 I'm John the Fed. I am joined this time tonight by 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,600 a Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise podcast. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 If you haven't listened to or listened to some of the ones 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,520 that she's been on, I highly, highly recommend it. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Smart Lady comes from a maybe a different perspective, different 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,320 point of views just based on things in her life and you know, 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,920 work and religion and everything else. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,120 So gives you a lot to think about. 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,440 So Heidi, thank you and go and interview everybody. 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Say hi and we'll get. Going Thank you so much for 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,560 having me on I. I. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Am definitely feel like I've lived about 5 lives. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,120 So I I decided hey, why not try and help some people, right? 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,440 That's that's what I do in general because. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:58,960 I'm a nurse and so I'm a nurse. I'm a mom of 6, and actually I 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,160 am a grandma of 1 1/2. One's in the oven. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,520 And so we've got all that going on. 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,640 And then I am an ex Mormon, which is what I'm most known 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,680 for. So I speak everything disclaimer 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,480 for anything we get into tonight. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Mormonism, a lot of people. I still really love her in 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Mormonism. And it's not the people. 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,240 It's just like the government. You get up so high and absolute 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,360 power corrupts absolutely. And it's the same thing for any 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,880 church, not just. And you're still living in Utah, 28 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,880 right? So you're living in the land of. 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Everybody that I do. Do a podcast with this. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Like, what? Do you want me to put this out? 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,920 I'm like, yeah, it's it's OK. And they're like, are you going 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,280 to get, like, killed? I'm like, well, I will say this, 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,120 I've never been suicidal. So if I'm unalived, it was not 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160 me, right? So if I shoot myself in the back 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,680 of the head twice and ended up hanging myself, you know there's 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,440 a there's a problem. So. 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Please, please figure it out. My conspiracy people. 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,360 Exactly. Well, for those of you who are 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,880 new to the show, the premise of this show is pretty simple. 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,920 We all know this world's a messed up place. 41 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,680 We can all identify a bunch of things that are wrong with it. 42 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:20,520 But the community, at least in my opinion, has a history of not 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,680 identifying how we got there. You know, we kind of throw 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,760 around words like Masons or lizard people, which by the way, 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,320 she was just on a podcast talking about lizard people. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,240 But it's definitely worth the listen. 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,080 But you know, we throw around keywords, but we never talked 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,160 about kind of what led up to it, even the fact that we might be 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,200 culpable in it as well. So that's what this is about. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,200 That's what we're going to get into. 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Heidi's going to kind of tell us her her version of where she 52 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:52,920 thinks the world's gone, gone mad, how it got there, maybe 53 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,280 talk a little bit about how we can get out of it as well. 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,160 So Heidi, it's it's yours. Awesome. 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,440 All right. Well, a lot of times when I come 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,120 on these shows, they want to know a little basic about 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Mormonism and I'm not sure if you want to do that or if we go 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,600 down this road, this is, this is your happy. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Either way, I've handed over to you, so you do you. 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,560 So I was a Mormon in that I was born into the church. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,880 I was a Mormon for 30-4 years and I've lived in Utah a good 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,720 majority of my life. I definitely have had a lot of 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,840 struggles in my life and I've dealt with a lot of things that 64 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:34,800 I would say are pretty horrific but also I never gave up and I 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,840 feel like that kind of grit is missing and and nowadays like I 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,520 feel like, I feel like the backbone of the grandpas and the 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,320 grandmas are it's a lot different than now you know 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,200 grandpas and grandmas, it's changed. 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,200 There's a big flop and. I don't know that it's good. 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,960 The self centeredness of people has really gotten it. 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,360 It it's amazing. Like people estranged from their 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,640 parents, they don't care. They're living their best life, 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,720 they're out doing their own stuff, like and same thing with 74 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,040 religion. I feel like it's all over the 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,480 place, like everything feels really. 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,200 I don't know about you, but I feel less certain about this 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,400 world than I've ever felt. It depends on how you look at 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,600 it. Because I've always been certain 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,520 this world was evil, and now I'm even more. 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,840 Now I'm even more certain. So, you know, there's certain 81 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,400 things. There's there's things I'm very 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,560 much certain about, but, you know, just kind of how things 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 are going to play out. And, you know, you talked about 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,440 you've got six kids, you got 1 1/2 grandkids. 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 I've got two kids as well. You know, I've got nieces. 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,840 I've got nephews I've got, and they're they're younger than my 87 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:48,320 kids. Some of them are actually really 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,400 young. And it's, you know, you look 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,000 around, you're like, what is this world going to look like 90 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,360 when you're my age? Yeah, because what are we 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,840 leaving you? Grandma and grandpa now I feel 92 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:01,320 like like I don't know about you, but the majority of my my 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,640 youth when I went when OK. 1st. Well, we'll just give this 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,600 promise. My first 12 years were pretty 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,040 bad. In fact, the state stepped in 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,000 and took me away from my mom. So, like, that didn't happen 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 back in the 80s and 90s. That wasn't a thing. 98 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,200 And so for that to happen to a mother, it was. 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,280 It was rough. And so we dealt with a lot of 100 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,720 mental illness. We dealt with abuse from my 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,120 stepdad. It was just. 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,400 It was it. Was pretty horrific and so we. 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:40,240 We had this horrible situation, but after 12, I lived with my 104 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,800 grandma, and my grandma wasn't old because she had four kids 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,880 before she was 19, so she had her first one at 14. 106 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,240 And so it's not like she probably could have just been my 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 mom, mom age, you know, normal mom age. 108 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:00,560 And so, but everything we would do would circle around family 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,040 like OK. We're going to great grandma's 110 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,800 today, we're doing this with Aunt so and so today we're going 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,840 to have a big dinner with all these people for birthdays or 112 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,120 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now I don't think that's the 113 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,640 same thing anymore. I feel like people. 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Are busy and they don't like that grandmas now don't even 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,800 look like grandmas. I mean, I know I don't like one, 116 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,920 but it's just it's. Like. 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,240 They're busy and they don't want to be, you know, bothered with 118 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,560 that or have that family. Stuff and I'm really family 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,280 oriented. So that that's big for me. 120 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,440 I think it's partly that. But I think too, you know, 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,960 anytime I go to go to the grocery store now, anytime I go 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,600 to the hardware store, anytime I go to Walmart, anytime I go to 123 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,840 the feed store, there's people who are grandma. 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,080 My grandparents age when I was when I was younger, you know, 125 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,400 there there, There are men and women there now who have to work 126 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,520 at 60. At 70, they don't have the, I 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 don't even say the luxury, but they they've never been given 128 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:04,120 the opportunity to to be able to to work it, you know, to stay 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 home as well. And be grandma. 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Yeah, yeah, just be. And I feel bad because I feel 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,440 like it's so critical for kids because and Eddie Murphy used to 132 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,880 do a funny skit about Grandma's house, Big mama's house. 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,320 And he's like, you know, she was like, more stern and like. 134 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 She'd be like, you better switch that light off, you know, stuff 135 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,600 like that, funny stuff. But also, she'd have, like, the 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,520 best goodies. And yeah, well, you know, my 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,440 love for my love for cooking and my love for baking comes from my 138 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,920 grandma. It doesn't come from my mom. 139 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,760 It comes from, you know, my mom worked, you know, my parents got 140 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,560 divorced when I was, when I was young, fairly young. 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,080 And so my mom had to work and all that. 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,960 So after school, summers, whatever I was with my 143 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,640 grandparents. Yeah, and it was kind of a 144 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,160 normal thing. That's not like a. 145 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,000 It wasn't abnormal for a lot of kids. 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 They they were with their grandparents or their aunt or 147 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,320 whoever. And so I feel like that 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,880 camaraderie and that family unit is really missing. 149 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,680 And then so I have a daughter that I'm estranged from, not by 150 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,640 my my decision at all. And she has the baby that is my 151 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,400 grandbaby, which I've never seen. 152 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,960 I've never seen her. I mean, I've seen a picture of 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,000 her, but her husband just. He didn't like us. 154 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,200 He met us three times, judged us solely on like what he could put 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 together in three meetings, one of which was a quick breakfast 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,720 and called it good and you know, deemed that we weren't worthy 157 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,159 and took her and moved far away. They live clear across the 158 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:41,480 country, so I feel like it's it's more and more common. 159 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Because I'm in an estrangement group, that this happens because 160 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,680 they want to build their own family. 161 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:48,080 They want to do their own things. 162 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,240 They're not concerned about my feelings. 163 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,680 They don't care, you know, if it hurts me, not just me, OK. 164 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:56,920 If I'm the demon that they say I am, great. 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,800 OK. So if it's true and it's just 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,200 me, that's one thing. But it was everyone. 167 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 She like, never came back here ever again. 168 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,720 It's been four years, you know, So I mean. 169 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,720 I just feel like now people are making these nuclear families 170 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,240 that are really small, like these little tiny and and it's 171 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,360 all a part in my opinion, the reason why I bring this up is 172 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,040 it's a part of the destruction of the family units so that we 173 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,120 don't have the strength in numbers anymore. 174 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,960 It's the same thing they've always done, trying to remove 175 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,040 males from the home, trying to you know break up families, all 176 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,680 all of it. I've never thought of it like 177 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,360 this before. But what you're saying kind of 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,160 rings true, you know, and the the again, the premise of this, 179 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,760 this whole podcast is how did we get to this point, you know, and 180 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:51,960 you can look back of, you know, 1970s, sixties, 50s, you know, 181 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 there was not a the technology that we had from the 80s going 182 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,800 forward. So you know, family time, game 183 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720 time was you got around, you played cards, you played 184 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Monopoly, you played Go fish, you played, you know, whatever 185 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,640 as a family. Make a pie together. 186 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Bake a cake together. As soon as they started 187 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,080 introducing video games, guess what happens? 188 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Little Johnny and little Sally go to their room and they can be 189 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,680 all by themselves. And then cable. 190 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 You know the TV. Mom and dad are watching that. 191 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,840 And so the the separation was just, you know, people look at 192 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,000 me cross eyed when I say it's been planned for a long time and 193 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:27,160 you're. Not wrong. 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 OK, in the 80, I got a Nintendo when it first came out, and 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,480 guess what? I did as much as I could, I was 196 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,920 in my room. But now it's Mom, Dad, Grandma, 197 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,680 grandpa, little Jimmy, little Sally, whoever they're they're 198 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,880 on their phones, as you know, their phone. 199 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Everybody in the house is an individual. 200 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Instead of like you were saying, it's a it's not a family unit 201 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,520 anymore. Well, and what? 202 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Sorry, my asthma is really bad today. 203 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,280 And what? What do they push? 204 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,880 What do they push in society? Yolo. 205 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,480 Like. Live your best. 206 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Life. It's all. 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,840 About you do. You Boo Boo. 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Like all. This stuff is like very me, 209 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,280 centered. And if you go back to Aleister 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,840 Crowley, what does he say in that in the end age? 211 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,160 We will all be superstars in our own right. 212 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,560 We will all be our own star. And so the social media has made 213 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:28,040 it that way where, OK, I'm I'm, it's all about me. 214 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Look at me. This is about me. 215 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,200 This isn't about, you know, anybody else. 216 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,240 And so I feel like that's so played into the breakdown of 217 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:44,120 society because no longer are we concerned about, you know, even 218 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,000 even doors like. I I teach my kids as a nurse. 219 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Like, hey, if you see an older person, I don't care, male or 220 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,760 female. You. 221 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Hold the door. You know, you you help them if 222 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,080 you see they need help. And I yeah. 223 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,040 And my son is good about it, but I have a couple of the younger 224 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,080 kids. Because we have a blended family 225 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 that used to not. It wasn't out of spite. 226 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,800 It was literally not taught. And they would, like, shut the 227 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,960 door and like one time it was on a lady with a Walker and I'm 228 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,720 like, hey. You. 229 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Can't do that, you know. But to them it wasn't, it wasn't 230 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,200 mean, none of that. It was literally a non thought 231 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,680 process, like it didn't connect. And so they want us to be that 232 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,640 way, Because why if we band together? 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Then they're in trouble because they want us at at odds at all 234 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,880 times. They want us black, white, male, 235 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,320 female, you know, whatever it is it it it's always a a thing 236 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 everybody 's taught. It's taught from such an early 237 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 age too. You know, I and I, I realized 238 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,720 this, I don't know, not too long ago. 239 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,840 And I I told a few people this, that it and it all it seems to 240 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,280 boil down to red and blue. You know, you're red and blue, 241 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,920 Democrat, Republican, red and blue, Coke or Pepsi. 242 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,440 You know, there's all of these, there's all of these things that 243 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,720 that separate even. Even, you know, if you, if 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,960 you're a fan of football, the Pro Bowl, when they wear their 245 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,680 jerseys, their AFC is red. NFC is blue, you know, and it's 246 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,800 it there. It's always red against blue. 247 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,840 And it's it just primes you to for when you turn 18, you've got 248 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,680 to make a decision. Are you red or are you blue? 249 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Well, and it's such a delusion, because here's the funniest part 250 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,880 is we're all just in a play because they're selected, not 251 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,960 elected. Anybody that makes it. 252 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,800 And I don't care who they are. You can think They're the best 253 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,840 person ever. You can think, Trump's your 254 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,080 savior. You can think. 255 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,960 And and I'm not happy with Biden's presidency has sucked. 256 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,400 OK, but here's the thing. Is it by design? 257 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:58,120 Because then they'll be a great savior. 258 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Is this on purpose? Like we have to step back and 259 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,520 say, OK, this is this is on. This was purposeful. 260 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,760 This was a decision made a long time before this occurred. 261 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,040 And if anybody's at the top echelon now, I'm not talking 262 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,160 about your sheriff, local or mayor. 263 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Maybe you know somebody that's great, that's fine. 264 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,840 But you don't understand once it gets to politic level. 265 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,960 There has been. There is either blackmail, 266 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,000 there's leverages, there's money, there's connections. 267 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 I don't care. Who You. 268 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,480 You. Are like it's just the way it 269 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,400 is, you know. The thing is, is if if we know 270 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,360 the names and we know you know whoever it is involved, then 271 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,840 then they're not the ones doing it. 272 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,000 They're just. Oh, 100%. 273 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 They're just the pawns. They're the pawns in the game. 274 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,600 You know they're the ones who are who are like who are 275 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 they're. They're the controlled not even 276 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,560 opposition. They're just being controlled 277 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,520 by. They're just. 278 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,120 The scapegoat, they're just, and that's the thing. 279 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,080 You know the names, like you know the Rockefellers and the 280 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,960 and the Morgans and the Chases, Granted, they've they've done 281 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,040 some some pretty heinous things, but you know what? 282 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,920 We know their names, so they're not really the ones making those 283 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,400 decisions. Well, because my grandpa and so 284 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,480 my family was pretty colorful, even the good ones that took me. 285 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,360 So my grandpa was A1 Percenter and my uncle is a sundowner. 286 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,680 So this is like you want to explain those real quick for 287 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,080 the. Those so very similar to Hells 288 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Angels, One Percenters actually are are I I think one of the 289 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,520 most violent back in the day. I don't even know if they're 290 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,880 still around, but. And then Sundowners is basically 291 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 almost identical to Hell's Angels out here. 292 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,600 There's more of them than the Hell's Angels. 293 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,760 So my grandpa would always tell to me, like you, if you do know 294 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,240 somebody's name behind something, then they're the. 295 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Punk. Like, nobody knows with the mob. 296 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Like, yeah, if they're throwing out the mob, the mob bosses 297 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,160 name, they're not the boss of anything because real. 298 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Players, real bosses, real gangsters. 299 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,240 He used to be like you would never know who they are because 300 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,520 everything is done to protect them and and you wouldn't even 301 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,440 nobody knows because he used to tell me you know how to keep a 302 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,240 secret between two people, right? 303 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Do you know make sure one of them isn't alive. 304 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Yeah, kill the other one, Yeah, I used to say. 305 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,080 That, and I mean he was kidding, I hope. 306 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 I hope so. There's a lot of truth behind 307 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,040 it, though. I know. 308 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 I'm like, just ask the Clinton's friends. 309 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Yeah, well. Or the laptop? 310 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,760 The laptop. Friends. 311 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,000 But like all of this stuff goes back to, you know, you have to 312 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,360 go back and remember that everything they're doing for you 313 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,040 is a show, and it's all controlled and they manipulate 314 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,119 people so easy. It's like we're little puppets 315 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,880 on a string. And once you cut the string and 316 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,960 understand, and I tell people all the time, and it, it sounds 317 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,359 bad, I guess because I say I'm one step away from an anarchist. 318 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,520 But what I mean by that isn't that I I love this country. 319 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,319 I'm patriotic to the people that have served. 320 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,200 My whole family's been in the service. 321 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Like, I don't mean those people. I mean at the top level. 322 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,400 Like I don't believe in any of them. 323 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,120 And I think they all go have dinner afterward and laugh it 324 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,640 up. And they're like, haha, you 325 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,240 know, oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. And they drink their 326 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,680 adrenochrome smoothies. And I think I agree. 327 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,160 You know, I'll tell people too that I'm, I'm gonna, I'll, I'll 328 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,720 claim to be an anarchist. But my version of anarchy is 329 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,440 just just leave me alone, You know, let me, let me, let me 330 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,400 find my own community. And that's what I. 331 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,520 And that's why I told people it really needs to get back to is 332 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,120 there just seems to be different communities. 333 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,880 And if your values don't line up with our community's values, I 334 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,000 guarantee you there's another community down the way. 335 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,720 They have the same values that you do, you know. 336 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,400 So if you want to live in a in a dry community where there's no 337 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,120 booze and whatever else, and that's not going to be my 338 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,840 community, but it will there. I'm sure there's one. 339 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,640 You know, down the road there's probably a bunch in Utah so 340 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,520 well. You can find anything and 341 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,840 anything. I mean, you can. 342 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,720 You can go find some furries to live with if you really want to, 343 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,960 you know, I mean, and it's true in the winter time. 344 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,000 Right when it's. Cold and I'm like, this is so 345 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,440 funny that people will fight to the death or divide families or 346 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,080 argue about things that are so hysterically ridiculous. 347 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,160 I'm like, you do know that they're going to have dinner 348 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,440 later together. You do know that they run in the 349 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,480 same circles like you do know most of them are related. 350 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Like the if you get down the heritage lines, like Madonna's 351 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,320 related to Obama, you know, I mean well and you know all the 352 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,880 all the, all the president. And this is pretty common 353 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,280 knowledge. I think everybody knows what I'm 354 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,840 going to say just in case there's one who doesn't. 355 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,880 But all the presidents are related to some king from 356 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,960 England and like the 14,000,000. Well, because they have the 357 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,640 divine right to rule. Exactly so. 358 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,400 And they don't make mistakes, I mean. 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,440 This is something that we have no control over. 360 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,000 And I'm not trying to I guess we're coming off kind of black 361 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,640 pill. But here's the problem is too 362 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,480 many people put their faith in a man. 363 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,040 And and here's. Herein lies the issue in the 364 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Bible. What does it say? 365 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,680 Every man is a liar. I don't think that means that 366 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,520 literally every man is a liar all the time. 367 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,800 It means that men can be deceivers of people, even if 368 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,600 they have the best intentions sometimes. 369 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,840 They start things with every wholesome intent and get LED 370 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:53,680 astray by women or by, you know. Drugs or by money or by and and 371 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,640 I I say men right now, but it could be vice versa. 372 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,360 Like I'm not saying men or women. 373 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,760 And I always look at King David like God loved him very much. 374 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 He called in his beloved. And how many times did he just 375 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,280 keep screwing up over and over? You look at Hebrews has the roll 376 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,880 call of faith and you look at all the everybody who's in 377 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,560 there, you know, whether you believe they're real or not, 378 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,680 they're like it's they they were worse. 379 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,520 They were more worse than they were good in in a lot of ways, 380 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,720 so. Yeah, Yep. 381 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 And. And you just step back and go. 382 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,840 There's nothing new under the sun. 383 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,600 This has been going on for a long time. 384 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,480 So. So take a breath. 385 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,200 Don't split up your family over it. 386 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,120 Here's some good advice. You know, step away from it as 387 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:46,520 if it were not the most important thing, because you 388 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,800 have no control. We can only control our life. 389 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Like you said, I just want to be left alone. 390 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,640 OK, here's the thing. We have to make our own 391 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 communities. Like you said, we have to make 392 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 our own people. Like you said, we have to find 393 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,120 our own tribe and say, OK, this is my people. 394 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:09,200 And sometimes you may not 100% agree with another tribe, but 395 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,320 later if they have similar values, we may all be called to 396 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,080 be together, which I truly believe. 397 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,680 So we have to be kind. And that has gone out the 398 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,200 window. Kindness and grace has gone out 399 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840 the window. Like there people look for any 400 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,600 little like, oh, my mom is a narcissist. 401 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,560 She's just a terrible person. Write her off. 402 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Like maybe your mom had a lot of pain and like, my mom, OK, we'll 403 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,120 use her as an example. My mom didn't protect me. 404 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,880 Could she protect me up against an abusive guy that was almost 405 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,200 killing her, almost killed her? Multiple times while she's 406 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,080 having mental breakdowns and all these problems, did she have the 407 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,800 capability to do to do anything for me? 408 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,320 No. But is it her fault? 409 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,840 No, it it it's the circumstance that was now people say she 410 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,400 could just leave, she didn't have anywhere to go and she was 411 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,840 in a state all alone with no family. 412 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,080 And we did the whole women's shelter multiple times and 413 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,320 eventually she did get out. But here's the problem. 414 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,600 People. People put that guilt on to 415 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,440 people. And then what does my mom do for 416 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,440 her whole life? She. 417 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,400 She's still. To this day is like, and I'm so 418 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,880 sorry. And I'm like mom, if I have 419 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,360 enough grace in my heart to say it's OK once that that's all, 420 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,440 because I hope Jesus does that for me. 421 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Yeah, you know, yeah, my mom wasn't, you know, my mom was the 422 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720 same way my dad was a piece of work. 423 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 And we'll we'll just leave it at that, you know, And she, she had 424 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,360 every opportunity to leave. But you know, you when 425 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:46,160 somebody's psyche breaks, you know, it's like it's they're not 426 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 making, they're not making rational decisions, right? 427 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,280 No. And it's. 428 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,640 You know, she's living in fear. Yeah, she's living in fear, I 429 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,920 think. You know, I'm not saying my mom 430 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,000 thought this, but you know, you hear lots of women who just 431 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,880 think they deserve it or it's just. 432 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,640 Or. Or she doesn't think she can do 433 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,640 it on her own. Or she's scared or and she has 434 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320 kids to think of. And So what whoever everybody 435 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,960 says, OK, you got to put your kids first. 436 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,840 So then. Then you have this guilt too. 437 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Like, oh, if I leave, then my life won't be as good and my 438 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,920 children will have more problems, like. 439 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,200 So ultimately we can't be in their mind for those choices. 440 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,240 And we have to remember like a A therapist once told me this and 441 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,480 it was so helpful to me because I was angry at that time with 442 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,960 her. And he said your mom was like a 443 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,200 little Chihuahua and your stepdad was like a big giant pit 444 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560 bull. And even if she tried. 445 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,440 With all her Chihuahua might, she's not going to take down a 446 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,440 pickle. It's just not going to happen. 447 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,440 And so she did what she could here and there, but she had to 448 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,360 fight like different because she knew by being submissive. 449 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,840 Just like, what does a dog do that's small? 450 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,040 It'll lay down and show its neck. 451 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,920 It's a sign of submission. Why do they do that? 452 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,640 So that it shows there's no threat. 453 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,480 I think a lot of times whoever's being abused, men or women. 454 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Get into that situation and that's how they react because. 455 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,320 They feel like they. Literally have no other choice. 456 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,840 You know so so and we're the collateral damage. 457 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,440 Like, I'm sure you weren't meant to be. 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520 That I wasn't. To do that. 459 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,440 But you know, I've always, I've always looked at it as if me 460 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,400 going through it kept somebody else from going through it then 461 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,320 I'm I'm OK with that. You know. 462 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,440 I know how I've turned out. You know, and I I I made it 463 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 through on the other side where there's a lot of people who 464 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,800 don't. So and everybody that goes 465 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:45,520 through great suffering, it changes you if it's physical, 466 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,640 mental abuse or just like sickness, whatever it is. 467 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,000 That for me was a. Big. 468 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Huge thing for my awakening because it it changed my whole 469 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,840 makeup of my brain. I don't feel like I'm the same 470 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,080 at all. I think that's the, I think that 471 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 was one of the whole things for 2020 as well. 472 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,920 That's when it happened because you know people, there's there's 473 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,400 a shift in in people's makeup, you know, like you like you kind 474 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,840 of what started this whole conversation. 475 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,160 You know people were more angry. They didn't put up with stuff 476 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,840 they didn't you know they only were thinking about themselves 477 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,480 and it's it's still continued and it's I'm, I'm guessing I 478 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,960 haven't studied the brain. I haven't studied a whole bunch 479 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,800 of electricity like our electoral stuff. 480 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,680 But when something like that shifts, I'm assuming it's 481 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,960 probably easier for a lot of other natural things to change 482 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 inside you as well. Absolutely, because if you're 483 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,240 feeling if you are living, OK. So they did an experiment far 484 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,800 before 2020. Where they made people this was 485 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,920 like either the, I think it was the CIA where they made people 486 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,960 afraid for a certain amount of time and they told them a lie 487 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,320 and then after this certain amount of time, I think it was 488 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,440 90 days was all they said. OK, we're just kidding, Like. 489 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Say the sky is purple and then they come back and say now the 490 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 sky is actually blue. They will never change their way 491 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,920 of thinking. They will always think the sky 492 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600 is purple, even though the person that lied to them, told 493 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,520 them, showed them, got proof, took out a chart and said look 494 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,400 at this blah blah blah. It will never change it because 495 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,680 that decision was implanted with fear. 496 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,880 And that was what that was about. 497 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,640 Well, it was, it was a lot of things, but that was part of 498 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,200 what that was about and so. I think that they wanted to see 499 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440 how well that would really work on a mass scale. 500 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160 Like, will this really work? Yeah. 501 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,440 And will they really follow us? And the majority of them did. 502 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Oh. My community was a the LDS 503 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,240 community came out, their president of their church, came 504 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,600 out in their church and told everyone to get it and that. 505 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,240 Yes, that they should go and get it, including their children. 506 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,960 And I'm like you, Sir, like I already have issues with that 507 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,000 church. But. 508 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,400 You really just stepped over the line because you don't know 509 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,840 somebody's health or well-being. That should be a private 510 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600 decision that just showed. And their doctor, how much 511 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,560 religion is involved with with a pharmaceutical, you know? 512 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,480 Oh, they own stock. Oh, I know they do. 513 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,840 I know they do. Yeah, that's why we can't get 514 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,960 the medical marijuana bills here without a great deal of sticky 515 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,800 tape. It's extremely expensive and 516 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,640 recreational. It's so against the law. 517 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 And I'm like, this is ridiculous, but that's because 518 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,600 they own a lot of stock in pharmaceuticals, so they want 519 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,520 you on. Whatever else they got, and this 520 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,160 is coming from a nurse. I mean, I've been a nurse for 24 521 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720 years and I I still believe in medical interventions. 522 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840 I'm not saying I have asthma. Like I have to take inhalers. 523 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,320 Like I have certain things that like allergies really bad. 524 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520 If I didn't have certain things, I would, I would die. 525 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,320 I mean, it's just a thing. And so I I get it. 526 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,480 But you have to know. That when it's a chronic thing 527 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,520 and it's it, it may not be the best thing for you. 528 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,640 You need to do your work and you're studying and say, OK, if 529 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,640 it's a chronic liver problem, different, different talk we're 530 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,720 going to have. But if you're on chronic mood 531 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,920 medication, maybe there's other ways to get better. 532 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,640 You know, exercise releases amazing amounts of endorphins. 533 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,640 Certain foods do. There's a hundred other things 534 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120 that can help you that they don't want to. 535 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,440 There's so many more natural things that are out there as 536 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,080 well. You know, I I tell this that 537 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,160 anytime I get a chance, 'cause I've I've let's see, it's 538 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,520 probably COVID was what, three years ago? 539 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,440 So this is probably 4-4 or five years ago. 540 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,480 My youngest got a huge rash on his leg and no clue what what 541 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520 caused it, where it came from. Popped up just all of a sudden 542 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440 and it's late at night and I think it's on like a Saturday or 543 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Sunday. I'm like, I don't want to go 544 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320 bar. This is going to cost like 350. 545 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,640 Dollars. Yeah. 546 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,360 And so I texted my buddy and I was like, oh, no, no, no. 547 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,400 I got online. I was like, I'm going to find a 548 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,400 natural remedy to cure this. I'm going to find something And 549 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320 I'll tell anybody who listens be I'm like it sounds weird but the 550 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,200 the remedy was get a potato, blend it up, put it over the 551 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,320 rash, wrap it in Saran wrap, have him sleep in it and in the 552 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640 morning the rash will be done, the rash will be gone. 553 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,800 He's gone. And ever since then I've been 554 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320 like this is there is something out there about being able to 555 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880 heal yourself with with nature you. 556 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Know Yes. I knew about oatmeal, but I 557 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760 haven't heard the potato, that one. 558 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,760 He screamed Like a like a like a he screamed and well, it's 559 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,440 because all the starch and the potato. 560 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Was going. It's gone. 561 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,280 By the next morning he woke up and it was gone. 562 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,400 I'm like, you know what? Anytime I can from now on, I'm 563 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560 going to go with kind of humid, natural pieces. 564 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,560 Well. And there's, yeah, some things 565 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,320 you can't, but like there's manuka, Manuka. 566 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880 All my kids get strep throat. I'm going to go to the doctor 567 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400 and get, you know, bubble gum flavored medicine. 568 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Right, Because it's going to take it away because I, my kids 569 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,600 aren't going to be in pain, Sort of. 570 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Thing, you know? So it's just you know? 571 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,640 You got to weigh it depending on what you're dealing with and 572 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,800 even I mean, some people like, I've seen things even as weird 573 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,680 as like sun gazing for eyesight and different stuff. 574 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,520 And I mean, I'm not sit telling anybody to just go Willy nilly 575 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,080 do that. You better do your research. 576 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,400 But I'm just saying there are other things out there. 577 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,840 That they do not promote on purpose because they they want 578 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,160 you addicted to the system. Are you familiar with he? 579 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,800 He was a doctor. There's two doctors. 580 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,920 One, the last name is Biggleson. Harvey Harvey Biggleson. 581 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Henry Biggleson. And there's another one by the 582 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,760 name of I can't remember. They're both big terrain theory 583 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,600 guys and they both have proven through years and years and 584 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,280 years of different kinds of cancer can be cured by the color 585 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,120 of the food that you eat. Well, like this cancer, you need 586 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,280 to eat orange foods because you're you're, you know, this 587 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,960 cancer is because you're lacking whatever certain nutrients, 588 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,600 whatever nutrients are more in orange things or this kind of 589 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640 can and they've got proof and dot, you know? 590 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Wow. And everything. 591 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,840 And then the American health establishment, basically, you 592 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560 know, they took away their license, did everything. 593 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,440 So they in and across the border down to Mexico, and they did a 594 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 bunch of stuff down there, healed a bunch of people and 595 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,080 it's wow. Yeah. 596 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760 And we have to put this little disclaimer that this is just 597 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,040 discussion. Because. 598 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320 We already know this is a. This is a fun discussion that 599 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,720 we're having. And we're not saying that you 600 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,360 shouldn't go to the doctor for cancer. 601 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,720 But see, it's actually obscene that I have to do that. 602 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,400 It's actually obscene that we have to say that because if, and 603 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,680 here's my big thing with with the thing from 2020, the cure, 604 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,320 OK, when in your lifetime have you ever been intervened on by 605 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760 the government for your benefit and your health? 606 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,040 When has the government ever stepped in and paid for insulin 607 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240 for people? When has the government ever 608 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,680 stepped in and paid for life saving chemotherapy that they 609 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,800 say, OK, right, Epipens. Epipens, yeah, I have, I have to 610 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,480 do Epipens. They're horribly expensive. 611 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,400 And so when why don't they come to me as a asthmatic that needs 612 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,480 these Epipens and say, oh, well, here's this for free because you 613 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,160 need it. They never. 614 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,040 Have before and they never have a get. 615 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640 So that should tell people something. 616 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200 And that's the part that I think is hilarious that people can't 617 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,600 see, oh, that this, oh, the government loves me and cares 618 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,840 about me and wants me safe. Like, oh, do they? 619 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,880 That's what I tell. That's So what got me really 620 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,080 started into this community was I got introduced to Flat Earth 621 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,320 and it automatically made sense, you know, and I started, I got 622 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,080 really excited about it. And for the record, I'm not a 623 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,520 Flat Earther anymore. I'm AI don't know what we're on 624 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Earther. I am that as well. 625 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,120 I do think there is a rounded firmament because of rainbows, 626 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,400 but other than that I give it more of almost like a kind of 627 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,560 like a golf ball aspect. You know, like we're in one 628 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,120 little divot and then there's a wall, there's another little 629 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,560 divot, and then then there's another little divot and that's 630 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,120 where all the extra come from is from. 631 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120 Anyway. Anyways, so I got introduced. 632 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,719 It made a lot of sense, started really trying to tell people oh 633 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,800 you should, and just vehement reactions to. 634 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,960 It oh, people think you're just loony. 635 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,120 Yeah. And so that's what I ended up 636 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,480 started having to ask him like, OK, can you tell me the 637 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,840 government has your best interest at heart 100% of the 638 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,400 time? You can say yes. 639 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,920 Then we don't need to pursue this anymore. 640 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,159 No, if you if you can't tell me that then let's let's let's 641 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,639 think a little bit so. Let's have a discussion. 642 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,840 And then when they say, Oh well, what, what proof do you have 643 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,320 that it's flat? And then you're like, well, OK, 644 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480 here's this and this and this and blah blah blah blah. 645 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Because I I've done a show with Josh Monday on this and he's 646 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,719 really knowledgeable. So I'm like, OK, he has all this 647 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,280 proof, that's biblical. If you believe in the Bible, 648 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,480 there's a lot And so they're like, but we have all this proof 649 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,960 that it's round. I'm like do you or do you have 650 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,040 pictures that were created somewhere? 651 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,440 Just like the Moon landing was created by Stanley Kubrick, so 652 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,440 they are, they are basically just, well, it's too big of a 653 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,280 lie. And it's just the thing of 654 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,120 vaccines. It's too big of a lie. 655 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,560 No. Yeah, you know, it it like the 656 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,160 whole moon landing thing that was. 657 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,480 That was hard for me to swallow because my grandpa worked for 658 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,480 NASA. You know, he was. 659 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880 He was. One of the he was fairly high up 660 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,720 working for them. He was, you know, And so at 661 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,040 first I had to wrap my mind around that. 662 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 But I was like, no, he still he was just doing his job like he. 663 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840 Well, and he, he probably didn't know. 664 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,320 Yeah, he didn't. You know, he's doing his 665 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,880 section. You have to remember that 666 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,520 everything they have, all the knowledge that they have, like 667 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,960 they dissect it. Why do they have cars built 668 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,760 like? The bumper is a send out to this 669 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,800 place and the engine parts are here and here and this is there 670 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400 and blah blah blah. They don't ever want you to just 671 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,200 know how to build a car, right? Or just know altogether like 672 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,240 this guy is going to build a car from start to finish. 673 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,800 They don't do that anymore with anything. 674 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520 It's not just cars, it's anything houses. 675 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,280 Houses used to have one or guys who could build you the house 676 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,160 and now you got to sub out this. Where can you sub out this? 677 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,800 Everything, everything. Yep. 678 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Same thing with medical field. It's all what is it now? 679 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,560 It's all professionals that are in their own little specialty. 680 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,240 And I'm like, OK, that's great, But like, also you're missing 681 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:34,120 things because I'm such a well-rounded nurse, because I've 682 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,080 done just almost everything. I've I've gone into different 683 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,200 areas and just it just happened to be that I float and so I will 684 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,640 be here one day and there one day and there one day and there 685 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,320 one day and some people don't like that but I do and so I was 686 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,440 able to learn like this and this and this. 687 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,680 OK, so when I see a patient, I'm thinking critically like, yeah, 688 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,480 but what about this? What about that? 689 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,880 It could be this. It could be that where they 690 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,840 might only think about the one thing they're trained in, like 691 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,080 their heart, you know, and you're going to miss it. 692 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,720 Or what medicine is going to give them a trip next year? 693 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,920 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so allegedly not that. 694 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,360 Not saying that doctors think this way. 695 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,640 No. Allegedly claimer on that too. 696 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,760 There's no kickbacks, but one doctor had a boat with the name 697 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,360 Kickback on it back. Yeah, back with that whole 698 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,560 scandal with Purdue. So anyways, you know these 699 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,800 things. They've made movies about them, 700 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,840 like the you can go watch the show on Netflix right now. 701 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,080 I what's it called about the Purdue scandal? 702 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,200 And I can't remember right now, but there's a whole movie about 703 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200 this. Like it's it's like a series, 704 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,560 you know? And I'm like, OK, well, what 705 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,440 happened there? Or what happened with Tuskegee, 706 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,640 or what happened with the Native Americans, or what happened with 707 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,760 OK, so you're telling me the government loves us so much, and 708 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,680 who did this whole disease hit? That was what really struck me 709 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,720 in 2020 when I started studying things. 710 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200 And I I always say I started listening to the last American 711 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Vagabond, Ryan Christian. He's amazing. 712 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,600 He documents everything at the bottom. 713 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,400 And he. He. 714 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 He gives you a link to each study that he went through so 715 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 you can go read it. Well, medical professional, 716 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,160 that's extremely important for me because I can decipher that. 717 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,560 Like, maybe that's not great for just some people that don't know 718 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,760 what all that means. But for me, it was important. 719 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,680 And so I loved it. And so it gave me this wealth of 720 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,200 knowledge. And I'm like, oh, this doesn't, 721 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,320 this doesn't add up. Like this isn't this isn't 722 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,480 working, you know? And so I'm going, why are they 723 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,360 pushing it then? Like, what's happening with 724 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,520 this? I've never seen anything be 725 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,880 pushed through like this. Like what? 726 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,400 What's this? What's that? 727 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,520 And so the more I started studying as a critically 728 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,320 thinking nurse, the more I'm like, Mayday may push the abort 729 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,800 button. You know, where's the abort 730 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,520 button? And they're pushing it through. 731 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,760 And I'm thinking to myself like, no, this can't be happening. 732 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,400 They're really not going to do this are they? 733 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,720 And so when they started making things mandatory and. 734 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,480 I was just shocked and I knew there were going to be a lot of 735 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,680 people affected because a lot of people I know would have lost 736 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,480 their jobs. I would have lost my job. 737 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,520 The the one thing that saved me is my little irritant tonight is 738 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,560 my asthma is so very bad and I have so many EpiPen allergies 739 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,320 that they were like, you know, I don't think we better she might 740 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,480 die like she might just. And I was never so happy. 741 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120 I was like, yay, and then she's going to come back and yeah. 742 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:42,240 I was like, so I never gave, never gave one, never received 743 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,560 one. Yeah, I heard you say that the 744 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920 other day when I was listening to the to the Drew's show and I 745 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,440 was like, that's amazing. I don't know if I've ever, if 746 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,280 I've, if I've heard anybody, anybody say that. 747 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,440 Partly because most of the nurses I know and people in the 748 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,400 medical field they. Believe, they believe. 749 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960 We got to do it. We got to, we got to do it. 750 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,120 We got to save Grandma. And I'm like, wait a minute, Why 751 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,680 are you worried about that? That the transmission doesn't 752 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,680 even work that way for anything. Other than maybe chicken pox, 753 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,880 you know, like, I mean there's very few things that are that 754 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,680 contagious where you're going to hurt somebody else if you're not 755 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,200 vaccinated, if you have the true disease, you could hurt grandma. 756 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,960 But if you don't have the disease and you're just fine, 757 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,400 you're not. And it made no sense to me. 758 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,440 And then when they started blowing up all the variants, I 759 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,680 was like everything mutates that's that's not new, that this 760 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,760 is not new. That's probably why we can't 761 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,840 cure the flu, right? Yeah. 762 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,440 Or or figure out or figure out which flu shot to give every 763 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,320 single year. They just guess, you know? 764 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,360 And so I'm sitting here going, wait a minute, none of this 765 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,000 makes sense. And they're really blowing it 766 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,840 up. They're making it like, like, 767 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,880 this is really important, you know, like this variant, blah, 768 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,040 blah, blah is like, blah, blah. And I'm like, and my mom would 769 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,680 call me and she's like, scared because she has autoimmune 770 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,080 issues. And I'm like, mom, this is 771 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,760 normal, Like that happens. It's OK And she would get 772 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960 scared. I'm like, don't, don't let that 773 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 happen. Well that's that's The thing is 774 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,240 that's what I think the biggest thing was. 775 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,120 And I don't, I don't know if that's what I don't. 776 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,360 I can't believe that's what caused people to be so angry 777 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,600 now. But so many people turn to the 778 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,400 masks. Well, the masks, they they turn 779 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400 to living. They turn to living in fear. 780 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,720 You know, they they they just you know, like my mom, my mom. 781 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,400 My step dad has Fox News on like 30 hours a day. 782 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,320 I know there's only 24 hours a day, but somehow he gets an 783 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,760 extra 6 and. It's on all the time. 784 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,720 So she's there listening to it too. 785 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,160 And it just caused she just the strong woman that I knew growing 786 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,440 up was not that once 2020 hit because she just, her whole life 787 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,200 was just fierce. She was. 788 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,600 She's almost agoraphobic now because she just. 789 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,360 We need to go. Outside kind of thing and it's 790 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,360 just there's so many stories and people that are like that of 791 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,600 just like they just shifted something in a well and the the 792 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,720 fear and the shift the shift for the kids has been drastic like 793 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,800 my. Son, I said to my son, he's 794 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040 almost 16. I said, hey, why don't you guys 795 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,160 go out like very much, like in a group, like go to a haunted 796 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,400 house or go to the movies like or go to the mall or like we 797 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680 were always doing something when we were young, right? 798 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,480 And he said. Well, we're on the phone and I 799 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,800 said, well, how do you get a girlfriend or whatever and get 800 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,040 serious? Oh wait, this is what they say 801 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,320 when they kind of like somebody. They're just talking. 802 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,480 They're talking. And I'm like, but what? 803 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,440 Wait, why? Wouldn't you go out? 804 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520 And then he's like, well, why would I go out when I don't know 805 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,960 if I like her enough to go out? I'm like because you might you 806 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,440 don't know and then he would be like, no, that's a waste of my 807 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,480 time and and they stay home. It's so weird. 808 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,920 And now you're like, you're like. 809 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,360 I hope she doesn't date you. I hope she finds stuff. 810 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,480 Yeah. Well, and it's not just him. 811 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680 It's everybody. It's everybody it. 812 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,000 Really. Is so that weird. 813 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,600 That goes back to what we were talking. 814 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,280 About in the beginning of everybody now is it's an 815 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,960 individual. You know, it's I spent the 816 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,120 weekend with my youngest and his best friend. 817 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,120 And they're together, like in person, but they're they're on 818 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,520 their phones. They're on their phones and 819 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,000 they're sending Snapchats. To each other. 820 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,040 They're like 3 feet away. I'm like, what? 821 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,240 What are you guys doing? Sort of. 822 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,440 They're like, stop that. They just kind. 823 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560 Of you know. Even with the young kids that 824 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,240 they I have a daughter that's nine, they'll play and. 825 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,320 They. She has gigantic playhouses for 826 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:56,320 Barbies, but they are on the iPad playing houses of Barbies. 827 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,640 And I'm like, why there's only one iPad and you guys are 828 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,720 fighting over it. And then there's these big 829 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,680 Barbie houses, go play in your room. 830 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,320 And she's like, no, no, it's not the same. 831 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000 I can decorate the walls. I get, I get that. 832 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,440 I get like, that's cool. You can change the color every 5 833 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,920 minutes, but like also like that's. 834 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120 I don't know that that's good. For your brain, you know, I 835 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,160 think it's so. Drew said it. 836 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,200 On I don't remember. He oh, he was on it. 837 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,600 He was. On there's a there's a podcast 838 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,760 out there called are we are we content or are we content 839 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,040 depending on how you how you read that work and it's with 840 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,280 CHUD and and moral Bob or the perpetual skeptics faces faking 841 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,760 gay whatever you know he's calling himself at the time he. 842 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,800 Drew said. That so, like, Heidi, your 843 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,160 generation, my generation maybe, you know, my sister's 844 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,640 generation. They're we're all the 845 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,560 generations that grew up without technology so we know how to put 846 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,720 it down. Our kids generations don't know 847 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,000 how to put it down because they have not grown up without it. 848 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,720 It is. It is in their hands. 849 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000 Even you know the school district that both my boys, well 850 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,280 my my youngest goes to now and both when when my before my 851 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,240 oldest graduated. They're a one to one campus, 852 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:16,680 which means every student in the district got an iPad from the 853 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,200 time. Yeah, yeah. 854 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,080 My kids all have laptops. Yeah. 855 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,800 And so it's. That is just it's being and I 856 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,720 understand why it like it gives, it gives a lot of stuff that 857 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,520 teachers can do. It makes, you know, you don't 858 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,320 have to buy textbooks and all that. 859 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,360 But at the same time, it's just pushing them into a inner 860 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040 corner. They have no clue how they're 861 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,240 going to be able to get out from. 862 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:40,720 Well, it also makes it so that they can change whatever they 863 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,680 want at any time. And that is terrifying. 864 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,080 Like if they don't like that page in the book, like delete, 865 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:52,680 you know, And that's concerning because then at what point I 866 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,920 already feel like we're Mandela all the time. 867 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,360 And then on top of it, you know, you got selective, you know, 868 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,040 deletion and So what? What is really real? 869 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,280 Like sometimes my son will say, I feel like I'm in a video game, 870 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,160 you know, And I'm like, yeah, I I can get it. 871 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,440 Like, yeah, I get. I get. 872 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,040 Why And and he understands because he does other things 873 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,240 which is great because like he'll he this is going to be 874 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,240 funny. He plays hockey, but he also 875 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,160 crochets although. You know what? 876 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,360 Maybe that helps him? Lose hand coordinate. 877 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,240 Hand eye coordinate. Yeah. 878 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,800 And he. Well, 2020 happened and I was 879 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,040 trying to go through the list of crafts to do with board children 880 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,800 and this, he was good at it and he was fast at it. 881 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,920 I was like, wow, we're really good at. 882 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,360 This, you know. And so he likes it and he makes 883 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,320 things all the time like he's made full on shawls, blankets, 884 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,480 everything. So he will put down the phone to 885 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,720 do that. And I'm like so grateful it's 886 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,680 anything. Yes, of course at sports we do 887 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,120 that, but like it gives. Him One more thing at home that 888 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,360 he can do like that you can create and I don't care if it's 889 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,680 even coloring like sometimes to decompress. 890 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,360 I like to color because it's mindless, right? 891 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,760 You don't have to think about it. 892 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,800 And it's not my phone and I can't have my phone if I'm doing 893 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,560 it, you know. So it's kind of a nice 894 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,920 decompression, but it could be anything that requires you know 895 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,320 your full. Attention, but it's just like or 896 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560 your hand. Coordination, at least I guess 897 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,200 it's just I think it's so important for them to get those 898 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,920 brakes to step away. It's just not. 899 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,760 It's not. It's not healthy for them to be 900 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,400 how involved that they are, no. But you know. 901 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,320 Even as even as parents, you know, we probably don't set the 902 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,240 best example because, you know, I love to read and a lot of 903 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,440 times there's books I want to read that come up free on the 904 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,360 Kindle. So what? 905 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,280 What am I doing on my phone or my iPad? 906 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,720 Reading a book You know right and with. 907 00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:59,480 My kids too and. They don't know that. 908 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,880 Probably they just they don't know. 909 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,600 Or they just are they? Just, yeah. 910 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,920 Well, that's the thing, so. A few. 911 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,680 Few episodes ago. My son and two of his friends, 912 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,000 we recorded an episode, all three, you know, all of us 913 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,280 together, they came on, they wanted to talk about social 914 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,800 media and the importance that it plays. 915 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,800 And I came to realize for them though, there's a difference 916 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,280 between being on social media and just looking at it. 917 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440 Just scrolling, just scrolling, scrolling to them is not. 918 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,280 Being on social media, it's just. 919 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,720 It's it's like me when I was a kid going through my baseball 920 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,480 cards or reading. Yeah, it's mindless, mindless. 921 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,800 And they're just scrolling, scrolling. 922 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,960 Scrolling if they're if they're on social media, then that means 923 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,240 they're taking Snapchat, sending them out. 924 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,920 You know Twitter, they're actual. 925 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,720 They're active on it, sort of. I thought that was really 926 00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,760 interesting because I'd never correlated the two of I'm like, 927 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,080 why are you always on social media? 928 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,560 I'm not on social media. No, I'm just scrolling on 929 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,480 TikTok. I'm. 930 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,280 I'm not. I'm not on it. 931 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,120 Yeah, on it. I'm just interacting. 932 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,120 With or I'm just that makes sense. 933 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,200 It does, and it was so interesting because I. 934 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,000 Never looked at it that way before. 935 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,080 Well, and it's a instant dopamine release. 936 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,720 And people don't understand fully. 937 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,360 Like, they did this because they had the knowledge to do this. 938 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,120 This was not a mistake. This was. 939 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,520 And also that whole story about how it was founded, like face as 940 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,480 bull crap. It was all done by DARPA like, 941 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,560 come on, you know, and it was handed down to certain people to 942 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,120 develop it, period. Like it's just. 943 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,880 The way it is and so and if you trace the family bloodlines back 944 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,240 on all of the people that run, all of the things you know, 945 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,280 you'll find all of your answers. So it's just it's amazing to me 946 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,320 that they push like this dopamine hit and then like if 947 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,720 you if you get away from it, how do you feel? 948 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,480 Inside. If you didn't get some likes 949 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,680 today, how do you feel inside if you're not getting, you know, 950 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,520 reaffirmed and they're constantly being reaffirmed? 951 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,240 Well, even even. Something even more simple is, 952 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,080 you know, I'm I always am feeling my phone vibrate in my 953 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,320 pocket when it's not vibrating. Like I could, I could. 954 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,160 For some reason it feels like it's vibrating. 955 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,840 And I put my head back, I'm like, OK, nothing. 956 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,320 Just. Happened. 957 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,160 Why did it? Feel it was vibrating, you know? 958 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,400 And it's a simple they go through the same thing as well. 959 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,280 Or they hear a phone vibrate and they got a check. 960 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,160 Because what if it was my phone? Yep, what if? 961 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,800 And there's even a new app that's out. 962 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,520 Well, I'm sure it's not new, but I've only found out about it 963 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,400 where they'll send out a just. Like a picture to. 964 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,480 To their group of friends or whatever, Their friends only 965 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,680 have 5 minutes to to like it, to ask consent. 966 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,520 Yeah, so after 5 minutes it's gone, whether they looked at it 967 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,800 or not. So that's all. 968 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,200 That's another thing that's put just pushing them. 969 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,000 Pushing the time frame like always being on your phone. 970 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,760 Always. On, that's why I'm. 971 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,000 Always so grateful. I live in an area that has 972 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,960 mountains. We've always camped, we've 973 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,920 always gone and done things. And I'll tell you, a couple 974 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,960 years ago we went and they started doing more like Wi-Fi at 975 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,960 these places. And I was not happy because they 976 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,800 were just sitting there around the campfire on TikTok and I'm 977 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,800 like, put your phone away. We talk. 978 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,200 We we normally talk. And you know, my son came home 979 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,880 from that particular camp, camp time and he said I I didn't like 980 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,440 that I it wasn't fun because we didn't do the funny things we 981 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,600 normally do, like, you know, to engage with each other. 982 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,760 You know, interactions are lost art. 983 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,400 Oh, it's so. And I'm so happy with my 984 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,440 youngest, especially because she has so severe ADHD. 985 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,280 I put her in mainstream school, but then 2020 happened and she 986 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,240 just, she was kindergartner in 2020 and it just wasn't it 987 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:59,120 wasn't good for her. And she doesn't learn anything 988 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,880 or retain anything off a computer. 989 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,000 She doesn't. We've tried and tried and tried 990 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480 and tried. It doesn't matter it it doesn't 991 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,960 go in her brain and and so if you get a book and do it she's a 992 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,480 lot better but they want to do. Everything on the computer. 993 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,720 And so I yanked her out because they were. 994 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,480 I did the medications. It made her really weird. 995 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,880 We tried all the different kinds. 996 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,720 I didn't like it. It made her weird. 997 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,640 It wasn't her. And so maybe that was just my 998 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,920 kid. Other people have a fine 999 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,240 problem. That's great. 1000 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,280 You do what you need to do for your family. 1001 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,120 I'm not for or against, but for my choice, For my child, it was 1002 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,840 not OK And she's a rapid metabolizer, so it will wear off 1003 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,760 by 2:00 PM And she would have this huge crash and become like, 1004 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,720 literally, I'm like, she's a gargoyle in the corner. 1005 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,680 It was horrible. So I'm like, you know, she was 1006 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,760 like Gollum with her tablet. She was like, I'm like, oh, 1007 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,160 you're scaring me. And so I was done with it. 1008 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,520 And so we took her off. And the school was just so hard 1009 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,800 to work with. They were constantly like, she 1010 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,520 was so good when she was. I'm like, OK, I know. 1011 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,560 But like, she wasn't herself either. 1012 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,360 Like, you're minusing the good parts of who she is, and she's 1013 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,960 going to run the world one day. Like, this kid is smart. 1014 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,880 You know, I, I I told her one day. 1015 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,480 I. Said. 1016 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,480 You know what? Aceo is and she's like, no, so I 1017 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520 explained to her. You've got to go through these 1018 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,120 steps to be the boss. You can't just be the boss. 1019 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,600 You have to earn to be the boss. So I'm explaining it to her. 1020 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,080 So I guess she went to school the next day. 1021 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,280 She was only 7. And she told the teacher, I'm 1022 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,040 not doing any of the work because I'm going to be Aceo one 1023 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,080 day. And I was like, so I got a phone 1024 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920 call. They're like, did you tell her 1025 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480 she didn't have to do her work because she's going to be Aceo 1026 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,200 one day? And I was like, Oh my God, oh 1027 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,840 that's funny. I'm like, this kid is. 1028 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:58,080 Smart, you know? So, But very unruly. 1029 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,400 But not me. Just doesn't want to do. 1030 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,920 She wants to go talk or hug people or chat, and it's not 1031 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520 anything nefarious or bad. It's all cute, but like, it's 1032 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,080 disruptive. And I get it. 1033 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,880 So we took her out, we put her into a Montessori school, and it 1034 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,000 has been the best thing we've done. 1035 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,200 I was scared because I was like, yeah, but what if she doesn't 1036 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,080 learn how to read, write or what if this or what if that? 1037 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,040 And she and the lady that does it is happens to be my neighbor. 1038 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,160 And she said listen, do you know in Sweden and other countries 1039 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,800 they don't even send their kids to actual school till they're 1040 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,400 almost nine And I was like, what? 1041 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,280 And she's like no. And reading in like other 1042 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,640 countries where even the people that are like off the grid, like 1043 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,680 Aboriginal type people where they have no contact with the 1044 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,160 outside, they learn their language, like the reading of 1045 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,440 their people by mouth and by teaching because it's so 1046 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,680 important, kids will learn language. 1047 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,560 She's like, it happens. And I was so scared, but I 1048 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,720 thought, OK, whatever. We've tried this other way. 1049 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,600 It's not working, you know, So we do it because. 1050 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,560 Well, also she went to school one day and told her teacher she 1051 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,520 was 8 then and this teacher and her there was no escaping the 1052 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,640 teacher because she was the same special Ed teacher no matter 1053 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,080 what grade. OK, so we're not escaping. 1054 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,520 And she looked at her one day and she said, I know why your 1055 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,120 husband left. Too. 1056 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:33,680 And I was like, oh. OK, I got a phone call, got a 1057 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,120 phone call about that one. I was like, I don't know why she 1058 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,920 knew that the husband left, but she did. 1059 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,760 So I guess the teacher shouldn't have shared, but I'm. 1060 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,240 Like, well, you can't say she's dumb because that was pretty 1061 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,800 funny, But did you ask? Did you ask the teacher if she? 1062 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,840 Was upset because she said it, or if she was upset because it 1063 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,480 was true. It might be true. 1064 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,960 Yeah, I was like, Oh my gosh. So I yanked her out. 1065 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,040 And like I said, she does two days a week that are kind of 1066 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,200 normal classes, but she has one day a week. 1067 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,280 That's a nature class. And they take her and they do 1068 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,440 these hikes and they teach them like what mushrooms you can eat 1069 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,640 and what mushrooms you can't eat and like all this cool nature 1070 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,920 stuff. And she loves. 1071 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,320 It. She loves it. 1072 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,280 And I'm like, I think a lot of times it's just finding what 1073 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,920 they're passionate about. Yeah, like you have. 1074 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,480 You know you have to find the niche, right? 1075 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,120 And you have to find a way to teach them too. 1076 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,880 I, you know, I'm, I'm married to a teacher and I've got family 1077 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,160 who are teachers. So I I choose my words very. 1078 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,960 Carefully. But you know it. 1079 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,200 It's. It's it. 1080 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,440 Sucks that every child has to be. 1081 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,680 Taught the same. There are some children who just 1082 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,680 learn differently. You know, we my, my youngest was 1083 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,040 diagnosed with, he's diagnosed with ADHDI. 1084 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600 Don't know if it's necessarily ADHD or just, you know, he's 1085 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,200 just there's a lot he wants to do in a short amount of time. 1086 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,320 So and we, you know, we were really blessed with the fact 1087 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,560 that he had. He's had teachers who understand 1088 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,560 that they're like, look, if you got to get up and walk around, 1089 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,880 get up and walk around just. Right. 1090 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,680 Walk around and go help other because what he would. 1091 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,320 Do is he'd get up and walk around, but he'd go help other 1092 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,800 people with their stuff and they're like, not how funny that 1093 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,240 you just got to get up and walk around kind of thing, right? 1094 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,400 Because yeah, don't be distracted. 1095 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,520 And they understood like. With for some students, I I 1096 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,400 can't teach you the same way and that's the same way that you 1097 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,920 know back in the 1800s. Apparently I I didn't live back 1098 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,680 then so I don't I don't know. But from what I'm? 1099 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,640 Their classrooms were set up more in a circle versus in row 1100 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,960 because circles, you know, circles encourage conversation. 1101 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,160 Circles encourage people to call to each other where if it's in 1102 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,160 rows, you know you're not necessarily going to get that, 1103 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,160 you're going to get the teacher. More kind of dictating, you 1104 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,880 know, right. Dictators interaction from the 1105 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:51,720 kids. Sort of thing. 1106 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,240 So yeah, that makes total sense because I think that just the 1107 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,880 art of of just being. And here it goes back to what we 1108 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,960 started with empathy. The empathy has left in so much. 1109 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,960 And it's not just the teaching, it's like nurses. 1110 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,000 I always say to everybody, I've been a nurse 24 years and I 1111 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,200 always and people are like, well, when will you stop? 1112 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,760 And I'm like when I become Nurse Ratched because when when my 1113 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:24,440 when my whole goal is like to make your worst day ever worse 1114 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,640 then then that's. Enough you you can't do that to 1115 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,640 people. And if you're here and you're 1116 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,400 trying to help somebody, but you're being so cruel or not 1117 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,400 understanding. And I work in psych now I I'm 1118 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,960 out of the medical part and I work in psych. 1119 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,880 And so it's a completely different ball game. 1120 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,560 But I've only done that for five years. 1121 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,640 Well six I think 6 years so but you have. 1122 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,760 To have this compassion and it's strange because they know they 1123 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,040 know exactly who has it and who doesn't have it and so. 1124 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,000 It it's like it's not a spoken thing. 1125 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,520 Like the patient will be bad for certain people and then you'll 1126 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,480 come on and if you have just a certain demeanor there, it's 1127 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,680 like they know, you know, oh, she gets it or she's kind or 1128 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,360 whatever, you know? And I don't want it to sound 1129 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,840 like. You know, like my wife, she 1130 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,240 loves her students. You, you know, from the ones who 1131 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,840 are who are perfect to the ones who give her the most trouble. 1132 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,800 Loves, loves each and every one of them. 1133 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,520 And you know, but the the, the adage with all the teachers here 1134 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,920 is after the first, you know, they have so many hopes and the 1135 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,800 teachers have so many hopes and dreams on day one, day two. 1136 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,840 And for and beyond they're playing defense. 1137 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,040 And that's all that. And it's, you know, the big. 1138 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,000 Thing out here that. The It's a it's a It's not 1139 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,440 really a joke. It's a sad. 1140 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,880 The sad truth is we have out here what's called a star test. 1141 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,520 It's you know it's the state regulated test and all the 1142 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,880 teachers know instead of doing. It the way that they want to do 1143 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,920 it. They teach to the test, 1144 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,840 basically. They have to. 1145 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,600 They. Have to because that's what. 1146 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,080 The teachers agree, and that comes down from that comes down 1147 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,320 from the district, which gets it from the state, which gets it 1148 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320 from so and so and so and so and so and so. 1149 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,240 It's it's so hard for them. It's. 1150 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,320 Hard to see. That you know it's. 1151 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,160 This is what they do. Yep. 1152 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,600 And that's exactly they. Do the same thing. 1153 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,880 Here it's called something different. 1154 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,600 I think it's like dibbles or something like that, but same 1155 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,880 thing. And and with my daughter, she 1156 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,600 has, it's always on a computer and I'm like, she doesn't retain 1157 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,640 anything on a computer. It's really hard for her. 1158 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,520 And they're like, well, sorry, you know, kids get so. 1159 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,760 Stressed. About it as well, like they make 1160 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,320 themselves physically sick. You know, the days before and 1161 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,440 you know, there's kids who like their hair's falling out because 1162 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,080 they're so stressed or their stomachs are not throwing up and 1163 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,520 they can't do things. It's just, you know, it goes 1164 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,080 back to again, you know, like, like you were talking about with 1165 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,560 empathy. The teachers have so much 1166 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,640 empathy, but at the same time the teachers are up again. 1167 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,760 They're held. Yeah. 1168 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,280 They're held. They're held accountable to 1169 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,880 these things as. Well, and it's like, Oh yeah, 1170 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,720 that's with everything. Yeah, and I'm sure it's that way 1171 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,440 with you with. With being a nurse as well, 1172 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,040 you've got, you've got for your patients. 1173 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,400 But empathy means you're going to spend more time with your 1174 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,200 patient, which means you your eight hour shift turns into a 12 1175 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,200 hour shift because you're adding, you know, 10 minutes to 1176 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,640 each of your patients or whatever. 1177 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,280 And it's just well, and they don't. 1178 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,640 Even allow us, they're like, oh, OK, we know you work in psych, 1179 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,920 OK? Psych nurses usually work there 1180 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,440 because they've had some problem, OK? 1181 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960 Like nobody wants wants to work there. 1182 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,400 Like it's it's kind of a niche where you're like. 1183 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,080 OK, you've either had trauma, known somebody that had trauma, 1184 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,480 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right. 1185 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,880 Because you have to to know how that feels to kind of give good 1186 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,280 care. So most of us do like either had 1187 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,560 a brother or sister or family member whatever ourselves has 1188 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,520 had some issue. So they tell us, well don't 1189 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,160 don't share your experiences. You're not a therapist. 1190 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,640 I'm like, OK, oh, and don't pray with them. 1191 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,560 Or, like, put your. You know views on them or like 1192 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,760 try and help anything and I'm and don't touch them because 1193 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,440 that might be make them feel weird and you know like if you 1194 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,800 were to hold their hand like you know so everything is so like we 1195 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,480 we can fist bump but we can't even we can't even do we can't I 1196 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,160 think we can do a side pat but we one time I had a patient and 1197 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,960 just wanted a hug you know and they're like no boundaries 1198 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,240 boundaries and. It's hard but. 1199 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,120 I know. Why? 1200 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,560 Yeah. I know why, but it's. 1201 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,120 Still hard? You know, and and same thing for 1202 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,680 teachers. Teachers have had people that 1203 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,480 have stalked them or weird stuff. 1204 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,080 And you know, I get it and I know that's what they're trying 1205 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,240 to protect us from. But at the same time, I'm like, 1206 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,000 I became a nurse because I wanted to help people. 1207 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,320 But now I just chart. I just chart, you know, and a 1208 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,120 lot of times I'll stop. And do things anyways, like if 1209 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,440 somebody asked me to pray. With. 1210 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,360 Them, I will pray with them. And I'm like, well, they 1211 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,240 videotape everything, so I'm sure eventually I'll get called 1212 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,640 in. But you know. 1213 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,160 It is what it is. I'm not going to not, it's not 1214 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,760 my idea. If it's if they come to me, I'm 1215 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,400 not going to turn somebody away and that's that's too hard for 1216 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,960 me and just just think. We're probably in a simulation 1217 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,720 anyway, so it's already written with them. 1218 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,120 So yeah, True. Well, I mean it's. 1219 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,280 All just wild to me, like how we how. 1220 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,920 Much is beyond. Our control, like, really it it 1221 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,000 is weird. I mean, granted, we can take 1222 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,800 hold of what we can take hold of, but a lot of times it does 1223 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,600 really feel like some. Things are just set. 1224 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,880 You know. But kind of like a. 1225 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,640 Choose your own ending story more, I guess. 1226 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,120 Like like there's two ways because you always have choice, 1227 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,560 but like. Not ten ways. 1228 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,320 There's like two ways. You know what I'm saying? 1229 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,160 But. And you hope? 1230 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,120 You always choose correctly, but if you don't, here's the thing. 1231 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,960 We're all fallible. We all fall short of the glory 1232 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,160 of God each and every day, and I really encourage people to be 1233 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,680 more graceful quit being so easily offended if I could give 1234 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:30,200 any advice for anybody. Try not to be so easily offended 1235 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,600 and try not to do rash things like, Oh well, this and this and 1236 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,880 this. So I'm going to unfriend them on 1237 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,880 Facebook right now and I'm like, maybe not, you know, maybe you 1238 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,400 should wait a minute. What if they're just having a 1239 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,600 bad day and it really isn't you, You know? 1240 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,080 Because I've had days like that where maybe I was very nice that 1241 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,440 day or something, you know, and the next day is better, but then 1242 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,880 it becomes this huge thing. That you can't surpass. 1243 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,440 You know, I've gotten I've. Gotten to the point to. 1244 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,000 Where, and this is what I try to tell people is understand the 1245 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,520 energy that you're putting out there. 1246 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,800 You know, good energy, bad energy, whatever it is, you 1247 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,640 know, we are definitely in a in an energy toroidal field. 1248 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,920 You know this. Everything is built on energy. 1249 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,400 And vibration. And just understand what you're 1250 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,480 putting into it. You know, if you're arguing with 1251 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,960 somebody on on Instagram or Facebook, you know, or whatever, 1252 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,880 like Scrolls, Scrolls, Facebook. Yeah. 1253 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,640 How much? How much energy is that? 1254 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,320 Sucking from you so true, what could you do? 1255 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,480 To go actually. Raise your energy, Raise your 1256 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,440 vibrational frequencies Versus versus what? 1257 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,560 You're doing sort of thing, you know? 1258 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,000 Absolutely. And and. 1259 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,280 It's designed that way, yeah, very much. 1260 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,520 Yeah, and then like. It's it already naturally 1261 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,600 happens to a lot of people, like some people are M pass or some 1262 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,280 people just are different than others. 1263 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,560 So like my son said to me the other day we went to amusement 1264 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,200 park and it's fun, we love to go. 1265 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,200 But he looked at me halfway through and he said, when you're 1266 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,360 out, do you ever just feel like so exhausted? 1267 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,280 And I said, what do you mean like from walking around And 1268 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,840 he's like, no, just from all the people. 1269 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,400 And I was like, I get it, you know. 1270 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,320 And I told him, you got to put your armor of God on every day. 1271 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,800 Because if you don't, have you ever called? 1272 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,600 Somebody and they answer the phone and say I was just 1273 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,480 thinking about you. I'm just thinking, you know, 1274 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,920 that's and if it happens. Once. 1275 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,600 That's a coincidence. Maybe even twice, you know? 1276 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,560 But it's it happens so many times, it's like there's 1277 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,160 there's, there's a there there, there's something, there's 1278 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,360 something there. Something. 1279 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,760 Yeah. And they feed off of me. 1280 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840 Well, they're. Constantly trying to irritate. 1281 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,480 Us. Like, I mean, and I say they the 1282 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,360 powers that be because of course we don't know the real names 1283 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,280 because real gangsters, you ain't going to know their names. 1284 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,280 Like, come on, yeah, let's be real. 1285 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040 Like who really runs the mob? Nobody knows. 1286 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,400 Like, because they're smart. But I'm like. 1287 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,680 Here's The thing is whatever you have inside, you also remember 1288 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,520 you can't just give and give and give and give because eventually 1289 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,040 you're going to be out. Like I always think of gas. 1290 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,080 Like you give gasoline, you give gasoline, you're going to. 1291 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,440 There's not an unlimited amount. You're going to have to figure 1292 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,280 out what fills you up, you know, because some people are drains 1293 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,640 and and that's not good necessarily. 1294 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,160 It's OK sometimes. Maybe they're going through 1295 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,200 something or whatever, but if it's all the time. 1296 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,840 Yeah, I understand that they're a drain or? 1297 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,960 Like what they're doing right in training, but if they just kind 1298 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,880 of come up to you and they're just a, you know, every time 1299 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,720 it's load on you, it's. Like. 1300 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,880 I'm, I'm tired. I like, I don't know how to go 1301 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,160 through this. I'm tired. 1302 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,240 Right. Yeah, and. 1303 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,000 Then you know that it's just going to end up the same way. 1304 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,360 Ever seen that? Like you're like, oh man, I 1305 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,760 don't want to talk to them today. 1306 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,800 You know those? Kind of conversations and it and 1307 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,760 it's for a reason. But they do these kind of things 1308 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,160 in general to like harness that energy. 1309 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,720 It really is like that negative. I always think of Monsters Inc 1310 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,960 where they like, are harnessing the screams of the kids and I'm 1311 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,880 like, you know, and at the end. Yeah. 1312 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,720 Oh, they tell us that's revelation of the method 100%. 1313 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,200 Because they have to. I mean, if if you're going to 1314 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:30,359 get into the law, they they have to abide by laws too. 1315 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,000 You're one of the few people I've heard. 1316 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000 Talk about that. I know because I'm on the I'm on 1317 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,920 the same thing you are that that that there's under whatever law, 1318 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,479 whether it's God, whether it's, you know, law, the universe, 1319 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,840 whether it's Inky and Inky or whatever. 1320 01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:47,200 Like, they have to tell you so, but usually they tell you in the 1321 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,920 most asinine ways other than, right? 1322 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,720 Yeah, they make it seem. Ridiculous so that you won't 1323 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,240 believe it, or movies that nobody's going to watch. 1324 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:59,240 Like the Straight to D movies? Exactly. 1325 01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,120 A bit. Like the worst D movie. 1326 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,680 But I I mean they, but they also like people are so fearful and I 1327 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,160 don't know if you're are you Christian? 1328 01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:13,319 Whatever you are. You understand Christianity. 1329 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,399 What I'm asking OK, so your basis for Christianity, you got 1330 01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:20,920 a good concept on it. OK. 1331 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,920 So whatever it is that makes you understand that you have to 1332 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,319 understand as above, so below. I don't care what your pastor 1333 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,240 says. I don't care what anyone says. 1334 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,800 If you don't know both sides like foot. 1335 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,960 I always say football, If you're going to or hockey, you're going 1336 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,800 to go play a team, You're going to watch their reels. 1337 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,399 You're going to watch their games. 1338 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:45,880 You're going to study their crap. 1339 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,479 Why? Because if you don't know both 1340 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,880 sides, that means the bad and the good, and you're going to 1341 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,040 lose. And so a lot of times when I 1342 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,040 bring up in like the Christian stuff, I'll bring up things that 1343 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,640 are. Like Aleister Crowley, like the 1344 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,840 as above so below or this and that and like different things 1345 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,400 that are cult because I'm like you do know that the same 1346 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,240 person. King James that made the King 1347 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,880 James Bible. He made a book on demonology as 1348 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,200 well. Why? 1349 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,640 Why? Because he. 1350 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,800 Didn't make. Anything, he just put it 1351 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,680 together. It was already done. 1352 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,320 So if it was important enough for him to actually scribe out 1353 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,920 and bind together a book about all the Christian stuff. 1354 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,760 And he did exactly the same for all the evil stuff. 1355 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,040 Maybe you ought to be wise to that, because there are no 1356 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,640 accidents. They're trying to tell you 1357 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,680 something you know and. Whether you believe in 1358 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,680 Christianity. Per SE or not, it's still 1359 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040 energy. It's still like good and bad 1360 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,800 energy. And so you have to know what 1361 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,440 you're doing. You have to be able to protect 1362 01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:55,960 yourself. How are you going to do that if 1363 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,600 you don't know what you're up against? 1364 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,120 Yeah, I played. I was. 1365 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,560 Lucky to play baseball all the way up through college and we 1366 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,920 always had a scouting report on the pitcher we were facing. 1367 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,520 He always starts off first pitch fastball. 1368 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,040 You know. You know their stuff. 1369 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,920 You know their stuff and they have the same. 1370 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,320 Thing on us like this, he's a fastball hitter. 1371 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,520 Don't give him anything low and inside, you know, or they would 1372 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,560 study because you again, you know, like Sun Tzu said, you 1373 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,480 have to know your enemy. Yes. 1374 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,240 And if, if we can. Understand it like you just 1375 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,560 explained it to me. You could explain that to 1376 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,800 anybody. In sports and they would be 1377 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,800 like, yeah, no, that's totally makes sense. 1378 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,520 But if you went and told the Christian. 1379 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,720 You should be studying about demons. 1380 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,640 They'd be like, you're crazy. And I get that look sometimes 1381 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,760 when I'm in the Christian, you know, you couldn't see it on the 1382 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,160 one, I think 99% of pastors. Will tell them not to. 1383 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,360 They will they tell their. They tell them it's dangerous. 1384 01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,400 The church we're going to, they told us. 1385 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:01,480 He basically said, he said don't read anything about your Bible. 1386 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,760 You know, don't read, you know, don't. 1387 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,120 Don't look at anything else. Don't read anything else. 1388 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,280 And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. 1389 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,560 No, because it doesn't. How are you going to? 1390 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,200 Figure anything out because Paul quoted from. 1391 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,600 Things that were extra biblical as well, you know, And and what 1392 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,240 about those canons? Like the canons that they didn't 1393 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,040 put in the Bible are just as important, I'm not saying. 1394 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,680 They're the word, but they are important because they wouldn't 1395 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,920 be written if they weren't. And many of them have Dead Sea 1396 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,040 Scrolls found later to support them, just like the Bible. 1397 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,280 But yet they never added them in the Canon. 1398 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,720 Why? Why is this the stuff they don't 1399 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,560 want you to know? It's the same thing I asked 1400 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,120 people. You know, do you do you think 1401 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,680 the government has your best interests at heart? 1402 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,520 Do you trust the Catholic Church explicitly? 1403 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,480 No. Well, guess who was really in 1404 01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:49,080 charge of the Bible when it first happened? 1405 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,000 And gathering all the books and who has archives that's like 17 1406 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,080 miles long? What do you what do you think 1407 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,280 they're? So much is. 1408 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,960 Missing so. Much is missing. 1409 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,840 We only get. I think if if we're honest, we 1410 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:05,600 probably have not even a a thumbnail of knowledge 1411 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,320 considering what we really need to know on both, yeah? 1412 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,640 'Cause I've been to the. Vatican and it's insane. 1413 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,360 The size and everything. Yeah, I mean. 1414 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,720 It's overwhelming, right? And. 1415 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,200 And then you've got. That the. 1416 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,440 Building that the Pope sits in that looks like a serpent's 1417 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:23,480 head. Oh yeah. 1418 01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:26,000 There's so much stuff. And what do they say in the end 1419 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,480 days? That the church will help bring 1420 01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:31,320 it to that they will help bring the Antichrist to power the 1421 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,840 church that's that's in there. So I always tell people. 1422 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,680 Like. Even though my life was hard, 1423 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,440 even though I was in Mormonism, even though all this weird stuff 1424 01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:45,760 I always people are like, well, you didn't leave all the way. 1425 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,320 Because a lot of people, when they leave, they become 1426 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,800 atheists. And they say, how did that not 1427 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,640 happen to you? You didn't have a lot of other 1428 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,360 people in your life, you know, that weren't Christian when I 1429 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,280 was young. I did later, and I would say 1430 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,920 because I always knew who God was, because I felt it. 1431 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,400 It wasn't what someone told me or what I read or any of that 1432 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,280 crap. As a little kid, desperate and 1433 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,640 in desperate situation, I knew there was something else. 1434 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,800 And you have to get. To that point, that's. 1435 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,320 Why I always say to people God's not in a building, you know, 1436 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,360 they make such a big deal about church God. 1437 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:27,440 I That's why one of the reasons why I have the mountains on my 1438 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,840 logo and why I call it unfiltered rise, because the 1439 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,560 mountains are church for me. I love the mountains. 1440 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,080 Maybe that's not for somebody else. 1441 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,440 Maybe they love the ocean. You know, whatever. 1442 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,720 It's fine. But for me, that's where it is. 1443 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,200 That's where I feel the most with God. 1444 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:50,000 You know and and that's what I do and I I just. 1445 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,200 I don't. I will never belong to a belong 1446 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,200 to another church roster. I might go, you know what they 1447 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,120 want People who. Worship God in nature. 1448 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,760 They call them pagans. Yeah, I know I'm a little. 1449 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,080 Little bit, but I believe only in the Bible. 1450 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,680 So that that's good. But I do think we should be 1451 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,320 armed with all the knowledge. I don't think that just because 1452 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,400 I only believe. In. 1453 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,880 The Bible doesn't mean I don't think things are missing. 1454 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,720 It doesn't mean I don't think things are hidden. 1455 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,080 It doesn't mean I don't because I've been fooled before. 1456 01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,480 See So. I. 1457 01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,320 Know. That all I can do is take what I 1458 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,360 do have. And study the things that they 1459 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,960 have like you have to. Know what? 1460 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,680 You're up against because if I had known some of the stuff 1461 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,440 about OTOI wouldn't have been doing weird stuff in the church 1462 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,840 at the temple ceremony, because I would have known it was part 1463 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,280 of a Gnostic mass, and I don't think I would have chose to do 1464 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,360 that. You married at the temple? 1465 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,840 I was, yes. So you could go your. 1466 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,440 Husband could go to his own planet and you have a bunch of 1467 01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:54,400 wives? No, not this husband. 1468 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:59,720 But my ex-husband, he's yeah. Yeah, he he probably wants that. 1469 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,640 Still, that's why we broke up. He was already trying to play 1470 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,240 that number but I was like but. Yeah. 1471 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,600 He I mean. You know, anything that that any 1472 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,960 person gives you and stamps church on it, you better really 1473 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,840 examine it, yeah. Because. 1474 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,440 It's. It's too many. 1475 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:24,720 People. Like leading other people astray 1476 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,080 for their own, for their own will. 1477 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,760 Well, if, oh, I yeah, if you could know the truth. 1478 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,760 There wouldn't be 700 denominations alone. 1479 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,160 The Christian, you know, just alone in the. 1480 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,840 And I'm not. I'm not including Mormons or 1481 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,760 Catholics or no, but he's just talking like Southern Baptist, 1482 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,480 Second Baptist, First Southern Baptist, Anabaptist, you know, 1483 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:46,800 Northern Baptist, blah, blah, blah. 1484 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,520 You know, there's like, if the truth was, if the truth was 1485 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,800 readily available to us there, you wouldn't have that. 1486 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,240 And but instead you've got all these denominations saying we've 1487 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,880 got the right track. We'll show you how to worship 1488 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,400 Gras. We we know. 1489 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:02,360 Yeah. We know the truth. 1490 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,040 We know well and. Here's the thing. 1491 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:10,160 If you really study something with a true heart and you are in 1492 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,880 just the Bible, nothing else, no other thing. 1493 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,720 Study. It pray about. 1494 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,920 It Think about it. Ponder on it. 1495 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,280 It doesn't say we're just supposed to read it and be like, 1496 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,760 OK, I read that that's great. You're supposed to be. 1497 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:24,240 It's not. It's. 1498 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,520 It's the. Living word you're supposed to 1499 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,680 be a in the Bible says. You're supposed to be a Berean. 1500 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,920 You're supposed to, you know daily, you know, daily being in 1501 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,280 and challenge what you believe in and back it up and you know 1502 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,680 that's the that's what I loved about Paul. 1503 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,880 Paul was just I I loved Paul because. 1504 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,840 It was such a weird story, like for him to be what he was and 1505 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,600 turned into what he became and then to study everything he 1506 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,360 studied and turn it all around. Like that's an amazing story and 1507 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,760 that can be any of us. And I don't care if somebody 1508 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,840 tells you you have to do ABCD, that's not true. 1509 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,800 Figure out inside yourself. It's the living word for a 1510 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,920 reason. And I don't read it. 1511 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,600 I think everyone should read it in its entirety at least once. 1512 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,360 But like, when I go to study, I don't do that. 1513 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,360 I don't pick up where I left off last time. 1514 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,960 I pray and I just open it because there's usually a little 1515 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,720 message in there for me for that day. 1516 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,960 And maybe another day it will be the same thing, but it will mean 1517 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,880 something different that day, you know? 1518 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,680 And I I mean, that's just for me and my testimony, but I just 1519 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,280 feel like people. Discount that so heavily that it 1520 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,520 has to be like, well, I can't read the scriptures right now 1521 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,080 because I'm not doing this and this and this or I can't do this 1522 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,960 right now because I'm not perfect in every way. 1523 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,680 Like, you're going to waste a lot of time. 1524 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,120 You're never going to get there. Not like that, you know? 1525 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,600 You just gotta God. Loves us. 1526 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,240 No matter what, I always try and tell people like think of your 1527 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,120 kids or think of something that you love if you don't have kids, 1528 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,960 like an animal or anything, how much you have love for your 1529 01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:05,400 parent or whatever. And times that by Infinity, like 1530 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,160 it's that much and you're that important. 1531 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:15,000 So like, do you really think that you are nothing, You know, 1532 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,800 we're just nothing here. I don't believe that, you know. 1533 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,600 Yeah, I do. I. 1534 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,040 Do well, I think that's me. I think that's a good. 1535 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,520 Place to end. It for tonight. 1536 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,480 I don't know. You got it. 1537 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,320 Probably go for two or three more hours. 1538 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,080 Yeah. I'm a chatter girl. 1539 01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:35,000 Yeah, but if we if. We do everything all at once. 1540 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,640 I can't have you back on again, so there you go. 1541 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,280 So we'll break. This up in like. 3/1 and 1/2 1542 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,720 hour segments or something like that. 1543 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,520 There we go. Sounds good to me. 1544 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,440 So. Real quick, just I we we covered 1545 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,160 a whole bunch. We did. 1546 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,600 We went all over the place. We did. 1547 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,320 If you could wrap it up in. Maybe a couple sentences or 1548 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,000 paragraph and then just kind of give us a perfect elevator pitch 1549 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,960 on how to on how to get out. Awesome. 1550 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,040 All right. Well. 1551 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,920 I am Heidi Love. I'm at the Unfiltered Rise. 1552 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,320 I'm wherever podcasts are serviced. 1553 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800 I'm also at Unfiltered Rise at Gmail. 1554 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,360 If you have a story you want to send me. 1555 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,440 I'm on Facebook, all the socials, Instagram, TikTok, just 1556 01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:17,840 everything. I'm not on X 'cause I was never 1557 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,400 a Twitter person and I just haven't done it so that that 1558 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,600 one's a whole nother story too. But whatever, I'm on YouTube. 1559 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,240 As of now, I hope to be able to stay there. 1560 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,360 I'm actually really. Really glad that I've been able 1561 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,680 to be LED into this situation where I can speak out to people 1562 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,960 and hopefully help people in their everyday lives. 1563 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,160 And that is my main goal 'cause I never plan to do podcasting, 1564 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:49,280 but yet here I am. So it was kind of an accident. 1565 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,040 But no, honestly. Check her out, you know, like 1566 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,120 she said, you'll find her on what? 1567 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:58,720 However you listen to him, she's got a lot of great, lot of great 1568 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,720 guests, a lot of great points of views maybe comes at it from a. 1569 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,840 A way that a lot of people don't. 1570 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,960 Just the way she thinks, Being a nurse. 1571 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,000 You know everything like that. And on that, I'm John, the Fed. 1572 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,240 This is How the hell do we Wind Up here Podcast. 1573 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,480 And thanks for listening. Do you? 1574 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:18,080 Want. I'm sorry. 1575 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,240 No, you're good. I was going to. 1576 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,840 Say I can just add. It on the bottom. 1577 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,400 Just send me your stuff too, and I'll put it in the show notes. 1578 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,680 Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. Absolutely. 1579 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,120 All right. Awesome. 1580 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:29,280 Thanks. Again. 1581 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:30,120 Yeah. Thank you. 1582 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,080 I'll talk to you later. Bye. 1583 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,960 Bye, bye. I got it. 1584 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:33,800 Alicia, I'll take her out.