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Hello everyone, and welcome to 
another episode of The 

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Unfiltered Rise with me, Heidi 
Love. 

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And today I have a guest with 
me, Johan. 

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He does self sabotage coaching, 
which he's going to explain to 

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us, and he's also a podcaster of
boundless authenticity. 

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So, Johan, how are you doing 
today? 

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I'm doing great. 
I'm happy to be here with you. 

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Awesome. 
I'm glad you're here as well to 

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enlighten our guests and tell 
people exactly what it is that 

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you do, along with a couple 
questions that I have. 

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But will you let our listeners 
tell? 

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Tell them where they can find 
you? 

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You can find me on Instagram at 
Jahan Sator, so I'll spell that 

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JEHANSATTAUR or you can e-mail 
me at self sabotage info and 

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proton dot me. 
You can also check out my little

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website which has nothing on it 
self sabotage dot XYZ and you 

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can search for boundless 
authenticity podcast. 

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Awesome. 
Well definitely go check out and

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follow him on Instagram and all 
his other sites so that you can 

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find out what he's all about 
because after this you're going 

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to want to know. 
So what is a self sabotage 

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coach? 
The self sabotage coach is a guy

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that does his best not to slap 
the crap out of everybody that 

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comes. 
I mean it, it kind of amounts to

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that because when you have to go
to a self sabotage coach, it 

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means that you are messing up 
stuff in your life in such a way

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that it's either creating too 
much for you to fix or you're 

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starting to realize that you're 
getting there. 

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And it's probably your own 
stubbornness that's keeping you 

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there. 
You know, it's your own 

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repetitive behaviors that are 
keeping you there, right? 

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So I I'm the tough guy that 
people come to when traditional 

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talk therapy has failed. 
That's where the slapping come. 

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No, no, he said he tries his 
best not to slap. 

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Yeah, yeah, no, but I get it. 
You kind of have to have, you 

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have to have a bad guy. 
And, and I think it's funny, I 

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heard you talk on another 
podcast and I think it's funny 

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how we have gone from a society 
that our dads were this, right? 

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This was what our dad's jobs 
were kind of, they were the 

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heavy, you know, and now they're
not because they don't want to 

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hurt your feelings. 
And heaven forbid we do any of 

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that. 
And also, you know, we just are 

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more of a soft society, which 
I'm not saying it's not good in 

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some ways, but then when you 
take something too far, society 

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crumbles a little bit, right? 
Yeah, precisely. 

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There's a there's a radical 
infantilization of the human 

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race that has been occurring for
a long time. 

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And I talk about it sometimes I 
think, I don't know if you've 

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heard me talk about it, but 
there's a guy called Wilhelm 

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Want and he's basically a 
progenitor of the philosophy of 

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Hegel. 
And you know, anybody that's 

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heard of conspiracy theories 
knows Hegelian dialect and 

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things like that. 
But the Hegelian mindset is 

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basically what has shaped the 
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psychological and philosophical 
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education system. 
So, you know, I guess I, I would

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like to say everything is a 
cult. 

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Everything's based on a cult 
mentality. 

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There is nothing in society that
doesn't lead you back to a cult 

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that started it. 
And that upsets a lot of people 

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because they don't want to admit
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Because they think that when you
say that, that they have to put 

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away their Bibles or they have 
to put away whatever piece of 

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religious literature they're 
attached to, or they have to 

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stop going to church or they 
have to stop doing this thing or

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that thing, you know, stop 
meditating or whatever. 

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But it just, it doesn't work 
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Like you, you can't just stop 
being a person in the world 

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because you figured some things 
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They can change your strategy 
for relating to the world and 

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make you a better person, make 
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and self reflective, which is 
what you're trying to do all the

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time anyway, right? 
So when you trace the lineage of

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everything, you realize that 
people have become weakened and 

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they can't think for themselves 
and they can't emotionally 

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regulate and they cannot create 
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And they pretty much spend most 
of their time at war with 

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themselves or with other people.
And that's all because of 

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Wilhelm Want and people like 
Adam Weiktopf and those the 

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Freemasons and stuff like that, 
you know, so. 

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And and also I wanted to mention
for anybody, it's not an audio 

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glitch. 
They're crickets. 

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Just so you guys know, he lives 
in a cool place and he's got 

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crickets up in the house. 
So not in his house, but you 

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know what I mean? 
And I just want to mention that 

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'cause sometimes people will 
send me messages about it. 

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So we'll get that out of the way
right now. 

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But I do agree, Hagel, you know,
they can even there's so many 

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people that I'll see actually 
quote Hagel and then turn around

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and post something that is 
completely the Hegelian 

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dialectic. 
And I'm like, wait a minute, 

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what part of this are we not 
understanding? 

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And I'm not saying like, I don't
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nothing should be overtaking 
your life to the point that it's

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your God. 
Even if it is about God, even if

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it is about your family, even if
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and it's righteous and it's 
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It can be all the good in the 
world, right and still be. 

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You can still be wrong when it's
right in a way of speaking 

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because. 
I always talk about. 

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Yeah, John Dee, like he loved 
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trying to channel God and he was
trying to do all these good 

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wholesome things. 
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he's sharing his wife with his 
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So like it can go too far. 
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You got. 
To rein that back, other than 

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God Almighty himself, I don't 
ever rain that back. 

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But anything that's material 
here on this planet or whatever,

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I mean, you got to watch your 
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Yeah, you do. 
Yeah, and, and I'm sure you see 

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people all the time that make 
whatever their God. 

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I made my daughter my God. 
I'll admit it right now. 

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You know, in 2020, I woke up 
from that because she decided to

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cut me off. 
But I definitely could see 

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afterward like, oh, this is 
probably a problem, even though 

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it had nothing to do with why 
she cut me off. 

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She got married and he just 
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But and that happens. 
I talk openly about it because I

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figured all these problems we 
get in life, you can either, you

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can either sabotage yourself, 
you know, hurt yourself, be 

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inside yourself completely think
you're alone, or you can speak 

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about it. 
And you probably will be shocked

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how many people are going 
through the same, maybe not the 

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same situation, but those same 
feelings, you know, and I know 

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you spoke about that. 
And I'll let you take the floor 

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there. 
Well, what exactly is the 

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question? 
Well, just about how people kind

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of get within themselves on a 
depression or, or sabotaging 

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themselves or whatever with that
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without us realizing. 
Oh, people just learn that 

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behavior. 
All that stuff like, like I just

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said, all this stuff that we 
believe about psychological 

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diagnosis and the protocol for 
dealing with it and all that 

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really stems back from what and 
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And so you've had all of these 
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essentially that created the 
psychological associations and 

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the journals and all that. 
And people that like anybody 

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that is a licensed psychologist 
or psychiatrist that doesn't 

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know that, they either don't 
want to know that because it'll 

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cost them their job or they're 
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And I mean, to be explicit, 
these diagnosis, the criteria 

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for these symptoms, people come 
up with that literally while 

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they're taking a shit in a 
bathroom at the conferences and 

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stuff. 
And they say, hey, you know 

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what, we should change the 
bipolar to this or we should add

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this in. 
And you know, I just came up 

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with this name for this. 
And you know, and you high 5 

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each other and don't wash their 
hands or whatever. 

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And they go back to the meeting 
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So to these people, you are an 
object. 

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You are a means to an end. 
You're a device that they can 

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put ideas into your head about 
how to be depressed. 

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Nobody telling me how how to be 
sad because that's all it is. 

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You know, I'm sorry, we already 
have that emotion. 

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Thank you. 
Yeah, I'm sorry for anybody that

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is going through depression 
right now, but it's not a brain 

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imbalance. 
It's an adult sulk. 

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That's what it is. 
And you're completely in charge 

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of it. 
But we're conditioned to think 

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that we are powerless over this 
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And it all starts with the way 
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And people don't realize that 
we're just playing out a series 

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of programs all the time. 
And so you've probably heard me 

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say this, but what is a program?
Well, a program is like a cereal

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box, and all of the information 
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is the individual piece of 
Captain Crunch or whatever it is

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you want to imagine it as in 
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So each individual piece is a 
blanket statement that's linked 

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to that program. 
I'm not enough somehow, or I 

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don't, I don't feel safe 
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what it feels like to be loved 
by God or all these different 

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things. 
Are are programs that people 

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have right? 
And so every attempt is made 

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from the culture we see it 
especially online, the cult of 

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psychotherapy and the New Age, 
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religious realm now people are 
talking the most garbage and 

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bringing in things like the 
affirmations and all these kinds

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of stuff to just basically 
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them back into the culture of 
disempowerment whenever you hear

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me talk about. 
Them right it sounds, it sounds 

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like a right, like a smart 
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Yeah, I don't know. 
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Come up with something that 
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You got them, you know, But it 
it's really a lot. 

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It's just more simple than it 
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And that's the reason why people
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way back in the day before all 
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I think it was few and far 
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And you could tell when it was, 
it wasn't like a little bit sad.

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It was it was like, OK, this 
person cannot literally function

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in society at all, you know? 
And I kind of question if it 

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those were TB is the more I 
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I'm like, was this really real 
or was this like an actual brain

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injury or a birth injury, you 
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Yeah. 
You know, a lot of people don't 

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understand the link between 
nutrition and mental illness. 

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So there's a lot of people that 
just weren't happy because they 

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weren't eating right. 
And you can't blame them because

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you're talking about way back in
the day when stuff wasn't 

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readily available up to, what, 
100 years ago, all this garbage 

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that we shoved in our faces. 
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Yeah. 
You know how many? 

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As a nurse I see so many people 
that have their labs completely 

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crazy first vitamins for literal
vitamins nowadays because they 

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eat crap. 
Literally. 

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I'm not saying I don't ever eat 
crap, I'm just saying I try to 

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cook at home for the most part, 
unless it's like a special thing

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or something. 
Like I really do my best to not,

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you know, subscribe to the fast 
food lane. 

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Basically you. 
Know it's. 

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Just dangerous, yeah. 
Well, there's fast poison or 

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there's slow poison. 
I'd rather slow poison myself 

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and make the stuff that I want 
to eat at home then do that, you

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know? 
Less ingredients to poison 

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yourself with anyways. 
At least you have control of 

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what goes in there and it's not 
some polysorbi blah blah blah 

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blah blah. 45 letter word like 
that. 

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We can't even, you know, figure 
out what it is. 

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I mean and and you know, like 
you said. 

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Trisodium phosphate paint 
thinner like. 

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So much stuff and then let alone
the things you know in other 

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countries that are that are 
regulated, that are not 

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regulated in the United States 
is shocking to me. 

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Like food tastes different when 
you travel. 

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It does a lot. 
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And you've been to the States, I
think, so you probably know. 

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The difference, you know, yeah, 
I got really sick when I was 

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over there because of the food. 
Even the healthy food was 

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terrible. 
Yeah, yeah, they say that, you 

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know, Americans are fat 'cause 
they're lazy. 

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Actually Americans are pretty UN
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It's just they just feed us 
basically petroleum all the time

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and you know you're getting it 
and everything. 

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dangerous because at times like 
the lettuce or the tomatoes or 

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whatever, they absorb even more 
of the chemical unless you're 

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getting it locally. 
So I don't even know what to do 

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with that You. 
Know that's exactly why people 

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sell sabotage because they get 
to their next meal and they're 

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like I know this is bad for me 
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I'm putting potentially tomorrow
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And they just they're like screw
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They get a good case of the fuck
it and they just put it in the 

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whole way, you know? 
So true. 

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So I. 
Get those all the time. 

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I just, yeah, I just try to let 
everybody know it's not your 

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fault, really when it comes to 
those kinds of things. 

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Because there's literally people
sitting there in labs that it's 

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either a computer lab or it's a 
science lab, and they're trying 

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to figure out how do I target 
this person's limbic response, 

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you know? 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
And hormonal. 

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And it's so sad to see because, 
you know, you look at the 

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differences between like the 70s
and in the United States, these 

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old pictures, right, on the 
beaches. 

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And nobody's really that heavy. 
Like heavy was like my grandma 

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was considered heavy. 
She was not heavy. 

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She was maybe like a curvy size 
12 or something. 

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She had a, a thyroid problem 
like I do. 

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And, you know, I'm just like, 
wow, OK, that's weird. 

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But like, now, I mean, you're 
seeing you. 

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Yeah. 
Upwards. 

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Of. 
I mean, 500 LB people, and if 

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that is you, I'm not saying 
anything against you. 

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I'm just saying we all know 
that's an issue, right? 

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That we're not supposed to be at
that level, nor are we supposed 

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to be 70 lbs. 
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balance, you know, balance and 
everything. 

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But I think that, yeah, it's 
important that, you know, people

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understand also the effects of 
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government regulation on our 
food. 

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But one thing I definitely want 
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television. 
Cause the ads and all this. 

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And I'll let you take it away on
on the effects of that 'cause I 

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know, I know it's something. 
Yeah. 

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Well, so basically when you're 
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talking about the limbic system,
and you're talking about the 

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same mechanisms when you're 
dealing with the food as well. 

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Because basically what's 
happening is that you have these

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three limbic pathways that are 
targeted by everything. 

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You know, the people that make 
the TV sets, they probably know 

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the people in the labs making 
all the crazy death rectangles, 

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as I call them. 
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the foods and stuff, they're 
basically trying to stimulate 

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one or three pathways all at the
same time. 

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So the first one is like the 
reward pathway. 

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And that sounds pretty, pretty 
self-explanatory. 

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It's just made-up of these 
neurons that are basically 

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sending and receiving 
information. 

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And they're taking different 
neurotransmitters. 

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And a neurotransmitter really is
just information that has to be 

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decoded in another part of your 
brain essentially. 

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And neurotransmitters are 
controlling you like all the way

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through, like doesn't matter 
what you think. 

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Sometimes in certain situations,
if there's a neurotransmitter 

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that's involved, you're screwed 
because you're just trying to 

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get a reward for it, you know? 
So there's a lot of things that 

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happen where different 
collections, neurons fire. 

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this instance with the reward 
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area, because it's just 
basically sending more dopamine 

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to another part of your brain, 
which is the nucleus accumbens. 

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And that gives you that feeling 
of reward and like motivation 

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and is also a learning pathway. 
So when you watch a social media

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video and you feel smart, that's
what that is. 

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You know, you also get the 
dopamine and stuff from the 

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using the screens, right? 
But you, you basically learn 

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what feels good for you through 
the nucleus accumbens having 

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that response. 
And so that's why people get 

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stuck on alcohol and porn and 
shopping or masturbation or 

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picking balls of hair out to 
train, you know, all kinds of 

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weird addictions. 
It's because something's 

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happening in your brain, right? 
And it's literally releasing 

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endogenous opioids, which is 
having the same effect on the 

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brain as heroin. 
So even if it's bad for you, 

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you're going to continue to do 
it because that's what's 

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happening. 
And then you're also stimulating

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contentment pathways. 
So, and that's really all about 

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the prefrontal cortex and the 
somebody called the dorsal refi 

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nucleus, which produces a very 
small amount of serotonin and it

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spreads that out all over your 
cerebral sex. 

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And that's basically helping you
to process experiences and make 

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good judgments. 
So if something's good or bad 

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and you know, serotonin spreads 
out and it it's working 

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differently, pop psychology 
doesn't want you to know that it

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does more than one thing, right?
So it's depending on which part 

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of the brain it's acting on, 
it's going to give a different 

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effect. 
And you know, that's kind of one

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of those things that it gets a 
little bit screwy to explain. 

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It'll take another three hours. 
But the other, the other pathway

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is my favorite because it's, 
it's where all the good stuff is

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at. 
I mean, like the stress fear 

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memory pathway. 
And that is basically the one 

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that the guys in the labs are 
trying to get to the most. 

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And that's the one that's 
stimulated by the television the

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most because. 
Whenever you watch TV or 

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prefrontal cortex deactivates 
right here at the front. 

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And that's the seat of your 
spiritual insight, your ability 

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to rationalize your wisdom, 
decision making, all that good 

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stuff that you need. 
And so if that gets deactivated 

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in less than 90 seconds, for 
instance, and the rest of the 

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brain has to work really hard to
try to fill the role of a part 

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of your brain that has executive
function, right? 

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And I guess in within the stress
fear memory pathway, there's 

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these 4 main areas that are 
considered to be the targets, 

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which would be the amygdala. 
And then we all know that's 

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pretty much related to stress. 
And then the amygdala is talking

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to the hypothalamus, which is 
controlling the cortisol. 

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So that's more stress because 
the stress hormones now pumping 

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even more. 
And then, you know, the 

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hippocampus is trying to figure 
out what's going on. 

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So that's where your memories 
are AT. 

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And so you're interpreting the 
memories that are coming from 

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the television. 
Essentially, anything you watch 

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becomes a memory for you, and it
becomes a part of your personal 

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history. 
So because the subconscious mind

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doesn't know the difference 
between the reality and what is 

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on the television, you're 
referencing things in your life 

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in the present moment based on 
stuff that you've seen. 

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God knows how long ago, you 
know. 

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And so the prefrontal cortex 
gets weakened. 

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And that's supposed to be 
helping you parse this 

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information. 
It's supposed to be helping you 

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take control of your life and 
make good choices. 

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But it can't do anything for you
if you just beat it down all the

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time. 
If you're always scrolling on 

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social media and you're always 
watching TV and you are eating 

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chemicals and stuff that are 
stimulating all of these parts 

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of the brain negatively, then 
you know what? 

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What are you going to do? 
You're going to make all the bad

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choices that are there, right? 
And so those 3 pathways are 

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pretty much responsible for 
generating all of your emotions.

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And you want to focus on the 
concept that it's especially 

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your reward and your contentment
and your fear. 

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If you break it down to just 
being as simple as that and 

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don't think about anything else 
that I've said, then you've 

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pretty much got it. 
And you should understand that 

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you're in danger. 
You know, it's kind of like 

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Ralphie. 
I'm in danger. 

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Like seriously, we are seriously
screwed because these people 

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have been working for so long 
and so hard to figure out 

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exactly how to shut these parts 
of us off, you know? 

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Right, well, and, and it shuts 
down creativity like I'm always 

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telling my family instead of TV,
even if it's something stupid 

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like coloring or, you know, gem 
art or whatever, some something 

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where you're making anything, 
anything is better than that, 

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you know, because or a podcast 
where you're learning something.

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Not saying you can't learn on TV
'cause you can, but like it's 

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got to be intention, right? 
Everything's intention. 

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What are you trying to learn? 
What are you? 

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Are you do scrolling or are you 
actually studying like and I'm 

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not saying I never do it. 
I'm just saying if you are 

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creating or doing something 
constructive then it changes the

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game you know? 
But just doom scroll city or you

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know, silly sitcoms. 
Not, not that I never do it, but

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I have a hard time to be honest 
if unless it's a documentary or 

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something that I'm learning. 
I have a really hard time 

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anymore with TV. 
Well, nobody needs to be 

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watching sitcoms ever. 
Sitcoms exist because everything

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that's bad for you is packaged 
up as being fun on purpose. 

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So that's how they get all this 
information in your head, 

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especially when it comes to 
interpersonal relationships and 

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things about money and whatnot. 
They can get you to go ha ha, ha

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at it. 
Then they got you because you're

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going to carry out, you know, 
Will and Grace's behaviors or 

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Frasier or Friends or whatever, 
all these different things. 

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That's why they have reruns all 
the time. 

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That's why these same TV shows 
are on pretty much every generic

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television station ever, and 
that's why they're scattered all

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throughout the globe for other 
people to watch those things, 

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because they want you to become 
those characters, right? 

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Right. 
Yep. 

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So they do their best. 
Yeah, they scandalous. 

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Right. 
It's always some scandal, like 

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it's never like the best thing 
ever. 

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It's always like so and so was 
cheating on their wife or 

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husband or there's this crazy 
thing or, or they're spending 

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all their money on gambling, 
whatever it is. 

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And you're like, this is not 
real life, you know? 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
That's how it becomes real life 

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because they, you know, let's 
see, when did Friends come out? 

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In the early 90s. 
And now there's a whole 

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generation of people that are 
actually as stupid as Ross 

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Geller because that TV show 
existed, right? 

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But it's it's screwed up 
because, you know, you add in 

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the behaviors of the characters 
and then you think about the 

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commercials that often come in 
between and it's the same stuff.

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It's you know, it's pushing you 
in the direction of learning 

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problems. 
If you're a kid, you're going to

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have problems at school. 
You're going to be pre exposed 

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to things that will lead you 
down the path of drugs and 

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alcohol, smoking, you probably 
going to end up obese. 

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You're going to pick up 
inappropriate sexual behavior in

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one form or another. 
And you know, what is that? 

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What is any of that really going
to get you? 

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Like people really think that 
watching these, like you said, 

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scandalous TV shows and stuff 
are serving a purpose. 

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But he, I think it's the average
kid by age 18 has seen 2000 acts

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of murder and rape. 
I mean, that's crazy, you know, 

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like, so Can you imagine what 
that's doing to your psyche, 

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right? 
And apart from all of the sex 

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and all the violence and stuff 
in these TV shows, and apart 

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from the drug use, the other 
main themes are satanic worship 

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or like dark magic, witchcraft 
and actually hating God and 

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stuff like that, you know, and. 
There's definitely no Jesus. 

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Yeah, there's no God on shows 
unless they're demonizing it, 

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that's for sure. 
Yeah, precisely. 

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And even some of the religious 
programming gives you the wrong 

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impression about what's going on
there too. 

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And I think that that's the 
purpose of it. 

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And things like TBN and stuff, 
my grandmother used to watch TBN

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back in the day and it would 
drive me crazy because it just, 

453
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,080
none of the stuff that they were
saying made any sense. 

454
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800
It just, they just kind of 
looked like they were up to no 

455
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,280
good, you know? 
Does that make sense to you? 

456
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Like they just these TV 
preachers and stuff, you gotta 

457
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280
watch them 'cause they just want
your money and your soul, you 

458
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,000
know? 
No for sure. 

459
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Anything that's after money, you
should probably, whether it's 

460
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,960
religious or not, you should 
probably be concerned, like 

461
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520
wary, you know? 
Yeah, we should run. 

462
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560
Yeah. 
What happened? 

463
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,520
I said about the TV. 
Yeah, exactly. 

464
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,240
Well, I think it gets into 
definite mind control and let 

465
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,120
alone revelation of the method, 
right. 

466
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,200
I mean, subconsciously they're 
getting away with things in your

467
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
mind that you can't even see 
like on the TV. 

468
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Like, we're not just talking 
about overt, we're talking about

469
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,160
little tiny sneaky things like 
that. 

470
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,440
They sneak in there, you know? 
Yeah, yeah. 

471
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,080
Wash their hands, you know. 
Yeah, and it's just as if that 

472
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,960
wasn't the worst thing. 
It's the actual biological 

473
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,480
effect of the television itself.
The machinery is a biological 

474
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480
weapon. 
And you know, we've all just 

475
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,040
been a part of a huge experiment
where they're only now admitting

476
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,560
that the TV in itself is 
responsible for lowering IQ in 

477
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,240
people, like decreasing their 
verbal abilities, decreasing 

478
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,600
their literacy, creating 
antisocial behavior, you know, 

479
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,560
creating addiction, poor mental 
health. 

480
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,520
You know, it just has 
skyrocketed. 

481
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,000
And because of that, because of 
the damage to like the 

482
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,200
hypothalamus and the sensory 
motor area and your visual 

483
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,480
cortex and all these different 
things, you're getting all these

484
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,680
different health problems that 
you wouldn't even think. 

485
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,520
And I think it's even like 
borderline personality disorder.

486
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,040
So they say. 
So they have labeled it. 

487
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120
It's increasing the likelihood 
of people to develop 

488
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,360
characteristics of that the TV 
when you're not in front of it. 

489
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Like if you're a TELEVISION 
addict, it makes actually makes 

490
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,400
people depressed because of the 
chemical reactions in the brain 

491
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080
when the TV is on versus when 
it's not on. 

492
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,160
You know, the likelihood of 
engaging in criminal activity 

493
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760
increases by like 27 percent or 
something like that. 

494
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,080
There's an interesting story. 
There's a professor, Jerry 

495
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Cross, I can't remember what 
university he's from, but he 

496
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,560
does have a YouTube channel and 
he talks about the movie Gone in

497
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,960
60 Seconds in a place called 
Barnaby, British Columbia. 

498
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,680
The day after that movie came 
out, the crying skyrocketed 

499
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280
because everybody was stealing 
cars. 

500
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Everybody wanted to be Nicolas 
Cage, you know, And that kind of

501
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,040
stuff happens all the time. 
So you can only imagine how many

502
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,520
people get raped or robbed or 
murdered when the next box 

503
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,960
office hit comes out, you know? 
Absolutely. 

504
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960
I mean, there's a reason for 
these things that they wouldn't 

505
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,560
spend millions of dollars on 
studies of mice and different 

506
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440
things to figure all this out 
for nothing. 

507
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Like they definitely have a 
reason. 

508
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Yeah. 
And I, I think it's funny people

509
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,240
miss that. 
It's called television 

510
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560
programming. 
They dropped that, right? 

511
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,640
It's just TV now. 
But. 

512
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Yeah, it came out. 
When it came out, it was 

513
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,600
television programming and. 
So. 

514
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,280
It's just even this week the 
whole Trump thing happened. 

515
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:04,360
And I am not an idolater of any 
of the sort of any politics or 

516
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,840
otherwise. 
Like it's it's irrelevant to me 

517
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,000
or to my life because none of 
them are going to save us. 

518
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Like that's not where it's at. 
And so, but I've watched it just

519
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,560
saturate the the web, much like 
the hawk to a girl the week 

520
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,720
before. 
And I'm like. 

521
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,520
She's another industry plant 
too, yeah. 

522
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,200
Yeah, what are they doing here? 
You know, Oh boy. 

523
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,040
And. 
I mean. 

524
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,360
It's not real life like what 
what you know, it's just. 

525
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,880
Yeah, political thinking is one 
of the most useless devices out 

526
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,320
there. 
The only thing that's going to 

527
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,640
get you anywhere in this 
lifetime is going to be your 

528
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,200
ability to self regulate and to 
self reflect in your 

529
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
relationship with God, whatever 
that may be. 

530
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Whatever faith you are of, as 
long as you use that to your 

531
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,480
advantage and use it as the 
driving force behind doing good 

532
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
things, then you'll be all 
right. 

533
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,200
But following politics? 
No way. 

534
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Yeah, none of it. 
Yeah, none of it. 

535
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Yeah, I mean, it's all just 
theater, you know, it's, it's 

536
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,480
the same thing as watching a 
play. 

537
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,080
And I, I, I know that really 
bothers some people 'cause 

538
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,480
they're like, no, God saved him 
or, you know, this happened or 

539
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
that happened. 
I don't know what happened, 

540
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,680
'cause I wasn't there. 
But I can tell you this, the way

541
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,000
they took advantage of it, 
whether or not whatever happened

542
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,040
that day was the problem, right?
They took, they let nothing go 

543
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440
to waste. 
When it's some big thing like 

544
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,160
that, whether it was 
orchestrated or not, I raise an 

545
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,680
eyebrow personally. 
But whatever, whatever the case 

546
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,720
may be, I'll say this. 
He's Dang lucky if that wasn't 

547
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,000
orchestrated. 
No, it definitely was. 

548
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,960
It definitely was orchestrated. 
And there there's, you know, I 

549
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,760
don't even want to get into 
stuff like this, but there's 2 

550
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Donald Trump. 
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 

551
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
It's like what? 
And there I don't know how many 

552
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Bidens there are going to be at 
least five of them 'cause they 

553
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160
none of them look the same. 
They. 

554
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Don't they? 
Get they got to get a better job

555
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,960
on that. 
Like, I don't know what's 

556
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,640
happening over there. 
Like get get at least the guy 

557
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,720
that has the same earlobes, 
like. 

558
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Yeah, I was having a good laugh 
the other day when somebody said

559
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,400
that on ancestry.com. 
It says Joe Biden died in 2018. 

560
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,760
I laughed so hard. 
Some of this stuff is really out

561
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280
there. 
Yeah, yeah. 

562
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,040
It's a weird situation. 
And then, you know, I have to 

563
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,160
ask you this one about Colts 
because you know about, I don't 

564
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440
know if you know my history, but
I was a Mormon for 34 years. 

565
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,600
One of the best underrated cults
ever. 

566
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,520
I feel they get, they get away 
with a lot because they're like,

567
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,480
we're not a cult. 
We're just good guys. 

568
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,240
And I'm like. 
Yeah, but then again, Joseph 

569
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Smith, right? 
Right, quite, quite the guy over

570
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,520
there. 
So how about those brainwashing 

571
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,120
techniques? 
How about that? 

572
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,199
We'll go down this little path 
since I do live in Utah. 

573
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,960
Yeah, You know, I, one of my 
best friends grew up in a 

574
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,440
culture. 
It was also, it was also Mormon.

575
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,040
And basically she, her sisters 
and her mother couldn't do much 

576
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,760
of anything. 
It is basically or washing 

577
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,360
people's underwear. 
And it was a terrible 

578
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,120
experience, but they eventually 
got out of it and everybody 

579
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,440
called her mother crazy and 
stuff like that for trying to 

580
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,880
get out of the cold and whatnot.
But she wanted more for the 

581
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,239
kids, you know. 
But anyways, there's there's 

582
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,600
these five basic forms of mind 
control that are used is 

583
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,440
brainwashing, hypnosis, 
manipulation, persuasion and 

584
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,560
deception. 
And all of those techniques are 

585
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,280
basically what cults love to do.
So if you think about it, what 

586
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,080
do cults do? 
They want to convince somebody 

587
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,720
to give up whatever their 
current beliefs are in order to 

588
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,720
take on some kind of new set of 
values, right? 

589
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,160
And I mean, one of the most 
common ways that people fall 

590
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680
into cults is like, you know, 
they move from 1 country to 

591
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,200
another or something. 
And because they feel like a 

592
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,200
fish out of water, they want to 
adapt to their surroundings as 

593
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120
quickly as possible. 
So anybody can be kind of like 

594
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640
you want to fit in, come here 
and they can pretty much take 

595
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,080
you to a meeting and next thing 
you know you are a nappy head 

596
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,840
hippie somewhere, you know it on
a compound doing something or 

597
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,240
the other. 
I mean, that sounds ridiculous, 

598
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,720
but it really does happen. 
So I mean, I even dealt with a 

599
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:53,400
case couple years ago where this
lady heard next door neighbors 

600
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:57,640
kidnapped her and shipped her 
off to a compound in Guyana. 

601
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,240
And she was in Canada. 
Holy cow. 

602
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,800
Yeah. 
And, And it was like, I was 

603
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,840
like, so she basically almost 
got Jonestown again. 

604
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:13,120
But you know, brainwashing in 
itself is that thing like we're 

605
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,760
probably going to see it happen 
again in November when a 

606
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,760
different color party takes 
over. 

607
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,320
Because I think that's where 
we're heading with that Trump 

608
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480
thing. 
And all of the stuff that's 

609
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,880
happening now with like the 
people wearing the stupid stuff 

610
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,760
on the ear, the ear bandage or 
whatever, all that's a sign that

611
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,160
those people have been 
brainwashed. 

612
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Basically, you get coerced into 
playing along, you know, going 

613
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360
go along to get along. 
And so they start to usher in a 

614
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,040
certain new set of rules and 
ideas and stuff whenever a new 

615
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,920
political party takes over. 
But essentially the people who 

616
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,680
buy and let's say like a 
political cult is the same thing

617
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,600
as the Mormons or whatever. 
You have to get people to be 

618
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,720
separate from everything that 
they know, and that causes a 

619
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,400
different emotional state to 
open them up and make them 

620
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,200
susceptible to taking in new 
concepts and commands. 

621
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,080
If you are vulnerable, like 
let's say you're, I don't know, 

622
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,880
you just got out of a bad 
relationship or something and 

623
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,040
you move to a new country to get
away from it and you're scared 

624
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,280
and paranoid and you don't know 
anybody, then you're going to be

625
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,760
willing to let anybody that's 
nice to you be your friend 

626
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,760
because you just want to get in 
there, right? 

627
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:50,880
And I mean, it's difficult, it's
difficult to list like the never

628
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,440
ending commands and stuff that 
people use because it's all the 

629
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,400
same thing. 
And because all behavior is just

630
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,840
reward based. 
Rewards are what are used to 

631
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,760
reinforce the brainwashing, 
right? 

632
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:10,680
So not every case requires you 
to be in isolation. 

633
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,440
As we can see, social media has 
made it so that you isolate 

634
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600
yourself mentally. 
But you could be in a room with 

635
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,080
a bunch of people just doom 
scrolling and the cult can be 

636
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,400
talking to you from the other 
side of the screen, right? 

637
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,800
So once a person is in that 
susceptible state of isolation, 

638
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,360
so to speak, their sense of self
breaks down and you begin to 

639
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:42,600
lose yourself and you begin to 
lose any willpower that you have

640
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
that would make you feel 
comfortable enough to actually 

641
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,840
take a look at what's going on 
inside of you, right? 

642
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,960
And so you begin to rely on 
external input and commands from

643
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,280
whoever is the perceived 
authority. 

644
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,680
That's why the God stuff works 
so well. 

645
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,240
That's why people can come up 
with so much false God stuff. 

646
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,320
And it works like gangbusters 
every time because people are 

647
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,360
wired to have a faith in 
something. 

648
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,000
You know, you, if you don't have
a faith in something, you will 

649
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560
actually begin to die. 
They've discovered that that 

650
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,960
happens in atheists. 
They begin to shut down, you 

651
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,480
know, like very slowly. 
So you can get people pretty, 

652
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,400
pretty easy if all you do is 
just break down the self and 

653
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,760
break the identity of that 
person. 

654
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
And that causes them to be open 
to a new identity. 

655
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,640
And if you notice, like a lot of
cults and stuff, a lot of it's 

656
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,800
just like opinions and stuff or 
to insult and stuff. 

657
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000
And they just attack you. 
They attack whatever sense of 

658
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600
self that you have and they 
attack your core beliefs. 

659
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960
And that's what they do. 
They, they gas like you, 

660
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,080
manipulate you, cuss you out if 
they have to because they're 

661
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,080
just demonic. 
Honestly, there's no other word 

662
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,960
for it than that, you know? 
And you know when when they 

663
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,240
finally wear you down, then 
that's when they got you, you 

664
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,240
know, And for a lot of people, 
it doesn't even take a lot to 

665
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:09,600
get mentally exhausted and get 
confused that you just begin to 

666
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,000
accept these ideas. 
You know, like even people who 

667
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,760
aren't. 
Because there's elements of 

668
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,640
guilt and shame. 
It's like, OK, well, I don't 

669
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640
want to abandon my friend who I 
love, right? 

670
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,320
So I feel guilty if I stick with
my morals and my values. 

671
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,320
So I'll continue to to take on 
this person's new ideas or 

672
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,480
whatever the case is. 
And that's how they get you too,

673
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,760
because it's eating away at your
identity. 

674
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,400
And guilt and shame have always 
been used historically to 

675
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600
convince people that they're bad
people. 

676
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,320
And it doesn't matter. 
It could be a big thing or it 

677
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,040
could be a small thing that they
attack. 

678
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,600
But once you get somebody to 
reach a point of shame, they're 

679
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,760
pretty much going to go along 
with whatever the solution to 

680
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,920
that is, you know? 
And I'm sure you can identify 

681
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,160
with the self betrayal aspect of
it. 

682
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,360
The self betrayal, yeah. 
The this whole story is really 

683
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,720
resonating with me because this 
is a lot what happened to my my 

684
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:15,760
kid is she met a guy after a 
horrible violation on her. 

685
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,480
She had a terrible thing 
happened to her and she didn't 

686
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,520
date after that. 
But that a pilot did that. 

687
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,040
And the first guy she dates 
after this happened Is this 

688
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,520
pilot, a new pilot. 
And you know, he's cut her off 

689
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,200
from everybody. 
He says it's not him. 

690
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,840
He, me and her were best 
friends. 

691
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,320
The next thing I know, I'm 
basically the Antichrist. 

692
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,840
He's moved her away, cut off all
ties with everything, and none 

693
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,040
of us saw her again for five 
years, not even the people she 

694
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,400
stays in touch with that have 
tried. 

695
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,040
Right. 
Like, I, I want to come there 

696
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,880
when you have a baby. 
I want to come there. 

697
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,720
But it was just like, oh, yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

698
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,800
Oh, sorry. 
No, you know, And then next 

699
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,280
thing we know, she's saying 
weird things to people. 

700
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,520
Like, you wouldn't even know me 
anymore. 

701
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,720
I'm a completely different 
person. 

702
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,560
And I, I truly believe that's 
probably true, you know? 

703
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,120
And. 
Now, now she has a new identity.

704
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,560
It's so weird to watch from the 
sideline. 

705
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,880
You know, I'm not even in the 
middle, 'cause I'm cut off, 

706
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
'cause I'm noisy. 
See, you didn't want me around 

707
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,640
'cause I'm not the one like I, I
would be like, no you. 

708
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Know. 
And I think he clearly saw that 

709
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,800
quickly out of the gate and was 
like, oh, your mom is. 

710
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,120
I pulled her credit in her 
background check and and she 

711
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,200
used to sell drugs. 
I'm a nurse, dude. 

712
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Like my fingerprints are 
uploaded to the FBI. 

713
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,120
They're pretty sure about me, 
unlike you. 

714
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Like sorry, sorry. 
I have to do checks and 

715
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,120
balances. 
Like they're not just going to 

716
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,400
let people around, old people or
young mentally ill people, 

717
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,880
whatever. 
You know, they do these 

718
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,440
extensive background checks. 
So, but it didn't matter what I 

719
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,520
said or how I said it. 
It did not matter it it was like

720
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,360
it was true even though I could 
prove it wasn't true, right? 

721
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,840
It was very strange. 
Yeah. 

722
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,480
It's interesting how being in a 
relationship with a narcissist 

723
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120
or a psychopath is exactly like 
being in a cult. 

724
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,720
Yeah, so weird. 
Yeah, 'cause they have to. 

725
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
They like, yeah, they have to, 
like, manipulate you, and they 

726
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,520
have to triangulate all the 
people around you to make you 

727
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,280
convinced, you know, that 
everybody's out to get you or 

728
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,560
that you're under, like, the 
threat of physical harm or some 

729
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
other kind of immediate danger, 
even though you don't. 

730
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,200
They don't even have to, like, 
outright threaten you or 

731
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,160
anything. 
You just have to have this 

732
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,280
internal feeling that something 
bad is going to happen if you 

733
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,920
don't give up your old identity,
you know? 

734
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Right. 
Yeah, she did too. 

735
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,400
She came here and cleaned out 
her, like all her prom things, 

736
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,880
like anything that meant 
something that she'd been 

737
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,760
holding on to, Like she just. 
Got to discard that close 

738
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,360
friends and family. 
Bye bye. 

739
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Yeah, it was so weird to me. 
And now she very first saw her, 

740
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,680
her brothers and sisters for the
first time in five years. 

741
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Of course, I can't be around or 
come because I'm on the no no 

742
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,040
list. 
But they said it was nice to see

743
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,160
her, but she wasn't available. 
Like, they could feel it. 

744
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,200
It was different, you know, It 
wasn't the same person. 

745
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:48,320
They knew like very much 
changed, closed off and you just

746
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,560
don't expect that from somebody 
that you know so well, you know?

747
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,720
Yeah. 
Very weird. 

748
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,720
But it's rampant. 
It is rampant out there. 

749
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,880
It is. 
It's just unbelievable. 

750
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,000
And I've seen a lot of clients 
and stuff that are coming out of

751
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,120
those cult like relationships 
they're in, you know, in deep 

752
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,280
with a narcissist or something. 
And they don't even know 

753
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,680
anything about brainwashing or 
programming or mind control or 

754
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,120
anything like that. 
So they don't see the 

755
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,240
correlation between things. 
I work with a lot of she thinks 

756
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,280
she's. 
Her savior? 

757
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,440
Yeah, she thinks he's the best 
thing since. 

758
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Sliced bread, you know, and 
codependency on that level. 

759
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,640
There's something in that 
person's subconscious that makes

760
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,920
them a slave in the 1st place. 
And, you know, in certain 

761
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120
instances, I don't want to give 
any personal details of anybody,

762
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:47,040
but they've had abuse in the 
past or it's been like things 

763
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,560
that they've witnessed on TV or 
things that they witnessed 

764
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,920
within the family system that 
they just kind of emotionally 

765
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,320
identified with that and it 
broke them so that later on in 

766
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,240
their lives they became 
codependent. 

767
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,720
And it happens to little girls 
too. 

768
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:06,400
Like when we jokingly say daddy 
issues, that's a real thing that

769
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,000
it's essentially a form of 
brainwashing where your your 

770
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,600
father has abandoned you and 
you're craving for that father 

771
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,680
figure. 
That's literally that happened. 

772
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,600
Yeah, literally that was the 
situation as well. 

773
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,440
And I'm such a strong person 
that I always told my girls 

774
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,000
like, you don't act like that. 
You you pick yourself up and you

775
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,480
you do what you got to do. 
You go to school, you make sure 

776
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,200
you're independent, you know, 
all these things. 

777
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,880
Even if you do stay home and be 
a stay at home mom, you make 

778
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,320
sure right? 
You But but that wasn't well 

779
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
received. 
It was like an attack. 

780
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,080
Like, oh, you're saying we might
get divorced? 

781
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,320
I'm like, Nah, I'm just saying 
shit happens. 

782
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,880
You know what I mean? 
Like whatever, like people die, 

783
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,240
people get sick, people other 
problems than divorce. 

784
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,320
And it was just strange to watch
from the sidelines. 

785
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,800
I'm still watching from the 
sidelines. 

786
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Because when you're the person 
that wants to help these people,

787
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,560
you can't get involved 'cause it
makes it worse. 

788
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,080
I mean, they, it's their 
journey, right? 

789
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,000
You're just there if they 
finally need help and come to 

790
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,160
you, you know? 
Yeah, you can be the hard 

791
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,360
trooper. 
Yeah, I want to. 

792
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,840
Yeah, unfortunately, you just 
can't want more for somebody 

793
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,320
than what they want for 
themselves. 

794
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,800
You can't make them learn. 
Life lessons, like wisdom is not

795
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,400
something that you can really 
impart. 

796
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,280
You can just talk about it, but 
until you experience it, you 

797
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,280
figure it out for yourself. 
You don't know anything. 

798
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:40,080
Yeah, and if you go and act like
that, like the stormtrooper mom,

799
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,400
then you're as crazy as they say
you are. 

800
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,520
So exactly. 
Exactly. 

801
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Can't play with a narcissist. 
You can't. 

802
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,440
You can't engage it. 
It's just not a thing. 

803
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,080
You just have to wait, you know?
You know, that's where like in 

804
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
my personal life, I've kind of 
become the personality where if 

805
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640
I know somebody's a narcissist, 
I, I pretty much choke him out 

806
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,960
in the first chance I get. 
I tell him, I tell him I will 

807
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,920
cut you in front and God in 
everybody, but don't play with 

808
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,920
me. 
You're like, don't mess with me.

809
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,280
And they back off, yeah. 
And they back off, Yeah. 

810
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,360
This one was sneaky. 
He was so, so smooth, really 

811
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,360
impressive, actually really 
impressive for a young kid cause

812
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,080
but also I should have noticed 
some of the signs like really 

813
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,120
big overachiever and this and 
that. 

814
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Like, I mean, there's things 
there that not all the 

815
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,920
attributes are negative. 
That's the problem. 

816
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,440
People see them as, wow, look at
this great person. 

817
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,240
You know, they're such a great 
guy and I'm just. 

818
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
I'll jump in right here and I'll
tell everybody there's something

819
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,440
called a hair test HARE, and 
it's a psychological tool. 

820
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,560
You can get it online. 
You can just Google it honestly,

821
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,120
and it should take you to a page
where you can take that test. 

822
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,640
It's like 10 questions or 
something and you can basically 

823
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,960
be like, OK, is this person that
I'm thinking of a psychopath or 

824
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,480
a narcissist or whatever, 
anything you can take that test 

825
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,840
and you can be like, oh, shoot, 
I gotta, you gotta get out of 

826
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,840
this situation. 
Yeah, yeah. 

827
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,360
But yeah. 
Yeah, sometimes they're in so 

828
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,960
deep now she's had a baby and 
they're married and yeah, so at 

829
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,080
this. 
Point Yeah, it's gonna be a long

830
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,360
time. 
Yeah, it's gonna be a long time 

831
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,160
before she realizes anything, 
because now that baby is gonna 

832
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,520
completely pull her deeper than 
ever before, you know? 

833
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Yep, and it's already been five 
years and I just never could 

834
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,400
imagine this life like how it is
'cause she was so close to me. 

835
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,840
And I just step back and go like
this is so crappy and and you 

836
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,480
want to, like I said, be crazy 
and go save the day. 

837
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,880
But the problem is she doesn't 
want saved. 

838
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,920
You know, you can't save someone
if they are happy where they 

839
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,080
are. 
I mean, it's just not saving to 

840
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
her, you know. 
And so I don't. 

841
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,720
I just told her one time. 
I finally got to talk to her 

842
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:08,440
once and I just said my door is 
always open. 

843
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,160
You know that I love you. 
I I'll always love you. 

844
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,360
It doesn't matter. 
Doesn't matter what's happened 

845
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,800
or what what will happen. 
I'm your mom. 

846
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Moms don't quit, you know. 
Yeah, that's about all you can 

847
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,480
do. 
Yeah, Yep. 

848
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,440
And so for the never 
underestimate yeah, going 

849
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,400
through this, check out that 
test, he said. 

850
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,720
Because. 
Yeah, because a lot of times we 

851
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,520
tell ourselves that the person 
all, you know, that's just 

852
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,320
because of something that 
happened or, you know, maybe 

853
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,520
they're not really being that 
way. 

854
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,560
Maybe they're just, you know, 
that's just a coincidence or 

855
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,200
whatever. 
We self justify other people's 

856
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,520
behavior just as much as we do 
our own shitty behavior. 

857
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,320
And that's how we get caught. 
You know, it's not that we don't

858
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:53,960
see the signs, but yeah, where 
was I was at self betrayal? 

859
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,880
That's like the middle of the 
whole thing. 

860
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,080
So from the self betrayal, they 
usually try to get you to reach 

861
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,960
a breaking point. 
And that breaking point is that 

862
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,400
part of the journey where the 
person is beginning to question 

863
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,240
themselves. 
Now they're self justifying 

864
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:15,200
more. 
They're in a identity crisis. 

865
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Who am I, where am I? 
What am I supposed to do? 

866
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,640
And behind all that is the shame
and the guilt. 

867
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,920
A lot of it is usually heading 
to some type of mental 

868
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,400
breakdown, but not maybe not in 
the sense that it would I expect

869
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
it to be. 
But there's so much fear and 

870
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,720
anxiety and depression and 
frustration and stuff that by 

871
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,520
that time that person is only 
looking for a solution. 

872
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,080
And like in that situation, we 
were just talking about the 

873
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,560
narcissist who was giving you a 
solution. 

874
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,680
You know, let's just run away 
and forget about all your 

875
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,240
family, you know? 
Yep, Let's just be under my. 

876
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,640
I'll give. 
You everything you want if you 

877
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,040
just do what I say. 
Yeah. 

878
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,360
And so the solution is usually 
the last step. 

879
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,960
And in conventional 
brainwashing, it's always going 

880
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,040
to be a sacrifice of values and 
beliefs in yourself concept. 

881
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,280
That's essentially where 
everything begins and ends with 

882
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,760
giving up all that for something
new. 

883
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,840
And it's, you know, a lot of 
it's ridiculous stuff to be 

884
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,480
honest with like exit 
counseling. 

885
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,000
It's so difficult because when 
people are trying to get away 

886
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,240
from a cult, the only thing that
you can do is like put push them

887
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,440
towards something like of the 
religious nature for them to 

888
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,120
self realize on their own and 
start to put themselves in a a 

889
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,680
similar but slightly different 
space, if that makes sense, 

890
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,200
where they can begin to self 
reflect one very small fraction 

891
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:03,480
of information at a time so that
they can process. 

892
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Because a lot of the times there
with the sense of self being 

893
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,760
broken down, they begin to 
become fragmented. 

894
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,520
You know, and it takes a really 
strong person to be like, you 

895
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,360
know what, screw this, I'm done 
and walk away from that. 

896
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:22,320
So because you have, whether 
it's the cult of disempowerment 

897
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,200
that is society screaming at 
you, I can help you, or if it's 

898
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,960
a mental health cult and it's 
like, you know, it's OK to not 

899
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,920
be OK. 
That's the catch phrase. 

900
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,360
You know, they're convincing you
that being disempowered is 

901
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,120
empowering somehow. 
You know, you can trust me. 

902
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,040
It's usually that kind of 
language that the narcissist or 

903
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,560
an evil person in society or the
politicians or whoever, you 

904
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,120
know, the cult leader is, that's
what they're using to keep you 

905
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,280
there and to keep you from ever 
trusting your intuition because 

906
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,240
they want all of you. 
They want all of your trust. 

907
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,160
And they want to get you to 
admit that the way that you 

908
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:11,800
acted before you were near them 
or believe in their lies is 

909
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,120
wrong. 
You know, and that's just it. 

910
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,480
It's, you see a lot of beating 
down and and broken people out 

911
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,200
there in society and you just 
kind of know that something, 

912
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,160
something happened to them that,
yeah, that the present version 

913
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,560
of themselves is a new self, so 
to speak. 

914
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,680
That they've taken on some 
emotional upheaval and they're 

915
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,760
now wearing a label, a new 
identity, a new set of beliefs 

916
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,480
just to get by, you know? 
So it's, it's not just like I'm 

917
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,480
trying to tie everything that 
goes on out there together with 

918
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,760
this, because people don't 
really understand that 

919
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,800
brainwashing is such a broad 
thing and it's happening to 

920
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,320
pretty much everybody. 
Everybody's brainwashed by 

921
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,960
something and it's a long road 
out of hell, so to speak. 

922
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Yeah, for sure. 
And, and some of us are born 

923
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,640
into it, much like I was, Like 
I, I can't even, you know, 

924
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,080
identify a time where I didn't 
believe it until I was so old 

925
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,240
that I could finally see, you 
know, but it took so long, you 

926
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:20,280
know, once you're born in. 
And that's why the FBI and the 

927
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,440
CIA come to Utah to recruit 
often because they always want 

928
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,840
to say, well, it's because they 
the Mormons don't drink and they

929
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,960
don't, you know, party and they,
they don't do drugs and they 

930
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
don't do this and that. 
So they're clean cut and they 

931
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,880
can trust them. 
No, that's not why. 

932
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,560
No, they're. 
Not. 

933
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,800
Yeah, 'cause they're not doing 
it too yamish so. 

934
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,720
Yeah, exactly. 
And they want the people that 

935
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:47,000
have already been started down 
that MK Ultra trail, right? 

936
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,320
Like, oh, half the job is 
already complete. 

937
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,680
I just gotta pop my little two 
cents in there, you know? 

938
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,360
The MK Ultra trail is another 
thing, because that's all a part

939
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,240
of the grand design as well. 
Where, you know, caffeine was 

940
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,240
used in the MPK Ultra 
experiments and so they 

941
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,640
convinced us to drink it like 
crazy because it'll make us 

942
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,040
better somehow at things. 
When caffeine's really a, a 

943
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,960
poison. 
It's a, a pesticide in itself. 

944
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,560
It creates its own pesticide to 
kill the bugs that land on it 

945
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,800
and to kill all of the plants 
that compete with it in the 

946
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,080
space that it is growing in. 
And so we put poison into our 

947
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,560
bodies trying to avoid the 
pesticides in the food, and we 

948
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,440
go and drink a cup of coffee and
negate all that, you know, and 

949
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,160
it deactivates the brain. 
And So what would you do if you 

950
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,200
were a world controller and you 
wanted to get billions of people

951
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,480
under your control? 
Give them something that makes 

952
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,280
them have the perception of 
feeling good, that actually 

953
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,560
turns the brain activity down to
nothing after 10 minutes of 

954
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,000
drinking it. 
And then tell him it's good for 

955
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,600
you. 
Tell him drink 8 cups a day 

956
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,160
because the study that we paid 
for says it's good, right? 

957
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,960
And then they go along with 
whatever. 

958
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,960
So there's just all this 
different stuff in society that 

959
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,440
we're taught that we think is 
good for us or it's fun or, you 

960
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,760
know, it's helping us somehow 
and it's really not. 

961
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,960
You know, the same thing goes 
for like marijuana and stuff. 

962
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,800
They're only now starting to 
really be honest about the 

963
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,000
effects of that on the brain, 
especially the hippocampus and 

964
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
things like that. 
And, you know, destruction that 

965
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,680
it's done and what it it does to
keep people from, I guess, 

966
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,800
becoming the best version of 
themselves that they can be 

967
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:41,080
because they just get goofy. 
That's the best they get like. 

968
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Really not as striving. 
I feel like everybody that I've 

969
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,080
known that's had a really hard 
addiction to it, you know, they,

970
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,440
they just want to chill, you 
know, it becomes this chilling 

971
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,320
thing for a long time. 
Not that they can't accomplish 

972
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
things at all. 
I'm not saying that, but it I 

973
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,440
definitely think everything has 
to have a balance. 

974
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,840
Like you cannot be dependent on 
anything. 

975
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,240
I don't care if it's water, even
water can kill you if you drink 

976
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,840
too much of it. 
So. 

977
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,560
You know, we have to have 
balance. 

978
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,040
We. 
Have to, yeah, it's all the 

979
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,920
social pressure and stuff too, 
'cause mass manipulation pretty 

980
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,360
much depends on social pressure 
to ensure that the control 

981
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,560
mechanisms are in place, you 
know, and we see, we see what 

982
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,400
happens out there, like people 
will police each other, right, 

983
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Because they. 
The subconscious mind is looking

984
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,240
for safety and it loves the 
feeling of safety in the herd, 

985
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,880
it wants to emulate the common 
behavior in the environment. 

986
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,200
So whatever other people are 
doing, you automatically want to

987
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,480
do that too. 
And it's really hard to break 

988
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,200
out of that because 95 to 99% of
your thinking, depending on how 

989
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,280
strong you are, I mean an extra 
4%, it's not really great, is 

990
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,400
it? 
So you know, you're pretty much 

991
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,280
screwed. 
So I think that people, the 

992
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,560
biggest mistake that people make
with self sabotage is and not 

993
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,640
understanding exactly how 
powerless we are to a lot of 

994
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,360
different things. 
As soon as you realize that you 

995
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,440
can so easily give up your power
to something, and somebody can 

996
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,520
so easily manipulate you, and 
you realize that as smart as you

997
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,960
are, as much as you've 
accomplished in your life, 

998
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,760
there's still so much more that 
you don't know than what you 

999
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,800
actually know, especially about 
yourself, then you know there's 

1000
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,920
a lot to be said. 
Oh yeah, there's always 

1001
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,040
learning. 
Once you know everything, you're

1002
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,840
in trouble because it's just not
the way life goes. 

1003
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,920
It all could change tomorrow 
because the situation changes, 

1004
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,000
right? 
We all have to adapt and change 

1005
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,160
and learn and learn. 
Until you pass away, honestly, 

1006
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,880
you're never going to know it 
all, hopefully, because then 

1007
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:09,080
there's no point. 
It takes away the value of 

1008
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,880
learning. 
And that's, that's sad. 

1009
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,000
So anything else that you want 
to share with us today? 

1010
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,280
I don't know, ask me more 
questions, I'll share more. 

1011
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,920
All right, let me look. 
Those were the ones I wrote down

1012
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,720
'cause I wasn't sure how long we
would interpret. 

1013
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,120
You know, sometimes I go off on 
tangents, as you all see. 

1014
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,400
Then I go on the weeds and keep 
going. 

1015
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,440
I'm enjoying it. 
We should hang out more. 

1016
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,320
I like it. 
How about this hijacking and 

1017
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,760
parasitic entities? 
That was scary. 

1018
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,960
Well, consciousness hijacking is
a scary thing. 

1019
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,880
I mean, I've had people with 
entity attachments in the 

1020
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,120
straight up yelled at me because
they were making a breakthrough.

1021
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,720
You know, when these entities 
attach themselves, they're 

1022
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,120
attaching themselves to a 
version of you that exists in 

1023
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,320
the quantum field, if that makes
sense. 

1024
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,880
Because they can't, they, they 
have to do it in that way in 

1025
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,960
order to make themselves 
manifest in this realm. 

1026
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:20,280
Even the Bible says that, right?
So it's difficult to deal with 

1027
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,560
those things because many times 
it's kind of like having a 

1028
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,920
narcissistic relationship where 
the person is codependent on 

1029
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,080
that demon, those voices in 
their heads telling them what to

1030
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,000
do. 
And it he often times it's a lot

1031
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,200
of paranoia that you have to 
wade through. 

1032
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,760
And it's a lot of fear that you 
have to wade through. 

1033
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,800
And yeah, I can usually tell 
when somebody has an issue like 

1034
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,320
that because first of all, they 
won't want to pay for the 

1035
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,560
service. 
It'll be like pulling teeth. 

1036
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,880
Secondly, they question 
everything that you say and 

1037
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,920
they're afraid to do certain 
things and like they will never,

1038
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,920
ever do certain things that you 
say. 

1039
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,800
A lot of it, when it's drug 
related, a lot of that's like 

1040
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,400
entity stuff. 
And I think somebody will wake 

1041
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,120
up. 
I had a client years ago, she 

1042
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,600
just called me up and she was 
like, I don't know what 

1043
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,520
happened, but I woke up in a 
crack then and now I'm in the 

1044
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,760
hospital and I was like, OK then
well, that was interesting turn 

1045
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,320
of events for you. 
But she had no recollection 

1046
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,480
whatsoever. 
And often times people do things

1047
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,920
on autopilot and they just don't
even know that they did it. 

1048
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,200
And that's what keeps them from 
getting any better because these

1049
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,160
things will talk to them. 
And like, they will start 

1050
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,040
displaying like schizophrenic 
tendencies. 

1051
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,640
And they'll be thinking that 
when they enter a room that 

1052
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,560
everybody's talking about them 
or that their boyfriend or 

1053
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,720
girlfriend or husband or wife is
cheating on them or saying 

1054
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,440
things about them behind their 
back or all these different 

1055
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,600
made-up scenarios. 
So it's the most common ones. 

1056
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,280
It's insidious because they get 
on you through the death 

1057
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,440
rectangles too, because it's, 
it's a lot of this content 

1058
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,000
lowers your frequency. 
Again, it's targeting your 

1059
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000
limbic system. 
And so the first step to that is

1060
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,520
lowering your frequency, 
disabling your your spiritual 

1061
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:13,520
seat and allowing those things 
to bind it to a part of your 

1062
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,720
soul. 
And you have to consent to it. 

1063
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,280
I guess you're sitting around. 
Yeah, if you're sitting around. 

1064
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,480
I mean, look, I'll be very 
explicit here. 

1065
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,840
Everybody loves stits, you know,
but if you, if you that's. 

1066
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:28,880
True. 
Even girls. 

1067
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,560
Yeah, if you can't stop looking 
at porn and stuff and and it's 

1068
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,040
like a compulsion to you. 
Yes, there's that addictive 

1069
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,960
thing going on, but then there's
also that part of you that says,

1070
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,960
hey, you know what? 
I haven't checked my Tumblr in a

1071
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,000
while, Let's go on there. 
Oh, look, 1000 porn gifts. 

1072
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Let's just look at all of them 
and they're like, you're just 

1073
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,400
smiling. 
You're like, oh man, tits are 

1074
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,760
great. 
And then you just keep going, 

1075
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,200
you know, like and you think 
that that's you that's doing the

1076
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,560
talking, but it's something 
that's pulling the strings. 

1077
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,840
Same thing happens with 
alcoholism and stuff like that. 

1078
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,040
There's so many components to 
alcoholism too. 

1079
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,120
That's like everybody's seen. 
For some reason, I haven't been 

1080
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,640
able to get away with posting 
it. 

1081
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,160
I've been slapped every single 
time throughout the years. 

1082
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,120
I've tried to post it but the 
concept of the body eating 

1083
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,320
spirit. 
You know, like everybody knows 

1084
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,840
by now. 
Or they should. 

1085
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Nobody. 
Yeah, like, like all these 

1086
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,080
different things that, that are 
out there and they're that, that

1087
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,800
is the scariest one because a, 
it's the hardest one. 

1088
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,880
It's the easiest 1 to get 'cause
it's not illegal unless you're 

1089
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,840
underage. 
And most of the time most kids 

1090
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,640
can even get around that. 
And then it's also the scariest 

1091
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:46,640
1 to detox people off of 'cause 
that's what I do as a nurse And,

1092
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:51,120
and it's really terrifying. 
You literally can die. 

1093
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,520
It is the one thing that we do 
not just cold Turkey people off 

1094
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,800
of. 
Like if you come in on meth, 

1095
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,760
we're like, there's your bed, go
sleep it off. 

1096
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,880
Like really that's what. 
And then we're going to help you

1097
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,440
and program and all those 
things, but we're not going to 

1098
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,760
do much else. 
Like you're not going to be 

1099
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,240
miserable or whatever, but like 
alcohol, that's a whole nother. 

1100
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,080
It's a whole nother thing. 
Yeah. 

1101
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,920
And as you would know, a lot of 
people aren't getting what they 

1102
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,880
need in terms of their 
nutrition. 

1103
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,120
So the detox process actually 
goes on for a long, long time 

1104
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,520
after that for alcohol where 
years passed by and those 

1105
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,280
cravens won't stop. 
And you know, you get a lot of 

1106
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:33,720
different, a lot of different 
thought processes will keep you 

1107
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,480
stuck. 
You know, like people will say, 

1108
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,800
oh, I just, I can't do anything 
about it because it's just my 

1109
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,880
body wants it. 
Or these are the things that 

1110
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,000
they used to justify. 
Yeah. 

1111
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,120
I'd be like, oh, I, you know, I 
don't have any control over it. 

1112
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,760
Or it'll say once I start 
craving it, I just don't have 

1113
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,800
any control over my behavior or 
my choices or anything like 

1114
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,960
that. 
When in fact, if you know that 

1115
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,480
you have a craving and you can 
become aware that you have a 

1116
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,160
craving, that's your point of 
power right there. 

1117
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,360
You just say no, right? 
That's what that's all about. 

1118
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,000
But, you know, people get angry 
and holler at you. 

1119
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,520
You know, sometimes you get a a 
demon voice like you don't know 

1120
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:19,840
what it's like or. 
You know, so true, it's so true.

1121
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,160
And I've seen, I've seen the 
difference when we get people in

1122
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:28,560
sometimes that are actually 
having a genetic problem like an

1123
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,080
illness versus an attachment. 
And I can tell every time 

1124
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,360
because and I didn't used to be 
able to, but now it's a lot 

1125
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,600
different. 
And as as I've just journeyed 

1126
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,600
through my own stuff, I can 
almost spot it. 

1127
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,040
But they'll always hate me. 
They'll hate me with the most 

1128
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,800
hate they've ever hated. 
And I'm like, I didn't even do 

1129
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,840
anything. 
I just walked in the room like 

1130
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,600
it doesn't matter. 
And the people at work will 

1131
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,480
laugh. 
They're like, jeez, he's like 

1132
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,040
crazy with you. 
What's the deal? 

1133
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,720
I'm like, I have no idea. 
Like, but I do. 

1134
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,480
But I just. 
It's your light. 

1135
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,680
It's your light. 
People at work. 

1136
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,480
Yeah, yeah, it's so it's true. 
Like your light scare will scare

1137
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,040
a lot of people with entity 
attachments and stuff. 

1138
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,520
But even if there's no 
attachment, like you were 

1139
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:21,120
saying, deliver has its own 
intelligence where it becomes 

1140
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,360
addicted to sugar and different 
things like that. 

1141
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,280
And so it wants to have the 
alcohol. 

1142
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,200
And as you know, the liver is 
linked to anger and stuff like 

1143
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,520
that. 
So some people will get really 

1144
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,000
nasty during the detox because 
of that very fact, you know? 

1145
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,040
Oh, yeah. 
And, and The funny thing is, is 

1146
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,160
to your point about nutrition, 
the things we give to them as 

1147
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,640
they come in, within 24 hours, 
we give them a vitamin B shot 

1148
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,200
and we give them magnesium. 
We have to because it's so bad 

1149
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,520
that it's it's like literally 
taking over everything in your 

1150
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,120
body. 
And it's so hard on people, like

1151
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,440
you can see somebody that's 
super young and you're like, Oh 

1152
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,720
my gosh, like they look 50. 
You know, it is a, that is a 

1153
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,440
hard wearing drug. 
And I know people have a hard 

1154
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,800
time with it 'cause some people 
can have a drink on Christmas, 

1155
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,080
so like New Year's Eve or 
whatever and never do it again. 

1156
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,920
And some people can't. 
And that's just the facts. 

1157
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,640
And you know which one you are 
by the time you're 20. 

1158
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,720
I think most people, I mean most
people that have had a drink or 

1159
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,040
two know by that time and you 
have to swear it off. 

1160
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,000
Like I feel bad that that's the 
case. 

1161
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,760
But if you know, and it could be
anything, not just alcohol, like

1162
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,359
whatever drug is your drug, you 
know what it is. 

1163
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,760
Yeah, I was one of the fortunate
ones. 

1164
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,560
Yeah, alcohol, whatever it is, 
drugs, it doesn't matter what. 

1165
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,800
Yeah, I was very fortunate. 
I'll tell you what I, I was 

1166
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,640
addicted to alcohol and then I 
started doing cocaine because it

1167
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,720
allowed me to drink more. 
So it wasn't an issue if there 

1168
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,560
was, there was no coke present 
as long as there was more 

1169
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,720
alcohol, right? 
You know, when you take the 

1170
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
coke, you, it wakes you up and 
you, you can keep drinking for a

1171
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,479
while. 
And so that's why I would do, 

1172
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,200
and I walked away from both of 
those things cold Turkey. 

1173
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,760
It never did me anything. 
And I, I think that I'm 

1174
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,240
extremely protected by some 
divine power because nothing, 

1175
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,760
yeah, nothing happened. 
And I mean, I smoked cigarettes 

1176
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,359
too. 
And I just kind of had a moment 

1177
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:25,040
where I was smoking it because, 
you know, you got to have 

1178
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,200
something when you stop those 
things. 

1179
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,359
And I kept smoking for a while. 
And then it, it was freezing 

1180
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,560
cold and I was outside smoking 
this damn cigarette. 

1181
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,000
And I'm like, this doesn't even 
taste good. 

1182
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,720
Why do I do this? 
I toss it on the ground. 

1183
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:44,120
And that never happened again, 
you know, So but you have to 

1184
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,279
want more for yourself. 
You have to be better than the 

1185
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:54,520
day before or you will 
definitely crumble and crash. 

1186
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,880
And people who are chronic self 
sabotagers, they spend most of 

1187
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,240
their time trying to continue 
doing the thing that they're 

1188
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,000
doing. 
And it's most, it's mostly self 

1189
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,400
sabotage that's coming from the 
subconscious. 

1190
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,360
And so it just wants more 
familiarity and that's all it 

1191
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,560
is. 
And people who use any 

1192
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,800
substance, it could be alcohol 
or anything else, they're 

1193
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,040
usually saying things like life 
is boring without using that's 

1194
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,400
the the the dialogue that's 
happening subconsciously or, or 

1195
01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:28,400
I. 
Can't handle this without. 

1196
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,400
You know I can't handle life 
without. 

1197
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,760
I can't function. 
Yeah, I can't function without 

1198
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,560
it. 
You know, this is the only way 

1199
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,320
to cope with the pain in my 
life. 

1200
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:41,040
A lot of people that come to me,
they just know that they're not 

1201
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,960
ready to stop, but they're ready
and they know that the language 

1202
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,400
underneath the surface is 
constantly tugging against them 

1203
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,200
every time they try to make a 
pull in the right direction. 

1204
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,160
And you know, we just talked 
about the people who blame their

1205
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,000
cravings and their urges, but 
there's just, there's people out

1206
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,000
there that really literally 
think that their life can't get 

1207
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,560
any better even if they stop 
using whatever it is. 

1208
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,320
And the same goes for sugar. 
That's how addictive sugar is, 

1209
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,240
because people will say these 
same things that like, life is 

1210
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,440
going to be depressing if I stop
eating sugar or, you know, you 

1211
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:21,200
know, a lot of people actually 
say stuff like their their 

1212
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,960
underlying belief is I don't 
deserve to be a good person. 

1213
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,080
I deserve to be healthy. 
You know, I don't deserve to 

1214
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:34,680
recover from drug abuse or my 
favorite is substance use is not

1215
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,960
a problem for me. 
And, you know, like one tooth is

1216
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:43,160
hanging on and and. 
You see it and you think and the

1217
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,400
ones that make me really sad and
I know you didn't know this, but

1218
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,160
it's my brother died of 
accidental overdose. 

1219
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,560
And it wasn't even, it was drug 
of choice. 

1220
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,120
It was kind of an accident, but 
he was definitely on a bad 

1221
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:02,760
pathway and just the right 
combination ended up very bad 

1222
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,480
for him. 
But he, he got to a point where 

1223
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:10,400
we everybody was convinced that 
he was doing better, right? 

1224
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:15,240
You get, you get these people 
that kind of will rally and then

1225
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,160
you really do believe they do it
for a while, but then they 

1226
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,280
sometimes slip back and then you
don't catch it in that moment. 

1227
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,560
And that's the dangerous time, 
right? 

1228
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,720
That's that, that's the scary 
time because that's the time 

1229
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,480
where accidents will happen 
because they jump back into 

1230
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:35,120
whatever they were doing at that
same level and then and then 

1231
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,920
that's just disaster. 
And because the root of the, the

1232
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,040
root of the addictive pattern of
thinking hasn't been addressed, 

1233
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,880
they've just been consciously 
willing it. 

1234
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,800
And you, you would have heard me
say all the time that all the 

1235
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,760
time in those podcasts that you 
listen to that you cannot 

1236
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,000
consciously overwrite. 
It's called the law of reversed 

1237
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,880
effect, where you cannot 
consciously overwrite 

1238
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,400
subconscious information. 
You get a little distance down 

1239
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,320
the road, but you will slide 
backwards, and that's what keeps

1240
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,720
people in an infinite loop of 
suffering, yeah. 

1241
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,280
Yep. 
It's just, and there's a 

1242
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,240
difference, sadly, I see a 
difference between. 

1243
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,440
So we get some people sometimes 
between necessary things and 

1244
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,880
addiction, right? 
Like we'll get like really old 

1245
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,400
people that have every bone in 
their body broken and they're 

1246
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,600
like, we're here to detox her 
off the two lortabs she takes a 

1247
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,120
day. 
And I'm like, that's weird. 

1248
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,800
She's like, it's a legit thing. 
This lady seems fine. 

1249
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:35,440
Like you can tell, you can tell,
you know, but also, and I'm not 

1250
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:38,480
saying like if you take 
medication that that's a bad 

1251
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,840
thing, but you know when it's a 
bad thing. 

1252
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,360
Like internally we all know what
it is. 

1253
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Like you said, like sugar or 
whatever relationships for that 

1254
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,320
matter, it doesn't matter what 
it is really. 

1255
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,760
You've got to get to the point 
where you're OK with saying, you

1256
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,240
know what? 
Yeah, I'm not. 

1257
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,720
I'm not doing whatever that is, 
despite whatever happens. 

1258
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,400
And that's scary. 
I think a lot of people are 

1259
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,840
afraid for that, right? 
Like that whole not fitting in 

1260
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,240
that whole, like whatever the 
case may be, you got to get to a

1261
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,560
point where you're really sick 
of it, basically. 

1262
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,000
Yep, when you are absolutely 
tired of being a screw up. 

1263
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,120
Yep. 
Yeah, and it's sad 'cause I see 

1264
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,120
it over and over with the people
I help. 

1265
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,200
We call them frequent Flyers, 
right? 

1266
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,600
And, and we'll get them back and
I'm like, see you next week, Joe

1267
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,240
or whatever. 
And, and it's not because you 

1268
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,760
don't want them to do well, it's
because you can see that there 

1269
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,640
hasn't been the internal change.
It's an internal thing. 

1270
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,160
It's not really about the doctor
or the medicine or, or anything.

1271
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:46,600
It's about the person. 
And when they've had enough, you

1272
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,240
can almost see it. 
You can almost see it in the 

1273
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,480
person, right? 
Like it's. 

1274
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:52,840
A change. 
When your desire to change is 

1275
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,520
greater than your desire to stay
the same, you will act 

1276
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,720
differently. 
You will move mountains. 

1277
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,680
Yes, so much and it always 
surprises me because I am a 

1278
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,720
person that has been around 
people my whole life, surrounded

1279
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,200
by addiction and I, I've always 
been the person that's like, 

1280
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,520
well, what the Hell's wrong with
you? 

1281
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,440
Like before I did mental health 
because I, I, that would be 

1282
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:19,800
terrible if I was doing that 
now, but I didn't understand 

1283
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,160
right 'cause I'm a lot like you.
I could just put it down and I 

1284
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,960
would be fine, You know, like it
doesn't matter to me, whatever 

1285
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,000
it is. 
But also, I think I've always 

1286
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,160
had a lot of internal fortitude,
I guess, to push through things 

1287
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:40,160
like whatever that that is. 
And so for me, it was different 

1288
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,360
than I would watch my brother 
and be like, what are you doing?

1289
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:45,080
Why are you doing this? 
What what? 

1290
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,280
Just stop it, you know, And that
doesn't help people, by the way.

1291
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:53,800
I learned a lot differently now.
But at the time you just don't 

1292
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,760
get it. 
But it's so weird how the one 

1293
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,200
person, they'll be like one or 
two people in a whole family 

1294
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:03,960
that won't, won't have that. 
And and they don't get it. 

1295
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,600
They're like clueless for a long
time about how to help anybody 

1296
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,480
and half the time we enable 
them. 

1297
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,600
But you know, it's just, it's 
hard to understand like, why, 

1298
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,200
why am I different? 
Why? 

1299
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,280
Why didn't that happen on my 
end? 

1300
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,120
You know what I mean? 
Like, and I don't know what that

1301
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,560
answer is. 
I wish I could help more people 

1302
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,760
that way. 
I don't know. 

1303
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:32,400
Yeah. 
It's hard. 

1304
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,680
It's hard to be those people 
too, you know, like I'm sure 

1305
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,320
when people say, oh, how'd you 
quit smoking? 

1306
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,600
And you say, I just stopped it. 
I just put it. 

1307
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,960
I just put it, They don't want 
to hear that. 

1308
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,000
They want to hear. 
Yeah, well, for a lot of people,

1309
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,040
they're they're they're, they're
still relying on self 

1310
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,440
justifications to get them 
through there every day. 

1311
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:53,440
So they don't want to hear that,
you know, you can just make a 

1312
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,080
choice. 
It's never that easy because 

1313
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,160
everything in their subconscious
is here towards telling them 

1314
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,280
that it's not that easy. 
That's probably a good place to 

1315
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,800
start looking if you want to 
really be honest about it. 

1316
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Start looking there because like
I said on a lot of shows that a 

1317
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:20,640
belief is like a table with four
legs and there's usually going 

1318
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,440
to be at least four things that 
are propping up this one belief.

1319
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,480
He might get to the root of that
belief and realize it's linked 

1320
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:29,880
to another belief and you have 
to go look somewhere else too. 

1321
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,680
Sometimes it can be very 
arduous. 

1322
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,480
People just kind of want it to 
be once and done, you know, And 

1323
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,960
that's, that's just not the way 
it works sometimes for a whole 

1324
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,480
year, you're working on stuff. 
Right. 

1325
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,400
And they want the easy way out. 
And sometimes there's just no 

1326
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,120
easy way out. 
And then they look at people 

1327
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,240
like you or I that just don't 
care about that stuff. 

1328
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,720
Like it doesn't matter to me if 
it, if I never had another drink

1329
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,840
again, I really don't care, you 
know what I mean? 

1330
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,760
Or if I ever, whatever the case 
may be, I just would like be OK,

1331
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,320
whatever. 
But they don't want to hear 

1332
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,480
that. 
They don't want to hear what 

1333
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,840
what we're talking about because
for them, like I said, it would 

1334
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,200
be like a 8 out of 10 people 
might have that problem and two 

1335
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,160
don't. 
So it's really we're the 

1336
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,560
minority and it's a scary 
situation because people die, 

1337
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,800
you know, and, and then the 
demonic part and the 

1338
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,400
generational part. 
But the thing about it is, is 

1339
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:31,280
you have to do the work. 
You have to, because my whole 

1340
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,720
life changed when I stopped 
looking at things the way I used

1341
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,720
to, the way I was bred to, bred 
into. 

1342
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,200
Yeah, basically. 
And a lot of people are like, 

1343
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,240
yeah, that's never going to 
happen to me. 

1344
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,720
But there I've had so many 
clients, so many clients that 

1345
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,560
were like, I don't know if this 
is from me. 

1346
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,880
I don't think I can do this. 
Or maybe after two or three 

1347
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,960
weeks, they start to chicken out
or whatever, and they start 

1348
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,440
dodging me. 
And then, you know, what happens

1349
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,280
to those people in a year's 
time? 

1350
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,880
They're a completely different 
person. 

1351
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,280
They went from rags to riches. 
And it's like some fairy tale. 

1352
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,440
They've met the perfect person. 
Or, you know, they have their 

1353
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,160
dream job or whatever the case 
is. 

1354
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,880
And they're like, I, I can't 
believe you talked me into it, 

1355
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,960
but somehow it worked out. 
And I'm like, yeah, I told you. 

1356
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,920
I told you. 
Like, it's not that hard. 

1357
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,720
You just got to apply yourself. 
Well, and we got to stop filling

1358
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,720
ourself up with other people's 
bullshit. 

1359
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,720
It, it's got to be about 
yourself, really. 

1360
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,120
And I hate to be that frank with
people that honestly, no one's 

1361
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,880
your Prince Charming. 
It doesn't matter if Prince 

1362
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,520
Charming is with you along the 
way. 

1363
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,360
You still have to do this 
yourself. 

1364
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,640
You, this has got to be about 
you. 

1365
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,080
You've got to start with 
yourself. 

1366
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,760
And then once you do, you'll, 
you'll change everything. 

1367
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,720
Like I went through my life 
after that whole thing happened 

1368
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,680
with my daughter. 
And I even apologize to people 

1369
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,560
that people were like, why would
you? 

1370
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,080
Why would you call your ex 
husband's ex-wife and talk to 

1371
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,520
her about something that 
happened 25 years ago? 

1372
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,120
And I'm like, because it was on 
my heart too. 

1373
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,840
Like when I was studying what I 
should do for myself, just about

1374
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,480
me to help me. 
That came up in my mind like 

1375
01:20:19,480 --> 01:20:22,240
this was not a good thing. 
You did, you know, and it's so 

1376
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,720
insignificant. 
It wasn't like I did something 

1377
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,120
super bad. 
It was stupid. 

1378
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,200
And she even said to me when I 
wrote her on Facebook, I found 

1379
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,560
her on Facebook and wrote her 
this message and she said, I 

1380
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,840
honestly can't believe you even 
sent this. 

1381
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,000
But I mean, thanks, like, I 
mean, I I wasn't worried about 

1382
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,600
it. 
You know, she was like, I'm 

1383
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,600
sorry this worried you. 
And I'm like, but that's the 

1384
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,760
point, right? 
It wasn't about her. 

1385
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,440
Yeah, exactly. 
They have to be willing to do 

1386
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,640
this stuff. 
You have to do it for yourself. 

1387
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Because I tell you what, 
everybody, even if they love 

1388
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,960
you, everybody's still only 
checking for themselves. 

1389
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,480
It's hard for a lot of people to
hear like, 'cause they, we want 

1390
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:06,920
to live in this weird fairy tale
where we're in love with the 

1391
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,720
perfect person. 
We're always on their mind and 

1392
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,320
they care only about us. 
But a lot of people are just 

1393
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,760
strictly about #1. 
Yeah, human, human behavior. 

1394
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,080
And like you, you know, I think 
it's sad. 

1395
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,400
I think that's sad in a way, but
I think that's real. 

1396
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,720
And I think the people that can 
tell, I think people know. 

1397
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,720
Just like I told you about the 
guy that hated me 

1398
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,080
instantaneously, People know 
when you've done the work. 

1399
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,360
And the two people that know the
most, and this is truth, people,

1400
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:45,680
dogs and babies. 
Dogs and babies feel energy like

1401
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,640
nobody I can ever see. 
Like they're not fooled by 

1402
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,360
anything. 
They're really not. 

1403
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,920
Or animals. 
I guess it doesn't. 

1404
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Happen. 
Yeah. 

1405
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,520
Animals know. 
Animals know. 

1406
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,120
Well, you met birdies, so you 
know, animals know. 

1407
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:04,240
Yes, and and they know it's 
like, you know, when they start 

1408
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,520
coming up to you in the middle 
of a, you know, store and 

1409
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,280
they're the seeing eye dog and 
you, they're not supposed to do 

1410
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,880
that. 
And you're like, go, go, you're 

1411
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,000
getting me in trouble, like, you
know, and or some of these kids 

1412
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,640
trying to come to you or 
whatever. 

1413
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,720
But like it's just about the 
light within. 

1414
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,400
And I really think that's that's
the whole point of why I do 

1415
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,920
this, because I want to share 
that so that other people can 

1416
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,320
have that too, because you can 
do it too. 

1417
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,480
I'm not like somebody special. 
He's not somebody that we can 

1418
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:35,800
all do it. 
We can all do this. 

1419
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,200
It's, it's weird. 
All of us have that we do. 

1420
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,440
And yeah, like you're very 
candid about what you went 

1421
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,000
through. 
Like, yeah, I used to do this 

1422
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,240
and this, like most people would
never say that or most people 

1423
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,480
would never say like me about 
the mom thing because, right, 

1424
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:54,120
the first thing that people 
think when I tell that is oops, 

1425
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,680
she's a bad mom. 
She's the problem. 

1426
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,880
She's the mom. 
She's you know, and and it's 

1427
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,240
hard to bury your soul like 
that. 

1428
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:07,600
But if it helps one person then.
Yeah, people don't understand 

1429
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:12,640
that there's no limits on what's
possible for them unless you 

1430
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:17,080
self disclose, right? 
And that's why it's always good,

1431
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,840
right? 
The shame's gone. 

1432
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,600
Yeah, it's all, it's always good
to say what you've been through 

1433
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,040
and and get very comfortable 
being like, OK, so I've been 

1434
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,600
saying this a lot. 
I'm not really into the 

1435
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,360
spiritual being having a human 
existence rhetoric. 

1436
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,000
To me, we're just here to be 
humans and we're here to learn 

1437
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,720
and be messy. 
While we're learning. 

1438
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,560
We're not supposed to be 
identifying with anything other 

1439
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:47,120
than who we are at the core. 
Yes, spirituality plays a huge 

1440
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,360
role in it, but your individual 
connection to God is what 

1441
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,600
matters the most. 
Nobody can come and hand you 

1442
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,960
spirituality and tell you how to
be. 

1443
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,960
You figure that out by being 
human, right? 

1444
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,480
And unfortunately, being human 
is hard. 

1445
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:08,080
It's not it's, you know, a lot 
of people, like I said, said at 

1446
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,440
the beginning of this podcast is
like we've all become 

1447
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:13,280
infantilized and we're waiting 
on the, the savior. 

1448
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,440
There's some savior complex 
where somebody's going to come 

1449
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:18,400
along and tell me exactly what 
to do. 

1450
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,800
They're going to give me the 
blueprint or the five steps or 

1451
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,320
whatever. 
And that's just not it. 

1452
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,000
Everybody is as unique as their 
own thumbprint and everybody's 

1453
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,600
path and and set of actions is 
unique to them. 

1454
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:37,320
And whenever I get a new client,
first two or three sessions is 

1455
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,400
just strictly about getting to 
know that person, getting to 

1456
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,680
know that person's heart and 
figure out where they've been, 

1457
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,480
what they've been through, what 
they haven't processed. 

1458
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,440
Because a lot of the time it's 
like a Jenga. 

1459
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,600
You pull out just the right 
thing and the whole thing 

1460
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,520
topples. 
And maybe they don't even need 

1461
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,480
to come to me for 6 to 12 weeks.
Maybe they just needed like two 

1462
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:56,240
or three. 
Maybe somebody just needed 

1463
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,320
somebody to talk to. 
I've seen that so many times. 

1464
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,240
Maybe somebody just needed 
someone to actually listen and 

1465
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,000
that made the biggest difference
in the whole world and they had 

1466
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,520
one cell or two self 
realizations and they were like,

1467
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,360
you know what? 
I've been screwing myself over 

1468
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:11,800
for a long time. 
I'm tired of this. 

1469
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,960
Don't settle. 
Yup, don't. 

1470
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:21,040
Don't settle and you know, I 
think I think it's so important 

1471
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,920
that those of us that have and I
think everybody has. 

1472
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,480
I just think some people lie 
about it. 

1473
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:30,680
The struggle, right? 
Like the The thing is, I always 

1474
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,840
look at the parable about the 
gold coins that Jesus gave to 

1475
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,120
everybody and the one guy, he, 
he hid his and he didn't do 

1476
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,040
anything with it. 
And what did Jesus say? 

1477
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,040
Get away from me. 
I never knew you right? 

1478
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,760
But that's our our life 
experiences. 

1479
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,400
I feel in my mind is we've all 
been through some shit. 

1480
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,080
Like, let's get real. 
Like nobody makes it out of this

1481
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,600
earth unscaped and none of us 
make it out alive. 

1482
01:25:54,720 --> 01:26:00,120
I have news for everybody. 
And so we have to think about 

1483
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,200
what you can do with what you 
have gone through and help 

1484
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,600
somebody else. 
Maybe you're going to help them 

1485
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,040
not have 10 more horrible 
experiences. 

1486
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,080
Maybe it won't work. 
Who cares? 

1487
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:14,040
That's their choice. 
Like you can only do what you 

1488
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,560
can do, you know, and you, you 
put it out there to help the 

1489
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,920
person and if it, and if they 
don't want help, you can't be 

1490
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,200
bitter about it either. 
You just have to go, OK, you 

1491
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:29,520
know, I mean, what do you do, 
you know, but people expect 

1492
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,200
things in return. 
That's not why you do it. 

1493
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,560
That's this is not the point. 
Yeah. 

1494
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,960
And so I feel like if we all 
just did that more and helped 

1495
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,040
each other more, it would be a 
really beautiful world. 

1496
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,600
And I think that's probably why 
you do this. 

1497
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,120
That's the feeling I get. 
That's definitely why I do this.

1498
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,040
And I just want to help people 
not be in a dark place that I've

1499
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,080
come out of before, you know, I.
That's just. 

1500
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,480
Not, not a healthy place for 
anybody, right? 

1501
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:01,000
None of. 
Us. 

1502
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,680
Yeah, it really is. 
Because when I was really in the

1503
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,360
thick of things, I looked around
and nobody wanted to hear my 

1504
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,080
problems and nobody wanted to 
help me. 

1505
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,400
And not even beyond that. 
Like, when I say it like that, 

1506
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,280
it sounds like maybe I was 
surrounded by all nasty people, 

1507
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,240
but they weren't. 
They just weren't there 

1508
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,840
themselves either. 
So they couldn't help me do 

1509
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,560
anything, you know? 
Yeah, they were maybe messed up 

1510
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,800
too. 
Like, I mean, you know, we're 

1511
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,760
all the blind leading the blind.
And same thing with parenting. 

1512
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,400
Kids always say, well, my 
parents let me down. 

1513
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:36,280
I have news for you. 
Your parents are, you know, 

1514
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:39,400
like, and they'll say we didn't 
ask to be born. 

1515
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,160
And I'm like, guess what? 
Neither did I, so that's all 

1516
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:47,600
irrelevant baloney. 
And we're in the reality of we 

1517
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,520
don't throw people away, right? 
We we have to get to the root of

1518
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,360
the problem. 
Like if you are mad at someone 

1519
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,760
and you just say you're a bad 
person, go away. 

1520
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,800
What did you fix? 
Nothing you. 

1521
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,480
Fixed nothing. 
You fixed 0 things and you 

1522
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:06,560
didn't even allow the person to 
give their side or anything like

1523
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,840
you just they're garbage to you.
That's that's terrible. 

1524
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,440
God doesn't do that. 
He doesn't make human garbage. 

1525
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:14,600
I'm sorry, that's not true. 
And even. 

1526
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:17,480
The less of them, what does God 
say? 

1527
01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:19,840
Even the least of them, they're 
his. 

1528
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,280
So I'm like, no, no, that's not 
how it's supposed to be, right? 

1529
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,200
Like, even if somebody was 
messed up and they listened you,

1530
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,120
I'm in that time frame, I'm sure
you would have been so grateful 

1531
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,360
even if they couldn't give you 
advice because they were messed 

1532
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,400
up too, right? 
Like if they just listened and 

1533
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,680
we're like, man, I know I'm 
screwed up too. 

1534
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:43,360
Like, yeah, you know, that's 
something, right? 

1535
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,520
That's better than nothing. 
Yeah. 

1536
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:49,320
Because none of us are there. 
I mean, I'm not a therapist. 

1537
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:51,400
You do things like this, but I'm
not a therapist. 

1538
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,280
Talk to him. 
Some of the most messed up 

1539
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,680
people I've ever met are 
licensed therapists. 

1540
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,880
They they've done 0 work. 
Yeah, probably holding. 

1541
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,040
All that. 
Too, They're all strictly 

1542
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,160
academic and they have no clue 
how to apply any of the stuff 

1543
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,880
that they were taught. 
But you know, then again, we're 

1544
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,040
right back at where we started, 
the mind control of the academic

1545
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,360
system. 
Exactly. 

1546
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,600
And you might have more to offer
than you really think you do. 

1547
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,480
Like like I mean, when you got 
into this, I'm sure this wasn't 

1548
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:26,400
probably the path you thought 
you would take, especially where

1549
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:30,320
you know the academic Rd. 
Wasn't the way, so you know you 

1550
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,280
led to something. 
You know you should. 

1551
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,680
Probably explore it right? 
Yeah, no, definitely not. 

1552
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,560
I mean I'm a beautiful long 
haired caramel colored man. 

1553
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,120
Just I was a rock and roller. 
My my shirt says it. 

1554
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,240
Oh, live the dream rock'n'roll. 
Yeah. 

1555
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:48,560
And there you go. 
My biggest problem is that I was

1556
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,280
succeeding at music and I met 
some of the nastiest people that

1557
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,960
you've ever you'll ever come 
across and, you know, some of 

1558
01:29:55,960 --> 01:30:00,160
the most sadistic, demonic 
people out there. 

1559
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,760
And it just really turned my 
stomach against going any 

1560
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,880
further. 
And I had a lot of help from 

1561
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:11,600
people who were like, you know, 
lawyers and, and people in 

1562
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,080
entertainment and stuff. 
And they're like, yeah, you 

1563
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,320
don't want no part of this, man.
Like, you're doing well and you 

1564
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:22,200
have the potential to get really
big, but not without losing 

1565
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,160
yourself. 
And I just kind of have to 

1566
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,920
figure out what losing yourself 
meant little by little. 

1567
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,040
And it took me a long time to 
accept that even though I'm 

1568
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,360
really gifted at music, the 
industry is not a place that I 

1569
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,440
belong in. 
And I started out doing it 

1570
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:42,280
because of the joy that it 
brought me and because of the 

1571
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,560
joy that I saw that it brought 
other people. 

1572
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,200
And then I kind of realized that
that was fake joy, too. 

1573
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,720
Like those people ain't happy, 
you know, so. 

1574
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,800
Even if you bring them joy, like
you said, it's the. 

1575
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,280
When they go home, they're not 
happy no more, you know? 

1576
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,600
So yeah, I essentially achieved 
nothing, yeah. 

1577
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,160
And the people you still did, I 
mean, I think it's still good, 

1578
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,560
but I think it's, I think you're
right. 

1579
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,680
I think the industry is a psyop.
You know, it's not real. 

1580
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,320
I mean, 'cause you can see 
people that have real raw talent

1581
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,520
good. 
Like why is this guy over here 

1582
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,440
with this good talent not as 
good as this person? 

1583
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:20,760
Maybe because his dad, like the 
doors, was an Admiral that 

1584
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,120
helped start a war. 
Oh, OK, that's cool. 

1585
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,360
You know, I mean like it's all 
fake. 

1586
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:33,560
It's all it's all ACIA psyop 
like the Grateful Dead or it's 

1587
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,000
demonic or whatever, you know 
these things. 

1588
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,360
And people don't believe it. 
They don't want to believe it. 

1589
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,520
And I'm. 
Like they would have to give up 

1590
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,480
their favorite tool for evasion 
of self, which is listening to 

1591
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:49,520
music. 
You when you create music, you 

1592
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,480
have to look at yourself. 
But when you listen to it, when 

1593
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,840
you consume it, you get to avoid
yourself all day long, right? 

1594
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,720
And I tell people, well, they're
like, well, what's the solution?

1595
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,840
If I can't listen to music, what
I do, then go buy a guitar. 

1596
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,920
You know, guitar centers 
everywhere. 

1597
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,440
Well, it used to be, I've heard 
they're shutting down now. 

1598
01:32:06,440 --> 01:32:09,920
But you know, you can go on 
Amazon and get something really 

1599
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,280
cheap and learn how to play and 
you'll learn a lot about 

1600
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,280
yourself in the process. 
Because as you pick up that 

1601
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,000
instrument, your, all your 
emotions and your suppressed 

1602
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,880
subconscious thinking comes to 
the surface. 

1603
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,400
And you have to look at that, 
you know, and you have to be 

1604
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,080
courageous enough to kind of 
figure out what's in there and 

1605
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,880
transmute that, turn that into 
something else. 

1606
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,680
And even if you want to listen 
to music, it can't be your God. 

1607
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,080
We're back to don't. 
It doesn't matter what it is. 

1608
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:44,440
It could even be podcast, it 
could even be whatever it is, it

1609
01:32:44,440 --> 01:32:48,080
cannot consume you or make you 
non productive. 

1610
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,000
That's the problem. 
It once you've given over your 

1611
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,280
because we all have talents, 
we're all made for something. 

1612
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,400
We're all supposed to do 
something and whatever that 

1613
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:02,080
something is, you're supposed to
like nurture that and do things 

1614
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:07,520
with it, like go do that, you 
know, But I think you're right. 

1615
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,080
I think some people have to take
a break from it all together 

1616
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:15,240
just to get out of that cycle of
doing that same thing every 

1617
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,320
single day. 
You know, it's programming. 

1618
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,120
We're right back to programming.
So I don't know. 

1619
01:33:22,440 --> 01:33:25,080
It. 
It's you know, silence is good 

1620
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,440
too. 
Or change things, learn things, 

1621
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,600
keep your mind active. 
You know, repetitive, repetitive

1622
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,680
things are not ever really great
either. 

1623
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,040
No, yeah. 
And everybody gets their 

1624
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,280
favorite playlist and then they 
play, oh, I'm just as guilty, 

1625
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,480
like those songs over. 
And, you know, and I just have 

1626
01:33:47,480 --> 01:33:50,040
withdrawn from even that. 
My husband laughs at me now. 

1627
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,440
He's like, what do you do when 
you work out? 

1628
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:55,480
I'm like, I learned things on 
podcasts or I read. 

1629
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,200
And he's like, wow, that's 
weird. 

1630
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,400
I'm like. 
Yeah, people tell me I'm weird 

1631
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,400
because I just, I just work out 
to silence. 

1632
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:08,760
And it's like what, you know, 
like I see all these people on 

1633
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,240
the beach. 
I go running on the evenings and

1634
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,920
stuff sometimes and they've 
just, they're trying to block 

1635
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,480
out nature. 
And it's like, why are you 

1636
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,040
wearing a pair of headphones and
running on the beach? 

1637
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,320
You should be listening to the 
waves. 

1638
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,000
But they don't want to, They 
don't want to be with 

1639
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,920
themselves. 
I have so many self realizations

1640
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,680
when I'm just out there by 
myself, you know, and just 

1641
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,400
running and people are 
operating. 

1642
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,480
That or in the mountains, you 
know, or wherever. 

1643
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:40,960
Like I'd love to listen to 
things like that. 

1644
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,880
And that's usually my happy 
place to go is because we don't 

1645
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,600
have a beach, we have mountains.
So we go to the mounts, yeah, 

1646
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,720
and get away from everything. 
But it's just a blessing. 

1647
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,320
And we have these things all 
over. 

1648
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,880
Wherever, whatever you're close 
to, then, you know, look at that

1649
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,120
or go travel if you can, or go 
see things or do things. 

1650
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,360
But what home to work, work to 
home is not. 

1651
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,240
That's not a life. 
Sometimes we have. 

1652
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,520
That, but you should have 
balance. 

1653
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,240
Yeah, I talk a lot about 
guarding consciousness, 

1654
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,480
especially where the the TV is 
concerned. 

1655
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:17,000
But the music, you, you, pretty 
much anything you have on a 

1656
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,440
playlist is there because you 
subconsciously agree with the 

1657
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:22,400
emotional content. 
Now, do you really want to 

1658
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,280
continue to reinstall the same 
old stuff and have the same 

1659
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,600
experiences, or do you want to 
have something new? 

1660
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,880
So when you take away all these 
vices from your life, you're 

1661
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,640
left with the bare bones and 
you're left with the stuff that 

1662
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,800
is going to lead you down the 
path of discovery all the time. 

1663
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,400
So you're not really going to 
get self improvement without 

1664
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:47,720
yourself, which is crazy. 
Everybody seems to think that. 

1665
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:52,040
Yeah, everybody seems to think 
those 4 letters are invisible, 

1666
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,120
you know, and they think it's 
going to be inside the next Tony

1667
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,920
Robbins book or the next webinar
or whatever, you know, the next 

1668
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,400
spiritual retreat and, or even 
in the same the pages of the 

1669
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,920
Bible. 
They think reading the same 

1670
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:08,280
scripture is going to change 
their life is no, you have to do

1671
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:12,560
something with that bozo, like 
go live your life. 

1672
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,200
Yeah. 
Use that. 

1673
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:19,680
Use that or or. 
I never read it anymore in order

1674
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,040
because I don't want to remember
that way, right? 

1675
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,040
Like I want a new thing, like 
you said, like a new discovery 

1676
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,600
for my life, because I always 
read it as the living word. 

1677
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,000
So if it's the living word and 
that's how God really has it for

1678
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,520
us, then I should be able to 
just flip it open and and see a 

1679
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,520
message for myself in there as 
well. 

1680
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,440
And I and people might not like 
that, but that's what I do. 

1681
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,520
And I mean, it's not heretical. 
I don't think it's still, you 

1682
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,160
know, it, it doesn't have to be 
an all day project either. 

1683
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,080
And that's where people don't 
even want to start anymore 

1684
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:57,000
because they're they're like, oh
gosh, that's terrible, you know,

1685
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,600
but it really doesn't have to be
you don't have to sit there for 

1686
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,520
hours either. 
I don't think that's what we're 

1687
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,280
supposed to do. 
It's it's supposed to be 

1688
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,160
enjoyable if you're doing it 
too. 

1689
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,720
So yeah, I think we have to look
within. 

1690
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,080
I think that's the perfect thing
that you said there. 

1691
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,640
We got to get to those bare 
bones. 

1692
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:19,600
So, and if you can't get to the 
bare bones and you do need help,

1693
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,800
then there's people just like 
Johan that can help you. 

1694
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:25,560
Right. 
I was going to say to you, 

1695
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,800
there's a really great book that
I read recently that was kind of

1696
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,400
like the same thing you were 
talking about. 

1697
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,720
Like, you just open it to 
whatever page and whatever you 

1698
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,880
stumble upon, like that's what 
you're supposed to read is the 

1699
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,000
Manual for Spiritual Warfare by 
Paul Thigpen. 

1700
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,640
There you go. 
Yeah. 

1701
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:43,320
Yeah. 
You would like it. 

1702
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:45,360
I think I would. 
Who? 

1703
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:50,280
I'm going to write that down. 
Manual for Spiritual Warfare by 

1704
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,520
Paul Thigpen. 
Yes, I will look for that. 

1705
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,320
I like those kind of books. 
I, I love what's his name? 

1706
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,000
Also, why can't I remember right
now, But he has a lot of 

1707
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,400
spiritual warfare books and I 
just love them. 

1708
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,360
He's a Latin guy. 
He's a preacher, but I'll think 

1709
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,320
of it in a minute. 
But all of his books are like 

1710
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:13,520
that. 
They're all about spiritual 

1711
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,480
warfare. 
And I love them because I'm 

1712
01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:17,560
like, this is we have to guard 
ourselves. 

1713
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,440
There's stuff out there that 
people don't understand and we 

1714
01:38:20,440 --> 01:38:25,960
definitely can't wrap it all up 
with a bow because it's a whole,

1715
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,720
it's a whole nother realm of 
situation. 

1716
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,840
But you definitely don't want to
open yourself up for anything 

1717
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,360
like that. 
Like you have to guard yourself.

1718
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,080
Because they're looking. 
For a place to rest. 

1719
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:41,160
And that is just real. 
And it's relentless. 

1720
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,920
So you got to, you got to have 
these things around you to kind 

1721
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,160
of remind you which direction 
you're going. 

1722
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,000
Yep, it's so hard. 
And I think John Ramirez is who 

1723
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,640
I was thinking of, by the way. 
OK, I don't think I've read 

1724
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,320
anything by him. 
He does some really good prayers

1725
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,480
for like spiritual warfare. 
He has full books on just 

1726
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:07,680
prayers for spiritual warfare, 
which I love and he has more 

1727
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,280
than one. 
It's not like the same thing 

1728
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,480
over and over, which I like as 
well, because things change and 

1729
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:15,880
situations change and Derek 
Prince is another one I always 

1730
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,840
go. 
Derek Prince is is a a good one 

1731
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,960
too. 
He's the OG, yeah, he's 

1732
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,560
legalistic, but I love him 
still. 

1733
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,880
It doesn't matter. 
You minus the religion now. 

1734
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,840
You're fine, you know. 
Yeah. 

1735
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,000
But he was great. 
I mean, he knew. 

1736
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,720
He knew some things. 
He he knows he's not here 

1737
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:37,480
anymore. 
But he. 

1738
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,560
Yeah, and so with that people, 
you got to arm yourself, watch 

1739
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,640
yourself, bite your demons. 
Everybody has them. 

1740
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,200
Don't be ashamed. 
Shame is the first step towards 

1741
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,440
failure, really. 
And we can't be doing that 

1742
01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:56,520
because we are. 
We are more than that. 

1743
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,880
You're worth more than that. 
You're there's a reason why 

1744
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,280
you're here. 
So we all got to find that. 

1745
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,520
We all got to do that. 
We all got to just pull up by 

1746
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,920
the bootstraps and and work 
through it. 

1747
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,880
You can't jump over it. 
You can't go around it. 

1748
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,600
You got to go through it even 
though it sucks. 

1749
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,720
And if you need help, there are 
people. 

1750
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,520
That are self sabotage coaches 
and tell them where they can 

1751
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,200
find you one more time. 
Well, you can find me on 

1752
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:29,800
Instagram at Jahan Sator. 
That's JEHANSATTAUR. 

1753
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,200
You can also visit my website 
which doesn't have much of 

1754
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,000
anything on it. 
It's self sabotage. 

1755
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,160
What is what I say it was self 
sabotage dot XYZ. 

1756
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,560
Yes, I think that's. 
Right, yeah, I don't even go on 

1757
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:49,960
AC so I don't know, but you can 
e-mail me directly at self 

1758
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,680
sabotage info at proton dot me 
and you can always search for 

1759
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:59,480
the boundless authenticity 
podcast anywhere that you have 

1760
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:04,240
your favorite podcast thingy, 
Spotify, Apple, whatever. 

1761
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,280
I prefer that you listen on 
Spreaker because it gives you 

1762
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,240
the updates whenever there's a 
new episode. 

1763
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,520
Like it'll just download it. 
Oh, that's good. 

1764
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:16,520
Yeah. 
All right. 

1765
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,400
Well. 
Thank you so much for coming on 

1766
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,120
and I think this has been really
nice and in general informative,

1767
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,360
but also I've liked talking to 
you so I. 

1768
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,160
Appreciate that you're my new 
buddy. 

1769
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,240
Thanks for hanging with me. 
We're your friends now. 

1770
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,360
Thank you so much. 
Bye, guys.