1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,840 All right, everybody. And welcome back to another 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,520 episode of The Big Grumbowski. Tonight I have with me Heidi 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,120 Love from Unfiltered Rise podcast. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,640 Who is going to tell me about her story when she born and 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,880 raised into the Mormon Church, correct? 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,240 Yes, yes. Born and raised. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Yep. And then escaped. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,740 Yeah. It took me long enough to figure 9 00:00:28,740 --> 00:00:30,100 it out. I'm good. 10 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,740 How you doing? Not too terribly bad. 11 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:34,540 Awesome. Awesome. 12 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,460 I wish the weather was better. Oh, is it raining there or 13 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:40,980 something? Well, I mean, yeah, it rained 14 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:45,780 all day yesterday, but like today it's just all gloomy and 15 00:00:45,980 --> 00:00:49,500 chilly and every, you know, a lot of people are just like, oh, 16 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:51,460 I love the seasons. I love the seasons. 17 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:52,820 I'm like, no, fuck these seasons. 18 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:55,300 I don't like this shit. I don't like being cold. 19 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:58,860 I want to move to the South. I don't like summer so we are 20 00:00:58,860 --> 00:01:02,460 completely opposite. I hate summer. 21 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:06,540 I I yesterday or yeah it was yesterday when I talked to some 22 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:09,420 guy about it and I can't remember who because I talked to 23 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:12,220 like 3 people yesterday. But anyway when I was talking to 24 00:01:12,220 --> 00:01:15,380 them I'm like summer's a scam. Like it's way hot and I swell up 25 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:17,900 and I feel like crap falls the bomb. 26 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:21,140 But like raining, I don't love rain. 27 00:01:21,340 --> 00:01:23,940 But. I know I like snow. 28 00:01:23,940 --> 00:01:27,060 I live in Utah. I don't, I I don't even, I don't 29 00:01:27,060 --> 00:01:28,980 even like the snow. We get a lot of it. 30 00:01:28,980 --> 00:01:33,340 I just think it's funny though. Like when like Georgia or or 31 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:37,500 somewhere far South like that, it's like 1/2 an inch of snow, 32 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:40,540 like a a light dusting and they shut the whole entire state 33 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:42,020 down. They don't know, no one knows 34 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,860 how to handle anything. They shut all the roads down and 35 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:50,730 I'm just like, we get and we get like 6 feet of snow on average 36 00:01:50,730 --> 00:01:53,730 in the winter here. Like that's that's normal. 37 00:01:54,490 --> 00:01:56,570 Oh, we get snow here, we get snow. 38 00:01:56,570 --> 00:02:01,690 This is actually the motto for our for all of our like, license 39 00:02:01,690 --> 00:02:03,850 plates and everything used to be the greatest snow on earth, 40 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:06,850 'cause we have so many ski resorts and mountains and blah, 41 00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:10,490 blah blah. So I get like 6 feet in my yard, 42 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:13,100 like right? Exactly, it's. 43 00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:15,780 It's snow. It's snow up in this, in this 44 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:18,980 place, for sure. It's it's a lot. 45 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:22,020 Last year was a crazy winter and it lasted forever, even. 46 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:24,780 As much as I love winter, I was like, over it, 'cause it was 47 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:27,820 like May and I think we still had a couple of snow storms in 48 00:02:27,820 --> 00:02:31,260 the mountains. And I was like, OK, knock it off 49 00:02:31,260 --> 00:02:32,980 up there. Quit playing with the weather. 50 00:02:33,980 --> 00:02:36,820 No, that's not, that's not organic at all. 51 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:41,610 I'm like, stop, stop it. And then and then they won't let 52 00:02:41,610 --> 00:02:43,810 you ski anyway past a certain time frame because of The 53 00:02:43,810 --> 00:02:46,690 Avalanches like it starts to slip. 54 00:02:46,690 --> 00:02:50,450 So, oh, I didn't even realize like that was like a, a thing. 55 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:53,410 I mean, obviously it avalanches, but I didn't think that there 56 00:02:53,410 --> 00:02:56,130 was like a specific like time frame where like you just like 57 00:02:56,130 --> 00:02:58,890 weren't allowed to be there because like they happened and 58 00:02:58,890 --> 00:03:01,330 that's. Yeah, they kind of closed it up. 59 00:03:01,330 --> 00:03:03,170 Yeah. They they were weird about it 60 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:04,890 last year. They're like, oh, it got warm 61 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:06,530 and then it got cold. So we don't know. 62 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:08,890 They just shut them down. I was like, oh, that sucks for 63 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:12,370 the people that passes. But I think they just low key 64 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:15,250 were over it. I think they were like hit the 65 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:18,050 button, it's enough, you know, I mean, those people usually don't 66 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:21,010 work that long. So it's like a seasonal deal. 67 00:03:21,010 --> 00:03:24,130 But yeah, we get a lot of snow, lot of snow here. 68 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:26,410 I'm not a skier. I never got to learn. 69 00:03:26,410 --> 00:03:29,850 So it sucks for me. I did some snowboarding when I 70 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:33,610 was like a teenager and stuff, and I had a lot of fun doing 71 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:36,540 that, but not so much as an adult. 72 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:40,140 No, I just my back and everything hurts already. 73 00:03:40,140 --> 00:03:42,940 I don't need any help. Like, right. 74 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:46,980 I'm always like, I don't know. I mean my husband's always like, 75 00:03:46,980 --> 00:03:49,180 oh, you could try again. I'm like, yeah, I just, I have a 76 00:03:49,180 --> 00:03:52,460 hard time walking sometimes. So I I think I'm you. 77 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:56,260 Go ahead, take the kids, right? No kidding. 78 00:03:56,260 --> 00:03:58,780 That's like a young man's sport. Unless you're good at it. 79 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:01,420 If you're good at it. If you're super good at it and 80 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:03,300 you have like nothing, broken on you. 81 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:06,100 Go right ahead. Don't Sonny Bono. 82 00:04:06,220 --> 00:04:09,260 You know, right? Like I'll be fine getting on my 83 00:04:09,260 --> 00:04:12,460 bicycle, go to a skate park and and riding around. 84 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:14,180 I can still do that, no problems. 85 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:17,140 And you know, I'll grind down a handrail or two or whatever, but 86 00:04:17,140 --> 00:04:20,220 like, right? I just that's too much. 87 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:24,220 Coordination's too somewhere to skateboarding and I can't still 88 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:28,510 board to save my life. I I was never coordinated enough 89 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:31,870 for the whole skiing. I I did however take out a ski 90 00:04:31,870 --> 00:04:36,070 instructor once which was pretty funny so and all of my friends 91 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:38,230 were there, so that was awesome. No? 92 00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:40,310 And they just laughed and laughed. 93 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:44,230 We went through, I don't know what he was doing, but he was 94 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:47,350 like holding my hands and we're looking at my feet and all of a 95 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:50,870 sudden my brain like engaged and I was like, he's looking at my 96 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:54,470 feet and I'm looking at my feet and he's skating back or skiing 97 00:04:54,470 --> 00:04:56,540 backwards. Who the Hell's watching where 98 00:04:56,540 --> 00:04:58,340 we're going? Well, nobody was. 99 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:02,940 So I looked up orange fence. We, like, went down the mountain 100 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:08,380 through the fence and he lands on top of me like on like mating 101 00:05:08,380 --> 00:05:13,060 position. And yeah, I'm, I just like me. 102 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:16,620 And he just goes, that was the best wipe out of my life, man. 103 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:19,460 And I was like, I'm in a I'm literally going to freak out if 104 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:23,710 you don't get off of me. My husband was at the top of the 105 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:26,070 mountain. He was like, oh, that was with 106 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:28,030 my friend. I was like, cool. 107 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:30,790 That's great. But I never want to go again. 108 00:05:31,910 --> 00:05:33,310 Traumatized. Yeah. 109 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:34,430 Trauma. More trauma. 110 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:36,310 Mormon trauma. Ski trauma. 111 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:38,670 Utah Trauma? Exactly. 112 00:05:39,070 --> 00:05:46,630 OK, so I have listened to part one and Part 2 of Awesome your 113 00:05:46,630 --> 00:05:53,470 your story on your podcast and so anyone who hasn't listened, 114 00:05:53,470 --> 00:05:55,350 definitely go and listen to that. 115 00:05:55,630 --> 00:05:59,230 But make sure that you do stay here and listen to what she has 116 00:05:59,230 --> 00:06:02,070 to say. So I'm going to let you take the 117 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:04,790 wheel. All right, so should we start 118 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:07,830 with my beginnings or the Church's beginnings? 119 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:11,580 Let's just, we'll go with yours. And then we'll we'll get into, 120 00:06:11,580 --> 00:06:14,260 we'll get into the church there. We'll get into the church, Okay. 121 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:18,780 So I was born into the church. My parents were what you call 122 00:06:18,780 --> 00:06:21,860 Jack Mormons, which means like Catholics that go on Eastern 123 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:23,500 Christmas. Like it's kind of like that. 124 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:25,220 They don't really go. They do what they want. 125 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:27,660 They still smoke and drink. You can't do any of that stuff 126 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:31,540 when you're really actually Mormon if you're practicing, you 127 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:33,380 know, and doing what you should be doing. 128 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:37,180 So they never really went. But my neighbors went. 129 00:06:37,220 --> 00:06:40,260 And so they thought, oh, well, we should send them so they 130 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:43,980 won't be heathens to church with these people because the Mormons 131 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:46,660 will always be like, oh, let us help you do this. 132 00:06:46,660 --> 00:06:48,140 Let us help you take your kids to church. 133 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:49,060 Let us help. You know. 134 00:06:49,060 --> 00:06:52,580 They're very helpful people. And so honestly, and this is the 135 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:54,380 disclaimer I always say, because. 136 00:06:55,010 --> 00:06:57,890 Most Mormon podcasts will not go into the things I'm going to get 137 00:06:57,890 --> 00:07:00,330 into here in a little while because they say it's 138 00:07:00,330 --> 00:07:03,650 disrespectful or making fun of them for their like religious 139 00:07:03,650 --> 00:07:06,490 stuff they do. And here's the thing, I don't 140 00:07:06,490 --> 00:07:09,410 feel that way at all. The reason why I go into, what I 141 00:07:09,410 --> 00:07:11,890 go into is not to make fun of anything. 142 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:15,290 It is because I feel like I was victimized and lied to and I 143 00:07:15,290 --> 00:07:16,970 feel like I shouldn't have to hide that. 144 00:07:16,970 --> 00:07:19,010 I feel like other people should know. 145 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:22,270 So that if they're at the brink, where they're like, oh, maybe I 146 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:24,390 am going to go through the temple because the Mormon church 147 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:27,750 is pretty good until you go to the temple and then things get 148 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:30,550 weird. And so, but no one could talk 149 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:33,790 about the temple until you go. It's like a rule. 150 00:07:33,790 --> 00:07:35,910 Not even your grandma will tell you what's going to happen in 151 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:38,510 there. So you're just kind of thrown 152 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:41,550 into it and we'll get there. But I just want people to know 153 00:07:41,630 --> 00:07:44,870 that This is why I talk about what I do, because I still have 154 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:47,810 family that are Mormon. And I've listened to a lot of 155 00:07:47,810 --> 00:07:49,970 other Mormon podcast people that are. 156 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:53,530 And I'm like, no, no, they don't beat their wives. 157 00:07:53,530 --> 00:07:55,810 Like ritualistically, what is she talking about? 158 00:07:55,890 --> 00:07:59,010 I mean, I like how to step back and go, no, this is crazy. 159 00:07:59,010 --> 00:08:02,170 Like, some of them are probably do, some of them probably don't. 160 00:08:02,410 --> 00:08:05,250 It's no different than Catholics or any other group. 161 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:07,490 I mean there there's bad apples. Yeah. 162 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:10,250 So I hate and my asthma's in rare form. 163 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:12,490 So sorry about that. Pollen's high here. 164 00:08:13,210 --> 00:08:18,150 We got a nice sunny day and so. I just think that when people 165 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:22,710 come on and try and make it more like, yes, I was beaten, my dad 166 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:26,230 was an ass, my stepdad, but it wasn't because he was Mormon. 167 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:28,550 OK? It just that was just like not 168 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:31,150 part of my my story about Mormonism. 169 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:33,270 So I want people to know, you know what? 170 00:08:33,270 --> 00:08:36,549 If it wasn't for my neighbor who was a Mormon, my mom might be 171 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:39,470 dead. Like, she literally helped save 172 00:08:39,470 --> 00:08:41,110 my mom multiple times. So. 173 00:08:41,850 --> 00:08:43,570 It's not the people in the middle. 174 00:08:43,570 --> 00:08:46,530 It's no different than the government or the you know, 175 00:08:46,530 --> 00:08:49,410 powers that be in any other big thing. 176 00:08:49,450 --> 00:08:52,610 You know, that's in the world. Any big group like we were 177 00:08:52,610 --> 00:08:56,410 talking politics or whatever, like lower like city officials 178 00:08:56,410 --> 00:08:58,250 probably aren't that bad of people. 179 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:00,650 But if you get up to the top top, you're probably going to 180 00:09:00,650 --> 00:09:02,770 meet some not really straight arrows. 181 00:09:02,770 --> 00:09:06,210 OK. So same thing with religion and 182 00:09:06,210 --> 00:09:08,770 any religion. So I feel like the normal people 183 00:09:08,770 --> 00:09:11,860 that are in this like. My family members or other 184 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:14,700 people that I know here, because I still live in this state which 185 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:18,700 is like mostly Mormon. Like I have to hide this from my 186 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:20,620 neighbors. That and sometimes my daughter 187 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:23,540 will be like, oh, mom has a podcast and I'm like, no, don't 188 00:09:23,540 --> 00:09:25,660 tell your friends that because then you can't come play. 189 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:30,740 So I'm always like, Oh no, no, what did you tell her that for? 190 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:34,180 But either way, whatever. I just like to get it out there 191 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:36,130 that. I don't think that of people. 192 00:09:36,130 --> 00:09:38,970 So we went with our nice neighbors who are very nice 193 00:09:38,970 --> 00:09:44,170 people and good people and we were baptized into the church by 194 00:09:44,170 --> 00:09:46,930 with my neighbor actually baptized me because you have to 195 00:09:46,930 --> 00:09:50,010 be worthy to like baptize. So like my dad couldn't do it or 196 00:09:50,010 --> 00:09:52,570 anything at 8 years old you get baptized. 197 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:56,170 The only difference between US and regular churches on the 198 00:09:56,170 --> 00:10:00,210 baptism is we don't get baptized for God, we get baptized into 199 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:02,490 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which is what 200 00:10:02,490 --> 00:10:05,900 they say. And so even that pulling that 201 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:09,100 apart and it's really indoctrinating the whole time, 202 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:12,980 but you don't realize it because you're a kid, you know, you just 203 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:15,340 think, oh, this is just what you do. 204 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:18,700 You know you go to testimony meetings once a month at the 205 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:22,140 first Sunday of the month, and if you feel the spirit or your 206 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:25,040 mom nudges you enough. You go up to the front and you 207 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,680 say, I'd like to bear my testimony. 208 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:29,200 And I know this church is true. Like everything's about the 209 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 church. It's missing the God part. 210 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,480 It's a lot, but you don't you don't recognize it because they 211 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,480 say the God part is the same as with, you know, basically like 212 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,920 that is the church is is God. So don't worry about that. 213 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 But that that's really not true. They're talking a lot about, you 214 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,360 know, the church and so little 4 year olds will get up there and 215 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,900 they're like I. They say these little things and 216 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:55,180 I'm like, you don't even know what testimony means. 217 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:58,820 No, there's no way. You know, you're a kid, you're 218 00:10:58,820 --> 00:11:01,340 4. And so you get, you get this 219 00:11:01,340 --> 00:11:03,700 stuff like, 'cause then everybody's like, oh, you did 220 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,220 good. Your way to go, Johnny, you 221 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:09,140 know? So I mean, it's indoctrinating 222 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:12,540 that way, but it's it's not. I don't feel like that's harmful 223 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,420 necessarily. It is in the long run. 224 00:11:15,420 --> 00:11:18,900 But like, overall, are they hurting anyone at that point? 225 00:11:18,900 --> 00:11:24,020 Not really, you know. You get into a lot of things 226 00:11:24,020 --> 00:11:28,140 like later when you become a teenager that are weird, you 227 00:11:28,140 --> 00:11:31,260 start having Bishop meetings because you can't go to the like 228 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:33,940 dances. They have dances for the kids 229 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:37,660 that are like, you have to be 14 and you you can't date till 230 00:11:37,660 --> 00:11:39,380 you're 16. So you kind of want to go to 231 00:11:39,380 --> 00:11:42,060 those dances because you're like, I can't do anything else, 232 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:43,660 you know, How am I ever going to meet a human? 233 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:47,000 So? I mean, you have to go to these 234 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,000 meetings with your Bishop to like figure out if you're worthy 235 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 to go. And so they ask you some really 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,880 inappropriate questions like do you masturbate weird stuff like 237 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,440 all kind. Like what do you do? 238 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,960 Like how do you do? And you're alone. 239 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,920 You're alone in that office with that person and and now 240 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,680 reviewing it, I'm like, that was so messed up. 241 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,760 But like, at the time, I didn't feel victimized. 242 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,560 At the time. I didn't feel weird about it. 243 00:12:11,070 --> 00:12:12,870 You know, you just knew that's what it was. 244 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:15,510 And you become a super good liar immediately. 245 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:18,430 Because if you answer that question wrong like one time, 246 00:12:18,430 --> 00:12:21,830 and you get like that whole, like she didn't go to the dance. 247 00:12:21,830 --> 00:12:25,390 I wonder why she didn't. You know, it gets awkward. 248 00:12:25,390 --> 00:12:28,670 So you learn very quickly in Mormonism that perfection is 249 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:31,550 what they're seeking, whether it's real or imagined. 250 00:12:32,950 --> 00:12:34,550 You become perfect. So. 251 00:12:35,210 --> 00:12:36,690 It's a lot of pressure on people. 252 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:39,810 I feel like this day is I don't feel this is truth. 253 00:12:39,930 --> 00:12:40,930 I'm. I am a nurse. 254 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:44,490 I've been a nurse 24 years. We see a lot of depression and 255 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:47,650 suicide rates here. It has to correlate. 256 00:12:47,650 --> 00:12:53,930 I mean it that pressure is so much and I had it a lot too as a 257 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:57,690 as a mom later on in my life. So anyway, back to teenage 258 00:12:57,690 --> 00:12:59,810 years. You're doing that. 259 00:12:59,810 --> 00:13:01,890 You hook up and go to these little. 260 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Like young women's, young men's, you guys sometimes do group 261 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,400 activities. So the moms go to relief 262 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,840 Society, the dads go to their meeting. 263 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,800 These are all on different days of the week. 264 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,120 Then the kids go to their meeting, then the teenagers go 265 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,320 to their meeting. Then on Sunday, all go to a 266 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,560 meeting. So like you're busy all the 267 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,720 time. And then once a month you have 268 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 to go, you know, visiting, teaching to your neighbors and 269 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,440 you have to go do this. I mean, there's a lot of have to 270 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:28,260 like. If you're in the Mormon church, 271 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:30,740 you are not. You do not lack for things to 272 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:32,340 do. Like, literally. 273 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:36,420 You're just probably tired, I mean, and and sometimes that's a 274 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:39,460 good thing, you know? Sometimes for some people that 275 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:42,860 like, can help them, pull them out of addictions or different 276 00:13:42,860 --> 00:13:45,580 things because you don't have time for any of that crap. 277 00:13:45,820 --> 00:13:48,540 You know, you you're busy. You're not having a beer for 278 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:50,940 sure anyways because it's against the rules. 279 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:54,380 But even if you had time, there's you. 280 00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:56,220 You wouldn't, you wouldn't have time. 281 00:13:56,460 --> 00:14:00,630 So. And then as you get older, you 282 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:03,950 get like 12. At 12 years old, you can get 283 00:14:03,950 --> 00:14:07,710 your first little taste of the temple, and you can do baptisms 284 00:14:07,710 --> 00:14:09,870 for the dead. Now remember, they're already 285 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:12,190 baptized at 8 years old for themselves. 286 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:17,630 So later you're baptizing people by proxy because they're dead, 287 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:21,830 and you can do up to 13 each. And you do you do this in a 288 00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:24,950 font, a baptismal font inside the temple. 289 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:27,930 And you feel all special because you're like, Oh my gosh, I'm in 290 00:14:27,930 --> 00:14:30,610 the temple. Like, there's even songs about 291 00:14:30,610 --> 00:14:31,930 the temple. Like, I'm going to get married 292 00:14:31,930 --> 00:14:34,610 in the temple one day. Like, they really shove this 293 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:38,570 down your throat. So you're like, wow, I'm made it 294 00:14:38,570 --> 00:14:41,210 in here. I lied enough that I'm perfect. 295 00:14:41,730 --> 00:14:47,490 I'm, I'm, I'm here, great, you know, And so you do these things 296 00:14:47,490 --> 00:14:50,570 for proxy, but you don't really even understand what that means. 297 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:53,210 Like at at 12 and 13. I don't think I did. 298 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,580 You know, so is there a significance to why you're only 299 00:14:57,580 --> 00:15:01,540 allowed to do so many? No, I think it's more like 300 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:03,300 everybody's waiting to take their turn. 301 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:07,060 So you got to wrap it up. You know, whoever, it's funny 302 00:15:07,060 --> 00:15:10,820 that they chose the number 13. Right, 13, Yes. 303 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:14,100 And so that's a fun little thing. 304 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,940 And that's why Mormons are so into genealogy. 305 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:22,310 Because they have to get the names of all these dead people 306 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:24,550 in their families. So you can go and baptize them. 307 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:27,110 Right. And if and they even did like 308 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:29,470 Hitler and Jews and all kinds of bad stuff. 309 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:31,830 And I'm like, and when the Jewish people started getting 310 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:35,310 baptized after they died in the Holocaust for what they 311 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:39,270 believed, they were sued. They were definitely sued. 312 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:40,950 And that crap stopped. Yeah. 313 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:45,190 And then so the Mormons don't really have the line where 314 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:48,230 they're like, maybe we shouldn't do that because, you know. 315 00:15:49,150 --> 00:15:53,070 Probably not a good idea, right? So after the fact, you're like, 316 00:15:54,030 --> 00:15:56,790 in hindsight, that was a bad idea guys. 317 00:15:56,830 --> 00:15:58,830 Bad. Plan Gina, you know they're 318 00:15:58,830 --> 00:16:02,310 like, oh actually it would be George cause Gina's don't make 319 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:05,950 those decisions. But you you know what I'm 320 00:16:05,950 --> 00:16:08,270 saying? It would have been yeah, it's 321 00:16:08,270 --> 00:16:11,390 not it's not good. So you do this whole proxy 322 00:16:11,390 --> 00:16:13,990 thing, but to you as a kid you're like, yeah. 323 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:15,950 And then we went with the young men and had ice cream. 324 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:18,160 So that was cool. You know, like, you really don't 325 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,400 know what you're doing. You really. 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,240 And even if somebody breaks it down for you, I don't think you 327 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,680 really get it. And so if you did, you're like 328 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 probably thinking, why the hell are we baptizing dead people? 329 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,600 What's going on with the dead people? 330 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,080 You know, I mean, like, retrospect is everything. 331 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Whatever, Moving on with my life. 332 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,920 You go forward from there. My family turbulence, It was 333 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,840 just stupid my whole life, like when I was a kid is really a lot 334 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,890 and so. I was my stepdad was rare form, 335 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:56,450 just like to beat people. And my mom almost died. 336 00:16:56,450 --> 00:17:00,250 And then because she'd had so much problems with him, she had 337 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:03,090 had suicide attempts. And then because of that, you 338 00:17:03,090 --> 00:17:05,490 know, she drank too much and he drank too much. 339 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:07,089 And there was drugs involved and all this stuff. 340 00:17:07,089 --> 00:17:10,410 So basically we were taken away by the time I was 12, lived with 341 00:17:10,410 --> 00:17:12,849 my grandma. We moved away from Idaho and 342 00:17:12,849 --> 00:17:15,250 back to Utah. Well, Utah Mormons. 343 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:19,170 And Idaho, Mormons, anywhere else, in the whole anywhere I 344 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:23,530 would venture to state world. It's a lot different than Utah, 345 00:17:23,690 --> 00:17:27,410 with Utah being the Mecca. Things are real serious here. 346 00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:30,730 OK. Some places you go, like Idaho 347 00:17:30,730 --> 00:17:33,570 was more relaxed. I feel like they were serious, 348 00:17:33,570 --> 00:17:39,250 but they weren't like serious, you know, and and so it was, it 349 00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:41,250 was a big change. And I still stayed in the 350 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:43,730 church. My grandma was very church 351 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:46,180 centered. And none of her kids had made it 352 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:48,260 through. The temple is a big deal for 353 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:49,620 her. She went through the temple 354 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:53,460 alone because my grandpa was basically a hooligan until he 355 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:55,780 was like 50 something. He was a one. 356 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:59,580 He was A1 percenter. Do you know that is it's not 357 00:17:59,580 --> 00:18:02,300 good. So, like a biker, you know? 358 00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:03,820 OK, that's what I that's what I figured. 359 00:18:03,820 --> 00:18:06,540 Yeah, yeah. And my uncle was a sundowner. 360 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:11,340 And so all these things, which is like Hell's Angels, but so 361 00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:15,020 all this stuff. Her kids didn't really turn out 362 00:18:15,140 --> 00:18:17,500 like she thought they might and wanted them to. 363 00:18:17,580 --> 00:18:21,020 So she, like, put all her energy into like this one's going to 364 00:18:21,020 --> 00:18:23,940 make it, you know, this kid is going to make it. 365 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:27,180 So she, like, did everything to make sure like I was going to 366 00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:30,060 church, I was doing what I needed to do, blah blah, blah. 367 00:18:30,660 --> 00:18:34,380 And so even with boys, 'cause I was super boy crazy early, she 368 00:18:34,380 --> 00:18:36,780 was like, I will straight up give you your grandpa's sports 369 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:38,660 car if you graduate and you're a virgin. 370 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,280 I didn't say I never said that on another podcast, but that's 371 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,880 true. And I was like, damn. 372 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,360 And so it does like, make it into your perspective. 373 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,880 Like, is he really worth a car? You know? 374 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,640 Like, yeah. Needless to say, I wasn't with 375 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,250 anyone until I got married. But I did get married at 17, 376 00:19:00,250 --> 00:19:03,890 like a moron and so but everybody was fine with it. 377 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:05,890 Like I should have been at senior prom. 378 00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:08,370 And I wasn't. I was getting married to a 25 379 00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:10,410 year old man. So I wasn't pregnant. 380 00:19:10,530 --> 00:19:14,690 I was just an idiot and I thought this was a good idea 381 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:20,650 because my grandparents got married at 14 and 16, so right. 382 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:23,330 So like for you? For you guys, it was just 383 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:27,100 commonplace. I was like, Oh yeah, it's fine, 384 00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:28,540 totally fine. She does that. 385 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:32,500 So I got married to this 25 year old. 386 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:37,340 I don't know. Now looking back on it, it's 387 00:19:37,340 --> 00:19:39,740 really awkward that he wanted to marry a 17 year old. 388 00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:43,860 I'm like, anyway, yeah, a lot of things there. 389 00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:47,820 So we get really involved in the church together. 390 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:50,350 And his parents have never forgiven me. 391 00:19:50,350 --> 00:19:53,550 I'm pretty sure, 'cause he was Roman Catholic and he was Irish, 392 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:58,190 and you just like a Mick, you know, like McKinney McDonald, 393 00:19:58,270 --> 00:20:02,910 like he was a Mick. And so it was bad and his family 394 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,350 was upset. I mean, I get it now. 395 00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:08,990 Back then I was like, I don't know, he's doing way better now, 396 00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:12,430 you know, which he was, 'cause he was an addict for many years. 397 00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:15,750 And for him, it was like something to focus on. 398 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:17,950 Like good. Things to focus on. 399 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:23,310 And that's why I say, you know, I don't really, it's hard for 400 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:27,670 me, 'cause it's satanic. So the church is like lies. 401 00:20:27,710 --> 00:20:30,830 If they came out and said, you know what, we are a group that 402 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:33,190 just believes in blah blah, blah, and we're almost 403 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:36,910 Freemasons and we're sort of Satanic and Christ is going to 404 00:20:36,910 --> 00:20:38,150 be thrown out of this whole thing. 405 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:41,110 I would stop this. Like, I would stop talking about 406 00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:43,500 it. The fact that I was told that 407 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:46,300 this was how you get to heaven and that this is the only way 408 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:51,060 that God's going to love me, that pisses me off, literally. 409 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:55,260 Like, so we start doing all these classes to go to the 410 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:57,860 temple because he was a convert. So we couldn't get married in 411 00:20:57,860 --> 00:21:00,820 the temple at first because they have to wait a year because they 412 00:21:00,820 --> 00:21:03,620 have to make sure they're like, are you really sure you want to, 413 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:06,860 you know, do it? And so they make them wait, 414 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:09,820 which is fine, whatever. We did the classes and all the 415 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:13,290 things, and we go through the temple when I'm pretty pregnant 416 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:16,570 because like it we'd been married like 2 and some change 417 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:20,890 years by then. And so I'm like 9 months 418 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:22,930 pregnant. And the first thing that happens 419 00:21:22,930 --> 00:21:26,650 to me as we go in there is they give me this. 420 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:30,410 They don't do this anymore because straight up people suit 421 00:21:30,410 --> 00:21:32,610 them. They have you take off your 422 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:36,170 clothes and they have you put on this poncho thing and it's open. 423 00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:40,620 It's like a poncho. It's like sides open and you sit 424 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:43,780 down on this cold bench in this little room and you're like 425 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,660 waiting for somebody and you're like, what the hell is going on? 426 00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:49,540 And the bench is like, sucky. The bench is like, hard. 427 00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:53,060 And not even not. It's not like anything else in 428 00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:54,980 there. I mean, it's like stone and 429 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:58,940 you're kind of naked, you know? And so I'm like, why is it so 430 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:00,740 cold? Well, I found out later. 431 00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:03,860 That's because that's an altar. I didn't know that. 432 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:08,340 It doesn't really look like it because it's just a bench stone 433 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:11,080 thing. But in the rear view mirror I'm 434 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,480 like, OK, yeah, I see it, got it. 435 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240 And then they come in and they bless you. 436 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,360 And now they only touch people's foreheads because there was so 437 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,640 much controversy, because they come in and they touch here and 438 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,640 they touch like your navel and they bless your loins, which is 439 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,730 like your, you know, junk. And so they do it right above 440 00:22:30,730 --> 00:22:33,090 that. There's no sexual weirdness. 441 00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:34,890 None of that. But like, it's very 442 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:36,650 uncomfortable. You're very. 443 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:39,370 You're very uncomfortable. Yeah. 444 00:22:39,370 --> 00:22:43,370 And also, if you're in the Mormon church, you know that 445 00:22:44,010 --> 00:22:46,450 they're only people that can have the priesthood as men. 446 00:22:46,690 --> 00:22:48,930 OK, Period. End of the story. 447 00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:51,410 So the men do the blessings. The men hold the priesthood. 448 00:22:51,410 --> 00:22:53,330 The men do the stuff. That's how it is. 449 00:22:53,650 --> 00:22:56,690 So this lady comes in and here I am, so indoctrinated. 450 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:59,250 I'm like, wait a minute, I know I'm Naked and everything. 451 00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:00,570 That's fine, whatever it's called. 452 00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:04,050 But you can't give me a blessing because you're a lady. 453 00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:05,970 And that that's all I cared about. 454 00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:07,850 At that point. I'm like, looking back, I was 455 00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:10,410 like, what the heck? But yeah. 456 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:13,290 And so this lady comes in and I'm like, but where's the guy? 457 00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:15,010 Because you don't have the priesthood. 458 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:17,690 You, you clearly cannot do this. And she's like, oh, it's 459 00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:19,280 different in the temple, of course. 460 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Of course it is. Of course it is everything. 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480 So there's washing and anointings that happen. 462 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,680 And it's like symbolic with oil and stuff. 463 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,880 But also, guess what, Masons do Washing and anointings. 464 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Masons receive new underwear in their temple rites. 465 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 And right after you're naked and do this stupid shit stuff. 466 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600 Excuse me? You get new underwear. 467 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,320 I know. I try not my own self. 468 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,680 I'm like, 'cause I am Christian and I'm fully. 469 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,880 I love God. But I do slip a lot on the bad 470 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,640 mouth. I was raised by truckers and 471 00:23:51,640 --> 00:24:00,040 bikers, and I'm working on it. So anyway, then they come in and 472 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000 they get you all ready and you go into another room and it's, 473 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,080 it's like all painted like the Garden of Eden. 474 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,880 And the men sit on one side and the women sit on the other, and 475 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,960 they do this story. And if you're in a live version 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,160 of this then it's it's like a play and if you're in non live 477 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,000 version it's a movie and it's all about how God created the 478 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,480 world and all this stuff. And like so eventually you know 479 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,760 they get to Adam and Eve and then we're kind of 480 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,920 representative of Adam and Eve. And then it's like they have 481 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,320 people come to an altar and they talk about like the devil coming 482 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 in and and if you're in the play part, they took it out because 483 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,150 too many people were like spooked out that, like there was 484 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:47,030 a like a devil that would come in dressed all in black and be 485 00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:49,870 all weird. Now it's just like, I guess they 486 00:24:49,870 --> 00:24:52,590 just say it like, oh, and then Lucifer came. 487 00:24:52,590 --> 00:24:55,350 I I don't know what they do now because I don't go anymore. 488 00:24:55,350 --> 00:25:00,070 Thank heavens. So still Lucifer has a huge part 489 00:25:00,070 --> 00:25:04,150 of this whole thing. So the people are reenacting 490 00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:07,150 this with it as far as like, they'll tell you. 491 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:12,570 OK, Adam got, you know, out into the lone and jury world and he's 492 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:17,610 praying and and he's calling out, they used to say Pele L, 493 00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,970 which means, oh, hear me, false God. 494 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:23,010 But people got smart and they started. 495 00:25:23,010 --> 00:25:26,530 So now they say, oh, hear me, hear me, God, hear the words of 496 00:25:26,530 --> 00:25:30,450 my mouth. And so then all of a sudden God 497 00:25:30,450 --> 00:25:32,450 doesn't come. Lucifer does. 498 00:25:32,890 --> 00:25:35,490 Lucifer shows up and he says, oh, God's going to know you're 499 00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:37,130 naked. You better put this apron on. 500 00:25:37,210 --> 00:25:41,330 OK, Why did Lucifer answer the prayer? 501 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:46,810 Why did Lucifer answer the prayer when he was praying? 502 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:50,570 And that was always weird. Like somebody brought that up in 503 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:53,290 one of my other ones and I was like, oh, I didn't, I didn't 504 00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:55,650 catch that. And then the he says, you better 505 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:58,210 get this apron. And we get the apron and we put 506 00:25:58,210 --> 00:26:01,650 it on because he gave it to us. Then everybody stands up and 507 00:26:01,650 --> 00:26:03,490 they put on their fig leaf apron. 508 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:06,410 They put on this green apron. It's the only thing of color in 509 00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:09,340 the whole thing. It used to be really a Masonic 510 00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:13,780 apron with, like, checkers and, like, the sun and all kinds of 511 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,060 Masonic stuff. But they of course changed that 512 00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:19,020 in the 1960s. And I remember my my grandma, my 513 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:21,020 great grandma was like, such a shame. 514 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:24,900 Those were so much cuter. Yeah. 515 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:28,020 You look at them and it's like, oh, sheesh, I know why. 516 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:32,130 Like, it's like the sundial and like up above the checkered 517 00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:34,450 floor and like all kinds of Mason crap. 518 00:26:34,770 --> 00:26:36,850 So I mean, I see why they changed them. 519 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,890 Like, probably I really. Love the the red upside down 520 00:26:40,890 --> 00:26:43,090 star, the circle on the backside of it too. 521 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:47,930 It was so bad. And so she's like, oh, we just 522 00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:50,530 have these green ones now. And I'm like, yeah, so you're 523 00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:52,690 sitting there. Just just think. 524 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:54,690 Just put yourself. You've already been naked. 525 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 You got these weird underwear now, by the way, they look like 526 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,400 a full T-shirt for a girl, like maybe a little bit like of a cap 527 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,200 sleeve right there. And it's like AT shirt. 528 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,840 And then also long like underwear, like men's boxer 529 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,920 briefs for women. And they have symbols on them. 530 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,320 They have a compass and a square on each nipple. 531 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,040 They have a ruler that goes sideways over your navel and 532 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,720 they have another ruler on your knee where your knee would like 533 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,760 be on the ground if you would kneeled. 534 00:27:25,150 --> 00:27:27,190 And you have to wear these for all your life. 535 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:29,750 You have to wear them. I mean obviously different 536 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:33,270 pairs, like they're your underwear now funny enough, the 537 00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:35,550 churches who makes them, funny enough you can't buy them 538 00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:38,790 anywhere else. Funny enough they cost like 40 539 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:44,110 bucks a pair and you have and I've seen and I can't prove this 540 00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:46,390 and I don't like saying things that I can't prove, So I'm just 541 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:48,910 going to say I can't prove it. I've seen pictures of kids 542 00:27:48,910 --> 00:27:51,670 making them in sweatshops, so I don't think their overhead is 543 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:57,750 high. Yeah, and so you go get these 544 00:27:57,790 --> 00:28:00,070 underwear and you can't even buy the underwear. 545 00:28:00,070 --> 00:28:03,390 Like if you went in, you try to buy someone, they they would say 546 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:05,870 I need to see your recommend there and you can't even fake 547 00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:06,950 it. It's all digital. 548 00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:09,950 They're no dummies. They got like top of the line 549 00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:14,550 crap, like they're smart and so you have all that stuff. 550 00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:17,900 So you get if you've got your weird underwear on, you can't 551 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:20,220 even put your bra underneath. You have to put your bra over 552 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,140 the top. Everything, even your if you 553 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:24,220 wear regular underwear, it has to go over the top. 554 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:28,540 So can you even imagine the situation? 555 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:32,340 This is like very pregnant. And then, like postpartum 556 00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:36,860 situations, monthly situations for girls, boxer shorts, they 557 00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:40,980 don't fit like underwear. OK, It's not a thing. 558 00:28:41,710 --> 00:28:45,150 So probably the most miserable years of my life spent in those, 559 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:46,750 not the reason why I left the church. 560 00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:48,270 People would be like, oh, that's why she left. 561 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:51,510 She didn't like the garments. No, that's not why. 562 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:54,710 I'm just saying it was very uncomfortable And I'm hot all 563 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:57,870 the time because I don't have a thyroid, because I had cancer. 564 00:28:58,430 --> 00:29:01,310 And so you have to wear those underneath your clothing and you 565 00:29:01,310 --> 00:29:03,310 cannot wear anything that would show them. 566 00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:06,390 So no more tank tops, no more cute tank tops. 567 00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:08,430 Summer dresses, no more short dresses. 568 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:11,800 Everything's to the knee. Like This is why they're very 569 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320 modest. And it used to be like if you go 570 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,680 back, back back to the olden days, to the wrist, they were, 571 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,440 they were like to the wrist and to the ankle and the the FLDS, 572 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240 which are like the polygamists, they still do that. 573 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360 They go by the letter of the law and that's why they look so 574 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880 little House on the Prairie because, I mean, they have to 575 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960 cover all that. So what's the difference between 576 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,520 them? And then the Temple Mormons? 577 00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:40,530 So they have their own temple as well. 578 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:43,450 There's three branches. Well, there's probably more, but 579 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:46,890 there's three main branches that split off after Joseph Smith 580 00:29:46,890 --> 00:29:50,570 died. He had the main branch of the 581 00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:53,370 LDS people that came here and settled in Salt Lake, and 582 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:56,090 Brigham Young took over that, that whole thing. 583 00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:58,770 They were still polygamous then, everything like that. 584 00:29:58,770 --> 00:30:01,690 But like that became the mainstream church for the most 585 00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:04,740 part. Then there was like a big 586 00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:07,220 uproar. I can't remember which profit. 587 00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:09,980 They didn't think it was the right profit, whatever. 588 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:13,740 And so they went their own way because they were changing the 589 00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:15,540 Book of Mormon. And that is true. 590 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:18,660 That Book of Mormon has been changed more times than probably 591 00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:22,300 I change underwear. Like it is been fixed and 592 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,500 changed. And if anything, like how I told 593 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,780 you, oh, they don't do that anymore, oh, they don't do this 594 00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:29,380 anymore, blah, blah, blah, blah. This happens all the time 595 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:33,330 because people get offended. And so those people that dress 596 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:37,210 like Little House on the Prairie, the FLDS, they actually 597 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:40,130 practice real Mormonism. They are probably the only 598 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:41,850 people that practice real Mormonism. 599 00:30:41,890 --> 00:30:44,210 They did not ever change the Book of Mormon. 600 00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:49,490 They don't bend to meet kool-aid Hair people, OK, They just 601 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:52,290 don't. They stick to what it says and 602 00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:55,730 that's what they do. And so I almost have some sort 603 00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:59,410 of, like props to them other than the pedophilia, like they 604 00:30:59,530 --> 00:31:02,850 like to have little child brides that are 12. 605 00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:06,610 So that's not OK. So I'm like, you know, what if 606 00:31:06,610 --> 00:31:09,210 they want to have 20 wives and everybody's in agreements and 607 00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:13,290 they're over 18, I don't really care, You know what I mean? 608 00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:15,250 Like, if that that's their choice. 609 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:17,930 I also think they're very indoctrinated. 610 00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:21,210 And I know what they do to them because I lived in that area for 611 00:31:21,210 --> 00:31:23,570 a long time. I lived in Saint George and they 612 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:25,610 live in Colorado City, which is very close. 613 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:29,760 And we would see them and they indoctrinate them so bad that 614 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,280 very few people leave because they feel like they really will 615 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,280 go to hell. And their husbands often times 616 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920 keep their children and their children do not belong to them. 617 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480 It's really hard. They have their own government. 618 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,760 They have their own people out there. 619 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Like, I mean it. It's serious. 620 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,600 And so that's the FLDS, the mainstream LDS is the people you 621 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,800 see come knocking on your door. The more I want to say normie, 622 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600 they're normie Mormons. Like that's the Normie Mormons. 623 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 And they practice just the mainstream Mormonism. 624 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,000 And then there's the reorganized church, which branched off after 625 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,960 the death of Joseph Smith because his wife, Emma hated 626 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640 polygamy and thought it was crap. 627 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,320 And her son started that. So she was like, yeah, we can't. 628 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,200 I believe in this, but we're not doing that. 629 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360 We're cutting that. And I don't blame her at all. 630 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,600 There's no way I actually, we're not done with the temple part. 631 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560 But I will tell you this. I've said it on a couple. 632 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840 I actually lost my husband to a polygamist. 633 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,320 So it's funny now. It wasn't funny. 634 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,760 It was not funny when it happened. 635 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400 I kicked my mat. I did. 636 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,520 I almost went to jail. I know I shouldn't condone 637 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 violence, but, like, sometimes people deserve violence. 638 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000 Because she knew that we were trying, right? 639 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Yeah, she knew. I gave her a chance. 640 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360 Look, I'm willing to give anybody a chance. 641 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,240 I I came to her woman to woman and said knock it off. 642 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040 I know what you're doing. I'm going to call your husband 643 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,960 and I know he hits you. So you better cut it out, 'cause 644 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280 I will blow your life up. Thank you. 645 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,920 Stop it. She was considered defective 646 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,040 because she lost her uterus after her first child, and she 647 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,680 was the youngest wife. When you're the youngest wife, 648 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,480 your duty is to have more babies. 649 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,360 So she was considered to be, like defective, you know? 650 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,280 And she probably felt really horrible about it. 651 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,760 She was still really young. She was like 23. 652 00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:28,370 And so I just told her, look, we're trying to work out our 653 00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:30,090 crap. Whatever, Leave it. 654 00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,650 Leave him alone. That was his secretary at his 655 00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:35,130 job. And she didn't leave it alone. 656 00:33:35,130 --> 00:33:38,370 And I told her, if I ever catch you doing that again, I will get 657 00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:42,730 a hold of your husband. And sure enough, I caught him 658 00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:45,730 again one time. And I I grabbed the phone and I 659 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:48,970 was like, hello, can I please speak to whatever his name on? 660 00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:51,130 I can't remember. And then she's like, oh, who's 661 00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,010 calling? And I was like, blah, blah, blah 662 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:54,770 from construction company because I knew he did 663 00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:56,890 construction. And I was like, oh, it's about 664 00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:59,370 this bid. And then I was like, yeah, no, 665 00:33:59,650 --> 00:34:02,170 you're. And I just told him, like, your 666 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:03,530 wife is sleeping with my husband. 667 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:05,570 This is what's happening. Blah, blah, blah, This is my 668 00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:06,970 name. This is his name. 669 00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:09,010 Bye. And I could hear her screaming 670 00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:13,650 before I hung up the phone. So yeah, I was like, sorry, 671 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:16,810 sorry, not sorry. You should leave married people 672 00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:20,409 alone, you know? And that wasn't even. 673 00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:23,889 I had already got to her before that, like and. 674 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:28,969 Yeah and it was bad. We I didn't go to jail because 675 00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:31,250 it was my friend's brother that came. 676 00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:37,170 He was he was the cop and actually I feel like the boss, 677 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:43,960 like low key was like he walked in and saw us fighting and like 678 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,360 he turned around and walked out and I was like everybody knows 679 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,639 you observe this. Everybody know. 680 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,520 I mean wasn't trying to kill her. 681 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440 I was just trying to slap her around a little. 682 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840 You know I was mad. I was really pissed. 683 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,280 And so eventually whatever that that's that. 684 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,640 But so we'll go back to the temple. 685 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400 We're still in the temple because we're not even close to 686 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,360 done. That's just my I'm, I'm a 687 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360 tangent person. I'll go off. 688 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,800 And yeah, it's how my brain works. 689 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160 ADHD at its finest, yeah. Same. 690 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040 And then I'll catch myself where I'm just like, I start talking 691 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,360 and I'm like, I'm getting really Chatty Cathy because I'm like 692 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920 completely baked out of my corners, like. 693 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,160 And then I'm like, oh God, I gotta, I gotta pick it back up, 694 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,000 get it back together. Yeah. 695 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Well, and I have, I have organized, I think ADHD, like 696 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,880 most of the time I can hone in, but if there's like a little 697 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,280 tangent thing, then I'm like, well, I gotta tell it now, 698 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,890 'cause I'll forget it later. So that's like tangent. 699 00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:44,050 Yeah. So we're still in the temple and 700 00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:47,330 and you lean over these. Well, first you finish your 701 00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:49,810 little ceremony. This is called your endowment 702 00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:51,370 session. You're getting endowed. 703 00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:53,810 And that's kind of funny in a way. 704 00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:58,690 But anyway, maybe some people aren't endowed so that. 705 00:35:58,690 --> 00:36:00,490 No wonder they called it that, right? 706 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:05,460 I guess it's a very male centered freaking thing. 707 00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:09,620 So then you're learning about all the signs and symbols that 708 00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:12,620 you need to get through to go to heaven. 709 00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:15,260 So they're handshakes and they're basically Masonic 710 00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:18,340 handshakes that they're 100% like the same. 711 00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:22,100 Like one of them is called the True Grip of the Lion paw or 712 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:26,220 something, and he just changed the name, the true grip of the, 713 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:30,350 the true sign of the nail. And so he just changes the name 714 00:36:30,350 --> 00:36:33,030 of these and I'll explain why. But I don't want a tangent 715 00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:35,310 again. So I don't know, it's hard to 716 00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:40,310 like keep it because it's this whole story is just all and so 717 00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:42,590 yeah, keep that in your back pocket. 718 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:46,430 So we're going through that. And then they start doing this 719 00:36:46,430 --> 00:36:49,480 weird chanting and they're bringing their arms to the 720 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,720 square, which is very Masonic. And back in the 80s, they used 721 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,960 and all before the 80s, like it wasn't just the 80s. 722 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,120 Anytime before the 80s, like early 90s, they used to swear to 723 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,360 slit their throat or slit their belly, just like the Gnostic 724 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,280 mask if they ever spoke of it. Like what I'm doing right now. 725 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,200 And yeah, yeah, and actually New York Patriot, shout out to New 726 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,360 York Patriot. He's amazing. 727 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,320 He told me that at my last interview. 728 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,800 I actually just posted that today, and I was like that 729 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,840 that's creepy, that that's weird that they do the same sorts of 730 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,840 things. I mean, because Gnostic 731 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,160 shouldn't have anything to do with Joseph Smith. 732 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400 Like, I understood the Masons because he was a Mason. 733 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,440 But the Gnostic mass, like, for the OTO, where'd that come from? 734 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Like, what? So yeah, Satanic stuff. 735 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,280 I was like, oh, great, I did that. 736 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,800 So and then they do this weird. They do a book. 737 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560 And this is important. And I do this on every podcast I 738 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520 do. If somebody, this Mormon comes 739 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000 to you, 'cause you're having a hard time or whatever and says, 740 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,440 oh, do you want me to put your name on the temple list that say 741 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,360 no, that is a book, that they put all the names for the prayer 742 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,320 requests in there, OK, now it's a computer. 743 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Now they just print it off and put it in a book. 744 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,370 But then they go and start chanting around this book like, 745 00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:16,210 like, you wouldn't even believe. It's so creepy. 746 00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:20,930 And they're like saying stuff and chanting at the same time 747 00:38:20,930 --> 00:38:24,610 and saying like, oh God, hear the words of my mouth stuff, 748 00:38:24,610 --> 00:38:26,570 Which, what? Remember who answered when they 749 00:38:26,570 --> 00:38:30,290 said that it wasn't God, right, The devil. 750 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:34,890 So, yeah, so I'm like, I tell everyone like, well, you can do 751 00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:36,780 what you want. If you want your name on that 752 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:39,620 book, knock yourself out. But if you're trying to get rid 753 00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:42,260 of weird stuff in your life, I probably wouldn't do that if I 754 00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:44,900 were you. Like, people say that to me all 755 00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:48,020 the time because I'm in Utah and it's a normal thing to say to 756 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:50,780 somebody, like if you're sick or had surgery. 757 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:54,420 And I'm always like, oh, no, no, no, no, don't do that. 758 00:38:54,580 --> 00:38:57,580 Don't do that for me, please. Thank you anyways. 759 00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:59,780 I mean, you can pray for me normal. 760 00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:01,220 Just you do it. Just you. 761 00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:04,380 That's great, you know, because it's. 762 00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:06,300 Yeah. So you get done with that. 763 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,100 And then you proceed forward. And this is like a really 764 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,220 condensed, I mean this, this ceremony takes 2 hours. 765 00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:15,300 So if I sat here and told you word for word, we'd be here a 766 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,580 long time. So this is the very condensed 767 00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:23,020 version of an endowment session. So then you go on to the next 768 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:28,460 room, which is a fake veil. It's curtains, and you can't see 769 00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:29,860 behind it. And there's holes in the 770 00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:32,970 curtains, so they stick their hand through and you have to do 771 00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:36,570 the secret handshakes and you get a new name, and you tell 772 00:39:36,570 --> 00:39:38,930 them your new name, which also Mason's get a new name. 773 00:39:38,930 --> 00:39:43,370 And Mason's do the handshakes. And your husband goes first 774 00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:47,530 because God calls him by his new name and he is never to repeat 775 00:39:47,530 --> 00:39:49,210 it. Never like not to. 776 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:52,850 He could never tell me no matter what, not no matter what. 777 00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:57,690 And that's because he's going to be called in heaven by God, by 778 00:39:57,690 --> 00:40:02,340 that name, By this new name. And then I get called by my new 779 00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:04,220 name for my husband. Right? 780 00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:10,140 Because he's my God, right. I also thought, like, Oh my 781 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:12,220 gosh, I have this coolest special name. 782 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:14,820 It's just for me, like Gina over there. 783 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:16,300 I like. I guess I like Gina today. 784 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:19,540 Gina over there doesn't have the same name as me. 785 00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:23,900 So I found out later I was like, oh, I forgot my name. 786 00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:25,940 Crap. And so. 787 00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:28,740 They call, you call, and they're like, what day did you go 788 00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:30,180 through? And then you tell them and 789 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,580 they're like, oh, don't worry, it's this, because everybody's 790 00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:36,460 name's the same. On that day, everybody got the 791 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:40,060 same name. Damn, I know I was mad. 792 00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:43,620 I was like, wow, OK, Here. You think it's like a special 793 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:45,980 thing from God, and you just find out like, oh, let me check 794 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:47,380 that, OK? No. 795 00:40:48,730 --> 00:40:51,010 Right. This is a Thursday K. 796 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:53,170 You're Aaron. Yep. 797 00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:56,690 And so I was Abigail. You're not supposed to say that 798 00:40:56,770 --> 00:41:00,130 ever. But I don't believe in this 799 00:41:00,130 --> 00:41:02,210 stuff anymore. And I think that it's good to 800 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:05,770 just put it out because it isn't part of my life and I'm not 801 00:41:05,770 --> 00:41:09,370 going to accept it. So This is why I do this. 802 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:12,530 And so then you do the little secret handshakes. 803 00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:17,170 These are to pass the Sentinels and angels that protect God so 804 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:18,730 that you can get through to heaven. 805 00:41:19,850 --> 00:41:23,050 And if you don't know them and if you forget them, then I 806 00:41:23,050 --> 00:41:27,570 guess, I guess you don't go to heaven, so you have to go back. 807 00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:31,050 Then you go through the into this beautiful celestial room, 808 00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:33,770 which is supposed to be like heaven, and you can sit there 809 00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:36,650 and talk or whatever, but you're kind of done with that part. 810 00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:39,690 And so basically you made it to heaven, you know? 811 00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:44,000 And I I remember thinking like, hey, that sucks. 812 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,920 I mean, we have these new secret things. 813 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,160 And I've never had a secret between me and my husband. 814 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,920 Like, at that point, obviously he had a lot later. 815 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,800 But at that point I was like, that's weird. 816 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,920 And then also like, God calls him, but not me. 817 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640 Like it. It's very, it's a weird 818 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,120 situation. So then you go to get married in 819 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,040 the temple, which you would think, like in your wedding 820 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,520 dress and your family. And I do. 821 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,400 No, no. You wear the same outfit that 822 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,720 you wear with your fig leaf apron and your little white, 823 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,200 very plain clothing. They don't want big poofy dress. 824 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,360 They don't want any of that stuff. 825 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,800 If you do wear your wedding dress, you have to wear this 826 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920 stuff over the top. So you still wear the fig leaf, 827 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,080 like the little robe, all the things. 828 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,080 So yeah, And you've got the magical underwear on, and then 829 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,520 you've got your wedding dress, and then you've got the robe, 830 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,410 and then you've got, you know, all this. 831 00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:40,810 Oh, the veil, 'cause we used to have to veil our faces because 832 00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:43,970 we weren't worthy to see the priesthood stuff, because we 833 00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:49,170 were women. So you got all this stuff on and 834 00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:54,490 you go to an altar and no one can come that is not worthy to 835 00:42:54,490 --> 00:42:56,250 be there. If they don't have a temple 836 00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:57,970 recommended, they don't get to come to your wedding. 837 00:42:57,970 --> 00:43:00,010 Sorry. And they don't care if it's your 838 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:01,730 mom. You don't get to go. 839 00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:06,280 No, they make no exceptions. What's the criteria for that? 840 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,880 Then you have to be Mormon. You have to have gone through 841 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480 the temple, which, remember, if your convert takes a year, like, 842 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,360 it's not, it's not like you can be like, oh, I have three months 843 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200 till a wedding and I can just go do this. 844 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,920 No, none of that. It's going to take time. 845 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,160 And so pay all your tithing, 10% tithing, be morally clean. 846 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,840 I'm not saying the rules are bad, like, some of them are 847 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,720 good. Some of those rules are like, 848 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,600 OK, but I can understand, yeah, people have addictions. 849 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,340 People have this. Like, I get it, you aren't 850 00:43:36,340 --> 00:43:38,220 supposed to smoke. Drink. 851 00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:40,620 They have. OK, A lot of people get this 852 00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:42,780 twisted. They think you're not supposed 853 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:44,740 to have caffeine. That's not true. 854 00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:48,740 Coca-Cola is owned by the Mormons and we drink Coke. 855 00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:53,900 OK, it's it's the fact that back then they used to say no hot 856 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,420 drinks, and the only hot drinks back then were coffee and tea. 857 00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:02,020 Well, so back they just have shortened it to the coffee and 858 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:03,380 tea. And then when I asked somebody 859 00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:05,460 about it, that was higher up because I was like, what's the 860 00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:07,820 deal with the coffee and tea? Like, it's so weird because Coke 861 00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:10,260 is bad for you too, you know, or whatever. 862 00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:13,780 And they're like, oh, it's the tannic acid in there and blah, 863 00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:15,340 blah. Like like Joseph Smith knew 864 00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:17,140 about this, right? No, it's probably like a 865 00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:18,780 shortage of it. And they just didn't want to 866 00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:20,940 hear people complaining that they didn't have it anymore or 867 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:22,580 whatever. I get it. 868 00:44:22,580 --> 00:44:24,460 You're not supposed to be addicted to anything. 869 00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:28,680 They really push, like don't be addicted to, you know, even 870 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,240 Coke. Don't be addicted to anything. 871 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,840 Don't tattoo your body. Your body is a temple. 872 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,760 But every girl I've ever known in the Mormon church has boob 873 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:43,160 job, so that's fine. But yeah, it's just like, it's 874 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,840 like the Kardashians in Modesty, like it's very strange. 875 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,400 And so everything like that, it's all good for you. 876 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,240 I get it. You have to go to church a lot. 877 00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:00,240 You have to when I say pay 10% of your earnings, I mean after 878 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,240 after you get your W twos and you do your taxes, you have to 879 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,000 take your taxes in and meet with the Bishop and show them all 880 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,280 your financials. Like, this is not a joke and if 881 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,240 you're negative you, you like owe the church money and and 882 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,960 then on top of it if you don't have the money because sometimes 883 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,840 people are like, well, it's either I have gas and stuff for 884 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,840 food and money for food, like, or I pay you and they're like, 885 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,240 oh, we'll give you food, pay the tithing. 886 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,640 Well, it's a double end, like good for them because then 887 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,800 they're giving charity by giving them food because they own their 888 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,840 own warehouses. They do all that, they do all 889 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,880 that. They have canned everything, 890 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,980 everything. And so like meats processed by 891 00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:50,020 the church, flour processed by the like, everything, they are 892 00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:54,620 very self sustained on their welfare program and so they'll 893 00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:56,340 give you that, but they'll take your money. 894 00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:59,380 So still it's a charitable donation that's not taxed and 895 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:01,740 they gave you a charitable donation that's not taxed. 896 00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:03,820 So it's it's a win win, you know? 897 00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:09,050 And sometimes you end up with a crappy job because if you didn't 898 00:46:09,210 --> 00:46:12,410 do what you needed to do, then like one time we owed money and 899 00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:15,250 we had to be janitors for the church and like, scrub toilets 900 00:46:15,250 --> 00:46:16,570 and stuff. Like, yeah. 901 00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:21,370 And so I'm. I'm not saying there's not other 902 00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:24,210 churches that probably do that. Maybe there is, you know, like 903 00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:28,170 maybe people volunteer for that or whatever, but everybody has a 904 00:46:28,170 --> 00:46:31,550 calling. So like some people get called 905 00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:35,230 to be like the teacher for the little 5 year olds and they 906 00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:37,310 don't want to. Like my grandma got that calling 907 00:46:37,310 --> 00:46:38,990 and she was like, I don't want to teach little kids. 908 00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:40,350 I don't like little kids that much. 909 00:46:40,350 --> 00:46:42,430 Like, you know, they're cute and all. 910 00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:47,030 But I raised my kids. Yeah, she was like, I don't want 911 00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:49,750 to do that. And you have to do it unless you 912 00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:51,590 have a really good reason not to do it. 913 00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:53,470 And they give everybody a calling. 914 00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:57,350 So everybody in the church helps run the church because then 915 00:46:57,350 --> 00:47:00,550 you're helping like you don't get paid for any of this. 916 00:47:00,550 --> 00:47:04,270 Like the Bishop over like the church, which would be like a 917 00:47:04,270 --> 00:47:08,990 local priest. He takes on everything for all 918 00:47:08,990 --> 00:47:12,430 of the whole church and does these interviews and all this 919 00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:15,150 stuff. And he's like at he's literally 920 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:18,670 at the church 24 hours a day, basically for a long time. 921 00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:22,830 I mean, he goes to work and then goes to the church and they do 922 00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:26,870 it all for free. And this all runs itself like, 923 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:33,170 and it's all it's all free. And so it it's kind of ingenious 924 00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:34,930 in a way, like even their library. 925 00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:37,570 Oh, the librarians, It's her calling. 926 00:47:37,770 --> 00:47:41,450 That's what God told her to do, and they're still breaking in. 927 00:47:41,610 --> 00:47:43,850 Money and still breaking in. Money and still breaking. 928 00:47:44,410 --> 00:47:47,490 And that's so similar to like Scientology. 929 00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:49,850 It's fair. I think so too. 930 00:47:49,850 --> 00:47:52,290 And and the the only thing that's different is, is they 931 00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:56,050 don't rule over your life with like you can't ever get married 932 00:47:56,050 --> 00:47:58,990 if you join the Sea Org. But they're more like, yeah, you 933 00:47:58,990 --> 00:48:01,550 can do whatever you want, but then we want you here to report 934 00:48:01,550 --> 00:48:06,430 when we tell you to it. It's a little bit more free, but 935 00:48:06,430 --> 00:48:09,710 it's still very controlled. It's still very controlled. 936 00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:13,310 I I think it's like Scientology and the Jehovah's Witnesses had 937 00:48:13,310 --> 00:48:14,870 a baby. That's how I feel. 938 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:16,870 I mean that like the way they run it that. 939 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:22,040 Could and I can see that. And so you know, that's fine. 940 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,560 Whatever. They can do whatever they want 941 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,920 as a as a church if they don't bring God into it. 942 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,520 That's where I get upset. Like if you want to say you're 943 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,000 the Church of Masons, whatever, 'cause that's what you're doing, 944 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080 then do that and I will respect it. 945 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,400 But you're you're lying to people. 946 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,160 You're telling them they can't go to the top heaven if they 947 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,760 don't do these, but you know, things. 948 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:49,230 So here you are getting married and you're leaning over an 949 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:51,630 altar. So the altar is like sideways. 950 00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:54,470 And he is leaning, kneeling, and I'm kneeling. 951 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:57,990 And you're holding hands over this altar and, you know, some 952 00:48:57,990 --> 00:49:00,430 things that are dark. And then they have Infinity 953 00:49:00,430 --> 00:49:01,750 mirrors. You know what I'm talking about, 954 00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:05,430 right? Like all the way down this whole 955 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:07,670 way. And so you look into the 956 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:09,910 Infinity mirrors, and you're like, I'm going to be with you 957 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:12,710 for time and all eternity. And what does God say in the 958 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:14,070 Bible? No, that's not a thing. 959 00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,700 It says there is no marriage in heaven. 960 00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:18,540 There is no male or female or in heaven. 961 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,380 You will be as the angels. The angels don't have wives. 962 00:49:21,380 --> 00:49:23,740 That's why they freaking came down here and gotten deep crap 963 00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:26,140 with God. We they're not supposed to 964 00:49:26,140 --> 00:49:27,740 procreate. They're not supposed to have 965 00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:29,260 sex. They're not supposed to be 966 00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:31,700 married. That's the whole point of the 967 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:33,660 Angel story of why they got in trouble. 968 00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:37,740 OK, so I'm like, all right, whatever. 969 00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:41,660 You really believe that? And I feel like that in itself 970 00:49:41,660 --> 00:49:45,080 was so powerful. And I think, I think he got this 971 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,720 part. Now I'll get into what I think 972 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:51,400 about what happened with him. But that particular piece, he 973 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,440 saw his wife lose a lot of children and he saw his mother 974 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,920 lose children. And I'm sure he saw the 975 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,360 heartbreak in them. And I think it was maybe like a 976 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640 like this will help, maybe this will help, you know. 977 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,160 And then look at how wonderful it works. 978 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,480 If you go talk to somebody that's lost their child and 979 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,320 you're like, you will be with them in heaven. 980 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,330 If you do these things, people were gonna do the things, you 981 00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:20,650 know, that's very powerful. That's like, 'cause I, my, my 982 00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:24,690 mom lost my brother. And if she didn't know all the 983 00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:27,610 things that we do know that would have worked with her. 984 00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:29,210 She would have done almost anything. 985 00:50:29,330 --> 00:50:32,930 You know it. It's so horrible for them and. 986 00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:35,450 Right. Especially in a state where 987 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:39,090 you're so vulnerable way. And and in these other 988 00:50:39,090 --> 00:50:43,360 countries, they love now to focus on these countries where 989 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,120 they're a little bit behind, like in Latin America or Africa. 990 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,560 And and then, you know, they don't hear anything else and 991 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440 they think, oh, this is wonderful, 'cause these people 992 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,080 help, remember, they help take care of you, they help you with 993 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,160 a lot of things. You know, you feel very 994 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,000 inclusive, you feel very, it's camaraderie. 995 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,530 You feel like you have like if I needed to move tomorrow and I 996 00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:09,850 had no help, I could call the Bishop Rick and I would say I 997 00:51:09,850 --> 00:51:12,650 really need help. Oh can you send men? 998 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:14,730 Oh Yep. Here would be a bunch of 999 00:51:14,730 --> 00:51:17,730 strangers that I don't even really know that well that are 1000 00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:19,650 my neighbors that were called by the Bishop. 1001 00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:24,450 You need to go help sister Anderson and so or like I have a 1002 00:51:24,450 --> 00:51:27,450 baby. Everybody bakes casseroles for 1003 00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:31,290 this lady and and helps her out. You know, somebody comes and 1004 00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:33,770 does laundry or whatever. I'm not saying there's not 1005 00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:36,250 perks. There's perks just like in the 1006 00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:39,570 Masons or any anything. I mean, there's perks, yeah, of 1007 00:51:39,570 --> 00:51:41,450 course. Why would you even do it if not, 1008 00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:45,770 you know. And so I'm very wiggly also 1009 00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:47,770 'cause I have a bad back. So sorry about that. 1010 00:51:47,810 --> 00:51:53,210 You're fine. So anyways, they, they have you 1011 00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:56,250 look into the Infinity Mirrors, they don't have, you do like the 1012 00:51:56,290 --> 00:51:58,370 I do's. It's very different. 1013 00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:00,730 He basically says his own prayer over you. 1014 00:52:00,730 --> 00:52:04,420 And you know, they have their own set stuff they say, which 1015 00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:06,980 I've tried to block out, but it it's basic. 1016 00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:09,260 I mean just the time and all eternity thing. 1017 00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:16,300 And so after that time, a woman is sealed to that one man for 1018 00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,940 time and all eternity. The man, however, because of 1019 00:52:19,940 --> 00:52:23,580 polygamy, can marry if we get a divorce. 1020 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:26,780 You can get married tomorrow. That really doesn't matter if I 1021 00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:29,540 want to get married in the temple again tomorrow in the 1022 00:52:29,540 --> 00:52:32,260 temple, not regular in the temple. 1023 00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:34,990 If I want to have another temple marriage because my husband 1024 00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:37,750 died, say he died, like it's a legit thing. 1025 00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:41,070 Like I can't control that and I meet somebody and I want to do 1026 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:44,390 that. My if my Bishop has to approve 1027 00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:48,950 it, if my husband is alive and it is a divorce, my husband, my 1028 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:52,190 ex-husband has to approve it. So he could be a real douche and 1029 00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:55,350 just be like, yeah, I'm not signing that, I don't. 1030 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:59,920 And that has happened many times because then you have to go 1031 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,960 through a whole board and like a hearing and like it's like a 1032 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,560 whole big thing. And so any children that are 1033 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,600 born underneath that covenant of marriage, they say underneath 1034 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,680 the covenant are automatically covered. 1035 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,280 So, like, I had another son, and me and that husband were talking 1036 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,170 about going through the temple. And I said, well, what about my 1037 00:53:23,170 --> 00:53:24,850 son? We need to get a recommend for 1038 00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:29,130 my son so that he can be sealed to us like as a family forever. 1039 00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:33,170 This is what they push. And the the guy kind of, you 1040 00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:34,650 could tell he wasn't super comfy. 1041 00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:38,050 He goes, no, you don't. And I'm like, what do you mean I 1042 00:53:38,050 --> 00:53:41,210 don't? And he's like, well, he was born 1043 00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:43,090 under the covenant. I'm like, yeah, to my 1044 00:53:43,090 --> 00:53:47,370 ex-husband, who's a weirdo person that's on meth and not 1045 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:49,410 living it at all. What are you talking about? 1046 00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:52,890 And my husband is like, he's a redhead back then. 1047 00:53:53,610 --> 00:53:57,050 And he was turning red every, like literally from head to toe. 1048 00:53:57,050 --> 00:53:58,530 He was red, I think at this point. 1049 00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:01,010 Because remember, this man is raising my other children that 1050 00:54:01,010 --> 00:54:03,050 were the other man's children, and he just took off. 1051 00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:09,170 So he's like, are you, are you trying to tell me my son is 1052 00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:14,970 already covered because her ex-husband and he's like, well, 1053 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:17,530 it'll all be fine. It'll be switched when you guys 1054 00:54:17,530 --> 00:54:21,360 go through. And I'm really like my, my 1055 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,200 husband at the time, he was like, yeah, we're done. 1056 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120 I'm not doing this, like, at all. 1057 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,800 Like, that's insane. That's crazy. 1058 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,280 I don't even know. And he was, like, so upset. 1059 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,840 He was already sketchy about it. And that just was that was it. 1060 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,800 That was like the straw, you know? 1061 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Right. No kidding. 1062 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,200 Yeah. He just had had it. 1063 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,280 I mean, he wasn't super. He kind of was doing it for me 1064 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,790 anyways. And so I was like, yeah, that 1065 00:54:48,790 --> 00:54:52,230 would make me mad, like I understood his position and I I 1066 00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:54,990 respected it, which actually saved me probably another good 1067 00:54:54,990 --> 00:54:58,750 15 years, 'cause if I had gone back then, I don't know if I'd 1068 00:54:58,750 --> 00:55:01,110 ever have got out, I don't know. I don't know. 1069 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:04,150 It would have been hard. It would have been way harder. 1070 00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:08,550 So I ended up we, we were married for a good ten years 1071 00:55:08,550 --> 00:55:11,150 before Little Miss Polygamous came into the picture. 1072 00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:17,480 And we had on a rocky road because he had mental illness, 1073 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,400 which I don't blame him for that. 1074 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,960 I also, he told me he disclosed it. 1075 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,760 I was 17. I was like, yeah, you take your 1076 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,360 pill, right? Like, it's fine, totally fine. 1077 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,040 And he's like, yeah, but sometimes it's really bad And I 1078 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,040 like would just got out of alcohol rehab from like being 1079 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,320 locked down, like because the military threw me in there 1080 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,920 because I showed up to work drunk and I'm like, OK, well, 1081 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,240 that's not good. But doesn't have a car. 1082 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,920 Divorced, like has a kid. I'm like, well, used to be on 1083 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,800 meth, like all this stuff. So. 1084 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,720 But I'm a kid and I'm like, yeah, I love you. 1085 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,280 It's totally fine. You know, just take your pill. 1086 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,080 And I was so delusional. I look back at that and I'm 1087 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:02,440 like, OK, yeah, great. So we get divorced. 1088 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,440 He goes completely off the deep end, like, 'cause the girl 1089 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,720 didn't leave her husband and I wasn't going to take him back 1090 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,640 after he did that. So I mean twice. 1091 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,240 Like I, he did take him back once, but like twice is twice 1092 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,880 too many. It's just ridiculous. 1093 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,120 And so I was like, no. So when he figured out, he was 1094 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,760 just kind of, oh, I'm on an island alone now. 1095 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,560 That sucks. He kind of went off the deep 1096 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,360 end. And I do feel bad about that 1097 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,040 because not that I caused it or could do anything about it, but 1098 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,600 the fact that it happened, I mean, I'm I'm obviously I feel 1099 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,210 bad for anybody in that situation. 1100 00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:42,730 Hopefully you guys can't hear my dog yelling at me through the 1101 00:56:42,730 --> 00:56:44,210 door. Can you hear it? 1102 00:56:44,650 --> 00:56:48,850 Yeah, it's OK though. Well, he's going to be naughty 1103 00:56:48,850 --> 00:56:51,410 for a minute. The other night my I started 1104 00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:54,330 recording and then I realized my cat was in the in the room with 1105 00:56:54,330 --> 00:57:00,850 me and was running out. He's usually well, I'm his 1106 00:57:00,850 --> 00:57:02,690 master, so he's always like mom, Mommy. 1107 00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:06,130 Yeah, he's huge. He's huge. 1108 00:57:06,210 --> 00:57:09,480 He shouldn't need a mommy, but he he, he needs his mommy. 1109 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,000 So yeah, it's one of those things. 1110 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,480 But so he does have a really rough go of it. 1111 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,000 And like I said, I'm not heartless. 1112 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880 Like that was horrible. Like, I wouldn't wish that on 1113 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,560 anybody, you know? I mean, it was sad and yucky and 1114 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960 yeah, so he goes off the deep end. 1115 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,800 I get remarried and I'm still 100% all about the church, like, 1116 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,800 and then my family is, my grandma is. 1117 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,680 And I remember after I went through the temple, I said, 1118 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,800 grandma, what the hell? What are we doing? 1119 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,520 What the hell was that? You know, somebody could have 1120 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,240 told me. She's like, oh, we can't tell. 1121 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,480 I'm like, yeah, but that was a lot like that was. 1122 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,600 And she just looked at me and she's like, you'll get used to 1123 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,520 it. And that was my answer. 1124 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,560 And I was like, I think I'm going to get used to it, you 1125 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,380 know, and I never did. So after you go through for 1126 00:58:06,380 --> 00:58:08,860 yourself, here comes the dead people again. 1127 00:58:09,340 --> 00:58:13,100 You go through for dead people. After that, every time you go 1128 00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:16,100 through after the first time, you do it for dead people 1129 00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:19,620 because Mormons believe there's three heavens. 1130 00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:21,860 And then there's like this wading area. 1131 00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:24,980 So there's the celestial Kingdom, and then there's the 1132 00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:27,980 telestial Kingdom, and then there's the terrestrial Kingdom. 1133 00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:30,220 And they're all different kingdoms, depending on how good 1134 00:58:30,220 --> 00:58:32,540 you were here. And even if you were the best of 1135 00:58:32,540 --> 00:58:35,180 the best of the best and you didn't go to the temple, you 1136 00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:38,580 can't go live with God because you aren't good enough. 1137 00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:44,180 So yeah, So these other people that were, like, good, 'cause I 1138 00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:47,340 used to say things like, well, what about Mother Teresa? 1139 00:58:47,420 --> 00:58:49,460 You're like, really good, good people. 1140 00:58:49,460 --> 00:58:53,620 You know, like, not necessarily. I mean that that's also, we 1141 00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:56,420 don't want to go conspiratorial on Mother Teresa, but there 1142 00:58:56,420 --> 00:58:59,060 could be things with people. But you get what I'm saying, 1143 00:58:59,060 --> 00:59:03,450 Like, the best people that live their life the best they could 1144 00:59:03,890 --> 00:59:06,050 and were really good people. And she's like, oh, well, 1145 00:59:06,050 --> 00:59:10,250 they're waiting in heaven for you to go do this work so that 1146 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:12,970 they can go to the bigger heaven and live with God. 1147 00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:19,210 And I'm like, OK, so it was so creepy for me that and then you 1148 00:59:19,210 --> 00:59:21,130 practice the handshakes and all the things. 1149 00:59:21,130 --> 00:59:25,170 So it helps put it in your brain, you know, and so that you 1150 00:59:25,170 --> 00:59:26,850 can remember it for when you die. 1151 00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:30,340 And I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that one. 1152 00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:35,220 So you can also do marriages for them, for people, the dead 1153 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:38,820 people, and do that ceiling with the mirrors, like I said. 1154 00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:43,460 And and I usually would gear toward that because the other 1155 00:59:43,460 --> 00:59:47,900 thing just creeped me out a lot. I was like, the marriages don't 1156 00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:49,980 seem so bad. We'll just go there, you know, 1157 00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:53,220 and do that. And so we did that for quite 1158 00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:56,140 some time and we were really active for quite some time and 1159 00:59:56,610 --> 00:59:59,370 did all the things, like I said, really into the church. 1160 00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:02,330 My grandma was super happy and my grandma raised me, so there 1161 01:00:02,330 --> 01:00:06,290 was this huge heaviness on me, 'cause even my grandpa 1162 01:00:06,290 --> 01:00:09,250 eventually came around and went through the temple with my 1163 01:00:09,250 --> 01:00:12,570 grandma, and he was old when he went through, I think he was in 1164 01:00:12,570 --> 01:00:15,890 his fifth. Like I say, old For him, 50s is 1165 01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:21,250 not old anymore, but for him, he only lived till he was 63, so 1166 01:00:21,250 --> 01:00:24,090 that was old for him 'cause he was almost dead, you know. 1167 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:30,070 So he didn't obviously know that was going to happen, but he went 1168 01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:33,070 through and they did that, and he got really involved in it. 1169 01:00:33,590 --> 01:00:36,910 But even he told me once, he said, you know, he, he was 1170 01:00:36,910 --> 01:00:38,950 raised Catholic. And he said, I still believe in 1171 01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:42,270 the Trinity. And I was like, oh, yeah. 1172 01:00:42,670 --> 01:00:45,190 And he's like, yeah, I don't know about the whole 'cause they 1173 01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:47,150 don't. They believe God is the Father, 1174 01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:50,030 Jesus is the Son, and the Holy Ghost is somebody completely 1175 01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:53,150 different. And so Jesus was here. 1176 01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:58,110 He was born a flesh like a man. Like they believe that, like 1177 01:00:58,550 --> 01:01:00,910 basically like God had sex with Mary. 1178 01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:03,350 Like, really? Yeah. 1179 01:01:03,350 --> 01:01:06,150 And not like just divine, you know. 1180 01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:10,030 So that that was something else that Mormons believe that most 1181 01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:16,030 people do not believe. And then so yeah, that's that's 1182 01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:17,710 another weird thing that they believe. 1183 01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:22,910 So I I was very into that. And then my grandpa dies. 1184 01:01:23,110 --> 01:01:27,070 And then after my grandpa died, I felt so responsible for my 1185 01:01:27,070 --> 01:01:32,350 grandma because, I mean, he died so young and it sucked and it 1186 01:01:32,350 --> 01:01:33,750 was rapid. It was cancer. 1187 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:36,670 I think we only had like 3 weeks to figure everything out and it 1188 01:01:36,670 --> 01:01:40,790 was just so bad. And so then she had lost a son. 1189 01:01:40,790 --> 01:01:43,550 She had had all this bad stuff happen and it was all really 1190 01:01:43,550 --> 01:01:47,570 bad. You know, she had a really hard 1191 01:01:47,570 --> 01:01:51,610 end of her life there. And so I felt like this heavy 1192 01:01:51,610 --> 01:01:55,650 burden on me to be like, you can't go mess everything up for 1193 01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:57,130 her. Like, that's really sad. 1194 01:01:57,130 --> 01:02:00,490 So I kept trying to. I took my girls to church. 1195 01:02:00,490 --> 01:02:03,410 I did the whole church thing. Even if my ex, my my husband 1196 01:02:03,410 --> 01:02:07,490 that said no, I'm not going to go through, you know, even if he 1197 01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:09,610 didn't go, we would go quite often. 1198 01:02:10,250 --> 01:02:13,530 And even if I didn't go, my girls would go with my grandma. 1199 01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:17,980 And so when I left the church, basically I lost most of my 1200 01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:20,500 family. My grandma didn't only become a 1201 01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,420 little insane. She called CPS. 1202 01:02:24,460 --> 01:02:28,540 She said I beat my kids. She tried to take my kids away. 1203 01:02:28,820 --> 01:02:31,020 I've never beat my kids. I've yelled at my kids. 1204 01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:34,900 And I mean, like, I feel bad about how I was about the 1205 01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:38,900 yelling now. But like, yeah, it was not like 1206 01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:43,860 I didn't beat my kids, you know? And so CPS got called. 1207 01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:47,020 That case was dropped. It was so silly. 1208 01:02:47,060 --> 01:02:50,700 I mean, but my daughter ended up living with her for a short 1209 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:53,940 time, and she just wanted what she wanted. 1210 01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:59,540 She was 17, you know? And so most of my family at that 1211 01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:02,340 point alienated me and dropped me. 1212 01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:06,140 And when my grandma couldn't keep my kid, she sued me for 1213 01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:10,620 every penny she ever spent on my kids, all the school clothes, 1214 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,240 every trip to Disneyland. The I specifically said, you do 1215 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,320 not have the money for this, Do not buy Disneyland tickets. 1216 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,320 And she went and told my kids that they were going to 1217 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,560 Disneyland on Christmas morning. What do you, what do you do with 1218 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,640 that? You know? 1219 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,040 And so I'm like, no, no, my husband has to work and 1220 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,480 everything. It's not going to work, blah 1221 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,960 blah, blah. She bought him a ticket to come 1222 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,890 back to like ride home on an airplane, everything. 1223 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:40,170 She made it happen and I was like, this is just not good, 1224 01:03:40,330 --> 01:03:42,770 'cause I knew she was elderly, I knew she didn't have a lot of 1225 01:03:42,770 --> 01:03:48,250 money, you know, And so that ended up breaking the what 1226 01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:53,090 little pieces of family I had left basically off. 1227 01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:55,730 Other than my mom. My mom had already left the 1228 01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:59,610 church and became a non denominational Christian and 1229 01:03:59,610 --> 01:04:02,610 they were so mean about it. Like, oh, you go into your 1230 01:04:02,610 --> 01:04:06,330 rock'n'roll Jesus church today and like really rude stuff. 1231 01:04:06,370 --> 01:04:09,250 And Mormons are like that. They are like really snarky that 1232 01:04:09,250 --> 01:04:11,490 way. Like I remember one time one of 1233 01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:14,050 our kids was getting baptized and I was like we should invite 1234 01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:18,290 other people in the family, you know, and my husband's like, 1235 01:04:18,290 --> 01:04:21,410 don't because his family's really LDS. 1236 01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:25,170 And I remember saying to them, well she's getting baptized, you 1237 01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:27,330 know, on Sunday. And they looked at me and said, 1238 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:32,210 baptized to what? And I was like God. 1239 01:04:34,770 --> 01:04:37,650 And they were like, oh, you know, 'cause they get baptized 1240 01:04:37,650 --> 01:04:43,010 to the church. So yeah, So that's basically my 1241 01:04:43,010 --> 01:04:45,130 life kind of in a nutshell for that. 1242 01:04:45,130 --> 01:04:48,210 After that, I left. I found my own way. 1243 01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:51,050 I definitely found God. It took a long time to get some 1244 01:04:51,050 --> 01:04:54,750 of these curses off of me, and I don't still feel they're 100% 1245 01:04:54,750 --> 01:04:57,510 gone. Like, even in my ancestry DNA 1246 01:04:57,550 --> 01:05:00,150 profile, it's just as Mormon settler. 1247 01:05:00,710 --> 01:05:06,910 I mean, like it's deep, it's deep in my stuff, like my family 1248 01:05:06,910 --> 01:05:10,390 names are high up, my my people are high up. 1249 01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:13,310 And it's just one of those things you have to deal with 1250 01:05:13,310 --> 01:05:16,630 constantly. I don't think that it ever fully 1251 01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:18,390 goes away. I think you have to just keep 1252 01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:20,510 fighting it, you know? I don't know. 1253 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,280 So, so then what do you what do you believe in? 1254 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,960 What do you believe now? So I just only believe in the 1255 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,680 Bible and I believe in the Trinity and I don't believe in 1256 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,360 man. I don't believe in any church. 1257 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,000 I don't believe. I mean I do. 1258 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,040 I think you could go to a church that's non denominational and 1259 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,400 worship with others and have a nice time and and you know have 1260 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,000 a good service. Sure. 1261 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,760 I'll never belong to another church, like belong like I am a 1262 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,440 patron of this church. Period. 1263 01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:56,060 Because I belong to God. I don't belong to a man. 1264 01:05:56,220 --> 01:05:57,900 I don't belong to any of that crap. 1265 01:05:58,020 --> 01:06:00,340 He doesn't live in buildings. He tells us this. 1266 01:06:00,780 --> 01:06:03,220 If I want to talk to God, I talk to God. 1267 01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:05,860 There should be nothing between you and God, period. 1268 01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,380 Like it's not, it's not meant to be that way. 1269 01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:12,380 And I think the people that don't feel that feel really 1270 01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:16,980 alienated sometimes by religion and never feel the whole, the 1271 01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:21,970 whole thing, which is so sad. And in Mormonism, the grace card 1272 01:06:21,970 --> 01:06:24,970 is so not there. Like, they're very hard on 1273 01:06:24,970 --> 01:06:26,970 people. Right. 1274 01:06:27,290 --> 01:06:31,130 And I was I was Catholic. I was born and raised in into 1275 01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:35,090 the church and I stopped doing when I was 18. 1276 01:06:35,330 --> 01:06:39,490 And I just, you know there was things to me that I just I I 1277 01:06:39,490 --> 01:06:42,130 wasn't about it. It just it didn't it didn't suit 1278 01:06:42,130 --> 01:06:44,250 me. I just, I I knew that things 1279 01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:48,490 just was like, I don't feel it so like because of that. 1280 01:06:48,850 --> 01:06:53,330 I end up having you know, problems for, you know, some 1281 01:06:53,330 --> 01:06:58,210 time with, you know, you know, faith and and spirituality and 1282 01:06:58,210 --> 01:07:01,170 things like that. So I'm sitting here and I'm just 1283 01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:05,410 like, you know, it wasn't until recently when I'm starting to 1284 01:07:05,410 --> 01:07:09,530 like come across that, OK, all this stuff that I started 1285 01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:14,210 believing with the metaphysical and and stuff like that, and 1286 01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:18,640 it's like it it all connects. Every single, every single bit 1287 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,600 of it. Like I can sit here with my 1288 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,960 pendulum and do pendulum work. And it's not some demonic, 1289 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,840 satanic thing that I'm doing. And I can still sit here and 1290 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:35,960 believe in God and be able to, you know, be a a good person and 1291 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,480 you know and and love everybody in the world and all this stuff 1292 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,440 but still have these, you know, these these ties that a lot of 1293 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,140 people would, you know, consider bad well. 1294 01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:50,180 And I think that the biggest thing as a Christian is and and 1295 01:07:50,340 --> 01:07:52,860 I've got a lot of slack on this because I interviewed with a 1296 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:57,700 lady that was like an Oracle and people really gave me crap for 1297 01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:59,500 it. They were like, would you And 1298 01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:03,260 some of the some of the up and coming things I want to do are 1299 01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:07,620 going to be poo pooed because I want to talk to specific people 1300 01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:10,420 about John D Well, you can't go talk to too many Christians that 1301 01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:12,660 know that much about John D They just don't. 1302 01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:16,220 You know, you've got to dig into the occult world to get that 1303 01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:18,700 knowledge and that is what it is. 1304 01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:22,380 You know, I don't think that that necessarily makes anyone a 1305 01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:24,420 bad person. I don't think Mormons are a bad 1306 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:25,979 person. I don't think Masons are a bad 1307 01:08:25,979 --> 01:08:27,660 person. I don't think there's a lot of 1308 01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:30,740 people that are involved in things that you could probably 1309 01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:33,580 even maybe be a Satanist and not be the worst person. 1310 01:08:33,899 --> 01:08:38,140 I think they make you do more things and, oh, but here's the 1311 01:08:38,140 --> 01:08:40,580 problem. And herein lies the problem. 1312 01:08:41,109 --> 01:08:43,390 It's none of my business to judge anyone else. 1313 01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:46,550 Whatever they're doing, whatever they want to do, that is their 1314 01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:49,149 journey. And all I can do is say, this is 1315 01:08:49,149 --> 01:08:51,350 what I do, this is what I believe. 1316 01:08:51,350 --> 01:08:52,790 This is what I'll share with you. 1317 01:08:53,149 --> 01:08:57,510 But you should never, never do, like a whole bunch of pointing 1318 01:08:57,510 --> 01:09:02,510 because you don't know, like I did the pointing as a Mormon and 1319 01:09:02,510 --> 01:09:04,750 I was doing satanic stuff that I didn't know. 1320 01:09:05,710 --> 01:09:09,189 So then what? You know, so then what? 1321 01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:14,710 And so I I think the biggest message for a Christian should 1322 01:09:14,710 --> 01:09:20,670 be about love because Jesus said that on the cross everything was 1323 01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:22,830 hung. You know, everything was hung on 1324 01:09:22,830 --> 01:09:26,310 the cross. And to love your neighbor as as 1325 01:09:26,310 --> 01:09:29,630 he would love us like to be loving to each other. 1326 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:33,069 And that is so important that people, people just don't get 1327 01:09:33,069 --> 01:09:35,029 it. Now IA 100% believe in the 1328 01:09:35,029 --> 01:09:37,189 Bible. I don't cherry pick it even to 1329 01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:39,189 Flat Earth. That's what got me kind of weird 1330 01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:42,420 into that, because there's a lot of biblical references to Flat 1331 01:09:42,460 --> 01:09:45,420 Earth, but I'll tell you. That there's a lot of biblical 1332 01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:47,700 references. All sorts of wild stuff. 1333 01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:53,420 I mean, you think giants, aliens, and UFOSI mean the 1334 01:09:53,420 --> 01:09:54,620 giants are real? Yeah. 1335 01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:56,300 Right. I mean, there's all these 1336 01:09:56,300 --> 01:10:00,660 different things. And I even ran across a a TikTok 1337 01:10:00,660 --> 01:10:04,140 video today that just kind of was like, man, this is such a 1338 01:10:04,140 --> 01:10:06,820 really good point and it was talking about how and like all 1339 01:10:06,820 --> 01:10:12,710 these old depictions of things. And they they start showing one 1340 01:10:12,710 --> 01:10:16,430 thing in particular all the time, Dragons. 1341 01:10:17,710 --> 01:10:21,710 And you know, at one point in time it became to where there's 1342 01:10:21,710 --> 01:10:25,350 like, oh, this is a a mythical creature and all this stuff. 1343 01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:27,910 But then there's all these paintings, all these drawings 1344 01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:32,350 and all these things and it's like, OK, well, maybe that's not 1345 01:10:32,350 --> 01:10:34,270 the case. Maybe this wasn't and these 1346 01:10:34,270 --> 01:10:37,750 people were just painting and drawing what they were seeing. 1347 01:10:38,340 --> 01:10:42,300 And it, you know, and now these are just some sort of extinct 1348 01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:45,140 creature that just is is no longer here. 1349 01:10:45,460 --> 01:10:48,860 Well, it's so representative of like even if you go to the whole 1350 01:10:48,860 --> 01:10:51,860 dinosaur thing, which I don't even know how I feel 100% about 1351 01:10:51,860 --> 01:10:55,820 that, but if it was in existence, then that would 1352 01:10:55,820 --> 01:10:57,980 explain it. You know, the bones that they 1353 01:10:57,980 --> 01:11:01,340 find, the things that they find. Like sometimes you think maybe 1354 01:11:01,340 --> 01:11:04,380 that was part of that, you know, but we'll never know. 1355 01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:06,580 You know what? History is made by the winners. 1356 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,760 History is made by whoever won. They wrote the book. 1357 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,400 That's what you get. That's why. 1358 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,640 It's not his story. Yeah, it's not going to be like 1359 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,360 what people think, you know. But I know this with biblical 1360 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,240 stuff. There is actual Dead Sea Scrolls 1361 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,760 that back it up. And that's why I'm like, OK, 1362 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,760 where's the Mormons? Dead Sea Scrolls? 1363 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,680 They don't have them. Where's the Mormons plates that 1364 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,600 they had? Oh, conveniently, the Angel 1365 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:32,960 needed to take them back to heaven. 1366 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,480 So that's where they are and that's what happened with that. 1367 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,680 So anything that they have, like there supposedly was this huge 1368 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,160 battle out where he found the plates and all these tons of 1369 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,960 people died, that it was worse than any war ever. 1370 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,000 Where's the skeletons? Where's the people? 1371 01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:53,560 Like there's nothing. I mean, you can go dig up World 1372 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,760 War 2 areas and you know, there's gonna be dead people 1373 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,770 where they say so or you, you know, anywhere where they say 1374 01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:04,210 where wars are, whatever. You can go look that up. 1375 01:12:04,210 --> 01:12:06,170 It it, it, there's gonna be proof. 1376 01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:10,810 There's gonna be arrowheads, that proof of Indian, you know, 1377 01:12:10,850 --> 01:12:14,250 reservations or whatever. Back in the day, you know, not 1378 01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:18,210 reservations, but colonies or whatever, They have no proof of 1379 01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:20,490 anything. And that's, you know, that 1380 01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:24,900 speaks, it speaks volumes. And they've had some pretty good 1381 01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:28,500 sized controversies on different things like that And and it's 1382 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:33,260 interesting, but I I think that overall Giants, it's funny you 1383 01:12:33,260 --> 01:12:37,020 bring that up. I think that Joseph Smith and a 1384 01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:42,020 lot of people will say this is like a hallucination. 1385 01:12:42,020 --> 01:12:44,860 He was doing mushrooms or whatever. 1386 01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:48,060 I don't think so, because a hallucination goes away. 1387 01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:51,140 And this went on for years for him. 1388 01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:56,950 So when he was young, he, his mom literally put out after his 1389 01:12:56,950 --> 01:13:01,070 death in a biography that they were a part of the House of a 1390 01:13:01,070 --> 01:13:04,790 Brac. Well, a Braxis is a demon and 1391 01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:08,150 it's a necromancer. So how funny that most of their 1392 01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:13,230 stuff has to deal with death. I mean, you're doing this, these 1393 01:13:13,390 --> 01:13:16,470 things for people that are dead. You're never doing anything for 1394 01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:19,270 the live people except for once in their life. 1395 01:13:19,670 --> 01:13:22,750 But you can go back 30 * a year for dead people. 1396 01:13:23,170 --> 01:13:25,370 What kind of energy is being created there? 1397 01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:28,210 And why? Because this is all about 1398 01:13:28,210 --> 01:13:31,850 necromancy to me. And he saw an apparition. 1399 01:13:31,930 --> 01:13:34,210 He thought it was God the Father and the son. 1400 01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:38,650 OK, that's great. So did John D John D saw an 1401 01:13:38,650 --> 01:13:41,330 Angel and he told him to do what? 1402 01:13:41,890 --> 01:13:42,890 Write a book? Right. 1403 01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:44,770 We get the Enochian alphabet from it. 1404 01:13:44,770 --> 01:13:46,530 And what happened with the Enochian alphabet? 1405 01:13:46,530 --> 01:13:48,090 It started a whole bunch of religions. 1406 01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:52,770 Well, OK, let's go to Jack Parsons and L Ron Hubbard out in 1407 01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:54,530 the desert. What did they see? 1408 01:13:54,610 --> 01:13:56,090 They saw an Angel. And what did it do? 1409 01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:57,690 Told him to write a book. And what did that? 1410 01:13:57,690 --> 01:14:00,610 Then What happened after that? It started a religion, and now 1411 01:14:00,610 --> 01:14:02,890 there's a religion. What did Muhammad see? 1412 01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:05,330 Muhammad saw an Angel. And what happened after that? 1413 01:14:05,410 --> 01:14:07,290 He wrote a book. And what happened after that? 1414 01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:10,530 He has a religion. OK, let's have a fun one. 1415 01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:14,090 Let's mix it up a little. What did Aleister Crowley see? 1416 01:14:14,370 --> 01:14:18,610 He didn't see an Angel, but he saw AWAS, which was an alien. 1417 01:14:18,990 --> 01:14:22,710 Now he was a much darker person so maybe the Angel was able to 1418 01:14:22,710 --> 01:14:25,790 come however it really looked because it knew it wouldn't 1419 01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:28,230 scare him. What's the first thing it says 1420 01:14:28,230 --> 01:14:31,870 in the Bible when when angels come down to people do not be 1421 01:14:31,870 --> 01:14:33,910 afraid because they're terrifying. 1422 01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:38,510 And so it came said write a book and what happened? 1423 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:40,830 The Lima. So all of these things. 1424 01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:43,030 This is why I want to talk to a John D specialist. 1425 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:47,450 All of these things go together and they always talk about he 1426 01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:51,090 just saw the God, the Father and, and you know, the Son and 1427 01:14:51,090 --> 01:14:53,530 one other Moroni. An Angel. 1428 01:14:53,610 --> 01:14:56,850 No, no. He saw a total of 24 angels and 1429 01:14:56,850 --> 01:14:59,530 dead people. Not just angels, but dead people 1430 01:14:59,530 --> 01:15:01,970 like his brother died. He saw him. 1431 01:15:02,170 --> 01:15:05,410 He saw all these dead things and all this stuff and they don't 1432 01:15:05,410 --> 01:15:07,570 bring up any of that. And I'm sorry, that's not just 1433 01:15:07,570 --> 01:15:10,970 one good mushroom trip. Like, come on it it it's not 1434 01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:17,010 just one bad batch of flour. I mean, I mean, maybe maybe it 1435 01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:20,690 helped be more fantastical, but I don't think so. 1436 01:15:20,850 --> 01:15:24,530 You know, I think he saw something and I think that it 1437 01:15:24,530 --> 01:15:29,170 really convicted him. And with Jack Parsons and even 1438 01:15:29,170 --> 01:15:32,570 with John D, what did it require to make it happen? 1439 01:15:32,650 --> 01:15:35,170 Sex magic. What happened with Muhammad? 1440 01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:38,930 Sex magic With polygamy. Having more than one wife. 1441 01:15:39,170 --> 01:15:41,490 What happened with Joseph Smith? Polygamy. 1442 01:15:41,730 --> 01:15:46,160 So it it's just so much of A coincidence that I'm like and we 1443 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,600 all know about Aleister Crowley, I won't even get into his sex 1444 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,080 magic. It's it's a lot. 1445 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,400 He was thrown out of Italy, OK, for his stuff. 1446 01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:00,320 So I just think that people fail to look at the whole picture or 1447 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,400 they know the whole picture. I'm not really sure which one 1448 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,730 because there were parchments that were found in a treasure 1449 01:16:07,730 --> 01:16:09,250 bag. They were known treasure 1450 01:16:09,250 --> 01:16:11,050 diggers. The family was known treasure 1451 01:16:11,050 --> 01:16:14,930 diggers and they also use the dowsing rods and different 1452 01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:18,450 things and they were really into this whole magical type stuff 1453 01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:20,810 and they'll blow it off and say, well, that was everybody was 1454 01:16:20,810 --> 01:16:22,130 back then. It was folk magic. 1455 01:16:22,130 --> 01:16:25,370 So what? OK, but they didn't all serve 1456 01:16:25,370 --> 01:16:27,210 the House of a brack and talk about it. 1457 01:16:27,490 --> 01:16:30,610 Where do we get abracadabra from the House of a brack? 1458 01:16:31,050 --> 01:16:34,050 That's where it comes from. And what do they do? 1459 01:16:34,380 --> 01:16:37,140 What do magicians do? They pull things out of a hat. 1460 01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:41,260 OK, well, Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by 1461 01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:45,100 putting his seer stone in a hat and putting his face in it. 1462 01:16:45,220 --> 01:16:49,420 And then he would say this, write these symbols down, which 1463 01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:52,500 they thought were Egyptian. But I think they were the 1464 01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,220 Enochian alphabet. And I think that was automatic 1465 01:16:56,220 --> 01:16:59,260 writing. This is my own opinion, by the 1466 01:16:59,260 --> 01:16:59,860 way. Everyone. 1467 01:17:00,770 --> 01:17:03,690 But they did say they look like Egyptian symbols. 1468 01:17:03,770 --> 01:17:07,930 Well, in that treasure bag that he had that they found, as they 1469 01:17:07,930 --> 01:17:11,490 call it, the Joseph or the Smith family relics because they want 1470 01:17:11,490 --> 01:17:13,170 to distance it from Joseph Smith. 1471 01:17:13,610 --> 01:17:15,850 But I'll tell you some things that were in it. 1472 01:17:15,850 --> 01:17:18,130 His seer stone, which he was never without. 1473 01:17:18,450 --> 01:17:22,930 OK, so why was the seer stone in the bag with the parchments that 1474 01:17:22,930 --> 01:17:27,090 have a Nokian language in them calling out sigils for certain 1475 01:17:27,090 --> 01:17:32,330 angels or demons? I mean, and and they're 1476 01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:34,850 translated now because people know how to read it. 1477 01:17:35,290 --> 01:17:38,050 And there was three of them, There was three different 1478 01:17:38,050 --> 01:17:40,410 parchments. And they are creepy looking. 1479 01:17:40,490 --> 01:17:44,930 They are super creepy looking. And most of them have some sort 1480 01:17:44,930 --> 01:17:49,050 of sigil on them. And then he also wore a Jupiter 1481 01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:54,810 Talisman his whole life, which was identified by his wife after 1482 01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:58,010 he died that yes, that was his. And yes, she wanted it back. 1483 01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:02,750 So they can't, they can't say that one wasn't his and he 1484 01:18:02,750 --> 01:18:04,710 wasn't even born under the sign of Jupiter. 1485 01:18:04,710 --> 01:18:08,950 It was for a different reason and it and I I think it has to 1486 01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:13,590 do with it. It was the sign for being a 1487 01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:17,910 really good, like smooth talker, helps with women and he had 33 1488 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:22,910 wives, 33 wives and so. Is that the the the same? 1489 01:18:22,910 --> 01:18:29,730 I'm trying to think who it was. I feel like there was maybe like 1490 01:18:29,730 --> 01:18:34,090 some sort of like movie where somebody would you would always 1491 01:18:34,090 --> 01:18:38,090 like see like the the guy like in like the the 70s and and 1492 01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:41,290 stuff the they'd go to the disco and they would you know got 1493 01:18:41,290 --> 01:18:44,330 their their collars puffed down. They got a they got like a you 1494 01:18:44,330 --> 01:18:47,210 know a necklace on it always have like a little little symbol 1495 01:18:47,210 --> 01:18:51,050 on it. And I it's kind of like a almost 1496 01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:54,880 like a weird, like weird. PE looking kind of deal or 1497 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,320 something like that. That's what they are. 1498 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,200 And and his, I mean they have tons of different ones, the 1499 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,320 Talismans. But yes they call for certain 1500 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,120 things and you know they say, oh that was for protection, this 1501 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,360 and that. And I'm like, I know, but still 1502 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,640 you have to look at the whole picture. 1503 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,640 I mean it's pretty convincing. And they have neighbors that 1504 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,400 actually wrote testimony because he got in trouble and got 1505 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,240 arrested for being a treasure digger. 1506 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,150 And and that was like jaywalking back then. 1507 01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:25,830 Like, they really didn't prosecute people for it because 1508 01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:29,070 it everybody did it. It was folk magicky. 1509 01:19:29,070 --> 01:19:31,870 I mean it it was kind of well known back in the day. 1510 01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:33,710 Everybody was looking for stuff, OK. 1511 01:19:34,230 --> 01:19:39,070 But they prosecuted him because his family and him had had duped 1512 01:19:39,070 --> 01:19:42,110 so many people. So all these statements are from 1513 01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:45,950 like a court. It's not like Joe told Mary and 1514 01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:48,030 she wrote it down. No, that's not how it is. 1515 01:19:48,490 --> 01:19:51,530 And he even said they would write circles in the ground with 1516 01:19:51,530 --> 01:19:55,290 swords and they had a Mars knife with, like, the Mars sigil on 1517 01:19:55,290 --> 01:19:57,610 it. And that's a sacrificial thing. 1518 01:19:57,930 --> 01:20:02,290 And then they one night they were trying to find treasure and 1519 01:20:02,290 --> 01:20:04,250 they did this three times. They were walking around 1520 01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:07,330 muttering, and then they sacrificed one of his sheep that 1521 01:20:07,330 --> 01:20:09,570 was a big fat black one at midnight. 1522 01:20:09,850 --> 01:20:12,650 This doesn't sound like it's very on the up and up. 1523 01:20:12,650 --> 01:20:17,930 OK, yeah, this sounds like what it is. 1524 01:20:18,690 --> 01:20:23,330 You know, it's satanic and the church hides all this. 1525 01:20:23,410 --> 01:20:26,970 And that's what's frustrating to me because and then the the 1526 01:20:26,970 --> 01:20:30,210 whole thing with the Masons comes into play where he got his 1527 01:20:30,210 --> 01:20:35,170 Masonic rites through their temple and one month later he 1528 01:20:35,170 --> 01:20:37,770 made the temple rites for the Mormons. 1529 01:20:38,250 --> 01:20:41,090 And that's not a coincidence. Come on, he changed a couple 1530 01:20:41,090 --> 01:20:43,010 little things, but they're so similar. 1531 01:20:43,010 --> 01:20:46,110 They're really similar. And people just want to always 1532 01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:48,790 say, well, he he didn't. He's a poor farm boy. 1533 01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:49,510 He didn't know. No. 1534 01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:52,990 He was really smart. He he got laid up, 'cause he got 1535 01:20:52,990 --> 01:20:56,310 typhoid when he was a kid, and he, his mom begged him not to 1536 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:59,390 cut his leg off, 'cause it got an infection in his leg and it 1537 01:20:59,390 --> 01:21:02,150 went to the bone. And she begged them, don't cut 1538 01:21:02,150 --> 01:21:04,590 off the leg, just cut off the parts that are bad. 1539 01:21:04,590 --> 01:21:06,830 So it took a long time for him to heal. 1540 01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:10,430 And so you're going to read every single thing in the house. 1541 01:21:10,430 --> 01:21:12,390 If you're a poor kid that doesn't have anything, it's 1542 01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:16,870 probably going to be the Bible. One of them and his mom was this 1543 01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:18,990 healer. She was a known healer. 1544 01:21:19,230 --> 01:21:23,750 She was Scottish and Irish is what his his background was. 1545 01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:27,710 They were first generation settlers here and so I'm like 1546 01:21:27,950 --> 01:21:32,590 she probably had a copy of the Magus that's I'm like 98% or he 1547 01:21:32,590 --> 01:21:34,870 got it from this other guy when he was 14. 1548 01:21:35,150 --> 01:21:38,750 I can't decide which I think but neither one will ever be proven. 1549 01:21:39,230 --> 01:21:43,710 But some of the wording is too similar in the and it's just, I 1550 01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:48,410 mean and to the point where he lived when he actually finished 1551 01:21:48,410 --> 01:21:52,610 the Book of Mormon to take it to print, there was backing for it 1552 01:21:52,610 --> 01:21:54,570 because they weren't going to, they weren't going to print it 1553 01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:56,050 because they knew he didn't have money. 1554 01:21:56,330 --> 01:22:01,170 And the printer that was reading it while he's printing it was 1555 01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:06,570 cracking up and actually made a satire of it called the The Book 1556 01:22:06,570 --> 01:22:14,080 of Pukey Eye like Pakai and like Pakuke, you know, And made this 1557 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,240 whole satire on it to the point where they had to go get a 1558 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,320 copyright to get him to quit it because people made that much 1559 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,240 fun of it because they knew the family they knew. 1560 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,720 And I'm like, it's, I mean it's all too coincidental. 1561 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,520 And then he did have a really. So he was more inside. 1562 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,800 And then he had this guy come to town when he was like around 14 1563 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,990 when this all supposedly started and his name was Lumens. 1564 01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:46,230 Last name like like light, like too good. 1565 01:22:46,630 --> 01:22:51,750 And so his soon to be wife, that was her cousin and he had just 1566 01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:54,870 come back from Europe and he had all these books with him. 1567 01:22:55,230 --> 01:22:59,830 He was a doctor. He was a well read doctor and he 1568 01:22:59,830 --> 01:23:03,110 was trying to read people these Greek books and they were like 1569 01:23:03,230 --> 01:23:07,030 oh, he's he knows magic because listen to this weird, you know, 1570 01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:09,710 he knows how to talk weird. Like, look at this. 1571 01:23:10,090 --> 01:23:12,570 So he's seen that. He's seen like, oh, look, they 1572 01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:15,370 all gather around him and think he's great, magical because he 1573 01:23:15,370 --> 01:23:19,250 can read Greek. And I mean, it just plays all 1574 01:23:19,250 --> 01:23:21,610 into it. Like, did that guy give him a 1575 01:23:21,610 --> 01:23:23,610 copy of the Magus? I don't know. 1576 01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:27,210 Even though Joseph had the vision when he was 14, he didn't 1577 01:23:27,370 --> 01:23:30,210 finish with the whole Book of Mormon stuff till he was in his 1578 01:23:30,530 --> 01:23:33,610 mid 20s. You know, So he kept saying the 1579 01:23:33,610 --> 01:23:37,220 angels were delaying him from taking it because he wasn't 1580 01:23:37,220 --> 01:23:39,020 worthy. The first year it was because he 1581 01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:41,780 didn't have his brother and his brother had died. 1582 01:23:42,180 --> 01:23:43,940 And so of course he didn't have his brother. 1583 01:23:44,340 --> 01:23:48,980 And it was kind of funny because the dad came out and posted this 1584 01:23:48,980 --> 01:23:52,260 in the newspaper. So this isn't hearsay and 1585 01:23:52,260 --> 01:23:54,780 there's a copy of it online. People can go look at it, but of 1586 01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:59,100 course people won't. And he wrote this big article 1587 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,900 saying, like, I would never dig up my son, and anyone that says 1588 01:24:01,900 --> 01:24:05,780 so is a liar, blah, blah, blah. And it was just this weird 1589 01:24:05,780 --> 01:24:09,060 article and everybody was like, nobody said that. 1590 01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:10,980 Like what? And then they were like, what? 1591 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:15,540 And then so I think they thought maybe they had dug up a little 1592 01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,540 piece of him to take to that Angel or something because they 1593 01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:21,780 were just putting out fires before in case somebody saw him 1594 01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:23,820 messing around with that grave, I feel. 1595 01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:26,940 But he did. He did print that for no reason. 1596 01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:29,860 There was like no rhyme or reason for it, which was so 1597 01:24:29,860 --> 01:24:33,040 strange and so, you know, a little. 1598 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,920 Guilty conscious there, it sounds like, yeah. 1599 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,120 Or he was afraid somebody saw them. 1600 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,200 And you know, he's like, I would never do that. 1601 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,200 I would never do that. And same thing with Joseph 1602 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,720 Smith. They moved his body a whole 1603 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,720 bunch of times. And not only that, but when he 1604 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:53,000 did get the plates, he finally released from the Angel that 1605 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,970 wouldn't give them to him. It was like in the middle of the 1606 01:24:55,970 --> 01:24:59,090 night, close to three in the morning, all dressed in black on 1607 01:24:59,090 --> 01:25:01,930 a hill by himself, his wife's waiting in the carriage that he 1608 01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:05,170 just got, and he had been the virgin scryer. 1609 01:25:05,410 --> 01:25:07,290 But now he just got married, see. 1610 01:25:07,370 --> 01:25:10,610 Just barely. And so what's the first thing he 1611 01:25:10,610 --> 01:25:12,370 does? He doesn't go to a honeymoon. 1612 01:25:12,370 --> 01:25:16,210 He goes to this hill to get him from the from the Angel, which I 1613 01:25:16,210 --> 01:25:19,970 believe was probably an Angel. A nod of light. 1614 01:25:20,050 --> 01:25:25,340 I didn't say that part. And I think he knew that, you 1615 01:25:25,340 --> 01:25:26,940 know, he wasn't going to be a virgin anymore. 1616 01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:30,220 So maybe he was scared that some of that power would go, you 1617 01:25:30,260 --> 01:25:34,020 know, well, shortly after that, she had a baby almost nine 1618 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:36,180 months to the day. Oh, by the way, it was on the 1619 01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:39,620 fall equinox, too. Don't forget that part In the 1620 01:25:39,620 --> 01:25:40,700 middle of the night. Yeah. 1621 01:25:42,140 --> 01:25:46,900 All dressed in black, like so this baby's born and it's so 1622 01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:49,620 deformed it only lives like a couple minutes. 1623 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,800 And it it was noted to be severely deformed. 1624 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,720 And they named it after his dead brother. 1625 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,600 And so that was his first son. And the other one was the other 1626 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,680 one's first son, the dad's first son. 1627 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,160 And what do Masons do to, like, rise up in ranks like there's 1628 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,960 always a sacrifice. There always is. 1629 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,640 And you a lot of. Child's already before well and 1630 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,200 he didn't even know that. But the baby died, you know And 1631 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:19,520 actually of 11 children, only I think five of his survived, most 1632 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,200 of them dying in infancy. Which is also makes you wonder 1633 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,760 where the hell did those babies go. 1634 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,720 Like if you know anything about satanic anything that's not 1635 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:35,240 good, you know, or even satanic masonry, not necessarily just 1636 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,760 brotherhood masonry, but when you get into some of the weird 1637 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:42,920 stuff, it gets weird. So he was a master Mason, he 1638 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,400 became a Mason and then two days later he was rose to master 1639 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:47,920 Mason. That doesn't happen. 1640 01:26:49,020 --> 01:26:51,380 Right. I just realized the other day 1641 01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:52,940 and I completely forgot about it. 1642 01:26:52,940 --> 01:26:58,220 But there is a Masonic Lodge in my town. 1643 01:26:58,780 --> 01:27:03,860 And normally I remember growing up like there'd be certain 1644 01:27:03,860 --> 01:27:08,300 nights where like the their little light would be on and you 1645 01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:10,940 would see like a hallway lights on. 1646 01:27:10,940 --> 01:27:14,300 But like you would never see anybody ever going in, ever see 1647 01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:17,820 anybody ever coming out. And then other than that like. 1648 01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:21,430 It would just seem like it was vacant, like empty and. 1649 01:27:21,630 --> 01:27:25,910 Yeah, always. And then I was driving through a 1650 01:27:25,950 --> 01:27:27,510 town. I mean this is probably like 1651 01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:31,070 maybe like, oh, a week or two ago, I feel like. 1652 01:27:31,070 --> 01:27:34,510 And I just so have to be driving up past there during the evening 1653 01:27:34,510 --> 01:27:36,830 time. And I noticed the light was on 1654 01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:43,150 and I was like, oh, so they do still do stuff. 1655 01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:45,870 And then I just, I was looking at the the sign again. 1656 01:27:45,870 --> 01:27:48,070 And then I just kind of dawned on me, 'cause like. 1657 01:27:48,630 --> 01:27:51,750 You know, I've drove past it so many times like I just ignore 1658 01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:56,670 it, but like there's a really big upside down star in their in 1659 01:27:56,670 --> 01:27:58,350 their symbol. And then I was like, hold on a 1660 01:27:58,350 --> 01:28:05,510 second, I've seen this before. Yeah, it's on the temple. 1661 01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:07,910 It's on the temple. And they're all over and they 1662 01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:10,990 just, and they've got the moon and the stars and they've got 1663 01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:13,830 like the weird, you know, sun things. 1664 01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:17,310 And and they just, and they say now, Oh yeah, back in the day 1665 01:28:17,310 --> 01:28:18,990 they would have just denied, denied, denied. 1666 01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:21,830 But then when the Internet came out, it screwed them because 1667 01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:24,270 they're like, oh, these people can look this stuff up. 1668 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:26,550 So then they came out and just were like, Yep, he's a Mason. 1669 01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:28,710 We know. And like, when I was young, that 1670 01:28:28,710 --> 01:28:30,990 was not a thing. And when I was young, he was not 1671 01:28:30,990 --> 01:28:34,990 a polygamist either at all. He was true to his one wife. 1672 01:28:34,990 --> 01:28:36,470 And that was all. And that was it. 1673 01:28:36,990 --> 01:28:41,310 And then it slowly leaks out. So then they started a campaign 1674 01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:43,910 saying don't look up anything on the Internet. 1675 01:28:43,910 --> 01:28:46,070 Doubt your doubts, don't doubt your faith. 1676 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:50,790 That was their real slogan. And so so many people started 1677 01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:53,910 leaving the church because. And then you can go backward in 1678 01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:58,110 time and you can find prophets. K prophets are called of God. 1679 01:28:58,650 --> 01:29:01,410 It says in the Bible, if a prophet is ever wrong that they 1680 01:29:01,410 --> 01:29:04,970 are to have everything they've ever said struck like if it 1681 01:29:04,970 --> 01:29:08,330 once, if they're proven wrong once, Well, the Mormon prophets 1682 01:29:08,330 --> 01:29:11,290 are wrong all the time. Like they were racist and didn't 1683 01:29:11,290 --> 01:29:13,970 let black people in and have the priesthood until after the 1684 01:29:13,970 --> 01:29:17,370 1950s, conveniently when everything was happening to 1685 01:29:17,370 --> 01:29:20,210 bring that to an end in this world. 1686 01:29:20,210 --> 01:29:23,050 And all of a sudden they were like, Oh well, there's all these 1687 01:29:23,050 --> 01:29:25,450 problems. So Yep, God told me blah blah 1688 01:29:25,450 --> 01:29:28,120 blah. And God told them, you know, oh 1689 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,040 this and that. And they're always changing it. 1690 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,080 And one of the other things was one of the prophets said, Oh 1691 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,440 well, we have the true Masonry, we have Christian Masonry, and 1692 01:29:38,440 --> 01:29:42,080 it's the true Masonry. And I'm like, they just twist 1693 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,920 everything. Like there's always an answer. 1694 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,440 Always. If you went to them with all of 1695 01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:53,310 this, they would have an answer. Wow, you're this is wrong. 1696 01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:56,150 That's, you know, you're you're taking that out of context. 1697 01:29:56,150 --> 01:29:58,030 That's not true. This isn't true. 1698 01:29:58,310 --> 01:30:00,790 The Bible's only true. And as much as it's translated 1699 01:30:00,790 --> 01:30:03,950 correctly, I'm like the Bible can be proven that it was 1700 01:30:03,950 --> 01:30:06,430 translated correctly, 'cause they're scrolls. 1701 01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:09,190 What are you talking about? Your book doesn't have any of 1702 01:30:09,190 --> 01:30:11,190 that, and you've changed it 100 times. 1703 01:30:11,670 --> 01:30:16,100 So what about that? You know, it's just, it's it's 1704 01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:19,660 amazing to me that it's one of the top religions and one of the 1705 01:30:19,660 --> 01:30:22,660 wealthiest churches. And I don't think it's by any 1706 01:30:22,660 --> 01:30:26,420 surprise because that masonry, it comes into play. 1707 01:30:26,540 --> 01:30:30,140 There's no way. I think they're a part of the 1708 01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:35,380 top cabal and so do many people. As far as Mormons, you know, 1709 01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:39,460 like Jesse Chesabar and there's a few other people that talk 1710 01:30:39,460 --> 01:30:43,860 about this that say Mormons are directly involved with like the 1711 01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:48,030 top cabal people and and the elite and I believe it. 1712 01:30:49,190 --> 01:30:54,510 And so they, they have money. I mean it fits every check box, 1713 01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:58,310 you know. And so and they do say that 1714 01:30:58,310 --> 01:31:01,870 there's some horrific sexual scandals and different things 1715 01:31:01,870 --> 01:31:03,950 that have happened in the temple. 1716 01:31:03,950 --> 01:31:07,310 And there is underground, I don't know As for everywhere, 1717 01:31:07,310 --> 01:31:10,270 but here in Salt Lake there is underground tunnels underneath 1718 01:31:10,270 --> 01:31:13,870 that temple that there's a full grid system underneath the whole 1719 01:31:13,870 --> 01:31:17,870 city, yeah. Really. 1720 01:31:17,870 --> 01:31:19,790 What do you think the purpose for those are? 1721 01:31:20,350 --> 01:31:24,590 Oh, I'm sure the purpose is probably shuffling things in and 1722 01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:28,350 out that need to go unseen, just like any tunnel. 1723 01:31:28,710 --> 01:31:31,470 What do you do in the dark? Nothing good ever comes in the 1724 01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:33,430 dark. If you have to hide something, 1725 01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:38,640 then you've got something going on, you know, and I think that's 1726 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,000 the biggest thing with the church. 1727 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,560 Like I said, if they want to do that and they want to do Satanic 1728 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,600 rituals or they want to do Masonic rituals or they want to 1729 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,880 be just Masons, then take God's name off of it because you're 1730 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,160 leading people astray. Otherwise, I don't have a 1731 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,000 problem with it. If people want to do whatever 1732 01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,000 they want to do, they can do that. 1733 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,800 They don't have to believe how I believe, you know, that's that. 1734 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,480 That's the beauty of the world. We're not even supposed to push 1735 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,160 that. We're just supposed to teach? 1736 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,340 Like, if you teach somebody about God, great. 1737 01:32:09,340 --> 01:32:12,740 If they accept it, great. If they don't, OK, that's that's 1738 01:32:12,740 --> 01:32:14,100 on them. Let it go. 1739 01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:17,220 You know, that's not what we're called here to do. 1740 01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:18,860 And we're not called here to shame them either. 1741 01:32:18,860 --> 01:32:20,780 Like, oh, you're a bad person. You're going to go straight to 1742 01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:23,540 hell for that one. Like, I don't believe that, you 1743 01:32:23,540 --> 01:32:27,620 know, so that's everybody's has free will. 1744 01:32:27,620 --> 01:32:31,660 Or we would still be back in the Garden of Eden because we 1745 01:32:31,660 --> 01:32:34,860 wouldn't even exist. It would just be Adam and Eve if 1746 01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:37,380 there was no free will because there wouldn't have been an 1747 01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:39,380 option. There wouldn't. 1748 01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:41,620 Yeah, he wanted us to have our free will. 1749 01:32:41,620 --> 01:32:43,860 I mean, what? Otherwise, what's the point? 1750 01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:48,260 So I mean, people can get mad all they want and say, oh, 1751 01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:51,020 that's not a true Christian because she interviews this 1752 01:32:51,020 --> 01:32:54,380 person or that person. No, I'm here to show people 1753 01:32:54,380 --> 01:32:58,220 like, use your critical thinking, try to reach people 1754 01:32:58,220 --> 01:33:00,300 that may. Maybe somebody would never talk 1755 01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:02,620 to somebody about that. You know, Maybe that's all 1756 01:33:02,620 --> 01:33:05,460 they've known their whole life. Maybe you're going to reach a 1757 01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:08,700 different person with that. But I won't change my standard, 1758 01:33:08,940 --> 01:33:11,420 you know, Just like maybe you won't change your standard. 1759 01:33:11,740 --> 01:33:13,580 It doesn't matter. At the end of the day, we can 1760 01:33:13,580 --> 01:33:15,980 both agree to disagree and go about our lives. 1761 01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:17,240 But. Exactly. 1762 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,520 Because your truth is your truth and it's it's not anybody elses 1763 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,720 place to to say otherwise. Because if it's true to you then 1764 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,640 it's true to you just like it. You know things in my in my life 1765 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,920 are are true to me because they they they just are and they 1766 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,720 don't have to be true to anybody else. 1767 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,600 And you know, I think you know, especially with. 1768 01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:41,110 Podcasting and and doing all this stuff and just having that 1769 01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:46,350 that option to be able to, you know, to to speak what you want 1770 01:33:46,350 --> 01:33:49,710 to speak about and you know, inform people what you want to 1771 01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:52,550 inform them on. And just like giving people 1772 01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:57,310 information, you know could possibly help them in the long 1773 01:33:57,310 --> 01:33:59,790 run. And that's and that's beneficial 1774 01:33:59,790 --> 01:34:02,510 because you know again at the end of the day, you know what we 1775 01:34:02,510 --> 01:34:04,510 do, we we need to love each other. 1776 01:34:04,510 --> 01:34:06,950 We need to be there for each other and support everybody. 1777 01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:11,390 And like one of the overall bad things that I just, I've noticed 1778 01:34:11,390 --> 01:34:15,830 with any bit of organized religion is how much judgement 1779 01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:20,550 comes from them. And you know I had AI, had a 1780 01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:23,990 friend in in high school went to the same church with me and she 1781 01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:26,710 got pregnant when she was like 16. 1782 01:34:27,470 --> 01:34:32,130 So she started coming in and. She started getting, you know, 1783 01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:34,570 people were just giving her these eat shit and die. 1784 01:34:34,570 --> 01:34:38,530 Looks like you were just so disgusting, yeah. 1785 01:34:38,650 --> 01:34:42,250 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it got to the point where she 1786 01:34:42,250 --> 01:34:44,650 was just like, you know, she told her parents, like, I can't 1787 01:34:44,650 --> 01:34:46,450 do it. I can't keep going there 1788 01:34:46,450 --> 01:34:48,730 anymore. Like, I there's there's no 1789 01:34:48,730 --> 01:34:50,610 reason. And like, the further along I 1790 01:34:50,610 --> 01:34:54,130 get, the bigger my belly gets. Like, you know, I'm just going 1791 01:34:54,130 --> 01:34:56,160 to get. Judged even harder. 1792 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,080 I'm going to get hated on even harder. 1793 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,480 Like, you know, afterwards, and when everybody's coming up and 1794 01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:03,880 talking to each other and this and that, you know, other 1795 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,640 families would come up to hers and like, start talking to her 1796 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,200 parents and just give her like, this little side eye, but never 1797 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,400 like actually like speak to her and what and what does it prove, 1798 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,160 What does it prove at the end of the day? 1799 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,090 Like, here's the thing. A pregnancy is an actual 1800 01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:23,530 manifestation of of a possible sin. 1801 01:35:23,530 --> 01:35:28,130 It's not always a sin, but it it is a manifestation of something 1802 01:35:28,130 --> 01:35:32,130 that happened, right? So her sin is visible, whereas 1803 01:35:32,130 --> 01:35:37,290 most of us our sins are not. Which is why I named my podcast 1804 01:35:37,290 --> 01:35:41,330 Unfiltered because I refuse to filter it down for anybody. 1805 01:35:41,330 --> 01:35:44,050 Like if you disagree with me, that's OK, I'm fine about it. 1806 01:35:44,250 --> 01:35:48,090 I still have a lot to teach people and a lot of teachings 1807 01:35:48,090 --> 01:35:50,930 from the Bible and God, and I don't cherry pick it. 1808 01:35:51,210 --> 01:35:56,320 I am true to the Bible 100%. So here's the thing that doesn't 1809 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,480 have to be judgmental though. If I come to you as a sister and 1810 01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:02,840 I show you something like, OK, this is going to help you in 1811 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,480 your life and I'm a positive experience for you and a 1812 01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:10,000 positive, helpful person to you and not a negative person on 1813 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,920 you, you're much you're going to come to me for questions way 1814 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,520 more than you would if you if if I was mean about it, right? 1815 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,600 Like if I'm so pious that I'm so great, you're never going to 1816 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,840 come to me and say, hey, what about this scripture? 1817 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,060 I don't know what this means. You know, then I can't help you. 1818 01:36:27,380 --> 01:36:31,260 You know, if if you had a question, like if if you needed 1819 01:36:31,260 --> 01:36:33,500 some knowledge, if you needed something, and maybe at the end 1820 01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:35,740 of the day you just wanted that question answered and it doesn't 1821 01:36:35,740 --> 01:36:39,300 change a thing, but at least you felt comfortable, you know? 1822 01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:43,500 And As for your friend, at the end of the day, what would they 1823 01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:46,100 like her to do? Because here's the thing, they 1824 01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:49,420 don't even believe in abortion. So what would they like her to 1825 01:36:49,420 --> 01:36:51,730 do? There's a baby in there and at 1826 01:36:51,730 --> 01:36:53,530 that point her sin is irrelevant. 1827 01:36:53,530 --> 01:36:55,490 Now. It's a miracle inside of her 1828 01:36:55,490 --> 01:36:58,290 that needs to. She needed help probably more 1829 01:36:58,290 --> 01:37:01,050 than anything else. She probably needed love and 1830 01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:03,330 acceptance and and a little bit of help. 1831 01:37:03,530 --> 01:37:05,810 You know, that doesn't teach her anything. 1832 01:37:05,850 --> 01:37:08,050 Being like that, that teaches her cruelty. 1833 01:37:08,050 --> 01:37:10,370 And she's going to get enough of that being a young mother on her 1834 01:37:10,370 --> 01:37:13,650 own or giving the baby. Whichever way you do it, you 1835 01:37:13,650 --> 01:37:16,050 know it it. But she still made the right 1836 01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:18,620 decision. She didn't end the life, you 1837 01:37:18,620 --> 01:37:20,980 know, So why? Why do that? 1838 01:37:20,980 --> 01:37:24,260 Why make her feel guilty about the very thing you preach about 1839 01:37:24,580 --> 01:37:26,540 Don't kill your baby. Well, don't kill your baby and 1840 01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:28,060 then turn around, treat her terrible. 1841 01:37:28,260 --> 01:37:30,100 Like what? Why? 1842 01:37:30,460 --> 01:37:33,940 I hear, you know, people want to say they're godly and they want 1843 01:37:33,940 --> 01:37:36,180 to point their finger, 'cause you might say a curse word, or 1844 01:37:36,180 --> 01:37:38,580 you might say the wrong thing. Or maybe sometimes, I don't 1845 01:37:38,580 --> 01:37:41,740 know, maybe I'll just say I don't know and I'll go look it 1846 01:37:41,740 --> 01:37:43,980 up. But at least if there's some 1847 01:37:43,980 --> 01:37:46,300 honesty in a person, you can feel it. 1848 01:37:46,620 --> 01:37:49,810 I mean, it is what it is, you know? 1849 01:37:50,330 --> 01:37:53,130 And my love for God is not is not changed. 1850 01:37:53,130 --> 01:37:57,810 If I go have a talk with a Satanist about John Dee, I want 1851 01:37:57,810 --> 01:38:00,730 to know what happened with that situation in my life. 1852 01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:04,850 But does that mean anything changes for my testimony? 1853 01:38:04,850 --> 01:38:06,930 Absolutely not. I've been through hell and back 1854 01:38:06,930 --> 01:38:09,210 with my testimony. There's nothing that can change 1855 01:38:09,210 --> 01:38:11,860 it at this point. Right, exactly. 1856 01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:15,500 And you know sometimes we we have to have that that 1857 01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:20,500 conversation with the the the opposition as it were, you know, 1858 01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:24,180 the the other, the other side. And if you can't have that open 1859 01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:28,940 conversation with, you know, the conflicting side of what you, 1860 01:38:29,220 --> 01:38:33,340 you know, believe in, then you know you you need to do some 1861 01:38:33,340 --> 01:38:35,260 reflecting on on your on yourself. 1862 01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:38,890 Well, they're so they're so brainwashed that they don't they 1863 01:38:38,890 --> 01:38:41,890 forget a couple things. Aleister Crowley was a freak. 1864 01:38:41,970 --> 01:38:45,490 But here's the thing, he was also really well read. 1865 01:38:45,610 --> 01:38:50,610 OK, not such a great writer, but he was well read as above. 1866 01:38:50,730 --> 01:38:53,890 So below applies in almost everything. 1867 01:38:53,890 --> 01:38:56,970 So if you believe in God and angels and a hierarchy of 1868 01:38:56,970 --> 01:39:00,450 heaven, then I will promise you that there is the devil and 1869 01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:02,530 legions and a hierarchy there too. 1870 01:39:02,980 --> 01:39:06,180 So you better know your enemy. Because when it comes for you, I 1871 01:39:06,180 --> 01:39:08,700 would rather be well informed. Period. 1872 01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:12,260 Period. Why did I know that was a demon 1873 01:39:12,260 --> 01:39:15,620 that they were talking about? Because I informed myself. 1874 01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:19,180 I didn't know at first, but I sure did go search it out. 1875 01:39:19,900 --> 01:39:22,700 You know, people get scared. They're like, oh, you're talking 1876 01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:26,370 about demons and that's bad. And da da da No, I'm not afraid 1877 01:39:26,490 --> 01:39:31,170 of any of that because I have the power to squash snakes and 1878 01:39:31,170 --> 01:39:34,610 scorpions heads. God says so in Jesus name, so 1879 01:39:34,610 --> 01:39:37,090 why should I fear that? Why should I fear the study of 1880 01:39:37,090 --> 01:39:39,170 that? King James didn't just write the 1881 01:39:39,170 --> 01:39:42,690 Bible, he wrote a full book on demons as well. 1882 01:39:43,050 --> 01:39:44,330 And most people. Don't really. 1883 01:39:44,610 --> 01:39:48,050 I did not. I think I'm. 1884 01:39:48,050 --> 01:39:49,930 I'm gonna have to where? Where did you find that? 1885 01:39:49,970 --> 01:39:55,000 At Google that it's real. Be very careful about reading. 1886 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,000 But yes. And Solomon did the same thing. 1887 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,640 And so I'm like you, you know that. 1888 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,600 Why would he. OK, he didn't write the Bible, 1889 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:08,000 like, out of his brain, right. He just interpreted it for to 1890 01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:12,040 enclose it in one book. OK, Other people were writers of 1891 01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,400 these chapters. So same thing with the demons. 1892 01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:17,840 Why is it in there? It's to teach us. 1893 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,000 Why do we need to know it? To learn to protect ourselves? 1894 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,240 Then why do you need to know the other part? 1895 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,080 I'll ask you this, What sport do you like or play? 1896 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:32,520 Well, it would be a Max. I I don't, I don't really do 1897 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,000 like football or baseball, OK, But you know about, OK, you know 1898 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,960 about football. What do football people do on a 1899 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,700 team during the week? If they're going to play an 1900 01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:45,060 exceptionally hard team, what do they watch? 1901 01:40:45,940 --> 01:40:49,300 They're going to watch old scrimmages of what they're any. 1902 01:40:49,300 --> 01:40:52,140 Other team of their. Own and their plays know what 1903 01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:56,580 they're going to do exactly. And I am going to be that 1904 01:40:56,580 --> 01:40:59,940 Christian because I'm going to know exactly what to protect 1905 01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:04,140 myself against and my family and other people, not just myself. 1906 01:41:04,140 --> 01:41:07,740 Because if we are only about ourselves and our families, then 1907 01:41:07,740 --> 01:41:10,420 we haven't really accepted the true Christ like way. 1908 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:14,320 That's not what it was. It it's not We're supposed to 1909 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:18,120 have that knowledge and have all of that in us to go fight for 1910 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,360 everyone. You know, our our decision of if 1911 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,480 you go to heaven or not is not up to me. 1912 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,840 That's ridiculous. And maybe one day we'll be 1913 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,960 fighting side by side. You never know. 1914 01:41:30,440 --> 01:41:33,680 And so I just say like you better have all your ducks in a 1915 01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,320 row and have your knowledge and have your armor. 1916 01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:41,730 Now, I'm not saying for the layperson to go deep dive into 1917 01:41:41,730 --> 01:41:44,290 this just Willy nilly because honestly there's some 1918 01:41:44,290 --> 01:41:49,210 repercussions if you have little openings of like, oh, that looks 1919 01:41:49,210 --> 01:41:51,650 like a fun place to go. Yeah, I don't know if I'd do it. 1920 01:41:51,650 --> 01:41:55,170 If I had a lot of vices, I would really make sure you're in a 1921 01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:59,730 good place mentally and like, not so much physically but 1922 01:41:59,810 --> 01:42:02,690 mentally to, like, go down that journey. 1923 01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:06,210 Not like vices, as in smoking or some weird thing. 1924 01:42:06,210 --> 01:42:09,610 I'm talking about openings in your mind where something could 1925 01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:15,490 come in, you know, yeah, you've got to arm yourself, and that's 1926 01:42:15,490 --> 01:42:17,770 the truth. And if we don't watch the 1927 01:42:17,770 --> 01:42:20,530 scrimmage of our enemy, then what the heck are you going to 1928 01:42:20,530 --> 01:42:22,090 do when you're really faced with it? 1929 01:42:22,970 --> 01:42:24,860 I don't know. Just God. 1930 01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:28,420 Jesus is coming back. I know this for sure, but I know 1931 01:42:28,420 --> 01:42:32,180 there's going to be a war beforehand and I don't want to 1932 01:42:32,180 --> 01:42:35,500 be not prepared, like. And if it never happens in my 1933 01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:38,980 lifetime, then so be that. But maybe it'll be for my son, 1934 01:42:38,980 --> 01:42:41,900 maybe I I don't know. I don't know why God's put me on 1935 01:42:41,900 --> 01:42:44,180 this journey, never want to do anything like this. 1936 01:42:44,180 --> 01:42:49,710 In my whole entire life. I I I was the 1st here I am. 1937 01:42:49,790 --> 01:42:53,470 Normal as could be like as normie as one could be like 1938 01:42:53,470 --> 01:42:56,550 years ago, I would have been first in line for, you know, the 1939 01:42:56,550 --> 01:43:00,230 2020 solution and I gave them the finger. 1940 01:43:00,230 --> 01:43:04,110 I never injected one person and I never received anything. 1941 01:43:04,390 --> 01:43:06,910 And I think that's really important for people to know 1942 01:43:06,910 --> 01:43:09,750 because like I read these things like I'll never trust another 1943 01:43:09,750 --> 01:43:12,310 medical person again. I'm like not all of us bent 1944 01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:16,080 over, just so you know. And I would never put that in 1945 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,760 another human being. Never. 1946 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,800 I would. I was ready to leave my job and 1947 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,440 walk away. Some of us. 1948 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,560 Still have integrity? Yeah. 1949 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,960 Yep. And not all of us were fooled, 1950 01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,480 you know? But same thing with God. 1951 01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:32,880 It goes all back to that. Don't be a fool. 1952 01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,200 Figure it out. Like even you as much as, you 1953 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,620 know, like I just dropped a bomb, you know, and I would we 1954 01:43:38,620 --> 01:43:40,820 can do an episode on that because I've been looking for 1955 01:43:40,820 --> 01:43:42,980 someone to do one with and most people don't want to do that. 1956 01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:47,780 Yes, most people are like, you want to do what? 1957 01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:49,700 And they're like, no, I don't want to do that. 1958 01:43:49,700 --> 01:43:53,340 And I'm like, why? We need to talk about things. 1959 01:43:53,460 --> 01:43:57,480 We need to explain it. I've always found, you know it 1960 01:43:57,480 --> 01:44:01,440 be interesting, you know, demonologists and and how like 1961 01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:04,240 they just are they, they know all these things and they've 1962 01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,880 read all these different, you know, books and stuff that have 1963 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,360 been written centuries ago about this stuff. 1964 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,520 And it's just like, you know, and like another thing like I 1965 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:19,080 just, it pisses me off that in order for like, you know, an 1966 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:23,690 exorcism to happen. The the Vatican has to approve 1967 01:44:23,690 --> 01:44:24,810 it. Yeah, that's bull crap. 1968 01:44:25,370 --> 01:44:28,450 Yeah, exactly. What's half of the Bible? 1969 01:44:28,450 --> 01:44:31,850 What's 3/4 of the Bible? Jesus walking around, casting 1970 01:44:31,850 --> 01:44:34,410 things out of people. And I'm telling you this with me 1971 01:44:34,410 --> 01:44:39,690 working where I work with mental illness, there is a good portion 1972 01:44:39,690 --> 01:44:42,330 of people that actually have problems that are mentally ill 1973 01:44:42,330 --> 01:44:44,050 from like, no fault of their own. 1974 01:44:44,290 --> 01:44:46,690 Maybe an accident, maybe a chemical imbalance, something, 1975 01:44:46,690 --> 01:44:49,330 whatever. There's also a good portion that 1976 01:44:49,490 --> 01:44:55,620 look and appeared to be demonized and it's sad to me 1977 01:44:55,620 --> 01:44:58,020 that they have to go through that because there's not enough 1978 01:44:58,060 --> 01:45:01,020 Jesus's to cast anything out. And I'm not saying for the 1979 01:45:01,020 --> 01:45:04,780 layperson to go do that either. I'm just saying it's sad that 1980 01:45:04,780 --> 01:45:07,860 there isn't more where people can get help. 1981 01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:11,020 I'm not saying, oh, Joe Blow on the street should just go start 1982 01:45:11,020 --> 01:45:13,260 doing that like that's crazy, you know? 1983 01:45:13,380 --> 01:45:15,260 No. But definitely not for for 1984 01:45:15,260 --> 01:45:17,900 everybody. But I I think that you know, I 1985 01:45:17,980 --> 01:45:22,010 just it I I. I was so shocked and I'm, I'm 1986 01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:24,570 still kind of shocked and maybe I just haven't looked hard 1987 01:45:24,570 --> 01:45:28,330 enough yet, but I just, I feel like there should be more people 1988 01:45:28,330 --> 01:45:32,010 out there who. Claim that they you know that 1989 01:45:32,010 --> 01:45:36,210 they are exorcists and they can. You know they can do this stuff 1990 01:45:36,210 --> 01:45:40,010 and that they don't need to have the Catholic Church. 1991 01:45:41,450 --> 01:45:44,570 Yeah, their approval for it whatsoever. 1992 01:45:44,770 --> 01:45:47,690 If you're able to accomplish that feat, then by all means 1993 01:45:47,690 --> 01:45:49,970 accomplish that fucking feat and get the shit done. 1994 01:45:50,050 --> 01:45:52,610 Exactly. And and not to be disrespectful 1995 01:45:52,610 --> 01:45:55,810 to anybody out there that is Catholic, but you have to look 1996 01:45:55,810 --> 01:45:57,570 at all religion like what you said. 1997 01:45:57,570 --> 01:46:01,890 And I I'm not I'm not against them like I am Mormon stuff and 1998 01:46:01,890 --> 01:46:04,410 I'm only remember I'm only against them because they lie. 1999 01:46:04,890 --> 01:46:09,170 But for Catholics, I think a lot of their, their stuff was 2000 01:46:09,170 --> 01:46:13,330 influenced at a later point by Santeria because it's really 2001 01:46:13,330 --> 01:46:16,990 similar in some areas. And I'm not saying that they 2002 01:46:16,990 --> 01:46:19,390 know that. I'm not saying that people that 2003 01:46:19,390 --> 01:46:22,350 are Catholics know that. I'm not saying good people don't 2004 01:46:22,350 --> 01:46:24,910 know that. I'm just saying like sometimes 2005 01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:27,470 the top of the top, it gets kind of messed up. 2006 01:46:27,470 --> 01:46:31,110 Like we're talking about the Vatican, you know, and I think 2007 01:46:31,190 --> 01:46:34,910 as many Mormon top of the tops are bought, so are the 2008 01:46:34,910 --> 01:46:36,510 Catholics. So are all of them. 2009 01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:42,100 This, this has to happen for the world to come about to a full 2010 01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:43,300 fall. They all. 2011 01:46:43,460 --> 01:46:45,420 The church has to come against us all. 2012 01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:48,700 They're going to side with Lucifer. 2013 01:46:48,940 --> 01:46:50,980 They're going to be part of the problem. 2014 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:54,020 If you read your scriptures, you already know that. 2015 01:46:54,500 --> 01:47:00,140 And on top of that, like I said, God called King James to write 2016 01:47:00,140 --> 01:47:02,900 that Bible and put it, not write it, but put it together. 2017 01:47:03,220 --> 01:47:06,900 He must have called him on the demon book as well, because why 2018 01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:10,460 the heck else was it published? Why the heck else was it made? 2019 01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:15,080 Like, what was that about? And that got shoved under a rug 2020 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,880 like, I mean, there's a lot of things that we do not 2021 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,760 understand, but I know this as much as we can prepare and stay 2022 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,440 close to God. Like, I get up. 2023 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,200 I read my scriptures and I don't read them. 2024 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,000 Like, this is this day and that's that. 2025 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,840 No, throw it out the window. I pray and I open that thing and 2026 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,360 the message is the living word for a reason, because it could 2027 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,160 mean something different today than it meant to me yesterday. 2028 01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,600 I could read the same verse today as yesterday and have it 2029 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,480 apply completely different to my life. 2030 01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,760 So sometimes now, I'm not saying if you've never read it in its 2031 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,680 entirety, I mean get a basis. But if you've read it two or 2032 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:58,920 three times, this is what I do. Open it up, Pray about it 1st 2033 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,000 and see what that message is for the day. 2034 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,200 And you don't have to spend hours doing this. 2035 01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,480 That's irrelevant. Hear the message from God. 2036 01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:10,280 Where are you going to get your message if if everything's so 2037 01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:14,160 closed off and we don't go on trips to go find God? 2038 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,000 We don't do any kind of journeys anymore. 2039 01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,680 We don't go within ourselves or have some kind of suffering. 2040 01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,840 OK, so where the heck are you going to find God? 2041 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,600 You have to open yourself up to get that line. 2042 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,040 People say, well, I've never heard God, I'm like, have you 2043 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:36,600 really tried, really dedicated yourself and really been so down 2044 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,680 and out that you would open yourself up to that? 2045 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,840 Because a lot of people haven't no judgement, but it's just the 2046 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,960 way it is. You know, I've almost died a 2047 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,640 couple times so and wanted to die once because of my daughter, 2048 01:48:51,060 --> 01:48:52,780 and that one was the one that broke me. 2049 01:48:52,780 --> 01:48:57,180 Ironically enough, the mental torture that I went through was 2050 01:48:57,180 --> 01:49:00,740 far worse than any physical torture that I have suffered 2051 01:49:01,220 --> 01:49:05,780 because that I always look at Job, I always look at the 2052 01:49:05,780 --> 01:49:08,180 suffering that Job went through and people say, well, why would 2053 01:49:08,180 --> 01:49:11,620 God do that to Job or why would God do that to people if he 2054 01:49:11,620 --> 01:49:14,020 loves us so much? God didn't do anything. 2055 01:49:14,020 --> 01:49:17,020 He's not the ruler of this world. 2056 01:49:17,460 --> 01:49:19,980 That has been made clear time and time again. 2057 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,680 God gives us our free agency #1 and #2. 2058 01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:25,960 He is not the ruler of this world. 2059 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:31,880 And that is why I think who answered the prayer in the 2060 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,840 temple was the God of this world. 2061 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:42,400 Because it makes sense. OK. 2062 01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:48,990 And so I don't know, it's just it's interesting to me, it's 2063 01:49:48,990 --> 01:49:54,430 interesting to me that that isn't brought to sometimes my 2064 01:49:54,430 --> 01:49:56,430 Bluetooth just like randomly disconnects. 2065 01:49:56,430 --> 01:50:01,630 So anyway, I am back. It was off for a minute, but I 2066 01:50:01,630 --> 01:50:04,630 just think it's interesting that people don't realize God doesn't 2067 01:50:04,630 --> 01:50:08,630 do any of that. And also our bodies are just 2068 01:50:08,630 --> 01:50:11,190 bodies. And this isn't our home. 2069 01:50:11,790 --> 01:50:14,150 This isn't our home. We're not supposed to love it 2070 01:50:14,150 --> 01:50:16,660 here. You're not supposed to be so 2071 01:50:16,660 --> 01:50:18,460 comfortable. You want to stay here like the 2072 01:50:18,460 --> 01:50:22,300 elites that need new bodies. Like we aren't supposed to like 2073 01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:24,460 it that much here. I'm not saying hate your life, 2074 01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:27,420 not saying that. I'm just saying sometimes if 2075 01:50:27,420 --> 01:50:32,340 you're uncomfortable, it's for a reason and it's not God's 2076 01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:34,500 reason. That's somebody else. 2077 01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:40,500 He was left in charge. Yeah, he was left in charge. 2078 01:50:40,500 --> 01:50:43,970 God is just there for when we need him and call upon him to 2079 01:50:43,970 --> 01:50:48,170 see if we can make that better. And I know for a fact for me 2080 01:50:49,130 --> 01:50:51,970 that God has helped me through things that I wouldn't have made 2081 01:50:51,970 --> 01:50:54,370 it through. I I was supposed to have died at 2082 01:50:54,370 --> 01:50:56,290 least twice, and once was last year. 2083 01:50:56,610 --> 01:50:59,330 I had osteomyelitis in my spinal cord. 2084 01:50:59,530 --> 01:51:03,250 That doesn't just go away. That's a disaster. 2085 01:51:03,530 --> 01:51:08,450 And even as a nurse, I knew what I was facing and I knew that God 2086 01:51:08,810 --> 01:51:11,350 would have me. I, like knew I just, and I kept 2087 01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:13,430 telling my family, can you guys just stop it, 'cause they were 2088 01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:17,110 like, whoa, and I get it. I mean, it was scary and they 2089 01:51:17,110 --> 01:51:18,270 were. I mean, this was months. 2090 01:51:18,270 --> 01:51:19,910 I had a pick line going to my heart. 2091 01:51:19,910 --> 01:51:25,190 Like I was very sick. And I just told him, like, we 2092 01:51:25,190 --> 01:51:28,910 got to stop this because it's just stressing me out and it's 2093 01:51:28,910 --> 01:51:31,910 useless anyway. Whatever is meant to happen will 2094 01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:33,550 happen. That's what's going to happen. 2095 01:51:33,550 --> 01:51:38,630 I'm going to do my part my best to, you know, eat well, take the 2096 01:51:38,630 --> 01:51:40,910 medication, do the things I'm supposed to do, and then the 2097 01:51:40,910 --> 01:51:44,190 rest is out of your hands. Which is why people are so weird 2098 01:51:44,190 --> 01:51:45,990 about God. They don't like shit out of 2099 01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:49,670 their hands, you know? Not at all. 2100 01:51:49,670 --> 01:51:51,590 And we have to learn to let that go. 2101 01:51:51,590 --> 01:51:55,350 When people say I give it to God, mean it, then mean it, then 2102 01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:58,670 let it go. Take a breath and figure out 2103 01:51:58,670 --> 01:52:02,710 what exactly he can do for you. But you can't just be like, I 2104 01:52:02,710 --> 01:52:04,470 need this and I need that and I need this. 2105 01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:05,830 How would you feel if that was you? 2106 01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:09,640 And you, you never heard praise, You never saw dedication. 2107 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,000 You never saw anybody come to you unless they needed 2108 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,720 something. I don't like that. 2109 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,960 I don't like when people do that to me, You know? 2110 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,640 It's something to think about. Definitely. 2111 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:23,320 Definitely, Yeah. So did I teach you a lot about 2112 01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,400 Mormons? Yes, actually there was a lot of 2113 01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,400 things I I was not aware of before. 2114 01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:34,440 Do you have any questions that you may be saved up or anything 2115 01:52:34,440 --> 01:52:36,290 I didn't get? I do. 2116 01:52:36,370 --> 01:52:39,290 I do not off the top my head and that's always how I that means I 2117 01:52:39,370 --> 01:52:41,530 did a good. Job it will be, it'll be later 2118 01:52:41,530 --> 01:52:43,330 on. It will be like 3 days later and 2119 01:52:43,330 --> 01:52:45,930 then I'll be like, and then I'm gonna have to ask you, send me a 2120 01:52:45,970 --> 01:52:47,930 Yeah, well and I'm hoping to do that. 2121 01:52:48,410 --> 01:52:51,050 I'll do some research and I would love to get with you and 2122 01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:54,650 do one on that book because so few people talk about it. 2123 01:52:55,130 --> 01:52:58,490 Yes, I I just like I said that's the first time I've ever heard 2124 01:52:58,490 --> 01:53:02,210 anything about that. So very, very, very curious. 2125 01:53:02,690 --> 01:53:04,410 Yes. And then it's there. 2126 01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:08,950 And then something else that's kind of kind of strange and and 2127 01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:11,470 funny. So I was recording an episode 2128 01:53:11,470 --> 01:53:16,110 last night and I was talking about different kinds of 2129 01:53:16,110 --> 01:53:19,910 paranormal things. Stuff like that was talking 2130 01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:24,110 about how I have activity in in my home. 2131 01:53:24,830 --> 01:53:31,830 And so while I was talking about that, I was unaware of something 2132 01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:36,050 that was happening outside of. This room that I'm in, and it 2133 01:53:36,050 --> 01:53:37,650 wasn't until this morning when I found out. 2134 01:53:37,810 --> 01:53:42,210 So me and my girlfriend were sitting in the the kitchens 2135 01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:45,010 before I'm going to work and everything and we're we're 2136 01:53:45,010 --> 01:53:49,290 talking and she was like, hey, did you come out of the the room 2137 01:53:50,090 --> 01:53:51,810 last night? And I was like, you're like 2138 01:53:52,050 --> 01:53:53,730 what? No, Why? 2139 01:53:54,050 --> 01:53:57,370 And she was like. Well, I I'd heard what I thought 2140 01:53:57,370 --> 01:54:01,290 was like the the door open and I never see you come out or 2141 01:54:01,290 --> 01:54:04,330 anything. I was like, no, I wasn't. 2142 01:54:04,330 --> 01:54:07,490 I wasn't in there. And so she ended up getting up 2143 01:54:07,490 --> 01:54:11,330 and she had like the lights off and almost walked into a a door 2144 01:54:11,330 --> 01:54:15,290 in the in the hallway. And it turns out the closet door 2145 01:54:15,290 --> 01:54:20,530 that sits just to the left of this door right here had opened 2146 01:54:20,530 --> 01:54:24,020 wide up on its own. Because I'm sitting here talking 2147 01:54:24,300 --> 01:54:28,780 about spirits being in my really weird stuff, really weird stuff 2148 01:54:28,780 --> 01:54:33,420 happens. And especially OK, I went 2149 01:54:33,420 --> 01:54:35,860 through a lot of things to get rid of the weird stuff when I 2150 01:54:35,860 --> 01:54:39,260 came out of Mormonism, and I think they liked where they 2151 01:54:39,260 --> 01:54:42,500 lived. And if you try to get rid of 2152 01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:44,420 them and you don't do a good job, what does it say? 2153 01:54:44,420 --> 01:54:46,420 It says 7 will come in their place, right? 2154 01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:50,300 And so I did make a video about spiritual warfare, which I think 2155 01:54:50,300 --> 01:54:53,820 might help you. And the closer you get to where 2156 01:54:53,820 --> 01:54:58,500 you just might believe more in God, like how you said you now 2157 01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:01,580 know that there can be a God, you know, along with other 2158 01:55:01,580 --> 01:55:04,060 things that you believe. And it's changed your mind a 2159 01:55:04,060 --> 01:55:06,940 little bit. The more open you get to that, 2160 01:55:06,940 --> 01:55:08,620 the more things are going to start happening. 2161 01:55:08,620 --> 01:55:13,140 Because if they do like to not inhabit you but like, follow 2162 01:55:13,140 --> 01:55:16,620 you, there's difference. You know they're going to be 2163 01:55:16,620 --> 01:55:19,600 mad. And especially where you're you 2164 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,840 were getting ready to talk to me because I'm very all about like 2165 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,600 this is what you should do. This is what you need to listen 2166 01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:28,200 to blah, blah, blah. I'll send you some stuff but and 2167 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,400 and people you know, people are like, oh that got worse And I'm 2168 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,880 like, oh, it will, it'll get worse and then it will get 2169 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:35,920 better. It doesn't get better all at 2170 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,960 once. And even still, when I did a 2171 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,880 podcast with somebody, a couple like, it was about a week ago 2172 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:45,640 and I would have thought I was actually losing it if my son 2173 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,120 hadn't been there because. And he's 15, he's not five. 2174 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,560 So he's reputable, like enough to get it. 2175 01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,440 We went upstairs and he's like, do you smell that? 2176 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,440 And I was like, yeah. And then he's like, I think it's 2177 01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:58,800 the dog. And I'm like, yeah, I think it's 2178 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:00,880 the dog. And then my dog is there and my 2179 01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,040 dog, I'm in the bedroom and then I see the dog come in. 2180 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,920 So it wasn't the dog because he, he wasn't over where he normally 2181 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,840 is. And the dog stopped. 2182 01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,680 He didn't turn around. He backed out and left. 2183 01:56:14,420 --> 01:56:19,780 And I was like, oh, and so and it was right after I had talked 2184 01:56:19,780 --> 01:56:23,700 to someone, a whole bunch of people on a Tavern about God and 2185 01:56:23,700 --> 01:56:27,860 about how how God really is. Like, God isn't this thing that 2186 01:56:27,860 --> 01:56:29,780 they make him into. That's ridiculous. 2187 01:56:29,780 --> 01:56:31,900 It's it's it's literally ridiculous. 2188 01:56:31,900 --> 01:56:35,500 Like. And so I was explaining grace 2189 01:56:35,500 --> 01:56:37,980 and love and all these things. Not that I'm saying people 2190 01:56:37,980 --> 01:56:40,140 aren't punished for their sins. I'm not saying that, OK. 2191 01:56:40,140 --> 01:56:44,750 I'm just saying like God, it is is just like you or I as a 2192 01:56:44,750 --> 01:56:46,910 parent. There are a few things I can 2193 01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:49,510 imagine in my life that I wouldn't forgive my child for, 2194 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:52,830 OK. It's he loves us way more than 2195 01:56:52,830 --> 01:56:55,950 that. And so that's amazing to people, 2196 01:56:55,950 --> 01:56:57,910 to open their eyes. And that's kind of what I was 2197 01:56:57,910 --> 01:57:01,120 discussing. And so anyway, my son said it 2198 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:04,120 smells like rotten meat in here. And I was like, yeah, it does. 2199 01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,840 So we are looking all over and I'm a nurse. 2200 01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,360 I'm super weirdo, clean OCD lady. 2201 01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:10,920 Like everything's perfectly placed all over my house. 2202 01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:14,080 Like, I'm very like that. And so he's like, yeah, 2203 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,160 especially your room, 'cause you're like wild about your 2204 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,400 room. And I mean changing sheets every 2205 01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,920 three to four days. Like, I am really diligent. 2206 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,360 And so I was like, looking. And as we were looking, it's 2207 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,120 moving and I'm trying to get the dog to come back. 2208 01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,940 And the dog's like, heck, no, I'm not going back in there. 2209 01:57:30,940 --> 01:57:33,700 Not. I had a jerky, A jerky treat, 2210 01:57:33,700 --> 01:57:35,620 Duck jerky. He loves duck jerky. 2211 01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:40,300 He was like, no way, no way. He would not come back in that 2212 01:57:40,300 --> 01:57:43,300 room. And then we started praying and 2213 01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:45,380 praying and then it finally stopped. 2214 01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:47,980 But then my dog finally came back in the room, went straight 2215 01:57:47,980 --> 01:57:50,220 to a chair. And then that smell was 2216 01:57:50,300 --> 01:57:54,330 everywhere on that chair, but not just the chair below the 2217 01:57:54,330 --> 01:57:57,730 chair, like on the dress that was hanging on the chair, on the 2218 01:57:57,730 --> 01:58:00,770 shoes underneath the chair. Like it wasn't just one spot, 2219 01:58:00,770 --> 01:58:02,610 like on a bad chair or something. 2220 01:58:03,050 --> 01:58:05,570 And it was literally my son looked at me and he goes, it's 2221 01:58:05,570 --> 01:58:09,370 literally like it sat there and I was like, so yeah, we're just 2222 01:58:09,370 --> 01:58:10,850 praying we're not going to go there. 2223 01:58:11,170 --> 01:58:16,010 And So what I'm telling you is if you're opening your mind more 2224 01:58:16,010 --> 01:58:20,050 to being more, you know, accepting of God, it's going to, 2225 01:58:20,890 --> 01:58:23,680 it probably will ramp up because. 2226 01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:29,520 Oh yeah, and even even before that, over the the weekend, I 2227 01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:38,080 was to go onto a podcast Sunday night and when we had got on 2228 01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:42,710 there, we started having. Issue after issue and it was 2229 01:58:42,710 --> 01:58:46,350 just like you know we started having issues to where like you 2230 01:58:46,350 --> 01:58:50,030 know only one person in in the group was telling me that. 2231 01:58:50,190 --> 01:58:53,590 Was able to, you know, was having to hear it and and 2232 01:58:53,590 --> 01:58:56,030 everything. So we end up calling it at night 2233 01:58:56,190 --> 01:58:59,270 Monday night instead. And like, I walked out and I 2234 01:58:59,270 --> 01:59:01,830 immediately sat down and I just kind of started laughing. 2235 01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:11,540 And I'm just like, there was something, clearly, you do know, 2236 01:59:12,540 --> 01:59:15,980 the devil is has dominion over the Airways. 2237 01:59:16,180 --> 01:59:19,020 So that's part of what he has dominion over. 2238 01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:20,740 He has dominion over specific things. 2239 01:59:20,740 --> 01:59:24,380 And people need to, like, understand those things so that 2240 01:59:24,380 --> 01:59:26,220 they can better prepare themselves. 2241 01:59:26,220 --> 01:59:30,460 So before you go on air, say in God's name in Jesus Christ name. 2242 01:59:30,460 --> 01:59:34,620 I take dominion over my Airways, over my electrical things blah 2243 01:59:34,620 --> 01:59:38,120 blah blah. Because honestly and you'll 2244 01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:43,080 notice like if you sit down to study the Bible or watch a Bible 2245 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,960 something you'll get 1000 distractions. 2246 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,760 But you can watch TV all day and never get A1. 2247 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,040 But then if you start doing something that's God centered, 2248 01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:56,080 it doesn't have to be just studying the IT could be a song 2249 01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:00,490 you put on to worship or whatever and you'll notice like, 2250 02:00:00,530 --> 02:00:03,210 oh, you'll get a phone call, oh the dog will bark, oh the kids 2251 02:00:03,210 --> 02:00:05,530 need something, oh you know, blah blah, blah, blah. 2252 02:00:05,610 --> 02:00:08,930 And and it's all distraction. It's all a distraction. 2253 02:00:09,890 --> 02:00:12,730 So definitely, definitely, I would definitely pray. 2254 02:00:12,770 --> 02:00:15,650 Pray lots. All right, will do. 2255 02:00:16,050 --> 02:00:20,090 Anyways, we are about 2 1/2 hours down, so I figured this is 2256 02:00:20,090 --> 02:00:22,210 probably a good. That's awesome stopping point 2257 02:00:22,210 --> 02:00:24,370 for us. So I. 2258 02:00:24,450 --> 02:00:29,630 Think we've covered where they can find you at and all the 2259 02:00:29,630 --> 02:00:32,390 things that they wanna. They wanna listen to you and get 2260 02:00:32,390 --> 02:00:34,470 into touch with you, whatever it may be. 2261 02:00:35,150 --> 02:00:37,830 Awesome. So I am at the unfiltered rise 2262 02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:41,190 on all of the socials on Instagram. 2263 02:00:41,190 --> 02:00:43,710 Most, most of the time. I do have a TikTok. 2264 02:00:43,710 --> 02:00:45,830 I have. I'm on all the platforms. 2265 02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:50,630 Spotify. Let's see what else iHeartRadio. 2266 02:00:50,630 --> 02:00:52,590 I'm on. Apple I'm on. 2267 02:00:52,930 --> 02:00:55,850 All the things in YouTube, all the all the big ones, all the 2268 02:00:55,850 --> 02:00:57,970 little ones. So you should be able to find me 2269 02:00:57,970 --> 02:01:01,490 there at Unfiltered Rise. And also my e-mail is 2270 02:01:01,490 --> 02:01:04,850 unfilteredrise@gmail.com. If you have a story you'd like 2271 02:01:04,850 --> 02:01:08,370 to share with me or get in touch with me, that is how you do 2272 02:01:08,370 --> 02:01:11,010 that. So awesome And it was great 2273 02:01:11,010 --> 02:01:13,170 having you on. I can't wait to have you on 2274 02:01:13,330 --> 02:01:18,010 again and definitely do this, this demon book or just get that 2275 02:01:18,590 --> 02:01:21,470 we'll. Teach people how to be armed 2276 02:01:21,470 --> 02:01:24,390 because nobody is coming to save you like they did in Jesus's 2277 02:01:24,390 --> 02:01:26,470 day. Nobody does it anymore. 2278 02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:29,750 Nope, not at all. Let's arm up some people. 2279 02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:32,790 Exactly. All right, guys. 2280 02:01:32,830 --> 02:01:36,390 And that will end tonight's episode of The Big Ramowski. 2281 02:01:36,830 --> 02:01:37,550 It's weird. Y'all.