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Murder. 
Mayhem. 

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Mormons. 
Why not? 

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You know me and my favorite 
subject, but let's make it a 

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little dicier. 
Literally. 

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I found another Exmo and we are 
together collaborating to make 

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Blood Atonement, a new series 

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from Unfiltered Rise and 
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you down that murderous path. 
You're not gonna wanna miss it. 

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We'll see you there. 
Hello, and welcome to another 

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episode of The Unfiltered Rise. 
I'm Heidi Love. 

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And today I have with me Karen 
Wilkinson, author of Stolen 

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Seed, Evil Harvest. 
Karen, how are you today? 

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Heidi, I'm great. 
I'm so happy to be here with you

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today. 
We've had such a great time 

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talking that it was hard to 
press record and get started 

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with. 
This, yes, it was. 

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We are like jiving already and 
we we definitely have. 

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I think people might be 
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this, I think we might be 
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Think you're right? 
Yeah, I think we're already 

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surprised how much we have in 
common. 

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Yes, exactly. 
So I'm very happy and excited to

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be here. 
We've had our share of technical

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problems trying to get this off 
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It seems like everything that 
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been, and between technical 
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difficulties, you name it. 
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we're definitely trying to stop 
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conversation, So I'm excited to 
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It goes me too, because I I've 
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I've kind of listened a little 
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But for our listeners that 
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just open up with whatever 
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far as like how this became like
how you even had this happen so.

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Cool. 
OK, yeah, I'll just start. 

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So my name is Karen Wilkinson 
and the book is Stolen Seed Evil

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Harvest. 
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account of UFO and non human 
alien abduction experiences that

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I have had, what happened to me,
how I was able to stop these 

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from happening, and the 
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connection that all of this has 
back into what we call what are 

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our Bible, which my friend Ellie
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the supernatural. 
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exactly what it is. 
There's so much more to it than 

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anyone realizes. 
So this was a project that I, 

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God, just put on my heart. 
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marching orders, you March. 
You don't have a choice. 

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You know you March. 
Or you limp after. 

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Right. 
Or you limp or you run or walk 

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or whatever, but you do what you
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Yes, you absolutely get it done.
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share this story quite honestly,
but a couple of years ago, about

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seven years ago I had, I call it
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Some people might call it a near
death experience and it was very

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traumatic the way that it 
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But after that I did some PTSD 
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that therapy allowed me to 
manage all of the memories, the 

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lifelong memories I had of all 
of these things that had 

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happened to me with these non 
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So in doing so, God really put 
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to share this. 
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I'm like, well, God, who am I 
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And he says, you're going to 
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I'm like, right. 
That's going to happen. 

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Yeah. 
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OK, Lord, show me how that's 
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God just put it in place. 
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even looking for, you know, 
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share. 
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And I, God, put us together. 
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account, that I had only ever 
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became the tent pole or the 
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and his UFOUFO series on 
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phenomenon and a part of the 6th
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that. 
I'm in good OL Utah. 

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I totally. 
Know about the. 

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Utilization. 
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So he he after that, I was at a 
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and I had a lot of people coming
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their experiences and talk about
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not the book about the movie. 
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grateful that I had shared my 
testimony and I was terrified 

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about sharing that testimony of 
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I you know, because this is a 
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No one talks about it. 
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delusional if you talk about 
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UFO, an alien, a non human 
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this. 
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ultimately I just want to make 
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conversations for people who 
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to them, to be able to come 
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happened to me, I need to talk 
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they're not alone. 
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about this is feeling alone in 
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Feeling like everyone's going to
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about it and just sharing how to
stop it and sharing who and what

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these entities are. 
Because you know, for for your 

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listeners, this will. 
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your podcast with a Christian 
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This is something that people 
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our Christian Bibles and is 
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part of when you see it in the 
Word, God's word, part of the 

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great deception that you know, 
the strong delusion that God 

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that is going to be sent to 
people, you know these things 

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are, these entities are very 
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And so that is kind of how the 
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And where we are now is the book
is available exclusively at 

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lamarzulli.net and if people 
want to reach me, they can reach

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out to me to my website. 
I get emails every day and I do 

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get back to everyone at some 
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Sometimes it takes a while, but 
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people. 
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e-mail, no matter how many you 
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Doesn't work and they disappear 
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Yes. 
Where do all of our emails go? 

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They just into the ether. 
They never show up into. 

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The ether is probably true. 
Exactly. 

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So it it's been a wild ride 
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Definitely a lot of, you know 
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when you're trying to do good 
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everything like that. 
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love and acceptance as well. 
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because I'm somewhere you know 
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some groups and but it's too woo
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So it puts me in this strange 
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but this is one of the most 
profound topics and people don't

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realize it's, it's worth when 
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talking about aliens or UFOs or 
demons or or deceptions or you 

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know, everything, we're talking 
about the same thing and and 

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it's all, it all ties back into 
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very important for people to 
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of the Bible. 
They only want to teach the fun,

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easy or the mainstream things 
you know when and and that's 

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great if people are getting the 
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But there's it's important that 
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it's all there for a reason and 
it's all there to help us and to

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keep us from being deceived. 
And the deception is so great 

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right now out there in so many 
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So sorry for getting on my 
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that is a long answer. 
Sorry to your question. 

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No, actually I I have no time 
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I never schedule one on top of 
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where conversations are going to
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And I just let them be organic 
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and I love long answers or we 
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podcaster, right. 
I'm chatty and I totally, 

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completely get what? 
Like when I saw just the name of

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your book alone, I was like, Oh 
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because stolen seed. 
I was like, OK, I have, I have 

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some conjectures that are just 
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I have some ideas that are just 
my ideas, but where they came 

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from is kind of a weird thing. 
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like when you're almost granted 
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things, but you're like why? 
I'm just some lady that has a 

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bunch of kids in the middle of 
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And I speak out because they 
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They lied to me and told me that
Masonic works and and weirdo 

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stuff is going to bring down God
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forever. 
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And after I got out and I spent 
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lost most of my family. 
Yeah, it it it's not something 

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you can just leave. 
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me, everyone beneath my mom, we 
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blood of Jesus. 
Jesus, that's amazing. 

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And it it came out of cost, 
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she got out years before she 
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But we all heard it and that's 
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I I love LDS people in general. 
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of that and that the top of 
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anything that's organized and 
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you know, higher than 
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by the 13 elite blood families 
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under that covenant. 
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the LDS Church a covenant. 
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Right, Because they are owned at
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Now, does that mean my neighbor,
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knows this? 
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OK. 
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any of the stuff I do, just like
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So I so connected on such a 
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OK, I'm going to tell her some 
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think, right. 
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I didn't ask to think them. 

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It like kind of was like a 
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Yeah. 
Like, I didn't see anything come

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down. 
It just kind of was like, here 

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you go, you want to know. 
Here you go. 

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And I'm like, I I don't know 
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I wanted to know that. 
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talk about covenant bonds 
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Joy Anderson has a book called 
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I'm going to introduce you to 
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absolutely should talk. 
She is amazing and her book 

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covers these covenants and these
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assault covenants and these 
different kinds of covenants 

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people make and that are made 
for us or on our behest or that 

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we make without even knowing it 
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And the importance of breaking 
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I mean as a as someone who was 
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very young age, I know that what
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else made that agreement, 
someone else agreed that I could

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be taken. 
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by entertaining someone in our 
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we're making a covenant bond. 
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by salt covenants, things like 
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And I won't go too far into it 
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it. 
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And for her and I to speak 
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just really knows her stuff. 
So yeah, we'll have to to get I.

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Would love that because 
anything. 

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Any of my guests that I have are

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like God LED I even somebody 
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They're like you had on this 
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I don't do that. 
But that's not that doesn't 

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matter if God puts it on my 
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I'm going to go. 
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interview with Zachary King. 
He's an ex Satanist. 

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And he became. 
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And when it first happened, I 
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Like, I I was like literally, 
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really scary. 
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Are the people like? 
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Because you he's learned how to 

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break those covenants. 
He's learned how to get away 

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from those things. 
It's so important and as as 

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Christians as we can't sit 
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other based on what religious 
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member of. 
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where the separations came in. 
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that, you know, if we sit around
and start judging each other and

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getting nitpicking with each 
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round? 
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Or did the Nephilim come back 
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they come back because the 
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how to ever came back? 
If we start having all of these 

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sense, these arguments with one 
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sight. 
Love Jesus. 

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And could not. 
Excited Jesus. 

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We lose sight of salvation and 
sharing that gospel. 

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And the most important thing is 
sharing the gospel. 

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that's great. 
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we're going to learn from each 
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And I am fully open to the fact 
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anything and everything you 
know, except for the things that

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I've personally experienced and 
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As I study, I learn more and 
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we have to be open with each 
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entertain each other's 
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opinions, but not judge one 
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and especially not for our 
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Because that's exactly what it 
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In a past, Jesus came to forgive
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continually push them in our 
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right? 
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Look at his chosen brood. 
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people. 
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People like you, people like me,
like you've had different things

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happening to you. 
Where you did leave for a while.

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I definitely left for. 
I didn't never stop believing in

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God, but I was. 
I was angry. 

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I was deceived, you know, But I 
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But like we go through these 
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Why? 
Why would this happen or why 

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have I suffered so much or why 
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And you can do that or and you 
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I rose above and look at you, 
you're staying beneath. 

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No, listen, we need to take the 
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We need to look at the word 
which is love thy neighbor. 

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It didn't say love thy neighbor 
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if it. 
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after he said it was all hung on
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and he wanted us to do one other
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and people cannot do that, it 
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Love all, love one another. 
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They're so difficult with this. 
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other part is? 
It says in the Bible, and this 

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is so important for the end 
days, we are not to be easily 

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offended. 
And if you are, you will 

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probably never learn anything 
because if you're so busy trying

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to say I'm right, they're wrong,
whatever, Just learn from them. 

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Like you can pull from any other
person, just even if they're LED

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astray. 
I always go back to King David. 

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He was a a literal disaster. 
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And and I'm like and I always 
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yeah, but that person blah, 
blah. 

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And this person, I say, I always
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was his nickname? 
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God it was his beloved. 
It was his beloved. 

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That is so drastic. 
You know, that is like, wow, I 

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mean and if he loves sinners and
murderers and he loved Paul and 

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Paul was crazy before and like 
killing everybody like all this 

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stuff. 
And I'm like, and he went 

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forward and without him the 
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you know so. 
Exactly. 

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And the And here we are. 
The Bible is just so full of 

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amazing and interesting 
information, and I try really in

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the book to tie together and to 
show people how all of this fits

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and where it comes from. 
You know, it's we're in a time 

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frame where the word Nephilim is
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mainstream. 
People know what it means. 

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If I'd have stood up in a crowd 
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people would have looked at me 
like, did you sneeze? 

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I'm like, uh, oh, she needs her 
medication. 

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Bring them back. 
Exactly. 

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And now if I said it, you know, 
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and be like, oh, what about him?
I'm really interested, you know.

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Yeah, ask me about that. 
Yeah, you never would have 

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guessed right. 
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a different era where people are
getting more interested in in 

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the more interesting parts of 
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there's a lot more to the Bible 
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verses that were taught over and
over again into adulthood and 

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that nauseam. 
When there's so much more we 

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need to know and we need to 
learn to be able to grow and and

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to be able to deal with 
situations like mine. 

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Because if I hadn't, you know, I
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about 1818 or 19, and I fell 
away from that. 

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I never stopped believing in 
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believing in Jesus. 
But what I did was I stopped 

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believing in myself and living a
lifestyle and stopped believing 

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that I needed to think about it 
or worry about it or be 

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forgiven. 
And then I went kind of down a 

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new age path as well and really 
got embroiled into that until I 

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realized he woke up one day and 
I said, where's Jesus in all 

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this? 
Because I still knew Jesus 

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belonged at the center of 
everything and it was like he's 

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missing. 
And then I listened to a woman. 

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Her name is Doreen Virtue and 
she has a book called Deceived 

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No More. 
And that is an amazing book. 

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I highly recommend that for 
anyone. 

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I highly recommend you get her 
on your show. 

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I don't know her personally. 
She was very popular in the New 

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Age movement and she has is come
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and it's just she's amazing so. 
Without Jesus, it's all not 

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right. 
We all we're. 

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Not creators. 
We're not creators, we're not Co

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creators. 
What we create, we create 

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because we are blessed from God 
to be able to do that. 

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All glory to God, always, 
always. 

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You know, and I could not take 
one step, speak one word, write 

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one word. 
Without God, there would be 

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nothing. 
Whatever I wrote would be 

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useless. 
And that I wouldn't be able to 

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anyway, because he is my 
creator. 

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He's the reason I can do 
anything. 

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So I know I'm going off on a 
tangent that's so far we're. 

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We're we're happy with tangents.
We're going to get into it. 

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The Nephilim is actually huge 
for me because and I'll give you

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my little spiel here. 
It's very condensed, but this is

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like I guess my thoughts, my 
revelation, I suppose I I'm not 

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really sure what to say there. 
But as I studied more, because 

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I'm a nurse, and as I studied 
more about genetics and DNA and 

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the ancestry test became so very
popular. 

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And all of these things were 
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this ramp up for the Nephilim. 
And then I started learning 

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history, not on purpose really. 
I was studying about Joseph 

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Smith and what he really learned
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And then I went down in a cult 
path to John D because I found 

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these really old sigils and 
sigil magic that he had and he 

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wore a Jupiter Talisman until 
the day he died. 

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He was very involved in the 
occult. 

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He had actual sigils that called
down specific angels and I have 

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photos of them and I found these
on accident. 

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Like, I I didn't want to know 
this. 

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Like all I was trying to do was 
figure out what the hell I did 

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in the temple. 
Excuse my French, but that's the

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truth. 
Like, I wanted to know because 

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what you said, I was trying to 
break the line because every 

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person in my family for Eon's 
back had made blood oaths, blood

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oaths. 
And you don't literally spill 

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your blood, but it's symbolic 
because his wife wasn't going to

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do that. 
Like they used to cut the knee 

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and they used to do these cuts 
in the garments and and then you

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sewed them up and then sometimes
you'd get a Nick cure Nick 

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there, whatever. 
But they're very similar to the 

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OTO. 
So anyways, it led me back to 

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John D and I found it by a a 
little thing, a diagram they 

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drew and I reverse looked it up 
and it was this it calling out 

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for this specific angels. 
And I'm like, what was he doing?

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This is so weird. 
And then it led me to, I mean, 

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who was the original calling out
of angels? 

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It was John D So he was the one 
summoning and he did it by 

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scrying. 
Well, Joseph Smith scry the 

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whole Book of Mormon. 
He said that he would put a seer

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stone into a hat, cover his 
head, and he would talk out 

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these symbols. 
Well, I looked at the symbols 

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and I compared them to the 
Enochian alphabet and they are 

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almost identical. 
And when I found all this out, 

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people were really bashing me, 
like, why are you going down in 

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a cult? 
What are you doing? 

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Study like my mom. 
This is my mom. 

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I'm not talking about people. 
Like, I didn't know anybody, OK?

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This is my mom. 
Like you're you're you're 

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studying Alistair Crowley and 
these crazy people and John D 

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what are you doing? 
And I'm like, Mom, it's going to

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take me somewhere. 
I I know I'm supposed to learn 

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about this and I didn't know 
about Gary Wayne. 

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I didn't know about Ryan 
Pedersen. 

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Well, I did learn about them. 
Gary will be on in February. 

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I've already interviewed Ryan 
and. 

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So I'm like, oh, he is. 
So nice I he is like the best. 

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And I just thought, OK, this is 
tying these things together well

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at the same time, that's. 
Ryan's book right there. 

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Oh yes, I love Ryan. 
Yes, and he's a wonderful 

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interview, but also a wonderful 
person. 

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Like so. 
Smart, but not to interrupt you.

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I'm so sorry, Keep. 
Going No, no, you can interrupt.

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I love what you're talking with.
Yeah. 

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So I learned at the same time 
about the old world. 

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And the old world really 
fascinated me because I was 

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getting in these little pictures
of the train and this girl 

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that's covered up and these 
orphan trains and these cabbage,

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they call them cabbage babies, 
you know, these weird phenomena,

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postcards that came out around 
the same time. 

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And these rich women always 
portrayed in red dresses, which 

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was like I literally said to 
Matt because I interviewed Matt 

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from The Great Deception. 
He's very into this. 

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And I said, Matt, did you notice
almost every postcard, the 

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woman's in a red dress like the 
scarlet whore of Babylon. 

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And he didn't. 
And I said, I think that they 

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introduced some things into our 
genetic pool. 

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And I think that This is why 
there's certain things that pop 

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up in some and not others. 
And I don't think it's like a 

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hybrid like specifically like 
what happened to you and and the

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things you saw because it it 
would be not correct in the way 

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it looks right like you but this
junk DNA that they always come 

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up with in the gene of ISIS or 
Genesis like gene of ISIS 

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genesis. 
And so I started learning more. 

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All this? 
And then who is the main 

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perpetrators that pour into 
ancestryitisfamilysearch.org, 

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which was actually started by 
the Mormon Church? 

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Because they're obsessed with 
genealogy. 

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Why? 
Because they do work for the 

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dead. 
Why? 

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Because I believe their God is 
Abraxas, and I believe that they

450
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,040
serve Abraxas. 
And I believe there's actual 

451
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,680
quotes from his mother, Joseph 
Smith's mother, talking about 

452
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,760
how they serve the House of a 
Brac. 

453
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,160
And had I known any of this, I'd
have ran with my tail between my

454
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720
legs before I went and did those
ceremonies. 

455
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,680
But they're blood oaths and we 
don't do this stuff anymore 

456
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,480
where they re enact it. 
But I but they still make you 

457
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,160
take these oaths. 
And I I knew for a fact that I 

458
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,600
had to get my bloodline cut off 
from this. 

459
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,640
Right. 
Because generational curses. 

460
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,240
And we've had tons, some of that
pop up in our families. 

461
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,480
And I one of them was that not 
only my mom, my grandma, my 

462
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,600
great grandma, they've all lost 
their sons. 

463
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200
And I was like, no, I'm not. 
I'm not. 

464
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,720
I'm not having that. 
I only have one son and I'm not.

465
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,000
I'm not doing that. 
And so I had to figure out a way

466
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,680
and I did. 
Through the through the blood of

467
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,440
Jesus. 
Just going to Jesus. 

468
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,120
Yes. 
It took me a year to get out 

469
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:05,520
from under the oppression that I
felt and I had to go through my 

470
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,640
house so much because you know 
they have all these statues of 

471
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,320
that. 
I call him white and delight 

472
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,280
some Jesus. 
But honestly, it doesn't look 

473
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480
like Jesus, but it it you know 
and other people have done 

474
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,800
conjecture on this, yes. 
In Satan's in Satan's Kingdom, 

475
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040
everything is a counterfeit. 
So it might look like Jesus, but

476
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,120
just a little off or a little 
different. 

477
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,960
Blonde and blue eyes. 
Yeah, exactly. 

478
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,520
Norwegian Jesus, right? 
I don't. 

479
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,320
I don't think he saw God or 
Jesus as he claims he did. 

480
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,680
I think he saw fallen angels, 
just like John. 

481
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,400
DI think he asked for it. 
He was summoning these things. 

482
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,880
And when you do that kind of 
stuff, they'll come like, come 

483
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,680
on, no, they'll. 
Come on. 

484
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,800
Yeah, they they're just waiting 
to be invited because everything

485
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560
in this universe that God has 
created is transactional. 

486
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960
And so in order to come in, they
have to be invited. 

487
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,640
There has to be an invitation, 
There has to be, you know, 

488
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,160
permissions. 
There has to be someone. 

489
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Just like in the Book of Job, 
Satan had to be given 

490
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,920
permissions to torture and 
torment Job, You know, he wasn't

491
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,360
allowed to just do it. 
And when people say, well, why, 

492
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,880
you know, why is there pain and 
suffering in this world? 

493
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Like, people ask me that all the
time when interviews. 

494
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,320
I'm like because we live in a 
fallen world and we have free 

495
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,560
will and we've live in a sinful 
world that started in the Garden

496
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040
of Eden, you know, and. 
Well, and who's the owner of 

497
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920
this world? 
Yeah, it's, you know, the owner 

498
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,320
is God, but but the dominion 
right now is Satan, right? 

499
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,880
Because we. 
Also have dominion over the 

500
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,280
earth and over the plane of the 
earth. 

501
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,920
Satan's the Prince of the power 
of the air and and they are more

502
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,960
powerful than we are. 
They've been around a lot longer

503
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800
than we are. 
But they cannot touch us if we 

504
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,040
don't give them permission. 
And they cannot touch us if we 

505
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,640
call on the name of Jesus and 
and tell them to flee. 

506
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,360
Because that's how it works, 
because there is a hierarchy and

507
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,520
there is one at the very top of 
that chain. 

508
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280
And this is what I tell people 
in this community, the UFO 

509
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,560
community, people who have been 
abducted, who have been taken, 

510
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,840
who are still being taken, who 
are being tormented or tortured.

511
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,720
You can call on their creator, 
because their creator is your 

512
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,640
creator. 
And Jesus will listen when you 

513
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,040
call him. 
And if you call on him and ask 

514
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,720
him to save you from these 
entities, he will. 

515
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,040
You know. 
And some people say it works for

516
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,360
me and I'm not even a Christian.
God knows your heart. 

517
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
You know. 
You don't have to vocally do it.

518
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,920
You don't have to. 
You can say it in your head. 

519
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
You can say it in your heart. 
You can say it with your mouth. 

520
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,520
However you do it, however you 
call on him, he's going to, you 

521
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120
know, be there. 
That's just how it works. 

522
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,840
It is a transactional universe 
that he put these rules in place

523
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,880
for a reason. 
So that because he knew we would

524
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,480
be in a fallen world, that we 
would have protections against 

525
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,800
these entities that are so much 
stronger than us that don't live

526
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,840
where we live. 
They don't live in this earthly 

527
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,280
space that we live in. 
They're not. 

528
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,120
They're. 
They can manipulate space-time, 

529
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,120
energy and matter in ways we can
only imagine, you know, And then

530
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,440
you get these humans calling on 
them, just like in the biblical 

531
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,840
times saying, you know, I'll 
I'll trade you, you know, these 

532
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,640
people for these powers or these
people for this technology, you 

533
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
know, and and you get to things 
like the Granada Treaty and 

534
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000
things the same thing now. 
And we're going to trade 

535
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,800
technology and power for you can
experiment on humans and 

536
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240
animals. 
Yes, it just well, and there's 

537
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,520
like so many weird things. 
Yeah, when you go into, like, if

538
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,840
you dive deep into the occult, 
there's like Humunculus and all 

539
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,920
these weird things. 
So when you spoke of the 

540
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,000
artificial wombs, OK, it 
immediately took me to the book 

541
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,680
of the cow, which nobody studies
this weird, dumb stuff except 

542
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000
one-on-one shout out, one-on-one
podcast. 

543
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,920
But like he he does, he dives to
that one, he's amazing. 

544
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,440
And so he talks about this. 
He's kind of the Humunculus guy.

545
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,480
And so I'm like, OK, well, you 
know, you you dive into that and

546
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,680
then you start start just 
breaking down in your mind like,

547
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,920
oh, how come celebrities don't 
have their own babies? 

548
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,560
And where do their babies come 
from? 

549
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,240
And like, oh, they all have 
surrogates. 

550
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,520
But like, how come they're also 
perfectly tall and beautiful and

551
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,280
perfect and, like, and then they
say, well, you know, we didn't 

552
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,920
find out about artificial 
insemination and all this stuff 

553
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,800
till way later. 
But then you've got this orphan 

554
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,480
train. 
And people always say, well, 

555
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,720
their parents died, you silly 
lady. 

556
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,840
I'm like OK, do you know how 
many? 

557
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440
And they just look at you and 
I'm like a quarter million. 

558
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,120
You tell me where a quarter 
million kids came from and why 

559
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,920
do we have so many psychopaths, 
sociopaths, people that are like

560
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,520
people will be easy to call 
them, you know, non playing 

561
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,720
characters and PC type stuff. 
But like they'll accept that, 

562
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400
but they won't accept like maybe
they're not quite right. 

563
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800
You know, maybe these were 
something else introduced. 

564
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Not not per SE. 
Like what happened to you with 

565
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,720
the children. 
And we'll get there. 

566
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,960
But why isn't it? 
It could be exactly the same 

567
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120
thing, because if someone's 
trying to genetically engineer a

568
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,240
being, and this is an 
abomination in God's eyes, God 

569
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920
is a creator when we try to be 
the creator. 

570
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,920
And I'm not talking about normal
procreation with a man and a 

571
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,440
woman as it is intended to be. 
And I'm not even talking about 

572
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,440
artificial insemination. 
If you have to go through IVF or

573
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,800
something like that, that's. 
Fine too. 

574
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,840
What? 
I'm talking. 

575
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,600
About is manipulating genetics 
to try to create these 

576
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,680
superhumans or ubermensch or 
what have you. 

577
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,840
The minute it's no longer just 
the, as God intended, the male 

578
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
and female egg and sperm coming 
together. 

579
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,320
You know at what point does it 
become non human you know at 

580
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,600
what point when you're 
introducing other things that 

581
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,280
are not human DNA into it. 
I think I heard somewhere it was

582
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,360
you know one millionth of 1% I 
don't know some tiny percentage 

583
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920
and I can't. 
I'm looking all over for that 

584
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,600
statistic and that is eluding 
me. 

585
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,400
So God, clearly it's not meant 
to be in my hands right now 

586
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,360
that's fine. 
But you know anything that is a 

587
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,120
non a nepheline is a very 
generic term. 

588
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,600
It's a term for the progeny of 
fallen angelic beings and 

589
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720
humans. 
But then you also have chimeras 

590
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,160
which are a mix of two entities,
not necessarily human. 

591
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320
It could be two animals, it 
could be human animal, it could 

592
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,840
be, you know, whatever. 
So you could be looking at 

593
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,400
modern day nepheline, you could 
be looking at chimeras in those 

594
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,800
trains. 
Never know. 

595
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
And without the DNA evidence, we
don't know. 

596
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,360
But you know, there are people, 
you see, that don't seem to have

597
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
a soul, that don't seem to have 
a spirit. 

598
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,960
And you have to wonder, is this 
a biologically engineered human,

599
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680
or is this a natural human? 
That's one of God's creations, 

600
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560
you know? 
And and we're not here to decide

601
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360
whether someone can have 
salvation or not. 

602
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,040
That's not our place. 
That's God's decision, you know.

603
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,080
But, but I do know that that's 
in our Bible, in our guidebook 

604
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,760
to life, our guidebook to the 
supernatural and all things it 

605
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,040
says, that's an abomination. 
So, you know, we have to be 

606
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,080
aware that these things not only
have existed for thousands of 

607
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520
years but still exist. 
You know, I've been in the 

608
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,240
presence of these entities that 
were offspring that came from 

609
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,720
me, and they were just pure 
evil. 

610
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,000
There was no love, no kindness, 
no nothing, you know? 

611
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,360
And I wanted there to be love. 
I wanted to love them. 

612
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,920
I wanted to save them, I wanted 
to fix them. 

613
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120
I wanted to be a good thing, but
there was nothing there. 

614
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,240
I I remember that part of your 
story. 

615
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,320
It was really heart wrenching, 
kind of when you said they were 

616
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,240
trying to take you. 
I almost like they knew that 

617
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,440
that was like their last card to
play to get you to come back. 

618
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,120
You know, like, OK, send send 
the kids then because she's 

619
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,239
worried about this and she wants
this and I know that you had 

620
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,760
already. 
I think at that point you'd 

621
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,320
already had the experience with 
the baby one, right? 

622
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Where before that? 
Yeah, that was long before. 

623
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Yeah, long before. 
So you knew? 

624
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,880
I knew, but I didn't know for 
sure. 

625
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,560
I still wasn't. 
I still wasn't convinced it was 

626
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,840
just the mother's heart. 
And I know you have a mother's 

627
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,080
heart, so you understand that 
you're never convinced that 

628
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:44,960
anything is beyond help. 
And I'm still not convinced. 

629
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,880
But I know that it's not my 
place. 

630
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,000
I don't. 
I'm not making that judgement 

631
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
call. 
All I can say is that there was 

632
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,440
nothing there for me to do and 
nothing for me to save or to 

633
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,840
help and there. 
Was more of like a trick I feel 

634
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,600
like. 
Oh yeah, it definitely was. 

635
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,520
It was trying to get me to make 
one last agreement. 

636
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560
And I don't know if because 
there was some of my DNA in 

637
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,800
there that that's how they were 
allowed to cross the threshold. 

638
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,880
There was. 
I left that open. 

639
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880
I left that covenant open 
because I wasn't ready to let go

640
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,160
of them. 
So I am the reason they were 

641
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,320
able to cross the threshold into
my room. 

642
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
But at that point, then I closed
that, I closed that door, I I 

643
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,680
broke that covenant. 
I broke those ties and those 

644
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,280
binds. 
Like you said, you've got to cut

645
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,520
those things and do it for the 
safety of yourself and your 

646
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,560
family because we are dealing 
with entities that are so much 

647
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,960
more powerful than we are. 
People are out there doing, you 

648
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,560
know, the CE5 contact stuff 
where they're calling on UFOs 

649
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,240
and aliens to calm down. 
And I'm just like. 

650
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,920
What are you doing? 
Yeah, well. 

651
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,800
Conjuring things. 
You're conjuring things. 

652
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,320
You're calling forth evil you 
you know you don't know what 

653
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,560
you're going to get. 
You know and and and then evil 

654
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
beings not going to say, hey, 
I'm a good guy or I'm an evil 

655
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,680
guy, we're going to you know 
they're going to be deceptive. 

656
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120
So it's such a dangerous place 
to play for anyone. 

657
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,280
Yeah, I highly believe. 
I think that possibly even 

658
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,840
people, I mean think about how 
many times you go in for a 

659
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,520
surgery and you're asleep and 
you don't know if you were 

660
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,840
having. 
And I'm not saying every 

661
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,840
doctor's nefarious or anything 
like that. 

662
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,920
I'm just saying sometimes if 
they were after a specific 

663
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,560
situation and even if the it's 
not the operating room, you know

664
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,800
what? 
Like if if you're in there and 

665
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,040
you're having cysts taken out of
your ovaries or you're having 

666
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,720
your ovaries removed because you
had a hysterectomy or you've had

667
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,880
some female problem and they 
need to test your eggs or 

668
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,000
whatever that is, where does 
that go to after the surgical 

669
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,680
team? 
Right. 

670
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,400
Like, even if they're completely
on the up and up, you're sending

671
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,240
these samples somewhere, you 
know? 

672
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,440
And to where? 
Well, we OK to the lab Place, 

673
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,040
lab.com, like, whatever, but you
don't know what they're really 

674
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,360
doing. 
And they could have samples from

675
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,600
each and every one of us, you 
know? 

676
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,880
I mean, and as a society, we're 
extremely naive. 

677
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,320
We're either way too paranoid or
we're way too naive. 

678
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,720
There just isn't a really good 
because it is snuck up on us to 

679
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,720
the point that no one realized 
it was happening. 

680
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,040
And then by the time you realize
things like that egg harvesting 

681
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,520
and and DNA harvesting and 
everyone who's done these DNA 

682
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,640
things, now their DNA is part of
a giant databank. 

683
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,280
And it's not just theirs because
theirs is there. 

684
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,480
It provides DNA for their family
as well, because of what's in 

685
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,040
your DNA. 
And you know now, now that 

686
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,000
information is no longer yours. 
Now that information belongs to 

687
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
someone else. 
And you, you have no control. 

688
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560
Well, and I think we can't even 
protect ourselves from that 

689
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,720
because think of any time you've
had a blood test, think of even 

690
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,920
if you didn't do these weird 
little tests, like anytime, I 

691
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,360
think they're looking for 
something. 

692
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,160
And people always think that our
DNA, if they want it, I mean, 

693
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
there's no way not to. 
And you're born. 

694
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,320
If you're born in a hospital, 
someone has your DNA. 

695
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,040
Yeah, because those PK tests, as
soon as you're born, the PKU 

696
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,520
test is done on your on your 
heel. 

697
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,520
And they say, they say that this
blood sample, and it's done 

698
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,800
completely different than any 
other sample I've ever taken in 

699
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,720
my life. 
It's on a paper, it's like a 

700
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:38,800
litmus paper. 
And those can last for years and

701
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,320
I'm talking many years. 
They dry them out and they can 

702
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,400
flake off. 
They can get little pieces. 

703
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,920
They can do all kinds of things 
with this testing for a long 

704
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840
period of time and they file 
them. 

705
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640
That's why they have them. 
So they can go back and file 

706
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,800
them if there's ever, Oh yeah, 
we did test that or oh, clear 

707
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,080
back and whenever that was. 
You know, these people, the only

708
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,880
people that don't have them done
basically is kids born at home. 

709
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,520
Or even then I had a daughter 
born at home. 

710
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,800
They still did it on her first 
visit. 

711
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,680
So I mean they've categorized us
and I do highly believe that 

712
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,520
between a certain type of people
they're looking for something in

713
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,480
that junk DNA and they are. 
And I I think you nailed it when

714
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,960
you said, well, I don't know if 
it was because I'm an O negative

715
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,360
or what what's going on with 
that? 

716
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,680
And then there again you get to 
that RH factor that didn't even 

717
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,920
exist until 1938 and so. 
Yeah. 

718
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040
And they wanted my bloodline. 
They wanted the bloodline in my 

719
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
family. 
I do have one of those 

720
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,240
interesting bloodlines. 
I won't disclose that all here. 

721
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,440
But, you know, I can talk about 
that offline. 

722
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
But, you know, but they know 
what my bloodline is and who it 

723
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,320
goes back to. 
And that was important. 

724
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,920
They always told me you're very 
important. 

725
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,200
You're very important, your 
bloodline. 

726
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,120
And they also let me know that 
in a way. 

727
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,600
I was safe because I was 
important. 

728
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,240
And so I knew that even though 
they were torturing me, even 

729
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,640
though they were taking me, even
though I didn't want this to 

730
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,680
happen, and even though I was 
threatened, they would threaten 

731
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,480
other members of my family to 
keep me quiet, not threaten me. 

732
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,640
And they could threaten me with 
things that I didn't want to 

733
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:25,560
happen, but the real physical 
bodily harm was to others. 

734
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,960
And I know that's common with 
little kids anyway, to threaten,

735
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,720
you know, others. 
But when you want to keep that 

736
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,640
child alive, when you want to 
keep that child, because they're

737
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,200
valuable, just like in any kind 
of a trafficking situation, you 

738
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,480
threaten the ones that they 
love. 

739
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,680
And that's what they did to me. 
And. 

740
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,240
Well, and that's how they 
control people for so long. 

741
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,640
Because as a kid, you don't know
any different. 

742
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600
You don't know. 
You really don't know what they 

743
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,400
could do because look at what 
they'd already done to you. 

744
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,560
I didn't know who and what they 
were. 

745
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480
There were humans and then there
were all these different kinds 

746
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,720
of non human entities. 
I didn't know that what to call 

747
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,960
them. 
I didn't know what an Ambien was

748
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,960
or a Gray was or a Reptilian or 
a Nordic or any of those things.

749
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,360
I didn't have any vocabulary for
it. 

750
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,320
I would describe them the way 
they looked. 

751
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,120
You know the little ones that 
came to get me. 

752
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,280
I I just remember always saying 
that and nobody knew what I was 

753
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,720
talking about. 
And then, you know, whatever I 

754
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:21,040
would say would be, oh, she's, 
you know, you had a bad dream or

755
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,920
she's talking about kids at 
school or there was always an 

756
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,600
excuse, you know, someone. 
And I get that because when a 

757
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,440
kid tells you something, you try
to figure out what they're 

758
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,200
talking about when you can't. 
Understand. 

759
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,800
And you were as young as six, 
right? 

760
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,760
You were younger. 
Than that. 

761
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Oh no, it's probably from I'm 
sure from infant on because my 

762
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,720
earliest memories are being 
terrified of that my father's 

763
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,720
side of the family and that was 
like two or three years old when

764
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,320
I remember being at that a 
specific family event and just 

765
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,760
being terrified. 
And it's one of those flash 

766
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,240
memories that's very very clear.
So you know I just remember them

767
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840
always being there. 
I don't. 

768
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,040
And that goes back to. 
That, yeah. 

769
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,600
That that family genetic part 
that you're like, oh, they 

770
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,360
looked like this. 
Well, that goes back to the 

771
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
whole Nephilim description. 
Like, like these people that 

772
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520
they do this on, a lot of times 
they'll have certain 

773
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,240
characteristics. 
Not race, not race talking 

774
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,080
either, certain bloodline 
families, certain way. 

775
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Your eyes are spaced. 
Different things like eye 

776
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,520
spacing, exactly. 
They like a color, that kind of 

777
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,720
thing. 
They're always looking for very 

778
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:32,320
specific things because they've 
learned that certain genetic 

779
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,360
traits are easier for them to 
work with. 

780
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,480
They know they know what they're
looking for. 

781
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,400
They don't share that 
information with us. 

782
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,080
But they make it very clear that
they know exactly what they 

783
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,520
want, exactly what they're 
looking for and what they're 

784
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600
trying what they need to do. 
We're not Privy to that 

785
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,360
information. 
No one gets to sit down. 

786
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,520
You know, when I was taken, they
didn't sit down with me and say,

787
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,120
now, here's what we're going to 
do today and why. 

788
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,840
You know, it was shut up, sit 
down and you're going to do what

789
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,000
we tell you to do. 
And you know, that's that's what

790
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
it was because it was an abusive
situation, you know, and it was 

791
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,640
against so. 
And for anyone in that 

792
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,000
situation, you know, any kind of
a grooming situation, I mean 

793
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,920
it's no different than child 
trafficking. 

794
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,080
It's no different than child 
grooming in any other form. 

795
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,760
It's just different entities and
our government knows about it. 

796
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,160
There's no doubt in my mind. 
I am. 

797
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,720
I I think the government is 
infiltrated with many of these 

798
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,640
entities that are probably 
hybrid. 

799
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,640
You look at some of these things
and. 

800
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,240
Even. 
At the Yeah, even at the top 

801
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,720
line of like, Mormonism. 
I see it. 

802
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,040
I. 
I they're too big or too widely 

803
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040
spaced. 
Or I'll look at a face and I'll 

804
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,960
just know and I'll get, I'll 
just get terrified. 

805
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,080
I'll hyperventilate. 
I'll have to turn away, walk 

806
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,520
away, whatever. 
Yeah, I can't. 

807
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,440
You can't. 
And you're not the only one, and

808
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,280
I'm not the only one. 
There are a lot of us who've 

809
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,880
been. 
If you've been in around them 

810
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,760
enough, you know, you know 
they're here. 

811
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,960
And it's so, it's so strange 
because I think partially they 

812
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,000
did infiltrate into the gene 
pool, which is why we get some 

813
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,040
of these people that are, you 
know, red headed, super fair, 

814
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,120
whatever the trait may be like 
it could be a lot of things, you

815
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,360
know? 
Did they infiltrate or did we 

816
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,000
infiltrate their gene pool? 
Is it far red hair that got into

817
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,600
their gene pool? 
Because what they did was they 

818
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,200
went into the 12 tribes of 
Israel because they didn't know 

819
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,200
where Jesus was going to be come
from, right? 

820
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,120
So they had to go into each of 
the tribes. 

821
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,200
So you have so many different 
kinds of nepheline. 

822
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,800
Everything's nepheline. 
They think giant or red haired, 

823
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,280
which, yes, some more, but not 
all of them. 

824
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,000
They were all different. 
There were tiny ones. 

825
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,480
There were big ones. 
There were little ones. 

826
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,280
There were skinny ones. 
There was the zanzamines, the 

827
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,920
buzzing ones, the long necked 
ones that you know so many 

828
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,080
different kinds. 
And and when you start doing 

829
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,680
research like you have into the 
ancient books and the ancient 

830
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,920
scripts, what they try to keep 
away from us and out of our 

831
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,280
Bibles and try to keep us from 
learning, then you realize 

832
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,320
there's so much more to it. 
And so you know, the red hair 

833
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,960
didn't doesn't And people like, 
oh, I have red hair. 

834
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,480
Does that mean I'm descendant of
a Nephilim? 

835
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,040
No, it just means you're 
descendant of a tribe that had 

836
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,440
red hair and some Nephilim 
probably red in with that tribe.

837
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,240
And that's how they got the red 
hair for, you know, I have O 

838
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:14,680
negative blood. 
Well, I don't know where that 

839
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880
came from. 
All it is, O negative means that

840
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,800
your blood does not have the 
coat. 

841
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,200
Well, you know this because 
you're a nurse. 

842
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,760
You know, this is better than 
most people. 

843
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,320
It just means you don't have 
that protein covering on the 

844
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,280
cell. 
And so it's almost as if someone

845
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,000
was experimenting with our blood
and figured out how to remove 

846
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
that so it'd be easier to work 
with. 

847
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Now, who might do that? 
An advanced species. 

848
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,720
This is my theory. 
My theory is they were. 

849
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,600
The reason it was all found in 
one specific region is they were

850
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,480
experimenting with a group of 
people. 

851
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,240
It worked. 
They expanded that 

852
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,920
experimentation out. 
I happen to have a lineage 

853
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,120
that's close to the way that 
group of people is, even though 

854
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,000
I don't look like them. 
That doesn't matter. 

855
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,120
That gets spread out. 
But that, and once they got that

856
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,280
coating off, they were able to 
crack back into our bloodlines 

857
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,680
again. 
Because I think when, and I 

858
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,960
write about this in the book 
too. 

859
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,120
There's a lot of this in the 
book. 

860
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,760
I'm touching on a lot of things,
but I'm not going into them in 

861
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,320
detail. 
But in the book I talk about my 

862
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
thoughts about Noah and what 
happened in the days of Noah. 

863
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Because the Bible says the end 
times, it will be like the days 

864
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,480
of Noah. 
When you think about what 

865
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000
happened in the days of Noah, we
don't know what it was like 

866
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,880
before the flood. 
We have the amazing Pentateuch, 

867
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,200
the five books of the Bible that
Moses gave us, right? 

868
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,000
That God gave Moses to tell what
happened. 

869
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,680
But this was God's really 
abridged version of the history 

870
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,480
of the world up to that point. 
And it's all we needed for 

871
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,360
salvation. 
But we don't have the details. 

872
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
I think the civilization before 
Noah was more advanced than ours

873
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,400
today. 
I think that they were far 

874
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,080
advanced. 
I don't think they had rain. 

875
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000
I think rain was something that 
happened in the days of Noah. 

876
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Nobody even knew what rain was. 
Every indication in that Bible 

877
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,880
is that there wasn't rain before
then. 

878
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,760
And I think that the genetics 
were different. 

879
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,200
And when God closed him in the 
ark, I think he closed their 

880
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,000
blood as well because the life 
is in the blood. 

881
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,120
I think he put that protective 
coating on the blood, closed him

882
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,280
in the ark, closed the blood and
changed it so that they couldn't

883
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,080
procreate anymore. 
And they were able to find some 

884
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,600
offshoots here and there where 
they were able to manage to do 

885
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,080
some. 
I think that everyone is right 

886
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,000
when it comes to Noah, because I
do think that some of the people

887
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,360
on the Ark, their blood wasn't 
changed, but I think Noah's 

888
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,400
family was. 
I think that there's a whole lot

889
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,240
of there going on, but that's 
where I think that change came. 

890
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,920
I don't know. 
I could be totally wrong. 

891
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
It's just my theory. 
There are a lot of theories. 

892
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,360
Anything to say about that's 
going to be conjecture at this 

893
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,000
point, but something changed at 
that point. 

894
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,400
Something very, very much 
changed. 

895
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,600
And then you look at extra 
canonical books like the Book of

896
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,120
Jasher, where one of Noah's 
grandsons went and found the 

897
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,800
ancient carvings on the pillar. 
And didn't. 

898
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,280
Tell his grandfather, 'cause he 
know it was sinning, but he 

899
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,720
found the the work that the 
angels have done, that 

900
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:07,520
information and the ancient 
technology and, you know, tried 

901
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,800
to bring that back. 
Yeah, well, and you see, you see

902
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,680
in Egypt you can find old 
carvings on walls and things 

903
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,720
with like electricity. 
They they've had all this stuff 

904
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,640
before. 
I mean, this is not yeah, but 

905
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,880
they have lots of pictures of 
things. 

906
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,160
And the reason we hide, the 
reason we don't understand it, 

907
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,760
is because it's technology that 
doesn't match ours. 

908
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,040
I mean, our computers look like 
our computers look theirs could 

909
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560
have looked completely 
different, you know? 

910
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,080
Their screens could have just 
floated around on a string with 

911
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,400
them like a balloon. 
Who knows? 

912
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,120
I'm just doing, you know, 
conjectural. 

913
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,080
There but. 
We don't know. 

914
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,920
I mean, you know, there there 
are just so many possibilities 

915
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,240
and we try to make everything 
fit in this little box so that 

916
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,920
we are the superior apex 
creatures and anything before us

917
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,800
was just a caveman. 
And that's ridiculous thinking, 

918
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,960
because that's not what we're 
told. 

919
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,800
Not in, not in the Bible. 
Not in the ancient texts and 

920
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,120
information that we have from 
not just our Christian 

921
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,880
literature, but literature all 
over the world, in our religious

922
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,360
beliefs all over the world. 
So there's just so much to it. 

923
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,440
And. 
Well, and I don't think I I 

924
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,880
think that God knew the 
creations would be destroyed. 

925
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,000
But we know one thing. 
The whole reason why God was so 

926
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,960
upset that the angels wanted to 
come mate with human women was 

927
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880
because they were everlasting 
beings. 

928
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Now you cannot destroy an 
everlasting being. 

929
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
But he did destroy what they 
were monkeying with, right? 

930
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,920
They they're creating all kinds 
of things. 

931
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,120
Why do we have these, you know, 
old pictures of of men, half 

932
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,760
horse, Half Men, half the 
Sphinx, whatever, like all 

933
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,400
these, you know, different 
things that are weird. 

934
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,440
Yeah. 
And all these mishmashed. 

935
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Chimeras and things like that. 
And we knew that was wrong. 

936
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,960
But yeah. 
And we also know that man, we 

937
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,800
were immortal as well. 
Until the sin in the garden, you

938
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,720
know and that was out of 
jealousy from Satan, from the 

939
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:13,200
Nakash, you know and and there 
and it just and it all had to 

940
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,640
happen because it sets up this 
this beautiful story. 

941
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,680
Everything happened for Jesus. 
All of it happens for Jesus and 

942
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,240
it's all worth it because it all
happened for Jesus and it and it

943
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,080
gives. 
You've got the ability to 

944
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,080
separate the wheat from the 
chaff and it and you know, you 

945
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,320
know you immediately you can 
find the good big buds that are 

946
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,600
these are good Christians. 
We're going to put them here, 

947
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,080
but the last will be first and 
the first will be last, you 

948
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,360
know, and I am very excited 
about what comes out last 

949
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,680
because that's going to be first
and they're going to be amazing,

950
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,080
you know. 
And I'm happy to take the last 

951
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,680
seat, if that's what it is, 
because I want every possible, I

952
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,760
want to be here to make sure I 
share the gospel with every 

953
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,440
possible person I can before our
time comes and before we're 

954
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,040
taken up or before God calls me 
back home, you know, And I've 

955
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,320
had enough times where I've 
been. 

956
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,360
I thought that day was coming. 
You know, I've planned my own 

957
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,040
memorial more than once. 
And God's like, Nope, we're 

958
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,360
going to heal you now. 
And you're going to keep going. 

959
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,080
I'm like, OK, you know, but I'm 
prepared you. 

960
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,320
Know I'll do it. 
Yeah. 

961
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,760
Yeah that's me too. 
I'll do it. 

962
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,240
I still am confused why like I'm
doing it. 

963
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:26,160
But like it's fine you know and 
as we go forward like we like 

964
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,160
you've said. 
I think that search for the 

965
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,760
knowledge as long as it's in 
engulfed in Christ. 

966
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,240
That's the point like, and I 
always told my mom that when I 

967
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,800
would search these scary things,
like she would say why but what 

968
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,480
about this And I'm like, okay? 
Well, Jesus has me like it's. 

969
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,480
I'm not doing this just Willy 
nilly. 

970
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,520
You don't just go run into it do
I think everyone needs to read 

971
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,080
the book of the law and talk 
about and. 

972
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,880
I do not recommend it for most. 
People. 

973
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,800
I don't think so. 
Unless God calls you to read it 

974
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,320
because you're helping others by
doing it because you need to, 

975
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160
because it's coming against you 
and you have to defend yourself.

976
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,160
And you know, I don't question 
when God has me do something, 

977
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,640
but I do pray about it first. 
If I'm not sure, and then if I 

978
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,400
don't feel good about it, I put 
it aside. 

979
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
And if God brings it back on my 
heart, then I'll know it's OK. 

980
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,680
And you know And we ask God for 
confirmation, absolutely bless 

981
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,880
us, you know to remove the 
scales from our eyes and to and 

982
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,520
to bless us with just being able
to see see the good from the 

983
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,520
evil and and with that 
discernment And and that's 

984
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,120
really important to pray for. 
And I encourage everyone to pray

985
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,520
for discernment every day, 
especially with the people we 

986
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,480
meet because you know wolves and
sheep clothes, wolves and 

987
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,840
sheep's clothing. 
I can't speak today. 

988
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,760
You know, that's everywhere. 
And that's, that's what these 

989
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,320
UFOs are. 
And I believe that these alien 

990
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
beings are fallen angelic 
beings. 

991
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,680
I believe the smaller Greys are 
inhabited by demonic entities. 

992
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,760
You know, they're always looking
for a body to inhabit. 

993
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,040
And I've written a great deal on
that. 

994
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,760
And I really believe that the 
coming, as LA Marzulli had 

995
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,120
coined the coming great 
deception, the strong delusion 

996
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,120
that we sent to us is going to 
be them saying there are 

997
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,360
ancestral Cedars, they're here 
to save the world. 

998
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,880
They're here to help us and and 
all this thing. 

999
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,800
I'm like, you know, helpful, 
benevolent entities don't kidnap

1000
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,800
little children and rape women 
and steal babies, scare people 

1001
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,720
and hurt people and mutilate 
cows and mutilate humans. 

1002
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,560
You know, there's not just 
cattle mutilations, there's 

1003
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,800
human mutilations. 
No one ever likes to talk about 

1004
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,560
that. 
But that's did happen. 

1005
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,320
And you know, all that stuff 
gets covered up, You know, and 

1006
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,680
and then this. 
Or serial murders or whatever. 

1007
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Like you want to, OK, you know 
you want to go into that. 

1008
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,400
Like I find it fascinating if 
you if you watch like about 

1009
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Billy, I can't remember his last
name, but he was like a multiple

1010
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,880
personality and he literally 
would talk about having these 

1011
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,000
different feelings inside. 
And I'm like, this is literally 

1012
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,240
possession. 
Like people, people don't hit 

1013
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,040
it. 
And like, you can see it and he 

1014
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,360
doesn't know. 
Like that's the thing he doesn't

1015
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,400
know. 
And so like a lot of times you 

1016
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160
look at things like that and you
go, OK, I see, I see, I see 

1017
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,480
what's going on here and I can 
feel the difference. 

1018
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,480
I'm a mental. 
The movie that came out called. 

1019
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,840
I can't think of the name of it.
Shoot. 

1020
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Nefarious. 
Is it? 

1021
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,880
Nefarious. 
Oh, I don't know about an 

1022
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,320
affair. 
I haven't watched that one yet, 

1023
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,080
but. 
I I was not going to watch it. 

1024
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,840
But then I heard somebody do do 
a review on it. 

1025
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,560
And I'm like, and I prayed about
it. 

1026
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,880
And I prayed about it. 
And I prayed about it. 

1027
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,400
And I felt God led me, kept 
telling me to watch it and I 

1028
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,520
kept going, No, God, there's no 
way you want me to watch that 

1029
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,240
movie. 
And this is one of those 

1030
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,320
situations, like you and I were 
just talking about God kept 

1031
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,680
putting in my heart, watch the 
movie, watch the movie. 

1032
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,200
And I kept going, No God. 
That's got to be, you know. 

1033
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,800
And so I just prayed for 
discernment and I felt really, 

1034
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,560
truly to watch it. 
And I'm, it blessed me to watch 

1035
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,600
it. 
And I had a few other people who

1036
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,320
I felt needed to watch it, watch
it. 

1037
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,920
And it helped them understand 
the spiritual realm a little 

1038
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,440
better and how deceptive it can 
be. 

1039
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,400
So that was, you know, that was 
a huge, yeah, that maybe for me 

1040
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,600
it was helpful. 
Now I would say to anyone who 

1041
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640
think is thinking about watching
it, do your research first, you 

1042
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,280
know, the eyes are windows to 
your soul. 

1043
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,080
I didn't feel anything negative 
coming at me. 

1044
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
There was a lot of scripture in 
that movie. 

1045
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,680
So I think in that respect it 
was good. 

1046
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,480
But again, I'm not saying to 
watch it or not. 

1047
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,880
I'm just saying, pray about it 
if you're going to watch it. 

1048
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,760
Make sure well, and anytime we 
we see these things, we see them

1049
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,080
constantly with the new movie 
that they just did the end of 

1050
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,400
the world movie thing. 
It's revelation of the method 

1051
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,760
over and over and over again. 
And you're just like, but what? 

1052
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,560
But my mom always says because 
she's very still. 

1053
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,200
Like what up. 
But the government loved us when

1054
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,640
we were young. 
You know what I mean? 

1055
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Type of thing. 
And I'm like, mom, OK, I get it.

1056
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,280
But like, here's the thing. 
Yeah. 

1057
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,920
And I'm. 
Like, put the fluoride in the 

1058
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,280
water when you were young, mom. 
That's when they started 

1059
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
covering up UFO crashes in the 
1800s. 

1060
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,560
You know, it's not, it didn't 
start with Roswell. 

1061
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,280
I bring up Roswell in the book 
because everyone knows it and it

1062
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,280
just shows the deception. 
But it didn't start there. 

1063
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,720
There's reports going back into 
the 1800s and that's just 'cause

1064
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,600
we have recorded history, but 
before that it knows. 

1065
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,360
Yeah, they started taking down 
buildings, they started hiding 

1066
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,320
bones, They started this all 
goes into like old world 

1067
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,600
tartaria kind of stuff. 
And people, people kind of poo 

1068
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,200
poo it. 
But I'm like, you know what? 

1069
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,960
They were hiding something. 
Too much proof was out there. 

1070
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,720
I grew up way to the middle of 
all those ancient earthworks. 

1071
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,760
They tried to call them Native 
American, but the Native 

1072
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,000
American people my dad knew said
they didn't build them. 

1073
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,040
And every, you know, everyone. 
And they say the people came 

1074
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,320
from the sky. 
Yeah, that that came down. 

1075
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:53,480
They talk about this. 
And and actually Blue Star comes

1076
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,280
from the Hopi people and they 
say that their women are 

1077
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,880
impregnated often by the Blue 
Star people that come down and 

1078
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,640
they have these indigo children,
right. 

1079
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,120
That's right. 
And then look at the Hopi 

1080
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,320
prophecies and all of that. 
And. 

1081
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,880
And, yeah, and and we knew 
growing up, we knew it was just 

1082
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,400
everybody knew that. 
And you know I'm older so this 

1083
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,720
is, you know, 50 plus years ago.
But everyone knew that this, 

1084
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,720
that they came and took the 
giant bones from the mounds 

1085
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,360
because they were excavating all
these mounds and they called the

1086
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,200
one site Mound City when I was 
growing up. 

1087
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,920
And and you know that was real. 
That took a lot of thought, 

1088
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,960
right. 
Anyway, but one of the mounds 

1089
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,480
was half excavated and it had 
plexiglass in front of it and it

1090
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,800
showed you everything that was 
in there. 

1091
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,520
And there were big bones and 
stuff in there because were they

1092
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,600
giant? 
I don't know. 

1093
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,600
You know, I was a kid. 
I couldn't measure them. 

1094
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,960
But then they made him close 
that up and they, everyone said 

1095
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,200
the Smithsonian came and took 
all the bones, took the giant 

1096
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,840
bones, and they were so. 
And the gate, the star gates 

1097
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,560
that they took down there were 
everywhere. 

1098
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,480
They were all over the place. 
And then like, oh, all of a 

1099
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,480
sudden they're gone. 
Except, you know, the main. 

1100
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,440
Friend, you should talk to about
that too. 

1101
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Yeah, that for you because yeah,
we've got, I mean this is 

1102
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,040
something where I think you want
like six or seven people, but 

1103
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,640
maybe that's too much 
conversation That becomes a 7 

1104
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,560
hour I'm. 
Always up for a conversation. 

1105
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,160
And I I mean people. 
That have different. 

1106
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Knowledge, right? 
It's so hard to bring it all 

1107
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,080
together if you don't have all 
the like, I might have some, you

1108
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,240
might have some right? 
Where all the hands and fingers 

1109
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,920
and toes and head of God, like 
we're we're putting this 

1110
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,360
together. 
And so, like people, people are 

1111
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,560
like, well, why would you talk 
about that or why would you talk

1112
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640
about this? 
I'm like, yeah, but think about 

1113
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,040
what I'm saying. 
What did they do in America as 

1114
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,120
they're introducing more white 
people than ever have lived 

1115
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,040
anywhere else in the whole wide 
world. 

1116
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,280
OK. 
Other than the United Kingdom. 

1117
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,640
And they have more black people 
than we did originally. 

1118
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,440
OK, we brought people over. 
But I still don't buy that 

1119
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,080
either 100%. 
I think a lot of them are here. 

1120
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
They were here or they were 
doing things. 

1121
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,840
But what did they do to the 
black people and the Indian 

1122
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,040
people that didn't write down 
their tradition? 

1123
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,840
What did they do? 
They spoke their tradition. 

1124
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,120
They had their own language. 
Like, you can't infiltrate that.

1125
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,720
That's like sacred. 
And So what they do, they kill 

1126
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,840
them all. 
Yeah yeah The old tradition they

1127
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,640
were very dangerous and but you 
know and the other because they 

1128
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,920
would have one. 
You know if you were chosen in 

1129
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,520
that tribe that's your whole 
life from the time you were born

1130
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,600
was doing nothing but memorizing
the oral traditions and and 

1131
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,880
those are the most dangerous 
people because they hold the 

1132
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,480
secrets to the past and and the 
one thing that my again I bring 

1133
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,280
him up all the time my friend 
Ellie Marsalis says are you know

1134
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,200
the past has been deliberately 
obfuscated from the people the 

1135
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,720
people this and and he's you 
know that's why he's on the 

1136
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,040
trail. 
And I don't think the angels are

1137
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,320
any fallen angels, let's say 
anywhere up there. 

1138
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,320
Everybody always wants to say to
look to the sky. 

1139
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,920
They're definitely, absolutely 
never went anywhere. 

1140
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,320
Absolutely the government knows 
about them. 

1141
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,680
There has been so much activity 
in Mount Shasta for one inter 

1142
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,080
airport. 
They're interdimensional and 

1143
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,640
they're, you know, we we try to 
put them in this box and say 

1144
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,480
they and they're to we can't 
because they're not us and they 

1145
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,320
don't live like us. 
They don't live in our dimension

1146
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,000
all the time and they're just so
different from us. 

1147
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,680
And that's what's hard is we 
don't understand the first thing

1148
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080
about them. 
So how can we say they live on 

1149
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Zeta Reticuli when we don't even
know where they're from? 

1150
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,880
You know could they go from one 
planet to another? 

1151
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,760
Of course they could. 
They could probably go many, 

1152
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,560
many, many places we couldn't 
even imagine. 

1153
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,120
But from what I have 
experienced, most of them are 

1154
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,720
living in these underground 
facilities right under our feet.

1155
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,880
I mean, you look at the Atlantic
Ocean and there's a trench in 

1156
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,520
the Atlantic Ocean that's 
something like 25,000 feet deep.

1157
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,640
How many Empire State buildings 
can you fit in there? 

1158
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,440
A lot. 
You know, think about that. 

1159
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,240
If that's how deep the ocean is,
how much space is under our feet

1160
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,880
that you can use to build? 
Nobody knows that there's a 

1161
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,360
molten core at the center of the
Earth. 

1162
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,680
Everything we know about the 
Earth is conjecture. 

1163
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,000
No one's gone there. 
You can't prove it. 

1164
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,080
But I have been underground and 
there are facilities bigger than

1165
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,400
anything you can imagine, bigger
than the biggest football 

1166
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,440
stadium and airport and 
everything put together. 

1167
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,320
It's crazy so. 
It's like a whole nother world. 

1168
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,720
And it's not just me. 
I mean, so I've talked to so 

1169
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,960
many people who have the same 
experience as I do. 

1170
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,200
And the point I really want to 
get across is these are, I 

1171
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,640
really believe these are the 
fallen, the fallen beings. 

1172
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,280
You know, angels is just a term 
we use to describe them. 

1173
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,240
They're the Beneha, Elohim, the 
sons of God, the ones that fell,

1174
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,440
you know, Satan fell and took a 
third of them with him. 

1175
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,960
And as the late Doctor Chuck 
Missler likes to say, Satan's 

1176
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,920
outnumbered. 
He's building an army. 

1177
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,720
And every person he can get, 
every hybrid, you know, every 

1178
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,320
Nephilim is another person he 
can add to that army. 

1179
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,120
And to keep people away and to 
keep people from learning the 

1180
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,120
truth, the truth about the 
gospel of Jesus and the truth 

1181
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,000
about eternal life, you know, 
they're offering people here. 

1182
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,760
We can help you live, you know, 
extended lives and all these 

1183
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,720
things. 
And you know, oh, isn't modern 

1184
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,680
technology great? 
No, it's not great. 

1185
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,760
We already have eternal life. 
We get that. 

1186
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,120
Jesus, you know, you don't have 
to go get a chip implanted in my

1187
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,920
forehand or my head to get it. 
So that thank you. 

1188
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,200
I'll take God all day. 
Less. 

1189
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,040
Absolutely. 
And then when you try and speak 

1190
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,720
of these things to people, I 
know a lot of times it comes up,

1191
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,200
well, why would they? 
Why would they choose you or why

1192
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,080
would they do that to you at 
such a young age? 

1193
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,600
Why would they do this? 
Why would they do that? 

1194
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,320
And I'm with you. 
You. 

1195
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,760
I think it goes back to the 
bloodline. 

1196
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,200
It goes back to not necessarily 
anything you did. 

1197
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,800
Maybe not your grandparents. 
Maybe knowing you ever knew. 

1198
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,000
You know there's so many 
secrets. 

1199
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,280
I. 
Had a lot of Masons in my 

1200
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,000
family, high level Masons, so 
someone made an agreement. 

1201
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,320
But I also think that yeah, the 
other members of my family were 

1202
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,240
being taken to and I was 
inducted into Rainbow Girls. 

1203
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,320
My mom was in Eastern Star, My 
father De Malay, my grandfather 

1204
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,200
was a high level Mason, you 
know, so there is a lot of high 

1205
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,480
strangeness already. 
There could have been multiple 

1206
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,880
agreements made for me. 
I'm sure they profited from the 

1207
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,400
fact that I was something they 
wanted, you know? 

1208
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,920
And do they, And do they even 
know sometimes, like with 

1209
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,880
Mormonism? 
I I was a Mason. 

1210
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,520
I didn't know I was a Mason 
'cause I was a Mormon and I 

1211
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,240
thought I was going to heaven, 
you know and and so and they 

1212
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,320
used to have some stories that 
are kind of interesting like 

1213
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,720
having our own planet and going 
to Kolab and all of these things

1214
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,240
that we can be Co creators with 
God. 

1215
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,760
Sound familiar? 
Yeah, like the pre existence 

1216
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,120
we're going to go and create all
these spirit babies and have sex

1217
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,880
for eternity. 
None of this is biblical. 

1218
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,240
So where did he get it from? 
Right. 

1219
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,240
That's. 
Not that's not Bible. 

1220
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,200
It's all a counterfeit religion.
And what does Satan do? 

1221
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:01,000
He counterfeits God's Kingdom. 
So you know anytime someone you 

1222
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,080
know brings something like that 
up, you know Ken, can God come 

1223
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,640
and bring new revelations to 
people? 

1224
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,480
Yes he does all the time. 
He does it all the time in 

1225
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,880
modern day. 
But it doesn't stick out like a 

1226
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,000
sore thumb. 
It it hits people's hearts And 

1227
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,960
you know, because we're blessed 
with discernment and the Holy 

1228
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,200
Spirit leaps for joy in you when
you when you feel and you hear 

1229
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,240
that but these and. 
Many people are deceived. 

1230
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,640
Great deception. 
The great deception is people 

1231
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,520
always talk about the great 
deception. 

1232
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,320
The great deception is happening
daily. 

1233
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,080
The great deception is happening
constantly. 

1234
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,440
Will there be another one? 
I'm certain there will be 

1235
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,800
something far more nefarious. 
Coming. 

1236
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,280
I think since the Garden of 
Eden, it has been one deception 

1237
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,840
after another and that will 
continue. 

1238
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,640
And that's why we have to be on 
guard. 

1239
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,080
And the and the word tells us 
all through it. 

1240
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,440
To always be on guard, to always
be at the gate, to always be 

1241
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,640
watching, to always be prepared,
you know, not just for the 

1242
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,400
deceptions coming, but for his 
return too, you know, we get the

1243
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,360
good in there too. 
So that's, you know, and that's 

1244
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,240
good. 
And I hate to cut this short 

1245
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:08,360
today, but I can feel the shot 
is in my voice and I know and 

1246
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,400
it's making me my mouth water 
and my voice is starting to I 

1247
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,520
don't know what's going on but I
don't want to go too short. 

1248
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,360
So I I just want to give you a 
little heads up that I might. 

1249
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,880
Have a little heads up. 
I hate this. 

1250
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Yeah. 
Well, is there anything? 

1251
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:22,960
You like? 
What is the? 

1252
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,480
Most important? 
Sure. 

1253
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,440
The most important thing for you
that you want to get out about 

1254
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,480
what happened to you. 
I know the most important thing 

1255
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,200
is to spread about Jesus Christ,
and he's our Savior. 

1256
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,320
We can call on him. 
He will intervene for us. 

1257
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,400
I believe that. 
I know you believe this. 

1258
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Things don't just go away. 
So this is a daily armor of God.

1259
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,280
That's why that scripture is in 
there, right? 

1260
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,920
So. 
But the things that occurred to 

1261
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,360
you to help others, that might 
be not where you're at, that 

1262
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,080
this is maybe happening to them.
You know what? 

1263
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,280
What should I do? 
No, I love that you asked that. 

1264
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,720
Yeah because the IT is like you 
said the most important thing is

1265
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,520
that is Jesus. 
You know in the everything, but 

1266
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,120
you know that that this 
phenomenon in this CFO 

1267
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,400
phenomenon, it's extremely 
deceptive. 

1268
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,320
And as more and more of this is 
rolling out and more and more 

1269
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,480
people are becoming aware this 
deception. 

1270
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,600
I mean, people may not be aware 
of how incredibly deep this is 

1271
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,000
already going, but you look at 
these TV programs that talk 

1272
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,760
about our Ancestral Cedars and 
these, you know, certain types 

1273
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,480
of alien, you know, old alien 
theorists believe this and that.

1274
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:42,400
I'm not going to say them, but 
they are creating this sort of 

1275
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:48,680
alien religion already where 
they're talking about the 

1276
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,960
comedians and all these 
different kinds of beings 

1277
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,440
coming. 
And now they're separating them 

1278
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,560
into there's these guys are the 
good guys and these guys are the

1279
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,760
bad guys. 
These guys are coming to help 

1280
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,520
and people are joining into this
in droves. 

1281
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,720
It is a deception. 
People don't believe it, Do not 

1282
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,520
buy into what they are selling. 
It is a huge deception. 

1283
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,480
Ask anyone who's been taken by 
these entities their whole life 

1284
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,120
like I have in there, a lot of 
us out there, and that's why I'm

1285
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,280
doing this. 
It's not a popular place to be. 

1286
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,520
Sharing this information is not 
something that people come 

1287
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,800
forward and do every day for 
good reason. 

1288
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,200
It's not. 
It's not necessarily always well

1289
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,920
received. 
But what you have to remember is

1290
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,200
there is so much deception going
on out there. 

1291
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,680
Don't buy into it. 
Do not buy into the deception. 

1292
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,800
These are not our benevolent 
space brothers. 

1293
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,240
They are not here to help us. 
They are deceptive. 

1294
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,240
They are here to hurt. 
They're here to steal, kill and 

1295
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,080
destroy. 
And we have to remain vigilant 

1296
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,240
to stay in prayer, put on the 
full armor of God every day. 

1297
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,040
Remain vigilant. 
Listen to beautiful people like 

1298
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,720
Miss Heidi love. 
Here she is. 

1299
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,000
I'm so blessed and anointed, you
know, and and find people that 

1300
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,440
you can trust, that you can 
follow, that you can listen to. 

1301
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,320
That's really the biggest, the 
biggest message. 

1302
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Just don't be deceived. 
They're very deceptive. 

1303
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,240
I agree. 
I agree 100% and I would love to

1304
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,479
do this again and talk to any of
the people that you were 

1305
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,600
mentioning and we can even go 
more into your story, but I 

1306
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,040
didn't want to focus there like 
it is important what happened. 

1307
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,960
I talked about it with many 
people. 

1308
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,760
The left. 
Yeah. 

1309
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,359
The what? 
You're what? 

1310
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:34,920
Where you evolved. 
Like we've evolved. 

1311
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:40,040
I know I have, I know you have. 
I know that God's work and glory

1312
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,000
is what the most important thing
is. 

1313
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,240
And I mean we both have some 
really weird stories, but but 

1314
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,920
that is only the 1st part. 
Like that's just to make it 

1315
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,760
relatable in case other people 
you know have. 

1316
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,479
Been there. 
So I. 

1317
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,240
Appreciate you. 
Yes. 

1318
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,920
And you're strong. 
You're strong and brave to come 

1319
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,319
out. 
Because this is not. 

1320
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,479
I've heard some of the questions
thrown at you and you don't back

1321
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,840
down. 
It's also not comfortable. 

1322
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,479
And I didn't want to come from 
that. 

1323
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,080
People can sort that out. 
Yeah, I want to be a little. 

1324
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Different there's yeah there are
some that you know there are a 

1325
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,600
lot of people who interview me 
just so they can throw these 

1326
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,520
uncomfortable questions at me 
and and they they find that 

1327
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,120
thrilling and exciting and 
exhilarating and and you know I 

1328
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:33,120
I I'm not here to I'm just here 
to share the truth and wherever 

1329
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,840
I can and people like you make 
it so much easier and so much 

1330
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,040
more fun to have conversations 
with people like and this. 

1331
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,479
Isn't a sideshow, right? 
Yeah, this isn't some sideshow 

1332
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,359
story. 
This is about the the lesson is 

1333
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,680
what you're wanting out or you 
wouldn't have put that out 

1334
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,720
there. 
Nobody talks about these 

1335
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,120
horrible things that happened to
me or happened to you or 

1336
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,720
whatever happened. 
I mean for just for fun, like 

1337
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,960
you want to live in someone 
else's pain. 

1338
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,720
And I have had people say to me,
oh, I love talking to you 

1339
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,680
because your life is so wild 
that I feel normal. 

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And I'm like, you know, that's 
not OK Yeah, that's. 

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Not what we're looking for here.
No, no. 

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But you are a strong woman too. 
And what you have overcome is 

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absolutely amazing, Heidi. 
And it's a blessing that we've 

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met and that we finally got this
going and we know we're going to

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do it again. 
So thank you very much for 

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having me. 
And I look forward to next time.