1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the 643 Conspiracy 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,840 podcast. I'm your boy Hank holding it 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,800 down. We got send our best wishes to 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Drew, my Co host. He's got a a sick child again. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,760 Had to take her to the hospital yesterday so he's unable to be 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,160 with us. Thoughts and prayers to you 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,220 brother. You know we love you, but at 8 00:00:24,220 --> 00:00:28,260 this point, I guess we could call you a a a temporary Co, 9 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:31,420 temporary permanent Co host. We've got my boy, Chef Kyle in 10 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:33,420 the house. What's going on, brother? 11 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:36,220 Oh, not a whole lot, man. Happy to be here. 12 00:00:36,220 --> 00:00:38,700 Happy Sunday. We are gathering. 13 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:40,940 We are gathering on the Lord's Day of Rest. 14 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:45,260 So you know, beautiful thing. And ladies and gentlemen, we've 15 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:48,980 got the amazing Heidi Love from the Unfiltered Rise podcast 16 00:00:48,980 --> 00:00:51,140 joining us today. Miss Heidi, how are you doing? 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,360 Good. How y'all doing today? 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,560 You guys doing good. Everybody's happy. 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Well, except you sound like you got a cold. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Kyle, you got a cold? I'm a little stuffed up, yeah. 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Oh, is that why you're drinking the magic potion? 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,680 Did you get it? Did you get it from Joseph 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Smith? And we woke up yesterday morning 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,280 and it was 43 degrees outside. Oh, is that like not normal for 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,070 you guys at all, considering two weeks ago it was 100. 26 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:25,990 It's it's just been a drastic shift real quick and my sinuses 27 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:29,830 have been just full chaos mode for the last two or three days. 28 00:01:30,110 --> 00:01:32,670 And it happens anytime the the weather flies. 29 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:38,590 But they're spraying us. Yeah, I smoke a pack of 30 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:40,910 cigarettes a day, so that. Definitely doesn't make that 31 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:42,750 too. OK, all right. 32 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:46,470 I mean, I acknowledge I do it to myself, but. 33 00:01:47,540 --> 00:01:50,780 Yeah, no, but they're saying, OK, so I got on, I jumped on 34 00:01:50,780 --> 00:01:53,580 this morning and people are talking about the moon phases 35 00:01:53,580 --> 00:01:54,900 not being quite right this month. 36 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:58,540 Did you see that? That like a piece of the moon. 37 00:01:58,580 --> 00:02:02,420 And people were like all off on their girl problems and 38 00:02:02,420 --> 00:02:04,700 everything. And I was like this Mandela 39 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:07,020 Effect, my daughter that this happened. 40 00:02:07,420 --> 00:02:10,259 Like I don't have that happen. So I have to go to other people 41 00:02:10,259 --> 00:02:11,800 because. I'm lucky. 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,920 I'm. I'm done. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,600 Six kids is enough. Kids. 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,960 Like, come on. Yeah. 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,280 So, but yeah, she said that happened to her too. 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 And I was like, Oh my gosh, is this actually real? 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,640 What? So maybe we were Mandela again? 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,920 I don't know. I don't pay attention to like 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,280 what what the forecast for the moon phases are. 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,160 But I look at it every night when I take my dogs out, and 51 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:46,780 maybe I just don't know how this whole whole existence thing 52 00:02:46,780 --> 00:02:49,820 works. But the moon, the moon makes no 53 00:02:49,820 --> 00:02:52,420 sense. Like from a night, you know, 54 00:02:52,420 --> 00:02:56,140 'cause you can, you can track the progression of the sun day 55 00:02:56,140 --> 00:02:57,820 from day. It's going to be a little bit 56 00:02:57,820 --> 00:02:59,820 farther, a little bit farther, a little bit farther. 57 00:02:59,820 --> 00:03:03,500 But the moon does not play by the same rules, because one 58 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:06,870 night it'll be here and it'll be really big, and then the next 59 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:10,670 night it's going to be like 40 degrees away and really far 60 00:03:10,670 --> 00:03:12,310 away. But then the next night it's it, 61 00:03:12,310 --> 00:03:16,950 it just doesn't play by any. It don't play fair is it is 62 00:03:16,990 --> 00:03:20,670 like, I don't I don't understand, but it there's some 63 00:03:20,670 --> 00:03:22,510 crazy stuff going on with the moon. 64 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:25,470 It sucks energy. Like if you measure like 65 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:30,790 different degrees of how it it, it actually sucks energy. 66 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:33,310 It doesn't give, It's like opposite. 67 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:36,530 As the bubbles so blow, the sun gives energy, the moon takes it. 68 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:40,250 So I I always, I always think it's kind of weird, 'cause there 69 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:41,850 is, and we're going to get into Mormonism. 70 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:45,050 But it there is a little weird thing that happened with Joseph 71 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:48,170 Smith later. They were talking about how 72 00:03:48,170 --> 00:03:52,490 there were Quakers on the moon. Like, people Quakers. 73 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,980 And I'm just picturing the dude from the oatmeal up there. 74 00:03:57,980 --> 00:04:01,020 And his wife or something. I I would assume 7 wives or 75 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:03,300 something like that. I'm like, OK, seven Quake 76 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:05,900 Arettes and a dude. I don't know. 77 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:08,460 I'm like, it was so weird. It was such a blip. 78 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:09,820 And of course the church came out later. 79 00:04:09,820 --> 00:04:12,500 Oh no, no, no, that didn't. There's so many things like 80 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:13,860 that. But never happened. 81 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:19,140 Don't go look it up. Yeah, it didn't happen, right? 82 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:22,650 Yeah, that and getting our own planet and all those things. 83 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:25,810 If you go look it up now, they're like, who would say 84 00:04:25,810 --> 00:04:27,210 that? That's stupid. 85 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:30,050 I'm like, well, you guys said that because I'm old and I 86 00:04:30,050 --> 00:04:34,570 remember. So I'm like, I remember learning 87 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:38,250 this when I was a kid, you know? But yeah, they try to play it 88 00:04:38,250 --> 00:04:40,850 off like they do the whole superstar thing, like don't talk 89 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:43,450 about it, just deny, deny and walk away. 90 00:04:45,050 --> 00:04:48,210 So I'm pretty sure you said it because I've heard you on 91 00:04:48,210 --> 00:04:50,690 several shows. Are you from Utah? 92 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:52,610 I am. I live in Utah. 93 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:56,970 OK, so. In the last couple of years, 94 00:04:56,970 --> 00:05:04,490 Arkansas and BYU have had a football series going on and one 95 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:07,530 one thing my boss has always asked me is how many black 96 00:05:07,530 --> 00:05:11,690 Mormons have I ever? And you know why, right? 97 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:14,900 And I'm like well boss, very few. 98 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:18,420 And if by very few you mean zero, then there would you know 99 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:22,020 and I I because I've known there's Mormon church about 30 100 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:25,980 minutes away from here. My mom was really good friends 101 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:28,700 with a Mormon couple and they were great folks and you know 102 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:34,300 I've met several of the Mormon I I guess you call them preachers. 103 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:37,020 The guys that door, the door knockers, you know? 104 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:39,340 The missionaries. Yeah, the missionaries. 105 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:46,740 One thing I've always wondered is do you know if BYU as a as a 106 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:50,660 college makes exemptions for their athletes that come to play 107 00:05:50,660 --> 00:05:55,060 sports there, like or do do the athletes that come to BYU have 108 00:05:55,060 --> 00:05:57,580 to practice the Mormon faith while they're there? 109 00:05:58,580 --> 00:06:00,660 That is a good question. I know because I want to say 110 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:05,220 their head coach is is Hawaiian of an of yeah but or he's some 111 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:08,420 he he he's not he's not a Mormon. 112 00:06:08,420 --> 00:06:09,980 He's not a black guy. And so I'm. 113 00:06:10,020 --> 00:06:13,140 Just wondering, yeah, they have a, they make an exception. 114 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:17,580 They have a big following with Hawaiians and Samoans, any 115 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:21,260 island, Pacific people. They really have reached out to 116 00:06:21,260 --> 00:06:23,300 and done a lot of charity. Yeah, they are. 117 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:25,140 And. And the reason why you don't see 118 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:27,580 very many black people? Because they're smart. 119 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Let me explain, because they weren't allowed into our church 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,040 until I believe it was 1958 when they changed that. 121 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,840 Don't quote me on the exact date, but it was right after all 122 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:42,760 the segregation was ending that they were even allowed to hold 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,600 the priesthood. Because this is the story that I 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,880 was told as a child versus the story that they come out with. 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Now. I and and I'll give this 126 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,240 disclaimer, like you said, there are very many Mormon people. 127 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:58,260 That are wonderful people. Just like there's some 128 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:01,420 government officials that are like maybe your local mayor 129 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:04,020 that's a nice guy or a sheriff that's a nice guy. 130 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:06,260 Does that mean I trust the government? 131 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:10,380 No. Should you trust a big, big 132 00:07:10,380 --> 00:07:13,540 church that's one of the wealthiest in all of the world? 133 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:16,660 Probably not. So when it gets to the top level 134 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:18,980 that it's a lot different. But these other people that are 135 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:22,620 just the kids knocking on your door, they're 19 to 21. 136 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:26,630 They go home after they're 21. And their kids, you know, 137 00:07:26,630 --> 00:07:28,950 they're just out there doing what they think the Lord has 138 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:30,910 called them to do. And they know they probably 139 00:07:30,910 --> 00:07:33,270 don't know any of the stuff that we're going to talk about 140 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:37,950 because even me, as a Mormon for 34 years brought up in it 141 00:07:37,950 --> 00:07:40,390 everything. I didn't know most of this stuff 142 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:43,110 until I got out. You have to really research. 143 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:47,350 But also so the story goes, is that when there was the war in 144 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:51,310 heaven and it was between God and Lucifer and the angels were 145 00:07:51,310 --> 00:07:54,310 cast out. The ones that followed Lucifer 146 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:57,390 were cast down with him, and then the ones that followed God 147 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:59,510 went with God. But there were some that didn't 148 00:07:59,510 --> 00:08:02,030 decide and they were called the fence sitters. 149 00:08:02,110 --> 00:08:04,790 And if you look it up like Mormon Fence Sitter, I'm pretty 150 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:06,230 sure you'll find some information. 151 00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:11,310 So the fence sitters were were cursed because they didn't pick 152 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:14,230 a side and they turned them shades of brown and black 153 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:17,230 because of their curse. Then there's also the curse of 154 00:08:17,230 --> 00:08:19,750 Cain. Which they also endorse and 155 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,670 believe. And the church was extremely 156 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:25,390 racist and did not allow them to hold the priesthood because they 157 00:08:25,390 --> 00:08:29,230 were those things either cursed or fence sitters in their 158 00:08:29,230 --> 00:08:33,990 lineage for a long time until like segregation ended until the 159 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:37,630 50s. And so they also pushed not 160 00:08:37,630 --> 00:08:40,230 marrying interracially. Which really? 161 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:44,620 That wasn't a reason why I left, but it always bothered me 162 00:08:44,620 --> 00:08:48,260 because my brother married my mom married 1/2 Latin, half 163 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:50,860 native. My brother married a black gal 164 00:08:50,860 --> 00:08:54,500 that was from Chicago back East. So our family and my sister 165 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,340 married actually a Hawaiian. He's half high Hawaiian, half 166 00:08:57,340 --> 00:08:59,700 Chinese and they're not together anymore, but they had all their 167 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:03,510 kids together and. So, and he was a coach and I'll 168 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:06,870 tell you it, it happens a lot with the Polynesian community. 169 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:09,550 They focus highly on the Polynesian community because 170 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:13,070 they're so family oriented. Their big trick is when they 171 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:16,550 come knocking on your door is that hopefully and that it's not 172 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:19,110 the kids that have the trick, although they do give them. 173 00:09:19,550 --> 00:09:23,310 One of my neighbors went on a mission and he had to come home 174 00:09:23,310 --> 00:09:28,150 because of the lovely 2020. And so he told me some things 175 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,790 he's like you know they have all these forums, they have this 176 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:34,870 like different apps to like respond to things like that. 177 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:36,950 It's like a salesman type pitch thing. 178 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:40,230 If you get this question go say this, if you do this go it's all 179 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:43,070 it's all pre programmed. They're they're programmed, they 180 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:46,750 go to a mission training center before they go out in the field 181 00:09:46,910 --> 00:09:50,190 to learn all this stuff. So they're there for quite a 182 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:53,350 while and and they're on their missions for almost 2 years, so. 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Long story short, they're hoping when they knock that you have 184 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,040 some dead relative, dead child, or are really family focused and 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 they'll say don't you want to be with your family forever? 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Like for time and all eternity. That's their their thing, time 187 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 and all eternity. Well when we marry people, we 188 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,440 marry them for time and all eternity, even though that's 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,320 completely non biblical cause what does Jesus say? 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,320 What does the Bible say? That there's no male or female 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,000 in heaven. There's no marriage in heaven 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,190 because. When Jesus answered that 193 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:27,590 question to the man who said which one of the husbands will 194 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:31,510 be this wife because she had all these husbands die, he said it 195 00:10:31,510 --> 00:10:34,630 won't be that way in heaven. That's why it's always said till 196 00:10:34,630 --> 00:10:38,070 death do you part. So we're not we don't even, I 197 00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:42,470 don't think we'll even have like a sex when we when we're gone 198 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:47,110 and we we don't have a body. So I mean, the Mormons kind of 199 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:50,350 use that and prey upon people that really like. 200 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:53,450 Are family oriented. So that's why they have a huge, 201 00:10:53,530 --> 00:10:57,050 huge thing in the Hawaiians, Polynesians, all that. 202 00:10:57,050 --> 00:11:00,970 They're very family oriented. So I think that's why they sneak 203 00:11:00,970 --> 00:11:03,090 into that. But black people, they're not so 204 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:05,010 easy to. They're more SUS. 205 00:11:05,010 --> 00:11:07,570 They're like what? Like they start looking up a 206 00:11:07,570 --> 00:11:09,890 couple things and they're like, I'm not going to that church 207 00:11:10,010 --> 00:11:14,770 because you guys are crazy. In 1958 you didn't, you just 208 00:11:14,770 --> 00:11:17,690 barely let us in. I'm sure there's I would have 209 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:20,280 feelings. I would have definite feelings 210 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,000 about that. So that's my, my Long story 211 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,680 short on that. But yeah, I mean that's that's 212 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:33,040 life, you know that. Yeah, that's, I mean back when, 213 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,080 you know, back it. It was probably close to 15 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,240 years ago, I guess the the couple my mom was friends with, 215 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,680 they had a son that was around my little brother's age and they 216 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:49,700 were really great friends. And that guess they were doing, 217 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:53,420 they were doing something at the church building. 218 00:11:54,020 --> 00:11:56,100 And I can't remember what it was, but like the whole 219 00:11:56,100 --> 00:12:00,820 congregation was gathering and Laura and her husband brought me 220 00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:05,060 and my brothers. And you would never think that 221 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:08,820 by walking in their church building for and looking at, you 222 00:12:08,820 --> 00:12:11,780 know, these photos that you sent me, that there would be any kind 223 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:15,780 of connection. No, because here's the I mean, 224 00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:23,090 I'm never bought into, never bought into, even because I've 225 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:24,610 glanced through the Book of Mormon. 226 00:12:24,890 --> 00:12:27,730 But to me, it's I can't. I can't. 227 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:31,970 I can't take anything covered, one letter cover to cover. 228 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:38,250 I can't give it credibility because I know that this man is 229 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:40,530 saying he received this from an Angel. 230 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:43,470 Yes, and I think he definitely did. 231 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:47,510 Even if you want to argue that the Bible was pinned by man, at 232 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:50,950 least the the men that pinned the Bible give credit straight 233 00:12:50,950 --> 00:12:54,190 to God himself, not some intermediary. 234 00:12:54,950 --> 00:12:55,670 Right. Yep. 235 00:12:55,870 --> 00:13:00,110 And I think people, real quick people, fail to realize that the 236 00:13:00,110 --> 00:13:03,550 men that pinned the Bible didn't pull these ideas out of thin air 237 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:05,270 and put them down of their own volition. 238 00:13:05,270 --> 00:13:07,150 It was almost like automatic writing. 239 00:13:08,170 --> 00:13:11,530 Not every part of the Bible, because they also put their own 240 00:13:11,530 --> 00:13:17,770 two cents into it, but it was all of it was like given to them 241 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:22,050 through the Holy Spirit by God. Like like it wasn't their own 242 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:24,450 ideas. These men didn't just pull this 243 00:13:24,450 --> 00:13:27,210 out of their own ass and put it on paper. 244 00:13:27,370 --> 00:13:30,010 Excuse my language. No, you don't have to. 245 00:13:30,050 --> 00:13:32,810 I thought it was funny. I'm. 246 00:13:32,810 --> 00:13:36,530 I'm the thing that my husband always really focuses on with 247 00:13:36,530 --> 00:13:39,750 the church is. Is like if you go look for 248 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:42,790 archaeological evidence of the Bible, you will find it. 249 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:46,950 You will find at Sea Scrolls, you will find old things that 250 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:50,750 came from there in biblical times that match up the places 251 00:13:50,750 --> 00:13:52,430 exist, all the things go with it. 252 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:54,790 So if you go try and do that with the Book of Mormon, you'll 253 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:56,670 find nothing except for Joseph Smith. 254 00:13:57,510 --> 00:14:00,430 There's they. He talked about having this big 255 00:14:00,430 --> 00:14:03,110 war in the in the Book of Mormon on the hill. 256 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:05,910 Kimora. Where he lived basically really 257 00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:08,390 close by him that the church now owns. 258 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:11,990 Now, if they wanted to prove this, there would be thousands 259 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:15,310 of bodies buried in this hill from battle, just like we can go 260 00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:16,830 to Gettysburg, right? You can. 261 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:18,670 I've been there. You can go there. 262 00:14:18,670 --> 00:14:21,230 You can see that there was a battle that was fought there. 263 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:24,550 You can't do that on this hill because it doesn't exist. 264 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:27,790 And if they wanted to prove it, I would be digging it up and 265 00:14:27,790 --> 00:14:31,310 saying, yeah, let's find all the dead people that were in this 266 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:34,250 war that he said that happened. And prove it. 267 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:37,290 But they can't. And so instead what they did is 268 00:14:37,290 --> 00:14:40,290 they planted a whole bunch of trees and have now said that 269 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:43,130 they will not excavate it because, you know, we got to 270 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:46,330 save the trees, so how convenient. 271 00:14:46,890 --> 00:14:49,810 They'll never, they'll never do anything to prove it because we 272 00:14:49,810 --> 00:14:53,330 all know it's unprovable. And I and with the automatic 273 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:57,730 writing thing, like the stuff that was given for the Bible was 274 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:00,130 on scrolls that was put together. 275 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:02,820 It wasn't even, It wasn't even automatic. 276 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:07,580 Like the people that wrote each book, they had a Dead Sea scroll 277 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:10,660 for that scroll. And then that is backed up by 278 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:13,140 the Bible and it matches really well. 279 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,780 Like there's none of because Joseph Smith did automatic 280 00:15:16,780 --> 00:15:19,860 writing for the Book of Mormon. And I believe that he absolutely 281 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:22,620 did. And I don't believe it was from 282 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:25,460 an Angel, from God. Angels are deceptive and were 283 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:28,900 warned in the Bible that you you have to be careful, you know, 284 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:32,290 because we never know. And how many times has a fallen 285 00:15:32,290 --> 00:15:35,330 Angel come to someone like I can name a few. 286 00:15:35,530 --> 00:15:38,090 And I would love. I'm going to find me a John D 287 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:40,250 expert someday. And we're going to go down this 288 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:42,210 road because John D saw an Angel. 289 00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:44,210 And what came of it? The Enochian alphabet. 290 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:47,250 And what came of that? Multiple religions, right in the 291 00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:50,730 occult. So let's go to Aleister Crowley. 292 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:53,130 He saw an Angel. It wasn't a wasp. 293 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:54,890 It wasn't. An Angel. 294 00:15:54,890 --> 00:15:57,050 To him, it appeared as an alien. Why? 295 00:15:57,050 --> 00:15:59,650 Because he was dark and he would receive that type of thing. 296 00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:03,410 Because what do angels say? If you see an Angel, what do 297 00:16:03,410 --> 00:16:04,930 they say the first thing out of their mouth? 298 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:07,650 Do not be afraid. So they're gonna appear to you 299 00:16:07,690 --> 00:16:09,890 however you're willing to. Like, okay. 300 00:16:09,890 --> 00:16:13,330 I can handle this, you know, like this is okay for my brain. 301 00:16:13,860 --> 00:16:16,300 So they can appear any way they want. 302 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:19,420 That's all over the Bible that the Nephilim can take any shape, 303 00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:22,940 any human shape beast, whatever. They can do that. 304 00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:26,740 And it's known. So I mean he what did he do? 305 00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:31,300 What was awas told Crowley to do what write a book and he did and 306 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,260 it became a religion and it's called the Lima and he wrote the 307 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:37,260 book of the law. So and he wrote many others on 308 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:39,900 top of that. Then we got Jack Parsons and we 309 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:41,940 go out and playing in the desert with. 310 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:45,150 The Scientology guy. And they're out there and what 311 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:47,070 happens? The angels tell him to write a 312 00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:48,590 book. So they write a book and they 313 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:50,830 start a religion and it's Scientology. 314 00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:54,150 And what happened with Joseph Smith, He saw angels and what 315 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:56,310 happened? He wrote a book and he started a 316 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:59,150 religion. I'm sorry, there's too many 317 00:16:59,150 --> 00:17:01,550 coincidences. That's a lot. 318 00:17:02,350 --> 00:17:04,790 Well, you got to remember also what the what the Book of 319 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:09,349 Revelation said about the the fallen angels and and Lucifer. 320 00:17:09,349 --> 00:17:12,500 He said that they're going to appear as ministers of 321 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:14,180 righteousness and angels of light. 322 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:17,460 They're not going to come up as some scary red dude with horns 323 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:21,060 and a pitchfork and big bad uglies that crawl with broken 324 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:22,540 bodies. They're not going to do that. 325 00:17:22,859 --> 00:17:25,140 They're going to try to come to you with something they know 326 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:28,460 you'll accept. Except Crowley, yeah, because he 327 00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:31,220 was dark. But he knew what Crowley would 328 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:34,020 accept, and he would. He wouldn't have accepted 329 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:35,900 something beautiful and of the light. 330 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:38,140 He would. He needed it to be something 331 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:40,060 dark and obscured. Yep. 332 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:43,790 So they obliged. What's your question, Kyle? 333 00:17:46,790 --> 00:17:52,910 So when you left the the Mormon church, did you go straight to 334 00:17:52,910 --> 00:17:55,990 Christianity or did you take like a little bit of a break and 335 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:59,150 then kind of look into whether religions, how did that, how did 336 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:02,830 that play out? I think what happened for me was 337 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:08,190 I always knew Jesus was real. I always had the deep rooted 338 00:18:08,190 --> 00:18:10,970 feeling because. I had that really. 339 00:18:10,970 --> 00:18:15,570 I had a really hard childhood. I was really like abused in 340 00:18:15,570 --> 00:18:19,730 every sort of way. And my family was so messed up 341 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:22,090 that I called to God from a very young age. 342 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:25,010 Like, I knew that God was real. I just didn't know what to do 343 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:27,570 with this whole church thing. But your whole family's in it. 344 00:18:27,570 --> 00:18:30,970 So then my mom got out and she became a Stevens minister for 345 00:18:30,970 --> 00:18:33,370 Christian, non denominational church. 346 00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:37,220 So it was easier for me. To go to her, and then my 347 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:39,420 husband as well, he was already saved. 348 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:43,780 And so they both had this good, you know, foundation, biblical 349 00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:46,260 foundation of Christianity, because they don't teach you the 350 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:48,340 Bible. Well, they might now, but back 351 00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:51,730 when I grew up, it was. Solely focused on Joseph Smith 352 00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:54,570 and the Book of Mormon, the Bible was kind of like, yeah, 353 00:18:54,570 --> 00:18:57,650 it's there, it might not be correct because they might have 354 00:18:57,650 --> 00:18:59,690 translated it wrong and that's it. 355 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:02,530 That's all they say. So you don't really focus your 356 00:19:02,530 --> 00:19:05,450 time and study on that. So luckily I had people 357 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:09,890 surrounding me that were like, hey, look at this, look at that. 358 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:11,450 Don't lose hope, don't lose faith. 359 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:15,010 Because I would say 90% of people that leave become 360 00:19:15,010 --> 00:19:18,230 atheist. I mean or Gnostic or Gnostic. 361 00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:22,030 And and it's sad to me because they don't have the foundation 362 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:24,310 in Christ because it's not there. 363 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:27,550 We're not taught that. The only reason I had it is 364 00:19:27,550 --> 00:19:31,150 because I had a crap life and I ended up a word of the courts by 365 00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:34,310 the time I was 12. So I was constantly calling on 366 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:36,050 God like. Please help me. 367 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:39,970 You know, I mean, so when you go through struggle, you grow, you 368 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:43,130 know, and and back then God to me was just God. 369 00:19:43,130 --> 00:19:47,050 And I didn't know a difference, you know, between Mormon God and 370 00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,890 God. But Mormon God is not. 371 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:51,530 They don't even believe in the Trinity. 372 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:55,210 They believe that the Holy Ghost and Jesus Christ and God are 373 00:19:55,210 --> 00:19:58,370 three separate people and that they're completely separate 374 00:19:58,370 --> 00:20:01,530 entities and have nothing to do. And they actually believe that 375 00:20:01,530 --> 00:20:04,530 God had sex with Mary, Like, literal. 376 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Not like a divine, none of that. They believe that it was like a 377 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,000 sexual thing and that he was part man just like any other 378 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,920 man. That that's what they think. 379 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:21,360 So have you ever seen the the series that came out a while 380 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:24,440 back called Hell on Wheels? Not Hell on Wheels. 381 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,400 Oh, that's a different one. I thought you were going to stay 382 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 under the banner of heaven. No, I've never seen that one, 383 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,520 but Hell on Wheels is probably one of my favorite series of all 384 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,230 time. It's a story of right after the 385 00:20:36,550 --> 00:20:39,950 Civil War. It's a story surrounding the the 386 00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:42,030 building of the transcontinental railroad. 387 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:47,110 And there's a section of the of the show where they're ending up 388 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:50,190 going through Utah and they're having to deal with the Mormons 389 00:20:50,190 --> 00:20:52,950 a lot. And Brigham Young is alive at 390 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:57,270 this time. And I was really hoping you had 391 00:20:57,270 --> 00:21:00,350 seen it, because I was wondering, you know, if you were 392 00:21:00,350 --> 00:21:04,240 knowledged in. You know, middle 1800s 393 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Mormonism, you know that it was that portrayal of it because 394 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:16,680 they were they're they're portrayed in the show as they 395 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,800 mentioned God, but they put all their stock and faith into a man 396 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 who was the IT was almost like the American version of 397 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,030 Catholicism. The way it was portrayed they 398 00:21:28,030 --> 00:21:32,830 had an intermediary you know Brigham Young was the the the 399 00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:37,430 what he what the line of the Lord and and he he he alone 400 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:43,390 interpreted God's will and and all that and very Polk like ish 401 00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:46,670 and it's it's more than it's actually worse than the 402 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:51,110 Catholics because the Catholics don't believe in any direct 403 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:53,790 revelation any further. They're done with it. 404 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:58,500 They study and they do get led by the Pope but we believe and I 405 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,980 say we because I'm talking about Mormons I'm out I don't want to 406 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:03,860 even go there but I still say it. 407 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:09,020 So anyways, Mormons believe that whoever is the president of the 408 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:12,540 church at that time, so then it was Brigham, but before that it 409 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:14,940 was Joseph. And like right now we have one 410 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:18,870 right now. And so they believe that that is 411 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:23,470 a literal prophet, a living prophet who can actually talk to 412 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:27,110 God and receives direct revelation from God. 413 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:31,230 So that whole thing about the, the race card that I was telling 414 00:22:31,230 --> 00:22:35,350 you that they changed later, that was because God told them 415 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:37,990 to change it. Not because of politics, not 416 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:42,390 because it fit good, not because it made sense, but because God 417 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:44,990 somehow, all of a sudden in that perfect timing. 418 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:47,030 And that's what they'll say, Well, it was perfect timing. 419 00:22:47,470 --> 00:22:50,550 But here's the fun part of it. Brigham Young was kind of a 420 00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:52,990 monster. And everybody knew like he had, 421 00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:55,950 he had tons of wives, he was super racist. 422 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:59,310 There's tons of comments about him saying, like if you were to 423 00:22:59,310 --> 00:23:02,470 find your wife in bed with a black man, it's better for you 424 00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:06,070 to spear them both through than to let them live like he was 425 00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:08,990 horrible, like. And so when all that stuff 426 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:12,310 started coming out, the church will turn it and they'll say, 427 00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:15,390 but he was just a man, wait a minute, I thought he was 428 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:20,840 divinely a prophet of God doing the work of God. 429 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,080 And what does it say in the Bible about prophets? 430 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,840 If they're wrong? Once, that's it. 431 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,160 You throw everything out that they say, right, It's in the 432 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Bible. But the Mormon church doesn't do 433 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,720 that. They turn it around and they 434 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,640 say, well, of course it was the times. 435 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,480 Well, of course he's just a man. Well, of course, blah, blah, 436 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840 blah. He had so many wives because all 437 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,240 the men died in the war and and all these wars coming up with 438 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,880 you know I'm. Glad you mentioned that. 439 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,040 Because that was another aspect that in Hell on Wheels was, I'm 440 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720 going to watch this. I really hope you do, if not 441 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,960 just for the involvement of the Mormons, because our your, your 442 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,560 main character actually gets deeply intertwined with the 443 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:11,360 Mormons, but they are very standoffish and. 444 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:15,470 Oppositional to the federal government at the time. 445 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:17,750 Well, they were in general because. 446 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:21,270 And I know that there was a big war, pretty much a war between 447 00:24:21,270 --> 00:24:25,470 the American government and the Mormons because of polygamy, 448 00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:29,110 because polygamy. They would not let them become a 449 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:31,230 state. And so they tried to become 450 00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:34,630 their own state, and they called it the state of Deseret. 451 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:37,910 And then when that was happening, they wouldn't give 452 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:40,590 them full statehood, which is why their name got changed to 453 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:45,310 Utah later. But that was all because of the 454 00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:47,990 abstinent against, you know, polygamy. 455 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:49,990 And they, they weren't going to let it go. 456 00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:55,470 And so as long as and now they say, OK, unless you're FLDS. 457 00:24:55,470 --> 00:24:59,790 Now FLDS still follows the same rules that like your show is 458 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:01,630 probably at. Like they still have multiple 459 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:06,050 wives and different things. But the normal mainstream LDS 460 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:09,130 people now have to follow the letter of the law. 461 00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:13,530 So they say, OK, you have to follow the law of of the world 462 00:25:13,530 --> 00:25:17,730 or whatever, you know, so that that in essence ended that war 463 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:20,090 when they gave up on the polygamy thing. 464 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:25,210 But they never did in the temple and I'll explain it, but they 465 00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:29,490 did on paper but they didn't. They didn't in the temple 466 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:33,900 because to this date, like when I got, I went to the temple. 467 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:38,340 I married in the temple to my first husband who left me was on 468 00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:41,580 meth, had a girlfriend like didn't take care of my kids, 469 00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:43,260 didn't. I couldn't even find him for two 470 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:45,380 years. To divorce him like this was a 471 00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:46,780 disaster. Okay. 472 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:51,130 And so they still said to me, you cannot have a temple divorce 473 00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:54,810 until you have another husband lined up to take his place. 474 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,690 And if you do have another husband lined up and he fits all 475 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:01,650 the qualifications, we still have to write a letter to your 476 00:26:01,650 --> 00:26:05,050 ex-husband getting permission for you to go through the temple 477 00:26:05,050 --> 00:26:07,890 with him. And he basically gets to decide 478 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:10,210 my fate. Like if he didn't want to and 479 00:26:10,210 --> 00:26:12,290 believe me, he would have. Not he. 480 00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:14,730 He he never did. I never went through with my 481 00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:18,850 second husband. So they get to decide for you, 482 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:22,130 unless you go through a whole council and you, you have to 483 00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:24,730 take your case and plead your case and all this stuff. 484 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:28,290 And then it gets one worse, which is when my ex-husband said 485 00:26:28,290 --> 00:26:32,130 I don't care if they do sanction it, I'm not going, It's because 486 00:26:32,410 --> 00:26:37,610 my son was born, he's my, my, not my first husband, not the 487 00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:39,410 guy that I went through the temple with, right. 488 00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:45,260 So he said, I said we have to get him sealed to us because we 489 00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:48,980 had this son, you know, in our marriage and they're like, no, 490 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:50,820 you don't. And he goes, what do you mean, 491 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,340 no, I don't. And he's like, well, technically 492 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:57,780 her ex-husband was a proxy for you and you're just going to 493 00:26:57,780 --> 00:27:01,540 take over his spot. So like my son is like sealed to 494 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:04,740 this other guy and my ex, has he just lost his mind? 495 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:06,820 He was like, this church is crap. 496 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:08,660 I'm not going. I wasn't sure about it in the 497 00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:10,380 1st place. This just pisses me off. 498 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:13,660 I'm raising his kids and this guy gets to decide whether we 499 00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:17,020 get married and now he's like the fake heaven father of my 500 00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,580 son. You got to be crazy. 501 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,980 His only child. Like that's his blood child and 502 00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:24,220 he just lost it. Yeah, he was done. 503 00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:29,350 He was like but, but, but, but if it were Kyle and Kyle wanted 504 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:32,870 to get married tomorrow to another lady and leave his wife 505 00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:35,670 and leave that wife and leave another wife and leave another 506 00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:38,110 wife, every single one of them would be sealed to him in the 507 00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:43,270 temple because he's a guy and that is polygamy by proxy. 508 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:47,830 My uncle was married seven times and not one of those needed a 509 00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:50,150 temple divorce because he's a man. 510 00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:55,390 He's married to all 7 still like in the temple as far as that 511 00:27:55,390 --> 00:27:58,030 goes. And so they'll try and play it 512 00:27:58,030 --> 00:27:59,230 off. They'll try and say they've 513 00:27:59,230 --> 00:28:01,390 changed their ways. They say a lot of things. 514 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:05,590 But when you leave it open by proxy and you lock it down for a 515 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:09,150 woman like that just doesn't even make sense to me. 516 00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:14,230 You know, I'm like, OK, I I mean, some of my uncles weren't 517 00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:17,430 even justified. And it lets the guys just hurry 518 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:20,590 and randomly rapidly get remarried all the time because 519 00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,110 they have no, they have no reason to not. 520 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:26,890 And they push the not having sex before marriage so hard even 521 00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:29,730 afterward that, you know, a lot of times the guy will do it just 522 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:32,290 to get with a girl. And then she's just, you know, 523 00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:35,170 out of luck. She's out of luck, Chuck. 524 00:28:35,170 --> 00:28:38,850 So. My boss and I were talking 525 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:43,090 yesterday while I was at work. He knows I podcast and I'm a 526 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:46,210 conspiracy, that he calls me a nut because I believe the earth 527 00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:51,510 is flat and all this stuff. Like, I genuinely believe he 528 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:55,910 stares at the ceiling at night, writhing his fists in anger 529 00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:57,710 because I believe the earth is flat. 530 00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:02,110 But we got to talking about, you know, I said I'm bringing a 531 00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:04,790 guest on, She speaks out against the Mormon church and stuff. 532 00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:06,710 And I'm really, you know, I really like her story. 533 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:14,430 And he got to talking about how polygamy was necessary for the 534 00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:18,800 Mormons because after this war. Half pretty much like half of 535 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,000 the male population in the in the faith was decimated. 536 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,600 And so the other like you know you had, you had twice as many 537 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,520 wives and children out there that needed to be absorbed by 538 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,960 other men. And and I was just like if that 539 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,290 was for the will, if that was for the widows and the older 540 00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:43,010 women, I would understand it. But they weren't marrying older 541 00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:44,770 women. They were marrying 14 year olds. 542 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,410 So I don't think so they could have just let her wait till she 543 00:29:49,410 --> 00:29:52,690 was 19 and like maybe a dude would be old enough by then. 544 00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:55,770 Like they didn't do that. They were marrying young girls. 545 00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:58,050 If they only married older women. 546 00:29:58,050 --> 00:30:01,010 And they were like, we have to do this and take care of our our 547 00:30:01,010 --> 00:30:03,490 people, OK, But that's not the case. 548 00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:07,580 And which, you know, ironically, here we are in another circular 549 00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:09,580 moment. I mentioned to you earlier that 550 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:12,500 these garments that these people wear look like something from 551 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,380 the Middle East. Well, what do you see in Islam? 552 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:21,020 Bunch of old cat and I mean senior citizen, old marrying 12 553 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:23,740 year olds and stuff. So there's you another parallel. 554 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,580 Really young brides. Sometimes even as like horribly 555 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,740 young like. They they can be. 556 00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:35,420 Yeah. They they actually marry infants 557 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:41,140 and then wait hopefully wait. But yeah, I mean they don't 558 00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:45,020 care. And that that to me that 559 00:30:45,020 --> 00:30:50,620 religion and and our, like, when I say our Mormon religion is 560 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:55,060 very similar other than it's like the New Age movement of 561 00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:58,500 Muslim, I swear, like. And then they just just take out 562 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,140 the one name, put in Joseph Smith and then you're good. 563 00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:04,220 You know, that that's all they do. 564 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,380 I mean, it cracks me up in a way. 565 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:08,940 But then I'm like, well, it makes sense because if this was 566 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:12,380 sent by a deceiving Angel, it should be similar. 567 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:15,180 Like, shouldn't the story be similar, you know? 568 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:20,740 And I mean, we used to have to veil our faces in the temple. 569 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:24,140 Now they changed this because God told the guy right now 570 00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:26,660 because there was like a whole bunch of problems with women 571 00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:29,660 saying like, we don't like this anymore. 572 00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:32,770 So they changed it. But we used to have to put that 573 00:31:32,770 --> 00:31:37,570 veil over our face when we were anytime in the temple, and they 574 00:31:37,570 --> 00:31:40,610 were doing something for the priesthood because we were not 575 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:43,210 worthy, because we couldn't receive the priesthood to even 576 00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:46,770 set our eyes upon it. And so it was just certain parts 577 00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:49,370 of the ceremony that they had women do that and now they 578 00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:52,610 don't. Now it's different, but I think 579 00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:56,970 it's always the church is really politically correct. 580 00:31:57,130 --> 00:32:00,130 A lot of times, like they'll be really incorrect and then 581 00:32:00,130 --> 00:32:02,650 they'll go full board correction. 582 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:06,650 Like it's like a flip side, just like with the whole, you know, 583 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:10,370 when the priesthood got given to the people later that were black 584 00:32:10,370 --> 00:32:13,170 or brown or whatever, they were like, oh, because it was a 585 00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:15,450 revelation. But it was like during that same 586 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:18,970 time frame. So it makes you go, yeah, OK, 587 00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:21,450 same thing. One guy came out and spoke out 588 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:24,750 against, you know, the pride thing and all that stuff a few 589 00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:26,790 years ago. Well, they took that right back 590 00:32:26,790 --> 00:32:29,190 this year because there's too much of it going on. 591 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:32,310 So they they were like, oh, well, just kidding. 592 00:32:32,430 --> 00:32:36,230 We not that they endorsed it per SE, but they were like, that was 593 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:39,830 a little harsh. And so now they're like, just 594 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:43,910 kidding, you know? And it it just, it amazes me the 595 00:32:43,910 --> 00:32:47,390 amount of times that they've redone the Book of Mormon. 596 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:51,640 If it's perfect in its entirety, just like we can compare the 597 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,760 Holy Bible to the Dead Sea Scrolls. 598 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,400 There's not a lot of difference. There's very few differences. 599 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,760 Like it's if it is, it's like grammatical and they argue about 600 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,680 these little tiny words that are like was or were or something 601 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840 little. But no, it's not like that with 602 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000 the Book of Mormon. They, they actually have had 603 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,240 their copies read on so many times that one of the guys that 604 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,440 I followed after I got Outlook Kyle was asking about, I went on 605 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,850 and and looked at these other people that were LDS that left 606 00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:25,410 and one of them's named Bishop. Earl, a Bishop to us is like a 607 00:33:25,410 --> 00:33:29,930 priest for for Catholics and he used to be a Bishop and they 608 00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:33,930 gave him, they gave him assignment, 'cause I think he 609 00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:37,450 knew something Hebrew or maybe I'm not sure exactly what he 610 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:39,090 knew. But they gave him an assignment 611 00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:41,570 to take one of the original copies of the Book of Mormon and 612 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:44,570 do something with it was some kind of translation thing. 613 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:49,620 And after that he left. He was like, yeah, none of this 614 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,260 is like anything to do with anything we do now. 615 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:58,060 So he's like, OK, like it was just weird, you know, and and so 616 00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:03,580 you see these things and it goes so high up and they basically 617 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:06,820 represent the Godhead. So you when you have, when 618 00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:10,219 you're in the church, there's the prophet, the president, the 619 00:34:10,219 --> 00:34:11,739 prophet. They kind of changed it. 620 00:34:11,739 --> 00:34:16,510 See how they do that? The prophet sounds sounds to oh 621 00:34:16,670 --> 00:34:19,550 So what do they do that he's the president now? 622 00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:22,429 Now I hear it all the time. He's the president. 623 00:34:22,469 --> 00:34:25,389 And I'm like they do these little sneaky things. 624 00:34:25,670 --> 00:34:28,590 So then he has, you know, his first counselor and 2nd 625 00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:29,949 counselor. So what's that? 626 00:34:29,949 --> 00:34:31,909 It represents A Godhead. Right. 627 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:35,790 So there's three. And then he has the quorum of 628 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:38,790 the 70. And it's all these guys that 629 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:42,909 like, know these deep, deep secrets that are even more so 630 00:34:42,909 --> 00:34:45,820 than what I could ever tell you because there's something called 631 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:49,460 a second anointing. Like we go through and do the 632 00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:52,900 ones that I showed you on the paper and I'll talk about with 633 00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,460 the temple rites, but they do another one called a second 634 00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:59,420 anointing that we don't even see that we and it got leaked. 635 00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:02,580 I don't even know who we did, but you can go and check it out 636 00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:06,740 and it it's basically kind of like when the Catholics gave the 637 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:10,660 people back in the day, they would sell them like their way 638 00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:13,180 to heaven. I can't remember those names, 639 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:16,890 but they would say, oh, if you, if you pay us this much money, 640 00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:19,770 you can go to heaven and here's your paper, It's kind of like 641 00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:22,850 that situation, like you can get bought in. 642 00:35:23,290 --> 00:35:26,330 They'll they'll deny this. They'll say this is not true. 643 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:29,650 But I also speak out in truth for Mormons. 644 00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:32,730 Like I I listen to a lot of programs where they've 645 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,290 interviewed people and this one girl that they interviewed and 646 00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:39,940 they were like, yeah, they beat their wives and they choose the 647 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:43,340 the husbands and all this stuff. And I'm like, no, your family 648 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:44,860 just sounds like they were crazy. 649 00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:46,900 Like, no, they they don't do that. 650 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:49,540 Like they don't encourage beating your wife. 651 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:52,300 They don't encourage choosing a husband for anybody. 652 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,400 They don't. They don't. 653 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,040 This is not part of their doctrine anymore. 654 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,800 But then these other people come out against it because maybe 655 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,920 they had a bad dad or a bad family uncle or somebody, or 656 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,920 they were sexually abused in it, which they've had a lot of 657 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,320 sexual abuse cases, just like the Catholics. 658 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,600 But like that's all men. That's not in this, It's not in 659 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200 the church. It's not like it it has happened 660 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,120 and I do believe some of the stuff and a lot of the stuff we 661 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,020 do in the temple it calls out, it puts out energy negative bad 662 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,940 energy. And I wouldn't doubt at the top 663 00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:31,260 level there's some weird SRA type stuff but I can't prove or 664 00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:36,060 show you anything that says that I'm just that's that's how it is 665 00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:41,620 you know so but there is a lot of Satan type worship in there. 666 00:36:42,940 --> 00:36:46,220 We got the inverted stars. And when you go in and you first 667 00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:49,260 go through the temple, everything is really similar to 668 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:53,940 the Masons because Joseph Smith was a master Mason and he became 669 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,100 a master Mason. In two days. 670 00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:00,380 He became a Freemason. And then within 48 hours he was 671 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,820 rose up to the level of Master Mason, which is really weird 672 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:10,340 because he had an older brother and the older brother died and 673 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:12,900 they don't know. It was like a real sudden 674 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:14,780 they're like, oh, sudden, sudden illness. 675 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:19,410 Well, Masons are known for, like, sacrificing their eldest 676 00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:22,450 sons to, like, make it, you know, higher. 677 00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:24,010 And then. Yeah. 678 00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:27,970 And then Joseph Smith's son, his first baby that was born to him 679 00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:30,690 was a son. And it was shortly after that, 680 00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:33,930 extremely deformed, barely lived. 681 00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:35,930 And they named it the dead brother's name. 682 00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:39,890 And I'm like, there's some crap. And then all of a sudden he's 683 00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:43,570 Master Mason. So after he's a Master Mason, he 684 00:37:43,570 --> 00:37:46,090 goes through their temple ceremony because they have a 685 00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:49,170 temple ceremony as well. And I've spoke to the New York 686 00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:52,850 patriot who was an OTO member, and I've spoke to a couple 687 00:37:52,850 --> 00:37:56,930 people that were Masons. And they say it's the same thing 688 00:37:57,010 --> 00:37:59,010 as a not. He's like, you got to go watch a 689 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:01,530 Gnostic Mass. It's like, very similar. 690 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:04,790 You get naked, you put on these new robes, You guys get naked, 691 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:07,950 You put on this new thing, like you have the sash thing, you 692 00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:09,950 have the apron. Like, he was talking all about 693 00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:11,910 it to me. He's like, you got to go watch. 694 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:14,950 Some parts of this are similar, like the way they they don't do 695 00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:16,830 this anymore. They used to say they'd slit 696 00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:20,030 their throats or slit their bowels before they'd speak a 697 00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:22,950 word of the stuff I'm telling you, and they don't do it 698 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:25,270 anymore because people got uncomfortable. 699 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:29,230 So in the 1980s, they were like, hey, God told us we're not going 700 00:38:29,230 --> 00:38:32,590 to do that anymore. But it's a Gnostic Mass. 701 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:35,940 That's the same thing. Why are we doing similar stuff 702 00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:40,980 as an OTO ritual at any point? Even if they did stop, like 703 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,020 what? Why is it so close to Masonry? 704 00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:47,060 And when you go and look at the church site now? 705 00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:51,260 Because everything blew up after the Internet came about. 706 00:38:51,260 --> 00:38:54,260 When the Internet came about, they had to start backtracking 707 00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:57,300 like nobody's business. And at first they tried to keep 708 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,450 people from going on. They they were like, we have our 709 00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:03,490 own website, you can talk to your own people. 710 00:39:03,490 --> 00:39:07,370 You can talk to your Bishop. Doubt your doubt, doubt your 711 00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:09,090 doubts. Don't doubt your faith. 712 00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:11,450 That was what they would. That was like their slogan. 713 00:39:11,530 --> 00:39:13,810 It was like a slogan all over the place. 714 00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:17,410 And so for a while there, that worked. 715 00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:19,050 But people were just too curious. 716 00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:20,370 They would hear these crazy things. 717 00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:23,830 And so they had to go backtrack. And now there's a video out that 718 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:26,870 says, yeah, why? Why is Mormons like masonry? 719 00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:29,470 Oh, because blah, blah, blah. And now they admit that he's a 720 00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:32,190 Mason, but that was never a thing when I was young. 721 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:35,470 And they also denied that he was a polygamist when I was young. 722 00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:38,710 They denied all of that. They're like, Oh no, that's 723 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:42,270 that's the Brigham Young did that later because of the war. 724 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:44,670 Well, what about Joseph Smith? He already had a whole bunch of 725 00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:46,030 wives. He had over 30. 726 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:48,820 So what about that? That was before they made it to, 727 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:52,380 you know, the whole big deal with the federal government that 728 00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:54,340 was under Brigham. So what about that? 729 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:58,500 And if they were already fighting about polygamy, then 730 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,140 how was this so-called war? The 'cause? 731 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:05,060 It can't be. It happened after the fact. 732 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:07,100 They already were pissed. Yeah. 733 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:09,820 So it doesn't. Their timeline never adds up, 734 00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:14,420 but they don't care. They just they just push it 735 00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:16,850 under a rug and say like it's. That's fine. 736 00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:19,090 You know, we don't do that anymore. 737 00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:23,410 So. But you know, yeah, we get the 738 00:40:23,410 --> 00:40:25,970 new underwear. Mason's get new underwear. 739 00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:31,050 I wore those underwear. They are AT shirt and like boxer 740 00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:35,730 briefs for women as well. It's like without the flaps, but 741 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:39,450 they look like that's. They go to the knee and they're 742 00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:41,610 long. They come to like hear a cap 743 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,650 sleeve. They have a ruler over your 744 00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:47,850 umbilicus they that goes sideways. 745 00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:51,410 Then they have the square encompass over each nipple and 746 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:55,170 then the ruler on the I believe it's the right knee. 747 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:59,690 So yeah all these signs and symbols and I wore them for a 748 00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:02,850 long time and had no idea. I had no idea. 749 00:41:03,450 --> 00:41:06,930 But that's how it is. And the first time you go 750 00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:10,900 through, you're going through for yourself, but the second 751 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:14,860 time and third time and any time after that, you're going through 752 00:41:14,860 --> 00:41:18,940 for dead people. And I mean they just put all 753 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:22,620 these names in genealogy bases. That's why they're really crazy 754 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,820 about like ancestry. DNA is a Mormon based, that's a 755 00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:28,900 Mormon based thing. So they own that. 756 00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:33,820 They're really into DNA because they want us all to know our 757 00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:36,620 family tree as far back as you can get it. 758 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:39,740 And then you take all the names and you do this work for the 759 00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:42,340 dead. And they're supposedly waiting 760 00:41:42,740 --> 00:41:47,300 in like this waiting area in heaven, like not heaven, but in 761 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:51,420 the beyond, for us to do the work for them so they can ascend 762 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:53,820 because they believe in three levels of heaven. 763 00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:56,460 So yeah. Wow. 764 00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:02,660 It's a lot. I feel like I'm, I'm over 765 00:42:02,860 --> 00:42:03,860 sometimes. I talk a lot. 766 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:09,700 No, you were perfectly fine. I'm just gobsmacked because I've 767 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,380 never heard any of this, you know. 768 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:14,180 I've never heard any. You know, I'm and I'm sitting 769 00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:16,460 here thinking, damn. And I really thought I knew 770 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,220 something about this is the basics. 771 00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:23,900 Yeah, this is the very basic and like they used to have where we 772 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:26,540 would get naked, like what I went through, you had to get 773 00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:30,440 naked and put this poncho thing on that was open on the sides 774 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,840 and sit on this stool thing is like a bench. 775 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,080 And come to find out later, it's an altar. 776 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,200 I had no idea. And you're in a little dressing 777 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120 room. No, nothing sexual is happening 778 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,680 to you. But the fact that you have to be 779 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,840 in there naked, like, and then somebody comes in and blesses 780 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,040 you through the sides of it like that it's a lady. 781 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,360 But and then I'm sitting there and the only weird part about it 782 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960 is I was like, she's a lady. She can't have the priesthood. 783 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,320 And my dumb, my dumb, brainwashed brain was like, 784 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,160 where's the guy at? He I need a guy for this, then 785 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,880 she can't do this. And then I. 786 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,880 I'm surprised they didn't have a guy doing that. 787 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,400 That sounds like some weird fucking shit that they would do. 788 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,840 Well, I think maybe they used to and then they probably changed 789 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,100 it because they changed. They change everything and they 790 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:17,900 changed that whole. Thing. 791 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,660 And then God said, ah, you know, we're not going to do this. 792 00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:22,100 You got it. You got it. 793 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:25,620 Yep, dude, I see the, he told. Yep, he told the Prophet. 794 00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:28,260 Yep, you're not wrong. And then it was because so many 795 00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:31,380 people were uncomfortable. So now they wear a jumpsuit. 796 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:35,060 Instead of being naked in this poncho thing, they wear a 797 00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:38,100 jumpsuit that zips up, and they only do it on your forehead. 798 00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,900 But they still do the same blessings. 799 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,940 They bless your sinews and your loins and all this weird stuff 800 00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:47,620 so that you'll go forth and prosper and making babies and 801 00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:50,700 all this weird stuff so. As of now, as of now, you give 802 00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,660 it a couple years and it'll probably switch up. 803 00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:53,820 It'll be different then they'll be. 804 00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:56,300 They're gonna be blessing your ears, yeah. 805 00:43:56,740 --> 00:44:00,140 And your eyebrows? Yeah, they'll change. 806 00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:03,060 They change it all the time. It's wild like. 807 00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:04,460 I think that's a sign right there. 808 00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:10,340 I think that's a in my opinion. I think that's a sign like so 809 00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:18,030 many changes within that. Religion I I guess that has that 810 00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:22,110 has to like through generations that has to be a little weird 811 00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:24,870 like well back in my day we used to like just like the same when 812 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:26,550 I was young we used to do it like this. 813 00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:31,310 Now they do it like that and things have just changed so much 814 00:44:31,310 --> 00:44:35,230 and you you would think with like a a religion like that, 815 00:44:35,230 --> 00:44:37,470 they would try to keep it the same. 816 00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:42,510 They don't care because they say that God reveals it to the 817 00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:44,950 living prophet. It's a little different for the 818 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:46,590 Pope. He has to at least go by 819 00:44:46,590 --> 00:44:48,790 guidelines that are already written because they don't 820 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:50,710 believe in any current revelation. 821 00:44:51,170 --> 00:44:53,690 So they feel that all the revelation that's already taken 822 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:56,450 place is already done. At least they have a solid 823 00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:59,490 foundation that Pope can do whatever he wants, and he may 824 00:44:59,490 --> 00:45:04,370 get criticized for it, but he doesn't base it on God told me 825 00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:08,410 like he might just do it because he's in charge, you know, at 826 00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:11,970 least he has the balls. Excuse my language enough to say 827 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:15,770 I'm going to do this instead of like the Mormons who are so soft 828 00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:19,650 spoken, They're like, oh, but God said so it's OK, you know, 829 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:22,450 God, God told us. And I'm like, no. 830 00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:25,450 And it's a yeah, it's a manipulation too. 831 00:45:25,450 --> 00:45:27,810 Even the way they speak, they speak, really. 832 00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:31,890 If you watch how they speak at conference or like when they're 833 00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:37,490 on television at all, it's a very soft, very unassuming male, 834 00:45:38,070 --> 00:45:41,230 very unassuming male presentation to the world that 835 00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:43,670 they that they're not, oh, they would never hurt a family. 836 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:46,670 They're just nice old grandpas, you know, that's what they want 837 00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:49,550 to come across like. And then you find out some stuff 838 00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:53,110 later, which has happened here. We've had some really bad 839 00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:57,590 ritualistic sexual abuse cases here that are still open with 840 00:45:57,590 --> 00:46:00,870 like attorneys and sheriff's and all the stuff involved in people 841 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:04,190 at the high levels. And you know, that case is still 842 00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:06,360 open. Some people talk about it 843 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560 already. But I kind of feel weird, like 844 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,080 other than the mention, because, I mean, you're supposed to be 845 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,000 innocent until proven guilty. So I feel weird about going into 846 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,120 a full thing on it. But if you look up the Levitt 847 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,880 case, it's pretty disturbing. And I I don't doubt that there's 848 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,920 some things that happened there. Yeah, it's it's wild. 849 00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:33,430 I know. It's. 850 00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:38,070 I mean, and then let alone like the fact that if you're not 851 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:41,510 married, your priesthood comes from your husband. 852 00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:44,150 So I always used to ask my grandma, like, well, what about 853 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:47,230 people that don't get married? Like, what if they're the best 854 00:46:47,230 --> 00:46:50,070 people ever? They can't go to the the nicest 855 00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:52,950 heaven, the celestial Kingdom, 'cause they have the celestial 856 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:57,550 Kingdom, the telestial Kingdom and the terrestrial Kingdom, and 857 00:46:57,550 --> 00:46:59,770 they're all separate. They're all three. 858 00:46:59,930 --> 00:47:01,130 Three. Heavens, yeah. 859 00:47:01,130 --> 00:47:04,450 That makes sense because I was floating around on Reddit. 860 00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:07,010 Uh huh. I was trying to find those the 861 00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:09,930 the photos that that you were talking about cuz I found them 862 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:12,090 last time. But I keep seeing these things 863 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:15,170 and it says terrestrial. Yeah, Celestial. 864 00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:16,970 And I didn't. I was gonna ask you I I had no 865 00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:19,410 idea what that even meant. But OK, so those are the. 866 00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:22,850 So there's three levels. And then there's then there's 867 00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:26,250 kind of like purgatory, which is reserved. 868 00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:29,770 It it's not called that. They call it outer darkness, and 869 00:47:29,770 --> 00:47:33,290 that's reserved solely for murderers and like people that 870 00:47:33,290 --> 00:47:35,530 leave the church and speak out against it like me. 871 00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:42,090 So that's what they say. They say that that's solely 872 00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:45,690 reserved for that. And then hell is like, they kind 873 00:47:45,690 --> 00:47:47,530 of skirt around hell a little bit. 874 00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:51,230 They're kind of like, well, hell is because you didn't do what 875 00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:53,950 you were supposed to. So hell is like being on earth, 876 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:57,750 but they don't really come out and say, yeah, you could go to 877 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:01,710 hell except for outer darkness, which is murderers and people 878 00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:06,030 that leave and speak out and so and or and or leave. 879 00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:08,630 I mean, I you don't have to speak out, but if you turn 880 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:12,110 against it after you've gone to the highest level, then they 881 00:48:12,110 --> 00:48:15,030 feel that you are definitely going to go to outer darkness. 882 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:21,470 So yeah, ridiculous. My husband was like, why are my 883 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:24,910 parents so weird with you? And they're not weird with me 884 00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:27,790 because I left the church at 16. I just thought it would be the 885 00:48:27,790 --> 00:48:30,030 same for you. But then he mentioned to them 886 00:48:30,030 --> 00:48:32,270 one day, oh, she had gone through the temple. 887 00:48:32,550 --> 00:48:34,990 So then everybody knows what level you're at. 888 00:48:35,230 --> 00:48:38,790 Everyone. And so most people in Utah wear 889 00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:41,790 that as, like, a badge of honor. Like, if you say, oh, yeah, I've 890 00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:44,870 been to everybody. Everybody in my neighborhood has 891 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:46,930 like all of them. That's a thing. 892 00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:50,770 You know, like they've all, I mean there will be probably one 893 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:55,570 in 10 maybe that haven't and you, you know. 894 00:48:56,090 --> 00:48:59,770 But if you leave that's like a badge of like bad. 895 00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:03,090 And so his parents know I'm not I don't go and that I'm against 896 00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:05,490 it. So automatically they're like, 897 00:49:06,430 --> 00:49:07,830 you know, she's gonna go to hell. 898 00:49:07,830 --> 00:49:10,950 So don't bother wasting your time on her, 'cause they're, 899 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:14,590 like, still nice to like my husband or like other people in 900 00:49:14,590 --> 00:49:18,030 the family that aren't Mormon. Well, because you can still save 901 00:49:18,030 --> 00:49:20,150 them, you know, But you can't save me. 902 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:23,510 I'm an apostate and. Once you've already been to the 903 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:25,990 Mormon, once you've already been to the temple, you've done it, 904 00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:27,870 and then you leave. You're unsavable. 905 00:49:27,870 --> 00:49:29,190 You're fucked. You're shunned. 906 00:49:30,110 --> 00:49:34,130 Unless I if I went back and I begged for forgiveness and I 907 00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:39,370 went through like the whole excommunication and then I went 908 00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:42,610 to like, it's like court, like church court. 909 00:49:42,970 --> 00:49:46,410 And then you go in front of all this panel of men and they 910 00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:48,810 decide your fate whether you're sorry or not. 911 00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:51,210 And then they give you like they'll say like, oh, you have 912 00:49:51,210 --> 00:49:53,770 to wait a year and you have to get re baptized like you were 913 00:49:53,770 --> 00:49:58,050 never done any of it and rework your way all the way back up and 914 00:49:58,050 --> 00:50:01,720 then go back through the temple. Maybe then I'm never doing that, 915 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160 by the way. Not because it's hard, just 916 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,880 because it's yucky. Like I I never felt worse than I 917 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,200 felt in that room. Because before you go to the 918 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,880 temple, the church is really great. 919 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,240 It keeps you busy and it's a little overwhelming on busyness, 920 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,850 especially as a mom. But like they treat you well, 921 00:50:22,850 --> 00:50:24,890 They'll help you if you don't have food. 922 00:50:25,170 --> 00:50:27,650 They have all these great get togethers. 923 00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:32,010 It's very community based. It's there if you have surgery, 924 00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:34,650 people will bring you casseroles, if you know, 925 00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:39,250 whatever, all that, all of it. And so my allergies are bad too. 926 00:50:39,250 --> 00:50:42,320 Today you're Kyle's having struggle I. 927 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,520 Just took an allergy pill too. I don't know if it's helping or 928 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,920 making it worse, but my cat's over here so I got cat. 929 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,360 Anyhow, it's the worst. They're bad right now. 930 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,160 But yeah, so if you if you have that kind of community and they 931 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,920 surround you and they treat you good, and especially they do to 932 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,720 the youth, I mean, they really cater to the kids, which doesn't 933 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,640 surprise me. Drew that you had a really good 934 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,400 relationship with the neighbor and stuff. 935 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,520 Like, they do basketball, they do dances, they do, you know, 936 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,560 all this fun stuff, they do activities for kids and you can 937 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,400 go meet a nice Mormon girl, you know, whatever. 938 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,000 Like they do combined things, whatever. 939 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,600 But like later when you go through and you know what's 940 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,920 really up, you can't take that back. 941 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,560 And, you know, and you're sitting in church, like, for a 942 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,360 month afterward, like, what the hell happened to me in there? 943 00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:39,830 It's bad. It's not. 944 00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:41,030 It's not fun. Yeah. 945 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:47,110 And there I I never joined. I I was I was close. 946 00:51:47,110 --> 00:51:50,150 I was tempted there for a while. There was like 2-3 year stretch 947 00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:57,990 where I was tempted to go join the local Mason Temple. 948 00:51:59,110 --> 00:52:01,870 I had a a guy that I was really good friends with. 949 00:52:01,870 --> 00:52:04,470 He was an older cat and he was telling me. 950 00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:09,020 Like he was he he told me, like the very first time he mentioned 951 00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:11,300 any of it. He was like, technically, if 952 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,660 anybody finds out that I'm telling you this, I'm supposed 953 00:52:14,660 --> 00:52:19,660 to be like, staked on a pole and my guts are supposed to be 954 00:52:19,820 --> 00:52:23,540 ripped out of me and. Supposed to be like cast in the 955 00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:26,180 ocean or something like that. And I was just like, well, all 956 00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:30,700 right then. But he was telling me about how 957 00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,100 if I did this, 'cause I I wasn't going to go into their blind. 958 00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:39,850 You know, I've always had reserves about it because of the 959 00:52:39,850 --> 00:52:43,690 ritualistic aspect of it. Like he told me that there were, 960 00:52:43,690 --> 00:52:46,250 I was going to basically have to go strip down in front of a 961 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:49,690 whole temple full of strangers and do some stuff. 962 00:52:49,690 --> 00:52:54,570 And I was just like, I'm not. I don't think that I want it 963 00:52:54,570 --> 00:53:00,650 that much, you know, you're like, no, it might be cold that 964 00:53:00,650 --> 00:53:03,800 day. It's always cold. 965 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:10,080 No, but like, I just. I was listening to the New York 966 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,840 Patriot about that, and one guy was like, I would take a blue 967 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,040 chew. Maybe it was. 968 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,040 Somebody. I guess it wasn't even that. 969 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,320 It's just why do I got to get naked? 970 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,440 You know? Like, why? 971 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,360 Why do I have to get naked in front of the group? 972 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,360 Because it's all guys. Yep. 973 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,020 And you know, that's it's scary. I mean the stuff that is 974 00:53:32,020 --> 00:53:34,580 ritualistic is that way for a reason. 975 00:53:34,580 --> 00:53:38,700 And I really believe like OK with Joseph Smith and his, his 976 00:53:38,740 --> 00:53:42,660 upbringing, they served the House of a Brac and that means 977 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:45,220 they they served a Braxis, which is a demon. 978 00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:49,180 And I didn't learn this until I was way old. 979 00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:52,140 Like, I still don't think this is really out there much, but 980 00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:56,060 his mom had a direct quote that I sent to you and it said we 981 00:53:56,060 --> 00:53:57,460 have to serve the House of Abrac. 982 00:53:57,460 --> 00:54:00,260 Just because we've done other like things like treasure 983 00:54:00,260 --> 00:54:02,780 digging, whatever, doesn't mean we forget our service. 984 00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:06,700 And she was Scottish, so it makes sense, you know, because 985 00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:10,820 she was a healer as well. So I'm sure she had a background 986 00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:13,700 in the Magus in these kind of different things. 987 00:54:14,060 --> 00:54:17,780 So my, my whole point is is like that whole religion. 988 00:54:18,020 --> 00:54:22,700 Later, after your first time, you then go back for who, the 989 00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,220 dead? Well, Abraxas is a necromancer, 990 00:54:25,630 --> 00:54:28,230 so it makes complete sense to my brain now. 991 00:54:28,510 --> 00:54:32,270 But like, back then I was like just, oh, this is what we do and 992 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:35,990 that's how we do it. You know, it makes sense to you 993 00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:39,230 because people are like, it didn't make sense to me. 994 00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:42,270 And I was always a questioner and my grandma was just like, 995 00:54:43,070 --> 00:54:45,270 it's fine it you'll get used to it. 996 00:54:45,830 --> 00:54:49,550 And I'm like, I know, but that shouldn't be how it feels like. 997 00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:53,810 It's kind of your end unless you become really high up in the 998 00:54:53,810 --> 00:54:55,650 church. It's kind of the highest you can 999 00:54:55,650 --> 00:54:59,250 go, you know? And so it's supposed to be your 1000 00:54:59,250 --> 00:55:01,450 best day ever. And it was not my best day. 1001 00:55:02,770 --> 00:55:07,890 Sucky, You know, I'm just like. Sorry, you're you're referring 1002 00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:11,170 to the temple, the day that. OK, yeah, that's supposed to be 1003 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:14,090 like the the highlight of your life, The pinnacle. 1004 00:55:14,090 --> 00:55:15,690 Because you get married for time. 1005 00:55:15,690 --> 00:55:18,010 First thing you do is you get married for time and all 1006 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:21,940 eternity, and you do that kneeling over an altar, holding 1007 00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:24,460 each other's hands. There's no till death do us part 1008 00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:26,900 stuff. The the guy just proceeds over 1009 00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:27,940 it. He says what he wants. 1010 00:55:27,940 --> 00:55:30,700 There's very few words, but the one thing they say is you'll be 1011 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:32,500 married for time and all eternity. 1012 00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:35,700 And you look in these mirrors that face each other, which is 1013 00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,820 very occult in nature and they go on forever, Like when you can 1014 00:55:39,820 --> 00:55:43,020 see through it like a tunnel of mirrors, that's what they have. 1015 00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:45,380 You look down and I remember thinking, this just feels 1016 00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:48,780 creepy. Like I I didn't feel like happy 1017 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,080 or oh, this is my what? That's your wedding day. 1018 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,200 Like in in that church, that's your wedding. 1019 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,960 And if you've never been married before, see, I got a regular 1020 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,080 wedding because he was a Catholic and so we had to wait a 1021 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,880 year and and then he became Mormon. 1022 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,320 But other people, if you were just going to get married, your 1023 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,360 family cannot come if they're not Mormon and they don't have 1024 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,420 the the whole card and their temple worthy and the whole 9 1025 00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:20,860 yards, which means you're you're baptized into that church, that 1026 00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:23,100 means you've already gone through the temple for yourself. 1027 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:26,060 That's a long time. You know you've got to really 1028 00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:28,100 put a lot of work in for all that. 1029 00:56:28,580 --> 00:56:32,140 And so if you don't have that, your parents can't go. 1030 00:56:32,660 --> 00:56:35,260 His parents couldn't go. Like when we went through that, 1031 00:56:36,140 --> 00:56:41,340 I mean, and and they wear the dresses that I sent you instead 1032 00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:44,680 of their wedding dress, and they put the wedding dress on 1033 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,440 afterward. Or you can put the stuff over 1034 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,080 the top of the wedding dress. But by that time, you got a lot 1035 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,400 of stuff on, you know, then you got your garments, the dress, 1036 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,400 then the robe, then the apron, all this stuff on top. 1037 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,360 And that apron, One of my guys that I just interviewed not too 1038 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,680 long ago, he was like, the part that really got me was when 1039 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,840 you're in the temple ceremony, 'cause it's like a creation 1040 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,440 ceremony and God's creating the earth. 1041 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,760 And and they're like, talking to angels. 1042 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,920 And the angels are like, let's go visit Adam. 1043 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,360 Is he OK? Blah, blah, blah. 1044 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,760 And then so in the Lone world, he's calling out to God and he's 1045 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,840 at an altar and and he used to say, they used to say Pele L, 1046 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,480 which means, oh, hear me, false God. 1047 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,360 But too many people started learning what it meant. 1048 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,390 And so now it's just, oh God, hear the words of my mouth. 1049 00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:44,950 But who shows up after he says that at an altar is Lucifer, and 1050 00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:48,030 Lucifer is the God of this world, as we know. 1051 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:52,910 And he shows up with an apron, that green fig leaf apron that 1052 00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:55,270 they wear. And he says, you better put this 1053 00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:57,710 on because God's going to know you're naked. 1054 00:57:58,190 --> 00:58:02,500 And so he gives the apron to us. And then the whole, the whole 1055 00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:05,100 congregation stands up and they're like, please put on your 1056 00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:06,860 apron. Why are we doing what the hell 1057 00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:09,180 The devil says. That doesn't even make any 1058 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:10,420 sense. Like what? 1059 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,500 Why are we doing something like representing? 1060 00:58:13,820 --> 00:58:15,540 Oh, Lucifer brought you an apron. 1061 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:19,820 So let's stand up and put it on, you know, And the aprons used to 1062 00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:21,980 look creepy. I sent you what Joseph Smith's 1063 00:58:21,980 --> 00:58:23,700 look like. And it was Masonic. 1064 00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:27,180 And my grandma. My great grandma. 1065 00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:29,740 So great. Yeah, great Grandma. 1066 00:58:30,610 --> 00:58:33,090 She's gone now. But she told me those aprons 1067 00:58:33,090 --> 00:58:35,370 were so much better, They were so much prettier. 1068 00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:37,450 And then they changed to the fig Leafs later. 1069 00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:41,410 And she's like because they got a lot of pushback, 'cause 1070 00:58:41,410 --> 00:58:44,690 there's occult stuff on them, There's like stars and moons and 1071 00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:48,850 weird stuff on there. And I'm like, yeah, that's 1072 00:58:48,850 --> 00:58:51,130 weird. I don't know, Like the more I 1073 00:58:51,130 --> 00:58:53,410 knew, the more I wished I hadn't known back then. 1074 00:58:53,410 --> 00:58:56,930 But now I'm grateful, you know? But it just made me question. 1075 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,200 And you have to remember like I lost my whole family after this 1076 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,600 happened. Like, except for my mom, I I've 1077 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,800 never had a good relationship with my in laws. 1078 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,080 Because of this. I've never had, you know, felt 1079 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,200 accepted by them. My own grandma, who raised me 1080 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,730 after the courts took us, she raised me and she came after me 1081 00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:22,090 saying that I beat my kids. She brought CPS into it. 1082 00:59:22,090 --> 00:59:25,290 She filed actual charges. She took me to court. 1083 00:59:25,330 --> 00:59:28,650 And when she couldn't take my kids away, she sued me for like 1084 00:59:28,650 --> 00:59:33,770 money and and my whole family thinks I'm a thief and like a 1085 00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:35,530 bad person and that I beat my kids. 1086 00:59:35,890 --> 00:59:41,490 So yeah, that's how bad it gets. You don't just leave unscathed. 1087 00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:45,860 You don't just get a go now. And everybody knows, like, 1088 00:59:45,860 --> 00:59:48,220 everybody's like, oh, you know, you know what she did? 1089 00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:51,820 Even even if you slip. And like, I have cousins that 1090 00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:54,780 have slipped and, like, became drunks and stuff later or got 1091 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,340 into drugs later, as long as they didn't do what I do and say 1092 00:59:58,340 --> 00:59:59,860 it's not true. They're fine. 1093 01:00:00,340 --> 01:00:03,020 Like the church doesn't like it. But the family didn't throw them 1094 01:00:03,020 --> 01:00:06,260 out, you know, The family's like, oh, he's just going 1095 01:00:06,260 --> 01:00:08,060 through a hard time. He'll be back. 1096 01:00:08,060 --> 01:00:11,500 It's fine, you know. But if you speak out and you're 1097 01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,390 like, no, I'm done. I'm. 1098 01:00:13,550 --> 01:00:15,430 I'm not doing that anymore. It's crap. 1099 01:00:15,550 --> 01:00:17,510 I don't like it. Then they come after you. 1100 01:00:19,070 --> 01:00:21,990 So I don't know if every family would, but that's what happened 1101 01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:25,270 to me. Yeah, it wasn't fun. 1102 01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:30,150 It wasn't fun at all. They said my grandma was like, 1103 01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:33,430 well, and the only reason why CPS didn't happen was because my 1104 01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:37,470 daughter was 17, and they knew she was close to 18. 1105 01:00:37,470 --> 01:00:41,090 And they said they could tell there was some fishy about it. 1106 01:00:41,090 --> 01:00:44,170 And the CPS lady said, OK, well, I'm going to put you on the 1107 01:00:44,170 --> 01:00:48,530 stand and you're close to 18, and I will perjure you if you 1108 01:00:48,530 --> 01:00:50,930 are lying. And my daughter was like, I 1109 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:52,850 don't even know what she wrote on that paper. 1110 01:00:52,850 --> 01:00:57,050 My grandma wrote it. They were like, what? 1111 01:00:57,890 --> 01:01:01,210 So they dropped the whole case. But still, I had to go through 1112 01:01:01,210 --> 01:01:03,290 all of that. I mean, I was pregnant at the 1113 01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:06,130 time with our last baby and it was brutal. 1114 01:01:06,490 --> 01:01:12,390 Brutal. It was bad and it was all 1115 01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:15,590 because she heard that. I was listening to that Bishop, 1116 01:01:15,590 --> 01:01:22,150 Earl guy and whatnot on in my own bedroom on my laptop and 1117 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:26,670 they were like, you're listening to anti Mormon propaganda and I 1118 01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:28,630 am. So is it safe to say that 1119 01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:31,710 there's really no separation of church and state in There's 1120 01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:33,390 none. No, there's not. 1121 01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:35,750 It's so. It's so controlled. 1122 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:38,910 And when the thing from 2020 that will never go away 1123 01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:43,670 happened, the church came out and told everyone, all of their 1124 01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:47,030 people, that they should all go and get their kids done and get 1125 01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:50,710 themselves done for the cure, the cure to be safe. 1126 01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:54,550 And they pushed it on their whole everybody. 1127 01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:57,190 And I was sick when I heard that. 1128 01:01:57,190 --> 01:02:01,680 Because number one, there should never be anybody between you and 1129 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,120 your health except a doctor, probably. 1130 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,240 You know you. You need to decide what's best 1131 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,960 for yourself in general, but also with what happened with the 1132 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,520 side effects and everything later. 1133 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840 I and and they just don't even care. 1134 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,040 I mean, they'll push it again when the next. 1135 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,720 They're about to. They will. 1136 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,360 The Church will. Stand put that on a sideburner 1137 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,080 now that we're about to have World War Three with Israel. 1138 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,040 I saw that my husband didn't know what the heck I was. 1139 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,840 I was like, you know, this is like part of the prophecy of the 1140 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,640 end of the world, right? And he's. 1141 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:44,280 Like what we just gave Iran $6 billion and Iran. 1142 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,440 Gave Hamas all these weapons that we left in Afghanistan and 1143 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,080 it's just crazy. It's going to be bad. 1144 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,160 It's going. To And we don't even need to be 1145 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,680 worried about Israel. They are not our friends, but 1146 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,080 they they always have been tied to America and America always 1147 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,440 stands with. Israel because they've always 1148 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,560 controlled us, yeah. And the the because the Jesuits, 1149 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:12,440 they're all Jesuits. But yeah, yeah, I think that 1150 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,280 there's a lot more going on than meets the eye there. 1151 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,560 But I know this for a fact. I know that everybody should be 1152 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:26,280 noticing the signs of the times. And if you're not saved and you 1153 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,520 don't believe in in the Bible and Jesus, you better get that 1154 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,160 way real fast. Like you don't have to do 1155 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,000 anything I say. But I'm here to tell you right 1156 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,480 now, like the earthquake that happened in Afghanistan, the 1157 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,860 wars that are breaking out, everything that's going on. 1158 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:45,220 Like, if you really aren't familiar with the signs and 1159 01:03:45,220 --> 01:03:49,300 times of Noah, like maybe you should get that way, 'cause 1160 01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:53,580 we're about there, you know, in the days of Noah will be just 1161 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:56,100 like that. And it's gotten nothing but 1162 01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,860 worse, You know, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't definitely 1163 01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:02,260 doesn't seem to be getting any better. 1164 01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:08,170 Oh, no, I don't think it will. And even with the next election, 1165 01:04:08,170 --> 01:04:10,930 people have their faith and I'm like, are you guys ridiculous? 1166 01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:13,090 Like they're going to put whoever the hell they want. 1167 01:04:13,610 --> 01:04:17,010 It doesn't matter what we vote. It's selected, not elected. 1168 01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:19,850 And that's just the truth. Like they're going to do what 1169 01:04:19,850 --> 01:04:22,410 they want. Why have you chosen to remain in 1170 01:04:22,410 --> 01:04:25,250 Utah? We're stuck here. 1171 01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:29,530 I would love to actually go, but we have adult children that are 1172 01:04:29,530 --> 01:04:32,450 all pretty planted and we have grandkids and. 1173 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,320 So did your children prescribed to the kool-aid over there or 1174 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,640 they? No, no. 1175 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,880 Luckily. They're spared from the the 1176 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,120 shame that you got because I'm assuming they never made it 1177 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,520 through the temple, right? Nope, they never have. 1178 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,920 Looked at under the same lens as you. 1179 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,040 They're still in their eyes or in their world. 1180 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,280 Saveable, yes. And they treat them very 1181 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,880 different. Like if you want to go with some 1182 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,760 of the family, like treats them normal. 1183 01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:05,390 Even though I would say I have, I mean I can be crass at times. 1184 01:05:05,390 --> 01:05:07,950 I'm really a loudmouth. Like I just say what I think, 1185 01:05:07,950 --> 01:05:13,710 but like not loudmouth as in just obnoxiously loud for no 1186 01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:16,110 reason. But if I have a a feeling 1187 01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,350 awesome, I'm just going to say it, you know? 1188 01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:23,870 And I don't sugarcoat anything because a sugar coated dog turd 1189 01:05:23,870 --> 01:05:27,470 is still dog turd. So I just skip that because I'm 1190 01:05:27,470 --> 01:05:31,340 not about that, you know? But my daughter's almost worse 1191 01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:34,340 than me in that respect. And they they just love her. 1192 01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:37,540 They think she's great. Like, same with my husband. 1193 01:05:37,540 --> 01:05:40,300 There's no shame on him. It's mostly me. 1194 01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,740 And he feels bad about it. I mean, don't misunderstand. 1195 01:05:43,740 --> 01:05:46,780 He feels, he feels sad that it's like it is. 1196 01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:51,300 They don't do anything outwardly per SE anymore because I have no 1197 01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:56,380 contact with my family, and other than the ones that are 1198 01:05:56,380 --> 01:05:59,300 out, I only have my mom, who's here. 1199 01:05:59,620 --> 01:06:03,460 Another reason. And then I my brother died and 1200 01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:07,780 so did my dad, so I didn't. I don't really have anybody 1201 01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:09,700 else. All the extended family has 1202 01:06:09,860 --> 01:06:15,020 pretty much written me off and they think I'm a thief and a bad 1203 01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:19,340 person and his family never really got close with me. 1204 01:06:19,340 --> 01:06:23,180 And it was awkward, you know, from the get go, 'cause they 1205 01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:27,500 knew all that. So they're not mean to me. 1206 01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:30,780 They just, I think they have a certain opinion. 1207 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:32,620 And I mean, I I can't change that. 1208 01:06:32,820 --> 01:06:37,460 You know, if they see my podcast, which I always last 1209 01:06:37,460 --> 01:06:41,300 time she asked, she was like his, His mom's really, really, 1210 01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:44,900 really religious. And she's like, oh, so what's 1211 01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:48,180 the name of your podcast? And I'm like, oh, they swear a 1212 01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:49,780 lot on there. The people I interview, you 1213 01:06:49,780 --> 01:06:51,220 wouldn't like it. She's like, yeah, I wouldn't 1214 01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:56,100 like that. Oh, thank goodness. 1215 01:06:56,380 --> 01:07:02,260 I'm like, oh boy, because otherwise I mean, but eventually 1216 01:07:02,260 --> 01:07:03,860 somebody somewhere is going to see it. 1217 01:07:03,860 --> 01:07:08,580 I mean, it gets out and I just, whatever it is, what it is, 1218 01:07:08,740 --> 01:07:12,940 like, what can you do? I'd rather save the people that 1219 01:07:12,940 --> 01:07:15,780 are worth saving than try and change people's minds. 1220 01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:18,220 Same thing with the other situation that we went through 1221 01:07:18,220 --> 01:07:21,060 in 2020. Like we pushed it so hard trying 1222 01:07:21,060 --> 01:07:23,310 to help them. I'm like a nurse. 1223 01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:25,230 I'm reading JAMA studies. I'm talking to you. 1224 01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:26,710 I'm telling you what I'm learning. 1225 01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:28,790 Like I'm telling you the things I'm hearing. 1226 01:07:29,110 --> 01:07:31,630 I'm telling you all this stuff and you're still not listening 1227 01:07:31,630 --> 01:07:33,870 to me. And it was like battling. 1228 01:07:34,030 --> 01:07:36,550 And finally I just said to my husband, let them do what 1229 01:07:36,550 --> 01:07:39,230 they're going to do because it's you're you're preaching to 1230 01:07:39,230 --> 01:07:41,470 somebody that's not going to change their mind. 1231 01:07:41,950 --> 01:07:46,150 And same thing for the church. They're not going to be the ones 1232 01:07:46,190 --> 01:07:48,830 that change their mind. But maybe I can help somebody 1233 01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:54,480 else, you know, God spared me for a lot of reasons. 1234 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,840 I think it both in near death experiences and in this whole 1235 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,440 situation. And I'm so grateful that I feel 1236 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,320 like I have to speak it like some people don't. 1237 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,800 It would be easy for me to not. I never wanted to do podcasting. 1238 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,280 I never knew how to do this like it would be. 1239 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,380 It was so weird. That's what I was thinking, you 1240 01:08:15,380 --> 01:08:19,020 know, for you to have gone through all of this and to 1241 01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:25,819 continually put yourself through it on top of remaining in Utah 1242 01:08:25,819 --> 01:08:30,540 like it, it seems like not too many people are going to choose 1243 01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:34,460 the least. He's the path to live, you know, 1244 01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:36,500 like it. Surely it can't be. 1245 01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:40,100 I mean, because there's got to be no escape from it like so. 1246 01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:45,100 Are there other? Like, are there Catholic 1247 01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:48,540 churches, Baptist churches? Are there other denominations of 1248 01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:52,140 Christianity in Utah? Or is it kind of, I mean, I know 1249 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:56,220 it's predominantly a Mormon state, but like it's be it's, 1250 01:08:56,779 --> 01:09:00,300 it's changed leaps and bounds. So in the small, I'm in a not 1251 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:03,620 small city, but like not a big city either. 1252 01:09:03,620 --> 01:09:07,270 It's kind of in the middle and we do have a non denominational 1253 01:09:07,270 --> 01:09:10,550 Christian Church. Now we do have a Catholic Church 1254 01:09:11,109 --> 01:09:13,630 and I remember when it went up because they put it right by a 1255 01:09:13,630 --> 01:09:15,990 Mormon church and it just ticked all the Mormons off. 1256 01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:18,950 But they have a church on every corner. 1257 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:22,710 You you know it literally there is a church almost. 1258 01:09:22,710 --> 01:09:26,350 It's a joke, but it's real. Almost every block we have ALDS 1259 01:09:26,350 --> 01:09:29,830 church and now what they're doing, oh they're so sneaky. 1260 01:09:29,830 --> 01:09:32,189 It bothers me. My husband showed me on the 1261 01:09:32,189 --> 01:09:34,029 maps. Oh, look, it's little friend. 1262 01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:38,270 My husband showed me on the maps and you know, the the Mormon 1263 01:09:38,270 --> 01:09:41,350 churches used to be shown with the Angel Moroni blowing the 1264 01:09:41,350 --> 01:09:44,350 trumpet. And then the Christian churches 1265 01:09:44,350 --> 01:09:47,510 or Catholic churches or Baptist churches were shown with a cross 1266 01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:49,189 because Mormons don't like the cross. 1267 01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:51,430 They'll never wear a cross and they don't like the cross. 1268 01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:56,030 And so my husband went on the little map thing the other day 1269 01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:59,190 and he's like, you know, they changed them all to crosses. 1270 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,760 And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah, all the LDS 1271 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,160 churches now or have crosses on them on Google Maps. 1272 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,960 And I was like, that is so not OK because they're probably 1273 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,360 getting people that have no clue. 1274 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,560 And then they're already in it. And like I said, it's great 1275 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,400 until you go to a certain level. And I guess if you really buy 1276 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,480 the kool-aid and you're a person that's like, yeah, I think this 1277 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,640 is great no matter what, they probably are really happy with 1278 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,640 their decision and doing all that stuff. 1279 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,680 But like, they're not going to go learn anything, you know, So 1280 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,680 they're welcoming, they're helpful now, they're leading 1281 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,400 probably people to the church that were just regular 1282 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,000 Christians looking for a normal Christian Church, so. 1283 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,800 Are there are there like for every physical separate church 1284 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,560 building? Is there a a a a temple? 1285 01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:55,380 For that church building, there's they do it by the 1286 01:10:55,380 --> 01:10:57,900 population. So like in the city I live in, 1287 01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:01,140 there was never a temple here. We had to go to Ogden. 1288 01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:04,220 Ogden's a little closer. Like there's Salt Lake and then 1289 01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:07,620 there's like Davis County and then there's Ogden, which is 1290 01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:10,820 Weber County. So in Salt Lake County, they had 1291 01:11:10,940 --> 01:11:15,020 the big temple that's been there forever since Brigham Young and 1292 01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:17,180 all that then. And it started. 1293 01:11:17,180 --> 01:11:19,020 They started popping up everywhere. 1294 01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:21,860 There's all these little towns about every 15 miles. 1295 01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:25,420 And now they have one halfway through to my town. 1296 01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:27,900 They have one in my town. They have one in Ogden, which is 1297 01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:30,540 10 miles away. They have one in Logan. 1298 01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:33,260 I mean, they they have them just, it's all dependent on 1299 01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:35,100 population. So if you have a certain amount 1300 01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,940 of population, they'll build a temple there. 1301 01:11:37,180 --> 01:11:39,740 And actually they built it right down from my grandma's old 1302 01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:41,620 house. She would have been so happy if 1303 01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:45,990 she were still alive. Oh, I wasn't. 1304 01:11:46,110 --> 01:11:49,030 I wasn't at all. I was like, oh, but. 1305 01:11:49,390 --> 01:11:51,990 Yeah, Ogden's a big deal in Hell on Wheels. 1306 01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:54,270 You'll oh Ogden. Yeah. 1307 01:11:54,430 --> 01:11:57,510 And Ogden had a temple there, and they're redoing all of them 1308 01:11:57,510 --> 01:12:00,910 right now, which there's a complete grid system underground 1309 01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:04,870 in Salt Lake and I believe in Ogden as well, which is. 1310 01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:08,030 Where the transcontinental railroad came to completion. 1311 01:12:09,470 --> 01:12:12,860 I think it was infernal, but I don't know for sure like 1312 01:12:12,860 --> 01:12:18,140 Promontory Point or no. Yeah, but it's all close by and 1313 01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:21,380 there is a big rail station that has like all kinds of old 1314 01:12:21,380 --> 01:12:24,300 fashioned stuff at the Ogden rail station. 1315 01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:29,180 But it it's wild to me how much like it's changed. 1316 01:12:29,180 --> 01:12:32,980 The temple used to be like in only in big cities, bigger 1317 01:12:32,980 --> 01:12:34,980 cities. Now they're making all of them 1318 01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:38,740 like pop up everywhere. And they, I mean because they 1319 01:12:38,740 --> 01:12:42,340 know they are big preppers, I will say that they have a really 1320 01:12:42,340 --> 01:12:46,500 good basis for like end of the world type prepping. 1321 01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:49,620 They'd really push that. So I'm assuming it's going by 1322 01:12:49,620 --> 01:12:51,820 the signs of the times that they're building more and more 1323 01:12:51,820 --> 01:12:57,700 temples, you know, but I don't know for sure. 1324 01:12:57,940 --> 01:13:00,980 I'm not in anymore, but I know they're everywhere now and they 1325 01:13:00,980 --> 01:13:05,460 didn't used to be. They're popping up and you can't 1326 01:13:05,460 --> 01:13:07,140 go in there. Like if you tried to go in 1327 01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:11,300 there, like they would arrest you, like you can't go in there. 1328 01:13:11,380 --> 01:13:15,220 You can visit the temple grounds and they decorate them really 1329 01:13:15,220 --> 01:13:19,860 pretty at Christmas, but you cannot go to the temple and it's 1330 01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:22,020 surrounded by gates and everything. 1331 01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:24,020 You can't fake it either. Everything's not. 1332 01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:27,020 They're not dumb. They got digital now. 1333 01:13:27,020 --> 01:13:31,220 Everything's digital. You can't mess around. 1334 01:13:31,220 --> 01:13:33,950 You won't get in there, only people. 1335 01:13:33,950 --> 01:13:37,070 The only people that have gotten in there to help like break this 1336 01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:40,830 all open is people that stayed, members that didn't believe in 1337 01:13:40,830 --> 01:13:43,950 it and they were like those Google Glasses and they like 1338 01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:47,190 recorded the whole thing. That's where some of those 1339 01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:51,670 pictures came from that I sent you is from people that went 1340 01:13:51,670 --> 01:13:55,030 undercover. That's how bad you got to do it. 1341 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:58,390 You got to like become it like and it takes at least a year and 1342 01:13:58,390 --> 01:14:02,190 a half so. So if I were to just pop up. 1343 01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:06,170 To the to the church and say, hey, I want to join your church. 1344 01:14:06,170 --> 01:14:09,170 It would take me about a year and a half to book to. 1345 01:14:09,650 --> 01:14:15,050 I'm even even thought about getting to the temple part of 1346 01:14:15,890 --> 01:14:20,810 That's crazy because you have to be a member for a full year, and 1347 01:14:20,810 --> 01:14:25,250 then so whatever date you got baptized, then after that year, 1348 01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:27,330 they have to go through and make sure you're doing everything 1349 01:14:27,330 --> 01:14:29,490 you're supposed to. So you're supposed to be, and 1350 01:14:29,490 --> 01:14:32,230 their rules are. Some of their rules are good. 1351 01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:36,430 They're supposed to be. Re baptized under their thing to 1352 01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:38,670 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 1353 01:14:38,670 --> 01:14:40,230 They don't baptize people to God. 1354 01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:42,190 That's exactly the words they say. 1355 01:14:42,670 --> 01:14:46,430 You are now baptized as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of 1356 01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:48,390 Latter Day Saints. They don't baptize you to 1357 01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:49,710 baptize you to God. See, I could. 1358 01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:52,430 I feel like I should get a past because I was baptized in the 1359 01:14:52,430 --> 01:14:55,270 Church of Christ. We just don't have of the Latter 1360 01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:57,230 Day Saints. I mean, I figure we're all 1361 01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:59,770 Latter Day Saints, ain't we? They don't. 1362 01:14:59,810 --> 01:15:02,770 They don't think that they're. They're no. 1363 01:15:02,970 --> 01:15:06,650 And it's all like recorded, like it's all digitalized and they 1364 01:15:06,650 --> 01:15:10,130 know everything, like, and to get your name off of the 1365 01:15:10,130 --> 01:15:12,770 records, like, if you don't want to do this anymore and you want 1366 01:15:12,770 --> 01:15:15,450 to be done, you can't just call up and be like, I want my name 1367 01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:17,770 taken off. No, you got to go through, you 1368 01:15:17,770 --> 01:15:20,970 got to sign like an affidavit. You got to go through a whole 1369 01:15:20,970 --> 01:15:22,690 big thing. And they still count all those 1370 01:15:22,690 --> 01:15:27,900 people as people in the church, like people like me, that I I'm 1371 01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:30,500 not going to take the time, 'cause I figure eventually 1372 01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:32,980 they're going to catch wind of my podcast and they'll 1373 01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:35,100 excommunicate me and then it won't take so long. 1374 01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:38,580 That's what I would. Let it be their problem. 1375 01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,220 Yeah, I'm like. They'll expedite the process for 1376 01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:42,340 you? Yeah, 'cause then. 1377 01:15:42,340 --> 01:15:43,900 Otherwise they're going to fight me on it. 1378 01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:45,980 So I'm like, I'm not going to fight them on it. 1379 01:15:45,980 --> 01:15:46,820 What? Do you mean they're going to 1380 01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:49,560 fight you? That they try to make you go to 1381 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,800 a Bishop's appointment and they make you, like, come in and talk 1382 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,000 with them? And I'm. 1383 01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,560 I'm not doing that. Yeah, I'm not doing it. 1384 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,280 So I'm like, you know what? You guys can just find out on 1385 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,240 your own and kick me out, 'cause that sounds a whole lot easier. 1386 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,920 That's so insane. So, so as of right now they just 1387 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,360 think that like you just like dipped out? 1388 01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:13,880 She's AWOL. Yeah, yeah. 1389 01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,140 But they know. And they send the missionaries 1390 01:16:18,140 --> 01:16:20,020 sometimes, and I tell them straight to their face. 1391 01:16:20,020 --> 01:16:22,820 So I'm shocked. I haven't been, like, kicked out 1392 01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:25,300 yet because when the missionaries show up, I'm like, 1393 01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:27,420 I'm an apostate. I don't believe in it and I 1394 01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:30,380 don't. I don't like an apostate means 1395 01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:32,540 like I'm against you. Yeah. 1396 01:16:32,620 --> 01:16:37,220 But like, would that be like telling, telling Ronald Weasley, 1397 01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:41,620 hey, I, I, I'm a Death Eater? That level of like, are they 1398 01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:44,420 just like, filled with dread or is it like they're? 1399 01:16:45,220 --> 01:16:48,380 Immediate need to just save you on this fight. 1400 01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:51,860 Probably some saving because they're actually out in the 1401 01:16:51,860 --> 01:16:55,060 mission field to save people. But I've told them before, I'm 1402 01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:57,460 like, don't come at me with your stuff. 1403 01:16:57,860 --> 01:17:01,760 I'm like, you're nice and I'll let you use my bathroom, but 1404 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,720 don't come at me with your crap. Like, I know everything. 1405 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,080 And my husband sometimes will mess with them because he's, 1406 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,040 he's naughty. He'll be like, they'll be like, 1407 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,720 can we share a word with you today? 1408 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,040 And he's like, can I share a word from the Bible with you 1409 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,080 today? And they're like, yeah. 1410 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,080 And so he'll like, give them the Bible verse. 1411 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,160 And they're like, I've never heard that one before. 1412 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,920 And I was laughing because I I was like one of the main ones. 1413 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,560 I can't remember. And I was like, what? 1414 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,200 And he's like, yeah, they never heard it before. 1415 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,760 And he cracks me up. I won't do it. 1416 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,960 I don't like playing the game. Game. 1417 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,560 I'm not rude, but I'm like I'm an apostate. 1418 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,640 You can't teach me anything. I know everything that there was 1419 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,560 to know. I did it all and I am saying 1420 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,600 it's completely evil and they just look at me like I'm going 1421 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,040 straight to hell. So. 1422 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,440 So what would what would your advice be to anybody that that 1423 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,560 might encounter A missionary or two knocking on their door? 1424 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,630 They don't. You know, they could be from 1425 01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:56,510 whatever background, but they don't. 1426 01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:58,790 They don't want to talk to them, they don't want to let them in, 1427 01:17:58,790 --> 01:18:00,190 but they don't want to just be rude. 1428 01:18:00,190 --> 01:18:04,710 What what do you suggest do do remember that those people are 1429 01:18:04,910 --> 01:18:09,630 like children. They're either 18 or 19 or they 1430 01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:13,110 only go till they're 21 or 22 Max. 1431 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:16,770 So be kind. If they get enough door slammed 1432 01:18:16,770 --> 01:18:19,330 in their face, I'm still a Christian at the end of the day. 1433 01:18:19,330 --> 01:18:22,050 Like the one girl the last time she was like, I really got to go 1434 01:18:22,050 --> 01:18:24,770 to the bathroom and I'm like, oh, I would never make somebody 1435 01:18:24,770 --> 01:18:26,970 not go to, like, you can use my bathroom. 1436 01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:29,330 Like what? Like, that's fine. 1437 01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:33,050 You know I just don't want to hear your message and if you 1438 01:18:33,050 --> 01:18:37,280 need something or if I can help you with something, great 1439 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,640 because maybe I'll be the one Christian they remember didn't 1440 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,720 do that. Like I'm I'm always hopeful to 1441 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,920 help people out. Just like we can't be, we always 1442 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,040 have to be shepherds, too, you know, we're we're fighting a 1443 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,200 battle against something that they don't even understand 1444 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,600 because they've probably been, like I was my whole life, 1445 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,300 indoctrinated since you were born, and we can't blame them, 1446 01:19:01,460 --> 01:19:03,180 you know? So a lot of times I would, I 1447 01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:04,900 would just say there's going to be nothing. 1448 01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:08,100 I don't want to hear, like your full message. 1449 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:11,260 I think it's great you think that this is something you're 1450 01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:14,540 convicted to do. You should really put the time 1451 01:19:14,540 --> 01:19:17,500 into reading the Bible. I would always encourage people 1452 01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:21,660 just 'cause they don't, they don't read the Bible, and I 1453 01:19:21,660 --> 01:19:24,540 don't think they get it enough. And that's why my husband does 1454 01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:26,660 that. He also is a smart aleck and 1455 01:19:26,660 --> 01:19:28,620 he's also a redhead. And they're full of it. 1456 01:19:28,980 --> 01:19:31,700 But. I think that's a good point 1457 01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:37,980 though that you make because like if they if you still treat 1458 01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:42,940 them like with respect as like a human being and again like 1459 01:19:43,180 --> 01:19:45,620 you're being a good Christian and maybe even you mentioned 1460 01:19:45,620 --> 01:19:47,020 like you know I'm I'm a Christian. 1461 01:19:47,020 --> 01:19:49,260 I'm you know you're more than welcome to use my bathroom. 1462 01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:52,020 Can I get you some water? Can I get you know, send you on 1463 01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:53,980 your way with something, whatever the case may be, but 1464 01:19:54,180 --> 01:19:56,580 later on down the road if they end up. 1465 01:19:58,550 --> 01:20:01,070 Like you and they start realizing like this is not the 1466 01:20:01,070 --> 01:20:02,990 way to go. They'll probably remember you 1467 01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:06,030 and be like you know that Lady was very, very very kind to me. 1468 01:20:06,030 --> 01:20:09,270 Super nice and and. Not, not everybody's just going 1469 01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:12,710 to throw you out on their tail like a like a salesman, you 1470 01:20:12,750 --> 01:20:15,430 know? And that's my big thing, is the 1471 01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:19,310 whole reason why I started this podcast, which I didn't start 1472 01:20:19,310 --> 01:20:22,070 this podcast. I went on a show with Josh 1473 01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:27,150 Monday and then I went on two more shows with Josh Monday and 1474 01:20:27,150 --> 01:20:29,390 after that. And he was like, you know, 1475 01:20:29,390 --> 01:20:32,310 people listen to you a lot. You probably should share your 1476 01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:35,790 stuff because that Mormon show got a lot of hits. 1477 01:20:35,790 --> 01:20:39,070 He's like, I'm talking like 5000 hits or some crazy number. 1478 01:20:39,070 --> 01:20:41,710 And I was like, what? And then he was like, you should 1479 01:20:41,710 --> 01:20:45,070 probably just think about it. And I I was like, you got to be 1480 01:20:45,070 --> 01:20:47,870 crazy. Like, I I I didn't even want to 1481 01:20:47,870 --> 01:20:50,790 go on the show because I'm a nurse and I'm just this. 1482 01:20:50,910 --> 01:20:56,270 I was very normie until 2020 and I didn't really feel like my 1483 01:20:56,270 --> 01:21:00,070 stuff was like important to share, I guess like I did the 1484 01:21:00,830 --> 01:21:02,750 well. But when you're going, when 1485 01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:05,470 you're like a normal person, you're like, no, nobody's going 1486 01:21:05,470 --> 01:21:07,310 to listen to you, you know what I mean? 1487 01:21:07,790 --> 01:21:11,910 Like, I don't know. And then the more people that 1488 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:15,430 I've talked to, they're like, no, this is crazy. 1489 01:21:15,470 --> 01:21:17,670 Like, no, nobody talks about this. 1490 01:21:17,670 --> 01:21:21,730 You should talk about it. And so I felt convicted to do 1491 01:21:21,730 --> 01:21:23,090 it. I prayed a lot about it. 1492 01:21:23,090 --> 01:21:25,890 I didn't just snap into it real fast and silly. 1493 01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:29,690 Like, I prayed so much about it because I'm like, OK, is this 1494 01:21:29,690 --> 01:21:31,890 going to help people? Because ultimately that's all I 1495 01:21:31,890 --> 01:21:34,010 care about. Like, is this going to help 1496 01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:38,170 people or not? And I felt so strong about it 1497 01:21:38,570 --> 01:21:41,370 that I was like, OK, I guess we're going to do this. 1498 01:21:41,530 --> 01:21:44,930 Like, I never thought I'm. I've never wanted to be. 1499 01:21:44,930 --> 01:21:49,090 I never thought I'd be. I just, I was like, OK, I guess 1500 01:21:49,090 --> 01:21:51,970 we're doing this. Well I can honestly say I've 1501 01:21:51,970 --> 01:21:57,410 never turned on a show that you were on and have been bored or 1502 01:21:57,410 --> 01:22:02,890 disappointed with the show because you it's just I didn't 1503 01:22:02,890 --> 01:22:06,010 want to bring you on here and then talk to you about the exact 1504 01:22:06,010 --> 01:22:09,770 same thing that you go and you talk to on Sunday night or you 1505 01:22:09,770 --> 01:22:13,490 go and talk to on Red Pill cartel or wherever else you show 1506 01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:16,570 up. I I I'm really glad that you 1507 01:22:16,570 --> 01:22:19,490 sent me the pictures that you did ahead of time and. 1508 01:22:20,010 --> 01:22:22,770 Actually had something you wanted to because I didn't know 1509 01:22:22,770 --> 01:22:24,690 what we were going to talk. I mean I didn't know what we 1510 01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:26,650 were going to do. And I was this has been amazing 1511 01:22:26,650 --> 01:22:28,410 because I've never heard anything. 1512 01:22:28,930 --> 01:22:32,890 You know it the way that you have shown the parallels between 1513 01:22:32,890 --> 01:22:36,970 Masonic, you know rituals and Mormon rituals. 1514 01:22:36,970 --> 01:22:40,610 Like there for a minute if you don't have a background history 1515 01:22:40,610 --> 01:22:42,820 of. You know the Mormon faith that 1516 01:22:43,060 --> 01:22:45,660 the blinds get blurred there. For a minute I was like, wait, 1517 01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:47,060 are we still talking about Mormons? 1518 01:22:47,060 --> 01:22:48,660 Or are we talking about you're like? 1519 01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:50,500 Masons again? Like, I don't know. 1520 01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:54,140 I don't know what to do with my hands over well and the Mason 1521 01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:55,580 shakes. Like, we didn't even get into 1522 01:22:55,580 --> 01:23:00,550 that, those those handshakes, Joseph Smith made them into that 1523 01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:04,030 they're actually the signs. And so he changed them. 1524 01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:08,390 So like the sure sign of the lion's paw, he changed to the 1525 01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:11,310 sure sign of the nail. So he made them. 1526 01:23:11,310 --> 01:23:13,470 He just tweaked it just a little bit. 1527 01:23:13,630 --> 01:23:15,430 But it's the same exact sign and. 1528 01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:20,750 Are there different grips with the different levels of what do 1529 01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:22,910 you what do you call them? A level ascension? 1530 01:23:23,230 --> 01:23:25,190 You have to know these ascension. 1531 01:23:25,230 --> 01:23:30,190 So to pass, they believe that the veil is guarded by angels, 1532 01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:33,670 Sentinels that know these handshakes, and they are 1533 01:23:33,670 --> 01:23:37,270 identical to the Mormon handshakes that we get. 1534 01:23:37,670 --> 01:23:40,910 And then we have a guy that puts his hand through this little 1535 01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:44,270 curtain and you have to do the handshake with him, and then you 1536 01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:46,790 do it again and again to the other handshake. 1537 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:50,510 And then if you don't know those or the name of it, then you 1538 01:23:50,510 --> 01:23:54,550 can't pass by into fake heaven. So, like, at the end, the whole 1539 01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:59,980 thing is like a play to get to heaven so that you do it over 1540 01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:02,900 and over and over so you know those signs and symbols when you 1541 01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:05,740 die, and then they give you a new name. 1542 01:24:06,260 --> 01:24:11,500 And my name I told to my husband my name was Abigail, which I 1543 01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:13,820 shouldn't tell anyone. But this is all. 1544 01:24:13,820 --> 01:24:16,700 I refuse to hold secrets. Like a lot of Mormons like 1545 01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:20,310 Mormon Stories in the Mormon Podcast, they they say we're not 1546 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:22,510 going to talk about it because of of respect. 1547 01:24:22,510 --> 01:24:26,310 And I understand their position. My position is I will refuse to 1548 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:29,510 keep anything in the dark because I'm helping people into 1549 01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:31,790 the light. I'm not going to keep things in 1550 01:24:31,790 --> 01:24:36,710 the dark that are crap because God put me here and This is why 1551 01:24:36,750 --> 01:24:40,310 and and that's what I'm doing. So if I don't come out with it, 1552 01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:42,670 then I don't even need to be here. 1553 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:45,870 Like, I mean, you know, entertaining or not, I'm trying 1554 01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:49,430 to save people's souls from like, necromancy and weirdo 1555 01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:54,030 stuff. So anyway, you give your name to 1556 01:24:54,030 --> 01:24:56,950 your husband, he he will go through the veil. 1557 01:24:56,950 --> 01:25:00,030 He gives the little signs and the handshakes to the guy. 1558 01:25:00,030 --> 01:25:03,910 He goes through the veil and they ask him his name and that 1559 01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:06,590 that guy's God, Fake God behind the veil. 1560 01:25:06,910 --> 01:25:10,470 And so he gets pulled through. And guess who calls my name? 1561 01:25:10,630 --> 01:25:15,110 Not God? My husband, because he is my 1562 01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:20,110 God, right? And so and I'm not like one of 1563 01:25:20,110 --> 01:25:23,350 those women that are not like, I believe in the Bible and I 1564 01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:26,390 believe the man should still be the head of the household. 1565 01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:30,270 And in a lot of ways. But like, we still do everything 1566 01:25:30,270 --> 01:25:32,830 together. Like he's the head in a certain 1567 01:25:32,830 --> 01:25:36,870 way, like biblically or if there's a major decision and we 1568 01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:39,910 really differ on it, OK. But he's always going to listen 1569 01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:42,870 to me because he loves me like Christ loves the church. 1570 01:25:43,410 --> 01:25:47,970 So he loves me enough to know that if I feel strongly, I'm 1571 01:25:47,970 --> 01:25:50,570 going to be not happy. So we make every decision 1572 01:25:50,570 --> 01:25:54,090 together, which people make this so weird and they're like, well, 1573 01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:56,410 you have to bow to your husband and you have to bow to 1574 01:25:56,410 --> 01:25:58,090 patriarchy. And it's not. 1575 01:25:58,090 --> 01:26:01,330 It's not that in the Mormon Church, it is that though they 1576 01:26:01,330 --> 01:26:04,810 do put that over on their wives and they say I'm the priesthood 1577 01:26:04,810 --> 01:26:09,090 holder, your 12 year old son has more authority than you do. 1578 01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:11,250 Yeah, No. Fuck that. 1579 01:26:11,690 --> 01:26:14,240 Yep. Your 12 year old, any boy that 1580 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,520 has the priesthood, he has more than I have. 1581 01:26:17,480 --> 01:26:21,400 And so at 12 years old they get their first stuff and he has 1582 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:24,840 more than I got. And so if I'm sick and I need a 1583 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,520 blessing where by the way they're real loosey goosey on 1584 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,640 the laying on of hands, which in the Bible it says be real, real 1585 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,520 careful about laying on of hands. 1586 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,360 You don't just want to throw that around. 1587 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,130 They do that when you're sick. They do that when you're you 1588 01:26:40,130 --> 01:26:43,650 know need help with something. They do it all the time and then 1589 01:26:43,650 --> 01:26:45,690 they give you a special blessing. 1590 01:26:45,690 --> 01:26:47,450 I've I haven't mentioned this in other ones. 1591 01:26:47,450 --> 01:26:51,410 I don't think they get they have a patriarch in your in your 1592 01:26:51,410 --> 01:26:56,370 church and they give you a prophesying blessing and tell 1593 01:26:56,370 --> 01:27:01,090 you what tribe of of whatever you're from like all the Mormons 1594 01:27:01,090 --> 01:27:05,450 are from the tribe of Ephraim. So, like, but if you were brown, 1595 01:27:05,450 --> 01:27:08,970 I bet you'd be like the tribe of, you know, Lehigh because he 1596 01:27:08,970 --> 01:27:11,460 was darker. Whatever. 1597 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:14,020 You know what I mean? So they tell you what one of the 1598 01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:17,220 12 tribes you're from and they give you this blessing on your 1599 01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:19,140 life. And they say, like, you'll go 1600 01:27:19,140 --> 01:27:21,620 on, you'll have kids, you'll do this, you'll do that. 1601 01:27:21,620 --> 01:27:23,140 Like it's fortune telling almost. 1602 01:27:23,220 --> 01:27:25,380 And they anoint you with oil to do this. 1603 01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:29,180 And it's like super private and I can't find mine. 1604 01:27:29,180 --> 01:27:31,980 I looked everywhere 'cause I was like, I'm bust this out. 1605 01:27:32,060 --> 01:27:34,860 Maybe I should get a copy before they throw my ass to the curb. 1606 01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:41,020 But because they'll send it to me, but I'm like, you know, that 1607 01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:45,140 seems so weird, like when it says all over the Bible, you're 1608 01:27:45,140 --> 01:27:48,380 not supposed to do future telling stuff like that. 1609 01:27:48,660 --> 01:27:50,940 So why are why are they doing that? 1610 01:27:51,180 --> 01:27:55,400 You know they put this blessing on kids when they're like 16 and 1611 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,560 you're talking about their whole future and how you should be 1612 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,520 strong in the church and strong in the. 1613 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,080 And a lot of it's basic, I'm sure just like my special name. 1614 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,920 I thought my name was super freaking cool. 1615 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,120 I was like, Oh yeah, I got this cool name And then I'm like, 1616 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,800 what if you forget your name? And then I'm, I talked to my 1617 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,000 grandma and she's like, oh, don't worry, you just call and 1618 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,600 tell the temple what day you went through and they'll know 1619 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,160 what your name is. I'm like why she's like, cuz all 1620 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,680 of them got the same name that day. 1621 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,240 I'm like, oh, OK. That is so crazy. 1622 01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,440 It's almost like a way to keep tabs on you. 1623 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,320 Yep. And well, the Masons, Masons get 1624 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,760 new names when they go through. So it it's very You should talk. 1625 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,960 You should show your Mason friend like this episode and a 1626 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,440 couple of my episodes and just see his face and be like, 1627 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:50,360 because a lot of the Masons I've talked to are like, what? 1628 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,870 Like they're just blown away. You should. 1629 01:28:53,870 --> 01:28:56,630 I think you should link up with Thomas from The Paranoid 1630 01:28:56,630 --> 01:28:58,710 American All right. Yeah, 'cause. 1631 01:28:58,710 --> 01:29:00,590 He's an, he's an active, I believe. 1632 01:29:00,790 --> 01:29:02,670 Oh, so he'll know. He's an active Mason. 1633 01:29:02,670 --> 01:29:05,070 Is, is he? Oh, wow. 1634 01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:08,430 He's he's a practicing Mason, so he'll know. 1635 01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:11,120 He'll know the stuff. That'd be amazing because I 1636 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,920 haven't been able to be on with one. 1637 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,680 I've talked to one, but they're like, this stuff is secret. 1638 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:21,040 I'm not, I'm not going to go on in your show and I'm like, OK 1639 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,680 and the OTO stuff, I looked out and found out because Patriot 1640 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,600 went on. So I'd love to link up with 1641 01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,440 somebody on the Mason side because he was an OTO member. 1642 01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:33,720 He was, it was more crawly stuff, but it was still similar. 1643 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,680 And I'm like, how come we're doing devil worship stuff in 1644 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:37,640 there? Like what? 1645 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,480 Who knows, I might get the wild hair up my ass and I might go 1646 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:45,160 join. My local just to just to and I'm 1647 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,560 too old to care about that now this was this was you know 10 1648 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,200 almost you know dozen years ago when I was young and. 1649 01:29:54,610 --> 01:29:56,610 Still cared about what other people thought. 1650 01:29:56,610 --> 01:29:59,650 Now, if some old man wants to look at my crusty ass, he's more 1651 01:29:59,650 --> 01:30:04,250 than welcome. I've seen so many naked people. 1652 01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:06,730 I think if I ever saw something like that, I would walk in and 1653 01:30:06,730 --> 01:30:08,570 be like, oh, they're not dressed. 1654 01:30:08,690 --> 01:30:11,610 What 'cause I'm a nurse. I like that kind of party. 1655 01:30:12,130 --> 01:30:14,250 Yeah. I've seen more naked people than 1656 01:30:14,250 --> 01:30:15,970 I can count. My kids are always laughing 1657 01:30:15,970 --> 01:30:18,440 about that. I'm like, I don't care if 1658 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:20,440 somebody showed up streaking. I'd laugh. 1659 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,240 Yeah, do it. That would be awesome. 1660 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,200 That would be the best. Because I guarantee you ain't 1661 01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,200 nobody around here listening to me talk on a podcast. 1662 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:39,680 Just a second. Oh man, this I'm just. 1663 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,480 Mind blown. Truly just. 1664 01:30:44,830 --> 01:30:47,710 I'm just thinking about everything she's, she's said 1665 01:30:47,710 --> 01:30:51,590 since we started and I'm just wow guys there. 1666 01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:53,870 Yes, ma'am. Yeah, that's a lot. 1667 01:30:53,870 --> 01:30:58,150 Every once in a while, every once in a while, my earphones 1668 01:30:58,150 --> 01:31:01,830 like to play this game that they aren't connected anymore and I 1669 01:31:01,830 --> 01:31:03,710 have no idea why it doesn't. So. 1670 01:31:04,150 --> 01:31:07,950 You hook up your earbuds, just you Bluetooth them to your 1671 01:31:07,950 --> 01:31:09,750 computer. Uh Oh no. 1672 01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:11,750 I'm losing sound. What? 1673 01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:14,470 I mean, that's what I do. Hold on. 1674 01:31:14,900 --> 01:31:17,140 Bluetooth, One of my earbuds to the laptop. 1675 01:31:18,180 --> 01:31:22,180 See, I when my my brother built me this computer, but I don't 1676 01:31:22,180 --> 01:31:26,020 think he put in a like a Bluetooth transmitter or 1677 01:31:26,020 --> 01:31:29,420 receiver or else I would be doing the exact same thing. 1678 01:31:29,420 --> 01:31:31,580 But I might have, I might have a fix to that. 1679 01:31:31,580 --> 01:31:34,740 So I want to. Well, I was using some 1680 01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:41,180 headphones, but the the the headphone Jack on the laptop 1681 01:31:41,180 --> 01:31:46,690 just shitted out on me one day. So I had no choice but to use 1682 01:31:46,690 --> 01:31:49,010 Bluetooth. Yeah, that's smart. 1683 01:31:49,010 --> 01:31:52,570 My I hang my headphones right over my little boom right here 1684 01:31:52,570 --> 01:31:54,810 and my cats fucking play with it at night. 1685 01:31:55,050 --> 01:31:57,690 Bro, I thought that when that happened, I thought that I 1686 01:31:57,690 --> 01:32:00,530 thought the show was going to be done for a while until I could 1687 01:32:00,530 --> 01:32:04,410 buy a new laptop. Because, you know, I didn't. 1688 01:32:04,410 --> 01:32:07,250 It took me like AI had to sit there and really put my CRO 1689 01:32:07,250 --> 01:32:11,030 Magnum and thinking cap on and. Scratch around for a minute and 1690 01:32:11,150 --> 01:32:13,790 I was like, how dumbass? OK, I need a Bluetooth receiver. 1691 01:32:13,790 --> 01:32:16,150 What were you saying? I need a what? 1692 01:32:16,150 --> 01:32:18,150 What? A Bluetooth receiver. 1693 01:32:18,350 --> 01:32:21,030 Oh yeah, yeah, sorry. You you. 1694 01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:23,150 I think you lot you lost hearing us. 1695 01:32:23,150 --> 01:32:24,790 But yeah, no, I'm. I need to get a Bluetooth 1696 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:28,030 receiver. I have one that I use when I 1697 01:32:28,030 --> 01:32:30,710 used to game, I would plug it into so I can connect my 1698 01:32:30,710 --> 01:32:33,630 controller to my laptop. So I think I might be able to 1699 01:32:33,630 --> 01:32:37,500 use that to make it work. Work but but my PC doesn't have 1700 01:32:37,500 --> 01:32:39,300 a. It was built by my brother so it 1701 01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,380 doesn't have a Bluetooth like transmitter so. 1702 01:32:42,620 --> 01:32:45,340 Dude, I bet there's a way you could buy buy something like you 1703 01:32:45,340 --> 01:32:48,140 could put it into a USB port. Yep, that's all. 1704 01:32:48,140 --> 01:32:50,180 That's all it takes. That's all it takes. 1705 01:32:50,180 --> 01:32:52,420 I have. I have one, It's an Xbox One, 1706 01:32:52,420 --> 01:32:55,780 but I still think it would work. I actually have two of them, 1707 01:32:55,820 --> 01:32:57,500 just in case one of them takes a shit. 1708 01:32:57,500 --> 01:32:59,140 But I'm gonna give that a try cuz. 1709 01:33:00,340 --> 01:33:02,060 But I do. I like this better, like I was 1710 01:33:02,060 --> 01:33:04,640 using like the big. When I first started, like the 1711 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,360 big old honky headphones and you know, that was cool. 1712 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,160 But I always have issues with the cords and I think 1713 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,560 bluetooth's just the way to go. Yeah. 1714 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,080 Keep it simple, yeah, that was some good shit. 1715 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,680 I'm about a month out from getting my Christmas bonus, so 1716 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,880 I'm hopefully going to be getting a new computer, so I'm 1717 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,720 looking forward to that. My computer's new, but boy, this 1718 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:31,520 is being naughty right now. I'm thinking for are you using 1719 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,720 a? I keep losing hearing. 1720 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,440 Are you? One thing that I was thinking 1721 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:43,400 of, Hank, is that when I get my taxes back, I really, there's a 1722 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,280 lot of things I've been like, should we get like a Nikon 1723 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,680 P-1000, like? All this stuff but I'm. 1724 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,320 I'm thinking, I'm thinking like an iPad would be dope because 1725 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,280 you can do all your podcasting. Especially the newer iPads are 1726 01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,600 bad ass because. If I had it set up and if I move 1727 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,280 over here, it'll automatically the camera will automatically 1728 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:05,920 find me. Oh really? 1729 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,000 If that makes sense, yeah, it's pretty fucking cool. 1730 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,840 I remember Catalyst saying went back when I first met him. 1731 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,240 He was saying he did his pod from a from a laptop or a. 1732 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:16,400 IPad. MacBook. 1733 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:23,640 Yeah, Yep, Yep, we shall see. Heidi, can you hear? 1734 01:34:25,250 --> 01:34:27,690 I might get a minute. I don't know what's going on. 1735 01:34:27,850 --> 01:34:29,770 I'm. I'm waiting for it to behave 1736 01:34:29,770 --> 01:34:32,930 itself. I'm hoping it will. 1737 01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:34,810 I'm so sorry. No, you're fine. 1738 01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:38,050 It's You are completely fine being crazy. 1739 01:34:39,530 --> 01:34:43,490 I've never had it be this bad. Like it's always. 1740 01:34:45,010 --> 01:34:49,790 It's always worked after I reset it, but of course if something 1741 01:34:49,790 --> 01:34:52,470 can't go wrong, it will go wrong 'cause we were on fire for a 1742 01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:55,110 minute. Hey, Heidi, if it makes you feel 1743 01:34:55,230 --> 01:34:56,830 any better, that's how it goes, right? 1744 01:34:57,550 --> 01:35:01,750 That's that Mormon FBI agent getting mad at you and messing 1745 01:35:01,750 --> 01:35:05,470 with you, all right? Yeah, no kidding. 1746 01:35:05,470 --> 01:35:06,910 We were talking about demons there. 1747 01:35:07,790 --> 01:35:10,150 I think we were just about at the end anyways. 1748 01:35:12,150 --> 01:35:15,430 We were doing. Hank and I did a show with. 1749 01:35:18,170 --> 01:35:21,930 Troubles from Paranoid Radio. He's also someone you should 1750 01:35:21,930 --> 01:35:24,810 reach out to. And we were in the middle of 1751 01:35:24,810 --> 01:35:27,810 recording, everything was going great and then I get a little 1752 01:35:27,810 --> 01:35:30,770 thing on my Zoom saying I have 5 minutes left and I'm like what 1753 01:35:30,770 --> 01:35:35,570 the fuck? So I go, I go to pay my bill and 1754 01:35:35,570 --> 01:35:40,090 I owe Zoom like over 200 bucks and I I'm not fucking going to 1755 01:35:40,090 --> 01:35:40,930 pay it. How? 1756 01:35:41,290 --> 01:35:44,530 Do you know Zoom? Because what what had happened 1757 01:35:44,530 --> 01:35:48,340 was, is. I kept like when I fired up 1758 01:35:48,340 --> 01:35:51,900 Zoom, I would get these little things saying hey failed to 1759 01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:53,940 process payment. So I'm like what the fuck? 1760 01:35:54,420 --> 01:35:58,940 So I would go into the settings and it says that my subscription 1761 01:35:58,940 --> 01:36:03,700 is still active. So what it did was for 10 months 1762 01:36:03,740 --> 01:36:06,780 it was allowing me to keep going without paying and. 1763 01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:09,060 That's their fault. And then I know. 1764 01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:11,180 And I I couldn't figure out because I'm I'm looking at my 1765 01:36:11,180 --> 01:36:12,500 bank. I'm like, I'm not seeing the 1766 01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:15,100 1499 come out every month. I don't know what's going on. 1767 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,520 And Long story short, yeah, it all caught up to me. 1768 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,000 So now I now I use Stream yard because I'm. 1769 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,640 Not paying. The two I'm not paying that 1770 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,240 $200.00. It's not happening. 1771 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,360 Yeah, I would just I was going to ask you why you switched 1772 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,920 because I I do zoom but I don't, I don't love some of the ways it 1773 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,200 is a little difficult sometimes especially to add your intro 1774 01:36:37,650 --> 01:36:40,770 like when you're going on to add intro or whatever and I might 1775 01:36:40,770 --> 01:36:43,690 just change it so it dips right in like how you guys do like the 1776 01:36:43,690 --> 01:36:45,250 intro to the show at the beginning. 1777 01:36:45,250 --> 01:36:48,730 I I have like a little video thing, but I'm not in love with 1778 01:36:48,730 --> 01:36:50,850 it that much. It drives me crazy sometimes. 1779 01:36:51,050 --> 01:36:53,330 Well, I like stream yards. I want to start doing like 1780 01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:55,330 monthly. I want to do like one monthly 1781 01:36:55,330 --> 01:37:00,030 show live. So it'll be it'll be streamed on 1782 01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:02,710 like Twitch and and wherever else. 1783 01:37:02,710 --> 01:37:05,030 So I think that'd be that's kind of one of the reasons why I'm 1784 01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:06,790 I'm using it and it's I'm still paying. 1785 01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:09,750 I think I paid. I think I'm paying 20 bucks a 1786 01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:11,710 month for it. But you can do so much like 1787 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:15,270 crazy shit. But then again you have to look 1788 01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:17,430 at I don't even know how to do this. 1789 01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:20,710 You have to look at how many people are watching your podcast 1790 01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,350 or how many people are listening. 1791 01:37:22,350 --> 01:37:25,430 Because if most people listen and for Hank, Hank just does 1792 01:37:25,470 --> 01:37:29,570 audio, which is totally fine. So it doesn't matter the 1793 01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:33,930 platform, you might as well go with the cheapest route, right? 1794 01:37:34,130 --> 01:37:37,810 You know, but with the zoom. With the zoom, you can upload it 1795 01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:41,250 to Spotify, but then Spotify won't let you do ads until you 1796 01:37:41,250 --> 01:37:43,930 get to some ungodly amount of listeners. 1797 01:37:43,930 --> 01:37:46,930 Like in a month? No, you just got to have 100 1798 01:37:46,930 --> 01:37:49,290 listens a month. Oh really? 1799 01:37:50,490 --> 01:37:54,770 And and I'm I don't even, I don't even have 100 followers 1800 01:37:54,850 --> 01:37:59,110 and I'm able to do ads. We've actually been slacking the 1801 01:37:59,110 --> 01:38:01,590 last two months. I need to actually, after we get 1802 01:38:01,590 --> 01:38:05,550 done recording, I'm probably going to record the ad read so 1803 01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:08,190 that we can. Because we made like one month, 1804 01:38:08,190 --> 01:38:11,670 we made a whopping like 50-8 cents, right? 1805 01:38:13,070 --> 01:38:16,550 It's not a money builder, but it's for sure to like offset. 1806 01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:20,190 Like I I went in to try and do it and I had like hundreds of 1807 01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:24,620 listens in like a month and and they were like, no, you don't 1808 01:38:24,620 --> 01:38:26,820 qualify for ambassador ads, blah blah blah. 1809 01:38:26,860 --> 01:38:27,900 I. Think you have to wait? 1810 01:38:28,220 --> 01:38:31,260 It has to be. Like consecutive months. 1811 01:38:31,260 --> 01:38:32,820 Or so. It's weird, It's weird. 1812 01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:36,180 But you I guarantee you right now, like I can almost guarantee 1813 01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:39,780 you, that you have it 'cause you you got more than I do for sure 1814 01:38:39,780 --> 01:38:40,580 it. Was weird. 1815 01:38:40,580 --> 01:38:42,780 I don't. I don't know how I would even go 1816 01:38:42,780 --> 01:38:48,580 about adding a audio to my show because I use. 1817 01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:54,300 Or adding visual to the show because I just use the audio 1818 01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:58,300 software audio editing software. That's how I build my show. 1819 01:38:58,300 --> 01:39:02,820 I'll let, I'll let this. Download from Zoom and then I'll 1820 01:39:02,820 --> 01:39:05,660 run it through a converter program and then I could put it 1821 01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:09,460 into this other program and put my intro in and mess with the 1822 01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:12,380 audio and then put my outro on it and send it out. 1823 01:39:12,380 --> 01:39:15,740 But I don't think the only intro, yeah the only thing that 1824 01:39:15,740 --> 01:39:18,300 is ever a problem is the freaking intro. 1825 01:39:18,300 --> 01:39:21,420 Like otherwise you can drag it, it's a drag and drop for the 1826 01:39:21,420 --> 01:39:24,020 video, you just take it and pop it in there. 1827 01:39:24,380 --> 01:39:26,500 But then you got the intro problem. 1828 01:39:26,500 --> 01:39:30,060 Like today, when I'm releasing today, it's not going to have my 1829 01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:32,540 intro on it because of this very reason. 1830 01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:35,660 I'm like fine, whatever we can do as a shortcut. 1831 01:39:36,340 --> 01:39:41,700 We can do on a future. On a future day we can do a a 1832 01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:44,740 zoom meeting and I'll share my screen and I'll show you how to 1833 01:39:44,820 --> 01:39:47,940 easily do an like it is. Freaking easy. 1834 01:39:48,340 --> 01:39:51,260 Yeah 'cause I'm having issues with it and I'm like, this is so 1835 01:39:51,260 --> 01:39:54,060 stupid. Like, people send me files and 1836 01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:57,020 sometimes it'll be from stream yard or wherever. 1837 01:39:57,380 --> 01:40:01,210 And like it came as an MP4, but it came as a shortcut and so 1838 01:40:01,210 --> 01:40:04,130 that that and I could have contacted and gone through that 1839 01:40:04,210 --> 01:40:07,290 and I didn't want to like bother them, you know what I mean? 1840 01:40:07,810 --> 01:40:11,210 It's kind of like you don't want to make it their problem, you 1841 01:40:11,210 --> 01:40:13,610 know what I'm saying? Cause a lot of my podcasts right 1842 01:40:13,610 --> 01:40:18,250 now are like share podcasts, because I literally can't do 1843 01:40:18,650 --> 01:40:23,250 anymore, 'cause I'm doing 2 a week since I started shows. 1844 01:40:23,810 --> 01:40:27,250 And that's a lot for me because I work and have the kids. 1845 01:40:27,250 --> 01:40:28,410 I don't know. I know Kyles. 1846 01:40:28,410 --> 01:40:30,290 Crazy he does. I don't know how many. 1847 01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:34,370 You're doing me and Kyle kind of got our plates full because I 1848 01:40:34,370 --> 01:40:39,650 try to do 2 episodes a week just on the on my 643 and then me and 1849 01:40:39,650 --> 01:40:43,650 Kyle have holistic roots. And we try to get a show win at 1850 01:40:43,650 --> 01:40:46,810 least once a week, and then he's got Sunday night. 1851 01:40:48,010 --> 01:40:50,530 And I feel bad because Kyle's always there for me. 1852 01:40:50,530 --> 01:40:53,570 Whenever I need Kyle to jump on, he's always there for me. 1853 01:40:53,570 --> 01:40:56,290 But I'm never able to be there for him because he wants to 1854 01:40:56,290 --> 01:40:58,690 start it like night time for him. 1855 01:40:58,690 --> 01:41:01,890 And by the time that he starts, like I've got like 30 minutes 1856 01:41:01,890 --> 01:41:03,330 till my wife says we're going to bed. 1857 01:41:03,330 --> 01:41:06,610 And when the warden says it's time to go, night, night. 1858 01:41:07,090 --> 01:41:09,170 You go night time. You don't want to miss. 1859 01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:10,730 You don't want to miss night time. 1860 01:41:12,170 --> 01:41:15,850 Mr. Mr. Freeze's daughter as he. Yeah, I I might. 1861 01:41:15,850 --> 01:41:17,930 I might end up having to sleep on the couch or something. 1862 01:41:17,930 --> 01:41:21,210 She'll take up the whole bed. Oh no. 1863 01:41:21,210 --> 01:41:23,050 Oh dude, I'm freezing right now, dude. 1864 01:41:23,050 --> 01:41:25,010 Like, it's not even 70 degrees outside. 1865 01:41:25,010 --> 01:41:26,450 She's still got the air conditioner on. 1866 01:41:26,810 --> 01:41:29,250 If it was just me in here, I wouldn't have the air on. 1867 01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:33,050 I wouldn't have no fan on. But no, we got to have it all 1868 01:41:33,050 --> 01:41:35,930 going. Mr. Freeze, you guys are doing a 1869 01:41:35,930 --> 01:41:38,050 lot of shows, then a week. Holy crap, we're. 1870 01:41:38,610 --> 01:41:43,190 We don't always hit our marks, but yeah, that's why I noticed 1871 01:41:43,190 --> 01:41:46,190 you don't put out like this is out now. 1872 01:41:46,190 --> 01:41:48,350 You just let him out. I'm like, holy cow. 1873 01:41:48,350 --> 01:41:49,950 Kyle's like ripping him out there. 1874 01:41:49,950 --> 01:41:54,030 Well, I so I I kind of dude, I've been slacking, man. 1875 01:41:54,030 --> 01:41:57,350 Like I have been doing shows, but like as soon as I'm done, 1876 01:41:57,350 --> 01:42:00,310 especially if I'm doing like a night show, as soon as it's done 1877 01:42:00,310 --> 01:42:03,590 recording or in in in the files upload, I put my headphones on 1878 01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:05,950 and I'm done. And then I'll do that like three 1879 01:42:05,950 --> 01:42:08,470 or four times and I'm like, fuck, I haven't even put any of 1880 01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:11,290 these episodes out. So just the other day when I 1881 01:42:11,290 --> 01:42:14,570 went in and corrected that your name changed, I was like, I'm 1882 01:42:14,570 --> 01:42:15,810 already fucking sitting down, dude. 1883 01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:17,650 I might as well just start cranking them out. 1884 01:42:17,650 --> 01:42:19,570 So I have another one I just did with Legit Bath. 1885 01:42:19,570 --> 01:42:24,450 That was fucking awesome. That'll be coming out here in a 1886 01:42:24,450 --> 01:42:26,290 couple of days. But I like to kind of bank them 1887 01:42:26,290 --> 01:42:30,650 and save them because of shit happens during the week and 1888 01:42:30,650 --> 01:42:33,410 someone cancels or whatever. I still have a show to put out, 1889 01:42:33,410 --> 01:42:35,370 so it's. See, I wish I had me a couple in 1890 01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:39,100 my back pocket I could whip out. I have some back pocket. 1891 01:42:39,140 --> 01:42:42,300 But the thing about mine are all like how he was saying, I'm glad 1892 01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:45,260 this show didn't do that, but a lot of times they want to know 1893 01:42:45,260 --> 01:42:49,300 certain things and then you're doing very similar stuff for me, 1894 01:42:49,620 --> 01:42:53,220 'cause I'm interviewing on other people's shows, I'm not having 1895 01:42:53,220 --> 01:42:56,820 people on my show yet because there I have no time left. 1896 01:42:56,820 --> 01:42:59,780 Like, I'm, it seems like I'm doing them all the time or 1897 01:42:59,780 --> 01:43:01,940 trying to upload something or doing something for it. 1898 01:43:01,940 --> 01:43:06,300 And I'm like, I got kids, so we homeschool and all that. 1899 01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:10,340 Well, it's like Montessori, but they require a lot more there. 1900 01:43:10,380 --> 01:43:13,820 So like you have to go shop or only you have to do things. 1901 01:43:13,820 --> 01:43:17,420 So I'm like, oh, that's how it's going to be for now, I guess. 1902 01:43:19,180 --> 01:43:21,700 Oh, well, I I jump on the Taverns. 1903 01:43:21,700 --> 01:43:25,740 Yeah, different Tavern shows that you guys do. 1904 01:43:25,820 --> 01:43:31,340 You know are are they does I know you you were on on Friday, 1905 01:43:31,340 --> 01:43:34,090 right Hank? No, I wasn't able to make it. 1906 01:43:34,770 --> 01:43:37,610 No. We've been having our hot water 1907 01:43:37,610 --> 01:43:42,410 heaters pretty much shit the bed and between that and we we had 1908 01:43:42,410 --> 01:43:45,370 one kid that decided that they were going to become the devil 1909 01:43:45,370 --> 01:43:48,930 Incarnate this weekend and I had to work all day Saturday so I 1910 01:43:48,930 --> 01:43:50,730 didn't get to go hop on the Tavern. 1911 01:43:50,730 --> 01:43:54,610 I wanted to he he invited me on. I was wanting to be there for 1912 01:43:54,610 --> 01:43:58,570 for ghost return to the Tavern, but I was unable to oblige. 1913 01:43:59,010 --> 01:44:01,050 I'll be on there again soon though, I'm sure. 1914 01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,320 It was. It was pretty early though. 1915 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,440 It was earlier than normal. I think It was what? 1916 01:44:06,440 --> 01:44:08,880 Was it? 430 your time, yeah. 1917 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:13,400 See, I wouldn't have even. I would have been two 2 1/2 1918 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,600 hours late to it anyway because I get off work at 4:30 my time. 1919 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,880 Yeah, I I didn't get invited to the one this week. 1920 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:25,000 But then Davey invited me to 1, and then I was already on the 1921 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,900 Christian 1. The coalition withdrew. 1922 01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:31,580 I was like, I'm. Sorry, I've got to listen to 1923 01:44:31,580 --> 01:44:34,820 that one. See, I I I'm, I'm glad IA lot of 1924 01:44:34,820 --> 01:44:37,900 people drop stuff during the weekend that I that I follow 1925 01:44:37,900 --> 01:44:41,940 because by Friday I have no podcast to listen to. 1926 01:44:42,460 --> 01:44:46,180 I've been burnt through everything from the week and and 1927 01:44:46,180 --> 01:44:49,700 so it gives me a nice little Monday and Tuesday. 1928 01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:51,940 I'm like yeah, because I'm while I'm at work. 1929 01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:54,780 That's all I'm doing is listening to podcasts while I 1930 01:44:54,780 --> 01:44:56,310 work. That's what I do. 1931 01:44:56,510 --> 01:44:59,350 One ear bud, one ear. And getting on down the road. 1932 01:44:59,910 --> 01:45:02,550 And everybody knows just when when when you're at work with 1933 01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:04,190 Hank, you just got to speak up a little louder. 1934 01:45:04,190 --> 01:45:06,550 He can hear you. He he'll hear you. 1935 01:45:07,670 --> 01:45:09,830 I just tell him to give me the signal I'm. 1936 01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:13,590 Mine and whoever. And look at folks in their face 1937 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:15,470 listening to three people talk at once. 1938 01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:20,230 Hey, your wife, your wife probably appreciates all that 1939 01:45:20,230 --> 01:45:22,030 multi. Well, no, I don't play those 1940 01:45:22,030 --> 01:45:27,430 games around her, she, But it teaches you to multitask other 1941 01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:30,270 things, so that's good. Yeah, because guys. 1942 01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:33,190 Sometimes, I mean, I used to be. I used to not listen to podcasts 1943 01:45:33,190 --> 01:45:38,070 like, but it wasn't too far, too too long before I started mine 1944 01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:40,550 that I even got on the podcast wagon. 1945 01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:43,550 Like it might have been 4-3 or four months before I started my 1946 01:45:43,550 --> 01:45:47,190 show that I even jumped on the train and. 1947 01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,320 I was a music guy. Like, even now there's a song 1948 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,560 playing in the back of my head while we're having this 1949 01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,720 conversation. Like the jukebox is just always 1950 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,080 on. And I just reached a point where 1951 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,400 I was at work, I was like, I cannot listen to fucking music 1952 01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,600 anymore. There's only so much Pandora and 1953 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,480 music out there. Like, I've listened to it all. 1954 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,760 I listened to it all. So I was like, let's give 1955 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,840 podcast a try. And then that led to. 1956 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,400 Me being so interested in stuff that me and my original Co host 1957 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,000 started one up. They're like, here we are. 1958 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,640 And it's it's been about what that was April so that was 1959 01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,960 January fair and white. So that's four wearing what this 1960 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:33,520 is 10, so half a year later and here we are. 1961 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,280 Wild Ride started from recording off of our phones. 1962 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,840 So that's how I did too, with my kids Puzzle Light. 1963 01:46:43,050 --> 01:46:48,370 Yeah, I was like, OK, that's my first episode with Josh. 1964 01:46:48,450 --> 01:46:51,370 In fact, I didn't stop recording off my phone forever. 1965 01:46:51,890 --> 01:46:54,450 And actually, in some respects it's easier. 1966 01:46:54,650 --> 01:46:58,290 I can share photos really good. Especially if you're using the 1967 01:46:59,970 --> 01:47:02,700 well, I imagine. You could use Zoom on your phone 1968 01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:05,500 too, but when we first started we were just using the Spotify 1969 01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:08,020 for podcasters app. We were just recording straight 1970 01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:10,940 from that app and then you didn't have to worry about 1971 01:47:10,940 --> 01:47:14,020 converting or you just hardly had Zoom. 1972 01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:19,180 You had you had one editing tool and that was like crop cropping 1973 01:47:19,180 --> 01:47:25,180 ends off of it or you could enhance the audio. 1974 01:47:25,300 --> 01:47:27,700 That's what it said, but there was no. 1975 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,920 Fine tuning the audio, there was no none of the converting it 1976 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,760 from none of that. It was just all right there on 1977 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,080 the app and you uploaded it right there from your phone. 1978 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,320 It was really easy. But when you do, when when 1979 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,840 you're using the Spotify, because I still use Spotify for 1980 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,400 podcasters to upload my shows, but doing it from the laptop, 1981 01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:54,920 you get so much more abilities as far as. 1982 01:47:56,260 --> 01:48:00,140 With the show notes and and the when you want to insert ad 1983 01:48:00,140 --> 01:48:02,980 breaks and all that stuff. I insert ad breaks to every 1984 01:48:02,980 --> 01:48:05,940 show, and I've never heard one single ad play on my show 1985 01:48:05,940 --> 01:48:10,660 outside of the Do you want to start a punk hand like I'll put? 1986 01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:12,580 Six. I'll put six or eight. 1987 01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:17,260 You know, I'll put 322 AD breaks, you know, 32AD AD breaks 1988 01:48:17,260 --> 01:48:20,380 throughout a show, depending on how long it is or whatever. 1989 01:48:20,380 --> 01:48:22,700 But when I listen back to it, I'd never hear them. 1990 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,320 Like, I'm not getting paid for anything. 1991 01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,760 Like I was only getting paid for the Ambassador ad. 1992 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,960 So I don't know. I still think I'm still missing 1993 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,080 something, but that's what I think I'm. 1994 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,920 I'm just always confused about how it works. 1995 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:40,040 So I'm like, I don't qualify for Ambassador and I've never seen 1996 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,200 anything else. So I was like. 1997 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:45,640 I never started this to make a dime, but no but to cover the 1998 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,240 cost it. Would be. 1999 01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,040 It'd be. It'd be nice if it paid for the 2000 01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,520 the zoom cost each month. Yeah, not even anything big, 2001 01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,240 just something small like that. I mean, and I'm not knocking on 2002 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,840 people that are able to pay bills off of it because, I mean, 2003 01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:02,160 if people wanted to, you know, felt so obliged to help me pay 2004 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:06,480 some rent around here or or towed this grocery bill for 2005 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:09,120 these bottomless pits. Of kids of I have. 2006 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:10,800 But you know, I I wouldn't complain. 2007 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,400 But that's not why we started this. 2008 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,640 No, no, I don't think that's why anybody does it. 2009 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,040 That stays in it anyway. There's only a few elite people 2010 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:22,760 that get that many ways that you're making big money. 2011 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,640 I think people think it's a lot different than what it really 2012 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:26,560 is. You know? 2013 01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:31,240 It's kind of funny. All right, well, my kids are 2014 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,000 jumping on me. They're saying let's. 2015 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,960 Do let's go we're before. We wrap this up. 2016 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,080 Why don't you let everybody know where they can find you? 2017 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,220 Miss Heidi? Yes, I am at Unfiltered Rise and 2018 01:49:42,220 --> 01:49:46,100 I'm everywhere where any of the podcasts are serviced. 2019 01:49:46,260 --> 01:49:50,100 Apple, Spotify, all the other ones as well. 2020 01:49:50,500 --> 01:49:54,180 And I'm at unfilteredrise@gmail.com. 2021 01:49:54,180 --> 01:49:56,500 If you have a story you'd like to share with me, I'm on 2022 01:49:56,500 --> 01:50:00,340 Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. I think I've covered them all at 2023 01:50:00,380 --> 01:50:02,900 this point. Yeah. 2024 01:50:03,180 --> 01:50:05,020 Thank you enough for coming on today. 2025 01:50:05,140 --> 01:50:08,680 You have just. I'm going to be dwelling on what 2026 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,960 you dropped today for a few days. 2027 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:12,520 Like I'm probably, it'll probably be Thursday and I'll 2028 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,840 text Kyle and be like, dude, think about this and it'll be 2029 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,720 something that we talked about today. 2030 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,120 Like, you have blown my mind. Like, I'm really going to start 2031 01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,560 doing some deep, deep diving into it just for myself if you 2032 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,960 haven't listened to the two Josh Monday episodes. 2033 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,520 Because it breaks it down with pictures like what they're doing 2034 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,040 in each photo. So it's kind of nice to, like, 2035 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,100 put it with each thing, because back then I wasn't, and now I 2036 01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:40,580 just do it, 'cause I know. But back then I was real scared. 2037 01:50:40,580 --> 01:50:45,500 So I was very regimented. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed 2038 01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:50,180 everything that you brought for us today and you have a open 2039 01:50:50,180 --> 01:50:51,980 invitation. Anytime you want to come back 2040 01:50:52,180 --> 01:50:54,900 on, you're more than welcome. Awesome. 2041 01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:57,940 Well, I definitely will probably be taking you up on that. 2042 01:50:57,940 --> 01:51:00,980 So I appreciate it. And Kyle too. 2043 01:51:01,380 --> 01:51:03,740 Hopefully I'll be seeing you on another one. 2044 01:51:04,860 --> 01:51:07,140 Absolutely. Brother, let them know where 2045 01:51:07,140 --> 01:51:08,620 you're at. Let me know, yeah. 2046 01:51:08,620 --> 01:51:10,260 Oh yeah, yeah. Sunday night. 2047 01:51:10,260 --> 01:51:11,860 We're at Sunday night. Come check us out. 2048 01:51:11,860 --> 01:51:14,740 We're everywhere. Holistic roots, come check us 2049 01:51:14,740 --> 01:51:16,580 out. Stay fly. 2050 01:51:16,580 --> 01:51:20,860 Stay blessed, you know. Holistic Holistic Route Discord 2051 01:51:20,860 --> 01:51:22,260 server. Berlin. 2052 01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:24,500 Yeah. Yeah, We're going to do that. 2053 01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:25,460 Yeah. Yeah, actually. 2054 01:51:25,580 --> 01:51:27,340 I might even do. That today? 2055 01:51:27,580 --> 01:51:29,100 Yep. I might even do that tonight. 2056 01:51:29,820 --> 01:51:32,560 That's a good idea. So we'll be, we'll be spreading 2057 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,200 that around. Because I almost set it up 2058 01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,320 yesterday after work. I was bored and I was like, Nah, 2059 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,040 I better get better. Give a call. 2060 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,400 Hey, either or man. Either or either or. 2061 01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:46,520 This is, this is a. Anyhow, I don't know what I was 2062 01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:48,360 going to say. It's like, yeah, it'll be fun. 2063 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,200 It'll be fun. And then even a ID. 2064 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,400 If you ever want to hop on there and talk some holistic stuff, 2065 01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,520 that'd be dope. Yeah, absolutely. 2066 01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:56,590 That sounds good to me. All right. 2067 01:51:56,830 --> 01:51:57,670 Well, thank you. Yeah, brother. 2068 01:51:58,150 --> 01:52:00,230 Thank you. Yeah brother, I'm thank you for 2069 01:52:00,230 --> 01:52:01,670 coming on with me, holding it down. 2070 01:52:01,670 --> 01:52:04,110 Like I said, you might as well be a permanent Co host of the 2071 01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:06,390 show at this point. I'll take it. 2072 01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:07,950 I'll take it. All right. 2073 01:52:08,030 --> 01:52:10,350 Ladies and gentlemen, we thank y'all for sticking with us to 2074 01:52:10,350 --> 01:52:12,990 this point of the episode. We love y'all and as always, 2075 01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:14,110 we'll catch y'all next time.