All right, welcome back, everybody.
Here we are with the lovely Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise
podcast and myself, Drew missing.
If you're missing the point, we're gonna have to call this
little collaboration the Unfiltered point, I think
because we're we're diving into some books.
On this and it's not. It's not an Oprah's Book Club
over here. We're really digging into the
minutia of our chosen books today and sharing with the
people and hopefully we've picked some some groundbreaking
information that hasn't been looked into too much by other
people. So how you going, Heidi?
It's been a little minute since I've seen you last time.
Yeah, it's not too, too long. Of course, I can't really see
Drew because he lives in the land of spiders that are like
cars, so I can't go there because I'm afraid.
But yes, it's nice to be here, nice to be back.
We've been planning this for a minute so that we could read our
books, and I was already knee deep in this one, so it worked
out well. Thank you.
No problem. Well, let's start off.
Maybe we can. We can tell the audience about
who the author is, what the book is, the maybe a bit of
background. I forgot them about the author
and why we chose our chosen books and ladies first by all
means. Awesome.
So this book, hopefully everybody oh that light can see
it. OK.
This is called the Messiah in ancient America because this is
a little off the shelf banned the person got excommunicated
book from the church. And so the author unfortunately,
as I've said, lost his faith after this.
Go figure. Every time you deep dive, but
I'm bum bum, you kind of leave. And so sadly, but this Messiah
in the ancient America is not who you might think it is.
That's right back in the 1960s when this guy started all his
research, which is actually really in depth and and pretty
good, but also doesn't jive with the DNA.
The church wasn't counting on DNA.
They like the family genealogy, but the DNA.
So yeah, it kind of messes everything up later.
So Warren Ferguson is who this is by and he says in this book
that Quetzicodol is Jesus Christ, that the Mormons believe
this. So they threw a lot of money at
this. They threw a lot of money for
archaeology at this and it gets interesting and when I so yeah,
it's. Only a hop, skip and a jump away
from, you know, Abraxas the chicken snake God to a feathered
serpent God. Really.
That's right. That's right.
But we're not waiting to delight them.
What I was gonna say, weren't the the gods of the Omecs, of
the Aztec and the Inca all white and delight themselves?
So aren't they just kind of buying their kind of religious
belief systems air quotes into the existing ones of the the
Americas and using that as a. Well, and it was supposed to
support the Book of Mormon because I don't know if people
know this. So if you've never seen me
before or you don't know a lot about the Book of Mormon, it is
basically like they say, OK, the Bible took place over there and
that's their story, right in Jerusalem and all this and well,
many places, but in the Middle East.
And then so this is a book in the Americas for what happened
here and how they got here from over there in the Middle East
and and all this whole story about it, right?
And so. That's the new New Testament.
Yes, yes. And so they want it to be
proven. And they used to prove it with
genealogy and they they've never had one single piece of
archaeology ever, not just in this book, just in general that
has ever supported their claims. Because don't forget now Drew
the Angel needed those plates so he had to get them back was a
timeline thing. It's like a library card.
It was due. He needed them back and so they
went back up to heaven and all the artifacts as well.
So I I particularly like the part where all the the angels
were Native American and the people that were in the Americas
were turned that color because they were the bad tribes of
Israel. Well, and not only that, but the
angels might have been Native American, but they had been
elevated into white Native Americans, so don't forget that.
Who's this famous white? Native American Indian, What's
the what's the name of that? Maroon Guy.
Who's the senator that says she's Native American?
Do they all look like her? Oh.
I don't remember that. Oh, I don't know.
But this one is the one atop all of the temples.
And remember, how could he be an Angel if he's a dead guy?
Just have questions here. Yeah, I have some questions.
And so, you know, it kind of gets them really in trouble.
And I'll give away the good part of the last here.
Eventually with all of this book study and all of these like
archaeology things and everything, they were going down
with this whole Mesoamerican tie, which we'll get into.
But eventually there's this other guy named Simon Sotherton
or Sotherton. I'm not sure how he he says it.
He goes bananas crazy when DNA comes out and he's like, I'm
going to prove the Book of Mormon is true because he was
like this whole Mormon guy and, and he's super excited about it.
And these aren't idiots like the guy that did this book.
He's like a big lawyer in Oakland and all that stuff.
So these aren't like completely uneducated people.
I mean, idiots, who knows. But I'm just saying they're not
derelict in, in knowledge, at least in some level.
And so this guy, he's like, I'm going to prove it.
You know, I'm going to tie all this together and the church was
like, shut it down. Like, I'm not playing with you.
Shut it down because I'm assuming they knew about DNA
because they're in the CIA and stuff, you know, way before it
comes out. And they were like, you better
stop or we're going to excommunicate you.
And it becomes this huge thing because the guy was like, no.
And so he's like kind of trying to prove it but also be against
the Mormon church, which is weird.
I don't know what was going on there.
That never bodes well, right? And so he gets in trouble for
this. And remember, the people are
supposed to be from the Middle East and come here, and that's
the story. So what kind of blood should
they be like, not type like, what kind of heritage should
they like? What?
What ethnic gripple if you were to go off today's.
Just a generic. You would say it's like of the
Lavon region? Maybe some Mediterranean esque
style appearances? Right, Middle Eastern, right and
your blood grouping and your DNA, all this.
Stuff should be specific. Haplo group should be a haplo
group. That's the word.
And so I'm like, all right, you know, this shouldn't be rocket
science. And he does all this research
against the church. Even though they were mad.
He was like, I know that the Book of Mormon's true, and it's
gonna prove everything right. They were Asian because we know
that they were right. And all the whole land crossing
from Siberia. Yeah.
So it really screwed the church. So in the midst of them trying
to prove all this weird stuff and no archaeology, now we have
a problem with DNA as well. So that was fun.
He got in trouble. So I'm, I'm making a lot of
connections between like Mormonism and the whole idea of
the ancient America, like America's always called the new
world. And in, in recent years within
like conspiratorial realms and within on a revisionist history,
I'll call it, there's this big push to make America more
ancient than it actually is, more ancient than what the
artifacts say, more ancient than what the oral language stories
that the people say. And we get these weird
insertions from say, the Levant region, but we get it through
black Israelites where you get African Americans who want to
rewrite their history as they were the true Israelites.
They're native to North America and America was taken over from
them. We get this really strange
positions where people always want to have their group as the
chosen people or the people that are directly in lineage to God.
It's this scrambling to, of almost trying to be better than
everyone else, which seems just so counterproductive to what
modern day Christianity should be like.
Christ died for all our sins as long as we.
You think that's the path, right?
That old covenant is gone. It's out of here.
That's old news. Yes, and well, and the problem
with it all is this a do I think America is older than they say?
Do I think it is this weird story?
Nope. I actually, you know, I've been
digging into the Templars. Like we know there were Vikings
up through Nova Scotia and came down like we know not just them
either, right? There's native people, there's
Portuguese, there's all these people that are sailing all
over. Look, that's not a hard sell for
me. But you know, the black
Israelite thing, you know, maybe there were some people here that
were native to this region. I don't know.
But I don't think it's that, right?
That's something different. I think when you're talking
this, the scope of history and you try to tie it back to
biblical history, you're stopped with a a speed bump of the 6000
years and you've got people who are adamant 6000 years or 6000
years. But we're talking about
timelines that have changed over the history of humanity.
We record time differently to what they did in the past.
We don't know what God's timeline is and how he records
time. 6000 years to God may not be our 6000 years.
We complete, we track it completely different to what
ancient cultures did, let alone a God that's created the
universe. And we've got this weird
insertion of ancient must mean monolithic structures, huge
civilizations, flying cars, and all the trappings of an
Atlantis, when ancient could just mean hundreds of thousands
of years of habitation. And we get lost to, to your
point, in my book, they taught, they try to make the calendars
connect, right? They do this.
This is so much fun. And I have to tell you, you
know, I will say this for whoever wrote this book at the
end of it, it has some awesome pictures, OK.
It also teaches you a lot of things that are about
Mesoamerica, which is cool, you know, And there's a whole bunch
of just indexed information, whether or not it fits the
narrative, that's different. But that facts are the facts,
right? There's facts in this book that
they're trying to pull, like into the narrative, which isn't
really working too good for them.
But hey, you know, you hit right on one of the points, which was
they tried to mess with the calendar and say, oh, yeah, see,
this is part of the reason because the calendars align and
they knew about the Old Testament and this and this and
this. So yeah, you're not wrong.
Yeah. This, this is that that really
thing that that bugs me a little bit.
And I've worked harder in reading my book than I have any
other book because it's not just reading the book, it's reading
the claims and where they source their claims from.
Like you mentioned, they've got their facts and facts are facts.
And generally the facts are black and white, but where are
they sourcing them from? Can they be trusted sources?
Are are are we doing the legwork of actually checking the sources
themselves? Because a lot of people, they'll
read a book, say it's got an index and references, and
they'll go, Oh yeah, they'll just assume the author's done
their due diligence. When you're researching this
type of stuff, you can't leave it to chance.
I've done more work checking the sources than I have actually
reading the content of this book.
And this is. Where I think.
People in our people in our little world, they slip up and
they slip up big when they just trust something because it's in
print form. Not to say that everything's
misinformation by by any means. We know that history has been
rewritten. It's been toyed with, it's been
played with, but at the same time we have to make sure that
we're doing the right thing to make sure we're not just
spurting out a psyop that was written 60 years ago to inject
into our modern time. Yes, exactly.
And we know that. Look, we already know all this
stuff. Like we know Columbus wasn't the
first. Like they've even stopped doing
the day. Like, let's be realistic here.
We're not saying that we don't believe some of it, right?
But it's always too, Tristan, a lie.
It's always. Yeah.
And they'll feel it with facts. Oh yeah.
Yeah, you put 1 little mistruth in there and that's where the
the weed starts to grow. Oh yeah.
So I don't know if you want me to go in to this or if you want
to introduce your book first. Maybe better that way.
Which way do you want to do? Well, I might add mine in
because I think mine ties in yours a little bit.
Oh fun. I've chosen Commons Beaumont.
Oh, that up there written the key to world history.
This isn't really the first book you should dive into him with
his content. He's got a lot before this.
Commons Beaumont interesting little character.
And I came at this from the lens of, like I mentioned, for every
single group, every culture around the world seems to have
their own stories. And we see those common trends
every time we listen to a story. The biggest aspects of that
story tend to be the moral story behind it, the moral compass,
why you should live as a good person, why we do things.
The smaller details like names, objects, locations, they can
change over time, but the underlying message tends to stay
the same. That's why as conspiracy
theorists or revisionist historians, they make
connections between these stories that are that have
separated by hundreds of years or thousands of years and oceans
because it's the same underlying story over there.
Like I say, here's an example for you.
Heidi, Jack and the Bean stalk could easily be rewritten as
Heidi and the gigantic corn stalk where it involves a
network. Hey, Corn is in my story.
It takes place in Utah and the the the little dialectic of it
that you have to remember. The little narrative is beefy
foe fum. I smelled the blood of an exmo
mum. Hey, the story is good one the.
Story is practically the same. It's just a few little details
that have changed. The underlying moral of you
going out, getting some wealth for your family, coming down and
slaying the monster, that remains the same.
The details can change, but ultimately it's the exact same
story. And we see that through every
continent, every culture, every syllableization.
For my reasoning, I think it's a shared collective memory of
something happening. So the details, they they've
been adjusted. The story at its core is the
same. I think history tends to lend
itself through this, through mythology and culture.
We see these incidents entails they pop up again and again, and
I tend to think it's all coming back from one momentous
cataclysmic event, whether that was God flooding the Earth or if
you're a a interstellar body person, it could be an asteroid
hitting the earth and ending with the younger driest.
All these things can be at the center of the same event and I
think we're just looking at it from different angles, so.
Absolutely. The the big contentious issue
with all of this is though, is when does the location actually
matter? And the location actually
matters in these situations. It's crucial when you have a
chosen people linked to a specific geographical area.
And I kind of allude to this before where there's this
scrambling of a few little out there fringe groups would really
trying to make it that they're the true chosen people.
Like it matters. That's the old government.
It really doesn't matter now. But people are still scrambling
and going down the route of my ethnic groups better than your
group because we were chosen by God and my skin colour is
better. All this stuff is wasted now,
yet we're still fighting over it as a people, which is very, very
strange. So when we tie in these
amplified ideas of storytelling, when it links back to the Bible
and the origins of the Hebrews and the Black Israelite
movement, the Old World, America, the list goes on with
all these people that are coming to it.
Commons Beaumont takes it in a slightly different direction.
He'd links it back to Britain as being the region where the
geographical people come from. So he links the idea of.
The are they white and delight some too well.
They'd be Anglo, They're always trying Germanic people, so
they're always trying. So not trying to go a
confirmation bias on this just because I'm a white guy, but
I've never really heard of it from this perspective before
outside of Box Saga. And Box Saga is very rich and
compelling when it comes to linguistic analysis.
So I thought this was quite interesting in how this
gentleman came to this conclusion.
So I've got to give you a bit of background on this guy first.
Yours is from what? From what?
The 70s, correct? Yes, this guy's I think 19871987
but he started started stuff in the 60s this recently.
Cool, cool. This goes back way further.
So Commons. Beaumont, colorfully known as
The Rebel in Fleet Street, was a British author, lecturer, editor
and journalist at the Daily Mail.
Born in 1873, died in 1955. He was a man from a very
different time, a time when academia had a very different
perspective on the oranges of European culture.
But that all changed and I think we know that the world changing
event that caused that. A little mustache man from
Austria who liked to paint. Oh yeah, he loved his niece.
Yeah, his use of a certain term changed historical academia
forever, and I think we know that word is Aryan.
Aryan now is conflated with ethnocentrism and and racism and
all the the horrible trappings of humanity.
But it's an actual name that was given to prehistoric men of
Europe, men and women of Europe. It's they call them proto
Europeans now for the PC term. And he kind of tracks the the
Aryan peoples and how they apply to later stories that come
along. And he proposes that these later
stories are just recalling the same event, and they're
transcribing the locations and names to regional areas to suit
their people. And he leans heavily on Greek
culture for this. At his time in the early 30s,
Nineteen 40s, Greek culture, the Greco Roman was still seen as
the pinnacle of civilization for the West.
So he does talk about that quite a bit.
So it's quite intriguing, intriguing.
He published a series of books between 1932 and 1949, including
titles such as The Mysterious Comet, The Riddle of Prehistoric
Britain, The Great Deception, and the book that I'm going to
talk to you about today. Here's some of his more
extraordinary claims there, and I like to get your thoughts on
these. Of Nazareth was crucified
outside Edinburgh, Scotland, the site of ancient Jerusalem.
So the Scots of the the Scots of the Jews.
Yay for us. I mean, hey, I'm Irish and
Scottish. There we go.
Satan Satan was a comet that collided with Earth and caused
Noah's flood. How fun.
The ancient Egyptians were in fact Irishmen.
Hal can be found in western Scotland.
Well, there's a few places in Scotland that wouldn't want to
go without some protection. It's a pretty rough place.
The Greek hero Achille spent his child in the Isle of Skye,
Galilee. The birth place of Jesus was
Wales and ancient Athens is in reality Bath, England.
Oh boy, I I dare say I think the Mormons knew about this one.
Yikes. So again, we've got another,
it's a different perspective. Again, we've got someone from
Anglo, Celtic, Germanic, Northern European perspective
claiming that potentially those are the true chosen people.
And I only, I only bring this to our attention because it does
matter in the sense of geographics with a new covenant,
it doesn't really matter. But at the same time, we've got
whole swaths of people around the world who are pushing their
supremacy on the world based on their perceived genealogy.
And if that could be disproven, it makes things very
uncomfortable for the world. And I'm not saying.
It goes either way. This book was just an
interesting perspective to have a look at and consider a few
possibilities. Wow OK so was this Jesus
redheaded? Is this the one that I'm
thinking of? I've I've heard something about
a redheaded Jesus. I can't remember the story.
OK, well, that would make sense for a few things that I know of,
but that's that's weird. It sounds like he definitely
what what proof does he have of any of this stuff?
Like is he just pulling this out of his He's nowhere.
He's. Actually referencing a lot of
works of academia at the time. Now the problem with academia at
that time, there's been new discoveries since the 1930s and
40s. People have gone through the
linguistical drifts of stories and have kind of redirected them
to other parts of the world. So I think for the most part
he's trying to source himself well enough.
I haven't been able to get a hold of some of these sources
because they're not available on the Internet.
I'd actually have to go to Britain's and search through
some libraries to get them. For the most part he's trying
his hardest to retell the cataclysm of Noah and Atlantis
being the same event, which I don't think he's wrong in that
location could be very different.
I think this is more so a worldwide situation opposed to a
geographically located event. In the Bible it tells us the
world was flooded, but was it the world of the region that was
flooded as opposed to the world itself?
If you look at events that we now know of, like the end of the
younger driest period in which a comet impacted mile highs, ice
sheets in North America flash flooding most of the world's
coastline. That if you're a scientifically
minded person, which I am also, I don't throw the baby out the
bathwater. That could make sense for the
flood. And I, I, this is the thing that
becomes really hard for me as someone who's who's been an
academic and is very intrigued by the historical context of
this, is that science is the mechanism for understanding
God's creation. I think we have to use that in
line with Bible and Scripture. And if the Scripture backs it
up, not the other way around, then it works.
We don't take a piece of science, science data and then
go to the Bible. You have to go to the Bible.
OK, let's look at the world and let's look for that evidence.
And I think there's aspects of Younger Dryas which actually
aligned with that really well. So what is he inclined to on his
religion? Does he have a anything?
Is he biased? I think he's more of a he would
come across as someone who is agnostic at best.
I think he he could very quickly go into the realm of Gnosticism
because that's. What I was?
Wondering, searching for all the lost information, finding the
sources, which is a dangerous place to be at best.
I hope he's he was agnostic in this.
He does try to rename, reposition a lot of biblical
locations, but ultimately his main hypothesis of these
viewpoints is that the Greeks of the time he talks about were
limited by their geographical location in the world.
That was simply applying older stories that they'd heard and
had passed down orally to their regional area.
They were renaming places, renaming people.
So it fits their own culture and their time.
And it takes into account the movement of northern European
tribes, the Aryans, as we've discussed earlier, from far
north down into the Mediterranean, as opposed to the
Fertile Crescent out into the West, the rest of the world,
which aligns with what we're seeing in Agri architecture and
agricultural growth. It actually came from the steppe
region, then spread out and didn't start in the virtual
Crescent. So there's parts of history
which are coming to the forefront now, which are backing
up some of his original conclusions.
Where does his research really take him?
So here's some links and a few dot points that I've kind of
been looking at that just alarmed me that Atlantis in a
particular Finnish root language, which is connected to
Box Saga, means all land ice. And if you're coming from an
area in the world which either was wiped out from a flood in
the Great North or flash froze in the Great North, you'd be
forced to go South, you'd be forced to go for warmer areas
and you'd be forced to invade people.
I think that's the part of history we've always been told
the Vikings just raping and pillaging and going home.
They didn't do that in reality. They went to England, they went
to France, and they set up colonies.
They didn't go home all that often for a reason.
It's almost as if the lands they came from were becoming less
hospitable every day, and they knew it.
They were driven by sheer necessity.
And this kind of drives this story that he's telling, that
the Greeks were just regurgitating something that
their ancestors had passed on to them orally before any kind of
recorded written word was put down.
Wow. This gets interesting.
I think since we're deep in it,
we should just keep going with yours 'cause it, it's, it's hot.
It's it's going down that line, yeah.
I have a full word that I'd like to read.
It's a tad long, but I think it's worth it.
I've actually mentioned to you outside of the show that I'll
probably end up recording each of these chapters and putting it
out on my show and then maybe giving my thoughts on it at the
end. Like I said, not to be focused
on he's right or he's wrong, It's just good, something that's
good to consider and take on board because we're hearing all
these theories all the time and we don't want theories to
influence the actual belief systems.
Our belief systems should impact the way we're looking at
theories. We should be able to go straight
away. No, that's garbage because I
know from this aspect and in scripture that is backed up by
this historical account, whereas what you've given me is
revisionist history. And as they have a click bait,
we see it far too often. But being aware of it, just like
the occult, it's good to know the enemy's tools so you don't
fall for it. All right, This is the forward.
This volume is a companion to the work of the Riddle of a
Prehistoric Britain, in which I endeavoured to prove by evidence
gathered over wide field from ancient modern sources, the
British Isles were heavily civilized from the earliest
times. And indeed that Britain may be
proudly enthroned as the true and original mother of
civilization, I claimed on evidence produced that it
supposedly lost this lost island or drowned island continent.
Given the name Atlantis by Plato was not a mere romance or myth
without substance as is generally believed, but On the
contrary is the serious epitome of the most stupendous natural
catastrophe which has ever affected the human race, both
because of the magnitude and the severity of the visitation.
I sought, moreover, to prove that the Atlantean calamity was
a variation, in other words, of the flood of Noah or the Greeks
termed it the deluge. Now he's already starting to use
some terms that we would recognize as being very Gnostic,
but he's tying in some historical accounts that I think
at best for people like us could prove that the pre deluge
Adamites and you know, the world that was before the flood.
Like if these people had conquered the world and had a
great amount of culture and civilization, kind of lends
itself to think that maybe their leaders were Nephilim or
Nephilim hybrids. For this purpose, evidence was
derived from geographical, geological, astronomical,
historical and legendary sources to the effect that this magic
catastrophe afflicted Northern and Western Europe, mainly the
Scandinavian lands and beyond all the British islands.
I claimed, in fact, that Atlantis Island was no other
than the British Isles itself, which bear the scars of that
catastrophe to this day, that Atlantis was not permanently
submerged, or even much of it, tremendous though the ultimate
effects were. These islands I showed were the
true Hebades or Happy Islands of yore and are known to have been
inhabited from the earliest Paleolithic or Old Stone Age
onwards, and were the original domicile, the sons of Adam who
were the Titans or giants of classic fame, as well as being
Atlanteans of Plato. So he's already.
Positioning at that. There's seed war stuff, but from
the other side that Adam's sons were the Nephilim giants.
So we get into all these dialectical issues, but it's
just, it's so interesting. And I, I think it's interesting
because a lot of people take this stuff on board as gospel
because it's in a book. But like, like we discussed,
there's one lie amongst all the truths.
If the history and the demographic movements and the
people moving around the planet are true, then there's a truth
in maybe the dark side of things that, that they really existed.
And I think that's the probably the conversation that people
need to start having is where is the truth and where is the lie.
And why and why is the lie? Exactly.
Yes. I'll keep going.
My object, may I point out, was far greater than any mere
academic effort, as some critics seem to imagine, to identify
Atlantis. The disaster of Atlantis was
only indirectly my theme. For the matters in this may lie
which still lie beyond these facts.
As facts are claimed, they are on the evidence.
For it were the flood of the Scriptures.
It thereby brings us into the Northern European continent,
Europe, the nations related to the event directly or indirectly
such as the Chaldeans, Egyptians, Israelites, Helene's
and Greeks and many others. It cannot be isolated as such,
for it challenges the long accepted beliefs and dogma of
the flood occurred in the Middle East and supposedly original
Chaldea, as to which incidentally, in spite of most
careful investigations even within the recent years, these
exist not a title of solid geographical or geological other
evidence to support such a calamity in those regions alone.
Also it corrects and must correct and I must understand
and underestimate and estimate the long accepted claims in
relation to the lands we term Assyria, Egypt, Palestine, and I
fear necessarily disputes the accuracy of the modernist
interpretations from inscribed stones to papyrus.
In other words, we have been misled by these matters.
My sole aim is to get the truth regarding the past as it bears
in many striking ways upon the present.
But let me say, if the further claims I advanced in this work
are sustained, it must logically signify that the segregation of
the Bible history as a thing apart from equivalent classic
peoples, has piled up completely false conceptions and valuations
regarding the history in nations of the past times.
For example, I produce evidence to show that the Uranids of
Crete, which Crete was accepted by the Greeks, Greeks at least,
or the motherland of the original race of mankind, were
the equivalent to the people of ER or the Chaldeys, the book of
the Genesis. And they dwells not in the
Orient or Mediterranean, but in the British Isles.
So he goes on and on to to reclassify areas as being
British. And he does a really good job at
following the linguistical path that goes from say the
Mediterranean through into Central Europe into Northern
Europe. He follows that path of
linguistics really well. And my take away from this is
that the linguistical path is probably real, that people
probably did start off in the northern hemisphere and start
their cultures. But I don't think it was
necessarily the tribe of Adam, more along the lines of maybe it
was the principalities and the kingdoms of the Nephilim at the
time that they had started. And that brings us to another
contentious issue. When you start talking about
tribes and who's the chosen, you quickly put everyone else into
the outer. And I think we that's why I have
to reemphasize that the new covenant dismisses all that and
it really doesn't matter. Yes, Yep.
We're all supposed to be the same now.
But the yeah, it's still, it's still such a I'm the chosen.
No, I'm the chosen and this and that and and, you know, I don't
know if you know this, but Mormon's still.
So we get this thing called the patriarchal blessing when we're
like between 14 and 18 and they tell us what tribe we're from.
It's all baloney. It's just by divination.
They literally anoint you with oil and give you this blessing
by the patriarch. And he's the, he's like a
prophet of, of the church. He, he does this, these
patriotic blessings is like, that's his only job.
And so, you know, they put their hands on your head and they
record the whole thing and they type it up for you.
And it's all the blessings if you do what you're supposed to
and live all the right ways and blah, blah, blah.
But they tell you what tribe you're from.
So like me, I'm the tribe of Ephraim, so that's, you know,
Mary Magdalene. And then Joseph Smith was the
tribe of both Ephraim and Manasseh, making him the perfect
specimen of Jesus. In Mermaid of course gave
himself the best faces. Ragsdeus Yeah.
All right. So still like I'm saying, but
look at all the importance they put on that.
That's like a big deal. I mean, and why?
They emphasize that type of stuff, but they they try to
detract people from looking at the cultural and linguistic
growth over time. Like we look at modern day
nations and then name has a root name for a reason.
Modern day Palestine is named that because of the Philistines.
We have Denmark, the Denmark, the tribe of Dan.
We've got all these tribes that are represented throughout the
world by their name and we can see it's particularly the
Denmark, there's rivers and there's locations leading all
the way to Denmark that mean the tribe of Dan.
It's just linguistically different per region.
It has the same meaning. So we can track a growth of a
tribe or a people quite easily. But it's it's quite interesting
that we've got religions or organized religions rather that
are trying to pigeonhole people into being the better, being the
greater, so that there's some kind of authority over over
others, which is it's completely in the face of what crisis tried
to teach us. Yep.
I mean, isn't it always though? Like this gets us into a lot of
trouble throughout always, right?
But this is yeah, Yep. So I'm bringing in some more
things, you know, it's just my, my notes are from reading this,
so I'm not actually regurgitating all the books for
your listeners because it's going to be a bit dry.
It is older English, even though it was only from the 30's.
The way in which he wrote and spoke, he's a very academic,
well educated Brit sorry for the majority of Americans.
So it's stuffy. Not, yeah, not to typecast you
guys. I don't think you're going to go
out and get the nuance from reading this verbatim, so I'll
just give you some some of the dot points in this.
The gods in Pagan Europe are often referred to as coming from
where the north winds come. The north winds, we've got all
the places of which gods reside on mountains and N winds come
from there. The winds and the mountains are
the strongest. Well, where do the north winds
come from? In Europe?
They blow down from Scandinavia. If you've got a people who were
technologically more advanced than their neighbors at the time
and they came S because they were driven out by, say, God's
wrath and they had to conquer new lands to survive, they would
appear as gods to less advanced people.
Or we've got, like I mentioned, the younger driest impact,
potentially flooding coastlines and low lands of the world that
were inhabited by people. We've got this as these low
lands that have been wiped out. The majority of the knowledge
and the culture that and the accomplishments of these people
is gone. But we've also got an historical
account that's backed up by modern academia called Dogaland.
Have you've heard of this place before?
Dogal and stretched across the region between what is now known
as East Coast, Britain Island, France, Belgium, Netherlands,
Germany and the Danish peninsula of Jute land.
I wonder what that land was named after?
Jute Land? That was 10,000 years ago, 10 to
7000 years ago. We know that a lot of cataclysms
happened 10,000 years ago worldwide.
For whatever reason, megafauna in Australia died off at that
time. They were all wiped out.
Couldn't have just been the aboriginals in their hungry
bellies. They were wiped out by climate
change, as academia would want us to believe.
But there was this mass destruction worldwide that wiped
out peoples and animals. Sea levels rose.
He's nailing a lot of the science really well, which is
great because we can use that. We can take that to the bank
when it comes to scripture. It's where he tries to tie in
the more gnostic belief systems, I think, tries to steer us off
our path. So like, for example, the
historical counts of northern tribes coming down South, not to
raid, pillage or plunder, but to establish colonies, new homes
happened twice throughout recorded history.
The modern one we know of is Vikings.
It's in popular culture. We imagine the long ships and
the horned helmets, which aren't accurate at all by the way,
coming in, raping and pillaging, taking what they want and going
back home. That to go a Viking meant was
like a wanderlust. You wanted to leave your home to
find something better. And if your home is frozen and
destroyed, you have to find something better.
That was the later accounts. Earlier accounts of the exact
same people genetically are the Goths, the Visigoths, the
Angles, the Saxons. They both came from northern
Germany, southern Denmark, and they went to England as well.
So there could have been two successive waves of these people
going into a new land to survive.
So he's got this history to back it up.
And then you look at the way that the climates of the north
have changed. At one time, it'd be very hard
to believe they had wine vineyards in Scandinavia.
So they brought back grapes with them and grew vine vines of wine
convenience that were there. Today, you can't do that.
The people that went to people who went to Iceland and tried to
set colonies there, they lived there and Greenland very well
for a long time until they were driven out because of an ice
flow. So there's some big events.
Things got very cold very quickly and they were forced to
leave. And when you take into account
the idea of when hell freezes over and you think of some of
the games of the places like Helsinki, Helsinki's cold a lot.
Well, that's that's just funny. I'm sorry I interrupt.
I was like, Oh well. And then you've got these ideas
of the mammoths that died out, They're flash frozen, they've
got vegetation in their mouth that's more akin to tropical
regions. So the regions of northern
Europe have over time become more pine like.
And at one point we're probably quite habitable for most life
forms. Humans, animals, they could
thrive there. It was a very sudden shift in
climate. And this kind of lends to the
people who believe it was a impact fire, a comet that should
cause that to happen. Maybe it's the poles reversing,
or it's the drift of the northern poles, who knows, But
there's something has happened and he's trying his best in this
book to try and link it to regional changes and more of a
gnostic spin, which is a bit spooky for people who would read
this as gospel and not look further.
Well, and how many people do that?
How many even read read well anyway?
Yeah, I think, you know, someone within our realm of influence
could pick this up who aren't too well versed and they could
read this and they can do an entire series on this alone and
it would get lots of clicks and become really famous.
They'd probably end up on all sorts of big name shows and it
would get a lot of reach. But they haven't done the due
diligence. And I think that's what I've
tried to do. I'm pulling out the the gems
amongst it all. But I think he's probably 100%
on the science, 100% on the cultural drift.
I think maybe the locations could be exaggerated a little
bit. How about yours when it comes to
just a little bit? How about yours though?
Like ancient America with the black and delight gods that
influence the. Best of Americans.
He actually talks to that too. He refers to the Americas as
being a colony for the Aryans who ultimately failed in the New
Worlds. So there's the link right there.
Well, you know, so one of the things that they're trying to
prove with this whole situation is that Jesus, you know, when he
he was missing, right? For those couple days that he
came here to America, to Mesoamerica and that that.
I think, you know, I think he could fly if he was the white
serpent God. Doesn't he have wings?
I don't know. But this is their backing for
it, right? Like any little thing that they
pick in here, they're like, oh, but look, it's because blah.
Oh, but look, it's because this. And then every single time they
do it, they're like, oops, look now, don't look now because the
DNA doesn't align right. Like all these things, they're
constantly having to go backward.
But ultimately, this is all about, you know, for me, this is
a great book on a lot of things that are true, like you said,
like so much information about these gods and like all
different things. And he gives really good
archaeological stuff on that. That doesn't mean that's not
true, but trying to connect the dots to make it work, to give
some credence to the Book of Mormon, because we know that
there's not one single piece of archaeological evidence.
And that's what they're constantly fighting about.
You know, we have the hill Kimura and and the church owns
it now. And so people have often said,
dig it up. You know, Moroni, the Angel said
they had these great big battles here, bigger than any other
battle. All these people died.
Everybody died. So where's the bodies, you know?
So dig it up, Right. Well, they're not going to dig
it up. First of all, it's a sacred
mound. But second of all, just to make
sure it doesn't ever have that happen, they planted a bunch of
trees. So they're like, we can't, we
can't disturb the we, they're sacred.
Actually, they are sacred trees. They're called witness trees
because they witnessed Joseph Smith talking to God.
So we can't do that. And even if one falls over,
Drew, we can't move it or do anything with it.
It just has to. Peacefully.
Right. They can't.
You know how many people would pay a lot of money for that
tree? I even looked that up.
Speaking of vetting things, I'm like, wonder if you could buy 1,
You know, like a a dead tree. A Nope, not even a dead tree.
But don't. Get a rocking chair made out of
a witness tree. Well, and they won't even.
They. Won't even confirm right.
They won't even. And if you get into weird stuff
like the whole thing, this is off topic, Speaking of books,
but I've got an episode coming up with the Golden Bough.
OK, the golden the Golden Bough talks about tree worship and all
this stuff. And and I was like, this is
really new on some Book of Mormon stuff here.
I think he read the Golden Bough.
But like, they won't even confirm what kind of trees
because I was trying to do studying on it.
Right? Are the witness trees?
But no, no, we mustn't know that.
So it's just constant with this, like you're just going to pull
stuff out of the air then and make a book about it to try and
see how it will stick. Like that's how it feels.
It's probably really good cherry picking from these people and
it, like you said, if you've got all the truths lined up and it's
building a picture and you're starting to see what it is, you
can quite easily force bits and pieces from another puzzle set
into it and make it kind of work.
And I. And don't, don't forget, he
drops. He's a name dropper of all the,
like, famousy people. Like the Marriotts.
Sounds familiar. Yeah.
Like those Marriotts. Yeah, like the hotel ones.
They're Mormons. And so, you know, he does a lot
of name dropping here. Oh, you know, I don't know if
he's trying to just make them extra, more important because
they're already important, right.
They're the right tribe and all that stuff, like it.
Just elitism. Does he defer to what if isms
when he's his position isn't as strong as it could be?
Like if he doesn't have the backup of the academia, the the
history, the biblical sources he throws in a what if he's an
example would be, I know from the Americas that say that
battle occurred. There's this massive battle or
say battles between giants and Native Americans.
Well, we can't find the bones of the giants because the
Smithsonian has all of them. So we've got no evidence.
But I, I'm telling you, the Smithsonian has those bones.
Well, we have to take a few words.
Yeah, there was some things that actually did end up in the
Smithsonian and somehow there was a fire.
So, Drew, it's like you read my mind.
But that, yeah, he what he likes to do is say things and tie him
into exactly what yours is. Like this cataclysm happened,
that cataclysm happened, blah, blah, blah.
And I can get into it when we do it.
Like, I'll tell you what, what's what.
But he definitely includes like all these things to like, oh,
look, this is it, much like yours.
So yeah, that people will believe it.
This guy, he made this book and literally unbelieved himself
because he quit believing over it.
So if. That's, I don't know, at least
he did something for himself in the end.
That's the effect of Mormonism, isn't it?
That you go one of two paths. You either become steadfast on
finding God and you find Jesus. Amen.
That has to happen. Or you go completely.
You know, all religions is a sham.
And I'm like once burned, twice shy.
Most of them do that, and that's why I speak out so much.
People constantly are saying to me, why don't you just leave it
alone? You left Mormonism, now leave it
alone. And I'm like, because are you
the type of person if you're on the lifeboat and there's room
that doesn't go back for more people?
I'm not. I'm going to go back like, what
there you can help people, but so many people wouldn't.
So half of those boats from the Titanic were empty, so.
Not to to search the man who wrote this because he's done a
fantastic job of combining it all, but I have a gut feeling
that this type of work was put out long ago.
Knowing that the plan moving forward after 70 odd years was
that these types of ideas would be implanted and people would
have a thirst for wanting to know the truth and the real
origins of certain things. And it would make people more
pliable to become Gnostic Christians or Gnostics in
general. Like the idea of like the real
psyop is that the majority of conspiracy theories have been
faked the whole time and they've been planted into the
subconscious of of humanity. Say that we talk about it and
form our little communities so that we're more malleable later
on. Absolutely.
Well, I mean, they've been doing this a long time.
And also another one of his fun little name drops is Romney.
That's right. B Romney, his dad, Marion G
Romney and Ezra Taft Benson. So, you know, I mean, do I trust
all this stuff? Probably not.
He's an attorney. Those people are bought in like,
let's do well. So, yeah, you know, and you know
why he mentions Romney's is because they have a settlement
in Chihuahua, Mexico, that I'm going to be doing an episode on
very soon. Those are some really crazy
Mormons, like killing each other Mormons.
So yeah, so there's that. Does does he allude to anywhere
in that book? Because I would assume that this
author would have been taking his time to write that book.
Is there a feeling as you're reading it that he's starting to
lose his faith as he's? Wrong.
He never. Yeah, he never did the book.
It actually had to be compiled later, at a later time.
So interesting. You say that?
Yeah, 5 of this guy. 'S books was.
Compiled after he died. Oh wow, maybe they knew each
other well. Isn't it just interesting that
someone has to compile the works for the person because one, they
never put it out themselves, and two, it's easier to make a
pretty good influence on certain communities later on if these
books were compiled. And if it's compiled for someone
else, did they have the intention of having all that
information? Were there things they decided
were wrong and not supposed to be in there anymore?
If you're just going through someone's notes from their
office, you're just putting out things as you find them right or
you intend. Well, and what if they're just
like if he had a faith crisis in the middle, which clearly he
did, would you that's kind of against what he's going through.
Like honestly, it you wouldn't want to throw them away because
you're like, I spent all this time and research and energy and
blah, blah, blah. But then also it's not really
ethical to put something out. I don't feel after somebody's
death where they can't say that's OK because the last page
might be and all of this is bullshit and I don't like it
anymore. The end.
They don't have the ability to defend their position either.
You're not around for your works.
You can't clarify things, you can't reassert maybe
preconceived notions that you had or change things as you
would have. You're putting things out as you
wrote them at the time. It's like a snapshot in time of
your beliefs at that time and doesn't take into account what
you thought before your death. And that's the sad thing.
I think when we see a lot of authors that are still alive, we
do find they go back and they read, rework their works.
They have different editions that come out there, revise
things, and you can track that with these types of people.
When you've got works that are put out on their behalf, you
don't have that opportunity. Yes, and I mean honestly, if he
wanted to do it, he would have done it.
And having a faith crisis in the middle, he clearly didn't feel
the same. So yeah, for his, I feel like
it's unethical in general, so. Yeah.
It is what it is, it's out there, but it did get on the no
no list so well. Because for the Mormon church.
Yeah, they, they don't want this going around anymore because
then people are going to be like, oh, well, what about this?
And then it, and then it's like, OK, all these people are Middle
Eastern. Oops, no they're not.
It's funny that you mentioned that.
You mentioned the haplo roof thing before.
I saw a paper that came out and it was reasserting that the
haplogroup data from the Human Genome Project was inaccurate
and there was no bearing, say, straight transition of of Inuit
or Eskimos type peoples from the steppes or Asia into North
America. They're reasserting that the DNA
found within North American Indians were from the Levant
region. I thought, oh, this is weird.
It took three clicks to find it lent back to the Mormon.
Church, of course, Of course. Well, probably from this book.
What do we do? What do we do?
Yeah, who knows? But yeah, it gets it gets
interesting. What's your your biggest take
away from it? Was it that it drove this guy to
lose his faith? Or was it that there's the truth
in amongst the lies? What's what's your gut feeling
of reading? It, I will say this, look, it
was a, it was a pretty interesting read.
He's got pictures. He's got all these ancient
sites, like I like history. So this was good, you know, and
he's got a lot of connections and different things.
He's got the story of Quetzalcoatl, which, you know, I
was looking which paragraph I, I could read.
I didn't think about doing that. But you know, and he goes over a
lot of things like sacred mountain reasons and altars.
And so in this, you know, he does lay out a lot of
interesting things just because they don't fit what he
originally had as a hypothesis. Like I think if he would have
kept it as a question and been like, maybe this right, instead
of this is blah, this would have been better like a thesis paper.
But nevertheless, here we are and it's a published book and
now they can't get rid of it. But like I said, it wasn't even
supposed to be put out in the first place.
So like I always question like, was this the narrative?
Is this like a plan? Was this the plan to lead them
here? I I just don't ever know with
the church because they've done so much shady stuff.
But As for the actual history in it, it is really interesting,
you know, And yes, the guy had a faith crisis, but during this
actual book, it doesn't seem that way, right?
Because he's all in and you just only know that if you look it
up. I don't know that you would know
that if you didn't know that. But I knew already, so, which is
sad, because what happens then can lead people astray still,
right? What person is going to know
that isn't Mormon? I knew about Southerton because
I knew about the DNA thing, because I knew he got
excommunicated for it. But if you didn't know that it
has nothing to do with this book.
Would you go and look it up? Like, would you or would you
believe this narrative just on words alone?
Yeah, it's a there's a difference between researchers
and apathy of readers. And, you know, we're all, we're
all time poor. We get that.
But when you've got big claims require big evidence and you
can't just say here's my reference without actually
looking at the reference, especially if it's something as
groundbreaking as ancient America was, a place where the
truth and relax were, or it was Britain where Atlantis was.
These are big massive claims that require big evidence which
they try to give their evidence. But like you said, it's is it
the truth or is it a lie? Well, and the fact that, you
know, there's names dropped. He also was the founder of the
New World Archaeological Foundation, which benefited from
the church's money multiple times. 15,000 in 1953, that was
a lot back then. And 200,000 between 1955 to 59.
That's a lot of money. This is all church money, you
know, So it just, it's just like, at what point is it so
yucky that it doesn't matter anymore, right?
Like, I don't know, I don't know, is this your narrative
because you wanted to open that society?
Is this your narrative because you want to go to Mexico a
bunch? I don't know, like I don't know
what you're doing with that right?
But it sure is a hard take when I mean they're like, OK, so
basically they're saying, you know, because, you know, Jesus
came to the Americas. We have this proof because this
the timeline adds up and he was a fair God and Quetzicodel just
happens. This this whole thing just
happens to be when that was and the timelines align.
Like that's good enough or like I'm not saying Quetzicottle
isn't on things. I'm not saying that that's not
real, but like that's a stretch. I just, yeah, I don't know, I
don't think that again, like I said, there were other things
like this. He he does talk about codices
and stone carvings and all of the, you know, oh, it had their
feet inside, you know, hands pierced on the crucified figure.
So it had to have been this like, why did it had to have
been that? Like maybe one guy made it
there. Like we don't, we just don't
know, right? Like it could be anything.
I'm not saying maybe a guy had a dream about it.
Maybe we've seen prophecies in the Bible, like maybe that,
like, I don't know what happened, but certainly it seems
like a really weird stretch to start linking this to 3rd Nephi
eight through 10 when they're talking about the earthquakes
and the days of darkness and volcano eruptions.
And then they're like, oh, oh, oh, wait, we had that too.
Then this, this happened too, you know?
And so I'm like, well, I mean, yeah, OK, great.
But also, these things happen all the time.
Like you could go pick a day out of the calendar and look and
see, was there an earthquake that day?
Was it a big deal? Was it this like it's?
Cherry picking information to see the narrative a lot of the
time. Like I could look at I could
look at the time of the Justinian plague in which a
super volcano went off at that time in the world.
It sent so much particulars up into the sky for like a year or
more straight. It was like a perpetual, like a
sun was barely around. Lots of plants died.
They didn't had lots of losses of food.
Clearly pestilence grew up from that disease, which was the
Justinian plague apparently. I can say that that was aspects
of of the Bible because it links to certain events.
But that would be cherry picking because I don't know, it's a bit
of a what if ISM. Right.
And they did specifically link, you know, real things that
really happened. I'm going to try and say these
words, the Izapa and Camino eruptions, OK, of these
volcanoes, like they talk about the sunken cities and, and oh,
it's got to be it because it's in, it's in the Book of Mormon.
And this is the one. But like they don't know that.
Like there's, there's not a sign that says like this is the one.
Like they are giving tons of information that is absolutely
real, but it's just such a stretch.
I, I, I I don't know. The stretching sides of things.
I'm reading my book and then listening to yours.
It reminds me of something that's going around quite
popular at the moment, and that's little season slash
tartaria. Like the amount of videos that
I've seen where people show images of what I can would
consider pareidolia, which is the human ability to see faces
of familiar objects in nature. So this is a frozen Nephilim
look. Yeah.
OK, I'll go there. It could be.
It also just looks like a rock. And then there's oh, this, this
is, this is a sign of melting. No, that's erosion over possibly
10s of thousands of years. Or this is a doorway cutting to
the side of a mountain. I can see the crack lines where
there's been an earthquake and it's fallen.
There's a lot of stretching to push a narrative at the moment.
And it really just distracts us from the work that we should be
doing if we're leaving it literally in the past, trying to
prove Old Testament bloodlines and prove seed war prove chosen
people. It takes away from the work the
crisis is crisis got us to do in the in the now.
And the problem of OK my people, the chosen people instantly puts
you into an authoritarian position where you're better
than everyone else. The definition of racism on the
other side, the serpent seed, well, these people are serpent
seed literally belittles people till they're not human.
What do you think is going to come out of those two
situations, especially if you had a weaponized control of
Christianity, where there's Christian nationalism and the
majority of people went chose, we're chosen.
These people are Satan's serpent seed.
We're now justified in wiping them off the face of the planet.
No, not very new covenant at all.
No, no. And when we look at this stuff,
you know, like this, this is part of of what they're talking
about. OK.
When Cortez landed on the East Coast of Mexico in 1519, the
inhabitants of the land thought he was their benevolent personal
God, Quetzicodal, who had appeared to their ancestors
centuries before Columbus and had promised to return.
Like Cortez Quetzicodal had been bearded and white skinned and he
was associated with the cross. OK, so that that's fine.
You want to talk about that? But also it could be 100 other
things like you're guessing and we don't even have a picture of
any of these people, right? And I'm like, Cortez doesn't
sound like he would have had a white beard, but whatever.
If you want to say that, that's fine.
You know? And at the end of the day, I
think it's important with bloodlines to study them for the
fact to know what the elites are doing so we can understand what
they're doing. But definitely we should never
be buying into this crap. Not at all, because we're then
we're kind of falling for their belief systems as opposed to our
own. The amount of people that go
down the rabbit hole of occultism to better understand
the enemy that get lost down there and can't find the way.
I think it's really big within the conspiratorial slash
podcasting community. It's a huge thing at the moment.
And yeah, I think you need to take your Lantern with you to
get out because you can get stuck in it.
Very easy and well and as I went down the rabbit hole and I don't
know how you feel like being red headed like with the whole
Nephilim agenda thing. And then, you know, I felt
really weird when I started finding out MyHeritage and stuff
like I was like, Oh my gosh, I never even cared about this.
I think a few times I even texted you like Oh my gosh, this
is bad. You know, especially.
If there's RH negative involved, oh you're a natural blood
person, you're bad. Oh my gosh, yeah.
And it's, it's just something that, you know, OK, we're
dealing with it. You're kind of dealing with it
in the moment of like, uh oh, like this is kind of scary.
And then also like, I don't, I don't want to be associated with
that. So at the same time, you're
trying to expose things for the sake of what they believe.
They as in the elites, the 1%, the people that believe in the
divine right to rule and all this crap.
But like you said, at the same time not being like, well, I'm a
redhead, so now I'm screwed. You know, it does, it feels that
way. You know, I felt that way
because I knew my blood, my bloodline, like I was screwed
too. So I was like, Oh my gosh, like
this is scary. But that's not true.
Like you said, like we have, we have to stop.
And that is really that is very easily weaponized.
Some of the rhetoric I've heard online from the black Israelite
movement about white people being the devil and all white
people at the serpent scene and white people need to be wiped
out. It's just racism from another
perspective. And, and this is what it does.
When you go down the route of I'm better than you because of A
or you're lesser than me because of B, you get in some some
really dark corners of human existence.
Right. Well, anytime people are saying
that they're better, I mean, this whole divine right to rule
business is serious to them, right?
Like, I mean, look at what they did in Germany.
Like, let's just be real here, Blavatsky.
I wrote a whole thing about it. I just did an episode on Steiner
whole thing about it. Like when you look at this
stuff, it doesn't die. Like it's just, it's just
forever. And we've got.
We've got a real life account of what the divine right to rule
has done geographically in the world.
Look at India. India was ceded civilization
wise by the Aryan tribes that came from the north.
They brought the wheel, they brought horses, they brought
agriculture with them. They even gave them Sanskrit,
which today is everyone believes is Indian.
It came from Northern Europe. They arrived, they set up a
caste system. The air caste system was
inherently based on you've got to be an Aryan.
Well, there weren't too many Aryan women, so they had to
start breeding with the native women.
So it created a caste system. India only recently got rid of
that. Like you've got a racial based
system within their own people. This.
But they're still untouchables. They're still untouchables
there. It's horrible.
Like literally how do you like? Like I remember when I was
young, maybe like 16 or 15, seeing a story about this little
kid that everybody said he was an untouchable because I don't
even know why he had a witch eye or some shit.
I don't know what it was. He was this little, tiny,
sweetest little kid and they just left him out there to
freaking die. And some lady adopted him and
helped him and everything. And I'm like, how do you do that
with humanity? Like at what point are we
treating this less than a stray dog?
Like awful, awful. Like I just remember reading
that and thinking, that can't be real.
Like what mother does that? What what person is OK with
walking past a baby in the street?
Like, I couldn't do it. I'd probably be the lady that
adopted him. But you know, I just can't, I
just can't imagine that that. And that's not that long ago and
it's still happening. So.
And how do you feel if you're those people, even if you're not
an untouchable, Like, how do you feel if you live there knowing,
Ah, you know, Steiner said that. Yeah, I, I, I can't go anywhere
because of my station in life. And Steiner said black people
were animals. Like, what is going on?
You know, like, oh sorry, you got to reincarnate again to get
wider. Steiner, the gentleman who
influenced Steiner schools across the world that are still
being used for some reason. The same guy that said little
octopus aliens would be injected into humanity.
Yeah. Gertcheff, is that what you were
talking about? I think so, yeah, Yeah.
And and it's just scary. Like some of the stuff they're
right about, like some like that's the hard part because
Steiner also said go put shandy cat people on the beach to
enlighten yourself and be a better person.
Like, cool, I can get down with that.
He also reversed the Lord's Prayer because people come at us
and say, well, he was a Christian, you know?
And I'm like, well, I mean, OK, I don't think so.
Yeah. So, you know, you're like in one
of these things like Scientology or Mormonism or, or that, you
know, whatever, you're an anthroposophist theosophist and,
and you're just in this and you're, you're living like this
for so long because then they keep you busy forever and you're
the chosen 1 and you never get out.
Like when do you stop enough to be like, whoa, maybe this is not
good, but they don't a lot of times.
And like you said, when they do, it goes bad.
So but and humans like being told they're special.
There's a a. Level of ego stroking, everyone
enjoys a little bit. We like compliments.
When you get ego stroking on the level of that, you're the chosen
people and you're God's chosen and everyone else's pawns come
in comparison. If you're born in that and you
keep swallowing that every day, it's very hard to break away
from it because why would you? You don't look a gift horse in
the mouth. And that's essentially what a
lot of these cults do. Yeah.
Why would you? Why would you leave if you're
the perfect? One like why would you?
Choose to do anything different if you're the chosen, you know,
I mean, the Mormons literally say they're the only true church
in the world, that, you know, they're the only one that's true
and exists, that we have all the knowledge we have the true keys
to Masonry, Masons, you hear that one?
Like, I mean, they're not quiet really about it, you know, So I
don't know. Yeah, it's really elect the
elect, right. So.
After that book.
You've seen some of the the. Truths hidden amongst.
The lies, and you've unpacked it a bit.
What's your perspective on it though, as where the truths are
when it's talking about America as being this first place?
What evidence is there that you think that there is some truth
to it? Like when you're you're an
American yourself, you've got look, you see your own backyard.
Like what evidence is there for ancient peoples and and the
things that they're trying to small threats from this this.
Particular book is more focused on quetzicodal being Jesus.
I mean like period. And and so you don't believe
Jesus was the feathered snake God?
I don't, I do not, but. I do know that, you know,
Jackson County, Missouri, is where Joseph Smith said is the
real Garden of Eden. I don't know if I've ever told
you that. So yeah, that's where we're
supposed to go. When the end of the world
happens. We have to go to Jackson County,
Missouri. And a lot of people know this.
And then, you know, you do look at these weird things like all
these pyramids and killing. Missouri just doesn't have a
God. I know it's so.
Bad. I'm like, this is weird.
This is super weird and and they've they've still say that
that happens to all the rednecks.
Do they get like kicked out or smited before?
You arrive or I don't know, but they did used to shoot.
Mormons. A lot so.
I think they better watch themselves.
And then then we get the Grand Canyon stuff, you know?
And I do think there's a lot they're hiding.
Like, let's be real. I mean, they name like the
Temple of Isis right there. They're really not hiding it.
But like, I don't think that's that's where we're talking about
here. They're trying to say that's
also that's not Mormons. That's just a theory, right?
That that this is where it was. And I'm like, look, you guys, I
just don't buy it. Like you guys just want them to
be not Jewish so bad. And let's get real.
OK. Like I don't believe.
In Aryan Jesus, and I don't believe in quetzicotal feathered
Jesus. I think he might be concerned
about that. Like, I don't know if he'd want
feathers, but whatever, you know, it just seems like such a
stretch all the way around. I don't know, It's silly to me.
It seems like it seems like such a danger that people.
Can get these these types of books and and they can have
their confirmation bias from it. Like if you're interested in
ancient history and meteoric impacts and all that.
Jazz the great deception like. One of these books is literally
titled that it's it's a good little bit of confirmation bias
and it's going to tickle your boxes.
It's going to tickle your intrigue.
It's going to confirm some things that you want to be true
without you actually going through it point point in fact,
right. He mentions that the Hebrew.
Tribes had firearms. They had gunpowder.
They had. Ball bearings, and that's why
they were so powerful at the time, wiping out the Philistines
and other other tribes because they had muskets nowhere in
historical record. Outside of China have.
I seen a culture that had black powder before the Chinese and
then via association Europeans who developed guns.
Yes, he's made this assumption here and all the references he's
tried to make. I can't make that connection
work. Can't find anything.
Can't find anything not. Even a stone etching, huh?
No. Nothing.
Nothing at all. Not a gun that says.
This was Jesus Glock in gold sitting in a temple somewhere.
I mean, yeah, maybe he'd have a musket.
I don't know. Oh boy.
Yikes. Oh lordy.
So I think. Like the take away from what
you're, you've spoken about, what I've spoken about, there's
this through line that goes through all of it.
Take away the mysteries. The truth from all of this that
we're seeing is there's been some kind of cataclysmic event.
There's been people living on closed lines or in inland who
have been washed away via floods.
There's been God like entities that are pale, probably blonde
haired, blue eyed, that made their way to the new world and
establish themselves as the divine right to rule.
We've had it in India, we had it in South America, we had it in
Australia, Africa even. There's all these accounts now.
If you're using Occam's razor, what's the most common sense
approach to that? There's also seafaring people
who have the ability to go around the world, right?
You track that back. Who are the seafaring peoples of
the time? Well, they wouldn't be mostly
the Mediterranean, Mediterranean's of enclosed kind
of area. They don't really know how to
navigate open waters. Mediterranean is pretty close,
it's protected from weather for the most part.
What people would have been travelling the world would have
been the Scandinavians or would have been the British people who
actively had to engage in large open seas.
And if they had the ability to create boats, they probably had
the ability to develop metal urgy and farming techniques.
To some person straight out of a cave would look like magic,
right? Of course, it's all alien cargo
coats. Right, like all.
And that's what JJ always says he's like.
It's like, that's what it always goes back to.
I'm like, yeah, you're not wrong.
You know, I mean, I get it. Like, it would seem very magical
if you saw that. What if he had like a feathered
coat or something sequence? You got a sequin ball gown on
for Aleno. Yeah, I mean, it would be crazy.
You know and. What if it was fur instead?
I mean, I don't know. We could conjecture all day, you
know, and then again, like if we tried to align this from our
understanding. Of scriptures is that there was
pre Adamite peoples that had spread across the earth their
advance, they were doing things that humans shouldn't be doing
and they were punished for it accordingly.
And no. And his family or those that
survived sounds a lot like the survivors of a said flood which
we know occurred. There was a Raphaim after the
Nephilim. They maybe just picked up their
boats, picked up what they could, got out just in time, or
survived the cataclysm, avoided God's wrath, and they tried to
set up camp somewhere new. That's what it sounds like to
me, at bare minimum. You guys buy the historical?
Candles, seafaring peoples who made their way around the world.
Oh, I did forget to mention one thing all of.
This and don't forget the Romneys are in Mexico.
Big players there probably make a lot of money.
This became like a Mecca thing, and I think it still is.
Yeah, to some of the pyramids over in Mesoamerica.
Yep. So now when they go there.
There's. Still to this day, tours that
are like this is for the Mormons because you know, you're serpent
God guy that that's not supposed to happen.
But OK. Like, I thought that was
debunked by the guy from Yale, by the way, the guy I had to,
the guy that debunked it, they came out specifically against
it. And he, yeah, he's from Yale.
So I thought that was pretty funny.
That book is called, Let's see, Breaking the Maya Code by
Michael Deco, Mr. Yale himself. So it's yeah.
But to this day, those still go. So don't you find it interesting
that all of these influential little groups.
Freemasons, Mormons, Shriners, all these types of occultic
Christian air quotes groups, they're the most influential
people when it comes to First Nations accounts.
Like they go in to meet these tribes before anyone else and
they put it under the guise of we're spreading the word or
we're trying to help people. I think honestly they are going
for that, that bloodline stuff because they believe so,
somebody once told me. In one of my podcasts and he's
he's really smart researcher, LDS abuse.
And he said this is how they do it for, you know, the Marriotts
or the Romneys or these important people, right?
Like they'll go in and the church will do a small donation
when there's a huge problem like an earthquake, right?
And that'll get them in the door.
And then once they get there, they're like, hey, but my
friend, this really rich Freemason guy, he has food
services that we can feed the people.
And this guy builds and you need to rebuild your city, so you
need the builders and then blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so eventually, yeah, it's all of them, right?
Like they're, they're all drifting off this money and
they're making a ton more than that little original donation,
you know? So yeah, it's always been the
way. Yeah.
And development, yeah. And.
The first contact situations though.
Like in North. America, from my understanding,
a lot of Mormons and Masons were making contact with the
Americans as they went West and they were the first people that
they saw. It wasn't the American Union all
the time or Union soldiers. It was settlers and people
preaching the good word that were finding their way across.
And you know, what information would they try and get a hold of
before everyone else could come in and just stamp it out?
Oh yeah, and they would, absolutely.
Marry into native tribes to make them more white and delights up
to help them out. Drew.
They're helping them out. Yeah.
But really what they're doing is they're stealing their
knowledge. They're stealing their quote UN
quote magic, whatever that is, like their tribe secrets, right?
And they're using it to their advantage before anybody else
can come around. This is constant.
And like the Mormons, there would be no America West without
the Mormons. Like, I hate to tell people it's
just the truth, truth. But also most of the time they
were running from being killed. But you know, whatever they they
were here. And yeah, this is where they
shoot themselves in the foot because you're on one side.
You got the. The serpent say on the other
side, you got the chosen. They're trying to claim to be
both. Because if they're claiming to
be the chosen at the same time as intermarrying to the serpent,
say, and gaining their blood magic air quotes, that's what it
was. What's their position then?
Because you can't. Have both.
So if you want my honest in a binary system, it's got to be.
One or the other, it can't be both.
It's witchcraft like it honestly look.
When the people came to America in general, yes, Masons 2.
Yes, freedom of religion. But what's the religion they're
trying to stamp out, Drew? What is that religion?
I'm not really curious. Right?
Like if you really dissect it and look backward, like, who's
the one they're kicking out anyways?
The heretics? The Gnostics, the witches.
Look, I don't care what you want to practice.
That's your salvation, not mine. But when we're talking about
this, and then you bring in the other side of it, and they're
native, and maybe they have their special things which like
it, it could correlate. But right, Maybe they're doing
certain kind of magic. We know that most Native tribes
do believe in magic in one form or another.
And you bring that blood together, which they told them
to do, then you gain both. So yeah, so I have to take
cocktail. Mm.
Hmm. Yep, Yep.
And and it sounds stupid and everybody's going to tell us
it's so stupid because it doesn't matter anymore because
the kings and Queens aren't real.
I literally had someone, every time I bring up bloodlines, it's
like they have bots on purpose to like stamp this out, right?
Because then it, it exposes the elites for what they're really
doing. And why are they all related,
right? Why are all the presidents
related except a couple? Why are all these people, why am
I related to almost everybody? Because if you're related to 1,
like welcome to the club. Like they're all related.
And so it's really weird. Yeah.
Every time I do one on that, it's literally like the last
time somebody was like, kings and Queens aren't even real.
I'm like, what? In what world?
This is the really thing that annoys me it.
Matters to a point we know for the spiritual warfare side of
things through the new covenant titles, Bloodlines.
That's all irrelevant now. For them it is very relevant and
it's a development for them and us in this physical world.
If they rule via title, via bloodline, via association, it
is very, very important for them and it becomes very important to
us because they can Lord that power over us in the situation
because we have a base system, they're gifted down even we have
systems in. Place where they're going to be
in control if. You're one of those bloodlines,
one of those influential name groups.
You're going to go far in life if you marry into that.
Your children are going to go far in life.
For us, not so much. But we know the other side of
that coin. They've they've very much
narrowed down the materialistic to physical because that's all
they've got in this. We've got the other side.
We've got the trump card on that and we have to look at it like
when we think of. Things like, OK, JJ Vance told
me all about the Society of the Cincinnati and I didn't know
anything about that until I talked to him, right?
And he's an ex Mormon too. And I'm like, that's weird
because why have I never heard this ever?
Like I know about Freemasons, I know about Martinism, I know
about all this crazy stuff like where did this come from, right?
And then you start looking into it and what is it?
It's gifted down through the patriarchal line and if you
served in the service, but you can't just go like.
Pledge for it like, oh, I'm a Freemason now because I went to
go do your little class or whatever.
No, you can't just be in the secret society with it.
Like I went to Yale so I can go and be blah blah blah.
No, some of this is literal. You have to prove your lineage
and why? If it doesn't freaking matter,
well, you better look again, you guys, because I have found so
many societies going down this whole thing.
Some of them I I've never heard of before, ever.
They're weird and, and the names are weird and a lot of them have
to do with pure, like just bloodline.
And so, yeah, but I think it's very important to them.
I think for us it's irrelevant because we know about what God's
rules really are. But if you want to know what
kind of chess we're playing here, you have to play 3D chess.
You cannot just go through life and be like, the world's
different now. Doesn't he matter, You know?
No, no, if it didn't matter, then they wouldn't track it
back. And they do every time.
So it's like. We're playing chess and they're
playing. Checkers on the same board.
Yes, slightly different game. So.
With this Jesus, this white. Jesus, guy, that you've.
Got here. Scottish Jesus.
Scottish Jesus must be Ewan. McGregor.
Because he looks like Jesus when he played everyone Kenobi.
So I'm. Assuming that's what he looks
like. So weird.
So what do they say about? This.
So it's the geographical. Location of great.
Britain is essentially an. Overlay of what Jerusalem or
avant region is today Galilee is Wales because of the close
proximity Scotland is Jerusalem, Ireland is Egypt and when
they're expelled out of Ireland they across and if that's where
the red the. Dead Sea was or the red.
Sea and they cross there through that little bridge there.
It's an issue in that he brings up all these points about Jesus
being white, which I don't know, he very well could have been.
The demographics of the time were very different.
At most maybe they look like northern Italians today or early
Greeks, whatever, doesn't really matter.
But he goes down this path of the bloodlines again, mentioning
that Odin in the a lot of the paganistic gods weren't gods,
but were people. Which to the Gray?
I kind of believe Maybe the ancient gods were people.
In Nephilim or. Something of that nature and
that Odin wasn't necessarily a person but was a title given to
someone like a Chieftain. And Odin of his time married
into the bloodline of Jesus children and out of that came
the Royals of Great Britain. So again, he's already putting
himself as a British person. Conformational bias writs are
the true key to the world because we had the greatest
empire until a bunch of farmers in the new world decide to stop
paying their taxes, right? But it's it's the same thing I
see. Everywhere I see it in the Black
Israel Israel movement, I. See it in Mormonism.
I see it in every small kind of niche occulting group.
Everyone wants to be the chosen. Everyone wants to be the best.
Everyone wants to have the special blood type, right?
And he writes it into his book Pretty.
Well. The locations are quite.
Compelling the. Parallels between Jerusalem.
And Great Britain, I'll give him based on the descriptions from
the Bible and what ancient Britain looked like, I'll give
him that. I'll even give him the the olive
branch of just because there are Romanesque style baths and
Romanesque Greco Roman style things in Britain doesn't mean
the Romans arrived. It just means they were
influenced by them. Look, today you can walk down
the street in Australia and walk down the street in America.
If you didn't know what country you're in and you just saw the
architecture, you know you're in a similar place.
That's what could have happened in the ancient world, that
shared culture meant shared architecture and shared styles.
And I don't think that equates to global Tataria.
I think it just means right change of culture and and arts
more. Than anything else.
OK, All right, so. They they do the Rex Deus.
Yes, you said Jesus's bloodline. So children.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
And you do know that Joseph Smith was Irish.
And so I find this story interesting.
I wonder where they got it from originally.
And, and this is where they they even connect into like the
historical. Counts of truth and here's the
truth. Scoter was an Egyptian Princess
who helped found Scotland in the ancient times.
Scoter namesake for Scotland, the Irish, the Tuafa de Zanan
were the like pre deluge people, the Aryans, the fae folk, the
fairy folk that sat at round tables, fairy circles like.
All this mythology has been mixed up into this massive
blender and you throw a few interconnecting wisps of
biblical scripture into it. It really mutters, muddies the
message of of Christ, and you can see why people find it
appealing. It's entertaining.
Don't get me wrong. If this if I was my.
My Jesus is. Mexico, yours is.
Red headed white probably. So I don't know.
We got to fight I guess. Just not in red headed Jesus.
Can't fight in Mexico because. The sun would burn him, but this
is true. This is true, yeah, and I'm not
making fun. Of the gods of Mexico.
I'm making fun of the fact. That the Mormons strove so hard
to be like this is the thing. Well, it's, it's, it's quite
funny. We've seen it.
That kind of joked. About in modern media, I don't
know if you're familiar with a show called American Gods.
It was ATV series from about 10 years ago now.
And every single God from ancient up until modern is
represented in the show and their characters.
And humanity in this story brings gods into existence just
by believing in something. So the oldest gods in this story
are trees, tree worship. And then you get into the irony.
This is the golden bow. Yeah.
You get into the Odens, you get the Zeus.
And whatnot. But then.
There's this like an Expo gathering over all these gods
where they mate once a year and catch up with each other.
There's about 50 different versions of Jesus because
humanity has all these different beliefs about what Jesus look
like. So there's a Mexican Jesus,
there's a white and light Jesus, there's a female Jesus.
It's always Jesus. And it's just kind of throwing
it in our face. Yeah, of course.
Because if they confuse. It we'll never figure it out.
And then it also plays into the Gnostic.
Thing because. Then Jesus is everything, right?
And everything is everything. And it's in the grass and the
dirt. It's in you and it's in me.
And I do believe that in a different way.
Not not that way. I do believe that Jesus is in
everything, but not like how they're talking about.
I also don't want to be. Yeldebeus.
Oops. Like.
The the particles in the Pluroma of Oopsie Yeldebeus.
Like there's some great stories. I don't know.
People don't know. That's a Gnostic story, people.
Check that out. If you don't know we're in Oops,
there's some. Connections in this that he.
Makes between Egyptian. History and the expulsion of the
Hyksos, and I don't know if you're familiar with who they
are. The Hyksos were according to
modern academia were eleven time people from the Levant region,
Palestine Philistine area that came across into Egypt and
conquered northern Egypt. Dismissed all the gods except
for one, the Akhenaten, which is the sun God, and they ruled
there. They adopted the culture of
Egypt for quite a while until they're expelled and kicked out.
He likens this as being the story of Noah of of Moses rather
and Moses being kicked out of Egypt.
And he does the Gnostic story of spinning Old Testament on its
head. The good guys, the bad guys, the
bad guys, the old guys, even Abraham, he brings back to an
Egyptian word called Abraham came into Egypt, not Abraham.
Abraham was a Hyksos God. So he goes down this this
dialectic of do you know that the the Jews were the bad guys,
right? And he's talking about in
talking about it in hush tones to try and kind of make them the
others. But at the same time, the rest
of his book is trying to say that the Scots are the true
Jews. Again, confirmation bias doesn't
really matter. New Testament.
Come on, people, the program. Oh boy, oh boy.
This is actually interesting. Because you and I both know some
people that really, really dig the Akhenaten Jesus theory.
So I'm assuming they may have read this book.
I might have to get this book, I guess the dry British book, it
is very dry. And if you don't, If you're not
academically. Minded.
He's going to use the big words in there that'll throw you out.
I apologize to my listeners early when I start recording
these. It's not worse than Steiner's
6000 lectures that I do. Certainly not worse than that,
but you will if you are a. Lover of history and
particularly of Greek mythology, you'll love to listen and the
alternative take on that. Well, that's what I can put out.
He does a lot of talk about Creighton, the Cretans and how
we have that term now by history because Crete is kind of
rebelling against the rest of of Greece and that's how we refer
to people today. Interesting to the linguistics.
You just have to sift through the weeds and to find the flower
inside, which is the truth, which is half the fun.
I'm I'm fascinated by this whole thing now I.
Didn't know exactly where. You were going with your book
and now I have to get that book because the Mormons are Irish
and they have this weird Rex Deus story.
And when people get in trouble here, like our attorney general
that said he was not a cannibal, Drew, he got up and I'm not
kidding. I'm not going to name his name.
People can look it up. Nobody asked him.
I don't know if God like played a trick on him and something
came in his ear and he thought somebody asked him.
But in the middle of a press conference, press conference on
TV, he said I am not a cannibal. Nobody asked.
Nobody asked I. Can you imagine being there?
What did he do? Why?
Why did? You say that.
Could you? Imagine being his wife.
What are you doing? Stop that weirdo.
Like so, but then go and bite her ear off.
Do it. I'm not a cannibal.
I'm not, and so I was. Everybody was confused.
That they were like what? And so he ran away and bought a
castle in Scotland. So as you do, you know, getting,
getting going back. To old Jerusalem, apparently.
Apparently he's going to the homeland so.
Weird. Super weird.
We have. To tell you.
That as you're reading all this, I'm like, Yep, they know the
story. Mexico or.
Scotland. That's where they're going wild.
Absolutely wild. Well.
We're not going to be like an Oprah's Book Club and then tell
people to go out and buy books. But for the listeners, if you do
want to get hold of these, they are stupidly expensive.
Stupidly expensive. I put that down to two reasons.
The guy's dead and it's up to someone to publish these second
part. It does contain a lot of no, no
words, Aryans, cure bloods, all that jazz.
Very ethnocentric, but it makes sense for the time it was
written. This guy comes from a world that
was prior to the Nazi party. And academia did believe in
those words and they used those words.
And I don't think those words are necessarily bad.
It's just a certain mustache man from Austria who liked to paint
paintings made it bad for everyone.
So if you want to do these books, you may or may not be
able to get it in your country. Oh, really?
Yeah. That's weird it.
Could be illegal in some countries.
That's weird, yeah. Mine is 5 bucks.
Now because. It's on the no note list.
Mine's on the no note list, so yeah, it's like 495 on Goodreads
with bad ratings, so there's that.
I'm going to have to get that just because it's a cheap book.
Oh, that's my library. It's.
Cheap. Yeah, Yep, it's.
It's actually got, like I said, it's got a lot of really cool
pictures. It's got a lot of really cool
definitions and important things that are true and very strange
and weird, like definitions of occultic type stuff.
I did find it funny. One last thing too, I found it
kind of on maps and everything. Drew, you'll like it.
I did find it a little bit funny that he lost his faith.
I think it was in 1960 and the funding ran out in 1959.
Probably a coincidence. I don't know.
What was he shaking the cock? Is the face feeling pretty thin
right now? He's like, look, give me my
money. They were done digging in.
Mexico because I didn't find anything cool so.
I wonder if you're going to extrapolate that little
situation to. People in the conspiratorial
podcasting lens, when people are dogmatic about Tartari and then
eight years after they've made all the money and the topic
starts to die out, they suddenly go, oh, we got it wrong.
It wasn't true. No, no, no, that's not what they
do. They never say they got it.
Wrong. And then they're like, look at
this Hollywood guy. It's really Elvis.
This guy is Elvis, and this is not.
He's not dead. He's our president.
Oh, yeah, yeah. The new thing is, the new
thing's not putting out books and waiting. 60 years for it to
germinate into popular culture. The new one is micro trending,
jumping on TikTok, pointing to things behind you going oh, look
at. This Did you know Donald?
Trump is actually General Patton.
I thought he was Elvis. Yeah, exactly a video.
A2 ago he was Elvis so they can't.
Even keep track of the people they're trying to, you know,
talk about no, no one better. One better.
We got to. Do it, They don't wait for a
super long time on the books because they AI AM and they're
done in like 5 minutes. Yes, it's very convenient when
you've got a. Pre written book and you end up
on a major series of podcasts or within 10 days and your book is
the topic of conversation that somehow you've been writing for
a very long time. But you appear on all the shows
and then you've got all the big name people all at once.
Which drew as long as you've known me, let's see I've.
Been doing this for almost 3 years.
I have been doing research and study and some writing of a
book. There's no I'm not even 100
pages in. It's been three years.
That's it takes so. Long and.
I can't even imagine if it ever gets done and I get it edited.
Like that's going to take a billion years.
Like I might be dead when my book gets written too.
Maybe it'll be stupid extensive and you know I'm going to
surprise the viewers guess. What I'm also writing a book.
But it's not conspiratorial. It's just a work of fiction.
It's a bit of fun. It's a story.
And I've also written a kids picture story book.
But I'm not going to build a pulp profile on that and go on
to every circuit and go to conventions for adults who are
trying to be 1 but don't want to go to Comic Con because I think
it's nerdy. I would rather go to I think
Comic Con might be fun you. Can at least wear an outfit.
Always have fun with it, you don't have to like you.
You're pretending to be something that you're not, but
it's a different type of thing. I think that's fun.
I don't know. I mean, I'm not against any.
Of it but look here's the thing like if you want to do any AI
book that's fine like if and some people have done a lot of
studying and just used AI to put it together that's a different
thing right and and I'm not dissing anybody that wants to go
do whatever they want to do but don't act offended when
academics because there are some of us in the podcast world that
have multiple degrees and we're academics and when we go like
that and I'll never. Not say like.
I just had a guy on that I completely disagree with.
OK, he thinks we should all go do the Torah feasts and all the
things and I have to go in a shed.
Thank God I don't bleed anymore. Literally.
I'm not kidding. I'm not saying it in a bad way.
I don't know. I don't know what that is, but
like I would still have them on to hear them out because I like
to hear people out. That's the whole point.
If I agreed with everyone, how boring really.
But also there's some people like that.
You've never. Heard of this guy?
Because he doesn't. He's not an infomercial, you
know, He's just a guy like who has a fairly OK theory.
Like I would still hear him out, but it's it's not hearing it out
every day on end and end and end.
So yeah, you get my point. Anyway, I do.
Or you could be like me and be a contentious person and invite.
People on and then challenge them and they seem to swim and
not like being challenged and then put the word out and you
got the kibosh on you and people don't want to show anymore.
But anyway, that's we're talking about that, yeah.
Oh boy. But we're going to get in
trouble for that to your benefit.
Though like you mentioned, people, they'll do a lot of
research and they'll. Compile it and they'll get AI to
write it right. AI is still writing it like.
Are they actually? Are they?
Doing deep research where they're rewording it themselves
and or are they just copying and pasting from links online and
then getting the book written for them?
Because I can read someone's book or a piece of writing and I
can tell when AI is doing it. Because if you've heard the
person speak versus the way the person writes, yes, there is an
academic form of writing that's different from the way you
speak. But you can tell when someone's
talking and that they are in vocabulary limit to the words
that they're actually using in conversation versus what they're
putting into a whole book. True.
Bit of a red flag. True, true, true.
And honestly? Like either way you do it, it's
fine, but I don't think it should be compared to the works
that are old, you know, like these older books that, and I
think that's the only reason why I even bring it up.
But I have seen some reviews on Amazon lately.
No one in our podcast community. OK, I was just looking at some
books and literally it's like printing the day before they got
it. They were like, apparently this
is printed just for me. How weird is that?
Like they're just literally typing things into AI the night
before they sell it on Amazon. Yeah.
And you've got the mechanisms on Amazon where you had it.
Published, binded and sent out. We saw that during COVID, like
those books that came out within a day or two of events
happening, but had yeah, chapter upon chapter upon chapter of
information and it just came out so weird.
That's that to. Me is really like a new one
because you would think like, I mean, I get it, like you don't
want to waste money and I guess wait till it's sold.
But also like that doesn't tell me you have a whole lot of faith
in yourself. So I don't know.
No. And that's the Catch 22, the
balancing act that we have. You don't want to go to a lot of
these newer sources because there's a state of entropy.
I think when it comes to the occult conspiracy theories,
we're regurgitating information that's been done 20 times over,
if not more, and people have done it all.
And the occult hundreds. Yeah.
Because if not thousands. Because of thousands of years of
regurgitation. And they're not really getting
to the minutiae and the point of it.
So you're getting this very watered down version of things,
which can be dangerous because then it might sound appealing,
it might send you down the path of Gnosticism.
Then you've got the opposite side of things.
You have books like these, which were written quite a long time
ago. You can tell it's of the
language of the person that wrote it, of their station.
But then again, you have to double check their sources just
because it's a book from the 1930s.
Doesn't mean it's an academic piece of amazingness.
It's not always the case. Yep, Yep.
And even if there's some interesting.
Things in there and that are true, it doesn't make it true.
And what if you're a magician and you buy that crappy book and
you do the thing wrong and you screw yourself over and you're
screwed for the rest of your life because you did it wrong?
Exactly. You don't want to.
You don't want to practice binding demons if you.
Don't have the right things at your disposal.
I wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't do it anyway.
So yeah. But there are people out there
who because of the New Age movement.
Think they can do these things? And if you're a lion, although
from Amazon, that was printed two weeks earlier.
Probably not your best. Source Well, although Agrippa
said nothing he wrote was true and that he.
Didn't practice. OK, I'm on one.
I'm sorry, but that's real. He.
Really said that. But also they were trying to
kill witches, so I mean, yeah. I don't know, whatever.
Yeah, well, I but he wrote it himself.
Yes, there you go there. That's that's that's.
Good. He did it on himself, by
himself, that that's a man of substance right there.
But I think that's not real. So yours is, you know.
In a nutshell, people. Drews is there is a white Jesus
in Britain and I have a white feathered Jesus in Mesoamerica.
So, so sorry if we extrapolate those and combine those things.
Jesus was a white Scottish lizard dragon, and he went from
Scotland, the Hebades, and went all the way to the New World.
For some reason he needed a tan. Yeah, he needed a tan.
Scotland's dreary and there's no spices there.
Like, come on, they went all the way to.
South America to get some capsicum and bell Peppers and
chilies and tahin yes, and tahin yes.
Nothing says Jesus like let's. Sacrifice some people on an.
Altar on a giant pyramid. That's what happened.
So and you. Know the calendar thing that was
wrong, but that's OK, we'll forget about that.
And the DNA thing that was also wrong.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, don't, don't look at
those. Yeah.
You'll get excommunicated. If that didn't come through my
message, I don't know what else can't.
Don't forget Romneys are in it. Dun Dun Dun Dun.
So Dang it Hardy, if you just keep focusing on the negative.
Wrong. Things in these books you'll
never get anywhere. I know, I know.
I think I missed the point. I missed the point, I guess I
don't know. Well, we we did say the name of
this show was unfiltered. Point I think we were pretty
harsh on the authors at times, but Ouch.
But we that we take take it for. What it is, though, there's
some. Great stuff in there and there's
some really silly stuff and you kind of have to point out the
silly stuff. I'm not a going to be a fanboy
within this community and promote something that I don't
100% believe in and I'm pretty sure we know, but unfortunately.
I do see a lot of people. That jump onto a trend and then
they make their entire persona about that.
But that's true, don't you do you?
That's that's fine. You can be that person, that's
fine. I will not be that person.
Absolutely no. No.
Yeah, you guys gotta. But I will say this, anybody
that's reading books at this point in this day and age, good.
Yeah. You are the chosen people
because you read. You're a set about that's.
Right. That's right.
And if you're Mormon, you probably really.
Are you're chosen? So is this like like a burn book
situation? Where we're going to come up
with a like a Oprah Book Club seal.
But it's the Burn Book, the unfiltered, unfiltered point.
Seal of disapproval. And we pick everyone up The
point Burn this book. Burn this book.
Oh. Don't really though, sorry you
wasted your money but this one was only $5.00 so it's OK.
Hey, that's right. No, there's cool stuff in this
one. Don't burn this one.
I I think it's kind of sad because and God, do not burn
this one that's expensive. If I would if you burn this one,
jeez. Off, off, all right, especially.
When you ship to Australia, Oh Oh no, the shipping got you.
I. Yeah, the cost was bad enough,
but then when I realized the shipping cost.
Went on topos. I got my most out of reading it.
Let's. Just let's put that way.
You're like, that's all right now it goes to the shelf.
Dun Dun. Dun.
Oh no, you're going to do a thing on it.
Yeah. Although, yeah.
And I am intrigued to actually get his other books to see.
Where he's actually drawing historical parallels from
because the history is good. I think it gives a good insight
into human movements across Europe from the step and all the
different groups, which I think could give us a greater insight
into pre diluvian times. But I think he's missing the
mark in some other areas, which is OK.
And they probably killed him. No, just kidding, did.
He die. He did.
OK. I was just gonna ask, like, did
he die about death? Because my dude made it too old.
So something about being having a red handkerchief around his.
Neck and a doorknob or no, Just joking.
Oh no, look at this guy. Oh wait, look how creepy.
This guy is. Doesn't he just scream?
I'm a part of MI 6, you know, he looks just like.
He looks what's his? Oh my gosh.
Yeah. MI 6 British.
He's most likely linked to Aristotle.
He didn't smile. No, Yeah, so maybe his teeth.
Are bad but we can't tell you scream an MI 5 MI 6 for sure.
Definitely, definitely weird. Well, maybe it was planned.
Who knows, Like we definitely don't.
And my guy did go like I asked like what happened after?
Like where'd he go? And it was like, oh, he just
obscurity, like, leave him alone, OK?
He disappeared himself. That just fills you full of
confidence, doesn't it? I mean, he lived till he was in
his 80s, but yeah, he was like he.
Lived a private life. I'm like this.
So the church paid him off. You know, there's another book I
found that I'm not going to talk about right now.
Right now. But so wait, that's all I got to
do to retire is write a book about Mormonism.
They disavow and then get paid off.
You probably hold on. I'm going to chat with GPT right
now. Yeah.
It's true this guy wrote this.
Book and it's all about Dartmouth and I read this I read
this whole thing about the book I find a podcast about the book
can't find the book anywhere like.
Not for a billion dollars, I. Mean it's gone so I'm like
that's weird I don't know so if you.
Wrote that book. Come talk to me.
'Cause that's weird. If you happen to see whiskey.
Guys but weird, how about you? Some advice to listeners.
If they're looking. For.
Particular niche books. Where would you advise they try
to find them? Mine.
I'm always at the bookstore. It's in the mall, It's so easy.
For me, but it's like a second hand bookstore.
It's Eborn Books. The guy knows me by name.
He's like, hey, what's up lady that buys all the books?
Yeah, I agree. You have to go to those.
Like Little. Niche coffee shops slash they
have books up on the walls and you can buy them if you want to.
Those are good places. Amazon is hit and miss because
it's so commercialized that certain topics that will just
flag and not allow on there or they won't be on for very long.
EBay be or it'll be printed the night before on see through
paper. Yeah, yeah, Or, you know, eBay
is good because it's. It's a physical place where
people just pop there. I have seen some on what's that?
What's that book type? Etsy.
I have found books on Etsy.
That are old books, so sometimes you'll find some cool ones
there. Yeah, nice.
Well, Heidi, Read Read people. That's good.
Please read. And even if it's rubbish.
And if you have to start off with sesame.
Street in the morning going through the ABC.
Song that's fine because you will get there eventually, but
read your Bible first. Yes, and don't use AI.
To write your books. And then go on the circuit and
do other things. Caddy.
This has been fun, Heidi. And like I said to my.
We're the pointy unfiltered tonight.
Next time, we'll be unfiltered. Point I have been drew.
Mr. View of Mr. Point podcast, like I said.
I will be recording each of these chapters and putting my
thoughts to the ends of these and putting it out purely based
on the price of this book. I don't expect people to go out
there and buy it, nor would I advise you to.
If you want to, by all means, It is quite expensive.
The information is great historically and geographically,
linguistically tips all the boxes for me as a academic and
someone who loves that stuff as a hobby.
But connecting it to scripture was my bit of an issue.
Heidi, how about you? Where can listeners find you?
Awesome. I am Heidi love of the
unfiltered drives. Everywhere podcasts are served
if you want more of me because you know, you just love how I
laugh or some silly thing who knows what I am at Unfiltered
drives on Patreon as well. I do two extra shows a month.
I hate cutting episodes or doing any weird stuff like that
because it's just not me. So find me there.
I'm 5 bucks. It's like I'm not going to raise
it unless they raise the prices just because I feel that's fair
and I want to be fair to my listeners.
So thank you for following. Thank you, Drew.
As always. It is a pleasure.
Even though you're pointy unfiltered tonight.
Yeah, I can't help it. Next time it's you, I'll have to
hand you the torch. Yes, you know, you never know
with me, no. Man, our guys, we'll catch you
all next time. Bye.