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All right, welcome back, 
everybody. 

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Here we are with the lovely 
Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise 

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podcast and myself, Drew 
missing. 

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If you're missing the point, 
we're gonna have to call this 

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little collaboration the 
Unfiltered point, I think 

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because we're we're diving into 
some books. 

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On this and it's not. 
It's not an Oprah's Book Club 

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over here. 
We're really digging into the 

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minutia of our chosen books 
today and sharing with the 

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people and hopefully we've 
picked some some groundbreaking 

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information that hasn't been 
looked into too much by other 

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people. 
So how you going, Heidi? 

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It's been a little minute since 
I've seen you last time. 

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Yeah, it's not too, too long. 
Of course, I can't really see 

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Drew because he lives in the 
land of spiders that are like 

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cars, so I can't go there 
because I'm afraid. 

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But yes, it's nice to be here, 
nice to be back. 

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We've been planning this for a 
minute so that we could read our

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books, and I was already knee 
deep in this one, so it worked 

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out well. 
Thank you. 

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No problem. 
Well, let's start off. 

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Maybe we can. 
We can tell the audience about 

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who the author is, what the book
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background. 
I forgot them about the author 

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and why we chose our chosen 
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means. 
Awesome. 

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So this book, hopefully 
everybody oh that light can see 

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it. 
OK. 

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This is called the Messiah in 
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a little off the shelf banned 
the person got excommunicated 

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book from the church. 
And so the author unfortunately,

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as I've said, lost his faith 
after this. 

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Go figure. 
Every time you deep dive, but 

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I'm bum bum, you kind of leave. 
And so sadly, but this Messiah 

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in the ancient America is not 
who you might think it is. 

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That's right back in the 1960s 
when this guy started all his 

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research, which is actually 
really in depth and and pretty 

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good, but also doesn't jive with
the DNA. 

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The church wasn't counting on 
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They like the family genealogy, 
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So yeah, it kind of messes 
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So Warren Ferguson is who this 
is by and he says in this book 

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that Quetzicodol is Jesus 
Christ, that the Mormons believe

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this. 
So they threw a lot of money at 

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this. 
They threw a lot of money for 

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archaeology at this and it gets 
interesting and when I so yeah, 

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it's. 
Only a hop, skip and a jump away

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from, you know, Abraxas the 
chicken snake God to a feathered

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serpent God. 
Really. 

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That's right. 
That's right. 

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But we're not waiting to delight
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What I was gonna say, weren't 
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the Aztec and the Inca all white
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So aren't they just kind of 
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belief systems air quotes into 
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Americas and using that as a. 
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support the Book of Mormon 
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know this. 
So if you've never seen me 

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before or you don't know a lot 
about the Book of Mormon, it is 

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basically like they say, OK, the
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that's their story, right in 
Jerusalem and all this and well,

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many places, but in the Middle 
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And then so this is a book in 
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here and how they got here from 
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and and all this whole story 
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And so. 
That's the new New Testament. 

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Yes, yes. 
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proven. 
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genealogy and they they've never
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archaeology ever, not just in 
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has ever supported their claims.
Because don't forget now Drew 

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the Angel needed those plates so
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timeline thing. 
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It was due. 
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went back up to heaven and all 
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So I I particularly like the 
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were Native American and the 
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were turned that color because 
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Israel. 
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angels might have been Native 
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elevated into white Native 
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Who's this famous white? 
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the what's the name of that? 
Maroon Guy. 

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Who's the senator that says 
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Do they all look like her? 
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I don't remember that. 
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But this one is the one atop all
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And remember, how could he be an
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Just have questions here. 
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And so, you know, it kind of 
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And I'll give away the good part
of the last here. 

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Eventually with all of this book
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archaeology things and 
everything, they were going down

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with this whole Mesoamerican 
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But eventually there's this 
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or Sotherton. 
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He goes bananas crazy when DNA 
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going to prove the Book of 
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like this whole Mormon guy and, 
and he's super excited about it.

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And these aren't idiots like the
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He's like a big lawyer in 
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So these aren't like completely 
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I mean, idiots, who knows. 
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derelict in, in knowledge, at 
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And so this guy, he's like, I'm 
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You know, I'm going to tie all 
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like, shut it down. 
Like, I'm not playing with you. 

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Shut it down because I'm 
assuming they knew about DNA 

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because they're in the CIA and 
stuff, you know, way before it 

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comes out. 
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stop or we're going to 
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And it becomes this huge thing 
because the guy was like, no. 

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And so he's like kind of trying 
to prove it but also be against 

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the Mormon church, which is 
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I don't know what was going on 
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That never bodes well, right? 
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this. 
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supposed to be from the Middle 
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the story. 
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they be like, not type like, 
what kind of heritage should 

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they like? 
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What ethnic gripple if you were 
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Just a generic. 
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Lavon region? 
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style appearances? 
Right, Middle Eastern, right and

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your blood grouping and your 
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Stuff should be specific. 
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group. 
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And so I'm like, all right, you 
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science. 
And he does all this research 

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against the church. 
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He was like, I know that the 
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gonna prove everything right. 
They were Asian because we know 

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that they were right. 
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from Siberia. 
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So it really screwed the church.
So in the midst of them trying 

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to prove all this weird stuff 
and no archaeology, now we have 

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a problem with DNA as well. 
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He got in trouble. 
So I'm, I'm making a lot of 

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connections between like 
Mormonism and the whole idea of 

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the ancient America, like 
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world. 
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like conspiratorial realms and 
within on a revisionist history,

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I'll call it, there's this big 
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ancient than it actually is, 
more ancient than what the 

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artifacts say, more ancient than
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that the people say. 
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insertions from say, the Levant 
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black Israelites where you get 
African Americans who want to 

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rewrite their history as they 
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They're native to North America 
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them. 
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positions where people always 
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chosen people or the people that
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It's this scrambling to, of 
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everyone else, which seems just 
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modern day Christianity should 
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Christ died for all our sins as 
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You think that's the path, 
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That old covenant is gone. 
It's out of here. 

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That's old news. 
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with it all is this a do I think
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Do I think it is this weird 
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Nope. 
I actually, you know, I've been 

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digging into the Templars. 
Like we know there were Vikings 

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up through Nova Scotia and came 
down like we know not just them 

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either, right? 
There's native people, there's 

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Portuguese, there's all these 
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over. 
Look, that's not a hard sell for

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me. 
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Israelite thing, you know, maybe
there were some people here that

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were native to this region. 
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But I don't think it's that, 
right? 

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That's something different. 
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this, the scope of history and 
you try to tie it back to 

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biblical history, you're stopped
with a a speed bump of the 6000 

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years and you've got people who 
are adamant 6000 years or 6000 

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years. 
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timelines that have changed over
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We don't know what God's 
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time. 6000 years to God may not 
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We complete, we track it 
completely different to what 

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ancient cultures did, let alone 
a God that's created the 

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universe. 
And we've got this weird 

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insertion of ancient must mean 
monolithic structures, huge 

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civilizations, flying cars, and 
all the trappings of an 

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Atlantis, when ancient could 
just mean hundreds of thousands 

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of years of habitation. 
And we get lost to, to your 

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point, in my book, they taught, 
they try to make the calendars 

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connect, right? 
They do this. 

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This is so much fun. 
And I have to tell you, you 

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know, I will say this for 
whoever wrote this book at the 

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end of it, it has some awesome 
pictures, OK. 

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It also teaches you a lot of 
things that are about 

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Mesoamerica, which is cool, you 
know, And there's a whole bunch 

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of just indexed information, 
whether or not it fits the 

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narrative, that's different. 
But that facts are the facts, 

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right? 
There's facts in this book that 

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they're trying to pull, like 
into the narrative, which isn't 

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really working too good for 
them. 

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But hey, you know, you hit right
on one of the points, which was 

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they tried to mess with the 
calendar and say, oh, yeah, see,

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this is part of the reason 
because the calendars align and 

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they knew about the Old 
Testament and this and this and 

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this. 
So yeah, you're not wrong. 

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Yeah. 
This, this is that that really 

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thing that that bugs me a little
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And I've worked harder in 
reading my book than I have any 

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other book because it's not just
reading the book, it's reading 

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the claims and where they source
their claims from. 

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Like you mentioned, they've got 
their facts and facts are facts.

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And generally the facts are 
black and white, but where are 

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they sourcing them from? 
Can they be trusted sources? 

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Are are are we doing the legwork
of actually checking the sources

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themselves? 
Because a lot of people, they'll

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read a book, say it's got an 
index and references, and 

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they'll go, Oh yeah, they'll 
just assume the author's done 

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their due diligence. 
When you're researching this 

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type of stuff, you can't leave 
it to chance. 

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I've done more work checking the
sources than I have actually 

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reading the content of this 
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And this is. 
Where I think. 

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People in our people in our 
little world, they slip up and 

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they slip up big when they just 
trust something because it's in 

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print form. 
Not to say that everything's 

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misinformation by by any means. 
We know that history has been 

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rewritten. 
It's been toyed with, it's been 

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played with, but at the same 
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we're doing the right thing to 
make sure we're not just 

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spurting out a psyop that was 
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into our modern time. 
Yes, exactly. 

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And we know that. 
Look, we already know all this 

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stuff. 
Like we know Columbus wasn't the

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first. 
Like they've even stopped doing 

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the day. 
Like, let's be realistic here. 

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We're not saying that we don't 
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But it's always too, Tristan, a 
lie. 

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It's always. 
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And they'll feel it with facts. 
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Yeah, you put 1 little mistruth 
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the weed starts to grow. 
Oh yeah. 

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So I don't know if you want me 
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to introduce your book first. 
Maybe better that way. 

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Which way do you want to do? 
Well, I might add mine in 

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because I think mine ties in 
yours a little bit. 

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Oh fun. 
I've chosen Commons Beaumont. 

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Oh, that up there written the 
key to world history. 

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This isn't really the first book
you should dive into him with 

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his content. 
He's got a lot before this. 

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Commons Beaumont interesting 
little character. 

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And I came at this from the lens
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single group, every culture 
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their own stories. 
And we see those common trends 

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every time we listen to a story.
The biggest aspects of that 

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story tend to be the moral story
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why you should live as a good 
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The smaller details like names, 
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change over time, but the 
underlying message tends to stay

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the same. 
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theorists or revisionist 
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connections between these 
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separated by hundreds of years 
or thousands of years and oceans

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because it's the same underlying
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Like I say, here's an example 
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Heidi, Jack and the Bean stalk 
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Heidi and the gigantic corn 
stalk where it involves a 

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network. 
Hey, Corn is in my story. 

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It takes place in Utah and the 
the the little dialectic of it 

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that you have to remember. 
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foe fum. 
I smelled the blood of an exmo 

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mum. 
Hey, the story is good one the. 

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Story is practically the same. 
It's just a few little details 

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that have changed. 
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going out, getting some wealth 
for your family, coming down and

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slaying the monster, that 
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The details can change, but 
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story. 
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continent, every culture, every 
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For my reasoning, I think it's a
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something happening. 
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been adjusted. 
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same. 
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itself through this, through 
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We see these incidents entails 
they pop up again and again, and

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I tend to think it's all coming 
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cataclysmic event, whether that 
was God flooding the Earth or if

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you're a a interstellar body 
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hitting the earth and ending 
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All these things can be at the 
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think we're just looking at it 
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Absolutely. 
The the big contentious issue 

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with all of this is though, is 
when does the location actually 

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matter? 
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matters in these situations. 
It's crucial when you have a 

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chosen people linked to a 
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And I kind of allude to this 
before where there's this 

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scrambling of a few little out 
there fringe groups would really

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trying to make it that they're 
the true chosen people. 

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Like it matters. 
That's the old government. 

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It really doesn't matter now. 
But people are still scrambling 

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and going down the route of my 
ethnic groups better than your 

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group because we were chosen by 
God and my skin colour is 

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better. 
All this stuff is wasted now, 

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yet we're still fighting over it
as a people, which is very, very

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strange. 
So when we tie in these 

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amplified ideas of storytelling,
when it links back to the Bible 

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and the origins of the Hebrews 
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movement, the Old World, 
America, the list goes on with 

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all these people that are coming
to it. 

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Commons Beaumont takes it in a 
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He'd links it back to Britain as
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geographical people come from. 
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The are they white and delight 
some too well. 

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They'd be Anglo, They're always 
trying Germanic people, so 

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they're always trying. 
So not trying to go a 

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confirmation bias on this just 
because I'm a white guy, but 

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I've never really heard of it 
from this perspective before 

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outside of Box Saga. 
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compelling when it comes to 
linguistic analysis. 

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So I thought this was quite 
interesting in how this 

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gentleman came to this 
conclusion. 

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So I've got to give you a bit of
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Yours is from what? 
From what? 

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The 70s, correct? 
Yes, this guy's I think 19871987

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but he started started stuff in 
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Cool, cool. 
This goes back way further. 

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So Commons. 
Beaumont, colorfully known as 

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The Rebel in Fleet Street, was a
British author, lecturer, editor

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and journalist at the Daily 
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Born in 1873, died in 1955. 
He was a man from a very 

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different time, a time when 
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perspective on the oranges of 
European culture. 

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But that all changed and I think
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event that caused that. 
A little mustache man from 

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Austria who liked to paint. 
Oh yeah, he loved his niece. 

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Yeah, his use of a certain term 
changed historical academia 

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forever, and I think we know 
that word is Aryan. 

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Aryan now is conflated with 
ethnocentrism and and racism and

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all the the horrible trappings 
of humanity. 

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But it's an actual name that was
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Europe, men and women of Europe.
It's they call them proto 

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Europeans now for the PC term. 
And he kind of tracks the the 

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Aryan peoples and how they apply
to later stories that come 

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along. 
And he proposes that these later

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stories are just recalling the 
same event, and they're 

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transcribing the locations and 
names to regional areas to suit 

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their people. 
And he leans heavily on Greek 

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culture for this. 
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Nineteen 40s, Greek culture, the
Greco Roman was still seen as 

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the pinnacle of civilization for
the West. 

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So he does talk about that quite
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So it's quite intriguing, 
intriguing. 

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He published a series of books 
between 1932 and 1949, including

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titles such as The Mysterious 
Comet, The Riddle of Prehistoric

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Britain, The Great Deception, 
and the book that I'm going to 

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talk to you about today. 
Here's some of his more 

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extraordinary claims there, and 
I like to get your thoughts on 

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these. 
Of Nazareth was crucified 

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outside Edinburgh, Scotland, the
site of ancient Jerusalem. 

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So the Scots of the the Scots of
the Jews. 

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Yay for us. 
I mean, hey, I'm Irish and 

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Scottish. 
There we go. 

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Satan Satan was a comet that 
collided with Earth and caused 

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Noah's flood. 
How fun. 

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The ancient Egyptians were in 
fact Irishmen. 

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Hal can be found in western 
Scotland. 

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Well, there's a few places in 
Scotland that wouldn't want to 

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go without some protection. 
It's a pretty rough place. 

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The Greek hero Achille spent his
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Galilee. 
The birth place of Jesus was 

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Wales and ancient Athens is in 
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Oh boy, I I dare say I think the
Mormons knew about this one. 

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Yikes. 
So again, we've got another, 

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it's a different perspective. 
Again, we've got someone from 

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Anglo, Celtic, Germanic, 
Northern European perspective 

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claiming that potentially those 
are the true chosen people. 

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And I only, I only bring this to
our attention because it does 

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matter in the sense of 
geographics with a new covenant,

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it doesn't really matter. 
But at the same time, we've got 

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whole swaths of people around 
the world who are pushing their 

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supremacy on the world based on 
their perceived genealogy. 

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And if that could be disproven, 
it makes things very 

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uncomfortable for the world. 
And I'm not saying. 

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It goes either way. 
This book was just an 

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interesting perspective to have 
a look at and consider a few 

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possibilities. 
Wow OK so was this Jesus 

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redheaded? 
Is this the one that I'm 

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thinking of? 
I've I've heard something about 

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a redheaded Jesus. 
I can't remember the story. 

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OK, well, that would make sense 
for a few things that I know of,

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but that's that's weird. 
It sounds like he definitely 

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what what proof does he have of 
any of this stuff? 

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Like is he just pulling this out
of his He's nowhere. 

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He's. 
Actually referencing a lot of 

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works of academia at the time. 
Now the problem with academia at

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that time, there's been new 
discoveries since the 1930s and 

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40s. 
People have gone through the 

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linguistical drifts of stories 
and have kind of redirected them

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to other parts of the world. 
So I think for the most part 

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he's trying to source himself 
well enough. 

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I haven't been able to get a 
hold of some of these sources 

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because they're not available on
the Internet. 

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I'd actually have to go to 
Britain's and search through 

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some libraries to get them. 
For the most part he's trying 

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his hardest to retell the 
cataclysm of Noah and Atlantis 

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being the same event, which I 
don't think he's wrong in that 

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location could be very 
different. 

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I think this is more so a 
worldwide situation opposed to a

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geographically located event. 
In the Bible it tells us the 

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world was flooded, but was it 
the world of the region that was

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flooded as opposed to the world 
itself? 

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If you look at events that we 
now know of, like the end of the

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younger driest period in which a
comet impacted mile highs, ice 

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sheets in North America flash 
flooding most of the world's 

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coastline. 
That if you're a scientifically 

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minded person, which I am also, 
I don't throw the baby out the 

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bathwater. 
That could make sense for the 

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flood. 
And I, I, this is the thing that

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becomes really hard for me as 
someone who's who's been an 

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academic and is very intrigued 
by the historical context of 

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this, is that science is the 
mechanism for understanding 

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God's creation. 
I think we have to use that in 

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line with Bible and Scripture. 
And if the Scripture backs it 

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up, not the other way around, 
then it works. 

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We don't take a piece of 
science, science data and then 

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go to the Bible. 
You have to go to the Bible. 

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OK, let's look at the world and 
let's look for that evidence. 

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And I think there's aspects of 
Younger Dryas which actually 

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aligned with that really well. 
So what is he inclined to on his

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religion? 
Does he have a anything? 

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Is he biased? 
I think he's more of a he would 

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come across as someone who is 
agnostic at best. 

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I think he he could very quickly
go into the realm of Gnosticism 

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because that's. 
What I was? 

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Wondering, searching for all the
lost information, finding the 

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sources, which is a dangerous 
place to be at best. 

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I hope he's he was agnostic in 
this. 

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He does try to rename, 
reposition a lot of biblical 

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locations, but ultimately his 
main hypothesis of these 

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viewpoints is that the Greeks of
the time he talks about were 

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limited by their geographical 
location in the world. 

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That was simply applying older 
stories that they'd heard and 

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had passed down orally to their 
regional area. 

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They were renaming places, 
renaming people. 

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So it fits their own culture and
their time. 

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And it takes into account the 
movement of northern European 

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tribes, the Aryans, as we've 
discussed earlier, from far 

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north down into the 
Mediterranean, as opposed to the

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Fertile Crescent out into the 
West, the rest of the world, 

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which aligns with what we're 
seeing in Agri architecture and 

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agricultural growth. 
It actually came from the steppe

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region, then spread out and 
didn't start in the virtual 

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Crescent. 
So there's parts of history 

455
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,080
which are coming to the 
forefront now, which are backing

456
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,720
up some of his original 
conclusions. 

457
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,880
Where does his research really 
take him? 

458
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,360
So here's some links and a few 
dot points that I've kind of 

459
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:48,280
been looking at that just 
alarmed me that Atlantis in a 

460
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,600
particular Finnish root 
language, which is connected to 

461
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,920
Box Saga, means all land ice. 
And if you're coming from an 

462
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,720
area in the world which either 
was wiped out from a flood in 

463
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,320
the Great North or flash froze 
in the Great North, you'd be 

464
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,200
forced to go South, you'd be 
forced to go for warmer areas 

465
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,920
and you'd be forced to invade 
people. 

466
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,040
I think that's the part of 
history we've always been told 

467
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,280
the Vikings just raping and 
pillaging and going home. 

468
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,640
They didn't do that in reality. 
They went to England, they went 

469
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,640
to France, and they set up 
colonies. 

470
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,400
They didn't go home all that 
often for a reason. 

471
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,080
It's almost as if the lands they
came from were becoming less 

472
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,240
hospitable every day, and they 
knew it. 

473
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,080
They were driven by sheer 
necessity. 

474
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,760
And this kind of drives this 
story that he's telling, that 

475
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,520
the Greeks were just 
regurgitating something that 

476
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,200
their ancestors had passed on to
them orally before any kind of 

477
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,960
recorded written word was put 
down. 

478
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,080
Wow. 
This gets interesting. 

479
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,480
This gets interesting. 
I think since we're deep in it, 

480
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,840
we should just keep going with 
yours 'cause it, it's, it's hot.

481
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,400
It's it's going down that line, 
yeah. 

482
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,040
I have a full word that I'd like
to read. 

483
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,400
It's a tad long, but I think 
it's worth it. 

484
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,040
I've actually mentioned to you 
outside of the show that I'll 

485
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280
probably end up recording each 
of these chapters and putting it

486
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,280
out on my show and then maybe 
giving my thoughts on it at the 

487
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,760
end. 
Like I said, not to be focused 

488
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,640
on he's right or he's wrong, 
It's just good, something that's

489
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,080
good to consider and take on 
board because we're hearing all 

490
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,560
these theories all the time and 
we don't want theories to 

491
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,320
influence the actual belief 
systems. 

492
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Our belief systems should impact
the way we're looking at 

493
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,960
theories. 
We should be able to go straight

494
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
away. 
No, that's garbage because I 

495
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,200
know from this aspect and in 
scripture that is backed up by 

496
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,360
this historical account, whereas
what you've given me is 

497
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,520
revisionist history. 
And as they have a click bait, 

498
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,880
we see it far too often. 
But being aware of it, just like

499
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880
the occult, it's good to know 
the enemy's tools so you don't 

500
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,960
fall for it. 
All right, This is the forward. 

501
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,080
This volume is a companion to 
the work of the Riddle of a 

502
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Prehistoric Britain, in which I 
endeavoured to prove by evidence

503
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400
gathered over wide field from 
ancient modern sources, the 

504
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,120
British Isles were heavily 
civilized from the earliest 

505
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,120
times. 
And indeed that Britain may be 

506
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,800
proudly enthroned as the true 
and original mother of 

507
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,960
civilization, I claimed on 
evidence produced that it 

508
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,520
supposedly lost this lost island
or drowned island continent. 

509
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Given the name Atlantis by Plato
was not a mere romance or myth 

510
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,640
without substance as is 
generally believed, but On the 

511
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,320
contrary is the serious epitome 
of the most stupendous natural 

512
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,640
catastrophe which has ever 
affected the human race, both 

513
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720
because of the magnitude and the
severity of the visitation. 

514
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,480
I sought, moreover, to prove 
that the Atlantean calamity was 

515
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,840
a variation, in other words, of 
the flood of Noah or the Greeks 

516
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600
termed it the deluge. 
Now he's already starting to use

517
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,920
some terms that we would 
recognize as being very Gnostic,

518
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,360
but he's tying in some 
historical accounts that I think

519
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:55,760
at best for people like us could
prove that the pre deluge 

520
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,920
Adamites and you know, the world
that was before the flood. 

521
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Like if these people had 
conquered the world and had a 

522
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,000
great amount of culture and 
civilization, kind of lends 

523
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,640
itself to think that maybe their
leaders were Nephilim or 

524
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,920
Nephilim hybrids. 
For this purpose, evidence was 

525
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400
derived from geographical, 
geological, astronomical, 

526
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
historical and legendary sources
to the effect that this magic 

527
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920
catastrophe afflicted Northern 
and Western Europe, mainly the 

528
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,640
Scandinavian lands and beyond 
all the British islands. 

529
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
I claimed, in fact, that 
Atlantis Island was no other 

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,920
than the British Isles itself, 
which bear the scars of that 

531
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,200
catastrophe to this day, that 
Atlantis was not permanently 

532
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,520
submerged, or even much of it, 
tremendous though the ultimate 

533
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,360
effects were. 
These islands I showed were the 

534
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,360
true Hebades or Happy Islands of
yore and are known to have been 

535
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,360
inhabited from the earliest 
Paleolithic or Old Stone Age 

536
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280
onwards, and were the original 
domicile, the sons of Adam who 

537
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,000
were the Titans or giants of 
classic fame, as well as being 

538
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,480
Atlanteans of Plato. 
So he's already. 

539
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,880
Positioning at that. 
There's seed war stuff, but from

540
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,600
the other side that Adam's sons 
were the Nephilim giants. 

541
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,840
So we get into all these 
dialectical issues, but it's 

542
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320
just, it's so interesting. 
And I, I think it's interesting 

543
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,200
because a lot of people take 
this stuff on board as gospel 

544
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,440
because it's in a book. 
But like, like we discussed, 

545
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,360
there's one lie amongst all the 
truths. 

546
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080
If the history and the 
demographic movements and the 

547
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,040
people moving around the planet 
are true, then there's a truth 

548
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,480
in maybe the dark side of things
that, that they really existed. 

549
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,160
And I think that's the probably 
the conversation that people 

550
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960
need to start having is where is
the truth and where is the lie. 

551
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
And why and why is the lie? 
Exactly. 

552
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720
Yes. 
I'll keep going. 

553
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960
My object, may I point out, was 
far greater than any mere 

554
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,880
academic effort, as some critics
seem to imagine, to identify 

555
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Atlantis. 
The disaster of Atlantis was 

556
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080
only indirectly my theme. 
For the matters in this may lie 

557
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,680
which still lie beyond these 
facts. 

558
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120
As facts are claimed, they are 
on the evidence. 

559
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
For it were the flood of the 
Scriptures. 

560
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,040
It thereby brings us into the 
Northern European continent, 

561
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Europe, the nations related to 
the event directly or indirectly

562
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
such as the Chaldeans, 
Egyptians, Israelites, Helene's 

563
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,560
and Greeks and many others. 
It cannot be isolated as such, 

564
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280
for it challenges the long 
accepted beliefs and dogma of 

565
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,760
the flood occurred in the Middle
East and supposedly original 

566
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,040
Chaldea, as to which 
incidentally, in spite of most 

567
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,000
careful investigations even 
within the recent years, these 

568
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,240
exist not a title of solid 
geographical or geological other

569
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520
evidence to support such a 
calamity in those regions alone.

570
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Also it corrects and must 
correct and I must understand 

571
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,000
and underestimate and estimate 
the long accepted claims in 

572
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,880
relation to the lands we term 
Assyria, Egypt, Palestine, and I

573
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,960
fear necessarily disputes the 
accuracy of the modernist 

574
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440
interpretations from inscribed 
stones to papyrus. 

575
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480
In other words, we have been 
misled by these matters. 

576
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120
My sole aim is to get the truth 
regarding the past as it bears 

577
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200
in many striking ways upon the 
present. 

578
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840
But let me say, if the further 
claims I advanced in this work 

579
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
are sustained, it must logically
signify that the segregation of 

580
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,400
the Bible history as a thing 
apart from equivalent classic 

581
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,320
peoples, has piled up completely
false conceptions and valuations

582
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520
regarding the history in nations
of the past times. 

583
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400
For example, I produce evidence 
to show that the Uranids of 

584
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Crete, which Crete was accepted 
by the Greeks, Greeks at least, 

585
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720
or the motherland of the 
original race of mankind, were 

586
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600
the equivalent to the people of 
ER or the Chaldeys, the book of 

587
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120
the Genesis. 
And they dwells not in the 

588
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Orient or Mediterranean, but in 
the British Isles. 

589
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,840
So he goes on and on to to 
reclassify areas as being 

590
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,520
British. 
And he does a really good job at

591
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,880
following the linguistical path 
that goes from say the 

592
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040
Mediterranean through into 
Central Europe into Northern 

593
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Europe. 
He follows that path of 

594
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,320
linguistics really well. 
And my take away from this is 

595
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,560
that the linguistical path is 
probably real, that people 

596
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,000
probably did start off in the 
northern hemisphere and start 

597
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200
their cultures. 
But I don't think it was 

598
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,640
necessarily the tribe of Adam, 
more along the lines of maybe it

599
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920
was the principalities and the 
kingdoms of the Nephilim at the 

600
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,360
time that they had started. 
And that brings us to another 

601
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,840
contentious issue. 
When you start talking about 

602
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,240
tribes and who's the chosen, you
quickly put everyone else into 

603
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600
the outer. 
And I think we that's why I have

604
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,560
to reemphasize that the new 
covenant dismisses all that and 

605
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320
it really doesn't matter. 
Yes, Yep. 

606
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,640
We're all supposed to be the 
same now. 

607
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,640
But the yeah, it's still, it's 
still such a I'm the chosen. 

608
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,840
No, I'm the chosen and this and 
that and and, you know, I don't 

609
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,480
know if you know this, but 
Mormon's still. 

610
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,320
So we get this thing called the 
patriarchal blessing when we're 

611
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,800
like between 14 and 18 and they 
tell us what tribe we're from. 

612
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,440
It's all baloney. 
It's just by divination. 

613
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,320
They literally anoint you with 
oil and give you this blessing 

614
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,640
by the patriarch. 
And he's the, he's like a 

615
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840
prophet of, of the church. 
He, he does this, these 

616
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
patriotic blessings is like, 
that's his only job. 

617
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,880
And so, you know, they put their
hands on your head and they 

618
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920
record the whole thing and they 
type it up for you. 

619
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,440
And it's all the blessings if 
you do what you're supposed to 

620
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,160
and live all the right ways and 
blah, blah, blah. 

621
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,840
But they tell you what tribe 
you're from. 

622
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,440
So like me, I'm the tribe of 
Ephraim, so that's, you know, 

623
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Mary Magdalene. 
And then Joseph Smith was the 

624
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,320
tribe of both Ephraim and 
Manasseh, making him the perfect

625
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
specimen of Jesus. 
In Mermaid of course gave 

626
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
himself the best faces. 
Ragsdeus Yeah. 

627
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,280
All right. 
So still like I'm saying, but 

628
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,840
look at all the importance they 
put on that. 

629
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040
That's like a big deal. 
I mean, and why? 

630
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
They emphasize that type of 
stuff, but they they try to 

631
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,160
detract people from looking at 
the cultural and linguistic 

632
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,040
growth over time. 
Like we look at modern day 

633
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,840
nations and then name has a root
name for a reason. 

634
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,920
Modern day Palestine is named 
that because of the Philistines.

635
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,520
We have Denmark, the Denmark, 
the tribe of Dan. 

636
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,360
We've got all these tribes that 
are represented throughout the 

637
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,360
world by their name and we can 
see it's particularly the 

638
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,600
Denmark, there's rivers and 
there's locations leading all 

639
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,120
the way to Denmark that mean the
tribe of Dan. 

640
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440
It's just linguistically 
different per region. 

641
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080
It has the same meaning. 
So we can track a growth of a 

642
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,360
tribe or a people quite easily. 
But it's it's quite interesting 

643
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,720
that we've got religions or 
organized religions rather that 

644
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,280
are trying to pigeonhole people 
into being the better, being the

645
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,840
greater, so that there's some 
kind of authority over over 

646
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,240
others, which is it's completely
in the face of what crisis tried

647
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,080
to teach us. 
Yep. 

648
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,600
I mean, isn't it always though? 
Like this gets us into a lot of 

649
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,000
trouble throughout always, 
right? 

650
00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:00,040
But this is yeah, Yep. 
So I'm bringing in some more 

651
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,120
things, you know, it's just my, 
my notes are from reading this, 

652
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,200
so I'm not actually 
regurgitating all the books for 

653
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,760
your listeners because it's 
going to be a bit dry. 

654
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600
It is older English, even though
it was only from the 30's. 

655
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,040
The way in which he wrote and 
spoke, he's a very academic, 

656
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,400
well educated Brit sorry for the
majority of Americans. 

657
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800
So it's stuffy. 
Not, yeah, not to typecast you 

658
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,000
guys. 
I don't think you're going to go

659
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,800
out and get the nuance from 
reading this verbatim, so I'll 

660
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,520
just give you some some of the 
dot points in this. 

661
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,719
The gods in Pagan Europe are 
often referred to as coming from

662
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,040
where the north winds come. 
The north winds, we've got all 

663
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,960
the places of which gods reside 
on mountains and N winds come 

664
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,320
from there. 
The winds and the mountains are 

665
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,239
the strongest. 
Well, where do the north winds 

666
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,920
come from? 
In Europe? 

667
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960
They blow down from Scandinavia.
If you've got a people who were 

668
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,360
technologically more advanced 
than their neighbors at the time

669
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,280
and they came S because they 
were driven out by, say, God's 

670
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,199
wrath and they had to conquer 
new lands to survive, they would

671
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,679
appear as gods to less advanced 
people. 

672
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,400
Or we've got, like I mentioned, 
the younger driest impact, 

673
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,280
potentially flooding coastlines 
and low lands of the world that 

674
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,240
were inhabited by people. 
We've got this as these low 

675
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,560
lands that have been wiped out. 
The majority of the knowledge 

676
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520
and the culture that and the 
accomplishments of these people 

677
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,480
is gone. 
But we've also got an historical

678
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,200
account that's backed up by 
modern academia called Dogaland.

679
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,560
Have you've heard of this place 
before? 

680
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,480
Dogal and stretched across the 
region between what is now known

681
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,280
as East Coast, Britain Island, 
France, Belgium, Netherlands, 

682
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Germany and the Danish peninsula
of Jute land. 

683
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,720
I wonder what that land was 
named after? 

684
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Jute Land? 
That was 10,000 years ago, 10 to

685
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080
7000 years ago. 
We know that a lot of cataclysms

686
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,720
happened 10,000 years ago 
worldwide. 

687
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,320
For whatever reason, megafauna 
in Australia died off at that 

688
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,800
time. 
They were all wiped out. 

689
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,760
Couldn't have just been the 
aboriginals in their hungry 

690
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,320
bellies. 
They were wiped out by climate 

691
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,280
change, as academia would want 
us to believe. 

692
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,560
But there was this mass 
destruction worldwide that wiped

693
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200
out peoples and animals. 
Sea levels rose. 

694
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,120
He's nailing a lot of the 
science really well, which is 

695
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400
great because we can use that. 
We can take that to the bank 

696
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,160
when it comes to scripture. 
It's where he tries to tie in 

697
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,880
the more gnostic belief systems,
I think, tries to steer us off 

698
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,920
our path. 
So like, for example, the 

699
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,280
historical counts of northern 
tribes coming down South, not to

700
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920
raid, pillage or plunder, but to
establish colonies, new homes 

701
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160
happened twice throughout 
recorded history. 

702
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440
The modern one we know of is 
Vikings. 

703
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,960
It's in popular culture. 
We imagine the long ships and 

704
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,240
the horned helmets, which aren't
accurate at all by the way, 

705
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,920
coming in, raping and pillaging,
taking what they want and going 

706
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,760
back home. 
That to go a Viking meant was 

707
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,880
like a wanderlust. 
You wanted to leave your home to

708
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680
find something better. 
And if your home is frozen and 

709
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,240
destroyed, you have to find 
something better. 

710
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,840
That was the later accounts. 
Earlier accounts of the exact 

711
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,320
same people genetically are the 
Goths, the Visigoths, the 

712
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Angles, the Saxons. 
They both came from northern 

713
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,240
Germany, southern Denmark, and 
they went to England as well. 

714
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
So there could have been two 
successive waves of these people

715
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,040
going into a new land to 
survive. 

716
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,120
So he's got this history to back
it up. 

717
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,720
And then you look at the way 
that the climates of the north 

718
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,960
have changed. 
At one time, it'd be very hard 

719
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
to believe they had wine 
vineyards in Scandinavia. 

720
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,760
So they brought back grapes with
them and grew vine vines of wine

721
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
convenience that were there. 
Today, you can't do that. 

722
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,040
The people that went to people 
who went to Iceland and tried to

723
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080
set colonies there, they lived 
there and Greenland very well 

724
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,320
for a long time until they were 
driven out because of an ice 

725
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
flow. 
So there's some big events. 

726
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,320
Things got very cold very 
quickly and they were forced to 

727
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,720
leave. 
And when you take into account 

728
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,920
the idea of when hell freezes 
over and you think of some of 

729
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,640
the games of the places like 
Helsinki, Helsinki's cold a lot.

730
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Well, that's that's just funny. 
I'm sorry I interrupt. 

731
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,200
I was like, Oh well. 
And then you've got these ideas 

732
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,840
of the mammoths that died out, 
They're flash frozen, they've 

733
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040
got vegetation in their mouth 
that's more akin to tropical 

734
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,240
regions. 
So the regions of northern 

735
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,840
Europe have over time become 
more pine like. 

736
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,000
And at one point we're probably 
quite habitable for most life 

737
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,080
forms. 
Humans, animals, they could 

738
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,320
thrive there. 
It was a very sudden shift in 

739
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,760
climate. 
And this kind of lends to the 

740
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,080
people who believe it was a 
impact fire, a comet that should

741
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,920
cause that to happen. 
Maybe it's the poles reversing, 

742
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,960
or it's the drift of the 
northern poles, who knows, But 

743
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,720
there's something has happened 
and he's trying his best in this

744
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,880
book to try and link it to 
regional changes and more of a 

745
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:52,080
gnostic spin, which is a bit 
spooky for people who would read

746
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,720
this as gospel and not look 
further. 

747
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Well, and how many people do 
that? 

748
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,440
How many even read read well 
anyway? 

749
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Yeah, I think, you know, someone
within our realm of influence 

750
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,000
could pick this up who aren't 
too well versed and they could 

751
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
read this and they can do an 
entire series on this alone and 

752
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,160
it would get lots of clicks and 
become really famous. 

753
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,880
They'd probably end up on all 
sorts of big name shows and it 

754
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,640
would get a lot of reach. 
But they haven't done the due 

755
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,680
diligence. 
And I think that's what I've 

756
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,160
tried to do. 
I'm pulling out the the gems 

757
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,640
amongst it all. 
But I think he's probably 100% 

758
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120
on the science, 100% on the 
cultural drift. 

759
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,480
I think maybe the locations 
could be exaggerated a little 

760
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,920
bit. 
How about yours when it comes to

761
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,960
just a little bit? 
How about yours though? 

762
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,080
Like ancient America with the 
black and delight gods that 

763
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,280
influence the. 
Best of Americans. 

764
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,760
He actually talks to that too. 
He refers to the Americas as 

765
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,160
being a colony for the Aryans 
who ultimately failed in the New

766
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Worlds. 
So there's the link right there.

767
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Well, you know, so one of the 
things that they're trying to 

768
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,840
prove with this whole situation 
is that Jesus, you know, when he

769
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000
he was missing, right? 
For those couple days that he 

770
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,600
came here to America, to 
Mesoamerica and that that. 

771
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,360
I think, you know, I think he 
could fly if he was the white 

772
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,040
serpent God. 
Doesn't he have wings? 

773
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,560
I don't know. 
But this is their backing for 

774
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,320
it, right? 
Like any little thing that they 

775
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,040
pick in here, they're like, oh, 
but look, it's because blah. 

776
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,520
Oh, but look, it's because this.
And then every single time they 

777
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,320
do it, they're like, oops, look 
now, don't look now because the 

778
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,240
DNA doesn't align right. 
Like all these things, they're 

779
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,280
constantly having to go 
backward. 

780
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,560
But ultimately, this is all 
about, you know, for me, this is

781
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,720
a great book on a lot of things 
that are true, like you said, 

782
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,720
like so much information about 
these gods and like all 

783
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,560
different things. 
And he gives really good 

784
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,880
archaeological stuff on that. 
That doesn't mean that's not 

785
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,160
true, but trying to connect the 
dots to make it work, to give 

786
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,480
some credence to the Book of 
Mormon, because we know that 

787
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640
there's not one single piece of 
archaeological evidence. 

788
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,920
And that's what they're 
constantly fighting about. 

789
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,760
You know, we have the hill 
Kimura and and the church owns 

790
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,120
it now. 
And so people have often said, 

791
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,480
dig it up. 
You know, Moroni, the Angel said

792
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,040
they had these great big battles
here, bigger than any other 

793
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,480
battle. 
All these people died. 

794
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Everybody died. 
So where's the bodies, you know?

795
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,880
So dig it up, Right. 
Well, they're not going to dig 

796
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,280
it up. 
First of all, it's a sacred 

797
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,400
mound. 
But second of all, just to make 

798
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800
sure it doesn't ever have that 
happen, they planted a bunch of 

799
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120
trees. 
So they're like, we can't, we 

800
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,400
can't disturb the we, they're 
sacred. 

801
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Actually, they are sacred trees.
They're called witness trees 

802
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,560
because they witnessed Joseph 
Smith talking to God. 

803
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000
So we can't do that. 
And even if one falls over, 

804
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Drew, we can't move it or do 
anything with it. 

805
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,880
It just has to. 
Peacefully. 

806
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,120
Right. 
They can't. 

807
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,600
You know how many people would 
pay a lot of money for that 

808
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,840
tree? 
I even looked that up. 

809
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaking of vetting things, I'm 
like, wonder if you could buy 1,

810
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,720
You know, like a a dead tree. 
A Nope, not even a dead tree. 

811
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:17,280
But don't. 
Get a rocking chair made out of 

812
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,200
a witness tree. 
Well, and they won't even. 

813
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,280
They. 
Won't even confirm right. 

814
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,400
They won't even. 
And if you get into weird stuff 

815
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,680
like the whole thing, this is 
off topic, Speaking of books, 

816
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,480
but I've got an episode coming 
up with the Golden Bough. 

817
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,200
OK, the golden the Golden Bough 
talks about tree worship and all

818
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,720
this stuff. 
And and I was like, this is 

819
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,760
really new on some Book of 
Mormon stuff here. 

820
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,360
I think he read the Golden 
Bough. 

821
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480
But like, they won't even 
confirm what kind of trees 

822
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,320
because I was trying to do 
studying on it. 

823
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,920
Right? 
Are the witness trees? 

824
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,760
But no, no, we mustn't know 
that. 

825
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,240
So it's just constant with this,
like you're just going to pull 

826
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,840
stuff out of the air then and 
make a book about it to try and 

827
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,280
see how it will stick. 
Like that's how it feels. 

828
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,640
It's probably really good cherry
picking from these people and 

829
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,440
it, like you said, if you've got
all the truths lined up and it's

830
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,000
building a picture and you're 
starting to see what it is, you 

831
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920
can quite easily force bits and 
pieces from another puzzle set 

832
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,240
into it and make it kind of 
work. 

833
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,240
And I. 
And don't, don't forget, he 

834
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,720
drops. 
He's a name dropper of all the, 

835
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,520
like, famousy people. 
Like the Marriotts. 

836
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Sounds familiar. 
Yeah. 

837
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Like those Marriotts. 
Yeah, like the hotel ones. 

838
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,760
They're Mormons. 
And so, you know, he does a lot 

839
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,840
of name dropping here. 
Oh, you know, I don't know if 

840
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,920
he's trying to just make them 
extra, more important because 

841
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,080
they're already important, 
right. 

842
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,960
They're the right tribe and all 
that stuff, like it. 

843
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Just elitism. 
Does he defer to what if isms 

844
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,680
when he's his position isn't as 
strong as it could be? 

845
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,440
Like if he doesn't have the 
backup of the academia, the the 

846
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,160
history, the biblical sources he
throws in a what if he's an 

847
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,640
example would be, I know from 
the Americas that say that 

848
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
battle occurred. 
There's this massive battle or 

849
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,720
say battles between giants and 
Native Americans. 

850
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Well, we can't find the bones of
the giants because the 

851
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Smithsonian has all of them. 
So we've got no evidence. 

852
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,720
But I, I'm telling you, the 
Smithsonian has those bones. 

853
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Well, we have to take a few 
words. 

854
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,520
Yeah, there was some things that
actually did end up in the 

855
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Smithsonian and somehow there 
was a fire. 

856
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,280
So, Drew, it's like you read my 
mind. 

857
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:29,280
But that, yeah, he what he likes
to do is say things and tie him 

858
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,920
into exactly what yours is. 
Like this cataclysm happened, 

859
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,920
that cataclysm happened, blah, 
blah, blah. 

860
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,400
And I can get into it when we do
it. 

861
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Like, I'll tell you what, what's
what. 

862
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,320
But he definitely includes like 
all these things to like, oh, 

863
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,280
look, this is it, much like 
yours. 

864
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,600
So yeah, that people will 
believe it. 

865
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,920
This guy, he made this book and 
literally unbelieved himself 

866
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,080
because he quit believing over 
it. 

867
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,320
So if. 
That's, I don't know, at least 

868
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,120
he did something for himself in 
the end. 

869
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,640
That's the effect of Mormonism, 
isn't it? 

870
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,560
That you go one of two paths. 
You either become steadfast on 

871
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,840
finding God and you find Jesus. 
Amen. 

872
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,720
That has to happen. 
Or you go completely. 

873
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,000
You know, all religions is a 
sham. 

874
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
And I'm like once burned, twice 
shy. 

875
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,240
Most of them do that, and that's
why I speak out so much. 

876
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,520
People constantly are saying to 
me, why don't you just leave it 

877
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,200
alone? 
You left Mormonism, now leave it

878
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,160
alone. 
And I'm like, because are you 

879
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,320
the type of person if you're on 
the lifeboat and there's room 

880
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,200
that doesn't go back for more 
people? 

881
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,040
I'm not. 
I'm going to go back like, what 

882
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,400
there you can help people, but 
so many people wouldn't. 

883
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,400
So half of those boats from the 
Titanic were empty, so. 

884
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Not to to search the man who 
wrote this because he's done a 

885
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,160
fantastic job of combining it 
all, but I have a gut feeling 

886
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,720
that this type of work was put 
out long ago. 

887
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,360
Knowing that the plan moving 
forward after 70 odd years was 

888
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,640
that these types of ideas would 
be implanted and people would 

889
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,120
have a thirst for wanting to 
know the truth and the real 

890
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480
origins of certain things. 
And it would make people more 

891
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,960
pliable to become Gnostic 
Christians or Gnostics in 

892
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,080
general. 
Like the idea of like the real 

893
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,840
psyop is that the majority of 
conspiracy theories have been 

894
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,200
faked the whole time and they've
been planted into the 

895
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,760
subconscious of of humanity. 
Say that we talk about it and 

896
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,640
form our little communities so 
that we're more malleable later 

897
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680
on. 
Absolutely. 

898
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Well, I mean, they've been doing
this a long time. 

899
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,120
And also another one of his fun 
little name drops is Romney. 

900
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,280
That's right. 
B Romney, his dad, Marion G 

901
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Romney and Ezra Taft Benson. 
So, you know, I mean, do I trust

902
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,160
all this stuff? 
Probably not. 

903
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,960
He's an attorney. 
Those people are bought in like,

904
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,760
let's do well. 
So, yeah, you know, and you know

905
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,560
why he mentions Romney's is 
because they have a settlement 

906
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,000
in Chihuahua, Mexico, that I'm 
going to be doing an episode on 

907
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,440
very soon. 
Those are some really crazy 

908
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Mormons, like killing each other
Mormons. 

909
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,440
So yeah, so there's that. 
Does does he allude to anywhere 

910
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,120
in that book? 
Because I would assume that this

911
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,720
author would have been taking 
his time to write that book. 

912
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Is there a feeling as you're 
reading it that he's starting to

913
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,200
lose his faith as he's? 
Wrong. 

914
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,720
He never. 
Yeah, he never did the book. 

915
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,960
It actually had to be compiled 
later, at a later time. 

916
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,360
So interesting. 
You say that? 

917
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Yeah, 5 of this guy. 
'S books was. 

918
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:38,280
Compiled after he died. 
Oh wow, maybe they knew each 

919
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,640
other well. 
Isn't it just interesting that 

920
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,520
someone has to compile the works
for the person because one, they

921
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,120
never put it out themselves, and
two, it's easier to make a 

922
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,760
pretty good influence on certain
communities later on if these 

923
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,560
books were compiled. 
And if it's compiled for someone

924
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,440
else, did they have the 
intention of having all that 

925
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,560
information? 
Were there things they decided 

926
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,720
were wrong and not supposed to 
be in there anymore? 

927
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,640
If you're just going through 
someone's notes from their 

928
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,840
office, you're just putting out 
things as you find them right or

929
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,600
you intend. 
Well, and what if they're just 

930
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,760
like if he had a faith crisis in
the middle, which clearly he 

931
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,000
did, would you that's kind of 
against what he's going through.

932
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,760
Like honestly, it you wouldn't 
want to throw them away because 

933
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,640
you're like, I spent all this 
time and research and energy and

934
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,120
blah, blah, blah. 
But then also it's not really 

935
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,920
ethical to put something out. 
I don't feel after somebody's 

936
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,120
death where they can't say 
that's OK because the last page 

937
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,400
might be and all of this is 
bullshit and I don't like it 

938
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,440
anymore. 
The end. 

939
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880
They don't have the ability to 
defend their position either. 

940
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,360
You're not around for your 
works. 

941
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,320
You can't clarify things, you 
can't reassert maybe 

942
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,000
preconceived notions that you 
had or change things as you 

943
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,400
would have. 
You're putting things out as you

944
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,440
wrote them at the time. 
It's like a snapshot in time of 

945
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,920
your beliefs at that time and 
doesn't take into account what 

946
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,000
you thought before your death. 
And that's the sad thing. 

947
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,520
I think when we see a lot of 
authors that are still alive, we

948
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,280
do find they go back and they 
read, rework their works. 

949
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,240
They have different editions 
that come out there, revise 

950
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,680
things, and you can track that 
with these types of people. 

951
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,360
When you've got works that are 
put out on their behalf, you 

952
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,240
don't have that opportunity. 
Yes, and I mean honestly, if he 

953
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,840
wanted to do it, he would have 
done it. 

954
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120
And having a faith crisis in the
middle, he clearly didn't feel 

955
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,640
the same. 
So yeah, for his, I feel like 

956
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
it's unethical in general, so. 
Yeah. 

957
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,160
It is what it is, it's out 
there, but it did get on the no 

958
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,040
no list so well. 
Because for the Mormon church. 

959
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,120
Yeah, they, they don't want this
going around anymore because 

960
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,360
then people are going to be 
like, oh, well, what about this?

961
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,120
And then it, and then it's like,
OK, all these people are Middle 

962
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,040
Eastern. 
Oops, no they're not. 

963
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,360
It's funny that you mentioned 
that. 

964
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,480
You mentioned the haplo roof 
thing before. 

965
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,360
I saw a paper that came out and 
it was reasserting that the 

966
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,280
haplogroup data from the Human 
Genome Project was inaccurate 

967
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,000
and there was no bearing, say, 
straight transition of of Inuit 

968
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000
or Eskimos type peoples from the
steppes or Asia into North 

969
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,520
America. 
They're reasserting that the DNA

970
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,160
found within North American 
Indians were from the Levant 

971
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,600
region. 
I thought, oh, this is weird. 

972
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,120
It took three clicks to find it 
lent back to the Mormon. 

973
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,360
Church, of course, Of course. 
Well, probably from this book. 

974
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,160
What do we do? 
What do we do? 

975
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Yeah, who knows? 
But yeah, it gets it gets 

976
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,080
interesting. 
What's your your biggest take 

977
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,200
away from it? 
Was it that it drove this guy to

978
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,160
lose his faith? 
Or was it that there's the truth

979
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,120
in amongst the lies? 
What's what's your gut feeling 

980
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,840
of reading? 
It, I will say this, look, it 

981
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,920
was a, it was a pretty 
interesting read. 

982
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,320
He's got pictures. 
He's got all these ancient 

983
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,360
sites, like I like history. 
So this was good, you know, and 

984
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,400
he's got a lot of connections 
and different things. 

985
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,280
He's got the story of 
Quetzalcoatl, which, you know, I

986
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,720
was looking which paragraph I, I
could read. 

987
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:21,840
I didn't think about doing that.
But you know, and he goes over a

988
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,920
lot of things like sacred 
mountain reasons and altars. 

989
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,080
And so in this, you know, he 
does lay out a lot of 

990
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,400
interesting things just because 
they don't fit what he 

991
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,560
originally had as a hypothesis. 
Like I think if he would have 

992
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,440
kept it as a question and been 
like, maybe this right, instead 

993
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,200
of this is blah, this would have
been better like a thesis paper.

994
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,400
But nevertheless, here we are 
and it's a published book and 

995
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,560
now they can't get rid of it. 
But like I said, it wasn't even 

996
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,400
supposed to be put out in the 
first place. 

997
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,720
So like I always question like, 
was this the narrative? 

998
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Is this like a plan? 
Was this the plan to lead them 

999
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600
here? 
I I just don't ever know with 

1000
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,240
the church because they've done 
so much shady stuff. 

1001
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,560
But As for the actual history in
it, it is really interesting, 

1002
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,880
you know, And yes, the guy had a
faith crisis, but during this 

1003
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,280
actual book, it doesn't seem 
that way, right? 

1004
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,440
Because he's all in and you just
only know that if you look it 

1005
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,920
up. 
I don't know that you would know

1006
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,720
that if you didn't know that. 
But I knew already, so, which is

1007
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:34,160
sad, because what happens then 
can lead people astray still, 

1008
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,760
right? 
What person is going to know 

1009
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,240
that isn't Mormon? 
I knew about Southerton because 

1010
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,320
I knew about the DNA thing, 
because I knew he got 

1011
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,040
excommunicated for it. 
But if you didn't know that it 

1012
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,680
has nothing to do with this 
book. 

1013
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Would you go and look it up? 
Like, would you or would you 

1014
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,520
believe this narrative just on 
words alone? 

1015
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,440
Yeah, it's a there's a 
difference between researchers 

1016
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,880
and apathy of readers. 
And, you know, we're all, we're 

1017
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,280
all time poor. 
We get that. 

1018
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,960
But when you've got big claims 
require big evidence and you 

1019
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
can't just say here's my 
reference without actually 

1020
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,360
looking at the reference, 
especially if it's something as 

1021
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,520
groundbreaking as ancient 
America was, a place where the 

1022
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,120
truth and relax were, or it was 
Britain where Atlantis was. 

1023
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,160
These are big massive claims 
that require big evidence which 

1024
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,720
they try to give their evidence.
But like you said, it's is it 

1025
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:32,280
the truth or is it a lie? 
Well, and the fact that, you 

1026
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,560
know, there's names dropped. 
He also was the founder of the 

1027
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,320
New World Archaeological 
Foundation, which benefited from

1028
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,760
the church's money multiple 
times. 15,000 in 1953, that was 

1029
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:51,160
a lot back then. 
And 200,000 between 1955 to 59. 

1030
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,400
That's a lot of money. 
This is all church money, you 

1031
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,520
know, So it just, it's just 
like, at what point is it so 

1032
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,080
yucky that it doesn't matter 
anymore, right? 

1033
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,320
Like, I don't know, I don't 
know, is this your narrative 

1034
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,760
because you wanted to open that 
society? 

1035
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,480
Is this your narrative because 
you want to go to Mexico a 

1036
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,160
bunch? 
I don't know, like I don't know 

1037
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,760
what you're doing with that 
right? 

1038
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,200
But it sure is a hard take when 
I mean they're like, OK, so 

1039
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,880
basically they're saying, you 
know, because, you know, Jesus 

1040
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,160
came to the Americas. 
We have this proof because this 

1041
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,760
the timeline adds up and he was 
a fair God and Quetzicodel just 

1042
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,400
happens. 
This this whole thing just 

1043
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,280
happens to be when that was and 
the timelines align. 

1044
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,200
Like that's good enough or like 
I'm not saying Quetzicottle 

1045
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,120
isn't on things. 
I'm not saying that that's not 

1046
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:47,200
real, but like that's a stretch.
I just, yeah, I don't know, I 

1047
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,600
don't think that again, like I 
said, there were other things 

1048
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,200
like this. 
He he does talk about codices 

1049
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,240
and stone carvings and all of 
the, you know, oh, it had their 

1050
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:01,240
feet inside, you know, hands 
pierced on the crucified figure.

1051
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:05,080
So it had to have been this 
like, why did it had to have 

1052
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,680
been that? 
Like maybe one guy made it 

1053
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,360
there. 
Like we don't, we just don't 

1054
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,800
know, right? 
Like it could be anything. 

1055
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640
I'm not saying maybe a guy had a
dream about it. 

1056
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,680
Maybe we've seen prophecies in 
the Bible, like maybe that, 

1057
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,960
like, I don't know what 
happened, but certainly it seems

1058
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,480
like a really weird stretch to 
start linking this to 3rd Nephi 

1059
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,600
eight through 10 when they're 
talking about the earthquakes 

1060
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
and the days of darkness and 
volcano eruptions. 

1061
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,000
And then they're like, oh, oh, 
oh, wait, we had that too. 

1062
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,360
Then this, this happened too, 
you know? 

1063
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,760
And so I'm like, well, I mean, 
yeah, OK, great. 

1064
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,520
But also, these things happen 
all the time. 

1065
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,760
Like you could go pick a day out
of the calendar and look and 

1066
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,840
see, was there an earthquake 
that day? 

1067
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,880
Was it a big deal? 
Was it this like it's? 

1068
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,280
Cherry picking information to 
see the narrative a lot of the 

1069
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,160
time. 
Like I could look at I could 

1070
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,240
look at the time of the 
Justinian plague in which a 

1071
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,480
super volcano went off at that 
time in the world. 

1072
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,720
It sent so much particulars up 
into the sky for like a year or 

1073
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,880
more straight. 
It was like a perpetual, like a 

1074
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,600
sun was barely around. 
Lots of plants died. 

1075
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,360
They didn't had lots of losses 
of food. 

1076
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Clearly pestilence grew up from 
that disease, which was the 

1077
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Justinian plague apparently. 
I can say that that was aspects 

1078
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,360
of of the Bible because it links
to certain events. 

1079
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,920
But that would be cherry picking
because I don't know, it's a bit

1080
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,360
of a what if ISM. 
Right. 

1081
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,400
And they did specifically link, 
you know, real things that 

1082
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,400
really happened. 
I'm going to try and say these 

1083
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:46,240
words, the Izapa and Camino 
eruptions, OK, of these 

1084
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:51,320
volcanoes, like they talk about 
the sunken cities and, and oh, 

1085
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960
it's got to be it because it's 
in, it's in the Book of Mormon. 

1086
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,880
And this is the one. 
But like they don't know that. 

1087
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Like there's, there's not a sign
that says like this is the one. 

1088
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,400
Like they are giving tons of 
information that is absolutely 

1089
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,480
real, but it's just such a 
stretch. 

1090
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,320
I, I, I I don't know. 
The stretching sides of things. 

1091
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,720
I'm reading my book and then 
listening to yours. 

1092
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,160
It reminds me of something 
that's going around quite 

1093
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,520
popular at the moment, and 
that's little season slash 

1094
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,440
tartaria. 
Like the amount of videos that 

1095
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,200
I've seen where people show 
images of what I can would 

1096
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,560
consider pareidolia, which is 
the human ability to see faces 

1097
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,400
of familiar objects in nature. 
So this is a frozen Nephilim 

1098
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:35,760
look. 
Yeah. 

1099
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,440
OK, I'll go there. 
It could be. 

1100
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,000
It also just looks like a rock. 
And then there's oh, this, this 

1101
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,240
is, this is a sign of melting. 
No, that's erosion over possibly

1102
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,880
10s of thousands of years. 
Or this is a doorway cutting to 

1103
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,320
the side of a mountain. 
I can see the crack lines where 

1104
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,880
there's been an earthquake and 
it's fallen. 

1105
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,720
There's a lot of stretching to 
push a narrative at the moment. 

1106
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,920
And it really just distracts us 
from the work that we should be 

1107
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,200
doing if we're leaving it 
literally in the past, trying to

1108
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,480
prove Old Testament bloodlines 
and prove seed war prove chosen 

1109
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,440
people. 
It takes away from the work the 

1110
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,640
crisis is crisis got us to do in
the in the now. 

1111
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,200
And the problem of OK my people,
the chosen people instantly puts

1112
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,960
you into an authoritarian 
position where you're better 

1113
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,880
than everyone else. 
The definition of racism on the 

1114
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,680
other side, the serpent seed, 
well, these people are serpent 

1115
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,400
seed literally belittles people 
till they're not human. 

1116
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,480
What do you think is going to 
come out of those two 

1117
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,960
situations, especially if you 
had a weaponized control of 

1118
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,520
Christianity, where there's 
Christian nationalism and the 

1119
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,040
majority of people went chose, 
we're chosen. 

1120
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,480
These people are Satan's serpent
seed. 

1121
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,600
We're now justified in wiping 
them off the face of the planet.

1122
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,440
No, not very new covenant at 
all. 

1123
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,280
No, no. 
And when we look at this stuff, 

1124
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,400
you know, like this, this is 
part of of what they're talking 

1125
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,200
about. 
OK. 

1126
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,880
When Cortez landed on the East 
Coast of Mexico in 1519, the 

1127
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,800
inhabitants of the land thought 
he was their benevolent personal

1128
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,320
God, Quetzicodal, who had 
appeared to their ancestors 

1129
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,600
centuries before Columbus and 
had promised to return. 

1130
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Like Cortez Quetzicodal had been
bearded and white skinned and he

1131
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,920
was associated with the cross. 
OK, so that that's fine. 

1132
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,960
You want to talk about that? 
But also it could be 100 other 

1133
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,640
things like you're guessing and 
we don't even have a picture of 

1134
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,320
any of these people, right? 
And I'm like, Cortez doesn't 

1135
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,520
sound like he would have had a 
white beard, but whatever. 

1136
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,560
If you want to say that, that's 
fine. 

1137
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,440
You know? 
And at the end of the day, I 

1138
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,520
think it's important with 
bloodlines to study them for the

1139
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,920
fact to know what the elites are
doing so we can understand what 

1140
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,520
they're doing. 
But definitely we should never 

1141
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,480
be buying into this crap. 
Not at all, because we're then 

1142
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,360
we're kind of falling for their 
belief systems as opposed to our

1143
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,720
own. 
The amount of people that go 

1144
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,200
down the rabbit hole of 
occultism to better understand 

1145
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,840
the enemy that get lost down 
there and can't find the way. 

1146
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,560
I think it's really big within 
the conspiratorial slash 

1147
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,280
podcasting community. 
It's a huge thing at the moment.

1148
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,520
And yeah, I think you need to 
take your Lantern with you to 

1149
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,360
get out because you can get 
stuck in it. 

1150
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,920
Very easy and well and as I went
down the rabbit hole and I don't

1151
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,600
know how you feel like being red
headed like with the whole 

1152
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,360
Nephilim agenda thing. 
And then, you know, I felt 

1153
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,960
really weird when I started 
finding out MyHeritage and stuff

1154
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,120
like I was like, Oh my gosh, I 
never even cared about this. 

1155
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,080
I think a few times I even 
texted you like Oh my gosh, this

1156
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,480
is bad. 
You know, especially. 

1157
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,120
If there's RH negative involved,
oh you're a natural blood 

1158
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,320
person, you're bad. 
Oh my gosh, yeah. 

1159
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,280
And it's, it's just something 
that, you know, OK, we're 

1160
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,480
dealing with it. 
You're kind of dealing with it 

1161
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,960
in the moment of like, uh oh, 
like this is kind of scary. 

1162
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,360
And then also like, I don't, I 
don't want to be associated with

1163
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,240
that. 
So at the same time, you're 

1164
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,800
trying to expose things for the 
sake of what they believe. 

1165
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,800
They as in the elites, the 1%, 
the people that believe in the 

1166
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,920
divine right to rule and all 
this crap. 

1167
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,800
But like you said, at the same 
time not being like, well, I'm a

1168
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,640
redhead, so now I'm screwed. 
You know, it does, it feels that

1169
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,880
way. 
You know, I felt that way 

1170
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,960
because I knew my blood, my 
bloodline, like I was screwed 

1171
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
too. 
So I was like, Oh my gosh, like 

1172
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,280
this is scary. 
But that's not true. 

1173
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,720
Like you said, like we have, we 
have to stop. 

1174
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,840
And that is really that is very 
easily weaponized. 

1175
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,360
Some of the rhetoric I've heard 
online from the black Israelite 

1176
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,120
movement about white people 
being the devil and all white 

1177
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,800
people at the serpent scene and 
white people need to be wiped 

1178
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,440
out. 
It's just racism from another 

1179
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,280
perspective. 
And, and this is what it does. 

1180
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,920
When you go down the route of 
I'm better than you because of A

1181
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,960
or you're lesser than me because
of B, you get in some some 

1182
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520
really dark corners of human 
existence. 

1183
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,320
Right. 
Well, anytime people are saying 

1184
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,720
that they're better, I mean, 
this whole divine right to rule 

1185
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080
business is serious to them, 
right? 

1186
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,760
Like, I mean, look at what they 
did in Germany. 

1187
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,960
Like, let's just be real here, 
Blavatsky. 

1188
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,960
I wrote a whole thing about it. 
I just did an episode on Steiner

1189
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,960
whole thing about it. 
Like when you look at this 

1190
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,880
stuff, it doesn't die. 
Like it's just, it's just 

1191
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,880
forever. 
And we've got. 

1192
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,600
We've got a real life account of
what the divine right to rule 

1193
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,040
has done geographically in the 
world. 

1194
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,000
Look at India. 
India was ceded civilization 

1195
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,920
wise by the Aryan tribes that 
came from the north. 

1196
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,160
They brought the wheel, they 
brought horses, they brought 

1197
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,840
agriculture with them. 
They even gave them Sanskrit, 

1198
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,880
which today is everyone believes
is Indian. 

1199
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,680
It came from Northern Europe. 
They arrived, they set up a 

1200
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,080
caste system. 
The air caste system was 

1201
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,720
inherently based on you've got 
to be an Aryan. 

1202
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,120
Well, there weren't too many 
Aryan women, so they had to 

1203
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,480
start breeding with the native 
women. 

1204
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,720
So it created a caste system. 
India only recently got rid of 

1205
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,920
that. 
Like you've got a racial based 

1206
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,880
system within their own people. 
This. 

1207
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,520
But they're still untouchables. 
They're still untouchables 

1208
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,080
there. 
It's horrible. 

1209
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,520
Like literally how do you like? 
Like I remember when I was 

1210
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,880
young, maybe like 16 or 15, 
seeing a story about this little

1211
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,720
kid that everybody said he was 
an untouchable because I don't 

1212
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,920
even know why he had a witch eye
or some shit. 

1213
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,760
I don't know what it was. 
He was this little, tiny, 

1214
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,320
sweetest little kid and they 
just left him out there to 

1215
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,440
freaking die. 
And some lady adopted him and 

1216
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,960
helped him and everything. 
And I'm like, how do you do that

1217
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,080
with humanity? 
Like at what point are we 

1218
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,120
treating this less than a stray 
dog? 

1219
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,040
Like awful, awful. 
Like I just remember reading 

1220
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,560
that and thinking, that can't be
real. 

1221
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,760
Like what mother does that? 
What what person is OK with 

1222
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,480
walking past a baby in the 
street? 

1223
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Like, I couldn't do it. 
I'd probably be the lady that 

1224
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,040
adopted him. 
But you know, I just can't, I 

1225
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,040
just can't imagine that that. 
And that's not that long ago and

1226
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,320
it's still happening. 
So. 

1227
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,720
And how do you feel if you're 
those people, even if you're not

1228
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,160
an untouchable, Like, how do you
feel if you live there knowing, 

1229
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Ah, you know, Steiner said that.
Yeah, I, I, I can't go anywhere 

1230
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,320
because of my station in life. 
And Steiner said black people 

1231
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,920
were animals. 
Like, what is going on? 

1232
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,760
You know, like, oh sorry, you 
got to reincarnate again to get 

1233
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,320
wider. 
Steiner, the gentleman who 

1234
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,720
influenced Steiner schools 
across the world that are still 

1235
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,640
being used for some reason. 
The same guy that said little 

1236
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,880
octopus aliens would be injected
into humanity. 

1237
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Yeah. 
Gertcheff, is that what you were

1238
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,720
talking about? 
I think so, yeah, Yeah. 

1239
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,120
And and it's just scary. 
Like some of the stuff they're 

1240
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,680
right about, like some like 
that's the hard part because 

1241
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,840
Steiner also said go put shandy 
cat people on the beach to 

1242
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,360
enlighten yourself and be a 
better person. 

1243
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Like, cool, I can get down with 
that. 

1244
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,840
He also reversed the Lord's 
Prayer because people come at us

1245
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,200
and say, well, he was a 
Christian, you know? 

1246
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,480
And I'm like, well, I mean, OK, 
I don't think so. 

1247
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,040
Yeah. 
So, you know, you're like in one

1248
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,520
of these things like Scientology
or Mormonism or, or that, you 

1249
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,200
know, whatever, you're an 
anthroposophist theosophist and,

1250
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,960
and you're just in this and 
you're, you're living like this 

1251
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,160
for so long because then they 
keep you busy forever and you're

1252
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,800
the chosen 1 and you never get 
out. 

1253
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Like when do you stop enough to 
be like, whoa, maybe this is not

1254
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,400
good, but they don't a lot of 
times. 

1255
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,560
And like you said, when they do,
it goes bad. 

1256
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,160
So but and humans like being 
told they're special. 

1257
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,480
There's a a. 
Level of ego stroking, everyone 

1258
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,240
enjoys a little bit. 
We like compliments. 

1259
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,320
When you get ego stroking on the
level of that, you're the chosen

1260
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,920
people and you're God's chosen 
and everyone else's pawns come 

1261
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,680
in comparison. 
If you're born in that and you 

1262
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,960
keep swallowing that every day, 
it's very hard to break away 

1263
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,840
from it because why would you? 
You don't look a gift horse in 

1264
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,280
the mouth. 
And that's essentially what a 

1265
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,560
lot of these cults do. 
Yeah. 

1266
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,040
Why would you? 
Why would you leave if you're 

1267
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,640
the perfect? 
One like why would you? 

1268
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,560
Choose to do anything different 
if you're the chosen, you know, 

1269
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,160
I mean, the Mormons literally 
say they're the only true church

1270
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,800
in the world, that, you know, 
they're the only one that's true

1271
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,120
and exists, that we have all the
knowledge we have the true keys 

1272
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,320
to Masonry, Masons, you hear 
that one? 

1273
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:26,400
Like, I mean, they're not quiet 
really about it, you know, So I 

1274
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,960
don't know. 
Yeah, it's really elect the 

1275
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,560
elect, right. 
So. 

1276
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,200
So. 
After that book. 

1277
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,800
You've seen some of the the. 
Truths hidden amongst. 

1278
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,440
The lies, and you've unpacked it
a bit. 

1279
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,280
What's your perspective on it 
though, as where the truths are 

1280
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:53,040
when it's talking about America 
as being this first place? 

1281
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,280
What evidence is there that you 
think that there is some truth 

1282
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,600
to it? 
Like when you're you're an 

1283
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,880
American yourself, you've got 
look, you see your own backyard.

1284
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Like what evidence is there for 
ancient peoples and and the 

1285
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,640
things that they're trying to 
small threats from this this. 

1286
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:15,080
Particular book is more focused 
on quetzicodal being Jesus. 

1287
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,440
I mean like period. 
And and so you don't believe 

1288
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,960
Jesus was the feathered snake 
God? 

1289
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,280
I don't, I do not, but. 
I do know that, you know, 

1290
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,240
Jackson County, Missouri, is 
where Joseph Smith said is the 

1291
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,440
real Garden of Eden. 
I don't know if I've ever told 

1292
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,080
you that. 
So yeah, that's where we're 

1293
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,640
supposed to go. 
When the end of the world 

1294
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,160
happens. 
We have to go to Jackson County,

1295
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,800
Missouri. 
And a lot of people know this. 

1296
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,760
And then, you know, you do look 
at these weird things like all 

1297
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,520
these pyramids and killing. 
Missouri just doesn't have a 

1298
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,240
God. 
I know it's so. 

1299
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,640
Bad. 
I'm like, this is weird. 

1300
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,440
This is super weird and and 
they've they've still say that 

1301
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,320
that happens to all the 
rednecks. 

1302
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,680
Do they get like kicked out or 
smited before? 

1303
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,080
You arrive or I don't know, but 
they did used to shoot. 

1304
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,280
Mormons. 
A lot so. 

1305
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,440
I think they better watch 
themselves. 

1306
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,280
And then then we get the Grand 
Canyon stuff, you know? 

1307
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,280
And I do think there's a lot 
they're hiding. 

1308
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,319
Like, let's be real. 
I mean, they name like the 

1309
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:20,560
Temple of Isis right there. 
They're really not hiding it. 

1310
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,640
But like, I don't think that's 
that's where we're talking about

1311
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,920
here. 
They're trying to say that's 

1312
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,880
also that's not Mormons. 
That's just a theory, right? 

1313
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,439
That that this is where it was. 
And I'm like, look, you guys, I 

1314
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,040
just don't buy it. 
Like you guys just want them to 

1315
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:41,080
be not Jewish so bad. 
And let's get real. 

1316
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,399
OK. 
Like I don't believe. 

1317
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:47,359
In Aryan Jesus, and I don't 
believe in quetzicotal feathered

1318
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:49,479
Jesus. 
I think he might be concerned 

1319
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,600
about that. 
Like, I don't know if he'd want 

1320
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,399
feathers, but whatever, you 
know, it just seems like such a 

1321
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:59,000
stretch all the way around. 
I don't know, It's silly to me. 

1322
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,880
It seems like it seems like such
a danger that people. 

1323
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,520
Can get these these types of 
books and and they can have 

1324
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,520
their confirmation bias from it.
Like if you're interested in 

1325
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:18,160
ancient history and meteoric 
impacts and all that. 

1326
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,439
Jazz the great deception like. 
One of these books is literally 

1327
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,200
titled that it's it's a good 
little bit of confirmation bias 

1328
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,680
and it's going to tickle your 
boxes. 

1329
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,279
It's going to tickle your 
intrigue. 

1330
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:30,680
It's going to confirm some 
things that you want to be true 

1331
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:34,880
without you actually going 
through it point point in fact, 

1332
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,640
right. 
He mentions that the Hebrew. 

1333
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:43,800
Tribes had firearms. 
They had gunpowder. 

1334
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,479
They had. 
Ball bearings, and that's why 

1335
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,279
they were so powerful at the 
time, wiping out the Philistines

1336
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:54,160
and other other tribes because 
they had muskets nowhere in 

1337
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,440
historical record. 
Outside of China have. 

1338
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:59,880
I seen a culture that had black 
powder before the Chinese and 

1339
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,800
then via association Europeans 
who developed guns. 

1340
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,880
Yes, he's made this assumption 
here and all the references he's

1341
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,080
tried to make. 
I can't make that connection 

1342
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,040
work. 
Can't find anything. 

1343
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,560
Can't find anything not. 
Even a stone etching, huh? 

1344
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,760
No. 
Nothing. 

1345
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Nothing at all. 
Not a gun that says. 

1346
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,120
This was Jesus Glock in gold 
sitting in a temple somewhere. 

1347
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,000
I mean, yeah, maybe he'd have a 
musket. 

1348
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,160
I don't know. 
Oh boy. 

1349
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,800
Yikes. 
Oh lordy. 

1350
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,120
So I think. 
Like the take away from what 

1351
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,400
you're, you've spoken about, 
what I've spoken about, there's 

1352
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,120
this through line that goes 
through all of it. 

1353
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,960
Take away the mysteries. 
The truth from all of this that 

1354
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,640
we're seeing is there's been 
some kind of cataclysmic event. 

1355
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:52,240
There's been people living on 
closed lines or in inland who 

1356
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,880
have been washed away via 
floods. 

1357
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,800
There's been God like entities 
that are pale, probably blonde 

1358
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,080
haired, blue eyed, that made 
their way to the new world and 

1359
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,840
establish themselves as the 
divine right to rule. 

1360
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,320
We've had it in India, we had it
in South America, we had it in 

1361
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,640
Australia, Africa even. 
There's all these accounts now. 

1362
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,920
If you're using Occam's razor, 
what's the most common sense 

1363
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,120
approach to that? 
There's also seafaring people 

1364
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,880
who have the ability to go 
around the world, right? 

1365
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,320
You track that back. 
Who are the seafaring peoples of

1366
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,600
the time? 
Well, they wouldn't be mostly 

1367
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,840
the Mediterranean, 
Mediterranean's of enclosed kind

1368
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,280
of area. 
They don't really know how to 

1369
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,480
navigate open waters. 
Mediterranean is pretty close, 

1370
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:33,080
it's protected from weather for 
the most part. 

1371
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,040
What people would have been 
travelling the world would have 

1372
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,800
been the Scandinavians or would 
have been the British people who

1373
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,960
actively had to engage in large 
open seas. 

1374
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,160
And if they had the ability to 
create boats, they probably had 

1375
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,760
the ability to develop metal 
urgy and farming techniques. 

1376
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,320
To some person straight out of a
cave would look like magic, 

1377
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,440
right? 
Of course, it's all alien cargo 

1378
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:58,080
coats. 
Right, like all. 

1379
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,800
And that's what JJ always says 
he's like. 

1380
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,400
It's like, that's what it always
goes back to. 

1381
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,880
I'm like, yeah, you're not 
wrong. 

1382
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,600
You know, I mean, I get it. 
Like, it would seem very magical

1383
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,320
if you saw that. 
What if he had like a feathered 

1384
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,360
coat or something sequence? 
You got a sequin ball gown on 

1385
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,600
for Aleno. 
Yeah, I mean, it would be crazy.

1386
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,160
You know and. 
What if it was fur instead? 

1387
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,880
I mean, I don't know. 
We could conjecture all day, you

1388
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,320
know, and then again, like if we
tried to align this from our 

1389
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,240
understanding. 
Of scriptures is that there was 

1390
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,240
pre Adamite peoples that had 
spread across the earth their 

1391
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,160
advance, they were doing things 
that humans shouldn't be doing 

1392
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:39,200
and they were punished for it 
accordingly. 

1393
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,640
And no. 
And his family or those that 

1394
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:45,320
survived sounds a lot like the 
survivors of a said flood which 

1395
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,600
we know occurred. 
There was a Raphaim after the 

1396
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,280
Nephilim. 
They maybe just picked up their 

1397
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,440
boats, picked up what they 
could, got out just in time, or 

1398
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:57,040
survived the cataclysm, avoided 
God's wrath, and they tried to 

1399
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,120
set up camp somewhere new. 
That's what it sounds like to 

1400
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,920
me, at bare minimum. 
You guys buy the historical? 

1401
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,240
Candles, seafaring peoples who 
made their way around the world.

1402
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,160
Oh, I did forget to mention one 
thing all of. 

1403
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,360
This and don't forget the 
Romneys are in Mexico. 

1404
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,680
Big players there probably make 
a lot of money. 

1405
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,840
This became like a Mecca thing, 
and I think it still is. 

1406
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:23,480
Yeah, to some of the pyramids 
over in Mesoamerica. 

1407
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,800
Yep. 
So now when they go there. 

1408
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,640
There's. 
Still to this day, tours that 

1409
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,520
are like this is for the Mormons
because you know, you're serpent

1410
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,560
God guy that that's not supposed
to happen. 

1411
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,640
But OK. 
Like, I thought that was 

1412
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,760
debunked by the guy from Yale, 
by the way, the guy I had to, 

1413
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,400
the guy that debunked it, they 
came out specifically against 

1414
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,080
it. 
And he, yeah, he's from Yale. 

1415
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,440
So I thought that was pretty 
funny. 

1416
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,280
That book is called, Let's see, 
Breaking the Maya Code by 

1417
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:02,520
Michael Deco, Mr. Yale himself. 
So it's yeah. 

1418
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,840
But to this day, those still go.
So don't you find it interesting

1419
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,840
that all of these influential 
little groups. 

1420
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,280
Freemasons, Mormons, Shriners, 
all these types of occultic 

1421
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,360
Christian air quotes groups, 
they're the most influential 

1422
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,480
people when it comes to First 
Nations accounts. 

1423
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:23,720
Like they go in to meet these 
tribes before anyone else and 

1424
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,320
they put it under the guise of 
we're spreading the word or 

1425
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,760
we're trying to help people. 
I think honestly they are going 

1426
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,000
for that, that bloodline stuff 
because they believe so, 

1427
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,280
somebody once told me. 
In one of my podcasts and he's 

1428
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,680
he's really smart researcher, 
LDS abuse. 

1429
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:45,320
And he said this is how they do 
it for, you know, the Marriotts 

1430
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,400
or the Romneys or these 
important people, right? 

1431
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,520
Like they'll go in and the 
church will do a small donation 

1432
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,280
when there's a huge problem like
an earthquake, right? 

1433
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,960
And that'll get them in the 
door. 

1434
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,760
And then once they get there, 
they're like, hey, but my 

1435
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,800
friend, this really rich 
Freemason guy, he has food 

1436
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,160
services that we can feed the 
people. 

1437
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,200
And this guy builds and you need
to rebuild your city, so you 

1438
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,000
need the builders and then blah,
blah, blah, blah. 

1439
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,280
And so eventually, yeah, it's 
all of them, right? 

1440
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,480
Like they're, they're all 
drifting off this money and 

1441
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,800
they're making a ton more than 
that little original donation, 

1442
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,600
you know? 
So yeah, it's always been the 

1443
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,280
way. 
Yeah. 

1444
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,520
And development, yeah. 
And. 

1445
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,480
The first contact situations 
though. 

1446
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,920
Like in North. 
America, from my understanding, 

1447
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,440
a lot of Mormons and Masons were
making contact with the 

1448
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:36,840
Americans as they went West and 
they were the first people that 

1449
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,200
they saw. 
It wasn't the American Union all

1450
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,280
the time or Union soldiers. 
It was settlers and people 

1451
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,800
preaching the good word that 
were finding their way across. 

1452
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,480
And you know, what information 
would they try and get a hold of

1453
01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:51,800
before everyone else could come 
in and just stamp it out? 

1454
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,160
Oh yeah, and they would, 
absolutely. 

1455
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:59,680
Marry into native tribes to make
them more white and delights up 

1456
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,280
to help them out. 
Drew. 

1457
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,320
They're helping them out. 
Yeah. 

1458
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,480
But really what they're doing is
they're stealing their 

1459
01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:07,560
knowledge. 
They're stealing their quote UN 

1460
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,760
quote magic, whatever that is, 
like their tribe secrets, right?

1461
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,000
And they're using it to their 
advantage before anybody else 

1462
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,080
can come around. 
This is constant. 

1463
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,080
And like the Mormons, there 
would be no America West without

1464
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,320
the Mormons. 
Like, I hate to tell people it's

1465
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,840
just the truth, truth. 
But also most of the time they 

1466
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,240
were running from being killed. 
But you know, whatever they they

1467
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,480
were here. 
And yeah, this is where they 

1468
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,200
shoot themselves in the foot 
because you're on one side. 

1469
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,720
You got the. 
The serpent say on the other 

1470
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,440
side, you got the chosen. 
They're trying to claim to be 

1471
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:40,120
both. 
Because if they're claiming to 

1472
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,160
be the chosen at the same time 
as intermarrying to the serpent,

1473
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:47,840
say, and gaining their blood 
magic air quotes, that's what it

1474
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,360
was. 
What's their position then? 

1475
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,080
Because you can't. 
Have both. 

1476
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,240
So if you want my honest in a 
binary system, it's got to be. 

1477
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,760
One or the other, it can't be 
both. 

1478
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:00,000
It's witchcraft like it honestly
look. 

1479
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:06,880
When the people came to America 
in general, yes, Masons 2. 

1480
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,960
Yes, freedom of religion. 
But what's the religion they're 

1481
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,240
trying to stamp out, Drew? 
What is that religion? 

1482
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,640
I'm not really curious. 
Right? 

1483
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,880
Like if you really dissect it 
and look backward, like, who's 

1484
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,560
the one they're kicking out 
anyways? 

1485
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,760
The heretics? 
The Gnostics, the witches. 

1486
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,720
Look, I don't care what you want
to practice. 

1487
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,080
That's your salvation, not mine.
But when we're talking about 

1488
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,080
this, and then you bring in the 
other side of it, and they're 

1489
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,400
native, and maybe they have 
their special things which like 

1490
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,240
it, it could correlate. 
But right, Maybe they're doing 

1491
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,280
certain kind of magic. 
We know that most Native tribes 

1492
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,920
do believe in magic in one form 
or another. 

1493
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,840
And you bring that blood 
together, which they told them 

1494
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:54,880
to do, then you gain both. 
So yeah, so I have to take 

1495
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:55,420
cocktail. 
Mm. 

1496
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:59,200
Hmm. 
Yep, Yep. 

1497
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,160
And and it sounds stupid and 
everybody's going to tell us 

1498
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,080
it's so stupid because it 
doesn't matter anymore because 

1499
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,880
the kings and Queens aren't 
real. 

1500
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,280
I literally had someone, every 
time I bring up bloodlines, it's

1501
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,400
like they have bots on purpose 
to like stamp this out, right? 

1502
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,320
Because then it, it exposes the 
elites for what they're really 

1503
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,400
doing. 
And why are they all related, 

1504
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,480
right? 
Why are all the presidents 

1505
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:22,040
related except a couple? 
Why are all these people, why am

1506
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,640
I related to almost everybody? 
Because if you're related to 1, 

1507
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,840
like welcome to the club. 
Like they're all related. 

1508
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,800
And so it's really weird. 
Yeah. 

1509
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,520
Every time I do one on that, 
it's literally like the last 

1510
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,960
time somebody was like, kings 
and Queens aren't even real. 

1511
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,000
I'm like, what? 
In what world? 

1512
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,360
This is the really thing that 
annoys me it. 

1513
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,800
Matters to a point we know for 
the spiritual warfare side of 

1514
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,600
things through the new covenant 
titles, Bloodlines. 

1515
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:57,440
That's all irrelevant now. 
For them it is very relevant and

1516
01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:00,480
it's a development for them and 
us in this physical world. 

1517
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:06,120
If they rule via title, via 
bloodline, via association, it 

1518
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,600
is very, very important for them
and it becomes very important to

1519
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,480
us because they can Lord that 
power over us in the situation 

1520
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:16,320
because we have a base system, 
they're gifted down even we have

1521
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,840
systems in. 
Place where they're going to be 

1522
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,320
in control if. 
You're one of those bloodlines, 

1523
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,880
one of those influential name 
groups. 

1524
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,280
You're going to go far in life 
if you marry into that. 

1525
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,760
Your children are going to go 
far in life. 

1526
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:31,520
For us, not so much. 
But we know the other side of 

1527
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,280
that coin. 
They've they've very much 

1528
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,880
narrowed down the materialistic 
to physical because that's all 

1529
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,640
they've got in this. 
We've got the other side. 

1530
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,320
We've got the trump card on that
and we have to look at it like 

1531
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,520
when we think of. 
Things like, OK, JJ Vance told 

1532
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,880
me all about the Society of the 
Cincinnati and I didn't know 

1533
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,280
anything about that until I 
talked to him, right? 

1534
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,080
And he's an ex Mormon too. 
And I'm like, that's weird 

1535
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,600
because why have I never heard 
this ever? 

1536
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,920
Like I know about Freemasons, I 
know about Martinism, I know 

1537
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,800
about all this crazy stuff like 
where did this come from, right?

1538
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,280
And then you start looking into 
it and what is it? 

1539
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,800
It's gifted down through the 
patriarchal line and if you 

1540
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,120
served in the service, but you 
can't just go like. 

1541
01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,480
Pledge for it like, oh, I'm a 
Freemason now because I went to 

1542
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:16,000
go do your little class or 
whatever. 

1543
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,440
No, you can't just be in the 
secret society with it. 

1544
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:23,040
Like I went to Yale so I can go 
and be blah blah blah. 

1545
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,360
No, some of this is literal. 
You have to prove your lineage 

1546
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,160
and why? 
If it doesn't freaking matter, 

1547
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,560
well, you better look again, you
guys, because I have found so 

1548
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,720
many societies going down this 
whole thing. 

1549
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Some of them I I've never heard 
of before, ever. 

1550
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,680
They're weird and, and the names
are weird and a lot of them have

1551
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,640
to do with pure, like just 
bloodline. 

1552
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,600
And so, yeah, but I think it's 
very important to them. 

1553
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,120
I think for us it's irrelevant 
because we know about what God's

1554
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:03,680
rules really are. 
But if you want to know what 

1555
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,880
kind of chess we're playing 
here, you have to play 3D chess.

1556
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,120
You cannot just go through life 
and be like, the world's 

1557
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,360
different now. 
Doesn't he matter, You know? 

1558
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,520
No, no, if it didn't matter, 
then they wouldn't track it 

1559
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,320
back. 
And they do every time. 

1560
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,080
So it's like. 
We're playing chess and they're 

1561
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,440
playing. 
Checkers on the same board. 

1562
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,120
Yes, slightly different game. 
So. 

1563
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,080
With this Jesus, this white. 
Jesus, guy, that you've. 

1564
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,920
Got here. 
Scottish Jesus. 

1565
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,400
Scottish Jesus must be Ewan. 
McGregor. 

1566
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,560
Because he looks like Jesus when
he played everyone Kenobi. 

1567
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,760
So I'm. 
Assuming that's what he looks 

1568
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,320
like. 
So weird. 

1569
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,200
So what do they say about? 
This. 

1570
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,920
So it's the geographical. 
Location of great. 

1571
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,280
Britain is essentially an. 
Overlay of what Jerusalem or 

1572
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,640
avant region is today Galilee is
Wales because of the close 

1573
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:59,320
proximity Scotland is Jerusalem,
Ireland is Egypt and when 

1574
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,240
they're expelled out of Ireland 
they across and if that's where 

1575
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,920
the red the. 
Dead Sea was or the red. 

1576
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,520
Sea and they cross there through
that little bridge there. 

1577
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:14,280
It's an issue in that he brings 
up all these points about Jesus 

1578
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,120
being white, which I don't know,
he very well could have been. 

1579
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,120
The demographics of the time 
were very different. 

1580
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,040
At most maybe they look like 
northern Italians today or early

1581
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,920
Greeks, whatever, doesn't really
matter. 

1582
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,080
But he goes down this path of 
the bloodlines again, mentioning

1583
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,920
that Odin in the a lot of the 
paganistic gods weren't gods, 

1584
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,120
but were people. 
Which to the Gray? 

1585
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,360
I kind of believe Maybe the 
ancient gods were people. 

1586
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,200
In Nephilim or. 
Something of that nature and 

1587
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,280
that Odin wasn't necessarily a 
person but was a title given to 

1588
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,720
someone like a Chieftain. 
And Odin of his time married 

1589
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,520
into the bloodline of Jesus 
children and out of that came 

1590
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,040
the Royals of Great Britain. 
So again, he's already putting 

1591
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,840
himself as a British person. 
Conformational bias writs are 

1592
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,720
the true key to the world 
because we had the greatest 

1593
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,520
empire until a bunch of farmers 
in the new world decide to stop 

1594
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:14,920
paying their taxes, right? 
But it's it's the same thing I 

1595
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,120
see. 
Everywhere I see it in the Black

1596
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,440
Israel Israel movement, I. 
See it in Mormonism. 

1597
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:23,400
I see it in every small kind of 
niche occulting group. 

1598
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,400
Everyone wants to be the chosen.
Everyone wants to be the best. 

1599
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,120
Everyone wants to have the 
special blood type, right? 

1600
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,840
And he writes it into his book 
Pretty. 

1601
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,240
Well. 
The locations are quite. 

1602
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,520
Compelling the. 
Parallels between Jerusalem. 

1603
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,520
And Great Britain, I'll give him
based on the descriptions from 

1604
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,320
the Bible and what ancient 
Britain looked like, I'll give 

1605
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,520
him that. 
I'll even give him the the olive

1606
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:55,240
branch of just because there are
Romanesque style baths and 

1607
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,120
Romanesque Greco Roman style 
things in Britain doesn't mean 

1608
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,920
the Romans arrived. 
It just means they were 

1609
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,640
influenced by them. 
Look, today you can walk down 

1610
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,560
the street in Australia and walk
down the street in America. 

1611
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,720
If you didn't know what country 
you're in and you just saw the 

1612
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,000
architecture, you know you're in
a similar place. 

1613
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,320
That's what could have happened 
in the ancient world, that 

1614
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,000
shared culture meant shared 
architecture and shared styles. 

1615
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,000
And I don't think that equates 
to global Tataria. 

1616
01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:24,200
I think it just means right 
change of culture and and arts 

1617
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,080
more. 
Than anything else. 

1618
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:31,120
OK, All right, so. 
They they do the Rex Deus. 

1619
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,800
Yes, you said Jesus's bloodline.
So children. 

1620
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:34,960
Yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

1621
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,160
And you do know that Joseph 
Smith was Irish. 

1622
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,160
And so I find this story 
interesting. 

1623
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,200
I wonder where they got it from 
originally. 

1624
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,240
And, and this is where they they
even connect into like the 

1625
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,840
historical. 
Counts of truth and here's the 

1626
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,280
truth. 
Scoter was an Egyptian Princess 

1627
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:57,120
who helped found Scotland in the
ancient times. 

1628
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:01,760
Scoter namesake for Scotland, 
the Irish, the Tuafa de Zanan 

1629
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,440
were the like pre deluge people,
the Aryans, the fae folk, the 

1630
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:10,720
fairy folk that sat at round 
tables, fairy circles like. 

1631
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,320
All this mythology has been 
mixed up into this massive 

1632
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,400
blender and you throw a few 
interconnecting wisps of 

1633
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,960
biblical scripture into it. 
It really mutters, muddies the 

1634
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,520
message of of Christ, and you 
can see why people find it 

1635
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,440
appealing. 
It's entertaining. 

1636
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:28,840
Don't get me wrong. 
If this if I was my. 

1637
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,040
My Jesus is. 
Mexico, yours is. 

1638
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,840
Red headed white probably. 
So I don't know. 

1639
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,320
We got to fight I guess. 
Just not in red headed Jesus. 

1640
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,080
Can't fight in Mexico because. 
The sun would burn him, but this

1641
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:47,400
is true. 
This is true, yeah, and I'm not 

1642
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,000
making fun. 
Of the gods of Mexico. 

1643
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,440
I'm making fun of the fact. 
That the Mormons strove so hard 

1644
01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:55,920
to be like this is the thing. 
Well, it's, it's, it's quite 

1645
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,800
funny. 
We've seen it. 

1646
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,320
That kind of joked. 
About in modern media, I don't 

1647
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,840
know if you're familiar with a 
show called American Gods. 

1648
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,000
It was ATV series from about 10 
years ago now. 

1649
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,600
And every single God from 
ancient up until modern is 

1650
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,360
represented in the show and 
their characters. 

1651
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,720
And humanity in this story 
brings gods into existence just 

1652
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,880
by believing in something. 
So the oldest gods in this story

1653
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,680
are trees, tree worship. 
And then you get into the irony.

1654
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,200
This is the golden bow. 
Yeah. 

1655
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,800
You get into the Odens, you get 
the Zeus. 

1656
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,200
And whatnot. 
But then. 

1657
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,160
There's this like an Expo 
gathering over all these gods 

1658
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,120
where they mate once a year and 
catch up with each other. 

1659
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,640
There's about 50 different 
versions of Jesus because 

1660
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,960
humanity has all these different
beliefs about what Jesus look 

1661
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,280
like. 
So there's a Mexican Jesus, 

1662
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,440
there's a white and light Jesus,
there's a female Jesus. 

1663
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:46,920
It's always Jesus. 
And it's just kind of throwing 

1664
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,800
it in our face. 
Yeah, of course. 

1665
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,040
Because if they confuse. 
It we'll never figure it out. 

1666
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,360
And then it also plays into the 
Gnostic. 

1667
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,360
Thing because. 
Then Jesus is everything, right?

1668
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:02,960
And everything is everything. 
And it's in the grass and the 

1669
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,200
dirt. 
It's in you and it's in me. 

1670
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,360
And I do believe that in a 
different way. 

1671
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,720
Not not that way. 
I do believe that Jesus is in 

1672
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,800
everything, but not like how 
they're talking about. 

1673
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,160
I also don't want to be. 
Yeldebeus. 

1674
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:18,200
Oops. 
Like. 

1675
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:22,240
The the particles in the Pluroma
of Oopsie Yeldebeus. 

1676
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,160
Like there's some great stories.
I don't know. 

1677
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:28,640
People don't know. 
That's a Gnostic story, people. 

1678
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,160
Check that out. 
If you don't know we're in Oops,

1679
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,640
there's some. 
Connections in this that he. 

1680
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,080
Makes between Egyptian. 
History and the expulsion of the

1681
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,920
Hyksos, and I don't know if 
you're familiar with who they 

1682
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,280
are. 
The Hyksos were according to 

1683
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,200
modern academia were eleven time
people from the Levant region, 

1684
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,000
Palestine Philistine area that 
came across into Egypt and 

1685
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,600
conquered northern Egypt. 
Dismissed all the gods except 

1686
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:59,120
for one, the Akhenaten, which is
the sun God, and they ruled 

1687
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,720
there. 
They adopted the culture of 

1688
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:05,400
Egypt for quite a while until 
they're expelled and kicked out.

1689
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:11,360
He likens this as being the 
story of Noah of of Moses rather

1690
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,760
and Moses being kicked out of 
Egypt. 

1691
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,280
And he does the Gnostic story of
spinning Old Testament on its 

1692
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,360
head. 
The good guys, the bad guys, the

1693
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,440
bad guys, the old guys, even 
Abraham, he brings back to an 

1694
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:28,000
Egyptian word called Abraham 
came into Egypt, not Abraham. 

1695
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:33,240
Abraham was a Hyksos God. 
So he goes down this this 

1696
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,120
dialectic of do you know that 
the the Jews were the bad guys, 

1697
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,680
right? 
And he's talking about in 

1698
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,120
talking about it in hush tones 
to try and kind of make them the

1699
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,320
others. 
But at the same time, the rest 

1700
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,480
of his book is trying to say 
that the Scots are the true 

1701
01:28:47,480 --> 01:28:50,840
Jews. 
Again, confirmation bias doesn't

1702
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,000
really matter. 
New Testament. 

1703
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,840
Come on, people, the program. 
Oh boy, oh boy. 

1704
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,280
This is actually interesting. 
Because you and I both know some

1705
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,840
people that really, really dig 
the Akhenaten Jesus theory. 

1706
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,480
So I'm assuming they may have 
read this book. 

1707
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,480
I might have to get this book, I
guess the dry British book, it 

1708
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,760
is very dry. 
And if you don't, If you're not 

1709
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,960
academically. 
Minded. 

1710
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,680
He's going to use the big words 
in there that'll throw you out. 

1711
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,840
I apologize to my listeners 
early when I start recording 

1712
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,760
these. 
It's not worse than Steiner's 

1713
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,600
6000 lectures that I do. 
Certainly not worse than that, 

1714
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,480
but you will if you are a. 
Lover of history and 

1715
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,800
particularly of Greek mythology,
you'll love to listen and the 

1716
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,320
alternative take on that. 
Well, that's what I can put out.

1717
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,520
He does a lot of talk about 
Creighton, the Cretans and how 

1718
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,880
we have that term now by history
because Crete is kind of 

1719
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,280
rebelling against the rest of of
Greece and that's how we refer 

1720
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,400
to people today. 
Interesting to the linguistics. 

1721
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:52,680
You just have to sift through 
the weeds and to find the flower

1722
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,600
inside, which is the truth, 
which is half the fun. 

1723
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,480
I'm I'm fascinated by this whole
thing now I. 

1724
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,920
Didn't know exactly where. 
You were going with your book 

1725
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,800
and now I have to get that book 
because the Mormons are Irish 

1726
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,880
and they have this weird Rex 
Deus story. 

1727
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,560
And when people get in trouble 
here, like our attorney general 

1728
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:16,480
that said he was not a cannibal,
Drew, he got up and I'm not 

1729
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:18,760
kidding. 
I'm not going to name his name. 

1730
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,200
People can look it up. 
Nobody asked him. 

1731
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,520
I don't know if God like played 
a trick on him and something 

1732
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,600
came in his ear and he thought 
somebody asked him. 

1733
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,280
But in the middle of a press 
conference, press conference on 

1734
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:34,600
TV, he said I am not a cannibal.
Nobody asked. 

1735
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,160
Nobody asked I. 
Can you imagine being there? 

1736
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,120
What did he do? 
Why? 

1737
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,320
Why did? 
You say that. 

1738
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:42,400
Could you? 
Imagine being his wife. 

1739
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,880
What are you doing? 
Stop that weirdo. 

1740
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,760
Like so, but then go and bite 
her ear off. 

1741
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,320
Do it. 
I'm not a cannibal. 

1742
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,400
I'm not, and so I was. 
Everybody was confused. 

1743
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,920
That they were like what? 
And so he ran away and bought a 

1744
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,480
castle in Scotland. 
So as you do, you know, getting,

1745
01:31:01,480 --> 01:31:03,960
getting going back. 
To old Jerusalem, apparently. 

1746
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,840
Apparently he's going to the 
homeland so. 

1747
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,280
Weird. 
Super weird. 

1748
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,040
We have. 
To tell you. 

1749
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:16,400
That as you're reading all this,
I'm like, Yep, they know the 

1750
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,120
story. 
Mexico or. 

1751
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,440
Scotland. 
That's where they're going wild.

1752
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,680
Absolutely wild. 
Well. 

1753
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,120
We're not going to be like an 
Oprah's Book Club and then tell 

1754
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,560
people to go out and buy books. 
But for the listeners, if you do

1755
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,040
want to get hold of these, they 
are stupidly expensive. 

1756
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:36,680
Stupidly expensive. 
I put that down to two reasons. 

1757
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,880
The guy's dead and it's up to 
someone to publish these second 

1758
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,840
part. 
It does contain a lot of no, no 

1759
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,960
words, Aryans, cure bloods, all 
that jazz. 

1760
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,760
Very ethnocentric, but it makes 
sense for the time it was 

1761
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,960
written. 
This guy comes from a world that

1762
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:57,200
was prior to the Nazi party. 
And academia did believe in 

1763
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,400
those words and they used those 
words. 

1764
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,360
And I don't think those words 
are necessarily bad. 

1765
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,760
It's just a certain mustache man
from Austria who liked to paint 

1766
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,560
paintings made it bad for 
everyone. 

1767
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,720
So if you want to do these 
books, you may or may not be 

1768
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,040
able to get it in your country. 
Oh, really? 

1769
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,280
Yeah. 
That's weird it. 

1770
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:15,880
Could be illegal in some 
countries. 

1771
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,000
That's weird, yeah. 
Mine is 5 bucks. 

1772
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:21,840
Now because. 
It's on the no note list. 

1773
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:27,400
Mine's on the no note list, so 
yeah, it's like 495 on Goodreads

1774
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,480
with bad ratings, so there's 
that. 

1775
01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:32,200
I'm going to have to get that 
just because it's a cheap book. 

1776
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:33,280
Oh, that's my library. 
It's. 

1777
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,240
Cheap. 
Yeah, Yep, it's. 

1778
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,160
It's actually got, like I said, 
it's got a lot of really cool 

1779
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,920
pictures. 
It's got a lot of really cool 

1780
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,960
definitions and important things
that are true and very strange 

1781
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,240
and weird, like definitions of 
occultic type stuff. 

1782
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:53,560
I did find it funny. 
One last thing too, I found it 

1783
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,760
kind of on maps and everything. 
Drew, you'll like it. 

1784
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,880
I did find it a little bit funny
that he lost his faith. 

1785
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,680
I think it was in 1960 and the 
funding ran out in 1959. 

1786
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,480
Probably a coincidence. 
I don't know. 

1787
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,360
What was he shaking the cock? 
Is the face feeling pretty thin 

1788
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,920
right now? 
He's like, look, give me my 

1789
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,880
money. 
They were done digging in. 

1790
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,160
Mexico because I didn't find 
anything cool so. 

1791
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,360
I wonder if you're going to 
extrapolate that little 

1792
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,960
situation to. 
People in the conspiratorial 

1793
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,720
podcasting lens, when people are
dogmatic about Tartari and then 

1794
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,600
eight years after they've made 
all the money and the topic 

1795
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,960
starts to die out, they suddenly
go, oh, we got it wrong. 

1796
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,000
It wasn't true. 
No, no, no, that's not what they

1797
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,560
do. 
They never say they got it. 

1798
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,520
Wrong. 
And then they're like, look at 

1799
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,440
this Hollywood guy. 
It's really Elvis. 

1800
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,600
This guy is Elvis, and this is 
not. 

1801
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,000
He's not dead. 
He's our president. 

1802
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,240
Oh, yeah, yeah. 
The new thing is, the new 

1803
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,760
thing's not putting out books 
and waiting. 60 years for it to 

1804
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,560
germinate into popular culture. 
The new one is micro trending, 

1805
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,360
jumping on TikTok, pointing to 
things behind you going oh, look

1806
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,000
at. 
This Did you know Donald? 

1807
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,600
Trump is actually General 
Patton. 

1808
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,800
I thought he was Elvis. 
Yeah, exactly a video. 

1809
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,760
A2 ago he was Elvis so they 
can't. 

1810
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,680
Even keep track of the people 
they're trying to, you know, 

1811
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,160
talk about no, no one better. 
One better. 

1812
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,200
We got to. 
Do it, They don't wait for a 

1813
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,640
super long time on the books 
because they AI AM and they're 

1814
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,640
done in like 5 minutes. 
Yes, it's very convenient when 

1815
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,720
you've got a. 
Pre written book and you end up 

1816
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,480
on a major series of podcasts or
within 10 days and your book is 

1817
01:34:35,480 --> 01:34:39,080
the topic of conversation that 
somehow you've been writing for 

1818
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,600
a very long time. 
But you appear on all the shows 

1819
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,320
and then you've got all the big 
name people all at once. 

1820
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,520
Which drew as long as you've 
known me, let's see I've. 

1821
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,240
Been doing this for almost 3 
years. 

1822
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:54,040
I have been doing research and 
study and some writing of a 

1823
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,440
book. 
There's no I'm not even 100 

1824
01:34:56,440 --> 01:34:58,000
pages in. 
It's been three years. 

1825
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,720
That's it takes so. 
Long and. 

1826
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,520
I can't even imagine if it ever 
gets done and I get it edited. 

1827
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,680
Like that's going to take a 
billion years. 

1828
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,400
Like I might be dead when my 
book gets written too. 

1829
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:14,520
Maybe it'll be stupid extensive 
and you know I'm going to 

1830
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,120
surprise the viewers guess. 
What I'm also writing a book. 

1831
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,680
But it's not conspiratorial. 
It's just a work of fiction. 

1832
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:21,840
It's a bit of fun. 
It's a story. 

1833
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,640
And I've also written a kids 
picture story book. 

1834
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,560
But I'm not going to build a 
pulp profile on that and go on 

1835
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,680
to every circuit and go to 
conventions for adults who are 

1836
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,000
trying to be 1 but don't want to
go to Comic Con because I think 

1837
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,120
it's nerdy. 
I would rather go to I think 

1838
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:39,680
Comic Con might be fun you. 
Can at least wear an outfit. 

1839
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,400
Always have fun with it, you 
don't have to like you. 

1840
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,200
You're pretending to be 
something that you're not, but 

1841
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,080
it's a different type of thing. 
I think that's fun. 

1842
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,480
I don't know. 
I mean, I'm not against any. 

1843
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:54,920
Of it but look here's the thing 
like if you want to do any AI 

1844
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,720
book that's fine like if and 
some people have done a lot of 

1845
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,120
studying and just used AI to put
it together that's a different 

1846
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:05,160
thing right and and I'm not 
dissing anybody that wants to go

1847
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:09,000
do whatever they want to do but 
don't act offended when 

1848
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,880
academics because there are some
of us in the podcast world that 

1849
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:19,080
have multiple degrees and we're 
academics and when we go like 

1850
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,120
that and I'll never. 
Not say like. 

1851
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,200
I just had a guy on that I 
completely disagree with. 

1852
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:30,520
OK, he thinks we should all go 
do the Torah feasts and all the 

1853
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,720
things and I have to go in a 
shed. 

1854
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,600
Thank God I don't bleed anymore.
Literally. 

1855
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,240
I'm not kidding. 
I'm not saying it in a bad way. 

1856
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,120
I don't know. 
I don't know what that is, but 

1857
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,000
like I would still have them on 
to hear them out because I like 

1858
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,640
to hear people out. 
That's the whole point. 

1859
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,160
If I agreed with everyone, how 
boring really. 

1860
01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:56,520
But also there's some people 
like that. 

1861
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:57,760
You've never. 
Heard of this guy? 

1862
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,680
Because he doesn't. 
He's not an infomercial, you 

1863
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:06,000
know, He's just a guy like who 
has a fairly OK theory. 

1864
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,240
Like I would still hear him out,
but it's it's not hearing it out

1865
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,240
every day on end and end and 
end. 

1866
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,480
So yeah, you get my point. 
Anyway, I do. 

1867
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,440
Or you could be like me and be a
contentious person and invite. 

1868
01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:20,840
People on and then challenge 
them and they seem to swim and 

1869
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,960
not like being challenged and 
then put the word out and you 

1870
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,360
got the kibosh on you and people
don't want to show anymore. 

1871
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,240
But anyway, that's we're talking
about that, yeah. 

1872
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,800
Oh boy. 
But we're going to get in 

1873
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,200
trouble for that to your 
benefit. 

1874
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,160
Though like you mentioned, 
people, they'll do a lot of 

1875
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,760
research and they'll. 
Compile it and they'll get AI to

1876
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,400
write it right. 
AI is still writing it like. 

1877
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:43,760
Are they actually? 
Are they? 

1878
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,280
Doing deep research where 
they're rewording it themselves 

1879
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,960
and or are they just copying and
pasting from links online and 

1880
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,600
then getting the book written 
for them? 

1881
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,600
Because I can read someone's 
book or a piece of writing and I

1882
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,800
can tell when AI is doing it. 
Because if you've heard the 

1883
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:02,680
person speak versus the way the 
person writes, yes, there is an 

1884
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,720
academic form of writing that's 
different from the way you 

1885
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,760
speak. 
But you can tell when someone's 

1886
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,240
talking and that they are in 
vocabulary limit to the words 

1887
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,720
that they're actually using in 
conversation versus what they're

1888
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,720
putting into a whole book. 
True. 

1889
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,840
Bit of a red flag. 
True, true, true. 

1890
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,840
And honestly? 
Like either way you do it, it's 

1891
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,640
fine, but I don't think it 
should be compared to the works 

1892
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,240
that are old, you know, like 
these older books that, and I 

1893
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,240
think that's the only reason why
I even bring it up. 

1894
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,960
But I have seen some reviews on 
Amazon lately. 

1895
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:38,280
No one in our podcast community.
OK, I was just looking at some 

1896
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:43,640
books and literally it's like 
printing the day before they got

1897
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,360
it. 
They were like, apparently this 

1898
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,960
is printed just for me. 
How weird is that? 

1899
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:52,320
Like they're just literally 
typing things into AI the night 

1900
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,680
before they sell it on Amazon. 
Yeah. 

1901
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,280
And you've got the mechanisms on
Amazon where you had it. 

1902
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,720
Published, binded and sent out. 
We saw that during COVID, like 

1903
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,240
those books that came out within
a day or two of events 

1904
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,400
happening, but had yeah, chapter
upon chapter upon chapter of 

1905
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,920
information and it just came out
so weird. 

1906
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,440
That's that to. 
Me is really like a new one 

1907
01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:18,880
because you would think like, I 
mean, I get it, like you don't 

1908
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,920
want to waste money and I guess 
wait till it's sold. 

1909
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,560
But also like that doesn't tell 
me you have a whole lot of faith

1910
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:25,800
in yourself. 
So I don't know. 

1911
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,880
No. 
And that's the Catch 22, the 

1912
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,840
balancing act that we have. 
You don't want to go to a lot of

1913
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,080
these newer sources because 
there's a state of entropy. 

1914
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:38,040
I think when it comes to the 
occult conspiracy theories, 

1915
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,680
we're regurgitating information 
that's been done 20 times over, 

1916
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,520
if not more, and people have 
done it all. 

1917
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,360
And the occult hundreds. 
Yeah. 

1918
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:47,920
Because if not thousands. 
Because of thousands of years of

1919
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,800
regurgitation. 
And they're not really getting 

1920
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,240
to the minutiae and the point of
it. 

1921
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,560
So you're getting this very 
watered down version of things, 

1922
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,080
which can be dangerous because 
then it might sound appealing, 

1923
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,680
it might send you down the path 
of Gnosticism. 

1924
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:02,640
Then you've got the opposite 
side of things. 

1925
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,320
You have books like these, which
were written quite a long time 

1926
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,560
ago. 
You can tell it's of the 

1927
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,720
language of the person that 
wrote it, of their station. 

1928
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,440
But then again, you have to 
double check their sources just 

1929
01:40:12,440 --> 01:40:14,520
because it's a book from the 
1930s. 

1930
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:19,200
Doesn't mean it's an academic 
piece of amazingness. 

1931
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,520
It's not always the case. 
Yep, Yep. 

1932
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,640
And even if there's some 
interesting. 

1933
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,800
Things in there and that are 
true, it doesn't make it true. 

1934
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:32,080
And what if you're a magician 
and you buy that crappy book and

1935
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,320
you do the thing wrong and you 
screw yourself over and you're 

1936
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,040
screwed for the rest of your 
life because you did it wrong? 

1937
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:38,480
Exactly. 
You don't want to. 

1938
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:40,800
You don't want to practice 
binding demons if you. 

1939
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,120
Don't have the right things at 
your disposal. 

1940
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,920
I wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't
do it anyway. 

1941
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,440
So yeah. 
But there are people out there 

1942
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:50,080
who because of the New Age 
movement. 

1943
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,600
Think they can do these things? 
And if you're a lion, although 

1944
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,640
from Amazon, that was printed 
two weeks earlier. 

1945
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,920
Probably not your best. 
Source Well, although Agrippa 

1946
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,120
said nothing he wrote was true 
and that he. 

1947
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:05,720
Didn't practice. 
OK, I'm on one. 

1948
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,800
I'm sorry, but that's real. 
He. 

1949
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,800
Really said that. 
But also they were trying to 

1950
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:15,200
kill witches, so I mean, yeah. 
I don't know, whatever. 

1951
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,840
Yeah, well, I but he wrote it 
himself. 

1952
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,320
Yes, there you go there. 
That's that's that's. 

1953
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:22,760
Good. 
He did it on himself, by 

1954
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:26,200
himself, that that's a man of 
substance right there. 

1955
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:31,520
But I think that's not real. 
So yours is, you know. 

1956
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,080
In a nutshell, people. 
Drews is there is a white Jesus 

1957
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:40,440
in Britain and I have a white 
feathered Jesus in Mesoamerica. 

1958
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,520
So, so sorry if we extrapolate 
those and combine those things. 

1959
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:49,960
Jesus was a white Scottish 
lizard dragon, and he went from 

1960
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:54,280
Scotland, the Hebades, and went 
all the way to the New World. 

1961
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,440
For some reason he needed a tan.
Yeah, he needed a tan. 

1962
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,840
Scotland's dreary and there's no
spices there. 

1963
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,240
Like, come on, they went all the
way to. 

1964
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,440
South America to get some 
capsicum and bell Peppers and 

1965
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,720
chilies and tahin yes, and tahin
yes. 

1966
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,400
Nothing says Jesus like let's. 
Sacrifice some people on an. 

1967
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,800
Altar on a giant pyramid. 
That's what happened. 

1968
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,920
So and you. 
Know the calendar thing that was

1969
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,680
wrong, but that's OK, we'll 
forget about that. 

1970
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:23,920
And the DNA thing that was also 
wrong. 

1971
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,440
Wait, wait, wait, wait. 
Wait, don't, don't look at 

1972
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:28,240
those. 
Yeah. 

1973
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,280
You'll get excommunicated. 
If that didn't come through my 

1974
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,320
message, I don't know what else 
can't. 

1975
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,520
Don't forget Romneys are in it. 
Dun Dun Dun Dun. 

1976
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,520
So Dang it Hardy, if you just 
keep focusing on the negative. 

1977
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:40,960
Wrong. 
Things in these books you'll 

1978
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,360
never get anywhere. 
I know, I know. 

1979
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,440
I think I missed the point. 
I missed the point, I guess I 

1980
01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:50,320
don't know. 
Well, we we did say the name of 

1981
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,240
this show was unfiltered. 
Point I think we were pretty 

1982
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,320
harsh on the authors at times, 
but Ouch. 

1983
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,280
But we that we take take it for.
What it is, though, there's 

1984
01:42:58,280 --> 01:42:59,520
some. 
Great stuff in there and there's

1985
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,240
some really silly stuff and you 
kind of have to point out the 

1986
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,200
silly stuff. 
I'm not a going to be a fanboy 

1987
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,720
within this community and 
promote something that I don't 

1988
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:13,120
100% believe in and I'm pretty 
sure we know, but unfortunately.

1989
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,840
I do see a lot of people. 
That jump onto a trend and then 

1990
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,640
they make their entire persona 
about that. 

1991
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,760
But that's true, don't you do 
you? 

1992
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,000
That's that's fine. 
You can be that person, that's 

1993
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:25,200
fine. 
I will not be that person. 

1994
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,640
Absolutely no. 
No. 

1995
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,520
Yeah, you guys gotta. 
But I will say this, anybody 

1996
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,240
that's reading books at this 
point in this day and age, good.

1997
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,080
Yeah. 
You are the chosen people 

1998
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,920
because you read. 
You're a set about that's. 

1999
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,440
Right. 
That's right. 

2000
01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:40,960
And if you're Mormon, you 
probably really. 

2001
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:45,000
Are you're chosen? 
So is this like like a burn book

2002
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,720
situation? 
Where we're going to come up 

2003
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,920
with a like a Oprah Book Club 
seal. 

2004
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,240
But it's the Burn Book, the 
unfiltered, unfiltered point. 

2005
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,320
Seal of disapproval. 
And we pick everyone up The 

2006
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,600
point Burn this book. 
Burn this book. 

2007
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,200
Oh. 
Don't really though, sorry you 

2008
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,800
wasted your money but this one 
was only $5.00 so it's OK. 

2009
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,600
Hey, that's right. 
No, there's cool stuff in this 

2010
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:07,520
one. 
Don't burn this one. 

2011
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,680
I I think it's kind of sad 
because and God, do not burn 

2012
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,800
this one that's expensive. 
If I would if you burn this one,

2013
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,680
jeez. 
Off, off, all right, especially.

2014
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,560
When you ship to Australia, Oh 
Oh no, the shipping got you. 

2015
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,840
I. 
Yeah, the cost was bad enough, 

2016
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,160
but then when I realized the 
shipping cost. 

2017
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:29,040
Went on topos. 
I got my most out of reading it.

2018
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:30,360
Let's. 
Just let's put that way. 

2019
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,480
You're like, that's all right 
now it goes to the shelf. 

2020
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:34,640
Dun Dun. 
Dun. 

2021
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,360
Oh no, you're going to do a 
thing on it. 

2022
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:38,560
Yeah. 
Although, yeah. 

2023
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,120
And I am intrigued to actually 
get his other books to see. 

2024
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,880
Where he's actually drawing 
historical parallels from 

2025
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,280
because the history is good. 
I think it gives a good insight 

2026
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:51,320
into human movements across 
Europe from the step and all the

2027
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,640
different groups, which I think 
could give us a greater insight 

2028
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:58,760
into pre diluvian times. 
But I think he's missing the 

2029
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,720
mark in some other areas, which 
is OK. 

2030
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,000
And they probably killed him. 
No, just kidding, did. 

2031
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,120
He die. 
He did. 

2032
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,440
OK. 
I was just gonna ask, like, did 

2033
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:10,520
he die about death? 
Because my dude made it too old.

2034
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,360
So something about being having 
a red handkerchief around his. 

2035
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,360
Neck and a doorknob or no, Just 
joking. 

2036
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,160
Oh no, look at this guy. 
Oh wait, look how creepy. 

2037
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,120
This guy is. 
Doesn't he just scream? 

2038
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,920
I'm a part of MI 6, you know, he
looks just like. 

2039
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,040
He looks what's his? 
Oh my gosh. 

2040
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:31,560
Yeah. 
MI 6 British. 

2041
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,600
He's most likely linked to 
Aristotle. 

2042
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,000
He didn't smile. 
No, Yeah, so maybe his teeth. 

2043
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,960
Are bad but we can't tell you 
scream an MI 5 MI 6 for sure. 

2044
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,720
Definitely, definitely weird. 
Well, maybe it was planned. 

2045
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,000
Who knows, Like we definitely 
don't. 

2046
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:53,120
And my guy did go like I asked 
like what happened after? 

2047
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,800
Like where'd he go? 
And it was like, oh, he just 

2048
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:59,320
obscurity, like, leave him 
alone, OK? 

2049
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,240
He disappeared himself. 
That just fills you full of 

2050
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,440
confidence, doesn't it? 
I mean, he lived till he was in 

2051
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:07,040
his 80s, but yeah, he was like 
he. 

2052
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:08,520
Lived a private life. 
I'm like this. 

2053
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,840
So the church paid him off. 
You know, there's another book I

2054
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:14,120
found that I'm not going to talk
about right now. 

2055
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,200
Right now. 
But so wait, that's all I got to

2056
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,360
do to retire is write a book 
about Mormonism. 

2057
01:46:18,440 --> 01:46:19,840
They disavow and then get paid 
off. 

2058
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,240
You probably hold on. 
I'm going to chat with GPT right

2059
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:23,880
now. 
Yeah. 

2060
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,600
Yeah. 
It's true this guy wrote this. 

2061
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:31,280
Book and it's all about 
Dartmouth and I read this I read

2062
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,320
this whole thing about the book 
I find a podcast about the book 

2063
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,400
can't find the book anywhere 
like. 

2064
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:45,480
Not for a billion dollars, I. 
Mean it's gone so I'm like 

2065
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,760
that's weird I don't know so if 
you. 

2066
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:51,000
Wrote that book. 
Come talk to me. 

2067
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,800
'Cause that's weird. 
If you happen to see whiskey. 

2068
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,840
Guys but weird, how about you? 
Some advice to listeners. 

2069
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:58,040
If they're looking. 
For. 

2070
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:02,080
Particular niche books. 
Where would you advise they try 

2071
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,800
to find them? 
Mine. 

2072
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,760
I'm always at the bookstore. 
It's in the mall, It's so easy. 

2073
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,720
For me, but it's like a second 
hand bookstore. 

2074
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,680
It's Eborn Books. 
The guy knows me by name. 

2075
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,120
He's like, hey, what's up lady 
that buys all the books? 

2076
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,680
Yeah, I agree. 
You have to go to those. 

2077
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,720
Like Little. 
Niche coffee shops slash they 

2078
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,200
have books up on the walls and 
you can buy them if you want to.

2079
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,880
Those are good places. 
Amazon is hit and miss because 

2080
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,360
it's so commercialized that 
certain topics that will just 

2081
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,000
flag and not allow on there or 
they won't be on for very long. 

2082
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,840
EBay be or it'll be printed the 
night before on see through 

2083
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,520
paper. 
Yeah, yeah, Or, you know, eBay 

2084
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,680
is good because it's. 
It's a physical place where 

2085
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,680
people just pop there. 
I have seen some on what's that?

2086
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:48,960
What's that book type? 
Etsy. 

2087
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,680
Etsy. 
I have found books on Etsy. 

2088
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:55,440
That are old books, so sometimes
you'll find some cool ones 

2089
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:56,360
there. 
Yeah, nice. 

2090
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,000
Well, Heidi, Read Read people. 
That's good. 

2091
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,240
Please read. 
And even if it's rubbish. 

2092
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,320
And if you have to start off 
with sesame. 

2093
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:07,880
Street in the morning going 
through the ABC. 

2094
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,920
Song that's fine because you 
will get there eventually, but 

2095
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,000
read your Bible first. 
Yes, and don't use AI. 

2096
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,360
To write your books. 
And then go on the circuit and 

2097
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:19,840
do other things. 
Caddy. 

2098
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,120
This has been fun, Heidi. 
And like I said to my. 

2099
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,240
We're the pointy unfiltered 
tonight. 

2100
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:33,480
Next time, we'll be unfiltered. 
Point I have been drew. 

2101
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:35,440
Mr. View of Mr. Point podcast, 
like I said. 

2102
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,120
I will be recording each of 
these chapters and putting my 

2103
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:43,800
thoughts to the ends of these 
and putting it out purely based 

2104
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,360
on the price of this book. 
I don't expect people to go out 

2105
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,280
there and buy it, nor would I 
advise you to. 

2106
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,400
If you want to, by all means, It
is quite expensive. 

2107
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,920
The information is great 
historically and geographically,

2108
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:59,480
linguistically tips all the 
boxes for me as a academic and 

2109
01:48:59,480 --> 01:49:01,160
someone who loves that stuff as 
a hobby. 

2110
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,800
But connecting it to scripture 
was my bit of an issue. 

2111
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,280
Heidi, how about you? 
Where can listeners find you? 

2112
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,840
Awesome. 
I am Heidi love of the 

2113
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,360
unfiltered drives. 
Everywhere podcasts are served 

2114
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,400
if you want more of me because 
you know, you just love how I 

2115
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,920
laugh or some silly thing who 
knows what I am at Unfiltered 

2116
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,680
drives on Patreon as well. 
I do two extra shows a month. 

2117
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,360
I hate cutting episodes or doing
any weird stuff like that 

2118
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,640
because it's just not me. 
So find me there. 

2119
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,320
I'm 5 bucks. 
It's like I'm not going to raise

2120
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,600
it unless they raise the prices 
just because I feel that's fair 

2121
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,760
and I want to be fair to my 
listeners. 

2122
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,640
So thank you for following. 
Thank you, Drew. 

2123
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,280
As always. 
It is a pleasure. 

2124
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,120
Even though you're pointy 
unfiltered tonight. 

2125
01:49:41,480 --> 01:49:44,160
Yeah, I can't help it. 
Next time it's you, I'll have to

2126
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,840
hand you the torch. 
Yes, you know, you never know 

2127
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,040
with me, no. 
Man, our guys, we'll catch you 

2128
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:51,680
all next time. 
Bye.