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You're feeling a bit like Alice 
tumbling down the rabbit hole. 

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You take the blue pill. 
The story ends. 

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You wake up in your bed and 
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how deep the rabbit hole goes. 
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Are you? 
Let's go now to our new episode 

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of The Unfiltered Rise With Me, 
Heidi Love. 

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Hello, and welcome to another 
episode of The Unfiltered Rise. 

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And today I have another guest 
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Lala is here, and she's going to
tell you a little bit about 

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herself. 
Hi Lala. 

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How you doing tonight? 
I'm great. 

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Thanks for having me. 
It's been a minute since I've 

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been recording anything, so I 
look forward to just talking. 

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Some people might know me from 
Instagram on Blaze. 

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No PSYOP and a couple other 
places that we might mention 

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later. 
OK, yeah, mention any plugs you 

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got and that's awesome. 
So that people can find you. 

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Yeah, that'll that'll be 
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And then I I originally hit you 
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whole story. 
So this is kind of funny. 

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And it I think it will go in a 
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I'm very unfiltered. 
That's why it's called 

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Unfiltered Rise. 
I don't really need the whole 

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scripted. 
It's just like, OK, here it is, 

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you know, because I think it's 
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And I get a lot of slack from 
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are like, oh, that guest 
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questions or I'm like, we are 
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conversation, me and me and you.
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are like, grill or just let the 
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I don't know. 
That's me. 

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I like it. 
Yeah, like a combo, you know? 

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I know your. 
Guest So I'm just I'm going with

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the flow, so. 
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And I originally saw you because
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and we're getting close to 
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And I love Christmas. 
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Pagan stuff around Christmas, 
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things about Christmas itself 
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Because you had presented some 
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saw people jumping all over you 
about it. 

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I read like all these 140 
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down below and you're like, did 
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And I was like, so stupid. 
Why did they not read like, you 

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put it in slides? 
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follow the little arrow. 
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people made it through the 
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No, they the reason why is 
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little bit about my testimony. 
I'm very short, came out of the 

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new age. 
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exposing the new age, became a 
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biblical feast and in Leviticus 
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starting traditions because I 
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so I did not want to start any 
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them. 
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really been me, prayerfully 
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my family and studying the holy 
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a way that is Christian, not 
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much wisdom from God. 
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at now, which is for this sake 
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I mean, I do not believe that 
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especially if you are using it 
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because I've been doing a lot of
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history. 
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talking about, one of them being
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In two in 8200, he wrote a 
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why he believed that the Messiah
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and born on December 25th. 
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that he was right or wrong. 
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there's evidence of Christian 
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infiltrated even back then. 
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person wrote. 
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series called The Refutation of 
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And so we are lucky to live in a
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reference what he says against 
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amazing and evident that he was 
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devil. 
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They want to well and the devil 
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destroy anything that we have. 
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problem. 
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there is Pagan holidays there is
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the winter solstice. 
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Saturnalia, there's all these 
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But it doesn't have to mean it's
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and your point to your point 
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which was great was this had 
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Saturnalia at least I'm not sure
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Christians were kind of 
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of read from your timeline a lot
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Associate Constantine with 
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holidays into Christianity. 
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ruled. 
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20,000 martyrs of Nicodemia that
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faith under even the threat of 
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And the whole church was burned.
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This was on a Christmas service.
So I think people are I, I think

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you really to put yourself in 
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they instead of renouncing 
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believed or had faith in in the 
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willing to say that? 
Would you be willing to martyr 

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your life for your faith? 
And so they were. 

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They were in the church on 
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And to your point, there was, 
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was during a completely 
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It was the week before and I 
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to say that this has been 
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You people do say the soul 
Invictus, the celebration of his

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birth is on December 25th, which
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early church history and the 
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they were writing about so. 
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there about John the Baptist and
his birth and their calculations

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and all that. 
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weren't there, but like, to your
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We can get on here and study 
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There's books, there's the 
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things. 
But yet, how many people make it

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past the first slide? 
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Like, did you even look at the 
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And I'm like, gosh, people like,
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anything. 
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I don't care what it is. 
You need to put some research 

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into it. 
If you really care about this 

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enough to argue it to the death,
like, these people won't get on 

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here and argue it. 
I mean, if you don't care, like,

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don't go study it. 
That's awesome. 

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Move on with your life. 
But if you're going to comment, 

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like, make sure you know what 
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That's mine. 
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people come at me like I just 
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Christmas. 
Like I love Christmas, that I 

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just don't want to let go. 
It was always my least favorite 

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holiday. 
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commercialism of it. 
I never grew up thinking Santa 

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was real. 
I told my child Santa is a a 

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character. 
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I don't lie to her about that. 
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everything that we have and so 
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obsessed with Christmas. 
I just don't want to attribute 

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things to Satan that are good. 
I mean, I don't see how teaching

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your your children about the 
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is bad. 
I do think it's bad to lie to 

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your child about Santa, which 
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That is my opinion. 
And then on top of that, you can

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demonize anything. 
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but he is based on like Saint 
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But then people say no, he's 
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But then we bring in Tammuz and 
that whole story, like with that

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stuff, like you can turn like 
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No, the tree was this. 
You know, I mean, you can 

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literally go down this rabbit 
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This is something we're never 
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And and then here and now. 
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present, because I'm going to be
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Elliot later, but it's getting 
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Like, not necessarily the 
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the family time, the decor I 
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Like all these things. 
And am I hanging my tree full of

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testicles? 
No, because that's not my 

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intention, right? 
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and people are so lost on 
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And I'm like, OK, here's the 
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If you talk to an occultist, a 
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you will have no power without 
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Because, I mean, it's all about 
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So if my intention is about 
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You know? 
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And there's different symbols, 
like Christianity has a flip 

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side of that, right? 
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I guess my whole point is like, 
let's not just throw the baby 

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out with the bathwater, cuz I 
did that before. 

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But I like you came out of a 
very, I mean, I was basically in

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a cold. 
I mean I was a Mormon for 30-4 

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years and I'm I'm like, okay 
after I got out. 

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Like what do you do? 
You know, you get into this 

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weird, like you study. 
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about like, oh, well, Easter's 
pretty Pagan. 

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Oh, this is Pagan, that's Pagan,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 

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blah, blah. 
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you're like, man, I'm just gonna
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this is all, like, a lot of 
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I mean, everything seemed dark, 
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And I'm not saying that it's not
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Obviously, we know this is 
Satan's playground. 

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But yeah, but I mean, that's so 
I think that's common when you 

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come out of, you know, like for 
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For me, it was New Age, you 
realize, wow, I was so deceived 

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and wow, Jesus is king. 
Jesus is real. 

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And what does this mean? 
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infatuated with the darkness 
because now you see it and you 

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begin to, at least for me. 
And I think a lot of people who 

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are in this corner of the 
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detriment sometimes almost like 
I think that I that's why I call

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myself a a recovering conspiracy
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Because two years ago when all 
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hold of people's minds and 
lives, it really was hard to 

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discern what was true and what 
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And over the past few years, 
I've a big part of my story was 

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exposing the right from with it,
like from within, from being 

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deceived by them. 
Because when I came out of the 

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New Age, I saw the patriot 
movement in the same light they 

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were, the exact same they were. 
When I'm reading the Bible and 

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it's telling me, you know, you 
will suffer persecution, you 

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will suffer all of these things.
And then I look to the Christian

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right and they're like, we 
deserve this and that and it's 

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like God is going to God told 
you you guys are going to suffer

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and everyone's going to hate 
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disgusted by everything that was
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Now I'm at a point where I've 
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just see that the biggest thing 
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is focus on the evil within 
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the finger outwards at everyone 
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wretched sinners. 
And so that's where I'm at right

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now. 
We all fall short of the glory 

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every day. 
It doesn't matter what your sin 

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is, It doesn't matter you know 
what it is at all. 

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And with groups, I think it's 
really easy to find yourself. 

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You mentioned the patriot 
movement. 

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Like, then what are you 
pledging? 

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You know, God says make no oath,
right, man. 

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Like, we are supposed to do 
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Like, even though we can be 
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at what point does it become so 
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another God, Right. 
And an idol for me. 

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For me it was. 
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And so that's where I'm like 
always trying to balance things 

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because I like, you don't want 
to go through that again, like I

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already did that, right? 
Speaking of idols, Jeremiah 10 

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is not about Christmas trees. 
I don't know who needs to hear 

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this but stop making memes with 
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then posting Jeremiah 10 under 
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It's literally about cutting 
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Because if you just you do a 
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what the idols used to look 
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gods out of it and then they 
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the golden calf. 
So stop using Jeremiah 10 to 

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twist scripture. 
You were literally twisting 

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scripture to go with the 
Christmases Pagan narrative. 

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That is not what it's about, no 
matter how neat needs you think 

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about it. 
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And even the stories that they 
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Tammuz and she gets pregnant by 
the Christmas tree. 

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OK, how do you know that was the
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Like, what do we know about this
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by mouth? 
Like, how do we know that wasn't

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changed? 
How do we know it wasn't a SIOP?

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How do we know it wasn't back 
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Conspiracy theory. 
Like, how do we know we weren't 

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there, You know? 
So I don't. 

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You never know what comes first,
right? 

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The chicken or the egg? 
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I mean, that's how I feel on 
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It just feels like, I don't 
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It just feels like they try to 
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Yeah, and there there was a 
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who was cutting down an idol and
an Evergreen tree propped up out

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of after he destroyed it. 
And that was part of it. 

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I mean, for me, like I said, I 
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I like Christmas now because it 
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get to share the story of the 
birth of the Messiah with my 

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family and but as far as like 
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like they're nice, like, but 
when people accuse others of 

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idolizing them, I mean that's 
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there are people out there who 
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I think that people are really 
taking that word pretty far when

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they accused someone of that. 
And then it takes the joy out of

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like almost everything. 
I mean it all goes back again to

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intention like like I said and 
and then do you get to like the 

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nitty gritty of like the line? 
Oh well, I didn't go chop this 

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tree down and it's fake and it's
plastic so I'm good. 

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But like people are literally 
writing the line up like Oh 

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well, I'm going to make sure I 
don't hang ball shaped 

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ornaments, I'll hang something 
else and I'm like, do you really

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need to take it that part? 
Like, I mean if you want to, 

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great, but like also do you need
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Like, just follow your 
convictions and stop pointing 

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the finger at others. 
That is the best advice for 

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anything in my opinion. 
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intention, you know playing the 
other side of that, like there 

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are times when people can have 
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the Christian, even in 
Christianity like because what 

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I'm talking about is, you know 
like a lot of these 

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denominations that our really 
new age. 

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And I know that you had someone 
wanting to talk a little bit 

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about that. 
So I don't know if you want me 

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to expand. 
I think. 

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I think a lot of people hear 
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what it means. 
I think a lot of people are lost

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in it because they're like, oh, 
that's not that bad because it's

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Christian, you know? 
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enveloped into, like, it's fine,
totally fine. 

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So. 
OK, so for me, I was deceived by

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New Age ideologies. 
For 15 years I had books on my 

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shelf about Buddhism, Hinduism, 
different types of 

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pseudoscience, So like quantum 
physics and things like that. 

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So New Age is essentially A 
modge podge of all of these 

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types of interest today in the 
conspiracy realm. 

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You'll see accounts talking 
about the 5D ascension, 5D 

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shift, 5D consciousness, all of 
that type of language, divine, 

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feminine and things like that. 
That's all part of it. 

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Now I see a lot of new age to 
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want to like grab low hanging 
fruit like yoga and astrology 

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and things like that. 
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They can open doors, but it's 
baffling to me because those 

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same people are holding hands 
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Christian, right, new age spirit
that I'm talking about. 

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And another aspect of it is 
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that are popping up. 
That's a huge part of the, I 

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believe is sorcery in the church
and just like anything tied to 

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Bethel or things like that. 
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I looked around and I was like, 
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And, you know, I'm pointing it 
out to Christian, like lifelong 

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Christians, and they can't see 
it because they don't know that 

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spirit were for me. 
I was so intimate with that 

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spirit for 15 years that I knew 
every single lie and tactic 

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because I fell for every single 
lie and tactic and it's. 

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The devil you know, right? 
Yeah, right. 

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The devil you know versus the 
devil you don't seems actually 

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gonna catch it. 
Yeah, 'cause you knew. 

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And it's hard for people to let 
go, like, and I I hear a lot now

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about Christians even doing some
things like manifestation. 

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I'm like, you know that that's 
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this can lead back into 
witchcraft real quick. 

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Manifestation is essentially you
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That's what you're doing. 
So you're doing magic to subvert

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God's will. 
True Christianity is submission 

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to God, and someone might say in
the new age because it's very 

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selfish, It's a selfish 
religion. 

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You're worshipping self, someone
might say. 

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Why would I bow down to a God 
who does evil things or allows 

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evil things to happen and all 
these things Well, The thing is,

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is like people who follow God 
know God is good. 

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God is love. 
God gives free will and choice 

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to the people who do bad. 
But you are submitting, knowing 

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that he is a good father who 
loves you and has your best 

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interests and has his ways are 
higher than our ways. 

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And there's a lot of programming
in the new Age that Jesus is 

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just one way to God, that he's 
just in one of the lies Ascended

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Master, which stems all the way 
back to Aleister Crowley. 

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Helena Blavatsky and what's the 
other woman's name? 

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I can't believe I forgot it. 
That's how long it's been since 

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I've been focusing on this 
stuff. 

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But she but the one. 
I'm Marjorie. 

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Not Marjorie Cameron. 
No. 

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Alice Bailey. 
Alice Bailey is on the United 

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Nations website. 
And so it all like New Age, if 

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you believe in any of that. 
And then you're sitting here 

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talking about fighting 
globalism, you're literally part

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of it. 
Like they've they've deceived 

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you into buying into their 
religion. 

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And these agendas go so far, and
they're so insidious most of the

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time. 
Now, lately, they've been pretty

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brazen. 
I've been actually really 

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surprised about some of the 
stuff they've just slapped out 

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there now. 
But it used to be more of this 

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slow boiling pot of the frog, 
you know? 

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And it's like, oh, that's fine, 
that's fine, that's fine. 

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But at some point you turn 
around and go, whoa, what was I 

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like, I know it was like that 
for me with Mormonism. 

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Like I was like, oh, that's 
fine, This is great. 

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Now I'm doing Freemason weirdo 
stuff, right? 

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And I have no weird Freemason 
underwear. 

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Like what? 
And so at some level you. 

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But people even say to me, like,
you seem really smart and you 

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study things like, blah, blah. 
But how did that happen to you? 

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Like that seems so completely 
crazy. 

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And I'm like, I know, but when 
you're doing it, you don't. 

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I don't think you realize, 
right, because you're in it. 

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And if your family's in it, even
more so. 

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And if you live like saturated 
in it, like in a church, in 

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whatever, like a movement, 
whatever it is you, you just 

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wake up one day and everything 
is about that. 

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And how do you leave, right? 
Yeah, yeah, it's hard. 

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So how did you come to the 
knowledge that you were being 

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deceived finally? 
Well, it was in 20. 

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It was after 2020, so it was in 
2021. 

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But it was having to do with all
of the COVID things. 

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I just saw the blatant 
propaganda and I was like 

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watching everyone around me, you
know, not be able to see it. 

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And it was so bizarre as so many
people remember. 

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So I remember just thinking like
why? 

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Why can I see through this? 
And I heard grace and as a non 

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Christian you don't really 
understand what that is. 

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But it triggered me to pray and 
I prayed for God to use me for 

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his will in the spiritual war, 
even though at that point in 

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time I was completely in 
unbelief of Jesus Christ, like 

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blaspheming him, you know, 
blaspheming the Bible, making 

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memes about things like that. 
So I was so far away from Christ

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when I prayed that prayer and I 
encountered the Holy Spirit of I

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think it was the next week after
I prayed that. 

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And one thing I always think 
about is that prayer was 

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postured in submission to His 
will, which is crazy. 

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I didn't know what that meant. 
You just were like, OK, I'm here

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for it. 
So the rest is history. 

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I've been, I've been going to 
like a not a Protestant, non 

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denominational church for the 
past two years and finding 

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issues with that, mainly, you 
know with the war in the Middle 

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East and everything. 
My questions about scripture and

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what modern church believed 
we're we're not lining up. 

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I'll just throw a couple things 
out here for your listeners to 

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research a little bit more. 
Feel free to contact me. 

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The 70s, seventy weeks of Daniel
have been fulfilled. 

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The Rapture is a false doctrine.
It's a heresy, and it's causing 

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a lot of confusion when you 
don't understand the 

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chronological events of 
Scripture, if you don't 

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understand the northern and 
southern Kingdom splitting and 

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what occurred, what they were 
taken captive and all of that. 

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So that is what basically led me
to study church history, and now

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I'm studying Orthodox 
Christianity. 

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So that's where it's led me to 
this point. 

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Right. 
Yeah. 

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I think. 
I think we have to remember that

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God is everywhere in us and we 
have to connect with him 

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regardless of where or how. 
That For me, I have not been 

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able. 
I mean, I live in Utah where 

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90%, yeah, 80% are Mormon. 
I'm, I've not found a church 

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home. 
I just delved into the Bible and

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I knew that his word was good 
enough for me for now. 

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Not that I'm against, I'm not 
against going to a church or 

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doing that. 
But I am very careful about the 

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Bible because we have to 
remember where the splits came 

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from and why. 
And the Council of Nicaea had 

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nothing to do with God, so there
was I I mean, I just think that,

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you know, you have to, you have 
to look at the whole picture. 

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I'm one that looks at the the 
picture even before, because I 

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don't think certain things 
should have been taken out, you 

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know, and I will go to 
apocryphal books especially for 

447
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,200
study. 
Well, I don't know if I 

448
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480
necessarily agree with the 
Council of Nicaea not having 

449
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,040
anything to do with God, but I 
will say that the Protestant 

450
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Reformation is where the books 
were taken out, Martin Luther 

451
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040
and all of that. 
So yeah, I do. 

452
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,040
Personally, I was very careful 
about reading the Apocrypha 

453
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,120
books for the past two years. 
But now that I'm learned that 

454
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:36,320
the oldest Bibles do have those 
books in it, and I've been 

455
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,800
reading them, trying, you know, 
seeing how they stack up. 

456
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,960
But I just was careful, 'cause I
wanted to read the Scriptures 

457
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,680
first. 
That way I could have something,

458
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,680
some frame of reference. 
But the the thing about the 

459
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,720
Protestant churches that was 
really reminiscent of New Age is

460
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520
it was like a build your own 
religion. 

461
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,360
Like build your own Jesus. 
Believe whatever you want, but 

462
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,000
interpret, interpret the 
scriptures however you want. 

463
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,760
And everyone was just OK with 
it. 

464
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,480
And when I started to learn 
about, like, the infiltration of

465
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,360
the seminary schools through the
Schofield Bible and all of that,

466
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,040
and that's where a lot of this 
deception came from, I was like,

467
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:27,320
I was very judgmental and harsh 
against the Catholic Church 

468
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,200
because I deemed them heretical.
But then I'm looking over, we're

469
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,480
at the church I go to and I'm 
like, but they believe in all of

470
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,720
this, these heresies. 
And I'm like what level of 

471
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,720
heresy like am I willing to? 
Accept, right, so that you can 

472
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,760
still be at a church home. 
You know, it's hard because the 

473
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,760
more I think the more you do 
study, the more you almost 

474
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,960
realize, like it's it is a 
personal journey. 

475
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Like, and and I don't know that 
anybody can fully, like, you can

476
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
get together with people and you
can talk about it and all that 

477
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360
stuff, but like, ultimately it's
going to be you and God, right? 

478
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,080
Like, you've got to figure it 
out. 

479
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600
You've got to put the time in. 
It's not going to be handed to 

480
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,240
you. 
I still like sermons. 

481
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,560
I still like people like it's 
hard and kids need it. 

482
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080
I mean, my daughter's always 
like, oh, I want to go, you 

483
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,960
know, so that makes it hard, You
know, I don't know how you feel 

484
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
that way, but. 
Yeah, I mean I I think it's very

485
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
important to be a part of a 
church body. 

486
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Personally, like I, I in Hebrews
it says do not forsake assembly.

487
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:39,000
So I and and you know scripture 
always says bear with one 

488
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200
another. 
I think that a lot of people 

489
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,680
abandoned their church because 
of XYZ, and that's part of 

490
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,000
walking in faith is not agreeing
with every single person, not 

491
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,880
even liking them, and still 
being kind and being charitable 

492
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,640
for me, I've I have made the 
decision to convert to 

493
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Orthodoxy. 
So that's a very recent thing 

494
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,400
for me. 
But after all of everything that

495
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,440
I've studied and doctrine, true 
doctrine is really important to 

496
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,200
me. 
That's where I'm being LED right

497
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,720
now, so. 
I have heard many arguments for 

498
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,440
the Orthodox Church as far as 
being almost the most correct, 

499
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,440
Canon wise, different things 
like that. 

500
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,920
So I I could see why 'cause I 
even was started studying down 

501
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,480
that way, like Jay Dyer and 
different people listening and 

502
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,240
I'm like, OK, what is what is 
this about? 

503
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360
You know? 
And I'm not studied enough in it

504
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760
to even know. 
But I do know that they always 

505
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,960
argue like, Nope, this is the 
only true church you know, and 

506
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,480
they're very serious about it. 
They, the apostles in the book 

507
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,880
of Acts handed, you know, they 
would lay hands on the bishops, 

508
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,600
which came from the word office,
which is where bishops came 

509
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,120
from, but they would lay hands 
on them and they would, you 

510
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,400
know, they were, you have to put
yourself in the shoes again of 

511
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,720
the early Church. 
And you just saw Jesus Christ 

512
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
die, resurrect, and then ascend 
into heaven. 

513
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,680
And now he has given you the 
authority to become the apostle 

514
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,280
of his church. 
And so you have to consider how 

515
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,320
seriously they took that. 
And so basically it can be 

516
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,000
traced back all the way to 
there. 

517
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,240
It's called Apostolic 
succession. 

518
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,960
So I mean, I think that's just 
amazing, honestly. 

519
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Yeah. 
Now and the the opportunities 

520
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
that we have right now at this 
time or not, I don't feel that 

521
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040
they will always be here for us 
as far as study. 

522
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,160
That's why he says to know your 
Bible, to really study, to get 

523
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,800
in the word because I mean at 
some point, at least from what I

524
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,280
was, especially when I was 
young, like there's going to be 

525
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,320
a time where this is not so 
simple, you know, we won't be 

526
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,480
able to just hop in, just find 
it. 

527
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Like they'll be probably 
banning. 

528
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,640
I don't know, like there's a lot
of weird stuff you could go into

529
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,080
Mandela Effect, which I'm 
totally we've been tripped out 

530
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,800
in the Bible about. 
But I mean, you you never know, 

531
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,320
right? 
We don't know. 

532
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Well, the good thing is the law 
is written on your heart. 

533
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,160
And you know, I would just read 
as much as you can while you can

534
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,920
and be ready to face 
persecution. 

535
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,640
And if you're scared of that, 
then pray for courage, because I

536
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,840
think even the way that people 
react to the tyranny, you know, 

537
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:41,200
we were told to basically face 
the tyranny and persecution with

538
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,320
being kind to the wicked because
that's what truly shows the 

539
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,880
spirit of God when you were kind
in the face of evil. 

540
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,240
There's St. 
Polycarp who was getting burned 

541
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,200
at the stake. 
They came to his house, and he 

542
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,640
was actually a disciple of John 
the Apostle, and he offered them

543
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920
food and tea when they got to 
his house, even though he knew 

544
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,639
exactly why they were there. 
And then he thanked God for 

545
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,159
counting him worthy to be a 
martyr while he was getting 

546
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,840
burned, and the fire would not 
burn him. 

547
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,159
So the soldier had to basically 
stab him. 

548
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,800
And you read stories like this, 
the miracles of this, the 

549
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,840
courage of this. 
And then we look at are modern 

550
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,159
Christianity and people are 
like, well, we're going to get 

551
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,639
raptured. 
So we don't have to worry about 

552
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,239
that. 
Yeah, I think it's funny how 

553
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440
many people are counting on 
that, that's for sure. 

554
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,719
It it seems like a slippery 
slope to base your whole 

555
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,760
everything on to me 'cause first
of all, even if you believe in 

556
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,239
it, not everybody goes. 
You might want to you might want

557
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,679
to think I saw and all that. 
That's how I feel about that 

558
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,600
one. 
I I'm like, I don't know about 

559
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,800
that. 
But I mean it's been like I like

560
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,400
I said it's been a discovery for
me. 

561
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,280
Like there are things that work 
in these other other things you 

562
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,880
were talking about. 
Like when I talked to like New 

563
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,480
York Patriot, he was in the OTO.
He talks about like, yeah, magic

564
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,320
works. 
Yeah, this stuff works. 

565
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,440
But once you start messing with 
intention of other people, like 

566
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,000
even if it's for good, like you 
wanna cure your mom of cancer or

567
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,320
something even that's wholesome,
OK, you're still intervening in 

568
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,720
things you shouldn't. 
You're not. 

569
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,160
God, we're not. 
We don't think like he thinks it

570
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,280
says that, right. 
And and so you know, it's hard 

571
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,400
for us to understand sometimes, 
like, well, why did that have to

572
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040
happen or why did that guy have 
to be bird of the stake or why 

573
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,360
did this have to happen to me or
whatever. 

574
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,280
But at the end of the day, we go
back to that. 

575
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,280
You have to trust that it's 
going to be however it's 

576
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,160
supposed to be. 
You know you're not. 

577
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,240
You're not made to change it, 
really. 

578
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,120
And if you do, what kind of 
consequences are there for that?

579
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,160
You know, I don't know. 
That's kind of frightening for 

580
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,720
me anyway. 
I I wouldn't want to go there. 

581
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,880
I always say if it be thy will, 
even if it's something I really 

582
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,800
care about, like healing or 
people that you care about, you 

583
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,880
just we're not God and we have 
to be careful. 

584
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,040
And so yeah, I definitely feel 
that. 

585
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,400
So what else has changed in your
life since you've been able to 

586
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,360
see and have eyes to see and 
ears to hear with all of this 

587
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,080
fun stuff? 
Everything after I was baptized,

588
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,080
I was. 
I mean, it was horrible. 

589
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:42,400
I was getting visions of, just, 
excuse me, gore and all kinds of

590
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,880
stuff. 
Very high spiritual attacks. 

591
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,680
I had to walk through repentance
from all the things that, you 

592
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,640
know, renounce everything. 
And basically, you know, I used 

593
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,160
to people used to like me and my
memes that I created, all of my 

594
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
followers at that time were new 
age. 

595
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,080
So when I started to expose that
and then expose the patriot 

596
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,760
movement, I mean I gained a lot 
of enemies. 

597
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,800
It was a hectic, hectic 2 years.
Now on this other side where I'm

598
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,360
just like I see I I could have 
handled some things better. 

599
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,560
I've made amends with some of 
the people who I went to war 

600
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:31,960
with that I felt were kind of I 
guess like in you know in in the

601
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,240
way of the the bullet. 
I I'm, I can't think of the the 

602
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,560
phrase. 
Line of fire. 

603
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,800
Yes, thank you. 
I was. 

604
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,280
Like, wait, yeah, I know that 
one, but. 

605
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Yeah. 
Like I felt like they were 

606
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,360
caught in the line of fire but 
not really part of the network. 

607
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,400
So I've had the chance to make 
amends with people. 

608
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,880
I never thought I would be able 
to you know, I came to the 

609
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,200
realization that a lot of the 
suffering was caused by me and 

610
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:04,880
my actions. 
And you know, either way it it 

611
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,440
definitely ruffled a lot of 
feathers. 

612
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,440
So but at at the. 
End you were trying to I mean 

613
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,040
when you have that fire like I 
understand because you might 

614
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,280
like you can black pill someone 
and not mean to like in the 

615
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,680
worst way but but what you're 
saying is true and what you're 

616
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,480
doing is like I'm trying to help
you know in your heart you you 

617
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,400
might be thinking like one way 
and they're just receiving it in

618
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,920
a completely well. 
Do you remember the the prayer 

619
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200
that Flynn prayed like two years
ago? 

620
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,760
Uh huh. 
No. 

621
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:43,240
OK General Flynn did a prayer in
a church that was verbatim the 

622
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,280
prayer from Elizabeth Claire 
prophet who is tied to all of 

623
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,280
that ascended master stuff. 
If you look at our website and 

624
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,440
it was a freeman, it was a 
Masonic prayer. 

625
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,480
And I I knew that it was a 
prayer to Lucifer because I they

626
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,160
he was talking about being 
freeborn. 

627
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,440
And that's the thing that's like
you know we are servants of God,

628
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,560
we are not freeborn. 
We are servants of God. 

629
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Gladly. 
So the that language freeborn. 

630
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,120
They believe Lucifer is going to
come and set them free from the 

631
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,160
evil slave master we call God. 
And so you know, very stealth 

632
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,960
because it's a patriot event so 
but it's verbatim. 

633
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,680
There's a clip where you can see
it every single word verbatim. 

634
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,880
And so he lied, said it was a 
Catholic prayer and that's 

635
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,320
really when all the fun began 
because he was tied to 

636
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,080
everything that all of the 
doctors who have been anti jab, 

637
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,640
this whole Kennedy for president
is his brainchild. 

638
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,320
The political prisoners being in
jail and all. 

639
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,800
If you gave your money to that, 
that went straight in the the 

640
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,240
pockets for them to continue the
operation to psychologically 

641
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,680
manipulate you. 
I mean, I could go on and on. 

642
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Like every single thing that the
right has been cheering on has 

643
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
been the brainchild of General 
Flynn. 

644
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,840
Wow. 
Well, and I think that any time 

645
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,080
we put our faith, like I'm very 
non political, so this is easy 

646
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,480
for me because I was never 
either way. 

647
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,560
I always was like they go to 
dinner after and that's what I 

648
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,160
think. 
Like I feel like they're all in 

649
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,920
this together and that's just 
how it is. 

650
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,600
Like even if you talk to people 
and I mean, granted, did we have

651
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,480
a better life when we had a 
different president? 

652
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Yeah, the gas was better, except
right now. 

653
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,560
But I mean all these little 
things were better. 

654
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Sure, you know, you know, But 
what was really going on? 

655
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,400
No one ever makes it to that 
level. 

656
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,040
No one ever gets to that point. 
No one ever makes that much 

657
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,080
money unless they've done 
something somewhere, somehow, 

658
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,320
right. 
And so it's never just like, oh,

659
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,080
this just happened. 
Yeah, You think that they would 

660
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200
just let that happen. 
And then when you talk to people

661
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,400
like, I'll talk to, like, we 
talked to my in laws the other 

662
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,520
day, and this was so funny 
because she said, well, you 

663
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520
know, we didn't like him, but 
we're we're kind of looking at 

664
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,920
him for the next one. 
And I don't like how he speaks. 

665
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,280
Like he, he's got a dirty mouth,
'cause they're really Mormon. 

666
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,480
And she's like, but, you know, 
it was a better life. 

667
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,920
And this other guy, he's going 
crazy, blah, blah, OK, so I'm 

668
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,440
like sitting there and I'm like,
it doesn't really matter, 'cause

669
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,000
they'll do, it's selected, not 
elected. 

670
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,120
And she's like, what do you 
mean? 

671
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,000
And I was like, well, we just 
feel like there's a lot of 

672
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
control because, you know, 
there's people pulling the 

673
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,800
strings that you'll never 
understand or know their name. 

674
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,600
And she's like, what do you mean
by that? 

675
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,240
And I said, well, OK, if 
somebody goes to jail and 

676
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,680
they're in the mob and you're 
like, oh, yeah, John Gotti went 

677
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,320
to jail. 
And we all know that. 

678
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,840
And we knew he was the mob boss.
No, he wasn't. 

679
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
He wasn't the boss of anything, 
'cause you know what? 

680
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,040
Real gangsters never get their 
names out there. 

681
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,240
Real gangsters don't have a 
name. 

682
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,960
They're not going to tell you 
that they're not. 

683
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560
They're they're gonna lead you 
whichever way they want. 

684
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,320
And money and power goes along 
with this. 

685
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200
So I don't trust anything like 
that ever. 

686
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,880
Like nothing political. 
I'm like one step. 

687
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,400
I'm not an anarchist, but I am 
so close at this point because 

688
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,760
it they've destroyed it. 
But also now that I have eyes to

689
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,880
see, I'm like, well, this whole 
country wasn't founded on 

690
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,120
religious freedom anyways. 
This was founded on Freemasonry.

691
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,440
And if if you look at anything, 
you'll see it now. 

692
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,920
I mean, I see it now. 
I don't know. 

693
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:40,480
Yeah, I mean, I am. 
I'm so far removed from any of 

694
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,400
that. 
Like, I just don't care anymore 

695
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,400
at all. 
So, you know, I fought a long 

696
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:54,600
time for, for what was happening
and the, you know, just the 

697
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,680
propaganda, the information war 
is really what it boils down to.

698
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,560
I feel like I did my time. 
That's how I do. 

699
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:11,040
And if if the United States goes
down, you know, I'm not going to

700
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,200
fight against the judgement of 
God. 

701
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,440
And I'm also not going to worry 
about it because I don't even 

702
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,600
know if I'm going to be here 
tomorrow. 

703
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,760
And I think that, you know, we 
just, we do what we can. 

704
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,200
We do what's right. 
But we don't do what's right in 

705
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,640
our eyes. 
We do what's right by the 

706
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,920
leading of the Holy Spirit and 
of God. 

707
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,680
And it doesn't always line up 
with politics we're having. 

708
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,840
Yeah, and our savior's not gonna
be in that. 

709
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,280
It's so funny to me that people 
truly still believe that. 

710
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,120
And I'm like, you do know that 
That that's not, that's not your

711
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,000
savior. 
That's the This is not gonna be 

712
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,640
what you think it is. 
You know, there's bad parts. 

713
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,840
You could pull any politician 
apart, period. 

714
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,440
Like they've done good things, 
they've done bad things, they've

715
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,680
done good things they've done. 
Like you can go and find any 

716
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480
kind of situation one way or 
another. 

717
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,720
But I'll tell you this, at the 
end of the day, I'm like you. 

718
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,960
Like, why does it really, it 
doesn't really matter because 

719
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,680
they're gonna do what they're 
gonna do, and I'm not a part of 

720
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,160
that beast system. 
Like, that's not my situation, 

721
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,080
right. 
Like I'm over here working for 

722
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,520
God. 
Like I don't whatever I'm led to

723
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,080
do, that's what I'll do. 
And like that's the beast system

724
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,920
to me. 
Like when he says, you know, you

725
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,720
give, you give. 
What's his name? 

726
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Why can't I think of it right 
now? 

727
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,960
I just blanked Rome their money.
Like let's give Caesar what's 

728
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,800
Caesar's, right. 
That's why. 

729
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800
Because we're not we're not 
supposed to be a part of that. 

730
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
We're not Caesar's. 
You know, like. 

731
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,320
Yeah, but he also says just pay.
Like, pay him whatever is out to

732
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
him. 
Like we're not our our. 

733
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Our battle isn't political, it's
spiritual. 

734
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:59,960
We're here to bring people to 
the Kingdom of God. 

735
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Yes, yes. 
So much more important because I

736
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,120
just feel like people get lost 
in that it's one more rabbit 

737
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
hole to get lost down. 
And how many of these are are 

738
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,360
created? 
That's why I say I'm a 

739
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,000
recovering conspiracy theorist. 
I fell for all of it. 

740
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,240
I exposed a lot of it. 
And I I do see the Flynn network

741
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:26,400
as being separate than Trump. 
And I've made a case for that 

742
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,040
for the past three years now. 
So whatever that means. 

743
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680
You know, I I let people come to
their own conclusion. 

744
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,240
I see how people come to each 
conclusion. 

745
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
But I also think sometimes 
people take the easy way out 

746
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,720
because it's not black and white
all the time. 

747
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:53,880
There's a lot of layers of the 
information war that I was very 

748
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,360
much in the trenches of. 
And I saw what upset them and I 

749
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,640
saw what they didn't care about.
And they I saw how they tried to

750
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,200
position themselves as being 
Trump aligned but stabbing him 

751
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,760
in the back the first chance 
they get. 

752
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,280
So I mean, I I personally like, 
I think like the two sides, same

753
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:26,440
coin bit is something that is 
easy to say, but I don't think 

754
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,440
that that's how it is all the 
time, so all right. 

755
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,320
Yeah, And I mean, I don't, like 
I said, I've never delved into, 

756
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,760
you probably know a lot more on 
politics. 

757
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Like my stuff is unfortunately, 
yeah. 

758
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,320
And so I'm. 
I would really. 

759
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,480
I would really prefer not to, 
even you. 

760
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:44,760
Know. 
Yeah. 

761
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,240
Yeah. 
Politically, I just kind of stay

762
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,440
out of things and focus on God 
because I I don't understand it 

763
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,320
right. 
I don't understand enough of it.

764
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,720
I know I have enough on my plate
that I'm exposing already. 

765
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,480
And I feel like that if, if 
that's your situation, like how 

766
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,960
you knew things, then you then 
you're called to say whatever 

767
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,960
you're called to say because 
that was your, your calling, 

768
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,440
right. 
We all have all these different 

769
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,080
callings. 
So I I don't think that we 

770
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,200
should just throw the throw them
all out, 'cause, I mean, 

771
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,400
obviously it was important, I 
mean, but but like I get it, you

772
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,320
can only do so much too. 
But it just brings me back to 

773
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,120
the point of what I was saying 
is like I was so hyper focused 

774
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,960
on all the evil outside of 
myself and it's so much easier 

775
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080
to point the finger at XYZ. 
It's. 

776
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,080
And you know June is a big month
for that during gay pride month 

777
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,800
when people, right, right 
leaning Christians love to point

778
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,200
their pharaceutical finger at 
the LGBTQ community, which is 

779
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080
people who are broken and need 
love and need compassion. 

780
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,600
And my favorite parable is the 
parable of the tax collector and

781
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,320
the Pharisee. 
Where the Pharisee is saying, 

782
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,800
oh, I fast twice a week and I 
tie it all and I pray everyday 

783
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,560
and all of this and thank God 
that I'm not like that tax 

784
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,160
collector over there. 
And then the tax collector is 

785
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,240
like, have mercy on me, I'm a 
wretched Sinner. 

786
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,720
And that's the, that's the 
posture that we should all have 

787
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960
because how are you going to 
point the finger at someone who 

788
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,240
doesn't have Christ and they are
sinning actively? 

789
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,000
I mean, that's what we all were 
before we knew Christ. 

790
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:31,560
So people like to demonize and 
categorize sin to the level of 

791
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,400
their human understanding. 
But in reality, if you call 

792
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400
someone an idiot, you're likened
to a murderer in God's eyes. 

793
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,440
And so sexual sin is sexual sin.
If you're lusting after someone,

794
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,920
if you've cheated on someone, if
you've had sex out of wedlock, 

795
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,480
you are just as perverse as the 
person you're pointing your 

796
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,560
finger at all June. 
Well, and yeah, it can hit home,

797
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,960
'cause like, since I am a 
Christian podcast, sometimes 

798
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,440
people will speak with me and 
not know my background. 

799
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,000
Well, our daughter's gay. 
And so people come out out at 

800
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,080
that and like, come at me with 
certain things and I'm like, 

801
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,880
hey, you know, that's sin is 
sin, right? 

802
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,240
Sin is sin. 
We are all sinners. 

803
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,200
It was all hung on the cross. 
And that didn't mean not hers, 

804
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,920
not yours, not this, not that, 
Only those things, you know, 

805
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
it's it's stupid, it's 
judgmental. 

806
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,840
And then again, what are we 
doing? 

807
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,280
We're sinning again. 
So it's just better to not not 

808
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,560
go there. 
Like Jesus was really, really 

809
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,720
specific about one. 
One thing after everything was 

810
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,960
done was to love each other. 
To love each other, really. 

811
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320
And and it's hard to love people
like you said you, you know, the

812
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,800
guy that let them in and served 
them tea. 

813
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,880
It's hard to love somebody 
that's there to hurt you. 

814
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,280
It's hard to love somebody that 
might be hurting your family. 

815
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,240
It's hard to love somebody 
that's doing whatever. 

816
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,280
But it's there's lessons in it. 
Right. 

817
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,760
Yeah. 
And I'm not. 

818
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,080
I'm not condoning sin at all. 
Because, you know, like I do 

819
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,720
struggle. 
With my own. 

820
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,880
I do struggle with my own sin, 
but you know, I'm actively, 

821
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,400
everyday trying to lessen it 
more and more by the power of 

822
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,880
God, because we just have that 
tendency innate in US and 

823
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,000
repentance and pointing. 
Fingers is yeah, not going to 

824
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,160
help anyone. 
It's real. 

825
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,760
No, no. 
What that does is make everyone 

826
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,280
think that Christians are 
self-righteous and judgmental 

827
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,640
and that's about it. 
So. 

828
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,080
Yeah, we we refuse to do any 
agendas. 

829
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,520
So we don't fly a pride flag for
my daughter, but we don't make a

830
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,880
straight flag for my son. 
Like we just don't. 

831
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:44,080
We're like, OK, you're a grown 
up, We love you. 

832
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,040
Whatever you choose to do in 
your life is your choice. 

833
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,720
But I will never forsake you 
because I love you. 

834
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,240
But we've raised you up the way,
you know, you know, you know 

835
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,000
certain things. 
You're a Christian. 

836
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,880
You've been baptized. 
You've had all this knowledge. 

837
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,360
Now it's up to you. 
At some point, you have to let 

838
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,960
go and just let them deal with 
it and not worry about it 

839
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,520
anymore because what it what is 
that going to do to her? 

840
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,400
What is that going to do to us? 
I mean it's just stupid. 

841
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,120
You know it's it's not. 
I don't think that's how Christ 

842
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,600
would deal with that. 
And so I just, yeah, he who has 

843
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,000
the glass house, right, can 
throw the first stone. 

844
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,640
So I don't, I don't throw those 
anymore. 

845
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Yeah, I try not to. 
It's easy to do. 

846
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,760
It's easy to get caught up in. 
And you know, trust me, last 

847
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,200
June, when I was speaking in 
that same tone, people didn't 

848
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920
like it. 
I was getting accused of being 

849
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,320
like, you know, of Satan and all
these things. 

850
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,160
And I'm like, I'm literally just
saying love them anyways, That's

851
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,680
all I'm saying. 
I'm not saying that you have to 

852
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,640
agree with the agenda or. 
Yeah, And it's it's, it's sad. 

853
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,480
It's really sad because a lot of
these people like, first of all,

854
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,280
we know that there's a social 
engineering aspect of it because

855
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,640
of how it skyrocketed. 
And second of all these people 

856
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,960
who fall prey to something like 
that, they probably have a very 

857
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,960
broken childhood or, you know, 
their sense of worth. 

858
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,640
And so they they probably need 
compassion. 

859
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,720
And you know that that type of 
compassion only comes from God. 

860
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,520
And that's what we're called to 
do, is be that light and show 

861
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:23,600
that like, I like Luke six, I 
think 36 says he's kind even to 

862
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,240
the wicked. 
And that is hard to do for us, 

863
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:32,440
but we can. 
We can do anything with God. 

864
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:39,040
We got to, we got to start 
focusing more on what we can do 

865
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,480
for others and not what they're 
doing or whatever. 

866
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,040
It's really not about that. 
And you will get the same lesson

867
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,080
over and over and over because 
God likes to do things like that

868
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,520
until you get it right. 
Like I had, I had an ex-husband 

869
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,960
and he had a a ex-wife and her 
name was Christina. 

870
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Then my new husband has an 
ex-wife and her name is 

871
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Christine. 
And both women were challenges 

872
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,480
in my life. 
Like a literal, like this was a 

873
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,760
situation because the first one,
her daughter ended up living 

874
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,360
with us. 
I was the mom like full time. 

875
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,640
She was out of state. 
Like this wasn't like a weekend 

876
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,200
thing. 
This was like full time. 

877
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,960
And you know, I blew it kind of.
I wasn't compassionate. 

878
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,960
I didn't understand her 
situation. 

879
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,560
I I I just wasn't. 
I was judgmental and I was rude 

880
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,520
and I lost that relationship 
with that daughter. 

881
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,600
After 14 years, she returned 
where to her mother. 

882
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,440
Why? 
Because kids want their parents 

883
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,000
and it doesn't matter what she 
did, it doesn't matter anymore. 

884
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Like that kid still wants that 
parent. 

885
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,720
It's it's irrelevant. 
And so if I had been a better 

886
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,320
way to handle that, I would 
probably have her in my life. 

887
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,280
And then the same opportunity 
comes around again. 

888
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,600
We have problems with kids and 
you know I still was very 

889
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,920
self-righteous. 
I was like you're bad because 

890
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,160
you did this and you did that 
and I couldn't open my eyes and 

891
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,720
see maybe that's just who she is
or maybe this is how she does it

892
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,680
or maybe it's not bad, maybe 
it's just different the way she 

893
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,400
parents or whatever and maybe 
the kids need that. 

894
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Maybe that's maybe I'm being 
ignorant, right. 

895
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,840
And so when I finally learned, 
my life completely changed. 

896
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,640
And me and her became very good 
friends. 

897
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,440
And and it changed for the kids.
It changed for us. 

898
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,280
Are we still as good of friends 
now? 

899
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,560
No. 
We're we're OK. 

900
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040
But like it's not Buddy, buddy. 
But that's fine. 

901
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,520
Some things are a season in your
life to teach you something. 

902
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,080
So I don't know. 
That's my thing. 

903
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,520
I I don't like relearning, 
relearning, relearning. 

904
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Like I want to figure. 
It out. 

905
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,280
Right. 
It's hard, and it just gets 

906
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,400
harder because it Christianity 
isn't easy. 

907
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,040
Like if If you want an easy 
situation, this probably isn't 

908
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,360
the road to go, you know? 
No, my my friend and I were 

909
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,120
talking about like the different
church names. 

910
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,360
It's always like Grace Hope 
Church or something like that. 

911
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,680
And it's like, why don't they 
ever name it after, you know, 

912
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,680
the other fruit of the Spirit, 
which is long-suffering? 

913
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,560
Like, would you go to a church 
that was a long-suffering 

914
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,880
church? 
Right. 

915
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,320
Long-suffering. 
Possibly a martyr. 

916
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,440
Maybe a martyr later. 
Martyr Church. 

917
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,760
Oh my gosh. 
And I mean, we laugh, but like, 

918
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,320
you know, it's true. 
Like, oh, OK, that sucks. 

919
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,160
It's. 
True people go and they just 

920
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,400
want to feel good. 
I just want my heart. 

921
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,080
I just want my heart broken over
like I just want to be broken 

922
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,040
over my my evil. 
And so I it can change, and so I

923
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,600
can become more like the light 
of Christ and just remove all 

924
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,600
that. 
I I think it's a tactic of the 

925
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,200
enemy to be focused on all the 
outside stuff now, so. 

926
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,800
Yeah, they they want us. 
Well, the busier we are with 

927
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,640
other things that are not really
Christ centered, then that's a 

928
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,360
good thing for the enemy because
what are we, what are we doing? 

929
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,400
We're not doing the Lord's will,
the Lord's work, whatever. 

930
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,280
So like you said, you have to 
really pray about where you're 

931
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,880
being led and what what you're 
supposed to be doing with that 

932
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,080
whole situation. 
So yeah, I think I think that's 

933
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,240
good and and any wise words to 
help people not get down the 

934
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,480
rabbit hole of like the whole 
new age stuff. 

935
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,240
Like it's really saturated, 
especially with the youth. 

936
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080
I see a lot of that now. 
Like symbolism. 

937
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:38,000
Things I mean, it's super subtle
at times. 

938
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,440
I I think personally, you know, 
there's a lot of new age to 

939
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,800
Christian. 
Like I said, hanging on to the 

940
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,080
low hanging fruit. 
But if you look up the the 

941
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,840
people that I mentioned before 
and the origin of it goes all 

942
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:57,680
the way down to the 1800s, you 
can you can literally prove that

943
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,080
they are Luciferians. 
If you look up Helena Blavatsky,

944
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, 
you can It is provable that all 

945
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,240
of this doctrine that we're 
talking about goes back to them 

946
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,360
from the New Age side. 
And then, you know, as far as 

947
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,040
like the Eastern religions, 
Buddhism and Hinduism and things

948
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
like that, you know, people will
say, oh, that's older than 

949
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,280
Christianity. 
It's like you, you, those 

950
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,680
people, first of all, they're 
counting on two, like 2000 years

951
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,000
ago when Jesus Christ walked the
earth. 

952
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,680
But Christianity is older than 
that. 

953
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,720
And second of all, yeah, there 
was always, you know, demons and

954
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,560
things and false gods. 
That's literally in the Bible. 

955
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,600
So there's only one Messiah, 
There's only one true living 

956
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,040
God, that hole in your heart 
that you're looking to fill 

957
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,960
through spirituality or 
manifestation or any of these 

958
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,160
things, that that hole can only 
be filled by God's love, period.

959
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:07,760
And so if you are on the fence 
of that, just do what I did and 

960
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,200
just pray and ask him to reveal 
his son to you. 

961
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,200
And I did that very arrogantly, 
thinking that I was going to be 

962
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,000
proved right. 
And the opposite happened and I 

963
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,680
literally felt like I was blind.
And now I can see, and it's a 

964
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,920
gift and it's the purpose of 
life to find your way back home.

965
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,160
So. 
Absolutely. 

966
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,720
That's it's way more important 
to follow God's plan for you 

967
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,160
because though you may want 
something, though you may think 

968
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,360
you need that. 
We actually are given what we 

969
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,560
need without intervention from 
other ways, right? 

970
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,760
Like we don't have to manifest 
something. 

971
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,000
If it's meant to be, it will. 
It will be like the birds don't 

972
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000
go around saying things are 
going to happen, right? 

973
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,200
Like they just do whatever they 
do, so we don't need to do that.

974
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,840
I'm not saying just sit home and
be lazy or whatever, but I'm 

975
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,600
just saying like if it's meant 
to be, if you're meant to get a 

976
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,400
certain job and you say if it be
God's will, then it will happen 

977
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,680
for you. 
And if it's not, it's probably 

978
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,800
for a really good reason. 
And if you force it, you're 

979
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,680
probably going to have some 
really weird, you know, one 

980
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,480
little thing that you could have
made happen can change a whole 

981
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,680
lot of things. 
And it can be so we don't want 

982
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,440
to be messing with those types 
of things because you never know

983
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,320
what you're going to get. 
And there are people in this 

984
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:40,200
world that are sent to us that 
are literally meant to try and 

985
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,120
change things. 
They're literally meant to try 

986
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,440
and derail you. 
They are, you know, you're an 

987
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,880
assignment to them. 
I mean, it could even be a 

988
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,720
boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, 
wife, whatever. 

989
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,720
And they can derail you for a 
long time. 

990
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,080
And yeah, we just can't. 
We can't fall for that. 

991
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,040
It could even be your kids. 
I mean, you have to really 

992
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,040
evaluate if they're adult 
children. 

993
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,080
Like, what's the influence? 
Where's their place in your 

994
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,400
life? 
Where's your husband at? 

995
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,240
Like, you have to look at all of
it, 'cause I know I've fallen 

996
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,160
into that myself. 
And making my kids my God 

997
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,560
sometimes, and thinking that's 
good, 'cause then you're a good 

998
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,680
mom. 
Any last words for everybody? 

999
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Just thank you for having me on.
You know, if I said anything 

1000
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,560
controversial that upset anyone 
I'm pretty much used to that. 

1001
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:39,840
So but I I'm happy to discuss it
with you and show you how I've 

1002
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,440
reached these conclusions. 
If you don't follow me, you know

1003
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,040
I have basically all the stuff 
that I've talked about I've it's

1004
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,120
on my page. 
I have a lot of good research on

1005
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Telegram, It's searchable. 
I've made a few videos about 

1006
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,480
specific topics. 
So I have a lot of resources to 

1007
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,400
send you if if it's something 
that you want. 

1008
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,960
Now, if you just want to argue 
with me, you know I can do that 

1009
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,280
too. 
But just just keep it 

1010
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,800
respectful. 
Yeah, be ready for it, 'cause 

1011
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,800
if. 
I mean, if you're gonna argue 

1012
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,080
with somebody that has a lot of 
knowledge, you gotta come with 

1013
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,400
the knowledge as well, right? 
If you wanna, if you wanna dish 

1014
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,960
it out, I'm sure she can take 
it. 

1015
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,160
But that's not what she's trying
to do here. 

1016
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,640
Yeah, I'm happy to talk with 
anyone who has different 

1017
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,760
opinions. 
I just don't want to, like, 

1018
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,400
argue, you know, futile 
futility. 

1019
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,200
So. 
To change someone's mind is a 

1020
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,520
lot different than to argue to 
argue, right. 

1021
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,440
Yeah. 
Right. 

1022
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,120
Well, I appreciate you so much. 
Will you let them know where 

1023
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,200
they can find you once again? 
Yeah, best place to find me is 

1024
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,760
just on Instagram. 
It's bleeze, no SIOP. 

1025
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,840
There's no spaces or anything. 
It's BLZ no SIOP. 

1026
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,520
And that's where you can find 
me.