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You're feeling a bit like Alice tumbling down the rabbit hole.
You take the blue pill. The story ends.
You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want.
You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you
how deep the rabbit hole goes. I'm awake.
Are you? Let's go now to our new episode
of The Unfiltered Rise With Me, Heidi Love.
Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Unfiltered Rise.
And today I have another guest with me.
Lala is here, and she's going to tell you a little bit about
herself. Hi Lala.
How you doing tonight? I'm great.
Thanks for having me. It's been a minute since I've
been recording anything, so I look forward to just talking.
Some people might know me from Instagram on Blaze.
No PSYOP and a couple other places that we might mention
later. OK, yeah, mention any plugs you
got and that's awesome. So that people can find you.
Yeah, that'll that'll be perfect.
And then I I originally hit you up, I actually didn't know your
whole story. So this is kind of funny.
And it I think it will go in a good direction, 'cause I'm very,
I'm very unfiltered. That's why it's called
Unfiltered Rise. I don't really need the whole
scripted. It's just like, OK, here it is,
you know, because I think it's more normal.
And I get a lot of slack from like a lot of people on YouTube
are like, oh, that guest interrupts or she asks any
questions or I'm like, we are supposed to be having a
conversation, me and me and you. So it's weird when people just
are like, grill or just let the other person talk.
I don't know. That's me.
I like it. Yeah, like a combo, you know?
I know your. Guest So I'm just I'm going with
the flow, so. Right.
And I originally saw you because you were talking about Christmas
and we're getting close to Christmas.
And I love Christmas. And I know there's a lot of
Pagan stuff around Christmas, but I know there are some other
things about Christmas itself that are still Christian.
Because you had presented some ideas about the timeline, and I
saw people jumping all over you about it.
I read like all these 140 comments or something that were
down below and you're like, did you even read anything?
And I was like, so stupid. Why did they not read like, you
put it in slides? You were very, you were like,
follow the little arrow. And I don't think very many
people made it through the arrows like.
No, they the reason why is because, you know, we talked a
little bit about my testimony. I'm very short, came out of the
new age. I went full-fledged like
exposing the new age, became a Christian, started to study the
biblical feast and in Leviticus 23, really taking my time,
starting traditions because I came out of a Pagan religion and
so I did not want to start any traditions with Pagan roots in
them. And so the past two years have
really been me, prayerfully considering what I introduced to
my family and studying the holy feast, participating in them in
a way that is Christian, not Jewish, and trying to glean as
much wisdom from God. Which really led me to where I'm
at now, which is for this sake of discussion.
I mean, I do not believe that celebrating Christmas is Pagan,
especially if you are using it as the birth of the Messiah,
because I've been doing a lot of studying on very early church
history. And the the slides you're
talking about, one of them being Hippolytus of Rome.
In two in 8200, he wrote a dissertation basically saying
why he believed that the Messiah was conceived on the Passover
and born on December 25th. So my argument is not to say
that he was right or wrong. My argument is to say that
there's evidence of Christian roots.
And so someone might say then Oh yeah, well it Christianity was
infiltrated even back then. And yeah, they it certainly was.
But they say that before they go and read anything that this
person wrote. Hippolytus of Rome wrote a book
series called The Refutation of All Heresies.
And this is before the Bible was canonized.
And so we are lucky to live in a time where we can cross
reference what he says against scripture and how much more
amazing and evident that he was filled with the Holy Spirit.
If his works reflect that the same thing the scriptures say
are are aligned with the Scripture.
And so I think that people just give a lot of credit to the
devil. Right.
They want to well and the devil is here to still kill and
destroy anything that we have. He wants to you know make it a
problem. And I'm not saying there's not
there is Pagan holidays there is you know we're we're right near
the winter solstice. There's jewel there's
Saturnalia, there's all these things.
But it doesn't have to mean it's all the same thing and why and
and your point to your point like one of the points you had
which was great was this had actually predated them making
Saturnalia at least I'm not sure on you'll but because the
Christians were kind of overtaking is what I what I kind
of read from your timeline a lot of people.
Associate Constantine with implementing a lot of Pagan
holidays into Christianity. This was before Constantine
ruled. There was also another story of
20,000 martyrs of Nicodemia that they refused to renounce their
faith under even the threat of torture.
And the whole church was burned. All of them died.
This was on a Christmas service. So I think people are I, I think
you really to put yourself in the position of a martyr where
they instead of renouncing Christ, said kill me.
So if you are are questioning whether this person, you know
believed or had faith in in the Messiah, I mean, would you be
willing to say that? Would you be willing to martyr
your life for your faith? And so they were.
They were in the church on Christmas during this time.
And to your point, there was, there was the Saturnalia, but it
was during a completely different time.
It was the week before and I mean it's just it's not factual
to say that this has been replaced.
You people do say the soul Invictus, the celebration of his
birth is on December 25th, which was counterfeited based from the
early church history and the evidence that they were that
they were writing about so. And then there was some proof in
there about John the Baptist and his birth and their calculations
and all that. And I know, I mean, I know we
weren't there, but like, to your point, this is an amazing time.
We can get on here and study these things.
There's books, there's the Internet, there's a million
things. But yet, how many people make it
past the first slide? Like you even said?
Like, did you even look at the whole presentation?
And I'm like, gosh, people like, we cannot be so fast with
anything. I don't care if it's Christmas.
I don't care what it is. You need to put some research
into it. If you really care about this
enough to argue it to the death, like, these people won't get on
here and argue it. I mean, if you don't care, like,
don't go study it. That's awesome.
Move on with your life. But if you're going to comment,
like, make sure you know what you're talking about.
That's mine. And to be honest with you, like
people come at me like I just don't want to let go of
Christmas. Like I love Christmas, that I
just don't want to let go. It was always my least favorite
holiday. Like, I hated, I hated the
commercialism of it. I never grew up thinking Santa
was real. I told my child Santa is a a
character. It's not real.
I don't lie to her about that. I I tell her God gives us
everything that we have and so I'm not that person who is like
obsessed with Christmas. I just don't want to attribute
things to Satan that are good. I mean, I don't see how teaching
your your children about the Messiah and the birth of Christ
is bad. I do think it's bad to lie to
your child about Santa, which takes the glory away from God.
That is my opinion. And then on top of that, you can
demonize anything. Like of course you see Santa,
but he is based on like Saint Nick.
But then people say no, he's based on Satan.
But then we bring in Tammuz and that whole story, like with that
stuff, like you can turn like the tree was this.
No, the tree was this. You know, I mean, you can
literally go down this rabbit hole.
This is something we're never going to flush out.
And and then here and now. So what I want to do with it is
present, because I'm going to be doing a different one on Saturn
Elliot later, but it's getting close Christmas.
Like, not necessarily the commercialism of it, but like
the family time, the decor I love putting up with my kids.
Like all these things. And am I hanging my tree full of
testicles? No, because that's not my
intention, right? We have to go back to intention,
and people are so lost on intention.
And I'm like, OK, here's the thing.
If you talk to an occultist, a true occultist will tell you,
you will have no power without intention, right?
Because, I mean, it's all about intention.
So if my intention is about Jesus, then what does that mean?
You know? And so.
And there's different symbols, like Christianity has a flip
side of that, right? So we have to.
I guess my whole point is like, let's not just throw the baby
out with the bathwater, cuz I did that before.
But I like you came out of a very, I mean, I was basically in
a cold. I mean I was a Mormon for 30-4
years and I'm I'm like, okay after I got out.
Like what do you do? You know, you get into this
weird, like you study. And then I started learning
about like, oh, well, Easter's pretty Pagan.
Oh, this is Pagan, that's Pagan, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. And and the more you learn
you're like, man, I'm just gonna be miserable, I guess, because
this is all, like, a lot of stuff.
I mean, everything seemed dark, you know?
And I'm not saying that it's not like the world's a dark place.
Obviously, we know this is Satan's playground.
But yeah, but I mean, that's so I think that's common when you
come out of, you know, like for you it was Mormonism.
For me, it was New Age, you realize, wow, I was so deceived
and wow, Jesus is king. Jesus is real.
And what does this mean? And you're immediately
infatuated with the darkness because now you see it and you
begin to, at least for me. And I think a lot of people who
are in this corner of the Internet expose it to your
detriment sometimes almost like I think that I that's why I call
myself a a recovering conspiracy theorist.
Because two years ago when all of this stuff started to take
hold of people's minds and lives, it really was hard to
discern what was true and what was not.
And over the past few years, I've a big part of my story was
exposing the right from with it, like from within, from being
deceived by them. Because when I came out of the
New Age, I saw the patriot movement in the same light they
were, the exact same they were. When I'm reading the Bible and
it's telling me, you know, you will suffer persecution, you
will suffer all of these things. And then I look to the Christian
right and they're like, we deserve this and that and it's
like God is going to God told you you guys are going to suffer
and everyone's going to hate you.
And like, this could be judgment because so I I just felt really
disgusted by everything that was around me.
Now I'm at a point where I've let so much of that go, and I
just see that the biggest thing that you can do as a Christian
is focus on the evil within yourself rather than pointing
the finger outwards at everyone else's evil, because we're all
wretched sinners. And so that's where I'm at right
now. We all fall short of the glory
every day. It doesn't matter what your sin
is, It doesn't matter you know what it is at all.
And with groups, I think it's really easy to find yourself.
You mentioned the patriot movement.
Like, then what are you pledging?
You know, God says make no oath, right, man.
Like, we are supposed to do these things.
Like, even though we can be patriotic in our hearts, Like,
at what point does it become so much symbolism that now you have
another God, Right. And an idol for me.
For me it was. Yeah.
And so that's where I'm like always trying to balance things
because I like, you don't want to go through that again, like I
already did that, right? Speaking of idols, Jeremiah 10
is not about Christmas trees. I don't know who needs to hear
this but stop making memes with beautiful Christmas trees and
then posting Jeremiah 10 under it.
It's literally about cutting down a tree and carving an idol.
Because if you just you do a quick Google search and see that
what the idols used to look like, they would carve the false
gods out of it and then they would adorn them with gold like
the golden calf. So stop using Jeremiah 10 to
twist scripture. You were literally twisting
scripture to go with the Christmases Pagan narrative.
That is not what it's about, no matter how neat needs you think
about it. Right.
And even the stories that they say, OK, go to the story of
Tammuz and she gets pregnant by the Christmas tree.
OK, how do you know that was the real story?
Like, what do we know about this is folklore that was passed on
by mouth? Like, how do we know that wasn't
changed? How do we know it wasn't a SIOP?
How do we know it wasn't back then?
Conspiracy theory. Like, how do we know we weren't
there, You know? So I don't.
You never know what comes first, right?
The chicken or the egg? Yeah.
I mean, that's how I feel on those ones, 'cause it.
It just feels like, I don't know.
It just feels like they try to reach, you know, so hard, but.
Yeah, and there there was a story I was reading about a St.
who was cutting down an idol and an Evergreen tree propped up out
of after he destroyed it. And that was part of it.
I mean, for me, like I said, I don't really like.
I like Christmas now because it means something to me because I
get to share the story of the birth of the Messiah with my
family and but as far as like the decorations and all that,
like they're nice, like, but when people accuse others of
idolizing them, I mean that's really silly to me and I'm sure
there are people out there who potentially might, but I don't.
I think that people are really taking that word pretty far when
they accused someone of that. And then it takes the joy out of
like almost everything. I mean it all goes back again to
intention like like I said and and then do you get to like the
nitty gritty of like the line? Oh well, I didn't go chop this
tree down and it's fake and it's plastic so I'm good.
But like people are literally writing the line up like Oh
well, I'm going to make sure I don't hang ball shaped
ornaments, I'll hang something else and I'm like, do you really
need to take it that part? Like, I mean if you want to,
great, but like also do you need to?
Like, just follow your convictions and stop pointing
the finger at others. That is the best advice for
anything in my opinion. But as far as, you know,
intention, you know playing the other side of that, like there
are times when people can have the best intentions and still be
I I think God gives grace to those who are deceived even in
the Christian, even in Christianity like because what
I'm talking about is, you know like a lot of these
denominations that our really new age.
And I know that you had someone wanting to talk a little bit
about that. So I don't know if you want me
to expand. I think.
I think a lot of people hear that term and don't even know
what it means. I think a lot of people are lost
in it because they're like, oh, that's not that bad because it's
Christian, you know? And so I think it gets like
enveloped into, like, it's fine, totally fine.
So. OK, so for me, I was deceived by
New Age ideologies. For 15 years I had books on my
shelf about Buddhism, Hinduism, different types of
pseudoscience, So like quantum physics and things like that.
So New Age is essentially A modge podge of all of these
types of interest today in the conspiracy realm.
You'll see accounts talking about the 5D ascension, 5D
shift, 5D consciousness, all of that type of language, divine,
feminine and things like that. That's all part of it.
Now I see a lot of new age to Christian type of accounts that
want to like grab low hanging fruit like yoga and astrology
and things like that. Which, yeah, I mean.
They can open doors, but it's baffling to me because those
same people are holding hands with that same patriotic,
Christian, right, new age spirit that I'm talking about.
And another aspect of it is these deliverance ministries
that are popping up. That's a huge part of the, I
believe is sorcery in the church and just like anything tied to
Bethel or things like that. So when I became a Christian and
I looked around and I was like, whoa, it's everywhere here too.
And, you know, I'm pointing it out to Christian, like lifelong
Christians, and they can't see it because they don't know that
spirit were for me. I was so intimate with that
spirit for 15 years that I knew every single lie and tactic
because I fell for every single lie and tactic and it's.
The devil you know, right? Yeah, right.
The devil you know versus the devil you don't seems actually
gonna catch it. Yeah, 'cause you knew.
And it's hard for people to let go, like, and I I hear a lot now
about Christians even doing some things like manifestation.
I'm like, you know that that's really even the word alone like
this can lead back into witchcraft real quick.
Manifestation is essentially you trying to subvert God's will.
That's what you're doing. So you're doing magic to subvert
God's will. True Christianity is submission
to God, and someone might say in the new age because it's very
selfish, It's a selfish religion.
You're worshipping self, someone might say.
Why would I bow down to a God who does evil things or allows
evil things to happen and all these things Well, The thing is,
is like people who follow God know God is good.
God is love. God gives free will and choice
to the people who do bad. But you are submitting, knowing
that he is a good father who loves you and has your best
interests and has his ways are higher than our ways.
And there's a lot of programming in the new Age that Jesus is
just one way to God, that he's just in one of the lies Ascended
Master, which stems all the way back to Aleister Crowley.
Helena Blavatsky and what's the other woman's name?
I can't believe I forgot it. That's how long it's been since
I've been focusing on this stuff.
But she but the one. I'm Marjorie.
Not Marjorie Cameron. No.
Alice Bailey. Alice Bailey is on the United
Nations website. And so it all like New Age, if
you believe in any of that. And then you're sitting here
talking about fighting globalism, you're literally part
of it. Like they've they've deceived
you into buying into their religion.
And these agendas go so far, and they're so insidious most of the
time. Now, lately, they've been pretty
brazen. I've been actually really
surprised about some of the stuff they've just slapped out
there now. But it used to be more of this
slow boiling pot of the frog, you know?
And it's like, oh, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine.
But at some point you turn around and go, whoa, what was I
like, I know it was like that for me with Mormonism.
Like I was like, oh, that's fine, This is great.
Now I'm doing Freemason weirdo stuff, right?
And I have no weird Freemason underwear.
Like what? And so at some level you.
But people even say to me, like, you seem really smart and you
study things like, blah, blah. But how did that happen to you?
Like that seems so completely crazy.
And I'm like, I know, but when you're doing it, you don't.
I don't think you realize, right, because you're in it.
And if your family's in it, even more so.
And if you live like saturated in it, like in a church, in
whatever, like a movement, whatever it is you, you just
wake up one day and everything is about that.
And how do you leave, right? Yeah, yeah, it's hard.
So how did you come to the knowledge that you were being
deceived finally? Well, it was in 20.
It was after 2020, so it was in 2021.
But it was having to do with all of the COVID things.
I just saw the blatant propaganda and I was like
watching everyone around me, you know, not be able to see it.
And it was so bizarre as so many people remember.
So I remember just thinking like why?
Why can I see through this? And I heard grace and as a non
Christian you don't really understand what that is.
But it triggered me to pray and I prayed for God to use me for
his will in the spiritual war, even though at that point in
time I was completely in unbelief of Jesus Christ, like
blaspheming him, you know, blaspheming the Bible, making
memes about things like that. So I was so far away from Christ
when I prayed that prayer and I encountered the Holy Spirit of I
think it was the next week after I prayed that.
And one thing I always think about is that prayer was
postured in submission to His will, which is crazy.
I didn't know what that meant. You just were like, OK, I'm here
for it. So the rest is history.
I've been, I've been going to like a not a Protestant, non
denominational church for the past two years and finding
issues with that, mainly, you know with the war in the Middle
East and everything. My questions about scripture and
what modern church believed we're we're not lining up.
I'll just throw a couple things out here for your listeners to
research a little bit more. Feel free to contact me.
The 70s, seventy weeks of Daniel have been fulfilled.
The Rapture is a false doctrine. It's a heresy, and it's causing
a lot of confusion when you don't understand the
chronological events of Scripture, if you don't
understand the northern and southern Kingdom splitting and
what occurred, what they were taken captive and all of that.
So that is what basically led me to study church history, and now
I'm studying Orthodox Christianity.
So that's where it's led me to this point.
Right. Yeah.
I think. I think we have to remember that
God is everywhere in us and we have to connect with him
regardless of where or how. That For me, I have not been
able. I mean, I live in Utah where
90%, yeah, 80% are Mormon. I'm, I've not found a church
home. I just delved into the Bible and
I knew that his word was good enough for me for now.
Not that I'm against, I'm not against going to a church or
doing that. But I am very careful about the
Bible because we have to remember where the splits came
from and why. And the Council of Nicaea had
nothing to do with God, so there was I I mean, I just think that,
you know, you have to, you have to look at the whole picture.
I'm one that looks at the the picture even before, because I
don't think certain things should have been taken out, you
know, and I will go to apocryphal books especially for
study. Well, I don't know if I
necessarily agree with the Council of Nicaea not having
anything to do with God, but I will say that the Protestant
Reformation is where the books were taken out, Martin Luther
and all of that. So yeah, I do.
Personally, I was very careful about reading the Apocrypha
books for the past two years. But now that I'm learned that
the oldest Bibles do have those books in it, and I've been
reading them, trying, you know, seeing how they stack up.
But I just was careful, 'cause I wanted to read the Scriptures
first. That way I could have something,
some frame of reference. But the the thing about the
Protestant churches that was really reminiscent of New Age is
it was like a build your own religion.
Like build your own Jesus. Believe whatever you want, but
interpret, interpret the scriptures however you want.
And everyone was just OK with it.
And when I started to learn about, like, the infiltration of
the seminary schools through the Schofield Bible and all of that,
and that's where a lot of this deception came from, I was like,
I was very judgmental and harsh against the Catholic Church
because I deemed them heretical. But then I'm looking over, we're
at the church I go to and I'm like, but they believe in all of
this, these heresies. And I'm like what level of
heresy like am I willing to? Accept, right, so that you can
still be at a church home. You know, it's hard because the
more I think the more you do study, the more you almost
realize, like it's it is a personal journey.
Like, and and I don't know that anybody can fully, like, you can
get together with people and you can talk about it and all that
stuff, but like, ultimately it's going to be you and God, right?
Like, you've got to figure it out.
You've got to put the time in. It's not going to be handed to
you. I still like sermons.
I still like people like it's hard and kids need it.
I mean, my daughter's always like, oh, I want to go, you
know, so that makes it hard, You know, I don't know how you feel
that way, but. Yeah, I mean I I think it's very
important to be a part of a church body.
Personally, like I, I in Hebrews it says do not forsake assembly.
So I and and you know scripture always says bear with one
another. I think that a lot of people
abandoned their church because of XYZ, and that's part of
walking in faith is not agreeing with every single person, not
even liking them, and still being kind and being charitable
for me, I've I have made the decision to convert to
Orthodoxy. So that's a very recent thing
for me. But after all of everything that
I've studied and doctrine, true doctrine is really important to
me. That's where I'm being LED right
now, so. I have heard many arguments for
the Orthodox Church as far as being almost the most correct,
Canon wise, different things like that.
So I I could see why 'cause I even was started studying down
that way, like Jay Dyer and different people listening and
I'm like, OK, what is what is this about?
You know? And I'm not studied enough in it
to even know. But I do know that they always
argue like, Nope, this is the only true church you know, and
they're very serious about it. They, the apostles in the book
of Acts handed, you know, they would lay hands on the bishops,
which came from the word office, which is where bishops came
from, but they would lay hands on them and they would, you
know, they were, you have to put yourself in the shoes again of
the early Church. And you just saw Jesus Christ
die, resurrect, and then ascend into heaven.
And now he has given you the authority to become the apostle
of his church. And so you have to consider how
seriously they took that. And so basically it can be
traced back all the way to there.
It's called Apostolic succession.
So I mean, I think that's just amazing, honestly.
Yeah. Now and the the opportunities
that we have right now at this time or not, I don't feel that
they will always be here for us as far as study.
That's why he says to know your Bible, to really study, to get
in the word because I mean at some point, at least from what I
was, especially when I was young, like there's going to be
a time where this is not so simple, you know, we won't be
able to just hop in, just find it.
Like they'll be probably banning.
I don't know, like there's a lot of weird stuff you could go into
Mandela Effect, which I'm totally we've been tripped out
in the Bible about. But I mean, you you never know,
right? We don't know.
Well, the good thing is the law is written on your heart.
And you know, I would just read as much as you can while you can
and be ready to face persecution.
And if you're scared of that, then pray for courage, because I
think even the way that people react to the tyranny, you know,
we were told to basically face the tyranny and persecution with
being kind to the wicked because that's what truly shows the
spirit of God when you were kind in the face of evil.
There's St. Polycarp who was getting burned
at the stake. They came to his house, and he
was actually a disciple of John the Apostle, and he offered them
food and tea when they got to his house, even though he knew
exactly why they were there. And then he thanked God for
counting him worthy to be a martyr while he was getting
burned, and the fire would not burn him.
So the soldier had to basically stab him.
And you read stories like this, the miracles of this, the
courage of this. And then we look at are modern
Christianity and people are like, well, we're going to get
raptured. So we don't have to worry about
that. Yeah, I think it's funny how
many people are counting on that, that's for sure.
It it seems like a slippery slope to base your whole
everything on to me 'cause first of all, even if you believe in
it, not everybody goes. You might want to you might want
to think I saw and all that. That's how I feel about that
one. I I'm like, I don't know about
that. But I mean it's been like I like
I said it's been a discovery for me.
Like there are things that work in these other other things you
were talking about. Like when I talked to like New
York Patriot, he was in the OTO. He talks about like, yeah, magic
works. Yeah, this stuff works.
But once you start messing with intention of other people, like
even if it's for good, like you wanna cure your mom of cancer or
something even that's wholesome, OK, you're still intervening in
things you shouldn't. You're not.
God, we're not. We don't think like he thinks it
says that, right. And and so you know, it's hard
for us to understand sometimes, like, well, why did that have to
happen or why did that guy have to be bird of the stake or why
did this have to happen to me or whatever.
But at the end of the day, we go back to that.
You have to trust that it's going to be however it's
supposed to be. You know you're not.
You're not made to change it, really.
And if you do, what kind of consequences are there for that?
You know, I don't know. That's kind of frightening for
me anyway. I I wouldn't want to go there.
I always say if it be thy will, even if it's something I really
care about, like healing or people that you care about, you
just we're not God and we have to be careful.
And so yeah, I definitely feel that.
So what else has changed in your life since you've been able to
see and have eyes to see and ears to hear with all of this
fun stuff? Everything after I was baptized,
I was. I mean, it was horrible.
I was getting visions of, just, excuse me, gore and all kinds of
stuff. Very high spiritual attacks.
I had to walk through repentance from all the things that, you
know, renounce everything. And basically, you know, I used
to people used to like me and my memes that I created, all of my
followers at that time were new age.
So when I started to expose that and then expose the patriot
movement, I mean I gained a lot of enemies.
It was a hectic, hectic 2 years. Now on this other side where I'm
just like I see I I could have handled some things better.
I've made amends with some of the people who I went to war
with that I felt were kind of I guess like in you know in in the
way of the the bullet. I I'm, I can't think of the the
phrase. Line of fire.
Yes, thank you. I was.
Like, wait, yeah, I know that one, but.
Yeah. Like I felt like they were
caught in the line of fire but not really part of the network.
So I've had the chance to make amends with people.
I never thought I would be able to you know, I came to the
realization that a lot of the suffering was caused by me and
my actions. And you know, either way it it
definitely ruffled a lot of feathers.
So but at at the. End you were trying to I mean
when you have that fire like I understand because you might
like you can black pill someone and not mean to like in the
worst way but but what you're saying is true and what you're
doing is like I'm trying to help you know in your heart you you
might be thinking like one way and they're just receiving it in
a completely well. Do you remember the the prayer
that Flynn prayed like two years ago?
Uh huh. No.
OK General Flynn did a prayer in a church that was verbatim the
prayer from Elizabeth Claire prophet who is tied to all of
that ascended master stuff. If you look at our website and
it was a freeman, it was a Masonic prayer.
And I I knew that it was a prayer to Lucifer because I they
he was talking about being freeborn.
And that's the thing that's like you know we are servants of God,
we are not freeborn. We are servants of God.
Gladly. So the that language freeborn.
They believe Lucifer is going to come and set them free from the
evil slave master we call God. And so you know, very stealth
because it's a patriot event so but it's verbatim.
There's a clip where you can see it every single word verbatim.
And so he lied, said it was a Catholic prayer and that's
really when all the fun began because he was tied to
everything that all of the doctors who have been anti jab,
this whole Kennedy for president is his brainchild.
The political prisoners being in jail and all.
If you gave your money to that, that went straight in the the
pockets for them to continue the operation to psychologically
manipulate you. I mean, I could go on and on.
Like every single thing that the right has been cheering on has
been the brainchild of General Flynn.
Wow. Well, and I think that any time
we put our faith, like I'm very non political, so this is easy
for me because I was never either way.
I always was like they go to dinner after and that's what I
think. Like I feel like they're all in
this together and that's just how it is.
Like even if you talk to people and I mean, granted, did we have
a better life when we had a different president?
Yeah, the gas was better, except right now.
But I mean all these little things were better.
Sure, you know, you know, But what was really going on?
No one ever makes it to that level.
No one ever gets to that point. No one ever makes that much
money unless they've done something somewhere, somehow,
right. And so it's never just like, oh,
this just happened. Yeah, You think that they would
just let that happen. And then when you talk to people
like, I'll talk to, like, we talked to my in laws the other
day, and this was so funny because she said, well, you
know, we didn't like him, but we're we're kind of looking at
him for the next one. And I don't like how he speaks.
Like he, he's got a dirty mouth, 'cause they're really Mormon.
And she's like, but, you know, it was a better life.
And this other guy, he's going crazy, blah, blah, OK, so I'm
like sitting there and I'm like, it doesn't really matter, 'cause
they'll do, it's selected, not elected.
And she's like, what do you mean?
And I was like, well, we just feel like there's a lot of
control because, you know, there's people pulling the
strings that you'll never understand or know their name.
And she's like, what do you mean by that?
And I said, well, OK, if somebody goes to jail and
they're in the mob and you're like, oh, yeah, John Gotti went
to jail. And we all know that.
And we knew he was the mob boss. No, he wasn't.
He wasn't the boss of anything, 'cause you know what?
Real gangsters never get their names out there.
Real gangsters don't have a name.
They're not going to tell you that they're not.
They're they're gonna lead you whichever way they want.
And money and power goes along with this.
So I don't trust anything like that ever.
Like nothing political. I'm like one step.
I'm not an anarchist, but I am so close at this point because
it they've destroyed it. But also now that I have eyes to
see, I'm like, well, this whole country wasn't founded on
religious freedom anyways. This was founded on Freemasonry.
And if if you look at anything, you'll see it now.
I mean, I see it now. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I am. I'm so far removed from any of
that. Like, I just don't care anymore
at all. So, you know, I fought a long
time for, for what was happening and the, you know, just the
propaganda, the information war is really what it boils down to.
I feel like I did my time. That's how I do.
And if if the United States goes down, you know, I'm not going to
fight against the judgement of God.
And I'm also not going to worry about it because I don't even
know if I'm going to be here tomorrow.
And I think that, you know, we just, we do what we can.
We do what's right. But we don't do what's right in
our eyes. We do what's right by the
leading of the Holy Spirit and of God.
And it doesn't always line up with politics we're having.
Yeah, and our savior's not gonna be in that.
It's so funny to me that people truly still believe that.
And I'm like, you do know that That that's not, that's not your
savior. That's the This is not gonna be
what you think it is. You know, there's bad parts.
You could pull any politician apart, period.
Like they've done good things, they've done bad things, they've
done good things they've done. Like you can go and find any
kind of situation one way or another.
But I'll tell you this, at the end of the day, I'm like you.
Like, why does it really, it doesn't really matter because
they're gonna do what they're gonna do, and I'm not a part of
that beast system. Like, that's not my situation,
right. Like I'm over here working for
God. Like I don't whatever I'm led to
do, that's what I'll do. And like that's the beast system
to me. Like when he says, you know, you
give, you give. What's his name?
Why can't I think of it right now?
I just blanked Rome their money. Like let's give Caesar what's
Caesar's, right. That's why.
Because we're not we're not supposed to be a part of that.
We're not Caesar's. You know, like.
Yeah, but he also says just pay. Like, pay him whatever is out to
him. Like we're not our our.
Our battle isn't political, it's spiritual.
We're here to bring people to the Kingdom of God.
Yes, yes. So much more important because I
just feel like people get lost in that it's one more rabbit
hole to get lost down. And how many of these are are
created? That's why I say I'm a
recovering conspiracy theorist. I fell for all of it.
I exposed a lot of it. And I I do see the Flynn network
as being separate than Trump. And I've made a case for that
for the past three years now. So whatever that means.
You know, I I let people come to their own conclusion.
I see how people come to each conclusion.
But I also think sometimes people take the easy way out
because it's not black and white all the time.
There's a lot of layers of the information war that I was very
much in the trenches of. And I saw what upset them and I
saw what they didn't care about. And they I saw how they tried to
position themselves as being Trump aligned but stabbing him
in the back the first chance they get.
So I mean, I I personally like, I think like the two sides, same
coin bit is something that is easy to say, but I don't think
that that's how it is all the time, so all right.
Yeah, And I mean, I don't, like I said, I've never delved into,
you probably know a lot more on politics.
Like my stuff is unfortunately, yeah.
And so I'm. I would really.
I would really prefer not to, even you.
Know. Yeah.
Politically, I just kind of stay
out of things and focus on God because I I don't understand it
right. I don't understand enough of it.
I know I have enough on my plate that I'm exposing already.
And I feel like that if, if that's your situation, like how
you knew things, then you then you're called to say whatever
you're called to say because that was your, your calling,
right. We all have all these different
callings. So I I don't think that we
should just throw the throw them all out, 'cause, I mean,
obviously it was important, I mean, but but like I get it, you
can only do so much too. But it just brings me back to
the point of what I was saying is like I was so hyper focused
on all the evil outside of myself and it's so much easier
to point the finger at XYZ. It's.
And you know June is a big month for that during gay pride month
when people, right, right leaning Christians love to point
their pharaceutical finger at the LGBTQ community, which is
people who are broken and need love and need compassion.
And my favorite parable is the parable of the tax collector and
the Pharisee. Where the Pharisee is saying,
oh, I fast twice a week and I tie it all and I pray everyday
and all of this and thank God that I'm not like that tax
collector over there. And then the tax collector is
like, have mercy on me, I'm a wretched Sinner.
And that's the, that's the posture that we should all have
because how are you going to point the finger at someone who
doesn't have Christ and they are sinning actively?
I mean, that's what we all were before we knew Christ.
So people like to demonize and categorize sin to the level of
their human understanding. But in reality, if you call
someone an idiot, you're likened to a murderer in God's eyes.
And so sexual sin is sexual sin. If you're lusting after someone,
if you've cheated on someone, if you've had sex out of wedlock,
you are just as perverse as the person you're pointing your
finger at all June. Well, and yeah, it can hit home,
'cause like, since I am a Christian podcast, sometimes
people will speak with me and not know my background.
Well, our daughter's gay. And so people come out out at
that and like, come at me with certain things and I'm like,
hey, you know, that's sin is sin, right?
Sin is sin. We are all sinners.
It was all hung on the cross. And that didn't mean not hers,
not yours, not this, not that, Only those things, you know,
it's it's stupid, it's judgmental.
And then again, what are we doing?
We're sinning again. So it's just better to not not
go there. Like Jesus was really, really
specific about one. One thing after everything was
done was to love each other. To love each other, really.
And and it's hard to love people like you said you, you know, the
guy that let them in and served them tea.
It's hard to love somebody that's there to hurt you.
It's hard to love somebody that might be hurting your family.
It's hard to love somebody that's doing whatever.
But it's there's lessons in it. Right.
Yeah. And I'm not.
I'm not condoning sin at all. Because, you know, like I do
struggle. With my own.
I do struggle with my own sin, but you know, I'm actively,
everyday trying to lessen it more and more by the power of
God, because we just have that tendency innate in US and
repentance and pointing. Fingers is yeah, not going to
help anyone. It's real.
No, no. What that does is make everyone
think that Christians are self-righteous and judgmental
and that's about it. So.
Yeah, we we refuse to do any agendas.
So we don't fly a pride flag for my daughter, but we don't make a
straight flag for my son. Like we just don't.
We're like, OK, you're a grown up, We love you.
Whatever you choose to do in your life is your choice.
But I will never forsake you because I love you.
But we've raised you up the way, you know, you know, you know
certain things. You're a Christian.
You've been baptized. You've had all this knowledge.
Now it's up to you. At some point, you have to let
go and just let them deal with it and not worry about it
anymore because what it what is that going to do to her?
What is that going to do to us? I mean it's just stupid.
You know it's it's not. I don't think that's how Christ
would deal with that. And so I just, yeah, he who has
the glass house, right, can throw the first stone.
So I don't, I don't throw those anymore.
Yeah, I try not to. It's easy to do.
It's easy to get caught up in. And you know, trust me, last
June, when I was speaking in that same tone, people didn't
like it. I was getting accused of being
like, you know, of Satan and all these things.
And I'm like, I'm literally just saying love them anyways, That's
all I'm saying. I'm not saying that you have to
agree with the agenda or. Yeah, And it's it's, it's sad.
It's really sad because a lot of these people like, first of all,
we know that there's a social engineering aspect of it because
of how it skyrocketed. And second of all these people
who fall prey to something like that, they probably have a very
broken childhood or, you know, their sense of worth.
And so they they probably need compassion.
And you know that that type of compassion only comes from God.
And that's what we're called to do, is be that light and show
that like, I like Luke six, I think 36 says he's kind even to
the wicked. And that is hard to do for us,
but we can. We can do anything with God.
We got to, we got to start focusing more on what we can do
for others and not what they're doing or whatever.
It's really not about that. And you will get the same lesson
over and over and over because God likes to do things like that
until you get it right. Like I had, I had an ex-husband
and he had a a ex-wife and her name was Christina.
Then my new husband has an ex-wife and her name is
Christine. And both women were challenges
in my life. Like a literal, like this was a
situation because the first one, her daughter ended up living
with us. I was the mom like full time.
She was out of state. Like this wasn't like a weekend
thing. This was like full time.
And you know, I blew it kind of. I wasn't compassionate.
I didn't understand her situation.
I I I just wasn't. I was judgmental and I was rude
and I lost that relationship with that daughter.
After 14 years, she returned where to her mother.
Why? Because kids want their parents
and it doesn't matter what she did, it doesn't matter anymore.
Like that kid still wants that parent.
It's it's irrelevant. And so if I had been a better
way to handle that, I would probably have her in my life.
And then the same opportunity comes around again.
We have problems with kids and you know I still was very
self-righteous. I was like you're bad because
you did this and you did that and I couldn't open my eyes and
see maybe that's just who she is or maybe this is how she does it
or maybe it's not bad, maybe it's just different the way she
parents or whatever and maybe the kids need that.
Maybe that's maybe I'm being ignorant, right.
And so when I finally learned, my life completely changed.
And me and her became very good friends.
And and it changed for the kids. It changed for us.
Are we still as good of friends now?
No. We're we're OK.
But like it's not Buddy, buddy. But that's fine.
Some things are a season in your life to teach you something.
So I don't know. That's my thing.
I I don't like relearning, relearning, relearning.
Like I want to figure. It out.
Right. It's hard, and it just gets
harder because it Christianity isn't easy.
Like if If you want an easy situation, this probably isn't
the road to go, you know? No, my my friend and I were
talking about like the different church names.
It's always like Grace Hope Church or something like that.
And it's like, why don't they ever name it after, you know,
the other fruit of the Spirit, which is long-suffering?
Like, would you go to a church that was a long-suffering
church? Right.
Long-suffering. Possibly a martyr.
Maybe a martyr later. Martyr Church.
Oh my gosh. And I mean, we laugh, but like,
you know, it's true. Like, oh, OK, that sucks.
It's. True people go and they just
want to feel good. I just want my heart.
I just want my heart broken over like I just want to be broken
over my my evil. And so I it can change, and so I
can become more like the light of Christ and just remove all
that. I I think it's a tactic of the
enemy to be focused on all the outside stuff now, so.
Yeah, they they want us. Well, the busier we are with
other things that are not really Christ centered, then that's a
good thing for the enemy because what are we, what are we doing?
We're not doing the Lord's will, the Lord's work, whatever.
So like you said, you have to really pray about where you're
being led and what what you're supposed to be doing with that
whole situation. So yeah, I think I think that's
good and and any wise words to help people not get down the
rabbit hole of like the whole new age stuff.
Like it's really saturated, especially with the youth.
I see a lot of that now. Like symbolism.
Things I mean, it's super subtle at times.
I I think personally, you know, there's a lot of new age to
Christian. Like I said, hanging on to the
low hanging fruit. But if you look up the the
people that I mentioned before and the origin of it goes all
the way down to the 1800s, you can you can literally prove that
they are Luciferians. If you look up Helena Blavatsky,
Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, you can It is provable that all
of this doctrine that we're talking about goes back to them
from the New Age side. And then, you know, as far as
like the Eastern religions, Buddhism and Hinduism and things
like that, you know, people will say, oh, that's older than
Christianity. It's like you, you, those
people, first of all, they're counting on two, like 2000 years
ago when Jesus Christ walked the earth.
But Christianity is older than that.
And second of all, yeah, there was always, you know, demons and
things and false gods. That's literally in the Bible.
So there's only one Messiah, There's only one true living
God, that hole in your heart that you're looking to fill
through spirituality or manifestation or any of these
things, that that hole can only be filled by God's love, period.
And so if you are on the fence of that, just do what I did and
just pray and ask him to reveal his son to you.
And I did that very arrogantly, thinking that I was going to be
proved right. And the opposite happened and I
literally felt like I was blind. And now I can see, and it's a
gift and it's the purpose of life to find your way back home.
So. Absolutely.
That's it's way more important to follow God's plan for you
because though you may want something, though you may think
you need that. We actually are given what we
need without intervention from other ways, right?
Like we don't have to manifest something.
If it's meant to be, it will. It will be like the birds don't
go around saying things are going to happen, right?
Like they just do whatever they do, so we don't need to do that.
I'm not saying just sit home and be lazy or whatever, but I'm
just saying like if it's meant to be, if you're meant to get a
certain job and you say if it be God's will, then it will happen
for you. And if it's not, it's probably
for a really good reason. And if you force it, you're
probably going to have some really weird, you know, one
little thing that you could have made happen can change a whole
lot of things. And it can be so we don't want
to be messing with those types of things because you never know
what you're going to get. And there are people in this
world that are sent to us that are literally meant to try and
change things. They're literally meant to try
and derail you. They are, you know, you're an
assignment to them. I mean, it could even be a
boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, whatever.
And they can derail you for a long time.
And yeah, we just can't. We can't fall for that.
It could even be your kids. I mean, you have to really
evaluate if they're adult children.
Like, what's the influence? Where's their place in your
life? Where's your husband at?
Like, you have to look at all of it, 'cause I know I've fallen
into that myself. And making my kids my God
sometimes, and thinking that's good, 'cause then you're a good
mom. Any last words for everybody?
Just thank you for having me on. You know, if I said anything
controversial that upset anyone I'm pretty much used to that.
So but I I'm happy to discuss it with you and show you how I've
reached these conclusions. If you don't follow me, you know
I have basically all the stuff that I've talked about I've it's
on my page. I have a lot of good research on
Telegram, It's searchable. I've made a few videos about
specific topics. So I have a lot of resources to
send you if if it's something that you want.
Now, if you just want to argue with me, you know I can do that
too. But just just keep it
respectful. Yeah, be ready for it, 'cause
if. I mean, if you're gonna argue
with somebody that has a lot of knowledge, you gotta come with
the knowledge as well, right? If you wanna, if you wanna dish
it out, I'm sure she can take it.
But that's not what she's trying to do here.
Yeah, I'm happy to talk with anyone who has different
opinions. I just don't want to, like,
argue, you know, futile futility.
So. To change someone's mind is a
lot different than to argue to argue, right.
Yeah. Right.
Well, I appreciate you so much. Will you let them know where
they can find you once again? Yeah, best place to find me is
just on Instagram. It's bleeze, no SIOP.
There's no spaces or anything. It's BLZ no SIOP.
And that's where you can find me.