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You're feeling a bit like Alice 
tumbling down the rabbit hole. 

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You take the blue pill, the 
story ends. 

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You wake up in your bed and 
believe whatever you want. 

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You take the red pill, you stay 
in Wonderland, and I show you 

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how deep the rabbit hole goes. 
Alice. 

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Alice. 
Alice. 

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Alice. 
Alice, I'm awake. 

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Are you? 
Let's go now to our new episode 

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of The Unfiltered Rise with me, 
Heidi Love Hello everyone, and 

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welcome to The Unfiltered Rise. 
And today I have a wonderful 

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guest here with me and he is a 
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right? 
They're both made out on the 

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bestsellers list. 
Yes, Judgement of the Nephilim 

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and the final Nephilim. 
He is also an attorney and he is

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also a theologist that is 
studying in the Bible and Hebrew

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as well, Correct? 
Absolutely. 

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Yes. 
Did I miss anything? 

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That's that's great. 
Yeah. 

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So and also a father of two 
wonderful children. 

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Husbands, an amazing. 
Wife. 

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Son of a very, very, very 
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The most. 
That's the most important things

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Family is the most important 

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part. 
Absolutely, absolutely. 

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And I'm excited to talk to you 
cuz I did go through and I have 

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maybe some out-of-the-box 
questions that maybe you haven't

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been asked before too, 
hopefully. 

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Excellent. 
Excellent. 

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I'm excited. 
Yeah, anything else that you 

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want to like, tell me too that 
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know, if you have any upcoming 
things that you're working on or

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anything exciting coming 
everyone's way. 

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Yes, So yes, lots of things 
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So for those who do already know
me and follow me, you know I've 

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been kind of quiet for the past 
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been very busy with my day job. 
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author, but that God hasn't 
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So I've been very, very busy my 
day job, but I have a lot of new

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projects coming in 2024, so I 
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most recent documentary. 
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Nepheline Deception. 
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It's different from my other 
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really focused on the books, the
movies, comic books, video games

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that are targeted at our young 
adults, at our teens, at our 

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children that talk about Genesis
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But it twists everything. 
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humanity. 
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sympathetic figures and they 
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name of the Lord Jesus Christ 
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And there's a lot of this 
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So this, this goes deep into all
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So that's done, that is done. 
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next month in December in. 
December it is as we. 

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Say done, done. 
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available in Vimeo On Demand, on
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in DVD. 
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I got my manuscript copy of 
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Spanish. 
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over the years reach out to me 
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Spanish version? 
So it's done in Spanish by a 

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Christian translator. 
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It's going to have some special 
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like to always give bonus 
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It's going to have a bonus 
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then in 2024 I have a lot of 
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So I have a children's book 
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I'm focused on the kids, so I 
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Children's book series. 
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This. 
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So, you know, I was, AI was. 
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people don't know. 
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preparing me to be a parent. 
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children. 
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to really, it's their children's
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They're going through the basic 
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teaching it I think in a in a 
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what God wants, right. 
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you're learning about Adam Eve, 
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Ark. 
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Lord and Savior. 
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his repetition and finding Jesus
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children understand that these 
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stories or Aesop's fables to 
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And so that's coming out. 
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adults, my next theological 
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I'm pretty sure I've already 
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I've had tons of research on it 
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I feel like God has really moved
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write a book on on the gap 
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free Adamite earth, and kind of 
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There's a lot of amazing content
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old, old school theologians from
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the church, while there's so 
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going to blow people away. 
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that's going to be my next book 
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explore. 
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No wonder you're. 
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This is really important because
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they weren't really involved and
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a door to door salesman selling 
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like had a whole bunch of them. 
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a Jehovah's Witness type 
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Like there was 20 or 30 books, 
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It helped me. 

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I feel like it really built a 
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where if it had just been LDS 
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have learned as much as I did. 
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Yeah, well, you know, it's God, 
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God already planting the seeds 
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Because absolutely, absolutely. 
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looked at so many children's 
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Bible And that's how I've always
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Like I've been a Sunday school 
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lessons like and you know I I 
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them type of my own. 
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the way. 
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we had to endure my Sunday 
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difficult. 
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know really teach the Bible God.
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God gives us pictures. 
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you know, this type of this 
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things are repeating. 
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Joseph, Moses, he he showing us 
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his will, but to actually 
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So there's no reason why we 
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from elementary school. 
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they already believe in the 
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as well just teach them the 
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I'm going to make. 
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angels and fallen angels and 
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know, so it's going to have all 
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can't learn this and learn the 
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Ark. 
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Yes, I was very young. 
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12, I would have been like maybe
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help me. 
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other books about Archons and 
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it, so why not let them know the
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I mean that's how I feel. 
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I am so happy to hear about all 
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one very soon December. 
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That's great. 
I can't wait to see that. 

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Actually, I'll, I'll be there. 
I'm excited for that. 

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Speaking of children, I'll I'll 
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been going kind of Speaking of 
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a deep dive into kind of some 
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looking at the orphan trains, 
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that in that time period they 
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a in a possible way to integrate
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So I I think so much, right. 
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Babel, right, that's a really 
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Babel and Nimrod leading this 
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to reach heaven. 
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trying to really, it wasn't 
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tower. 
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a portal to the spirit realm, 
right, To bring back the days of

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Noah, bring back the fallen 
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of Genesis 6, right. 
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in that whole era, right? 
The demigods and the gods and 

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bring them back. 
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modern times, modern meaning the
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of the occult in secret 
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exact goal. 
It's about trying to bring back 

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the gods to trying to open up 
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possible, right? 
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genetic manipulation of the of 
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It's the same idea, right? 
It's it's trying to bring back 

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the age of the Nepheline and not
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too, prophesied. 
That's going to happen, right? 

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We were told specifically that 
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with the seed of men. 
So there's going to be these 

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efforts to bring back this era, 
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Even Francis Bacon, The New 
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I talk about Nepheline, how 
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And here's Francis Bacon coming 
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want to create an A new one, 
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So they've had this idea among 
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lack of a better term, 
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They are aware of these things 
and this is what they've been 

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trying to usher and and bring 
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Absolutely. 
I I always look at when, because

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the whole thing with Joseph 
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Another rabbit hole. 
And I do a lot of research into 

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the occult because I was a 
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I don't know that I would have, 
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that's what happened. 
So I go back to John D and I see

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some of these people that the 
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that was trying to usher that 
whole idea in who was said that 

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was brought to him by angels and
and that they wanted yes, one 

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religion, one world, a new 
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They started this world. 
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that they say how things were. 
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I feel like they wiped a lot of 
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in and this kind of leads into 
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shown not just with him but it's
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Crowley said it was an alien not
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would accept. 
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people just throw his stuff out 
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He lied and I'm like, I don't 
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a real similar story and so 
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Me into that, I I I think Joseph
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supernatural encounter and like 
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very. 
Simpler, right? 

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If you look at John D, you look 
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communicating with the spirit 
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Are you a high level occultist? 
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with the Angel with the fallen 
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So I, you know again talk about 
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of Lamech in Genesis chapter 4. 
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the first family of the 
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family who the fallen angels 
approached. 

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details about Lamech and his 
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technological explosion. 
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technology. 
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husbandry in tent making. 
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instruments which is really 
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invented music the musical 
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artificer. 
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he had his signature as double O
7 right that he but he the way 

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he wrote it whereas the seven 
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the OS were kind of underneath 
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pictogram of two ball cane 2 
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connection between 2 ball cane 
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knowledge right. 
The knowledge of the of the of 

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the spirit realm. 
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connection and the they're all 
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It's all the same goal to get 
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Noah. 
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whole thing that led me down, 
that is I found some sigils that

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were written by they said it 
wasn't Joseph Smith but his 

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brother but but he was the seer.
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possession but they were all 
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they he died with a Jupiter 
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He had these sigils. 
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I've never seen as a Mormon, and
actually I've never seen other 

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people delve into. 
So when I put this sigil into a 

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reverse look up, the one thing 
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Angel sigil at the bottom. 
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what it was then. 
It was like a hieroglyphic weird

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thing. 
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Jubila dance, which is very 
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talking about the music and you 
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And this was the calling of this
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John D and I didn't know who he 
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So I went down, down and there I
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But I I don't think the temple 
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I think the temple was there. 
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a lot of things were already 
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and and that leads me into the 
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talk about is that I feel like 
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wiping out of the Native 
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had oral history and oral 
tradition and they were passing 

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on these stories of these 
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Because there are actual 
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couple down, 'cause you could go
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They they don't forget and the 
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the Giants Nahaloo in the Ohio 
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Nevada, the Navajo, the Star 
knock they call them. 

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They were miners that settled 
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They were in Tennessee and 
actually spoke about them being 

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cannibals and really violent, 
but some of them weren't. 

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They were told like some were 
really primitive and and 

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cannibalistic like that, but 
others were really advanced, you

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know, and doing these other 
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And so, yeah, and these are 
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one like a different name. 
And I felt like that might have 

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been part of the reason why they
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Because. 
To suppress the right, right, 

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Right. 
I mean think about it, right. 

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It's Romans one, right? 
The wrath of God is revealed 

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from heaven, right? 
Against all unrighteousness and 

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wickedness. 
Who suppressed the truth, right.

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So how people who are trying 
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others, right. 
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you know, I, you know about 
these these accounts from the 

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Native Americans. 
It's amazing how you know it's 

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almost it's it's so similar to 
Genesis 14 where Abraham they 

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describe all the different type 
of tribes of giants right. 

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They said the the ememes, the 
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call them zuzemes right. 
You said how they said they have

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different names but it's all 
it's all the same account right.

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It's all coming back to giants 
being here and even the idea of 

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cannibalism, right. 
Think about it's and this is the

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beauty of the details of the 
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right. 
In the pre flood world, right. 

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I think you know the vegetation 
was very different. 

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I think you know you know 
animals were at peace with 

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humanity. 
There were vegetation. 

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Adam and Eve were just eating 
vegetables basically. 

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There wasn't all this the the 
carnivorous diet that we have 

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now. 
Right. 

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flood. 
He was given dominion over them.

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But it was very interesting that
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commandments that God gives Noah
after the flood is don't drink 

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blood, right? 
Like why? 

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Why is that the first thing 
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think there was lots of blood 
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eating human beings, right? 
The in numbers 13, the three 

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spies. 
The 10 spies you see the three 

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sons of Anoch in when they're 
scouting the promised land, they

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said this is a land that eateth 
the inhabitants up, right? 

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So I think that I again that 
that's what the Nepheline were 

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doing, that they were literally 
eating human beings. 

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Native American accounts of the 

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Nephilim say the same thing. 
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And they talk about how white 
they were, that they look very 

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European or red hair or 
different, you know, attributes.

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And I mean, you can't wipe it 
all out. 

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This is, you know, this is 
silly. 

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And I also don't believe their 
story that African American 

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people were brought over. 
I think a lot of them were here.

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I don't believe a lot of their 
stories. 

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I just, yeah. 
I mean you can just write. 

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So yeah, another perfect 
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Mexico who have these busts that

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are you know 1012 feet high bust
and the the people are clearly. 

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African, African, whatever you 
want, whether they're whatever 

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country their feature is 
unquestionably. 

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And this is obviously you know 
pre dating Columbus coming to 

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with America. 
So yeah, yeah I agree. 

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then that's the thing too is 

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that there's a lot of things 
that we discount in in African 

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culture and history that we're 
just not even you know it's just

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not even referenced or told, 
right. 

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So in the in their own accounts 
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second who was the first king to
sail to America. 

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You know, again, this is talking
about 1000 AD that he was 

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sailing there and coming back 
and going back and forth and 

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that there were, there were all 
these commercial passes that 

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were taking place and so, so 
yes, there's a lot of history 

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there as well. 
In addition to when you look at 

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such, you know, certain areas 
like in Nigeria, the Igbo tribe,

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right, you have the Lembas in 
South Africa where they have all

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these Hebrew ritual traditions 
in their culture they say go 

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back centuries and centuries. 
So even even that idea that that

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they, that part of the diaspora 
of the Israelites went to these 

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places, I mean, the Lamba are 
all the way in South Africa and 

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yet they are practicing the 
feast and rituals. 

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It's crazy, you know and like 
and it's. 

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Like, like, how did they know 
that? 

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Yeah. 
Century. 

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Exactly. 
And they've been doing it for 

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century. 
So a lot of this stuff is 

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suppressed, unfortunately, in 
wickedness. 

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And and on the orphan trains, 
which the orphan trains are 

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concerning in themselves but 
also the incubator babies. 

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I mean that one even is a a 
further step up for me because 

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as a nurse I know what they 
could do to manipulate things, 

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but they wouldn't do it unless 
they were all the way. 

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It was the whitening of America.
And I I feel like they were 

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trying to emulate possibly this 
is just my own conjecture that 

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they were trying to emulate 
these nepheline because they 

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were white. 
You know And then I I look at 

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the Mormons and they mention OK 
they can be more white and 

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delightsome. 
These are their quotes. 

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These are not my quotes. 
These are their their books if 

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they will do this and that and 
I'm and they really pushed not 

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marrying. 
They really pushed racism. 

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I I mean it was always shocking 
to me. 

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It was like, well, why? 
Curse, right? 

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To have dark skin? 
Yeah, yeah, sure. 

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So it was always confusing to 
me, but I now that I know 

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certain things, I'm like, oh, 
maybe This is why. 

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Like part of this whole Angel. 
Like how they want to, you know,

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copy, emulate, be like you know,
these. 

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Exactly. 
And and to a certain, to a 

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certain extent, right. 
We are all to a certain extent 

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under some level of spiritual 
influence. 

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I pray constantly forgot. 
Like when people ask me, you 

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know, I wrote Judgement and 
Nephilim, which took me almost 

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three years to write, right? 
I was doing tons of research and

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trying to figure out how do I 
want to write the research. 

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I was probably researching the 
book for over a year before I 

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really wrote anything. 
Every night I'm up, I'm up, I'm 

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up. 
And you know, so many people, 

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when the book was published, 
said, hey, you know, you put 

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things in this book I've never 
read anywhere else. 

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Like, where'd you even my own 
pastor? 

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He said, where'd you get this 
from? 

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I said, pastor. 
I said, you know, I'm every 

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night, I'm just researching. 
I'm not getting it from 

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anywhere. 
But I said it's God. 

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I said it's all God. 
There were so many nights where,

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'cause I wrote most of my. 
When I wrote my first book, my 

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children were still almost like 
babies. 

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They were like 4 years old and 
two years old. 

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They were very, very young. 
So I couldn't do any writing 

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during the day or in the 
evening. 

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I 'cause I I can't write with 
noise. 

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I I need, I don't, I can't write
to music anything. 

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I write in silence. 
And so most of judgement of 

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Nepheline was written between 
the hours of 10:00 PM and 4:00 

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AM and and so many nights. 
It would be two in the morning 

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and I would literally be on my 
knees and praying and in tears 

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and like God revealed something 
to me that I didn't know. 

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And so so you know, so you. 
And that's what the Spirit does,

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right? 
Jesus said the Spirit will lead 

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you in all truth. 
So the Spirit of God is 

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literally teaching us things is 
and leading us and inspiring us.

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Even the word inspiration has 
spirited, well it goes both ways

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right. 
Satan is also inspiring his 

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children right. 
So they're not just getting this

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out of thin air. 
They're getting it from 

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spiritual, from wicked, evil, 
spiritual influence from evil 

450
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spiritual teachings right. 
Even even Paul saying you know 

451
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,080
because sometimes we sometimes 
we just throw things that the 

452
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,600
Bible says out and we understand
what it says. 

453
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,360
Everyone understands, but we're 
really thinking about it right. 

454
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,880
When it says that in in Timothy 
that in in the latter days some 

455
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,920
shall depart from the faith and 
follow doctrines of demons. 

456
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000
Right. 
Think about that term. 

457
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,880
It says doctrine. 
It doesn't say he was going to 

458
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240
follow a demon like they're they
have a teaching like that's a 

459
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,240
doctrine, is like I have a 
chapter I want to share with you

460
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,360
of a teaching That's a powerful 
statement that means they're 

461
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,440
they're we're just going to work
and we're putting together like 

462
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,360
a curriculum to infect and 
invest the minds and lead people

463
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,080
astray, so. 
Well be because in the end days 

464
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,400
we will fall for a great 
deception and the Church will 

465
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,360
help us get there so. 
Sad but true. 

466
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,200
Sad but true? 
Yes, yes. 

467
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,200
And that that goes right into 
kind of like nowadays I feel 

468
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,200
like and I I don't know how you 
feel. 

469
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,280
This is why I'm going to ask 
you. 

470
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,280
But I feel like they're really 
pushing the agenda forward to 

471
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,800
make us feel like we're in the 
end times. 

472
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320
And and like, I feel like 
they're prepping it so that they

473
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,360
can put in Project Bluebeam and 
it will be like, oh, OK, because

474
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,800
I've seen all these rivers 
changing colors and different 

475
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200
things, but they're everything's
out of order. 

476
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:13,240
There's nothing happening the 
way God says. 

477
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,120
It's just happening. 
And so if you're not paying 

478
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,520
attention or you don't read 
enough or whatever the case may 

479
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,080
be, or you're new to it, you 
could easily be LED astray and 

480
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,880
say, Oh my gosh, like this is 
real, this is happening. 

481
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,360
And so I don't know how you feel
about that. 

482
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840
No, it definitely that the 
church can will play a huge role

483
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,520
in that And you we've seen, I 
mean it's since 2020, you know 

484
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,480
the power of the church to 
influence people and get people 

485
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,920
to really believe all sorts of 
things. 

486
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,720
You know, it's it's it's getting
more and more intense which 

487
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,680
makes sense because you know 
again as you approach the end 

488
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,840
time the thing that's going to 
increase first if you go to 

489
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Matthew 24, it's deception, 
right. 

490
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,440
That's what Jesus said to his 
disciples to take heed no man 

491
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,400
deceive you. 
What if me sign of the end of 

492
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,240
the world and of thy coming, 
right. 

493
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Jesus said take heed. 
No man to see. 

494
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,040
So deception is going to come 
first and then everything else 

495
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,320
until I always have to tell 
people to pump the brakes when 

496
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,360
they say, oh, this is it, we're 
in the good tribulation. 

497
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,800
We just started. 
You know I was actually in 

498
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,520
Norman. 
OK, for the Prophecy Watchers 

499
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,400
conference speaking at the 
Prophecy Watchers imminent 

500
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,400
return conference the night that
the most recent intifada broke 

501
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,120
out in Israel. 
So imagine the next morning, you

502
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,400
know Saturday morning to me 
everyone is going nuts. 

503
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Old everyone. 
You know, there was 1000 people 

504
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,520
at this conference. 
Oh my gosh, this is it. 

505
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,960
This is it. 
You know, with the war starting,

506
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Israel, this is happening. 
And so on one hand, that energy 

507
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,280
is amazing, right? 
We need to be looking and 

508
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,200
watching, right? 
The Revelation 16 says blessed 

509
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,760
is he that watcheth right? 
So we're supposed to keep our 

510
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,360
eyes for the return of our 
Savior. 

511
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,720
We're supposed to be 
understanding prophecy. 

512
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,480
However, we have to stick to 
what the Bible says and stick to

513
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760
the order. 
Like you said, that God has an 

514
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960
order in everything including 
anti prophecy, including all the

515
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,920
unfolding of events of the end 
times. 

516
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,280
And so yes, the church, or at 
least the pseudo church I think 

517
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,520
can and will play a role in 
getting people, in deceiving, in

518
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,360
deceiving people. 
And and to help them believe 

519
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:34,400
like in Bluebeam with the whole 
AI part, like, I think they're 

520
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,440
just setting the stage. 
I think they're just trying to 

521
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,480
see like, oh, is this going to 
work? 

522
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,400
And they're just chucking like, 
oh, let's see what's going to 

523
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,320
happen with this and let's see 
what's going to happen with 

524
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,840
that. 
Let's draw a little pot over 

525
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200
here and let's you know even the
weather. 

526
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,840
I I try to explain this to my 
mom she's like yeah but then 

527
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440
there's this earthquake and and 
all this stuff. 

528
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,760
I'm like yeah, but they they 
manipulate the weather and the 

529
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760
weather it it all effects 
everything like if it rains too 

530
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,160
much and there's too much water 
in the ground and and shifts and

531
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,200
I'm I'm like trying to explain 
that to her because she she she 

532
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,120
got real nervous. 
I mean, I was nervous, but I was

533
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,360
like, OK, hold on, Let's just 
look at this, you know, and I 

534
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520
said that there's not enough 
things done. 

535
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Like it's not, it's not how it 
should be. 

536
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,720
And I mean with the calendar 
changes, with the dates mixed 

537
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840
up, we have really no idea on 
dates. 

538
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920
So you can't even go by that 
either. 

539
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,800
So you have to just be wise and 
and not panic. 

540
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240
I feel like you have to really 
watch for the things that are 

541
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,800
going to come at us because the 
capability is wild at this. 

542
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Point it it is. 
And we and we, we're just 

543
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520
scratching the surface, right? 
I mean, because if you think 

544
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,520
about, you know, things like 
HAARP or the ability to project 

545
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,280
something into the sky, right? 
That to me is I always say the 

546
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720
sky doesn't lie, right. 
When people, if people see 

547
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,560
anything in the sky, it will it.
It immediately is reality to 

548
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560
them and it and that can be 
manipulated, right? 

549
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320
That can be. 
Manipulated. 

550
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Right. 
And so and so right now this is 

551
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,040
all the the the preparation, 
right, Because we have to be 

552
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,320
conditioned, right. 
But it it's, it's no different 

553
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,840
than what happened in the 
Gospels. 

554
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Jesus said pick 70 people and 
said go out and start preaching,

555
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,960
start planting the seeds, start 
preparing. 

556
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,160
John the Baptist, it's there's 
always a preparation before the 

557
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480
arrival. 
And so it's this and that's 

558
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,080
what's going to happen. 
We have the preparation for 

559
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Christ and the preparation for 
Antichrist and so the the 

560
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:45,320
technology now is really at the 
point where it can. 

561
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,160
We can have mass deception on a 
huge, huge international scale. 

562
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,040
Yes, any day, any day they. 
Perfected this they've they they

563
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,160
do these things in like China 
with the dragon that came down 

564
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,040
on the sky and they did it in 
somewhere I think Brazil and 

565
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,840
they are I think they're just 
playing with people right now to

566
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,720
see it what happens but they've 
had the problem is not enough 

567
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Christian Now Christians will 
study the Bible and Christians 

568
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,560
will study a lot of things but 
Christians don't like to get 

569
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,920
into the darker part of things 
and here's the problem the 

570
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720
darker side like John D 
Blavatsky flat admitted in her 

571
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,840
books about giants like all 
these people. 

572
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000
You know very frequently. 
Yeah, yeah. 

573
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,480
They talk about this stuff. 
And I'm like, OK, you have all 

574
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200
these people and things pushing 
this agenda because they have 

575
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,360
mystery schools, they have this 
technology, they know things far

576
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,200
beyond what we know. 
Like it's it's way higher. 

577
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,400
And I always go back to King 
James and the Bible situation. 

578
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600
But he didn't just have that 
done. 

579
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,880
He wrote he had three books on 
demonology written at the same 

580
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,920
time, Demonologia. 
And people miss that And it it's

581
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040
it's a hierarchy it's it's an 
explanation it's all these 

582
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,360
things. 
But then people will say well 

583
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
that's demonic, that's scary or 
that's that's demons. 

584
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480
We don't talk about that And I'm
like as above so below 

585
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,040
everything has an order. 
You know, there's there's order 

586
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120
in all of this, and there's 
power in all of it. 

587
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,640
If you believe the angels, watch
out for you, then you have to 

588
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520
know that. 
You know what? 

589
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,920
What does the Bible tell us 
about the opposite side of that?

590
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,120
That familiar spirits will know 
you because they also follow you

591
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840
your whole life? 
You know, they they know 

592
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
everything. 
Yeah, and and and and and even 

593
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,920
again, like, you know, Ephesians
612. 

594
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,520
We wrestle now with flesh and 
blood, but with the 

595
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,840
principalities and powers, 
right? 

596
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
So we know that right? 
Spiritual wickedness in high 

597
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,960
places. 
But the term, again, it says 

598
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:57,080
wrestle wrestling. 
Somebody is close combat, right?

599
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,360
That is, that means they're 
going to shoot you, which you 

600
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,240
can do from 500 yards away. 
That means they are all up on 

601
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,720
you, right? 
And they want to grasp you and 

602
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920
hold on to you. 
Like that is what wrestling is, 

603
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840
you know? 
And so when you think about it 

604
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,520
from that standpoint, how could 
you not understand your enemy, 

605
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,520
right? 
The mandate is to definitely 

606
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,200
understand your enemy, right? 
It says we need to be aware of 

607
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,840
the devil's devices. 
That means we've studied them, 

608
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
we understand his tactics, and 
we can resist them. 

609
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Yes. 
So if you're not doing that, if 

610
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,520
you're not studying how, there's
no way you can resist them. 

611
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,320
You're not even aware of what? 
He's trying to, yeah. 

612
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Especially when they're like, 
that doesn't even exist. 

613
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,840
That one gets me the worst. 
I'm like, wait a minute, how do 

614
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,920
you discount if you're a true 
believer now? 

615
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,400
If you're not a believer? 
OK then. 

616
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,440
But I mean, that's foolish, But 
I get it, you know, I mean, you 

617
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,120
want to say it doesn't exist 
either way, that's on you. 

618
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,680
That's scary to me. 
But if you can believe in one 

619
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,840
and not the other, that's a 
dangerous slope, You know, 

620
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,840
that's that's frightening to me.
And then what is God saving us 

621
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
from if there's no danger or 
whatever we be saved? 

622
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,280
From Yeah, exactly nothing. 
And the churches, you know, and 

623
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,679
This is why you know, God 
calling you into this service, 

624
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,040
like he called me, like he 
called Josh Monday, Derek 

625
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Gilbert, LA Marzulli is so 
important because we know that 

626
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,920
the majority, overwhelming 
majority of churches are never 

627
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,560
going to touch these things. 
So, but God has given us this 

628
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,280
ability, like we were talking 
about earlier, that we can now 

629
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,159
reach people, we can podcast, we
can vlog and we can reach people

630
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,000
not just in America, all over 
the world. 

631
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,320
So it's like, you know, the 
corporate church is getting 

632
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,400
weaker, but the true church, 
which is just believers who are 

633
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,400
committed to serving Jesus 
Christ and sharing his word and 

634
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
not just the gospel, right? 
The whole thing, the meat, the 

635
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,920
milk, the bones, everything, 
right, the full council of God. 

636
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920
We're stronger because God has 
given us this blessing to live 

637
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,640
in this time where we can reach 
people everywhere in the world 

638
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440
right now and so, so it's so 
important, it's so important 

639
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,160
that. 
That we speak on. 

640
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,760
These things. 
I don't know about Lai don't 

641
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,640
know about Gary Wayne. 
I know for me and you, 'cause I 

642
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,880
heard your story and you were 
super busy and like, you were in

643
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,920
another country with your 
friends and stuff and like, 

644
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,640
going to school and and this hit
you. 

645
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,160
This hit me out of nowhere. 
I'm a mom of a whole bunch of 

646
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,040
kids. 
You know. 

647
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680
I mean, it's not like any of us 
go like, yeah, we're going to go

648
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,640
do this today. 
Josh was like going to be a rap 

649
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,880
star like this doesn't 
cohesiveness with that is not 

650
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,120
going to work. 
And he had to change his whole 

651
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,280
trajectory and as we all did and
so it's not like we're at home 

652
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,080
just like oh I'm going to do 
this tomorrow like this this 

653
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,280
comes from somewhere and and two
or more and his name is church 

654
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,600
that that's church and I I try 
to tell people so much 

655
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,440
especially Mormons that leave 
leave because they feel like the

656
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,240
temple that's where God lives 
the the you know all this stuff.

657
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:13,480
And I'm like, no, none of that. 
I mean, you can just throw it 

658
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
out. 
Start again, learn about the 

659
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,320
Christ, learn about your heart, 
learn about, learn to pray. 

660
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,800
And when and when I say pray, 
when it says pray always and do 

661
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,360
not cease. 
I mean like that's in your mind 

662
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
all day. 
Like you, you should have a 

663
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,160
constant thing with God there. 
I don't know about you. 

664
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,880
Yeah, I just. 
Do run in dialogue. 

665
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,360
Trust me, I'm talking to God all
the time. 

666
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,800
Yeah, I'm sure he's all. 
The time she's Chad, you know. 

667
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000
And it's important. 
And and and and that opens you 

668
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,200
up to no Jesus, right. 
And that's the beauty of it is 

669
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,120
that when we can remove the 
forced religion that's forth 

670
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,840
upon people and the corporate 
religious aspects of our of our 

671
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,720
walk, now we can get really get 
to know God. 

672
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,200
When I got to you know that the,
the, the greatest part of being 

673
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,800
an author for me is all the 
nights of this, staying up late 

674
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,800
at night, getting in the word 
and trying to find things and 

675
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,160
answers to questions and God 
just keeps revealing them. 

676
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,800
And there's no doubt in my mind,
it's just because I'm God's. 

677
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,440
Like, OK, you're going to sit 
here and when you want to get to

678
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,160
know. 
Me, Yeah. 

679
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,080
When when you say you're an open
vessel and you want to know 

680
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,600
things, sometimes God makes you 
like, I mean, 'cause my husband,

681
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,080
even when I started the podcast,
he's like, you're not going to 

682
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,360
talk about Flat Earth, are you, 
'cause you're going to sound 

683
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,080
crazy or you're not going to 
talk about this or that. 

684
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,520
And I'm like, listen, I'm going 
to talk about whatever I think I

685
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,720
should talk about, 'cause I 
don't know what that is, but 

686
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,680
I'll know when I get there, you 
know? 

687
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,600
And he always is like, oh, man, 
and like worrying, 'cause we 

688
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480
still live in Utah, you know, 
And. 

689
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,960
And I'm careful who I share. 
I'm careful who I share with. 

690
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,720
Yeah, because I still have a 
family here. 

691
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,080
I still have many family members
in church. 

692
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,800
I'm sure they think we've just 
lost it completely. 

693
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,800
But I mean, I know what God 
feels like. 

694
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,880
I know. 
I know all the difference. 

695
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,720
I I've been there. 
But you know you never know and 

696
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,360
I'll and I'll say this, you 
know, and this is the again, 

697
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,400
it's just all God is that over 
time. 

698
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:26,160
So in you know I was in college 
my best friends who he was 

699
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Jewish. 
However he was an atheist. 

700
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,160
Right. 
He's raised he's Jewish by 

701
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,760
heritage and raised in Jewish 
Home and had a bar mitzvah and 

702
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,000
all that thing. 
But he was totally an atheist. 

703
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
The irony of this is that he was
a religious studies major, but 

704
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,200
he was an atheist. 
And so we used to argue and 

705
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,200
debate about God and the Bible 
and he everything He he he, he 

706
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,680
knew the Bible really well. 
He would challenge me and we, 

707
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,040
you know, I loved it. 
So I mean debating is like 

708
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,720
second nature to me. 
So I I enjoy it and we had so 

709
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,840
much fun doing that. 
But he, you know, graduated 

710
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
college and he was just didn't 
believe in God at all, right. 

711
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,080
And so just a few months ago, 
he's calling me and calling me. 

712
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,400
I get like 3 calls from him and 
he's texting me saying I got to 

713
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,720
speak to, I got to speak to, I 
got to speak to you. 

714
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,800
And he said he goes, listen, he 
goes, I the last three nights he

715
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:24,160
goes, I've done a deep dive on 
Nepheline, the Nanaki Atlantis. 

716
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,400
And he goes, and I'm reading all
this stuff and I'm just 

717
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Googling, Googling, Googling. 
And he goes, and your face pops 

718
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
up and he goes, I'm like, and 
I'm like, wait a second, He's 

719
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,760
like didn't run, right. 
And so and so, so it's like that

720
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,200
was the most I was that was the 
most receptive. 

721
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,520
He was in that conversation to 
now talk about the Bible. 

722
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,720
Why did God do it? 
All the things that we used to 

723
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,760
talk about, well, what about the
wars in Canaan? 

724
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,360
Why would God kill the babies? 
All the things he said to me in 

725
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,120
college now, you know he has a 
full understanding of it and is 

726
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,120
hungry to know it. 
And so you just don't know who 

727
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,920
in your family, who in your 
community in Utah you're going 

728
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,360
to affect and or or who might be
listening to you right now and 

729
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,360
then even letting you know. 
Because they don't want anyone 

730
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,000
to know they're. 
Listening to you, you sprinkle 

731
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,400
those seeds, you never know 
where they're going to pop up, 

732
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,520
yeah. 
God will give the growth, right?

733
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
So just keep, just keep, keep 
serving, keep doing what you're 

734
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,360
doing. 
It's. 

735
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,720
Awesome, right? 
It's it's scary, but you kind of

736
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,120
have to just suck it up. 
Like, because I felt like it 

737
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,240
would have been such a 
hypocritical stance for me to 

738
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,320
pray to God to say because it 
happened at this horrible time 

739
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,600
of my life. 
Like I was sick and it was 2020 

740
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440
and then I lost my daughter. 
She didn't die, but she she got 

741
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,400
married and she said, like, she 
was like my best friend. 

742
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,400
And she said, yeah, I think I 
was abused so by and I was like,

743
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,280
what? 
Like, and her husband just only 

744
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,120
met us three times and he just 
did not like us. 

745
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,480
And so they moved halfway across
the country and I never saw her 

746
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,480
again. 
It's been four years and it 

747
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,040
broke me. 
Like, I know you're not supposed

748
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120
to let things like do that 
because I still have all these 

749
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,160
other kids. 
I still have 5 kids and she's 6.

750
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520
So I knew I still had to kind of
keep it together. 

751
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,600
But I wasn't. 
I was so pitiful and like, I'm I

752
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,720
I mean, that's OK for a little 
while, but then you have to. 

753
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,520
You have to. 
Yeah. 

754
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,640
You have to start to say, OK, 
what is happening? 

755
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,160
Why is this happening? 
What is going on here? 

756
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Like, get outside of yourself. 
And it's hard. 

757
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,600
Like, I miss her. 
I mean, of course, I mean, if I 

758
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,840
could fix it tomorrow, it's the 
prodigal son. 

759
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,320
If she knocks on my door, we're 
going to have a feast. 

760
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,280
But I can't. 
Yeah, like the forcing I did 

761
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560
that. 
I'm very, I'm like, you know, 

762
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120
people are passive aggressive. 
I'm like aggressive, aggressive.

763
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,000
And so at first I tried to make 
it happen. 

764
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,720
But then I listened. 
I love Derek Prince. 

765
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,640
I listen to so much Derek. 
Prince and. 

766
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
He talks about like you can't 
force. 

767
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,200
It's it's witchcraft. 
If you do that, it's not good. 

768
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,880
You have to not do that. 
It's not God's way. 

769
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Boy, did I learn. 
I was like praying about like 

770
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
help me Lord through this. 
And he did. 

771
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,400
But like sometimes when you ask 
for things you're gonna go down 

772
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640
this weird road and and that's 
what happened. 

773
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,720
I I had to learn how to get 
outside myself. 

774
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:34,760
And I kind of learned that maybe
I made her more of an idol in my

775
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,760
life and he doesn't like that. 
And I wasn't as close to God as 

776
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,440
I should have been. 
And you know how you said 

777
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,160
there's an order of things with 
God and we know this. 

778
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,240
I know this more now, but at 
that time I was more like almost

779
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,640
like a baby Christian. 
I was a Christian for a long 

780
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,160
time, but I hadn't ever, like, 
given it my all or given it to 

781
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,960
God. 
And I I just started delving 

782
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,120
into things and I'm like, wow, I
really did my husband dirty kind

783
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
of there. 
Like I was putting my kids above

784
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,400
and it wasn't, it wasn't good. 
It it was bad. 

785
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,520
I learned some lessons like and 
I mean when you ask for help 

786
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,560
sometimes what I'm saying is or 
you go down the rabbit hole like

787
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,560
you're sometimes you get this 
answer that you may not have 

788
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,480
expected you know and same with 
your friend like and you never 

789
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
know when it will happen like 
you just have to trust God. 

790
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600
You have to like and that is so 
hard. 

791
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,440
People say that all the time. 
They say, oh, I trust God, but 

792
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,320
do you though if if he took your
child, could you trust God? 

793
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,960
You know he didn't take her, but
if that happened to you? 

794
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Yeah, I understand. 
Yeah. 

795
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,040
And the only thing that got me 
through it, I think, was I just 

796
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,080
read Job a whole bunch. 
And I was like, you know, even 

797
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,120
though people always get to the 
part about Joe being fully 

798
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,080
restored, they forget that his 
children all died in one day and

799
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,880
they were smashed and he got 
more children later. 

800
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120
But a child is never replaced. 
They're not the same. 

801
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,840
Yep. 
He not at all. 

802
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,520
He lost. 
He suffered. 

803
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,880
He had permanent pain. 
He had permanent, permanent 

804
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,320
pain. 
Yeah. 

805
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,120
No. 
For sure. 

806
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,040
For sure. 
Yeah. 

807
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,640
But you learn how to pull out, 
yeah? 

808
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,160
He did, He did, He did. 
And God, you know, it's it's 

809
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,600
like, you know, and he trusted, 
right. 

810
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,800
As hard as that is as hard as 
the. 

811
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,520
And that's unfortunately, you 
know, he he it's we benefit. 

812
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,760
It's sad. 
It's sad we benefit from that. 

813
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Right, 'cause we get to look at 
him and see, wow, wow, that. 

814
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,960
What a what an example, you 
know? 

815
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,640
But yeah. 
And that's what back to your 

816
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,080
thing is. 
That's full circle, like people.

817
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,160
Your friend looking to you like 
I'm looking to job like I've 

818
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200
looked to you like. 
That's the whole point. 

819
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920
Like, I'm sure you're not doing 
this for fame and fortune. 

820
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,000
Like that's not really the 
point, that hours you've spent 

821
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,040
are not equal to the hours. 
Yeah, it's not going to ever 

822
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,360
equal out. 
And I get that because I'm such 

823
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
a researcher. 
I mean, I lettered in debate. 

824
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,640
So I'm a huge when I said I'm a 
dork nerd, Yeah, yeah, well, 

825
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,680
'cause. 
I mean that. 

826
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,080
Was just always I was going to 
go to law school. 

827
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,440
So I was I was always I did 
cross examination. 

828
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,640
I always wanted to do that and. 
That was my I did see the 

829
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,800
debate, too. 
We might have. 

830
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,280
Been Yes. 
Yeah. 

831
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
I. 
Mean we I traveled all over the 

832
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,840
country. 
Oh, it, it was fun and I loved 

833
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,240
it. 
And I I just, you know, I I had 

834
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:34,680
a real passion. 
But then nursing got me, 'cause 

835
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
I'm by nature a caregiver, and 
so it's a. 

836
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,280
Very noble profession, so. 
Nothing. 

837
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,480
I love it, Yep. 
But but the studying kind of 

838
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,880
went away because you get so 
busy with your family, you get 

839
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,160
really wrapped into yourself. 
We really forget about our 

840
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,880
fellow man. 
We really forget like that part 

841
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,000
I was saying about like having 
that constant dialogue with God 

842
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600
instead of saying I'm going to 
pray for this guy later. 

843
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,720
Like you see some man walk past 
you and he's limping or 

844
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,280
something, you and you think I'm
going to pray for that person. 

845
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,680
But instead of doing that later 
when you're, you just do it 

846
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,400
right then, and then you just 
do. 

847
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160
It, yeah, I'm. 
I'm a big believer in that, 

848
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,840
especially when you're speaking 
to people too. 

849
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Sometimes you just might be 
around somebody and say, hey, 

850
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,600
you know, this is what's going 
on. 

851
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,360
Something happened to my child 
or my husband's sick. 

852
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,640
I just, I I I don't like to tell
people I'm going to pray for 

853
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,480
you. 
Just pray for them right there 

854
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,680
on the spot. 
Just get it. 

855
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Just why wait? 
And and I feel like that too 

856
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
now. 
I and my kids are always like, 

857
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
oh, that Lady at the store, you 
knew her. 

858
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,920
I'm like, no, I I don't know 
her. 

859
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,440
And he's like, that was weird 
then And I'm like, why? 

860
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,760
And I mean, he's like, yeah, she
walked up to you and told you 

861
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,880
all this stuff. 
I'm like, well, then obviously 

862
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,680
that was what was supposed to 
happen. 

863
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,800
Like, I don't know. 
And he's like, why would you 

864
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,400
talk to like, weird strangers? 
And I'm like, a lot of times 

865
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,880
they're not weird strangers. 
They just, I think God does 

866
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,280
something sometimes where he 
just puts people to you because 

867
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680
he knows you will. 
Exactly. 

868
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,640
I don't know. 
And and if you think about it, 

869
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,960
too, again, in Scripture, so 
many eatings are random, right? 

870
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,720
It's not, you know, right. 
It's very, there are lots of 

871
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,760
random, but, you know, God is 
ordering it right? 

872
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,840
That God's telling someone go to
this place, but they don't even 

873
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,800
know who they're going to meet, 
right. 

874
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,160
And so that's our example. 
That's our example, right? 

875
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,880
We have to be out there, You 
know, you have to. 

876
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,200
And it's almost like, you know, 
and this is, this is the 

877
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,400
important part too, when you 
talk about being busy and with 

878
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,760
your children and the 
distractions of our day-to-day 

879
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,280
lives, which are all fine, 
right? 

880
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,480
I love my children. 
I love spending time with my 

881
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,840
children. 
A big reason why I moved was 

882
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,680
because I knew I could be out of
the New York City rat race and 

883
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,960
actually have a normal nine to 
five job and go to my children's

884
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,480
practices and do homework with 
them and all those things. 

885
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,560
So there's nothing wrong with 
that. 

886
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,960
However, we still, as believers,
as ambassadors of Christ, right?

887
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,080
Again. 
But words have meaning. 

888
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,080
An ambassador is going out to 
strange lands to represent 

889
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,200
Christ to people, right? 
And normally an ambassador's 

890
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,320
going out on an assignment. 
That ambassador doesn't even 

891
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,800
know the people personally, 
right? 

892
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,720
They're just meeting, OK, You're
going to go to Nigeria and go 

893
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,600
meet their Prime Minister, 
right? 

894
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,520
You don't know that person. 
You're just, but you're you're 

895
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,120
being sent. 
And so we have to be out there, 

896
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,760
right? 
We have to be out in the 

897
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,800
community, wherever our 
community is, and be a light. 

898
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,960
And sometimes being a light is 
just being friendly. 

899
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,520
It's saying, yeah, I am going to
have an A 5 to 10 minute 

900
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,520
conversation with someone in 
line with me for coffee, you 

901
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,120
know, because that's going to 
open the door to sharing Christ 

902
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,200
with them and sharing the love 
and light of Christ with them. 

903
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,800
Well, and a smile is gone. 
Gone away from many people 

904
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,160
because something happened in 
2020 with the whole covering, 

905
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,200
with the whole 6 feet apart, 
which by the way is super occult

906
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,200
in nature. 
If anybody wanted to know that 

907
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,080
it's a Gnostic mask, you stand 6
feet apart but and you wear a 

908
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,920
face covering, but hey, 
whatever. 

909
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,440
And so they wanted to instill 
these things in US So that 

910
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,920
wouldn't happen as much. 
Because if you go to other 

911
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,120
countries, I visited a lot of 
places, they always know who 

912
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,880
Americans are because they smile
a lot and they say that. 

913
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,560
And I'm like, how sad is that, 
that they want to condition us 

914
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,960
like other places and not have a
friendly atmosphere where you 

915
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,800
can do that because no one's 
going to approach you if you got

916
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,480
RBF. 
That's not happening. 

917
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,800
I don't know. 
It's not happening. 

918
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,800
It's not. 
It's not happening. 

919
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,400
It's true. 
No, it's not. 

920
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,560
And I see. 
How you know so many people from

921
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,560
being, you know, you can find 
quarantine whatever you want to 

922
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,920
call it, right. 
Can find. 

923
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,240
And and given these measures 
that were antisocial, like, 

924
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,560
right. 
People malfunctioned. 

925
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,760
Right. 
You see all the the videos of 

926
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,240
people on planes absolutely 
acting insane. 

927
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,440
Right. 
It's like that is not how we're 

928
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
made, right. 
We're not we're made to be 

929
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,160
communal. 
We're made to be around you, 

930
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,040
that we're made for fellowship. 
And when we lose them, people 

931
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200
literally lose their minds. 
I mean, they do. 

932
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,640
I I work mental health. 
I'm like, yes they do. 

933
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,120
I mean. 
That was a horrible year. 

934
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,360
Airplane. 
That's just one example, but 

935
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,840
it's just easy because there's 
so many videos of, just like, 

936
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,560
you never seen people acting 
like this before on planes. 

937
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,160
And then I've been drinking, 
right? 

938
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,240
This is not a case of someone 
who's drunk, all right? 

939
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Fine, They're. 
Just rolling on the floor. 

940
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,240
These are people who are just 
just just got on you're 

941
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,320
screaming or a fight, want to 
fight somebody or want to fight 

942
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,960
the flight attendants and all 
this stuff. 

943
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,960
And so that's so yeah, so a lot 
of it, so much, so much change. 

944
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,920
And then also the other thing 
too is it opened us up to so 

945
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,080
much influence because we're 
home and now we're really 

946
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,280
getting so much from our 
computers, right? 

947
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,280
We're learning from our 
computers and whoever happens to

948
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:22,040
be on that screen, and that took
people in so many directions, 

949
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,760
which, and some are good, but 
there are so many bad ones, 

950
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,280
right? 
And. 

951
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,320
And not having access to other 
live people and not having that 

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,880
same it, that's you. 
You see the way people you know 

953
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,560
again, another way of kind of 
going crazy. 

954
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,560
And people don't even understand
that in like, OK, if you have a 

955
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,880
baby and you put it in 
isolation. 

956
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,400
And this is actually true. 
Timothy McVeigh got sick when he

957
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,880
was little and they had to 
isolate him from his family and 

958
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,680
everyone for like a period. 
I think it was like a month and 

959
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,440
no one could touch him. 
He got really, really sick. 

960
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,840
It was some autoimmune, I think.
I can't remember exactly, but I 

961
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,880
know it was a long period of 
time that no one could touch him

962
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,720
and and people have to have 
that. 

963
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:12,800
That is a necessity. 
And he was small and so it like 

964
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,480
psychologically impacted him for
the rest of his entire life. 

965
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,160
Like we see that. 
And it's not just him, it's 

966
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,880
preemie babies. 
That's why they let the parents 

967
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,840
in now and make the little holes
so you can stick your hand in 

968
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,600
and touch your baby, because 
they need it and. 

969
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,720
So it's true. 
And God knows that. 

970
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:34,960
You know, I think of, as you 
said that I just thought of the 

971
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Apostle Paul. 
You know, when he's on the road 

972
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,240
to Damascus, he gets blinded and
he's told wait here. 

973
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,880
And then of course Jesus goes 
and tells Anayas go to go to 

974
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,360
Paul. 
And he's like, I don't want to 

975
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,360
go. 
He's like, this guy's been 

976
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,800
killing Christians left him, 
right? 

977
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,840
This dude is crazy. 
Why? 

978
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Why? 
Yeah. 

979
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,640
No, I don't want to go there. 
You'll see this man. 

980
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,880
Could you imagine that 
assignment? 

981
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Right, Exactly right. 
But right. 

982
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,440
But that's really what he was, 
you know, he told to do. 

983
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,640
And of course Jesus said, you 
know, he's my servant, right? 

984
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,880
He, I he's mine. 
So he goes, But the amazing 

985
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,840
thing is, obviously it's amazing
that he obeyed, right? 

986
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,120
Because I can tell you, so many 
of us would not do that, so many

987
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,560
of us not if someone was like, 
go to your enemy. 

988
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,040
This person's attacking your 
people, the people who are 

989
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,120
closest to you. 
And I want you to go and welcome

990
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,600
him to the fury of Christ. 
So one, he obeyed. 

991
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,520
But the amazing thing is the 
third thing he says when he sees

992
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,800
him. 
He says Brother Saul, right? 

993
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
He gave him love, right? 
And so we need that cause. 

994
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,760
Imagine how soul felt. 
Yeah, Alone and blind. 

995
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Great. 
Revelation. 

996
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,360
He had this great revelation and
now I know who Jesus is. 

997
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,920
Jesus has spoken to me from 
heaven. 

998
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,720
I believe in Yeshua Ha Mashiach,
right? 

999
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,880
However, none of these people 
like me, aren't they? 

1000
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,880
You should love me. 
I don't know why everyone. 

1001
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,920
Else hates me, right? 
Like, that's for sure. 

1002
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,240
Like like everyone else around 
me who loves Christ, hates me 

1003
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:12,080
and they're scared of me and at 
it at his weakest right, 'cause 

1004
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,320
he can't even see right now, He 
could have actually come and 

1005
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,800
slapped him right, if he wanted 
to, right? 

1006
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,000
This guy killed, you know, or 
ordered the death of apostles 

1007
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,160
and he? 
Could have took his moment. 

1008
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,440
He could have took it, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1009
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,200
You know, like this is for 
Steven. 

1010
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,800
Right. 
But he, he calls him brother. 

1011
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,320
And it's so powerful for him to 
speak to him that it's like, you

1012
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:44,360
know what, you're my brother now
that level of and that's that's 

1013
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,600
what that's the power of God, 
right. 

1014
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,560
That love of who knows what that
did. 

1015
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,120
And so we're not told in 
scripture. 

1016
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,360
But I have to think that warm 
Saul's heart to hear that as 

1017
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,440
he's sitting there blind in a 
room just waiting for something 

1018
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,080
to happen and he's called 
brother, it's like Jesus, God 

1019
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,640
saying it's OK now, you're good 
now. 

1020
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Like, you know, even with my 
people who are down here on 

1021
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,400
earth. 
You're, you're, you're. 

1022
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,040
A part of the family now and so.
And that's what we all want. 

1023
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,320
We all want that family like 
unity even people that are the 

1024
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,200
hardest like and that this is a 
funny story. 

1025
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,200
I mean, I'm not Saul, but this 
this was real for me like, OK, 

1026
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,320
so my husband's ex-wife was very
difficult for us both and and me

1027
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:37,120
and her we just didn't jive on 
mostly kid raising and I get it 

1028
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,040
now a lot better. 
But when that happened with my 

1029
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,520
daughter, what I told you very 
few people reach out. 

1030
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,720
Most people don't know what to 
do with that because it's not a 

1031
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,000
death. 
So you get no help as far as 

1032
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,600
like, oh, I'm so sorry. 
They literally just say you're 

1033
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,600
you must be a bad person because
something you did. 

1034
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,080
I mean they wouldn't do that and
they immediately judge you 

1035
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,240
because it's a mom you know. 
So it's just the thing. 

1036
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,160
And so the one person that 
actually called me his ex-wife, 

1037
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,720
and we had had ACPS case with 
her years before and I thought, 

1038
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,480
oh, boy. 
And so she called and her 

1039
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,640
daughter said, my mom wants to 
talk to you and I'm like, why? 

1040
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,040
And she said, well, she just 
wants to see if you're OK And I 

1041
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,680
said, yeah, right. 
And she, she said, no, really. 

1042
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,120
And even though we have 
different views, she's a 

1043
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Christian. 
And she, she is a good 

1044
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,280
Christian, you know. 
And I got on the phone and she 

1045
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,520
said, can I pray for with you? 
And I thought and I said to her,

1046
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,880
yeah, right. 
And I said you of all people 

1047
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,800
right now should be gloating and
say, ha ha, look, now I now your

1048
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,160
kids gone. 
Now this happened to you. 

1049
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,600
And I I said that because I was 
still really a new Christian at 

1050
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,360
that point. 
And she said what kind of person

1051
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,800
would I be? 
And I just thought, I don't know

1052
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,200
if that was reversed at that 
time now I would, but like at 

1053
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,800
that time in my life, if I would
have done the same. 

1054
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,680
And she did, and it helped me. 
And and even though we're not as

1055
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,040
close as we once were, I'll 
never forget that. 

1056
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,520
I mean, ever. 
It's amazing. 

1057
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,880
It was a gift. 
It was a gift. 

1058
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,520
And you know, like I said, it's 
it doesn't You don't have to be 

1059
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,840
their best friend forever. 
It might have just been that 

1060
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,480
time or that thing or whatever 
you're supposed to do, like the 

1061
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080
assignment. 
You're supposed to go do it. 

1062
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,160
It doesn't have to be like some 
people make it a lot bigger than

1063
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,680
it is and it doesn't have to be.
It just can be whatever it is 

1064
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,520
supposed to be that day, you 
know? 

1065
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,680
And you don't have to feel like,
oh, now I have to be their best 

1066
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,360
friend for the next 20 years of 
my life and this and that. 

1067
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,040
And if that happens, great. 
But it may not be that. 

1068
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,000
We don't know. 
They might have just needed you 

1069
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,520
that day. 
You know exactly. 

1070
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Exactly. 
Don't. 

1071
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Don't fear, you know have. 
Have less fear. 

1072
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,360
I mean, at least we're not 
murderers, most of us, right? 

1073
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,000
Oh boy. 
Could be worse. 

1074
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,840
Could be worse. 
It. 

1075
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,160
Could be worse. 
I know we've been on here for a 

1076
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,360
hot minute, but I do have one 
more question on people that are

1077
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
believers. 
A lot of times, even when I 

1078
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,080
speak to them about the third of
the angels going down in 

1079
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,080
Revelations 12, they often times
say that was never in the Bible.

1080
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,760
And I try and explain to them 
like about the stars and the 

1081
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,840
verse in nine. 
So it's like 12, four through 

1082
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,240
nine kind of that whole thing. 
And a lot of people are like 

1083
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,280
that's not biblical and I'm like
well or Revelations is just a 

1084
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,280
dream or blah blah blah. 
And so I always want to ask. 

1085
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,400
Somebody. 
Like how to tell people more to 

1086
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,680
how to understand this, cause 
sometimes I don't get through. 

1087
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,840
It's funny, you know, God is so 
good, 'cause I was actually 

1088
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,760
thinking about this very 
question this morning. 

1089
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:09,720
So I was listening to a sermon 
on Revelation and I just was 

1090
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,880
wanting to dig into Revelation 
16. 

1091
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,240
So. 
I knew I was coming all. 

1092
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:21,560
The time God knew, God knew. 
And in the sermon, the pastor 

1093
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,200
reads. 
You know, he starts off the 

1094
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,120
sermon. 
I love the start of the sermon. 

1095
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,920
Open your Bibles to Revelation 
chapter 16. 

1096
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,560
And he just reads it right, 
which is to me, that's how you 

1097
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,320
start. 
That's how you teach the Bible. 

1098
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,800
You first start by actually 
reading it to the congregation. 

1099
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:42,440
And but then he went out of his 
way to say, you know, all these 

1100
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,560
things are just symbolic. 
Everything, the weather events, 

1101
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,040
all these things. 
It's God expressing his will and

1102
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,680
what he wants to do to people. 
But it's just, you know, and he 

1103
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,120
was stressing that don't take 
this literally. 

1104
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,920
And I thought to myself, I said,
OK, well, you know, again, you 

1105
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,920
know, kind of coming full circle
with how we started this 

1106
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,560
conversation about typology and 
repetition. 

1107
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,840
I don't know any 99% of churches
I know. 

1108
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,120
And pastors will, when they 
teach the Exodus, they teach it 

1109
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,280
as a literal event. 
This really happened. 

1110
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,400
There was a real Kingdom called 
Egypt. 

1111
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,440
The Israelites were really 
enslaved there. 

1112
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,440
God really sent supernatural 
plagues. 

1113
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,320
To force and bring Pharaoh to 
his knees. 

1114
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,120
To let the Israelites go and 
culminating with the parting of 

1115
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:37,400
the Red Sea. 
Well, guess what? 

1116
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Revelation's all the same place.
It's water turning to blood. 

1117
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,360
There are locusts, There is 
darkness, there are sores on 

1118
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,080
people's body. 
All the same things we've seen 

1119
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,160
we're seeing happening in 
Exodus, right? 

1120
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,520
Are happening again in 
Revelation. 

1121
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Furthermore, we know in Exodus 
chapter 10 God specifically said

1122
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,680
to Moses I'm not, I'm going to 
judge Egypt and her gods. 

1123
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,440
So this wasn't just a judgement 
of Pharaoh and this wicked 

1124
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,920
nation, it was a judgement also 
of the fallen angels who are 

1125
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,840
ruling over this, the most 
powerful civilization on earth, 

1126
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,760
which also happened to be the 
most advanced civilization on 

1127
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120
earth at that time. 
Shocker, because they were 

1128
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,840
constantly in communion with the
fallen angelic realm, right? 

1129
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,120
And their leader as a serpent 
coming out of his forehead, 

1130
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,760
right on this crowd. 
So this is a satanic society. 

1131
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,200
What are we going to see in the 
end times? 

1132
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,880
We're going to see the seed of 
Satan sitting on the throne 

1133
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,960
trying to rule the earth, and 
God's going to do the exact same

1134
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,240
thing. 
So if it was literal then why 

1135
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,080
wouldn't it be literal now? 
Right. 

1136
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,600
That is all, it's all the exact 
same things happening again, 

1137
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,640
right to the to, to the extent 
that in Revelation you get to 17

1138
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,880
and 18 of mystery Babylon says 
that's it. 

1139
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,560
The great city, also known as 
Egypt, right. 

1140
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,440
So it's so it's so it again, God
even calls it Egypt in the Book 

1141
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000
of Revelation, right. 
So, So what are we talking about

1142
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,960
here? 
So for a Christian, I would say,

1143
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,920
you know, we have to, we don't 
really have the right to just 

1144
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,000
take an entire book of God 
specifically saying he's going 

1145
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,600
to do this and he will do this 
and just say that. 

1146
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,120
None of this is literal, right. 
Especially when God speaks with 

1147
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,480
such specificity, He is going to
seal 144,000 witnesses, right? 

1148
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,880
The locusts that come emerge 
from the abyss in Revelation 

1149
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,080
Chapter 9, the 5th trumpet. 
They torment the unbelieving 

1150
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,800
world who don't have the seal of
God in their foreheads for five 

1151
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,760
months. 
It's a very specific time, 5-5 

1152
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,560
months. 
Well, there's a reason that God 

1153
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,880
speaking very. 
These are very specific details.

1154
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,600
The mark of the beast, right? 
Which is connected to another 

1155
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,280
number 666. 
It's only in your right hand or 

1156
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,000
your forehead. 
The the two witnesses preached 

1157
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,320
for 3 1/2 years. 
They're killed. 

1158
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,920
It's that their body, their 
slain bodies, the world rejoices

1159
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,360
over their slain bodies for 3 
1/2 days. 

1160
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,200
I mean, this is God is speaking 
with great specificity. 

1161
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,920
And not not only do we not have 
a right to say, oh, that's just 

1162
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,520
all symbolic, it's all allegory.
We're also denying the power of 

1163
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Scripture. 
Where are you? 

1164
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,360
There's no other book in any 
religion that's going to have 

1165
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,120
prophecy with that level of 
specificity. 

1166
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,880
That is an incredible level 
specificity that God that the 

1167
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,160
Bible's give you in Revelation 
over and over and over again. 

1168
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,320
So rather than try to write 
these things off as being 

1169
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,640
allegories and not being real, 
let's embrace it and learn and 

1170
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,520
challenge ourselves. 
And I understand because 

1171
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,440
churches don't like to teach in 
Revelation or they want to gloss

1172
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,800
over it. 
But we have to challenge 

1173
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,520
ourselves, I see. 
Genesis, too. 

1174
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,200
They want to skip a lot of that 
one. 

1175
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,680
Oh, yeah. 
Oh yeah, exactly, exactly. 

1176
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,840
So, you know, I I always compare
our walk in the faith to 

1177
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,680
exercise. 
I played sports all my life. 

1178
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,240
I love going to the gym. 
I love to work out. 

1179
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,280
And so it's like if you are 
trying to compete in athletics 

1180
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,480
or you're trying to work out and
get in shape or whatever your 

1181
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,560
goals are. 
If you go to the gym and you're 

1182
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,080
not tired after you're done for 
an hour, you're probably not 

1183
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,200
working out hard, my friend. 
If you're challenging yourself, 

1184
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,920
whether it doesn't matter what 
you're doing, you can be lifting

1185
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,360
weights, you can be walking the 
treadmill like you're doing 

1186
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,520
Pilates, whatever. 
You have to challenge your body 

1187
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,640
to make your body stronger. 
It's the same thing with your 

1188
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,200
faith. 
And if you're studying the Bible

1189
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,240
and you're not questioning what 
you've thought for the last 

1190
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,160
30-40 years of your life, you're
not thinking, wait a second. 

1191
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,360
I think there's something new 
I'm seeing here. 

1192
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,120
You need to study more and you 
need to study harder. 

1193
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,800
I'm constantly questioning 
myself. 

1194
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,760
I'm constantly going back and 
looking at passages because as 

1195
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,960
you get deeper, we can't. 
There's we will never know 

1196
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,680
everything until an eternity. 
There's so much knowledge in the

1197
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,760
Bible, so we have to challenge 
ourselves. 

1198
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,240
And I think in Revelation it's 
like the ultimate challenge for 

1199
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,320
believers because it's so 
mysterious and so confusing on 

1200
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,440
its face. 
The last thing I'll say about 

1201
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:13,200
the third of the angels in 
Revelation 12 is remember, we 

1202
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,200
are told, Jesus said that hell 
itself was prepared for the 

1203
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:23,280
devil and his angels, which 
means he has a faction of angels

1204
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,360
that God himself. 
God Yeshua says, are his. 

1205
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,000
So it's no surprise that in 
Revelation 12, what do we see? 

1206
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,840
We see them being expelled 
finally out of heaven for good, 

1207
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,600
right? 
Because we know from Job and 

1208
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,800
from other passes that that 
Satan still goes to heaven. 

1209
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Satan's can still speak to God 
before his throne. 

1210
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:49,560
So we really should take that 
seriously because one, we know 

1211
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,800
the devil actually has angels 
that are loyal to him. 

1212
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,080
Two, the passage of Revelation 
12 I think is describing A 

1213
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,520
literal future event when 
they're going to be evicted. 

1214
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,480
But also there's a there's a 
very dire warning in that 

1215
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,080
passage and this is, and I would
challenge anybody just read the 

1216
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,960
end of Revelation 12 if you 
think it's not literal where it 

1217
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,520
says woe to the Inhabiters of 
the Earth, for the devil has 

1218
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,720
come upon you having great wrath
for he knoweth his time is 

1219
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,920
short. 
It's saying you guys are in big 

1220
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,400
bubble. 
Yes, it is. 

1221
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Devil is coming directly to you 
and he's not leaving. 

1222
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,840
He's now stuck on Earth, so why 
would God put that there? 

1223
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,320
What sense would that possibly 
make to say inhabitants of the 

1224
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,480
earth is literally 8 billion 
people? 

1225
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,960
You're all, you're saying y'all 
are in big trouble. 

1226
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,480
Why would God say that unless it
was actually something that's 

1227
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,160
going to come to pass? 
And so we have to just, you 

1228
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,880
know, it can be overwhelming. 
It can seem very complicated, 

1229
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,320
But fortunately, there's so many
resources out there. 

1230
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,600
You're not alone. 
There's so many great resources 

1231
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,520
to understand Revelation. 
There's so many great 

1232
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,640
commentaries, great books, you 
know, Reach out to me, question 

1233
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,200
me, give me a question. 
I'm happy. 

1234
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,200
I write people all the time. 
I write. 

1235
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,880
I write long even responses to 
people all the time, All the. 

1236
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:12,480
Time. 
Good. 

1237
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,440
So amazing. 
Yeah. 

1238
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,240
So we got to embrace it. 
Yes. 

1239
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,520
Yes, I do believe Revelation 12 
is absolutely literal, as are 

1240
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,520
the judgments. 
And God has shown us this 

1241
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,320
before, so. 
I I believe that as well and I 

1242
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,600
think it's funny that people are
so wishy washy about the 

1243
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,200
hierarchy of things and I'm like
you if you would look at those 

1244
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,480
books and I'm not saying OK go 
study all the demonic books like

1245
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,640
I mean some of them are really 
scary but there there is a 

1246
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,200
certain they are very regimented
like this is over this, this is 

1247
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,840
over that, this is over this. 
He has this many under him, that

1248
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,360
many under them. 
It isn't like, Oh well, I don't 

1249
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,560
know. 
And it's going to be this and 

1250
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,320
this. 
It's it's not like that. 

1251
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,520
God is very specific. 
They're very everything is 

1252
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,680
really specific. 
And so I'm like, who made this 

1253
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,400
up then? 
If you don't think any of this 

1254
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,400
is real, then, you know, or the 
lesser keys of Solomon, like if 

1255
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,360
you don't think any of this 
stuff is real, then where did 

1256
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,640
they come up with it, 'cause 
this is some crazy, like, 

1257
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,240
perfect number stuff. 
And it's not like every one of 

1258
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,160
them's the same. 
They're all different. 

1259
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,800
They're all just like their own 
thing and. 

1260
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:33,680
Makes you wonder if God, God the
Father is really consumed with 

1261
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,479
numbers and you know, maybe make
a book hold numbers where he's 

1262
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,160
arranging Israel in a certain 
location. 

1263
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,520
A certain protest is saying on 
the east at the facing north, 

1264
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,439
facing S facing West with 
certain numbers in a certain 

1265
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,080
order, with a certain role 
assigned a certain standard with

1266
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,120
a certain animal on it. 
It's so this is all and and 

1267
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,040
remember God told Moses 
everything you're doing when you

1268
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,080
do the Tabernacle and ranges 
really just you're doing it 

1269
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,160
based on what I'm showing you in
heaven. 

1270
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,920
It's just a reflection when you 
said as above so below the 

1271
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,520
enemies just taking that from 
God like the Tabernacle is a 

1272
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,399
reflection of what Moses saw in 
heaven. 

1273
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,479
The the organization of the 
tribes and they're literally 

1274
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,520
marching and in their camp is 
all based on what you know. 

1275
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,399
It's it's like you know it's 
almost like you know you have 

1276
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:26,760
the 4th dimension in the spirit 
realm, right? 

1277
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,560
You're and the. 
The lesser realm is the shadow 

1278
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,800
of the greater realm, right? 
Your shadow is A2 dimensional 

1279
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,319
image of yourself because you 
are a three-dimensional being, 

1280
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,080
the Tabernacle. 
And everything Moses was doing 

1281
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,240
was the shadow of the heavenly 
Tabernacle, right? 

1282
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,120
So 'cause he's doing this in 
three dimensions so, so even 

1283
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,760
that. 
So God is clearly like there's a

1284
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,080
clear numerical order and 
numbers have super significance 

1285
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,319
to God. 
So it's no surprise that the 

1286
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,640
angels, good and bad, follow 
that same pattern. 

1287
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,760
They care about do everything 
according to to numerics, to 

1288
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,840
strict numerical arrangement in 
organization. 

1289
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,000
So it's all it's all there in 
the Bible, right? 

1290
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,520
And so we so in. 
Understanding how the enemy. 

1291
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,320
Uses that is valuable. 
Right. 

1292
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,160
Right, We should know how the 
enemy is using this. 

1293
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,320
Anything that that they go 
after, it means something, It's 

1294
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,680
important. 
And so even people that were 

1295
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,760
greatly deceived like John DI 
mean he loved God. 

1296
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,120
He tried really hard. 
He just went too far because he 

1297
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,600
was obsessed. 
He he had something. 

1298
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,000
And at the point where he went 
into wife swapping, he should 

1299
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,000
have understood that this was no
longer a good idea. 

1300
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,680
OK, he knew God. 
He knew God's works. 

1301
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,560
But he even said as a 
mathematician, which is what 

1302
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,360
he's mostly known for, because 
most people throw this esoteric 

1303
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,000
stuff out and you very rarely 
hear about him because Crowley 

1304
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,600
stole all of it and that's who 
you hear about. 

1305
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,280
But he spoke and said God's 
language is mathematics and he 

1306
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,080
was a mathematician and he 
understood the importance of 

1307
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,960
like days and numbers and 
things. 

1308
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,200
And I'm like, this is all 
important. 

1309
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:12,280
And that is why they are so 
obsessed with specific numbers. 

1310
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,200
Gematria, all this stuff means 
something. 

1311
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,440
And it's it's just it's just the
danger of you know, he was a 

1312
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,000
brilliant mind, right? 
It's like Solomon, right? 

1313
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,920
He had the most brilliant mind 
of a full of just a pure human 

1314
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,160
person, not obviously Jesus and 
what he got into every occult 

1315
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,800
practice possible in addition to
the wife swapping and. 

1316
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,520
That got real far. 
But right. 

1317
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,040
But he explored everything in 
the Occults and like when you 

1318
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,520
know, it's a total, you know, 
idolater. 

1319
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,320
And so that's that's the danger.
But we still have to, you know, 

1320
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,120
we still have to have 
discernment and look into these 

1321
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,120
things, right? 
Like the Bible, right. 

1322
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,800
It's it's it's the same thing 
like and maybe people will say 

1323
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,720
this to me when I do my 
documentary because like I said,

1324
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,640
my my first documentaries are 
just based on the Bible. 

1325
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,520
What's teaching us about the 
Nephilim? 

1326
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,800
What's teaching us about the end
times? 

1327
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,720
But here I'm showing people 
things and I and I I showed 

1328
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,840
clips of this at when I was in 
Norman, OK, at the Prophecy 

1329
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,240
Watchers conference. 
And a lot of things I'm showing 

1330
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,640
people are very disturbing and 
they're saying some people say, 

1331
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,080
why are, you know what, Why are 
you putting this in? 

1332
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,760
I said because this is what your
kids are watching. 

1333
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,720
So this is nothing. 
I'm showing is R rated. 

1334
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,000
There's nothing I actually show 
that's an R rated made for 

1335
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,200
adult. 
This is all content made for 

1336
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,080
young adults and teens. 
So they they have easy access, 

1337
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,320
they're watching it, they know 
it. 

1338
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,880
And yet they're talking about 
Satan having a A, a child 

1339
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,360
impregnating a woman and it says
a nepheline was born. 

1340
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,800
I'm playing this clip where it 
says a nepheline was born who is

1341
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,080
the offspring of Lucifer. 
And they explained this and they

1342
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,560
say it's that it's the son is 
the half a hybrid son of a 

1343
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,560
fallen Angel and a human. 
They're explaining it just like 

1344
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:04,200
the reality and so, but part of 
what we have to do right? 

1345
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,520
Ephesians 511 have no fellowship
with the unfruitful works of 

1346
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,920
darkness. 
But reprove them. 

1347
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,880
Expose them. 
So we're supposed to know these 

1348
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,640
things and expose them. 
Supposed to understand how the 

1349
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,480
enemy is using numbers. 
Understand how the enemy is 

1350
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:23,680
using Genesis 6, How the enemy 
is using the accounts of fallen 

1351
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:29,080
angels to create new religions 
and and expose them so. 100% on 

1352
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,720
that. 
And that's a command, by the 

1353
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,200
way. 
It's not. 

1354
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,120
It wasn't. 
That isn't said in the Bible as 

1355
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,240
an option. 
It's a command. 

1356
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,520
So. 
We have to be wise. 

1357
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,720
You know why? 
Wise as a serpent and gentle as 

1358
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,760
a dove. 
We we have to be on that same 

1359
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,760
level. 
If you put yourself underneath 

1360
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,320
the level of these things, which
I believe, I don't know how you.

1361
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,040
I believe the diamond ions. 
How demoniions. 

1362
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,960
I'm not sure how you say that 
exactly, but they are here. 

1363
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,560
They're here. 
They know you. 

1364
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,400
They're here to torture you. 
They're here to steal, kill, 

1365
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,160
destroy. 
They're make every man a liar. 

1366
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,480
You, you really have to 
understand some things, not only

1367
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:13,360
about yourself. 
Like know yourself, know thyself

1368
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,160
is important because that's 
where you will know and identify

1369
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,880
what is your fault. 
That's where you'll make sure 

1370
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,000
you put on that armor when 
you're going into battle, Who's 

1371
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,720
going into battle without their 
armor on or knowing you play 

1372
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,720
sports. 
This is what I always tell 

1373
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,960
people. 
If you're going to go and play a

1374
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,200
football team, the coach runs 
the place from the other team. 

1375
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,520
You watch them. 
So why aren't we watching? 

1376
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,360
Exactly. 
Exactly. 

1377
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,680
Amen. 
Amen. 

1378
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,600
You're you're absolutely right 
and it's a wonderful analogy and

1379
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,000
it's so important and and you 
never know when you're going to 

1380
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,240
need it. 
Like you know my wife when we 

1381
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:58,880
met she was deep into the new 
age and you know into all sorts 

1382
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,840
of new age practices. 
She had past life regression, 

1383
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,400
out of body experience, all 
these things going on and that 

1384
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:12,280
and but but by God's grace, at 
the time she met me, I was 

1385
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,680
probably a year and a half to 
two years into just researching 

1386
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,320
all these things. 
And I wasn't researching for a 

1387
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,160
book. 
I'm just researching New World 

1388
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,520
Order Illuminati you. 
Were like me, you fell down the 

1389
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:23,920
rabbit. 
Hole I was so. 

1390
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,520
I was so. 
It was so easy for me to explain

1391
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,240
these things to the point that, 
you know, I remember we went to 

1392
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,960
her father's house. 
I met her father for the first 

1393
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,000
time. 
Right on his bookshelf he had a 

1394
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,560
book by Helena Blavatsky. 
And so I explained to her who 

1395
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,280
she was and how this all goes 
back to the devil, how it's not 

1396
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,640
just peace and love and 
ascension and transcendence, it 

1397
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,880
all goes back to Lucifer and so.
But God put her in my life at 

1398
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,720
that time when I was equipped, 
because prior to that I knew 

1399
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,600
that. 
Prior to that, I knew the Bible 

1400
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,400
for sure, but I didn't know the 
enemy's devices. 

1401
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,120
But God just sent me down some 
websites and rabbit holes and 

1402
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,120
blobs where you started 
understanding what's going on 

1403
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,920
out there and. 
So you could pull her out, you 

1404
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,640
know, because she may not have 
listened to you if you didn't 

1405
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,120
know. 
I mean, she's just going to blow

1406
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,800
you off. 
Like, whatever. 

1407
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,960
You don't know what you're 
talking about, but you did know.

1408
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,080
I did know and it was easy. 
It was so easy for me to explain

1409
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,680
because I was really, really in 
season and understanding who 

1410
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,640
these people truly are like. 
When that was given to you for a

1411
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,800
reason, obviously, like that 
knowledge was imparted on you so

1412
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,040
that you could help her, you 
know, it all makes sense, even 

1413
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,080
though people say why do you 
waste your time on that Sir, 

1414
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,960
that's silly or whatever. 
And to the point that also glory

1415
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
to God, that her mom is a 
Christian now, too. 

1416
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,680
She was also in the new Age and 
now she's a Christian. 

1417
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,400
She's a believer. 
We were just studying the she 

1418
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,360
was just here about a week and a
half ago and we were studying. 

1419
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:05,040
We actually did a Bible study 
together. 

1420
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,400
Yes, that's that's. 
Amazing. 

1421
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:12,320
So that's the power of 
understanding these things and 

1422
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,040
exposing them. 
Yes, 'cause you never know who 

1423
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,920
you're going to save. 
Like your friend, it's been how 

1424
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,400
long? 
And he never cared before, but 

1425
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,320
like, now, he cares and exactly 
you know you'll be able to do 

1426
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,480
that. 
And the paranormal, we're we're 

1427
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:29,040
in an era now where spirituality
has become so common. 

1428
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,320
You know, I can't. 
I come from the corporate, the 

1429
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,640
most corporate of corporate 
environments, right. 

1430
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,800
I was working on Wall Street. 
And I can tell you back when I 

1431
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,520
started, when I graduated law 
school, you would never see 

1432
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,440
somebody who's a lawyer or 
working in finance with a 

1433
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:48,560
necklace with, like, an energy 
crystal on it. 

1434
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,200
No way. 
Now you will now you there are 

1435
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,520
people walking around Goldman 
Sachs right now with their 

1436
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,000
little crystals on and their 
energy crystals, you know where 

1437
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,400
that was very. 
But it's become so common or 

1438
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,720
they're taking ayahuasca trips 
and all those things. 

1439
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,960
And so it's spirituality is 
becoming very common. 

1440
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,400
And so being able to discuss 
these things, discuss 

1441
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,200
supernatural, the paranormal, 
right. 

1442
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,200
Think about people like again, 
like even, you know, they're. 

1443
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,800
When I go to conferences, I 
can't, you know, I say this 

1444
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,960
about LA Marzulli all the time. 
The amount of people who said, 

1445
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,960
who said to me at conference who
comes say, hey, how are you 

1446
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,920
doing? 
And they say, hey, I was into, 

1447
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,880
you know, something in the 
supernatural. 

1448
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,000
I was into the new age. 
I was into Sufism. 

1449
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,040
And then I started learning 
about aliens and then I stumbled

1450
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,880
upon LA Marzulli. 
Then it all clicked and it goes 

1451
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,200
back to the Bible, right. 
Josh Peck, who's had a 

1452
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,880
phenomenal career, right? 
And he his whole salvation 

1453
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:51,880
journey started by LA talking 
about aliens and how it connects

1454
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,600
to the Bible. 
And so there's so much that we 

1455
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,400
have out there that we can use 
as our witness by engaging on 

1456
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,920
these topics. 
So we have to keep doing it so. 

1457
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,080
Absolutely. 
I'm glad you're in the fight 

1458
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,560
too. 
I'm here. 

1459
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,160
You do you think that the alien 
movement is actually fallen 

1460
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,800
angels? 
Oh yeah, of course, Yeah, 

1461
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,640
absolutely. 
Yeah. 

1462
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,880
I think they're fallen angels 
and I think that they will be a 

1463
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,080
part of ironically. 
I really think they're going to 

1464
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,880
be part of Revelation 12. 
Oh yeah, and I think AI is well.

1465
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,800
The devil and his angels are 
going to come to earth, right? 

1466
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,640
And so in the in the final 
Nephilim, I talk about this 

1467
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,920
amazing quote from Hippolytus 
right in 2O2AD where he talks 

1468
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,840
about that exact passage. 
That is a literal passage, 

1469
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,520
right? 
This is a it's going back in 

1470
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,640
2000 years. 
And we have a church father 

1471
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,360
saying, yes, this is literal, 
but not only does he say it's 

1472
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:49,400
literal, he says, he describes 
it The angels coming to earth, 

1473
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,880
the fallen angels coming to 
earth, he says they're going to 

1474
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,920
be bathed in beautiful lights, 
sing hymns floating above the 

1475
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,120
ground, and the Antichrist is 
going to be with them. 

1476
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,160
And how they're going to point 
to that he he he describes them 

1477
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,320
as being beautiful, as being 
amazing, glorious, wonderful 

1478
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,680
being. 
Angels of life, the whole thing.

1479
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,840
Angel of life. 
Or they could just say they're 

1480
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,840
from another planet and we're 
here to save you. 

1481
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,920
We're here to rescue. 
You're our children. 

1482
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,040
He seated you 7000 years ago. 
And now we're back to, you know,

1483
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,920
help you transcend to your next 
stage of evolution. 

1484
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,800
Right. 
So I do think, I do think 

1485
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,080
they're fallen angels, They're 
aliens. 

1486
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,000
I do think they they'll actually
be a part of the end time 

1487
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,440
scenario. 
That's how I feel as well. 

1488
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:33,840
I feel like they're just in 
waiting. 

1489
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,200
And I often times, even though 
I'm super grateful for 

1490
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,720
technology, I always think back 
of the Black Mirror that John D 

1491
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,160
used. 
And I always look at my phone 

1492
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,480
when it's not active and it's 
got that black shiny screen and 

1493
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:51,760
it's liquid crystal display. 
Liquid crystal Obsidian is what 

1494
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,280
they used for that scrying 
mirror. 

1495
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,480
And I just think, you know, 
we've got to be careful. 

1496
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:01,040
There's a fine line between 
using something for what you 

1497
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,640
need to use it for, for God. 
And because this is all fallen 

1498
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,480
Angel technology, all of it, 
people want to focus on makeup. 

1499
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:12,080
And I'm like, we got a whole lot
more problems than some makeup. 

1500
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,720
Like, I mean, I get it, but like
you are you going to stop using 

1501
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,400
everything? 
Because if you are, it's like 

1502
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:22,040
everything and you can't own a 
house because also that's 

1503
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,000
prideful. 
So I'm like you, you don't 

1504
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,000
understand fully. 
Like people want to say that, 

1505
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,240
but I'm like, you don't really 
understand what that means. 

1506
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,840
And and I think it's valuable. 
I think you need to understand 

1507
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,680
it like any, like anything. 
I think that, you know, 

1508
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:41,840
knowledge is power, period. 
I mean, yeah, but yeah, I'm with

1509
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,000
you. 
I think that it's going to, it's

1510
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:49,080
going to be like the whole AI 
thing, like the whole Internet. 

1511
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,760
Like I always think like what's 
on the other side of that 

1512
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,760
anyways, that's giving us all 
this information, 'cause it's 

1513
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,800
not, it's not what they tell us.
I know that much and and. 

1514
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,240
Ultimately, it's it. 
It's it's the ultimate way to 

1515
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:09,040
control, right? 
The Antichrist needs technology.

1516
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:12,960
Satan is not God, right? 
The Antichrist is not God. 

1517
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,440
He's not omniscient. 
He's not omnipresent. 

1518
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:19,160
He's not omnipotent, right? 
So he needs technology, right? 

1519
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,200
We see it, right? 
Mark of the beast is technology,

1520
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,320
right? 
Whatever it is, whether it's an 

1521
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,520
actual chip, whether it's a 
tattoo, whatever it is, it's 

1522
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,480
technology, right? 
You're buying and selling. 

1523
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:34,680
It's it's technology. 
The image of the beast is 

1524
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,440
technology and what is it? 
It's it's AI right thing, right?

1525
01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:41,880
The the the false prophet says 
that he causes the people to 

1526
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,400
make an image. 
So it's something that is made. 

1527
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,800
It's artificial but it says but 
then it it's given life. 

1528
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,520
So it's actually a lie right? 
So it is the culmination of AI 

1529
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,080
right? 
It's every worst sci-fi 

1530
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,440
nightmare. 
But then it goes even further 

1531
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:04,240
because when you again in in in 
Revelation 13, it says that the 

1532
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,240
image and by the way why do they
even make the image right? 

1533
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,320
I think they need the image 
again because the Antichrist 

1534
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,600
can't be everywhere at once, 
right? 

1535
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,240
He's he's running a world 
government he's fighting wars 

1536
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,520
but he didn't have time to sit 
around like so he had to create 

1537
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,680
use technology to create an 
image of himself so people can 

1538
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,280
constantly worship him every day
while he's actually out running 

1539
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:34,640
his satanic government and so 
but the amazing thing that's not

1540
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,120
often discussed is that it says 
that the image has the power to 

1541
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,120
put to death anyone who's not 
worshipping the Antichrist. 

1542
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:47,400
So it's going to know if for 
every person on the planet 

1543
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,360
whether or not you are 
worshipping how can that be done

1544
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,840
right? 
Obviously only through an 

1545
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:58,120
Internet connection and some 
link to your mind, you know say 

1546
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,000
a Neuralink, right. 
So right. 

1547
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,840
It's going to be accessing your 
very mind. 

1548
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,720
I believe it's going to be 
ultimately, I believe the image 

1549
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,280
of the beast is going to access 
the minds of people in the 

1550
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,520
house. 
Worship is here, Worship is 

1551
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,600
here, right. 
And so it's. 

1552
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,200
But it's going to know that 
24/7. 

1553
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,360
We're going to know you have to 
choose. 

1554
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,320
It will be a. 
It won't. 

1555
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,160
Be an accident. 
No, no, there's no accident. 

1556
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,840
No one's slipping you anything. 
It's not going to be presented 

1557
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,840
as a medicine. 
It's going to be a absolutely. 

1558
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,600
You're pledging your allegiance 
to the Antichrist and to the 

1559
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:36,520
devil openly, right? 
And so, but yeah but technology 

1560
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,480
is going to be so key to that 
and and ultimately I think the 

1561
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:41,360
culmination of AI is the image 
of the beast, so. 

1562
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,800
I couldn't agree more. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1563
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,800
We're in for a ride and it's 
been, it's been an interesting 

1564
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,560
few years, let me tell you it's 
it's gotten wild and I think we 

1565
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,880
can all see the writing on the 
wall. 

1566
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,640
We just have to. 
No one knows the time or place, 

1567
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,760
but we just have to always, 
yeah, watch and be prepared. 

1568
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,920
Like, if you're always prepared 
and you always watch, you really

1569
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,880
don't have anything to really 
worry about. 

1570
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,760
Just develop your relationship 
with God and keep it there. 

1571
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,360
That's it. 
And enrich it and feed it. 

1572
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,360
And if you do all those things, 
really, this isn't as scary as 

1573
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,440
one might think. 
I mean, it is, but it isn't. 

1574
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,800
We're not supposed to worry. 
We're not supposed to. 

1575
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,800
No. 
No, girls don't. 

1576
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,840
Yeah. 
Just skip to the end. 

1577
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,080
Go. 
If you're worried, go to chapter

1578
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,600
19. 
To the end, you'll find out. 

1579
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,320
Spoiler alert. 
Jesus. 

1580
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,440
Spoiler alert. 
Yeah, well, I appreciate this. 

1581
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:38,400
Would you like to close this out
in a prayer? 

1582
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,200
Absolutely. 
I would love to, yeah. 

1583
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,560
I would love that. 
Sure, Father in heaven, thank 

1584
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,440
you so much, Lord, for this 
time. 

1585
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:50,800
Thank you God, for such a time 
as this Lord, that you have 

1586
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,160
blessed Heidi. 
You've blessed myself. 

1587
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,880
You've given us this privilege 
and honor to be able to go, to 

1588
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:01,400
use technology for good, to use 
technology for your glory, to 

1589
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,360
use technology for your word, to
share it. 

1590
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,600
And we don't know who and what 
countries, whether it could be 

1591
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,560
Zimbabwe, whether it's India, 
whether it's Ireland, There are 

1592
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,600
people all over who can hear 
this or it could be right down 

1593
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,560
the street from us in Utah and 
Texas who are hearing your word.

1594
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:22,160
Lord, and I, we pray, I pray God
for you this, this episode, to 

1595
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,400
bless all the people who are 
listening to this, who are under

1596
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,680
the sound of our voices. 
Lord, I pray that you bless them

1597
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,080
with your truth, with your love.
And if they don't know you, if 

1598
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,920
they don't trust you yet, I pray
that this is move them to 

1599
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,280
believe and see that everything 
that's happening in the world 

1600
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:42,680
was written by you, God. 
In 96 AD, the Apostle John was 

1601
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,080
predicting this technology 
that's only been available in 

1602
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,960
the past decade. 
He wrote it in the 1st century, 

1603
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,200
Lord, because he was given 
divine inspiration from you, 

1604
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,760
Lord. 
And I pray that people believe 

1605
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,200
your word. 
They will trust in our Savior 

1606
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,960
Jesus Christ, who died for their
sin, to take their punishment 

1607
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,880
and believe upon you, Lord, and 
that this will just be a 

1608
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,560
blessing to just everyone who 
hears it will be. 

1609
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,120
And if it's not for salvation, 
it will be a little bit of water

1610
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,320
on that seed to give them more 
growth, to bring them closer to 

1611
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,840
you in your time. 
Father and I thank you for 

1612
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,000
Heidi. 
Lord, I thank you for the 

1613
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,440
amazing story, for the amazing 
path and journey and mission 

1614
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,440
you've given her. 
Bless her, strengthen her, keep 

1615
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:24,280
her close to you. 
Protect her and her family from 

1616
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,920
the enemy, from the darts of the
of the Adversary. 

1617
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,680
Lord, And keep her strong in the
faith in this walk. 

1618
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,120
Lord, Because once you step out 
and put your name in the 

1619
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,400
airwaves, Lord, we know the 
enemy is going to come to her 

1620
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,480
after me and after our families 
and loved ones. 

1621
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:41,080
Well, Lord, so continue to bless
her and enrich her. 

1622
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,360
And let us have many, many more 
programs for years to come until

1623
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,120
you come, God, we ask for all 
this in the mighty, precious and

1624
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,120
most glorious name of our 
Savior, Jesus Christ. 

1625
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,920
Amen. 
Amen. 

1626
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,600
That was beautiful. 
And will you remind our guests 

1627
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,600
where they can find you and all 
your work again? 

1628
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:02,400
Absolutely. 
So my my website is judgement of

1629
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,240
the nephilim.com one word and 
you can find the books there. 

1630
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,360
My documentaries, the study 
guide, it's all there. 

1631
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:15,560
Additionally, my Facebook, my 
Instagram and my YouTube channel

1632
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,560
are all judgement of the 
Nephilim one word. 

1633
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,000
And also, I never mentioned 
this, but my my documentaries 

1634
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,320
are available also on Vimeo. 
On my channel there is Judging 

1635
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,040
on the Nephilim. 
You can find the documentaries 

1636
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,320
there as well, but I have lots 
of great free content on my 

1637
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,760
YouTube channel as well. 
There's lots of this 27 part 

1638
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,560
series, The Nephilim, My 
Thursday night theology show I 

1639
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,360
did for most of the last year 
and a half or so. 

1640
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,720
There's lots of great content 
out there, so feel free to reach

1641
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,160
out to me if you have questions,
Especially if you have questions

1642
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,000
about Revelation being literal, 
e-mail me. 

1643
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,280
I'm happy to talk to you about 
it. 

1644
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,240
Amazing. 
Well, I appreciate all your work

1645
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,640
and your heart and everything 
that you've just given it over 

1646
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,840
and let it go and really gone 
through and put it, put it to 

1647
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,560
work. 
So I know that it helps people 

1648
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,720
and I know it's helped me. 
So I appreciate that. 

1649
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,200
Thank you so much. 
Thank you. 

1650
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,200
Have a good night.