1 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:21,030 Without faith, without belief in something, what are we? 2 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:31,030 You know, the hardest thing is to listen, to hear his voice, 3 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,080 God's fires. It's a leap of faith. 4 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,880 I would rather stand with God and be judged by the world than 5 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,120 stand with the. World and be judged by God. 6 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Welcome back to another episode of Christian Conspiracy 7 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Coalition, a place where the best minds in the conspiracy 8 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,920 realm gather to share and discuss their faith, 9 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,680 Christianity and the spiritual war thrust upon humanity. 10 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,240 John, 38 states the one who does what is sinful is of the devil 11 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,080 because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. 12 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,000 The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the 13 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Devil's work, and that is what brings us here today. 14 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 We're all sons and daughters of God, and it's our duty to 15 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 destroy the devil's work here in the physical realm. 16 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,800 I couldn't be prouder to stand side by side of my fellow 17 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,480 coalition members in this spiritual war. 18 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,320 So let us welcome tonight's coalition. 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 First up, Heidi Love from the Unfiltered Rise podcast. 20 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Welcome, Heidi. Thank you. 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Thank you for having me back. Even though I'm the 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,400 troublemaker, I'm happy to be here. 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,840 I'm just kidding. Hey, anyone that just draws 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,840 attention away from my troublemaking is always a good 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,560 thing. Always, always great to have a 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,080 scapegoat. Especially if they're a Mormon 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,920 or X Mormon. And and I don't have Elon Musk 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,480 after me yet, so I mean. No, that's right. 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,000 I've got a bigger target I suppose. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Next up. Yes. 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,320 I have an X on me, quite literally. 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Next up we have Christopher and Jason of Operation Red Pill. 33 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Welcome back fellas. Thanks, Drew. 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 It's good to be here. No worries. 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 And Jason is there. Unfortunately, he can't see him. 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 He's having some video issues, but as you guys know, this is 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 predominantly an audio podcast, so it's not an issue. 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,080 We'll still get his lovely baritone voice and he's going to 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,960 contribute as much as he possibly can. 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,160 I know it. And for his very first 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,120 appearance, Brandon Crowell, Welcome Brandon. 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Hey, thanks for having me on. No problem mate. 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Natural that you would find your way into this little group after 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,040 our previous discussion and the work that you've been doing. 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,120 So you are more than welcome, my friend. 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Appreciate that. Thank you. 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,880 No problem. All right, gentlemen and lady, 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,840 in light of tonight's conversation, I need to read 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,560 from you Sun Tzu's Art of War within which he famously said if 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,560 you know the enemy, know yourself. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,400 You need not fear the result of 100 battles. 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,000 If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained, 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,640 you'll also suffer a defeat. If you know neither your enemy 54 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,240 nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,800 With this in mind, we have tonight's topics that we are 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,720 discussing. First up, how much power does 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Lucifer really have and how does he wield this control over 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,960 humanity? Secondly, does Lucifer know he 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,720 will lose this spiritual war? And to finish the show off, is 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,120 there a greater evil sitting above Lucifer to get us started? 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,720 John 519 states we know that we are children of God and that the 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,720 whole world is under the control of the one evil Lucifer. 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,160 But what does this mean? How far does this control truly 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,880 go? How much of his power is 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,040 extended into the heavenly and spiritual realm? 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Or does it just reside within the earth in which we live? 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Who would like to get started on this little chestnut of a 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,840 conversation? I guess I could start. 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Yeah. There you go. 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,040 So it was really interesting in in looking at you know how much 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,440 power he has because it's not something that we even ask 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,840 ourselves that often, right. The kind of put parameters on 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,280 him. So you know he's the he's the 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,080 fallen cherub, he's the one that had said the five I wills he, 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,080 his wisdom was perfect until, you know, pride was found in him 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,160 or iniquity was found in him. And then he was a merchant who 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,279 because of the success of his trade was led into violence. 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,080 So it's it's kind of interesting, but I think Dan 79 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Duvall touches on this a little bit. 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,920 But he suggests that it's possible that Lucifer isn't 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:34,920 actually the most powerful of celestial beings that exist, but 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:40,080 he has kind of legal rights over a bunch of other entities, 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,360 whether it be from trading or, you know, deceit like we see 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,680 happen in the Garden of Eden. Because he never, you know, 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,800 forced himself on Eve. He was just able to kind of 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 influence her. And and I guess that that could 87 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,520 be considered a type of power. But it had me going through like 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,040 all these scriptures to figure out, you know, like what what is 89 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,520 the Kingdom of darkness look like? 90 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Like how is it structured? Because Second Corinthians 4 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,960 four said that you know Satan's the God of this world and then 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,120 you know, we go to Ephesians 612 and it talks about the fact that 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,720 we fight against rulers and powers and spiritual forces of 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,840 wickedness in heavenly places. So those, I mean, if we're, if 95 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,160 we're trying to build a case, those would be underneath him, 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,960 right? If Satan was the God of this 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,920 world that all of those, that that hierarchy would sit 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:36,960 underneath his his leadership. And then I went to Luke 4 where 99 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Satan is is tempting Jesus, Neo says I I think I have it right 100 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,080 here. It says. 101 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Then the devil taking him up on a high mountain showed him all 102 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 the kingdoms of the world in a moment. 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,240 And Satan says to him, I will give you all this domain and its 104 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,640 glory, for it has been handed over to me and I give it to 105 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 whoever I wish. And what jumped out to me when I 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,040 read it this time is he only has it because it was handed over to 107 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,560 him. So I wonder if that's really 108 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,760 where a lot of his is, quote UN quote, power comes from. 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Because you know, we don't see continents exploding and you 110 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 know this this massive show of force that you would expect from 111 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,520 a, you know quote UN quote powerful celestial being. 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,840 But I think choice after choice, contract after contract, trade 113 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,800 after trade, when we choose to do things his way and not our 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,880 own way, we hand over bits and pieces to him. 115 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,880 And I don't know if you would call that power or influence, 116 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,000 but I think that's makes up a bulk of what gives him or what 117 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,400 makes him so dangerous to us. We also have to remember that 118 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,680 he's an Archangel as well. He's God's most beloved son of 119 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,600 the heavenly realm who whatever reason turned his back on God 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 and rebelled. But a lot of people don't 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,680 realize, or they neglect to to notice that when we talk about 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,320 the devil, evil, whatever this entity is, people often say Abel 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,240 cannot create, it can only defile and twist what's already 124 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,960 in existence. Lucifer's brother Michael had 125 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,880 the power, has the power of creation, who are lesser extent 126 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,640 to what God does. So if you look at Lucifer as 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,680 merely a musician of the heavens, what do musicians have? 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,520 They have creativity. They have the abundance to 129 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 create beautiful music, Musical transcripts they can create 130 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 through that element. So I think that we often forget 131 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,280 that maybe Lucifer does have the ability to create and in my mind 132 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 I think that what we see today and especially in the 21st 133 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,560 century is the entertainment industry. 134 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,360 How much of the of the entertainment industry is 135 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,440 influenced and Co opted and and used as a viable weapon against 136 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,720 us in the spiritual war. And it's interesting that you 137 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,360 mentioned Jason that, oh, Christopher, sorry that we're 138 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,320 not seeing these huge events of destruction when archangels, all 139 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,640 archangels according to scripture, have the ability to 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,920 smite. But then it comes back to the 141 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,400 idea of, well, how much power is God allowing Lucifer to have on 142 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Earth because it was gifted to Earth, was gifted to him. 143 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 How much of the powers is he allowing him to wield? 144 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,200 And that becomes a bigger part of the question itself. 145 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,280 OK, tap under. Point go for it, yeah. 146 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,320 So. I I would have to agree a lot 147 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,200 with what Christopher just relayed. 148 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,120 I would lean into Enoch only for the reason because it would make 149 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:47,160 sense that I buy the story that when Cain did his sacrifice, he 150 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,920 basically was kind of ticked at God saying, OK, now I got this 151 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,120 mark on my forehead. I will be willing to sacrifice 152 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,200 to any celestial beings up there if you come down and give me 153 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,480 knowledge of how to go to war against heaven. 154 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,040 So they come down atop of Mount Hermon. 155 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Again, it's coordinates is the 33 degree parallel. 156 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,080 This is why there's 33° in Freemasonry. 157 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,480 And this is where the origins of the Nephilim started, is that 158 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,720 they they said I'm going to give up my celestial body or title 159 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,000 and I'm going to come down here and rather have procreation and 160 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,520 then they have their own kids. So I think one thing we have to 161 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,600 bear in mind is just like as mankind has the ability for free 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,720 will, there is also free will in the celestial heavens. 163 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:36,080 And I think there's there's realms and there's tears that 164 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,320 God allows and permits. And again, so when you're saying 165 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,880 why does God allow that, well, let's go back to Genesis 64. 166 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,200 They're called the sons of God. Sons of God came down and later 167 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,240 on like I was explaining on Cryptid warfare and Josh Monday 168 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,880 is that later on we get in the New Testament, Behold when men 169 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,880 are the love of the Father, that we Christians should be called 170 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,400 the sons of God. I have a very strong suspicion 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,640 that Christians, now that Christ has come down here is that we're 172 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,560 going to have access to take over where they failed. 173 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,880 So they proved they were showing they were holding the torch for 174 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 me. Whereas every these other ones 175 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,600 wanted to fall and take pleasure. 176 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,440 They wanted the existence of a temporary existence. 177 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,520 So I think God allows and permits the spiritual warfare 178 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,440 with like control the elements and the controls of the minds 179 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,600 and the hearts of men. And this is where we see with 180 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 like Job, where the plagues hit him and then you again you when 181 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 they were stealing his flock. So you had the hearts and minds 182 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,000 of men to influence them to go in that territory and take Job's 183 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,800 possessions. But I think the biggest thing is 184 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,840 like you were saying, he's he's a magician and that would tap 185 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,400 into alchemy with Hermes and the occult's Messiah. 186 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 And for the rest of you guys, I I delve into Nimrod's religion, 187 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,000 I kind of figured out who the occult Messiah is based off of 188 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,520 digging into the symbolism. And they are in love with 189 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,080 alchemy. They want the signs of the 190 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,160 heavens like it's spoken of in Jeremiah 10. 191 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Two. They look to the stars. 192 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,440 It's a star based religion. Even the whole concepts where we 193 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,880 get Dome earth like when they say astronaut. 194 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Think about that word for a second if you broke it down. 195 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Etymology wise Astro meaning of star not as a nautical water. 196 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,200 Angels were known as star walkers. 197 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,920 They walked on water. Luke Skywalker, that's where 198 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,480 that's influenced from. When Christ came down here, he 199 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,200 was walking on water. He was walking over the spirits 200 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,600 of the fallen. Nephilim, another son of God, 201 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,120 sons of God. So there's very powerful 202 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,040 symbolism. And I think the occult is 203 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,360 looking as, oh, we have this knowledge from heaven with this 204 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,760 alchemy that we can turn liquid into gold that we don't have to 205 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,520 worry on creator God. And that's where you get the 206 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,240 phrase that's actually a herma's phrase, not Baphomet, but their 207 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,120 equivalents. Because as above, so below I am 208 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,800 the highest achievement of mankind that we'll ever will be. 209 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,240 And they've kind of manipulating the world to have this 210 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Antichrist perspective and mindset that that's honestly 211 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,040 what Lucifer thinks about, is that I can become or ascend to 212 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,800 become like the God Most High that makes any sense. 213 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,800 You know, It's a lot to unpack. No, I think it does. 214 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,360 I I think one of the things that I I find interesting is that you 215 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,880 don't necessarily have to be the muscle in the room if you're the 216 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 brains. Yes, right. 217 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,720 Yes, you can have a tremendous amount of power. 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,800 But if we get into this nuanced idea of what do we mean power, 219 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,000 you know, are you the guy that shows up like The rock? 220 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,400 Talk about can you smell what Lucifer is cooking? 221 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,280 You know, finally Lucifer has come back to having to rule. 222 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Are you that dude or are you like Vince McMahon sitting back, 223 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,040 you know, pulling strings, having contractual, legal pull 224 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,360 where you don't necessarily have to go through as in being 225 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,200 powerful in the forceful sense, but you can be powerful in a 226 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,680 legal sense. I think that Scripture presents 227 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:21,840 a both and scenario, but I think our culture has morphed it into 228 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,520 a supernatural force type of of power and I don't think that's 229 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,680 the type of power that Lucifer really has. 230 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,080 I think most of it is, as I think Christopher was alluding 231 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,640 to, more contractually driven through the trade. 232 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,320 I think he's incredibly intelligent in a very demented 233 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,080 way. And I think that being a, as the 234 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,200 scripture says, being the the chief or the the anointed cherub 235 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,480 that covered in that position, I think there was a lot that he 236 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,520 saw and a lot that he put together. 237 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,080 And I think he he exploited that to his own selfish ambition and 238 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,520 his own selfish means. But I don't think that 239 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,560 necessarily makes him the most powerful in the. 240 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,200 I hate to bring Disney into it, but in, you know, that classic 241 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Aladdin scene, you know, I have all cosmic power. 242 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,680 I think it's kind of, you know, what we imagine when we asked 243 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,560 the question. And I think he's got a 244 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,400 tremendous amount of influence, but I love what Chuck Missler 245 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,640 said and I try to constantly remember this as as wide as we 246 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,920 can imagine our reality. I think the one thing we have to 247 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,640 remember is that we live in a bounded reality on both ends on 248 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,760 the, on the on the macro side and on the the micro side. 249 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,360 And I think the same is is I think it's a universal principle 250 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,160 that is extrapolated out through God's entire creative order. 251 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,640 So even if Lucifer is extremely powerful, or Satan, if he's 252 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,360 extremely powerful, he's still bounded. 253 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,880 And what does that bounded power look like when it's measured 254 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,080 against unbounded power of the creator God? 255 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 It's really weird dynamic because I think we're looking at 256 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,640 it from our perspective, every Angel we meet. 257 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,920 I don't know if any of y'all have met any. 258 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,720 I have not personally, haven't cracked any eggs and saw any 259 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Angel show up next to me, because I think I'll probably 260 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,880 shoot one. I don't know how that's going to 261 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,760 go, but I imagine you met 1 Drew. 262 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,280 I've seen one at Tammy White. It turns to what you were black. 263 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Before I was so scared at Tammy White. 264 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Oh, that type of white. I was like, OK, I didn't know 265 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 you started out like me. And then after your Angel 266 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,240 experience, you was no longer like me. 267 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Honestly, we'll talk about that offline. 268 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Became like Noah. He became like Noah after, 269 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,160 right? Right. 270 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,640 Drew Drew lost his shine after 41 days up there. 40 days it was 271 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,520 bright, 41 it was off. But no, you could meet the 272 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,640 lowest ranking Angel as a human being and they're going to be 273 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,400 considered immensely powerful in comparison to us. 274 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,320 So we don't even have like an Angel scale to measure when 275 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,560 we're talking about like, how powerful is he? 276 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,240 I don't, I don't know. I don't know what the 277 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,600 incremental levels are. But if we're talking about all 278 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,280 power, he it's not even a dot on the spectrum when it's compared 279 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,520 to God. And if he was, I think that we 280 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,160 might not be here. But I think the reason that we 281 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,120 are here is because, again, we live in a bounded reality. 282 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,320 There is only so much authority or influence or quote UN quote 283 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,400 power that the enemy seems to be able to have. 284 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,200 A scripture speaks to that. Right now, Evil's not able to 285 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,200 run unrestricted. There is a restrainer that is 286 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,600 operating. There are universal laws that 287 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 are in place that do not allow evil to run, certainly 288 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 unmolested on its way. Now there's a time coming where 289 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 that will happen and it will. Unfortunately, it's going to 290 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,160 destroy everything until Christ steps back in, because that's 291 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,920 the nature of evil. It's a weird question to ask and 292 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:04,040 I think we almost do ourself an injustice when we ask it the the 293 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,880 direction, it's almost like a funnel. 294 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,200 I think when we ask the question we're at the small end of the 295 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,160 funnel looking outgoing. How powerful is it? 296 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,280 And I think the better one is if we reversed that and we looked 297 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,760 at all power and we're zooming in on this, this this Angel that 298 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,119 has a small amount of it, he doesn't really have a corner on 299 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,119 the market when it comes to cosmic power. 300 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,160 Our God does. And so whatever power he has, as 301 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,680 he, as he mentions it, may be from a human perspective, it is 302 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,800 truly limited. And I think he knows that, which 303 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,640 is why the contracts are so important. 304 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,560 The contracts help create a force multiplier so that he 305 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,560 comes across as being immensely powerful. 306 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,080 I think that's the whole point of the Satan and the control 307 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,720 matrix. Because he's not sovereign, he 308 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,440 has to try to replicate that whole attribute of of the 309 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Godhead. Even when he came up to Christ 310 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,960 when Christ was on, was on the planet. 311 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,960 You kind of have this Messiah like essence about you dude. 312 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,800 I'm not quite certain you giving off this this Messiah vibe, but 313 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,760 if you really were, I got to put you through some tests. 314 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,280 We need to run some experiments. I need to see if you really are 315 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,400 this Messiah. I mean, a thorn in my flesh 316 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 right now, but I need to know if you, that person I've been 317 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,200 hearing about. Well, if you was all powerful 318 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,320 dude, you would have known. You wouldn't have had to go 319 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,880 through the tricks. You would have known by the 320 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,160 trade who you were dealing with. In fact, scripture even says if 321 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Lucifer had known what he was doing, he wouldn't even 322 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,200 crucified Christ. So it again gives an indication 323 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,280 that his power is limited. Even when he went to God, the 324 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,880 only thing he could do to get the thing with Job happening was 325 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 to get God into AAI don't want to say semantical, but a 326 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,760 philosophical discussion. You know, he couldn't just 327 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,280 necessarily go touch Job. He had to challenge God. 328 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Like, OK, look, God, if you did this, I'm quite sure he's going 329 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,440 to do this. We'll test out your theory, but 330 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,360 why not actually go and do what you wanted to do to Job in the 331 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:09,400 1st place? You couldn't. 332 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,520 You had to go get permission. It shows again that you're 333 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,880 limited in power, and that they're only even in that 334 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,440 exchange. The only real power that Lucifer 335 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,520 would have had would have been missteps on Job's part, which 336 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,040 were created legal loopholes that he could exploit. 337 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,000 This talks to the intelligence that that Lucifer, the devil, 338 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,240 whatever kind of nomenclature you want to go with on this 339 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,880 darker side of things, the true intelligence and the power that 340 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,920 he he wields. Because if you look at the idea 341 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,120 of the fallen ones, those were God like entities. 342 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:47,480 So much so that they created the idea of these Pagan gods across 343 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 the ancient world. Their sons became the men of 344 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 renowned the demigods, the the Hercules, the Jason, the 345 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,640 Argonaut type of stories. They had unimaginable power 346 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,880 compared to humans. So even though they are possibly 347 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,520 5/10/15 steps removed from God's ultimate creator power, they are 348 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,920 still something I don't think we can truly underestimate, but. 349 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Lucifer has he, I think he's got this ability where he's he's 350 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,320 very suave, he's sophisticated, he's debonair, he's all these 351 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,240 things that I think are more dangerous than what you would 352 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,720 have for the stereotypical Disney bear guy, which is all 353 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520 powerful and destructive. When it comes back to those 354 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,240 ideas of contracts. Could you possibly imagine, just 355 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,040 go through this thought process with new people? 356 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,560 What if the devil put a contract into the terms and conditions of 357 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,240 everyone's Apple iPad or the Netflix account? 358 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Because who? Honestly reads those terms and 359 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,000 conditions. What if it's all the way 360 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,640 through, some hidden away that yeah, your immortal soul goes to 361 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400 the to Lucifer in the end. Imagine if those are the types 362 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,880 of contracts this guy's tricking people on in the modern day. 363 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,280 He doesn't need to be an old powerful demigod on top of a 364 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,040 mountain throwing lightning bolts, he's just using modern 365 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,000 day entertainment. I liked the quote by Paul J 366 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,120 Bucknell in The Devil and His Powers this book. 367 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,720 He said he has his own power by virtue of how God made him. 368 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,720 Satan was the Angel with the highest power and beauty, but he 369 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,800 also has stolen power over man and earth originally given to 370 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,440 Adam. And so that's important because 371 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760 we look at that. It's not it's not legal right 372 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 per se. God allowed it still, but it 373 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320 wasn't what it was supposed to be. 374 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,320 And so it does say we have to remember he's maybe perfectly 375 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,440 made highest position, very beautiful, super wise, but he's 376 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,800 also self deceived about his own wisdom and beauty, therefore 377 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,360 giving him the little bit of that Achilles heel that we can 378 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 get through to. Not that he doesn't deceive, I'm 379 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,880 not saying that for sure he does. 380 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,440 And talking to the ex Satanist that I did when I had Zachary 381 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,520 King on, he is the one that signed many of the deals for 382 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,160 these musicians that we talk about back in the day. 383 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,640 And he said, of course they don't read that, find Netflix, 384 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,440 print. They didn't care, not in that 385 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,720 moment. Yeah, so. 386 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it works that way. 387 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,880 You know, the the spiritual realm appears to be very very 388 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,800 specific and legalistic, and so I I would not be surprised if 389 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,040 there are. You got to look at the real fine 390 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,640 fine print. Not the one that's written ink, 391 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,760 the one that's written in blood. Check that fine print out and 392 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,680 then. Make sure that you. 393 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,800 That you are right with that. I really like how you tapped 394 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,920 into that, Jason. That's the Lamb's book of life 395 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,640 and the the the rules that are being played. 396 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,920 I really like how you brought the legality aspects to it 397 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,800 because I think that's something especially, yeah, of course I 398 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760 especially with spiritual warfare. 399 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,440 I think I had somebody ask me today like if I believe in the 400 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Rapture. I said no. 401 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,640 And I'm only stating that because of Revelation 6 for the 402 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,960 heads of the Saints and two, the Antichrist makes war against the 403 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,840 Saints at some point. And I think this is where it 404 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,400 taps into also the sleeping bridesmaids at some certain 405 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,840 point. Because, like I always use the 406 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,920 analogy you, you have God's word, which is the lamp unto 407 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,560 your feet as it states in the Psalms. 408 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800 But a lot of people don't understand what the Holy Spirit 409 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,640 is. And so they tap into this 410 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,080 rapture extraction thing and they're like, well, I get out 411 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,440 before it gets really bad because I got a void pre, you 412 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,600 know, tribulation voucher here. And then I think that puts a bit 413 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,240 of a a, a dampener upon our spiritual warfare and how 414 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,840 adamant we should be and how vocal we should be, how we 415 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,800 should be standing like a Daniel or Meshach and Abednego and 416 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,320 whatnot when we are going up against our governments because 417 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,280 we just say, well, it's not, I'm going to get out before it gets 418 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,480 really bad. I tried to bring that person to 419 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,040 church. It's not my fault they didn't 420 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480 listen to the pastor. And it's taking away the 421 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,280 individuality of getting down and washing feet ourselves. 422 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,360 And we're supposed to be emulating Christ, not 423 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,120 necessarily all the disciples, but Christ himself. 424 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,200 We have all these analogies, parables and stories not 425 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,680 everybody's going to understand. That's why he says it in 426 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,320 parables. You have the Holy Spirit in you. 427 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,400 That's not a discernment. That is the oil in your lamp. 428 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,280 And a lot of sleeping bridesmaids don't understand 429 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,640 this concept because they're throwing their responsibilities, 430 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,920 they're putting everything, they're putting all their chips 431 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,960 on the Rapture as opposed to taking responsibility 432 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,680 themselves. And I think this would tap into 433 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,360 it. Like Jason saying, you 434 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,400 eventually get to heaven and you're the servant that wasn't 435 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280 using any of your talents, you buried it. 436 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,400 Everybody else tried to at least do something with what I gave 437 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,840 them as best they could, and you hid it. 438 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Get out. Depart from me. 439 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,240 I never knew you. It's very scary because he's not 440 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280 saying that phrase of a bunch of atheists. 441 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,720 He's saying it to people that are allegedly calling themselves 442 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Christians. And personally, I would like to 443 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,280 classify some individuals that aren't waking up. 444 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,320 They're not seeing it. They're putting so much emphasis 445 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,040 on a Holy Land and a holy people that they're not seeing. 446 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,880 You are the new temple. When that veil is ripped in two, 447 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,320 you're now indwelled. Go forth, be that temple. 448 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,920 Bring it. Go on the road like Christ did. 449 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,640 And a lot of us are. A lot of them. 450 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,760 They're just, I'm a cubicle Christianity. 451 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,160 I don't need to go out and do anything. 452 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,400 I'm I'm happy right where I'm at. 453 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Brandon, would you say by extension, if we're going down 454 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,400 the idea, this legalese and the contracts that exist within the 455 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,440 realm of what Lucifer can and can't do, what lines he cans 456 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,920 step over, which he can't where, which lines he straddles and 457 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,320 kind of pushes the boundaries? Would you say that people in our 458 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,480 faith a lot of the time feel like they're waiting for like 459 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,160 the heavenly police force to intervene if if one of these 460 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,080 contracts is pushed or something is deemed illegal according to 461 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,320 spiritual contract, that we're awaiting something more divine 462 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,760 than us to intervene on our behalf. 463 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 When really, if we're living as Jesus did, we can push back and 464 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,520 we can challenge ourselves. I would say, I would say to an 465 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,080 extent, I know I had one lady under a YouTube thing and I was 466 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,440 saying that I didn't believe in the Rapture. 467 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480 And she says, well, you're then you're going to be going to hell 468 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,320 and you're going to be experiencing the tribulation. 469 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920 And I was like, well, I would hope for a rapture, but I'm not 470 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,120 putting my faith in the rapture. I still have faith in Christ's 471 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:37,960 son and God himself. And I think some individuals are 472 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,040 somehow putting the promises of Scripture like they're they're 473 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,640 tainting it to make you feel comfortable. 474 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,560 They're they're dumbing it down. They're becoming lukewarm and 475 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,440 God and Christ, Christ and God. They're they're saying no. 476 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,280 I need you to be adamant in the faith. 477 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320 I need you to be, as you know, like a lion roaring back at the 478 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,280 lion that's seeking to devour the sheep. 479 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,240 We're meant and called to lead. We're meant to get down and help 480 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080 our fellow brothers and sisters like I. 481 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,120 If I could use this analogy as well. 482 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,200 That's one of my life verses is Luke 2232 is right after I 483 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,280 believe he says the phrase upon this rock. 484 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120 He's pointing at Herman where it all happened, where people are 485 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:22,600 now looking to a celestial rebellion mindset because upon 486 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,440 that rock I'm going to build my church and then he, you know, 487 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,440 get behind me Satan, he says to Peter. 488 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,240 Then he says, but I have prayed for you, Peter, that Satan 489 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,040 desires to sift you like wheat, but when you are ready, 490 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,160 strengthen the brethren and then we get what do we get Later on, 491 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,240 he he denies Christ three times. Fast forward a little bit more 492 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,880 and he says, feed my sheep, feed my sheep, feed my sheep three 493 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,720 times to him says, you're ready now, buddy. 494 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,360 I know you had a little moment or is getting a little bit, you 495 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,200 know, hard for you. But now you can go around and 496 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,400 strengthen the sheep yourself. You're ready to fish for men 497 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,720 now, fishermen. And I think that's a metaphor 498 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320 that we're really not seeing and applying in the Christian walk. 499 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,160 I think that's something where we now just like, oh goody to 500 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,520 shoot Jesus and we don't take on the we're supposed to put on the 501 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,240 armor of God because we don't understand what the Holy Spirit 502 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200 is. I think that's honestly where a 503 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,280 lot of people claiming to be Christians are actually infusing 504 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,600 with the synagogue of Satan and they don't even see it. 505 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,400 And I think this is where we have to also understand that 506 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400 what was going on back in his day, he had the Sadducees, the 507 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,000 Pharisees, the bumblebees. Now we got the Catholics, the 508 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,160 Lutheran's, the such, and So's. It's all rebooted. 509 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Old Testament, New Testament. There has to be a reason for the 510 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560 savior to return, because we're getting it all goofed up again, 511 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,960 and only the ones that are. Like if you're not emphasizing 512 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,560 your denomination and your building, you actually might be 513 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,960 starting to emulate Christ. Oh. 514 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,240 This is where it's right. Yeah. 515 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280 This is where Satan he interferes with the transmission 516 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840 of truth. And this is what I say for a 517 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200 lack of a better world, where the huge amounts of 518 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,560 denominations just in Christianity alone we see it in 519 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240 other faiths. But in Christianity, the huge 520 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,120 division across what fundamentally is 1 faith could 521 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,800 very well be construed as the transmission of truth and the 522 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,600 placing of false believers within the church, and the idea 523 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,800 that as Christians, we should live by his example and preach 524 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,440 the truth. But how often are we overcome by 525 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,920 societal norms, how we're perceived by our peers, what's 526 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200 considered to be political correctness? 527 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,560 Things that we know fundamentally are true in our 528 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,360 souls, our hearts, and of God, But we're afraid to. 529 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,640 It's almost like society's being built in this manner, that 530 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Satanic control matrix that Christopher and Jason put so 531 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,480 articularly. It's in there to muddy the 532 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,720 waters, to make truth the mistruth, or just have enough of 533 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720 the truth there to make it palatable for people like these, 534 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080 these weekend Christians who attend to their church, listen 535 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,160 to their pastor, and think they're all done and sorted. 536 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,440 They feel comfortable in that, but they feel uncomfortable in 537 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,600 in respectful challenge and conversations in the real 538 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,320 community. Yeah, I think that's one of the 539 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,080 things that makes the The Lies of Lucifer so dangerous is the 540 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,040 fact that so many of us want to hear them, right. 541 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,360 We want to believe, we want, we want to shed our responsibility. 542 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,960 I think it was Rod Dreher in his book Live Not by Lies, calls it 543 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,120 therapeutic theology, 'cause. We only want it where it feels 544 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200 good. We only want it to relieve our, 545 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440 you know, our pain, our stressors. 546 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,840 And I mean, we see it all through the the mixing of the 547 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160 the Pagan world and our different denominations. 548 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Like, you know, I've heard some people argue that, you know, 549 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Jesus was for socialism because we're supposed to take care of 550 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,440 the poor and the needy, right. But it's it's it's just like you 551 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,040 were saying it's it's not we don't pawn off that 552 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160 responsibility to any other group. 553 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,040 We as individuals have the responsibility to take care of 554 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040 those people. It's not give them the 555 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,360 government's money, it's give them your money, give them your 556 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,720 food. Give them your time. 557 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,080 Give them your love. And then I think that also plays 558 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 into this authority piece because the Bible tells us that 559 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,760 we have been given authority over the works of the enemy. 560 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Why would we be given that authority if we weren't expected 561 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,640 to do something with it? We're not just supposed to sit 562 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,360 back and say the prayer? You know, angels deal with it. 563 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,720 I'm just, you know, I'm going to go to church on Sunday and have 564 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,560 lunch and everything's going to be hunky Dory. 565 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,000 That's where everybody knows why you were given the authority is 566 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,760 so that you can get your heavenly XP points up to a 567 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,960 certain level, so that you can show your friends like, look 568 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,080 what I've got now, I hit the authority 3.6 level, I'm dope. 569 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,680 And then you sit back and look at it. 570 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 That's. Everybody knows that it's. 571 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Not perfect. What is there? 572 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Is there Is there a ranking system? 573 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Gold, frankincense and myrrh And you want to get to the gold 574 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,120 level? I'm. 575 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Trying to get that gold level, you know? 576 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,040 Christopher's on Nephilim, yeah, Christopher's on Nephilim level. 577 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,320 He doesn't have to worry about it. 578 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,560 But, you know, listen, I I wanted to circle back. 579 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,120 I love these conversations, but they're hard because there's 580 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600 like all these little points that you want to go to. 581 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Brandon, I thought you were saying something a moment ago 582 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,320 that was really interesting. Not to get into a a discussion 583 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000 on the Rapture, but one of the things Christopher and I have 584 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,040 talked about several times is even though we are we, we do 585 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,920 endorse the idea of the Rapture. The problem that we've seen many 586 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,400 times with people who endorse it is this escapist idea, which is 587 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240 I don't have to do any work, I don't really have to suffer. 588 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,120 I can escape tribulation, I can escape trial. 589 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,080 I just need to coast through and hit that finish line and then 590 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040 I'm safe. Across the plan, bro. 591 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800 It's it's It's so problematic, Right, Right. 592 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,320 It's so problematic. Now here's what's interesting. 593 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Let's say that the Rapture isn't really what what we've been 594 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680 taught in the West, right? If you, if you ascribe to this 595 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760 escapist idea, you're screwed. You, you really don't help 596 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,000 anybody next to you. You don't take any ground away 597 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600 from the enemy. You're not really a factor 598 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,720 within the spiritual war. You're just sitting, wishing, 599 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400 praying, hoping that you don't. Nobody sees you. 600 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440 That's a problem. But let's say it is true. 601 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840 Let's say if we go back and we look at Scripture, we got at 602 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 least two accounts for people appear to have been raptured. 603 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,360 One is with Enoch, the other is with Elijah. 604 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,840 Both of those dudes was actively involved in one walking with God 605 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,640 and taking spiritual not just authority over their 606 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,040 environments, but they were in direct conflict with the forces 607 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,720 of darkness in their respective operational fields. 608 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480 If the Rapture is true, and these are the two indications we 609 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 got of it, then I think people ought to be functioning from 610 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,920 that perspective, which would nullify the escapist idea. 611 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,200 And that that really if I if so just for a second. 612 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,600 But that's one of the two things. 613 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,239 If I did tap into Rapture it would be those who are actually 614 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,960 awake and then you get the people like in the you know left 615 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,960 behind series he's like I'm the pastor how did I get left behind 616 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,560 Right, right. No, no, you're good. 617 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,760 You're good. This plays in then to our 618 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,800 question of how much power does Lucifer have, because if you 619 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600 take those two accounts just as case studies. 620 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,320 What do we see happening with those two dudes? 621 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,560 We see a lot of conflict, but we see a lot of taking it to the 622 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360 enemy's throat. You got Enoch, who walked with 623 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480 God from just from whatever. I don't know what happened in 624 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,320 that man's life. I don't know what he saw go down 625 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480 for one day. He was just like, yo, this ain't 626 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,760 cutting it. God, I'm going to be with you 627 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,639 24/7 because as as hell is tripping. 628 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Yeah, that's about the 33rd, 1000, baby. 629 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,720 I've seen executed. I just don't think this is the 630 00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:58,200 right way. To go. 631 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,560 Yeah, 33rd 1000. I'm just getting pictures of 632 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080 Enoch in my mind running around like a John Wick type of 633 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400 character back in the day. Spiritually. 634 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Yeah, you're making him look like some kind of secret agent. 635 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,680 I'm just saying, he walked with God like that was the thing that 636 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,360 when he showed up. Is that Enoch? 637 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Hey, you know I walks with God, right? 638 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,400 You best watch what you say, because if you come at me, I 639 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,120 will be no more and neither will you mess with. 640 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,960 Me, bro. Right. 641 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,920 You know what I mean? But you got Enoch, he, he does 642 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,080 what he does. And then you have Elijah. 643 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920 And Elijah's taking it to the prophets of Baal. 644 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,280 He's he's he's messing up Jezebel's thing. 645 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,400 He's there's a lot going on around him that's crazy, 646 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080 especially if you imagine it from a spiritual perspective. 647 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Then let's say we we take Jesus. Jesus shows up on the scene. 648 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:58,840 Everywhere Jesus goes, he he incites problems. 649 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,280 You know, for Dude, this credit is being peaceful. 650 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520 He pisses a lot of people off. Like, a lot. 651 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,320 He's. Just flipping tables, whipping 652 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,120 people. Right. 653 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,760 Like, OK, jury check this out. I often tell people I got ABS 654 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600 and BS right when they ask like what's my degree? 655 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,800 I got ABS and BSI can piss people off pretty easy. 656 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Jesus shows I have. I have never had anybody want to 657 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400 want to stone me. My mom threw a shoe at me and 658 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,840 that's about as close as it came. 659 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,800 Nobody's lined me up. It was like we throwing stones 660 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,000 at this dude for the last three things he said. 661 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,040 That's the level of pissed off at this that Jesus would take 662 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,200 with people when he would start calling people out. 663 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,280 You know, you say somebody is like a brood of Vipers. 664 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,800 First off, I don't know what a brood is, but you're not just 665 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,920 going to call me a snake Jesus like that and say I'm with a 666 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,960 whole bunch of them. That's not right. 667 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640 I don't like that. That's not very Christ. 668 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Like, Lord, he messed with people's technology, right? 669 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,720 He messed with their theology. He messed with the spiritual 670 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,800 forces that were empowering them, and then he dealt with 671 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,800 territorial governmental agencies that were supporting 672 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,720 the spiritual activities of that environment. 673 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,600 That's not nice stuff. That's a lot of of, that's a a 674 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,440 lot of conflict and directed spiritual activity that's 675 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,200 happening against the Kingdom of darkness. 676 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,200 Right. And this is the model that he 677 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,960 said it. Sorry, why did I go through all 678 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480 of this? Well, we're asking the question, 679 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,240 how powerful is Lucifer really? If we follow the footsteps of 680 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,800 what Jesus is showing us, however powerful he may be? 681 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920 And to give it a nutshell answer, I think Lucifer is 682 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600 probably less powerful than we think. 683 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,040 Well, more powerful than we think, but less powerful than he 684 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,720 claims. I think it's probably about 685 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,520 where where it is. But even if that's the case, the 686 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,760 authority and power that that Jesus has given us, which is 687 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,320 vested in him and it's coming from him, is way more 688 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,840 concentrated and impactful on the spiritual spectrum. 689 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:03,880 And Jesus demonstrates this time and time again when he goes in 690 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,360 and upsets the territory of spirits over where he's at. 691 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,720 If we follow that, then we get to do the same thing. 692 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:15,560 So if Satan is really powerful, it's only so much. 693 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360 And we're given quite a bit of authority to respond back. 694 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,800 We get the noisy cricket in the words of Will Smith. 695 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,920 Now, most of us don't want to shoot that one. 696 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480 We want the big gun. So since we don't like shooting 697 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,880 the noisy cricket, we put it down. 698 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,080 Then we don't think we got a lot of power because you never shot 699 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,520 the noisy cricket. Now once you do, there's like, 700 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,240 oh snap, this thing really works. 701 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,200 Oh, snap prayer really works. Oh snap, casting out demons 702 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,760 really work. Wait, demons are real? 703 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160 Yeah, they're real. You know, you really start 704 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,200 seeing, hey, there really is a a strong, concentrated measure of 705 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,760 power that's been afforded to us, and that power grows. 706 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,360 Why? Because part of what humanity 707 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,000 was designed to do was to actually be an outpost for the 708 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920 Kingdom of Heaven and to take the authority that God invested 709 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,200 in US and expanded out into the cosmos to bring about order that 710 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,960 Satan had undid by inducing chaos and to reinstitute the 711 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,520 Kingdom of God throughout the cosmos. 712 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,600 So we must have a fair degree of power at our fingertips and that 713 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,400 spiritual Kingdom must not like us stepping in and messing with 714 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,280 what they're doing. Which makes me think maybe he's 715 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,320 not as powerful as he says. Here's one of the greatest tools 716 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,840 I think he has with us. One is misconception, which he 717 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,120 exploits 2 is fear. I'd almost argue that on a 718 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,480 powerful power level, I think fear is more powerful than 719 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,920 Lucifer is if it fears an entity and you had to measure them out 720 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,080 because it seems like everything we deal with is fear based. 721 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Even God had to say perfect love casts out perfect fear. 722 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640 Wasn't perfect love cast out perfect evil? 723 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,520 Like, what's this thing with fear that we all seem to live by 724 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,600 and get exploited in our lives? I mean to Jason's .2020 would 725 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,840 have never happened if not. Sorry. 726 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,240 You know what I'm saying? Fear seems to be a huge thing 727 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,000 that's exploited almost like I think that might be the muscle 728 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 behind Lucifer. The other thing is death. 729 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,640 Look, well, hang on, Chris, are you going to that? 730 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,520 It's. Interesting then? 731 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,400 Well, no, it was just an interesting idea, You know, if 732 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,560 if that is, you know, like you said, the muscle, then every 733 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,440 time like a good guy shows up, his first response or first 734 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,680 statement to humanity is fear. Not dealing with the muscle 735 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,240 before they give the message. That is crazy. 736 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,880 Huh. That's kind of dope. 737 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,960 I didn't think about that. So it's like you can't lift a 738 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,600 lot of your muscles unless you have your mind. 739 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,880 As Heidi will test definitely with her medical background you 740 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,520 you can't do something and and I think the same would apply in 741 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,720 the metaphoric sense of the spirituality. 742 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200 You don't know what you could be and I'm not saying like a 743 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,720 sentient thing saying spiritually unless you have 744 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,920 Christ and the Holy Spirit you don't understand the power that 745 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,640 you have. If you have the the, the faith 746 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080 of the of the, the grain of a mustard seed, you can move a 747 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,280 mountain. And I think that's something 748 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000 we're not again, we're like, oh, that's a cute story. 749 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,520 We walk out of church because it's just a check box. 750 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,600 It's not something where we're being fed. 751 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200 Now I personally look at church as something like this, where 752 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,680 we're having a conversation or I'm actually being fed. 753 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,160 I'm fueling my tank so I can keep going up down the road. 754 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,160 Doesn't matter about a building, It matters about where two or 755 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,320 more are gathered. And I think a lot of people 756 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,280 aren't tapping into that, you know, so therefore the enemy, 757 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,800 he's taking the lukewarmness. So when we get something like 758 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920 2020, we see the churches tapping into the tax credit 759 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120 churches where they're like, well, we want to be in good 760 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,160 standing with the police in our community and we don't want to 761 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,640 cause a ruckus. And it's just like So why are we 762 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,560 wearing a mask, an emblem of death and fear, when we 763 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:03,200 celebrate a Savior who conquered death by understanding? 764 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,400 I had I had many preachers who said it was Jesus vaccine. 765 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,520 It was given by Jesus. You know that. 766 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,880 That's crazy. I'm going back to the Mormons. 767 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,320 The Mormons told everybody to get it and stood up in their 768 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,400 church and told them and all their children to run right down 769 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,200 and get it and be good Saints. But isn't it ironic? 770 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,440 Isn't isn't it ironic that we had so many people that can't 771 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,200 believe in an A visible God could believe in an invisible 772 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,680 virus and. Breakdown the word. 773 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120 A virus that is only like 3 foot above the. 774 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,320 Ground derailed. Everywhere. 775 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,640 Sit down and rest. Really fine. 776 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200 And even you break down the word of virus. 777 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,920 VIR means a a man in Latin verveer. 778 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840 And then you get us. It's a fear of us. 779 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,280 We're afraid of ourselves. Well, and then we put on masks 780 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,680 and stand 6 feet apart like in the OTO and the OTO rituals. 781 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,560 Let's. Do that. 782 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,000 Well, even then. Even then, breakdown the word 783 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,720 etymology for vaccine, it means of or from a cow. 784 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,720 And you have a certain group that calls us goyim, which means 785 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,640 cattle. Do you understand, folks? 786 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,600 You've been played, you've been hacked. 787 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080 But it only works because we're afraid. 788 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600 Right. Yes, and this whole fear. 789 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840 Thing. Jason, this fear thing you've 790 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,200 tapped into I think is really going to tie back to something I 791 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,480 want to bring up in our last topic of today. 792 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,320 So I'm actually quite excited that you brought that up. 793 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,640 Does anyone else have anything to finish off this topic point 794 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,600 of how much power Lucifer truly has? 795 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600 I think, Jason, you just summed that up really well in your last 796 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,120 statement there. You nailed it. 797 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,560 That's cool, Giroud. Because I got nothing else to 798 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,800 add, man. Chill man. 799 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,200 All right, in closing, in in closing of this one, Lucifer's 800 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160 powers in the heavenly realm and on earth are great and should 801 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,160 not be underestimated. Since his instigation of evil on 802 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680 earth, Satan's had been named the Prince God, or ruler of this 803 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,440 world and realm. He's the enemy of God and truth 804 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,160 and does everything he can to tempt individuals and larger 805 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,600 groups of people he leads the world astray. 806 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Satan accomplishes this by various means, including 807 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,840 appealing to man's pride, interfering in the transmission 808 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,320 of truth, and placing false believers within the church. 809 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680 We must do all we can and be eternally vigilant. 810 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,880 Are they? Are they genuine proportions of 811 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,000 truth within our religion in our faith? 812 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,120 This is where our discernment comes into it. 813 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,320 Even with what we're presented with at our church on weekends 814 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,040 or for family members or friends, we still have to have 815 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,840 that air of discernment in the back of our mind. 816 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,640 What true rings true for us and what rings true of God? 817 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,680 Our next topic Does Lucifer know he actually lose? 818 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,640 This is something that I've kind of seen people sit on the fence 819 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,480 with, or be adamantly opposed. Either way, does Lucifer know 820 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,480 he's going to lose? Are we asking this seemingly 821 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,080 logical question? Does it have to be something 822 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,440 that's a yes or no or an all? If he does know he's going to 823 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,360 lose, why does he persist? Is it out of some form of spot, 824 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,800 a means of destroying and defiling as much of God's 825 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,720 creation as he possibly can while he can? 826 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640 Or does he believe he can possibly truly win this? 827 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,800 And I love that question. All I can hear is, Mr. Anderson, 828 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,400 why do you persist? I think, I think it's so, so, 829 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,040 so, so interesting. A very nuanced question. 830 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,160 Because you can, let's say Lucifer knows he's going to 831 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,880 lose, right? And then you can only get that 832 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,680 from way of Lucifer's, Lucifer's familiarity with the word of God 833 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920 and whatever things have actually been written, as well 834 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,360 as anything that's been spoken in the heavenly realm. 2 angels 835 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,480 that we just haven't heard. Let's say he knows that. 836 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000 That's not the real question. The question is, does he believe 837 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,560 it? Now that's the scary thing 838 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,640 because the other day, you know, God pointed out to me, you do 839 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,080 realize that that Satan and all those demons and all of them, 840 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,880 they know more scripture than you do. 841 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,440 And I was like, wait, wait wait, wait, say what? 842 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880 Oh no, no, they know it. No can quote it to you ad 843 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,000 nauseam. So just knowing it doesn't work 844 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,440 and what's the difference? They don't believe it. 845 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,360 They don't act on it. Belief is super important. 846 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,880 I think he may know what the scripture says. 847 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,040 I don't think he believes it. I think that's half the 848 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,760 contention. I can still win and I also don't 849 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,680 think you can be so self deceived as we're talking about. 850 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,520 And him really walk away thinking you know what, this is 851 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,160 probably the one instance in all of creation that that Yahweh is 852 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,040 telling the truth I am going to lose. 853 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,440 I don't think he believes that. I think he's really working 854 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,360 towards. I got a couple angles right 855 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,440 here. Y'all ain't synched it. 856 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,800 It's about to work. We just got a couple things we 857 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,960 got we got down to 8 people last time and the plan almost worked. 858 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000 Technically God cheated. I'm figuring that's how he gets 859 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,120 the troops riled up. OK, we was almost there. 860 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,120 So we execute this one more again, we going to be OK and we 861 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,200 can win this time. We got the people's helping us. 862 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,440 We've got 5G, we've got the we got the Internet. 863 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,960 We've got all these things man is doing that's going to help us 864 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,040 they're on board. We going to win troops. 865 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,080 I'm imagining he's got to believe it else what are you 866 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000 doing? Like how are you going against 867 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,520 the most? First you'd have to convince 868 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,440 yourself that the most high is not the most high. 869 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,800 You'd have to wake up However you imagine your when you 870 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,720 created, when you were created, and I won't say born. 871 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:40,920 But when you self-awareness, you know you looked around and he 872 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,120 was like, well, I'm a spirit. And then there's this one over 873 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,000 here talking about worship me and he's a spirit. 874 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,400 I don't quite see what the difference is between us. 875 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,560 We both spirits. He just must evolve before me. 876 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,040 Yourself justifies it as he's not the most high, the most 877 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,960 higher, and it's just a deviation of where the level of 878 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,320 height is. There could be that. 879 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,440 But you know, it's funny he said that he didn't want to elevate 880 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,640 his throne to the highest part. He just wanted to be equal. 881 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,400 So I think he realizes there is some limitations again when we 882 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,640 were talking about being bounded. 883 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,000 But I think his claim to everything else is I might not 884 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,840 be as strong as Yahweh, but I'm better than Yahweh because 885 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,720 Yahweh created all of this and it went into chaos and all of 886 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,200 that. But if you follow me, I can 887 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,320 bring some order out of this and we can really evolve and rise up 888 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,760 to be our truest selves. And I think that's what he 889 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,080 believes. Could I tap onto that? 890 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,800 Yeah, yeah. Because the because the Holy 891 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,680 Spirit was hitting me with some stuff as well. 892 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,840 And I I was, I was, I was thinking, yes, to an extent he 893 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,760 does know he's going to lose, but he's a massive cognitive 894 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,160 dissonance. He's in denial, as is most of 895 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,080 his followers on Earth are well, you know, you know what about 896 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,520 God? Oh, I can become like a God if I 897 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,960 just, you know, get a chakra, kundalini, whatever. 898 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,720 Like the spirit thing. Well, it goes back to being 899 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,640 self. It says one of the things in 900 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,280 that list I gave earlier with with the quotes that I gave from 901 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,200 that book, that he is self deceived. 902 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,880 So this is not not a big surprise like he yeah, he 903 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,480 doesn't have. It's like he has no ability to 904 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,000 see what's right in front of him. 905 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,720 You know, it's like Stockholm Syndrome. 906 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,400 He he he's so full of himself in this ideology, he doesn't see 907 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,400 the other side. That's why he hates the 908 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,680 followers of Christ, because they're pointing back to the 909 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,520 Creator. And he's like, well, I want them 910 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,600 to follow me. What what? 911 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,960 What is this deal here? It's the Emperor's New Clothes. 912 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,520 Yeah, right. And This is why. 913 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,880 Sorry Bren, he's a metaphysical manifestation of the ego. 914 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,640 Yes. And I think that why he needed, 915 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,080 he needed Nimrod's son to be his vessel because that's kind of 916 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,760 how Nimrod's son perceived himself as or Hermes whatever 917 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,800 you want to go by with the emerald tablets very full of 918 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,000 himself saying I'm you know I'm basically indwelled with the sun 919 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,520 like you break down the word pyramid, you basically get π 920 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,200 which is fire. So pyromaniac think like that 921 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,280 Ray or Rah which is of the sun and mid in your midst. 922 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,520 So you get basically when you break down the word the fire of 923 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,360 the sun is in your midst and since he saw himself as like you 924 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,960 know I'm just like my dad Nimrod I I am basically Nimrod two 925 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,960 point O. They believe in regeneration 926 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,760 reincarnation hence Christmas trees that's what it they they 927 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,800 believe in the pine cones that's why it looks similar to the the 928 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,680 pineal gland. That's why pine cones were given 929 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,880 out before hearts for Valentine's Day. 930 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,760 They believe this concept that they can get rebooted, whereas 931 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,240 Christ, he's like, you've already seen me like this 932 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,320 before. See, I died, but I came back, 933 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,920 those other guys with this regeneration thing, I just 934 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,600 proved them frauds. So to tap back to what we were 935 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,960 saying is like, I think somehow because of this fear, it's faith 936 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,560 versus fear. And he thinks that if he can 937 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,080 weaponize man, God's most beloved creation, it'll somehow 938 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,800 balance out where he comes from. And I think personally, like he 939 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:17,000 like Jason was saying breakdown, 5G5 is pentagram means God Ram. 940 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,400 So again, God Ram would be equally to Baphomet. 941 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,280 Why do we speculate that it was an apple in the Garden of Eden? 942 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,240 Well, when you cut an apple in half, it ends up having five 943 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,440 points to it. So it's the pentagram sigil of 944 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Astroth, Nimrod's wife. You can look that up in a Google 945 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,840 search. It's not going to just be you'll 946 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,920 find Sigil of Asheroth. This is Nimrod's wife. 947 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,880 So when we have that the sigil of man on Baphomet's forehead, 948 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,440 AKA another variant of Nimrod's son Tammuz, and he's sitting 949 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,360 there with this 5G mentality, is like, is it possible that these 950 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,880 fallen giants like the angels, what they want to do, they want 951 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,280 to give their kids bodies back. So when we see all these 952 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,800 mountains that are frozen and whatnot and Christ says the 953 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,160 phrase, if I did not speak, the rocks would cry out in praise. 954 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,200 Why? Because these fallen giants, 955 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,280 they want their bodies back. But they can't do that now if 956 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,680 you get mommy and daddy let loose from under the river 957 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,520 Euphrates and people are consenting a form, what does 958 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,480 that ultimately do? You create a demonic possession 959 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,840 grid. So now there's giant can be the 960 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,200 giant spirits can be like a Mr. Smith and a matrix. 961 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,720 They can go from one person to the next via you know 5G and 962 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:34,280 what not your cell phone. Where do we get the Internet 963 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,840 from Was from CERN. CERN is an equivalent of Osiris 964 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,680 the God of the underworld or the dead. 965 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,120 And what does Internet mean? Enter of a tomb or corpse net 966 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,080 withheld restrained an animal or a person. 967 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,240 So I think what they're trying to do is that they are focusing 968 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:59,200 still on materialism of this realm, fleshly body. 969 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,760 Whereas Christ is saying, I'm willing to give you their 970 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,320 positions because if you accepted me, you're now the new 971 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,600 adopted sons of God. So you can now get their robes, 972 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,800 you now get their crowns, you now because you held the torch 973 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,640 for the bridegroom's return. So I think that's. 974 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,320 All you just talking too much, man. 975 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:19,960 I I see why you don't get Shadow man. 976 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,720 So. Yeah, you you you just tell all 977 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:27,040 the secrets that's yeah. They not going to like you on 978 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,360 the 5G Internets. They, they. 979 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,280 They. Heidi will attest. 980 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,240 I I I crashed our podcast for 30 minutes. 981 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:37,440 I hit. My We had to finish it on the 982 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,280 phone. We had to finish the podcast via 983 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,440 telephone. It was. 984 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,960 Well, I haven't had any of the technical difficulties I had 985 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,440 today before, so I was blaming Heidi. 986 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,080 I think it's not redirected. That's funny. 987 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,000 It's not me, but. I. 988 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,480 Think it's also interesting. Go ahead. 989 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,440 Go ahead. Sorry, just real quick. 990 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,280 I think it's interesting. What is it second, I think it's 991 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,600 second Timothy 4 that in the end times people will believe the 992 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,400 doctrines of demons. And we hear that a lot and a lot 993 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160 of times it gets, you know, the Christianese that we say it, but 994 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,760 we don't know what it means. But I think that one of the key 995 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,360 takeaways there is that they believe this. 996 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,800 Like, on some level, like, it's their doctrine. 997 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,360 They're not just trying to convince us of something. 998 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,720 They don't believe themselves. They've bought into this, you 999 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,840 know, whether it is that Lucifer can win or, you know, we're 1000 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,440 putting all of our chips on this guy. 1001 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,200 Like they believe it. And that's what they're trying 1002 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,240 to convince us to. Yeah, and I think Lucifer does 1003 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,680 to a fair degree. I mean, what is the point then, 1004 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,800 in trying to invoke so much human participation? 1005 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,280 What's the point in using CERN to breach the divide that God 1006 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,600 has put up in order to allow the spirits that are incarcerated to 1007 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,280 have less, better access to mankind? 1008 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,480 What's the point in getting mankind involved in this 1009 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,000 intergalactic or cosmic battle? Why, if you hate us so much, why 1010 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,200 go through all the effort? You probably hate us, and you 1011 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,440 hate the fact that you need us. What do you need us for? 1012 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,600 Because of what we were created for in the 1st place where your 1013 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,560 access point were. The way that you get to try to 1014 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,960 take back heaven if you can dethrone Jesus, and he already 1015 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,160 proved he can die once, so maybe maybe you can kill him again. 1016 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,640 We're not we're not really sure on this speaking, you know from 1017 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,560 enemy's perspective, I have I'm quite sure Jesus going to win. 1018 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,520 But if you're trying to rally the troops, we might be able to 1019 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,240 to kill him again and then we can install our own God, man. 1020 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,960 We can install the the replacement Christ and since 1021 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,560 there are legalities that are in place under Yahweh's Kingdom, we 1022 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,200 can show that a he's not all powerful because, well, he 1023 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,080 obviously died again and we won that one. 1024 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,280 Or we can make a judicial case against him to suggest that he 1025 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,200 wasn't righteous in the 1st place where he should lose his 1026 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,720 right to rule because he's claiming that he is the only one 1027 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,200 that's righteous and worthy. And if we can create this off, 1028 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,880 you know, this illicit monstrosity life form, then we 1029 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,240 can also claim he's not the only one who can create. 1030 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,960 So then he should lose his claim as a creator guy. 1031 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,680 And so we'll get him on full technicalities across the board. 1032 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,680 We'll set up our own reality. We can dethrone him. 1033 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,960 He doesn't. We don't have to follow his 1034 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,600 rules and we get to win. And I think he genuinely 1035 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,880 believes it because he's got these plans in place trying to 1036 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,920 execute this and he just keeps getting ticked off at all of the 1037 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,480 key points. But scripture does say that he's 1038 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,520 going to get really close. And I think that as he gets 1039 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,280 really close it, it offers what's that word phrase 1040 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000 Christopher uses conformational bias. 1041 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,080 It's this idea that you know what? 1042 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,200 I'm starting to win. So I guess I really can win. 1043 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,120 We'll just keep pressing this, this forward and we're almost 1044 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,120 there. We'll we'll get it. 1045 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,480 I really think that's what he's acting on. 1046 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,680 I mean, to cut you off. Hardy, Heidi, what were we going 1047 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,840 to say? Oh, I was just saying like, of 1048 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,680 course they're going to rally with him. 1049 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,880 The troops will rally because the watchers have no other 1050 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,960 choice and they hate us anyways because in the end days we will 1051 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,920 judge them and they don't like that because we were just made 1052 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,880 out of dirt and they probably think we're this in incompetent 1053 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,280 little brother. That was disgusting and we're 1054 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:26,000 going it says yeah well you know they said we stink John D, as 1055 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,680 you guys well know said that we smell really bad so and so you 1056 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,040 know they have to rally behind him they it's really the only 1057 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,080 hope they have so. I liken it too. 1058 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,360 He's been winning like that, Confirmation bias. 1059 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,320 He's been winning for so long. He's got all his his pawns out 1060 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,720 and play on the chess board and he's about to make this 1061 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,920 Krasinski move. It's going to win the absolute 1062 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,480 game and he's so sure of himself. 1063 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,520 He's so bold, he's so arrogant. He thinks he's got it in the bag 1064 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,200 and all it takes is 1 move from the opposition to topple the 1065 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,800 whole game. And at that point, I often think 1066 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,960 he's like the the younger sibling who is losing at 1067 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,200 Monopoly and they know they're going to lose at last minute, so 1068 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,920 they flip the table, yeah. Yeah. 1069 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,760 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1070 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,840 Yep. So this becomes. 1071 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,320 This becomes another question though. 1072 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,440 Like if the devil knows he's going to lose or has an inkling 1073 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,760 but doesn't believe in in God's going to win at the end is a 1074 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:28,640 greater question than what if if God knows everything that's 1075 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,560 going to happen or has ever happened? 1076 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,440 He knows everything. He's omnipotent. 1077 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,320 Being the creative God. Did he know Lucifer was his most 1078 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280 favorite son that was going to rebel against him? 1079 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,720 If so, why create him in the 1st place? 1080 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,680 Could he not have put something in place that could prevent the 1081 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,560 rebellion or circumvent it in some way? 1082 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,560 Why did he allow it to happen if God knew it was going to occur? 1083 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,000 That's one of those questions that you hate getting asked in 1084 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,400 like, you know, St. Christianity, like real quick. 1085 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,200 If you're God's real, then why did he allow? 1086 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,600 It's a yes or no answer, Jason Quickly 5 seconds 5. 1087 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,880 For the same reason your parents birth, you know, what do you 1088 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,640 talk about? Parents know you guys grew up. 1089 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,200 That was a Cher concert and 1975 XY Falcon. 1090 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,160 That's the reason why. Oh, that's why. 1091 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,520 But but they knew you was going to mess up even in the from the 1092 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,200 1975 Cher Falcon and here you are. 1093 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,240 You know what I mean? I think though from a 1094 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,080 theological perspective I I think that that question is very 1095 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,800 challenging and nuanced. But I think it also has an 1096 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,720 answer that I don't think most of us would like. 1097 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,840 I think one of the biggest reasons for allowing the 1098 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,760 creation of Lucifer in the 1st place, even knowing that he's 1099 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:56,920 going to fall, was one as a spirit that loves your your 1100 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,360 greatest thing is to extend that love out. 1101 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,280 Like God had perfect relationship. 1102 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,280 He wasn't necessarily in need of additional things, but being 1103 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,480 giving as he was, he decided to create other creatures so that 1104 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,560 he could share that love and that perfect relationship with 1105 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,440 them, giving them free will. They did not have to choose. 1106 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,640 Now, knowing that they would choose does not put the 1107 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,800 accountability back on God for creating them. 1108 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,520 It still is a free will decision that that entity makes. 1109 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,600 Therefore the entity is still responsible for what they 1110 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,920 choose. But I also think that there's a 1111 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,400 hidden reason for why allow Lucifer not necessarily just to 1112 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320 be creative, but why allow him to continue. 1113 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,160 But I think that reason is to prove something to all of 1114 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,480 creation that needs to get hammered in. 1115 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,760 And it's the one thing that I think even today, even in the at 1116 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,520 the edge of modernity, we still wrestle with this question that 1117 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,080 is rooted back in antiquity. And that is, whose way is 1118 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,320 better? Like, is it really your way? 1119 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,280 God, how about your way with A twist? 1120 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,520 I mean, Frank Sinatra got it better. 1121 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,720 I think, you know, Jesus was talking about I'll do it your 1122 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720 way, Father, Not my will, but yours be done. 1123 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,800 And Sinatra said, I did it my way, and we all seem to like 1124 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,480 Sinatra's version better than the one in scripture. 1125 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,200 There's something about about free will and about sentient 1126 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,080 beings that have to have that moment where we're willing to 1127 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,920 subject our will to the creator. I think the elect angels have 1128 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,040 decided that they are willing to subject their will to their 1129 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,760 creator, period. And I think the follow ones 1130 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,040 decided we're going to do it our way, and the case is out right 1131 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,160 now. Does doing it your way really 1132 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,360 work? And I think God is allowing. 1133 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,520 I think part of the reason that God is allowing this to go is to 1134 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,120 prove the fact it doesn't work. You get evil gets its chance to 1135 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,960 make its case on the cosmic board in the cosmic courtroom. 1136 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,160 And I think he gets to show. Look at all of these 1137 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,240 infractions, look at all the damage. 1138 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,400 Look at everything that has transpired over the course of 1139 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,920 history. And it all started because one 1140 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,880 creature didn't want to do it my way, didn't want to work with 1141 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,080 me. So for everybody else watching, 1142 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,000 for everybody else to struggle with it, your way doesn't work. 1143 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,360 I'm struggling with that question today, just me 1144 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,640 personally, I got that same question. 1145 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,640 Are you sure? God, because I think if we made 1146 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,600 a left at Albuquerque, we would be a little bit better than what 1147 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,160 we're at right now, you know? And I. 1148 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,320 You almost touched on something. Doing it your way. 1149 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,480 Doing it my way. You forgot that the ancient 1150 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,640 Hebrews did it. Yahweh. 1151 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:53,880 There you go. Well, and ultimately, do you? 1152 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,280 Do you know what's sweet and delicious? 1153 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,680 If all you've ever had is salty and bland or or like, do you do 1154 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,640 you know? Like how would we know what we 1155 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,360 want if we had nothing to compare it to? 1156 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,800 And also what would we need saved for and salvation for if 1157 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,520 we had no, no reason, right? Like, it goes back to that. 1158 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,360 Like there would be no reason for Jesus. 1159 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,120 If we didn't need saving, there would be no there. 1160 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,920 We would not have any of this. And ultimately, just like with 1161 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,480 our kids, you want to have them choose the best things, but you 1162 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,320 also are there for them when they really foul it up. 1163 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,640 I mean it. It's just part of it. 1164 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,040 I ultimately asked that question because it becomes like the time 1165 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,480 traveler paradox. If God had for knowing of all 1166 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,800 the events that were ever going to come from his outcomes, why 1167 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,800 would you do it? I think that's a a position a 1168 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,680 lot of new Christians find themselves in, either those that 1169 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,160 have come back to faith or have found faith for the first time 1170 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,600 in reading it. Why would an all powerful 1171 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,200 omnipotent being allowed to happen in the 1st place? 1172 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,640 And I think that's something that a lot of early Christians, 1173 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,640 even some that are, I mean Christians their whole life, 1174 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,120 sometimes struggle and wrap to wrap their mind around. 1175 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,160 And I don't think we can always have a defined human answer. 1176 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,040 We're trying to understand with their tiny little monkey brains, 1177 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,440 essentially this, what this creator God has done and what 1178 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,280 he's brought about. We can't understand it. 1179 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,160 It's just like when you're a kid and your older siblings playing 1180 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,760 the PlayStation and they've got theirs plugged in and yours 1181 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,400 isn't yours pretending to play along, trying to understand a 1182 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,360 broader thing that you don't quite get. 1183 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,360 All the buttons, yeah, that's, I said. 1184 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,160 That earlier, I think that taps into again with Marvel they're 1185 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,480 always throwing out subconscious and messaging to us with portals 1186 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,600 and then the Eternals and the series What if? 1187 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,880 And I think that's one of the scariest questions that was ever 1188 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:49,080 asked by Lucifer Azazel is he asked that question what if, 1189 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,280 what if I could replace you? What if you didn't exist? 1190 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,520 And I think that's kind of what God wants us to understand. 1191 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,680 And when the metaphoric senses, if you ask that question, you 1192 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,000 don't have the fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of 1193 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,280 wisdom, you're going to ask that question. 1194 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,040 What if I didn't need you? What if there wasn't a creator 1195 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,360 God? And that's why they create this 1196 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,000 whole counter narrative. So at least people bewildered 1197 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,520 and confused, eventually we get to Pontius Pilate and Christ is 1198 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,360 standing before him. This guy has just gone through. 1199 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,720 He was like, he's having a aqueduct issue and in his empire 1200 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,000 he was having issues with a couple of revolts that went on 1201 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,920 and basically Rome's going, Yup, dude, you're on your last 1202 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,160 morning. If you piss us off again, you're 1203 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,920 fired. And he's over here like, OK, so 1204 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,880 now he's getting this issue crisis coming up before him and 1205 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,200 they're learning all all this stuff and he goes, all right 1206 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,880 buddy, you're not speaking. It's like, what is truth? 1207 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,080 Tell me, I I'm honestly want to know at this point because my 1208 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,600 life is on the line. My neck is on the line. 1209 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,360 I want to know He's truth and it's standing right in front of 1210 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160 him and he still can't see it. And it's one of the saddest 1211 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,600 questions of man, because a lot of people don't know this. 1212 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,000 While Christ was crucified, Pontius Pilate ended up offering 1213 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,240 himself. Couple of years later. 1214 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,280 Yeah, didn't. Know. 1215 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,600 That, and this is again, when I was, when I'm, when I was 1216 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,560 tapping into this other metaphor where why did Christ, when he 1217 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,640 was healing that one particular blind man, rub some spit and mud 1218 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,360 and rub it on the guy's eye. Why did he do it in a phase? 1219 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,560 Very intentional. It was a metaphoric thing that 1220 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,880 we're supposed to take away from that. 1221 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:42,120 He goes, what do you see? And like trees walking, OK, so 1222 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,760 let's break that down. What were trees affiliated with? 1223 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,200 Well, let's rewind back to the Garden of Eden. 1224 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,920 It's very highly speculated that the first word out of Adam's 1225 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:58,880 mouth got breathed into him and he went first breath of man. 1226 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,080 Every time you draw a breath you're saying your creator's 1227 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,400 name. Every knee shall bow. 1228 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,080 Every time shall come Jesus Christ this Lord, because you're 1229 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,600 literally saying your creator's name with every breath you take. 1230 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,680 Now let's go over to what the occult believes or what Nimrod 1231 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,280 was going into and how they tapped into all these very in 1232 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,440 deities. Why was there Groves under Ash, 1233 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,400 Roth and Bale? Why was there stars at top of 1234 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,880 the tree and Jeremiah one through 5? 1235 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,680 Because they believed, just like God breathed air into us, that 1236 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,840 trees were a conduit to the celestial realm, so therefore 1237 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,280 that continued life. Because it gives us oxygen, so 1238 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,160 therefore our deity must be in there. 1239 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,880 So they're cutting it down, they're putting in idols, 1240 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,520 they're setting them up and they're praying unto them. 1241 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,640 And God's like, I created the Dang tree, take that thing out 1242 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,600 and they're over here. Like regeneration, 1243 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,200 reincarnation, give us fertility, give us this. 1244 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,440 And God's like, are you serious right now? 1245 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,400 And if you don't want to believe that, well again breakdown one 1246 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,760 through 5 and Jeremiah verse 2 E not like the heathens that look 1247 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,960 to the stars in the heavens and are in awe and fear of them. 1248 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,560 Stars and again angels were known as star walkers, so 1249 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,680 they're looking to these demons. And again breakdown 1250 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,680 denominations Eamon I Nations seminaries. 1251 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,520 Semiramis was Nimrod's wife. Hermeneutics, Hermes, it has all 1252 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,560 already infiltrated into our culture. 1253 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,479 The the distraction of what if you had a substitute? 1254 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,399 What if we were wrong? What is truth? 1255 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,560 Can you answer me that? And I think if you have people 1256 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,520 bewildered, you end up coming down to two major religions in 1257 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,840 the world. One is desperately trying to 1258 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,880 keep all their followers asleep. The other one is trying 1259 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,160 earnestly to wake everyone up. I think he just broke someone's 1260 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,920 mind. Who owns a Christmas tree farm? 1261 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,240 It's like. Man, why have I got this 1262 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,560 Christmas tree farm? I'm putting in grapes, putting 1263 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,120 in something. Else, no stars, no stars. 1264 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,720 You're a star, I understand. Look at stars of Hollywood. 1265 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,359 Why? They all shaped like pentagrams. 1266 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,399 Yeah, why did Aleister Crowley say every man would be a star 1267 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,760 so? Yeah, Why did Earth Wind and 1268 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,600 Fire talk about your shining star? 1269 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,600 Oh, oh, music is all about it. Oh my gosh, we can't even get 1270 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,960 into it. We'll be here all. 1271 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:33,359 Day you wish upon a star. Are you praying to an idol? 1272 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,920 What Whoa. Druids tree worship. 1273 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,080 It comes from somewhere, folks. Look into it. 1274 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,319 Now I'm having a problem with Reading Rainbow. 1275 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960 Yep, all all of these things. They're everywhere. 1276 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,520 Yeah, but ultimately, as a parent, don't you want your 1277 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,480 child to, like, choose the right instead of just you forcing it? 1278 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,960 Like, you could force it, but it doesn't mean nearly as much as 1279 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,320 your kid doing it without you there. 1280 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,640 Like, I think that has a big part of it too. 1281 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,040 You know, I always look at it. I didn't. 1282 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,320 Finish where I was going with the metaphor, but the what Heidi 1283 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,960 just said, when he finished, he came back. 1284 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,640 He says all right you see men like tree walking. 1285 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,400 So I mean everybody's going to their giants, the fallen daemon 1286 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,520 demons. He and I are into your 1287 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,920 dominations call what you will goes again what do you see now I 1288 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,120 can see again. That's what happens when you 1289 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,200 have me in your life. A lot of people are just walking 1290 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,360 around going through the shadow, going through the motions. 1291 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,440 But when you have me, you're able to spiritually see clear go 1292 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:36,120 forward and don't tell anybody, just live it. 1293 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,720 Yeah guys, very powerful metaphors with why he did what 1294 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,840 he did. I don't know about Christopher 1295 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,800 and Jason's back story, but I know me and Drew both got the 1296 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,600 mud ticking out of our eyes, so I was definitely blind. 1297 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,640 Like I didn't even know. Yeah, so I know. 1298 01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,760 What you're talking about Heidi, I was born with 2023 Vision to 1299 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,040 see really good well. I said I didn't know. 1300 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,360 They will see way far away. I can't see what's right in 1301 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,960 front of me because of this log in my eye, but I'm going to tell 1302 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,240 you what I can see Specs real good. 1303 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,680 I just said that to my son 5 minutes ago before we started 1304 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,080 this. Like, yeah, I he was complaining 1305 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,680 about his sister's room and I said take the log out of your 1306 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:23,600 own eye. What? 1307 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,440 Look at your room. Back to being a parent, yeah. 1308 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,720 I I You know. Points that I wanted to kind of 1309 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,360 play off of what everybody else has said. 1310 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,440 One kind of touches on what Heidi said is that we we want 1311 01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:39,520 our children. You know if you have children 1312 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,000 you want them to choose instead of forcing them to do it. 1313 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,840 And there was a study I I haven't been able to find it 1314 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:49,320 since but there was a a group of sociologists that were looking 1315 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,640 at just almost as a a thought experiment like it if God chose 1316 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,040 this or you know we know that God chose this why like what are 1317 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:04,200 as opposed to what else. You know you have to ask that if 1318 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,160 if if there's an option what are the other options. 1319 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,320 And looking at free will and wanting to create a paradise 1320 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,360 that they actually concluded that there is no other way other 1321 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,520 than having a a space where people can choose and a way to 1322 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,840 move them from that to a a perfect space that you can't 1323 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:27,520 have a paradise and have free will without these these two 1324 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,440 spaces. So I thought that was really 1325 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:32,720 interesting just from a a pure science perspective. 1326 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,640 But the last thing I I wanted to say just on this topic was that 1327 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:45,000 Chuck Missler talked about how when you know so much of of what 1328 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,920 is it Romans. I can't remember the scripture 1329 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,280 right offhand. But from the creation or from 1330 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,240 the beginning of creation, the invisible qualities of God, you 1331 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,440 know are are seen. So it's easy to understand like 1332 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:58,280 his power, right. And it's not that difficult to 1333 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,080 understand maximum power like you get a little bit and you 1334 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,200 just, you know expand it to the NTH degree and and and you get 1335 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,320 that and we can kind of do that with knowledge too. 1336 01:13:06,440 --> 01:13:09,000 You know, we can understand infinite knowledge and those 1337 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,240 type of things. But how in the world do you 1338 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:19,960 express perfect love? Unless you have a space where 1339 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,080 your children, your most beloved creatures, can spit in your face 1340 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:28,680 and choose everything that is against you, and you still show 1341 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,200 up and you still say, Father, forgive them, for they don't 1342 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,520 know what they're doing. Like if nothing else, this space 1343 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,640 allows us to see the the magnitude of the love of God. 1344 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,240 It's dope, dude. Yeah, you never appreciate a 1345 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,760 gift as much as you do something you've earned. 1346 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,400 I agree with you totally. It makes me wonder though, you 1347 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,480 know, people like to say, well why would God do this if he knew 1348 01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:00,080 XYZ was going to happen? What I really want to know is I 1349 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,200 want to sit amongst the godhead when there's nobody else rap. 1350 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,160 He hasn't made anybody and they're having a discussion and 1351 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,760 I know one of them is going to sound like me. 1352 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,240 One of them is going to be like I would. 1353 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,760 This does not sound like a good idea. 1354 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,360 Do you know how much trouble this one dude you going to 1355 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,200 create named Jay Spears is going to cause you? 1356 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,240 You know how much arguments it's going to be? 1357 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,240 Why we're all we're already perfect. 1358 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,080 Why do we need more folks? Don't make them. 1359 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,680 I'm telling you this is I'm not going to say it's a bad idea. 1360 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,480 I'm just not sold you have. Stop by your head. 1361 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,160 Stop by your head. It's. 1362 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,800 It's me. It's you. 1363 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,720 And it's the other one. The Lamb. 1364 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,520 He hasn't been slain yet. Because we ain't made a world. 1365 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,960 You've got the best thing here. Just keep it with us. 1366 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,000 Please. I'm begging you. 1367 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,080 Don't make these things. We're. 1368 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,880 We're, I'm doing. Now, right, Right. 1369 01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,320 He's up in the corner. I'm doing. 1370 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,080 I'm about to make him do it. Don't do it. 1371 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,920 I'm do it. It's a bad idea, Lord. 1372 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,480 I mean, I'm with you 100%, but it's a bad idea. 1373 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,240 Holy Spirit, will you please speak up? 1374 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,240 You always quiet. Say something. 1375 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,000 Gods, I told you voices. Jason in his ears, just going 1376 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,520 Don't be making him a wife. Don't be making him a wife. 1377 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,240 I told you to go this way. I told you not to do that. 1378 01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:27,760 Oh my gosh. Yeah, I would love to have heard 1379 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,720 that conversation. You know they're going to eat 1380 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,240 that apple, right? They're going to eat that apple. 1381 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,520 Why are you putting it there? Oh. 1382 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,480 Yeah, they're going to eat that apple. 1383 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,840 There they go. I told you I. 1384 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,840 Told you you never listen. You know, there was a told you 1385 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800 so in that somewhere. We all know it, yeah. 1386 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,160 What? What was the movie? 1387 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,040 Was it Tears of the Sun? For whatever reason? 1388 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,880 Jason's tirade took me back to that. 1389 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,000 When they're trying to decide if they want to save everybody or 1390 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,960 not, and they go through and the guy's like, I think we should 1391 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,720 just cut our losses and bounce. He's like, but I'm with you 1392 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,120 guys. I'm with. 1393 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,360 You. Well, no. 1394 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,360 They also do that in Lone Survivor when they're you know, 1395 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,360 they got the they got the prisoner and like hey, we we 1396 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,480 kill him, we could probably live. 1397 01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:10,440 And I'm like listen to that guy. That's wisdom. 1398 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,360 Kill him and survive because we're going to spend an hour and 1399 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,600 a half on the wrong story. What he does it right. 1400 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,120 He he makes us and he goes through all of it. 1401 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:26,200 I think it's hard on this side of of reality, as as Brandon was 1402 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,400 saying, to get that full scope picture. 1403 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:35,760 I think it's different when you're in the dimensional 1404 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,360 reality of heaven. You can see things exponentially 1405 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,240 different than you see them now. You can feel them exponentially 1406 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,240 different. What was it about? 1407 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,040 As much as I've been, you know, bantering on about don't make 1408 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,680 them. What was it that Christ was 1409 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,360 like? All right, I'll do it. 1410 01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:01,160 Like, what did you see sitting in perfection next to God that 1411 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,320 you were willing to divest yourself of all the pleasures of 1412 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,640 heaven? Go down into the muck. 1413 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,320 Be born in a pigsty. Literally. 1414 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,040 Well, he used to call my room a pigsty. 1415 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,960 He was born in one. Then you have to deal with all 1416 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,160 the crap that comes on for 33 years only to get nailed through 1417 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,320 your hands, that you created with the sensitivity level in 1418 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,960 your hands, that you dialed up knowing full well it's going to 1419 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,640 hurt. For some people that mocked you 1420 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,960 while you sitting there butt naked on the cross, why would 1421 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,120 you do it? Because he minority reported it 1422 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,920 to begin with doing like a hand swiping he. 1423 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,320 Saw all the possibilities. Exactly. 1424 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,280 But to your point, Drew, I think there was something more that he 1425 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,400 saw and scripture talks about that for the the glory that was 1426 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,600 laid before. There's something else about the 1427 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,960 reality of being with God that transcends our our our earthly 1428 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,800 existence in reality. So it's kind of hard to ask 1429 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,080 those questions when it's when it's contained just within our 1430 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,880 7080 year perspective. Why would you even go through 1431 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,560 all of this? But sitting in the throne room 1432 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,360 of eternity, it probably looks very different. 1433 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,640 You know there was a thing that I wasn't. 1434 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,840 Christopher, you can help me out with this. 1435 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,000 I think it was Scientific America that that that 1436 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,960 established the fact that we live not just in a bounded 1437 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,720 reality, but in a in a what is it? 1438 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,080 A holographic. A digital projection of a larger 1439 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,600 reality. There you go. 1440 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,040 Thank you. It takes two of us to run the 1441 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:32,080 Jaeger, that if that's true, then being with God is outside 1442 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,960 of that digital holographic reality. 1443 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,520 It is more true and more of a actual reality being with him 1444 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:40,880 than what we're existing right now. 1445 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,000 What we're experiencing right now, then, is a hard filter to 1446 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,920 see eternity through. To ask why would you do this 1447 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,560 when you're sitting there with him and he's like, I know 1448 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,440 everything you felt and I could, I could almost quantify it with 1449 01:18:54,440 --> 01:18:57,360 ones and zeros, the degree of pain that you felt, the 1450 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,600 experiences. I know how many tears you cried. 1451 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,920 I know how many times your heart seized up when XY and Z happened 1452 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,160 to you. I've got all the stats, all the 1453 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,880 numbers. Now take all of that quantified 1454 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,200 data and and all that information and let's compare it 1455 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,480 to this larger reality of you and me and these truths that you 1456 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:17,800 will never, ever have to be apart from. 1457 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,440 I think it puts our 7080 years on this planet into a totally 1458 01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:25,360 different perspective. It's not to minimize the pain 1459 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,960 that we go through. It's not to to minimize the 1460 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,320 heartache that we go through. But I think when you're dealing 1461 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,600 with the guy who understands all of this, he also knows that he 1462 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,200 can take that heartache and turn it into something much greater 1463 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,720 than just heartache. He can take a life that 1464 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,840 experiences trauma and transform it from something that is just 1465 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,320 traumatic to something that's beautiful. 1466 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,720 He can take, he can take ashes and make something beautiful 1467 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,760 from it because he's a creator God. 1468 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,640 When you understand that, it changes the nature of the 1469 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,840 question, Why would you allow this to happen? 1470 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,200 Because what's happening is not all there is. 1471 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,760 I can do a lot with that, and what I can do can be immensely 1472 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,640 even better than just the experience of not having it 1473 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,200 alone. It's a whole different thing 1474 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,080 when you're you said pain. And the first thing that came to 1475 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,680 my mind as a nurse is when we talk to people and say, hey, 1476 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,760 rate your pain on a level of one to 1010 is the worst pain you've 1477 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,800 ever felt in your life. Well, today you might have a 10 1478 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,480 because you had a splinter. I mean if that's the only pain 1479 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:33,120 you ever knew, then it's going to be that. 1480 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,360 But if you can compare it to like say you broke your arm, now 1481 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,440 your your perception has changed. 1482 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:43,040 And now say I had a baby at home naturally, which I did. 1483 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,880 Now my perception is completely different, like screw the broken 1484 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,600 arm, that's a whole different thing. 1485 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,360 Like so each level you understand a different thing. 1486 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,160 So when we are with the Lord, even all the things we are going 1487 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,360 through now, I don't think it will be what it is now. 1488 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,120 I think we'll see it different, yeah. 1489 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,240 I think so too. Like having a conversation with 1490 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,680 a normie person at work, and that's a tanning chain. 1491 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,000 I used to be that person. Oh my gosh. 1492 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,880 Jason I I loved how you kind of brought into the the concept 1493 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:23,440 that through our physical, mortal understanding, we can't 1494 01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:26,960 truly understand what the spiritual realm, what it means 1495 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,880 to be beside God, because it's a completely different existence 1496 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,040 from what this is Not that one's greater than the other, that 1497 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,240 we're here for a reason to experience these things, but in 1498 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,040 this realm we can't truly comprehend. 1499 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,160 We've got the scriptures there, we have the word of Jesus and 1500 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,760 and the way he's tried to teach us. 1501 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,240 But ultimately there's still things we will never fully 1502 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,080 understand until we're there. And that's something I think, 1503 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,920 that a lot of people need to come to terms. 1504 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,680 There's not always going to be a black and white defined answer 1505 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,480 for everything. I think this is a great thing 1506 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:57,520 about this show is that we do ask those questions, but we 1507 01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,320 tried to unpack can it be answered? 1508 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,400 And if it can't, that's OK, because there's not always an 1509 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,320 answer to every question in this reality. 1510 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,840 You said that, Drew, because I I would normally push back when I 1511 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,480 hear people say that. I think there are answers. 1512 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:14,160 I think the the issue is can we understand them, where we're at. 1513 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,520 And I'm hoping that when we get to heaven I'm like, God, why did 1514 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,760 this happen? Why did you do such and such And 1515 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,760 so he'd be like, I'm glad you asked. 1516 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,080 Sit down for a minute. I'm going to show you some stuff 1517 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,040 and then I walk away with it like I'm not asking another 1518 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,160 question because that was like to answer that question. 1519 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,000 Drew the answers. Drew these all the memes you 1520 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:39,360 posted online, Drew. You're. 1521 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,640 But I do think there are answers. 1522 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,400 I just think that some of them we can't get here. 1523 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,400 We can't understand them here. And so I think that's part of 1524 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,240 the beauty of eternity is being there and being able to ask 1525 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,600 those questions. And ah, now I can tell you, I've 1526 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,120 waited. Now we could talk about it. 1527 01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,760 I I liken it too. When you're teaching children 1528 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,600 and it's a it's a little new monarch you use called the Power 1529 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,000 of yet kids will often as they're learning and they're 1530 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,680 developing they're they'll encounter a challenge or 1531 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,600 something that I don't understand and they'll quit. 1532 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,520 They'll give up. I can't do this and you always 1533 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,120 come in with the the yet I can't do this yet. 1534 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,760 You will get there. You will develop. 1535 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,840 You will grow. I think that development and 1536 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,960 growth for humanity is beyond the physical realm. 1537 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,040 We might have the questions now, but we can't have those answered 1538 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:30,240 until a later stage. On that note, I'm going to ask 1539 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,960 another question that possibly cannot be answered just for fun. 1540 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,400 Is there a greater evil above Lucifer? 1541 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,120 Is it possible that Lucifer was not acting alone? 1542 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,360 Was he himself influenced by darkness, of which has not been 1543 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,000 mentioned or not yet known to mankind? 1544 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:54,880 Mormons. There's a guy, a guy just 1545 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,800 standing next to Lucifer in a snazzy white shirt with a black 1546 01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,920 tie and goes, Hey, have you heard about this? 1547 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,760 Hormones have you? Yeah. 1548 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:07,400 That's really cool, rebellions. They knocked on his door. 1549 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,120 They were the door knockers. I I would say yes because it 1550 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,560 that would that spirit of Antichrist call it whatever you 1551 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,920 will it's over the hearts and minds of men and you get the 1552 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:22,360 verse from Isaiah 1414 as I can become like the God most high. 1553 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,640 He eventually says it goes down to the garden of Eden. 1554 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,800 He's like you can become like gods if you just take a bite of 1555 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,400 this you know. And even when you translate the 1556 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,560 doppelganger, the Christ Pagan doppelganger, the regeneration 1557 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,400 Hermes, he's when you translate it his name out. 1558 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,680 It roughly comes to mean His Highness the the His Royal 1559 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,920 Highness of divine eternal use is basically what his name comes 1560 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,760 down to. And what are they telling us 1561 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:55,040 with this you get a certain thing for your head that it'll 1562 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,960 heal you it'll you'll continue your life. 1563 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,240 You can download it. You can live for forever. 1564 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,480 Yes, and and and. I. 1565 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,360 Want to say the word because Heidi knows what happened last 1566 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,040 time. They don't like it because like 1567 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,240 like Jason was saying. God thinks me. 1568 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,760 Metaphoric and symbolism and I'm able to start unraveling the 1569 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,440 tapestry in my mind it's it's it's it's crazy but it's 1570 01:25:18,440 --> 01:25:20,680 beautiful when you start understanding. 1571 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,960 Oh wow. As a writer I'm just like that's 1572 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:28,760 pretty dope. So I think like the mentality if 1573 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,800 if if if you don't fear, and I I mean that in reverence. 1574 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,840 So if people don't get confused I'm just like reverence of your 1575 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,560 creator guide that that's the ultimate evil there is. 1576 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,880 And I I think that points out a lot with what you're talking 1577 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,640 about time travel and whatnot. When you look up Astroth, it was 1578 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,640 the God of time or time travel is like affiliated with them. 1579 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,080 And I'm kind of chuckling at that because I'm I just read 1580 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,440 this book cost 94 bucks that's all thanks to my followers. 1581 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,880 But very interesting thing. When I was reading about this 1582 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,520 cult of soul Invictus, it's a sun God cult. 1583 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:11,520 They had a thing called a Black Rock that would ride in a 1584 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,920 chariot of four horses. Black Rock, certain company that 1585 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,480 we know owns a lot of stuff today. 1586 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,960 And I was reading because you know, God's cool like this. 1587 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,800 I wanted to call my show man a daily podcast and I'm reading 1588 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,840 one time and I get to this verse and it says in Revelation 217 he 1589 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,280 who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit says to the 1590 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:38,720 churches to him who overcomes. I will give him some hidden mana 1591 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:45,040 to eat, and I will give him a whitestone, and on the stone a 1592 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,800 name Britain, which no one knows except him who receives it. 1593 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,000 So we get a Blackstone and a whitestone and immediately I was 1594 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,600 thinking of the show Lost, where at the end you have the two 1595 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,360 brothers, one's wearing the white shirt, one's wearing the 1596 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,480 black shirt, and in the beginning they had the kid and 1597 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,920 what John Locke playing with the little black and whitestone, 1598 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,560 Bagnette Madden, whatever that's called. 1599 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,440 And we're playing with good and evil. 1600 01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,200 We're playing with a mentality as it could be this reality. 1601 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,040 It could be that reality. And we see that with like their 1602 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:19,760 flashbacks, like what could have changed if they could have met 1603 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,720 beforehand. And sometimes we saw some of 1604 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,880 those scenarios what what could have changed if they go into the 1605 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,760 afterlife together. And we're constantly playing 1606 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:32,160 with that, with that mentality. What could I do if I could 1607 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,880 change something like, you know, have that power to manipulate 1608 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,520 this existence. So I think that's kind of kind 1609 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,480 of what Lucifer's mindset is. I think that is what ultimately 1610 01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:48,200 evil is, is You're asking what if, what if I was in charge of 1611 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,760 time and all that ever was? What if I was in charge of 1612 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,440 eternity? What would that look like for 1613 01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:57,000 me? And he's made already promises 1614 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,800 and contracts. Like Jason was referring to to 1615 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,280 his fallen watcher saying, don't worry, we're going to get your 1616 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,160 kids bodies back. They're going to have eternal 1617 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,720 life. We're going to utilize it 1618 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,200 through them. They're going to be your energy. 1619 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,120 They're going to harvest you. They're going to be vessels of 1620 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,560 energy and resources and soul energy of the sun. 1621 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:13,960 You're going to harness that energy. 1622 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,880 Don't worry. And we will go to war against 1623 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,680 heaven, just like we did with the Tower of Babels. 1624 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,560 Just a little bit more time. 2 point O is coming, guys, And 1625 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,160 that's again when you look at the Israeli flags. 1626 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,280 A star Arafat 1988 September Playboy interview. 1627 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,120 He says you know what the the star of his Israeli flag is 1628 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,200 based on 2 blue stripes from the Euphrates and that dries up. 1629 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,720 Turkey's already drying, it drying up with their dams. 1630 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,360 And then you go down to the Nile. 1631 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,320 That just happens to be the territory where Bale worship was 1632 01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,600 most popular, AKA Nimrod, Sun, Tammuz. 1633 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,080 And the star in the center is the star of R.E.M. 1634 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,680 Fan. Again, another star, which is 1635 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,160 condemned in 526 and Amos and 743 by Stephen the murderer, 1636 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,240 right before he gets executed. This is the thing the Pharisees 1637 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,480 are still worshipping, and that's what the ZS are still 1638 01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:06,360 worshipping to this day. Their Messiah figure is of the 1639 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,240 Tree of life, the Leviathan, and they literally were looking at 1640 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:14,280 Christ saying, OK, OK, you want to be our Messiah? 1641 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,960 We'll put you on a tree. We'll give you what you want. 1642 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,640 You're not the one that we actually wanted. 1643 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,400 And you're going to be the king of the ewes. 1644 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240 The trees, Tree of life. That's what they are believing 1645 01:29:26,440 --> 01:29:29,080 Knowledge of good and evil. That's what we think we can 1646 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,080 ascend. Whereas you're saying you can 1647 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,920 come down here and bring us. No, no, no, no. 1648 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:38,160 So when he comes back to life as the way, the truth and the life 1649 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,720 and he died on a cross that was supposed. 1650 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,920 It was a mockery. It was symbolism of mockery that 1651 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:48,120 we can kill you on a tree. It's just very powerful. 1652 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,680 Metaphors are there and I think. The symbols are there. 1653 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,640 Yes, but again, I think that's ultimately what it is, is the 1654 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,000 hearts and minds of men. And this is where you get with 1655 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,920 Jeremiah, where it says the heart is deceitfully wicked who 1656 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:03,280 can know it. And then I think it's in nine 1657 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,320 and ten. I saved the verse. 1658 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,600 It's And then the Lord says in 1710. 1659 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,760 Jeremiah, I, the Lord search the mind and try the heart to give 1660 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,960 every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his 1661 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,520 doings. Hearts and minds. 1662 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,720 Hearts and minds. And I think that's what the 1663 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,720 ultimate spiritual battle is, is If you're going to let me in, I 1664 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,880 can change both of those your perspective, the way you view 1665 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,240 the world. Let me into your heart and I can 1666 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:35,360 control your mind. Yeah, I can see that. 1667 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,520 You know, it's funny, Drew, you were asking is there a greater 1668 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,520 evil above Lucifer? And I don't know why I've got so 1669 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,440 many movie metaphors in my mind, but all I could see was Samuel 1670 01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:46,760 Jackson and Black Snake Mountain, like just turned 1671 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,880 around, like there better not be there better not be no other 1672 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,960 evil greater than me and I. It's funny though. 1673 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:59,520 I think again, we get into an issue of semantics, you know, we 1674 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,720 get into an issue of word usage. Is there a greater evil? 1675 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,200 Possibly. I mean, we don't know all the 1676 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,760 the players in heaven, We don't know all the players in hell. 1677 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,880 We don't know all the people who fell. 1678 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,920 I mean, as far as Scripture says, when you go to count the 1679 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,880 angels, it's an innumerable amount that we can't count. 1680 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,080 And you've gotten pretty high on the number scale. 1681 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,320 So whatever it is, it's a pretty big number. 1682 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:29,160 And according to Enoch, a third of them sided with with Satan. 1683 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,360 But we don't know all of their their, their pedigree. 1684 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,320 So I don't know if we could really answer that question. 1685 01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:41,240 I think though what Scripture does help us do is even if he's 1686 01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:46,040 not the greatest evil, he was the source of it. 1687 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,680 And I think that's the the the core point. 1688 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,520 He's the one that allowed his own beauty that God had given 1689 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,160 him to cause him to be self absorbed. 1690 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,120 He's the one that came up with this idea of things he could do. 1691 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,400 Even scripture says that it was iniquity was found in him by the 1692 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,160 abundance of his trade. I'm like, whoa, whoa, iniquity 1693 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,880 was found in you. Do you know how much stuff you 1694 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,600 got to do for iniquity to be found in you? 1695 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,480 And then the abundance of your iniquities? 1696 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:16,760 Like, that's a lot that he was doing. 1697 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,760 That wasn't an oops, that wasn't a I'm having a bad day and I'm 1698 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,280 done with God. He committed to a course of 1699 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,920 action he got other people to commit, so he became that 1700 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:32,040 central point of rebellion. Now could he even could he have 1701 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,120 of of. I think the word was conscripted 1702 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,160 other entities into into league, sure. 1703 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,520 Could they have been more powerful than him on a on a 1704 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,840 pound for pound level? Possibly. 1705 01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,360 But he's still the Federated Head of the Kingdom of Darkness 1706 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:53,040 of albeit for maybe spiritual force and power or be it for 1707 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,320 contractual obligations. He's still considered the head 1708 01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,640 point, and I think that's probably the the greater take 1709 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,800 away. I do find it interesting though, 1710 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:09,000 that in Scripture he's not the last enemy we have that's dealt 1711 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,440 with. And it always seemed to upset 1712 01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:15,680 me, like, why is he not? I would have figured the last 1713 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,960 enemy that we deal with is the one who started it all. 1714 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,040 But coincidentally, again, I don't get to have these sidebar 1715 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,720 conversations with Jesus when we get up there. 1716 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,160 We're going, we're going, we're going, you know, straighten all 1717 01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:26,960 of this out because I would have done it differently. 1718 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,000 Nobody else is going to see Jesus, only Jesus, because. 1719 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,360 I got some questions, things I need to know from birth. 1720 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,840 I got a list I'm keeping together. 1721 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,960 Starting out with why the girl's butt shake. 1722 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,320 Lord. And why'd you let me see that so 1723 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,480 early in life. Now we need to move forward. 1724 01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:48,880 God, I got deeper questions. But I think it's interesting 1725 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:53,040 that it is death that is the last enemy. 1726 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:55,200 That's not what I would have thought. 1727 01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,920 Why death? Why isn't Satan the last one? 1728 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,040 Right? There's there's nothing is by 1729 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,680 chance. Nothing's coincidental. 1730 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,600 Nothing is happenstance when it comes to God. 1731 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,880 So a lot of the questions I got are you. 1732 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:13,560 I need deeper understanding. I need you to explain why death. 1733 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,240 I'm not even saying you did it wrong. 1734 01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,480 Just there's something there that's important for why death 1735 01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:21,720 is the last enemy that's destroyed. 1736 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,600 Well, arguably, you could say that death is our most 1737 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,520 vulnerable point in their entire lives. 1738 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,160 It's a time when we can go into extreme doubt or into extreme 1739 01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,680 belief. And if we are on our last legs, 1740 01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,560 our last moments, that seed of doubt, that fear that drives it, 1741 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,040 that could be the ultimate point where you're you're taken by the 1742 01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,680 wrong side. You're LED down a path which 1743 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,920 isn't to God. It isn't to righteousness. 1744 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,000 You are deceived at that very last moment. 1745 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,520 It is the most crucial moment of Immortal's life. 1746 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,520 Not just your birth is as important as your beginning 1747 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,000 point, but the end. The End is the culmination of 1748 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:59,120 your physical being and ultimately it It dictates which 1749 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,160 party you go down in the final moments. 1750 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,600 OK, true. But I think that the way you 1751 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,120 just explained, that actually helps put a spotlight on 1752 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,720 something I think a lot of us do. 1753 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,000 And that is we take a spiritual reality and we reduce it to a 1754 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,080 physical one. What I mean by that is the 1755 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:21,480 concept of death predates humanity, but we don't see it 1756 01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:24,400 that way. We normally look at death as a 1757 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:29,400 physical thing. And there's a scriptural there's 1758 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:31,360 there's a scripture that actually highlights this point. 1759 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,920 I don't have the citation. Brandon will probably know as 1760 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,760 soon as I say it, he's going, he's going to hit it. 1761 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:42,280 But there's a scripture that said that Satan was a murderer 1762 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,480 from the beginning. How? 1763 01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,760 How can you be a murderer from the beginning? 1764 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,560 What'd you kill? And we can't be talking about 1765 01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,880 mankind because it's there from the beginning, not the beginning 1766 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,360 of us. So from the beginning you were 1767 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,640 murder. Who'd you kill? 1768 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,560 What you do? If our concept of murder is to 1769 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,320 take a life, so to speak, then it doesn't make sense. 1770 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,440 If our concept of life and death, though it was expanded a 1771 01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:18,280 bit, it starts to fall in line. And my understanding of death 1772 01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:20,800 has to do with the idea of separation. 1773 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:26,080 When we die physically, our soul or or the immaterial part of our 1774 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,640 being is separated from our physical being, so we call that 1775 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,640 a physical death. If death is predicated on 1776 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:38,240 separation, then where was there separation Back in antiquity 1777 01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,120 dealing with whatever Lucifer did? 1778 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,040 There is separation. But separation from what? 1779 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,520 There were entities that were separated from God when they 1780 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,560 sided with Lucifer in a great rebellion. 1781 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,720 If God is considered the source of life, then separation from 1782 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,080 him would be death. Death is not cessation of 1783 01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,920 existence. It doesn't mean that you're no 1784 01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,480 longer around. It fundamentally means you are 1785 01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:03,800 separated from the source of life. 1786 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,760 You can still exist, right? If that's what it means, then 1787 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,640 what is murder? Murder is to create a death 1788 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:18,200 unlawfully. So where do we see that at? 1789 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,040 See that back with scripture, with Satan. 1790 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,200 Satan created the spiritual death of his fellow brothers 1791 01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,480 when he got them to side with him against Yahweh, creating a 1792 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,000 separation between them. Therefore they died a spiritual 1793 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,120 death. And because he got them to do 1794 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,120 something, because he did that unlawfully, created that 1795 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,880 separation unlawfully, it's considered a murder. 1796 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,320 And maybe. That from? 1797 01:37:43,480 --> 01:37:45,920 The beginning, right. Maybe he was that from the 1798 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,360 beginning, because it says in the Bible that even if you think 1799 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,960 something, you've already committed the sin, yes. 1800 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,040 Especially in that realm, because of your thought realm, 1801 01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,600 that whole thing exists, it just doesn't exist in our physical 1802 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,920 reality. So this makes. 1803 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,680 The whole. Go ahead. 1804 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,960 I was just going to say it makes the the whole death in the 1805 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,480 Garden of Eden make a lot more sense because, you know, it 1806 01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:14,080 said, you know that day you would die and we're like, but 1807 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,680 he's still alive. And then the modern Christianity 1808 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,840 goes, yeah, but it was a spiritual death and we really 1809 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,520 don't know what that means. So we kind of dance around it. 1810 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,720 But that explanation, I think nails it. 1811 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,520 Yeah. Well, I I looked up the verse 1812 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,400 just to. Just go now. 1813 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,720 Yeah, you you get my mind going, Jason. 1814 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:38,840 We got to have another chat. I'm. 1815 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,760 I'm loving you. Your metaphors speak to my 1816 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,080 heart. Right. 1817 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,760 But it's an that's in John 844 for folks who are actually 1818 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,080 taking notes. You belong to your father, the 1819 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:55,080 devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. 1820 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,640 He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding him to 1821 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:02,400 the truth, for there is no truth in him when he's lies. 1822 01:39:02,440 --> 01:39:06,200 He speaks his native tongue, for he is a liar and the father of 1823 01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,160 lies. I think it's a very powerful 1824 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,440 thing that we emphasize the truth aspect, 'cause that taps 1825 01:39:10,440 --> 01:39:13,080 into what I was saying with Pontius Pilate, he's he doesn't 1826 01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,640 understand what truth is, even though the embodiment of truth 1827 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:20,040 in the flesh is standing right in front of him. 1828 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,680 And what is he? He's, he's grasping that, the 1829 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,080 things of this world, his father, the devil. 1830 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,640 And he's over here like going like, dude, I'm at my wit's end 1831 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,480 right now. I really do not have time for 1832 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,200 you. Whoever you are. 1833 01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:37,600 He's some religious fanatic, another another one, another God 1834 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,960 seriously like and you eventually get later on with 1835 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:46,440 Paul as I die to myself daily, at a certain point he grasped 1836 01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:49,040 what it was even though at another verse he says like it's 1837 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,600 it's a great mystery. I speak of a great mystery, even 1838 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,840 I who studied years of Torah. I don't even. 1839 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,360 Understand this, but I'm doing the best I can with bringing up 1840 01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,920 references and sending out letters to the churches to try 1841 01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:03,240 to explain. This whole new concept that was 1842 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,960 a stranger to me and again what did God do to him? 1843 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,800 Blind him. And it wasn't until he was 1844 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,320 touched by one of his other people in the faith that he was 1845 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,280 able to see clearly again he goes from persecuting and 1846 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,960 murdering because he was buying the lie to saving souls. 1847 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,160 We wouldn't have the new like what 80% of the New Testament if 1848 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:28,360 it wasn't for Paul. So it I I think once you 1849 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:33,200 understand what with with with Satan it's a sin and what is sin 1850 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:37,920 sin draws you away. With Christ it's a sacrifice is 1851 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,840 that you have to humble yourself so you can understand and you 1852 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,000 can retain and you can get all of what it is to be in the Holy 1853 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,360 Spirit cause a lot of Christians don't understand what the Holy 1854 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,680 Spirit is. It's a very scary thing. 1855 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,240 But Drew, you know what I'm talking about is when I I broke 1856 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,160 down the sacred seed thing. There's very powerful metaphors 1857 01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:01,280 of the temple and the baptism and understanding what that is. 1858 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:06,480 When you once you are indwelled, you have the power that what 1859 01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:09,320 happened with the day of Pentecost was a reversal. 1860 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,840 What happened at the Tower of Babel, I'm going to confuse all 1861 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,440 their languages now. Everyone's hearing in their 1862 01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:20,000 native tongues how to attain this truth, this gospel message, 1863 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,280 to get back into the Kingdom of heaven. 1864 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,400 It just redeemed the nations. It's it's it's a beautiful love 1865 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,840 story. And if we don't understand the 1866 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:33,240 dichotomy that's at play, the father of lies, father of truth, 1867 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,960 we're we're susceptible to falling away to the things of 1868 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:41,800 this world. Even culture cult her we we 1869 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,760 we've we've become demoralized and loving our country more than 1870 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:49,240 our Creator. We love politics and our party 1871 01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,520 political parties more than our than our, our, our Christ. 1872 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,000 That's that's really what it's come down here. 1873 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,760 Especially I'm speaking in American terms. 1874 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,920 It's a very arrogant ideology. And what is? 1875 01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:02,000 What is God? Hey, hey, hey. 1876 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,960 We're the greatest nation on the planet. 1877 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,480 It's not here. It's facts. 1878 01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:09,520 God Bless America. Nobody else. 1879 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,280 Metric system, Metric System. But God is not a. 1880 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:15,360 God of countries. He's a God of his people. 1881 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,280 And I think a lot of people, right. 1882 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,200 They're not grasping that. So therefore they justify what 1883 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,400 goes on in overseas because it's not my house, not my family. 1884 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,240 I was doing what I was supposed to do. 1885 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,720 And what does Christ say? Eventually when we get up there? 1886 01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,000 Lord, Lord, did we do such? And so in your name, didn't we 1887 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:32,920 bomb the bad guys because you're chosen? 1888 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,800 Depart from me. I never knew you. 1889 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,120 I never endorsed that. I never signed off on any of 1890 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:39,480 that. That's a modern crusade. 1891 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,840 And you're thinking you're doing that in my name. 1892 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,880 Get out of here. I know I'm going to throw a bit 1893 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,160 of a spanner in the works here and see what people's thoughts 1894 01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,600 are on this. What that exact part of 1895 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,800 scripture that was mentioned Chapter 8, John's Gospel. 1896 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,720 The You are from the father of the devil. 1897 01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,480 You prefer to do what your father wants. 1898 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,040 He was a murderer from the start. 1899 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,160 He was never grounded in truth. There's no truth in him at all. 1900 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,680 When he lies. He's speaking to true nature 1901 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,480 because he's a liar and the father of lies. 1902 01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:12,840 From my understanding, he's speaking to Yahweh in that is 1903 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,880 that the original spiritual murder Because what we saw the 1904 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,640 actions of Jesus Christ, he was very much against the Church of 1905 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,520 Yahweh and breaking down the system of that church that was 1906 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:27,000 around of his time. Is Yahweh truly God? 1907 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,760 Or is Yahweh a word that is being weaponized in time to take 1908 01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:36,200 the place of God? Well, I know Albert Pike, he was 1909 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,720 referring to Yahweh as, you know, God. 1910 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,000 But The thing is that I kind of chuckle because I try, I try to 1911 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,920 explain to folks is that, oh, you know, that's not really 1912 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,960 Jesus's name or that's not, you know, whatever. 1913 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,680 I don't get into semantics. I want to know, do you actually 1914 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,040 trust the father, son? Do you actually believe in God? 1915 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,080 Etymology wise, we speak the tongue of Gentiles. 1916 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,000 I don't think God's going to get over semantics of, oh, you 1917 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:00,720 actually called me, you know, my son, Jesus. 1918 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,760 And that's it. I think he's going to be like I 1919 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,800 was. Looking at your heart. 1920 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:05,760 I was looking at where your mind was at. 1921 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,320 Were you actually striving and seeking to follow me? 1922 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,400 Were you doing the best you could to promote the Kingdom of 1923 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,680 heaven as opposed to hiding in the corner saying I don't want 1924 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,960 to be seen until you know the Rapture gets me out. 1925 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,920 He doesn't want fearful people in his Kingdom. 1926 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,080 He wants soldiers. He wants people that are going 1927 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,800 to fight. And I think a lot of times 1928 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,720 people aren't grasping what that is because they don't understand 1929 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,960 what it is, and that's why, he says. 1930 01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,440 Narrow is the way and few there be that find it. 1931 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,160 I don't think many people want that. 1932 01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,040 I don't think they have to fight, honestly. 1933 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,320 That's like the rich ruler. When you find out what it's 1934 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,320 required, you're like. I'm straight, You know, there's 1935 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:47,680 all it's. It's funny. 1936 01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,280 It's interesting how often in the natural realm there are 1937 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:55,920 things that we all at that parallel spiritual realities 1938 01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,240 that we scoff at. That's a T-shirt. 1939 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:02,280 I think I'm gonna make that. But you know, it was funny. 1940 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,280 I was talking to Christopher and I was like, hey, isn't it really 1941 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:10,640 strange that when you look at the whole story of Gideon, and 1942 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,880 Gideon gets his whole fighting force reduced down from like 1943 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,000 30,000 down to 300 and you're like, that is a stupid tactical 1944 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,280 idea guy. I don't know who taught you how 1945 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,360 to God, but what makes you think that you could go up against a 1946 01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:29,160 Persian army or whoever and it's only going to be 300 a yard? 1947 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,800 That's Reed. That is ridiculous. 1948 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:37,760 And then Josh Schneider puts out a film and you're like 300 dudes 1949 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,400 to the ground. Who would have ever thought 1950 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,320 this? This is absolutely amazing. 1951 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,640 You got to have the mindset of, I don't know what you got to be 1952 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,040 a credible soldier to take 300 folks and just stand there even 1953 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,000 when the arrows come down on you like, hey, we'll fight in the 1954 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,080 shade. I'm like, give me some bad boys. 1955 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,520 I wish the Bible had stories like that. 1956 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,800 It's crazy how often there really are these spiritual 1957 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,760 realities that the Bible actually endorses that we don't 1958 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,360 pick up on. The Navy Seals have an attrition 1959 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:12,800 rate that I think is like 8 or 9 out of 10, like 8090% don't make 1960 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,520 it. And when you talk to most of the 1961 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:21,760 people, most special forces training regiments are not as 1962 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,320 hard as the Navy Seal's regimen is. 1963 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,360 And when you talk to most of the people who have made it through 1964 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,440 it, a lot of them say the same thing. 1965 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,560 What separates a person that can't make it through buds 1966 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,840 versus a person who can is not really their physical stamina. 1967 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,920 It's their mental stamina. It's their mindset. 1968 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,800 It's do you have a warrior's mentality. 1969 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,880 It's one of the reasons that Operation Red Pill that 1970 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,760 Christopher and I are constantly using warrior like nomenclature 1971 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:53,360 and warrior like terminology to constantly reinfuse that concept 1972 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,720 of we're at war. This isn't peacetime, right? 1973 01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:02,880 You couldn't be dropped off over into like Bangladesh, Ukraine, 1974 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:07,520 the jungles of Angola or wherever and had this soft 1975 01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,760 mentality of I can't believe you're shooting at me. 1976 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:11,560 What? What they should have. 1977 01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,200 Been for Do you have a weapon in your hand? 1978 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:15,920 I do. Well, maybe that's why they're 1979 01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,160 shooting at you. You're in the middle of a war 1980 01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,680 zone carrying a weapon and tag on it. 1981 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,280 I should have just bought apples today. 1982 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:25,320 I'm not trying to get shot at. Most of us don't recognize the 1983 01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,640 fact that here we are sitting in this planet. 1984 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,120 This planet is a hostile environment and we're supposed 1985 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,720 to be fighting. So to Josh, to Brandon's point, 1986 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,800 no, you can't actually sit over in the corner and just be 1987 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,120 wishing that all of this passes you by. 1988 01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:42,720 There's no way you can do that credibly and still be like, 1989 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,840 yeah, guys, about your business. God's business is about kicking 1990 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,600 in doors, taking names. You got to be very aggressive to 1991 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,800 do that. And you can't be afraid of 1992 01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,840 getting hit. You can't be afraid of conflict. 1993 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,720 Hence why the whole fear thing is so important because it it 1994 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,440 paralyzes you and you don't move, you don't take ground 1995 01:48:02,440 --> 01:48:04,760 back. And that's so critical for the 1996 01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,440 success of Kingdom operations here on this planet. 1997 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,440 It's funny, like as we were talking, I keep back to another 1998 01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:13,960 movie. I was thinking about Jesse 1999 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,000 Ventura and Predator. And there's a scene where 2000 01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,200 they're sitting all out, everything's blowing up. 2001 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,240 And he's like, you're bleeding. He's like, I ain't got time to 2002 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,120 bleed. We even got time to bleed. 2003 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,200 You got time to dump. He's still fighting out here. 2004 01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,520 And at some point you got to pull out old painless, which is 2005 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,280 that wonderful Gatling gun, and you got to go to town. 2006 01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:39,080 A lot of us don't want to do that, and I think that's really 2007 01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:43,320 the that's really tragedy of the modern churches. 2008 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:49,400 So many of us are unwilling to do what it really requires in 2009 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,000 order for evil not to run on unrestricted on its way. 2010 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:54,280 Go ahead. Right. 2011 01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,600 And not just that. It's not that so many of us are 2012 01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,680 unwilling, it's that we even disparage those that are doing 2013 01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,160 it right. We hear, oh, well, this person 2014 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,520 sees a demon behind every door or whatever. 2015 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,040 And Jason, you've had that, that great analogy that if you're in 2016 01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:11,200 a war zone, you know, is there a Claymore behind every door? 2017 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,320 Probably not. But we need to act as though 2018 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,240 there is or you're going to be the casualty of a Claymore. 2019 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,600 Missing a lake? Right, exactly. 2020 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,640 There was a Claymore who would have thunk it in a war zone that 2021 01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,880 they would put IED somewhere. That's that's just befuddling. 2022 01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:30,960 Who did who? Did I ever imagine that one man, 2023 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,520 they got these new tactics today. 2024 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,840 I missed the days of guerrilla warfare where you could just 2025 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,040 fall into a mind pit that she didn't know it was there. 2026 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,160 Yeah, I think it just really exposes the fact that the the 2027 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,160 modern church does not have that warrior mindset and they're 2028 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,520 actively working against it. And I think that's so much of 2029 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,640 what Christ was trying to develop is really that warrior 2030 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,760 mentality like so many of us are, have have gotten that 2031 01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,080 script away from us. And it's it's almost 2032 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,600 disheartening because I I think Christianity, yeah. 2033 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:09,000 I think Drew, you were saying it is people are expecting this 2034 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,240 supernatural power to like rescue them per SE, right. 2035 01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:17,200 And yeah, Jesus does do that, but it's also the do what I'm 2036 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,720 supposed to do for me. And he doesn't do that. 2037 01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,840 There's a lot that we're supposed to be doing that. 2038 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,520 Unfortunately, I just don't think we are and it shows in our 2039 01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:32,520 environment. Yeah, I mean, often times we say 2040 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,000 that, that that God won't do for you what you can do for 2041 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,880 yourself. And in just the The resurrection 2042 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,840 of Lazarus, we see a lot of that, right? 2043 01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:46,840 Jesus didn't rule the the the stone away from the opening of 2044 01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,800 the tomb, right? Jesus didn't cut off Lazarus 2045 01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:51,960 grave clothes. He told everybody else to do 2046 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:55,200 that. He was there to speak life into 2047 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:58,560 a man that was dead. All the other work were for his 2048 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,440 friends to do. And I I mean we we got to really 2049 01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:05,120 learn that lesson. God is here to do the things 2050 01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,720 that we can't. Everything else we've got to do. 2051 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,600 That's why we constantly say on the show, you pray like it's all 2052 01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:14,640 up to God, but you work like it's all up to you. 2053 01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,440 When you do that, it makes the difference. 2054 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:23,720 If if Lucifer is as powerful as he says he is, doing that 2055 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:29,440 approach limits that power. I think I've stumbled across the 2056 01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:33,040 topic I'd love to discuss with you guys next time around. 2057 01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,640 I'm keep finding myself being drawn back to Yaoism because I'm 2058 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,920 a academic historical person. I love history. 2059 01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:44,080 I love the theology of how religions adapt and change over 2060 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,760 time. I love the idea here, how 2061 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,680 languages change, the adaption of words, the changing of words. 2062 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,400 Something keeps drawing me back to Yaoism, which was the 2063 01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:56,120 original faith of the Hebrews before its reformation into a 2064 01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,920 singular God, deity and the pantheon that surrounded Yahweh 2065 01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:03,160 in that time. And what brought this to mind 2066 01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:07,920 for me was when Jesus said no man has ever seen my father, Man 2067 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,840 only comes to my father through me. 2068 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:14,760 So that led that logically made me question who did Abraham and 2069 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,000 Moses actually see? Who were they conversing with if 2070 01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,040 no man has ever seen my father but me? 2071 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,040 We saving this for next time or you getting ready now? 2072 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,960 Let's let's save her for next time. 2073 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,680 Because I got versus. My friend. 2074 01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,480 Oh, I know you do. I brought all painless out. 2075 01:52:37,480 --> 01:52:38,960 I was like, oh snap, that one back. 2076 01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:43,320 Now. All right, everybody cool. 2077 01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,760 This was This is a fantastic show. 2078 01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,200 Let's go around the horn. Where can people find your work? 2079 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,200 Heidi, you start off. I'm Heidi Love. 2080 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,760 I'm at the Unfiltered Rise Everywhere. 2081 01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,840 Podcasts are served. I'm on Patreon with our new 2082 01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:00,040 Blood Atonement special, so check us out and we'll hope to 2083 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,320 see you there. Christopher, Jason. 2084 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,960 Jump on in. Yeah, we are Operation Red Pill. 2085 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,640 We release an episode every Wednesday at midnight. 2086 01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:15,760 Our home site is orppodcast.com. You can find us on Instagram at 2087 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:20,600 ORP Podcast, Facebook at ORP Podcast, and Patreon Patreon 2088 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,280 slash ORP Podcast. Check us out, show us some love 2089 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,400 and let us know what you think. Brandon, over to you. 2090 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:32,840 Yeah, you can find me Crowlogy Crow like my last name ology 2091 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,040 Laura under score one O 1 and for rumble Mana daily podcast 2092 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:41,720 all one word Patreon as well. Fantastic. 2093 01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:44,600 And if you're listening to me on one of these lovely people's 2094 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,600 platforms, I'm Drew Miston. If you're missing the Point 2095 01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:51,880 podcast, I'm in all the usual pod catches, Pod Bean, all the 2096 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,480 usual shows, all the usual places. 2097 01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,680 I'm going to close this show out with Romans 1620. 2098 01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,920 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. 2099 01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:05,080 The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you and Brandon as a new 2100 01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:06,760 member of the coalition. Would you like to finish the 2101 01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,440 show off with a prayer, brother? Oh, sure, absolutely. 2102 01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:15,720 Dear Heavenly Father, we just want to thank you for the gift 2103 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,200 of having the Holy Spirit and having these discussions. 2104 01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,960 Lord, it's a really deep and divine realm of, as Paul stated, 2105 01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:24,480 we we don't. He doesn't even understand the 2106 01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:26,240 mysteries of this great faith of ours. 2107 01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:30,280 We thank you for your son, and we thank you for the gift of 2108 01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:36,120 sharing this community, of being able to delve into your word, 2109 01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:41,400 Lord and try to understand great aspects, Lord, of of your 2110 01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:47,600 creation, of your mentality and of this war and family that 2111 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,760 you've invited us to participate in. 2112 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:54,000 Lord, it's it's truly a great honor and I I don't know how to 2113 01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,600 put it into words, but I'm just really grateful for brothers and 2114 01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:00,000 sisters that are seeking you in this day and age when a lot of 2115 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,000 churches have become very lukewarm. 2116 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,520 Lord, I I just want to ask for a blessing upon the hearers and 2117 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,280 listeners that they retain something from the discussion 2118 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:12,880 that was had, Lord, upon the people's lives that were a part 2119 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,120 of this discussion and panel that you just continue to open 2120 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:19,760 up our eyes and have our voices within your whole church. 2121 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,720 Lord, to speak boldly and come before the throne. 2122 01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:28,240 We are having questions and doubts about who you are and how 2123 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,640 we are supposed to be your ambassadors on Earth. 2124 01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,200 We ask that we honor you with our representation. 2125 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:38,720 And we're not the servant who's hiding our talents and hiding. 2126 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:43,040 Instead of standing forward before the throne and being bold 2127 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,680 with your word. Lord, we just want to thank you 2128 01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:51,200 again for letting us be your warriors. 2129 01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,960 Be your bride in your in your name we pray and ask all these 2130 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:55,720 things. Amen. 2131 01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:01,000 Amen. Once again, thank you lovely 2132 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,880 people. Gotta thank you all again for 2133 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,080 joining me on the coalition. I'm truly blessed to have found 2134 01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,000 such a wonderful group of friends and family. 2135 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:11,360 This little church that we gathered together in Brandon. 2136 01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,040 Thank you for joining us. Dropping. 2137 01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,360 Thank you for having me. Like a hammer. 2138 01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,800 As always, my friend. I'll patch you all next time.