1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,920 Crystal clear here the. Host of more morgalons. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:09,560 I'm just once again being booted out of my residence in spite of 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,240 paying the rent on time every time for over 2 years and I'm 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,760 going through my things to. Pack them up. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,360 I just. Opened this notebook. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,960 And it says business. Ideas. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Here's what I'm seeing written down. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,080 Kite incendiary device, levitator hat. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Merchandise return machine. Oh my God, that would make me 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,480 money. Offline social media platform I. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Believe those used to be called bars. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Personal letter club because. You don't want all your friends 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 to be prisoners. Silent vacuum tooth. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Growing Juice. Romantic Underwriter, Volcano 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,640 suit, Woman detector. I don't know if. 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,600 That's has something to do with. Trans. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,200 I'm not yokless. Egg Zoo. 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,840 Slide. I'm not sure what that means, 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,720 but who doesn't want to see an elephant slide? 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Fight fist the next wave of brass knuckles goat herding 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,520 device crystal. I think that's called. 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,600 A dog hilarity pill took that earlier igloo fireplace jogging 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,360 assist. That would be nice. 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Push me up this hill, Lash. Leash. 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,120 I guess that's if you try to get too far off your leash you get 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,920 lashed. Never stink, Cologne. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Which I. Believe is called deodorant a 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,040 riding. Dog because horses are 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,920 expensive. Stained glass car windows 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,120 tattoo. Consultant underwater plane I'm 31 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,400 assuming? That's. 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Different than a submarine somehow. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,560 I don't know. Whale saddle, A whale saddle and 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 the bed. And present instead of 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,920 breakfast. I guess you wake up and you get 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,840 a present instead of breakfast. Which is really. 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Not a bad idea, especially for those. 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Of us who don't eat breakfast. I know these are. 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,480 These are fucking $1,000,000 ideas y'all can have. 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,400 I'm pursuing other things right now and the best one on the list 41 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 and the thing that I wish I had right now, self. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Moving furniture? Just push the button. 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,240 The couch. Just falls out the door. 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,280 You guys see why it takes me fucking forever to pack my 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,840 house? Because I have to open every 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,520 notebook and be like. What kind of fucking weirdo 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,320 wrote? Down this shit. 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Oh, wait, it was me. But one of the things that I 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:22,320 came across as I was going through memories was all of my 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,200 old Morgalon remedies. Yes, I have so many creams and 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,320 ointments and pills and. Products. 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:40,880 It's nuts, you guys, It is nuts. It got me thinking about really 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:48,760 how much money we have all spent on this fucking bullshit trying 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,640 to get rid of it. And nothing works, at least in 55 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,640 my experience. Maybe you had better luck than 56 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,920 me. Some lady in Wichita is like you 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,720 have to try. Cat's tooth. 58 00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:59,960 Oil. Natural. 59 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Cat's tooth oil if you mix that with. 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,520 Honey and lime and Borax and just a drop of ammonia. 61 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,640 It does wonders. I mean I still have more to on, 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,800 but it begs the question what? Could. 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,200 We have done. If we had. 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:23,320 Instead of spent all our money on clean green debriding soap 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,040 horse paste my. Favorite cold tar lotion? 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Of course, Borax. What could we have? 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,000 Done if we had. Pooled our money together. 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Our resources together and actually put it towards 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,640 something that could help us. Get rid of this because the only 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,320 way that you. Help yourself get healthy is to 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880 get an idea of what is making you sick. 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,320 And at the very least. About figuring out what works in 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,360 the only way, that is. Actually valid have to set it up 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,760 where there's AU. It's one thing compared. 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 To not that thing. I don't know about y'all but 76 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,880 when I was trying to treat this I have like 6 different things 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 on my ass. With each piece of new evidence, 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,200 it becomes clear that in reality, nobody has really 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:18,519 seriously undertaken legitimate, rigorous scientific research. 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,360 About what this is. And that is so sad. 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,280 You know what I realized last night? 82 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:28,480 And I don't know how I forgot. I've been talking so much about 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,560 that 12,000 patient registry from the early 2000s and the 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Morgulon's Research Foundation that I forgot. 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,000 I forgot there's another patient registry, the Charles E Holman 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Foundation Registry. Back in 2020, when I first got 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,680 this, one of the first things I did was go on that website and 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,320 register myself. I put my. 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,920 Information in. I don't remember really what it 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,520 was asking for. I think it had to do with 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 symptoms. I don't remember it asked me 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 anything about where I lived or geography or duration. 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Maybe it did, but it. Begs the question. 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,600 Why have we? Not only been abandoned by 95 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:14,560 mainstream medicine and the. CDC, we've also. 96 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Been abandoned and. Scammed by the. 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Very organizations which claim. To be our. 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,160 Advocates. These are the people who say 99 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,320 we're going to figure this out for you. 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,600 We are on your. Side we believe. 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,240 You and we, we have, we have this. 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Too, even and we. Want to know what this is? 103 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,840 We have the expertise. We can refer you to people who 104 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,720 can treat you. I was looking at the CEHF 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,840 website yesterday and it says the Charles E Holman Foundation 106 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,000 is a grassroots activist organization that supports 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,440 research, education, diagnosis, and. 108 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Treatment of Morgellon's. Disease ultimately, we seek 109 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,400 discovery of its cause and cure we utilize creative 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,040 confrontation to expose any person or group opposing or 111 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,960 inhibiting education, awareness, or. 112 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,840 Recognition of Morgellon's. Disease The Charles E Holman 113 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:18,400 Foundation exists to play an integral role in spreading the 114 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,800 understanding of Morgellon's disease to others. 115 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,800 The CHF is committed to positive change through assertive. 116 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Action. OK, creative confrontation to 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 expose any person or group opposing or inhibiting 118 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,240 education, awareness or recognition of Morgellons 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,520 disease. Well, actually, that's what I'm. 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:43,040 Doing today on this episode, and it's not personal, it's just 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,880 necessary. You may like the Charles E 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,840 Holman Foundation. I'm. 123 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,920 Not saying that they've. Never done anything positive for 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,200 people. I know they have. 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,840 I know when you're desperate and you are completely along with. 126 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:58,160 This just. Having any resource, any 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,720 resource that is not telling you you're delusional. 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Thanks Mayo Clinic fuckers, that really can. 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Help in the moment. But when you zoom out and you 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,720 look at. This not. 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,360 From a place of panic or desperation or generosity and 132 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,080 you just look at it clear eyed and objectively what you see. 133 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Is. An organization that has truly 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:28,040 failed to deliver on every single promise that I just read. 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,720 You you want to talk about? Creative confrontation. 136 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Cindy Casey has never wrapped for you, has she? 137 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Never. Seen Randy Winemore sing put 138 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,800 out. Less than one paper per year, 139 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,920 every year, for like 19 years. And yet. 140 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,600 And everybody's still got morgalons. 141 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Weird. They're not. 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Doing. Tests like hey, let's run a 143 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 genetic profile on every single person and see. 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,040 If there's any correlation. Let's publish an epidemiological 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,480 study based upon the hundreds of thousands. 146 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,840 Of patients we've seen over the last 19 years. 147 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Let's actually do. A study that's a randomized, 148 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,480 controlled, blinded clinical. Trial of trying our treatments, 149 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,800 we say that work. Against a placebo to see if. 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,040 I don't know if they really work. 151 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,640 I mean to this day with two different patients registries 152 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,040 with probably. 10s of thousands. Of people, the only place for 153 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,680 any researcher to collaboratively go and look at a 154 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 data set and work with it is stuff that works dot. 155 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Health. I mean you can. 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Query their AI about the, you know, 2000 so or so reports they 157 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,440 have That's helpful. That's the only thing out there 158 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,240 and they. Didn't ask us. 159 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,200 For a. Dime it is. 160 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Time to audit the advocates. Both. 161 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Clinically and financially. All right, so we're going to 162 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,440 have a great episode. Thanks for listening. 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,320 About Cindy Casey Holman. She's an RN like me. 164 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,560 And then she starts developing Morgalon symptoms. 165 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Yeah, she gets bounced around the medical system, gets 166 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,040 diagnosed with delusions of parasitosis and self mutilation 167 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,640 by providers who, oh, surprise, won't even look at what she's 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,320 showing them. I'm crazy. 169 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,320 I know it's hard to believe, but that part is real. 170 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:28,440 That part is infuriating. And that part is why I started 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,120 this podcast. Here's where it goes sideways 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,920 though, guys. So the Morgans Research 173 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Foundation, you know, Scary Lado's operation, she refers 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,880 them, Casey and Charles to Ginger Savely, the nurse 175 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,400 practitioner in Austin, TX. We're all familiar with her by 176 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,800 now. If you've been listening to this 177 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,520 show, I got a whole episode about Savely. 178 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,080 And then it begins her journey with Safely and the treatment 179 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,960 paradigm that Safely recommends it. 180 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:04,440 It begins with Savely's office sending them a kit for Igenix. 181 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Now keep this in mind. Cindy has tested negative. 182 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:15,600 She's tested negative for Lyme disease 4 * / 5 years through 183 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,720 standard testing. Hygienics, however, comes back 184 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,520 positive. Huh, weird. 185 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:29,640 A chronic Lyme clinic recommending a lab that has been 186 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,040 fined and cited by the state of New York. 187 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Just actually, they lost their CLIA certification, meaning they 188 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,200 could not do business in 2001. It was reinstated in 2002. 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Here we are in 2004 and we're dealing with that particular lab 190 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,160 by Gen. X labs. 191 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Cindy's tested four times negative for Lyme and all of a 192 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,920 sudden pop, she's got Lyme disease. 193 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Amazing. Not sure how that happened. 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,080 And then Charles in the diary writes that they're quote, 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,920 ecstatic. So yeah, imagine being happy 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,920 your wife has Lyme disease. But that's what this shitty ass 197 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,600 medical exile and fear and desperation do to people. 198 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,840 So not judging. Totally get it. 199 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,280 So under, under Savely's care, Cindy has prescribed 1g of 200 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,320 Rocephin injected intramuscularly every three days 201 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,280 and then escalates that to every two days. 202 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Charles, for some reason, who's not a medical professional, he's 203 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,080 the one administering the injections at home to Cindy, and 204 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,200 he's joking about getting his nursing license. 205 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Cindy is a nurse, remember? She knows what I am. 206 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Rocephin is. But when you've been told you're 207 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,680 crazy by every doctor you've seen anyone who says, I believe 208 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:53,600 you, here's a needle. They start to look like a St. 209 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,960 And then after the Rocephin comes the Flagyl, which Charles 210 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:04,520 describes as an antifungal. He can be forgiven for that. 211 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,400 He's not a medical professional. But it's not an antifungal, It's 212 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,440 an antibiotic. It has some anti parasitic, anti 213 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,680 parasitic activity too. But but Cindy would have known 214 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:16,600 all this. She's pushed it IVA thousand 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 times in the ICU. Flagyl's a very common 216 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,760 antibiotic, but inside the Lyme literate treatment framework, 217 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,200 the pharmacology stops mattering. 218 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Charles's understanding of the treatment plan, because they 219 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,520 apparently did really good patient education, was that 220 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,440 Rocephin kills the bugs. Flagyl forces the critters out 221 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,000 of their cyst form back into the open for continued bombardment. 222 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,920 All right, you guys, if you can see them, they're not bacteria. 223 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Anyway, within a day of starting this flagyl medication, Cindy is 224 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,720 itching uncontrollably. Charles writes in the diary 225 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,920 about quote a few thousand tears before they drop the dose from 226 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,680 500 to 250. Then safely Ginger safely 227 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,960 suspects a Lyme Co infection, babesiosis. 228 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,160 By the way, this is from a phone call, a phone call from them 229 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,080 where she's itching and bitching, where Cindy's itching 230 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,560 and bitching. They call her after she starts 231 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:29,160 the flagyl and she's crying and she's itching and bitching and 232 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,720 she suspects a Lyme Co infection. 233 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Babesiosis. Can I just tell you the 234 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,720 presenting symptoms of babesiosis are like high fever, 235 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,720 shortness of breath, severe headache, full body aches, joint 236 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,680 pain, itching and bitching and crying are not the clinical 237 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,000 clinical presentation of babesiosis. 238 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,840 She does not have any blood work. 239 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,320 But why not? She's only on flagyl rocephin 240 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,960 and topical gentamicin. Let's start her on nephron and 241 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,520 zithromax. So that's on top of everything 242 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:12,520 else because of AI. Don't know a hunch, I guess I I 243 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,760 don't know why she's. Told she has babesiosis. 244 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 'Cause there was no clinical evidence or validation of that. 245 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,360 But why not just give you more antibiotics? 246 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,720 Anyway, by November 2004, Cindy's acinophils, which are a 247 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,880 type of white blood cell, they hit 58, you guys, for reference, 248 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,440 normal is below 10. Ginger calls and says stop the 249 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,240 rocephin immediately. They do and they do a redraw of 250 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 the lab to see if maybe 58 was wrong. 251 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,760 You know it was off. It shouldn't be that high. 252 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Well, it comes back even higher at 69 normal range. 253 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,680 You know, as I said, it's like usually like zero to seven, but 254 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,960 definitely under 10. You guys, that's not a side 255 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,400 effect. That's a potential medical 256 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,240 emergency caused by the treatment. 257 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Now granted acenophilia, which is what they call when you have 258 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,400 too many of these white blood cells called acenophils, it you 259 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,720 know, usually it's. Benign. 260 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Sometimes it's not. It can be a symptom of a life 261 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,480 threatening condition called dress syndrome. 262 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Something like drug reaction hypersensitivities with a 263 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,960 cenophilia with sensitivity. I don't I don't remember. 264 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,080 But it can lead to organ failure and death. 265 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,440 So Ginger is, at this point, a little concerned. 266 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,160 All right, At least she's catching up. 267 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,640 You're the one that gave it all to her. 268 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,200 But anyway, So she calls her old mentor the quote. 269 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,080 This is Charles's term here, infamous Doctor Rafael Stricker, 270 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,160 who agrees to see Cindy that day. 271 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Doctor Kathleen Grant also gets involved. 272 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,040 And Grant orders everything she's taking stopped, including 273 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 supplements. All in everything. 274 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,040 And, and then she draws 7 vials of blood to see what, what the 275 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,840 what have we? What have we got here? 276 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,640 What are we working with Stricker? 277 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,760 His office calls to schedule an initial consult. 278 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,600 It's 22 years ago. He's charging 500 bucks for the 279 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,040 initial consult. I believe it is now somewhere 280 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,240 around 900. And then follow up visits will 281 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,560 cost 250. And of course, do you think they 282 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,560 accept insurance? No, of course not. 283 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,080 None at all, period. So, yeah, getting better is only 284 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,800 for rich people. Thanks, America. 285 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Thanks, Stricker. Thanks, Savely. 286 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,360 And here's the part that should be on a billboard. 287 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,520 I'd actually like this to be on the Billboard. 288 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Like, maybe, like, right as you're pulling up to this clinic 289 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:00,120 that these people operate. By December, Cindy's feeling 290 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,400 much better off. All meds, right? 291 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,680 They stop everything in November, she's feeling like 292 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,560 shit. Nothing's getting better. 293 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,720 They stop all the meds and by December, Cindy's feeling much 294 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,920 better, Charles writes in the diary. 295 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,720 And you guys? I need you to hear this quote. 296 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,880 Cindy's feeling much better these days without the meds. 297 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:29,360 Go figure, Go figure. Question mark, question mark. 298 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,720 He literally punctuates it with double question marks. 299 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Cause y'all, the man sees it. He just, he can't quite process 300 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,680 what it means, but he sees it. Have y'all processed what it 301 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,400 means? So the lesions improve, the 302 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,160 eosinophils come down off everything. 303 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,840 The improvement correlates with stopping treatment, not starting 304 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,680 it, not staying on it, stopping it. 305 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,200 Now here's my little contribution to the data set. 306 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,680 I'm a little footnote that everybody might want to ignore, 307 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,200 but I got morgue, y'all. I've had it since 2020 and since 308 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,720 about 2021, maybe early into 2022. 309 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,800 I was part for the past year or so. 310 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,080 I, I'm, I'm pretty good, y'all, I'm pretty good. 311 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:28,120 So I'm I'm the control group, I'm the person who didn't go 312 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:31,120 crazy and take all these things that these quote line literate 313 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:35,680 doctors recommend. And my outcome is the same as 314 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Cindy's because have y'all seen Cindy here lately, these days? 315 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,200 You know, she put made that movie in 2019. 316 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,320 She don't have lesions all over her arms or her legs or her 317 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,480 face. She's looks like she's pretty 318 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,120 much in remission, right? Same as me. 319 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,440 So my outcome is the same as hers, except I didn't almost die 320 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,520 from a cenophilia or dress syndrome. 321 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,960 I didn't spend 10s of thousands of dollars and I didn't have 322 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,160 tom-tom, tom-tom tom-tom injecting me in the ass with 323 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Rocephin. A milligram or sorry, a gram of 324 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Rocephin every two days in a cabin in East Texas. 325 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Although I would love to go to a cabin in East Texas. 326 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,120 Really anywhere but this goddamn house that I am procrastinating 327 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,080 about moving. That is why I'm making this 328 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:30,800 podcast for amongst other reasons, but in the treatment 329 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,400 pipeline that the CHF promotes the Savely Stricker eyelids 330 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:42,240 axis, they've never conducted A randomized, blinded, controlled 331 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,040 drug trial. Not once in 20 years they've 332 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,520 treated probably thousands of patients worldwide with various 333 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,920 cocktails of antibiotics based on Lyme hypothesis and somehow 334 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,200 throw an ivermectin in there even though there's no worms in 335 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Lyme. They are doing this for decades 336 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,760 on a hypothesis that's never been proven. 337 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,280 The evidence base is entirely anecdotal without that blind 338 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,640 randomized. Controlled trial It is just the 339 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,040 only evidence there is is anecdotal, and the best 340 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:28,400 anecdotal evidence they have posted on their own website 341 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,560 shows a patient who improved after stopping the treatment 342 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:40,000 that could have killed her. I'm just saying, y'all, I'm just 343 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,440 saying if you go and read Cindy's diary. 344 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,880 Online on this CHF. Website you'll be like shit. 345 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:52,120 She got like not really any big major improvement from any of 346 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,600 the treatments. Then she got really sick from 347 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,440 all the crazy treatments and then she started to improve when 348 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,760 she stopped everything. So like, this is not me selling 349 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,520 you, you know, on a different treatment or telling you to 350 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,840 avoid treatment or even telling you not to go to these people. 351 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,960 If you love to throw your money away, throw it away. 352 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,840 By all means, come by Atlanta. Sprinkle some of my driveway if 353 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,240 you're just getting rid of it. Yeah. 354 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Yeah. I'm not telling you what to do. 355 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,400 I'm not even close to telling you what to do. 356 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,040 You know what's right for you. But I am telling you, proceed 357 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,800 with caution. There's no evidence for what 358 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 they're doing. They are professional guessers. 359 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,800 And since they're just guessing, well, I mean, you could just 360 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 guess, too. I ain't gonna lie. 361 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,680 There was a time in the early days of my own. 362 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,320 Word, gentleman's that. I was eating a shit ton of 363 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,200 Clindamycin made for fish. Yeah, who knew that fish had so 364 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,160 much? Acne. 365 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Strange. They're like. $5 for a bottle. 366 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Of 100. Did they work? 367 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,560 No. Nope. 368 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Anyway, but I did save myself probably like $10,000 after all 369 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,880 these treatments with Savely. And Stricker. 370 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,360 And he says Cindy's feeling much better these days without. 371 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:11,080 The meds. So he literally punctuates that 372 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,240 with double. Question marks. 373 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,680 Because the man sees it, he just can't process what it means. 374 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,560 The lesions improve, the cinaphils come down off of 375 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,640 everything the improvement correlates with. 376 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Stopping treatment, not starting or staying on their treatment. 377 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,000 The treatment pipeline that the CEHF promotes, the Savely 378 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,440 Stricker Eye Labs access, has never conducted A randomized, 379 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240 blinded, controlled drug trial, not once in 20. 380 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Years. They've treated thousands of 381 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,320 patients worldwide with various cocktails. 382 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Of antibiotics and. Ivermectin and God only fucking 383 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,600 knows what else based on a lime hypothesis, although I would. 384 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Want to ask? Why are you giving them? 385 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:58,080 Ivermectin has nothing to do. With lime, and I don't know if 386 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,480 you guys remember this, but back before the CEH, F1 was still the 387 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,640 MRF. They were saying. 388 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,720 The antibiotics didn't. Work. 389 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Yes, when they were with the MRF, they said that there was 390 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,720 not an adequate response to antibiotics and the treatment of 391 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,680 morgolons, yet that's what they've continued. 392 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,960 To treat for decades. Now and then, the foundation 393 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,640 that is also recommending this pipeline has on her website 394 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,720 anecdotal evidence that it will not only not help you, but it 395 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,000 might make you sick and it's definitely going to cost you 396 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,280 thousands of dollars. OK, Speaking of money, let's 397 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,360 talk about the money at Charles B Homan Foundation since they 398 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:44,080 don't disclose transparently or publish on their own website 399 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,200 their financials, what their program monies are being used 400 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,560 for. But I, I will put on the cover 401 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,520 art of this episode, a little table to show how much money 402 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,160 they've taken in, how much money has gone out. 403 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,280 I've got from 2013 to 2021. That's what I could find. 404 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,120 You may be able to find more information, but honestly, it's 405 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,680 silly. That you have to go look. 406 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,160 This should be. On their website. 407 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,280 In 21 the latest year I could identify find online, not saying 408 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,960 they don't exist but the only one, the latest most recent one 409 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,880 I could find was from 2021. They took in 23,000 and $79 and 410 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:33,240 they spent $5328.00. It's not a lot of spending, but 411 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040 the total documented revenue. Not the total revenue. 412 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:44,360 The total documented revenue I could find was roughly $371,000 413 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,560 / 9 years. Every single officer and board 414 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440 members, Cindy Casey Holman, Greg Smith, Denise James, all of 415 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,880 them, they're compensated as a 0. 416 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,000 So they don't get paid. According to their IRS filings, 417 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,400 0 liabilities for the foundation every year. 418 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,040 And by 2021, they're sitting on $62,000 in assets while spending 419 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560 only 5000. So the foundation is basically 420 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,800 like, I don't know, like a parked car with the engine 421 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,920 running. What are y'all doing? 422 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Here's what's missing filings for 2008, nine, 1011 and 12. 423 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Those are not in the pro publica database. 424 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,560 Those are the years between Charles's death and when the 425 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,880 digitized records begin. There's also the period, you 426 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,360 know, when the MRF dissolved and CDC study was underway and then 427 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,080 published. So the Charles E Holman 428 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Foundation was supposedly building itself into the This is 429 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,320 their words quote recognized authority and primary funding 430 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560 source for more Jellens research. 431 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Five years of financial darkness at the most critical inflection 432 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,360 point in the organization's history. 433 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Take of it what you will. Maybe they're out there. 434 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920 I can't find them. If you find them, send me an 435 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,240 e-mail more morgalons@gmail.com or send it to my website 436 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,040 moremorgalons.com. 2022 through 2025. 437 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,520 Those are also missing, which could be a processing lag or 438 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,360 could mean they've dropped below $50,000 revenue and switched to 439 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:12,160 the 990 and E postcard, which contain no financial details. 440 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:18,200 And what does the Charles E Home and Foundation website tell 441 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320 donors? About where their money goes. 442 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Nothing 0 There's no annual report, there's no financial 443 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,360 disclosures, no posted nine 90s, no program spending breakdown, 444 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,640 no audited financials. There's a donate button and. 445 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,000 APO Box. That's it y'all, I work for a 446 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 non profit. We posted where our program 447 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,560 money was going. That's like what you do. 448 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,240 That's the bare minimum of accountability when you're 449 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720 asking sick, desperate people to give you money. 450 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 All right. Part 3 the funnel Here's where 451 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,200 the clinical and the financial audits converge. 452 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,800 I know y'all have been on the edges of your seats waiting for. 453 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800 This you're like is. She still talking about fucking 454 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,560 IRS forms? This show used to be good, but 455 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,200 it's. Terrible now. 456 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Sorry y'all. I'm into it. 457 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,320 I don't care if you're into it. You don't have to listen. 458 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,320 Nobody asked you to. This is going to be the best 459 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,640 part though. Listen. 460 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 The CEHF website. Has a page called. 461 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,760 What is morgalons? Think about that for a second 462 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,520 y'all. Think about that. 463 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,800 The organization has existed for 19 years. 464 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Its stated mission is quote discovery of its cause and. 465 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Cure and the. Page that should answer the 466 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,800 fundamental question. The page a newly diagnosed 467 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,000 person lands on or self diagnosed like me and my case 468 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,760 back in the. Day. 469 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200 That page is still framed as a. Question. 470 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,720 But it's not. Actually a question because if 471 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,240 you look at what the foundation promotes, they've already. 472 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Picked an. Answer It's Lyme. 473 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,160 The home page right now, I think March 2026 features Ralphie L 474 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,560 Stricker paper on persistent Borrelia infection and a post 475 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600 about Lyme disease advocacy on Capitol Hill and the annual 476 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,440 conference. So this is the same Raphael 477 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Stricker who was charging 500 bucks in a bit for a visit in 478 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,480 2004. The same treatment framework 479 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,240 that almost fucking killed Cindy Casey Holman with a cenophilia 480 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 and didn't make her better. And the only thing that did make 481 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,680 her better was stopping their. Treatments. 482 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,920 So which is it? If you don't know what Morgolons 483 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,800 is, stop promoting a specific. Treatment framework and the. 484 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,440 Providers who profit from it. If you do know it's Lyme 485 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,880 related, well, change the damn name of your page and show your 486 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440 evidence, specifically the randomized controlled trial 487 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,840 you've never conducted. You can't be both like the 488 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,480 humble we're still searching nonprofit and the promotional 489 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680 arm of a specific clinical pipeline. 490 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,880 That's not a foundation, that's like a funnel. 491 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Desperation goes in on one end and money comes out the other 492 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,160 into the pockets of cash only lime literate providers who have 493 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,360 never proven their treatments work. 494 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120 And then there's me, sitting here with the same condition, 495 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120 having done pretty much nothing for most of the time. 496 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,400 I've had this and I'm lesion free. 497 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,720 I mean I still got Medusa hair like a mother fucker but I'm 498 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,600 lesion free. Right now I'm the. 499 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,480 Footnote Nobody wants to read.