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Because I don't control the 
weather, I'd like to say rain, 

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rain, go away. 
If you don't, well, that's OK. 

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Wow. 
It's lightning and thundering 

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here in Atlanta. 
And I'm back crystal clear, 

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bringing you another episode of 
More Mortal Lines. 

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First, I want to tell you a 
story. 

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Gather round possibly a 
Wednesday, maybe a Thursday, and

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it no longer matters. 
There's a guy he's like, maybe, 

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I don't know, 4951 somewhere 
around there, and he's standing 

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in the hardware store. 
He's got a basket in the basket.

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I see he has a gallon of 
distilled white vinegar, a box 

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of Borax, copper mesh, you know,
like the kind for keeping rats 

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out of pipes. 
A roll of aluminum window 

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screen, small propane torch, and
a pair of tweezers from the 

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Impulse bio rack by the register
that I guess he picked up on his

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way in. 
He is now standing in the 

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plumbing aisle holding two 
different sizes of copper pipe 

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and looking at them like he's 
trying to decide what to eat. 

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Kid comes up wearing the orange 
vest or whatever. 

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Right Sir? 
He's like maybe 20 kind of curly

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hair that, you know, that like 
kind of hairdo that flips to, 

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they flip it to the side like 
long bangs. 

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You finding everything OK, Sir? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, I'm, I'm good. 
You doing a? 

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Project The dude puts the 
smaller pipe back the copper 

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pipe. 
He picks up the larger copper 

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pipe. 
He puts it back, picks up the 

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smaller 1 again. 
'Cause if you could tell me what

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you're doing, I can probably 
point you to. 

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It's kind of a personal thing. 
Oh, OK. 

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It's not, it's not. 
It's nothing weird. 

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I I didn't say it was. 
I I know, I'm just saying, the 

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kid glances down at the basket. 
He's looking at the winner, at 

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the Borax, the torch, the 
tweezers. 

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He does not say anything about 
the basket, he says. 

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Do you need? 
Flux what? 

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For the copper, if you're 
soldering you need flux and you 

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need a lead free solder or one 
aisle over. 

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I'm I'm not soldering, OK, I'm 
I'm doing something else with 

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it. 
OK. 

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Do you have is? 
Is there a finer? 

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Mesh than this. 
Than the window screen. 

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How fine? 
Finer. 

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Like what are you trying to keep
out? 

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The guy looks at him, the 
employee, you know the employee.

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He's got his lanyard, he's got 
the vest on, and he's asking a 

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reasonable question. 
Smaller stuff. 

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Books. 
Smaller, like dust in between. 

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Kid nods. 
We have a 200 mesh stainless in 

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the back. 
It's for, I think it's for like 

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panning, gold panning or I 
don't. 

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I don't know what it's for 
honestly, but it's the finest we

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carry. 
I'll take it. 

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How much? 
How much do you have? 

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I'd have to check. 
The kid goes off and the guy is 

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standing there in the aisle 
looking at the basket, the 

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propane torch. 
He gets out, he shakes it for 

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some reason by his ear. 
I don't know what he's listening

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for. 
He puts the propane torch back 

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in the basket. 
There's a lady with a kid like a

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little toddler walking past the 
end of the aisle and the toddler

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looks at the guy and the guy 
looks at the toddler. 

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The toddler keeps looking the 
way you know they do with no 

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social contract whatsoever. 
He looks away first. 

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The employee gets. 
Back. 

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We got about four feet of it on 
a roll. 

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I'll take it all. 
OK, you want me to grab it or? 

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Yeah, please. 
And hey. 

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Yeah. 
Where's your you sell like 

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diamatis Earth that would be. 
Garden section. 

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Food grade. 
I think let's all feel great. 

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I think that's all we carry. 
OK, you want me to? 

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I'll find. 
Just the mesh. 

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Thanks. 
The kid leaves. 

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The guy stands there. 
He takes the tweezers out of the

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basket and looks at them. 
Cheap drugstore tweezers, 

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blister packed 399. 
He puts them back in the basket.

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Then he takes them out again and
walks them 4 feet to the rack 

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and hangs them back up. 
Then he stands there for another

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second and takes them down again
and puts them back in the 

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basket. 
And then he goes towards the 

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garden center. 
All right, now, everybody out 

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there listening, raise your hand
if you recognize exactly what 

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this story is about. 
OK, I think I'm seeing everyone 

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except for the confused people 
who stumbled upon this and do 

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not have Morgolons. 
What are the dead giveaways at? 

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Hello. 
The Borax, the propane torch, 

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the mesh. 
You know what is he building? 

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Is he treating himself for 
something? 

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Is he building a time machine 
back to the time before he got 

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morgalons? 
Is he? 

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We don't know. 
He may not even know, but he has

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to do something. 
And that is the scenario in 

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which you may find yourself if 
you are unfortunate enough to 

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catch Morgans. 
I don't know if you catch them. 

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I don't know if they catch you. 
Gazuntayk. 

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You're welcome. 
Why are they always in the bed 

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sheets? 
I don't know. 

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We could just as easily have 
done another scene, another 

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story. 
Maybe two women in a laundromat,

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one of them's taking up 7 units.
She's pouring pine Sol, Borax 

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and cedar oil into the washer 
when she thinks no one is 

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looking. 
But she's on CCTV. 

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You know, you know out there, 
you who have sold your 

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furniture, you who have gone on 
what I call scapecations. 

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And that is the desperate 
fleeing from what is perceived 

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as the contaminated environment 
that many believe if they can 

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escape, they will somehow be 
able to finally get rid of their

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morgalons. 
And as we all know, that is not 

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the way that this works. 
Well, maybe some of you don't 

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know yet. 
And it is for all of you whom I 

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pray. 
What is it about this thing? 

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Like the guy in the hardware 
store, he has a system. 

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Who knows what the fuck the 
system is going to do except 

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sound insane if he describes it 
out loud, and he's being asked 

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entirely reasonable questions by
someone who is not the enemy. 

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But this is the form of the 
story. 

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The experience is incoherent at 
the level of physics, and it's 

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stereotyped at the level of 
biography, recognizable, 

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repeatable at the level of 
biography. 

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We know this because we've told 
our stories on here and they are

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so very similar in so many ways.
So that's two things that should

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not be true at the same time. 
Incoherent at the level of 

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physics, stereotyped at the 
level of our life stories. 

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Everyone's story is impossible. 
And yet everyone's story is like

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the same story. 
And raise your hand. 

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If you've sold all your 
furniture, raise your hand If 

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you've shaved your head, raise 
your hand. 

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If you have put each of your 
garments in separate sealed 

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Ziploc bags, raise your hand if 
you have browsed the aisles of a

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hardware store like it was ACVS.
Morgalons is what you call a 

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self censoring mechanism. 
You can't tell people what 

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you're buying these things for, 
what you're doing with your 

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diamatosers. 
You can't explain to anybody 

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about the glitter coming out of 
your skin, about your moving 

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hair, because it sounds crazy. 
What you're doing looks crazy. 

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If you try to describe why 
you're doing it, you sound 

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crazy. 
You're aware you sound crazy 

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even, and yet you tell the truth
and sound like a nut job, Hey? 

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Or you consent to self 
censorship, self erasure, and 

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social exile. 
That's a motherfucker of a 

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choice right there, y'all. 
There's no good ones. 

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All responses to that choice are
justifiable, including going 

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fucking nuts. 
Which is just ironic, isn't it? 

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I just want to let you know I 
see you all, all of y'all out 

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there listening. 
I see you. 

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I see you, hardware guy lady at 
the laundromat with your pine 

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Sol, your Borax and your cedar 
oil and your baking soda and 

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seven fucking washers going at 
once. 

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You look crazy. 
All of y'all look crazy. 

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All of y'all sound crazy. 
And I me the bat shittiest 

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insane one of all. 
I know it's true. 

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I know how I sound because I 
refuse to tell anything but the 

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truth about what has happened to
me, and I judge no one. 

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Who. 
Perhaps you would not like to 

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risk being involuntarily 
committed. 

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Perhaps you would not like to 
risk being fired from your job 

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or excluded from your 
profession. 

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Or perhaps you would not like to
lose custody. 

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You would not like to become a 
social pariah and outcast 

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amongst your friends and family.
All of those responses are 

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absolutely, well, they're 
necessary to survive. 

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If you would like to tell your 
story on more morgalons or just 

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leave a comment or a voicemail 
for the show or a message that 

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you want me to read on the air, 
do it. 

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Do it, girl. 
Do it, dude in the hardware 

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store. 
Do it. 

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Do it more morgalons.com. 
All right, so here's the thing I

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have to say out loud, because a 
listener, Kate and I figured 

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this out on an episode way back 
when. 

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It's called Morgalon's Gospel. 
It's it's a great one. 

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Go back and listen if you 
haven't heard it. 

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But we figured this out and I, I
this, this thing out on that 

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episode and I keep coming back 
to it. 

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You can tell what stage of 
morgues somebody is in by what 

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they think it is. 
I'm not kidding. 

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It's like carbon dating. 
Tell me what you think you have.

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I'll tell you approximately when
it started. 

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Month 1-2 scabies. 
Every time you got the cream 

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from the doctor, the cream 
didn't work. 

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Then you got the cream again. 
The cream still didn't work. 

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Then you started trying 
ivermectin and that didn't work.

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Then you went on the Internet 
and bought more ivermectin 

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because clearly it's the 
American cream and the doctor's 

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ivermectin that's the problem. 
But it still doesn't go away. 

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Months 345. 
Now it's worms. 

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Specifically horsehair worms. 
Maybe you've got carpet beetles.

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No siems, anyone Strangeloides. 
There's always a parasite. 

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Worms, bugs face. 
Everybody goes through this. 

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You start identifying larvae 
like you're at the Smithsonian, 

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you've got a little dish, You've
probably got a magnifier by now.

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You're emailing entomologists 
and the entomologists are not 

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emailing you back. 
You've probably landed on spring

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tails call Ebola because now 
you're deep. 

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Now you found the Oklahoma 
study. 

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Now you're on pub Med at 2:00 in
the morning. 

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You got tabs open. 
You will never close. 

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At some point, you're definitely
going to get tested for Lyme 

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disease. 
Yep, it's got to be ticks. 

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Maybe when all that proves to be
not what it is, here come the 

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nanobots. 
Welcome. 

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We've been expecting you smart 
dust, morgalons fiber says 

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antennas, 5G Profusa Darba, the 
whole apparatus. 

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And listen, some of that threat 
is real research worth doing and

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some of it is where people lose 
the plot. 

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And the difference between the 
two requires you to actually 

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read the documents, which most 
people don't do, which is fine. 

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That's why I have a podcast. 
But but then there's something 

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after all that. 
If you make it, you arrive at 

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morgalons. 
Just morgolons. 

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You stop trying to cram it into 
something you already have a 

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name for. 
You sit with the fact that you 

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have a thing. 
The thing has features, The 

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features don't map cleanly onto 
really anything in the merch 

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index, and the people whose job 
it is to figure that out have 

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decided, Nope, not going to do 
it. 

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That's the final stage. 
Acceptance is not really the 

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right word. 
Maybe the word I'm looking for 

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is resignation. 
But here's why this matters and 

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why I'm bringing it up. 
Diseases don't do this. 

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Diseases have stages of symptoms
they do not have, stages of what

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the people who have it think 
they have. 

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Lupus does not have a carpet 
beetle phase as a strep throat 

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patients do not go through a 
nanobot era. 

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The fact that thousands of 
people who have never ever met 

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each other across the world, who
in a lot of cases got sick 

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before they ever heard the word 
morgalons, they all March 

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through the same sequence of 
wrong answers in roughly the 

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same order. 
That, my friend, is a finding 

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that is data. 
In any other condition, somebody

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would write a paper about it. 
Here, the sequence itself gets 

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called the disease. 
Like, oh, you went through the 

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bug phase and the tech phase 
confirmed crazy. 

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Case closed. 
But think about what that 

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pattern actually requires. 
Either the thing genuinely 

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presents differently at 
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and I think it does. 
You know, looks parasitic early,

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looks fibrous in the middle, 
looks engineered late, in which 

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case the progression is telling 
you something in real about 

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what's happening in the tissue 
over time. 

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Or human beings, when confronted
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symptoms, fail at pattern 
matching in a stereotyped 

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sequence, which is also 
extremely interesting and not 

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what brains usually do. 
And both of these are real 

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findings. 
Delusion is not synchronized 

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across strangers on multiple 
continents who've never spoken 

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to each other. 
And on top of the cognitive 

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stages, you've got the 
behavioral stages, which y'all 

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already know because we just 
spent that whole scene at the 

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beginning in a hardware store. 
The Borax phase, DE phase, 

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copper, You know, everybody's 
building a Faraday cage at some 

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point. 
The phase where you know things 

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just keep getting more and more 
extreme. 

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The furniture phase, selling 
your shit, the Ziploc bags with 

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all your stuff, the washing your
sheets every single fucking day,

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shaving your head. 
These also progress like that 

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hardware store guy I told you 
all about in the in the 

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beginning. 
He is like mid arc in his 

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morgalon's journey. 
He's past denial. 

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He's in the systems building. 
He hasn't hit the wall yet where

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you realize you cannot Home 
Depot your way out of this shit 

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that comes later. 
For some people it doesn't come 

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at all and they just keep going 
to Home Depot forever. 

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God bless them. 
So when I say the response to 

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the disease is itself pathog 
pneumonic, meaning it is 

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specifically this thing, only 
this thing, When I say that, 

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that's what I mean. 
There's a shape to it, there's a

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sequence. 
It is recognizable. 

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There's no mistaking it. 
If you have it, you instantly 

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recognized what was going on 
with that guy at the hardware 

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store and that right there, that
means something. 

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That says something, and what it
doesn't say is mass delusion. 

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But we already know that. 
Well, most of us do. 

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Some of y'all are probably 
questioning your sanity, and 

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nobody could blame you for that.
Nobody could blame you for that 

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when all the authorities and 
your friends and your family are

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telling you you're nuts. 
It's not crazy to be like, well,

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all right, I guess I'll try the 
antipsychotic. 

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But my friends, you are not 
nuts. 

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What you have, it's nuts. 
You don't have a belief in 

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fibers. 
You got 25,000 pictures of those

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fibers in your phone gallery 
right now and I guarantee you 

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they match mine exactly. 
So I just wanted to say that 

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because we all need to hear it, 
some more than others. 

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You are not crazy. 
Listen to this episode as many 

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times as you need to to just 
hear that you are not crazy. 

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This is not your imagination. 
I know that because it's 

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happened to me and I don't trust
myself. 

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I trust the evidence and there 
is evidence. 

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All right, so just a couple 
quick updates before I close out

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the episode today. 
I wanted to share with you that 

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I have submitted another open 
records request to Oklahoma, 

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this time to the state 
Department of Health to get more

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information about our friend 
Debbie Altshuler, the 

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Leismeister guru mogul who did a
commissioned a paper with the 

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then Oklahoma Commissioner of 
Health, Mike Crutcher and a 

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couple of Romanian scientists, 
one of whom died before the 

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study was published. 
But they called it Callum Bola. 

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The paper was later proven to be
the the photographs in the study

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were manipulated. 
I would like to know more about 

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that, wouldn't you? 
I'd like to know a lot more 

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about that study, why it was 
done, who, when, what, where, 

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why, where, where was the money,
etcetera. 

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So the other thing I wanted to 
tell you about something landed 

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in my mailbox this week that I 
want to put on the record. 

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So some of y'all who listened to
the show may remember. 

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A few weeks back I filed A45-O6A
form with the IRS. 

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That's the form you use to 
request copies of A5O1C3's tax 

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filings. 
The Five O 1C3 is a nonprofit 

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organization. 
These are public documents. 

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Anyone can ask for them. 
So I asked for the Morgalons 

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Research Foundation's 990 
filings with the IRS for the 

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years 2009, 2010 and 2011 than 
the last three years of the 

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organization's existence, 
including the year it 

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terminated. 
Why those years specifically? 

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Because the IRS already has 
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2005, 2006, 2007, 2008. 
So we've got those years. 

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You know of the 990 N the little
postcard you file when your 

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nonprofit takes in less than 50 
grand. 

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Here's the weird thing. 
After 2008, the public record 

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goes dark. 
Morgalon's Research Foundation 

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kept operating for three more 
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They published a paper in 2010. 
They kept the website up. 

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They kept the donate button 
alive. 

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They kept being cited in media 
coverage, kept being the 

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institutional face of Morgalon's
advocacy right up to and through

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the CDC's 2012 paper. 
Then the organization terminated

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and for those final three years,
the years when the money would 

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have been moving, the years when
the books would tell you who was

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funding what, the year a 
schedule N would have documented

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where the assets, including the 
public registry went on the way 

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out. 
There's no public filing. 

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And when I asked the IRS for 
them, this is what the IRS wrote

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back and said. 
They said they could not provide

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the documents. 
And then they gave me 3 possible

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reasons ready. 
One, the records are 

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unavailable. 2, the records are 
not open to public inspection 

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under section 61 O 43 the 
records were destroyed under the

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six year retention rule. 
They didn't tell me which reason

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applied to which year. 
They gave me all three reasons 

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stacked together, covering all 
three years like a multiple 

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choice question where they're 
not going to tell you the 

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answer. 
And now let me walk you through 

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why that's weird. 
Reason #2 cites section 61 O 4. 

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Section 61 O 4 is the law that 
makes nine 90s public in the 1st

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place. 
The exceptions under 61 O four 

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are narrow, basically donor 
names on schedule B and pending 

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exemption applications. 
A file 990 from a defunct public

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charity does not have a 61 O 4 
exception that hides the whole 

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form. 
There's no such thing. 

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So that reason on its face does 
not apply to what I asked for. 

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And it's a really weird reason 
to give reason #3 the six year 

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destruction window. 
The IRS routinely makes nine 90s

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available going back decades. 
That's how I got the earlier 

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ones right. 2000 and four, 2000 
and five, 2000 and six, 2007 and

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2008. 
Pro publica. 

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They have a nonprofit Explorer. 
It has nine 90s from the 1990s. 

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If you ask for an active org's 
1998 filing tomorrow, you'll 

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probably get it. 
The six year rule is something 

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they invoke when they genuinely 
cannot locate a document. 

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Not like a blanket policy. 
They apply to every request 

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older than 2018. 
And if it were a blanket policy,

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it would still not explain 
reason #2 existing on the same 

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letter. 
Because reason #1 unavailable is

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not actually a reason, it's a 
description of the outcome. 

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For an organization that 
solicited donations from sick 

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people across multiple countries
and then dissolved without the 

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public ever seeing where the 
money went, That is not fucking 

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cool. 
I'm keeping the letter. 

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The letter itself is now part of
the record. 

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Because the vagueness is the 
artifact. 

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When you ask a clean question 
and get a stacked, nonspecific, 

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internally inconsistent answer, 
that's data about the system 

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you're interacting with. 
After the IRS letter came back 

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with the three multiple choice 
answers, I went and pulled the 

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Pennsylvania Department of State
business records for the Morgans

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Research Foundation. 
Because here's the thing about a

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501-C3 It lives in two places at
once. 

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It lives at the federal level 
with the IRS, which is where the

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tax filings go, and it lives it,
and it lives at the state level 

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with whatever Secretary of State
office it incorporated under, 

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which is where the corporate 
existence is registered. 

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Pennsylvania in this case, and 
Pennsylvania, y'all, 

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Pennsylvania got receipts. 
I'm looking at the full 

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amendment history for the 
Moreland Research Foundation on 

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the Pennsylvania Department of 
State website right now. 

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Initial filing April 29th, 2004.
Articles of Amendment for a name

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change in January of 2005, Weird
change of registered office by 

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the entity April 27th, 2006, 
change of registered agent to a 

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commercial provider called 
Incorp Services, Inc, February 

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20th, 2007. 
And then the dissolution of the 

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Foundation was filed April 24th,
2012, effective after March 

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26th, 2012. 
Every entry has a control ID. 

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Every entry is time stamped. 
The state knows exactly when 

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this organization came into 
existence, when it changed its 

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name, when it moved its 
registered office, when it 

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brought in a commercial 
registered agent, and when it 

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formally dissolved. 
Pennsylvania has a full 

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continuous 8 year paper trail, 
the IRS for the same 

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organization. 
During the years that fall 

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inside that paper trail, it says
the records are unavailable, 

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exempt, or destroyed. 
So one of two things is 

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happening. 
Either two different government 

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agencies are looking at the same
organization and one of them is 

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keeping records and the other 
one isn't. 

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In which case I would like to 
know why the federal tax 

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authority has worse records than
the Pennsylvania Department of 

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State. 
Or the records exist at the 

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federal level and somebody just 
doesn't want to send them to me.

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In which case I would also like 
to know why that is. 

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And here's the part that 
matters. 

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When A5O1C3 formally dissolves 
articles of dissolution with the

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state, the way the IRS requires 
a final Form 990 with something 

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called Schedule N, Schedule N 
documents What happened to the 

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organization's assets on the way
out, where the money went, who 

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got the remaining property, 
Whether the assets were 

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transferred to another tax 
exempt organization as they're 

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supposed to be. 
So the MRF Final 990 with 

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Schedule N would be filed for 
tax year 2011, maybe 2012. 

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Those are exactly the years that
IRS just told me are 

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unavailable, exempt, or 
destroyed.