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Forgiveness, though, is not 
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The reason I so smoothly wove 
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forgot to say that first. 
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us when we're wounded? 
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Some of us, well, they heard us.
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know how I felt. 
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admit that and say that revenge 
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And we watch enough of it, don't
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We watch enough TV and movies 
where people get that really 

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snappy comeback. 
They slam that door and you 

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watch that person cry and you're
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That's what I want. 
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they hurt me because then 
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That's for some people. 
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exact revenge, except it is 
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They just want to go and they 
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bunch of other people and feel 
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that they feel. 
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no matter which way you slice 
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It's all about us, isn't it? 
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this whole series has been about
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church. 
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humanity that should get 
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Christians? 
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That's our whole thing. 
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our decorative tables and walls 
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Scripture says that those who 
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much and we forgive much. 
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forgiven by God, but we struggle
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like it is easy to forgive 
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not natural. 
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supernatural life. 
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biggest moments I've ever seen, 
one of the most famous modern 

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moments of forgiveness happened 
in 2006, and this was a horrific

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there was a small Amish 
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there was a man who walked into 
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Nickel Mines is where it was 
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act where he opened fire and the
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children were killed, all of 
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That was a shocking moment that 
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shocking was what happened 
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Because as the news media tried 
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to process all of this, what you
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that flowed out of this Amish 
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Almost immediately, and I mean 
this almost immediately, members

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from this community started 
speaking out publicly to the 

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news, not about how much they 
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course they were and still are 
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But they started speaking about,
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Not months later, immediately, 
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went to visit the gunman's 
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Donations were taken up in the 
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his widow and children. 
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care what channel you watch, 
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people outside of the church, 
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struggled to understand it 
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so kind to somebody who's taken 
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But to be clear this morning, I 
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forgiveness does not mean that 
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It doesn't erase the grief or 
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It doesn't magically take away 
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A lot of these families carried 
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their lives and still do. 
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forgiveness isn't for them, it's
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It's wrong. 
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They need it and so do you. 
It's wrong to teach forgiveness 

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is not for them, it's for you. 
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about you and now it's a selfish
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Well, I'm not going to forgive 
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going to do it because it's 
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Go ahead and treat yourself. 
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forgive us, but he did. 
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above our base human 
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This forgiveness didn't make it 
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hatred from becoming the 
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lives. 
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who later on spoke about the 
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schoolhouse. 
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lose two kinds of people. 
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ourselves. 
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because it recognizes something 
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think about. 
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contained in the original wound.
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everything else. 
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It affects how you see people, 
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interpret situations, and 
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yourself over time. 
Bitterness has a way of turning 

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pain into your identity. 
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unforgiveness and bitterness. 
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happens and you're wounded and 
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Bitterness is when you sit on it
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goes over and over and you 
replay it and you talk about it 

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and talk about it and talk about
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the same situation it initially 
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now it's got roots. 
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want to live? 
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community, understood something 
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Forgiveness is not pretending it
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It's choosing that the hurt will
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defines your future. 
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forgiveness so important to real
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survive in an environment where 
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Don't, Don't move your eyes to 
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But put your hand up. 
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ever hurt you or wounded you, 
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everybody who's willing to do 
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Of course it's happened. 
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Lodge, promise you, I don't 
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why'd you have to bring that up?
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it will never happen if we don't
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This is true in families and in 
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It's true in marriages and it is
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the longer people stay close to 
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By the way, how many of y'all 
have like some long term 

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relationships? 
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opportunities you have for hurt.
Misunderstandings happen, words 

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get spoken poorly, expectations 
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wounds are accidental and 
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very intentional. 
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survive, then at some point 
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go of what they have every right
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I'm asking you to think about 
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the natural, you know, you have 
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And we'll talk about how and 
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not as easy as it sounds. 
By the time we arrive here in 

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Second Samuel 16. 
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something. 
This was yesterday's Bible 

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reading plan. 
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Like, we planned this a while 
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put that together. 
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he's collapsing in grief. 
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God's own heart, His own son, 
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the people, launched A rebellion
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He's publicly humiliated, 
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He has no clue what's going to 
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As a matter of fact, he says 
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His leadership is under attack. 
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the weight of betrayal is 
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It is right here, when David is 
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shame, that a man called Shimi 
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Starting in verse 5, as King 
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came out of the village cursing 
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And if you're following some of 
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the first king of Israel. 
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the old king. 
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and now he's gloating in the 
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apart. 
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isn't it, when we rejoice in 
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It says in verse 6, he threw 
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King's officers and all the 
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him. 
Get out of here, you murderer, 

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you scoundrel. 
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The Lord is paying you back for 
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clan. 
You stole his throne, and now 

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the Lord has given it to your 
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At last you will taste some of 
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murderer. 
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Anyway, here comes Abishai. 
Why should this dead dog curse 

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my Lord the king? 
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nephew, the son of his sister 
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His sister demanded and he said,
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head. 
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No, the king said. 
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you sons of Zoruai? 
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don't know why. 
We'll get more to that in a 

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moment. 
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him to curse me, who are you to 
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Who here has that maturity? 
I heard this person said this 

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about you. 
Well, maybe the Lord told him to

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put a curse on me. 
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a curse that has no legitimacy 
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But listen. 
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all his servants, My own son is 
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Doesn't this relative of Saul 
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Leave him alone, let him curse, 
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it. 
And perhaps the Lord will see 

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that I'm being wronged and he'll
bless me because of these curses

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today. 
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So David and his men continued 
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pace with them on a nearby 
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stones and dirt at David. 
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were running out. 
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The king and all who were with 
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So I want you to notice this. 
Shimiai is not attacking David 

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at the height of his strength, 
he is attacking him at his 

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lowest point of his life. 
David is already grieving, he's 

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already embarrassed, he's 
already carrying this weight 

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from this betrayal that came 
from his closest relative. 

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And this is all happening 
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And now here comes someone 
literally throwing stones, 

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casting stones at him, shouting 
curses and publicly humiliating 

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him even more while he walks 
away from the city. 

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And the entire time, David had 
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I want that to be how you look 
through the lens of this 

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biblical story. 
To begin. 

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It was when he was the most weak
and most vulnerable, and David 

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had a way to stop it and didn't.
Have you ever had the ability to

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crush somebody's reputation? 
When you heard they spoke about 

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you in somebody's eyes, but you 
didn't do it. 

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It's a godly move. 
Listen, David refuses to do it. 

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But do you blame Abishai for 
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This goes back, doesn't it, to 
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David runs into Saul in the in 
The Cave and he's like, I 

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shouldn't have touched the 
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He's upset because he messed up 
his kingly robe and he 

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apologizes. 
He said I touched the Lord's 

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anointed. 
But people were like, obviously 

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God put him there so you could 
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Obviously that wasn't it. 
But David knew something that 

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they didn't know. 
Now you arrive here, he's 

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already established as the king,
but now you've got some drama 

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happening. 
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As you look back on this 
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feel the frustration in him 
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He watches this man curse the 
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He has great loyalty for David 
and he's watching this person 

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tear down somebody who helped 
build up this Kingdom into a 

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healthier place. 
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difficult it is when you have 
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Abishai is not the one being 
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But you're coming against my 
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I'm number one for him. 
I love him. 

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You're coming against him. 
Let me go over cut off his head.

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I better be quiet then. 
He didn't even call him Abishai.

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He's like, you stupid nephew. 
That's how that's how I read it.

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He's like, no, just let it be. 
Let it be. 

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He was a saw guy. 
Don't you think that he's upset?

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He's got reasons to be upset. 
Maybe the Lord will bless me 

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because of this. 
We're not going to take it into 

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our own hands. 
But the rebellion eventually 

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ends. 
Go ahead and go to chapter 19 

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now. 
And it's a horrific, 

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heartbreaking story. 
David's son who who rebelled 

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against him, Absalom, he dies 
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Jerusalem and suddenly the 
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The man who was fleeing in 
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his authority. 
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18. 
They crossed the shallows of the

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Jordan to bring the King's 
household across the river, 

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helping him every way they 
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And as the king was about to 
cross the river, shimmy eye fell

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down before him. 
He said whoops. 

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I don't know what the word in 
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verse 19 Shimei says, My Lord 
the king, please forgive me. 

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Forget the terrible thing your 
servant did when you left 

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Jerusalem. 
May the king put it out of his 

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mind. 
I know how much I sinned. 

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That is why I have come here 
today, the very first person in 

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all Israel to greet my Lord the 
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Then Abishai, the son of Zariah 
said Shimei should die, for he 

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cursed the Lord's anointed one. 
Who asked your opinion, you sons

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of Zoraya? 
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Why have you become my adversary
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Isn't that interesting? 
Not Shimmy Eye his nephew who's 

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trying to get him to do 
something that he feels 

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justified. 
And he looks at his nephew and 

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he says you're actually not 
helpful. 

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Why have you become my enemy 
today? 

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He says this is not a day for 
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For today, I'm once again the 
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And then turning to shimmy eye, 
David vowed your life will be 

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spared. 
Abishai is not wrong for feeling

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protective. 
He loves David, he's loyal to 

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David. 
He hates watching someone 

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dishonor someone he cares about.
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standing there, we would have 
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He doesn't allow the bitterness 
of second hand offense grow into

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bitterness of first hand 
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And that takes a lot of wisdom 
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Abishai's instinct is 
essentially, let me handle this,

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let me fix this for you, let me 
remove this problem. 

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And David said that's God's job.
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It's almost like what he's 
saying to him is your instinct 

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doesn't match what God is doing 
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Have you ever wondered if the 
instincts that we feel don't 

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match what the Lord is doing? 
Sometimes in a situation? 

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It's an important thought 
because there are moments in 

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life where our emotions are 
understandable, our anger is 

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even justified, but our reaction
seems reasonable to us and 

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unreasonable to the Lord. 
That's what makes forgiveness so

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difficult in the natural. 
You know why, right? 

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Because it's not natural. 
Everything in US wants balance. 

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We want the scales to even out. 
But the Kingdom of God operates 

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differently. 
So David Dud says he does 

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something that's incredibly 
difficult. 

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He refuses to let his pain 
decide his direction, and he 

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refuses to let somebody else's 
sin dictate his responses. 

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So for us, that's where 
forgiveness begins. 

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You don't have to wait until the
memory of what happened 

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disappears, and you don't have 
to wait for the wound to 

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suddenly stop hurting. 
And you sure don't have to wait 

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until the other person finally 
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Your forgiveness journey can 
begin the moment that you decide

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your reaction will no longer sit
on the throne of your life. 

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Two things we're going to learn 
about forgiveness today. 

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The first one is this, and 
you've probably heard it, but 

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forgiveness is a decision. 
It's a choice. 

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It is never something that's 
just going to come to you 

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naturally. 
You will have to choose it. 

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You may say, I don't want to. 
I feel like I'm losing a part of

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myself. 
And it's because you are. 

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It's because you are. 
It's as simple as this. 

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I want you to imagine if you 
bought something for somebody 

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100 bucks and they said I'll pay
you back and then they never do.

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You have two choices. 
You either force them, take them

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to court or whatever. 
You get that 100 bucks out of 

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them or you eat the loss. 
Either way, one of you is out 

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100 bucks. 
Forgiveness cost something 

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always from one party or the 
other, but you have to choose it

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before ever you feel like 
wanting to forgive someone. 

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You can go to Luke 23. 
That's where we'll be in a 

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moment. 
I want to say this pretty 

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carefully because the moment you
say forgiveness is a decision, I

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think sometimes people can hear 
it as though I'm making 

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forgiveness sound overly simple,
Like it's just a switch that you

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flip. 
Like if you are spiritual enough

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or mature enough or strong 
enough, one day you can decide 

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once to forgive them and then 
you feel clean and you never 

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struggle with it again. 
That is not what I mean. 

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Forgiveness may begin with a 
decision, but it doesn't mean 

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the decision is easy, and it 
doesn't mean the pain disappears

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the moment that you make the 
decision. 

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What it does mean is that 
forgiveness will almost never 

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come naturally, so you have to 
choose it. 

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Retaliation or rehearsing the 
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How about this? 
Imagining what we should have 

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said in that conversation. 
We love thinking of that. 

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Oh, I should have said that. 
But forgiveness usually has to 

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be chosen before it's felt. 
If you wait until forgiveness 

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feels natural, you're going to 
wait forever. 

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If you wait until the memory 
stops haunting you or hurting 

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you, you will never move on. 
This. 

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If you wait until the other 
person fully understands exactly

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how much it hurt you, or fully 
apologize and fully owns it and 

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changes, your heart is still 
tied to their response for the 

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rest of your life. 
And that's a terrible way to 

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live. 
Because that means now the 

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person who hurt you still gets 
to control the condition of your

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soul. 
So when I say that forgiveness 

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is a decision, I'm saying that 
at some point, with God's help, 

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you decide that you are no 
longer going to demand payment 

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from that person. 
You are going to decide that you

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are no longer going to keep 
collecting interest on the wound

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and you're no longer going to 
look at them through the lens of

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what happened to you before. 
That's the decision that David 

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made with Shimmy Eye. 
He's not saying Shimmy Eye was 

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right. 
He was not saying his words 

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didn't hurt. 
He's not pretending the offence 

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never happened. 
As a matter of fact, on his 

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deathbed later, he's talking to 
King Solomon and he's like, 

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Shimmy Eye is not a good dude. 
You should probably whack him. 

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I'm paraphrasing it even at 
that, by the way, Solomon goes 

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to him and he says, hey, look, I
don't trust you. 

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Stay here. 
If you ever leave this town, 

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I'll kill you. 
And he's like, sounds good. 

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Thanks for your mercy. 
And then three years later 

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wanders out of town. 
Done right. 

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So that's the rest of the story.
But the decision that David made

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with Shimmy eye on that day was 
to forgive him and not demand 

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payment from what he did. 
Now, if you've made your way 

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over to Luke 23, when we look at
Jesus, we see this decision in 

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its purest form. 
He says this just just three 

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verses, two others, both 
criminals were let out to be 

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executed with him. 
And when they came to a place 

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called the Skull Golgotha, they 
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And the criminals were also 
crucified, one on his right, one

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on his left. 
And Jesus said, Father, forgive 

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them. 
They don't know what they're 

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doing. 
And the soldiers gambled for his

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clothes by throwing dice. 
I know we talked about the thief

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not long ago on Resurrection 
Sunday. 

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That's not the focus here. 
The focus is that Jesus asked on

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behalf of them that the Lord 
would forgive them and what was 

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his reasoning? 
What did we just read? 

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They don't get it. 
They don't understand how heavy 

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this is. 
I'm convinced and many 

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theologians are convinced he's 
not just talking about the 

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people that are there crucifying
him, but he was talking about 

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you and I there too. 
God, they don't understand the 

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gravity of this. 
They don't understand the 

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magnitude of this. 
They don't understand how petty 

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their own differences are in 
light of what is happening right

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here at the cross. 
God, please forgive them. 

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They don't understand how 
merciful is Jesus that he 

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doesn't wait for you and I to 
fully grasp the depth of our sin

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before he chooses to forgive us.
He says, God, they don't get it,

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please give them forgiveness. 
How hard is it for us with our 

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much smaller offenses when 
somebody says something, we're 

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like, I don't know what they 
meant about that. 

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How different would it be if we 
just went to our prayer closet? 

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We said, God, I don't think they
understand how that hurt me. 

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So would you please forgive 
them? 

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No, because you know what we do?
We convince ourselves that they 

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know exactly how much it hurts 
us, that they should know better

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by now. 
How long have they known us? 

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And they still speak like this, 
Or they still do this so we then

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feel justified in holding a 
grudge. 

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Maybe they don't get it. 
Maybe they're not as aware of 

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your emotions as you are. 
Most of us are not even as aware

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of our emotions as we think we 
are. 

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How about the next time that 
something wounds us? 

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God forgive my husband. 
He doesn't. 

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That sweet knucklehead, he 
didn't get it. 

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God please forgive my wife who 
is highly intelligent and 

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beautiful and I honor on 
Mother's Day, but she doesn't 

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know what she just did. 
God forgive my friend. 

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God forgive my boss. 
God forgive my Co worker. 

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They don't get it. 
And the reality is most of the 

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time they do understand that 
something hurts, but they don't 

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understand the depth of it. 
Right. 

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That's the model that Jesus laid
out for us while he's bleeding 

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to death on a cross. 
It's something to chase after. 

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Jesus is asking the Father to 
deal with people through mercy 

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before judgement. 
That's not what we want. 

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We want judgement, but then 
mercy. 

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God, would you break the teeth 
of the wicked? 

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And also, I don't really want 
them to go to hell, but would 

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you please make them suffer and 
realize what they did? 

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Give me some justification. 
And then one day when we're all 

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in heaven, we'll be OK. 
No, no, no. 

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Jesus requested that while he 
couldn't stop God's judgement 

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from coming, he wanted to go 
through a filter of mercy. 

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That's what our prayers ought to
be. 

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God, they don't. 
They don't really understand it.

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I know, I know in the, in the 
great cosmic scale of justice, I

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know you're going to do what you
do. 

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I know that you're the judge. 
But for whatever voice I have in

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this situation, I don't think 
they understood exactly what 

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they were getting themselves 
into. 

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Prayer for judgement, right? 
Jesus doesn't wait until we felt

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sorry. 
He doesn't wait until we 

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understand. 
We still don't really 

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understand. 
So he didn't just teach 

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forgiveness. 
He modeled a pattern that his 

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followers would later live out 
themselves. 

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Go to Acts Chapter 7. 
Years later in the book of Acts,

454
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,240
we see another man standing in 
front of an angry crowd being 

455
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,440
condemned unjustly. 
His name is Steve, and he is 

456
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,080
known widely as the first 
Christian martyr, meaning he was

457
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,920
killed for his faith. 
And in verse 54 it says the 

458
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,560
Jewish leaders were infuriated 
by Stevens accusation. 

459
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,000
This is after he just goes 
through the whole gospel story 

460
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,400
and they shook their fists at 
him in rage. 

461
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:02,880
But Steven, full of the Holy 
Spirit, gazed steadily into 

462
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,720
heaven and saw the glory of God,
and he saw Jesus standing in 

463
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,640
place of honor at God's right 
hand. 

464
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,240
I bet you that was a great 
reminder. 

465
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080
And I bet you that's how he had 
the strength for what comes 

466
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560
next. 
And he told them, Look, I see 

467
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080
the heavens open, and the Son of
Man standing in the place of 

468
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,400
honor at God's right hand. 
And then they put their hands 

469
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,880
over their ears and began 
shouting. 

470
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,640
They rushed at him and dragged 
him out of the city and began to

471
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720
stone him. 
The accusers took off their 

472
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,400
coats and laid them at the feet 
of a young man named Saul. 

473
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,760
And as they stoned him, Stephen 
prayed This Lord Jesus receive 

474
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,920
my spirit. 
And he fell to his knees 

475
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,480
shouting, Lord, don't charge 
them with this sin. 

476
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,080
And with that, he died. 
I don't, I don't know the 

477
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,000
offense you're dealing with. 
I don't know the unforgiveness 

478
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,720
in everybody's life here. 
But if I can have an educated 

479
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,920
guess, for most of us, it's not 
because we were nailed to a 

480
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,360
cross. 
And for most of us, it's not 

481
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,920
because we had somebody throw 
rocks at us hoping we would die.

482
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,120
Although if you've been through 
that, please let me know. 

483
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,360
We do offer counselling. 
That sounds very traumatic. 

484
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,960
Listen, what Stephen said is he 
was dying as his body was 

485
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320
failing, as he was being crushed
to death because these were not 

486
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440
pebbles that they were throwing.
They would have gotten big 

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,920
rocks. 
They were aiming for the head. 

488
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800
This was a a public execution 
method in that day. 

489
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,120
When you read this, it is 
impossible not to hear the echo 

490
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,560
of Jesus, isn't it? 
Stephen is being crushed to 

491
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,880
death, the crowd is screaming at
him, and he does the least 

492
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,240
natural thing that you can think
of and says, God, don't hold 

493
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,120
them accountable for this death.
I'll see you soon. 

494
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,560
And with that, he's gone. 
Where did he learn that? 

495
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,920
From our Lord? 
From the one who makes all 

496
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,000
things new. 
From the one who overcame death 

497
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,880
itself. 
Stephen believed that if you 

498
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,240
don't believe that Jesus 
overcame death itself, that 

499
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,280
there's new life in the 
resurrection and the cross, it's

500
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,120
harder to give people more 
grace. 

501
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,920
Stephen believed it, and he 
walked it out to the very end. 

502
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Acts gives us a detail that's 
easy to overlook. 

503
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Also, if you read too quickly, 
it's one of my favorite things 

504
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080
to teach about forgiveness. 
It tells us that a young man 

505
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,160
named Saul was standing there 
watching and they laid their 

506
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,680
coats at his feet. 
Many of us know it. 

507
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Not all of us know it, but this 
young man, Saul would eventually

508
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
be called Paul, and he would be 
known as kind of the apostle of 

509
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,680
grace in the New Testament. 
As a matter of fact, he's the 

510
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000
one that we have this Scripture.
My grace is sufficient for you. 

511
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
My power is made perfect in 
weakness. 

512
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,840
But originally he wanted to kill
anybody that was coming against 

513
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,360
the traditional view of Judaism.
I would submit to you that not 

514
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:38,280
only did the forgiveness help 
absolve them from judgement that

515
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,040
could have fallen on them, I 
would also submit to you that 

516
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,000
maybe the forgiveness that 
Stephen asked for opened the way

517
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,280
for blessings to cleanly flow to
Paul so that he could still 

518
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440
achieve the goal that God wanted
to accomplish in him. 

519
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,160
What I'm trying to get across to
you today is why forgiveness is 

520
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,920
not just for you. 
When you forgive someone else, 

521
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,760
you actually open a channel for 
blessings from the Lord to flow 

522
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,920
there. 
He is righteous, He's a judge 

523
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,320
and sometimes people wrong us 
and they owe a debt. 

524
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840
But when you say I'll waive my 
right to it, it opens a cleaner 

525
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,840
and faster channel there and you
may say, well, I don't want 

526
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,000
that. 
I'm still on my journey. 

527
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,680
I don't want them to have God's 
blessings. 

528
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Do you want them to have God's 
blessings if it results in God's

529
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,000
results in God's Kingdom? 
That's the question for the 

530
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,400
Christian. 
I told you it's uncommon unity. 

531
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,120
This is not normal. 
Do you want somebody to be 

532
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,040
forgiven if it truly means that 
God's will is going to be done 

533
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,120
on this earth? 
Or do you just want to hear, I'm

534
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:39,160
sorry. 
Forgiveness is not just for them

535
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,640
and it is also not just for you.
Forgiveness sometimes breaks 

536
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,000
free a path for God to equip and
use someone in a way that He 

537
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,800
desires. 
And I would also submit to you 

538
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
one final thought on this. 
It's not just them. 

539
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Sometimes you letting go of that
debt means now you've got a 

540
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,400
little more room to carry what 
He wants you to carry because 

541
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,960
you're not carrying your own 
stuff. 

542
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,600
It doesn't mean it's easy. 
And I want to give you the full 

543
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,200
picture. 
Stephen did still die. 

544
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,440
Even after that wonderful 
prayer, Jesus still suffered and

545
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,360
Jesus died on that cross. 
David still remembered what 

546
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,880
shimmy I said. 
Forgiveness doesn't erase the 

547
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360
wound in their stories, and it 
doesn't erase the wound in your 

548
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,640
story. 
Last year I had this moment I'd 

549
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280
been waiting to do for almost 20
years. 

550
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,800
And I mentioned it briefly at 
one point, but I just called an 

551
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,040
old DJ that I worked with and I 
asked for his forgiveness 

552
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040
because of the stupid decisions 
I made when I used to work in 

553
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Top 40 radio, I got fired. 
And when they fired me, they 

554
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,920
fired a lot of the upper 
management as well because I was

555
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:38,120
doing pieces of their job. 
And this person was very bitter 

556
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,720
at me for years. 
And I knew this because of a 

557
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,720
great many mutual friends. 
And I don't blame him. 

558
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,720
We never talked after it 
happened. 

559
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,360
He's still in radio. 
So I looked up the radio station

560
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040
where he is. 
I sent him an e-mail and I said,

561
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
hey, it's been many years. 
I would love to call and 

562
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,360
apologize if I could. 
Please have your phone number 

563
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,440
for how things went down. 
And he wrote me back. 

564
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,480
He said this is my phone number,
I'll give you 5 minutes of my 

565
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440
time and that's it. 
I'm like OK, he's still holding 

566
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:14,960
on to it and I called him. 
Here's the thing, he lost his 

567
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,360
job. 
Why would he not be upset? 

568
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Even if it's not 100% the 
cleanest view of everything that

569
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160
happened, why would he not be 
upset? 

570
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,920
So I just ate it. 
I answered his questions about 

571
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,320
everything that happened. 
It was not a 5 minute 

572
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
conversation, it was about a 35 
minute conversation. 

573
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600
At the end he was laughing. 
He was like, hey, if you ever 

574
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,640
visit, blah blah blah, let me 
know, we'll grab lunch. 

575
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,320
And I thought not a chance, but 
this is really nice to hear. 

576
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600
And then over the next two weeks
after our conversation, I heard 

577
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400
from many a person that I used 
to work with because he had 

578
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400
reached out to them after not 
talking to them for years to 

579
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480
say, just so you know, Blake 
called me and he apologized. 

580
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,040
He he was involved and he really
was part of this. 

581
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160
And he said he was sorry and I 
could have been upset. 

582
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,040
And I'm like, who cares? 
Who cares? 

583
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,920
You would think that the 
cleanest resolution would be 

584
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,720
like, he said, sorry. 
Now we're best friends. 

585
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Now we've got a plan to do lunch
because God is so great. 

586
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,960
And now we're close. 
That's not the way that things 

587
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
happen. 
But I do feel cleaner. 

588
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
That's an apology that was long 
overdue and it didn't even get 

589
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960
me the the courtesy of silence 
after that. 

590
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800
He took that moment to go to 
other people and be like, I told

591
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,880
you, who cares? 
Who cares? 

592
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
You know what it actually did? 
It resulted in me having a 

593
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080
couple conversations with people
I hadn't talked to in years and 

594
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,360
it was cool to hear how they 
were doing. 

595
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720
So thanks God for the chance to 
catch up with people I care 

596
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,400
about. 
Forgiveness is a decision, but 

597
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,560
how do you come to that 
decision? 

598
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,880
How do you get there? 
It sounds really good. 

599
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,680
It preaches well and it lives 
difficult. 

600
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840
I think the first step is to be 
honest about the wound instead 

601
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,240
of minimizing it. 
I give you permission to stop 

602
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,800
doing something. 
Stop saying I should be over 

603
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,000
this by now. 
Stop saying this shouldn't have 

604
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,400
hurt me, this shouldn't be a big
deal. 

605
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,560
The emotions are what the 
emotions are. 

606
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,240
By the way, you might be correct
when you say it shouldn't be a 

607
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,320
big deal to you, but emotions 
still give you information about

608
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,200
something going on in the state 
of your spirit. 

609
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Listen to them. 
You can have permission for 

610
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,800
this. 
Real forgiveness never requires 

611
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400
you to pretend that something 
didn't hurt or that it couldn't 

612
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
have gone better. 
You can't forgive something that

613
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960
you don't acknowledge happened. 
So some of us are trying to 

614
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,280
forgive somebody while 
simultaneously trying to 

615
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520
convince ourselves that there's 
really nothing to forgive. 

616
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680
And it's no wonder that you 
never really achieve 

617
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840
forgiveness. 
Acknowledge that it was wrong 

618
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320
and that it wounded you, and it 
shifted you, and it changed the 

619
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,480
way that you look at things. 
Now move on to the next step. 

620
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,840
From there, you have to decide 
that revenge is not your 

621
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,400
responsibility. 
Most of us wouldn't use that 

622
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,960
word. 
Most of us wouldn't say, well, 

623
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,120
I'm plotting and I'm waiting my 
right time for revenge, but we 

624
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400
are waiting for that sweet 
moment where something bad will 

625
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,920
happen to somebody who wounded 
us. 

626
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,120
We're waiting. 
We're saying, well, I see what 

627
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,480
everybody else doesn't see, and 
one day they'll see it and then 

628
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840
I'll be justified. 
There's nothing less godly than 

629
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:08,120
that, thought. 
The real battle underneath 

630
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,760
forgiveness is this. 
It's the internal desire to try 

631
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,880
to make things even. 
But we're bad judges of that. 

632
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,240
We don't know when things are 
even. 

633
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,680
So for most of us, you'll know 
that you're chasing some form of

634
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,080
revenge if you find that this 
conversation comes up in 

635
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,480
coldness, distance, bitterness, 
rehearsing conversations in your

636
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,680
head, or secretly wanting 
somebody else to fail. 

637
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,680
And the last part is this. 
And honestly, this is where most

638
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520
people struggle. 
And you're like, this is where 

639
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,080
they struggle. 
You have to keep returning to 

640
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,720
the decision when the feelings 
come back. 

641
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,040
And we're going to talk more 
about that in just a moment. 

642
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240
But wounds rarely completely go 
away. 

643
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560
Some memories resurface out of 
nowhere. 

644
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Maybe it's a conversation 
reminds you a season reminds you

645
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,200
a song reminds you a name 
reminds you. 

646
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Unforgiveness has a way of 
chaining us to moments that we 

647
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
can't change. 
I want to be free. 

648
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
How about you? 
Forgiveness is a decision, but 

649
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,640
it's important that you also 
know this. 

650
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720
It's a process too. 
It is a process. 

651
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,680
You might have to forgive them 
forever. 

652
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Congratulations. 
But that should be a little 

653
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,280
freeing also, because if you've 
wondered, I feel like I've 

654
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,480
forgiven them three times. 
If you've ever done one of those

655
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,440
things, you write a name or 
something on a plate, you break 

656
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,400
it. 
Or you write something on a 

657
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,960
balloon, you release it into the
sky and hope that a bird doesn't

658
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840
choke. 
Or like we have all these 

659
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480
different like cathartic things 
or we write something down and 

660
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
we burn it. 
They're all great. 

661
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,520
You might have to do it again. 
It's OK. 

662
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,080
And we're going to talk about 
why. 

663
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600
It doesn't necessarily mean that
forgiveness never happened. 

664
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,320
So when you have to forgive them
again, quit being so down on 

665
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,120
yourself for it. 
Sometimes it just means the 

666
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
wound was deeper than one moment
could fully heal. 

667
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Could you imagine breaking a 
bone and going to the doctor and

668
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,560
then 5 minutes later you're 
like, oh, glad that's healed. 

669
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,800
I'd love that. 
Doesn't happen. 

670
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,280
There's a better way to say it. 
Sometimes it's like this. 

671
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,160
There are people that you have 
to forgive forever because if 

672
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,920
you don't, you're still chained 
to them forever. 

673
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,720
And that doesn't make you 
immoral or less spiritual or 

674
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560
weak. 
It just means that sometimes 

675
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640
healing happens in layers. 
The deeper the wound, the more 

676
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,720
opportunities there are for the 
pain to surface. 

677
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,480
It's sort of like a spiritual 
scar tissue that remains. 

678
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,160
That's why in Matthew 18, Peter 
asks Jesus this question that he

679
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,760
asks him, and it's a very famous
1. 

680
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,520
He says Peter comes to him and 
he asks, Lord, how often should 

681
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,240
I forgive someone who sins 
against me? 

682
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760
7 times. 
And Jesus says no, not 7 times, 

683
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
but 70 * 7. 
That's how many times. 

684
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Math nerds, Wow, you're here. 
OK, God bless you. 

685
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,040
All right, yeah, that's not the 
number that Jesus is giving him.

686
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,840
And by the way, keep a good 
record because once you hit 491 

687
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,160
or whatever, like once you hit 
that one, then you're like 

688
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,120
you've run out of forgiveness. 
May this be like a heap of coals

689
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,240
on your head to bring you shame.
No, that's not what he's saying.

690
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,840
It's interesting when I read 
this every time because Peter 

691
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,159
probably thought he was being 
really generous. 7 Forgiving 

692
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,480
somebody 7 times is generous 
today, isn't it? 

693
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120
He's like, what if I do it 70 * 
7? 

694
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,000
I'm so forgiving Jesus. 
I'm so much more forgiving than 

695
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,600
the other guys in this group. 
And Jesus isn't like, wow, 

696
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:28,920
you're impressive. 
Jesus is not giving Peter a 

697
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,280
number because then Peter would 
keep track of a number. 

698
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Instead of cultivating 
forgiveness in his heart, he's 

699
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,600
dismantling the whole mindset 
that we have of score keeping. 

700
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,199
That's what we naturally do when
we're hurt. 

701
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,880
We keep counting. 
We may feel like we don't. 

702
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
In fact, we feel like these 
small things go away, but we've 

703
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,679
not fully forgiven them. 
So then when something else 

704
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,239
happens, you know what pops up 
in your mind. 

705
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,199
And three months ago they said 
this. 

706
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,280
And I bet when they said this, 
it meant that oh, we are like 

707
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Sherlock Holmes. 
Once that happens, oh, now I 

708
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,360
understand everything about 
them. 

709
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,760
You understand nothing. 
Only God knows the heart. 

710
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,720
And you've got to be more 
concerned with the state of your

711
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:12,120
own heart. 
I would just tell you this, if 

712
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080
you're not careful and you don't
continue to choose forgiveness, 

713
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,880
every new interaction starts 
carrying the weight of every 

714
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,120
previous interaction. 
Married people, listen to me on 

715
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480
this. 
This Wednesday, we're starting a

716
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,320
brand new Bible study. 
It's around Song of Songs, and 

717
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,320
if you have read through it, 
there are parts of that. 

718
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,920
A little saucy, All right? 
It's not a saucy Bible study. 

719
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,640
It is a Bible study on how to 
love well and love biblically. 

720
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,440
And this matters for all 
relationships, but especially 

721
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,760
for those that are married. 
But I will tell you this, for 

722
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,080
the saucier parts, we are going 
to have a date in June where we 

723
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,040
have an evening service on a 
Sunday where we talk about 

724
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,040
biblical sexuality. 
I won't live stream it, but 

725
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,440
we'll answer whatever you want. 
All right, so it's been really 

726
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,280
great being your pastor too. 
After that, I want to encourage 

727
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,160
you. 
Married people, listen, 

728
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,160
hopefully nobody knows you 
better than your spouse, but if 

729
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200
you're not careful, because you 
know each other so well, every 

730
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,880
time they do or say something 
that offends you, you attach it 

731
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,440
to what they do or said three 
days ago, two weeks ago. 

732
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,800
And before you know it now you 
start to build up some 

733
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,280
resentment with the person that 
you're supposed to be 1 flesh 

734
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
with. 
And most of us, we already 

735
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,880
struggle to love ourselves well,
but now you've got another 

736
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,320
person added to it who is now 1 
flesh with us and now we're 

737
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,240
struggling to love them. 
Well, we're really in a in a 

738
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:37,080
pickle there, aren't we? 
So stop attaching what's 

739
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,240
happened now to everything that 
has come before. 

740
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,440
I want you to have some freedom 
on this today. 

741
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Healing is not always linear. 
You're going to have days that 

742
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,000
you feel completely free of it, 
days that you don't. 

743
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,440
Yesterday I was talking to a 
good friend of mine. 

744
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,080
I said, honestly, I feel like 
I'm clean of any unforgiveness 

745
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,760
right now. 
And he was like, no. 

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
And I said no, I no, I do feel 
that now. 

747
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,720
A week and a half ago it would 
have been different. 

748
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,520
And I'm not saying it flip flops
every week, but I'm just saying 

749
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,000
I know seasons where I struggle 
with it. 

750
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,920
And right now, praise God, I 
feel clean of it. 

751
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,840
It's OK. 
You have mountaintops and 

752
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,880
valleys on this process. 
Sometimes forgiveness, this is a

753
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600
more modern thing that people 
do, but sometimes forgiveness 

754
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960
feels a little bit like when you
clean out old photos on your 

755
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
social media or on your phone. 
Maybe there's a breakup or you 

756
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,680
don't hang out with somebody 
anymore. 

757
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,400
So what do you do? 
You go through and you start 

758
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,320
deleting all of them. 
You delete all these pictures or

759
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,280
you disconnect them off of 
social media because you don't 

760
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840
want to see them again, right? 
Anybody ever do that? 

761
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Come on, tell the truth. 
Anybody ever do that so that you

762
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,520
got some Peace of Mind? 
OK. 

763
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,640
All right. 
Have you ever then had where 

764
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640
like technology and all of its 
kindness and all of its 

765
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,360
graciousness says, hey, we 
thought you'd like this memory 

766
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,600
on this day 13 years ago. 
Thank you. 

767
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,200
I was living free and clear. 
I forgot to delete this one. 

768
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,800
And it pops up all of a sudden, 
and maybe it's a harmless one, 

769
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,760
maybe maybe they're not in the 
picture, but it's from a 

770
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Thanksgiving meal. 
And you're like, I remember that

771
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000
moment exactly. 
And he was standing right there.

772
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,680
And then you're, and then you 
start getting in your head. 

773
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,440
I thought I was over this. 
I thought that I was free and 

774
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,720
clear of this. 
Why am I still struggling with 

775
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,800
this? 
Because you are a human being. 

776
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,960
I give it to you in another way,
just in case you don't 

777
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:26,880
systematically delete people out
of your phone. 2020, I broke my 

778
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,280
ankle and I did it bravely 
defending a group of orphans. 

779
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,640
I didn't. 
I stepped in a pothole in my 

780
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200
backyard and it had a tree root 
when I was trying to grill pork 

781
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,080
chops. 
But I thought it was just 

782
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,200
sprained. 
And it turned out that it was 

783
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120
broken and you would not know 
it. 

784
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,040
I mean, to see me now because I 
play pickleball. 

785
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,040
I, I try to walk a few miles 
every day. 

786
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,520
I'm not walking around with a 
limp. 

787
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120
But the reality is what you 
can't see is what I feel on the 

788
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,080
inside right now. 
I feel nothing, but every so 

789
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,440
often I'll get this random jolt 
of pain, never happened before 

790
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600
but now it does and I don't know
what it is and the doctors say 

791
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,720
I'm fine. 
Have you ever broken something 

792
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,280
or had surgery somewhere and for
the most part you feel good, but

793
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,200
every so often something pops 
up? 

794
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,880
Are you willing to say you're 
not healed from it? 

795
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,720
I'm healed, but I'm not the same
as I was before the injury or 

796
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,800
the wound either. 
This is where forgiveness comes 

797
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,320
in. 
OK, so when it comes to how 

798
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,480
people interact with one 
another, you can be healed from 

799
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640
the interaction and still be 
changed on the other side of a 

800
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,720
wound. 
That's why it's also a process. 

801
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,400
There are wounds that genuinely 
heal, but every once in a while 

802
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,160
we still have to go back and 
forgive them again. 

803
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,800
So what's that actually look 
like? 

804
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Well, I'll make it quick for 
you. 

805
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,080
In Matthew 614 and 15, Jesus 
said this. 

806
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,360
He said if you forgive those who
sin against you, your heavenly 

807
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Father will forgive you. 
But if you refuse to forgive 

808
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
others, your Father will not 
forgive your sins. 

809
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,680
And I've heard people get all 
creative in how they teach this 

810
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:58,880
kind of think it's exactly what 
it sounds like. 

811
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,120
You want your sins forgiven. 
No, no, but everybody's good. 

812
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Forgive them, guys. 
They don't even get it. 

813
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,280
They don't really know exactly 
what they've done. 

814
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,160
Let it go. 
Build unity by letting it go. 

815
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Not only is it a benefit to 
them, Jesus's words say if you 

816
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,040
forgive those that sin against 
you, I'll forgive you. 

817
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,280
Does that mean they don't have 
consequences or judgement? 

818
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Absolutely not. 
It just means it's now fully 

819
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,320
released to the only one who can
purely hand out judgement. 

820
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,880
If you and I got to decide 
judgement for everybody who 

821
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,480
wounded us, it would not be 
fair, nor would it be just, and 

822
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,320
I think we all agree on that. 
Smite him. 

823
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,680
Here's how you do this. 
The first thing you have to 

824
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,920
understand is that forgiveness 
and trust are not the same 

825
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,880
thing. 
A lot of us are afraid to 

826
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,680
forgive because we're afraid 
that we're going to usher them 

827
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,560
back into a history or a place 
where we don't feel safe. 

828
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Ain't the same thing, OK? 
Forgiveness is releasing that 

829
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:59,360
debt. 
You don't have to trust them in 

830
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,760
the same way. 
Now, it might be good to work on

831
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,360
building trust. 
That's a different thing, but 

832
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,680
it's not the same thing. 
So don't use trust as an excuse 

833
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,920
to not pursue forgiveness. 
And the second thing is this we 

834
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,120
talked about a little bit 
earlier. 

835
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,760
Stop feeding the wound. 
You have to forgive them forever

836
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,840
anyway. 
But what I mean by that is some 

837
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,880
people unknowingly keep the pain
alive by constantly returning to

838
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,840
it, constantly replaying it, 
constantly talking about it with

839
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,360
people. 
The more attention something 

840
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,440
receives, the more space it 
occupies in your heart. 

841
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,160
So do you want to talk about the
wound or do you want to talk 

842
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,240
about the healing? 
Do you want to talk about the 

843
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,520
wounder, or do you want to talk 
about the healer? 

844
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,920
That's what's going to gain 
space in your heart. 

845
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,520
And the last thing is this. 
I give you permission to give 

846
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,520
yourself permission to heal 
gradually. 

847
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,200
You may have to forgive them 
forever, which means you may be 

848
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,600
healing from it forever. 
It's OK. 

849
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,520
You're different on the other 
side of it. 

850
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Don't be down on yourself 
because you should be over it. 

851
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,120
You should be such a super 
Christian that you don't ever 

852
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,640
feel offense from anything. 
Anytime somebody said that 

853
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,000
they're never offended over 
anything. 

854
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,240
I'm like, you're probably 
offended over 13 things right 

855
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,720
now, and I'm a little offended 
that you lied to me. 

856
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:10,280
No, I'm just kidding. 
Over time, I want you to know 

857
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,960
this. 
It's gradual. 

858
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,480
God wants to build in you not 
just the ability to survive 

859
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,000
pain, but the ability to move 
through your life without being 

860
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640
hardened by the pain. 
That's what real freedom looks 

861
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,240
like. 
And I just think one of the 

862
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,880
hardest parts about forgiveness,
we'll just call it out for what 

863
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,640
it is. 
It normally is from wounds that 

864
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,880
don't come from strangers. 
It's normally from people that 

865
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,320
are close, somebody that you 
trusted, someone that you loved 

866
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,320
and open your life to. 
That's why forgiveness feels so 

867
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,800
difficult. 
And King David, who we started 

868
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,000
with, will return to in one of 
his famous ones, Psalm 55. 

869
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,840
He says this in verse 12 through
14. 

870
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,240
He said it is not an enemy who 
taunts me. 

871
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,080
I could bear that. 
It's not my foes who so 

872
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520
arrogantly insult me. 
I could have hidden from them. 

873
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,960
He said. 
Instead it is you my equal, my 

874
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,920
companion and close friend. 
He said what good fellowship we 

875
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,720
once enjoyed as we walked 
together to the House of God. 

876
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Is that not real? 
Isn't that one of the most real 

877
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,800
prayers that he's ever written? 
I could have handled it if my 

878
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,520
enemies came against me. 
I could have handled it if it 

879
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,360
was people I don't know. 
But we were close. 

880
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,240
So David is honest about the 
pain. 

881
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,480
He doesn't minimize it. 
He doesn't over spiritualize it 

882
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,280
away. 
He doesn't pretend betrayal 

883
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,080
feels small. 
But it's also important for you 

884
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,000
to know that David doesn't stay 
trapped there because in verse 

885
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,120
22 of the same Psalm, Psalm 55, 
he says, give your burdens to 

886
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,920
the Lord and he'll take care of 
you. 

887
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,440
He will not permit the godly to 
slip and fall. 

888
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Same verse, same chapter, sorry.
And that's ultimately what 

889
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,040
forgiveness is. 
It's not pretending the burden 

890
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,960
never existed. 
It's finally placing the burden 

891
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,520
in the hands of someone who can 
actually carry it better than 

892
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,720
you can. 
And I'm just afraid that some 

893
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,880
Christians have been carrying 
their burdens for so long that 

894
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
it started to influence the way 
that they love and the way that 

895
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,240
they trust and the way they 
worship and the way that they 

896
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,440
see other people that are made 
in the image of God. 

897
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,840
Over time, pain has a way of 
convincing yourself that 

898
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,880
protecting yourself is better 
than opening yourself to people.

899
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
But Jesus never intended for the
wounds that you carry to be your

900
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,520
identity. 
This matters a lot for real 

901
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,320
unity, church unity, but 
marriage unity and family unity 

902
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,560
and friendships. 
Eventually every meaningful and 

903
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
deep friendship and relationship
that you have will require 

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forgiveness somewhere. 
Parents, children, spouses, 

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friends, whatever. 
The longer people stay close, 

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the more opportunities you've 
got to be disappointed. 

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But that's one of those reasons 
that I'm excited for what we're 

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tackling here today. 
I believe this is a real 

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challenge. 
You can choose it, but you're 

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also going to have to continue 
to walk through that process. 

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If you don't continue to walk 
through the process, the choice 

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will feel like it didn't work. 
But the choice was just the 

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beginning of the process and.
