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Hey guys, today we're going to 
be discussing getting knocked 

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down by cars, excellent 
sandwiches, and Hanky the Grill.

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He looks to me for help. 
You're like help me help. 

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Hey guys, this week we're going 
to be talking about egg salad 

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sandwiches. 
Hanky the Christmas. 

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Poo and getting knocked down by 
cars. 

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It's got one. 
Stay tuned. 

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Alright, yeah, bye. 
No, you're not saying. 

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Boy, we're only starting into a 
podcast. 

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Ohh hi, how are you? 
How's it going? 

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How's you slither on into the 
room without me? 

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Knowing I like a ninja I hate 
the way you don't like the way 

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slither cause litter is amazing.
In your voice message. 

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No, I'm not gonna slither 
anywhere with you. 

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Thanks very much though. 
Being I wasn't being like, I 

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wasn't propositioning you just 
like, I don't care, you know, 

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Randall. 
From I do not care. 

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It's just moist. 
It's just like a not. 

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It's ohh, you hate moist like 
shit. 

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Millennial like trope is like 
you've got something on your 

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face. 
Ohh, you're getting me back now 

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for giving out to you. 
So it's like mascara. 

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Yeah, great. 
Anyway, slithering, I like your 

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look today. 
Thanks. 

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Do you like a button up? 
Yeah, it's cool. 

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So. 
Like 1 boob out the middle, my 

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middle one. 
One boob I actually came out of 

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nightclub in town once. 
I was rang like a boob tube 

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calculator here and nothing else
underneath. 

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Obviously it was like no pants 
or nothing, just. 

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And a pair of flip. 
Flops. 

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It was a weird advice and the 
weird voice. 

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I went into a shop, went into 
the shop and I would walk. 

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Around too early. 
I went hi guys tampon string. 

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I went too far too. 
Far ohh so. 

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I was walking around. 
I was getting popcorn. 

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Or ever, like before the taxi. 
You know, you're starving after 

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the nightclub. 
Yeah. 

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And I was. 
Your man looked at me really 

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weirdly. 
You can tell where this is 

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going. 
And I looked down both boobs 

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just completely. 
I didn't have much boob at the 

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time, so I didn't. 
Like it was just a band around 

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you like a. 
Little hair band. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Holding them up underneath, 

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that's what I guess. 
So funny. 

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Ohh, idiot. 
Anyway, I thought today, just to

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lighten the mood, we could talk 
about death. 

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We started off on a banger. 
Didn't we did? 

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Yes. 
It went went from boob flashing 

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to death. 
Ohh. 

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Going to be a long half hour. 
Let's get stuck in, shall we? 

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So have you ever experienced 
death in your life? 

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I know I did. 
A car did knock me over once. 

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Oh my God, I've been knocked. 
Down by a car before get out of 

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town. 
Shut up. 

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How old are you? 
18? 

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OK, you're probably a bit more 
serious. 

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I was 12. 
I was knocked down. 

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Broke my leg really badly. 
That you. 

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Thought that because younger I 
would think that. 

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Well, I was, I like was your. 
Everything less bouncing back. 

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I don't know. 
So I kinda I was getting off the

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door I'm. 
Thinking younger body more. 

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Spelt, if you will, I don't know
yeah, maybe I don't know. 

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I just like, okay, we're going 
really broke my legs. 

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I got getting off the dark. 
I wanna hear about yours next. 

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I was getting off the dart, 
walking in Bray Dart station, 

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walking across the road. 
Just didn't look and I 

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essentially walked. 
I bounced off the bonnet and 

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then my foot, my leg went into 
the wheel bubble and I was lying

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there said there was a moment I 
was like, what do you do? 

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Like was really awkward. 
I was like, what do I do here? 

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Like I am the victim. 
So I was a bit kind of healthy. 

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Can someone help? 
There's a great embarrassed 

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cause I'm so shocked. 
I didn't feel the pain and I was

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like, I don't know, it's just 
happened there. 

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So like I had the coats over me 
and you know, the ambulance. 

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Sorry, where was your leg inside
the my leg went underneath the 

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wheel of the car and bubble like
you went around went around 

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under the thing. 
So I was lying there kind of 

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shocked and I was just like, Oh 
my God, what? 

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Like what do I do here? 
And because when it happens to 

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you, but this is how kind of 
people please Rio was the guy 

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who knocked me down came up and 
he was like, ohh, God. 

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And he lifted up the coats and 
saw my leg and he went pale and 

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fuck. 
And he was just like, oh God. 

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And I was like, ohh, I'm really,
really sorry. 

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You can where you go? 
Where are you going? 

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He's like, I'm going to grace. 
It's like I lived there. 

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You can go on ahead. 
I'm sorry to delay your morning 

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and my sister this is. 
Actually, no, you're alright. 

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I'm. 
Fine, I know. 

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And my twin sister, The Irish 
embarrassment. 

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No good bleeding. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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No, no, don't mind. 
That's only scratch. 

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My leg was hanging off and then 
I went down. 

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No, sorry. 
My school is down the road at 

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the time and my sister was in 
the school, my twin sister, 

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Dancer, And she heard an 
ambulance going past and she was

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like something wrong with Laura.
So you have telepathy? 

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Yeah, well, there was new. 
And so she went down and she 

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found me and said it was all it 
was great crack because I was up

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with the ambulance and there was
loads of people gathered around 

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at the station, you know what's 
going on. 

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And they said it was great 
because she was all like out of 

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my way. 
Me invite younger banter the, 

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you know, into the ambulance and
I remember. 

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Look like her. 
Get out. 

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Of my way, it's clearly, but 
it's not, it's not hurt me, you 

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know, but we were on the IT was 
very, very painful and we were 

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in the ambulance going past 
school. 

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It was the year we were being 
very badly bullied and um, I 

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remember looking at the school 
is going past gone. 

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Thank God I don't have to go 
there. 

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You know, it's not awful. 
And apparently this is lovely 

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now apparently, um, when they 
were told that I was knocked 

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down by a car, they all started 
chanting dead, dead, dead, dead.

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So that was nice. 
Thanks for that guys. 

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And what actually happened your?
Leg So Danielle said she looked 

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at us when we got to Lachlan's 
town emergency room and it was 

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like she said it was like a 
rainbow. 

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It was just completely so that 
the big bone is at the tibia. 

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The fibia can never remember was
snapped completely into and it 

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had pushed the little bone out 
through the. 

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Scales. 
God and I was in a cast for like

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3 or 4 months it was hell and my
leg was like green and tiny and 

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covered in hair and had mushroom
leg mushy. 

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He was a really small like 
mushrooms growing in the heel. 

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It was just looking disgusting. 
Yeah, it's the skin. 

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So tell me about your knocked 
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I can't believe you're knocked 
down as well. 

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Yeah, ironically outside the 
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A&E. 
Really just on the. 

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Roundabout just go back into 
Waterford that and then. 

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Alright, no, I'll tell you what 
happened. 

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Mine was lost. 
Much less dramatic than yours. 

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So I was cycling. 
I used to cycle BMX a lot. 

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Yeah. 
And like, do them up and, like, 

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remake them and put the wheels 
back on and spray them. 

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You're very cool. 
So I had this bike that I loved.

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It was cycling to my friend's 
house in the dark, no lights and

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a BMX. 
And a BMX is like lower down 

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than a normal bike, so it's just
under the eyeline of the car 

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that was getting on the 
roundabout. 

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And I think that he was trying 
to get ahead of the traffic. 

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Yeah. 
So he sped up, but from about 50

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metres away, I knew that he was 
going to hit me. 

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So I was just like, this is it? 
I'm gone, I'm done. 

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He's gonna like, bam. 
And it was like bang on. 

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So I was already on the 
roundabout. 

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So I was like, pedalled as fast 
as I could. 

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I closed my eyes and I knew that
I was going to go. 

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And he hit like the back. 
I'm even talking about it now. 

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It's like, yeah, even talking 
about it now. 

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Like I think the tyres are 
really small, is 22 inch tyre. 

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He hit the back of the tyre and 
didn't touch me. 

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So literally there was a space 
of about this much that could 

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have like. 
Nothing happened to. 

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You. 
Yeah, I fell on my right side. 

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I spun. 
Yeah. 5 cars stopped and I 

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remember doing the same. 
Sorry. 

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Sorry. 
OK, I'm terrible. 

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I've got out. 
Of his car and he was like ohh 

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fuck like. 
Really making a? 

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Bigger scene than I could ever 
imagine. 

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That's the way it was in my head
anyway. 

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He was probably like ohh God. 
What have I done? 

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What pick me up? 
Don't be so embarrassing. 

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Like stop it. 
So he was like, Oh my God, I was

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like, ohh, no, honestly, I'm OK.
It's like I was like, how's my 

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bike like thinking? 
And I realised this entire was I

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got back on the bike and fucking
cycled off. 

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All my right side just ripped. 
I didn't go to hospital 

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anything. 
The first thing I did was when 

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the shock set in and I felt the 
pain, rang my dad and I was 

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like, dad, really weird. 
So dad, don't tell mom. 

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Yeah, knocked over and he said I
can't hear you speak up. 

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It's like I got knocked over by 
a car and he's like, yeah, no, 

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I'm okay. 
I'm cycling my bike. 

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I'm halfway down to Art Keane, 
just come and pick me up. 

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And I was like this when he 
came. 

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But like not, didn't, didn't end
up going to hospital for 

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anything. 
And I like, I had a scratch from

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like there, all the way down 
there right side. 

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It was like, you know, tarmac 
bruise. 

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Yeah. 
Bruised for a long, long time, 

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but like, absolutely fine. 
Is weird that shock does that 

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doesn't. 
Answer so fucking. 

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Strange. 
So I I had Lou and we were going

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to the zoo. 
Loom was about 1 1/2 two maybe 

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and we were parked up in Phoenix
Park along the grass. 

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It was when you could park along
the grass and I was carrying 

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them. 
Stand me. 

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We just stepped down. 
I just stepped down onto the 

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road and whatever way, you know,
your ankle kind of goes out from

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under. 
That happened. 

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But we both fell and I fell with
Luan in my arms and Lewin's 

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head. 
You could just hear like that, 

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you know, And I always got such 
because it was little head. 

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And luckily Loom was born with a
deformity because of his head. 

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His head got stuck in the 
birthing canal, my birthing 

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canal. 
His head was misshapen. 

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Yeah, he had this calcified kind
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he's just then had to go for 
surgery for her. 

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But, um, that actually saved 
him. 

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He landed on that. 
She was very thick bone. 

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So I was so freaked out by that 
and I was like, no, my leg is 

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quite sore. 
But Fergus like grandly stop and

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I called an ambulance straight 
away. 

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I was like, I need to get 
ambulance for my son Virgos. 

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Like look like he's fine. 
He's grand. 

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You're grand. 
Fargo's like you're you're fine.

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Like kind of stuff make you see.
Now he didn't mean to be like 

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that, but I I kind of his panic 
was his panic is yet his panic 

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is to don't overreact. 
My panic is probably overreact. 

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But then it was more about Lou 
and loom was okay and I was 

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like, okay, maybe I can move, 
maybe my my. 

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But I remembered the feeling of 
breaking something like this 

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feels weird. 
So we walked around the zoo and 

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I was limping and I could feel 
my foot getting bigger and 

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bigger and bigger. 
But I was in such shock after 

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what had happened because it was
1 moment walking, second moment 

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worrying I'd killed my child. 
It was so scary. 

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And as he continued on, walked 
around the zoo, 45 minutes, my 

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bastard, you know, Chuck again, 
you know, and I was like, okay, 

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I'm going to think we need to go
home. 

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I had to drive home for didn't 
drive at the time. 

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So I drove from Phoenix Park to 
Greystone. 

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So like an hour. 
And literally as soon as the 

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front door closed, I started 
screaming. 

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I was like my leg, it's not OK. 
Turns out it was broken the 

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ankle and torn ligament and you 
know, I was on crutches for a 

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few weeks. 
Then and then you wonder like 

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because there's personality 
types. 

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Well, is it like the 
dramatisation of stuff? 

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Because there's people that like
I've been today and plenty of 

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times and there's triage nurses 
going so you fucking couple of 

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stitches. 
Yeah, I've been here down the 

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road. 
Like they know that in the. 

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PEDs like a child not crying and
then he isn't going into ICU. 

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But I think it's shock. 
I think shock does that to you. 

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I mean, I think it's actually 
something like if like if I had 

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a finger flapping off and I 
wasn't in shock about it, I'll 

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be ohh nail. 
Like I nearly caught my nail in 

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the. 
Drama or like or like even on 

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the topic of death at a funeral.
You know, the one who hardly 

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knew the person, but they're 
making the most amount of noise 

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about. 
It ohh yeah big chief chief 

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mourner that's a man she really.
Yeah, that's for real. 

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Ohh yeah, that's a. 
First hand experience of that 

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and everyone's like she fucking 
hated her ohh. 

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She doing No, I was joking with 
you. 

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Sorry, you actually actually saw
Banshee. 

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But no, like she was wailing 
around the place and everyone 

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knew like, ohh, sure, like, you 
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wasn't that close to her, but 
she was the one at the front of 

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the room making the biggest 
scene. 

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So they did used to hire women 
back in the day. 

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No way. 
How much would they be paid? 

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I don't know, but they were good
tax back now on the scale of of 

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the of the jobs that we're 
talking about. 

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Where are you? 
What, Laura? 

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Women were hired. 
Yeah, back in the day. 

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To funerals. 
What? 

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Yeah, to follow the coffin and 
cry because they'd want to like 

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more pomp and ceremony for the 
kind of the mourning. 

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Of it, this one definitely 
wasn't hard. 

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But I'll tell you now at my 
mum's funeral, so my mum was 

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diagnosed with leukaemia on the 
28th of November 1998. 

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So we were 13 and she died 4 
weeks later. 

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So she was, yeah, it was very, 
very, very quick. 

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So sorry. 
She was diagnosed on the 25th, 

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died on the 28th of December. 
So it was hideous. 

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And, you know, she's only just 
come back to live with dad four 

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years prior. 
And then all of a sudden she was

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sick. 
And then she was, she was dead. 

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And at my mum's funeral, the 
weirdest thing, I couldn't stop 

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laughing. 
And again, shock and the 

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weirdness, I was crying. 
Yeah, I was kind of going, this 

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is the worst place to laugh. 
And me and my sister were like, 

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if we laugh now, we're fucking 
weirdos like you. 

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Know I'm one of those people. 
But my mum really leaned into 

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the death thing. 
That sounds so weird but like I 

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remember. 
Playing right into that. 

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She got over heels into the 
fucking thing, got to plan her 

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own funeral, and she kind of 
got, you know, like she 

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obviously hated the fact that 
she was dying. 

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She was only 41, same age. 
I'm turning, which is weird, but

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she, she, she got to kind of, 
she was a dramatic person. 

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She got. 
I mean, it's like, I know I 

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would be if I was dying. 
I want everybody to, like, come 

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and pay their respects before, 
before I die. 

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So I get to see the kind of 
thing, you know. 

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And she, she, I remember she was
lying on the bed once with the 

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cat demon cat on her on her lap 
and the dog as well. 

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And she was like this so 
therapeutic, you know, when 

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you're going through things like
this and then always like this. 

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Yeah. 
Jumps up and attacks the dog. 

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The dog runs off. 
And she was on a waterbed. 

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So it was all like flailing, but
she she did say to us that this 

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is actually really helpful. 
I've said it many people who've 

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lost parents in the past and she
said, look, you know, when I die

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and I will, I will always live 
on myself. 

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My sister like, yeah, okay, new 
age is small, you know, alright,

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okay, cosmic debris Kumbaya mum.
She was like, no, I mean, it's 

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like half my DNA is in you, half
of it is in Danielle, half of it

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is in the boys. 
So I will live on like 

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technically, you know, there's 
and I, I loved that it was 

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really comforting and I have. 
Said this to me. 

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Parents, Oh my 
Like I would think about her 

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everyday and I was and it's such
a long time ago, but I think we 

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we can we can kind of get caught
up in this idea. 

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Not caught up. 
So it's very natural of grief 

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and grief hits you. 
Yes, whoa, it's the Cliff edge. 

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It's it's like that person's now
gone. 

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No matter how I felt about them.
It's that in the finite mind 

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kicks in because I think we just
can't. 

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We just we put child death on a 
shelf until until we have to 

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deal with. 
It How do you feel? 

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About you for me. 
And after, that's amazing, 

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amazing way to think about it. 
I think what your mum said, she 

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was really fucking beautiful and
I've never thought about it like

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that either. 
How do you feel? 

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About it for you, I feel 
probably a lot more aware of 

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dress. 
I think having had mum, someone 

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close to us die at such a young 
age. 

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Um, you're, you kind of go round
and I'm sure it happens to 

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people now when someone close to
you dies, you, you kind of just 

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expect everybody to die and 
you're so aware of mortality. 

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And I think that doesn't go away
now. 

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It's not like I'm picturing 
myself dying everyday, but I 

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think I am aware of it. 
But that trickles down. 

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Like my kids are kind of aware 
of people dying at a young age 

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because they know Grandma Fiona 
died when I was 13 as well. 

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So it's I, I think I'm not 
afraid to talk about death. 

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I'm not afraid. 
Of you scared of it for 

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yourself? 
No, neither. 

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Have you planned your own 
funeral? 

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Like in your head? 
What what, what do you want? 

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Because mine is definitely. 
Want someone to turn up in one 

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of those giant blow up T Rex 
costumes? 

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Okay, just one person out of 
the. 

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Hole not explained and. 
Completely unexplained. 

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Nobody knows who's going to do 
it, but someone is going to do 

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it. 
So for listening guys. 

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What's your song? 
I'd have chosen a song, but I 

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have imagined just a joyous 
occasion. 

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Like I have imagined like, yeah,
just people being people as they

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were to me. 
Yeah, I don't exactly so hard. 

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I don't expect and like, I don't
want it to be like almost a big 

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deal like. 
I know and it's just so hard to 

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say that because actually the 
death is for death is for the 

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living, you know, and grief is 
for the living. 

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So it's hard to say that because
mum, she did get a planner 

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funeral and she's. 
All the laughing. 

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All the crying, she wanted that.
Yeah, not necessarily the. 

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Alcohol. 
Yeah, like you. 

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Know mum was like and maybe an 
egg sandwich. 

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No, actually I don't. 
Fuck them. 

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They can have an egg salad 
sandwich. 

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Like something really obscure 
like sushi, Yeah. 

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Yeah, pizzas. 
Yeah, like slices. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Pizza slices. 

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Yeah. 
No, my mum got plan her funeral 

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and she said I want everyone 
wearing white. 

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You know, I don't black. 
I want this to be a celebration 

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of my life. 
Not not I don't talk about my 

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death, which I get, but it is 
kind of also hard. 

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It's not up to the dead, It's up
to the living. 

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The kind of is up to the living,
you know what I mean? 

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And I I think it's but fine. 
You do need to serve out wishes 

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as well. 
Mum said I'm just going to have 

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a piss piss up in the house and 
it was on New Year's Eve was her

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funeral and I remember, but my 
only memories of that night was 

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like, and so one was at my my 
oldest brother's best friend 

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Downing a pint of Guinness in 
three seconds. 

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That was amazing. 
Whoa, me and all of my friends, 

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like very close childhood 
friends. 

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We. 
All slept puking up by us. 

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Sat in the front room, we all 
had a sleepover there. 

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It was great fun and the the 
their mum's funeral was apart 

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from the burying part, on the 
church part. 

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But like the, the half, the wake
was just really good fun and it 

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was such a relief to kind of 
have it done. 

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Do you know what I mean? 
And then another memory. 

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Is who took who took, Um, the 
management of. 

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My dad through my dad. 
My dad, yeah. 

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And have gotten back. 
Together, they've gotten back 

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together. 
They were married. 

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Yeah. 
That's so beautiful. 

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Yeah. 
And so, um, the other memory is 

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my, my one, one guy who was in 
the church, he was a family 

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friend basically. 
He was, he's a black guy, but 

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he's from Donegal, speaks Irish.
And he was in talking to my 

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granny who lived in the granny 
flat. 

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Now this is the territory. 
Alcoholic turtle. 

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Do you know the back? 
Yeah. 

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And she was in in on the bed and
obviously she didn't go up to 

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the funeral and she was, you 
know, dosed up with sleeping 

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tablets and stuff. 
And a few people came in to to 

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pay their respects into her 
little Chateau fume and then her

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her little smoke room. 
And Jim was in there for a good 

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while talking to her. 
And he was playing the piano or 

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piano, the guitar and singing 
her songs. 

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And she was like, ohh, I love 
him. 

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He's brilliant. 
Thank you, Jim, you're 

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fantastic. 
And then you got to say goodbye,

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right, Peggy? 
I'm going to have to go. 

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And he leaned in to give her a 
kiss goodbye and said, ohh, 

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you're black. 
Only just realised what he's. 

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Far away, yes, she said to be 
over there. 

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Yeah. 
So that was that's that's 

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another nice memory of my. 
So any funerals you've been to 

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that have been particularly 
strange or? 

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That. 
Ohh wow OK broken the beast. 

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No, I haven't been to many 
funerals. 

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I really haven't been to many 
funerals. 

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But two women in my life, my 
grandmother and my great 

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grandmother, have both told me 
on their approximate death bed 

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in one way or another that there
were so ready. 

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And I think that is a beautiful 
thing. 

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Like I, I don't care what age I 
am. 

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I don't even care like who they 
knew who they were talking to or

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not. 
But to say, I think it's my 

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time. 
With the dream is not. 

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It it really is to like and it's
hard. 

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It was hard for me and I, I told
my grandmother that no, it 

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wasn't please stay here because 
I need you to be here. 

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I got a bit emotional now and 
but like, yeah, for for her to 

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tell me that she was ready, It's
she knew, she knew that. 

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And the last thing to go is her 
hearing and like everything like

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that. 
But she knew that it was her 

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time to go. 
I'm sure your mother did too, 

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but it was such a shorter space 
of. 

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Time 41 one thing she said one 
thing she said to my dad was 

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like, I know it's all it's all 
well and good for you guys being

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upset losing me, but I'm losing 
all of you. 

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And I do think that and she kind
of in her head had a second 

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chance at being her mum because 
she had left when we were 4-5 

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years later, she got married to 
dad and she was just kind of 

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settling into that life. 
I want to go back to you talk 

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about grandmother though. 
What made you emotional about 

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that there? 
Because I miss her I guess. 

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You miss her? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, I really miss her. 
Like, but we're not like a tight

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knit family. 
Like I wouldn't have seen her 

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every week. 
She lived in Longford first 

449
00:19:43,210 --> 00:19:46,180
since not joking joking family. 
I love you all. 

450
00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:50,190
Joking again. 
Joking, joking. 

451
00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:54,290
Long forgotten county. 
The county with no immediately 

452
00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:56,990
amenities um. 
What's the traffic likes? 

453
00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:59,130
Oh does that. 
I've put it on the map centre. 

454
00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:01,230
Parks in Longford isn't. 
It don't ask her if she knows 

455
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,690
nothing to Google it. 
Yes. 

456
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,470
Don't ask questions. 
It has one set of traffic lights

457
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,390
I hear. 
Yeah, ohh, just great memories. 

458
00:20:08,490 --> 00:20:10,310
She was brilliant. 
I loved her laugh. 

459
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,760
I think that there's a lot of 
her in me as well, so I felt 

460
00:20:13,770 --> 00:20:15,700
that bond. 
But yeah, telling me that she 

461
00:20:15,710 --> 00:20:18,780
wanted to go and I was holding 
her hand and maybe I sang our 

462
00:20:18,790 --> 00:20:20,500
song. 
I'm sure the singing, but maybe 

463
00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:23,460
I sang our song or something. 
And that's like, I don't know, 

464
00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:26,540
it's just like. 
Mr. Deeply emotional it was. 

465
00:20:26,550 --> 00:20:29,260
It was very. 
Like I think that she was. 

466
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,990
I think that I could feel her 
fear and her telling me that she

467
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,540
wanted to go. 
Another close person dying. 

468
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:38,360
And I'm so grateful that you. 
Did you just? 

469
00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:43,200
One and a half, 1 1/2 When 
Audrey's grandfather died and 

470
00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:47,240
you loved him and we used to 
always go visit him in the in 

471
00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:50,300
the old folks home. 
And I have a really nice picture

472
00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:54,080
and I think it all encompasses 
death and life and death and 

473
00:20:54,090 --> 00:20:57,000
life and the circular the way of
things. 

474
00:20:57,050 --> 00:21:00,240
Dude is just about walking but 
holding on to the Zimmer frame 

475
00:21:00,250 --> 00:21:04,000
at the end and Ben was sitting 
on the chair like this, holding 

476
00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:06,920
the Zimmer frame, looking down 
at him and it's just the two of 

477
00:21:06,930 --> 00:21:09,000
them holding it because baby 
needs a Walker and an old. 

478
00:21:09,010 --> 00:21:11,510
Needs Walker and are you? 
Ohh, my paint. 

479
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,100
So fucking beautiful. 
So, um, so yeah. 

480
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:19,450
And seeing his whole entire 
family around the bed, 

481
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,030
everyone's singing songs and 
laughing sporadically laughing 

482
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,690
and crying. 
But being so say and they they 

483
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,560
gave him awake like some of the 
family members stayed there till

484
00:21:29,570 --> 00:21:32,510
the next morning until like the 
removal or whatever. 

485
00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:38,900
But like seeing that your body 
is truly a vessel because I've 

486
00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:41,450
never seen that in depth before.
Like I think I only saw one of 

487
00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:43,380
my friends when I was like 15 
and I didn't. 

488
00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:47,040
Know, Oh my God. 
Yeah, and my she was actually my

489
00:21:47,050 --> 00:21:51,260
next door neighbor. 
Um, but seeing the difference 

490
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:53,670
and in the such a short space of
time being at the. 

491
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,680
Bedside just being. 
Gone just, and it's not the 

492
00:21:56,690 --> 00:22:00,170
person anymore and it's so 
definitively not the person. 

493
00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:03,150
And then you realise that they 
were filled with something and 

494
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,590
this is just a vessel like so 
clear as day that they've gone 

495
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,680
somewhere else and they're happy
being somewhere else because 

496
00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:10,370
they know that their families 
all around and they know that 

497
00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:13,420
they had a good life. 
I want I, I feel, I feel like 

498
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:17,460
I'm not scared of death now, but
knowing this, that you're like, 

499
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840
no, come on, like nobody wants 
to die alone now. 

500
00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:22,590
Do you know, nobody wants to 
like, you know, God bless all 

501
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,840
those fucking if there's a God 
or whoever you are, whatever you

502
00:22:26,850 --> 00:22:28,950
are. 
Okay, yeah, yeah, countdown. 

503
00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:33,010
Hardcore atheist, no deal. 
Okay, but like God bless all 

504
00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:36,580
those people in in COVID who 
were separated and everything 

505
00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:38,400
like that. 
And I think that it's just a 

506
00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:41,410
really fucking beautiful thing. 
It's the most beautiful thing in

507
00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:44,520
the world apart from. 
Giving birth or birth, yeah, I 

508
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:46,610
know. 
It is like wow. 

509
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,920
I was blown away. 
I was so delighted that you got 

510
00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:50,790
to see it. 
Jude went over and patted him on

511
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,580
the head and everything. 
Like, no, no. 

512
00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,350
And but like, just seeing the 
stark difference of life. 

513
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,210
Yes. 
And you're like, holy shit. 

514
00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:03,910
I didn't. 
Like, you hear people talking 

515
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,170
about it, but I haven't 
experienced it until, like, 

516
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:09,130
until two years ago. 
I think it's nearly 2 years, a 

517
00:23:09,140 --> 00:23:11,830
year and a half since he died. 
But like, the difference of 

518
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,780
visually seeing a vessel where 
once something lived inside and 

519
00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:18,430
now it's gone somewhere else. 
And this is not it without that.

520
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,310
I think another thing that was 
beautiful about what you're 

521
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,730
describing there is, is how 
death brings us together. 

522
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,750
Yeah. 
I mean, obviously, as you spoke 

523
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,550
about the COVID thing, that was 
absolutely horrendous. 

524
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:29,060
So inhumane. 
The people couldn't be together 

525
00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,960
when people lost loved ones was 
absolutely horrendous. 

526
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:33,740
I've seen a couple of friends go
through that actually. 

527
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:37,390
But, um, this, this bringing 
people together, my mum's wake, 

528
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,480
this kind of, this, this 
beautiful piece of it. 

529
00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:45,690
But actually, when my mother 
died, um, the day she died, we 

530
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,510
were brought into the hospital 
and we weren't expecting this 

531
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,680
because it was so sudden and she
was upstairs and we went up to 

532
00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:55,180
say her goodbyes because we were
told, look, she probably is 

533
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:58,810
going to die days. 
And then we went downstairs on 

534
00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:01,130
myself, my sister and my 3, 
three older brothers were 

535
00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:04,750
sitting in, in one place And, 
and up until then we had been 

536
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,730
quite scattered. 
So we had lived, we had lived 

537
00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:08,780
together. 
Then two of the boys left and 

538
00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,390
then they came back and, you 
know, so we never really been 

539
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,590
all in one room for quite a 
while at this point. 

540
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,290
My brother had been living in 
Australia for a while and we 

541
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,330
were sitting together and we 
were talking about South Park 

542
00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:21,980
and Hanky the Christmas poo was 
big black Christmas. 

543
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:23,850
Love that guy. 
And we were all talking about it

544
00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:25,790
when we were trying to explain, 
I think one of one of the guys 

545
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,500
hadn't seen it or. 
And we were trying to explain 

546
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:29,080
them dancing Christmas poo. 
Yeah. 

547
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:31,250
And we were talking about it. 
So we were all laughing about 

548
00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:32,600
this and all of us were 
laughing. 

549
00:24:32,610 --> 00:24:36,980
And just as we all laughed, I 
knew it happened because I was 

550
00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:38,820
like, ohh. 
And then my mum's best friend 

551
00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:40,970
Mabel came up to me and said, do
you wanna go upstairs, sweetie? 

552
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:43,670
And I said apart. 
He said I don't want to cause I 

553
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,320
know she's dead. 
And the other part of me said I,

554
00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:48,600
I need to. 
And I went up. 

555
00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:50,380
I'm getting goosebumps thinking 
and getting out of emotional 

556
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:51,640
thinking about it. 
I haven't in years. 

557
00:24:51,650 --> 00:24:55,590
I'm so used to talking about it.
But yeah, I said no, we'll go 

558
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880
up. 
And I went up and she was dead. 

559
00:24:56,890 --> 00:25:01,260
And I I did choose Squid and see
her and exactly that that 

560
00:25:01,270 --> 00:25:04,220
someone you know, that's that's 
just a vessel. 

561
00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,720
As you said, it's it's. 
Thought it would be scary. 

562
00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:08,300
Did you think it was gonna be 
scary? 

563
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:10,460
And that's why you're here now. 
I have seen dead bodies since 

564
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:11,550
I've been fucking freaked out by
it. 

565
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,680
But I think it was Mum. 
It was, I knew it was something 

566
00:25:13,690 --> 00:25:17,220
I needed to do. 
Um, interestingly, this is a 

567
00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:19,820
strange kind of more spiritual 
part of it. 

568
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:23,050
But when mum was sick for those 
four weeks, we could never hug 

569
00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:25,300
her that much. 
And I, we, I would always try to

570
00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:28,420
get onto her lap and hug her 
because she had left us and then

571
00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:30,410
come back. 
I was always kind of trying not 

572
00:25:30,420 --> 00:25:31,690
to take for granted that she was
there. 

573
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:34,250
So I would be very, very needy 
child and cling on to her. 

574
00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:36,910
But we couldn't hug her that 
much because she was frail or 

575
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,570
she was. 
Yeah. 

576
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:41,210
She, her lines, all the bloods 
going later, veins very sore and

577
00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:43,410
it was just difficult on 
hospital bed. 

578
00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:49,680
And um, I remember praying 
before I went into the hospital.

579
00:25:49,690 --> 00:25:52,000
I just wanna hug her. 
I just wanna hug her one more 

580
00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:53,380
time. 
That didn't happen. 

581
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:56,420
She, she died. 
And that night I went home 

582
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:57,920
again. 
The shock piece. 

583
00:25:57,930 --> 00:25:59,660
I don't think I slept like a 
baby that night. 

584
00:25:59,670 --> 00:26:02,850
And, and I woke up because in 
the middle of a dream was in the

585
00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:06,310
middle of a dream about nothing.
And out of nowhere, my mom 

586
00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:10,270
appears in the, in the dream and
she walks from the periphery. 

587
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:12,280
She's looking to head out or 
something. 

588
00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:14,500
And I said mum and she said, 
hmm. 

589
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:17,170
I said but sure, I was about to 
say, but you're dead grandma. 

590
00:26:17,670 --> 00:26:19,620
And then nothing. 
And then the two of us hugged 

591
00:26:19,670 --> 00:26:21,560
Jesus. 
And she was wearing this is the 

592
00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:25,760
weirdest car I know. 
She was wearing what I didn't 

593
00:26:25,770 --> 00:26:28,660
pick for her, but her two best 
friends picked for her to bury, 

594
00:26:28,810 --> 00:26:30,990
to bury her in. 
So she's wearing this you 

595
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,960
already? 
Knew. 

596
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:35,390
That it was again, only copped a
few days later, like that's what

597
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,440
that's what she was wearing, 
that's what she wants. 

598
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:41,300
And it was it was absolutely. 
Now look, you could just say it 

599
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:43,840
was amazing and it was such a 
strange dream. 

600
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:46,370
I've I've I've analysed it so 
many times. 

601
00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:48,050
It was there, the silence was 
deafening. 

602
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:49,920
It was like when you put your 
ear up to a shell. 

603
00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:54,460
It was such a spiritual piece, 
you know, and it was it was just

604
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:57,040
unbelievable, but it was it was 
really comforting, you know what

605
00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:58,920
I mean? 
And whether that was memory or 

606
00:26:58,930 --> 00:27:02,260
actually spiritual or whatever 
you want, we do have the power 

607
00:27:02,270 --> 00:27:04,950
to get through death. 
We we do have the strength. 

608
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,110
We can draw it from within. 
We can draw from the person 

609
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,180
we've lost. 
And I think we can definitely 

610
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:12,220
draw from, you know, our our 
brother's friends Downing a pint

611
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,900
of Guinness or, you know, you 
said you patting him on the. 

612
00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:17,580
Head no fucking fit a laughter 
100. 

613
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:20,770
No reason, no reason. 
You want that though. 100% I'd 

614
00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:22,990
like we were laughing. 
I know for a fact we were 

615
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,610
laughing at the Christmas poo. 
That is when she died because it

616
00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:28,030
is exactly when she died. 
She was 139. 

617
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,120
I think it was in the. 
Afternoon cooking class, though.

618
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:32,550
It's amazing and I thank you so 
much. 

619
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:35,550
But also, like, I grew up 
thinking that was scary. 

620
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,410
Like, you know, I remember my 
childhood Guinea pig died and I 

621
00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:39,830
didn't want to pick it up 
because I was scared. 

622
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,250
It's dead body. 
Like, you know, there's all 

623
00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:47,210
these, like, you know, movies 
about ghosts and like, coldness 

624
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:51,280
and finally finality. 
It's it's, we're taught to be 

625
00:27:51,290 --> 00:27:54,100
scared of it. 
We are taught in our society, 

626
00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:56,260
our culture. 
Running that separation, that 

627
00:27:56,270 --> 00:28:00,130
immediate knowing that the body 
is just there to hold us and 

628
00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:02,460
there's something inside is what
makes us, but there's something 

629
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:06,270
inside is is not tangible. 
It's like this subjective 

630
00:28:06,430 --> 00:28:08,340
energy. 
It is literally all it is. 

631
00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:11,750
Is, I mean, I suppose we're 
talking about those situations 

632
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,260
where death is expected and we 
like they're there are people 

633
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:18,250
taken well before their time and
really tragic incidents, cancers

634
00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:19,920
that around and say it was 
beautiful and stunning, you 

635
00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:21,970
know, and I don't want to 
detract from anybody who's lost 

636
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:23,720
someone, ohh, of course, or 
anything like that. 

637
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:27,030
But I think I think we need to 
what we want to do is we just 

638
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,340
explore death and and that idea 
when you talked about nearly 

639
00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:32,600
being knocked down in the car. 
I thought I was. 

640
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:35,410
Gone 100 lbs so strange. 
I don't know that I've ever, I 

641
00:28:35,420 --> 00:28:38,700
think the clothes I've ever felt
to death was was being in 

642
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:40,340
labour. 
Not that I thought was death, 

643
00:28:40,350 --> 00:28:42,970
but I didn't have the epidural 
on Ray. 

644
00:28:43,030 --> 00:28:45,450
And I remember that feeling of 
when I was going through the 

645
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:47,160
transition, which I didn't 
realise I was then, which is 

646
00:28:47,170 --> 00:28:48,480
when your body goes from 9:00 to
10:00. 

647
00:28:48,550 --> 00:28:50,920
And me just anyone who doesn't 
know, ohh, God, they call us 

648
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:54,910
transition because that's when 
the woman just goes, it's just 

649
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,550
leave the drugs. 
And the only way I would 

650
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,590
describe it is it's not corporal
anymore, corporeal anymore. 

651
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,240
It's, it's, it's, it's not 
physical. 

652
00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:05,490
It's, it is spiritual. 
You're like, I, I like, I'm 

653
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,820
standing at the corner of the 
gates of heaven and hell. 

654
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,470
That's what I felt like I was, I
had to be moved from the pool 

655
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,590
room up to another room. 
And I remember thinking a hole 

656
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,190
had opened up in front of me and
I was like, just fucking I wanna

657
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,650
die. 
Like I want to die because you 

658
00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:19,420
really wanted. 
I don't know why and actually 

659
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:22,850
would love to know the the 
actual enterprise. 

660
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:25,700
The GMT probably in the brain. 
Thing it is, but it is. 

661
00:29:25,810 --> 00:29:28,060
And you're begging for death. 
A lot of women beg for death. 

662
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:30,280
They close the windows because 
they're like, women try and get 

663
00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:32,260
out the doors. 
And I don't know, Katie, did you

664
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:34,120
beg for death at one point? 
Yeah. 

665
00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:37,700
Yeah, what? 
I wanted. 

666
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:41,160
The scalpel to cut your hands 
and my God, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

667
00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:42,660
You. 
That was on summer, was it? 

668
00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:45,340
Yeah. 
I mean, it's just like it is 

669
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:48,860
just it, it's true insanity. 
It is. 

670
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:50,790
And would you agree with that, 
the heaven and hell thing as 

671
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,510
well? 
Yeah, It's, it's spiritual, like

672
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,460
you're moved like it's, it's 
just anyway. 

673
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:57,750
So that's. 
Yeah, but like you're putting 

674
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,320
words to it as best you can, but
really it's just, it's mind 

675
00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:05,100
boggling. 
I know it's, it's, it's just 

676
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,140
incredible. 
It's like it's a miracle. 

677
00:30:07,530 --> 00:30:09,150
The it's the only way you can 
describe it. 

678
00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:11,940
It's so and so and so is death 
in that same regard. 

679
00:30:11,950 --> 00:30:14,900
And being on the precipice and 
you know, you having been 

680
00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:18,180
through, you know, going, having
such struggles with your mental 

681
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:20,140
health and stuff and being on 
the verge. 

682
00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:23,660
I've never been that close to 
wanting to end end at all like 

683
00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:27,260
or foreseeing it. 
Like, you know, obviously 

684
00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:29,540
everybody's rock bottom looks 
different. 

685
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:32,080
Well, I heard a really good 
saying actually recently. 

686
00:30:32,150 --> 00:30:34,210
Your rock bottom is when you 
decide to stop digging. 

687
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:37,060
Which I love. 
Well, it's like it's so 

688
00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:38,370
profound. 
I was like, ohh, like I'm gonna 

689
00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:39,770
keep that because it is. 
It actually is. 

690
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,690
And it actually really nice 
motivational piece. 

691
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,840
Like your rock bottom is when 
you decide to stop you taking 

692
00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:47,490
you put the shovel down because 
you can still go further or you 

693
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,110
can stop. 
You know, it's your, it's your 

694
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,070
usage will stop. 
That is my rock bottom. 

695
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,820
Yeah, exactly. 
My funeral. 

696
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,260
I want, um, I want to be, I'd 
like to be on display in some 

697
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:03,170
sort of like, yeah, some sort of
tapping taffeta. 

698
00:31:03,260 --> 00:31:09,660
Yeah, Adam put me in a shitty 
fuck off in a fucking car work 

699
00:31:09,670 --> 00:31:11,800
well, not a cardboard coffin. 
Could be frightened then that I 

700
00:31:12,730 --> 00:31:15,400
would RIP and I. 
Forgot what? 

701
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:17,780
Exactly. 
The juices. 

702
00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:19,990
Yeah. 
So like a Wicker Wickers grand. 

703
00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:24,620
I want, I do want to have. 
I am the greatest mother fucker 

704
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:28,100
that you're ever gonna meet. 
Ohh. 

705
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:32,910
And John Grant GMF John Grant. 
I'd like people to laugh and 

706
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,430
walk in the forest. 
And if they want to cry, have a 

707
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,380
good cry. 
Yeah, but I do want more. 

708
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:37,200
I do. 
I do. 

709
00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:40,240
I'd love to see people take. 
What's it like a little piece 

710
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:41,860
apiece? 
Yeah, I'd love. 

711
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:46,590
Yeah. 
Bangers going off just by one 

712
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,200
person in the back. 
I'd love someone. 

713
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,270
To be like God. 
She was very attractive woman or

714
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,690
something like that, you know 
what I mean? 

715
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,770
She was. 
Speaking into a. 

716
00:31:52,780 --> 00:32:02,710
Microphone mistake on breakfast.
Oh my Sorry, Danielle. 

717
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:05,870
What The funny thing is we, I 
think our very first episode, we

718
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,510
both admitted to flying out the 
womb looking for attention. 

719
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,700
Ohh yeah. 
And this is the fucking thing 

720
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:15,140
that I think it's, it's, it's 
really, um, it's really amazing 

721
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:19,550
that you, you want that little 
piece because like we both, I, I

722
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,170
know you have as well gotten 
messages on social media. 

723
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:25,420
And this is the fucking 
weirdness and beauty of, um, 

724
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:27,270
having a big head from 
strangers. 

725
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,850
I've literally got messaged from
people like their third round of

726
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:33,790
cancer in hospital thanking me 
for making them laugh every 

727
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,690
single day to tune in. 
Like, you know, your midwife 

728
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:37,870
experiences. 
Yeah. 

729
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,510
Like we are literally changing 
people's lives and we don't even

730
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,330
fucking know it. 
And then you're like, with the 

731
00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:45,820
death, you're bringing people 
together of those most important

732
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:48,670
people, but also, ironically, 
the people that can hurt you the

733
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,640
most. 
Right? 

734
00:32:49,650 --> 00:32:51,220
Yeah. 
Because you got this familial 

735
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:53,480
attachment, and families are 
fucking complicated. 

736
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:56,920
But that, as you said, the 
coming together of those people 

737
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:59,380
doesn't matter what they've said
to each other in the past. 

738
00:32:59,450 --> 00:33:01,060
They wanted to be crying and 
laughing. 

739
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:02,910
Together. 
Death is the great leveller. 

740
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,820
Isn't it stunning? 
Yeah, Death is the great 

741
00:33:04,830 --> 00:33:06,560
leveller. 
It's the great uniter, it's the 

742
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:09,000
great leveller. 
It is also it takes away so 

743
00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:11,580
much, but it also it, it gives 
us all fucking perspective 

744
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:14,020
because that's how I am since 
last year. 

745
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:17,140
I am like only for today, like 
it is today. 

746
00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:20,230
I have it is all I have. 
I don't have yesterday's gone. 

747
00:33:20,410 --> 00:33:22,400
I know this sounds kind of live,
laugh, love, but it's not 

748
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:26,420
because when you start to apply 
that to your daily life, I like 

749
00:33:26,430 --> 00:33:28,830
ohh, God, like, you know that 
the finances of the car we're 

750
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,100
gonna move house. 
Like what about my job and you 

751
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:33,180
know, I was aquatic. 
Kids be like when they're older.

752
00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:35,320
Just fucking don't worry about 
it because what can you do 

753
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:36,780
today? 
Like literally walking You do. 

754
00:33:36,790 --> 00:33:38,880
Just do do your best. 
Just do your best to be sound to

755
00:33:38,890 --> 00:33:40,170
yourself. 
Put yourself first. 

756
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:43,820
Could I ask you a question about
your belief in God? 

757
00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:47,810
Okay, it's not it's not going to
get hot and heavy, don't worry. 

758
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,230
Do you think that we go 
somewhere? 

759
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,820
Yeah. 
Yea. 

760
00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,890
So you think it's eternal? 
Yeah, you live on no matter 

761
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:56,650
what. 
Yeah. 

762
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:59,330
What do you think? 
Undecided. 

763
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,990
Agnostic, I think they call it. 
Now on that rambling, I would 

764
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,650
like to thank you very much for 
talking about that. 

765
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:07,160
That was a bit of a heavy. 
Thank you. 

766
00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:08,980
Thank you. 
That was a bit of a heavy one 

767
00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:10,610
this week. 
So if you are affected by any of

768
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:13,340
that, please look at the numbers
below or reach out to somebody. 

769
00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:16,500
If you need a talk you can 
always chat to us but I don't 

770
00:34:16,510 --> 00:34:19,889
think much good. 
No, probably. 

771
00:34:20,070 --> 00:34:24,040
Yeah, we'll be chatting to you 
next week anyway, and in the 

772
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:26,830
mean time to yourself. 
Yeah, that's the best I have 

773
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,810
really just. 
Book up, will you? 

774
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:29,929
Book up. 
Pull your socks up now. 

775
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:33,670
Then pull it out together man. 
Stop it.

