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What's going on, everyone? 
We are the All In podcast. 

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We're three guys in our late 20s
who are all in to being too 

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scared to ask for help. 
Amen. 

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I mean, we're all in on asking 
for help. 

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All the time. 
All the time helpless. 

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We're we're guys that are 
figuring out how to be adults, 

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how to be dads, how to fix 
things. 

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And we don't know what the heck 
we're doing. 

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Yeah. 
Do you where you guys at in your

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in your housing journey? 
Are you? 

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What do you mean? 
By Do you live in a home? 

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I do live in a home. 
That's good. 

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That's good, you know, Yeah, 
it's it's our, it's our first 

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home ownership experience. 
That's awesome. 

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Yeah. 
Which has been great. 

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It's been about nine months or 
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We we live in a we live in a new
build house, which is kind of 

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nice because there's not a whole
lot of things. 

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Nothing's broken. 
There's nothing, there's nothing

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broken. 
I will say. 

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I mean, there's like some 
projects that we want to do 

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because you move into a new 
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Yeah. 
And it's like they just kind of,

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you know, they put the white 
walls up and kind. 

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Of a blank slate. 
It's a blank slate. 

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So there's a lot of ideas that 
we've had and in the nine months

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that we've been there, we've 
done a couple things. 

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I built some garage shelves. 
But I will say there's we had a,

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one of our kitchen chairs that 
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A family member was sitting in 
it and a family member a family 

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member. 
Not to be named. 

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Not not to be, not to be named 
was sitting in it and it snapped

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and one of the one of the legs 
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So it was like mine was. 
This like did it Pierce the 

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drywall? 
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It was like it was, I mean, it 
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laughed about it. 
Oh my, that must have been some 

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force to Pierce the drywall. 
Well, yeah, the the chair, I 

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mean, it's like the chair, you 
look online and it's got like a 

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200 LB weight limit or something
like that, you know? 

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So even when I sit in it, I get 
in and really that's it. 

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Yeah, that that feels a little. 
I mean, it feels it's pretty. 

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You better. 
You better leave a review That 

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said, hey, make sure to weigh 
yourself before you sit. 

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Yeah, well, very accurate person
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They were two O 1. 
It snapped, they collapsed onto 

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the ground and then the leg just
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And that happened probably six 
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That's and I bought all the 
stuff to try and. 

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Fix. 
It but I just haven't it's kind 

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of hidden behind the curtains, 
you know so we put some tape on 

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it so that the hole is I mean 
you can still see it's clear 

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tape you can still see the hole 
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That's one of my favorite 
things, but Dave bought it. 

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I think it's so funny. 
I don't know if you guys can 

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relate to this, but like growing
up, when you break something and

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you just like, I don't know what
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And so you kind of like put it 
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that maybe the next person that 
uses it will break it. 

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Maybe I'll shoot. 
I broke. 

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Yeah. 
Be like, oh, you broke that. 

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How could you do that knowing 
full well that I broke it, you 

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know? 
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about being married is no longer
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males. 
I kind of miss that. 

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I don't know if that's the best 
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Decorations was how many flags 
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How many nails can you put in in
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Yeah, the the house does look a 
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And how many mattresses can we 
put on the ground with no bed 

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frames? 
In the corner. 

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In the corner, always. 
Never always in the corner a 

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single. 
Like someone before they get 

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married in their 20s that 
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corner. 
It's a get groundbreaking 

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concept. 
It's a can of every bed in my 

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life was in the corner, yes, and
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it. 
Opens up so much room. 

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Scared when I first got married.
I'm like, where's the safety of 

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the wall? 
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Oh yes. 
Am I gonna roll off? 

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That's the thing, yeah. 
Am I gonna roll onto my wife? 

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Yeah, I don't know your .1 of 
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having a newborn coming up in a 
couple months is falling asleep 

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and rolling on top of it. 
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That's it's I mean I'm gonna go.
Are you guys gonna Co sleep with

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the baby? 
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OK, I don't know. 
Well, then what? 

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What are you gonna you just. 
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I'll just jump in the crib. 
And he's gonna roll off the bed 

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into the. 
Pack and play. 

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Hey check the weight limit on 
the on the back. 

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Of the way, what is that weight 
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No, it's just like, I mean, you 
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naps, you know, and the baby 
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They're like things like that. 
And I'm like, what if I like 

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roll over and just like, kill 
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I used to wait. 
I mean, we did, we we Co slept 

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for a little bit and I used to 
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probably four or five, six 
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up drenched in sweat. 
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Actually this was even I did, 
this was even before he was 

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sleeping in the bassinet. 
And I would just, I would wake 

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up drenched in sweat and like 
run up and like go check on him 

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to make sure he was alive, you 
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be soaked. 
I don't know what, I was so 

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anxious and didn't even realize 
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And that's what like, I mean, we
got, we probably got a lot of 

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guys, you know, tuned in who 
young dads. 

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So many guys about. 
Thousands, millions who were, 

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who were either young dads, 
maybe they just graduated 

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college, maybe they were in 
college, maybe late high school.

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But you know, when you when you 
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there's that feeling of like, 
it's, it's mine. 

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Like you're telling me I can 
just destroy something and 

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there's not a landlord to call 
to come fix it. 

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Like when we moved into our 
first house, the refrigerator 

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didn't work. 
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And I just sat there and I was 
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What do I do? 
What do I do? 

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So I bought another one and we 
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That's where you go to YouTube. 
Well, The thing is, you watch 

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those YouTube videos. 
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And they make it look so easy. 
It's like, all right, do this, 

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pull this out, take a wire, cut 
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You're done. 
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And it's always like, it's 
always an electrician who's 

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filming the video. 
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It's like, well, no wonder it 
took you 2 minutes. 

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You went to tech school for 
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An electrician by. 
Train an electrician by train I.

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I just had that experience. 
I built garage shelves. 

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We needed we needed storage in 
the very complicated. 

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Well, OK, well. 
It's so much more than you'd 

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think. 
Actually, yeah. 

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So I looked online and it was 
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were built was like you, instead
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freestanding. 
What are you laughing about? 

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I'm laughing. 
About when we built my bunk bed.

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I'm sorry. 
Well, you finished the shelves. 

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Bunk bed is a loose. 
You were able to put a bed on 

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it, but that was. 
Couldn't put two beds on. 

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It Yeah. 
So, so we were, I was building 

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these garage shelves and I 
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like an 8 step thing. 
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free standing, what you did was 
you put like the backside of the

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shelves, you screwed them into 
the the studs, the studs in the 

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wall. 
And then you kind of build the 

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shelves out and it was like 8 
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It was like find the studs, put 
the things in there. 

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Was it was it in a box or did 
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plywood? 
Like was it a a set? 

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No, no, wasn't. 
I just found plans online. 

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OK. 
And then I bought, you know, the

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materials that I needed and I 
just started, you know, trying 

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to trying to build it. 
But the first time I cut the 

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wood because it was like, you 
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what? 
I don't even know what you call 

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it, but it's like the, the slats
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you're putting the plywood on 
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And I was like cutting all this 
wood and I didn't have a, what's

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it called a miter saw, the one 
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and it cuts a straight line. 
So I was like, I'll just use my 

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circular saw, which is, you 
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your hands and but it the, and I
thought I was doing everything 

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correctly, but I cut all the 
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of an inch and 1/2 an inch 
difference like with with each 

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one. 
So I didn't fit. 

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So it didn't fit. 
So all of them were different 

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sizes. 
So I needed to redo it. 

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So then I borrowed a friend's 
miter saw and then I was kind of

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wood and, and I built all the 
pieces and then Reagan and I, my

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wife and I were trying to put up
on the wall, but the entire 

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thing just, it kind of bent 
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So the entire thing just 
collapsed and I had to redo it 

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and it took me like 6 days. 
But you read the plans like you 

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look at people doing it and 
you're like. 7 This is 7 easy 

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steps. 
Two hours. 

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Yeah. 
Couple screws and we're there. 

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Yeah. 
I mean I, I, I have a funny 

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story. 
Recently my dad shout out dad 

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gifted us a grill which is 
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Father's Day, Little Grill. 
Was it Father's Day gift? 

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It was a wedding present. 
Yeah, it's great. 

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And would you get George 
Foreman? 

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Couldn't even tell you. 
Just a grill and a. 

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Grill. 
You know, it's always, it's one 

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of those things that I'm like, I
want to, I want to grill things,

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you know, I want to be the dad 
that wings, you know, my kids 

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bring their their friends and I 
just like grill food for all of 

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them, right? 
Oh yeah. 

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Or I want to host like cookouts,
things like that. 

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It's like, yeah, it's just like 
a thing that I want to learn how

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to do. 
Yes. 

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And so I get this grill and I 
don't know what I expected, but 

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I open it and it's just like all
the parts. 

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Why are these things not come 
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You have to pay extra fee, 
apparently, which I totally 

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would have if it wasn't like a 
gift that was given to me. 

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So I, I was like, I can't be 
that hard. 

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I saw the instruction manual and
it was a little tough to read. 

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You know, it has like pictures 
and you can tell someone took 

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the pictures with their phones 
and they're all kind of grainy 

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and black and white on the 
instruction man. 

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So it was like kind of 
difficult, but I was like, yeah,

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it shouldn't be that hard to put
a grill together. 

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Well, it took me about 10 hours 
to put this grill together. 

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And consecutively Or did you 
break it up? 

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Consecutive no. 
I was like, I just need to lock 

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in yes. 
And tell me me I need you to go 

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as far away as possible. 
Well, I need, yes. 

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Because we started, she's like, 
hey, why don't you build the 

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grill today? 
I want like, and we can like 

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grill something tonight. 
And then I was like, sure. 

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How about in two? 
Weeks. 

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Well, yeah. 
And she would come out and check

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on me and was like, I don't want
to talk to you. 

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Yeah. 
Like, I was so frustrated by 

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this girl, Like, I don't talk to
anyone. 

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Yes. 
Of course. 

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And worst mood ever. 
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And then by the time I finish, I
was like, I'm not grilling 

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tonight. 
I I still haven't used the 

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grill. 
It's been two months and I'm 

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scared because I have to like, 
you know, mess with the spark 

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plug and like connect. 
I'm like, what if I did that 

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wrong? 
And the gas is just leaking. 

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You know, with the gas and it 
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You know, and I orphaned my 
child like that is my I'm so 

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scared. 
Use this grill. 

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I don't even know what it is. 
I am so scared to use my grill 

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because since I put it together,
Yeah, I you know, but I didn't 

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want to ask for help, so I 
didn't want. 

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You what do you think the next 
step is? 

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I think the next step is to 
grill. 

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Are you gonna commit to that 
right now? 

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Yeah. 
Let's make a commitment. 

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Let's make a commitment right 
now. 

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I wanna grill. 
I wanna grill. 

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Last week we hosted two of our 
friends over. 

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They're getting married this 
weekend, actually. 

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Shut up them they came over and 
the guy is super into grilling. 

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Yep. 
And so I kind of teed it up was 

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like, hey, you should check out 
the new grill. 

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Can you you know, I I was having
trouble. 

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You wanna make sure it works? 
Like, yeah, sure. 

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You're really good at grilling. 
So he went out and was like 

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looking at the grill and I was 
like kind of hiding behind the 

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wall in case it like blew up. 
He was kind of like my. 

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Might that be manslaughter? 
Like what would happen? 

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You know, I don't know, Would I 
be liable for? 

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It depends on I think if it. 
Came out that you were like 

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that. 
You were hiding like you 

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anticipated it blowing up well. 
Right, but nothing happened, so 

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we're. 
Good, I'm saying in the case 

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that it did, but anyways, 
continue. 

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No, that's it. 
So now I know that it works and 

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it won't blow up. 
OK, so now I couldn't use it. 

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Yeah. 
But you haven't grilled yet. 

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When did they? 
That was last week. 

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That was last week, yeah. 
The the thing I want to know is 

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like, I have men in my life who 
when I need help, I call. 

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So I got a buddy Dave. 
I got a buddy, Dominic I. 

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Got a car, guy. 
Yeah, I got a. 

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But it's like, how did they get 
to where they are? 

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And how did I get to where I am,
which is to be about as handy as

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this table. 
Yeah, and and what you what 4? 

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Feet. 
No. 

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Hands, Yeah. 
What you tell what, what you 

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always hear from these guys. 
Like one of these guys came over

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and he taught me how to take off
the popcorn from my ceiling. 

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It's like the, you know, that 
texture. 

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Yeah, took a long time, but he's
really good at it. 

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And I'm like, oh, where? 
How'd you How'd you learn how to

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hear? 
It you're so good at removing 

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popcorn. 
Where did you learn? 

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Possibly. 
And guess what He said. 

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YouTube no no his trade school. 
Yeah, always right. 

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His dad. 
Oh, but we did. 

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We did stuff like this growing 
up. 

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He was the oldest at 9, which 
is, you know, crazy in and of 

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itself. 
And they're like, you know, 

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tight financially because they 
didn't have, you know, they had 

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nine kids, a lot of mouths to 
feed. 

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So it's just like, hey, when the
toilet's broken, don't call the 

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plumber. 
You know, we'll figure it out. 

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So I'm like my dad. 
I mean, I, I, we just didn't do 

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a ton of that stuff growing up. 
Like we, we had someone who 

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came, we can't had someone who 
mowed the lawn. 

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First lawn I ever mowed was when
I bought my house. 

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Really. 
Are you serious? 

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You've never felt more out of 
place than not knowing how to 

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turn? 
I'd never mowed a lawn. 

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Ever. 
Did your your dad mowed it or 

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where'd you say no it? 
Paid. 

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You just had a service. 
They had a, they had a service 

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that came. 
But like leaves, raking leaves. 

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Yeah, very basic human 
functioning. 

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Did you have to call someone for
that? 

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No. 
I, I I. 

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Figured it out after staring at.
It what do we like? 

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I've got all these. 
Blisters on my thumbs now. 

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But it's just like if you're if 
you didn't know, if you didn't 

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learn these things, now you 
become a dad, you become a young

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man, you're put in a world where
you don't really know what 

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you're doing. 
And, you know, that's the that 

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you rely on friendships, You 
rely on ChatGPT. 

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We were. 
I mean, I've tried to do house 

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projects because I want to try 
to learn this kind of stuff. 

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Yeah. 
And we've accomplished a variety

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of them, some well, some not so 
well, but it is fun. 

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I think that's the crazy thing 
is like whether it's the grill, 

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but you finish something. 
You feel good. 

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Even if it's twenty hours and 
you dropped, you know so many F 

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words in the process. 
I am the worst person when I'm 

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building something Emily's like 
I cannot. 

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All the worst parts of me come 
out. 

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But you finish and it's a great,
it's an amazing feeling. 

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Yeah. 
Absolutely, like I built an IKEA

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dresser with particle board. 
Built this with my bare hands 

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and wood dowels that are holding
this thing together. 

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Hey, what's going on guys? 
This is John Michael Lucido and 

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Let's go all in on SEQ 26 have. 
You ever built, have you guys 

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ever built a bench or just 
anything to a bench? 

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No. 
From scratch, no. 

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I had in college 1 summer. 
I had a maintenance job and I 

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was asked to it was at some 
summer camp and I was asked just

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like hey before all the campers 
get here, this bench broke. 

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Can you build a new bench? 
How'd you get put on maintenance

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duty? 
And so was like. 

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How do I build a bench? 
4 legs in a slack. 

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You would think no, no. 
And so I'm an engineer. 

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Well, I'm not an engineer. 
I studied engineering. 

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Biomedical that has nothing to 
do with building benches. 

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Engineering. 
You still have to go through the

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basics of engineering. 
Prosthetics benches, yeah. 

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I don't load bearing. 
I don't think the normals. 

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Math design, there's so much 
that goes into it. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
But I just, no, I'm not saying I

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use like, okay, you know, the 
fluid dynamics of the blood 

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flowing through the body is 
good. 

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Really gonna help me with this 
bench. 

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But it was just like learning 
like, OK, how do I design 

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something right? 
What is load bearing on a bench 

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so that I don't make a chair 
that breaks when someone that's 

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over 200 lbs sits on it? 
You know, you please remove your

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phone wallet before you sit 
down. 

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There's just someone standing 
next to the bench at all times. 

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You have to be this short to sit
on this bench. 

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I mean, you're making fun of 
yourself for. 

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Being an engineer when you were 
the ultimate fake engineer. 

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Prot engineering, yeah, I mean. 
Industrial. 

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District I would never, I would 
never claim that that was actual

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engineering. 
But you made the claim. 

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This is a real engineering. 
I'm just saying this. 

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Is not a hot take. 
I, I, I would agree with you 

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that you were an engineer. 
I, I, I was in the engineering. 

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I wasn't an engineer. 
I I studied engineering. 

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You studied engineering and 
graduated with an engineering. 

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I had a major that was in the 
engineering college. 

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That was the farthest thing 
possible from engineering. 

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Yeah. 
All I'm saying is that you said 

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you you, you were talking about 
the benchmaking and thinking 

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that your biomedical engineering
degree was going to help you 

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with. 
That No well, I didn't have a 

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degree back then. 
This is my sophomore year in 

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college, but I just finished all
the Gen. engineering classes you

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had taken, you know, and so. 
High level calculus. 

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They had this computer that 
could draw on it, and then I 

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could, like, measure things on 
it and like, kind of make like a

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3D model. 
Yeah. 

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And I could test like, OK, if 
you sit on now, why did I do 

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this for a bench? 
I don't know. 

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Yep. 
But it took me about two weeks 

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to build this bench, and you 
better believe that this is the 

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nicest bench I've ever. 
Seen it was. 

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Look at that bench. 
But I I spent so much money of 

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this poor camp's budget for that
summer, just like going to the 

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store to get wood, to get the 
right material. 

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I was like filing things down. 
I rented all this equipment like

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all this. 
Money. 

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We have money in the budget for 
music, for adoration. 

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Nope. 
Jose spent. 

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It on the bench, it's a bench. 
Not enough. 

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Food to feed the. 
Kids to this day. 

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That was 10 years ago. 
It's still there and it's still 

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there. 
And it's a wonderful bench it 

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it, you know, it's thanks to 
this bench, a lot of campers 

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have been able to have great 
experiences. 

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They they have great memories on
this bench for sure because of 

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how. 
Comfortable people come to 

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crash. 
And I think, I think you just 

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shared the really relatable 
experience when you're trying to

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build something for the first 
time, which is the amount of 

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Home Depot runs that you have to
have before you actually have 

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the materials that you need to 
build. 

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Some less than or equal to 6. 
I mean, I would say her building

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the garage shelves. 
I mean, I probably. 

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Went several times, yeah, I 
mean, but minimum, yeah, at 

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least five times. 
You ever seen your dad? 

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You ever seen your dad at Home 
Depot or, or, or yourself? 

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They're like, Oh yeah, what part
do you need? 

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He's like, yeah, it's, you know,
the one that screws in. 

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They're like, Oh yeah, you're 
talking about the, the hex 

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wrench. 
Oh, yeah, absolutely. 

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That's the one. 
Yeah. 

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It was right on the tip of my 
tongue. 

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Or like, you go to the car shop 
and it's like, hey, what's wrong

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with your vehicle? 
And it's like, yeah, I don't 

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know, something's crunchy. 
And they're like, yeah, we, we 

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did some research. 
Your, your belts are a little. 

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Oh, that's what I thought it 
was. 

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Yep, that was. 
Right. 

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Yeah, I I knew that was it. 
I knew it was the struts, you 

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know, don't know where they are,
but I thought that was it. 

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Yeah, you know. 
I think you know the Home Depot 

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guys. 
They're always ready to ask you.

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So cool. 
But I think that because they 

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know, I think they know. 
They're like, yeah, they're like

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this guy. 
The average guy will not ask for

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help. 
And he has a polo down. 

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He has no idea where the wrench 
is or what screws. 

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In the light bulb section. 
Yeah, he's wearing Chacos in 

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Home Depot, and there's no way 
he knows. 

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Well, I mean that that's kind of
what I think went into this 

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bench. 
Like I said, it took me, I don't

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know how long it actually take 
me, but it took me at least at 

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least a week, like 7 full days 
of just like trying to figure 

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out this bench because I was so 
scared of doing it wrong yes and

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I was so scared of I don't know 
how to build a bench and I don't

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want to admit that to anyone 
maybe. 

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That's the point. 
Yeah. 

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And I think, I think that's the 
big fear is the fear of not 

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knowing what to do. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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And feeling like you should know
what to do, even though no one's

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ever, you know, taught you 
before, like the experience of 

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like the, the anger that I've 
felt trying to hang a picture 

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frame on the wall. 
Let me tell you get like 

451
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,840
picture. 
Like if you're doing like a 

452
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,880
gallery of photos, you got to 
you got to measure everything 

453
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,920
out and you just, you just think
like I'll just, you know, I'll, 

454
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,200
I'll, you know, put a nail on 
the wall and I'll hang it up. 

455
00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,720
There's so much measuring and 
pre work that has to go into it.

456
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,640
I think one of I had a really 
humbling experience with my 

457
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,320
father-in-law. 
So the dining room table that we

458
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,120
have right now, it's. 
Really nice by the way. 

459
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,800
Yeah. 
I mean, it's, it's for those of 

460
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,800
our listeners that. 
Haven't eaten up the Caldwell 

461
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,680
house. 
Yeah, it is sturdy. 

462
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,720
It's sturdy. 
Over £200 load bearing. 

463
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,640
Yeah, it's very load bearing. 
It's very load bearing. 

464
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,680
But it was so we, it was kind of
fun building it. 

465
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,240
We took, I'm trying to remember,
it was like some wood from my 

466
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,280
wife's dad's parents house that 
they that they built and then 

467
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,120
from the other side of the 
family some extra. 

468
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,840
So it was like, you know, kind 
of, I mean the whole the point 

469
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,760
was not to make it sentimental, 
but it was kind of cool. 

470
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,960
It's like, you know, it comes 
from the grandparents houses or 

471
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,560
whatnot. 
But we were building it together

472
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960
and I'd never really. 
I'd never built a table before, 

473
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,480
but my father-in-law owns a 
construction remodeling business

474
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840
that. 
Great father-in-law to have. 

475
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,440
Oh absolutely. 
That's so handy. 

476
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,640
And his father was the one that 
started the company. 

477
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,760
So it's, it's been around for 55
years or whatever in San 

478
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,600
Antonio. 
But we were going to here's a 

479
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,400
garage, obviously with every 
tool imaginable. 

480
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,160
And we were going in there to to
cut some wood for the table and 

481
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,760
the legs, you know, had to be 
cut at a certain angle. 

482
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,000
And so we're cutting this wood 
and we cut it at the wrong 

483
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,960
angle. 
And if that were me in that 

484
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,040
moment, having never done this 
before, cutting the wood at the 

485
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,440
wrong angle, I would have been 
so upset and frustrated. 

486
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,120
Myself. 
Because now I'm like, I got to 

487
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:12,280
get any wood, you know, what am 
I going to do now? 

488
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320
I mess this up like blah, blah. 
But his reaction was like, you 

489
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,440
know, would you look at that? 
You know, we cut, we cut this 

490
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,000
thing at the at the wrong angle.
He always, he has a line. 

491
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040
He always says, let's get some 
light on the subject here. 

492
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,320
And he was just like, let's fix 
this problem that we created. 

493
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,840
And it, it actually, it really 
struck me in the moment. 

494
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,360
So I was like, here's this guy 
who's been doing this his entire

495
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,640
life and we're building a table.
And he, you know, he built his 

496
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,360
own dining room table. 
He's built other dining room 

497
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,160
tables before for other family 
members. 

498
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,520
And he messed up, right? 
And his reaction was like, let's

499
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,880
figure out how to fix it. 
There's no anger. 

500
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,680
And I was like, wow, I, why am I
putting so much pressure on 

501
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,480
myself to get it right? 
Perfectly the first time that 

502
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320
I've ever told you. 
You know, I mean, yeah, it's 

503
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,800
impossible. 
Not just that but I am always 

504
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,800
like why am I so scared of not 
knowing how to do something that

505
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,360
I've never done before Or why am
I so scared to ask for help like

506
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600
my cars AC just went out last 
weekend. 

507
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,360
Welcome to the club baby. 
For for those of our listeners, 

508
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Clayton's been driving in a 
totaled 2008 Toyota Camry in 

509
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,680
since 2010. 
It's been total since 2010. 

510
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,600
This. 
Thing still moves is insane. 

511
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840
You've been without AC for 10 
years now. 

512
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240
The entire time I've owned it, 
when I got it when I was 16, it 

513
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240
was my dad's car. 
My favorite, my favorite story. 

514
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560
They have a lot of great stories
of Clayton's Camry. 

515
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,080
Yeah. 
The best 1 though is is when he 

516
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,360
started working, he was going 
around and meeting with people 

517
00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:45,880
to tell him about the work he 
was doing. 

518
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,120
And it was, it was the Texas 
summer. 

519
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:53,200
So it's like, you know, as hot 
as hell down there 120° yeah, no

520
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680
AC. 
He would bring 3 to 4 pairs of 

521
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,840
clothes per day, and he would 
park far away before the meeting

522
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,720
just to try to. 
Cool, off to. 

523
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,480
Try to cool off and change 
polos. 

524
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,080
I thought you would show up 
early and like go to the 

525
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,880
bathroom at like a. 
Coffee shop? 

526
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720
No that just spray the boy. 
I would have like multiple 

527
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720
towels in my car and I'd put it 
down and take my shirt off and 

528
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,360
put it like a extra for sure 
that I had on. 

529
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,000
That's ridiculous. 
Wipe everything down. 

530
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,880
But yeah, actually this car is 
special to me. 

531
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,160
Well, at this point it's special
shared sweat together. 

532
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,840
When I was living in Stillwater,
OK at Oklahoma State, I was 

533
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,800
working as a missionary there. 
My, I brought my car in because 

534
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,640
it was really, you know, bumpy 
on the road. 

535
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,960
I was going, I was like, this 
does not feel safe, you know, 

536
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,720
and I needed new struts on the 
car or shocks if you will, 

537
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:41,480
struts or shocks, you know, the 
same thing. 

538
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,440
I I shocked, I'm nodding my 
head. 

539
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440
I don't know what the point. 
Well I think this is my limited 

540
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,080
understanding is that shocks 
would be more for like a larger 

541
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,960
car. 
And not a hybrid. 

542
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,880
Camry Yeah, and and the and the 
strut is basically what connects

543
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320
the the wheel to the the frame 
of the car. 

544
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,960
You know, lousy. 
It's like your suspension 

545
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080
system, you know as well. 
So it's like you need new I. 

546
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Was going to say that you need 
the struts. 

547
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:10,280
You need new struts and you 
know, it was like a $5000 bill, 

548
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,800
which this thing, I would have 
to pay someone $5000 to take 

549
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,640
this car away from me. 
I mean, it is worth, it's worth 

550
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,720
nothing. 
And but I, you know, I was at a 

551
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,400
point where I was like, I don't 
want to buy a new car. 

552
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,840
You know, we were having kids, 
we didn't have a whole lot of 

553
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,880
money. 
And so I was like, I just need 

554
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,080
to figure out how to fix this 
myself. 

555
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,360
So I started looking up all the 
parts and all the tools that I 

556
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:33,080
needed and I think I spent a 
total of like $900.00 for. 

557
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,720
A 5K fix? 
Yes. 

558
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000
That's kind of, so I got the 
different parts and it was like 

559
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920
there was other things that I 
need to do too, like different 

560
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,080
fluids and things need to be 
flashed. 

561
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,360
And so I was like, I'm just 
going to try and figure this 

562
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,200
out. 
It can't be that hard. 

563
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,920
And I found some YouTube videos 
and it took me it took me like 2

564
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,880
weeks or so because and my car 
was just jacked up on my 

565
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800
driveway the the entire time. 
You were that neighbor. 

566
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,560
Yeah, but I had friends come 
over to like kind of, you know, 

567
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560
trying to help me. 
There was an engineer that came 

568
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,280
over and kind of knew what he 
was doing, but I finally got the

569
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600
struts replaced and the first 
time driving the car to the 

570
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920
driveway was kind of scary, 
terrifying. 

571
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000
It was, it was terrifying. 
But the funniest thing was that 

572
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560
probably like a year and a half,
well, this is like 2 1/2 years 

573
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,200
later. 
I was moved out here, was living

574
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,160
in Denver, Co and my tires were 
really bad. 

575
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480
I was coming down the mountain 
and I was like slipping and 

576
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,200
sliding everywhere and I was 
like, I just got these, you 

577
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520
know, all weathered tires, you 
know, like this, what's going 

578
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,360
like what's going on here? 
And so I, I looked at my tire 

579
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,160
and I was like, oh wow, two of 
these tires are completely bald,

580
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,240
like no tread whatsoever. 
I decided to even looked at. 

581
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,040
It, you know. 
Yeah. 

582
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,360
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

583
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,040
And so I was like, oh, I need to
get get a new tire. 

584
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320
So I went in and got new tires. 
And the guy was like, hey, I 

585
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,880
think, you know, you need to get
your alignment checked. 

586
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Have you done that? 
And I was like, no, I'm. 

587
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,200
Perfectly aligned so. 
Then I brought it into another 

588
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,440
store and the guy was like, hey,
have you have you replaced any 

589
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680
parts on your car? 
And I was like Nope. 

590
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160
And definitely not the stress 
he. 

591
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,360
Was like your, your car, like 
your, your alignment was so bad 

592
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,440
that your, your tires were, you 
know, completely stripped. 

593
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,160
But because of it, essentially 
he's like, at any given moment, 

594
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,600
all four of your tires could 
have fallen off your car. 

595
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,240
And he was like, Are you sure 
you didn't replace any parts? 

596
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,400
And I was like, I do not that I 
can remember. 

597
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,000
I was too embarrassed to admit I
replaced the Shruts, but I 

598
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,040
didn't know what I was doing. 
Yeah. 

599
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600
So I didn't even think like, 
hey, I should get this. 

600
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800
Well, that that was exactly my. 
Story my biggest That's the 

601
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,920
biggest fear. 
Yeah. 

602
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Is that why? 
Why are we so scared of being 

603
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,000
found of that? 
Right, right. 

604
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Like what do you think? 
Why is that I? 

605
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,680
I mean, at the end of the day, 
part of it, I think for US 

606
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,120
married men is our wives 
probably don't have the space or

607
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,960
time to be able to go fix the 
struts. 

608
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Like they're, they have, you 
know, they're taking care of 

609
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,960
children, they may be working. 
And so we know like it's on, 

610
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,680
it's on us. 
My wife wants us to, to build a 

611
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,920
chicken coop this summer so that
we can be HOA homesteaders. 

612
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,480
But the HOA says you can only 
have 6 chickens though, which is

613
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,760
just funny because why 6? 
So no Roosters under 6 or under 

614
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,000
chickens. 
And I'm just like, she's like, I

615
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,600
need you to build a chicken coop
because I want chickens. 

616
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,160
And I'm like, I want to give 
that to her. 

617
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
I want to give her that 
experience of, of, you know, 

618
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,480
being able to have free, free 
range. 

619
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:28,440
And by free range, I mean 1/4 of
1/4 of an acre quarter lot. 

620
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,560
But I'm like, I want to, I want 
to do that for her. 

621
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,320
And I think it'd be, she'd be so
she would feel so loved if I was

622
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,840
able to do it. 
And so the reality is the fear 

623
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,960
is like, if I fail, I'm not 
failing to build a coop, I'm 

624
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,400
failing my wife, I'm failing my 
kids having to eat, you know, 

625
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,600
the Kirkland browned free range 
eggs instead of the lucido free 

626
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,320
range eggs. 
So anyways, I think that I think

627
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680
that's most of it. 
And I think for guys, you know, 

628
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,880
who are, who are afraid to jump 
in there, it's like at the end 

629
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,800
of the day, if you're not 
willing to to lose a little bit,

630
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,000
both money miles on your car 
driving to Home Depot. 

631
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
I've actually switched Ace 
Hardware because they have free 

632
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,440
popcorn. 
That fits with the HOA chicken. 

633
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,880
Just eating my Ace Hardware pop.
It's amazing. 

634
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560
So my part of my HOA also has 
10% off at the Ace Hardware. 

635
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Yeah. 
So you feel like you're, you 

636
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,360
feel like you're. 
Hey baby, you want have a moving

637
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:27,480
that? 
Yeah, I'll run over to Ace 

638
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,960
Hardware Grouse and Popcorn. 
But it's also, there's something

639
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,240
about Ace, It's a little bit 
more. 

640
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240
It's, it's less scary. 
You walk into Home Depot, it's 

641
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680
very overwhelming. 
I don't what do you mean by 

642
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840
that? 
The Ace Hardwares are smaller 

643
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360
and they're more more often in 
strip malls. 

644
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,200
It's like right now it's Papa 
Murphy's Ace Hardware always 

645
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040
right now. 
And then you got like Papa 

646
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Murphy's Ace Hardware. 
There's like Cricket Wireless 

647
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,040
and and it's right in between 
them. 

648
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480
Boost Mobile. 
And anyways, I've switched, I've

649
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,080
switched ACE because it's just 
it's not as intimidating. 

650
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,240
It's not as intimidating. 
In popcorn. 

651
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,920
Yep, can't forget the popcorn. 
That's it. 

652
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Yeah. 
I just, I feel like there's an 

653
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,440
element of do I have what it 
takes? 

654
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560
You wanna be a provider. 
And then there's these 

655
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,960
situations that you get into 
where you're kind of out of your

656
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,480
element. 
No one's ever taught you to do 

657
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,920
this. 
I mean, this, this that might 

658
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320
even go beyond just like fixing 
things, you know, just in 

659
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,360
general. 
I mean, just being married, 

660
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680
having children, you know, work,
you know, being in your, in your

661
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,880
job and trying to figure things 
out. 

662
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Just an element of like, you 
know, I've been tasked with some

663
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:42,240
responsibility and I don't know,
I don't know what to do, you 

664
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760
know. 
And I think, I mean, that's 

665
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320
something that I feel like, you 
know, I've had to grow. 

666
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,400
I still have to grow. 
And it's like this ability to 

667
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,360
allow myself to be, to be weak 
and to ask and to ask for help, 

668
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,280
you know, I mean, growing up 
well. 

669
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Even then, I'm like, I wouldn't 
necessarily say that's a weak 

670
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,200
thing. 
Well. 

671
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,240
Well, that, well, that's what I 
mean. 

672
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720
It's just like showing some sign
of. 

673
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Like part of the problem. 
For saying you're, you're weak 

674
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,840
for having to well, no, well, 
that's not, that's not what I 

675
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,520
mean. 
It's like, you know, to, to say 

676
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640
that I don't, I don't know 
everything. 

677
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,120
No, I know, I know. 
You know what I'm saying. 

678
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,320
It's not just you know that I 
would, you'd probably say that's

679
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,920
a strength, you know, being 
willing to ask for help. 

680
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
My biggest weakness is my 
biggest strength. 

681
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
I care too much about it. 
I care too much. 

682
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240
I work too hard. 
I work too hard. 

683
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,000
I'm on integrity PTO but I don't
take any days off. 

684
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Are you have you guys gone to 
birth classes? 

685
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Yes, we just finished them a 
couple of weeks ago. 

686
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,120
How were they? 
They were long. 

687
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760
It was. 
We went to this course. 

688
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,320
It was. 
Over the course, This isn't the 

689
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,720
absent Father episode. 
It was it was 4 weeks long and 

690
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,320
it was 3 1/2 hours per sitting. 
So four classes over 4 weeks, 3 

691
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,040
1/2 hours each. 
So it was just a lot. 

692
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,680
And the style of teaching, like 
wasn't too engaging. 

693
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,880
It was very helpful. 
Yeah. 

694
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Because before going to this 
birth class, I thought when my 

695
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,920
wife goes into labor, I'll go to
the hospital. 

696
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600
We'll just kind of hang out for 
a little bit and then we'll 

697
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,040
leave with a baby. 
Yeah. 

698
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Like that's all I thought there 
was to it. 

699
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240
So it was helpful, I think for 
well for both of us, but for me 

700
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120
special like there's so much 
more that I can be doing to make

701
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040
sure my. 
It's the same feeling trying to 

702
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,640
build a bookshelf. 
Yeah. 

703
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,080
As it is when the nurse leaves 
the room after the baby comes. 

704
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040
It's like I went to 42 hours of 
birth classes and they never 

705
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,960
covered holding it. 
Oh yeah. 

706
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Or swaddling it. 
Yes or what? 

707
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
No, just. 
Don't shake, don't shake, don't 

708
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,040
shake the baby well. 
When, Yeah, when it's when you 

709
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360
haven't slept. 
And I'll never forget we had 

710
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,080
Eden. 
And the nurse is there and, you 

711
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,880
know, they're with you and 
they're like, showing you, you 

712
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,520
know, changing the diaper, 
things like that. 

713
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,280
And then they leave and I was 
like, wait, wait. 

714
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Where you going? 
Where you going? 

715
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840
There's no DVDs. 
There's no manuals, DVDs. 

716
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,760
All there is is you, your wife 
and a baby. 

717
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,920
And all of a sudden you're faced
with the reality. 

718
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720
I don't know what to do. 
Yeah. 

719
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,440
I don't know how to support her.
Yeah. 

720
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,520
I don't know how to take care of
her. 

721
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880
Yeah. 
When she just went through a 

722
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,240
crazy situation. 
Now she's going to be trying to 

723
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,640
nurse the baby in the middle of 
the night. 

724
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,800
I'm. 
I'm supposed to step up and I, 

725
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,960
you know, can't even wake up at 
my alarm. 

726
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Yeah. 
Yeah, I'm supposed to be this 

727
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,360
man. 
And it's the exact same 

728
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
experience, right, that you were
talking about of do I have what 

729
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,480
it takes in this situation? 
Yeah. 

730
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,040
So I mean, what do you think the
solution is there? 

731
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800
Because we don't, we don't 
obviously know everything. 

732
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Is it just like, is it being 
willing to try new things and 

733
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
not get mad at yourself, or is 
it being willing to ask for help

734
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920
when you need help? 
Is it a combination of both, 

735
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,080
like for, you know, if you're 
talking to me or someone like me

736
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040
who gets angry when he tries to 
hang up a famous photo on the 

737
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400
wall? 
You know, like, what do I need? 

738
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Do I need to call my neighbor 
and ask him to help me hang out 

739
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
my picture? 
Do I just need to chill out a 

740
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,240
little bit? 
Hey, Jimmy. 

741
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Can you help me? 
Hey 911, I can't hang this 

742
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400
picture. 
I can't find the stud. 

743
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
I, I've been thinking about this
a little bit. 

744
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120
I don't know, to answer your 
question, I think it is a little

745
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,800
bit of both, but I also think 
there's something else to it. 

746
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Like I'm thinking I'm about to 
have my first kit, right? 

747
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,240
We're having a son and I'm 
thinking like, how can I make 

748
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800
sure he's nothing like me when 
it comes to like fixing things, 

749
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,360
right? 
And it's like, yeah, it's not 

750
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,640
like I can just take my kid 
through an 18 year course of how

751
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320
to fix absolutely everything. 
Yeah, but I definitely want to 

752
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400
at least make him a little bit 
familiar with fixing things. 

753
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,080
Yeah, with taking a little bit 
of ownership. 

754
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,400
You don't know what you're 
doing. 

755
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Well, yeah, that's why I don't 
know. 

756
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,320
And that's where like maybe I 
was going to ask y'all of how 

757
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,120
you guys are approaching this 
with your kids. 

758
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,320
I think, I think kind of all 
what, what all of us are saying.

759
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,960
It's just, it's like, it's the 
fear of messing up. 

760
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,680
It's, it's the fear of messing 
up. 

761
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,440
And so I'm like, if there's 
something that I could teach my 

762
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,880
kids, I might not be able to, 
you know, teach him how to, you 

763
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,400
know, change the struts on his 
scar. 

764
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Maybe I could, you know, I 
wouldn't. 

765
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,480
I still wouldn't be very good at
it because I've only done it one

766
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,560
time. 
But maybe what I could teach him

767
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,440
is like a mentality of like, 
it's OK to try new things. 

768
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Yeah. 
It's OK to not know what you're 

769
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,239
doing and like, you get to be 
with Dad and maybe doing it 

770
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,280
because he doesn't really know 
what he's doing either. 

771
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,719
And I'm OK with that. 
Yeah. 

772
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,600
And let's figure this out kind 
of, let's say, with your 

773
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,040
father-in-law. 
Yes, exactly. 

774
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,400
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, let's say what is it? 

775
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,360
Let's shed some light on that. 
Let's let's get some light on 

776
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:22,639
that. 
Let's. 

777
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,480
Get some light on this subject. 
Yeah, I, I think that might be 

778
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,080
the first place to start of 
like, yeah, you might not know 

779
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400
what you're doing, but you're 
just getting them familiar 

780
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,880
around these things by doing it 
together and just discovering 

781
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,600
together. 
Yeah. 

782
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,400
And in that way, you're also 
teaching them ideally, 

783
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,440
theoretically, what it looks 
like for someone to be OK with 

784
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,400
failing, with not knowing what 
they're doing right with. 

785
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,719
Hey, actually I'm a little out 
of my depth here, but let's take

786
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,280
the car to the shop. 
You know, I think it's time to 

787
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,639
take the car to. 
The shop, you say it out of my 

788
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,840
depth. 
Yeah, I like that You've heard 

789
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,560
that. 
Come up with that. 

790
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,480
It's a. 
Common saying. 

791
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360
Pretty common saying I'd say 
I've. 

792
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Never heard that. 
Have you heard that? 

793
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Yeah, I definitely have. 
Out of my depth, out of my 

794
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,760
element. 
Yeah, out of my element. 

795
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Let's shed some light on that 
that you haven't heard. 

796
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,480
That I mean, at the end of the 
day that I still want my kid to 

797
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680
know how to do stuff. 
Yeah, but it's not like I have a

798
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,000
ranking system of they need to a
first thing they're gonna learn 

799
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640
is how to make a bench, you 
know, Second thing is let. 

800
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,440
Me tell you about this bench 
we're gonna we're gonna go visit

801
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,800
this summer camp that I worked 
at my sophomore year college so 

802
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,320
I can show. 
You. 

803
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,400
So do you see that bench over 
there? 

804
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,720
Oh yeah, I know you're thinking 
I built it load bearing. 

805
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,120
That's that's our family 
heirloom that's gonna be passed 

806
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,640
down to you and you're gonna 
pass down to your son one day, 

807
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,240
Tom. 
Yeah, I think maybe that's you 

808
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,920
hit it right. 
The nail right on the head. 

809
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,920
That's exactly. 
How you do it with your kid, you

810
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560
failed together. 
You do it together, you're OK 

811
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,480
with it. 
Yeah. 

812
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,200
And they'll slowly become 
familiar with those things too. 

813
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,360
And hopefully you have a 
father-in-law on construction 

814
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,000
remodeling who can actually. 
Teach him stuff too. 

815
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120
Yeah, that's a little safety. 
Net, that's a first date. 

816
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,880
That's a first date question 
right there. 

817
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
What is your what is your dad? 
I'm. 

818
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,800
Curious. 
My dad's actually on the PGA 

819
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Tour. 
Yeah, not gonna work. 

820
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,640
He doesn't fix things, does he? 
Only my you. 

821
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Know you can come with us to 
Augusta National, watch the 

822
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,840
Masters. 
I'm sorry, cut it. 

823
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Can't do that. 
Doesn't have a pair of pliers. 

824
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,280
That's great. 
You know, my my father-in-law, 

825
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,360
every single time he comes over 
to my house, he buys me new 2 

826
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,160
like so nice, which is kind of 
it's. 

827
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,960
Amazing. 
Yeah. 

828
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Because that's my that's 
probably one of my biggest 

829
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,320
problems. 
I don't own anything. 

830
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Yeah, to help me fix. 
Something and I don't even know.

831
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,280
I got 2 hammers and an automatic
drill. 

832
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Yeah, that's it. 
Yeah. 

833
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,640
You can do a lot. 
And then actually I'm kind of 

834
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040
embarrassed. 
I have all electric lawn mowing 

835
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,600
equipment, which is just when 
you have to plug in your lawn 

836
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,240
mower to an outlet. 
You just plug it in, or like a 

837
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,640
battery, you charge it. 
There's two different ways, so 

838
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,800
you can either plug it in or you
have the Ryobi. 

839
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Like you plug it in as you. 
Push it. 

840
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Can you plug in the Ryobi 
directly? 

841
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Where? 
Wow, I got I have the one. 

842
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,920
I mean I charge the battery and 
then I put the battery in there.

843
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,640
So you can you, I have that, but
then there's also a cord based 

844
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,360
system that you can run to a 
power outlet. 

845
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Interesting. 
That's very interesting. 

846
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Free Range Free range 10 feet 
from your house. 

847
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400
That's great. 
Well, I think we'll close out 

848
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,960
there. 
Yep. 

849
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,920
Thank you guys for tuning in. 
Thank you guys for discovering 

850
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,840
how to fix things, how to build 
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851
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200
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852
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