1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Certainly sounds peaceful in theory, but in practice it can 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,040 be often confusing and even sometimes terrifying. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,880 Today we want to talk about control, expectations, and what 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,640 actually happens when you stop gripping outcome so tightly and 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,600 let go and let gone. Let Jesus take the wheel. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 There you will. This is the All In podcast, and 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,680 today we're going to talk about surrender. 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,040 All right, when I say surrender, what's the first thing that 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,320 comes to your mind? I surrender. 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,880 See, for me, and maybe it's because my wife and I were 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,040 listening to Hamilton recently, it's a battle of Yorktown when 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,720 the British surrender the. American Forces World War 2. 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Surrender hardly know her. Joe, Michael, one way. 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,400 What's the first thing that comes up? 15 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:17,600 What do you think of surrender? Honestly, probably just when I 16 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,800 when I wrestle my boys and I put in my headlock and they start 17 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,040 screaming and. Surrendered. 18 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,080 They start tapping. And then I just kind of squeeze 19 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,640 in even harder, you know that? Or have you ever? 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Did you guys ever read Diary of a Wimpy Kid? 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,720 No, I was a big Captain Underpants, which is like, I 22 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 think the same. The same brand of kind of 23 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,200 comedic. It's the same. 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,280 Middle school boy humor. The covers of the books look the 25 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,120 same. That's not as much as I know. 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Hey, how are your aunt books going these days? 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,280 My aunt books are going great. I started a book recently on 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Audible and I think the most crucial part of this that you 29 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,280 guys seem to forget about was that it was three books in for 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,160 one credit, which is why I decided to take a chance. 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Three in one. Yeah, OK, Called Chrysalis. 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,000 I'm a little bit into the first one. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,080 It's a little weird. Would you rather buy three Ant 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,520 books with one credit or one good book with one credit? 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,080 OK, define good book, because I don't think you've read a good 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,120 book in your life. Clean. 37 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,480 All right. Take that, take that Clayton 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 nerd. If you're wondering what that 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,160 was about, Clay and I go back and forth because I, I love to 40 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,120 read. We both like to read. 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,800 I would say a lot. I don't think I've ever I, I 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,760 don't in the last two years I've read maybe 60-70 books and 43 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,320 they've all, not a single one of them has taken place in this 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:58,000 reality or have anything to do the things that actually that 45 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,960 was. One of your best lines. 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Not a single one of them has. Taken place in this reality. 47 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,680 I think the closest I've gotten to like nonfiction has been you 48 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,280 ever heard of the terminalist? It's like about AC, not CIA Navy 49 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,040 SEAL that like goes rogue and like taking that conspiracies 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,280 there. There's no. 51 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,240 It comes a serial. Killer. 52 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,080 There's no. Yes. 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,240 It you're only serial. Terminalist is a list of people 54 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,480 that he's killing. OK, but are you serial killer if 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:30,760 you're pursuing justice? Doesn't every murderer think 56 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,080 they're doing something just. I don't know, have you, have you 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,760 read the book or watch the series? 58 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,440 I read, I read like one of the books. 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,640 It was very violent. It is very. 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,520 I think he recommended it to me, yeah. 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 It's really, it's really good, it's violent, it's written by 62 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Navy SEAL, so he knows a lot of what he's talking about. 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,360 But at the spoilers at the end of the book, I think people 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,400 realize that he was one of the good guys because he was taking 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,080 down people that were causing a lot of evil in the world. 66 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,280 So. I would say it's a book more 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,080 about vengeance than justice. Sometimes they can go 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 intertwined, but yeah I would agree with all that to say. 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,400 That's the closest non fiction I've ever got. 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,640 Closest. Where's that? 71 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,480 A Navy SEAL is over here reading about the power of silence. 72 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Oh man. I love that movie. 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,760 So that that that's why we go back and forth about the books 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,480 that we read. So yeah, I am reading a book 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,200 right now about a guy that dies and wakes up in the body of an 76 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Ant. We'll see where it goes. 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,640 I don't know if I'll make it through the whole audio. 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,600 Marvel movie. Is it Ant man quant mania 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,200 anyways? Where are we right now? 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Surrender. I think when I think of 81 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 surrender, honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is 82 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,280 giving up. You know, yeah. 83 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,720 And, and I think it's kind of funny because that I, I feel 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,080 like maybe I don't know if it's a secular versus a Catholic 85 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,440 thing or what it might be, but it's like when I, the first 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,880 thing comes to mind when I think surrender, I think is giving up. 87 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,280 But when I practice surrender, I never think I'm giving up. 88 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:13,920 Does that make sense to you? Yeah. 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,400 So walk me through that. Yeah, I, I think, well, I mean, 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,840 we just named a lot of things that we think of when we think 91 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,120 of the word surrender. But in my life when I think of 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,680 surrendering things to God, I'm not giving up by any means. 93 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,000 I'm simply saying like, Lord, I trust you in this. 94 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Now there's, there's a lot there, you know, and I could 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,560 process that for a while, but I think at least that's like the 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,640 base of my thought process. When I'm saying things to God, 97 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,320 I'm not saying I give up on this. 98 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,920 I'm saying, Lord, I, I trust you and I and I need you here. 99 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Whenever I'm struggling through something in the moment and I 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,440 make a prayer saying like, Lord, I surrender this to you. 101 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Whether it's lust, whether it's whatever else you know, it's not 102 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,200 saying Lord, I give up or Lord fix it for me. 103 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,360 It's saying like, Lord, I trust you in this and I need you right 104 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,960 now. It's more of a a surrendering of 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,840 the outcome than a surrendering of your of the process. 106 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,400 You're like willing. Well, I don't know what would 107 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,320 you say? You get what I'm saying? 108 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Do any of your books have anything to say about this? 109 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,520 Yeah, I guess I, what I'm hearing you say is that in a, in 110 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,040 a more, I guess, you know, secular way, you would think of 111 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 surrender. As you know, you surrender in a 112 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,200 battle, you lay down your guns, you give up, you lost, game over 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,960 forfeit, you forfeited. You know, you know, you're 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,840 you're losing something. Where is what we're. 115 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:47,240 I think what we're saying is that there's a type of surrender 116 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,920 that you know, you can still pursue the end and pursue the 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,960 goal, but you're, you're more surrendered to what the, what 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,040 the outcome is and trusting that you know any, that any outcome 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,840 is going to be within the will of God. 120 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Right, Yeah. I mean, I think you mentioned 121 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,320 the word control. I think control and surrender 122 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,480 have to be used to to help us distinguish what true surrender 123 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,000 is. Because I think in the in the 124 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Catholic sense, in the Christian sense, in the in the Catholic 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,600 worldview, surrender is, is about lack of control and giving 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,760 up of control. And I think that is why for us, 127 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,280 it feels like, as you mentioned, Jose taking an L because for us 128 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,240 as men, when we say, I'm letting go of control, we feel exposed, 129 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,320 we feel quite vulnerable. And when we feel vulnerable, we 130 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,880 feel like we're losing because we no longer have control of our 131 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,720 ability to win in that activity or in that circumstance. 132 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,080 And I, I think the lie is that surrender is giving up and that 133 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,000 letting go is, is lowering the standards, lowering the quality 134 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,240 of life, especially for dudes, you know, who are, who are kind 135 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,360 of hard wired to be active and to fix and to gain and to 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,640 accomplish and push forward. How do you guys think you you 137 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,320 learned that lesson in a way? There was maybe a more pointed 138 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:21,160 question is, was there a time in your life where you really tried 139 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 very hard to control something that still didn't go the way 140 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,200 that you planned, and how did it go? 141 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Junior year of high school, you weren't surrendering. 142 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Anything in high school? Surrendered to the fact that you 143 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,680 didn't make the basketball team. Junior year of high school. 144 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,280 The pins coming out get ready. The pin is out. 145 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Let. Me tell you let me tell you 146 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 about the greatest zone 2 cardio sport that exists on this 147 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,360 planet, which is golf and I was playing around a golf with my 148 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:04,080 dad as a practice round and the on the on the front 9 I shot. 149 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,440 You said practice round, You mean like it wasn't tournament 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,240 or like you were? Was it a? 151 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,440 Warm up for a tournament. Yeah, it was like I was going to 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,120 play this course within the next week or so. 153 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,480 So it was a practice round. But anyways, on the on on the on 154 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,920 the back 9, I had three birdies in a row, OK. 155 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,320 I had put three wedge shots within like 2 feet of the hole, 156 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,960 just like tap in birdies. And all of a sudden I looked up 157 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,120 and I was it was a, it was a par 70 course. 158 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,640 All of a sudden I looked up, I've got four holes to go and 159 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,480 I'm three under par. And let me tell you, I've never 160 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,960 I've, I've, I am not that good at golf these days. 161 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,560 I'm I'm a. Probably. 162 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:43,840 What's your handicap at now? Didn't. 163 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,960 You shoot APR recently. I did. 164 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,400 I shot a 73 a couple months ago, which was the best round since 165 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,680 the one I'm telling you about right now. 166 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,240 And all of a sudden I looked up and you know when you're when 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,760 you're playing a really great round of golf. 168 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,240 I wouldn't know anything. Like what we know about. 169 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Yeah, you get into this kind of like free flow state and, you 170 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,440 know, you're not really, you're not keeping track of your score 171 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,320 normally. You start getting in your head 172 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,440 and you're like, OK, you know, I, I, I, I double bug you that 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,920 hole. And so if I want to shoot this 174 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,440 score at the end of it, and that means I need to do this on the 175 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,400 next hole. And you start trying to control 176 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,320 the outcome with with every single shot. 177 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,720 When you're playing a really great round of golf, Tiger Woods 178 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 is known as this where he finishes hole 18. 179 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,160 He doesn't even know he's done. It was caddy has to like stop 180 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,880 him from trying to walk to the next hole. 181 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,680 He did. It's just he's so in the zone on 182 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:35,800 every single shot that he's kind of unaware of of where he is. 183 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,840 And I remember it was all of a sudden I, I had three birdies in 184 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,880 the round. I hadn't even thought about my 185 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,000 score up until that point. And I looked, I was like, I 186 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,960 wonder what I'm at right now. And I start looking. 187 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,720 I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm three under par with four holes to go. 188 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,840 I'm about to shoot the greatest round of my life right now and I 189 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 finished bogey, bogey, double bogey, bogey. 190 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,800 And I remember a bogey 15-A, bogey 16. 191 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,520 I still remember hole 17. It was a 280 yard par 4, bunker 192 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,640 on the left, bunker on the right. 193 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,160 And I was like, OK, well, I just want bogey, bogey. 194 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,600 So I need to do something crazy here. 195 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,400 I'm going to take out my my driver and go for the green. 196 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,960 I ended up, you know, slicing it a little bit to where I was in 197 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,960 the far right side of the right green side bunker plugged, which 198 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,080 is when your your ball is kind of buried in the sand, which is 199 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 the worst possible outcome because now I have a 30 yard 200 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:28,640 bunker shot. Anyways, there's a lot of 201 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,360 details going on here, but you know, I finished that round of 202 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,760 shot a 71, which was my greatest round I've ever shot. 203 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,040 But I was 4 over in the last three holes after after playing 204 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,200 really well. And I think back to that moment 205 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,520 a lot. And honestly, golf is a really 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,640 great example of kind of what it means to surrender because you, 207 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:47,320 you start taking these, you know, every single hole is 208 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,280 another step and every single step that you take, you start 209 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,720 thinking about, you know, what have I done? 210 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,120 What do I need to correct? You know, and you start getting 211 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,600 into, start getting into your head and you start gripping 212 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 really tight on the golf clubs and trying to trying to control 213 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,560 the outcome at the end of the round. 214 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:05,240 And the only thing that you can do, you can't control the lie 215 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,760 that you have. You can't, you can't control the 216 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,360 wind, you can't control the bounce. 217 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 The only thing that you can do is execute on on each shot. 218 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,880 And so that's that's, that's a sporting example, I guess of you 219 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,080 know what my experience, I think on the golf course of what 220 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,560 surrender is what? Was your question I think for 221 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:29,520 the first. I think for the first time golf 222 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,440 actually seems attractive to me now after that explanation. 223 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,040 This story told remind me of two things. 224 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,400 One of them is quick is you called me a couple months ago 225 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,320 and you said I just shot my new PR. 226 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,640 What was it 737373 and I was like 2. 227 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,640 That's awesome. How'd it go like? 228 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,480 Well, it was a scramble it. Was not a scramble. 229 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Good. Thing you remind me of is our 230 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,480 buddy Jorge. Yeah. 231 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,600 I don't know this story of what actually happened, but his his 232 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,360 dad just knows he is the choker from golf. 233 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,960 You're kidding. No, yeah. 234 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,080 Does he call you that? Well, yeah, he does. 235 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,920 It's like it's like in. It's fun. 236 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,440 It's fun. It's like endearing everything. 237 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,680 But I just remember because I I think in the golf, the post 238 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,240 college, I didn't really know what any of this meant. 239 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,480 Think about it now I'm like, yeah, this makes sense. 240 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Like I don't even know if I have if I'll ever be good enough to 241 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,360 choke something away like that. But for a while, Jorge's dad, 242 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,760 when you talk about Clayton, he'd be like, you know the guy. 243 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,360 He's. Like, oh. 244 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,680 What happened? Well, you guys in A2 band? 245 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,960 Jorge is better. He's a better golfer than me. 246 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,560 And you know, there, there's a lot of people are better golfers 247 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,120 than me. But you know, it's one of those 248 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,880 things where it's just like basketball for me. 249 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,560 I either have it or I don't, you know, I'm streaky. 250 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,680 And so there's one particular round where I was playing with 251 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:59,400 Jorge and a few other friends of ours and I was, I was playing 252 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,400 lights out where I could have shot another, you know, 73 or 72 253 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,840 or something like that. And I ended up, you know, on the 254 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,240 last three or four holes or so like going 6 over and losing the 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,080 Jorge by by one shot. And that's sadly happened a few 256 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,440 times. Is the legendary golf trip the 257 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,960 annual legendary golf trip that I've never been invited to? 258 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Is that happening soon? Is that happening again this 259 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,760 year? Is it putting on pause? 260 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,560 Where you all going this year? Well, so there's 2G trips now. 261 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Oh yeah, yeah. No. 262 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Is there a split or? Is it mutiny more of justice? 263 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,160 There's the the nice golf trip that Clayton and I are not 264 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,640 invited to. Well, I went on invited once. 265 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Well, I was, I went last year. I've been invited every year. 266 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Sorry, I was saying well. No, no. 267 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,320 Just to clarify. I was told that you could be 268 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200 invited, but you might want to start saving now and get a 269 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,920 little better golf. Wow, Geez. 270 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Well, the problem with The thing is, is that they play a lot of 271 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,720 really nice golf courses and, you know, they have this whole 272 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,360 PowerPoint presentation of where they're going to stay and, you 273 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,000 know, playing golf and it's like it's an extremely expensive trip 274 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,680 to go on and it's like, I can't do that, you know. 275 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,240 And so there was, you know, the, the live tour rose up here and, 276 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,480 and we and we or, you know, the European Tour nationwide TP 277 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,120 world tour, TP world tour, and we started a a cheaper golf 278 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,040 trip. Oh, that's great. 279 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,840 The Budget Cup is what it's. Called. 280 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Oh, that's. Brilliant You you no course we 281 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 play will will cost more than $40. 282 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,880 Yeah. And is it close to people? 283 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,760 So it's, it's not like we're all flying somewhere. 284 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,960 It's like. Well, the, the, the first one, 285 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,480 the initial 1 is going to be in Baton Rouge where a lot of 286 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,240 people live. So some people are going to have 287 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,320 to fly in, but most people. 10-15 guys. 288 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 I don't know, let's. See, I think, I think, you know, 289 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,840 we originally started somewhere around like 20 dudes. 290 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Yeah. And then some people are are 291 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,480 probably not going to. Be if you all make merch I would 292 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,160 absolutely buy a budget cut back like I would. 293 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Absolutely. This other golf trip got 294 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 sponsored by Mizzen in Maine. So you can see, you know, 295 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 there's, there's one world of golf. 296 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Trips the the mizzen in Maine and then you got the echo. 297 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Unlimited risk. Sponsored by Reebok. 298 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,720 I don't, I don't even think they would seek to our level. 299 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,240 What are we talking about? We're talking about. 300 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,000 Surrender. You guys surrendered to the 301 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,680 bigger the bigger golf tournament. 302 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,400 And why? When did we learn that lesson of 303 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,240 like, Surrender doesn't mean losing? 304 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,840 I'm wondering if, yeah, just the the crazy part about surrender 305 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,480 is that typically the reason you have to surrender is because 306 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,160 outside circumstances have happened to you that you can't 307 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,520 control. Like if you if you could have 308 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,160 controlled them, you would have. But I'm just thinking about, we 309 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:05,240 have, we have a great friend who just had an frankly miraculous 310 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,880 cancer surgery and he was diagnosed with cancer. 311 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,359 They, they thought the tumor had been in there for about 10 312 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,839 years, which is just wild that you could live with, with cancer 313 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:17,359 for 10 years and have no idea. And, and, and you know, we've 314 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,960 gotten to watch him take that news on. 315 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,599 He's the father of a large family and that the burden that 316 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:25,760 that is. And you're just like, that's a 317 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,880 moment you have to surrender because you have outside 318 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,320 circumstances that are weighing down on you. 319 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,600 And so a prerequisite to surrender is you can't control 320 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,880 what just happened to you. Because frankly, if, if you, if 321 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,520 you could have controlled it, you probably wouldn't have been 322 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,200 in a space where you needed to surrender. 323 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,760 And so I just think in, in, you know, in my life, there's been 324 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,640 so many moments of that. I think there's, there's the 325 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,480 natural moments of fatherhood, but I also just think there's 326 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,080 the natural moments of, of even as a child, you know, I've 327 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,440 talked before about how my brother was, was severely 328 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,160 disabled and has been in a wheelchair his entire life and 329 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,720 non verbal and, and basically in a kind of vegetative coma like 330 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,280 state. And I remember as a kid I was, I 331 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,320 was really upset by that frequently. 332 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,840 The, the thing I was upset the most with, as as trivial as it 333 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 sounds, was that we could never go out to dinner as a family 334 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,040 because my brother's wheelchair was difficult to navigate 335 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,000 through the restaurant. And then he doesn't do well in, 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,040 in large groups of people in loud spaces. 337 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,680 I just remember being so mad. Like, why can't we go to L 338 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,360 Phoenix like everybody else? Like, why can't we just go to 339 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,240 Outback Steakhouse like all my buddies and get the, get the 340 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,840 blooming onion. And, and as I got older, the 341 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,200 frustration turned into an acceptance of my reality. 342 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,360 And if you, if you had to, to define surrender, maybe that 343 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,680 would be a way that we could do it for people is that surrender 344 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,560 is a acceptance of, you know what? 345 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Here I am, here's what's happening to me. 346 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,320 I, I accept. I'm willing to accept it. 347 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,600 It's going to happen to me regardless. 348 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:08,680 And so I can either surrender to that reality and receive it or I 349 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,400 can continue to fight back against it. 350 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,080 You know, I, I think of surrender is like, you ever do 351 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,520 those little Chinese paper traps when you're a kid. 352 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,160 Yeah. Put two fingers. 353 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,360 In. Yeah, Chinese handcuffs, put 354 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,080 your fingers in if you, if you try to, if you try, I'm stuck. 355 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,160 I'm stuck. You can't get them out. 356 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 But when you relax your fingers that you're able to, to pull it 357 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,320 out just fine. And I think that's where we sit 358 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,080 a lot of times with God is that, you know, we're, we're fighting 359 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,160 back. We're fighting back, we're 360 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,440 fighting back. And then the moment that we take 361 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,680 a second to just say, OK, I'm, I'm, I'm done. 362 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,000 I surrender, I'm dropping the rope, I'm with you. 363 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,280 That those are the moments where all of a sudden you just feel so 364 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,360 much better about what's happening to you. 365 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:50,800 Yeah. I, I, I agree with everything 366 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:57,480 you said, but I would add that yes, like when they're external 367 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,160 things that are outside of our control, that's probably when 368 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,080 it's maybe easiest or when it's in the forefront of our mind 369 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,480 that the need to surrender, but it's not the only time to 370 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,360 surrender, right? Give me some others. 371 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,120 Like, I mean, I'm thinking right now like as my wife and I are 372 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,560 planning like the next couple years for a family of like 373 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,920 there, there's nothing external that's like controlling that we 374 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,400 don't have control over. We we do have control over a lot 375 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,640 of the things going on in our family, but we're still 376 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,160 surrendering that to God. So just say like you closed. 377 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,160 I think perfectly of like it's saying, Lord, I want you to be 378 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,200 in control over me. I understand that I still have a 379 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,280 role to play in this. I'm not going to like check out 380 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,200 by any means, right. And it's kind of a couple of 381 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,760 since ago I quoted St. Augustine of right love God and 382 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,840 do what you will. But the second part of that 383 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,760 quote of for the soul trained in love to God will do nothing to 384 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,800 offend the one who is beloved. So it's kind of the same thing 385 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,360 of like, Lord, I know that I have a role to play in this. 386 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,360 Like there's still things that I have to control over. 387 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:08,480 I'm surrendering to you the overall outcome and I'm not 388 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,800 checking out because again, like I'm still praying. 389 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,200 I'm still like wanting to be in community with God. 390 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,960 I'm still my my soul is in training and hopefully trained 391 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,960 to love God with everything. So I know that that's what that 392 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,720 means, right? I think it can be dangerous for 393 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,040 someone. Maybe that's still new to this 394 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680 idea of surrender, that OK, well, if I'm surrendering to 395 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,400 God, the outcome of my family, it means that I no longer care. 396 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,280 You know what I mean? Or I'm not willing to. 397 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Work to enter into or work hard, yeah. 398 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 It makes me sorry. We're going to keep going. 399 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,360 No, it it just again, you know, he keeps coming back up and back 400 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,840 up. But Nick Saban, I can't help but 401 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:52,280 think of him, you know, and that that visual of the the what do 402 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,480 you call them? Chinese handcuffs? 403 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Is that what they're called? You know, it makes I don't know 404 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,960 if. That's what they're actually 405 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,400 called Chinese. Finger traps. 406 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,440 I that's what I called them. And then Jose said handcuffs. 407 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,440 Yeah, I don't know. But it gives you that image kind 408 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,400 of gives me the sense of like, OK, you just got it like, like, 409 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 relax. And if you just like relax, you 410 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,040 know that, then that's surrender. 411 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:14,040 And that's that's totally true. But at the same time, I'm 412 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,960 thinking about Nick Saban's pregame speech before they play 413 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Georgia in the national championship. 414 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,960 And it's an incredible, you know, one minute long video. 415 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:27,000 But you know, one of the things that he talks about in there is 416 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,320 just, you know, do your job in the discipline to execute. 417 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,880 You know, he's all about process, process over outcomes. 418 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,840 You know, he talks about, you know, Alabama, you know, Alabama 419 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,880 football team playing with such like a violent energy almost, 420 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,800 you know, and you know, Nick Saban, would you I don't know if 421 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,960 you'd like. He's not someone that you'd say 422 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,880 that's a surrendered guy right there because he he wants to win 423 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,000 so bad, but he is also so committed to the process that 424 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,120 that's that is the most important thing. 425 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,840 I think what we're saying here is like, it's OK to want to win 426 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,320 really bad. It is OK to want to win really 427 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,720 bad, you know, but are you more attached to the outcome than you 428 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,880 are the disciplined ex? Yeah, you know, and, and the 429 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,760 process and the and the and the change that happens over time, 430 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040 you know, rather than just the outcome that you want. 431 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,640 Yeah, that's, it's so nuanced because what we're not saying is 432 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,120 that we want men to just look out for a participation trophy 433 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,560 in life, right? But we also don't want them to 434 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320 be, to have their destination as, as winning. 435 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,600 And what's crazy about Saban is like his destination was 436 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,640 winning, but he motivated through the process to get 437 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,040 there. I'm, I'm thinking back, you 438 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,520 know, I actually just wrote a LinkedIn post about this, about 439 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,120 Nick, Nick Saban's book. You're not allowed to shout out 440 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,840 your own. LinkedIn it's it's. 441 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,680 My personal brand, but I wrote about I wrote about the book 442 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,200 that you recommended, The Leadership Secrets of Nix did. 443 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,560 You shout me out in the post. I did. 444 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,880 OK, great. All right, we're good. 445 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Continue. I tagged Clay Caldwell and then 446 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,840 I did not tag Jose, but but my favorite part of the book is 447 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,000 when they're talking about when they lost to Louisiana Monroe in 448 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,200 his first first season or something like that. 449 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,040 I don't know. If it was the first. 450 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Game. It was one of his first, yeah. 451 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,720 It was his first season, 07. And and how he committed to 452 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,120 himself. We will never take a cupcake 453 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,120 opponent. Lightly. 454 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Lightly ever again. And so he there's all these 455 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,800 scenes of him beating Sanford University, a small Baptist 456 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,480 school, 56 to 0 and in the fourth quarter he's chewing out 457 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,920 his first team lineman or they're blowing out Savannah 458 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,080 State 73 to 2 and he's chewing out his quarterback for taking a 459 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,960 three-step drop instead of a five step drop. 460 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,320 And so the, the connection there is to be obsessed with the 461 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,880 process, so that when you're obsessed with the process that 462 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,640 the outcome comes naturally. And that's what he was creating 463 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,760 his players. And, and I think that's what 464 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,760 what we can create when we surrender to the outcome, but we 465 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,160 still become obsessed with the process as well. 466 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,080 So that it's not a passive act to surrender, but it's actually 467 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,240 one that takes action. Man, maybe it's about time I I 468 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,880 give a nonfiction. I don't know. 469 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Well, The thing is is. There's no magic in it. 470 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,200 No. You love. 471 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,360 You love. Good stories, Jose. 472 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Yeah, I do love. A good story and you know, and 473 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,760 you get there's so many great non fiction, amazing stories. 474 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,800 You're right. No, you're right. 475 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,760 And, and Nick Saban is a great story, maybe a little track. 476 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 There's no, there's no magic. There's no space exploration. 477 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,000 You know. OK, I I want to talk a little 478 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,360 about the practicality of surrender. 479 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,080 What does it actually look like for you guys to practically 480 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,920 surrender things? Not not counting my score on the 481 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,080 golf course. I write the down things I 482 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400 struggle with on a piece of paper and put them in the fire. 483 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,280 I do that all the time. Everyday. 484 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Multiple times a day before, before and after every meal. 485 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:25,280 I think it's as simple as I guess just one of the thoughts 486 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,120 that that came into my mind was like a repetitive prayer that 487 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,840 you can say to yourself. I mean, the surrender novena is 488 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,480 really popular and, and amazing Novena where you know, it's OK 489 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:45,240 to not feel the thing that you want to will, I guess, if that 490 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040 makes sense. You know, like, like for 491 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600 instance, I want to, I want to be able to surrender and I'm 492 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,240 really attached to the outcome and I'm going to go to prayer 493 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,960 and I'm going to say to God, God, I surrender this. 494 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,280 But I don't feel that in my heart. 495 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,840 You know what I mean? And nothing changes. 496 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Yeah, like. Nothing changes, but as long I 497 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,360 can go to God and say God, I I want to want to surrender, but I 498 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,200 don't really want it right now, you know. 499 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,960 And so one of my first thoughts was just, yeah, is there, is 500 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520 there, is there, you know, a short is the surrender Novena, 501 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,200 something that you want to make a part of your life or just a 502 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,720 short, you know, Psalm or word from Scripture that you can 503 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720 repeat to yourself. Or maybe, you know, you don't 504 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 believe it right now and you don't want to believe it, but 505 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 you want to want to believe it, you know? 506 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Yeah. I because I'm thinking of like 507 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,880 so much what you're saying of. It's not just that I don't even 508 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,240 want to. I get frustrated when I 509 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,160 surrender things and then nothing changes, right? 510 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,440 It took a lot for me to be get to the point where I'm like, 511 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Lord, I surrender this to you, right? 512 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,080 And then I'm like, well, why are you not? 513 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,920 Why is magic Jesus not coming out? 514 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,840 I'm like fixing things for me, you know, but I think, and I 515 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,040 don't know if this is kind of what you're saying to one of the 516 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 greatest things that came about for me practicing surrender. 517 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,320 And it came slowly at 1st and over time, I got better at 518 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,800 surrendering things over and over again. 519 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,400 It just created this habit of like, well, now I'm just always 520 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920 like, I made a thing every morning and every night before 521 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 bed, I would just say like, Lord, I surrender the things of 522 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,240 this day or the things that have happened. 523 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,960 And usually I try to go specifics to you. 524 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,600 And it's created this habit of I'm constantly thinking about 525 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,640 who's in control of things. Again, it doesn't, it still 526 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,960 doesn't change anything just by having that thought, but it does 527 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,560 help me center myself a little bit because now I'm constantly 528 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,320 thinking of like, oh, I need to turn this to God. 529 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800 I need to turn this to God. And again, it doesn't change the 530 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,880 outcome, doesn't mean that I'm no longer going to be trying. 531 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,200 Doesn't mean that I'm not going to put any effort. 532 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,960 But it has helped me to just consider myself in, in, in the 533 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,680 right place, which is as a subject under God's will, right? 534 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,600 And not trying to take everything that I could do. 535 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,920 Does that make sense? That kind of what you're saying 536 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,400 too, of like just the habit that it breeds of being able to 537 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,840 detach a little bit and attach myself to God a little more. 538 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 I've, I've been through different seasons of this in my 539 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,840 life. I'm, I'm not doing it currently, 540 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600 although it would, it would maybe this is, would be a good 541 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320 impetus to get back on it. But I know when we were in 542 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,720 college, Clayton, we would frequently end our nights 543 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440 together with the smoke. And then we would put, we would 544 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,280 pray night prayer together and, and for those who who may not be 545 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,440 Catholic or may not be familiar at night prayers, basically just 546 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600 a way to end the day with, with kind of certain wrote prayers 547 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,560 that you read through sometimes in a group. 548 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,880 You can do it individually and any kind of goes through like 4 549 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,720 movements of the prayer. So the first is, is to just look 550 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080 back at the day, what we call an examination. 551 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000 The second is the act of contrition where you're saying, 552 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,840 hey, God, I'm sorry, messed up today. 553 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,080 I've reflected on what I've done. 554 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400 I messed up in these ways. I'd like for the grace to do it 555 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,120 better tomorrow. And then you read what's called 556 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,760 the Canticle of Simeon, which is just a a certain part of the 557 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,560 Bible that you read together. And in night prayer you always 558 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 say, Lord, now let your servant go in peace. 559 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Your word has been fulfilled. My own eyes have seen the 560 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,880 salvation which you have prepared in the sight of every 561 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,360 people. And I think what what the reason 562 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760 you do that every night is. It's a moment of surrender, 563 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920 right? Jesus, your word to me has been 564 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120 fulfilled. Today I give it all to you. 565 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,680 I'm going to depart, I'm going to go in peace. 566 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,640 I can't do anymore. And and so I just entrusted to. 567 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,680 And so a practicality of surrender for people could be 568 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,840 maybe you involve some night prayer in your day to take the 569 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400 opportunity to practice surrendering the little things 570 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,880 so that in the moments of surrendering large things in 571 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000 your life that that muscle has been worked out appropriately. 572 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240 So it's ready to go when it's placed under tension of your 573 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400 life. Yeah, now I would add too for 574 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 for our listeners to that maybe just getting into this idea of 575 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,640 surrender or maybe want to get back into it of don't get 576 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,960 discouraged just because he surrender something and it 577 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,920 doesn't go away. Right. 578 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,200 When it comes to these big things too, whether it's 579 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,760 anxiety, whether it's you know something you struggle with, 580 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,640 whether whatever it may be, don't get discouraged when you 581 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,240 when even if you surrender often, like multiple times a 582 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,400 day, and it still doesn't go away because that again, that's 583 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,640 not the point. The point is to continue to 584 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,520 connect with God, right? And to allow God to have control 585 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,440 of your life. So just to summarize, surrender 586 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800 is not the absence of effort, right? 587 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,640 Surrender doesn't mean taking an L Surrender doesn't mean choking 588 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,560 at golf. It's a decision to stop letting 589 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200 the outcomes, determining our inner peace, right? 590 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,400 The decision to stop letting, it's a decision to allow God to 591 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440 be in control instead of ourselves. 592 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,400 So if this episode met you where you are at, right? 593 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,520 If this episode spoke to you in some way, if you want to jump on 594 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,360 the surrender train, share it with someone that you care 595 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,240 about. Share it. 596 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,760 Share with someone that you know is carrying something that can 597 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,120 be heavy and they might need some help or simply to share 598 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 with a friend whether they need to surrender better or not. 599 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,880 So make sure you're following us. 600 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,880 Make sure you subscribe to us. Make sure you surrender with us. 601 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,040 This is the All In podcast and we'll see you next week.