1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,360 Hi lesbians, how are we all this week? 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,080 We hope that if you're in the UK, you've suffered the 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,720 absolutely immense freeze that has been happening that has 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,200 quite nearly killed me off. I've been miserable as fuck in 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,320 this mother because it's just been like, you know, when you 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,360 can't focus on anything else, you're like, no, I'm just cold. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Yeah. And I even bought myself these, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,520 like heat tech jumpers, heat tech socks. 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,280 You know it's bad if I'm investing and shit. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,160 Like that and also like we've just been discussing with 11 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:43,000 everyone so much that once Christmas is over the winter can 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,560 just fuck the fuck off. It can fuck off like it 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,160 shouldn't exist anyway. I mean we have said multiple 14 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,520 times we are living in the wrong country. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Because to anyone listening to this podcast who's like, I love 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,480 seasons go away, go away. Pathetic. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,720 Spring summer is the only seasons that any of us need. 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,840 I don't give a shit about the colours of autumn. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Maybe. Like a week of autumn, just so 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,560 that you can appreciate again going back into snow, OK? 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,080 I don't care about the colours of autumn, I don't care about 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,640 the leaves falling, I don't care about your pumpkin spiced 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,720 fucking coffee. Yeah, get the fuck away from me 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,680 and give me a pina colada on the beach. 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,240 It's a. Red flag when people say it. 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,360 They love winter. I'm like, no. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,560 You don't see if I dated someone who was like, winter's my 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,640 favourite season out because we're not compatible. 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,200 Is it a wrong time for me to tell you that I love winter? 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,720 I know you don't know, so it's. Bio We were saying as well that 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,840 before Christmas you've got all the lights and everything else, 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,520 so like. It's really not more bearable. 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,920 And also like we have the association of like winter to 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,400 like Father Christmas, Santa. Do you know what I mean? 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Like. Yeah, but also why don't they 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,800 just keep the lights up until the light March? 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Because I think that's also quite depressing once Christmas 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,600 is over. No, because I think that like 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,600 the lights made it a bit more like colourful. 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,560 And you can, you can, you know, like now. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Now when I walk down the road, it's just dark. 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,880 I don't know. Anyway, it's January and we're 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,840 depressed and on top of that, I my migraines have been 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,480 absolutely horrific again. And I want to shout out to 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,200 anyone on this podcast actually who may or may not suffer with 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,680 severe migraines. I suffer specifically with a 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,280 migraine called hemoplegic migraines and or absent seizure 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,240 type. Things. 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Because this has been an ongoing issue for me now for years, 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,280 where I go through these periods of like every day, like two or 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,040 three times a day where I will be walking down the street and I 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,720 suddenly feel like I'm going to pass out. 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,440 And it basically feels like Deja vu times 1000. 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,800 So I suddenly feel like I see kind of like flashing images 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 almost in a dream, but I can't conceptualise what they are. 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,200 My hearing goes, my eyesight goes, I feel really sick because 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 I get really hot, feel like I'm going to pass out. 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,520 It lasts for about 30 seconds to a minute and then it's over and 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,400 then for about 10-15 minutes after I feel really weird, 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,720 dissociated and then I'm fine. That's so weird. 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,280 It's so weird and I know for a fact that it's not panic 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,280 attacks. It is not panic attacks because 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 I've had panic attacks and this is not it. 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Also like. But I don't know what it is. 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,520 I don't. Panic attack Queen. 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Like I would know if that was panic. 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Attack and I don't want to jump the gun and be like oh it's it 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,320 is seizures or anything like that because it may well not be. 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,360 I've just inclined to know if anyone else has ever had this 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,400 and if they've ever got a diagnosis from it. 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,720 I'm going to a neurologist this Thursday hoping for some 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,400 answers. But if you live in the UK, the 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,320 NHS is an incredible thing. But bless it is struggling and 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,840 it's on its knees and I don't have a whole lot of hope that 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 I'm going to get any answers. So I'm calling out to you 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,480 lesbians. That on top of us all being 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,160 psychologically damaged, existing with the world on our 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 shoulders. Can anyone else help me in a 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,240 medical field? Talk about being psychologically 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,240 damaged. 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And it is so easy to get caught 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,840 up in the day today and be like, Oh, well, I'll do that next 127 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,200 month. I'll do that next month. 128 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,440 But now this has kind of found its way to us and. 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,960 We've found our was like you need help? 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Look at you. Yeah, let me just give you this. 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,080 And I started going through the process today, which we're, and 132 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,240 so by the next episode we'll be able to talk about it in more 133 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,960 detail. And I'm already like very 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,120 impressed and also feel very assured by the process in which 135 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,000 I've gone through so far. So come on this journey with us. 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Maybe we can start doing some better help horror stories where 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,600 people like uncover some shit that they'd suppress to their 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,120 therapist and then they send it to me and you to read out as 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,640 horror stories. Maybe we'll start being able to 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,200 do like our suppressed horror stories on this podcast. 141 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,160 I feel like that'd be quite good because God knows we have them 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:16,920 better. Help. 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Let's go for it together, girls. Let's do this and let's make 144 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,240 ourselves better lesbians and queers for the universe, because 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,720 we're all starting to have kids quite frequently now and we 146 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,960 don't want to repeat what the Hets have been doing for 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 generations. We need to be elite, Yeah, on 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,960 that. So we need to get this right. 149 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,920 So stop spending money at Sheba and get on better help. 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,680 This is your Auntie Scarlett talking. 151 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Oh my God, we we're actually recording today's episode from 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,560 bed as well, because which we just. 153 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,640 Put a photo of Ziggy with the mic between. 154 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Ziggy is next to me right now. Snoring. 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Snoring away, I've got my hand just placed on his little furry 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,280 ear and he's loving it. He's been really cute recently. 157 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 No, but he's just loving it. If we're in the bed recording, 158 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,160 he. Loves just being around people 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,880 talking in bed. Like he literally does love it. 160 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,560 So we're having a great time. This is so comfortable. 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,120 Like I feel so. Comfy. 162 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,640 I might start setting up cameras in here and just, Can you 163 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,680 imagine actually, which would be quite funny if we'd done, if 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,520 we'd done a bird's eye view above us and then we set up like 165 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,240 webcams in the corner of the room. 166 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,200 That would be hysterical. Do you know what we could do? 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,120 We could actually tape our phone to the ceiling and then we could 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,480 lie in bed with the mics. No because I wouldn't have it 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,320 live stream. I wouldn't be able to record 170 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,520 like this. I'm currently laying, she's flat 171 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,560 with the mic above my head. I couldn't do that, but we could 172 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,120 work it out. We could do something and I've 173 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,360 just had my ginger shark. It really is a new year, bitch. 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Fred, you've been spending an extreme amount of money on 175 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,520 those. Ginger shops also if we want 176 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,720 another sponsor Moju. Yeah, Moju, come on, guys. 177 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,360 I is quite literally holding this business of yours together. 178 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,200 I am I really love ginger so. Today we wanted to talk about 179 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,440 homoerotic friendships and interestingly we come on here 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,680 and give advice and like give it the big balls with anything that 181 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:19,360 we're talking about. And actually I decided for a 182 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,280 change to do some research about the topic that we are going to 183 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,800 discuss and realise that my perception of homo or my 184 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 understanding of homoerotic friendships was wrong. 185 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,680 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read out the Urban 186 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:35,680 Dictionary because obviously Urban Dictionary can be trusted 187 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,600 their their understanding of what homoerotic, homoerotic 188 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,560 friendships are. Then we're going to give our two 189 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,960 PS worth. And then I want to talk about 190 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 what I thought it was and why I thought it was that. 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,680 Yeah, OK, right. So the Urban Dictionary 192 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:56,320 description is homoerotic friendship, a friendship between 193 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,480 two people of the same aligned gender in which both parties 194 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,200 have romantic feelings for the other person but refuse to admit 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 it, either out of fear for the future of the friendship, 196 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,520 complications with accepting their sexuality, or both. 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,840 The friendship then becomes very intense and from an outside 198 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 perspective, the way they truly feel may seem more apparent. 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Due to the intense nature of the relationship, it can turn very 200 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,200 toxic and end up being the thing that tears them apart as these 201 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,720 feelings end up being repressed. Additionally, it is not uncommon 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,280 for these feelings to never be expressed until it is considered 203 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,680 too late and it's given. Like an example, the 204 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:36,280 relationship I had with my best friend in high school was so 205 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,320 intense I'm beginning to wonder if it was a homoerotic 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,840 friendship. Right. 207 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,440 OK so basically every single queer person. 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Lesbians first love Journey to love. 209 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Yeah, yeah. OK, that is different from what 210 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,160 I thought as well. But I also think that we hear 211 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 this all the time. So many people are saying like 212 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,520 I'm in love with my best friend or you know, I've got a really, 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,080 really close relationship. But I don't know if it's a quit, 214 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,160 like if it's because we're gay or we're just. 215 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,440 Really close or like, I don't think I'm gay, but I like to 216 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,440 hook up with my best friend and we have a great time, blah blah, 217 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,360 blah. I think that's really common. 218 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Like the more and more that we get people writing in, that is 219 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,280 extremely common. I think that especially with 220 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 women, it's really easy to get really, really close and you can 221 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,400 really easily blur the lines as well. 222 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,640 We also know as well of like situations where people aren't 223 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:33,520 able to accept their sexuality. So they know that they're gay or 224 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,920 they know that they're like queer and they are too consumed 225 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,120 with their internalised homophobia that they won't come 226 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,080 out, not even for like the other person. 227 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,080 So the other person can be right up for it out there, whatever. 228 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 And they could be just suppressing that part about. 229 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Themselves, I want to talk more about that point in a second, 230 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,680 but the first point that I actually just thought of is do 231 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,920 you think, and this goes out as well to any quote unquote 232 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,720 straight listeners that we may have listening to this podcast, 233 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Women who are quote unquote straight and are with men that 234 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,840 could be by or queer, so not necessarily fully lesbians, so 235 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,760 are very happy and content being with a man because they're in 236 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,160 love with that person. They also identify sexually with 237 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,600 that person. Do you think these women, sorry 238 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,280 if you can hear my belly rumbling, do you think these 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,880 women gain like a closer friendship with other women in 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,960 their friendship groups? They're like fully straight 241 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,000 women. So they don't necessarily blur 242 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,400 the line of like sexual, but they become more like almost 243 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,240 like romantically obsessed. Because I'm just thinking about 244 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,040 all of these like mum groups that I see on TikTok and shit 245 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 where like they all have kids around the same age and like the 246 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,840 men go off and do their things, which is so gay. 247 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,600 And then the women go and do their things. 248 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,280 And it's like, do you think that within these like friendship 249 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,600 groups of quote unquote, straight women of like 5 or 6 250 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,880 maybe that there's like one or two that are definitely more on 251 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,880 the queer spectrum, not enough to even accept it themselves, 252 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:18,040 but have those like very intense women versus women friendships? 253 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Does that make sense? No, but they do because I see it 254 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,640 first hand as well. And they also really love to 255 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,760 cling on to like, lesbians. I mean, you for a start. 256 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Women like this. Yeah. 257 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,880 And it is interesting because I think there's like an element of 258 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,400 escapism in it because I do think that having children, and 259 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,200 especially if you're with a man and you are straight, but 260 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160 they're not very attentive or whatever. 261 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,280 And I, I feel like women get more pissed off in relationships 262 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,600 with men when they've had a child because unless their man, 263 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,360 it is like incredible looking after the child. 264 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,200 I think it can like turn off the mum because you know when you 265 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,320 feel like you're like part you're, you're parenting your 266 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,080 partner. Yeah, they become a second 267 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,880 toddler in the household. Yeah, right. 268 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,320 So then I can imagine that you would then find solace with 269 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,640 other women because you're like, well, I don't want another man 270 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,560 around me because this one's already fucked me off. 271 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,960 Yeah, so you kind of understand each other on a deeper. 272 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,040 Level because there's like this like motherly thing that you're 273 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,120 both doing and that's really kind of like attractive by that 274 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,320 point because. You're like another point of 275 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,080 that actually as well, which is we've had people messaging about 276 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,640 it. And again, it's my understanding 277 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,840 of what I've seen online talking about a lot of lesbians and 278 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 queer relationships now having children. 279 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,720 We're definitely, I'm not saying this hasn't happened before, but 280 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,600 I feel like now more and more people are coming out there for 281 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,280 more and more people are having children together. 282 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Yes. Therefore there's a lot of more 283 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:51,480 exposure to it. These women loving women slash 284 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,520 lesbian slash queer relationships having children 285 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,480 seem to be doing it a lot better than the straights. 286 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,880 I think because you don't have that stereotype of the man will 287 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,680 go out and make the money and not really help with the kids. 288 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,520 I mean, it's on every sitcom. Every film with the dad is just 289 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,680 useless as fuck. So over time, even though you 290 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,560 know that this is like fictional or the way that you've been 291 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,240 raised as well, right? So a lot of men would have seen 292 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,080 their dad being pretty useless growing up and and it was always 293 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,320 their mum. No, no, no. 294 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,480 But it's not even that 'cause I'm not saying but. 295 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,480 We don't live by the stereotype. No, but I'm not saying that 296 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,560 there aren't amazing men out there and amazing fathers out 297 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,080 there. There are. 298 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Like are both of ours included? See it all the time. 299 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,360 I'm saying more of like the relationship dynamic. 300 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,280 I think from what I've seen and what I've heard from other 301 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,240 people talking about their experiences when it comes to 302 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,040 heterosexual relationships, the dynamic really seems to shift 303 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,200 and change. Whereas from what I've seen in 304 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,800 experience from queer relationships, primarily women 305 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,680 loving women relationships, is they actually get closer. 306 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Yes. This is from what I'm seeing and 307 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,320 from because we've had people as well write in who have said that 308 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,160 they're they split from their wife because of XY and Z reason, 309 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,440 but they still Co parent incredibly well together. 310 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,760 And I think this is what I'm going back around, kind of 311 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,360 coming back to the point of the homoerotic friendships and then 312 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,280 these like wider women friendship groups is that you do 313 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,600 generally get a deeper level of understanding between women than 314 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 you do between women and men because it's like so many 315 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 reasons, like biology, biology does come into. 316 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,720 It but also people are always drawn to their same sex, whether 317 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,760 it's romantically or not. What about all of the women 318 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,360 groups that girl nights and the boys like to hang around? 319 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,200 Boys, boys, boys, girls, girls, girls. 320 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,480 It there is a thing about it, you do want to be around your 321 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,360 same sex. I also think that because of 322 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,440 what we're saying in the sense where you have that likeness 323 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,120 with the same sex, attraction might happen purely because of 324 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,680 the understanding that the other. 325 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Person has that's as well where sometimes for some people this 326 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 quote doesn't resonate with me, but I can understand why it 327 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,280 resonates for some people where it's like I fell in love with 328 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,040 the person, not the gender, right? 329 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,079 Because like, for me, I'm definitely falling in love with 330 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,640 the gender as much as the person because I'm so fucking gay. 331 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,640 Like it's not just about the person, it is about the fact 332 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,040 that, like, you've got titties in a vagina, do you? 333 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,600 Like my titties and vagina? I don't like yours specifically, 334 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:35,360 but so like for me, it's like not about the person. 335 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Obviously it massively is, but like their gender means 336 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,480 something to me as well. It really does. 337 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,280 I I I am in love with you because you are you, but also 338 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,400 because you are a woman. But you. 339 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,080 But you are you because you're a woman, if that makes sense. 340 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:50,560 Right? When? 341 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,240 People say I fell in love and this does happen often, more so 342 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,200 with, and again, talking from purely like a woman perspective 343 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,800 because I don't have much conversation or insight into the 344 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,480 gay, gay men world. When there's older women that 345 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,120 have met later in life and have both previously been with men 346 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,960 and then leave their husbands and end up together, they often 347 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,080 use that which is like the person and I can see it. 348 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,360 I can see how that works for them. 349 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Yeah, we've kind of gone on a tangent. 350 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,880 I just find it really interesting going back to the 351 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,880 homoerotic relationship. So what did you think it was 352 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,560 then? No. 353 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 So first of all, I just want to say my understanding of it now 354 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 makes sense as to why it is basically like a lesbian war 355 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,760 badge, isn't it? Because we've spoken about the 356 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,040 lesbian war badges in the past and like how you need to just 357 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,800 basically go through certain holes literally to come out the 358 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,200 other side. Homoerotic friendship slash 359 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,560 relationship then is just basically part of that, isn't 360 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,440 it? Because I think nearly every 361 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,760 single one of us listening to this podcast has had a friend or 362 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,000 friends growing up that you were. 363 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,680 Absolutely in love, obsessed and infatuated with to a point where 364 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,600 it was borderline insanity. You couldn't work out why. 365 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,360 You didn't realise it was because you're a big fat lesbian 366 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,560 and you thought they were just the best thing since sliced 367 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,600 bread. Yeah, it's like, what was so 368 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,680 special about that person? No, no, no, you were. 369 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,600 You were just gay, and also you were just gay. 370 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,000 So that's basically what homoerotic friendship is. 371 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,520 Yeah. It's just a lesbian badge, 372 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:33,840 another lesbian war badge. I thought it was the closeness. 373 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,640 So I when I I've ever heard or thought about homoerotic 374 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,200 friendship or relationship, I've basically just thought of our 375 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,280 friendship group. Yeah. 376 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:48,400 So it's like I thought it was the level of closeness slash 377 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,920 borderline incestuous lesbian friendship groups get. 378 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,720 And. Yeah, So not just ours, but from 379 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,320 like what I see. So like we, for example, not 380 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280 going to name a name. One of our friends was talking 381 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:09,320 the other day about how she had a thing with a girl when she was 382 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,560 a few years ago that she really liked, but it never went 383 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 anywhere properly, but they became friends. 384 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,640 She then had another girl who she really liked and this girl 385 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,160 liked her, but it had never really materialised into 386 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,040 anything, but she kind of still liked them both. 387 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,760 They all then went out as a three and these girls met for 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,880 the first time that evening and ended up getting together. 389 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,520 And. She was like left in the corner. 390 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,720 And that to me explains like homoerotic friendship or when 391 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,560 there's like 2 friendship groups colliding. 392 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,600 So you may get with a girl or get into a relationship with a 393 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,160 girl where you've got a group of lesbian friends and she's got a 394 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,480 group of lesbian friends, and then suddenly those groups 395 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,480 colliding, they're all shagging. See, now I took homoerotic as 396 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,520 being really really, what's the word that I'm? 397 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,240 Like intense platonic relationships. 398 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,680 Yeah, so I was thinking, what's the word really literally right? 399 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,760 So like erotic for me is like sexual, not love, not anything 400 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,640 sexual. And homo obviously homo, I 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,920 thought that it meant like the way that we'll hang out with our 402 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,600 friends and I'll like hold their hands or we'll kiss or it's like 403 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,200 really touchy feely, but there's no emotions. 404 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,560 There's no feelings there. I I thought of it more like that 405 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,520 in the way that we can get really close with the same 406 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,120 gender, but there's no feelings in. 407 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 There I think we can rebrand it. Heard it here 1st. 408 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,920 I'm going to still use it to describe that and I why does 409 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,200 this happen? I think it's actually like a 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,320 weird human connection thing. I think it's like a comfort 411 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,280 thing. You know, when you have that 412 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,960 platonic love for someone, you're like, oh God, I love you 413 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,080 and I want to be close to you. You're so cute, but I don't love 414 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240 you and I don't fancy I. Agree about the platonic love 415 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,520 thing. I think that can apply to us 416 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080 with our friends, although I'm not necessarily touchy freely 417 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,680 full stop. But I get it. 418 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,160 But you are. I don't agree with it wholly 419 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,160 though because there's been so many examples of where we have 420 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,760 introduced 2 friends of ours that I've never met before. 421 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,680 One of them could be seeing someone in a relationship that 422 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,240 they will be very touchy feely with the other person. 423 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Yeah, I look, I just think for me. 424 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Maybe that's just cheating. I don't, yeah. 425 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,600 As far as I'm concerned, like, yeah, but I really get a 426 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,440 closeness with women. I feel really safe around women. 427 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,400 But even some men that I feel really close to as well, like 428 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Marcelo, like I'll be really touchy feely with Marcelo 429 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,720 because I feel close around him. It isn't a sexual. 430 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Then that's not homoerotic friendship. 431 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280 No, I get it. No, but say for instance, when 432 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,400 I'm they're next to Leo, I'll be like holding Leo's hand or like 433 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,760 grab her and kiss her on the cheek. 434 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,760 And I think it is because we are all I, we are, we all identify 435 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,160 as like either women or non binary. 436 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Yeah. And also, I think this happens 437 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920 primarily in homosexual friendships. 438 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,520 Homosexual. Homosexual friendships, because 439 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,080 maybe we have a level of closeness that heterosexual 440 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,440 friendships don't get through our lived experiences. 441 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,040 So through like, so for example, take me and Leo. 442 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,840 When I met Leo, we were both basically in the closet. 443 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,560 So I met this person on Tinder, which is so funny because if 444 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 anyone saw me and Leo together, that's just hilarious. 445 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,360 When we were both really like young, like 1617, we watched 446 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000 each other come out. We lived through each other's 447 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,160 first girlfriends and 1st breakups. 448 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,480 We've lived through each other's random hookups. 449 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,720 We've lived through so many like firsts of like the queer 450 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,560 experience. I feel a closeness to Leo in a 451 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,400 very different way that I feel a closeness to one of my straight. 452 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 Childhood friends. That being said though, I'm 453 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 really touchy feely with our straight friends too. 454 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Maybe it's just me, but they're also touchy feely back. 455 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Yeah, but they're also like to all our straight girlies, none 456 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,800 of them are that like they are all straight, but they're not 457 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,760 your typical. They all give big. 458 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Dike energy. Massive dike. 459 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,440 Energy. They're massively like. 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,440 To the point where I'm so shocked. 461 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,760 They're not the type of straight girls that. 462 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,440 You usually. Think straight girls being so 463 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040 true, like shout out to every single one of them. 464 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,160 They. Every single one gay. 465 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Energy yeah, but in a great way where they're like but I'm very 466 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,280 that's a compliment also yeah, massively, because I also think 467 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,600 a lot of them are well all of them are fucking independent, 468 00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:01,240 successful, fit, a self assured, confident woman who don't need 469 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,400 no fucking man like do you know what I mean? 470 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Like that's why their energy is like that, and that's why they 471 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,000 don't give that like classic like I got my man on my arm and. 472 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,720 I do this for my man. Yeah, like all of that. 473 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,160 So I think that's why and they're just touchy feely as 474 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880 well because they are all a little bit fruity like some of 475 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,000 them have had. Yeah, but it's just kind. 476 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,880 Of like it is. Again, though, it is kind of 477 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,840 like a comfort thing like I feel so comfortable. 478 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,480 I don't know what it is honestly, but I think I don't 479 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,400 know if you guys can relate to this. 480 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Please tell me if you can because I don't know this is 481 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880 just me, but we've seen it a lot like we know it's not just us, 482 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,720 but I want to know why that happens. 483 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,320 I I do genuinely think it's because you feel safe. 484 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,760 And I also think that we should break the stigma around being 485 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,520 platonically touchy feely with your friends or even not fucking 486 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,440 platonically. I've definitely touched every 487 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,720 one of their asses and tits. Yeah, and. 488 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,160 But there was like talking about this though, and talking about 489 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,040 how people, what we spoke previously about how that was 490 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,200 taken too far. Yeah, there is also a very fine 491 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800 line between doing that and then also just being a cheating 492 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,000 little shit. And I think it all goes back to 493 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,840 A your relationship if you are in a relationship and B your 494 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,200 intent, right? It's the intention. 495 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Because I know with you and vice versa that neither of us have 496 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,320 any sort of intention, love our friends to pieces, would not go 497 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,440 near any of them with a 10 foot barge pole in like a 498 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 relationship sense, no. And that I would say as well 499 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,800 with anyone that we would even maybe to meet in the future that 500 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,480 we would become really good friends with and have that kind 501 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,880 of closeness and touchy feelyness and the odd kiss or. 502 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,720 I never had the intention to be in a relationship with. 503 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Them. No. 504 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,880 And also yeah, it just, it just doesn't even come into my 505 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,760 periphery. Right. 506 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,880 If you're in a relationship with someone and they are like this 507 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,160 with friends or friends and you're like this with friends or 508 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,040 friends and you have a gut feeling that it's more than 509 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,600 that, you're probably right. Yeah. 510 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,920 Because it just. That's not because I I trust you 511 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,720 so much. But I'm not here to say that if 512 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960 I didn't see, I know you so well, I'd see a shift. 513 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200 I'd see a shift in your energy with that person. 514 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,480 Even if you're doing the same with that person as you were 515 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,720 someone else in the group. I would fucking know. 516 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,800 And I would kick the fuck off. So would I. 517 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,480 So it is like there is a line between people using that as an 518 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,640 excuse to be inappropriate as well, which I do think lesbians 519 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,280 do a lot, which needs to stop. Because if that's what you're 520 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,640 doing, grow up, own up, and like, accept that maybe you need 521 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,120 to open up the relationship or you need to be honest with your 522 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,120 partner about why you feel like you are. 523 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,520 That way. Do and be around that like that 524 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,720 in a certain way with other people that aren't your partner. 525 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Yeah, I think also don't berate your partner if they're upset 526 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,640 with you being touchy feely with somebody else. 527 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800 You can't just turn around and be like, it's fucking fine. 528 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,240 Like, do you know what I mean? Like don't be dismissive. 529 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,440 I think being dismissive is really hurtful, but. 530 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Again, it's really dependent on that person because like as 531 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,200 well, people do that out of sheer jealousy and then trying 532 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,360 try and point the finger at you of doing something that you're 533 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,920 really not fucking doing just because they're insecure in 534 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,080 themselves. Yes, which is really, really 535 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,920 annoying. So it is about knowing your 536 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,720 partner and knowing when they're doing something out of jealousy 537 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,880 and trying to get a reaction because they just don't like 538 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,760 something. And it might be OK when they do 539 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,440 it, but then it's not OK when you do it. 540 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Versus them sincerely being like, look, I feel like a line 541 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,360 was crossed a bit there. Can we talk about it? 542 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Does that make sense? Totally. 543 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Because you've said things to me in the past where you've been 544 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760 like, you fancy that person and I've been like, not that you've 545 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,160 said it out of jealousy, but you've just said it in passing. 546 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,680 And I've been like, no, I really didn't. 547 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,880 And you're like you, you did because I saw it. 548 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,000 And then I'm like, but I admit to you all of the friends of 549 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,200 ours that I think are really fit. 550 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Yeah, No. I know I get that. 551 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Do you know what I mean? So it's like it's very much 552 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,440 about having that conversation with your other half and knowing 553 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 what their true intentions are, what your true intentions are. 554 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,120 But I think homoerotic friendships is fucking great. 555 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,720 I mean, I love the fact that everyone's touching a titty, 556 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,120 touching an ass. It's. 557 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680 One of them got their ass out at the dinner table the other day. 558 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680 This is brilliant. That was, yeah, that was 559 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,520 hysterical. I just think it's all a bit of 560 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280 fun, as long as it is a bit of fun. 561 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Yeah, but you know what I mean. Fun. 562 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,320 Why? But I do love the level of 563 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,320 closeness that we have with our lesbian friendship group. 564 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360 I think it's just really. Not, and I think sometimes it's 565 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,240 hard because it can get super intense and it can get quite 566 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760 emotional sometimes. Like we've definitely in the 567 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,680 past, we have no drama in our friendship groups at all, which 568 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,800 is thank God the drama saw itself out. 569 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,800 The drama opened. Up and it's been gone for six 570 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,920 months now and I'm so happy but it still gets emotional 571 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,800 sometimes because people get emotional and you know when it 572 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560 is again a group of girls like I do feel like emotions just run 573 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760 higher generally, but never in a bitchy way, just in a like 574 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,840 sensitive way. So it can be quite intense, but 575 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,640 I love that side of it as well because everyone does care about 576 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 each other. Really, really it is because. 577 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,520 They care, yeah. It's not because you're like 578 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520 trying to make an issue out of anything, but it cuts deeper. 579 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Or you might get a bit more heated about something because 580 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,520 it does that friendship matters to you and that person matters 581 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,440 to you. Oh, talking of we this came up 582 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520 in conversation last night, which I just want to bring up 583 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 and it's sick and twisted, but I also want to know if anyone else 584 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,960 thinks it so came up in conversation when we were out 585 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,400 with our friends last night that this really attractive woman who 586 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,400 just had a baby walked past the baby in the pram. 587 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Why is it that new mums and pregnant women. 588 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Are so hot, so hot. Because I know this is a 589 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,680 universal lesbian experience as well, that a lot of lesbians I 590 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,120 speak to really have a thing. Our friend watches pregnant 591 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,840 women porn. Why is that? 592 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Do you know what I think it is, is that if you love women, women 593 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400 being the most womenly maternal creatures that they can be is 594 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,560 probably. Less than that of mummy issues. 595 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,840 Better help, better help. Use our code and let's say. 596 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:28,480 For 10% of your mummy issues, yeah, but I but it's always you 597 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520 know what? It's sick and twisted, but from 598 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,480 as young as I can remember. Really. 599 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,040 Even as a kid? Yeah. 600 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Yeah, like, like I remember finding it hot if I got told the 601 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,320 teacher was going on maternity leave. 602 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,000 Really. Fuck off Yeah, that is mummy 603 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240 issues that. But I don't have money issues, 604 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,240 probably do babe, I don't I've got. 605 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Everyone's got mummy issues. No, no, because you've seen me 606 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,560 and my mum too, yeah. No, I know, but you also 607 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,520 wouldn't crawl out of her ass until you're about 16, so I 608 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,960 feel. Because she was my best mate. 609 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Yeah, it's a bit of Gypsy Rose and there was nothing wrong with 610 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160 that fat dog. No, don't actually do my mum 611 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,400 dirty like that because I've got. 612 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,280 It's not about your mum. It is. 613 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Because she was saying I've got mummy issues. 614 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600 She's. Done anything wrong? 615 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280 It's just that I think everyone's born with some weird 616 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560 Freudian mummy issue daddy issue thing. 617 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,640 They just are because the dynamic are being raised by some 618 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,120 means. I want to continue to find, oh 619 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,640 there was another, that woman as well that walked past us 620 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000 yesterday when we were getting healthy in the morning. 621 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,960 With the sunglasses on, with the long blonde hair. 622 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,480 Oh my God. And she was pushing a pram and I 623 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040 was like, like, I want to be in that pram. 624 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Maybe it is my issues push me around. 625 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,880 No, I wanted. To be the pregnant body as well. 626 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,800 There's something really hot about it. 627 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,000 What is wrong with us? Like honestly, what is actually 628 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480 wrong with us? And I know that glow. 629 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,200 Though isn't there there is that. 630 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Maybe it's pheromones, Maybe they give us a smell. 631 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,240 Yeah, but also, why watch the porn then if it's all about the 632 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,480 pheromones? Well, that's why some make that, 633 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,120 won't we? Because I have never done that. 634 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,320 No. And I've never like googled it 635 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,880 or anything. No, I'm going to. 636 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Just find it really attractive. Can no, but then I don't like 637 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320 the idea of anyone fucking a pregnant woman. 638 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,640 Oh, I do. Do you? 639 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440 Yeah. Oh, no, I don't. 640 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760 So for me, that feels wrong. I think they're really, really, 641 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,040 really hot and that beautiful. But I would feel so wrong 642 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000 shagging a pregnant woman. Oh no. 643 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,080 If. She was really, really far gone. 644 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,480 I wouldn't like it, but anything up to six months is absolutely 645 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,120 fine. No, I'd be aware. 646 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,680 I'd be aware that there was a baby in that stomach whilst I 647 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200 was fucking heard that. Oh no. 648 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,000 No, see, I don't mind that. No, I hate it live. 649 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Hold on, hold on. I've got to call live in here to 650 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,000 ask her this question. Would you fuck a pregnant woman 651 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,159 speaking to the mic? No, no, you would. 652 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,400 No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't either. 653 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,040 She would. Yeah, I know. 654 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,360 You got sick. Fascination. 655 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,239 It's not sick. I know I'm not on my own here. 656 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,120 Give it back to Liv Hang. On I'm going to ask into the 657 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,880 group chat quickly. Do you think let's, do you think 658 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,480 that pregnant women are hot though? 659 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Yeah, yeah, of course they're attractive. 660 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,679 But the idea of fucking a pregnant woman fills with down 661 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,639 on someone who's like 8 months taste. 662 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,560 A bit of taste, a bit of baby juice. 663 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,800 Imagine. Imagine it starts kicking 664 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,199 because it's enjoying it. So much. 665 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,239 I've just asked Polly and Leo in the group chat as well. 666 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400 Oh, and I'm going to ask in the lesbians chat. 667 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,159 Yeah, I know Leanna will. I know Leanna will of. 668 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,440 Course Leanna will. I'm surprised that you don't get 669 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,960 turned on there with my little endometriosis bloat that I get 670 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040 my little bloaty belly. How do you know I don't? 671 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,520 Oh. I don't. 672 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Oh. Best come back straight away. 673 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,800 She says no, I'm calling the police. 674 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,400 She says no, then there is something profoundly wrong with 675 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,240 humanity just whilst our friends are replying. 22 girls have said 676 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,120 yes they would fuck a pregnant woman in the group chat so it's 677 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,320 2 so far. Me and Liva very much so. 678 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,280 To be outnumbered. So yeah, so there's three so far 679 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640 waiting on Beth and Leanna Polly's in Singapore. 680 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,120 I know Polly would do it. Polly. 681 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200 Would Polly 100% worth? I'm answering for Polly. 682 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,680 It's fine. So that's another one. 683 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,120 So that's 4/2. I might just ask the straight 684 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,040 girls as well just to see if they say anything. 685 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Just whilst we're waiting on responses, this is a shout out 686 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,960 to everyone that if you get a random wave from Freya on 687 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,280 TikTok, she's not actually trying to say hello to you. 688 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:03,280 Sending unknowingly waves to people are in my sleep. 689 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,040 In her sleep, on TikTok and. People come back and go, hey, 690 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,360 it's awful because like. As I'm falling asleep, do you 691 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,640 know what I once sent my ex boss? 692 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,200 A video of mermaid hunting a mermaid conspiracy. 693 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,880 I love mermaid hunting tickets but. 694 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,080 Then he went back and was like, how? 695 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,320 Really interesting and I was like I'm sorry I sent this to 696 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,600 you in my sleep to be fair. Knowing you, you could have sent 697 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,720 them a lot, a lot worse. I know I could have. 698 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,840 So I my full blessing is really. I do love mermaid hunting TikTok 699 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,840 though. Yeah. 700 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:41,400 Oh my God. So like mermaids existing, 701 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,920 right? I, by the way, 100% believe 702 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120 mermaids exist. Like we haven't identified like 703 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,040 what 98% of the ocean mermaids definitely exist, that there's 704 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,280 been like video recordings of people in like India who go like 705 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,440 fishing in the dark and stuff. And they have like torches where 706 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,920 there's been like video footage captured of like, it's creepy as 707 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960 hell of like a. Hand that's almost like a. 708 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,720 Hand, but a fish hand. It's insane. 709 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,600 But then also, yeah, it's not the type of mermaids. 710 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,360 That and a lot of like skeletons. 711 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,720 Have come up on beaches of mermaid tails, yeah. 712 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,360 I'm I'm obsessed. I. 713 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,640 Want to see where the? People are. 714 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160 I don't want to see that. That's the type of. 715 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,040 Mermaid, that right there. I'm like, Ariel, what the fuck 716 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,760 is? Ariel, what the fuck is this 717 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,280 creature that's just I would love. 718 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,160 To reincarnate as a demonic mermaid. 719 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,200 You are a demonic mermaid. Because I don't want to be a. 720 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,640 Nice one. I want to be Ariel and I want to 721 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,760 have, Beth actually replied with. 722 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,280 A voice note. OK, right, pop it to the mic. 723 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,320 I think I would have to have feelings for the pregnant woman 724 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960 in order to have sex with them. That makes sense. 725 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,160 That's my answer. I agree with that, but that's 726 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,360 different. No it's not. 727 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,440 I'd fuck you. Being a pregnant. 728 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,880 Woman. But Rhiannon also said depends 729 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,960 on the woman. In question. 730 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Interesting. My requirement is they. 731 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,080 Have to be hot, yeah, and that's it. 732 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480 But they are automatically. Hotter because they are 733 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,520 pregnant. Yeah, I know. 734 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,440 So whereas. Yeah. 735 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280 Whereas my standards are usually a certain certain out of 10, it 736 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040 would be a certain certain out of a bit less than that. 737 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,680 How many points do you reckon it gives them +3? 738 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,440 2 +2 OK. It's a + 2. 739 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,800 But no, no, no, because. You would. 740 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,160 No, this is where you're going to annoy me because you're like, 741 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,640 oh, I'd shag you if you were pregnant. 742 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680 Yeah, but you weren't saying about that. 743 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,800 You were saying about how you find it weird about, like, the 744 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,280 baby being there. I get that it is a bit weird 745 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,680 that the baby is there. Now that I'm thinking about. 746 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,160 It because I'm going to know the baby. 747 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,240 But not going to be. My fucking baby is. 748 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,320 It if I was fingering you and you were. 749 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,760 Pregnant. Yeah, it would be your baby, 750 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:51,000 unless you used my egg, but it still be some of your DNA. 751 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,720 So it would be your baby as well. 752 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,720 That I'm going to then meet the baby. 753 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,360 I'd rather have a one night stand. 754 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,200 I'd rather have a one night stand with a woman where I'm 755 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,640 never going to look the child in the eye. 756 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,680 No, that feels worse. No, I'm sorry, it's not so. 757 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,840 Yeah, all of that being. Said basically, we want to know 758 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,960 if you'd fuck up. And do you have homoerotic 759 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400 relationships? And how have they gone right? 760 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Baby Horror Story. Time. 761 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,960 Have you got it? No Liv's got. 762 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,680 It Liv's got it, Liv's got everything. 763 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Liv's everyone's obsessed with Liv at the moment. 764 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,320 Like on my Instagram, on my TikTok, Liv is single, but Liv 765 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,160 is. Quite emotionally damaged from 766 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,880 her previous relationship. Yeah, better help. 767 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,800 Use code LSU for 10% off. So I mean she's not a damaged. 768 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,000 Person Liv is actually the most normal person, like lesbian 769 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,880 unproblematic person I have ever met in my whole life. 770 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,080 She's you are a golden style for that. 771 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,840 But you're emotionally damaged because of the X, not because 772 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,880 you've got emotional problems. OK, so everyone's going to be 773 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,200 very happy that this is today's Horror Story because it's the 774 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,920 com, the com, it's Com Chronic It is. 775 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920 It's come, It's Come Chronicles Part 2. 776 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,200 So if you don't remember, let me remind you, make sure you're not 777 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,720 eating right now. The Come Chronicles was the 778 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,960 Horror Story we read out a few weeks ago. 779 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,160 Where the poor girl. Went out to get a drink. 780 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,040 For her girlfriend and her girlfriend's gay best friend. 781 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,280 And when she came home, the gay best friend left her and her 782 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,720 girlfriend started to have sex. She got a salty taste in her 783 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,240 mouth because the girlfriend had fucked the gay best friend while 784 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,600 she was out getting them a drink and it was wholly traumatising. 785 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,680 We did say that we needed like what happened after in more 786 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,720 detail. Did she leave her number? 787 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,600 No she did. Such a shame. 788 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040 If she's ever in the UKI want to get her on. 789 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,320 Poor girl, so. Being the legend that she is. 790 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,880 She's come back with Part 2. Good morning, ladies. 791 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,480 I take it that S has not sent in an explanation for her decisions 792 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,240 regarding the Com chronicles. I can't say I'm surprised that I 793 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960 am a little disappointed. Oh yeah, because the girlfriend 794 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440 listens to the podcast. Oh yes, sorry, I thought she'd 795 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,800 been. She's in you for a second. 796 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Obviously she's not come forward. 797 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120 Which you can't blame her, can you? 798 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,720 Really. I wouldn't help myself for that. 799 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600 No, I was curious. To hear her side. 800 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,280 Without having to reach out on my own. 801 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,480 But Oh well. Some new information I've 802 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,640 received from a close friend who heard the LSE episodes about my 803 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,760 experience has just arrived and I figured I would relate to you 804 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,520 just in case you're at all personally interested. 805 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,320 Very personal. Oh God, this is even better than 806 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,480 I could have expected it. Not us. 807 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960 Now single. Handedly unsurfacing trauma 808 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,080 within friendship groups. Yeah, around the other side of 809 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,760 the fucking world. Iconic girls keep listening to 810 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,600 this podcast. We can keep getting sponsors and 811 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,040 keep doing this. One of my friends who was a part 812 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,120 of my ex and I shared friendship group got some tea. 813 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:02,200 Apparently S&M had a short lived fling after the affair because 814 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,720 when I kicked her out she went to live with him. 815 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,760 What the fuck it didn't. Last long because. 816 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,720 Let's be honest, dating the cheater after they cheat never 817 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:15,560 lasts. No any whore I've come spelt CUM 818 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,800 to find out that the fling was so short lived because M isn't 819 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,520 the monogamous sort and didn't want to commit to relationship 820 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,400 with S. Also is it M gay? 821 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,920 I'm so. Confused, resulting in her 822 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,440 having to. Find another place to live, I 823 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,560 don't know where though. Karma is a cunt. 824 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,280 Also the details of the traumatic incident were never 825 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,680 shared by her to anyone and the only reason our shared friends 826 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,160 knew was because I disclosed it over many many bottles of red. 827 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,160 This unintentionally but also sort of intentionally on my 828 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,280 part, resulting in her being excluded from my mutual friends. 829 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,720 Good. To be honest, I think it's like 830 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,040 quite fair enough because this is very rogue behaviour. 831 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880 I feel bad that she lost her support group even though she 832 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,160 hurt me. Yes she brought it on herself 833 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,680 but no one deserves to be outcast over a mistake I guess, 834 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,120 which is also fair. Like people do make mistakes. 835 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,400 It is a tough one. People don't always make 836 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,280 mistakes. Like that, but then going to 837 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,480 live with him was. Bad. 838 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,960 It was intentional. I have mixed emotions on the 839 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040 subject. If you couldn't tell, my toxic 840 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080 side is absolutely lathering in her downfall, but the empathetic 841 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,360 side of me. Feel sorry for her. 842 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,680 That would be me. So be me. 843 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,400 This would so be me. From my knowledge, she still 844 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,120 lives in Philadelphia and appears to be trucking along. 845 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Anyway, I digress and we leave it on this note in case the LSE 846 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,920 group was curious. This is over the info that I 847 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,800 have at this time. Maybe if I ever take up my dream 848 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,040 trip to London, I will e-mail again and you can ask me all the 849 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,920 questions you want. She can come to the studio, 850 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,360 sweetheart, you. Can sit down and talk to you, as 851 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,200 always with love. And pride, that is. 852 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,440 Wow, I can't believe that she moved in with him afterwards 853 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,000 that that's fucking I know they were best friends. 854 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,360 But The thing is, let me give my exam like my kind of opinion on 855 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,240 this. If I'd done that with my best 856 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:04,800 friend and it caused me my relationship, I'd be so 857 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,760 traumatised by the association that person, I couldn't, I 858 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,800 wouldn't be able to look them in the eye. 859 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,280 I'd be around them for at least six months until I'd like got 860 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,640 over it. So the fact she cheated with 861 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,880 him, lost her girlfriend and then moved in with him, she 862 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,360 probably thought it's already so. 863 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,960 Bad. So no, I couldn't. 864 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360 No. That would I would feel really 865 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,320 like she doesn't sound like she's got any empathy really if 866 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,160 I don't think. She was that bored and I think. 867 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,480 She had feelings for him, yeah, and tried it and then realised 868 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,200 very quickly, fuck, I don't have feelings for him. 869 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,880 What was I thinking? Well, especially because she 870 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,800 said that he's not the. Monogamist type. 871 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,720 So clearly she was ready to be in a relationship with him by 872 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,800 the sounds of things, but he wasn't able to give that and she 873 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,080 wasn't happy with him being non monogamous. 874 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,400 Yeah, very interesting, very interesting. 875 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000 But I am very. Satisfied with the Part 2 of 876 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,920 that because it's it's actually answered a lot of questions that 877 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,840 I had and I feel like justice has been served. 878 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,800 I hope the girl that done The Dirty is now fine. 879 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120 No one wants prolonged unhappiness for everyone. 880 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,640 But I am also glad that the girl that wrote in has got her bit of 881 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,360 karma and everyone can move the fuck on with their lives, 882 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,720 including me. Only good things coming for. 883 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,840 You coming for you Anyway, guys, we love you. 884 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:22,920 We're off. We'll see you on next week's 885 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,760 episode. We're off to. 886 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,240 Go and get some pizza. We are some. 887 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,800 Beers, we're going to see you on next week's. 888 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,840 Episode we're going to be much bigger, better and involved 889 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,800 people because we'd have started therapy. 890 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,640 Absolutely love you. Bye. 891 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,440 Bye and see you next week. See you next week's guys. 892 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,800 Bye.