Hi lesbians, how are we all this week?
We hope that if you're in the UK, you've suffered the
absolutely immense freeze that has been happening that has
quite nearly killed me off. I've been miserable as fuck in
this mother because it's just been like, you know, when you
can't focus on anything else, you're like, no, I'm just cold.
Yeah. And I even bought myself these,
like heat tech jumpers, heat tech socks.
You know it's bad if I'm investing and shit.
Like that and also like we've just been discussing with
everyone so much that once Christmas is over the winter can
just fuck the fuck off. It can fuck off like it
shouldn't exist anyway. I mean we have said multiple
times we are living in the wrong country.
Because to anyone listening to this podcast who's like, I love
seasons go away, go away. Pathetic.
Spring summer is the only seasons that any of us need.
I don't give a shit about the colours of autumn.
Maybe. Like a week of autumn, just so
that you can appreciate again going back into snow, OK?
I don't care about the colours of autumn, I don't care about
the leaves falling, I don't care about your pumpkin spiced
fucking coffee. Yeah, get the fuck away from me
and give me a pina colada on the beach.
It's a. Red flag when people say it.
They love winter. I'm like, no.
You don't see if I dated someone who was like, winter's my
favourite season out because we're not compatible.
Is it a wrong time for me to tell you that I love winter?
I know you don't know, so it's. Bio We were saying as well that
before Christmas you've got all the lights and everything else,
so like. It's really not more bearable.
And also like we have the association of like winter to
like Father Christmas, Santa. Do you know what I mean?
Like. Yeah, but also why don't they
just keep the lights up until the light March?
Because I think that's also quite depressing once Christmas
is over. No, because I think that like
the lights made it a bit more like colourful.
And you can, you can, you know, like now.
Now when I walk down the road, it's just dark.
I don't know. Anyway, it's January and we're
depressed and on top of that, I my migraines have been
absolutely horrific again. And I want to shout out to
anyone on this podcast actually who may or may not suffer with
severe migraines. I suffer specifically with a
migraine called hemoplegic migraines and or absent seizure
type. Things.
Because this has been an ongoing issue for me now for years,
where I go through these periods of like every day, like two or
three times a day where I will be walking down the street and I
suddenly feel like I'm going to pass out.
And it basically feels like Deja vu times 1000.
So I suddenly feel like I see kind of like flashing images
almost in a dream, but I can't conceptualise what they are.
My hearing goes, my eyesight goes, I feel really sick because
I get really hot, feel like I'm going to pass out.
It lasts for about 30 seconds to a minute and then it's over and
then for about 10-15 minutes after I feel really weird,
dissociated and then I'm fine. That's so weird.
It's so weird and I know for a fact that it's not panic
attacks. It is not panic attacks because
I've had panic attacks and this is not it.
Also like. But I don't know what it is.
I don't. Panic attack Queen.
Like I would know if that was panic.
Attack and I don't want to jump the gun and be like oh it's it
is seizures or anything like that because it may well not be.
I've just inclined to know if anyone else has ever had this
and if they've ever got a diagnosis from it.
I'm going to a neurologist this Thursday hoping for some
answers. But if you live in the UK, the
NHS is an incredible thing. But bless it is struggling and
it's on its knees and I don't have a whole lot of hope that
I'm going to get any answers. So I'm calling out to you
lesbians. That on top of us all being
psychologically damaged, existing with the world on our
shoulders. Can anyone else help me in a
medical field? Talk about being psychologically
damaged. Yeah, talk about.
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No, but he's just loving it. If we're in the bed recording,
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homoerotic friendships and interestingly we come on here
and give advice and like give it the big balls with anything that
we're talking about. And actually I decided for a
change to do some research about the topic that we are going to
discuss and realise that my perception of homo or my
understanding of homoerotic friendships was wrong.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read out the Urban
Dictionary because obviously Urban Dictionary can be trusted
their their understanding of what homoerotic, homoerotic
friendships are. Then we're going to give our two
PS worth. And then I want to talk about
what I thought it was and why I thought it was that.
Yeah, OK, right. So the Urban Dictionary
description is homoerotic friendship, a friendship between
two people of the same aligned gender in which both parties
have romantic feelings for the other person but refuse to admit
it, either out of fear for the future of the friendship,
complications with accepting their sexuality, or both.
The friendship then becomes very intense and from an outside
perspective, the way they truly feel may seem more apparent.
Due to the intense nature of the relationship, it can turn very
toxic and end up being the thing that tears them apart as these
feelings end up being repressed. Additionally, it is not uncommon
for these feelings to never be expressed until it is considered
too late and it's given. Like an example, the
relationship I had with my best friend in high school was so
intense I'm beginning to wonder if it was a homoerotic
friendship. Right.
OK so basically every single queer person.
Lesbians first love Journey to love.
Yeah, yeah. OK, that is different from what
I thought as well. But I also think that we hear
this all the time. So many people are saying like
I'm in love with my best friend or you know, I've got a really,
really close relationship. But I don't know if it's a quit,
like if it's because we're gay or we're just.
Really close or like, I don't think I'm gay, but I like to
hook up with my best friend and we have a great time, blah blah,
blah. I think that's really common.
Like the more and more that we get people writing in, that is
extremely common. I think that especially with
women, it's really easy to get really, really close and you can
really easily blur the lines as well.
We also know as well of like situations where people aren't
able to accept their sexuality. So they know that they're gay or
they know that they're like queer and they are too consumed
with their internalised homophobia that they won't come
out, not even for like the other person.
So the other person can be right up for it out there, whatever.
And they could be just suppressing that part about.
Themselves, I want to talk more about that point in a second,
but the first point that I actually just thought of is do
you think, and this goes out as well to any quote unquote
straight listeners that we may have listening to this podcast,
Women who are quote unquote straight and are with men that
could be by or queer, so not necessarily fully lesbians, so
are very happy and content being with a man because they're in
love with that person. They also identify sexually with
that person. Do you think these women, sorry
if you can hear my belly rumbling, do you think these
women gain like a closer friendship with other women in
their friendship groups? They're like fully straight
women. So they don't necessarily blur
the line of like sexual, but they become more like almost
like romantically obsessed. Because I'm just thinking about
all of these like mum groups that I see on TikTok and shit
where like they all have kids around the same age and like the
men go off and do their things, which is so gay.
And then the women go and do their things.
And it's like, do you think that within these like friendship
groups of quote unquote, straight women of like 5 or 6
maybe that there's like one or two that are definitely more on
the queer spectrum, not enough to even accept it themselves,
but have those like very intense women versus women friendships?
Does that make sense? No, but they do because I see it
first hand as well. And they also really love to
cling on to like, lesbians. I mean, you for a start.
Women like this. Yeah.
And it is interesting because I think there's like an element of
escapism in it because I do think that having children, and
especially if you're with a man and you are straight, but
they're not very attentive or whatever.
And I, I feel like women get more pissed off in relationships
with men when they've had a child because unless their man,
it is like incredible looking after the child.
I think it can like turn off the mum because you know when you
feel like you're like part you're, you're parenting your
partner. Yeah, they become a second
toddler in the household. Yeah, right.
So then I can imagine that you would then find solace with
other women because you're like, well, I don't want another man
around me because this one's already fucked me off.
Yeah, so you kind of understand each other on a deeper.
Level because there's like this like motherly thing that you're
both doing and that's really kind of like attractive by that
point because. You're like another point of
that actually as well, which is we've had people messaging about
it. And again, it's my understanding
of what I've seen online talking about a lot of lesbians and
queer relationships now having children.
We're definitely, I'm not saying this hasn't happened before, but
I feel like now more and more people are coming out there for
more and more people are having children together.
Yes. Therefore there's a lot of more
exposure to it. These women loving women slash
lesbian slash queer relationships having children
seem to be doing it a lot better than the straights.
I think because you don't have that stereotype of the man will
go out and make the money and not really help with the kids.
I mean, it's on every sitcom. Every film with the dad is just
useless as fuck. So over time, even though you
know that this is like fictional or the way that you've been
raised as well, right? So a lot of men would have seen
their dad being pretty useless growing up and and it was always
their mum. No, no, no.
But it's not even that 'cause I'm not saying but.
We don't live by the stereotype. No, but I'm not saying that
there aren't amazing men out there and amazing fathers out
there. There are.
Like are both of ours included? See it all the time.
I'm saying more of like the relationship dynamic.
I think from what I've seen and what I've heard from other
people talking about their experiences when it comes to
heterosexual relationships, the dynamic really seems to shift
and change. Whereas from what I've seen in
experience from queer relationships, primarily women
loving women relationships, is they actually get closer.
Yes. This is from what I'm seeing and
from because we've had people as well write in who have said that
they're they split from their wife because of XY and Z reason,
but they still Co parent incredibly well together.
And I think this is what I'm going back around, kind of
coming back to the point of the homoerotic friendships and then
these like wider women friendship groups is that you do
generally get a deeper level of understanding between women than
you do between women and men because it's like so many
reasons, like biology, biology does come into.
It but also people are always drawn to their same sex, whether
it's romantically or not. What about all of the women
groups that girl nights and the boys like to hang around?
Boys, boys, boys, girls, girls, girls.
It there is a thing about it, you do want to be around your
same sex. I also think that because of
what we're saying in the sense where you have that likeness
with the same sex, attraction might happen purely because of
the understanding that the other.
Person has that's as well where sometimes for some people this
quote doesn't resonate with me, but I can understand why it
resonates for some people where it's like I fell in love with
the person, not the gender, right?
Because like, for me, I'm definitely falling in love with
the gender as much as the person because I'm so fucking gay.
Like it's not just about the person, it is about the fact
that, like, you've got titties in a vagina, do you?
Like my titties and vagina? I don't like yours specifically,
but so like for me, it's like not about the person.
Obviously it massively is, but like their gender means
something to me as well. It really does.
I I I am in love with you because you are you, but also
because you are a woman. But you.
But you are you because you're a woman, if that makes sense.
Right? When?
People say I fell in love and this does happen often, more so
with, and again, talking from purely like a woman perspective
because I don't have much conversation or insight into the
gay, gay men world. When there's older women that
have met later in life and have both previously been with men
and then leave their husbands and end up together, they often
use that which is like the person and I can see it.
I can see how that works for them.
Yeah, we've kind of gone on a tangent.
I just find it really interesting going back to the
homoerotic relationship. So what did you think it was
then? No.
So first of all, I just want to say my understanding of it now
makes sense as to why it is basically like a lesbian war
badge, isn't it? Because we've spoken about the
lesbian war badges in the past and like how you need to just
basically go through certain holes literally to come out the
other side. Homoerotic friendship slash
relationship then is just basically part of that, isn't
it? Because I think nearly every
single one of us listening to this podcast has had a friend or
friends growing up that you were.
Absolutely in love, obsessed and infatuated with to a point where
it was borderline insanity. You couldn't work out why.
You didn't realise it was because you're a big fat lesbian
and you thought they were just the best thing since sliced
bread. Yeah, it's like, what was so
special about that person? No, no, no, you were.
You were just gay, and also you were just gay.
So that's basically what homoerotic friendship is.
Yeah. It's just a lesbian badge,
another lesbian war badge. I thought it was the closeness.
So I when I I've ever heard or thought about homoerotic
friendship or relationship, I've basically just thought of our
friendship group. Yeah.
So it's like I thought it was the level of closeness slash
borderline incestuous lesbian friendship groups get.
And. Yeah, So not just ours, but from
like what I see. So like we, for example, not
going to name a name. One of our friends was talking
the other day about how she had a thing with a girl when she was
a few years ago that she really liked, but it never went
anywhere properly, but they became friends.
She then had another girl who she really liked and this girl
liked her, but it had never really materialised into
anything, but she kind of still liked them both.
They all then went out as a three and these girls met for
the first time that evening and ended up getting together.
And. She was like left in the corner.
And that to me explains like homoerotic friendship or when
there's like 2 friendship groups colliding.
So you may get with a girl or get into a relationship with a
girl where you've got a group of lesbian friends and she's got a
group of lesbian friends, and then suddenly those groups
colliding, they're all shagging. See, now I took homoerotic as
being really really, what's the word that I'm?
Like intense platonic relationships.
Yeah, so I was thinking, what's the word really literally right?
So like erotic for me is like sexual, not love, not anything
sexual. And homo obviously homo, I
thought that it meant like the way that we'll hang out with our
friends and I'll like hold their hands or we'll kiss or it's like
really touchy feely, but there's no emotions.
There's no feelings there. I I thought of it more like that
in the way that we can get really close with the same
gender, but there's no feelings in.
There I think we can rebrand it. Heard it here 1st.
I'm going to still use it to describe that and I why does
this happen? I think it's actually like a
weird human connection thing. I think it's like a comfort
thing. You know, when you have that
platonic love for someone, you're like, oh God, I love you
and I want to be close to you. You're so cute, but I don't love
you and I don't fancy I. Agree about the platonic love
thing. I think that can apply to us
with our friends, although I'm not necessarily touchy freely
full stop. But I get it.
But you are. I don't agree with it wholly
though because there's been so many examples of where we have
introduced 2 friends of ours that I've never met before.
One of them could be seeing someone in a relationship that
they will be very touchy feely with the other person.
Yeah, I look, I just think for me.
Maybe that's just cheating. I don't, yeah.
As far as I'm concerned, like, yeah, but I really get a
closeness with women. I feel really safe around women.
But even some men that I feel really close to as well, like
Marcelo, like I'll be really touchy feely with Marcelo
because I feel close around him. It isn't a sexual.
Then that's not homoerotic friendship.
No, I get it. No, but say for instance, when
I'm they're next to Leo, I'll be like holding Leo's hand or like
grab her and kiss her on the cheek.
And I think it is because we are all I, we are, we all identify
as like either women or non binary.
Yeah. And also, I think this happens
primarily in homosexual friendships.
Homosexual. Homosexual friendships, because
maybe we have a level of closeness that heterosexual
friendships don't get through our lived experiences.
So through like, so for example, take me and Leo.
When I met Leo, we were both basically in the closet.
So I met this person on Tinder, which is so funny because if
anyone saw me and Leo together, that's just hilarious.
When we were both really like young, like 1617, we watched
each other come out. We lived through each other's
first girlfriends and 1st breakups.
We've lived through each other's random hookups.
We've lived through so many like firsts of like the queer
experience. I feel a closeness to Leo in a
very different way that I feel a closeness to one of my straight.
Childhood friends. That being said though, I'm
really touchy feely with our straight friends too.
Maybe it's just me, but they're also touchy feely back.
Yeah, but they're also like to all our straight girlies, none
of them are that like they are all straight, but they're not
your typical. They all give big.
Dike energy. Massive dike.
Energy. They're massively like.
To the point where I'm so shocked.
They're not the type of straight girls that.
You usually. Think straight girls being so
true, like shout out to every single one of them.
They. Every single one gay.
Energy yeah, but in a great way where they're like but I'm very
that's a compliment also yeah, massively, because I also think
a lot of them are well all of them are fucking independent,
successful, fit, a self assured, confident woman who don't need
no fucking man like do you know what I mean?
Like that's why their energy is like that, and that's why they
don't give that like classic like I got my man on my arm and.
I do this for my man. Yeah, like all of that.
So I think that's why and they're just touchy feely as
well because they are all a little bit fruity like some of
them have had. Yeah, but it's just kind.
Of like it is. Again, though, it is kind of
like a comfort thing like I feel so comfortable.
I don't know what it is honestly, but I think I don't
know if you guys can relate to this.
Please tell me if you can because I don't know this is
just me, but we've seen it a lot like we know it's not just us,
but I want to know why that happens.
I I do genuinely think it's because you feel safe.
And I also think that we should break the stigma around being
platonically touchy feely with your friends or even not fucking
platonically. I've definitely touched every
one of their asses and tits. Yeah, and.
But there was like talking about this though, and talking about
how people, what we spoke previously about how that was
taken too far. Yeah, there is also a very fine
line between doing that and then also just being a cheating
little shit. And I think it all goes back to
A your relationship if you are in a relationship and B your
intent, right? It's the intention.
Because I know with you and vice versa that neither of us have
any sort of intention, love our friends to pieces, would not go
near any of them with a 10 foot barge pole in like a
relationship sense, no. And that I would say as well
with anyone that we would even maybe to meet in the future that
we would become really good friends with and have that kind
of closeness and touchy feelyness and the odd kiss or.
I never had the intention to be in a relationship with.
Them. No.
And also yeah, it just, it just doesn't even come into my
periphery. Right.
If you're in a relationship with someone and they are like this
with friends or friends and you're like this with friends or
friends and you have a gut feeling that it's more than
that, you're probably right. Yeah.
Because it just. That's not because I I trust you
so much. But I'm not here to say that if
I didn't see, I know you so well, I'd see a shift.
I'd see a shift in your energy with that person.
Even if you're doing the same with that person as you were
someone else in the group. I would fucking know.
And I would kick the fuck off. So would I.
So it is like there is a line between people using that as an
excuse to be inappropriate as well, which I do think lesbians
do a lot, which needs to stop. Because if that's what you're
doing, grow up, own up, and like, accept that maybe you need
to open up the relationship or you need to be honest with your
partner about why you feel like you are.
That way. Do and be around that like that
in a certain way with other people that aren't your partner.
Yeah, I think also don't berate your partner if they're upset
with you being touchy feely with somebody else.
You can't just turn around and be like, it's fucking fine.
Like, do you know what I mean? Like don't be dismissive.
I think being dismissive is really hurtful, but.
Again, it's really dependent on that person because like as
well, people do that out of sheer jealousy and then trying
try and point the finger at you of doing something that you're
really not fucking doing just because they're insecure in
themselves. Yes, which is really, really
annoying. So it is about knowing your
partner and knowing when they're doing something out of jealousy
and trying to get a reaction because they just don't like
something. And it might be OK when they do
it, but then it's not OK when you do it.
Versus them sincerely being like, look, I feel like a line
was crossed a bit there. Can we talk about it?
Does that make sense? Totally.
Because you've said things to me in the past where you've been
like, you fancy that person and I've been like, not that you've
said it out of jealousy, but you've just said it in passing.
And I've been like, no, I really didn't.
And you're like you, you did because I saw it.
And then I'm like, but I admit to you all of the friends of
ours that I think are really fit.
Yeah, No. I know I get that.
Do you know what I mean? So it's like it's very much
about having that conversation with your other half and knowing
what their true intentions are, what your true intentions are.
But I think homoerotic friendships is fucking great.
I mean, I love the fact that everyone's touching a titty,
touching an ass. It's.
One of them got their ass out at the dinner table the other day.
This is brilliant. That was, yeah, that was
hysterical. I just think it's all a bit of
fun, as long as it is a bit of fun.
Yeah, but you know what I mean. Fun.
Why? But I do love the level of
closeness that we have with our lesbian friendship group.
I think it's just really. Not, and I think sometimes it's
hard because it can get super intense and it can get quite
emotional sometimes. Like we've definitely in the
past, we have no drama in our friendship groups at all, which
is thank God the drama saw itself out.
The drama opened. Up and it's been gone for six
months now and I'm so happy but it still gets emotional
sometimes because people get emotional and you know when it
is again a group of girls like I do feel like emotions just run
higher generally, but never in a bitchy way, just in a like
sensitive way. So it can be quite intense, but
I love that side of it as well because everyone does care about
each other. Really, really it is because.
They care, yeah. It's not because you're like
trying to make an issue out of anything, but it cuts deeper.
Or you might get a bit more heated about something because
it does that friendship matters to you and that person matters
to you. Oh, talking of we this came up
in conversation last night, which I just want to bring up
and it's sick and twisted, but I also want to know if anyone else
thinks it so came up in conversation when we were out
with our friends last night that this really attractive woman who
just had a baby walked past the baby in the pram.
Why is it that new mums and pregnant women.
Are so hot, so hot. Because I know this is a
universal lesbian experience as well, that a lot of lesbians I
speak to really have a thing. Our friend watches pregnant
women porn. Why is that?
Do you know what I think it is, is that if you love women, women
being the most womenly maternal creatures that they can be is
probably. Less than that of mummy issues.
Better help, better help. Use our code and let's say.
For 10% of your mummy issues, yeah, but I but it's always you
know what? It's sick and twisted, but from
as young as I can remember. Really.
Even as a kid? Yeah.
Yeah, like, like I remember finding it hot if I got told the
teacher was going on maternity leave.
Really. Fuck off Yeah, that is mummy
issues that. But I don't have money issues,
probably do babe, I don't I've got.
Everyone's got mummy issues. No, no, because you've seen me
and my mum too, yeah. No, I know, but you also
wouldn't crawl out of her ass until you're about 16, so I
feel. Because she was my best mate.
Yeah, it's a bit of Gypsy Rose and there was nothing wrong with
that fat dog. No, don't actually do my mum
dirty like that because I've got.
It's not about your mum. It is.
Because she was saying I've got mummy issues.
She's. Done anything wrong?
It's just that I think everyone's born with some weird
Freudian mummy issue daddy issue thing.
They just are because the dynamic are being raised by some
means. I want to continue to find, oh
there was another, that woman as well that walked past us
yesterday when we were getting healthy in the morning.
With the sunglasses on, with the long blonde hair.
Oh my God. And she was pushing a pram and I
was like, like, I want to be in that pram.
Maybe it is my issues push me around.
No, I wanted. To be the pregnant body as well.
There's something really hot about it.
What is wrong with us? Like honestly, what is actually
wrong with us? And I know that glow.
Though isn't there there is that.
Maybe it's pheromones, Maybe they give us a smell.
Yeah, but also, why watch the porn then if it's all about the
pheromones? Well, that's why some make that,
won't we? Because I have never done that.
No. And I've never like googled it
or anything. No, I'm going to.
Just find it really attractive. Can no, but then I don't like
the idea of anyone fucking a pregnant woman.
Oh, I do. Do you?
Yeah. Oh, no, I don't.
So for me, that feels wrong. I think they're really, really,
really hot and that beautiful. But I would feel so wrong
shagging a pregnant woman. Oh no.
If. She was really, really far gone.
I wouldn't like it, but anything up to six months is absolutely
fine. No, I'd be aware.
I'd be aware that there was a baby in that stomach whilst I
was fucking heard that. Oh no.
No, see, I don't mind that. No, I hate it live.
Hold on, hold on. I've got to call live in here to
ask her this question. Would you fuck a pregnant woman
speaking to the mic? No, no, you would.
No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't either.
She would. Yeah, I know.
You got sick. Fascination.
It's not sick. I know I'm not on my own here.
Give it back to Liv Hang. On I'm going to ask into the
group chat quickly. Do you think let's, do you think
that pregnant women are hot though?
Yeah, yeah, of course they're attractive.
But the idea of fucking a pregnant woman fills with down
on someone who's like 8 months taste.
A bit of taste, a bit of baby juice.
Imagine. Imagine it starts kicking
because it's enjoying it. So much.
I've just asked Polly and Leo in the group chat as well.
Oh, and I'm going to ask in the lesbians chat.
Yeah, I know Leanna will. I know Leanna will of.
Course Leanna will. I'm surprised that you don't get
turned on there with my little endometriosis bloat that I get
my little bloaty belly. How do you know I don't?
Oh. I don't.
Oh. Best come back straight away.
She says no, I'm calling the police.
She says no, then there is something profoundly wrong with
humanity just whilst our friends are replying. 22 girls have said
yes they would fuck a pregnant woman in the group chat so it's
2 so far. Me and Liva very much so.
To be outnumbered. So yeah, so there's three so far
waiting on Beth and Leanna Polly's in Singapore.
I know Polly would do it. Polly.
Would Polly 100% worth? I'm answering for Polly.
It's fine. So that's another one.
So that's 4/2. I might just ask the straight
girls as well just to see if they say anything.
Just whilst we're waiting on responses, this is a shout out
to everyone that if you get a random wave from Freya on
TikTok, she's not actually trying to say hello to you.
Sending unknowingly waves to people are in my sleep.
In her sleep, on TikTok and. People come back and go, hey,
it's awful because like. As I'm falling asleep, do you
know what I once sent my ex boss?
A video of mermaid hunting a mermaid conspiracy.
I love mermaid hunting tickets but.
Then he went back and was like, how?
Really interesting and I was like I'm sorry I sent this to
you in my sleep to be fair. Knowing you, you could have sent
them a lot, a lot worse. I know I could have.
So I my full blessing is really. I do love mermaid hunting TikTok
though. Yeah.
Oh my God. So like mermaids existing,
right? I, by the way, 100% believe
mermaids exist. Like we haven't identified like
what 98% of the ocean mermaids definitely exist, that there's
been like video recordings of people in like India who go like
fishing in the dark and stuff. And they have like torches where
there's been like video footage captured of like, it's creepy as
hell of like a. Hand that's almost like a.
Hand, but a fish hand. It's insane.
But then also, yeah, it's not the type of mermaids.
That and a lot of like skeletons.
Have come up on beaches of mermaid tails, yeah.
I'm I'm obsessed. I.
Want to see where the? People are.
I don't want to see that. That's the type of.
Mermaid, that right there. I'm like, Ariel, what the fuck
is? Ariel, what the fuck is this
creature that's just I would love.
To reincarnate as a demonic mermaid.
You are a demonic mermaid. Because I don't want to be a.
Nice one. I want to be Ariel and I want to
have, Beth actually replied with.
A voice note. OK, right, pop it to the mic.
I think I would have to have feelings for the pregnant woman
in order to have sex with them. That makes sense.
That's my answer. I agree with that, but that's
different. No it's not.
I'd fuck you. Being a pregnant.
Woman. But Rhiannon also said depends
on the woman. In question.
Interesting. My requirement is they.
Have to be hot, yeah, and that's it.
But they are automatically. Hotter because they are
pregnant. Yeah, I know.
So whereas. Yeah.
Whereas my standards are usually a certain certain out of 10, it
would be a certain certain out of a bit less than that.
How many points do you reckon it gives them +3?
2 +2 OK. It's a + 2.
But no, no, no, because. You would.
No, this is where you're going to annoy me because you're like,
oh, I'd shag you if you were pregnant.
Yeah, but you weren't saying about that.
You were saying about how you find it weird about, like, the
baby being there. I get that it is a bit weird
that the baby is there. Now that I'm thinking about.
It because I'm going to know the baby.
But not going to be. My fucking baby is.
It if I was fingering you and you were.
Pregnant. Yeah, it would be your baby,
unless you used my egg, but it still be some of your DNA.
So it would be your baby as well.
That I'm going to then meet the baby.
I'd rather have a one night stand.
I'd rather have a one night stand with a woman where I'm
never going to look the child in the eye.
No, that feels worse. No, I'm sorry, it's not so.
Yeah, all of that being. Said basically, we want to know
if you'd fuck up. And do you have homoerotic
relationships? And how have they gone right?
Baby Horror Story. Time.
Have you got it? No Liv's got.
It Liv's got it, Liv's got everything.
Liv's everyone's obsessed with Liv at the moment.
Like on my Instagram, on my TikTok, Liv is single, but Liv
is. Quite emotionally damaged from
her previous relationship. Yeah, better help.
Use code LSU for 10% off. So I mean she's not a damaged.
Person Liv is actually the most normal person, like lesbian
unproblematic person I have ever met in my whole life.
She's you are a golden style for that.
But you're emotionally damaged because of the X, not because
you've got emotional problems. OK, so everyone's going to be
very happy that this is today's Horror Story because it's the
com, the com, it's Com Chronic It is.
It's come, It's Come Chronicles Part 2.
So if you don't remember, let me remind you, make sure you're not
eating right now. The Come Chronicles was the
Horror Story we read out a few weeks ago.
Where the poor girl. Went out to get a drink.
For her girlfriend and her girlfriend's gay best friend.
And when she came home, the gay best friend left her and her
girlfriend started to have sex. She got a salty taste in her
mouth because the girlfriend had fucked the gay best friend while
she was out getting them a drink and it was wholly traumatising.
We did say that we needed like what happened after in more
detail. Did she leave her number?
No she did. Such a shame.
If she's ever in the UKI want to get her on.
Poor girl, so. Being the legend that she is.
She's come back with Part 2. Good morning, ladies.
I take it that S has not sent in an explanation for her decisions
regarding the Com chronicles. I can't say I'm surprised that I
am a little disappointed. Oh yeah, because the girlfriend
listens to the podcast. Oh yes, sorry, I thought she'd
been. She's in you for a second.
Obviously she's not come forward.
Which you can't blame her, can you?
Really. I wouldn't help myself for that.
No, I was curious. To hear her side.
Without having to reach out on my own.
But Oh well. Some new information I've
received from a close friend who heard the LSE episodes about my
experience has just arrived and I figured I would relate to you
just in case you're at all personally interested.
Very personal. Oh God, this is even better than
I could have expected it. Not us.
Now single. Handedly unsurfacing trauma
within friendship groups. Yeah, around the other side of
the fucking world. Iconic girls keep listening to
this podcast. We can keep getting sponsors and
keep doing this. One of my friends who was a part
of my ex and I shared friendship group got some tea.
Apparently S&M had a short lived fling after the affair because
when I kicked her out she went to live with him.
What the fuck it didn't. Last long because.
Let's be honest, dating the cheater after they cheat never
lasts. No any whore I've come spelt CUM
to find out that the fling was so short lived because M isn't
the monogamous sort and didn't want to commit to relationship
with S. Also is it M gay?
I'm so. Confused, resulting in her
having to. Find another place to live, I
don't know where though. Karma is a cunt.
Also the details of the traumatic incident were never
shared by her to anyone and the only reason our shared friends
knew was because I disclosed it over many many bottles of red.
This unintentionally but also sort of intentionally on my
part, resulting in her being excluded from my mutual friends.
Good. To be honest, I think it's like
quite fair enough because this is very rogue behaviour.
I feel bad that she lost her support group even though she
hurt me. Yes she brought it on herself
but no one deserves to be outcast over a mistake I guess,
which is also fair. Like people do make mistakes.
It is a tough one. People don't always make
mistakes. Like that, but then going to
live with him was. Bad.
It was intentional. I have mixed emotions on the
subject. If you couldn't tell, my toxic
side is absolutely lathering in her downfall, but the empathetic
side of me. Feel sorry for her.
That would be me. So be me.
This would so be me. From my knowledge, she still
lives in Philadelphia and appears to be trucking along.
Anyway, I digress and we leave it on this note in case the LSE
group was curious. This is over the info that I
have at this time. Maybe if I ever take up my dream
trip to London, I will e-mail again and you can ask me all the
questions you want. She can come to the studio,
sweetheart, you. Can sit down and talk to you, as
always with love. And pride, that is.
Wow, I can't believe that she moved in with him afterwards
that that's fucking I know they were best friends.
But The thing is, let me give my exam like my kind of opinion on
this. If I'd done that with my best
friend and it caused me my relationship, I'd be so
traumatised by the association that person, I couldn't, I
wouldn't be able to look them in the eye.
I'd be around them for at least six months until I'd like got
over it. So the fact she cheated with
him, lost her girlfriend and then moved in with him, she
probably thought it's already so.
Bad. So no, I couldn't.
No. That would I would feel really
like she doesn't sound like she's got any empathy really if
I don't think. She was that bored and I think.
She had feelings for him, yeah, and tried it and then realised
very quickly, fuck, I don't have feelings for him.
What was I thinking? Well, especially because she
said that he's not the. Monogamist type.
So clearly she was ready to be in a relationship with him by
the sounds of things, but he wasn't able to give that and she
wasn't happy with him being non monogamous.
Yeah, very interesting, very interesting.
But I am very. Satisfied with the Part 2 of
that because it's it's actually answered a lot of questions that
I had and I feel like justice has been served.
I hope the girl that done The Dirty is now fine.
No one wants prolonged unhappiness for everyone.
But I am also glad that the girl that wrote in has got her bit of
karma and everyone can move the fuck on with their lives,
including me. Only good things coming for.
You coming for you Anyway, guys, we love you.
We're off. We'll see you on next week's
episode. We're off to.
Go and get some pizza. We are some.
Beers, we're going to see you on next week's.
Episode we're going to be much bigger, better and involved
people because we'd have started therapy.
Absolutely love you. Bye.
Bye and see you next week. See you next week's guys.
Bye.