1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 I'm so bored of people thinking I don't know how to. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Obviously I do. I've shagged women. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 You've almost shagged. I've almost. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:21,780 Shagged you? Hello everyone, Hello lesbians, 5 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:23,700 Welcome to the Lesbian Supper Club podcast. 6 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:26,220 I'm grinning from ear to ear right now because I'm just 7 00:00:26,220 --> 00:00:31,380 looking at this pink person that is just sat there in leather. 8 00:00:31,380 --> 00:00:36,760 It's kind of like half dominate. Yes, half what is, which we will 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,320 all be able to see. Actually as well, because this 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,880 is the first fully filmed recorded episode of the Lesbian 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,840 Supper Card podcast that's going to be available everywhere, 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,360 every to watch us as well as listening to us. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Which everyone wants to watch this little pink. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,680 Yeah, so. You better be listening and then 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,840 going home and watching as well. Yes, I don't want the listener 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,680 views to drop. So you're going to say going 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,680 home and doing something else there? 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,840 You can do something else if you want. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,440 That's what I don't know. Doesn't hurt me, but I want you 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,760 to listen and then go home and watch because if if the listens 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,520 drop, we'll stop doing it. Yeah, stop it threat from me. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,880 She has to listen to everything twice. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Yeah, yeah. Which I don't. 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,320 There's nothing wrong with that. We listen to songs on repeat. 25 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:15,960 Taking new information each time. 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,360 I've listened to your songs a million times. 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,920 Anyway, need I even introduce the first ever guest that we had 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,480 on the Lesbian Suffolk Club podcast, the amazing Beth 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,160 McCarthy? She's bad. 30 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,960 Nearly a year to the date. Just crazy weird. 31 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:35,440 Yeah, because I feel like so much has happened. 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,080 It's been insane. And you know when it's such a 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 cliche to be like that feels like it was yesterday, but it 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,880 was also a year ago. No, that feels to me because so 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,760 much has happened like it was three years ago. 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,040 It's so it feels like AI feel like it feels like. 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Ages ago. But then when I think about the 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,240 actual recording itself and sitting in that studio with you, 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,320 that doesn't feel too long. Ago. 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Oh, see, for me it does. I think I was a bit drunk. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,600 I think we're all a bit. Do you? 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Remember how much tequila we met? 43 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,400 We had quite a bit of tequila and I'm thinking back and I was. 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Actually, I was a bit wobbly in that episode. 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,039 No, but I was so nervous. I had never done a podcast 46 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:09,840 before. Just like there was the first 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 time we'd ever picked up a mic. And obviously thank God for you 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,320 being there because I felt like it gave us something like kind 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,280 of structure wise to like ask you. 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Questions. I also think though, because it 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,280 wasn't round by us at the time and the people at the time were 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,400 really great but had a different, a slightly different 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,040 outlook or vibe as to what they. Remember we had the script on 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,760 it. And I was almost too scripted 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,840 for us and I think it's just. Now we're completely unscripted, 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,560 which is great because I feel like that's what's going to get 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,720 us into trouble one day. And I know you are shitting 58 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,600 yourself just a little bit today because you usually. 59 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Have to do this, as we've said before, the exposure has been so 60 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,640 constant now I don't think we can say or do that to be. 61 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,920 Fair. I mean, this time last year it 62 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:54,080 was an entirely. Different. 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Might I just say the glow up that you've had since this time 64 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 last year is insane. Not only looks wise because 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,600 that's all I'm focusing on. You're an ugly little fucking 66 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,320 rat. But no ugly but the whole 67 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,480 progression of your career you have blown up massively. 68 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,320 You were already doing well. I remember at that time being 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,240 she's already doing really well. Like this is great, but now in 70 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,000 comparison to then is insane. So yeah, I'm going to let you 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,520 kind of like introduce yourself. So like, So what has happened 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,840 honestly? How did that happen? 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,720 It's, it's funny because it's, you don't like put a timeline on 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,560 it until there, there is one like in front of you. 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 And this is actually a really good way to do that because 76 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,960 obviously when I came and did the podcast, it, it was just an 77 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,480 entirely different like beast, I guess to to what it is now. 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,680 And I guess, you know, the release of this EP socials were, 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,920 you know, really took it for me because I started the the what 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,960 do you call it series with you guys as well. 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,360 It's shit. Yeah, we've done the. 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Worst one of the second. Yeah, first I posted. 83 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,680 It was the outside of cock, and bottle wasn't. 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,520 It summertime, let's start the summer. 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,400 Yeah. And that kind of really start 86 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,560 because that was never really meant to be an ongoing series. 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,600 It was just, you know, an idea to to try and shoehorn some 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,360 promotion of my song. Yeah. 89 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,600 And then that just blew up. Like, that's done. 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,279 That's probably a couple million views now. 91 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,840 That How many times do you get people going? 92 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:25,480 Why do you call the tattoo a bit a bit annoying now, isn't? 93 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,680 It honestly, it's too real. Like let's fucking. 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Listen than I am. I walk down the street and 95 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,000 someone, like someone will just shout it at me. 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Really. No, but to be fair, you can't 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,040 really go Incognito and. You also can't blame them 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,760 because you shout it in, I do, so you're giving people. 99 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,160 So as soon as it doesn't. Do essentially though, you know, 100 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:49,280 I ask first, you did I think this people, I think people get 101 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,040 confused. I think they think that, like, 102 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,920 my interviews are just run up to people. 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 And because there's been a bunch of stuff where it's like, oh, 104 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,560 like she's like grabbing them. I'm like, yeah, because usually 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,280 the people in the videos are friends or like, yeah, people 106 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,600 who have seen me and already feel like they know me. 107 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,720 And we've already had an exchange beforehand which 108 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,000 established but this. Is the fucking Internet the 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Internet? Somebody will find a problem 110 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,400 with literally anything. Anything. 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Right, I'm gonna get onto that. Yeah, I know that you know this 112 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,480 very well. So like, for people who haven't 113 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,280 listened to our first ever episode and don't know who you 114 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,960 are, can you give us a very brief introduction of who you 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:23,960 are? So. 116 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,760 My name is Beth McCarthy, and I'm asking no, I'm a artist. 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,800 A pop, pop, rock, we'll call it. We'll say that's the genre 118 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,160 artist. And I'm queer. 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,960 I'm bisexual. Two separate words. 120 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:44,240 I'm bisexual because you say goodbye to having any kind of 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,040 sex at all. Never. 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Had it in the first place. Never had it in the first place. 123 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Yeah. And I basically this year 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,120 released, well, I'm releasing an EP which is all about being 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,760 queer. It was deliberately for that's 126 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,200 called I don't know How to Talk to girls. 127 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,960 It's out on the 14th of Feb on Valentine's Day, so. 128 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,440 That's coming very. Soon, Yeah. 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,800 So, yeah. And that's that's kind of me. 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 And I guess this year's growth has been. 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,360 Yeah. Been a really significant one 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,880 like I've had little moments before I had a song called She 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Gets the Flowers, which, which kind of was the original one 134 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,880 that really went off and then released an EP after that. 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,320 And it's kind of just been gradually growing. 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,400 And then I, you know, with the help of social media and, and I 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,560 kind of, I guess I've it accidentally become an 138 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,120 influencer in a way that wasn't, it wasn't intentionally. 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 You have tried sadly right? But yeah, you have to be. 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,880 It's not a choice anymore. Which is so shit for musicians. 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Yeah, and I think I'm fortunate because I quite enjoy it. 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,200 And you're good at it. You've got that natural thing, I 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,880 think because you've done the presenting before, right? 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Yeah, So. And I just like people and I 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,680 think, and I, I am a consumer of social media as well. 146 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,280 I think that helped. Like I watched stuff and I'm 147 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:03,000 like, that's what I want to watch. 148 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,160 So I'm going to try and do that and and that's kind of what 149 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 started it. And I think you just think when 150 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 you were pushing music, like music is so much bigger than the 151 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,040 song. You know, it goes into so many 152 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,000 stories and like there can be one song and that covers so many 153 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,720 different stories. And I think being able to 154 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,320 connect with people who relate to that on all sorts of 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,520 different levels, which is why, you know, the interviews work 156 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,360 really well, is because you're not just getting this story 157 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,880 through lyrics, like you're also starting to understand it 158 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,960 through like other people and interactions. 159 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,320 And that's been really nice. It's been really nice to see 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,240 and. Do and I feel like like back in 161 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,840 the day, like artists like Lady Gaga, for example, would kind of 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,640 portray that via masses of budget of a music video, right? 163 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,640 And there'll be scripts of these music music videos, whereas a 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,320 lot of artists don't have the luxury to do that. 165 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,800 But what is free is your mobile phone recording and creating 166 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,600 that narrative for yourself. So you've done that really well, 167 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,400 I think as well for your latest CP that you're well, that you're 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 releasing kind of like songs here and there, giving us the 169 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 bits of it that is a journey in itself. 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,320 So like you were saying to me before about the journey of 171 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,480 figuring out your sexuality and then also like relationships, 172 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,560 etcetera. Yeah. 173 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,320 And which is put you on this like massive, like lesbian queer 174 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 map, right? It's like the radar of lesbians. 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,120 We've all heard the pronoun she in your songs and then people go 176 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,840 fucking running. OK, exactly. 177 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,559 But not only that, the songs are actually really fucking good and 178 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,960 people can relate to it. So like, give us like the back 179 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,240 story from the first song to the last song on the EP. 180 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Like how does that work in terms of what you've been through? 181 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,559 Basically, can I ask a? Question before that, because I 182 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,520 remember after we recorded last year, you actually did go into a 183 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,520 bit of a stagnant phase. Yeah, internally as well. 184 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,160 I'm not saying it happened externally, but I remember 185 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,240 having conversations with you where you were like, well, I'm 186 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 like starting to panic. And then suddenly it went from 187 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,160 zero to 100 in that panicking phase. 188 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Did you write this album or? No, it was already already in 189 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,600 the process of being written so. Oh shit, OK, I. 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Don't know how to start to girls. 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,240 It's like the lead track and that's just come out a few weeks 192 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,720 ago and that's been written for like 2 1/2 years. 193 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,040 That's all. I'm so sick by the. 194 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Way. Thank you. 195 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,720 It's and The thing is that one was always the one for me. 196 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Like I wrote it and I was like this is going to be. 197 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Further based. When I heard you played that 198 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,840 live for the first time I thought fuck. 199 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,160 That's when you know me. You were like, that's the song. 200 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,360 That's the ticket, yeah. And I was like, this is my 201 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,200 favourite child immediately and needs to happen. 202 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,440 And the originally I'd written it, I played it a gig and it 203 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 wasn't even produced yet. Like we literally just boshed it 204 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,040 out in a really. Close shot gig. 205 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Way. No, it was before. 206 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,880 There was 1 before. That it was can't remember. 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 I think it was an Anti Valentine show that I did. 208 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Was it the one where Kathy performed? 209 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember it. Maybe that just ago that you did 210 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:58,160 it. Yeah. 211 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 And we basically it was just, you know, all the other songs 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,040 have tracks and stuff and that hadn't even been produced yet. 213 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,640 So it was just like me kind of trying it on the guitar and just 214 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,160 played it out. It went down so well. 215 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,280 And I was like, this is the one. So I'm going to get through this 216 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,800 EP that I'm doing at the minute and then I'm putting that out 217 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,560 And I had all of these ideas and I was like, I'm going to. 218 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,960 So I don't know How to Talk to Girls was actually going to be 219 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,520 the original interviews I was going to. 220 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Go out and. Be on a mission to find out how 221 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,960 to talk to girls. Asking a bunch of people. 222 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,200 I'm gonna do that. I've got these different things 223 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,720 that I think will work. I was gonna do a podcast. 224 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,960 I was gonna do a queer event because I just started going to 225 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,600 some queer events. But I was like, the whole song 226 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,240 was inspired by going to a queer event and feeling like I was at 227 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,720 school. This go because me and my friend 228 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,400 were there I was 2 bisexuals and we were like Oh my God I don't 229 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,880 know how to talk to girls like we're just. 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,960 How do you fucking approach? Them how do I approach them? 231 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,840 Like and everyone felt the same in the room. 232 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,200 So that's why I wanted to write that song. 233 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 So I was like, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. 234 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,840 And then someone I was working with at the time was like, but 235 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,640 this is a lot of stuff for one song and what you're going to do 236 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,160 after that, you know, like you've got, you've got a lot. 237 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,080 Of a whole EP, yeah. But you've got a whole thing to 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,520 do after, and if you're putting all of this marketing effort 239 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,480 into one song, you're probably going to put yourself in a bit 240 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,320 of a whole. So I was like, very true, need 241 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,960 to do an EP. But if it's an EP, it needs to 242 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 be called I Don't House Talk to Girls because that's the lead 243 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,400 single. So it has to be called that. 244 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,760 And it can't be called that unless all the songs make sense 245 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,400 with that title. So then I was like, right, I 246 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,040 guess I'm writing like a concept. 247 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Like a journey, yeah. About my journey being queer, 248 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,440 whatever that looks like. And originally I was like 249 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,000 starting with I don't know how to talk to girls, being the 250 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,080 first one and then going from there because I was like, well, 251 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,720 that's why you start. It's not really knowing how to 252 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,640 talk to girls. But then I had to go, no, I 253 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,440 think it should be in the middle. 254 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,840 I want to give it some space before I release that song. 255 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,480 So I'm going to write in like the journey before not knowing 256 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,400 how to talk to girls and then after, yeah. 257 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,120 So that's where what do you call it came from, which was the kind 258 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,280 of discovering your label people and where you fit because you 259 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,800 know, I'm a very proudly always have been someone who was 260 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,840 attracted to multiple genders. Haven't known exactly what to 261 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,800 call that because I think I've spoken about it before. 262 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,760 But the word bisexual is a weird one or has been a weird one to 263 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 me because it doesn't always make sense with the way I feel 264 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,840 like there's I can be talking to someone who is like, I identify 265 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,440 as bisexual and I'm like, great, I'm not you and you are not me. 266 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:38,400 Like we are not the same, but you are equally as valid to be a 267 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,760 bisexual. Your feelings, yes, it's just 268 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,680 I'm not. That we're not the same kind of 269 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:43,360 bisexual. Yeah. 270 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 And then there is almost something with that. 271 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:48,280 Spectrums within the spectrum of sexuality, right? 272 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,480 There's like spectrums of bisexuality. 273 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,880 There's spectrums of like being a lesbian, the spectrums of 274 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,800 being just queer. Generally, it doesn't mean 275 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,520 anymore is less than another. But yeah, it's like you and you 276 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,000 don't. And just because as well, we're 277 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 all part of the same community. And I think it's so fucking 278 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,840 important for everyone in this community to like stand up for 279 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,440 each other and support each other. 280 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,400 But like, it's also just fine to fucking disagree with people and 281 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,080 not get on with people in this community as well. 282 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,040 And this is what? Again, the cancel culture, is 283 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,200 that what you're going to say? No, I was going to say what she 284 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,920 was saying, what Beth was saying about meeting another bisexual 285 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,520 person and being like, actually we don't just have anything in 286 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,080 common as not even just our sexuality because your, your 287 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 definition and your experience of bisexuality is so fucking 288 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,240 different to mine. Well, this is it. 289 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,240 And and also a bunch of, you know, conversations around 290 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,840 gender have happened since the world, yeah, exactly came into 291 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,840 place. So then you're like, well, what 292 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 does that look like? Because then you go, OK, am I 293 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,800 pansexual? Because I'm not saying that I 294 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,200 would. Yeah, because I would 295 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,840 definitely. Date a non binary yeah assigned 296 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,800 female at birth. Exactly for sure. 297 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,560 So it's sort of like, OK then and what does that change your 298 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:58,560 label? And it honestly like it's got to 299 00:13:58,560 --> 00:13:59,600 support. I don't care. 300 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,440 I like a label, just I personally do not care. 301 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,840 And I feel like I've been not pushed into because I'm quite 302 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,080 happy to do it. But because of the platform that 303 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,000 I have, I have started to use the term bisexual more to 304 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,960 represent of. What I think is important, 305 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,680 right? Because I think this is where we 306 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:22,840 feel about lesbian as well. Do I care about the word itself? 307 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Not really. Do I care about the association 308 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,720 and the history and the like fight that we've all had to go 309 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,960 through on multiple different levels? 310 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Yes. And that's why I push it. 311 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? 312 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 It's not even really a personal agenda either from that 313 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,040 perspective. Would it be the same reason why 314 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,520 you would push, you know, saying that you're bisexual, you know, 315 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,080 whether they're changes or not? Because there are a load of 316 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,800 people who feel the same way that you do that don't have the 317 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,920 confidence. Yeah. 318 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 And they need to know what that looks like. 319 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Yeah, for a minute there I was like I'd way. 320 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,400 I don't, ah, stop trying to label me. 321 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,400 I just, I didn't like it because you were. 322 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Fully in your lesbian. I was. 323 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Well, it's like I thought you were. 324 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Gonna stay there. You, you really did. 325 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,920 You're really shocked when I did not stay. 326 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,520 That I mourned that for a bit, I'm not gonna lie. 327 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,320 So. That when I started they man, 328 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,200 I'm like, I don't. Guys I have always been by and 329 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 like felt like my child telling me they were straight. 330 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Like if I don't have a gay kid get fuck out of my household. 331 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,560 You're on the street, but. I think, but this was actually a 332 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,720 huge part of because because I went through, you know, there 333 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,640 was a there was a long period of time where I wasn't attracted to 334 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,680 a man for a bit and I. Miss her? 335 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Would I miss that girl? But like I'd, you know, I'd come 336 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:45,040 from from York, which is like a very small northern city that 337 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,880 like I moved to London from there was basically no queer 338 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,760 women in, in, you know, in York. So I'd moved to London. 339 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,440 There are also more queer. Cheryl down the road then that 340 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,720 own the local bar. But our Shaz, you know, I'd like 341 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,880 we it wasn't as accessible and it wasn't something that I could 342 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,200 explore. And also I was living at my 343 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,880 parents house. So like there's really so far 344 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,000 you can go in that vicinity. I managed it. 345 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:19,120 You know it's but you're a lesbian and also you don't care. 346 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,280 You're in Windsor, you can get a I'm a. 347 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Brave. Lesbian. 348 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Yeah. But it was like also I was bi 349 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,040 and therefore very much validly attracted to men. 350 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Also easier option. Obviously you just don't. 351 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040 And that is part of the thing with with being, you know, the 352 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,280 compet thing. I moved to London. 353 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,280 That was my kind of moment where I was like, I'm I'm actually 354 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,440 able to explore my queerness and that's amazing. 355 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,080 So, you know, I did that and I was still, I was very casually 356 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,920 doing everything. So I was still seeing men 357 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,120 casually doing, but it wasn't, that wasn't the first thing on 358 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,480 my mind. Like if I went out, I was like 359 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,760 looking at women and that was where I was at. 360 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,000 And obviously that then was like, oh, what then? 361 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,200 What is my label now? Because this has been this for 362 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,319 ages and I think a lot of people. 363 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:06,680 Do that anyone depending on their label. 364 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,880 When you get an answer freedom, you fucking run to the thing 365 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,680 you've not had freedom for. Freedom. 366 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,160 Yeah, Yeah. So that is probably why you were 367 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,680 just like women, women, women, women. 368 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Because it's like fucking telling a kid that they can't 369 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,599 have chocolate chocolate and then suddenly you put them in 370 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:22,359 Charlie in the Chocolate Factory, they're gonna they 371 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,839 fucking end up hiding within. Bags of packets of Galaxy 372 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,960 chocolate. Underwear This isn't your 373 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,040 therapy session in. Factually OK cuz I need 374 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240 everything that I can. Get I've done therapy, I've been 375 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,120 doing therapy and yeah, yeah, I have been struggling. 376 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,520 So going back to your sorry, yeah. 377 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,040 So went through the label thing, yeah, just to kind of complete 378 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 that because I think it's just an important conversation. 379 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,760 The label thing at the end of the day, your label should fit 380 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,160 you. You shouldn't be fitting a 381 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,040 label. So what? 382 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,600 And and they can change and I think there's so much gate keep 383 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,360 penis around going. But but they were this before 384 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:05,520 and you were this and now you're this and it's like so like also 385 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 no, like I could be this other thing and you just got that 386 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,520 completely wrong. But also maybe yeah, like 387 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,560 there's a it goes. People go from straight to not 388 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,600 straight to could be straight again, you know, no and there's 389 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,080 no in changing things because people grow feelings are 390 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,280 different every you can't live for anyone else, right? 391 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Exactly. Live for yourself. 392 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,200 But the bisexual thing has become more of a just solidified 393 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,640 label that I'm using now because I, because of this whole, you 394 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,560 know, I've written an EP, which I'll go into more, but it's all 395 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,840 about my experiences with women, that it's not about my 396 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,200 experience as a bisexual, and it includes men and women. 397 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,800 The point was, it's about me figuring out that I like women. 398 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Yeah, I liked men as well throughout this whole thing. 399 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,480 But all the songs are about my experiences with women. 400 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Yeah, because they would. Do many other EPS and many other 401 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,760 albums and many other songs that you're going to write that are 402 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,520 going to be about your experiences with men and 403 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,160 experiences as bisects. I've written so many songs about 404 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,680 men. Like I have had long term 405 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480 relationships with men. They've they've, they've entered 406 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,360 enough of my songs. Like let give me 5 songs about 407 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,240 women and let me have them without having to constantly 408 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,080 explain that I also like men because nobody, nobody was 409 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,640 telling me to also include women while I was singing about men. 410 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,160 Like no one was saying, hey, you should also like just let 411 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,280 everyone know that at the same time as like you were seeing 412 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,920 these men, you were also like having wet dreams about women. 413 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,320 No one's telling me to do that but. 414 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Also, is that because of the patriarchy though? 415 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Probably it is because. Listen here. 416 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,600 By women, always expected to be with a man. 417 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Yeah, by men, always expected to be with a man. 418 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,320 What's the fucking common denominator? 419 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Exactly, exactly. And it's like sometimes it just 420 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,560 doesn't include you guys, you know? 421 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,120 Much not about. You so a big reason why I feel 422 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,800 like the bisexual label is one that I am now. 423 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Owning more is because that I've, I've written an EP about 424 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,160 women, people are seeing me being really vocal about women 425 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,760 and, and I'm a bisexual doing that. 426 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,320 And I think as, as you've said, like if you're a woman, you're 427 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,400 expected to be with a man regardless of your, you know, 428 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,880 sexuality. If you're attracted to men, then 429 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,680 that's who you'll end up with. And actually, like I was equally 430 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,120 as bisexual in my quote lesbian era. 431 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,600 I was still just the same amount as bisexual as before, just the 432 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,040 same as as ever. And but you don't see that as 433 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480 much people, people. Will only ever take a surface 434 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,360 level. Yeah, so they'll, they'll read 435 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:44,520 it as what that is, which is why I feel like it's important for 436 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,760 me to continue shouting about being bi because there's a bunch 437 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,400 of them out there where it's like, I don't feel gay enough to 438 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,040 be bi because I have a boyfriend and I'm like, Nah, you're still 439 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,480 bi, girlfriend. If you think you're bi, then 440 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,720 you're bi. Like that's OK and you know it. 441 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,000 I have, I've been, I've had multiple boyfriends throughout 442 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 being a bisexual and I, I was still very bi. 443 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,480 So, you know, and, and, and then I got out of those and I had 444 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,600 relationships with women and I did also, you know, it, it 445 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,560 doesn't have. You ever when you've been with 446 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,200 men and or women at different times, obviously, or maybe at 447 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,680 the same time, who knows? Have those partners ever had 448 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,240 problems? Because obviously we hear it a 449 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,120 lot in the queer community from lesbians predominantly, which I 450 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:38,080 can't wholly disagree with in terms of it's a sad recurrent 451 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,400 theme where lesbians always say I struggle to get with by girls 452 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,240 because I'm worried they're going to cheat or leave me for a 453 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,800 mad. And we've also had nearly every, 454 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,760 no, actually every single Horror Story we've been sent about a 455 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,160 bye a bye girl has ended that way, right. 456 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560 And I'm not saying that by any. Means I think. 457 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,600 It. Is the compulsory 458 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,960 heterosexuality? And I'm not saying by any means 459 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,600 that is a blanket and should any be taken as any narrative of 460 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760 statistic. What I'm saying is, and we go 461 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,680 back to the girls and say this, it creates a really bad 462 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,640 narrative though for bisexual people, for people to have that 463 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,960 fear and kind of view that that's going to happen. 464 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,400 But at the same time, then when it happens to the person, how 465 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520 can you then say, no, don't worry? 466 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Do you know what I mean? What I was asking there was like 467 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,960 have you had or situation ships or partners or etcetera female 468 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,840 that have had problems with you liking men and vice versa with 469 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,680 being with a man have problems with you liking or being 470 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,480 attracted to women or no? Yes, I've definitely run into 471 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:47,880 with the being with women and their being like a insecurity 472 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,680 about men. OK, men, it's funny, right? 473 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,320 There's always AI think I don't know where I sit with it right, 474 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,360 because and every again, everyone is different. 475 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:06,240 Every bisexual person will probably feel differently where 476 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,480 I am quite a different energy probably in my relationships 477 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,160 with women versus my relationships with men. 478 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960 I think I'd probably take a slightly different role or have 479 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,040 done previously. I'm not going to say like that's 480 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 what I do every time, but I definitely. 481 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,080 The relationships are different. Being with a man is 482 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,760 fundamentally different than being with a woman. 483 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,360 So you're not consciously acting differently. 484 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,720 It's just like the relationship. I would be different if if I was 485 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520 being, if I was with a man and if I'm with a woman exactly 486 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,400 because like, yeah, there are just so many things biology like 487 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,520 socially, historically that do feed into our behaviour. 488 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Men and women are different. Like they just are. 489 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,400 Oh my God, they just are. And like that's also fine. 490 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,600 So it's funny because that is a thing and I've had it being in 491 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,680 being with men who are like kind of fine for you to thing with 492 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,360 women. Men are OK to sexualize it and 493 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,400 therefore they find it hot so they don't have as much of a 494 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,520 problem, whereas women don't necessarily find. 495 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,680 It hot some, yes. OK, some may feel insecure, 496 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,120 surely? Some so I've run into like it's 497 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,640 come from a nice place, but it's probably still problematic where 498 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,120 it's like the and I know this for not just from my experience, 499 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,800 but from friends who have had like male partners and in that 500 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 kind of long term relationship, they've discovered that they 501 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,920 also are bi curious or whatever And that partner has sort of 502 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,920 gone, OK, I love you. I can acknowledge that this is a 503 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,600 part of your sexuality that you haven't you haven't explored and 504 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,080 you want to. And so like it does feel 505 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800 different for me because it's something that like I can't give 506 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,080 you. It is a different thing. 507 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,560 Being with a woman is different. And that doesn't I'm not 508 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,320 obviously that can equate to then on the other side, the 509 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:03,160 people who this woman is exploring with quote like then 510 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,760 feeling like an experiment, right? 511 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,680 Which then that that's not good. It's hard, yeah. 512 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Everyone knows that when they're swiping on Hinge, it's always 513 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,240 like couples looking for. But then there is also that 514 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,240 then. But then you go, OK, well, where 515 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,120 is it an experiment? And where is it just like people 516 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,640 being Polly? But then it's gendered 517 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,400 polyamory, right? Because it's like, I'm OK with 518 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,400 us being Polly as long as you're only like getting with women. 519 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,360 But that's not coming from a place because I think it's hot. 520 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,320 I don't want to see it like I don't have to, you know, I'm not 521 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,080 asking you to tell me every detail so that I can get off on 522 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560 it later. It's because so you've never 523 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,040 been able to do that before. And I want to respect your 524 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,680 bisexuality. Like I think it's coming from a 525 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,720 nice place, but like, is it still a bit like, well, but 526 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,440 people are people, so why do you have a problem when it's this 527 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,960 and you don't when it's this? It's hard. 528 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,840 I don't know. I don't know what the right move 529 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,280 is anyway. Labels blah blah. 530 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,400 I'm bisexual. Yeah. 531 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,720 I think the bottom line is though, the good thing is it's 532 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,960 like kind of where we started on that conversation, which is even 533 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,160 if you don't always fully feel represented by that label, even 534 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280 if you don't always fully feel it defines you or doesn't define 535 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,960 you, the point is you using it for a really good thing. 536 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Yeah, can only be good also. The songs are just fucking good. 537 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,320 I know that you've also got like, a bit of like a sexy song. 538 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,560 I do, so I'm on. I'm gonna. 539 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Yeah. So OK, let me just let me just 540 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,400 wait. True, because I feel like I got 541 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,400 really sidetracked on the label conversation there, but that's 542 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 because I found it important. So basically the chronological 543 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,320 journey is the what do you call it? 544 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,440 Is what do I call it? I'm something. 545 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000 I'm definitely not straight, but I don't know which label fits 546 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,560 me. Oh no, rah rah. 547 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,520 And then she's pretty was second and the idea with that is kind 548 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,440 of just the infatuation part of like seeing a girl and being 549 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,600 like, Oh my God, do I want her or do I want to be her? 550 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Like she's just and it's kind of open there meant to be a bit of 551 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,760 a like is. It about a gay girl because when 552 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,200 you're like fine cool, she's pretty cool and I know I'm just 553 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,840 a number yeah. Is it her being like a bit of a 554 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,720 shame open gay woman? Yeah, by woman and then you're 555 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,680 like still kind of in the closet within yourself being like 556 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,360 significantly about. One girl OK, it's it's about 557 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:23,200 yeah, it's my Yahoo DJs yeah Sheba who know this yes. 558 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,320 Oh, OK yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why she's in the artwork. 559 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,920 So she's she's in the artwork and now tattooed on me, which is 560 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,840 actually kind of. So lesbian. 561 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,120 Weird right? But but also I'm tattooed on me 562 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,920 so is it lesbian or is it just narcissistic? 563 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,320 I don't know but both but I wrote it about it because we're 564 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960 really good friends. Nothing ever actually happened 565 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,920 but I like had a big fat crush on her when I first. 566 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Came the songwriter about me. I'm so fucking jealous that it 567 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,400 wasn't me I thought I'm annoyed about. 568 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,760 But she was just really cool and I feel like, you know, she was a 569 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,880 DJ at a lesbian bar and did loads of everybody in here, 570 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,120 yeah, fancied you and you're a bit unattainable. 571 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,680 And I'm sorry, but you could be ugly and be a DJ and fuck like, 572 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,880 I'm sorry. I'm putting it out there so. 573 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,360 True. If you ever want to get on the 574 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,280 shag, go become a DJ. Become a DJ. 575 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,640 Like specifically I feel like though that's only for women 576 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,760 because male DJ's is the opposite way. 577 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Yes, it isn't it. But yeah, so that was that. 578 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,360 It was kind of inspired by that because I was like, like, you're 579 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,400 just used to walk in there and, you know, everybody wants you 580 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,920 and I'm one of those people. So yay, she's pretty. 581 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,360 And then it was OK, I, I do want to be with her. 582 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,680 It's not, I don't want to be her, I want to be with her. 583 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,640 But I don't know how to talk to girls. 584 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,360 And I've already explained that was, you know, from there and 585 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,240 then it's OK, learn how to talk to girls. 586 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,320 So what's the what's the bid after that having? 587 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Sex with girls. Yeah, so finger fun. 588 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Hello, So it's first, best, hottest and it was actually the 589 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960 last one I wrote for this because the fifth one is not 590 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,720 that deep, which is like feet the feelings one the first time 591 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640 getting feelings. I love how you say it's not that 592 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,040 deep and then say it's about feelings. 593 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Yes, because say the sex 1 is deep. 594 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,720 The sex one's deep well. Figuratively speaking, the the. 595 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,480 So because because not that deep. 596 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,640 The whole premise of it is kind of meeting someone and being 597 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,720 like, Oh my God, are you my soul mate or do we just like the same 598 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,800 music? Like it could be it can be good 599 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,480 sex, which I think. Happens a lot. 600 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Also good sex. Can I blur your mind? 601 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Oh my God, I'm in luck. Oh, I'm not. 602 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Especially with women and listen, I have had wonderful sex 603 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,000 with all the genders, so don't I'm not hating on the men. 604 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,720 You know I have got shut up. But that first time with the 605 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360 puppet was. Life changing can. 606 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720 You. Why did? 607 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,640 You say shut up, Beth. Only because I'm personally. 608 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120 You. Feel really upset you feel so 609 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,280 upset by listen, fuck off. Can you do the tequila taste 610 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,920 that line with the fingers. Just do that for me now, because 611 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,480 this you're gonna need them later down there now. 612 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Yeah, it's that you got that tequila taste. 613 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Why don't you let me take those rings off your fingers? 614 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,200 You're gonna need them later. Sorry. 615 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Oh. I have to ask, I've been trying 616 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680 to work that out. Yeah, because everybody thinks 617 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,120 it's the rings that you're gonna need later. 618 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,680 It's the fingers. You're gonna need the fingers 619 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,920 later, so take your fucking rings. 620 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,480 Yes, I. Thought the rings because I was 621 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,360 thinking, well, she's gonna need the rings late. 622 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,920 Yeah, everybody, everybody keeps doing their. 623 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Now fingering rings and I was thinking I'm messing up because 624 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,080 you can actually get rings that vibrate, that vibrate and our 625 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760 textures. I'm getting some, Yeah, that's 626 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040 so great. Completely got the whole. 627 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920 I am. I kind of, I do kind of like 628 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,840 people not really getting it though, because it gives me 629 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480 opportunities coming like, oh hey guys, it's like, it's not 630 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080 the rings that she needs later. And they're like, yeah, you can 631 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760 play on. Also you can be like first time 632 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,000 lesbians putting on a stack of gold rings before going into the 633 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,120 bedroom with a girl and then they're in hospital with a 634 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,440 doctor just. All Now I wonder how many times 635 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,960 that's happened. I bet it's like it's happened a 636 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,040 lot, I bet. Do you know this is the roguest 637 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120 thing that's probably ever going to come out of my mouth? 638 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 It's easier to take the rings off while she's been fingering 639 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,560 her for a little bit because it lubes up your fingers and you 640 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,200 can take them. Off. 641 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Yeah, but you've been there. The cum then drives around the 642 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640 thing, the ring. Yeah, but have you ever been 643 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400 there when you're kind of like midway and then you think, oh 644 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,760 shit, all is said and done? And not everything's attractive 645 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880 anymore. And the next day you look at 646 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,120 your bedside table and your gold wing, your gold wing, your gold 647 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,560 wing, your gold rings are white. It's not all fun and games. 648 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Anymore, it's not when you have to wash, it's the shade. 649 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Do you know what do you know what the queer girls need is 650 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,360 instead of old people putting their teeth into things on the 651 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720 side of. Bed a little sterilising part 652 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,280 the we. Need. 653 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,720 A sterile station? Yeah. 654 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,120 For the rings and finger dipping because no one wants BV. 655 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Do you know what That is so true Because nobody ever thinks about 656 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480 dirty fingers. Dirty fingernails. 657 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,000 And then you get BV. Yes, everyone, like everyone. 658 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,440 No one is immune. We all get it because your 659 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,200 little girlfriend has gone to the toilet and then she's 660 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240 touched the toilet door or whatever. 661 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,720 And then she's fingered you. God, you lot. 662 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,040 You lot your rings on as well. That's going to be your Part 2 663 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600 of that song. It's just to clean your rings 664 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920 and your fingers. To BV. 665 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,120 And then you're going to need it. 666 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880 Nate, as later, is going to be the sterile station that we're 667 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,640 now going to. Create No. 668 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,240 It's a pessary first. Best bacterial vaginosis that's 669 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,640 not get sponsored by Caniston because I bet they pay really 670 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,680 well they. Would. 671 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,560 Every kind of simple life. Anyway, back to this sexy song 672 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760 that you've just made. So unsexy and I don't think I 673 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240 can ever sing a YouTube video. Is really hot. 674 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Thanks, so hot this is It's the era of the first traps. 675 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,480 I'm so glad because you do not understand how bored I am of the 676 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880 entire Internet thinking that I don't know how to talk to girls. 677 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Guys, guys, hear me out. She's actually got chat. 678 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,920 She's got a lot better as well. You've always had no, so this is 679 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,800 the thing. You have always had really good 680 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,880 chat. We've said from the start Beth 681 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960 has always had a thing, like always had a thing. 682 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,760 We've always advocated for this, always had really good chat. 683 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,280 I think the problem was before was that you cracked quite 684 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,840 early, so you wouldn't like hold it for long enough. 685 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,600 Like, no, it's quite easy to crack you. 686 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,240 That's what you've improved on because the chat's always been 687 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000 there. But I think it's the confidence. 688 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,800 Right. You're slightly more confidence 689 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360 the growth. It's because I think The thing 690 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,280 is I don't really take myself very seriously, so I think I've 691 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320 just never had the thing in me to be like, OK, I'm gonna like 692 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,720 stick with the sexy thing. Yeah. 693 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,520 Because it's not really me but but listen like I am not denying 694 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,200 my my gay panic Ness like we've all seen it. 695 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,159 It's it's not fake it's real. However, I do know how to talk 696 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:15,159 to girls because if I didn't like where would the rest of 697 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,199 this EP of oh. You just, I really know how to 698 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,000 talk to girls. I think you're right. 699 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,679 The envisage of what people thought that was was like 700 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,719 literally no idea, no conversation, no chat and 701 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,679 actually I don't know how to talk to girls, is about an AN. 702 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,800 Approaching a woman so. There's gay panic in a script. 703 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:39,320 It's actually, you know what, actually, once I'm talking to 11 704 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,760 like a girl it I'm all right, it's it, but the approaching is 705 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,679 still hot. But I feel like it's that with 706 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,040 a, with a crush, with anyone I don't know like. 707 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,040 I get that with like there's people in our life. 708 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,800 I would be like, I'd get gay panic. 709 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Not overtly outwardly, but in my brain I'm thinking, what am I 710 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,240 going to say now? I think. 711 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,800 It just doesn't help that you get very visually red, do you? 712 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,840 Know what I mean? It doesn't also like alcohol. 713 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,240 Flushes me so much, right? Then you're already give me two 714 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,000 drinks and I'm like, my cheeks are gone. 715 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,360 So it does it. Yeah, it does tell you. 716 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,280 The baby, you're giddy just like me, honey. 717 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640 You love to get giddy and you love to get a little bit silly. 718 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600 And girls are really hot and they are quite intimidating as 719 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,000 well, like women are intimidating. 720 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,920 Before we go on to the questions for Beth, though, I do really 721 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,480 just want to talk quickly about this because what we're talking 722 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,760 about here is a lot of it is about like people's 723 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,840 interpretation, people forming opinions based on very little 724 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,760 information and how amazing yet damaging and awful the Internet 725 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,080 can be. And we were talking about this 726 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640 before we started recording. Don't talk to me because the 727 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,360 Internet. The the hate that I get, the 728 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,800 hate that we get from men being like you're a joy. 729 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,680 It just really doesn't bother me. 730 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,680 What does bother me is when our own community say shit or like 731 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,600 come for us in a really personal way. 732 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,920 But it couldn't be further from the fucking truth if they tried 733 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,840 for it to be but. It's because people think that 734 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,320 they know you though, that's the thing, right? 735 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,120 And a lot of people will do that for you because you do go out on 736 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520 the street, you talk to them, you're very organic for that, 737 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,120 right? So you're very clever at the way 738 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,320 that you do it, but. That and it is real. 739 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,280 The thing is real. But people. 740 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,760 Will believe that that is Beth as an entirety. 741 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,400 Exactly. And that's the thing, it's like 742 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:39,240 it is a real part of me also. Like 0.5% of your life and the 743 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:42,520 same as us with this podcast. It's like everything you hear on 744 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,840 this podcast is 100% authentic, real, who we are. 745 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,520 But this is 2 hours of recording of seven days a week. 746 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,640 Exactly. Also, like, you know, I 747 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,400 mentioned it a little bit earlier when I was talking about 748 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,080 marketing it, It doesn't make sense. 749 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680 People are not, we're not in that era of, of life right now. 750 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,960 It's short form, right? That's where we're at TikTok, 751 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,760 it's reels, that's what's going off. 752 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,240 You get a few seconds to get people's attention. 753 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,360 They don't have time for your life story and, and, or to, to 754 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,120 explain the context of the fact that, oh, hi, this is a song 755 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440 that I wrote 2 1/2 years ago. So actually right now I do know 756 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,280 how to talk to girls, but I'm going to just serve you a song. 757 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,480 Like I can't do that. So it's like it doesn't make 758 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,440 sense. People are fucking exhausting. 759 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680 They really don't think. That, that is, that is the only 760 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,360 thing. They're all things are. 761 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,240 Just chronically online and it's like, I can honestly say never 762 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,760 in my whole entire life have I commented something negatively 763 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,040 on someone's show. Me either. 764 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,360 Why would you do that? I mean I. 765 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,440 Have discussed go and have sex. I've seen something exactly, 766 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,720 literally go. Hobby go go and have sex up 767 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,320 your. Ass I have seen something or 768 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,960 repeatedly seen stuff. But yes I'll send it into the 769 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 group chat and be like what do people think of this? 770 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Right. Which is fine. 771 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080 That's really normal. But I've never gone out of my 772 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,880 way to comment on someone's thing and be like, you're a 773 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,640 piece of shit or I know so much about you from this one clip. 774 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,200 I'm going to say something. Yeah, really awful because I 775 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,080 know everything. Yeah, it is just weird. 776 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,200 People are bored. Do you know what I mean? 777 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,920 Yeah. But on the other side of it 778 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,720 though, it's managed to give you this platform which you never 779 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,840 would have had without it so. Exactly. 780 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,160 And generally people are really nice. 781 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,240 Generally people are nice. I think, you know, again, it 782 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,240 goes back to it's the same conversation location in 783 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,360 circles. It's the same thing as I had it 784 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,320 on a video where I had opened it saying something about being 785 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,720 bisexual and somebody had commented going, oh, if you're 786 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,000 bisexual, then why are all your songs about women? 787 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,880 They're not. But at this point don't have 788 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Such Girls wasn't even out yet. So you had two songs from this 789 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,440 EP, which is about women, and then one song before that was 790 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,520 outwardly about women. Other than that, they're either 791 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,800 not gendered or like about men. So it's like, but you, because 792 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,800 you have seen two videos of me talking to women, that's what 793 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600 you have decided I am. And then that's what you're 794 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,720 going to make that judgement off. 795 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,840 And I think it's just like reminding people that there is 796 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480 so much more than what they see online. 797 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,240 And you could delve back into the depths of forever and you 798 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,520 still wouldn't know the whole story because what I've chosen 799 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,840 to share with you, like I have so much going on and I feel so 800 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,320 strongly. I will die on the hill that like 801 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,440 you have to protect yourself. I don't want the entire world's 802 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,000 opinion on most of my life like it just because I just because I 803 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,080 put some of it on there, it doesn't mean that the world is 804 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,480 owed everything I do and every person that and also has a. 805 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Really scary space. Yeah, and I just don't want it. 806 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,120 It's like if I put it out there, then yeah, you kind of are 807 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080 putting yourself out there to be criticised. 808 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,440 But like I, you know, there was a video, the announcement that I 809 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,960 made, I was in between a session and going somewhere else and I 810 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,240 had my dog with me for this tour that was announced. 811 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,080 I was supporting Katie Bazer on tour. 812 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,320 Oh, yeah, It's going to be really great. 813 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,200 We did a little bit like really simple little video. 814 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,160 And I have a sausage dog who's a little stubborn bastard, right? 815 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,080 And they they like, right, we need to run. 816 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,480 You run off together. And that dog, I have to drag him 817 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,640 everywhere he is. I have to drag him everywhere. 818 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,640 Like Ziggy happens every day of my life. 819 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,120 He gets dragged. He doesn't. 820 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,680 He knows that he's. Also you and that dog are bonded 821 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,240 like. He is treated like a human and 822 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,120 the same siggy that if. Anyone ever came at me? 823 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,720 I go on and I know what you're going. 824 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,680 To say, well, so and there's a, there's AI actually thought it 825 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160 was funny, right? Because he's a tiny dog, he's 826 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,120 fine. He gets a little bit whipped 827 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,640 round when I run. He got a little bit heated, 828 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,680 right? Yeah, but because he refused, 829 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,720 because he refused to run and everyone's like he can't keep 830 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:52,960 up. He's got a little yes he can. 831 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,600 That dog out runs me when he wants to. 832 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,600 So when he's got, when he's gone away. 833 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,200 Also dachhans were literally fucking made to chase rabbits 834 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,120 and things. They are fast ferrets. 3 fucking 835 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560 holes that is. They're literally quit. 836 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,800 It's read to be. Glisten, if I get a Greg sausage 837 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,720 roll and I leave the packet on the side, he's gone. 838 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640 He's gone. I ain't getting him. 839 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,360 I don't know where he's gone Right so. 840 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560 He's think he does. That dog is fine, yeah, but Oh 841 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,360 my God, the comments. Oh that part of dogs that you 842 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,200 know oh you can't drag your dog like that. 843 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,080 Also that dog should be on a harness. 844 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,280 No he shouldn't. His sorry going off on tangent 845 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,720 ear that shows aren't meant to be how. 846 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,640 About take your fucking energy about feeling about animal 847 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,240 welfare and go to a literal charity and do something. 848 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,040 Go do something about it. I think my point with that being 849 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,720 as much as I went on a tangent about my dog because I feel very 850 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,440 impressed about it is that I am so deliberate with what I share 851 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,360 online because that's like, if it's, I don't care if people 852 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,360 come for me, me directly, me, you're ugly, you're this, you 853 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Can't Sing, don't care. I'm doing what I want to do, but 854 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,760 I'm like, I'm keeping elements of my life private because I 855 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,680 don't want them to be up for grabs. 856 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,800 And I like it was a perfect example with one snippet of my 857 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,120 dog being online that people are perceiving in a certain way. 858 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,040 It's like that's really precious to me. 859 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,800 And that is something that is going to make my life worse. 860 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,040 So why would I do it to myself, which is why I am, I'm quite, 861 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,160 you know, private about my private life. 862 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,520 And there's obviously a line like I like the idea of private, 863 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,280 not secret, But why would I want to put up like Pete, you know, 864 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,880 that's my dog. And like people that I care 865 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,240 about what you want me to put this person that like I've just 866 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,960 started dating or I've been dating for all of this time, you 867 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920 want me to show you their lives as well. 868 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,800 So then their lives are also up for grabs. 869 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Like that's, I think that's another thing that I do feel 870 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,400 quite strongly about with like being online. 871 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,440 It's just when if you don't know something about someones life, 872 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,960 it isn't necessarily because they're trying to hide it from 873 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,280 you or keep things a secret, it's because you don't deserve 874 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,840 an opinion on. It all the time, yeah. 875 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560 And you'll have one, probably. Yeah, you might not. 876 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,480 You might be a lovely person who's like, that's nice that 877 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,720 she's living her life like that. Yeah. 878 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960 But there's a fucking load of people who are going to sit 879 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,720 there and be like, it will. I think I'm like, shut up. 880 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,520 Yeah. So that that was my point. 881 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Thank you. No, I completely agree. 882 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560 So we put onto the Lesbian Supper Club Instagram. 883 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,000 If you don't follow us by the way, do it's at Lesbian Supper 884 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Club pod basically saying best coming on the podcast. 885 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,840 What do you want to know? And lots of you have sent lots 886 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600 of questions and obviously I'm just going to pick up the best 887 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,880 one. I'm terrified, but the best. 888 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,200 One the best ones the best ones the best. 889 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,440 Ones it's not even a question, but it's a thank you and it's 890 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920 really made me laugh. Say thank you. 891 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,240 I found out my ex was cheating on me from the back of one of 892 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,600 your videos. So. 893 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,120 Good Oh my God please DM me the the info because I need to know 894 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,920 the key and I know it's none of my business. 895 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160 Sorry I just went off on a massive rant about how things 896 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160 are none of people's business but like I need to know my 897 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,080 business. I need to know to you, OK, 898 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:00,800 right. That one. 899 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,880 I just wanted to get out the way. 900 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Just going to fire through some of the more like the logistical 901 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040 ones. Is she planning a Barcelona gig? 902 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,200 Is she? Oh, not planning, but I love 903 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360 Barcelona, so yeah, it'd definitely be on the. 904 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Counter but we should all do one together. 905 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,280 Her opinion on Jenny Schechter. Yeah, exactly. 906 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,080 That's all that needs to be said It's just a sigh. 907 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,400 Just. A loud sigh and an eye roll. 908 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,040 Necessary, but annoying. You know what? 909 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,280 I mean, does she snore A. Little bit, not a lot, but a 910 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,800 little bit, just a little bit. Usually when I got cold, can't 911 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,080 breathe. What's the most cringe moment 912 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,800 you had when talking to a girl? I've shared this on the 913 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,920 Internet. Actually, it was Long story 914 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,720 short was it was. Yeah, it was the DJ. 915 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,800 And I, yeah, tragically thought that something was going on and 916 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,600 I just really fumble the bag. And I like then lent in, I'd had 917 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,840 too much to drink and we were. And I was like, maybe this is a 918 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,760 vibe. And like right before she got on 919 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,760 a rubber, I like, leaned in and she swerved me for a cheek kiss. 920 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,720 But then The thing is. Was Beth Beth Mccarth. 921 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,760 Right, you know what wouldn't swerve me now? 922 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,920 But. Back then, yeah. 923 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,640 And what I will say very quickly is just exclusive. 924 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,520 That story has an even worse back end, which is that I 925 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,600 invited her to one of my gigs. I also invited my amazing, 926 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,200 beautiful friend Nadia, who again, nothing has ever happened 927 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,400 with. But yes, when I first saw them, 928 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,280 did I fancy them? Yes. 929 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,160 It's not that vibe now, but I mean, I still fancy them in a 930 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,800 friend way. But like I, it was like, oh, 931 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,600 that fit. And then for whatever reason, I 932 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200 invited them both to my gig. Not with any intention of like 933 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,640 I'm gonna try and crack on with both of them at the gig or 934 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,880 anything, but I was like. I do think you felt like they'd 935 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,320 both be in the audience and then be like, oh. 936 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,400 No. Fall in love with me. 937 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,320 Yeah, absolutely. Because that's why I do it, 938 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:51,880 right. Yeah. 939 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,400 And and then anyway. Worked on me. 940 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120 I worked on ME and I've said it many. 941 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,440 Exactly, that's the only time you fancy me is when I was. 942 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,320 You. Always say yeah you. 943 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,760 I have a 10 minute window after I come off stage and then it's 944 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880 gone again, three hours. Brilliant. 945 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,480 Then basically I came off stage. I had like a bunch of people 946 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,960 talking to me after the gig. I could see them both in 947 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,080 separate parts of the bar. And then at one point they, 948 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,360 they, they'd met and I was like, oh, that's, that's cool. 949 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,960 And then, yeah, of course, of course they really got on. 950 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,800 And of course they dated then after that. 951 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,280 And so basically I invited two people that I fancied to my gig 952 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,040 and they ended up dating each other and I got friends over. 953 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,720 A loser. I'm a loser. 954 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,360 I don't know how to talk to girls. 955 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,280 So good. There you go. 956 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Someone said your lyrics are always so relatable, where do 957 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,400 you get your inspiration for them? 958 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,880 Slash your EP so. If we pretty much answered. 959 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,640 We've kind of answered that. But like music, yeah, my life. 960 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,880 But I guess like musically, I do like kind of conversational 961 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,720 lyrics. So it's like the kind of Julia 962 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,920 Michaels, you know, Sabrina Carpenters of the world. 963 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,040 It's, I guess it's in that realm where it's like I like to, if 964 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,760 I'm in a session, if I'm writing a song, I'm like, OK, I want to 965 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040 say that, but in a, in a way that you would say it to your 966 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,160 mate, like on a voice note, not in like a, hey, I'm writing a 967 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,240 lyric. So like like I kind of want to 968 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,240 give it a bit more, if that makes sense. 969 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:17,920 I totally. Get it? 970 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,320 How would you describe yourself in three words? 971 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,040 Pink. I knew that was coming. 972 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,920 Chaotic. Yeah. 973 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,400 Alfie. Alfie. 974 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,640 Yeah, Probably. Gay chaotic. 975 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,160 No, sorry. Pink chaotic. 976 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,840 And Alfie. Yeah. 977 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,840 Yeah, that's quite good. Yeah, someone else said this 978 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,680 one. I don't know why it made me 979 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:41,120 laugh, but it did. How's her ass for love bites? 980 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,320 I don't even know but like. Does that mean like is it a good 981 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,800 bum to give a love? Who? 982 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,480 Sent that we can cut this out is. 983 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,240 It someone who? I'm gonna say their. 984 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,840 Name so OK when my brain was going with that it's like oh is 985 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,760 this a person who's previously given my ass a love bite and 986 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,000 they're trying to like get in there but no I can't say that 987 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,920 Donna Tweedy ever gave my ass a love bite so Donna. 988 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,200 You have got a lovely ass though, so I'll answer that for 989 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,200 you. People do keep asking like 990 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:14,320 European Tour Sweden so. There are going to be some your 991 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,760 updates. I'm I'm announcing a tour. 992 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,640 It'll be next week when this goes out. 993 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,400 So it's there is a tour announcement happening. 994 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000 So keep your eyes peeled. I'm not going to like spoil it 995 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,400 for everyone. But yes, there are going to be a 996 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560 couple of your updates in there. Not that I'm that I'm sure there 997 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,440 will be some disappointed people because I can't go everywhere 998 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,440 obviously, but you know, I guess shout about it if I'm not going 999 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,920 and then I can be like, hey, managers, there's loads of 1000 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,800 people. Want me to go there? 1001 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,840 Make a noise. Well, that's like, and that is 1002 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,360 so true as well. And you were there and I'm like 1003 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,600 taking it for all of us. I saw an interview from Renee 1004 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,520 Rapp and they asked her what was your what's been your favourite 1005 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,760 memory ever from all of your concerts? 1006 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,000 She said her favourite ever memory was when she'd done her 1007 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,400 off the cuff London gig. Didn't realise she had such a 1008 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,560 big following here and also said performing in the kitchen and 1009 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,920 everyone singing it in their British accents literally like 1010 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,760 rocked her fucking world. So you just never know. 1011 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,040 So you do have to rave about loving who you love. 1012 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,200 So the last question is, well, we've had lots more. 1013 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,160 But as I've just said to the guys that or the girls or the 1014 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,640 gays, that a lot of them I think we've actually covered for you 1015 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,200 guys throughout this episode. So I'm going to finish on a 1016 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,120 funny one, and it's a arch nemesis one between me and you. 1017 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,240 Oh. Who gives birth more gay panic, 1018 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:37,960 Scarlett or Freyr? Scarlett gives me more gay 1019 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680 panic. I'm going to kill myself. 1020 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,040 But that's because you give it back to me more like you're a, 1021 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,640 you're in, you're more of a outward. 1022 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,240 Flirt. That's space. 1023 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,600 No one minute no. I think it's because I am the 1024 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,520 softer of the. Two, you are and you're too. 1025 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,040 You're you, you give me gay panic when you actively like go 1026 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,240 out of your way to give me gay panic. 1027 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:01,960 But I think you feel a bit sorry for me. 1028 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,360 So you kind of go, no, no, no, not in a not in a mean way. 1029 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,760 But I think like you'll, you'll be like softer with me so that 1030 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,160 it's like you won't try and you won't like really try and make 1031 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,240 me feel uncomfortable, whereas Scarlett will. 1032 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,920 She isn't a touchy feely person whereas I am. 1033 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,960 So you feel like when it comes from Scarlet, it feels very 1034 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,360 intentional, whereas when it comes from me, because it's 1035 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,840 happening all the time, Yeah, you're completely blind to it 1036 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,760 now. And I fucking I hate myself. 1037 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,440 No, but it's gay panic as Dick like, you know, just. 1038 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,760 Shut up, Scarlet. You've got Brie. 1039 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,960 Can't have it all. And I want my cake and I want to 1040 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,520 eat it too. I want them all to want me I. 1041 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,800 Fancy you both the same? I fancy you too, darling. 1042 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,440 The gay panic thing is a different thing, yeah. 1043 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,760 OK, SO notes. Don't be so butt hurt. 1044 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,640 Butt hurts. Your butt hurts. 1045 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,120 Yeah. I just want to quickly go back 1046 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,120 to talking about first, best, hottest, the sexy song because 1047 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,480 we brushed over this. Yes. 1048 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,040 But Freya, your, your voice is in that song. 1049 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920 So I can't remember what I even say in that, but you made me 1050 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,560 send you a load of. Voice I make right? 1051 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,720 I feel like the move is right now that I have to find some of 1052 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,240 these voice notes that you sent me. 1053 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,800 Oh yes. Because so basically, so in what 1054 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,440 do you call it? Originally I wanted to have like 1055 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,960 a girl saying hey, I have feelings because the middle 8 is 1056 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,160 like I supposed to be a phone call. 1057 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,200 The phone rings like hey, and it was going to be like I you know, 1058 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,920 I have feelings for you like a break in the song. 1059 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:37,080 So I was I like got you to do it right, and and then it's ended 1060 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,880 up being just like this isn't what? 1061 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,720 So then I was like, OK, we could do it in first, best, hottest, 1062 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,440 and I want to call back to don't have sorts girls where it's like 1063 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,160 she said and she says, what's your name? 1064 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,320 And I can't remember it. And so I was like, we'll open it 1065 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,920 with what's your name? So that's what you what I ended 1066 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,320 up getting you to say like way down the line, but this was the 1067 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:02,280 beginning, right? So OK, I'm going to be. 1 * 2 1068 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,520 See, can I just say quickly I didn't get involved in any of 1069 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,760 this because I knew one day it'd come around to bite me on the 1070 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,920 ass? Yeah, here we are. 1071 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,880 Yeah, Where are you? Take the ticket. 1072 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:15,560 I do right? So she goes normal for a couple 1073 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,960 right? Is one of the I think I might 1074 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,280 have feelings for you. I'm going to fucking die. 1075 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:28,800 I think my Dick is too big. Hey, I think I might be in love 1076 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,680 with you. Hey I think your mom is really 1077 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,840 fat. Hey I think your pussy is. 1078 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,520 God I want to. This is so me though, like I 1079 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,960 can't. You know what? 1080 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,920 It's so. So many right, So and The thing 1081 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,720 is the the pussy is God one, right? 1082 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,680 Actually originally was what was in first best hottest because 1083 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,040 I'd I'd sent all of these to the the producer. 1084 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,040 I was working with Alexander and he did what do you call it? 1085 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,040 And he also did first best hottest with me and I sent like 1086 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,280 a bunch of them to him. And I sent the pussy is God one 1087 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,600 as a joke. And then when we did first, 1088 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,240 best, hottest, he was like, it was like, Hey, I think your 1089 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,880 pussy is God. And then I start singing and 1090 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,400 when I tell you, I wish I could have put that, but I was like 1091 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,240 King Princess that. Little bit though for life I 1092 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,120 feel like king. Princess would have fucked with. 1093 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,880 That yeah, probably, but I was like, ah, copyright issue also 1094 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,560 like at that point I'm probably a bit. 1095 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,960 Like you could DM King Princess then be like, hey babe, would 1096 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,520 you be offended? And they'd be like. 1097 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,080 Nah, if I did this I might put it out like not not put it out. 1098 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,280 You could do like a mini version. 1099 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,640 Two or something just for the crack. 1100 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,680 Also, I was like, but at this point, I mean I'm fine now, but 1101 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,000 I was thinking about releasing this and I was not. 1102 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,880 This was this PP is like the first time I've been so this 1103 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,080 open about being queer and. And it's quite it's. 1104 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,600 Interesting, like the again, the year on this podcast thing like 1105 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,600 this podcast was the first time I was really, really open about 1106 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,920 my queerness, like in a in a deep play. 1107 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,080 I know look at me now. But like I remember talking 1108 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,720 about like my first experience with a girl that was freaking 1109 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,320 that was I had shared that with the world. 1110 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,200 Now I would just do it in a heartbeat for a for a TikTok 1111 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,120 video. Do you know what I mean? 1112 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,000 But I for that song, then we ended up switching it into 1113 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,080 What's your name? Because I thought it'd be a 1114 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,800 clever throwback and and whatever. 1115 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,640 So yeah, if you if you have a little listen to the you'll hear 1116 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,880 phrase the first, best, hottest, the. 1117 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,800 Finger in themselves to you. Everybody thinks it's me though, 1118 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000 because we sound similar. But this is what made me laugh 1119 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,200 so much, was that when I heard you doing it on someone else's 1120 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,520 song, I could. Be Frayer. 1121 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,240 I laughed because I was like, not only is it the same concept, 1122 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,240 but the voice is exactly the fucking say. 1123 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,920 It's funny, we've got the same voice, same name. 1124 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520 Yeah, we do. We do all the. 1125 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:50,240 Second, your long lost sister. We also in the club we like have 1126 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:54,400 quite, we have kind of similar brains sometimes as well. 1127 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,280 Both the same level of chaotic and like very caring, loving 1128 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,240 have your. Moments of brutality emotional 1129 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,160 anxious like the anxious attachment. 1130 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,480 Is that like the big? Smiles. 1131 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,960 As well, let's go girly. Really big smiles, which is 1132 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,240 quite similar. You're both short Queens. 1133 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,680 I'm not as short as Beth, OK? Really, you are a. 1134 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,800 Short Queen. You know what? 1135 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,640 It's funny because Beth coming to Levi's today and we always 1136 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,080 like source out the pink for Beth, of course. 1137 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,240 Yeah, my Beth on a pair. Of trousers. 1138 00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,640 And she's like, why is everything so long at the 1139 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,720 moment? It's really annoying. 1140 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,400 I was like, they don't have this conversation with me. 1141 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,080 Say it to prayer. Same. 1142 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,560 Yeah, I'm, I'm fine. I'm almost 57. 1143 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,880 Almost right? You're more 5-6 than you're 5. 1144 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,000 That's above average. Right for a woman, that's above 1145 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,400 average for a height for a woman. 1146 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,560 So why the fuck does nothing fit? 1147 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,560 We are meant to be a growing. Species, there we are. 1148 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,640 But fuck off. Anyway, let's go on to the 1149 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,760 Horror Story. OK, so this person wrote in this 1150 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,000 Horror Story says hello. First off, I want to tell you 1151 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,520 how much I love the show. I listen to it often while I'm 1152 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520 running and I think my neighbours think I'm deranged 1153 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,440 because I will start laughing loudly whilst I'm running down 1154 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,520 the street. Thank you very much. 1155 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,680 Thank you for the queer love and representation. 1156 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,280 As a millennial I can say that I wish I had something like this 1157 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,560 to help me navigate my sexuality. 1158 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,560 Thank you, thank you, thank you and you can also thank Beth as 1159 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,120 well for that because she's doing the same. 1160 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,360 This Horror Story is one that started and ended like a typical 1161 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,640 lesbian bar experience and then took a turn. 1162 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,800 A few years ago I was visiting some friends in a city with a 1163 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,240 great gay bar scene. One of my friends had a Co 1164 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,120 worker I'll call T. She wanted to go out with us 1165 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,080 quiz to the lesbian bar. T was by all accounts 1166 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,080 heterosexual and in a situation ship with a guy in the military 1167 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,000 who was deployed overseas. All she really liked this guy. 1168 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,720 She talked about how often he would behave like a Dick her 1169 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:48,040 words and was somewhat wishy washy about exclusivity and 1170 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,120 labelling their relationship. Needless to say, none of us 1171 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,760 queers were rooting for this relationship. 1172 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,720 All of us hung out during the day and team made some comments 1173 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,120 about wanting to make out with a woman and never having done it 1174 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,000 before. Classic let me tell you tea is 1175 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,800 beautiful and when we started to pregame she started to flirt 1176 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,560 with me. When we were in the cab on the 1177 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,520 way to the bar she looked at me and said let me take the lead on 1178 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,800 this and I was like Oh my God OK. 1179 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,920 We all start drinking and having a good time and then she and I 1180 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,440 went to sit down in a less noisy part of the bar. 1181 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,320 The next thing I know she grabs me and we start making out. 1182 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,600 I figured it would be something short and quick but it started 1183 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,360 to escalate and I asked if she wanted to go to the bathroom. 1184 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,160 Another classic, Another classic. 1185 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,680 So we start having sex in the bathroom for about 15 minutes 1186 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,960 and then after she came we decided to go outside again. 1187 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,520 Everything was cool for the rest of the night and she made it 1188 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,040 back to the hotel and fell asleep. 1189 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,560 She's in a different bed than me. 1190 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,120 In the morning I wake up to tea talking to this guy and acting 1191 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,080 like nothing happened. Like almost as if she had 1192 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,840 amnesia and we didn't drink that much for her to black out. 1193 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,520 She's literally in bed gushing about this guy. 1194 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,000 I didn't think anything more would happen but it seems so 1195 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,640 strange to not even acknowledge it. 1196 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,920 Anyways, we have breakfast, I go home and everything's fine. 1197 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,120 But that's not the horror part. A few weeks later I find out 1198 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,400 that the guy that she was seeing was killed in combat and I'm the 1199 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,120 last person his girlfriend kissed. 1200 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,000 It was so sad and I felt so bad for her and the loss in general. 1201 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,760 I don't necessarily feel guilty because I could have never 1202 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,200 predicted the outcome and she was part of the decision, but 1203 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,160 all of the things that happened after a lesbian bathroom hookup. 1204 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,320 Sorry, this I know this this is a podcast right? 1205 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,120 And I should be saying something, but I am. 1206 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,160 Flabbergasted, I know. Speechless. 1207 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,640 I like I was like where is this going? 1208 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,720 Like what? Killed in combat. 1209 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:48,480 Yeah, I know, I know. If you don't laugh, you'll cry. 1210 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,920 But it is. It's really. 1211 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,520 Sad. Did they end up together? 1212 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,960 No, I don't. I would hope not. 1213 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,480 Well, at least it would be worth it. 1214 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,360 No, it would be worth it. Kind of. 1215 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,520 Oh. Expected to go there do. 1216 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,560 You. No, you don't. 1217 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,960 That one was can you? That was a doozy. 1218 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,240 Oh my God, that was awful. It's like, honestly. 1219 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,720 I don't want to speak ill of the dead. 1220 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,080 The fact that she was saying that he was being wishy washy 1221 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,520 didn't want to commit well in the military. 1222 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,160 No, what I'm saying he's in the military. 1223 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,480 If he did want to commit, he's out and about, he's with his 1224 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,160 mates all the time. He probably was doing the same 1225 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:32,760 thing right? It's a. 1226 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,040 Classic. We can't assume he's dead. 1227 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,240 We can't fucking someone come after. 1228 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,720 No, we can't assume, but all I'm saying is for both the 1229 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,880 girlfriend and the lesbian that. Did do they not ignore it? 1230 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,520 I can't. Never know. 1231 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,000 Look, things do happen. There's a thing, but then you 1232 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,200 can't like. Also, it's nothing to do and. 1233 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,000 We've all we, you know, it happened a bit. 1234 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440 No, we've all been that. Being the other girl, it being 1235 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,040 the cheat, like we've all. I've hold my hands up. 1236 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,200 No one's died after, but like we've said. 1237 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,200 Never ended in death, however, the lesbian. 1238 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,920 Curse is taking to the next fucking. 1239 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,880 I mean, that's something something else you. 1240 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,560 Can't blame yourself, like you said it is just a very 1241 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,960 unfortunate. Really just got so unfortunate, 1242 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,160 very unfortunate. It was a week later, they say. 1243 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,080 I think it was quite soon after. Yeah. 1244 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,360 Oh my. God, I know. 1245 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,040 God, I mean, that girl would have felt awful, wouldn't she? 1246 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,480 The other one? Oh yeah, I. 1247 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,960 Feel like the kid would eat me alive, yeah. 1248 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,200 That would you would I mean whether it was he he's a man, 1249 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,360 woman, like whoever the situation like it is awful. 1250 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,400 I mean, at least you never have to go through the whole thing of 1251 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,960 telling him. To label anything though, 1252 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,240 technically she didn't. She wasn't really. 1253 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,920 Yeah, true. Look, look, I don't even know 1254 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,760 what I was going to say. Look. 1255 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,280 Listen, at least you know he never had to go through the pain 1256 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,200 of finding out. That's what I thought. 1257 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,600 It's true. So, you know, he might. 1258 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,040 Have been not bothered as well, just to make everyone feel 1259 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,840 better. He might not have bothered 1260 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,880 because if he didn't want to commit, he would have just been 1261 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,000 like, actually, do you know what? 1262 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,760 If you're doing it, I can now be honest about doing it. 1263 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,600 I've been doing it. We've all been doing it. 1264 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,240 We'll never know. Because he's dead. 1265 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:18,440 Because right on that note, thank you for listening today's 1266 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,720 episode of the Lesbian Summer. Club pass for coming. 1267 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,560 On it's okay. If us have run through of, 1268 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,760 what's next? So what is next is my EP I Don't 1269 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,640 Know How to Sort Girls is coming out on Valentine's Day because I 1270 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,280 am Pink Cupid, otherwise known as pooped. 1271 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,400 Who calls you poop it? Which actually Q Pink is cute, 1272 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,120 but of course I didn't think that. 1273 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:45,120 I just thought poop it. I yes, EP on Valentine's Day, 1274 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:51,200 I'm doing a big release party at Dolphin Den on the 18th, which 1275 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,520 you can't come to because it's the sole of the things you've 1276 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,320 already gone ticket. But if you're already coming, 1277 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,040 then great, I'll see you there. And then I, yeah, I'm going on 1278 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,800 on tour, which I will be announcing officially very, very 1279 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,560 soon. I'm doing, it's my biggest 1280 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,000 London show. Well, it's my biggest tour ever 1281 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,520 and it's my biggest London show by three times I think. 1282 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,840 So a lot over double, which is insane. 1283 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,200 And I love it there. It's an incredible location that 1284 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,920 when the details are revealed, it's just gonna love. 1285 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,960 Gonna be insane. So I'm very, very excited. 1286 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,040 And then yeah, the EP is going to come out. 1287 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:32,080 I've got a very exciting follow up single which is for the. 1288 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,160 Oh yes, the one. That we got for the bye babies. 1289 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,320 Like if you thought I don't know how to sort the girls with the 1290 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,000 bye anthem. You prefer this? 1291 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,240 You're not gonna actually like this song even more. 1292 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,800 Yeah, same. Yeah, so. 1293 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,680 There's a lot of good shit. All good things we're gonna. 1294 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,120 Have another podcast in another year. 1295 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,520 I'll just keep coming back every in. 1296 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,760 February, I think it's good for us to check in. 1297 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,560 Yeah, then we see and I can't. Wait to hear about what that 1298 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,720 we'll do it so long as I'm like better because if yeah imagine 1299 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,840 if it all went downhill now and next time it's like guys it all 1300 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,640 went wrong I got cancelled You know what though? 1301 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,400 That makes a brilliant episode for us, so either. 1302 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,000 Way and then it could be like rising from the dust. 1303 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,880 Here's my Horror Story. Yeah. 1304 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,080 Rising. Every my career. 1305 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,640 Got cancelled, right? We love you. 1306 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,320 Goodbye and I love you later. See you next week. 1307 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:18,920 Bye.