1 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:14,960 Hello lesbians. Good morning, good afternoon, 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,240 good evening and good night to everyone listening. 3 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:19,200 This is. Giving Where's that from? 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,600 Is that from the film with Jim Carrey in it? 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Is it? What? 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Liar. Liar. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,920 No, no, the one where. Bruce Almighty. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,120 No, the one where his whole life is fake. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,400 I literally mentioned it earlier today. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Truman Show. Truman Show? 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,640 I'm pretty sure he says that. Good afternoon. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Good. Morning. 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,040 I think so, yeah, probably. I've only watched it like once. 14 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:37,960 Years ago, I went through a phase where I thought I was in 15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,880 The Truman Show. I still kind of think it to this 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,640 day. It's. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Called mental illness. No, not. 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Actually, it's not dissociation, it's the fact that everywhere 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,800 that I went would suddenly get busy. 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,680 And it happened everywhere I went and it was so annoying. 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Like a place that's usually dead. 22 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,040 I'd go into and then all of a sudden it'd be really busy. 23 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,240 I'd walk into the shop, there'd be no one there, and then I'd go 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,960 to pay and there'd be queues. I was like, what? 25 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,320 A Shriman show. True, or it could just mean that 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,960 you've done something bad in the past life and it's just coming 27 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,080 back to haunt you in the most annoying way possible. 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,800 To queue for everything, Yeah, yeah, fair enough. 29 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 We haven't actually talked about the event that we had it. 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,240 Was a couple of weeks ago, now wasn't. 31 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 It I thought it was insane. It was really good, so good. 32 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,640 We had the garden Bar which is around Notting Hill, and it was 33 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,760 just like a massive enclosed garden and I'd say there's about 34 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,760 404 fifty lesbians. I'd say at least 450. 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,560 It was insane, yeah. It was nice because there's like 36 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,200 such a big outside space, which is great because like, let's 37 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,120 face it, everyone's gone back to smoking. 38 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:46,280 And I thought once we were told to go inside at like half ten 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,520 11:00-ish. She's 11. 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Yeah, 11. I thought, you know, like 41 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,360 naturally it will like start to die down because generally we 42 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,520 obviously do the pub nights. People always like being 43 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 outside. Like if you live in London or 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,680 you know, London, you know that there's not always a huge amount 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,400 of choice when it comes to outside space. 46 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 And people always do like kind of come in and like congregate 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 inside and continue the night. But like usually with the pubs 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,960 that we go for, it's quite like a small space as well. 49 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,840 So it's more like a social thing where people come in and talk. 50 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,520 However, this place is like, it's kind of actually like a bar 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,160 on the inside. I'd say like, yeah, Phil's very 52 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,280 much like a pub on the outside, but a bar on the inside. 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,160 And it's a big space as well. And they can turn the music up 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,520 really quite loud. So I was one of the last people 55 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,520 to go into the bar because I was like shunting everyone in being 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,080 like get your fucking ass inside now. 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,640 And then by the time I got inside it was already feral. 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Like I walked in and the music was just blaring and there was 59 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,600 just girls jumping, screaming everywhere on the tables, crowd 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,760 surfing. Singing their heart. 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Like performing like Coyote Ugly. 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 No, it was wild. It was. 63 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,360 That is the closest I think I've ever seen to Coyote Ugly. 64 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:02,800 I think to be fair, I think I spurred them on a little bit 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 because when we were inside, like the people that behind the 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,000 bar, they obviously just had like no clue in terms of what we 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,200 wanted to listen to and put on the worst music I think I've 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,800 actually ever heard to the point where it sounded like 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,560 construction work. I don't even know what it was. 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,680 So I go over there and I hijacked their phone and I just 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,400 put Chapel Rone on and suddenly that Chapel Rone is like, it's 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,120 like crack to lesbians. Like I see there's something in 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,160 that music that as soon as they hear it. 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Chapel Rome is a bigger version of 2022. 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Renee Rapp. Yes, yeah. 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,400 For sure, and a bigger version of 23 and kind of 2020 Fletcher 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,040 and 2019 King Princess. She's just, I think because 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,640 she's just giving off that like really out there mean lesbian 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,400 vibe and people are lapping it. Up don't even know if it's that. 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,560 The music is just great, really good because actually on a on a 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,800 like personality level, I don't get the best vibes from her. 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,680 No. I've got to be honest. 83 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Yeah. Whereas like I'm not, to be 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,840 fair, hilariously, given the topic that we're actually going 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,280 to be talking about today, I don't fucking know these people. 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,320 So like, let's not sit here and pretend that like I have any 87 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,120 idea about what their personality is like because I 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,560 don't. But just the way that they 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,079 present themselves as in Chapel, the things that I have seen 90 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:24,480 recently outside of their music is just like not giving the best 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,120 vibe. I think it's fair to make the 92 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,880 assumption that you don't like the way that they come across, 93 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,680 but it doesn't mean that you wouldn't like them in person. 94 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,200 That's what I'm trying to say. We're trying to say. 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,760 We're saying like, not the best impression outside of music, but 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,120 also the whole reason why I like her is because of her music so. 97 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Well, exactly. She's not really there to be 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,440 your friend. She's there to provide 99 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,760 entertainment and she's very good at it. 100 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Yeah, she does. Yeah, the lesbians are going 101 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,240 crazy for Chapel. Road Well, we've got another one 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,400 of those events now coming. We've actually got 2 events this 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 month. Balls to the balls. 104 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,000 We knew that we wanted to do another one at the pub, so we're 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,560 doing that one in like a couple of weeks and then at the Cock. 106 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,400 And then we've got the lesbian Halloween night, which that's 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,640 going to be at the Garden Bar. And I am. 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,080 I'm so excited to see who everyone actually turns up as, 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,920 because we put the theme as come as your lesbian icon, dead or 110 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,520 alive. If no one comes as me, I might 111 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,160 just cry in the corner. I don't want anyone to come as 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,560 me because I think I would just take immediate offence. 113 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,280 So someone dresses as me and they like have a hunchback 114 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,000 because they're like you have 0 posture Freya. 115 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,440 They just, and they just kind of like scurry around the room and 116 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,240 like oversize. Someone comes as me and just 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,960 writes cunt across their forehead. 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,000 That'd be. Great. 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,320 To be fair, that actually wouldn't. 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,040 Affect me? Funny. 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,480 Yeah, we went for two this month because now winter or, or 122 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,320 autumn, but it's basically winter, let's be honest, is upon 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,960 us very much. So what else do you really have 124 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,320 to look forward to? Rat? 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,840 Summer's over, so let's just begun pour a load of money down 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,120 the drain in terms of beer, because what else have we really 127 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,080 got to live for at this point? It's in like, it's our culture, 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,680 isn't it really? I mean, if you were to look at 129 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,520 any other culture that we've got, what is it? 130 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:13,000 Roast dinners. Roast dinners and Nigel Farage. 131 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,720 Yeah, Adele, we've got Adele. Coldplay. 132 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Just trying to think of what comes to my mind when I was 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,960 just. Talking, thinking about British 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,560 bands and I thought about Blossoms who were playing at 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,600 that Levi's event. And then I thought about me 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,640 doing Shania Twain at that Levi's event. 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,160 Joe what? Sometimes I just think, why 138 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,960 haven't I got that thing in my brain that goes, you should be 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,040 ashamed and embarrassed, But I don't. 140 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,560 I just don't have it. Like, I wonder if they did like 141 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,200 a brain scan on me that they'd see like, that area of my brain. 142 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 And she's fair. Though it was karaoke like you 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,640 weren't the only one. You didn't just like gate crash 144 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,640 the stage. No, we should train song and 145 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,760 leave. Can you imagine? 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,640 I also would have probably done that. 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,160 I think the most embarrassing part of it was was that I was 148 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,320 with you live like a few other people. 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,440 We were having a chat and I just up out of nowhere walked 150 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,440 downstairs to the karaoke area and put my name down and wait 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,560 very patiently for my time whilst frantically texting all 152 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,480 of you and no one was getting my messages. 153 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,480 So I was like, OK, this is a room for the people that are 154 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,720 like PR work for brands or like a famous, and I'm about to come 155 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 up here on my own to do Shania Twain. 156 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Man, I felt like a woman. I was just outside having a 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 cigarette. Yeah, but then you heard me. 158 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 I did hear you and I was like, Oh my God. 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,760 She is in all fairness to you guys, you did step out your 160 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,040 cigarette and come running downstairs mainly for the. 161 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,160 Record you to show Mellie. Yeah, to show our friend. 162 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,440 We know that we would really enjoy. 163 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,240 Well, I really want to try and get a karaoke machine for the 164 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Halloween night, so I'm going to try and make that happen because 165 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,280 I think everyone loves karaoke. I don't know a person in this 166 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,320 world that doesn't like it. I mean, I don't think that I'd 167 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,040 subject myself to it personally. Oh, you love it. 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,800 I enjoy other people doing it, but I don't think that I would 169 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,080 do it. I wouldn't enjoy it if I got up 170 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,440 there. I simply wouldn't. 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Getting up there and doing my kink is karma. 172 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,400 No, Oh come on. I wouldn't enjoy it. 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,800 I would love to see it though. No, Yeah, yeah, if you. 174 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,120 Were as drunk as you. Were I? 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Wouldn't. I still wouldn't. 176 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 If there was a stage in a mic. No, I wouldn't. 177 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,080 No, I wouldn't. She got really drunk the other 178 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 night and it was a Monday, which is just so funny, you know, It's 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,039 just one of those nights. We just don't really. 180 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:34,840 It's a cry for help. It's a cry for help and. 181 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,440 She's I I pull up outside the house and she's so gutted that 182 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,080 me and Liv have gotten out the car because she's absolutely 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,760 blasting my Kinkus Karma hand out the window still singing to 184 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,880 the top of our lungs. It was great, I enjoyed it. 185 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,200 Yeah, it was 5 minutes of peace and dissociation and then I got 186 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,560 in and was violently, violently sick for two hours to the point 187 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:03,840 where I was so sick that had nothing in me, but my body was 188 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,880 still like, no, you need to get rid of this toxicity. 189 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,640 To the point where I actually thought my eyes were going to 190 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,200 pop out of my head. I felt that unwell. 191 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,160 And at that point I thought, this is actually quite pathetic. 192 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Like, was it worth it? No, it wasn't. 193 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,000 Like very much clearly need to sort myself out. 194 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,720 I've really been laying off the booze. 195 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,480 This is why it really took by surprise because it was a Monday 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,440 and I did really had no intention of like getting drunk 197 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 because I've been really laying off drinking a lot. 198 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,960 And for some reason I was just like drinking red wine, chatting 199 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,440 with the owners of this local place that we go to who are also 200 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,840 our friends and their little girls were there who like I 201 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,760 love. So it's just socializing, blah, 202 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,680 blah, blah. Had a few glasses of wine. 203 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,400 It was just like having a nice time, but it it wasn't touching 204 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,000 me. Whereas usually with wine I'll 205 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,160 know by, you know, let the third glass I can. 206 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,040 I can feel it, but it wasn't touching me. 207 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,640 I. Could see your pupils. 208 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,640 So then I I kept going and then I kept going and then I kept 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,160 going and then suddenly it was like zero to 100 and I would 210 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,680 have stayed but it was a Monday night. 211 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,600 So we left. And then as soon as I got 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,040 through the door I thought I fucked. 213 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,160 It sure, maybe that was your problem. 214 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Maybe you shouldn't have come home. 215 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Maybe like, it's when you're left to your own devices, that's 216 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,160 when you realize how fucked you are. 217 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Whereas had you not, you wouldn't have realized and you 218 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,640 might have just gone on your merry way. 219 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Who knows? But yeah, red wine and you. 220 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,720 I mean, I did know at some point. 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,280 I was like, I want to go now. Scarlett lets me and goes, I'm 222 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,080 having a nice time. So I was like, OK, I'll just 223 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,360 stay, but to. Be fair, you can just leave like 224 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,200 you don't have to stay, no. I do usually leave, but I was 225 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,560 like, yeah, no. And also we were there for 226 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:43,920 another reason which we were celebrating. 227 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,360 So I was like, OK, I'm just gonna, I'll stay today. 228 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,960 We really wanted to talk about parasocial relationships because 229 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,360 I feel like this has, well, going back to Chapel Rome kind 230 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,720 of like has come into the forefront of the media at the 231 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,880 moment. And if you guys don't know what 232 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,920 a parasocial relationship is? I'm going to read the definition 233 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,640 to you right now. Parasocial relationships are one 234 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,160 sided relationships where one person extends emotional energy, 235 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,760 interest and time and the other party, the persona is completely 236 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,560 unaware of the other's existence. 237 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Parasocial relationships are common with celebrities, 238 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,400 organizations such as sports teams or television stars. 239 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,360 So it's basically one person has fixated, become emotionally 240 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,280 invested, slash obsessed with another person who 9 times out 241 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,800 of 10 will be in the media and completely irrelevant to their 242 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,320 like daily life or no no association to their daily life. 243 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:46,120 And this person fixates on said influencer media personnel to a 244 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,360 point of obsession. And I think it can get quite 245 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,680 dangerous at times and quite well. 246 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,520 It is very dystopian. Yeah, it's where they think. 247 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,920 They basically will think that that person is their best 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,480 friend, right? They'll think that they know. 249 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,720 They think that they know them really, really well and that 250 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,360 they have that thing where they're like, well, if we do, 251 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,200 we're obviously going to be best friends. 252 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,400 So I'm going to play like a little bit of the video because 253 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Chapel Rona's come out to basically say this is getting 254 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 too much and I'll play you at the beginning of it if you 255 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,040 haven't already had of it. If you saw a random woman on the 256 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 street, would you yell at her from the car window? 257 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,760 You go up to a random lady and say, can I get a photo with you? 258 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,320 And she's like, no, what the? And then you get mad at this 259 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,960 random lady. Do you stalk her family? 260 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Would you follow her around? OK, so I totally get this, but 261 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:39,200 but OK, so I totally get where she's coming from. 262 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Like in the sense of it's getting too much. 263 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,800 You can't be yelling at me from across the street. 264 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,320 However, to compare it to a random lady, obviously we can't, 265 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,720 we can't like put those two things parallel, right? 266 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,120 We can't be like, let's get this random lady that nobody knows 267 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400 and somebody that's very well known in the media. 268 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,560 What she needs to be talking about is being like, I love you 269 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:00,160 guys as fans, but you just need to like. 270 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Turn a line. Down and realise that there is a 271 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,720 line. Yeah, because I think that she 272 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,760 did go on a bit of like a manic speech about her fans and kind 273 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,200 of looked quite disgusted towards the camera. 274 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Yeah. And so I don't think that was 275 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,320 right, but I do get what she's saying in the sense where it's 276 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,360 like, you can't be fucking chasing. 277 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,840 I think as well making this relevant to queer people is that 278 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:28,560 I do think that queer fandom is way, way bigger than 279 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,600 heterosexual fandom. As in, I do generally see from 280 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,920 what I feel that queer obsession with people in the media is a 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,640 lot bigger and a lot more intense than potentially what 282 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,160 straight people in the media would experience from their 283 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 straight fandom. And I think that is because 284 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,840 historically and obviously throughout childhood of the 285 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,680 queer community now that are living online, being exposed 286 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:59,320 left, right and centre to queer people, whether it be in the 287 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,080 music industry or in the media or whatever that is, is actually 288 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,360 relatively new. And we never saw that growing 289 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,480 up. So now to see even a glimpse of 290 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,360 ourselves represented online, whether it be with 291 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,240 relationships, people coming out, people just showing off 292 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,720 their identity and being proud of who they are, creates this 293 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,240 kind of like, Oh my God, this person is like amazing because 294 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 they're giving me something that I never had growing up. 295 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,240 And they do make it really queer centric, right? 296 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Because it's like, as we've said before, when we were growing up 297 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,680 that we had Ellen de Generes, she was the only one of the only 298 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,200 out lesbians on TV, but she never really mentioned about her 299 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,920 sexuality. There was still an element of 300 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,920 shame. Whereas at the moment you do 301 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,720 have your Fletchers, you do have your king princesses, you do 302 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,320 have your Renee wraps, you do have your G flips. 303 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Like all of these queer people are showing up and doing 304 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,960 absolutely incredible things for the community. 305 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,800 And obviously they're very much loved. 306 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,600 But I do see a lot of that obsession with I, I think we've 307 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,440 mentioned it before, but the whole obsession between Fletcher 308 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,840 and Shannon beverages, relationships slash breakup and 309 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,600 everything that came with that and the, the amount of videos 310 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,600 and the comments underneath their videos and the, the, the, 311 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,360 the edits that people would make and the, the rumours that would 312 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,280 go round. It was just insane, Like 313 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 genuinely insane and the same. As fuck that. 314 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,320 You fuck that. Yeah. 315 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,880 And I, I do think that that isn't fandom and just loving 316 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,320 someone in the media that I do feel is like relatively 317 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,560 obsessive and more light does need to be brought to this is 318 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,600 that no one in these positions are saying, you know, that they 319 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,360 don't respect how much the fans love them and how dedicated they 320 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,680 are are. And obviously everyone in those 321 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,240 positions are there because of their family 100% and because of 322 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,160 people who respect their art and love who they are. 323 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,560 And that is truly so important. And there is absolutely nothing 324 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,720 wrong with kind of idolizing someone and looking up to them 325 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,840 and loving and appreciating what they may or may not have brought 326 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,640 to your life. But there is just a fine line 327 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,640 between that them becoming quite intrusive to that person. 328 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 And there is a level of respect that needs to come with that, 329 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,440 which is just because they have put themselves in a position of 330 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,120 exposing themselves to the world doesn't mean that others have 331 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,680 the right to take advantage of them putting themselves out 332 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,880 there also. A Chapel Roan, right? 333 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Like that's her whole persona that she's putting out there. 334 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Nobody knows what she's actually like. 335 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,240 I mean, like on stage, the dresses and her makeup. 336 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,080 Like she's very theatrical. That is just very clearly like a 337 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,840 stage presence. It's like babes, you don't know 338 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,240 this girl. And going back to what you were 339 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,560 saying, yeah, I think it's really good. 340 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,800 The artists that do say, I fucking love my fans and I 341 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,960 wouldn't be here without them. Chapel Roan hasn't done that and 342 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,520 is very much just like fuck you guys. 343 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,000 And so I think that everyone was a bit like. 344 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Yeah, that's bad it. Feels a bit targeted to kind of 345 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040 almost all of her fans. Whereas it's like, no, let's 346 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,160 just like keep it real here. If you are stalking someone or 347 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 you're yelling at them from across the street or you believe 348 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,640 that they're your friend, yeah, that's not right. 349 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,839 But purely being a fan and fucking loving someone and maybe 350 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,240 losing your shit a little bit if you saw them in person because 351 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,359 she got annoyed that somebody asked to take a photo with her, 352 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,839 Yeah, that's bad. Come on, babe. 353 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,400 Like, I get that you don't want people fucking stalking you, but 354 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,119 somebody asking for a photo with you, like, yeah, kind of. 355 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,280 I don't know. For me, it just comes across as 356 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,560 really, I don't know, it's just bad taste. 357 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,599 I think The thing is as well though, is when people rise that 358 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:29,320 quickly. Yeah. 359 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:35,000 I can't imagine the kind of ego boost that you must get it. 360 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 It must just, well, I think you have to be a certain type of 361 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,520 person anyway to get that ego boost. 362 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,400 I really don't think it would do much for me, but people put 363 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 themselves in this position to get to that level of fame for a 364 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,800 reason. So it must stroke something for 365 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 them that probably. Sometimes they don't like it, 366 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,560 sometimes they don't like it, sometimes they think they want 367 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,280 it and then they get to that level of fame and they. 368 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,960 No, I think it's completely opposite. 369 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,720 I actually think they love it, but their ego is so big they 370 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 feel that they can be like fuck you a bit. 371 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,080 I don't know. I felt OK. 372 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,240 I think it could go either way. I do. 373 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,560 I do agree with that. I think you can either be like 374 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,960 that or you can be really overwhelmed and be like, what 375 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,040 the fuck? Yeah. 376 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Like, I know that she's been around for a while making music 377 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,320 like Pink Pony Club. I'm pretty sure she did in like 378 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,440 2018 or something crazy. But she did rise really fast, 379 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,320 like all of a sudden just up, didn't she? 380 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:26,800 Trying to I still don't think she's overwhelmed. 381 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,840 Trying to think of and a rap got overwhelmed, but I still felt 382 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,920 dealt with it really well. Yeah, I don't know if Chapel 383 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,360 Rhone is overwhelmed or just on her high horse a bit. 384 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,840 On a pink pony because. A friend of ours went to one of 385 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,880 her gigs and apparently she yeah, our friend. 386 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Said that the vibes were off. Vibes are off. 387 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,520 And she just didn't do a load of songs. 388 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,240 I don't think that she was like people showed went to go for. 389 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,960 I remember there was something in particular, but I've 390 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,160 completely forgotten. Yeah, I can't remember what it 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,960 was, but yeah, I just think fine line, baby. 392 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,400 I mean, but then obviously there. 393 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,960 Is that really dangerous side of them? 394 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,080 People becoming so obsessed that it becomes dangerous? 395 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,400 And that is really bad. Like you've just experienced it 396 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,360 recently where people are cloning you and pretending to be 397 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,040 1. Catfish me, right? 398 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Multiple people have been cloning my identity. 399 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040 I don't know why they've chosen me, saying that they're a 400 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,080 private account of mine. I want to make it really clear 401 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,160 that the only social media that I have is my open, very public 402 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720 tick tock. It's fair, I'm pretty sure with 403 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,160 an ice cube at the end of it and then my Instagram account and 404 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,720 then lesbian supper club. It's so weird that these like 405 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,400 cloners are like just having really inappropriate 406 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,920 conversations with people and trying to do some crazy shit. 407 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,440 So I don't know, that kind of doesn't like fall into the same 408 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,360 realm, I don't think. But I think they are taking 409 00:19:53,360 --> 00:20:00,960 advantage of using me as bait, which is so fucking weird. 410 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Like who actually does that? I don't know. 411 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,720 I mean, I know that it happens all the time, but why? 412 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Money, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 413 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,520 People do it to trick others into cash sadly and a lot of 414 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,440 people do fall for it and I don't know why but just be 415 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,320 really vigilant because if it sounds too good to be true then 416 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,240 it probably is with anything in life. 417 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Amen, sister. I know it's crazy, but yeah, 418 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,240 those are my, those are my only accounts. 419 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,200 But yeah, I don't know, I feel like I do get it. 420 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,760 I do get why the parasocial relationships are happening more 421 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,760 and more with queer artists. And I think the main thing as 422 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,560 well As for us to just like, I think that's why it's so 423 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560 important to have your queer community that you form like 424 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,080 such good friendships in because it's people that you can relate 425 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,720 to. If you only have celebrities to 426 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,360 relate to and no one in real life, you are going to feel like 427 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:00,920 next level attached to this person because you feel so alone 428 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,120 in your own experience. And they're the only other 429 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:07,680 person to you that's going through it and is speaking about 430 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,800 it. And you're like, fuck yeah, I 431 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,560 love this and it. And it can become that like 432 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,600 unhealthy level of like obsession. 433 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,360 So I think that everyone should just get more gay mates, 434 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,120 basically more gay mates, more gay dogs. 435 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,640 Not gay dogs, just more gay, more gay, more dogs. 436 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Before we go any further, this episode of The Lesbian Supper 437 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Club is sponsored by Better Help. 438 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,160 We said before about people wanting to learn new things, 439 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,560 wanting to get into different hobbies, wanting to start 440 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 something that they've been putting off for so long. 441 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,440 And I don't think so many people have realized that therapy can 442 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,320 be a massive aid and actually making that happen. 443 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Because we go through our lives and we have this self doubt 444 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,400 about ourselves and maybe not that confidence that we need to 445 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,800 be able to explore something new, especially if you're going 446 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,320 to do it alone. 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Date just any form. 475 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Of scissoring and maybe maybe tripping. 476 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,440 A lesbian breakup would send a straight person into a coma. 477 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320 I genuinely don't think that they've got the stomach for the 478 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,200 prison scene with bets in the our word would send a straight 479 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,800 person into a coma. Agreed. 480 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,800 Sure, we need. Another L word, don't we? 481 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,640 Fucking hell this is getting ridiculous now. 482 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,520 They've done generation. Q But that was shit. 483 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,680 It wasn't great. Was it? 484 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760 It was just shit. So today's Horror Story is 485 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,840 actually very fitting to the the parasocial relationships, 486 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,600 obsessive type behaviours, stalking type behaviours. 487 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,720 And it's actually titled Stalked and kidnapped. 488 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Oh hi girls, love the pod. Thought I'd share a semi 489 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600 traumatic experience I had with an older girl when I was around 490 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,200 17 which lasted for about 6 months. 491 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800 To give you some back story, at this time I wasn't really sure 492 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,440 about my sexuality. I just started playing senior 493 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,200 football and this all took place in that community. 494 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800 If you know, you know. There was a girl on my team a 495 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,720 few years older than me who paid me a lot of attention. 496 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,520 We made out a couple of times when we were drinking, but it 497 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,760 felt casual, like something between friends. 498 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,880 I was close to her and our group, but as time passed around 499 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,680 age 16 or 17, I realized she was mostly using me to drive her 500 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,200 around and keep her company between her other conquests. 501 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Wait, hold on A. Minute so she was younger, but 502 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,400 she was driving the other girl around. 503 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,040 I think it'll make. Sense later. 504 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,880 OK one night I was out on the town with some girls from my 505 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,080 team and we ran into a few players from another. 506 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,040 One of them knew my friend and they had been together before 507 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,800 but now hated each other. There's the girl started coming 508 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,120 on to me and I was in my I don't give a fuck era a little drunk 509 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,200 and ended up hooking up with her in the club. 510 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,160 This moment led to months of trouble. 511 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,760 FYI this girl was 24 and I was only 17. 512 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,080 That's rogue. That's disgusting. 513 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,320 Actually, that's gross. Yeah, after. 514 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,680 That night, the girl from the club messaged me on Facebook 515 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,440 asking me out. I declined. 516 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Still, my friends and I who were broke would occasionally ask her 517 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280 for rides from parties. Unfortunately, during one of 518 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,160 those rides, we impulsively decided to go skinny dipping at 519 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,600 the beach. I was in good shape then and 520 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,640 didn't mind the occasional nude run. 521 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,240 I love that. But I was in shape then. 522 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160 I know. But I remember walking up to her 523 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640 completely naked, asking for her help to take off my watch. 524 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560 That seemed to be the moment she became obsessed with me and I 525 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,160 cringe thinking about it now. From there, the text became 526 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,200 constant. She messaged me daily and when I 527 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,600 started ignoring her, she took it to the next level. 528 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,160 She began texting my friends, saying things like she was in 529 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,560 love with me, that I must be an alien because I kissed too well. 530 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 When my friend also started ignoring her, the situation 531 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,720 escalated. An alien. 532 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Because she kissed so well. I know. 533 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Oh. My God. 534 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160 That's so lame, she started. Showing up at my football games, 535 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840 which got progressively mooring sunsettling. 536 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,320 One time she sat next to the mother of one of my teammates, 537 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,960 who also happened to be my high school guidance counsellor, and 538 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,120 described in graphic detail what she wanted to do to me. 539 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,040 Having someone I'd known since I was 7 tell me that was 540 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,600 mortifying. At another game I saw her 541 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040 talking to my 11 year old sister and my mum. 542 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Stay away, honey. When I got. 543 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,920 Home my sister told me she had invited herself over for dinner 544 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000 and had even suggested a job she thought would be good for me 545 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,600 once I finished school to my mum I told my family I didn't know 546 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280 her and that she must be a weirdo and not to engage with 547 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,760 her. Then came the truly creepy 548 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,040 moments, as if the ones prior just hasn't been saying what 549 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,480 the. Fuck, I'm already terrified she 550 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,440 sent me a. Picture of my dad walking to the 551 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,960 train station with the caption going to ask him for permission 552 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,680 with the ring emoji no. Shut up. 553 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280 She also. Sent photos of my car outside my 554 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,280 house. No and. 555 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,920 At this point. I wasn't just uncomfortable, I 556 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,440 was worried. I'm calling the fucking. 557 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,480 Police is what I'm doing. She's insane. 558 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800 I work part. Time at a local supermarket and 559 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600 she would come in and buy things just to interact with me. 560 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 I became hostile because I didn't know what she'd do next. 561 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680 It escalated to a point where she and a friend would call the 562 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,120 store landline asking for me, then hang up. 563 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:07,280 This happened so often that I ended up being warned I could 564 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720 lose my job. She even started showing up at 565 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,320 high school party she had no business being at asking people 566 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200 about me. The situation felt really 567 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,600 suffocating. Fucking. 568 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,360 How the scariest? Moment, though, was what I refer 569 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,880 to as my kidnapping. I've been out drinking. 570 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,840 I really don't find it funny but this is like so bad I I'm 571 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,640 laughing because I don't understand how people can be so 572 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,840 delusional that they wouldn't die of embarrassment of even 573 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,840 thinking about doing these things, let alone actually going 574 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 ahead. I've been out drinking at a 575 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,960 friend's house party with my football friends. 576 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,280 Later we moved to a pub but the bouncer recognised my fake ID 577 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,640 and wouldn't let me in. My phone was dead, so one of my 578 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,160 friends called another teammate who had offered us a ride 579 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,080 earlier. When she picked me up, I quickly 580 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,240 realized we weren't headed towards my house. 581 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560 I asked her about it and suddenly the stalker, Oh no. 582 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,040 The stalker girl popped up from the back of the car saying I was 583 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,280 coming with her for a bit. I told them I wanted to go home, 584 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,400 but they refused. I wasn't feeling brave enough to 585 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 jump out of a moving car so I had no choice but to go along. 586 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240 They took me to her house where I was basically held for hours 587 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,200 as they berated me about the other girl I had originally 588 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600 hooked up with saying she was a terrible person. 589 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,880 Which to be fair, I later realized my eyes was true. 590 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,640 She told me the guys I was seeing would never look at me 591 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,240 the way she could and that every time I tried to leave they were 592 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920 asking to borrow their phone or use the bathroom. 593 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,960 They refused and physically stopped me from going. 594 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 I was genuinely scared but didn't know what to do. 595 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,720 Eventually, around 4:00 AM, they finally dropped me home. 596 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Oh my God, I'd go. Feral the next day. 597 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,480 I found 2 ring pops in my mailbox with the note saying 598 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,120 just until I can afford a real one. 599 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Loved last night with you baby. Luckily I got to them before my 600 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,120 dad did. He would have lost it. 601 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760 After that I became a recluse and started avoiding social 602 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,120 events until she solely disappeared from my life. 603 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,040 Not long after I met my first real girlfriend who I've now 604 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,840 been with for eight years. So in the end things turned out 605 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,080 OK for me, but at the time it was terrifying and overwhelming 606 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,600 for a 17 year old girl. So yeah, that's my strange non 607 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520 threatening but still terrifying stalker story. 608 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Sorry for the length. Hope someone at least gets a 609 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600 laughed out of my stupidity. Well I don't, no, I'm just, well 610 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,960 actually no no, first of all it is threatening. 611 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,320 It's not. That's what I thought I was. 612 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,280 That's very threatening, yeah. Because if that was a. 613 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Man, doing that to a 17 year old girl, that would be like, yeah, 614 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,320 deemed as way, way, way worse. And secondly, you, it's not your 615 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,840 stupidity at all. No. 616 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160 And. Also she was saying like for a 617 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,560 17 year old, I'm 30, that would terrify me. 618 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,240 If anything it would terrify me more. 619 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 I I don't know how she didn't go feral in the house for a start, 620 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320 because I think I would have been kicking and screaming, 621 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640 running out the door, whatever it took. 622 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920 I just can't believe that people are actually like this. 623 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,560 So like did she must have convinced herself that this girl 624 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,200 just really desperately wanted to be with her but just like, 625 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,280 was playing hard to get or something? 626 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Like what the fuck no. I just think like clearly 627 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280 deluded, mentally unwell person that needs a lot of help. 628 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280 Yeah, but also. This worries me because what's 629 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,960 she doing now? Or we wouldn't know because 630 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,920 she's at underage children's parties. 631 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400 So we wouldn't see her not about we'd probably be all right. 632 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880 But the fact that she was 24 and she was 17 as well, I mean, 633 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400 that's your first seven years. Which, like, isn't bad if 634 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,800 someone's like 28 and 35 or 35 and 42. 635 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Yeah, 100. Percent, but seven like a child, 636 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,520 20. It's just disgusting. 637 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,120 Actually, no, that is. Gross. 638 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,200 That is gross. I'm sorry. 639 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,680 I hate when they're like, but they looked older. 640 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,880 They have. They're not older like I'm 20. 641 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Nine and I genuinely now would never go for someone under the 642 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920 age of 26. And that would be my absolute, 643 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,760 yeah, absolute. Minimum age and it would. 644 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,360 Be very much dependent on the person as well. 645 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360 But I'm sorry like that, I, I feel bad for this girl because 646 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,480 that's actually traumatising. Well, the fact that it did 647 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,400 traumatise her, she couldn't leave the fucking house. 648 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,480 It's. It's just horrible, but also 649 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480 taking. Photos of the dad's car. 650 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,120 No, the dad being like sorry, not gonna ask his permission. 651 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 The dad walking. At the train station it like 652 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080 you've got now. I mean, if you don't laugh, 653 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,920 you'll cry 'cause it is like so bad. 654 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,480 It's good, but if you're listening to this and you've 655 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,520 ever been someone that has incessantly messaged someone or 656 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800 gone to a place where you know that that person may be in the 657 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000 hopes that you bump into them because you think it's going to 658 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400 be some kind of love story, don't do that. 659 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,160 Yeah, don't do. It because that. 660 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880 Person's not interested. They're not avoiding you to play 661 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,880 hard to get, they're just avoiding you. 662 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,080 And if they are avoiding you to play hard to get, then avoid 663 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,720 them back and they'll come around that way. 664 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Showing up to their place of work or stalking their family 665 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,320 friends and capturing them is is not the way to go about it. 666 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,240 I'm just going to tell you that straight up just in case. 667 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560 None of. You realised that is not 668 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,240 actually a good idea, just in case. 669 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,080 You need APSA. This is it. 670 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400 It's not the way to go about it, but she's going into the. 671 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,560 Supermarket as well. Oh my God, it does actually like 672 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920 Joe. What always amazes me about 673 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,760 psychos is there stamina. Why have they always got so much 674 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,320 energy? Because I couldn't be asked to 675 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280 do that to someone even if I like do you know what I mean? 676 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,200 I'm way. Too lazy for that. 677 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,320 No, I am. Yeah, no, I think turning up at 678 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,240 work, taking the photo of the dad, I wish that she did 679 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,120 actually go up to the dad and answer the permission as he 680 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,440 probably would have knocked her clean. 681 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000 True. My dad a. 100% would have got a 682 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120 small older. Person that is, that is 683 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,880 everywhere I am at the moment. I don't know if it's 684 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,560 coincidental or not. We'll see. 685 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,840 I've hired a hit woman. They're not very good because 686 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,520 I'm still here, but that's that's what they. 687 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Want you to put it. No, I don't. 688 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,640 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 689 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600 She's, yeah. It's just, it's just different 690 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,960 types of people in the world, some of which I perceive to be 691 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,040 extremely, extremely strange. Yeah. 692 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,800 And that's. Just the way the cookie 693 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,920 crumbles. Or maybe it's just. 694 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Part of my Truman Show, I'm sure people. 695 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Will assume me to be extremely strange and bizarre in some 696 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,840 cases. Yeah, no, I perceive you as 697 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,600 strange. I also perceive myself as 698 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760 strange. I hate nothing more than someone 699 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,240 saying I'm weird. I'm crazy. 700 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,520 Yeah, but. That's just, yeah, I'm just 701 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,880 super. Ran Cringe. 702 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Anyway lesbians that's it for today we will speak to you next 703 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,680 week and if you are stalking or you have a stalker let me know I 704 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 want to hear. We love you buddy guys, see you. 705 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,880 Bye bye.