Hello. Hi everyone.
Welcome to the Lesbian Supper Club podcast.
Before we just had to sort out the mics.
I was saying because Freya was laughing, because I was in a bit
of a Strop with the mic like hanging in between my legs.
Because as you'll know if you follow us on social media,
particularly Instagram at the Lesbian Supper Club pod, you
would have seen that we couldn't record last week because the.
Laptop broke. Oh, it was so shit.
Actually, it was really. Shit because of someone called
Freya Evans. You know what, I'm actually not
going to take the blame for this because I put the bed.
I put the laptop on the bed to save it from getting stepped on.
And as you moved the laptop. You put the laptop, as you often
done, on the absolute edge of. As you often done.
As you often do yeah, on the absolute edge of the bed.
So even if the dog jumps off, I really.
Don't think anyone cares. I really don't.
I care. I care.
I want everyone to know the reason that we couldn't record
last week was because of you, because you are.
Does it make you feel good? No.
But does it make you feel good? It.
Does actually why it feeds me, but why?
Because let me tell you why, because I would have told you
multiple times before the laptop fell off the bed to either put
your laptop on a counter side, so not on the floor nor on the
bed if you're not specifically using it at that point.
You are the person with the bedside table.
It's not my fault that the bedside table is absolutely
rammed to shit. You could buy yourself a bedside
table. I couldn't.
I couldn't put a bedside table. You'll have to get out of bed
then and put it on the kitchen table or put it on one of the
many shelves that we have in the living room because we have.
Annoying me so much that I actually feel like throwing this
mic at the window like. Well, throw the laptop at the
window, just go through. It yeah, I will.
Because then you're you're because this is the only time.
We've had to. I've also had to deal with about
four weeks guys worth of literal stress because Freya, right?
Also beside it, no. I don't think it's actually
funny. Freya, having had, you know,
dropped her iPhone multiple times, which isn't the primary
all do it, but the back was smashed to literal smithereens,
decides that she's then, which she does on a weekly basis
because she still has a slight sense of OCD, to bleach the
bath. And when I tell you this girl
bleaches the bath like it gets bleach.
Yeah, so she's bleached the bath.
She's filled the bath up slightly with bleach water.
She has her very cracked open back, iPhone in her huge hoodie
front pocket leaning over the bath.
Can I also tell you that two weeks prior to this, the phone
had fallen in the bath and we'd managed to savour it and dry it
out. Classic rice.
She then repeated the same thing two weeks later, leant over the
bath with a bar full of bleach. Actually, the iPhone falls in
again somehow. By the way guys, this is not
Freya's fault. It's not the the phone then.
Breaks. It's not my fault.
Classic. I'm the one that has the
insurance and sorts it all out. So I had to go through the whole
insurance thing for her, get the phone replaced for her.
We then have multiple issues with the E SIM, which has then
been causing you issues for the last 2 1/2 weeks.
Yeah, so it's been a constant technical glitch our life.
Over the last it's been so fucking shit.
Right guys, we're getting into the topic now.
Grouch has had her rant. Yeah, Jesus Christ, Grouch is
really on the fucking Grouch train today.
I guys, I need fucking saving. I know there's going to be two
sides to this audience. One side will sit here and go I
am Freya this is me I feel seen and the other side will be on my
like AKA grouch's side and go I get it, someone else that I'm
around does this all the time and yet it is absolutely
infuriating. OK, we just.
All I have to say to that is just chill out and maybe you
should be drinking the trip Right now I'm drinking a trip
CBD infused lemon basil lights that's.
My favourite flavour. So good.
It's the best flavour for sure. And it genuinely does chill me
out a bit as well. Like it feels just like nice and
light and I fucking need it. So I'm going to have like 10 of
them. Please do.
Hopefully it chills you out into complete silence.
Submission, but I've been absolutely fine.
Freya, I'm literally not getting into this with you right now.
So guys, it's been a bit of a hectic week because we broke the
laptop, drove down to Cornwall to see Freya's mum.
That was fun. Ended up then going down to our
place in Cornwall, which is, by the way, our only place, which
was a really cheap place that we renovated.
Because I know some people are sticklers for believing that
we're like privileged white. Girls I know.
So we ended up going down to like our place in Cornwall,
which we are now selling because we had to get some documents.
We got down there, the weather was bad, even though the weather
was really nice. And then we had an opportunity
come up in London that we missed out on because there was.
No, don't. It was an opportunity to where
girls like the thought of it, yeah, makes me so like
depressed. If you girls knew, if you girls
knew what we missed out on, I genuinely think that you, you
would, I would hear this, the cries.
You dig the hole for us. Yeah, push us in and be like,
there you go. So I can't really focus on that
too much because that was sad. It's been a really busy week,
hasn't it? Freya, do you want to take the
pleasure of telling the audience?
So guys, I swear Cornwall is cursed for us.
Like because we also found out via our neighbour as well.
So besides the builders being perverts, we also discovered the
other day. I mean I'm not accusing, but
money went missing from Cornwall, didn't it?
Which we forgot. We had basically had some cash
that my one of my parents had given me when we'd first moved
in a few years back to help us buy furniture that we had left
in the kitchen drawer. Like at the back of the kitchen
drawer. When we went back down after a
few weeks, some of it was gone. Yeah, but me and Freya's
memories are so bad. The thing is, is that like, but
I've said it before, I guess like myself, like I'll be like,
no, I must have, like, Nah, I must have so.
Yeah. No, I really don't think I did.
And all of it's kind of coming together.
I think the main thing is, is that it, I know that we've said
it before to you guys, but like we feel for you, the people that
are in like the smaller villages and the smaller towns, because I
think because we're so used to how liberal people are in London
that. Not all the time, but.
Not all the time. Majority of the time that is.
We do get shocked when we go back to places like Cornwall
because you're more than likely to run into a dickhead.
Yeah, right. Even in Cornwall, when people
are trying to be supportive, they don't realise actually how
offensive they can be. There's also a rumour going
round that we have broken up, which is just.
In Pornwall. Funny, it's not even like a
social. Media break up on the daily, but
like, not for anyone else to know about.
We literally never do. We've never broken up in our
whole relationship, which I think is like really rare for
lesbian relationships or like any relationship.
But yeah, there's just this really weird rumour going around
Carbis Bay that. These that we've broken.
Up. Broken up.
So that's weird, yeah. But yeah, we were exposed to a
very strange in very strange individual, weren't we, Freya?
A few. Days ago, weird.
I mean, it was, it was just weird.
I mean, I felt really bad because like my mom, little
Jilly, she is so cute, right? And but she also likes to make
me hang out with all of our friends whenever we go and visit
her. So like I won't see her for
months on end and then I'll go over to her place for like 2
days and then she's like oh so and so is going to come over and
then we're going to go over to theirs.
And I'm like oh Mama, I just came here to see you.
But anyway, there are these really cute neighbours of hers.
It's like older couple. They are adorable.
Like, they're like the cutest, sweetest people.
They're like two of her favourite friends.
Yeah. Yeah, like.
That I have of her. Yeah, exactly.
And then so they invite us over for a drink and we'd had the
longest day. This was the day as well where
we missed out on that fucking opportunity.
It was just whatever and we just had dinner and I'd opened up a
bottle of red and I was like, right, well, we'll just bring
this over to their house and go into their garden.
Just. Have a drink.
Yeah, yeah. And we went to go and join them
and she had the neighbour had her daughter who is like in her
40s, fifties and and her husband there.
Can I just say within two minutes of meeting this guy?
Do you ever just get a vibe She fucking?
It was Oh my God. So I've actually had an, I've
had a headache since speaking to him about a week ago.
Met him within the 1st 2 minutes.
Is one of these guys right that you know, And I said to my mum
later, I was like, do you not think he was just like, no, I
really didn't think he was going to be like this.
And let me tell you, it happens to me and Scarlett all the time
because straightaway we had to get into the topic of
conversation about our house because the neighbourhood asked
us about it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even
brought up the fact that we were selling this house because I
know what men like that get like with women who are successful,
especially young women with no man their.
Egos already fall into. That Oh my God just what a
fucking knobhead. Like he was just.
So as soon as he found out that we were selling a property that
by the way, was like the cheapest property that I could
have found, like I'd had a tiny, tiny bit of savings, and I took
the risk to take that tiny bit of savings and spend it all and
spend it all. And we did, we, we literally
grafted our little asses off during lockdown and it made us a
bit of a profit like that is it right.
So it's not like this is some big thing anyway.
He doesn't know the detail nor does the detail matter.
So in competition, he then has to quickly tell us that he's got
a 22 foot boat. And I'm thinking, I literally
couldn't give a fuck, but thank you for letting me know.
And somehow, somehow we got onto the subject of having an
electric car because we were saying that the infrastructure
down in Cornwall for electric cars is nowhere near as good as
London. Now I just want to put like APSA
out there to how problematic this world is, right?
So personally I believe that in my very strong opinion that
being a vegan is one of the best ways you can help a this planet
and B minimise suffering to animals.
So one of the reasons why I don't eat meat is because I am
so emotionally attached to any living thing that I can't not
eat meat, right? But everyone has a choice and
that is their choice there. There's a lot of things about
this world that you can do. You can make choices that you
believe lessen the impact on various things, whether it be
like socio economic impacts, climate change impacts,
political impact, but there are always going to be complications
or implications to the choices that we make.
So we have an electric car. The main reason we have an
electric car is because of congestion charges in London so.
Fight the pollution in London as.
Well, to help fight the pollution, and also because the
car has dog mode. Yeah, you guys know that.
We're fucking devoted to that dog.
And the Peace of Mind that dog mode gives me is like, yeah,
that's like everything to me, right?
But I'm not completely blind to the implications that electrical
vehicles have. They are not a complete Bo and
end all option comparatively to diesel nor petrol cars.
And I've never been under that illusion.
OK, so we briefly say to this guy, oh, the infrastructure is
really bad, have an electric car, do you?
That's gonna piss me off. That's gonna piss me.
Off as I don't give a fear whether it pisses you off here
we. Oh my God.
So we're like, yeah, we do. He starts going on.
Can I just say like this is an outward like right wing, like
benefiting off of that the suffering of others directly or
indirectly indirectly in maximum capacity type of human being a
straight white boomer like the level of privilege right that
you like you can't get any more privilege.
No, you can't. No.
So he starts to lecture me, well both of us, on how lithium
batteries are obtained as if he's not got an iPhone literally
sat on the table and as if he doesn't own a literal boat which
consumes a lot of power, oil, energy, etcetera.
As if he has never gone on an aeroplane before.
Like, do you know what I mean? Like.
I do you know what though? This all goes like he's, he said
so much, which like we're obviously not going to get into
because it's fucking long. But what I'm so sick of people
doing is that they will see you do something right and they
will. People like this will try to
make someone feel small and stupid because they think that
we believe that we're changing the earth because we're driving
an electric car. But instead of actually pointing
the finger at the larger issues that are going on within the
world, within the larger organisations, the leaders that
there are, people love to poke holes and to make people feel
small that are literally like points at.
Each other, yes, And it's so fucking dumb and it's
exhausting. Like it comes into cancer
culture right as well. Like if all of us spend as much
time pointing fingers upwards as we do each other about stupid
things we've all said in the past or stupid shit that we've
all done. I'm not talking about dangerous
stuff, I'm talking about stupid stuff.
The world would probably be a different place, but I think
everyone has got so much hate and stress inside of them.
Instead of looking and channelling that in the right
areas, we challenge it at each other and that's a really
dangerous thing. We were sat right next to the
river. I would have loved nothing more
to drop kit times off the fucking curb.
You know I'm I'm not for aggression, but in some
capacities I am. Sometimes I just need a good
sleep. Wish nothing more than my dad
being there because he would have just uppercutted him
straight into the estuary. And I would have.
I would have had he would. Have gated him he. 100% but the
best part, and this is kind of how it feeds into our wider
conversation. Love it is.
He then starts going on some other rant.
About. Population.
Population because. Obviously, Mr Wanting to save
the planet of climate change wants everyone to have fucking
children. Saying how important procreation
is, and obviously it doesn't take a fucking genius to
understand that the problem with this earth largely is the fact
we're hugely overpopulated and we cannot feed the number of
people that we have in this world.
So he goes on to ask us. I think he just realised that we
were together, hadn't we? Yeah.
If we were going to have children and we simply said, you
know, we're not sure yet, it's not something we've really
focused on too early. For I was thinking straight
away, here we fucking go. He's asking us if we're going to
have children. He then goes on to tell us how
it's an epidemic, that the white man is a dying breed.
And I was thinking, well, if that's part of you, get a
fucking shifty. I swear to God, this is how it's
disgusting. Terrific.
I was trying. I was, so I was so desperately
trying to not be in the conversation.
So I was kind of like in and out.
I was like trying to, I literally was asking the
neighbour about her flowers. I don't know anything about
flowers. I'm sadly.
We're desperately like, so to turn it on its head, he goes,
well, you have to have children. You have to.
And to turn it on its head, Freyo M do you know what?
It's actually really nice that you would encourage us to have
children because a lot of people, because we're gay, will
tell us not to. And you saw the penny drop.
And like, he was then fucking furious that he had
inadvertently supported the LGBTQ plus community.
Afraid. I was like no, no, no, no, no,
thank you. The way you said it was amazing.
But. No, thank you.
No. Thank you so much.
And he was like. No.
Oh, I said no, no, I'll give it to you.
I think that's really big of you to say that.
No, no it's not. I'm not supporting the LGBT.
Oh, this was it. The oh, are you part of the
LGBTQIA Plus 25 things community?
Fucking guys wanker. I can't say it enough.
This is a person who will say that but then it's the same as
like Trump supporters right? Or like these really right wing
Americans who are pro like but then also won't change gun law.
And it's like. You're literally outdone
yourself. Yeah, but they always say you
always want to protect your kids until they're born.
Yeah, right. Which is so true.
It's it's so fucked. Yeah, Well, that's why they're
trying to. That's why they're overriding a
lot of trans rights over in America because they believe
that it's helping the children. And yet they are, you know,
children are getting shot in schools.
So please, please make it make sense to me.
Because it just can't. I'm so fucking sick of this
earth. Like get get me to fuck off.
Like it is crazy. And people like him, honestly,
there's no talking to them, there's no arguing with them
because they will pick a fight out of everything.
So I just sat there. People like that are actually
the climate epidemic because they're breathing our air, but
they're thick. We can look outward into society
and see so many now, not enough, but so many positive role models
in the queer community, so many successful people in the queer
community, so many people living an incredible life.
But if your Direct Line of communication and experience in
this world, which is your peers and your family, are not
liberating those experiences. Oh, it's fucking hard.
And are speaking in the complete opposite.
Actually, The level of confliction that that will give
you is is insurmountable. Yeah, yeah.
No, it's, it's crazy. Because that's where your knee
jerk goes, right? It's like that is your Bible a
lot of the time. Like our parents are our Bible.
And actually I was really lucky, despite both of my parents
growing up in relatively difficult conditions, are both
separately really intelligent individuals?
Yeah, also like some intelligence, like it can't be
taught, you know, like you can. You can just be.
Bored social intelligence. Yeah, with like an intelligence.
And I do think like this whole like streetwise thing.
That's fucking that you often you.
Need that from being exposed to different pockets of society
goes a long fucking way. Yeah, it.
Does because you're bullshit. Raiders.
I've got an absolutely incredible bullshit Raider.
Love that shit, yeah. That stuff goes really quite
far, I would argue. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I think. Yeah, but ultimately, get them
to listen to this podcast to do something, get them to do any
form of research. It's really hard sometimes.
It's like banging your head against the wall.
But it does come to a point where people do understand, I
think as well. It's a big hot take here, but if
someone is outwardly homophobic and like quite a lot, like if
they always go on about gay people and how disgusting they
are, whatever, they're gay, you will not, you will not find
someone like that who isn't gay. That is internalised homophobia
to the fucking Max because it's like.
Why do you care so much? Oh.
My God, they think about gay people more than I do, and I
think about gay people all the fucking time.
Yeah, they are like. Obsessed, obsessed, obsessed.
Because it's a constant wave of thought.
It's an. Internal fight, isn't it?
Yeah, and that's why they're so. Mad about it?
It's like a diet. Yeah.
It's like as soon as you go on a diet, yeah.
And you know you can't have something.
You're fucking hungry. All the time.
Basic human psychology. I know.
Well, I've been. I've like cut out chocolate
because. I don't think that's the first
time you've. Said this on this podcast.
You cut. You cut out chocolate again.
Yeah, I've cut out chocolate again.
And this is, guys, this is actually really hard for me.
Like I have such a sweet tooth. Like in the evening after I've
had my dinner, instantly my brain goes to like pocket
sweetness in my stomach. Like I need something sweet.
And I have gotten into Mars bars recently and I put them in the
fridge and they're so fucking, which are probably are
delectable. They are so fucking good, right?
And it couldn't just be like a pocket sized Fredo.
No, it couldn't, because also with the economic crisis, I'm
not buying a fucking economic. Is it an economic?
It is an economic, yeah. Fair enough.
It actually is. Fredos are now like what £100?
I'm not going to fucking buy, I'm going to get my 4 pack of
fast bars. For.
A pound. That is fair.
Yeah. And I fucking yeah.
So I've cut it out because I'm like, no, Ginobot fryer.
You're a grown woman. You don't need this today, and
you don't need to have this in the evening after your dinner,
like a little treat. Because you know what?
You have a lot of treats in your life.
No, no, no. I want to stop you right there.
This isn't actually Freya can can we just because like this is
a bit of a trigger warning like what you're talking about here.
No one is saying for a second that you should be cutting
calories. The problem is is Freya has an
insulin problem. It's not an insulin problem.
It is darling, because it's not, I believe.
I've got 1/4 sole issue. That's it.
Quarter sole, sorry. Yeah.
Which is linked to sugars in the body though that when Freya is
caning a Mars bar sometimes at 10:00 PM at night.
It's not just after dinner, Freya.
Sometimes you get through 2/1 after dinner, one at 10:00 PM.
She's then waking up at three, 4:00 in the morning with heart
palpitations, which obviously is because of the sugar.
So this isn't about like you not, this isn't about the
chocolate. No, about what it's like.
It's not personal. It's not personal to the Mars
Bar. No, it's just eat as many Mars
bars as you want within a certain time frame that isn't
10:00 at. 9 so you're caught it. I really want doesn't spine
craving one, but but I also think that it's good to like not
from a diet perspective, but like just trying to cut down the
sugar in my intake just mainly because I want to feel my best.
I want to feel like I'm getting older and I and I want to look
my best, want to feel my best. So that's what I'm going to do.
I I get it because I used to have that same problem.
Like a real sweet tooth addict, I used to get through a packet
of Maryland cookies every morning for breakfast and then a
big bar of chocolate. After dinner.
What a good start to the day. Oh, it was.
It was fantastic. And I completely agree.
It's that thing like as soon as you put down your fork of the
savoury dinner, it starts to trickle.
In I could be so trying to. Ignore it.
Yeah, and it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger until you
crack and then you're like an addict.
But that's what I mean. I am like an addict, but it is
addictive. I'm like a gay homophobe right
now, but for chocolate. So that chocolate right now,
that Mars bar is spinning around in my head all day.
This must be how they feel. Yeah.
That gay people spinning around their heads or 100% of them
absolutely nuts, 100% cocks flying everywhere.
But This is why, yeah, I believe that they are gay.
Yeah, homophobes are gay. So it's my take.
Talking about like homophobia then and you know, internalised
homophobia, the community experiences etcetera.
A lot of you have written in and asked us to discuss being gay in
the workplace, and I'm going to assume you've asked us to
discuss this from a perspective of not being out in the
workplace. So how do you come out in the
workplace and how do you ensure that you're safe being gay in
the workplace? Look, it really I understand
that this is this is a hard thing to do.
Even if you are already out and proud in your life, there may
still be that element in you that is like, I'm in my
professional workspace and I'm scared that this is going to
tarnish something or it might be like an awkward conversation.
I've actually got a really funny story about when I accidentally
came out to the whole director of my organisation by accident
because I thought that everyone already knew.
Like, I'm so gay that I just assumed that everyone knew.
Yeah. And I remember they were doing
this. It was like this, like, big
team, like day out. And we were all sat in like the
hottest room in the fucking world.
And they did this presentation about gay rights and they had
this this show that they put on about this guy who's Aceo, but
also is like a drag queen in his spare time and all this kind of
stuff. I remember.
And then then the presentation ended.
And then anyone was like, if anyone has anything to say, just
like stand up and say it. And in the quietest fucking hall
ever, I move my chair as it screeches on the floor.
I stand up and I say when I was a gay woman instantly I heard
everyone's chair and body move like boom look I like stare at
me and I then I realised I was like shit these people didn't
know that I was gay and I was and I was looking at everyone.
I mean that everyone was smiling like it was a really good
response. It was so fucking funny how
everyone just went as soon as I said gay woman.
Necessarily a negative thing. Yeah, I still find it really
fucking. I wag my tail when another dog
dyke walks in the room 100% but it was so funny because then and
then they all gave. I was like, oh I think this is
great, blah blah. They all gave me like this like
round of applause after this finish this Irish not.
The gay round of. Applause this Irish Jan and
found me afterwards and was like, I thought I was the only
gay in here. She's like, I'm so glad to find
another dyke. I was like, that's amazing.
I was like hey. And she's like, I was like, oh,
I didn't know you were gay. I mean, I was like, she's like,
really? You didn't know I was gay.
You didn't. I was like, no, I didn't know
you were gay. I mean, but no, it was, it was
really, really funny and it was so nice.
It was a really, really positive experience.
But I understand that not every organisation is like that, and
not every organisation is as protected.
And even if it is, I understand that you want to know as well,
like how to come out. Because yeah, a lot of you
wouldn't want to come out in such like a grand fucking way of
doing it, like. Well, this is the thing.
So like I would say, first of all, your safety is everything.
So you know, for me, I've always been out in the workplace as
well because I've been extremely lucky because I've known that
the people around me have been supportive and would be
supportive. And I know that I'm backed by
policies that I will spend hours fucking reading to ensure I'm
protected. And if anyone were to even
fucking dare look at me wrong, best believe my ass is going
straight to the fucking top of HR.
So safety is absolutely everything.
So I think you need to really assess a your workplace.
So do you think it's a safe workplace?
Read up on the policies and the like pledges of your workplace.
You know that your your contract, your protections, HR
policies. Make sure that you have clear
routes of escalation. Find a friend or a contact
within HR. See if your organisation has an
LGBTQ plus group. Find allies.
You can be even an ally of the LGBTQ plus group before you even
have to be out. You could just be.
Part of the group. Just to assess the safety and
the kind of liberation, I suppose of your organisation.
And then once you've are confident in that, that's how
you then have to learn to be confident in yourself to come
out. And that rule then, you know,
we've said this before, the same rule applies to coming out in a
workplace as it does to anything else in your life of being or
coming out, you know, I. Used to just like, I think if
you just like drop in the fact that you've got a partner and
then when they ask, but then I always have to correct, yeah,
the partner thing because then I say partner.
I just say my girlfriend straight away, Yeah, or
girlfriend I just say. Fuck it.
Or my wife, My girlfriend. That's the thing, guys, like
when you're gonna come to us for advice on these things, you
know, we, you're talking to two people who like are like balls
in a China shop when it comes to homophobia.
But it doesn't mean that you can't get that.
No. And I and this.
Is I never used to be yes. So like.
So once you know you're protected, OK, let's take up a
scenario here. The Cornwall cock that we had to
deal with a few weeks ago or a few days ago, sorry, sadly
happens to be within your organisation.
And and this is the thing, these people are existing in your
organisation. You come out and this person
starts to act or treat you differently.
OK, I'm going to say what I would do.
My ass is going straight to HR and flagging it.
OK, even if I don't have proof, I'm going straight to HR and
I'm. I'm flagging it.
Yeah, I am then logging every single microaggression, comment,
behaviour, work or non work related.
So are they starting to shit on your work more?
Are they starting to micromanage you more?
You know, these are all inadvertent signs of homophobia.
That's the problem. And I'm hassling and I will not
go down without a fight. And you know, this is the thing
where you have to really understand that the organisation
in which you are in as well. If you're working for a really
small building company, for example, it's probably not going
to be that great for you if you're.
If they're not positive when you come out, I mean.
Yeah, in terms of they could be, but yeah.
If. You're working for even a medium
level enterprise. There's a lot of power to the
people. And also think about like social
media, like there's so much that like organisations will do these
days to protect themselves. But again, acknowledge.
They're doing talk about them. Yeah, but again, acknowledge the
privilege in which we are coming from because like not every
organisation is like that. No, and also like it is so
different. I know that we've got so many
American listeners and by the way, I love you all.
This is so different in America. The laws that the laws when it
comes to work in America, like you can get fired for anything.
Like you can just for nothing. You can literally back.
You're fired. But This is why I'm saying.
Problem. You know, and I'm not asking
anyone to stay closeted, but no, what is the burning desire to be
out in terms of like, if you know these people are assholes,
even even if you weren't gay, if you're telling me you're working
in a place where you know these people are assholes and you're
not protected, start looking for a new job, right?
Irrespective for sure you're gay or not.
Yeah, if you are gay, does it really matter if these fucking
bigots know if you're gay or not?
Not really. Would I, Am I encouraging anyone
to go out of their way to hide A sense of them, a part of
themselves? No, I'm not.
But I'm talking about safety here.
I'm talking about you keeping yourself protected.
But then say what? But then So what is the other
colleague that's there that's not out and is feeling bad about
themselves? Like I feel like we should be
out. The more people that are out,
the better the. Stronger, it gets the.
Stronger it gets so really I don't think that we should hide
ourselves. I don't think that we should
hide that part of our sexuality. I understand what you're saying,
like I totally do. But when you say what's the
point, well, there's a massive point because they're.
Agreed, but there could be 5. Others within their organisation
deposited as well and you need to form.
A change doesn't happen, right? Doesn't happen without people
being out, you know, they are your colleagues, your cousins,
your neighbours, your friends, your mums, your daughters,
whatever. They're all gay, right?
All of these people are gay. You, you have to be able to
express that. We understand that safety is at
like the utmost priority here. But I think it is such like a
case by case thing. Let's say for instance, then
that you are in, you are in an organisation where you feel
like, I think it'll be OK to come out right now.
We got to talk about like the steps of how you do that if you
wanted to come out in the workplace or like feeling
confident in the workplace. The thing is with me is that
like whenever people ask me about my partner, I'm always
like, yeah, she Scala. Like I always just say it as it
is completely LGBTQ plus. Lanyards are quite a.
Good, they are good. Good old rainbow around.
You a badge on your blazer that says you know I'm a lesbian.
Bring coffee. Just lesbian.
Supper club lesbian. That's such a good idea.
Let's be super club like you. Know those sorts of things are
like good because you could say you're an ally or you know, in
the UK for example, you could say it's because you're
supporting the NHS, but it could also.
Just be an annoying. I know it's so fucking annoying
not even getting into that, but like, it could be a signal to
someone else. Yeah.
So that is like small ways of doing it.
I mean my way, which isn't always necessarily the best way,
but I will look people in the eye and just say I am a lesbian.
Yeah, and if they were to even look me even in an ounce.
Strangely, after saying that, best believe I'm calling it out
the. Claws are coming.
Out. Yeah.
And I know, again, that that comes.
Yeah, I'm so blessed to know that I could do that.
And why do I know that I could do that?
Because I know that my line manager would ultimately support
me, I know that my direct leadership team would
ultimately. Support me in such a privileged
position like. Extremely, however, I also will
do that in my day-to-day life as well.
Same. So it's, you know, it's not just
like because I I truly believe. Gotta be out and proud, baby.
Yeah, well, like that bigot cunt river riverboat queen, he was
sat there saying to us that we as because our podcast is it is
an LGBTQ plus. Today, I'm just going to stop
you there quickly. Yeah, I'm going to eat my own
words here because when he asked me what our podcast was, this is
actually the first time in a long time that I felt
intimidated and not comfortable to say it is a queer slash
lesbian podcast. And I didn't, did I?
I said it's a culture podcast. I'm actually the one who said
that. Yeah, and I surprised myself
then because, but when I think about it, was it because he
intimidated me? No, it wasn't.
It was because I was embarrassed for everyone else sat around the
table. You didn't want him to have
another fucking rant though, because.
He only just started departing him.
Yeah, I really was. And I knew if I said it was a
gay or lesbian podcast, he'd go off on one again.
And that that spitting at that point and it didn't want to
expose your mum to that and I didn't want to expose your mum's
friends to that. So actually I kept quiet, not
because I felt shame in myself or I was hiding because of the
other people sat around the table.
In hindsight now, looking back, part of me does wish that I
stood up calmly, looked him in the eye and said you are one of
the biggest cunts I've ever met in my life, Picked up my wine
and walked away. And looking back now, I wish I
did. Yeah, because I'm actually angry
at myself for that. To make others comfortable, I
sat there. Yeah, and I allowed.
Someone to do it so much, we all do.
It that's the first time I've done it in a long time, and let
it be a lesson to me that I'm not gonna do it again.
But going back to what I was saying, because because I then
was like, no, it's a queer podcast.
Like it's a part of the LGBTQ plus community.
It's a lesbian podcast. He was like, do you not think
that you're better off diluting that so that you get more more
like traction and more audience? Don't you think you're cutting
out a massive audience? And I said, do I fuck think that
I'm cutting out a massive audience, honestly.
Like, I love our straight listeners, right?
But how many things do straight people fucking have?
This is a queer podcast. This is a lesbian podcast
because we don't have lesbian media.
Our shows are getting cancelled left right and centre.
There's barely any fucking films about us unless one of them is
dying. Like we have a lesbian podcast
because it's fucking needed. And pricks like you, I would
love to shove this mic so far down this fucking what was
amazing just I can't. When he said that I calmly
looked at him and I said well considering it's only been out a
few months, we've had nearly 1,000,000 listens.
No I don't think it's. And he did shut the.
Fuck up. What the fuck is he gonna say?
I saw the embarrassment on his face, honestly.
But This is why, you know, we don't encourage people to review
the podcast, Follow us for clout.
It's because of the poignant yes that serves to this community.
It's the only way we can help each other.
It's am I going to sit here and say that I don't find doing this
podcast somewhat self-serving? Of course I do.
I fucking love doing it. I love doing you all.
I'm so excited about the opportunities that not only this
brings to us but the widest community and all the things we
can do. But genuinely the point why we
started this was to fight back against cunts like this in the
world, and the only way we can do that is by doing it together.
Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah, totally.
And that's why I love, I love how everyone comes together and
everyone's like forming like friendships as well with this
community. There's a WhatsApp group by the
way, that's. Been.
Yeah, there is. I love this.
Some incredible people. If you are listening to this and
you want to be a part of it, let us know by DM ING the podcast
Instagram, which is at lesbian Supper Club pod and I will send
your number over to the to the WhatsApp.
And we're going to start dropping in on that at points as
well because I think it'll be really fun.
Yeah, honestly. We're going back to get in the
workplace. Own your share.
Yeah, it's the same advice that we say about everything it.
Is but we understand like I hear you like even if you've got us
in your ears right now on your side of your desk, I do feel.
Like I can't do that. I know that it's uncomfortable
but just know as well that my. Best advice is to have a plan in
place, understand your policy procedures, read your fucking
contract, know your rights beyond your workplace rights,
know your country's rights around protection.
You know, like in the UK, we know that there are specific
bills for LGBTQ rights. Now, are those always adhere to
in the best way? No, they're not.
But it gives you strength and empowerment to know exactly
where you stand and where your protection lies.
So that's the first thing that I would say.
I mean, look, I totally get it because like I also don't want
to make any of you feel like shit if you haven't come out of
the workplace yet because you could be the most outest and
loudest proud lesbian outside of the workplace.
So I don't like, I don't want you to feel bad for not coming
out because like I also, so I used to work in a bridal shop
and gave me the same fear that I used to feel in the PE changing
rooms at school. Is that whole thing of wondering
whether girls were going to think that was predatory because
I was a lesbian. So I felt uncomfortable.
So you never told them? Yeah.
So I never told anyone, any of the customers within this bridal
shop that I was gay because I didn't want the women to think
that I was stood in that changing room with them as a
lesbian. And even though that sounds
ridiculous, in my head, it's just hilarious.
Isn't it because like men really sexually assault women yet they
believe a lesbian were to do it? And like statistically solution
way solution, yes. But but I never told them
because I I then felt really like guilty.
I'd feel bad, like I didn't want to put them in an awkward
position. Again, what's that?
Internalised homophobia? Yeah, it.
Was yeah, it was, but that's what I mean.
But outside of this workplace, that was the outest and loudest
proud lesbian ever. So honestly, just this is the
thing that doesn't make you any less.
Gay, it doesn't make you any less proud.
It doesn't make you any less strong.
And this is this is what going back to what I was saying at the
start, you know, mid of this conversation, why do you want to
be out in the workplace? Ask yourself that.
And if you don't feel it actually worth it?
To be out to a load of colleagues that you probably
fucking hate, then don't do it. You know, and I absolutely agree
with your point about setting a precedent and trailblazing.
And OK, so there are masses of positives to doing it, but you
also don't have to be that person if you don't want to
trailblaze and be out, do that for other people.
You don't. You don't have to be.
Right. Does that mean you can't go and
slap drop and she bar at the weekend?
No, you can still go and slap. You can go slap drop and she bar
on a fucking Wednesday. Absolutely.
There'll be no one in there, but you could do it.
You know I'd be. Better off doing it when no
one's in there to be fair. I think we all need to give
ourselves a break as well of you know, we all preach about being
out, being proud, but it's everyone's, it's your own
journey. It's your own journey and
everyone's on like that. You're on like a different path
of it as well. And you may feel like you're
never going to have that strength, but believe me, you
will. And that strength does come
later on when you just accept yourself more and more and more
and you see more people that look like you, that act like
you, that are living a very similar life to you.
We are humans of like comfort with things that are familiar,
you know? So just listen to these dykes
and hopefully we can make you feel better.
Moving on now to our Horror Story, which isn't actually as
much of A Horror Story as usual, but I thought it was quite
fitting to this episode. Freya, can you please do the
honours my dear of reading this one?
Yeah. Can you give it to me please
baby? Here you go.
Give it to me. I feel like we haven't ripped
the shit out of each other that much in this one.
What, in this episode? Yeah.
Have you just forgotten the start where I literally told you
that? You're a technological.
Killer. And you pretended as if I was
like. Can I just say ever ever since
we've had this argument with this guy, I've had a headache
and it has not gone away. And my headaches have been
better the last couple of days. No, but do you know what's even
weirder? I had a dream that I took away
Scarlett's illness that day. I had a really bad headache.
You do say I'm a witch. And I've had it every day since
and she's been fine. Ever since I've had a headache
mine. OK I'm not saying they've gone
completely but I've been honestly genuinely debilitated
for the last 9 weeks pretty much.
And now we've got a fucking headache and it's all your
fault. It probably is.
And because let me tell you why I hang on to your panty thong
all night long and like, hold your bum.
I know you do. And I think I'm surging energy.
I think so. Because you do say I'm a bit of
a witch. So.
Maybe I am actually, quite literally transferring my
negative headache energy onto you.
I'm not going to apologise for it.
I'm going to give you some. Endometriosis.
Give me endometriosis. I will take, I will.
Me and Freya talk about this all the time, about how we all
become accustomed to our pain. So Freya obviously suffers with
endometriosis and I cannot for a second imagine how absolutely
horrific that is. Like it pains me to know that
someone I love so much has to suffer in that way.
Baby. Because even when I go with.
Your migraines. This is the thing, even when I
get slight period pain and I know it's it's not even to a
certain level of what it even touches the sides of what Freya
experiences. It makes me feel horrific.
And as bad as it is, I'd probably take a migraine over
severe period pain. But.
You get used to it, yeah. Whereas you're saying when you
get migraines, you say to me, how the fuck do you suffer like
this every single day? And it is strange.
It must be like a. Well I've got like a weird like
neck issue as well. It's going on the almond,
please. Pray it.
No, no, I can't. Do you know that?
Me and Liv, because Liv spends a lot of time with us because of
all the stuff that we have going on with the pod.
Liv now has an elements list for Freya where every day she writes
down Big Don's elements. And I'm actually you should.
You should. Can you write in if you want me
to post it on the story? Because God, when I tell you it
is hilarious. It's hilarious and honestly
grippy Socks for her. Yeah, I know.
Truly. Well, maybe it's just hard being
me. I've always got something wrong
with me. OK, shut the fuck up.
Anyway, this is the horror, not Horror Story.
But this is really interesting because, like, yeah, I'm going
to let you know why, OK. Hey girls, the itchy jaw that's
going on the elements list. Oh, it's not the itchy air, it's
the itchy jaw. Because usually it's the itchy
air, yeah. I have the most random situation
of my whole life. I've always been a straight
woman. Interesting.
I've never been with a woman, nor have I ever romantically
wanted to be with one. But big on the butt here girls.
Recently I met a girl from gym she's straight to and she was
always saying from the start I would marry that girl and she's
always been very flirty. I was always prude haha and
laughed a lot of it off. But as time has gone on we've
become closer. We'd be super flirty and jokly
sent nudes on occasions. What?
We have cuddled up a few times nothing else.
I think we are super fetching it when we are drinking.
Question mark I don't know are you?
The girl is proper flirty and has admittedly been open that
she fancies me. We have both said that we are
not looking for a lesbian relationship.
I mean, well, it's going to be a relationship that's.
A. That's a lesbian relationship.
I don't know if this is toxic but why does it have to be a
relationship? I feel at this point I'm just
curious. I'm sorry, this one screams of
like internal. To the back.
Girl, like no hate, but you need to do some self work here and
read up on like the emotions that you're going through
because I love what you're saying here.
You know, you're not being outwardly like problematic, but
you are being internally problematic the the things that
you've said. Absolutely, She then says.
She has said she would rather have me in her life for the rest
of her life than to ruin it but still at times has said that she
does want me and will suppress things but I don't know what we
are doing and no one will ever make a move.
PS She has now started seeing a boy again.
We both go to the same gym. It's a little community and
small. I don't know why but I don't
want to see her flirting. Please give me advice, is this
odd? OK, let me break this down for
you guys. Can I just say problem #1
actually not problem number one. I'm a lesbian, right?
I know I'm a lesbian. I don't ever see that changing,
but I'm not saying it could. I understand that sexuality can
be a journey and you know, it's, it's a spectrum.
But very much right now, and since I've come out, I have been
very much on the lesbian side. If I were to start having
romantic and sexual feelings for a man, I would no longer be
identifying as a lesbian. OK, strictly, I would say that I
was then predominantly maybe pansexual or bisexual if we were
going to need to label it. I know a lot of people don't
like labels. I do.
I like my label. I like wearing my label.
The fact she's opened this by saying I'm straight is
problematic. I mean, it's screaming of me.
Because you could say I'm questioning.
Yeah, right. But she can't even say that.
And this might she may not even realise that this is like a
thing. But then she also said I've
never been with a woman, nor have I ever romantically wanted
to be. But you have now.
So it's really interesting, but let me just break it down for
you guys. She has met a girl from the gym.
This is a classic, like it really is.
Gym is like a breeding ground for lesbians.
They're very flirty. They send nudes to each other,
but they put it on the premise of saying that it's jokey.
I mean, to be fair, actually, I was about to say I've never done
that. I've done that.
I do it to Liana, like, OK, like a random you, but it's so
different. We're like Bros.
Like these are two girls that have met together.
And we sent pics to our friends all of the time in a piss taking
way. It's very different and I know
that the jokey way is not jokey. No, I used to do this with my
first lesbian crush. Believe me to send this to you.
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Or it would be like inconspicuous.
So you try and make out like it wasn't a nude, so you'd be.
What was it like, you know? When you're like, oh, I'm in the
bath and it would be like a slight side titty pic where it's
like it could be oh, I'm in the bath, but deep down you want it
to be I'm in the bath. And I know that she's sending
stuff like, oh, look at this new underwear I got for going out on
a date with a guy and like there's under boob or like the
pussies in full. Like you don't send that to your
mate. Because actually, if you want to
send underwear shots to your friends about new underwear
you've bought, just fucking take a photo of it.
Throw it on your bed. Yeah, Do you know what I mean?
Like you're going out of your way to put it on and pose in a
certain way. We see you girls?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They cuddle as well which I
think is. Just and again, that depends on
the type of cuddle, right? It does if it's.
I know they're cuddling in a very certain way.
Yeah, and you know, there's some stroking going on, like stroking
of the arm stroking. And there's like I can.
Feel the tension in their chest. I know.
And the heavy breathing, like I'm thinking about it now, how I
used to feel laying next to. When I but she says, but she
says that she kind of wants to have her in her life.
She does want her, but she suppresses her that either girl
has said that, that she suppresses her feelings.
So I think what's happening is that you're both suppressing
your feelings. Unfortunately, you're both very
much in the same boat. It's a real problem, but.
Girls, this is a this is a classic.
This is a classic. Literally we fell in love with a
straight woman episode, right We've and any lesbian listening
to this now who's been through it, girls like back us up here.
It's the classic when you fall in love with your quote unquote
straight best friend, which is the whole like we're soulmates
and I'd rather choose us being platonic soulmates that over
exploring this sexually. And you kind of convince
yourself that, you know, the love that you feel is not
lesbian love. It is what's it called?
Twin flame? Like the one person, the
platonic twin flame. Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no. Deep down, let's be honest, you
want to fuck? But also, yeah, you do.
But also why babe? Why are you scared about this
being a relationship? Because you said but why does it
have to be a relationship? Why?
What truly like I? Actually, The thing is, she's
not scared about it being a relationship.
What she's scared is that they start having sex, right?
And they start exploring the sexual tension there.
She says. I think she.
Then has to admit to herself that what she puts in the top of
that conversation, which is straight, is it in capital
letters. No, no, no.
Oh. OK.
I thought she put it in capital letters.
The emphasis on straight is no longer potentially A narrative
that she can. Explore the only thing that I
would say is that this the other girl, even though you said that
she's just started seeing a boy, you know, I do believe that
she's probably doing that overcompensation, overcompensate
and also probably make you jealous in the gym because you
said here that she says that she admittedly open.
She admittedly has been open and said that she fancies you.
So I think that she's made the first move there and I don't
know what your response was, but you said, we have both said that
we're not looking for a lesbian relationship, darling.
But she just said that she you cuddle, you send nudes, you want
each other in your lives. Like honestly.
You have to have a lesbian relationship like.
You know what? It sounds like they both fancy
each other. Maybe they do want to do that,
but I do think them having to jump straight to that is too
much. Just have a bit of fun and
explore and have an open conversation about the fact that
you're clearly both adults. You have these, you know, sexual
feelings for each other. Yeah, You can explore that and
remain friends as long as you're both sensible adults having
sensible. Conversations feels like a very
safe conversation for you to have because it's already said
that she fancies you, right? So I think you can just say,
look, I I've always believed that I was straight, but I have
the. This is new territory.
This is new territory for me. You're really interesting to me.
I really, I, I find you really attractive and I'd love to be
able to like explore that with you.
I'm not putting a label on anything.
I'm not saying that we should go dating.
But what I'm saying is is that I kind of, it would be nice to see
what would happen here if we were a bit more open minded
about it. Absolutely.
And you know what, like I've, you know, I've tried to suppress
my feelings as well. You told me that you were
suppressing yours, but I've seen you flirting with this guy in
the gym and it kind of breaks my heart a bit because we.
Don't have to say it breaks not heart.
You can just say you know. In the light hearted, yeah, it's
like. It's emphasised to me that this
is something that I want to explore because seeing you as
someone else is actually, you know, heightened.
How And then maybe say, how would you feel?
Like maybe say, how would you feel if I was flying with a guy
in front of you? Well, this is the thing again,
going back to my situation of when I was like, obsessed with
my best friend for four years, we'd both do exactly the same
thing. We'd kind of spill too far into
the emotional lesbian side of the friendship.
Then we'd go out on a night out and use guys to make each other
jealous. God it's so bad I actually
wanted to die. I would too.
Because I'd see her kissing men and I'd be like, I would drag my
nipples across burning coal to be that stinky sweaty.
Hairy ridden. Man yeah.
Oh my God, the pain, girls. Why is that pain so bad?
Oh, it's so bad. It actually makes sure.
Like it makes your vagina go up into your heart, like, you know
what I mean? Like, you know that feeling?
It's awful. So.
But this is classic. This is the thing.
You said I don't know, this is toxic.
It is toxic. I think it is.
I think.
It can be a bit fun, depends how long it goes on for, no?
But what I'm saying is she's like, do you think that this is
toxic? I think right now.
If your feelings towards yourself are toxic.
Yes, that's what I mean. I think the way that you're
treating this situation to yourself, it's toxic.
It's toxic. You need to be kinder to
yourself. You need to be more open with
yourself before you're open with her.
Yeah, because you need to accept that you fancy her a bit.
This has never happened to you before.
It could be completely nothing, but also you could have.
You could explore something incredible and grow from your.
Experience. What's that called?
By curious? By curious, Yeah.
So no one, you know, you could explore this with this girl,
have incredible sex for six weeks, decide that that's not
for you and end up with a man and be with him for the rest of
your life. No one is saying that you can't
do that. No one is saying that you
shouldn't do that. No one is saying that you're
wrong for doing that. You could explore this with her.
I genuinely don't think you've got anything to lose.
Also, because you've already got these feelings, so is she
clearly then you know when she's like, Oh well, I don't want it
to you're. Experiencing this with her, you
will. If you don't explore this with
this person, it will happen again in your life.
Because if you're open to that, clearly more than what you
realise, you will attract that again.
And send her this podcast. Yeah.
And again, I'm not saying for a second that you aren't, you
know, all of the things that you thought you were throughout your
life. That's not saying that those
things are a lie. You've just evolved and a
situation has presented itself to you and go for it.
I mean. That's for you, babe.
Also, can I just say a lesbian relationship?
It's fucking incredible, babe. So you know what, if you end up
falling down that rabbit hole, so be it.
Like it's. Not the worst.
It's not the worst. It ain't.
It's that I would argue it's the best thing that will ever
fucking happen to you in your life.
It's the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life, so.
It's the best thing that continues to happen to me,
except for when you drop your phone in SO.
Annoying. No, I mean, we're here for you.
I want to hear. I want to hear the update of
this. Yeah, I do.
I really want to hear the update.
I want to know I might start going to your gym, can you tell
me where it is? I've got a feeling she's
American. I I don't know where she's.
Going let me read. I think the English because if
she. Isn't American and she's in
England. I think.
I think English is her second language because she said saying
a boy not seeing a boy. Said that I would say something
like that because I actually type and can't be bothered to
correct myself. But the advice from from us is
like really what you have to lose?
OK, the opinions of maybe some of your friends that like are
going to judge you if they're doing that, they're not your
fucking friends. Maybe you're going to yeah,
maybe you're going to lose some male attention.
Who fucking cares? The girlies do it better.
Like, OK, your family, you haven't mentioned anything.
But you don't even have to go that far.
You don't need to go that far. You can just, like, start
accepting those feelings for yourself, bring up that
conversation in a really nice and open way, and then just see
what happens. But we're here for you Every.
Yeah. This community is amazing.
You'll find support, you'll find people.
And like, believe me, you are nowhere near alone.
Because I reckon 90% of the people who are listening to this
right now would have gone through exactly the same as you.
And the 10% who haven't gone through it in that way have gone
through it in a very similar way.
Exactly. And for our straight listeners
as well, we do. We do love you too.
Oh, we do. Love you.
No, no, no. Yeah.
I'm not saying that, no, no. I'm saying for the other
percentage, Australia. The 0.0 guys, I do want to say
one thing. What?
Which I'm so happy we've got to this level. 90% of our audience
from the lesbian supper club identify as female.
Amazing. OK, trans, trans folk, non
binary folk. It's got nothing to do with you.
I fucking love you. You're like welcome as much and
if not more than anyone else. Yeah, yeah.
But the men, the straight men to vanish.
The fact that there's like only 10% of them I that feeds me.
Yeah, I mean, like, don't get me wrong, I really like the fact
that men listen to this pod, right?
Because I think it's more like education.
And I don't mean to sound patronising when I say that, but
I mean exposure. How can you?
Possibly understand a society in which is so different you do
need. Educated.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure, yeah.
But it's like I. Don't want to be educated on the
strike straight white man's society because there's no,
there's nothing benefiting me by understanding that.
Books and tits and beer. I mean, we love all those
things, true. There is a straight man deep
down in the. Summer screaming to get out.
He's called Hey. Yeah, we love you all, like all
of you that listen and support. You're all incredible.
And I think our straight listeners are just as valuable
to us as our queer listeners because, like, you're going off
undoubtedly, and then taking some of these topics and having
really important conversations. With your peers, Yeah, exactly.
Like I love that. But before we go as well, we're
going to be doing a small, very low key event in the very near
future. Yeah.
So when we know the details. Of eight weeks, probably we're.
Sending it out to you guys. Gonna be a ticketed event.
There's probably gonna be only about 50 tickets, but before we
get our little asses organising, can you let us know if you'll
actually want to come? It would be like a supper club
type event. We're going to get a hot DJ.
Yeah, hot DJ, we already know some drinks, I know some drinks,
some aperitivo. So.
A really cool venue so if you're interested and want to do like a
supper club event with us. Yeah, let us know.
Go. Let's do this.
And there's also another really exciting thing that we've got
coming up as well, which we can't tell.
You, which you'll know very soon.
But I'm screaming inside. Gaze.
This is the epitome of the queer dream.
Yeah, let's put it that way. What?
Dream. Pussy pussy pussy.
No I just want to finish one thing has anyone else seen on
TikTok? Oh my God, that woman.
Who duet the Billie Eilish song? The new one Go enjoyment.
I'm sad again. Don't tell my boyfriend if you
don't know what we're going on about.
Find out. Love you gays.
I'm straight. Love you all love.
You love you. I will speak to you next week.