Lesbians, you will know this voice.
It is the one the only Amy's Spalding.
I still do that. Months on, I'm still doing I.
Love, are you still doing it? I didn't know that that was
still ongoing. Yeah, I'll bring it back.
Bring it back. Yeah.
I just want something new to be honest.
I feel like you just go like diva.
Yeah, diva Diva darling is always diva darling got him posh
it's. Babe, you are posh though, like
you can't. You may as well lean into it.
Like if you're posh, you're posh.
Yeah, posh. The allegations are very strong
on the posh front. Babe, if you guys have probably
already heard the eye kisser girl special that we did with
Amy, Eva, Kara and that was how long ago now?
My God, what happened June? God, was that June or May last
year? Probably May.
It was May last year, which is insane.
We're almost up to our like one year anniversary of having you
on. I think it's so nice because I
remember when I kissed a girl first came out and I remember
seeing you and thinking this girl got it.
This girl got it, got got it and it's.
Being mental health issues. It being fucked in the head and.
You'd be right. Yeah, but I think that like you
can't have one without the other.
Like you're either. You can't be successful and
mentally well, entertaining, darling.
It. Is yeah.
And I think that that's why I'm so interested to have you on
here, because I know that everyone is like, so interested
to see what you've done. I know that you guys probably
have seen what Amy's been up to, but I love just how much you
have thrown your absolute pussy into everything like you have
gone. Hardcore bulls to the woes Yeah,
you have I to be honest, it's been very natural.
It's not something I've like it's funny.
I was talking about like my previous jobs earlier and oh I
never put a fan. Mostly ADHD vibes like this.
Although I'm not doing it very well in the sense I'm beating
myself up every day about how much better I should be handling
everything and like doing more on the To Do List is ever
growing but. Wait, do you?
So you do beat yourself up still?
Oh my God, Yeah. Do you feel that you beat
yourself up even more now? Yes, yeah.
But it's crazy because then I'll be like reflecting on my wins
and stuff that I've done and I'm like, oh, hang on a minute,
Maybe I should pause and actually like.
So you get my something to do that that's really good.
Well, I'm not I'm. Saying I should and then I
don't. Oh.
Right. OK, so you're saying what you
should do, you don't actually do it.
No, you genuinely should, though.
I mean, maybe this podcast episode can be a reflection for
you so that you leave feeling like, fuck, yeah, I did all
that, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it really should be.
I mean, I tell myself every day I should think that that, but I
just don't. Yeah, no, I know.
But then I'm very much the same. Like I struggle with that.
And then I think actually, what have I done so far and how do I
get here? And then think as well.
I think the best thing to do is to like think of yourself like 2
years ago. Oh my God.
Yeah. Even a year ago, like, well,
maybe is it. Yeah, yeah, even like a year.
Ago. Yeah.
Well, let's, let's go back to a year ago, though.
This is when, like, everything started for you.
So you were like fresh off the boat where I kissed a girl.
You didn't really have like an online presence.
No I mean I used to shit post and just like be honest.
Pretty much what I do now. Not much has really changed.
You just had a following. I just have following.
I'm like listening and I'm like, which is a blessing and a curse
really, because it's now all my like random ass stories and Tik
Toks. Yeah, a few more eyes on them.
Yeah, but that's a good thing. Like they definitely need eyes
on them because I enjoy watching them.
I enjoy it. But I think that like now, so
like the the first time that we spoke, you're fresh off the
boat, you had your show and then you got like thrown, I would
say, into the deep end. And that's what TV is going to
do to babes, because it's like everyone has seen it.
Right, Yeah, it's crazy. I don't think we kind of
realized because with the boys, I don't know if it felt like it
made that much of A splat like, well, it obviously did make a
splash and it was the very first like gay dating show or quit
dating show. But like, lesbians are ride for
lesbians. Famously so like.
Yeah, crossed, crossed the. Ponds and everywhere like it's
crazy it's funny as well. The show obviously like only
came out in the UK and now it's like showing in Australia and
America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's been picked up by like their own, you know, channels
and I put on my story. I was like Oh my God, Australia
like it's streaming on this platform binge.
And then everyone was like babe, we all got viruses and fuck dial
laptops up. We've seen it.
We. All had the VPN.
Yeah yeah yeah, exactly that. I'm like, okay, that's the mean.
I mean, yeah, you're like, fuck, I thought it's gonna get more
for us cunts. Already seen it.
I think that this is what's interesting though, because
like, TV does have that, like Mass Effect.
And I think that it came at the right time as well, because
famously lesbians just have never had that representation.
And now all of a sudden it's fucking everywhere and everyone
wants to be a lesbian, which is great because, like, we are
great. There's nothing wrong with it.
We're fucking so much better than the straights.
I'm sorry. I hate to break it to everyone.
But I was saying it feels like it's such a long time coming,
and it's almost like, why did it take so long for people to like,
clock into the like, Lesbians like to see lesbians.
Imagine if we had that when we were growing up.
I know. Literally.
And it's like, but it's it makes sense in the sense that like we
live in a patriarchal society and like lesbianism, the idea of
itself is like so far from the male gaze.
No, there's no man involved in that situation ever.
So like, why is that ever going to be lesbians in the media and
in the forefront of. Everything.
Yeah, it offends them. Exactly.
Well, it's got nothing to do with them, exactly.
Yeah. And then so from the show then
so take me back like you, God, what have you actually done
since here though? Because your brand has been
popping off, you've been doing different, like you've been
doing a little bit of like presenting recently too as well.
So like what? What would you say with your
like highlights like since we had that chat?
That is such a good one. I mean, to be honest, it seems
like every day I'm putting a new hat on, which is fun, but heavy
is the head. Heavy is your head, babe.
Yeah, but. It's really fun, like I'm
dipping my toes in like literally everyone's pools and
it's just exciting really. I kind of said like 2 years ago
I quit my job like this like 9 to five job.
And I was like, could you go freelance?
And I'm just going to like do whatever comes my way, try some
things. I was like, I wanted to be like
an extra in like some TV shows and stuff like that and then end
up just being on ATV show. So like, yeah, doing like
presenting. There's like some really
interesting conversations going on that I don't know if I'm
allowed to divulge. Oh, really?
Much like. Bookie stuff like very fun,
yeah, which is really fun and really exciting and like.
I feel like it's very well suited to your character.
Yeah, I mean, growing up I loved the arts and I loved drama, but
I very much went, decided like to go down the science route.
Like I went to like University of Leeds, got a medical science
degree. I mean that, that that checks
out for people who want to go into acting.
I say yeah, do. A medical science degree?
Yeah, cut open some dead human bodies and then did.
You do that? Yeah, we did.
How did you find it? So crazy.
Really. Yeah.
I don't know if I could do that, you know, like I don't.
Smell or like actually, and it would always be like the day
after, like sports night. So I was famous in the costume
and like it would be like sports, like sports night at the
club or whatever. I would have to go in like
hungover a shit and then just smell.
No, I can Joe. What?
When I worked in a cafe, even being hungover a shit trying to
make the tuna Mayo in the morning was enough, let alone
cutting over a dead body. But it was really interesting
and like I've very much got like that analytical mind well.
I want to go into your mind in a little.
Bit good bitch. Scary.
Good luck babe, good luck. I've got my tweezers out.
I'm going right in every single fold.
Every little every labia. Yeah, maybe every little labia
you've got real. Yeah.
I mean, acting makes a lot of sense for you.
Obviously you have been doing like a lot of theatrical Tik
Toks. Yeah, it's all about the
theatrics. You are basically a twink.
Yeah, I am a twink, famously. But yeah, I just love it.
I love to like randomly do little bits.
Yeah. And obviously your jewellery
company has been in it's. Been really, you know, taken
off, which I'm so gassed for. And it's like, given the
motivation to keep going with it, I've been doing jewellery
since like, since lockdown, so like 2021.
And then I've always every year on my, in my notes that when my
New Year's resolution was like, do something with the jewelry,
do something with the jewelry. And it's like every year I come
round and be like, oh, didn't do that.
And then now it's like I finally say that I fucking did it.
Yeah, exactly. Fucking did it.
It's. Hard work, but it's so.
Rewarding. Yeah, so rewarding.
And it's like it's making waves as well.
Like I've seen so much about your rings.
I know one. Of them that was like Speaking
of like pinch me moments that was.
Did you? So did you know that Renee Rapp?
Yeah. So her stylist reached out and
was like, hey, like I'm the styling Renee and we just like
would love to put her in some of her rings, like the diet cunt
diva ones. We sent her a bunch, yeah.
And she's like, and like, she'd love to like, have them.
And we were like, literally take them literally just like, yeah,
we like, we've included some for terror as well, yeah.
It's so, so cool. And was it live that got you,
JoJo Siwa back in the day? My yeah, JoJo Siwa.
JoJo Siwa, That, that was hilarious.
Delavines got one as well, so it's like.
It's fucking amazing. Which is a Chapel.
Chapel Julia Fox I wanna get a cunt ring on Alex Consani.
Oh, it needs to have just pass away and then you can.
Just my hair is done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, as Jess likes to call it, eternal sleep, Yeah, Peaceful,
out you go, you know, and I think that like you having that
is a really good like duality to what you're doing too as well,
because it means that you can be a bit more behind the scenes
because it I can imagine it's I mean, it is quite a lot of
pressure always being centrefront, babe, you'll have
attention, but. Like, I mean, oh God, I love it,
but. Being centrefront all the time
and you feel like your whole life depends on that.
Exactly stressful and also having a raging ADHD.
My rejection sensitivity is insane.
OK, so let's talk about this. So like one of the things I was
saying to Amy, I was like, I really want to talk ADHD because
I've spoken about it on here before, but never with a guest
and never with someone that's got raging ADHD just like me.
And I think it's really interesting, like what you're
saying because, like, I can relate so much to the way that
your brain works with your business, too.
Yeah. And that like beating up the
rejection sensitivity makes me honestly, Oh my God, like.
It's so frustrating because again, means I can't celebrate
my wins 'cause I'm only focusing on my losses.
Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I need to
just. But it's really interesting
because I was looking up the other day, obviously there's
like there's lower serotonin in an ADHD brain, which is why it's
way easier to get like addicted to certain things.
And it doesn't even mean in like an unhealthy way, but it's like
anything that will give you like a dopamine here will be like
crack. Well, probably quite literally
crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a need for just constantly trying to seek that
dopamine. But that can feed into again,
probably why you love having that like attention to because
I'm very much the same. Like I love having like the
videos on you're doing whatever and because it is feeding like
an area of the brain that is kind of lacking.
Yeah, no, it's really funny and like it's funny.
My girlfriend always says she's like, we're both gonna have a
good day of famous had a TikTok that does well because like it's
like the it's just completely like, so do you.
Feel ignore if your TikTok doesn't do well.
Do you get rejection sensitivity?
Do you feel like oh fuck definitely.
What goes through your head? Like what kind of emotion?
Do you? Oh my God.
Everyone hates me, wants me, Dad.
Everyone thinks I'm unfunny. Unhart, I'm like gross so.
It makes you then doubt yourself.
Right, very much that. And then I'm like doubting
everything and I'm like, Oh my God, like this is now I've made
this like now my life. And did you like ring stuff as
well? If we're not having like as good
of a sales week or like some things aren't going right, I'm
like, Oh my God, what have I done?
I need to go like back to medical science.
Do you get in a lab? Do you get in like friendships
and relationships as well? Everything.
Absolutely. Everything I'm really trying to
fucking combat that babe, because it's hard.
It's tough and it's I, I need to be like afraid.
I don't be a fucking psychopath like I because you can get, you
can also kind of convince yourself of of that rejection
too. Yeah, yeah.
And sometimes I'm literally pulling out my ass and it's.
Like yeah, fully out the ass. Like, take a beat, take a step
back. Do you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, zoom out a little bit.
Yeah. And it's like you actually are
doing really well. And it's not a trajectory just
because you have a little dip. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly. But it's, I mean, I mean, like,
famously, it is a mental disability.
Yeah. Famously for a reason.
Yeah. Because we do feel like we're
unable to process things in the way that quote UN quote, like,
well, neurotypical people do, right?
Which is the rest of the world is designed for neurotypical
people. They're not designed for people
like us. And it's fucking exhausting as
well, though. Do you ever just find sometimes,
like you have to go into a room and just let your face just go?
Oh. Yeah, I just like, I just so
struggle like one thing that my biggest thing on my ADHD is my
executive dysfunction. Like it, I look on the outside
like I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but I'm frozen half of the
day. Like actually like physically
frozen. I get so frustrated with myself
and there's such a self hatred there of like, just do your
tasks. Like I'll be like, I'll do, I'll
have a really good day of work and I'm like, Oh my God, life is
good. There are cathedrals everywhere
for eyes to see. Like it's as simple as just
sitting down and doing your fucking tasks.
But I just don't. No, I just don't defame.
It doesn't compute and it's like fuck me.
It makes me like throw myself against the wall.
No, I know it's. Kind of sexual.
But I'd like to watch you just like.
Have to. Go hand by your neck.
Oh my God. Go on, lend yourself over
cringey take dogs. Yeah, Oh my God.
When they're doing like a POV, you just come over.
You need to start doing those without POV.
I've just rejected POV. I have executive dysfunction,
throwing myself up against the fucking wall that I would say
I'm I'm the same as you. That is the one thing I'd say
that really fucking annoys me. But the worst thing you can ever
do is beat yourself up for it though, because yeah, the freeze
you. People say that and then I'm
just like try and stop me. Yeah, you can try.
I'm literally like, yeah, the brain haven't the brain it.
Has a mind of its own. It's not even our mind anymore.
It's been taken over by the ADHD and it's, it's fucking hard.
But you're not medicated, are you?
I am Oh, you wanna remember to take them?
But I'm on a different type of medication I'm on.
Most people are on like direct stimulants like Elvans or like
Richland. I'm on indirect stimulants.
So that's kind of like, it basically means that I'd have to
take it like consecutively and I wouldn't feel the effects until
a month and basically just add more like dopamine channels to
my brain as opposed to like adding more dopamine.
So it's like, right, a delayed thing, which is good because it
means it's less like it's more stability.
So I don't like crash out, crash out at the end of the day.
I mean, I've never taken a stimulant.
So yeah. So I don't know, I'm like really
curious about it. I'll give you one of my Yeah.
Can I put this on it? I'll give you one of my Yeah.
You can take it tomorrow morning and see how you feel.
Yeah. It's like, I mean, The thing is
about it is that it is fast acting.
Anyone can take it for like one day.
You don't have to consecutively take it every day.
It's not going to fuck you up. Yeah, I do, because I genuinely
feel like I can't function. I think that's not strong enough
because I take it every day. Well I'm but also I've got ADHD
I forget everything. I mean it's not good right to
give someone with ADHD pills that they got to remember to
take at a certain time. Dyslexic, and they've called it
dyslexia. Well, exactly.
But it's it's like the cure for dyslexia.
For it to kick in the cure, they have to do algebra.
No, it's exactly that. It makes no sense, but.
Oh no, I'm I'm a dumb. I'm a dumb cunt.
What algebra I was? Thinking.
I was thinking dyslexia was to do with numbers.
Is it No, you can be you can be numbers numerically dyslexic.
Called dyscalculia I've got so it makes sense see look the the
pills have worn off now dyslexic but having to do a spelling.
Like, yeah, yeah, exactly like reading a fucking Bible.
I don't. Know read the Bible and then the
cure. Yeah, it's it is hard, but I
feel like This is why it's really good to talk about it
though, because you're very successful.
You've always got stuff going on.
I've always got stuff going on. I have managed to still do the
things that I've wanted to do. Yeah, but don't let it stop you.
That's clear. That is the theme of where I'm
trying to come from. Is like.
Don't let it get in the way of. Success it.
Yeah, exactly that. And like they're a.
Bend your life. Yeah, it's so true.
And also like, it makes me think differently for sure.
Yeah, so created. Yeah, I always say that it's
like my greatest downfall, but my biggest superpower.
Yeah. But honestly, on bad days, I'm
like, this is literally the worst thing ever.
It's not superpower at all. And I just.
I just, it's that thing of like, what if, what if my brain was
normal? Oh my God, the things I would
achieve. Can you imagine how fucking
boring you'd be? Yeah, that's probably true.
You know what I mean? I wouldn't shut the fuck up.
I mean, I'd be quiet all the time, I guess, yeah.
Yeah, true. Everyone applauds.
I would like. Yeah, I was like, please, I'd be
so much more sensible as well. I just feel like you probably
wouldn't have pushed yourself to do the business.
Never. I just, you would have never
gotten on a line bike. That's another thing I want to
fucking talk about. You're on a line bike.
So Amy showed up here and I could just see her circling
around with the most like, dazed look in her face on a line bike
and I was laughing so much that I just didn't even say anything.
I just kind of watched stuff in the window.
I was like looking at all these big Bay windows, like I bet
they're watching me right now. Watching me.
Shoot me. I know.
And I like pulled up and I was like, which number is it?
And I was like, oh, the one I'm literally stopped outside.
Yeah, yeah. No, I enjoyed it.
You've kind of got a bit of a thing going with line bike at
the. Moment Oh yeah are.
They are they interested in you. The company, yeah.
Well, we've done, I've done, yeah, I've done one that I don't
know, I just love it, honestly. I did it for free like.
You need to start doing just putting random shit in the
basket and every single day it's a different.
Thing I've got but growing. There's a camera roll.
I've got an album in my camera roll.
It's just random shit in my basket.
It's fucking crazy. Someone's stuff in there and
there's like. Pics that you put it in or is
it? Yeah, it's just like stuff that
because I genuinely won lime has saved my ADHD because I'm like
everywhere. If I was to get the tube, I'd be
screwed. It's like, and also it's really
good for like the dopamine too, right?
Because she's like getting a bit of exercise.
And I'm like, wee all the way home, like down some big hill,
like actually, yeah. And I'm like, life is amazing.
My hair like it's so. I feel like I'm on GTA when I'm
on a line back. Yeah, exactly that.
I go up curve. I also just think I'm.
Indestructible. I literally I'm like weaving
through traffic like my girlfriend will be like
following me. It should be like, you're
actually crazy. I'm like, like sliding on the
buses, like limboing underline. You know what we're gonna do
when you die and like Lime Crash, we're gonna use this clip
and then we're gonna put I will remember you.
That is so real. No, but it's.
True. I wanna get like a full
motorbike Homer. How hard?
Good. Idea like a lime green one.
Yeah, like a lime green one. But then my my friend said the
other day like you won't be able to see behind you and I'll say
fuck and you look. What are they doing, a motor by
then? They've got wing mirrors, babe.
So I was like, OK, so I'm gonna get helmet and I'm gonna bring
portable wing mirrors. I can just walking mirrors.
You'll be right. Exactly.
I'll be bright green. Hard to miss.
When yeah, when you're going around the towns and everything
on your bike, it's very freeing. I feel sorry for any city that
doesn't have a line bike. Yeah, and also people who are
just scared to get on the, like blessed group also like that.
It's because I miss that I don't have that danger element in my
brain. I have I'm one speeding to get
away from getting my license taken away from me.
Do you want to know how many parking fines I have?
I just actually, I couldn't even tell you.
Just like so reckless with every I think I do.
Well, that's another radiation. Radiation.
You've got to get there as fast as humanly possible and I would
always find the fastest route. Oh, yeah.
But it's also just like the thrill of it that gives me that
dopamine that I'm missing in my day today.
Yeah. Like the near death experience
on the day? Yeah.
Exactly, I feel like we should really go on a line bike ride
together. Should That would be so fun, a
little picnic in the basket. And then it all goes.
Fucking goes live. No Oh my God.
Funny story. So I was like, it was, it was my
girlfriend's birthday and I was like, OK, I'm going to pick up
all these sexy like little treats from the sex shop in
Soho. 10 out of 10 would recommend.
Can't remember. Oh, which one, Harmony?
Something. No, it's like right next to the
box. OK.
It was like literally under the box.
It should be called the box. Yeah, it should be called the
box. Anyway, so I like fill my like
Lime bike, my like Lime basket full of these goodies.
And then I get home and I've left a full strap on in the
basket and I go back, it's gone. The Lime bike's gone.
So I'm cycling away with my strapon.
Like begging for a treat, I. Had to.
Go back. Oh God, it was actually which I
£45. It was a vibrating dildo and it
was left and I. Wish I picked up that line back.
That would have been the funniest thing to ever see in
the world. Things I've like 6 grand worth
of dyke rings I've left in a line bike basket.
Shit, I remember that honestly. Like honestly you in a line
bike? Yeah, it's terrible, but it
won't. I still it's not me.
Next time, wear the strap. Yeah, well, just in case.
Yeah, save you first. Save to us Would you ever wear a
harness out? You know what?
Yeah, I've been seeing some people rock it on TikTok.
No, I mean like Incognito though.
Ohh no I'm going full strap baby no.
You you'd also have the, yeah. Have the donut on it.
No yeah, I wear a scarf. I saw someone wear like like it
was like a cool suit and it looked really chic and then like
harness and I was like that is like.
Vibe that is very cool I don't think I could really like get
away with it but I feel like a bit of the under trousers yeah
yeah strap moment it's quite fun yeah like why is Freya got a
fucking raging heart? On yeah, actually it's.
Just the strap is fine. Don't worry about it guys.
Everyone ignore me my clear. It's my clear.
That's my clear. You just got to say it like I
love it when people pronounce clip like clip clip clip.
Such a good word clip. I feel like it's not use enough.
No, it's a really good word, especially like clitoris.
Such a Ross it's. Not use enough.
It's not straight relationships anyway.
No, I know. I know.
They don't even know it's this. So.
Yeah. So this is very exciting.
So you've got a girlfriend. We're not.
We're not saying her name, but you're.
I mean, it's literally so obvious, but like, we're not.
You're so in love. Not hard launched yet we're
still in the software. Are you happy?
Dragging it out, You're dragging it.
So happy, so in love. She's literally the best person
ever. Oh yeah, I've never felt so
loved. She's amazing.
Yeah, she's. Just like she's too good to be
true, to be honest. Really.
She's Oh my God that's so cute. So random as well like so my
famously my only ex is my best friend and like we were out last
night and we were scream arguing and her new girlfriend was like
how were you in a relationship for you?
Whereas me and my new girlfriend literally never.
We haven't argued at all. That's so nice.
I know. That's really nice.
I feel like like I'm like. Like that, so nice.
It's really nice. It's really nice.
It is really nice, honestly. And like I don't want to tell
you, but me and Scarlett didn't argue the first few years of our
relationship. Oh God, so it's all downhill.
No, nobody is really nice when you feel like you don't have to
keep defending yourself. I think that's more of what it
is, right? And and like feeling
disrespected, especially if you do have ADHD, you need to be
with someone who's able to regulate.
Yeah, of course. Of course.
By the way, everyone should regulate their own emotions, but
it is different. Yes, no, she's so understanding
and like she's. Got that thing?
Of like, I'll be like, so frustrated with myself.
And she's like, babe, take a beat.
Remember, your brain's not like other people.
And I'm like, you know what? I needed that validation.
Thank you. She goes.
Listen here. Listen here.
Your brain. Yeah, your brain.
I'm sorry, babe. I hate to break it too, but your
brain is not. Yeah, true.
Yeah, But it is. It is true because, like, you
can really get in your own head. And I think as well, emotional
regulation is really hard with ADHD.
That's one thing I'd say that the meds have helped me with so
much. They stopped me from flying off
the handle. Another line boat pun there.
Flying off. And this episode is sponsored
but. Yeah, I know.
Should we just, should we just send it to them, please?
Like, but I, yeah, because and then I'd I'd see myself react
and be like, wasn't even that much of a big deal.
Yeah, like calm the fuck down. No, it's that or, or just more
the frustration in myself. So if there's an argument, I'm
like Get Me Out of here but in my head.
It's interesting because she's got OCD.
OK, so we've got, we're on the spectrum, just different ends of
it. Like it's so funny as well.
Like I'm late everywhere. Yeah, like famously yes.
And she's like really early everywhere.
And she's like, you know what, I think your ADHD is helping my
OCD because I see that the world doesn't fucking fall apart if
you're 2 hours late something. And I'm like real.
But it's true, she's now late to.
Everything because I'm like dragging her like slowly.
Yeah. So you won that one then?
She didn't win that one, no. It's young and yeah.
You'll never be. No, I will never ever be early
I. Really struggle with this even.
Here. You, you were early.
I was expecting it at 4:30. I was getting ready quite
quickly, to be fair. So you did all right.
You did all right there. You need to talk to that as
such, yes. So on April 15th, it's like the
week before Lesbian Visibility week.
We're throwing a big, you know, originally it was just going to
be a big lesbian panel talk, but now it's like a sapphic
showdown. But 4 confetti cannons.
We've got I've got outfit changes.
I've got I'm not going to give away too many of the gags, but
like it's it's going to be gaggy, gaggy boots, a gaggy
boots night. We've got like a star-studded
line up. So it's going to open with Ella
Wills. Amazing.
You would have seen her on TikTok.
Yeah, she's great hilarious. She's bringing her comedy like
off off the screen and onto the stage and I'm so excited to see
her sat. And then we're going to lean
into a panel talk to talk about everything queer.
I know panel talk kind of like conscious about using that word
because it sounds like very like, you know what I mean, like
kind of boring and like just. Yeah, I know what you whenever
you say panel. I know you.
Where's the excitement that I know it's?
Going to be good because of the people that are.
Yeah, exactly. And it's going to be very light
hearted. Very.
The whole point is to just be. I want everyone in that room to
just be like, Oh my God, thank fuck I'm a dyke.
Do you know what I mean? Just want that.
And just like we've got, Charlie Martin is going to host it Icon.
Love her. Love her, she's going to be
amazing. And then we've got Cat burns.
Love again? Yeah, God, everyone's great.
It's great. We've got Shiv Dave, who's a
dyke activist. They run the Dyke March.
They're great and I'm into them at like a deliver event like
last year. They're so cool and.
They're just doing so much of the, like, groundwork for
lesbian rights and just queer rights and general trans rights.
Amazing. And it's amazing.
I'm so, so glad to have them on the panel.
We've got Victoria Scone. I love.
AFAB drag queen, Yeah. Incredible.
Amazing. And we've got Georgia Woods,
George Woodwaves to round it all off, to top it all off.
And it's just like. Amazing.
A collection and diverse collection of like, different
industries. Do you know what I mean?
You've got Cat in the music industry.
You've got shipping the activism space.
You've got Victoria Scone in the drag space, Georgia in the like,
comedy space. Yeah, exactly.
And it's just going to be, it's just going to be so fun.
And then it's going to be like prizes galore.
We're going to do a big raffle and just raise all this money's
going to like all the ticket sales and raffle is going to
queer Britain. So the whole point is like
amplifying queer voices and specifically lesbian voices
because we are we are bit on the backbone.
And when it comes to that, we're catching up my.
Baby high 5. This is great.
I love how we both miss. I know.
Yeah, no, definitely like I'm I'm very excited for this.
I think it's an amazing cause. Like what you're doing is so
sick. And it's just like, it's just so
it's like my job, like it's doing it with my jewelry round.
Like that's we're putting it on and we're, you know, we're able
to do it because next cosmetics are sponsoring us.
It's. Amazing.
Which is great. I know it's like me, like
writing a sponsorship contract. Your makeup does look great, by
the way, isn't it? We're gonna say yes.
Yeah, it is. It's 100% next.
And yeah, it's just like, it's like amplifying queer voices.
And then it's going, all the money's going to a charity which
preserves them in the history books.
Yeah. So it's just.
Because we need them. Because in other countries
they're getting fucking burnt. I America, yeah, Which is
insane. It's so scary.
Yeah. So that's basically what we're
up to. Yeah.
Well, what I'll do as well, I'll obviously put a link if there is
still tickets. I mean, we're.
Final release now so. Yeah, well, I'll still put them
in there. Yeah.
It's still like an amazing thing to put the word out there of
everything that we're doing. It's.
Just like it's just like something to give back to, you
know what I mean? Like it's just really nice to be
able to do it like the dyke ring.
So had such a positive impact. In fact, I was reading this
comment or DM the other day where someone was just like, I'm
not out by wearing. I wear the dyke ring is like a
little secret to myself. And I was just like, Oh my God.
And it's just it's not much for secret.
I know if someone sees it but like.
Maybe she's put it as a clip ring.
Yeah. SLT launches that new line of
clip ring. She comes home from her
corporate job. Yeah, she, like, flings her
blazer off. She goes into her bedroom and
there's just a dyke ring on the nicest, like, silver platter and
puts it on. And she's like, I'm home.
Yeah, exactly that. No it.
Is it? Is that thing?
It's that homage to being a big fat fucking dyke and owning it.
I think you. Yeah, you've killed it.
And I'm so glad that you've done all of this, like, off the back
of it. You've managed.
And there's so much. I mean, we're gonna have to do
this again in another year. Yeah.
It's. Gonna be like the Billie Eilish.
Like what? Else, yeah, every year and be
like, I'm depressed. Yeah.
Yeah, well, I've got some questions from the lesbians.
Yeah, bring them on me, unless you Can't Sing for shit.
Go on, keep going. What about a bit of Britney
Spears? What?
Every time I try. Is that Britney?
Yeah, to fly. You don't not keep going.
Keep going. I fall without my wings.
Oh my God. What about my Gen.
Z is showing? Isn't she lucky?
I don't even say, isn't she lovely?
That one? What the fuck?
I only know these songs. You know anybody's.
Girlfriend's a singer and I literally like just go I will.
Remember. What about Chapel?
Oh yeah, go on, girl. Take when I say Jagger's like
Maddy Mcconney. Maddy Mcconney singing Chapel
around dagging like a tiger. You ain't gotta tell me it's
just in my. Nature, take it like the rings.
Baby, I'm a giver. Someone just said my ex cheated.
My ex cheated on me with a boy and then slept with a boy the
day after we split for a vape. Me though me fuck me like
breaking my only like lesbianism for a bit for a puff.
For one. For one.
Lost Mary Yeah. Real.
Which one, though? Which one would it have to be
for it to be worth it? Cherry.
Eyes. Such a naughty girl.
Have you seen that? No, but now, OK, well through
you, if you could go back in time, would you try it out with
Fiorenza and the Maseria? No, I feel like we gave it a go.
We gave it a go. Now we've got just such a great
friendship that I wouldn't want. To love that.
Ever been with a mask? No.
And that's like part of the thing with me and Fee was that I
didn't want to use her as an experiment into my maskness.
Do you know what I? Mean exactly.
You don't want to feel like you were doing that on TV as well.
Almost like using her. How was it being on a lesbian
reality show? Did it feel empowering
judgments? It felt the like most
empowering, to be honest. Like everyone who all the
producers out there, like we all were like, Oh my God, we're
making history right now. Yeah, which was great.
And then like we got a bunch of hate comments when like the BBC
Three posted, it was like, I was like, can't be my taxpayer,
money's going to this. And I was like, yeah, we're
doing something right. Are you a real redhead?
Is that real, babe? So the curtains match the
drapes? No it's not guys.
I'm blonde. How do?
You feel about dyeing your pubes though.
I actually like Word. Mine are quite like, and I'm
like thinking of getting a little eyebrow tint on there.
Give it a bit more Bush. I'm so pro Bush.
Pro Bush. Yeah, little landing stroke.
OK, but make it red. Yeah, I will get.
The tint I'll get my hairdresser.
Hairdresser. Dan, can you tint my Burge?
How did you come out to everyone and what age did you know gay?
Oh. My God, I knew I was gay,
literally fresh out womb fresh out the womb, but like didn't
really admit myself to probably like 14.
But it's like fave the closet with class.
I'm just like look at it, watch. I literally I'm like watching
like compilations of like Britney and Santana, like solely
honestly and like watching like the 100 through and through just
to watch like 1 like lesbian kiss.
But I needed the law. I needed the context.
Yeah, you needed like the whole story behind it we all loved.
That I know I was saying less than delirious.
I was saying that like low key like watching like lesbian porn
but it's like Nat like just for like WLW storylines.
Well, like our lesbian porn is yearning.
Yeah, yearning Main character for a straight woman.
That's our lesbian porn. Love it.
OK, biggest eggs and biggest turn ONS.
Oh God, that's a tough one. Biggest eggs.
I feel like my eggs are just like, confident, like like
overly confident, overly confident.
So like egotistical? Yeah, like egotistical, but then
also like I don't know, biggest turn ONS are like.
Like big big tits. Big titties in my face, no.
I've seen your tits they're wonderful.
Thanks. Yeah.
That was one that I don't know. Yeah, that we've had, yeah.
That's 'cause I've seen your boobs.
That's fantastic. Thanks.
Babe oh natural and which is insane.
They're like porn star tits. Oh.
That's what my girlfriend says, really.
Oh, me and her can. I don't even have something to
talk about. The boys at the boys at my
school used to call me porn star tits blowjob lips 'cause I got
the biggest mouth ever I know and I'm.
Gonna blow up dull. Literally a.
Little lesbian if you would. Just why don't you go to the
next Halloween party as a blast? Yeah, it's just you going.
Yeah, literally. Yeah, whole out.
Sorry. Biggest X biggest turn ONS.
Biggest turn ONS are just like being cool Yeah.
Also, actually, this is such a turn off.
If you're talented, pussy talented like I, that is just
like such a thing for me. Like talent I find so hard.
Like I used to like I'll be like watching like Broadway we were
in England. I'd be like watching the theatre
and I'm like, Oh my God, they're so hot because they're just
like, so. Talented.
Yeah. Have you ever not really been
that attracted to someone and then you see them do something
and you're like, exactly? Oh, it's exactly.
That exactly I'm. Like Oh my God, be still my
beating pussy like. Oh my God, it's so real.
Yeah. Should be pulsated.
And then X is just like hygiene, do you know what I mean?
But I don't know if that's an egg.
People say it's not an egg. What a lack of hygiene.
That's a major ick. Yeah.
But it's like, that's just like basic.
Is that just basic? Yeah, I suppose.
Like what bars are you lingering around for people to be coming
up that just have no, no basic hygiene?
Yeah, I think no, I feel you. I feel you.
Feel like I never have an extra answer.
Let me have a look. I'm hard to be icked out.
No that's a lie. I feel like I'm like.
I think that. You can only get really.
Icked out by someone if you're just not into them.
Yeah, real and. Anything they do, they breathe.
And you're like, yeah, So cockiness is rank, Yeah.
But like, love, confidence, there's such a fine line.
Yeah. But there is, I think, yeah,
like, confidence is so hot. Confidence is so hot.
But then being like overly confident to the point where do
you know what I hate as well, though, is like seeing really,
really, really false confidence where you can see it.
They're deadly insecure. Yeah.
If you like, see through. I know that we're all faking it
till we make it. I understand.
No, but it's not like you, I feel in the sense of like, I
don't know how to explain it when they're overly confident,
but insecure. So not just normal confident,
overly confident insecure. It's hard.
It's a hard hard one. Oh my God, how do you stay
confident all the time? Tell us your secrets.
Literally fake. It's where you made that.
No, I know honestly like. Half the time I think it's like
thing of social media is fake like like you.
Guys, social media is fake? I asked.
This is fake. We're not even in the same room.
We're not real. We're bots.
She's a she's a sex doll. I'm a bot.
We're not there. I'm Tachi PT generated.
Yeah, no, but I like I think it's one faker teammaker dress
for the role that you like, the role that you want, but like in
terms of like personality and face.
Do you know? I mean, yes, so it's very much
that and then also like going back to dressing like look good,
feel good is such a thing. If I if I'm wearing a Kunti
outfit and got my makeup, slay my.
Babe, I act like a different. Person I'm literally like
untouchable but I Oh my God, I am so not confident I like.
I know. Like in some things I'm just
like literally like shy AF and like quiet and like this but
like. You're an introverted extrovert.
Yeah, I'm well, yeah, but I am just also so fucking loud and
extroverted. But it's just like AI don't
really know it's. It's funny.
I'm the same, Yeah. So don't worry about it.
I couldn't tell you the answer as to why, but you know, what's
it like dating in the public eye?
Crazy boots. Because everyone has an opinion.
Like, say, with like the Hannah and Fiorenza sitch, there was so
much discourse, but also like, it's only natural.
I mean, I'm the one I have opinions.
Yeah, the biggest. Yeah, So like that.
You can't like let them say what they want to say because it
doesn't actually make a difference.
Yeah, no information how to come across more gay as a femme.
I think you can answer this one very nicely.
Shaggy mullet like I've done. Here, get a shaggy mullet and
get a dyke ring. It's the dyke ring.
Yeah, Dyke ring. I should have.
My mind is no flat and I'm really annoyed that I don't have
it on me right now. I feel very naked too.
So but yeah, I'd say get get yourself die crying because then
it's like undeniable, but then also.
Yeah, you can be so fem and then wear a die crying you done.
Yeah, I think it's like just bringing femininity into.
You don't have to come across as more gay.
Yeah, you are fem. You're a woman, you're fem.
You enjoy being fem. That's your identity.
That's who you are. It doesn't stop you from being
gay. Just continue to be gay as hell.
I think it's more so how you flirt with women, right?
So if you're more concerned because you feel like women
won't know that you're gay, maybe just start flirting with.
Women, but yeah, yeah, I think I really struggled like being so
fam. I feel like I'm way less fam now
but. Yeah.
I struggle being so fam and then like not being.
Maybe I just wasn't like getting home because, like, people
didn't want me. How is life changed for Diva?
Am I deeper? I have to say deeper.
Who's diva? Diva be you.
Diva be me. Life has changed Cray.
Like like insanely. I couldn't even put into words
how much life's changed. But I am so grateful when I'm
that. I was saying earlier like I
really struggle with the workload and the doing, but like
there's nothing else I'd rather be doing and it's so fulfilling.
Don't we love complaining? That I know I love to complain
on my I love it. It's actually, Oh my God, yeah,
yeah, I'm so good at it. So at.
Least you still get to complain whilst doing everything that you
really like. But I wouldn't swap it for the
world love. And you're very happy I'm.
Very happy, very happy like. Me but yeah no, I'm happy for
you I'm still obsessed with are you a real redhead like like as
if that as if that's natural as. If this is natural.
As a natural baby. Oh God some of them are a bit
depressing. Hold on.
Just bring the mood down. How do I compete as a femme for
femme baby gay when the girls I like prefer maths?
Oh my God, I can write a thesis on this.
I have such a complex when it comes to like masked women
because I would always find I was losing out to a masked
woman. And then it's like obviously
like nothing to do with me or them.
No, but like it's just such I think.
And I literally like, I would just be like, Oh my God, again,
again. And it'll keep happening.
And then the rejection sensitivity.
Sensitivity of it or like just and I just I don't even have an
answer to the question. I just.
I just feel you say every time you see a mask lesbian now, no.
I'm like back off. No, like like like covering my
girlfriend's eyes, but it's just like, it's just a thing of like,
I don't know. I honestly have no idea how to
answer that question, but I feel you babes.
I feel, I feel like what I would say to that is, is that like it
wasn't even like there was a competition because like if that
is so their type mask to femme is like such a huge jump.
So I feel like it's not even a competition.
So fuck. Annoying that they've gone for
the mask but at the same time it's not like they went for
another femme that's worse. I think it's but I think it's a
thing of as well is that I just don't.
I just like I'm variously femme. For them so.
Like I'm just like, what Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, you're like, why? Why do you want that?
Yeah, no, not why not me. I just like, I just like, I
don't have, I just like I'm so more attracted to fems that I'm
just like, yeah, I just like, it's like not how my brain
brain. I'm so attracted to fems.
Yeah, yeah. So I would always no hate masks.
No, I love masks. We love my God.
But like, I just not attracted to masks.
Yeah, just not sexually attracted to masks, although.
However, I am like, yeah, yeah, energy.
If the energy's right, the energy's very feminine, maybe.
Yeah, it's, I think it is actually an energy as.
Opposed to? Yeah, 100%.
Well, that's all that the lesbians had to ask of you.
Have you got anything else that you'd like to say as your
lasting words before you get on the line bike?
I know it should go and zoom off.
I've had one, Tony. I'm going to be over the
underwater. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Straight. Gay.
I think staying gay is really good.
Yeah, stay gay like. Keep.
Fight The demons. Yeah.
The straight demons, yeah. Fight.
Honestly. Fight them all.
Yeah. Real.
They're trying to make you sin. Don't go there.
Love you everyone. I love lesbians and if you're
listening to and and bisexuals and quiz and everything in
between, pansexuals, demisexuals, them all love you
all. Even the demis and the demis and
the asexuals. And the asexuals.
Everyone but the straights. Yeah, and if you're listening to
this and if you're why I. Hope I broke your headphones.
Yeah, we should just put a warning in like a lesbian.
Yeah. You know where there's like a
frequency that. Yeah, there you go.
By the way, turn your headphones on.
Just now. But yeah, I love you.
Come to my panel. Talk to raise money for charity.
Yeah, and thank you so much. Thank you for coming on.
It's always an absolute pleasure to see you coming for our catch
up next year. I know I can't wait to see you
in another year. I know.
Well, hold on until then. Short, my hair is going to be a
moloty. There, it's going to be super.
I'm going to be my mask era mask.
Tease. You don't like the mask because
you're going to turn into one. Yeah, you saw your.
Competition, my threat. So I'm going to be like hello.
Be the threat, right guys? We love you.
Love bye.