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Hello lesbians, it's Freya today
on the mic. 

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I have no idea what has happened
to the weather in the UK but it 

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sent me absolutely insane. 
I was already halfway there. 

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But I will have to say, if I'm 
speaking to those of you that 

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suffer with seasonal, what is 
it? 

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It's like seasonal ass up your 
fucking hair depression. 

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I don't know what it is. 
It's sad right? 

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So it's called like sad. 
And if you struggle with this, I

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am just telling you, you are not
alone. 

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But I have some tips. 
This morning a friend of mine 

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reached out and she was like 
let's go for a walk and I just 

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woken up and the clocks have 
changed. 

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I was like Oh my God I'm just 
like I'm falling apart. 

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But the sun was shining and she 
was like let's go for a walk. 

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Like straight away walked for 
like 4 hours just chatting 

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absolute shit. 
That is one thing I would say 

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helps like actually if you're 
out in it, it is so much better.

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Like the other day it was 
raining and instead of being 

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inside of my house I was like no
I need to actually be out in it.

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So I'm sad outside of this like 
Cafe with like the canopy over 

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me and the rain is like getting 
on my laptop. 

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At this point I didn't even give
a fuck. 

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I was just like, I'm just going 
to actually have to be out in it

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because it's so much better than
if you are just like sad at home

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and ruminating. 
And I don't know what it is that

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makes like there are certain 
people this just doesn't affect.

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And so many people are like, I 
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It's like, I can understand why 
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Like I like the clothes, that's 
about it. 

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Like I like autumn clothes. 
I like winter clothes but like 

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winter and autumn, hell on earth
Get Me Out of here. 

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Why the fuck do I live here? 
Honestly, because the UK is just

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not it when it comes to this 
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It just it's just I find it so 
depressing, but I want to know 

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what it is. 
It's like some people have it, 

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some people don't. 
Like why is it that I struggle 

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so badly with bad weather? 
Like I was talking about this 

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the other day as well. 
Sometimes I get this like real 

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bad, like gloom and doom feeling
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atmosphere, you know, the vibes 
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And sometimes I just like have 
days where like the whole vibe 

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of the day will just feel weird.
And I say things look different.

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And by the way, I'm not 
schizophrenic. 

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Like, things don't like, 
actually look different, but 

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they feel like they look 
different in a way. 

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And I think a big part of that 
is if the weather is bad, I will

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like, have this doom and gloom 
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And I'm like, everything sucks. 
But yeah, I'm trying to figure 

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out. 
I mean, I take my vitamin D 

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supplements. 
I mean, there's got to be 

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something. 
There's got to be something. 

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Apparently someone is developing
like a VR headset or something. 

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I mean, too fair. 
You could just put on a VR 

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headset. 
I can just pretend that I'm in 

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Hawaii or something. 
I don't know. 

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But it's like, I think it's just
that lack of sunlight behind the

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eyes is quite damaging to my 
soul, to my core. 

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And this has been a fucking hard
year, guys. 

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This has been a really hard year
and no surprise to anyone. 

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And don't get me wrong, there 
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really, really good things and 
some amazing people that have 

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also come into my life and have 
made me so grateful for making 

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those connections. 
But some most of this year are 

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shit Creek, fucking shit Creek. 
But like I said on my negative 

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lesbian chat, like I need to 
stop, like dwelling into that. 

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Sometimes it's really difficult 
because even though you try and 

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keep a positive mindset and then
another bad thing happens and 

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you're like, are we joking? 
Like, are we actually joking? 

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Like, why is this happening? 
And I like I it just it just 

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sends me completely over the 
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But I'm trying to still be like,
you know, keep up that 

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manifesting baby and everything 
is good, everything is fine and 

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I will be fine. 
I think I have just one of those

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brains that like sinks into it 
way too easy. 

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And I need to learn how to just 
like, completely restructure the

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old mind and find a way to just 
process things better. 

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You know, I've got like a few 
good friends where things can 

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happen to them and it just kind 
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They're like, I know I'll sort 
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And I am like that to like a 
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things. 
I'm like, I know it's all going 

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to be OK. 
I know there's nothing I can't 

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figure out. 
There's nothing I can't sort 

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out. 
But sometimes you're like, wow, 

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I am gonna literally gonna run 
around naked any minute now, be 

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institutionalized, shave all my 
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It's gonna pending pending. 
I don't know if that's, I don't 

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want to blame everything on 
ADHD. 

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I think it's really easy, 
though, to ruminate when you've 

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got ADHD because once you get 
like this one thing in your 

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mind, you're like, oh, I'm just 
gonna think about that thing now

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forever. 
I'm just gonna let it run laps 

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around my brain and like take 
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So yes, need to sort that out. 
And I'm just, I've become such 

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an emotional girl, like so 
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And I don't know if it's like as
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think you can go either way. 
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older, I've just become a lot 
more in tune to my emotions and 

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just trying to figure out what 
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well, like so many times we feel
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it that I actually feel that 
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Is that really anger or is that 
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Is that sadness? 
And, you know, am I angry at 

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others? 
Am I angry at myself? 

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And like trying to figure all of
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I know, sorry, fucking 
depressing. 

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Freya, shut up. 
I get it. 

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You're already sat there in the 
shit weather and then you've got

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to hear me complain. 
But I just want to let you know 

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you're not alone. 
I also, I also struggle with 

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that as well, but talk about the
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There's also good shit too. 
So we've just sold out New York,

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which is insane. 
I am blown away. 

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And, and I know that for me and 
Scarlett, we see our numbers 

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over in the States and 
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We know that we have like a 
presence there, but then to 

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actually see it so like 
tangibly, we're like, what the 

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fuck is going on? 
So I was then I looked over at 

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Scott. 
I was like, well, we gotta do 

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LA. 
We gotta do LA whilst we're in 

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New York. 
Like it's, I know it's like 

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quite far from New York, but 
it's closer than if we were to 

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go from here. 
And I'm thinking, hmm, how about

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we make that happen? 
I'm sorry, fucking notification 

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going off. 
How about we actually make that 

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happen, See what we can do. 
I think for us, it's kind of 

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like a dream come true because 
we're not all about the events 

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like Lesbian Supper club. 
We're all about the podcast. 

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And I know that we've been 
promising a lot recently, but I 

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need you to know that we are in 
some really, really cool 

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conversations right now, 
especially over like visual and 

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audio and everything is just 
going to be a lot more 

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amplified. 
But that is our love. 

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But the events as well, like and
being able to host that and like

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create communities or like not 
even create communities, but 

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give you guys a space where you 
can meet other people within the

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community and have that fun. 
We're like, absolutely, yes, I 

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love, love doing it and love 
meeting everyone. 

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And by the way, when you guys 
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sorry to like interrupt you, I 
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please don't be fucking sorry 
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Like it is honestly so nice to 
hear and you would be surprised.

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It's like, it's so easy to just 
be like, well, I don't know what

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I'm doing, blah, blah, blah, 
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And fun fact is, and no one 
knows what they're doing, by the

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way, but I think that to hear 
that is so nice. 

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And to actually meet you and to 
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really, really appreciate it. 
Like it does not go unnoticed. 

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I had a great night the other 
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Why night? 
I don't know what had gotten 

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into me. 
I was running around, I was 

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hugging everyone. 
I was saying how beautiful. 

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I don't know what happened, but 
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So that's like part of the good 
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We're also having some really 
cool conversations just around 

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like the community piece as 
well, which we can't wait to 

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share everything that we have 
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I think just the lesbians need 
to just take control now. 

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Trump is just only getting 
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We're like, that was the thing 
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Like some people like why 
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I'm like, this is exactly the 
time to hit America with Trump 

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there. 
This is the time when we do need

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to be louder. 
We need to be prouder with who 

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we are and like really, really 
stick together because they will

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just try and divide us. 
It's so much easier to control 

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us if they divide us. 
And if there's one thing that I 

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can say about this community is 
we're fucking funny. 

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And I think that so much like 
humor holds so much power. 

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And if we're able to be like, 
fuck you, you fucking BLOB, 

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don't even not even a BLOB. 
Just like you fucking ugly 

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orange face prick. 
You are just a cunt. 

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There was just no other words 
for it. 

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And it's just compulsive lion, 
narcissist, psychopath, whatever

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the fuck. 
And and it's it's just like 

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breeding this like crazy ground 
of men who all think that 

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they're victims, which is the 
funniest fucking thing ever. 

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So yeah, a Long story short, the
lesbians need to come in full 

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force because the lesbians are 
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Let's be real. 
Like we have to. 

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And we need to use that power 
and like stick together. 

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And I also just think it's like,
it's about fucking time someone 

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cause an absolute scene, Don't 
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Don't we think it's like it is 
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I think we all just need to just
revolution this. 

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And by the way, before I get 
called out, they're calling 

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everyone terrorists for what? 
For like for being left wing. 

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Apparently now you're like 
basically a terrorist, which is 

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just absolute insanity, 
especially seeing the actual 

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acts of terrorism that they do 
create in other countries. 

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And not to mention what's going 
on with ICE as well, which is 

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the most heinous thing I've 
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seen because I've seen some 
horrendous things these past few

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years come out of America. 
But that is it's authoritarian. 

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It's like he has created this 
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The guy needs to be out of 
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The fact that he's committed so 
many crimes and he's just still 

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in there. 
I have no idea. 

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Prince Andrew, what has he done?
He's he's just removed his 

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title. 
So that's really interesting 

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because then I'm thinking 
something else is coming out. 

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Then surely like they don't want
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I don't know what it is. 
But honestly, I think The thing 

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is, and we've said it before, 
but sometimes it just has to get

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so bad that it gets better. 
But I never thought that I would

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ever witness something like 
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And you just realize now that 
like history that's repeating 

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itself because before you're 
like, well, how how would Hitler

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have ever gotten in charge? 
You know, you'd always think 

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that I remember being in history
lessons be like, how did he 

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actually manage this though? 
And we're quite literally seeing

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like this behavior just happen 
in real time. 

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Just so easy for them to 
indoctrinate and to really 

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poison the minds of people. 
The problem about the algorithm 

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as well, without being online, 
it's great that we have access 

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to so much information, but the 
way that the algorithm is now 

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designed, especially off of the 
back of things like TikTok, 

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Instagram now as well. 
You will only be fed things that

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you're already interested in or 
you've already taken a liking to

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like one right wing post. 
And then from then on all you're

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gonna see is that right? 
And so it's really, really it's 

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stopping people from having an 
actual clearview of what's going

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on in the world. 
And that is how it all starts. 

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It's just fucked up. 
Talk about fucked up. 

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I wanted to talk today about 
coming out and I'm not on about 

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coming out stories. 
You guys have already heard what

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I went through with my coming 
out and then also heard the 

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episode with my mom as well 
where I'm like talking to her 

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about the horrendous coming out 
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But I really wanted to talk 
about the nature of coming out 

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because I think now by this 
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change the process of this? 
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coming out. 
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it, I'm like, that is actually 
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And obviously I think that it's 
great to, I'm not saying don't 

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come out as in like don't say 
that you're gay to people are 

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like whatever. 
Like, I'm not saying that, but I

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mean the sitting down, the 
telling people, the fear, the, 

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the whole act of it in itself is
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look at it for most people, even
if you've had a good experience 

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with coming out, doing the ACT 
itself is quite shameful. 

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There's like a lot of shame 
around it and it's scary. 

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And I was trying to figure out 
what it is exactly. 

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It's so bad about it. 
And it basically it kind of 

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feeds into the narrative that we
are responsible for others to 

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accept us or not. 
We are putting our feelings, our

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identity, who we are in the 
hands of others and usually 

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people that we love, right? 
So people that we really value 

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the opinions of and we are 
expressing it, we're explaining 

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it, we're apologizing for it. 
And that is traumatic to just 

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have to explain and to try and 
bother with people and really 

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like put yourself out there in 
that way impacts this like great

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fear within someone. 
I mean, I remember like looking 

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up about the other day and it 
was interesting because it said 

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that it implies deceit. 
So it's like the language of 

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like being in the closet can 
make people feel deceitful, 

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right? 
Because they are hiding this 

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identity. 
Like you're, you're faking 

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something, you're hiding 
something, you're lying, you're 

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lying about many things. 
And these lies can spiral as 

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well, right? 
All of a sudden, this simple lie

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of your identity then becomes 
this other lie of maybe like 

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relationships and everything 
else that you are keeping 

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completely hidden from other 
people or like crushes or 

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feelings and like the kind of 
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people would just so organically
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You can't. 
Or maybe you say you've got a 

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boyfriend when you're a lesbian 
and you're trying to figure it 

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out or you're lying to yourself.
So you genuinely do have a 

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boyfriend, but you are you keep 
lying to your body. 

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Do you know what that does to 
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Your body and your mind is so 
crazy connected. 

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It is your second brain in your 
body, in your stomach is where 

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your second brain is. 
And the physical aspects of that

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can actually cause like quite 
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Usually people will suffer from 
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issues or like whatever it might
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of goes into like somatic pain, 
which like I definitely get. 

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So it's when your emotions are 
so heavy in your brain, your 

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brain will create physical pain 
within your body for you to 

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focus on because it's a tangible
thing that you can be like, OK, 

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there is this. 
Maybe it could even be as simple

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as like having a pain that's 
like down your thigh or like a 

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headache or yeah, your back 
feels all like tight now in your

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neck. 
And whatever it might be, that 

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can be both things because 
you're like tense anyway because

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you're stressed out. 
But it's like it all comes 

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through physically. 
But your body does start to like

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not trust you because once you 
keep going against what is right

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for you, your body will tell you
and it will come out in anxiety 

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as well and just generalize 
depression because you are just 

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not living authentically. 
You can't hack it. 

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And you, you might be in the 
closet now and it is really 

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heavy. 
And you might have this thing in

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your head where you're like, I'm
never going to come out. 

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I'm not going to do this. 
And trust me, some of you, I 

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know are in dangerous situations
as well where you genuinely 

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can't come out. 
And that to me is just 

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horrifying. 
And I'm so, so sorry because I 

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feel even though I didn't have a
good experience coming out, I 

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was still privileged with that. 
I still had the ability to come 

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out, you know, And having that 
stripped away from you is such 

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like a harrowing feeling as 
well. 

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Another thing, you're like, 
you're putting the power in 

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other people's hands to reject 
you, right? 

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The term of like coming out, you
are just you're giving it like 

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here it is. 
You're already apologetic. 

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Here's everything about this. 
I'm gay, I am attracted to the 

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same sex or I'm bisexual, I'm 
pansexual, I'm trans, whatever 

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it might be. 
And you are now just giving 

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someone the fucking floor. 
You're giving the jury like you,

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they are now in this position 
where they can say, well that's 

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fucked up, I hate that, or fuck 
you or I'm never speaking to you

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again or any of these things. 
You are just handing that power 

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to someone and that power should
come with us. 

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That should be with the person 
who is coming out, right? 

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That should be our power. 
That power should not be taken 

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away because at the end of the 
day, we do not live for anybody 

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else. 
It's entirely our lives and it 

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is not hurting a single soul on 
earth to be gay, to be trans, to

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be bisexual, to be pansexual, to
be asexual. 

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I'm trying to think of all the 
sexuals like we are not like we 

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are not hurting anyone 
throughout that so how dare as 

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well the people that are on the 
receiving end react so fucking 

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negatively to it when it really 
has nothing to do with them. 

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It's like you could make it as 
simple as being like my favorite

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colour is pink and you want to 
tell someone and and that only 

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effects you. 
You buy pink everything for 

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yourself because you fucking 
love it right? 

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This person hates the colour 
pink. 

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You go, I love the colour pink. 
They look at you and go, you're 

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sick and the fucking heck out of
my house. 

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Like something that has 00 
impact and effect on their life,

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you know, and but I think this 
is where I kind of like want to 

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get down to. 
I'm like, OK, how is it that as 

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a society, people can make this 
not a big fucking deal and also 

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not make it a quote UN quote 
coming out? 

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There's almost like with 
children when they're growing 

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up. 
You should never assume, for 

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instance, that your kid is going
to be straight and you should 

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never assume that it's going to 
be gay for the exact same 

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reason. 
And don't you dare for a fucking

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second any of you go where you 
can't textualize your child. 

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I'm not sexualizing a child by 
saying that it could potentially

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be gay. 
It is the same as it could 

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potentially be straight. 
You're not going to make someone

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gay by just not having like that
thought in your head that they 

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are straight and putting that on
that like it's, it's such a 

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natural thing. 
Like they'll have a little boy 

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and then they're like, Oh, 
you've got a girlfriend like 

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when they're like 5 years old. 
So before you fuckers, these 

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people that say that gay people 
are like sexualizing them 

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because they said they could be 
gay, but you're the one that's 

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like buying fucking baby grows 
for your newborn. 

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That's like little what is it? 
It's like, Oh, what's the word? 

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Not like, I think it's like 
little heartbreaker and little 

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things like this. 
And it's like, well, that's kind

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of fucked up. 
Why is that on a baby grow? 

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It just, oh, it is fees, this 
thing, like imagine a world 

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where you're growing up and they
could be like, oh, yes. 

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Then like you're either 
interested in men or interested 

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in women. 
They're like, OK, done. 

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Like really not that big of a 
deal, you know, or you're 

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interested in both or you don't 
want anyone, whatever the fuck. 

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And again, like the way that we 
can change. 

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This is like change is always 
just formed out of habits and 

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like tiny little habits that all
build up over time, right? 

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And we were having a 
conversation the other day and a

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woman was saying something about
like her child and blah, blah, 

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blah. 
And then somebody said, Oh yeah,

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she's quite progressive because 
she would be fine if her child 

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was gay. 
She wouldn't see an issue with 

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it. 
And she was called progressive 

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for this. 
And people say it. 

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And by the way, like gay people 
will say like, well, I I would 

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probably say something like that
be like, yeah, she's quite 

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progressive. 
Like that's really good. 

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Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. 
When do we actually say that's 

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not progressive? 
That's just normal. 

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And this is where like micro 
language builds into the bigger 

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picture. 
It's like if we think that that 

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is progressive, then we are 
almost allowing people to stay 

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in the normal, quite and quite 
normal category for being 

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homophobic, for being not OK if 
their kid came out as gay or 

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trans or whatever it is. 
We are putting them as normal. 

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And the people who actually are 
saying, yeah, I don't give a 

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fuck are progressive. 
No, it needs to be. 

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It is normal to be like, you 
wouldn't give a fuck because why

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would you? 
And we need to say it is just 

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unacceptable that you would be 
another way, because the reason 

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why these people are this way is
because of language like that 

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over time, people aren't born 
with hatred. 

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People are not born looking at 
same sex couples like as a kid, 

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like they wouldn't even blink an
eye. 

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But these things are like built 
into people. 

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These prejudice are built into 
people. 

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This is not me by the way, 
saying that they are horrible 

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fucking people. 
Unless you go ahead and you are 

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like a homophobic cunt, then 
yeah, you are a horrible person 

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because you've just got no 
reason to do that. 

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But having that fear that their 
kid is gay, I don't think makes 

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them horrible. 
I think that it makes them a 

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subject of everything that 
they've been exposed to their 

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entire life because the language
has always been around this is 

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wrong. 
Or, you know, and they're like, 

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maybe I'm not woke. 
Maybe I'm not OK if my kids go. 

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And again, like calling it woke.
And it's like, would you rather 

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be awake or would you rather be 
a fucking sleep bitch? 

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Like you need to think about 
what even the term woke means. 

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It's like being awake to these 
issues and being. 

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Pathetic and having that, you 
know, and I will never hear it a

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day of my fucking life when 
somebody says, oh, but then I I 

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worry that I love my kids so 
much and I don't care that 

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they're going to be gay, but I 
just worry that they're going to

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have such a harder life and it's
going to be so terrible for 

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them. 
These are the people that end up

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making their kids lives hell for
coming out like that is it's 

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fucking ironic. 
Like it's ironic. 

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You are literally just you are 
the problem. 

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You are giving them that fear. 
You're putting that onto them. 

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That's not to say that it isn't 
harder to walk through life gay.

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Of course it is. 
Of course it is. 

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But if you really feel like that
as a parent, then you don't make

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it fucking even harder for them.
You support them even more 

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because you're aware that this 
is difficult. 

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Like it's difficult to navigate 
and it's not difficult to 

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navigate because being gay is 
wrong. 

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It's difficult to navigate 
because the representation 

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hasn't been there. 
You don't have anything to cross

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reference it with. 
It's not talked about as being 

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inherently normal, right? 
But you're going to have this 

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like fear already built into 
you. 

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And then you've got your parents
being like, but I just care 

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about you and like, Are you 
sure? 

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Are you sure you're gay? 
And no, I don't want this for 

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you. 
No, this is so wrong. 

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Why would I want you to have a 
harder life? 

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Like this is not OK blah, blah, 
blah, blah, blah. 

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And they're trying to pretend 
that it comes from care. 

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But like, I think it really deep
down comes from a feeling of 

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like disgust in a way. 
Like they they kind of feel 

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disgusted by it because that is 
what they've been taught. 

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I know when I was a kid, I said 
it was disgusting. 

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I was like probably 10 years old
and again, knowing that I'm 

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fucking gay, right? 
So that was a whole different 

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Cutler fish because like 
internalized homophobia is just 

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like a completely different ball
game. 

448
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,560
But like, I thought that was 
what I would express. 

449
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,080
Like I said, oh, I like gay men,
but I can't. 

450
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,040
I don't like lesbians. 
I don't like them. 

451
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,520
Like, no, that's not for me. 
I don't like it. 

452
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600
It's something about it just 
like didn't sit right with me. 

453
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,120
And I think it's for a number of
reasons. 

454
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,760
Had I seen more lesbians? 
I even remember the feeling 

455
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,240
itself of like saying that and 
thinking in my head at that time

456
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,200
what a lesbian was. 
And it was very, very little 

457
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,920
information that I had to go off
of. 

458
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,440
I was being an absolute cunt, 
but had very little information 

459
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,720
to go off of. 
It felt very like exclude, like 

460
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,520
those lesbians that they're like
exclude different society kind 

461
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,400
of vibe and which is obviously 
completely false. 

462
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,160
But had there been more 
representation of just like 

463
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,160
normalizing it, like movies and 
TV shows and celebrities that 

464
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,520
have partners, you know, that 
are the same sex or trans or 

465
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,880
whatever it might be, then I 
would have never, I don't think 

466
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,440
that thought would have ever 
have come into my head and been 

467
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680
like, well, that's that. 
I remember being fine with my 

468
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,320
sister. 
Like when I found out about my 

469
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,400
sister, I was 12 at that point, 
I was fine with her being gay. 

470
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,960
I mean, I quite literally was 
like, is so and so your 

471
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,360
girlfriend? 
She was like, yes, I was like, 

472
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,200
OK, cool. 
And then I was sat there with a 

473
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,320
fucking mullet and jorts on and 
a Nirvana T-shirt and converse. 

474
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,360
So I mean, the writing was on 
the fucking wall that I had that

475
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,920
feeling. 
And I think that like even if I 

476
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440
like as a kid could have had 
that feeling, imagine how that 

477
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880
can manifest if you then never 
get anymore exposure to it or 

478
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,640
you don't actually research 
anything because you're a 

479
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,880
fucking bigot. 
I think people as well, like 

480
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,200
people need to be taught to 
research things. 

481
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,520
People so quickly will take 
anything as gospel if it's told 

482
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240
to them Is exactly how they've 
gotten into this situation with 

483
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,520
Trump because no research has 
happened is exactly why 

484
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840
everything happened in Gaza. 
No research. 

485
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,400
That's why so many people are 
able to get indoctrinated. 

486
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,560
No research, and the same goes 
for every issue, like every 

487
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,120
minority, like clue your fucking
self up. 

488
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,520
Like actually, if you read 
something and even if you like 

489
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,400
what you read, even if you like 
the headline or whatever it is, 

490
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,200
still research it because that 
could also be false. 

491
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,320
Or, you know, there's there's 
always like a nuance like I saw 

492
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,800
this this post the other day, 
these like beautiful lesbian 

493
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,920
couple, and I think I've been 
post of lesbian stuff. 

494
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,080
I was like love to see it. 
They're like when you realize 

495
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,920
that you can actually marry a 
woman or not a man. 

496
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,240
And there were these men in the 
comments of me like lesbians 

497
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,480
have the highest divorce rate. 
Give me a break, Darren. 

498
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,600
Give me a fucking break. 
Why are you not using your 

499
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,560
cognitive thinking skills like 
any ability to think about this 

500
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,920
properly? 
Think about it. 

501
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,680
Why do you think if that is the 
case, why do you think that 

502
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080
there is a higher rate? 
Because first of all, there are 

503
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,560
less lesbian married couples. 
So yes, there is going to be a 

504
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560
higher divorce rate per the 
amount of people that are 

505
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,480
married. 
OK, first of all, because it 

506
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,320
could be so it is marginal, 
marginal to the amount of 

507
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,680
divorces that happen with 
straight people. 

508
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,200
But because so many fucking 
straight people are married, 

509
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,240
that divorce rate is obviously 
not going to be as high. 

510
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,640
You absolute fucking dickhead. 
Secondly, women in women loving 

511
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,920
relationships are more likely to
be able to leave because they 

512
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,600
are not coerced by their 
partner. 

513
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,120
They are not financially held up
by the man. 

514
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,440
Usually they're like locked in 
with kids. 

515
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,520
They are financially dependent 
on the man. 

516
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,200
So that's another reason why 
they won't leave. 

517
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Thirdly, they could be in a very
bad domestic abuse situation. 

518
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,200
They cannot leave. 
Four, they might not end in 

519
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,520
divorce, but their husband 
probably fucking killed them. 

520
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,600
That's another thing, right? 
So we're not looking at like the

521
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,120
greater thing here. 
And this is what I mean when it 

522
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,600
comes to fucking research. 
But again, it's like more ways 

523
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,920
for them to be like, look at how
fucked up they're, they are. 

524
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,640
They are just fucking everything
over there. 

525
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,320
And it's like the more freedom 
we have, the more they will use 

526
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040
our freedom against us. 
And so that's why we all need to

527
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,680
be as like clued up as possible 
because it's like, no, you need 

528
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,680
to shoot that shit down 
instantly. 

529
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,040
It is complete bullshit. 
Like it is complete bullshit. 

530
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,760
And there is nothing wrong with 
having more representation. 

531
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,440
There is absolutely nothing 
wrong with that. 

532
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,600
And that is exactly why we are 
just trying to do everything 

533
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,840
that we can and like, have these
conversations, like send this to

534
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,880
a fucking straight. 
Like straight people can listen 

535
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,720
to this podcast as well. 
You know, when they're like, oh,

536
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,520
I don't think that's my 
demographic because it's called 

537
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,400
Lesbian Supper club. 
How many straight things do you 

538
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,520
think I've had to listen to my 
entire life? 

539
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,840
And I still listen to and I 
enjoy I enjoy it like might be 

540
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,320
hosted by like a straight couple
or like every film we've ever 

541
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,120
fucking watched or like TV 
shows, whatever that is. 

542
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Just because I'm not straight 
doesn't mean that I can't 

543
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,200
relate, doesn't mean that I 
can't enjoy it. 

544
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,840
And the same goes for this 
podcast. 

545
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,120
But I think that people see 
lesbian and they think they 

546
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,640
think it's like naughty. 
They think it's like, Oh, I 

547
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520
don't know if I want that on my 
Spotify. 

548
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,600
I don't know if I want somebody 
seeing that, like I follow 

549
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,120
lesbian supper club that they're
really going to think that I'm 

550
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,040
like gay or like that's wrong or
like, or that it's something 

551
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,920
raunchy. 
It's not fucking Pornhub, is it?

552
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,120
She just us chatting shit. 
But like that's another thing is

553
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,200
all like we'd never want to 
like. 

554
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
I think lesbians have always 
been so over sexualized. 

555
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,760
We don't over sexualize anything
that we do like, yeah, we like 

556
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680
to talk about sex, just like how
Alex Cooper would on caller 

557
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840
Daddy, talk about sex, talk 
about squatting. 

558
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,440
I don't give a fuck, right. 
But like with our events, no, 

559
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,680
we're not going to have 
strippers there. 

560
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720
I love strippers and I think 
that's fun and that's great. 

561
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080
But it's like we're stepping 
away from that because women are

562
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
always like over sexualized. 
And I think that like, it's 

563
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,760
great to like, own your 
sexuality and be sexually free, 

564
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240
go to sex parties, freak the 
fuck out. 

565
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,120
Like not freak off, by the way, 
but like the fuck out. 

566
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,920
Do whatever you want as long as 
you're not harming anyone. 

567
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,000
It's all consensual adults. 
Great, great, great. 

568
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,840
OK. 
But it doesn't always have to be

569
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,600
that way. 
And it's not a fucking given 

570
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800
that that is what you're going 
to get, you know? 

571
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,000
And that is another micro thing.
It's another micro thing that 

572
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,680
people then think. 
They think, oh, it's going to be

573
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,160
this. 
It's going to be very sexual. 

574
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,360
It's going to be duh, duh. 
They say the same about gay men.

575
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,480
And it's like, I'm not being 
funny. 

576
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,120
It's not because they're gay, 
it's because they're men. 

577
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,200
Typically, yes, they probably 
will be more promiscuous because

578
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,480
it's two men, right? 
You speak to any straight man 

579
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,040
and say if women liked to fuck 
around and by the way, women can

580
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,360
fucking fuck around too. 
Don't get me wrong, but like the

581
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,320
odds are less in terms of like 
the promiscuity, like especially

582
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840
with men of like that lack of 
attachment, everything else. 

583
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,400
If women were doing that left, 
right and centre as well and it 

584
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
wasn't I frowned upon, you 
fuckers would be doing it as 

585
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,000
well. 
Like don't even start. 

586
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,960
It is just because it's like, 
it's because it's two men and 

587
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440
like we should also just never 
have to really apologize for 

588
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,160
that. 
And I, I think that it's just 

589
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,000
all of those things though, that
like we hear or that it's dirty,

590
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,480
that it's wrong, that it's 
shady. 

591
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,240
That is why people then don't 
want their kid to be gay because

592
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,640
in their head they're like, 
well, they're going to be a 

593
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,440
little sexual demon, you know, 
and they're going to be dirty, 

594
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,720
they're going to be a disgrace 
because that's a lot of what has

595
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600
been fed. 
And I do know that like in some 

596
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,680
ways that there are, there is 
more representation. 

597
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480
And I mean, we're fucking 
trying, guys. 

598
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
Fucking trouble. 
That's why I want this to only 

599
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440
get like bigger and better 
because I'm not in an 

600
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920
indoctrinating way, because they
love to say that we're like 

601
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,080
shoving it down their throats. 
But no, it's just having 

602
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,720
conversation just so happens to 
be about lesbian culture or 

603
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640
about lesbian relationships, 
about lesbian friendships, about

604
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,760
coming out, about whatever the 
fuck it might be. 

605
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,840
That is representation. 
And the more people can have 

606
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,320
those conversations, the more it
can change their mind. 

607
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,640
I will challenge anyone, anyone 
on these conversations. 

608
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,720
And I have done it before before
and I've done it before when I 

609
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
was at a pub would live. 
Oh no, I, no, it was Anna, our 

610
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,360
friend Anna. 
And it was a few months back 

611
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400
now. 
And Anna, my friend is also gay.

612
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,520
And this guy sat down and he 
wanted to like talk about gay 

613
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,920
rights and all this kind of 
stuff. 

614
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,000
And I then sat there and I sat 
very calmly because I, by the 

615
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
way, don't get me wrong, I want 
to punch most people, but like 

616
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,680
whoever have views like this, I 
sat there very calmly and I 

617
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,800
spoke about it in just a very, 
very simple way because believe 

618
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,800
you me, you've got to make a 
fucking simple for these fuckers

619
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
because they clearly just like 
they ain't got it going on in 

620
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,120
their head to work out for 
themselves. 

621
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840
You've got to coach them like 
they're a child. 

622
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,680
And it took a little while. 
Like I invested about 45 minutes

623
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,560
of my time. 
I wouldn't always do this, but I

624
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,520
was like, I'm going to fucking 
do this today and I'm just not 

625
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,240
going to give up. 
And Anna's getting angry and 

626
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,640
angry. 
She's like sat there and I can 

627
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000
see that in her. 
By the end of it, you tell her, 

628
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,160
I was like, do you know what? 
You're right. 

629
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,120
And I know that's just one 
person. 

630
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480
And I know that he genuinely, 
and I will give this to him. 

631
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400
He actually did listen. 
He did take it in. 

632
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Some people fucking don't and 
they're just Dick heads. 

633
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
They can go get fucked, but he 
did take it in and and I was 

634
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000
like, I'm actually so impressed 
that you did that. 

635
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,160
You fucking schooled him. 
And not only that, but you 

636
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,200
actually changed his opinion. 
And The thing is, is that that 

637
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,040
has like a knock on effect 
because he's got kids, right? 

638
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,000
I'm hoping, I'm hoping in my 
little like dreamland in my 

639
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,320
brain that he's going to carry 
some of that through how he 

640
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,040
changed his mind and give people
the allowance to change their 

641
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440
mind. 
Because sometimes as well, 

642
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,080
coming at it with so much 
aggression as anger as I get 

643
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,880
about it is only going to fuel 
them. 

644
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,520
It's only going to give them 
what they want. 

645
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600
It's only going to then make 
them more vindicated in what 

646
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400
they feel, you know, because 
they don't care about hurting 

647
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,920
you. 
They don't care that that 

648
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,440
aggression actually comes from 
being so deeply hurt for being 

649
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,920
who you are. 
No, no, no, they don't see it 

650
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
like that. 
They don't have the EQ for that.

651
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,960
They just think, well, look at 
them getting all fucking angry. 

652
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,560
They're so aggressive, they're 
violent, they're this, they're 

653
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,040
that. 
And it just further fuels like 

654
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200
the really negative connotations
with with US gaze. 

655
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880
And I just think that the more 
we can just like chat and chat, 

656
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,160
chat and chat and chat way. 
And if you can own that 

657
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,560
sexuality and just like have so 
much pride about it, especially 

658
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320
with everything that's going on.
It's like if you seem someone 

659
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,000
fazed about being gay, I mean, 
I, I know that I genuinely am. 

660
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,440
I'm fazed about being gay. 
I absolutely love it. 

661
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,040
I love it. 
But like, if you can even just 

662
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,040
try and think, no, this, this is
a positive thing that I am just 

663
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960
being authentically me, then 
it's only ever they're going to 

664
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,200
get better for you and you're 
going to be more and more and 

665
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,640
more untouchable. 
And you're going to when people 

666
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,080
smell a shame on you, they want 
to treat you like it is shameful

667
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,240
because a lot of people are just
bitter and stupid. 

668
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,440
So that's that. 
But yeah, I, I don't know, 

669
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,400
because I'm, I'm interested to 
know what you guys think about 

670
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280
the whole coming out situation. 
Like, do you think that it's 

671
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280
good? 
Am I, am I the one that's in the

672
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,800
wrong here? 
Like do you think that maybe it 

673
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280
is good that we're like owning 
who we are and that we're like, 

674
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,560
we're saying that I'm not saying
that we shouldn't own it, but do

675
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,920
you think that it's a good it 
says? 

676
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Are there other reasons as to 
why you think it's bad that I 

677
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280
haven't touched on? 
I would honestly love to know 

678
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560
because I love it when you guys 
actually like comment and say, 

679
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800
oh, but also this because I 
don't fucking know it all. 

680
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,920
I don't know. 
I know that means college chat 

681
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,600
here as like the lesbian supper 
club, but I don't know all and I

682
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,880
never will, you know, and I 
think that I'm always down for 

683
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,600
learning and also changing my 
mind on like certain things. 

684
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Obviously not my core values. 
Cannot knock those out of me 

685
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,120
even if you fucking punch around
the head or like kick me to the 

686
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,360
temple. 
This little swift hit in the no,

687
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,600
there's no way it's not coming 
out of me. 

688
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,960
But there are opinions that I 
could have that definitely 

689
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,840
somebody might be able to 
actually like change and I'm I'm

690
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,480
all ears for that and any way 
that you think that maybe we 

691
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,240
could just like start maybe I 
just start a no coming out 

692
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,000
campaign. 
I just like parade it globally, 

693
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,960
just I don't want to go out. 
No coming out, no coming out, 

694
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,960
stay in, stay out, be out, be 
no, actually just be. 

695
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,880
What the fuck am I saying? 
Be out, don't stay in. 

696
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,600
It's like be out, stay out and 
give everyone never, never give 

697
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,520
somebody the opportunity to ever
feel shame. 

698
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,120
And just because you give 
children that you are raising 

699
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,280
the the knowledge that they 
could be with either sex doesn't

700
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,120
mean that they are going to be 
attracted to the same sex. 

701
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,240
You need to understand that if 
that was the case I would be 

702
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000
straight. 
The logic isn't logic. 

703
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Like we are born either 
attracted to one sex, the other 

704
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000
sex both sexes. 
That's what it is and it doesn't

705
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200
need to be more complicated than
that. 

706
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,520
We are not going to make people 
gay, and even if we fucking did,

707
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760
calm the fuck down. 
Even if you are making them gay,

708
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120
fuck, make them all gay as far 
as I'm concerned. 

709
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Yeah, it's just not going to 
happen. 

710
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,199
There's no harm in it. 
The only thing that you're ever 

711
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:17,840
going to do is remove that inner
shame and like self judgement 

712
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,760
from a kid. 
And wouldn't you love the 

713
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040
ability to be able to do that to
your own child? 

714
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080
And you'd love the ability to 
literally be able to know that 

715
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000
they were never going to have to
really suffer, at least from 

716
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360
your end, at least from their 
parents. 

717
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,159
You know, because that's, those 
are the formative years. 

718
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,600
Those are the years where our 
our nervous systems are being 

719
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,600
developed and we hold that shit 
with us like the rest of our 

720
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560
lives lives. 
And no matter how much therapy 

721
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,480
we go through, you hold it. 
That pain that you felt, and I 

722
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,800
don't want anyone to feel that 
ever for just simply being who 

723
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,520
they are. 
You haven't done anything wrong.

724
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,679
There is nothing wrong about it.
So that's my two cents. 

725
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,360
Talk about that. 
Actually, I've also started to 

726
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520
chat now that I'm single, I've 
started to change my mind on 

727
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,720
having kids. 
I'm like, I think I could have a

728
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,160
child. 
That's for another episode. 

729
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,160
I've been feeling it recently. 
I've been like, actually my mind

730
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,640
is starting to change on having 
kids and I'm thinking I don't 

731
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,840
know if it's maybe where I'm 
getting old or whatever it is, 

732
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,680
but I'm like, would actually 
think that that would be really 

733
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,480
fulfilling and not to like, I 
want to be extremely fulfilled 

734
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,000
in my life elsewhere because I 
also think that that's quite 

735
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
dangerous when you like have a 
child to be fulfilled. 

736
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,440
But yeah, I don't know. 
I think would it actually be 

737
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,320
really nice to have that? 
So, well, next episode I could 

738
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,320
be pregnant. 
You never know. 

739
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,800
I hopefully fucking not. 
I'll probably go over it, but 

740
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,200
see opinions. 
They can change. 

741
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,760
I was like I was, I didn't want 
children. 

742
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,760
I did not want children. 
And now that it's changing. 

743
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,480
So there you go. 
We can all change any minute 

744
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200
now. 
Lesbians, I love you so much. 

745
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,360
We've oh, before I go, we've got
karaoke night next week, which 

746
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,240
I'm fucking stoked for on actual
Halloween night and just come as

747
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,680
your big bad lesbian self. 
I've I'm toying between a few 

748
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,760
ideas. 
I don't know whether to go as 

749
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Gwen Stefani. 
I don't know whether to go as 

750
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Coyote Ugly. 
I ain't got a fucking clue. 

751
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,680
I need to figure something out. 
I always do something really 

752
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,520
last minute, but it's going to 
be fun. 

753
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,760
And last Halloween night was 
hysterical. 

754
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Hysterical. 
So like, I cannot wait to see 

755
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,840
what you guys bring this time. 
I will pop the link in the bio 

756
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,560
and really can't wait to see 
more of you and especially when 

757
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,360
you're all dressed up. 
Did I even mention karaoke night

758
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,880
as well? 
Though? 

759
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,680
We did have a karaoke night. 
I don't know if Scarlett 

760
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,400
mentioned it on the last one, 
but the karaoke night was 

761
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,120
absolutely. 
That was so funny. 

762
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,560
That was so funny. 
That was my own personal stage. 

763
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,040
I don't know who the fuck I 
thought I would. 

764
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
It was my knees and my legs. 
My thighs were killing me the 

765
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,440
next day because I was slut 
dropping to Britney Spears. 

766
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,240
I put on a full show. 
I was like, I'm always like, I'm

767
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,280
so stressed. 
Amazing event. 

768
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Like literally spend 6 hours 
just screaming down the mic. 

769
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960
But honestly I feel like this is
therapy. 

770
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Like I actually think that 
everyone afterwards was like, 

771
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680
yeah that was therapy. 
We all needed that. 

772
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,640
We all needed to get into a room
and do that. 

773
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,640
And I think that we all just 
need to bring the fun back into 

774
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,680
life. 
Hot on those outfits, go to 

775
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,280
karaoke. 
We need to do more things that 

776
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,920
are just fun and and life is 
worth having fun for. 

777
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,880
We need to do the things that 
are weird that maybe even in the

778
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,840
moment when you're doing this 
year, but like, well, that's a 

779
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,480
bit shit. 
I'm not on about karaoke, but 

780
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,560
like anything, it's like, Oh, 
that's a bit shit. 

781
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,080
It's a funny fucking story. 
Or even if something is cringe, 

782
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,920
you're like, you know that 
tomorrow you can tell that story

783
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,600
to people and you're like, Jesus
fucking Christ. 

784
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,840
But I I'm trying to get more and
more, more and more events in my

785
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240
life like that. 
And if you look at your life as 

786
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,520
if you were like you were a 
book, your life is a book that 

787
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,160
someone was going to read. 
Do you want to be out and about 

788
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,000
causing a fucking ruckus doing 
whatever it is, being stupid 

789
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120
with your friends, doing things 
that are fun, that are colorful?

790
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,720
Or do you want the book to just 
read? 

791
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,720
And she stayed in and watched 
Netflix again with her 10 cats, 

792
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,680
and she drunk a bottle of wine 
to herself and fell asleep. 

793
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,720
And a book like, do you want to 
live a life that someone would 

794
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,400
want to read? 
Absolutely. 

795
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,800
And sometimes when you think of 
that thing we like, do I really 

796
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,280
want to just go? 
Just just do it. 

797
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Just go and do it. 
This is your sign. 

798
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,120
If somebody's asking you to do 
something right now, just go and

799
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640
fucking do it. 
And you can always leave. 

800
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,720
You don't have to stay out long.
But it's like if you go and you 

801
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,800
do the thing, you say yes, have 
more fun. 

802
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Life has gotten so stressful for
everyone and fun is just out. 

803
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,240
Like people aren't doing that 
crazy shit anymore. 

804
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,880
And it's because as well, 
everything is documented, which 

805
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,760
can in turn make some people 
create more fun things. 

806
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,200
So say like people on TikTok are
doing like 30 days of dressing 

807
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,960
up for Halloween and they're 
doing like these hilarious 

808
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360
outfits like every single time. 
Shit like that can be fun. 

809
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,960
But I do genuinely think, like 
overall, we've literally created

810
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,240
our own fucking George Orwell. 
We all thought it was going to 

811
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,680
be these massive surveillance 
cameras, but it's actually just 

812
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,280
everyone with their phones 
recording each other. 

813
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160
We have done it ourselves. 
We are surveillancing everyone. 

814
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Everything is recorded. 
You can't do anything now 

815
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,720
without having that. 
So I think that it genuinely has

816
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,600
taken away like that, like silly
nature of life. 

817
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,120
And to actually just be silly is
good. 

818
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,000
It's not stupid stupid. 
It has a negative conversation 

819
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,360
with that stupid, but sometimes 
it can be fucking stupid and who

820
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520
gives a fuck? 
Like you're having fun, you're 

821
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,760
having a laugh, even if it's on 
your own or you're having it 

822
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,880
with your friends, your family, 
like whatever it is, you're 

823
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,760
having a laugh. 
Like you are being silly. 

824
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,520
People are people are taking 
themselves way too fucking 

825
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,400
seriously now. 
And I think that the more that 

826
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,240
like this is encouraging, the 
more people are doing it, the 

827
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,120
more it's going to become 
normalized. 

828
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,560
People are going to do that 
again. 

829
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Like even humor, like back in 
the day on TV, it used to be 

830
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,520
like silly humor. 
Like it was like lipstick. 

831
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
It was silly, but it was because
it was just so light hearted. 

832
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,880
There's like none of that 
anymore because people are like,

833
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,280
oh, it's got to, it's got to be 
nuanced and it's got to be dark 

834
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,320
and dry and, and it's like, no, 
it doesn't actually. 

835
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Like you can just be fucking 
stupid and you can have a laugh.

836
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560
But anyway, on that note, have 
some fun. 

837
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,760
Do the thing that you want to 
fucking do. 

838
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Don't feel bad about doing 
something that was fun that like

839
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,840
whatever it was, just think life
is not that. 

840
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,280
Do be that character and enjoy 
it. 

841
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,040
And if you are thinking about 
coming out or whatever your 

842
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,240
situation might be or you're 
kind of struggling through it 

843
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,480
right now, we are also all ears 
and anything that you guys have 

844
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120
to share, like first of all, I'm
really sorry that you're going 

845
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,120
through it, but also we're here 
to support you and we will talk 

846
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,800
about this shit and it gives us 
gives us more. 

847
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Ammo, more ammunition, more wild
domination, you know how it is. 

848
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Anyway, lesbians, I love you and
I can't wait for you guys to 

849
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,600
hear and see what we have in 
stock with you very very soon. 

850
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560
So we will speak to you next 
week. 

851
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,480
Bye bye.
