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Hello lesbians, it is the first 
ever episode of 2026 and I think

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I can safely say fuck off 2025. 
Goodbye sayonara. 

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Adios Chao Chao. 
Happy days. 

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See you later. 
Just just fuck off. 

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Actually, fuck, just fuck off. 
You fucking the hunt of a year. 

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I'm sat here with the manager. 
Liv. 

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We haven't had you on here in 
ages, have we? 

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No, and I am thrilled. 
No thrilled. 

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To be back. 
This feels right. 

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It does, and we're in matching 
outfits. 

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Oh my God, we are. 
It's just notice we've got like 

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the the light jeans, the black 
tea. 

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We're both housing a baguette. 
Just a baguette. 

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Just some baguette, yeah. 
With some olive oil, which also 

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by the way, killer combo, really
good. 

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But it's because we both cycled 
today on that I got sent this 

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indoor bike thing that's like a 
Peloton but not. 

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Burn. 
No, but like it's not, it's not 

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a Peloton, but like it's the 
only way that I could really 

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describe it. 
I did 10K on that and live. 

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That's not out there. 
No, but no, no, we. 

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I think we did really well 
considering the fact that I 

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don't work out, like I haven't 
been to the gym in so long. 

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You and I got into a really good
routine and then we just, I 

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don't know. 
I said I looked worse than that 

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is the worst I've ever looked 
was when I was going to the gym.

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Five, I think I looked worse. 
I we, I don't really know how. 

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I was also too stone heavier 
than I am now. 

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I think 10 kilos heavier. 
Than that, I think that was the 

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exact same well, but you were 
just saying it's because we went

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through a really bad biscuit 
phase. 

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I think it might have been the 
biscuits, but it calms my soul 

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more to say that I was the worst
and largest when I was at the. 

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Gym, we'll go with that 
narrative. 

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We'll go with that narrative. 
We've also got another friend of

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ours joining in a bit, but she's
late, which never happens with 

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Nat. 
Actually, Nat is always so 

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early. 
Yeah, she is. 

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Always. 
So. 

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I wonder if she's riddled with 
anxiety. 

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And we've all got a date with 
the pub, so we were like, well, 

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we may as well start the 
episode. 

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Nat can come on in, put her 2 
pence in and then we'll go fuck 

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off to the pub basically. 
As we normally do. 

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We normally do. 
Our routines have never changed.

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We may be in a new year, but the
routine still. 

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I love a routine. 
Can I just say I love a routine?

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Oh yeah, yeah. 
And I think I've realized where 

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it comes from. 
I've read something when I say 

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I've read something, I probably 
saw a TikTok. 

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I've read something and they 
were saying that it's the people

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who have high levels of trauma, 
stress, anxiety throughout their

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lives. 
Having a routine and that 

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routine being disrupted is 
really, really negative for that

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person. 
It's also like an ADHD thing as 

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well. 
Yeah, I was going to say it's 

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very like ADHD, autism. 
Yeah, yeah, it's neuro divergent

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as fuck. 
That's not going away. 

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That's not going anywhere. 
Yeah, I but I think as well it's

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the same reason behind watching 
the same movie over and over 

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again. 
Oh, that's an anxiety thing. 

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I've I've. 
Because you know what's going to

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happen. 
Yeah, you can just have it on in

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the background and not have to 
really focus on it, which I do 

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that. 
Can I say I do that with Emily 

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in Paris? 
Emily in Paris is my dead brain 

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cell TV show and like nothing 
should make sense in that show. 

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It's all very fairy tale and 
like, oh, just miraculously this

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kind of happened and whatever. 
I don't care. 

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I love it for that because I'm 
just ever watched it. 

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I'm just sitting there watching 
it, like just smiling along and 

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seeing her kind of just go in 
different love triangles and 

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stuff. 
Just kind of makes me feel a 

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little bit better about my life 
to honest, yeah. 

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Anyway. 
Let's have a quick debrief on 

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our Christmases. 
So we already did that episode, 

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which is like, Christmas is 
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I think it was Scarlet that did 
that one. 

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See, my memories fucked. 
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Why did it feel like the 
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went on forever? 
I was so ready for it to end. 

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And I know that that sounds 
ridiculous. 

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My, my soul, my lover, my 
dignity was ready for Christmas 

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to be done. 
Yeah, and your lungs with the 

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vape. 
With the vape. 

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Yeah, so I've been back up to 
Newcastle to see my family and 

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friends and everyone at home 
just vapes and I naturally get 

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sucked into that because my mum 
is an absolute chronic vapour. 

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Therefore I have come back to 
London with a big vape that 

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looks like a tank and it's also 
I've realized it's wicked 

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colour. 
Oh, it is. 

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Yeah, so I've got my alphabet 
and Glinda. 

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Vape, that is. 
Freya hates it. 

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I'm going. 
I'm going to bin it when it's 

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done. 
I just love smoking cigarettes. 

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Yeah, but I'm still doing both, 
so that's the problem. 

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I just think that vapes are so 
much worse for you. 

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Oh, and I know that I'm not on 
some like moral high ground. 

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It's like, oh, because I do 
smoke cigarettes. 

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So I sound like a major 
hypocrite. 

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No, I agree they're terrible. 
But cigarettes have been around 

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when? 
When was cigarettes even 

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invented? 
They've been around forever. 

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Oh, long, long time. 
And how long are vapes around? 

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Oh. 
You know. 

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Scary. 
Who knows? 

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You're literally smoking a 
battery. 

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Like it does look like a tank. 
I feel like you could ride that 

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if it had pedals, you could 
cycle it like it's so it is so 

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big. 
Yeah, what the hell? 

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So yeah, my Christmas was quite 
like, it was quite chilled some,

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some days chilled, some days 
not. 

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It's always catching up with 
people going out, but it was 

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like a nice little reset. 
What stayed at home for New 

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Year's Eve, which was nice, did 
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Which was? 
Really nice, went to go watch 

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some fireworks, came home, had 
some food and I saw the new year

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in by completing New York Times 
crossword. 

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Nice. 
And then took myself to sleep. 

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Wow, I honestly woke up the next
day I've in my head I was like, 

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that was actually the best way 
for me to end the year. 

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Calmly. 
Calmly, yeah. 

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Just to just to eliminate the 
chaos. 

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Yeah, I understand. 
Yeah, you just wash away the 

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drama with a crossword. 
It works. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And that's fine. 

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Maybe maybe we should start 
doing that. 

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If you're like in a, in like a 
relationship or, or like 

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something's going on with 
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you never fucking listen to me 
anyway and nothing ever goes 

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through your head. 
So therefore I'm going to create

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my own personal crossword for 
you to really have to decipher 

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and figure out, Oh my God, what 
this means. 

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That's great. 
So it's like, so it's like 4 

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letters, right? 
What I think you're being when 

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you ignore my texts. 
Can't. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah. 

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That's actually a really good 
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Should we make a crossword 
That's hilarious. 

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That's going to use a lot of 
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crossword with like the letters 
and up, down, whatever, but I 

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think. 
We could do it. 

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I think we could definitely do 
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Probably just get a chat for two
to help me on that one. 

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That's actually a brilliant 
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All right, We'll mark that one 
down. 

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Yeah. 
And so I I mean, I missed you. 

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I mean, you were, you were going
away for weeks. 

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It's gone for three weeks, which
is quite rare for me it. 

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Did it did feel like forever? 
Really. 

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Really. 
Dry. 

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It felt too long. 
I kind of forgot what you looked

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like, what you sound like. 
It's the whole thing. 

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I mean, I, I, I don't think I 
was in the right emotional space

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to not have enough work going on
over that period. 

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And it was funny because I me 
and Scarlett both said when we 

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came back from New York, we were
like, did I say about the way 

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that I almost died after New 
York? 

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By the way? 
I haven't said that. 

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I don't think I've done an 
episode. 

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No, you haven't since New York. 
Very quickly going back, just 

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really rewinding, rewinding. 
First of all, New York, fucking 

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amazing. 
I know that Scarlett already 

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spoke about this one on the pod.
Can I tell you New York almost 

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fucking killed me. 
Can you still hear my voice? 

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This is it was over a month. 
When you walk through that door,

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when you guys got back, I was 
shocked because you don't get 

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ill. 
Oh. 

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I think arrival. 
This could be. 

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Arrived heated, he took oh 
fucking hell, heated the 

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rivalry. 
Hold that thought. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah, New York, incredible. 

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But it almost, it did almost 
kill me. 

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I've got to the last day. 
And I thought, you know, you 

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when you get that impending doom
feeling, you think it's it's all

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going to end. 
It's all going to end. 

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And I thought, do I just get a 
flight for today instead of 

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tomorrow? 
But my stupid air said no, I'm 

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staying here. 
And I had the world's worst 

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fucking ramen in bed in this 
hotel. 

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The hotel was gorgeous. 
I couldn't even enjoy it. 

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You hated the food though, 
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Oh my God, no, don't, because 
they're actually going to come 

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for me. 
I'm not going to say anything 

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about their food. 
I think I went to maybe all the 

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wrong places. 
No, because loads of Americans 

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say that the food over here 
sucks. 

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Yeah, fuck you Americans. 
Yeah, it just felt really bland.

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And they don't even like add any
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table. 
So even like try and redeem 

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themselves. 
So it's actually just quite sad,

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to be honest with you. 
Didn't really like the food that

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much. 
Love the people, love the place.

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So it was great. 
Could do with less Trump 

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paraphernalia everywhere, but 
never mind. 

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I did end up wearing one of the 
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Oh, right, right, right. 
It's like, it's like a merkin 

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for a cat. 
It's just one of the worst 

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things I've ever seen. 
It is a joke. 

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I think actually putting that 
cap on might have cursed me 

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because it was after that I 
started to go downhill pretty 

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quick. 
Yeah. 

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I was lying in that hotel room 
and I thought, it's all over. 

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And then I woke up in like a 
fever. 

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And then Scarlett was like, 
we've got to get ready. 

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We've got to go to JFK. 
And I just, like, sat at the end

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of the bed and just cried and 
then went through. 

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JFKI knew it was bad because 
Scarlett was rallying around me 

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like nothing I've ever seen 
before. 

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She is arguing with security 
guards. 

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She's arguing with like, 
literally anyone that she can 

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get her hands on who's delaying 
the process. 

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She's Jenny. 
She's going, she's sick and 

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she's shouting, she's yelling, 
she's grabbing everything. 

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She's grabbing my bag, she's 
grabbing her bag. 

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I'm like about to faint at any 
minute and then like grabbing me

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Dayquil and all this kind of 
stuff. 

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And like Scarlet, like bless her
lovely girl, really nice. 

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Lovely girl. 
In in an instance like this 

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usually wouldn't be the best, 
but she really, really stepped 

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up. 
And that's when I knew Freya, 

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you might actually pass away. 
And this is this is the last 

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you're going to see of everyone.
Nat then turns up who Nat has 

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actually signed up. 
Now Nat is here now. 

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But Nat then turns up to the 
airport and looks at me and she 

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goes a whole baby crew. 
Yeah, it was bad. 

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So I was just, yeah, that 
knocked me fucking out. 

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You were I'll for quite a while 
when you came back. 

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That was bad. 
And then you passed. 

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It around to everyone which is 
lovely. 

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I actually didn't. 
I kept getting little waves of 

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it though. 
No, I didn't. 

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And also Nat didn't get it. 
Also I'm not being funny. 

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Like no, I didn't get, I didn't 
give it to any. 

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No, that was in a close 
proximity. 

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No, you can actually take that 
back. 

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All our friends just started to 
get a little bit I'll. 

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Oh, no, actually, no. 
No, no, no, they were all I'll 

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before. 
And they say to Leo. 

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Anything Leo's. 
No, Leo did not. 

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I'm sorry these bitches didn't 
have what I had, what I had 

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because like, no, I'm not having
it because I was very 

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responsible. 
I was like literally sanitizing 

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down like everything. 
I took everything under the sun.

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I even listened to hypnosis 
tapes 8 hours overnight. 

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That's like the virus in my body
doesn't exist and all this kind 

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of shit. 
I mean, it fucking worked 

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because I did feel better, but I
just it just kind of you've. 

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Gained a really nice Husky 
voice. 

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You've gained weight, Yeah. 
And you've gained weight, Yeah. 

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I have actually gained a Husky 
voice out of it. 

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So there are pros. 
I want this to stay. 

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It's been 5 weeks and it's still
kicking, so I think it's pretty 

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fucking good to be honest. 
But yeah, New York, amazing 

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Christmas. 
Yeah, great. 

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Have my family over same old. 
It was nice. 

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Whatever. 
I'm not really that asked about 

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Christmas. 
I think it's a bit of a boring 

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conversation from one is with 
you brought in the new year with

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my best friend from Australia. 
Well, not from home, but also 

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Australia and whatever the fuck.
Tash, who subsequently was a 

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girl that I also used to date, 
but she's primarily like bestie,

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bestie, bestie girl. 
So I met her and her girlfriend 

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who I'm actually obsessed with. 
You know when you meet someone 

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and you're like, we were kind of
like pen pals for a little while

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because I just like seen her. 
I. 

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Didn't get to see them. 
Yeah, really good vibes. 

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So it was just so nice, like 
Scarlett was there, friend Sam 

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came, Jess was there being 
lanky, Jess just all over the 

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place. 
Absolutely loved it. 

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Jess has been like over the 
Christmas period as well. 

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It's so good. 
Whilst I've just been crashing 

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out left, right and centre. 
But we've brought in the new 

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year and it's all looking a lot 
more positive. 

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So that's why we wanted to do 
and insurance and outs for 2026.

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Hell yes, it's going me, Liv, 
Nat and none of us know what 

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each other have written down. 
Just going to say I only did 2 

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outs. 
I can't think of any ends. 

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Insurance are really hard. 
Here's not everyone. 

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Yeah, I will let you introduce 
yourself, but Nat is the 

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resident bisexual, the resident 
bisexual correspondent of the 

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Lesbian Supper Club and also our
beautiful photographer who does 

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all of our shots for us. 
So she is my little right hand 

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man. 
Hello, you look pretty lesbians.

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This is me. 
This is very exciting but I 

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don't want to go first from the 
insurance and outs. 

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So that's a you. 
Can give yourself. 

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OK, a little introduction. 
Yeah, Nat feels like ASL age 

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sucks. 
Yeah. 

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Photographer and resident 
bisexual. 

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Honoured to be on the lesbian 
podcast. 

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Oh. 
My God, literally the only I'm 

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joking, the only bisexual aloud.
But no, I mean I meet me pet, 

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our friend Perry and also Nat. 
We've discovered that we've 

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created ourselves like a board 
meeting chat, which is basically

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just whenever there is an issue 
that is to go around. 

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It could be to do with us, it 
could be to do with other 

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people, people situated with us.
It goes straight to the board, 

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right? 
And Perry was supposed Perry was

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supposed to be here, but Perry 
chickened out. 

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Board member. 
Perry Board. 

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Members. 
Board. 

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Board. 
So it's like Sister Mary is 

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board member Perry, board member
Nat, board member Freya, and 

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we've got our things that we 
know are approved by the board 

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and some things are just simply 
not approved by the board. 

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Are you allowed to give any 
examples or? 

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No, I was about to say, we do 
have an agenda on Lovely. 

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Is it like a daily agenda or a 
weekly agenda, but ad hoc? 

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Ad hoc. 
In Orange, Gina. 

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Third Space. 
Outdoor cryotherapy, Summer 20, 

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Summer 2016. 
Playlist outs. 

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Empathy. 
Take take that as you will, you 

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know, it's it's a very we didn't
say the board was always right 

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or. 
Yeah, why is empathy out? 

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Toxic empathy is out. 
Oh, you know what dark empathy 

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is out. 
Toxic empathy is out when you 

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just, you're really not. 
Yeah, it's not good for anyone. 

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It's like when people pleasing 
is so so bad because it doesn't 

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please anyone. 
Toxic people pleasing almost. 

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Yeah, that's interesting. 
What's the icon? 

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It's a board meeting, a bunch of
white men. 

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You need to like Photoshop 
yourselves on it in the in an 

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actual board meeting, no? 
Yeah, but that's in the To Do 

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List on the agenda. 
You can also ask the board 

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questions live if you ever want 
some really great. 

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Oh, yes, live or anyone that's 
listening, if you ever want to 

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submit a question to the board 
to see if the board will approve

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it, you send it our way and we 
will either go board approve or 

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board reject. 
Yeah. 

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So I'd send the question to you 
guys and then you discussed 

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amongst yourselves or would we 
sit in like a board? 

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The board would discuss. 
It's very like Benedaziri, like 

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it's quite right. 
Yes, the board will take it 

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away. 
We'll discuss it in brought in. 

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Very good detail. 
And then we go back with either 

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a yes or no board approved, 
board rejects. 

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But quite great. 
The board takes no 

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responsibility for any results. 
And This is why that did a law 

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degree. 
Just to be on the board. 

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Making sense? 
Why don't you start with your 

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insurance and outs? 
OK, I will. 

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I will go first with my 
insurance and outs for for 2026.

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I'm going to start with the outs
because the outs is actually so 

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much easier. 
I've got to be honest with you 

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guys. 
OK, outs for 2026 shagging men 

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and saying you're a lesbian out 
discuss what not, but you don't 

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call yourself a lesbian, so it's
fine. 

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Not just look at me like. 
Wait, so shagging men and 

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calling yourself a lesbian? 
Yeah, yeah, ow, it's. 

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Fucking out. 
No, but do you know how often 

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this happens? 
I'll be like, I'm a lesbian, I'm

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a lesbian. 
It's like, Oh yeah, she just 

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fucked that guy from the bar the
other night though. 

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And they're like, Oh yeah, well,
I did it for validation. 

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First of all, if you're doing it
for validation, sort your actual

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life out because that's 
terrifying to. 

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Me, I feel like there's a couple
people we know that do that and 

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it's just a bit. 
And. 

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Interesting. 
Secondly, if you're doing it a 

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validation, but you're like 
actually enjoying it, you're 

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probably not a lesbian. 
You can still be a queer woman 

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that. 
Was such a long force which will

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be gone every answer thinking 
about she could say something 

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wrong. 
No I bring back labels. 

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Maybe that's my end yeah but 
like I'm sorry to be the bearer 

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of bad news but like words have 
meaning. 

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Mic drop. 
And if it doesn't apply to you 

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that's OK like you don't have to
use it you can even get ready 

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for it Use a different label. 
Yeah, I'm pretty sure one will 

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exist in today's world. 
So true. 

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It was like this video that I 
saw today where these two gay 

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trans man going. 
I'm a gay trans man, but I 

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identify as a lesbian and the 
other one's like, I'm a gay 

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trans man and I identify as a 
lesbian. 

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Should we let's off together? 
And it's like, actually, no, you

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shouldn't. 
Also, they just invalidated 

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themselves. 
You just invalidated your 

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gender. 
This is why. 

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People, like, get bullied. 
How can you be a lesbian and get

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into. 
I'm honestly, like, so baffled 

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and confused. 
They were like, they're looking 

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at each other and, you know, 
it's like, my name is just 

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really nice. 
Is it my name? 

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What's the song? 
Is this illegal? 

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Is this illegal? 
Yeah. 

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Princess. 
My name is that's the one. 

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My name is Bacon. 
It's really nice to meet you. 

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Yeah. 
And says like, I'm a trans gay 

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guy but feel like a lesbian. 
And the other one was like, I'm 

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a trans gay guy and I also feel 
like a lesbian. 

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Shall we let's off together? 
And they're like, oh, why the 

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fuck are you doing that? 
Like I just don't understand 

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because like you are 
invalidating yourself and I, I 

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validate trans people as the 
gender of which they have which 

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they believe is their gender. 
So therefore I'll be like, okay,

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fantastic, you're now a man. 
You're a man to me, therefore 

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you can't be a fucking. 
No, you just, you can't. 

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You can't be saying that. 
You can't just pick a low. 

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Or that comment that was like, 
do men have to insert themselves

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everywhere? 
You're doing a fantastic job. 

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So yes, stop saying that you're 
a lesbian if you sleep with men,

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especially if you sleep with 
them frequently. 

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Like I know that I used to sleep
with men and I was trying to 

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discover my sexuality before I 
discovered my sexuality 

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throughout the journey of 
discovering my sexuality. 

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I'm not discrediting any of 
that, but if you are openly 

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going around me like I'm a 
lesbian, I'm a lesbian, I'm a 

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lesbian, and like frequently 
sleep with men, show yourself 

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the door. 
Why do you think they're doing 

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that? 
Because they want the title of 

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lesbian they. 
Want the clown? 

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They want the clown. 
Lesbian clown. 

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Lesbian clown, that babe. 
I know it's great on this side, 

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but if you're gonna be sucking 
Dick. 

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So yeah, unless it's you now. 
But the difference is, is that 

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you say that you're bisexual. 
Yeah, so fair. 

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Thanks. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, OK. 
That was my out. 

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I'm going to go to. 
You're out. 

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Oh. 
Are we doing out, out, out? 

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Yeah, we can do it out. 
And then I've got no end. 

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So I'll be skipping my ends. 
OK. 

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One of my outs. 
Oh, was pretending that they're 

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red flags are just their 
communication styles. 

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Have you heard? 
That say it again, sorry. 

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So when people be like when 
someone's describing a girl to 

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you or like, say, like, say if 
you start dating someone and you

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were saying something to me and 
I was like, oh, that's a bit of 

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a red flag. 
And you're like, no, no, that's 

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just her communication style 
because she's like an avoidant 

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or like blah, blah, blah. 
Do I? 

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Do I have one? 
She's not. 

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Oh yeah. 
She's not an avoidant. 

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She just doesn't like you. 
Yeah. 

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Oh my God, it's so true. 
Completely agree with this. 

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But remember that. 
Discuss. 

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Definitely, he agrees. 
This is bad. 

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This is really bad that this is.
No, but that is right. 

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Well done. 
That was a good observation. 

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Thank you. 
We need to unpack this more 

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actually. 
Yeah, I think we should discuss 

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this more because it's quite an 
important one. 

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Do we think we people just use 
it to justify that this person 

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is like like a? 
100%. 

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What's like the incentive? 
Oh. 

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Yeah. 
What is the incentive? 

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What if they just say like, it's
just that communication style, 

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right, right, right. 
I think also we live in the time

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where everything is so 
pathologized, like every 

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character trait is actually a 
diagnosis, which is a real. 

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Oh my God, be like she slapped 
me around the face but she has 

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PTSD. 
OK, but what is a character 

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trait and what is a symptom of a
mental illness? 

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00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480
Oh, how do we differentiate 
that? 

456
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,040
And should we start naming 
things as a mental illness and 

457
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,280
not our character traits? 
And should we use that as 

458
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,120
justification? 
Is it giving ableism if we say 

459
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,320
actually, you know, you can't 
treat me that way all because 

460
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,640
you have ADHD or something? 
Yeah, that's so true. 

461
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,040
I, I would always say because, 
especially before I was like 

462
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,440
diagnosed officially or like on 
medication, or because when I 

463
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,360
say diagnosed officially, it's 
because it helped me really 

464
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,000
understand myself a lot more. 
So regulating my emotions came a

465
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,520
lot easier, but my emotional 
regulation was pretty shocking. 

466
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,480
I would never say, oh, but 
that's because of my ADHD. 

467
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,920
I would like own it and be like,
I didn't mean to like snap like 

468
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,080
that or like go on in that 
moment. 

469
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,720
It's because I was panicking 
blah, blah. 

470
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,320
But then I, I probably would 
say, I don't know, it's really, 

471
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,120
really difficult because it's 
like you have to take 

472
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,200
accountability. 
You have to take full 

473
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,200
accountability because, you 
know, we are still in control 

474
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,400
even though it's a lot harder. 
There is like an element of 

475
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,680
control in there. 
But being like, OK, this is 

476
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080
something that I really need to 
work on with my ADHD or like 

477
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,960
something that I need to see 
someone about, you know? 

478
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,200
So it's kind of like, yeah, it's
kind of an excuse and 

479
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,240
accountability. 
It's like a. 

480
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,960
Gray, Gray area. 
I mean, if you are in like a 

481
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,080
full swing of like a mental 
episode, you're probably like 

482
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,640
quite biochemically not able to 
be normal. 

483
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,480
So yeah, it's tricky. 
But then kind of you can't 

484
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,640
styles as well. 
It's interesting. 

485
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960
That's what I was gonna say 
because I feel like, you know, 

486
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,440
see, if you like start dating 
someone and like you don't hear 

487
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,440
from them for like a day and 
then that person like, Oh no, 

488
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,960
like I'm just an avoidant 
attachment. 

489
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320
Like maybe you just don't 
actually want to talk to me. 

490
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,920
Just like you know. 
Yeah, I don't know how much I 

491
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,240
buy into them. 
No, I don't. 

492
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Yeah. 
And I feel like they're really 

493
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,480
overly used now. 
You said one to me a few months 

494
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760
ago and it was like. 
There's a new one it. 

495
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600
Was like, obviously it's anxious
to avoid, but it is. 

496
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,840
It was always like a combo of 
the both. 

497
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,240
Fearful Avoidant. 
Ah, that was it. 

498
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,640
And I was like, what the hell is
that? 

499
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,200
OK, right. 
So we put it down as an 

500
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240
attachment style. 
I suppose maybe we're just 

501
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,440
talking about like the 
terminology. 

502
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,400
I do believe that people can be 
like this within relationships, 

503
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,320
but it's up to them to, to fix 
it and to become secure. 

504
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320
It's not just an excuse. 
It's not like, oh, and I'm a 

505
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,440
fearful avoidant. 
So sorry. 

506
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,720
It's like I, I recognize I'm 
being quite fearfully avoidant 

507
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
because this has made me quite 
anxious and it's making me 

508
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,040
withdraw and kind of naming it. 
However, this is something that 

509
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,320
I need to work on because it's 
it always stems from an 

510
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,760
insecurity, same as anxious 
attached. 

511
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520
However, some people can. 
I said this to Leandro on the 

512
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,120
podcast. 
Some people can make you fucking

513
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,360
anxious in a relationship. 
Am I anxiously attached or have 

514
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,240
you just given me panic attacks 
like every day because of the 

515
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,760
way that you're behaving? 
You're just in a very anxious 

516
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,640
dynamic, yes. 
And I think maybe that's how we 

517
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600
discuss it is a dynamic rather 
than an attachment. 

518
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840
What's our dynamic like? 
And absolutely like trying to 

519
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,160
get to the point of being 
securely attached as well. 

520
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,000
Yeah, not using it as an excuse.
Then if it's a dynamic, you 

521
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400
could work together to both 
become secure. 

522
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400
How about that? 
One for the ball. 

523
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560
You ready? 
For this. 

524
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,400
I'm so ready. 
See, this is what happens when 

525
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,240
people don't share outs 
beforehand. 

526
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,680
It's still a little related to 
gayness. 

527
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,240
Oh no, it doesn't have to be. 
It can just be a general out OK.

528
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Might even angry I'm going to 
say it out 2026 lime bikes. 

529
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,400
Whoa. 
No, I'm letting the silence 

530
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,640
sweep for itself. 
No, I'm. 

531
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,480
OK, give me a rationale behind 
this, board member. 

532
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,720
Not because I'm actually getting
quite upset about this already. 

533
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,400
Not kidding. 
Maybe. 

534
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,040
Stomach hurts now. 
Thanks, I'm. 

535
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,920
Going to preface it. 
Line bikes driven by people who 

536
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
can't ride. 
That's also very. 

537
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,960
Excellent cycling proficient. 
See you. 

538
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,360
I mean when I tell you I'm I'm 
actually really fucking good 

539
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:35,960
though. 
Like I'm really fast and really 

540
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,520
dodgy. 
How do you say dodgy? 

541
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Like have you not seen my new 
stabbing skills with the fruit? 

542
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,560
How do you combine the? 
Fruit Ninja I've been doing 

543
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,480
because Fruit Ninja hold on 
really quickly that that is the 

544
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,960
equivalent of my reflex skills 
and skill on the bike. 

545
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760
So am I careful? 
No. 

546
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:03,120
But am I scrappy and resilient, 
fast and have a really high 

547
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640
standard of reflex to the point 
where even the guy the other day

548
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,880
went whoa, GTA? 
Do you wear a helmet? 

549
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,400
You've. 
I've seen you crash. 

550
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760
I can't I'm I can't say anything
but my line bike skills because 

551
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,560
I. 
Didn't have that bruise the size

552
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680
of like that small child. 
Sober me on a line bike, I'm 

553
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,440
good as gold. 
Drunk me? 

554
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,000
Terrible idea. 
Do not encourage anyone to get a

555
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
line bike drunk because I've 
made many a mistake. 

556
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760
However, I've definitely seen 
you crash into a car before. 

557
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760
Jesus. 
You haven't seen me crash into a

558
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,280
car. 
I told you I crashed into a car,

559
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
OK? 
Exactly. 

560
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040
They're dangerous. 
They're they're very dangerous. 

561
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,480
They're very loud. 
They're very people just drop. 

562
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,640
Them. 
But how are they loud? 

563
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,440
I hear the. 
Yeah, that's when people are 

564
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,320
stealing. 
They will. 

565
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,360
They will. 
They're gonna be good. 

566
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,480
They're just gonna steal. 
Yes. 

567
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,640
OK, I'm not. 
OK, what else do we not like 

568
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,000
about it? 
Because I think that it's become

569
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,240
the most efficient way to get 
through London. 

570
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,560
At what cost? 
What cost my life? 

571
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000
I don't actually care. 
I hate the Tube. 

572
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,920
I hate it. 
You like to? 

573
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,440
Walk. 
You're a Walker. 

574
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Yeah, I've been darling, that 
strong. 

575
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
I'm always so late. 
There is no way I'm walking 

576
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,920
anywhere. 
Like I have to get on the bike 

577
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,840
with immediate effect. 
You know, the other day I had to

578
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,040
go to Oxford, I had 7 minutes to
get from my place in Notting 

579
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,640
Hill to Paddington and get the 
train. 

580
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,960
OK. 
And you did that. 

581
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,880
Yeah, had to go over unlock the 
bike, which also took me ages 

582
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520
because my phone wasn't working 
and not the bike. 

583
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760
Cycled like an absolute lunatic 
with all these presents for this

584
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,160
baby shower. 
Cycled into the train station, 

585
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,440
quite physically into the train 
station. 

586
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,120
Train was right there. 
Kicked the bike stand. 

587
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,640
On I went. 
I feel like you're just adding 

588
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,400
to my rationale. 
This sounds horrible. 

589
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,480
Do you mean you cycled into 
Paddington station? 

590
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,880
I would say cycle. 
In. 

591
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,640
What? 
Just leave them in the station. 

592
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,360
No, I think you can go like down
the slope, you can like fully go

593
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,640
inside a little bit. 
I see. 

594
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,720
I love a line bike, I think 
they're so convenient. 

595
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040
They're dangerous. 
I'm gonna be the mum of the 

596
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,640
group. 
I know they're scary. 

597
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,600
They are dangerous people got 
you can get from A to B so. 

598
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,720
Quick at the cost of your life. 
People get hurt in taxis, people

599
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,920
get hurt in tubes, people get 
hurt in buses just because you 

600
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,360
love the bus? 
Wow wow Joe, I'm cancelling 

601
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,680
buses outside. 
Fuck you nuts. 

602
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,800
Just. 
For the bus, can you ride a 

603
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,360
bike? 
Oh God, the truth comes out. 

604
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,920
Jealousy just complete. 
You just see me staring at 

605
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,520
everyone riding a bike. 
You know what, Liv? 

606
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,000
I can actually ride a bike. 
I'm just have. 

607
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
I'm a hypochondriac. 
OK, I get that you're 

608
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,120
hypochondriac. 
So my sweetheart, that's why I 

609
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,880
don't want to go on the tube 
because I don't want to get the 

610
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
illnesses that just kind of 
linger around with 0 

611
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,240
ventilation. 
We have just a pussy, OK? 

612
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,760
I think maybe I'm without you 
being a pussy out you being a 

613
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,440
pussy. 
I'm upset by this maybe. 

614
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,280
My in is just helmets. 
Have you? 

615
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Helmets and knee pass safety 
fuzz. 

616
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,240
Yeah, well, how about? 
I'm never getting invited back. 

617
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,040
Sorry, but I had to. 
I had to argue this point. 

618
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Yeah, if you'd if you'd have 
taken this to the board, you 

619
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,280
would have been. 
Kicked out. 

620
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080
I can literally feel. 
You're actually lucky. 

621
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Amy and Kathy just. 
Yeah, I just decided to Amy and 

622
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Kathy. 
I mean, I think they are 

623
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,720
profession cyclists. 
OK. 

624
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,320
Have you ever cycled a line 
bike? 

625
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Yes. 
So you've no, you have. 

626
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,680
OK, you haven't. 
A bike in the park. 

627
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,280
No, I'm sorry. 
OK. 

628
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Santander bikes suck. 
They're like, they're like 

629
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,240
cycling a brick. 
OK, they're. 

630
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Control the speed. 
No. 

631
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,640
So with the line bike, it's fast
and furious. 

632
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
It's giving in your hair, breeze
on the face, a little bit of 

633
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120
spit of rain. 
Like really, I think it is a 

634
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520
beautiful way to get around 
because of the speed of it. 

635
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160
I think, I think I've unlocked 
the issue because, you know, I 

636
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
can't drive. 
You can't drive, I can't drive. 

637
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,960
Oh wow, she's a bisexual who 
can't drive y'all? 

638
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,000
Join the queue. 
Join the queue. 

639
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,840
What about a Lime scooter? 
Absolutely not. 

640
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Oh no, that's why. 
OK, OK, if you'd have said Lime 

641
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,160
scooter I would have been like 
but also OK, fair. 

642
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,240
But Lime bike? 
Don't you dare. 

643
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880
I hear you the. 
Board you know what insurance 

644
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,840
for 2026? 
Not on a Lime bike. 

645
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,600
I'll take you through Hyde 
Parks. 

646
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,880
It's nice and safe and we'll put
a helmet on you and see what 

647
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,760
happens. 
Again, this. 

648
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Is a really great imagery. 
Maybe. 

649
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,640
Maybe. 
Except it's still out. 

650
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,000
Yeah, hard no, but. 
Yeah, OK, there's another out 

651
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,600
for me. 
Oh, God. 

652
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,760
OK, out, out being audacious and
ugly. 

653
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,600
Pick a struggle and pick a lane.
We discussed this the other day,

654
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320
didn't we? 
You just can't have both. 

655
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,120
You cannot be audacious, 
egotistical, think that you rule

656
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280
the world and be ugly. 
All of those things that I just 

657
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680
stated First off was already 
atrocious. 

658
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,360
OK, You add ugly on top of that.
What, what world do you think 

659
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520
you exist in? 
And can I just say this is all 

660
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,960
these ugly fucking men that come
up or they're in my comments or 

661
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160
they're in my DMS being like you
need a man or they shout from 

662
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,960
their cars or they do whatever 
do I? 

663
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720
The amount of men that I've had 
to berate on the streets and not

664
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,040
one of them was good looking. 
It's been interesting, isn't it?

665
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Like I'm really wondering what's
like happening in there. 

666
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,440
What's happening in the psyche? 
Yeah, It's just, I don't know, I

667
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,680
think they just have this. 
Maybe it's just pure dilution. 

668
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Is it? 
Dilutions or something? 

669
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Do you think that like what? 
What could it be? 

670
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,480
Is it a developmental issue? 
Is it because are they being 

671
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800
audacious because they're ugly? 
They're overcompensating? 

672
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240
I don't know. 
I mean that that probably does 

673
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,960
have a part to play with it, but
they also like fuck around girls

674
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,280
as well. 
Like I was talking to someone 

675
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720
the other day and she's being 
fucked around by a guy who's 

676
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800
ugly, has a small penis, and is 
audacious. 

677
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320
The only trifecta I'm impressed 
at this. 

678
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Point literally the delusion is 
like off the rig. 

679
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Because this is real life. 
I thought you just meant online 

680
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,680
because I think some of them 
just pretend they don't almost 

681
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,480
exist. 
No. 

682
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680
And this girl is beautiful. 
And he was having sex with her 

683
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160
and he was just like, yeah, this
is over. 

684
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,920
And she went, what's over? 
Like, it's been like nothing. 

685
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,840
What? 
What relationship do you think 

686
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,360
that we're in? 
Oh, yeah. 

687
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Absolutely fucked up. 
To be honest. 

688
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160
I think that this needs to end. 
It really, really needs to end. 

689
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,800
And I think we send them to 
camp. 

690
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,160
But how do we do it? 
I think maybe propaganda. 

691
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
I hate you. 
I love it. 

692
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240
I'm wondering if we're allowing 
them to get away with it. 

693
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Yes, there's no repercussions. 
So what do we do? 

694
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,440
Because it's like the men who 
think they're amazing in bed 

695
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880
because all these women. 
Fake orgasms, yeah. 

696
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,480
And they don't. 
They don't. 

697
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
And because they know they're 
never going to sleep with them 

698
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,560
again, like they tried the milk.
They're not buying this cow. 

699
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,680
And the girls are only. 
Fake. 

700
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440
They are not going to do the 
work for the next girl. 

701
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,240
They're like, Oh no honey, like 
this is. 

702
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,000
They're only faking the orgasm 
so it ends. 

703
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Yeah, so then he thinks every 
time he thinks I'm amazing 

704
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
because the feedback is, you 
know. 

705
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,480
The feedback is yeah, So what? 
Maybe we just. 

706
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880
I mean, the girls have to stop. 
This is. 

707
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,880
For the bisexuals, you know what
the bisexuals and the straight 

708
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560
girls listening we've. 
Kind of we've got to end this. 

709
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Come together, quite literally. 
Stop. 

710
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Stop pleading, stop. 
I'm pleading on my knees, please

711
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,280
stop faking orgasms. 
Please, please, I beg you. 

712
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,520
You are only creative. 
Just honestly, what's like the 

713
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,360
alternative? 
Just go. 

714
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Just silence. 
Stare at them. 

715
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Just just lie there and just 
look at them like confused look 

716
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,120
on your face, Yeah. 
Oh, I like the confused look. 

717
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Look at your phone. 
Go on your phone. 

718
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,960
Start listening to this podcast.
Start Put. 

719
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,320
This podcast on, I'll give you 
the time stamp in the 

720
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,520
description so that you can just
click straight to it when you 

721
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920
need it maybe. 
That's how they start I'm. 

722
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Gonna go click this time stamp. 
I'll put it in the description. 

723
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,960
Hey, Yeah, the sex is actually 
really shit mate. 

724
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,520
You. 
I think that you should stop and

725
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,400
I think you should pack your 
bags. 

726
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,680
I think you should go home and 
if you're not, if you're at 

727
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,800
home, buy her an Uber home. 
Okay, thank you. 

728
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,000
That's beautiful. 
I think that's the way. 

729
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920
That and propaganda, yeah. 
Absolutely. 

730
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Exactly. 
Yeah, but I'm also thinking 

731
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,600
posters. 
Okay, expand. 

732
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Yeah, posters where it's like 
ugly man be like ego. 

733
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,639
No, this is on the tube. 
This is this is for you on the 

734
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:09,960
bus. 
It's going like. 

735
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,280
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 
This is. 

736
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,400
Going to be crazy project. 
There's there's a sign of an 

737
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,920
ugly man on the poster goes ego 
question mark. 

738
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Letting down women all the time 
Question mark. 

739
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,679
Think that you're better than 
ever on question mark. 

740
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,400
Have you ever thought of 
shutting the fuck up? 

741
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,239
But but because these men think 
they're better than everyone, 

742
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,280
they probably don't think that 
those posters relate to them. 

743
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,719
True, they'll be. 
Like. 

744
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,000
They'll be like God what's 
funny, and it's them. 

745
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,199
What's funnier is we just put a 
mirror there on the mag, so it's

746
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,840
just like a that's good. 
And then they just have to look 

747
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,360
at that ugly fucking face. 
Yes, just go look at yourself. 

748
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,159
Not even a mother could love 
that face. 

749
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,880
The end. 
That really. 

750
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,480
I don't care. 
They suck. 

751
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,760
It's just nasty, man. 
I don't like them. 

752
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440
OK, you got another hour and 
then you got your outs. 

753
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,720
Well, yeah, I had an out and 
I've just thought of another 

754
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,160
one, which because my other out 
was a bit like, I feel like it 

755
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,120
was quite personal to myself. 
And I just thought, you know 

756
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,920
what? 
Maybe not. 

757
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,560
Oh. 
I quite like a personal one. 

758
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,760
Well, can I do them both? 
Yeah. 

759
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,120
OK, so one out is over analysing
every text message because I 

760
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,400
fear I do that a lot and it's to
my own detriment and for no good

761
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,280
reason. 
And I feel like I can't be, I 

762
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680
can't be the only one. 
I just think it's silly because 

763
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,640
you wind yourself up so much and
then the person might reply and 

764
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,440
you're like, oh, right, OK. 
And this goes between like 

765
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,480
friendships, like relationships,
like parents, whatever. 

766
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Joe it's really funny. 
Imagine if WhatsApp had like a 

767
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,160
playlist like how you have with 
Spotify and it tells you how 

768
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,440
many times you read this 
message. 

769
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,960
That'd be brutal. 
So this is my problem, but 

770
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:47,960
you're. 
Wrapped. 

771
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Oh yeah, because I reread 
messages a lot. 

772
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,400
A lot like. 
Before you send them out 

773
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,760
afterwards. 
No, after like I can read, I can

774
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,240
go back on entire conversation. 
I I simply need, I need to. 

775
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,240
Stop rule #1. 
But even when the. 

776
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:01,760
Delete messages? 
Wait, no, But not even. 

777
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,680
When, like the conversation's 
bad, yeah, I'm just like, what 

778
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,760
am I? 
Then I get to the end. 

779
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,160
I'm like what's wrong with me? 
You. 

780
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,440
You can't. 
Great advice. 

781
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,960
I stopped doing that. 
Yeah. 

782
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,240
Yeah, but I think as I think so 
many people do it and we're if 

783
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,560
you're an overthinker. 
Or that's the problem. 

784
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,320
I'm a massive overthinker. 
So like, and I think texts could

785
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,520
be obviously misconstrued all 
the time and it's just so yeah, 

786
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,840
send voice notes going forward. 
But then you do the re listen. 

787
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,000
I will out myself as a voice 
note re listener. 

788
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,720
I re listen to yourself. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. 

789
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,320
Do you not? 
And then you hear it back and 

790
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,440
you're like. 
No, I actually don't. 

791
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,800
And this is ironic coming from 
somebody with a podcast. 

792
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,320
I don't. 
I don't really listen no because

793
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,720
I I kind of cringe myself out 
but I definitely do reread 

794
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,760
stuff. 
I wouldn't say too much, but if 

795
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,960
there's an argument that has 
happened, best believe I'm 

796
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,360
reading back through that shit 
and I'm also discussing it with 

797
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000
like 20 other people. 
Like multiple times, not just 

798
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,240
the one time. 
With them, yeah, that is, that 

799
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,960
is, I think it's good to discuss
with people, but I think maybe 

800
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,120
should we set timers of like how
like you can only reread it for 

801
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,360
like once or something for like 
10 seconds? 

802
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480
That's a good idea. 
Again, and that's it. 

803
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,440
Because you can, you can 
convince yourself of anything. 

804
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Like you can send normal texts 
and be like wow I'm a 

805
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200
psychopath. 
You just can't do it. 

806
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,800
I think it was also good as 
well. 

807
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,440
I, I know that so many people 
are like, I hate AI and it's 

808
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,480
always going to tell you what 
you wanted to hear and I 

809
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,600
understand that. 
I get it. 

810
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,160
However, there have been some 
instances where I've like 

811
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:38,480
screenshot things or like 
downloaded it, sent it into chat

812
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,760
2 BT. 
I say completely unbiased, don't

813
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,160
even name do that subject A, 
subject B and describe the 

814
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,840
dynamic that's going on here. 
I don't want chat 2 BT to like 

815
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480
validate me. 
It's more like understanding the

816
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,080
dynamic so that I kind of stop 
overthinking it. 

817
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,920
It's like, OK, that's like a 
very non biased view and 

818
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440
obviously take everything with a
pinch of salt, but it does just 

819
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
help to kind of like calm the 
brain a little bit. 

820
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,000
I just don't know if that would 
make me feel worse. 

821
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,680
I don't know if I'd go into like
a bigger one. 

822
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,920
Help do you reckon maybe? 
On set by sponsored. 

823
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,920
Today's episode, OK, next time I
go to reread a message, I'll 

824
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480
screenshot it, I'll put it into 
ChatGPT and then I'll put it 

825
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,440
forward to the board on how I'm 
feeling and I'll let you guys. 

826
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Here's Here's the catch though I
go. 

827
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,640
On OK. 
Because I agree, I think that's 

828
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,760
such a great use of AI because 
it's like impartial to some 

829
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,320
extent. 
It's data-driven and it just 

830
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,960
gives you like a third party 
Peace of Mind if you don't want 

831
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,240
to like bug your friends. 
Even though I don't think it's 

832
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,680
bugging, but I feel like it 
could be a slippery slope where 

833
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,920
you're like, OK, well, I like 
that. 

834
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,960
Analyse this. 
Analyse this exactly. 

835
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,280
That's what I would be worried 
about. 

836
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Like I don't think there's like 
a cap on it. 

837
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880
So I think it's a little like 
occasionally. 

838
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,560
If it's not. 
Great. 

839
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Especially if you're hard on 
yourself and I think you've got 

840
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,240
a narrative. 
It's like. 

841
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Well, caveat to that, tell 
chapter BT that you're a really 

842
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920
bad overthinker and you want to 
get better. 

843
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,760
And the the feedback that it 
gives you and the advice that it

844
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,400
will give you to move forward 
will be quite good as well, 

845
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,960
because I've also done that. 
I know what I'm doing this 

846
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,120
evening. 
After the pub, that is the 

847
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,640
answer, but in moderation, yeah.
Yeah, so it's, it's out, babe. 

848
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Just try and stop, try and 
refrain and maybe. 

849
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,400
Over analysing, overthinking 
out. 

850
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,000
And also the next time just 
maybe just say it just be like 

851
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,360
I'm, I'm wanting to look at this
message now. 

852
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Like say it to me, say it to 
whoever, be like I'm wanting to 

853
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
look at this message again. 
Yeah. 

854
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,360
Also saying things out loud as 
well is actually like a brain 

855
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,680
hack because it gets like your 
prefrontal cortex working, which

856
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,840
is like your reasoning. 
So when you say it, you're like 

857
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,240
oh this is absolutely normal. 
Or like think if a friend sent 

858
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:47,160
you that text you would be like 
that's fine. 

859
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,400
It's just sometimes we're so in 
our head and have this like bias

860
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
that we're like. 
It's Hard Out Here, but you 

861
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,760
know. 
So no overthinking, no line 

862
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,280
bikes. 
No thinking, no line bikes. 

863
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,880
I am out. 
OK. 

864
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,600
So I actually thought of this 
out just now. 

865
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,200
So it's a little it's a little 
it's a little fresh. 

866
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,000
So this out has just come to me 
now. 

867
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,120
I think lime bike took the took 
the main passion project of my 

868
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,480
mind, but I'm going to say out 
the bare minimum. 

869
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Oh. 
My God, I could not agree more. 

870
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,680
I was just discussing this the 
other day. 

871
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,240
Bare minimum or luxury maximum, 
right? 

872
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,840
And what we need to do, we need 
to do a whole other episode on 

873
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,960
this as well, which is we list 
out things and we, we say 

874
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560
whether we think that is the 
bare minimum or whether we think

875
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200
it's luxury maximum. 
Please can you define an example

876
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,840
as to like what your bare 
minimum would be like 10? 

877
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Yeah, my my favorite bare 
minimum is when people tell me, 

878
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,760
oh, their partner or someone 
they're seeing is nice to them. 

879
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320
I'm nice to everyone. 
I'm nice to the postman. 

880
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440
I am nice to a neighbor that 
makes too much. 

881
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,360
Noise. 
They're really nice. 

882
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,840
They're really nice to me. 
They're so, they're so nice. 

883
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Yeah, they're minimum. 
That's they the bare minimum. 

884
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
They shouldn't hate you. 
Yeah, we'd hope not. 

885
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Yeah. 
And also the alternative is like

886
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,120
then the me too question mark, 
like I'm not really, I'm not 

887
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,440
getting it. 
Nice is just as a very generic 

888
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,560
term. 
Yeah, that's nice to me. 

889
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,760
Yeah. 
And also one thing I think as as

890
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,160
a bisexual, sometimes a fun 
little game I like to play is if

891
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,000
a man were to do this, would you
be saying the same? 

892
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Oh, my God, I think the same 
thing. 

893
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,840
It's like if a man were to have 
done this, is that actually 

894
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,880
abuse? 
Probably, yeah. 

895
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Do you know what I mean? 
It's like, OK, that's not all 

896
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,360
right. 
And I get it, you know, I get 

897
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,840
it. 
We're very empathetic and we 

898
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,160
want to give people the benefit 
of the Dow. 

899
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,240
But if you put some scenarios 
and just change the little flip,

900
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:57,080
you know, maybe Fred to go to. 
Go was like Freddie, Freddie, 

901
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,320
Freddie. 
Was Freddie, you know, like is 

902
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,200
how would that come across like?
Probably pretty fucking bad. 

903
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680
It's a. 
Third party this I think. 

904
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,320
It's different, like they're so 
fucking nice to me. 

905
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Like I think that's different. 
It's like, God, they're like 

906
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,840
above and beyond, like so nice. 
But like they're, they're nice 

907
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,120
to me. 
They treat me well, like yeah, 

908
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,840
okay. 
They treat me with basic human 

909
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
kindness, decency, and that's 
like, that's just. 

910
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
I'm nice to the cashier at 
Tesco's. 

911
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:24,640
Are we fucking? 
Maybe. 

912
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,920
But like, you know, do you think
that she goes home and she's 

913
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,320
like customers nice. 
Yeah. 

914
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Actually, to be fair, I probably
could have done that when I 

915
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,280
worked. 
I know. 

916
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,000
And this is. 
Actually not to like, you know, 

917
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
talk badly on niceness, bring 
bring back niceness. 

918
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Maybe that's the end. 
But maybe because niceness is so

919
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,520
rare, can't. 
Be enough? 

920
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Maybe that's it. 
It just can't be enough. 

921
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,720
Have you seen the tik toks 
people doing that bare minimum 

922
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,640
or Princess treatment? 
It's wild. 

923
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040
So it's like it's insane. 
I'll show you later. 

924
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,720
Some of them do you deem is. 
Well, some of the like the 

925
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,400
things where it's like Princess 
treatment, I'm like, that's a 

926
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,800
bare minimum. 
I mean, I can't give you an 

927
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
example off top of my head. 
Right now they gave me head 

928
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,680
Princess treatment. 
They kissed me on the lips. 

929
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Princess treatment. 
Yeah, no, it's kind of fucking 

930
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,960
crazy. 
I feel like we need to raise the

931
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,760
bar a little bit. 
And I think it depends on what 

932
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,400
someone's able to offer as well,
right? 

933
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,600
I think that we can put it 
within the dependency. 

934
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Like if someone is like super 
wealthy, like, yeah, I'm 

935
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,480
expecting a jet. 
Like, are you kidding? 

936
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,400
Like I'm not expecting that from
like someone who doesn't. 

937
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,920
It's like, pick me up on a line 
bike. 

938
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,360
Nat Yeah, I'm actually still 
butt hurt about this. 

939
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,120
I'm really upset. 
This is what I thought before 

940
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,600
tarot readers on TikTok wait. 
Are we saying out for this? 

941
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Out. 
So out. 

942
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,480
I've been such a level of 
distraught that I've listened to

943
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,440
those of them like, well, that's
all about me. 

944
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
It's like, does this player say 
my star sign? 

945
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,040
I'm like, oh, I'm listening. 
They're like, here's your weekly

946
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,400
reading. 
And it's like, dude, I'm like, 

947
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,440
Oh my God, that's so dude, 
that's definitely going to 

948
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,560
happen. 
That makes sense. 

949
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,560
And I'm like, what again, what 
am I doing? 

950
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,520
I'm overthinking. 
Yeah, I've been in the pits of 

951
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,600
heartbreak and depression, and 
they're like, if you've seen 

952
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,240
this video, no hashtags, no 
catchers, this was not for you. 

953
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,320
They love you and they're coming
back. 

954
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,720
And I'm like, of course they 
are. 

955
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:11,240
But do you know what it is? 
I always find that Tara Reid, a 

956
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,520
TikTok, always finds me in my 
deepest darkest moments and I 

957
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,120
don't know how. 
I think it's linked to costar. 

958
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,760
Because I'll go through a phase 
of my TikTok algorithm, I'm 

959
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
having a laugh, I'm having a 
giggle, and then I'm feeling a 

960
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,080
little bit sad in myself. 
And then the deck of cards is 

961
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,680
there. 
I just think they need to be 

962
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,280
stopped. 
Do you know this is like this is

963
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
so ick worthy, but I'm going to 
have to say anyway. 

964
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,120
And I feel like that you're 
going to judge me for this when 

965
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,080
I was in my worst moments. 
Oh no, no, no, they kept feeding

966
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,600
them to me because they knew I 
was sad. 

967
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,440
So they have like the TikTok 
live tarot readers and they're 

968
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,920
like gift to the dancing hands. 
And I'm like fucking doing it. 

969
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,320
You gifted the. 
Take it. 

970
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Yeah, You gifted the dancing. 
It's quite a few occasions 

971
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,880
actually. 
It got a bit unwell. 

972
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,040
I wasn't well. 
I was not well. 

973
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,760
You know you're not mentally. 
Ill Yeah, well, they do. 

974
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,120
I think that's why it needs to 
be out because they're praying 

975
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,120
on vulnerable people and it's 
not cool. 

976
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,800
Maybe I should start one. 
Maybe in Catch Me Next Time I've

977
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
got a deck of tarot cards and 
I'm like, give me the dancing 

978
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,080
hands if you want to hear this. 
Cheryl, your husband's going to 

979
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,880
leave you, babe. 
I don't know what you want me to

980
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,760
say next. 
Yeah I'd be like ohh she's 

981
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,480
gifted the Galaxy. 
I'll give you 3 cards for this. 

982
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Ohh God remember it is scam 
artist. 

983
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,800
And it's so bad if you have OCD,
shout out to OCD. 

984
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,440
Oh my God, shout out to OCD I. 
Feel like a radio for all those 

985
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,880
OCD girlies driving home 
tonight? 

986
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,680
It's. 
Just you're one of them, and so 

987
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,160
am I. 
Really am like stuff like that 

988
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,080
not good, not good for the 
brain, not not fun to hear, not 

989
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600
really not really great. 
Like we'll, we'll be hearing it 

990
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,400
also on that kind of theme, 
those tick tocks that are like 

991
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,760
in your 30s. 
You will have a sign to do this.

992
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Like no, please, I don't want 
any more signs. 

993
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,280
I don't want. 
Any. 

994
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,440
Any like, you know, I think a 
positive little do follow your 

995
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,440
dreams or something is great, 
but anything that's like when 

996
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,160
you get that feeling, you know, 
it's like, no, I don't I. 

997
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,480
Don't actually I don't know 
because I've crippling OCD and 

998
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680
every feeling is really intense 
I need. 

999
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,880
My thoughts not to have power 
because. 

1000
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Then you can. 
Think really bad things. 

1001
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,280
Bad things can come true, but 
that's not how it works. 

1002
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,240
Yes, exactly. 
That's so true. 

1003
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,600
That is so true I think. 
TikTok trends that are not good 

1004
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,800
for the for the girls 
struggling. 

1005
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:38,320
For the psyche I do, I do think 
one nice thing to always think 

1006
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,600
is like everything kind of 
happening in the way that it's 

1007
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,280
supposed to. 
I think that that's a very good 

1008
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,320
thing to think when something 
like negative happens. 

1009
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,120
I would also say that's always 
worked out in that way for me in

1010
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,080
my life. 
True. 

1011
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440
You know, there's been things 
that been so fucking hurtful or 

1012
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,520
painful or whatever, and then 
I'm like, thank fuck that 

1013
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,280
happened. 
Because if it didn't, then XYZ 

1014
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,240
wouldn't have happened. 
So I do think that that's a nice

1015
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,720
way to think, Yeah. 
But not that if you get that 

1016
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,600
urge. 
Yeah, if you want to see that 

1017
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,880
urge just to jump in front of a 
train. 

1018
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600
This is the dangers of the 
Internet. 

1019
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,760
Yeah, I'm just coming on here 
being very like. 

1020
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,160
God, you're very safety hazard 
on here. 

1021
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,480
Like you know what? 
Maybe you need it. 

1022
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Maybe you are lesbian supper 
club HR photographer stroke HR 

1023
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Maybe. 
I think we need it to be fair 

1024
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000
happened this happened. 
That's a good one more out from 

1025
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
you. 
Wait, is it your out or is it my

1026
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,160
out I. 
Don't have another out doing it,

1027
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,440
are you? 
Doing it, yeah. 

1028
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,360
I mean, we don't. 
I love how we have like no ends.

1029
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Yeah, what's your You go first? 
Saying your free will and 

1030
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000
remembering that you have it. 
Or can you? 

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Expand on that. 
So I think expanding on on free 

1032
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,280
will, I think Fruit Stab was my 
first free will adventure of 

1033
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,120
this year. 
But that is that not just a 

1034
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,280
hobby. 
No, I think it's like, you know,

1035
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,120
when you feel like you want to 
do something, just fucking go 

1036
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,680
and do it. 
You actually remember It's, 

1037
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,160
well, it's basically it's just 
spontaneity. 

1038
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040
It's like knowing that you can 
do something, just do it. 

1039
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,360
So I know it sounds ridiculous, 
but it's like, well, I want to 

1040
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,240
learn how to stab fruit in the 
air, so I'm going to fucking do 

1041
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:05,760
it. 
Or did. 

1042
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,800
You see the little kid with the 
blankets online? 

1043
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,240
This. 
Is right. 

1044
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,720
Sorry, do we all. 
Have the same algorithm. 

1045
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,760
I'd like to clarify a few things
about that before we continue. 

1046
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,560
There was, I know there was a 
small child. 

1047
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,320
She was very Speaking of us, she
was very authoritative and she 

1048
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000
was opening the fridge and she 
had put her blankets in the 

1049
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
fridge and the caption was like 
I'm not using my free will 

1050
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,360
enough. 
Like the mum had said it and 

1051
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,080
she's. 
So true and. 

1052
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,600
Then just like takes them into 
the bed. 

1053
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,360
I imagine they live in a really 
hot place. 

1054
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,880
I was trying. 
To Well, yeah, you just suddenly

1055
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,320
realize, actually, I can do 
this. 

1056
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,080
It's like another example of 
this. 

1057
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,920
My cousin was like, it only just
dawned on me that I can put my 

1058
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,880
Nespresso machine next to my bed
instead of me having to get up, 

1059
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
but I'm getting ready to go to 
the the kitchen and make my 

1060
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,000
coffee. 
I can just lie in bed. 

1061
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,200
And excellent use of free will. 
It's like things like that. 

1062
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,960
Like making your life maybe more
fun or more easy, or like it's 

1063
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,080
may not be conventional, but 
just fucking do it anyway. 

1064
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,400
Yeah, that's really like Tom 
Hanks big energy. 

1065
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,240
And I really like. 
Yeah. 

1066
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,680
Like when you remember, you're 
like, Oh my God, yes, I'm an 

1067
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680
adult. 
I can have this for dinner or I 

1068
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,920
can have my coffee machine by my
bed. 

1069
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Yeah, No, this is. 
I support this. 

1070
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:12,840
Thank you very much. 
Yeah, free will. 

1071
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,480
Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, the free
will. 

1072
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,880
And I also think, obviously, as 
long as it's not really like 

1073
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,640
hurtful to somebody else, I 
don't know, just fucking go for 

1074
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,360
it. 
It's probably hurtful for me 

1075
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480
with the fruit stabbing, but I'm
going to keep going. 

1076
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,440
Nothing's going to stop me. 
It's also me as well. 

1077
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,480
I was like, I really love that 
Rosalia. 

1078
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,800
Rosalia has a hold on you. 
Chokehold real bad. 

1079
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,840
So I was like, I need to now 
learn this song. 

1080
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,600
So now I'm learning the song 
because it's free will. 

1081
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,200
I may as well. 
I went ice skating the other 

1082
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,400
day. 
Free will I can. 

1083
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:42,560
Do you like the poster child of 
free will? 

1084
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,360
This is. 
Brilliant. 

1085
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,280
I'm sold. 
Yeah, you're sold. 

1086
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Yeah, You buy what I'm selling 
then that's. 

1087
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,880
Yeah, I'm picking it up. 
Picking up what I'm putting 

1088
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,920
down. 
That's a great. 

1089
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,120
I just can't wait, no. 
No free will. 

1090
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,920
No, I'm just, I can't wait for 
the next time when you're 

1091
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,560
contemplating doing something, 
you're stressed. 

1092
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560
I'm going to, I'm going to look 
at you and say got your free 

1093
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,280
will and then see if you 
actually do it and then see if 

1094
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,880
you actually do it or not. 
Yeah, Jambay free will. 

1095
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, I would say you're 

1096
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,280
actually probably the person I 
know most that utilizes. 

1097
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:14,200
It's called ADHD. 
It's called mental disability. 

1098
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Harmonica. 
Free will. 

1099
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:17,840
Jembe. 
Free will. 

1100
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Gita Leili. 
Free will. 

1101
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,960
The Gita Leili. 
It's a it's a cross between a 

1102
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,560
guitar and a ukulele. 
Free will. 

1103
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:30,040
Shouting at men, free will. 
Pushing men on the floor. 

1104
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Free will. 
What are you going to do? 

1105
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Live with your free will today, 
tomorrow, 2026. 

1106
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,840
I'm going to put conversations I
read into ChatGPT. 

1107
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,920
Free will. 
Free will and I'm going to do 

1108
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,720
that. 
I think that's good. 

1109
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,720
I don't know if I if anything 
comes up and I'm thinking I'm 

1110
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:49,960
going to use my free will, I 
will let you know. 

1111
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,240
Not I think that you should 
exercise your free will and just

1112
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,160
throw shit at people online 
bikes. 

1113
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,240
Just Heckle that line, bikers. 
Maybe. 

1114
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Maybe that is what I'm going to 
do. 

1115
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,640
Yeah, I support that. 
Yeah, I literally have no ends. 

1116
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,400
No ends. 
I don't know. 

1117
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,720
I just don't really. 
Mean like it can be. 

1118
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
It can be a wishful in like. 
You don't think you'll actually 

1119
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,600
become popular in 2026, but you 
wish it will become popular. 

1120
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,760
I like that. 
Yeah, No, I just think, I just 

1121
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,480
think going back to what we said
before, I feel like what? 

1122
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Do you think is coming back? 
Well, I'd like niceness to come 

1123
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960
back, to be honest. 
I feel like people aren't nice 

1124
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
anymore. 
Yeah, not all the time, but 

1125
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,640
we're all very harsh on 
ourselves and other people. 

1126
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,280
I think that's why 2016 is like 
becoming. 

1127
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,840
Back Yeah, I'm here for the 2016
resurgence. 

1128
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,800
Recession indicator Gays 
drinking milk that needs to go 

1129
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,400
out. 
Oh my God, the way that I 

1130
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
literally had milk. 
You had milk. 

1131
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,680
I actually chose to not say it 
because I've got a better one, 

1132
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,200
but one of my in is the cow. 
Bring back the cow with with a 

1133
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,400
little Asterix. 
Unless you're lactose intolerant

1134
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,520
because this is no dairy ableism
in this household, but very. 

1135
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,400
Much. 
That coined phrase by my friend 

1136
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Alice. 
Bring back the cow because the 

1137
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,400
girls are drinking milk. 
All right, big cow. 

1138
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,240
You know what? 
No, no, no. 

1139
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,040
Do you drink cow's milk? 
Yeah, I do. 

1140
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,760
And do you know what? 
I'm really smug about it as 

1141
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,320
well. 
When I go into the coffee shop, 

1142
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,800
I'm like, oh, just a just a 
normal coffee for me. 

1143
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,520
Like regular melt? 
Yeah, and I feel like this is a 

1144
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,520
normal coffee because I'm so 
fucking normal. 

1145
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Not like these are losers like 
having. 

1146
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,240
Not like other guys, guys, but 
I've been there. 

1147
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,800
I've been there. 
I've lived the Kelly bananas, 

1148
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,440
the things that I've been 
through. 

1149
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,080
I've drank the almond milk, the 
coconut, the soy, the oat. 

1150
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Half of those aren't good for 
you. 

1151
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,800
Half of those aren't great for 
the planet. 

1152
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,560
We're spiking our glucose. 
Oh, no, I'm sorry. 

1153
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,160
You can't use planet. 
All good for you against this, 

1154
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,200
OK? 
No, no. 

1155
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,880
They've died of cow pasta. 
Look why? 

1156
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,560
You know that, right? 
They dyed the count first. 

1157
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,840
Yeah, you. 
Know what though, when I was 

1158
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,320
home over Christmas and I was 
having my morning coffees, I 

1159
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,320
will admit because my mum has 
fucking soy milk and if you put 

1160
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,960
soy milk sometimes in the coffee
it curdles and it looks rang and

1161
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,760
then I saw some milk in the 
fridge that my niece was having.

1162
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,440
I thought, I'm going to put that
in my coffee and I will admit it

1163
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,680
was fucking delicious because it
was really good. 

1164
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Delicious dairy is I'm vanilla 
ice cream, salted butter like 

1165
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,880
just anything creamy. 
Yeah, you eat, you can't. 

1166
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Can you really say that about 
the milk when you eat certain 

1167
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
cheese? 
Practice you so you hurt it. 

1168
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,880
Hurt as an understatement. 
It's really. 

1169
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Yeah. 
It takes me and my soul. 

1170
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Yeah. 
I mean, I can't even get on 

1171
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,440
board with this conversation, 
honestly. 

1172
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,080
I blacked out. 
It's not the cow, it's the hell.

1173
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,920
OK, well that wasn't my. 
End. 

1174
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,720
OK. 
All right. 

1175
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:39,600
So I hope you know I changed, 
OK. 

1176
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,600
But I do also think it's a 
recession indicator. 2016 

1177
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,240
Actually, no, we weren't 
drinking milk in 2016 Oh yeah, I

1178
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,400
think I was still. 
No, I was listening to Major 

1179
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,920
Lazer and I think God, I found 
myself. 

1180
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,320
No, that one's 2013. 
I also will say I don't think 

1181
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,560
2016 was actually that good. 
I quite remember it being like a

1182
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,200
really dark time. 
Or was it not very good for? 

1183
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,560
You. 
No, not for me. 

1184
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,160
It was fine, but it was like 
Trump era. 

1185
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,320
Like it wasn't. 
It was just before Trump era and

1186
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,240
that's why everyone remembers it
as a happy year. 

1187
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,960
No, but I think no because I 
turned 20. 

1188
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,000
I'm just closing my age here My.
Dad turned 22. 

1189
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,360
And I was in America and I was 
like, I'm living the life. 

1190
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,240
I'm in California. 
I'm 21, and people were not 

1191
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,200
happy. 
And it was like, very much like 

1192
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,360
Trump was. 
Running Do you know what? 

1193
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,960
I don't think anyone's ever 
happy. 

1194
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,240
I think that what what is really
dangerous is nostalgia. 

1195
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,640
We have this like view on things
because the anxiety is no longer

1196
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,920
there because it's already 
happened. 

1197
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,720
So you look back on memories or 
years with the great fondness 

1198
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,960
because you remember the happy 
things and you don't have the 

1199
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,080
anxiety attached to it. 
So every year could sit, but 

1200
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,880
apart from the past couple for 
me, I'm not going to and 2004 

1201
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,120
terrible year for me, all of 
these years just bad. 

1202
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,440
No, just bad years, right. 
And but in general, you wouldn't

1203
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,920
really be able to like, pinpoint
a year, you know? 

1204
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,520
But you'd be like, Oh yeah, like
you listen to those songs and 

1205
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,040
you're like, that was good. 
Nostalgia. 

1206
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,520
And it's like very profound 
actually, because there's this 

1207
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,480
quote that I'm going to say is 
Tolstoy, but it's probably 

1208
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Pinterest and I'm just 
regurgitating it and it's 

1209
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,800
probably wrong, but work with me
here. 

1210
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Hold on, So it's like, don't 
worry if you're having a shit 

1211
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840
time because in the future 
you'll look back and think it 

1212
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,280
was great. 
Like in nostalgia. 

1213
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,600
I mean, I don't think that was 
quite Leo. 

1214
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
That's true. 
Nostalgia will cloud it and it 

1215
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,440
will make it seem like it wasn't
that tough. 

1216
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,920
Like I promise you the 2036 kids
will be like, Oh my God, like 

1217
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,280
let's make this like 2026 and 
they will romanticize it. 

1218
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Because I was like, hold on, 
How? 

1219
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,240
How are we? 
How are we loving 2016 that 

1220
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:38,320
much? 
I'm all here for like the 

1221
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,600
bangers. 
Don't get me wrong. 

1222
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,640
I am playing them but also I'm 
like don't want to be the bearer

1223
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,320
of bad news, but was it really? 
Yeah, I just looked on my camera

1224
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,320
to see where I was in my life at
2016, and it was the year I 

1225
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,040
turned 18 and I was in sixth 
form. 

1226
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,880
I remember being like quite 
happy and just like bit more 

1227
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,560
carefree, but that's because I 
was younger and like didn't have

1228
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,760
any responsibilities. 
And maybe the world was a little

1229
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,360
bit a little. 
Bit chill yeah, but don't doubt 

1230
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,160
I probably had hard times. 
My God, you look like you have 

1231
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,560
jaundice. 
What is that? 

1232
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,800
It's a good. 
Lord, no. 

1233
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,480
You know what that is? 
That's Rio de Janeiro. 

1234
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,600
That is the filter. 
Maybe we was another one. 

1235
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,360
Yeah, well, I was, yeah. 
I was working in shop, so I 

1236
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,680
clearly was quite happy about 
it. 2016, maybe we went more. 

1237
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,880
I can relate to a year based on 
the songs that were in that 

1238
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,080
year. 
I'll know whether it was a good 

1239
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,800
year or not. 
There's certain years where 

1240
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,240
Rihanna was really big, bad 
years. 2009 it was a pinnacle 

1241
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,920
moment in music. 
I will say it was when Rihanna, 

1242
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,920
Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and 
Beyoncé were all at their peak. 

1243
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000
I will say no, no, no. 
I will die on this hill because 

1244
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,120
I've said it for ages. 
I'll play the songs at the. 

1245
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Park was that rude boy and like.
Yeah, yeah. 

1246
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,320
California girls telephone was 
all kicking off I think. 

1247
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Oh yeah. 
Who's the producer that we love?

1248
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,840
You know, like if he's on it. 
Timberland, Tim. 

1249
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,360
Timberland and Dart child. 
Who's dark child? 

1250
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,160
Well, if you if you know his 
like signature stuff, you'll 

1251
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,320
then hear all of the singers 
going dart child at the 

1252
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,680
beginning. 
So like Simon name Simon that's 

1253
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520
not child. 
Oh the tags at the start yeah. 

1254
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,840
But Timberland is always the OG.
So good. 

1255
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Bring him back in Timberland. 
Absolutely. 

1256
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Do you say what's that? 
Was your in right niceness? 

1257
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,600
Just being nice. 
One more in, one more in. 

1258
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Well, it's not the cow, girl. 
It's not the cow wholesome in 

1259
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,840
actually I'll say community. 
It's lovely. 

1260
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Yeah. 
Do you know what? 

1261
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,400
Just the casual hang. 
Bring back the casual hang. 

1262
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Just like actually talking to 
people in your neighborhood. 

1263
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Like knowing person that works 
in the shops around you, talking

1264
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,400
to people, hanging out with 
friends, casually doing errands 

1265
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,920
together. 
Oh, my God, Which is what you've

1266
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,440
been so good at doing with me 
recently. 

1267
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,840
Lives been my, like, always been
my errand goer. 

1268
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Nat has been another recruit for
my errands, which I have to say,

1269
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,240
I thoroughly enjoyed. 
Yeah, it was you just coming 

1270
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,160
along for the ride. 
Yeah. 

1271
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Did anyone else in that please 
enjoy us? 

1272
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,000
Probably not. 
Probably not, no. 

1273
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,720
Yeah, just the casual hanging 
friends. 

1274
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,040
I think you are actually very 
good at that. 

1275
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,600
I've noticed that like you're on
the day you'll just be like, 

1276
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,080
hey, want to hang out? 
And it feels like a knock on the

1277
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,520
door of my childhood. 
Home, Oh my God, bring back 

1278
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,480
knocking on the door of people. 
I mean shorter you do a little 

1279
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,880
knock knock. 
No, not not. 

1280
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,000
And also just like, how can we 
identify who's at each other's 

1281
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,080
houses, you know, and used to 
leave your bikes outside? 

1282
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,680
Exactly. 
I guess it's find my friends. 

1283
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,400
Find my friends. 
Literally. 

1284
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,160
I love looking at my Sims and 
find my friends. 

1285
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,560
Yeah. 
Friendship. 

1286
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,560
Yeah, but also community. 
It's like being around people 

1287
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,240
who genuinely get you and 
understand you and don't 

1288
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,360
hideaway. 
And this goes to the girls that 

1289
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,840
will always message me, like is 
it OK to come alone to the 

1290
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,840
events, blah blah blah. 
Absolutely. 

1291
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,400
Because that's the main thing, 
right? 

1292
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,440
It's like if you've already got 
your community, I mean, I still 

1293
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,520
want you to come, but the point 
is, is actually building that 

1294
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,960
and building those friendships 
and relationships and whatever. 

1295
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,480
Might come your way as well. 
Like I literally just hang out 

1296
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,040
with my friend. 
I'm like wow I feel so good I 

1297
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,080
can't believe not staring at my 
screen and working multi 

1298
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,080
solitude. 
Yeah, I think that we're we're 

1299
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,480
mistaken. 
Closeness with texts and 

1300
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Instagram shares and Tik Toks 
that we can watch with our 

1301
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,760
friends, like that's not 
closeness. 

1302
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,960
Like speaking to somebody like 
that isn't hug someone today. 

1303
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,000
If you don't have a friend just 
hug a stranger. 

1304
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,480
Fuck it up, free will. 
It all comes back, baby it all. 

1305
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,280
Comes back on that note, my free
will is saying pub. 

1306
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,400
And my sense of community is 
saying yes. 

1307
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,840
And my sense of lactose 
intolerance is saying no milk. 

1308
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Not line biking though. 
My sense of niceness is saying 

1309
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,480
yes to the pub. 
She goes, alright guys, 

1310
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640
lesbians, I love you so much and
I'll speak to you next week. 

1311
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,560
Bye.
