1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,960 Hi everyone, and welcome to episode 6 of the Lesbian Supper 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Club podcast. I feel like we're going to have 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,280 to stop saying the numbers soon because. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,280 I know, but do you know what's really weird actually that you 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,880 would say that is that I was randomly looking at other 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,640 podcasts earlier and a lot of people number their podcasts. 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Yes. And we don't number the titles, 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,960 that's why I feel like I have to number the intro. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,120 I feel like we give everyone quite a warm welcome on ours. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,280 I feel like whenever I listen to a podcast I don't even hear 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,440 welcome. Yeah, it's because we don't have 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,880 any sponsors yet for attacks. That's why I'm the sponsor. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,160 We're having myself personable. Please love me. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,200 Give me some cash please. I'm on my knees. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Welcome back everyone, we hope that you loved episode 5 as much 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,720 as we did because honestly, Lewis had me absolutely creased. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,680 I was kissing myself like. That that episode when we had to 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,000 go through and send the edit notes over to Marcelo, like we 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,560 were actually crying like at some points because there's just 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,880 something about him that is so fucking funny as well. 21 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:14,000 And I also think it's got to a point now. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Oh God, the dogs just stole the limp roller. 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,800 He's like, don't you dare raise any memory of me. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Go, sit, go, go, sit down, please. 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Because we're not having it. We're not right. 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,680 Up and lie down. Lie down. 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,280 Good boy. The Invisalign is up. 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,720 What did I say? I actually can't remember. 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,840 No, we were talking. Yeah, we're talking about Lewis. 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Lewis. And it's got to a point now 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,440 where, you know, we. Say it again. 32 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,560 Oh, sorry, it's got to a point now where we edit, you know, we, 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,200 we help edit these, these podcasts and I get so bored of 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,480 the sound of my own voice and yours actually. 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,000 And it's nice to have someone else just just voice coming in, 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,240 you know? Yeah, and and also we we kind of 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,720 had to keep in a lot of the mistakes that we made just 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,440 purely because he made them so much funnier. 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Just the way that he talks is just like and just interprets 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,960 things as hilarious. So thanks again, Lois, because 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,560 we love you and we loved having you on and we can't wait for you 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,640 guys to see kind of what guests we've got lined up as well and 43 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:21,720 in store for the Lesbian Supper Club. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,680 So it's only up from here, baby. A couple of days ago we put out 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,680 a story on your Instagram to say that you guys should send in 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,840 some topics that you really want us to talk about and a massive 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,000 one that kept coming through was our coming out stories. 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,120 So we've listened and we're going to do today on episode 6, 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,440 our coming out stories. We've got a van of therapists 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,920 parked outside, particularly for Freya because Lord knows that 51 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,640 she's going to need it when? She's going to say I'm going to 52 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,720 have to relive this, which is yeah. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,680 And yeah, so today we're going to be mainly focused on a coming 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 out story. We're going to start off talking 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,360 about the L Word again, because what else do lesbians talk 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,080 about? And we're going to finish off 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,880 with, I know we say this every time. 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,520 But this is this is a pretty viral. 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,960 One, this is the worst Horror Story if you think piss in the 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 mouth was bad. Just you wait, baby. 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,760 This is this is actually took the medal and I didn't think 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,560 we'd. Be able to medal that no one 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,000 actually wants. No, I don't know. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Some people might. Want some people might want it 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,240 OK well I think we should start handing out medals of like the 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,280 most fucking disgusting lesbian supper club Horror Story the. 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,000 2nd. Idea one we should give. 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Lesbian medals If your story makes the Lesbian Supper club 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,600 podcast, you get the lesbian. It's a bit like a Blue Peter 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 badge, but just more disgraceful. 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Yes, yeah, that's such a good idea. 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,040 And I think it's like going back on the L Word thing because 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,320 there's been more development. So we listened and we love, by 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,040 the way, the pants pod. So shout out to the Pants 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,080 podcast by Alicia Haley. And Kate Menig is her last name, 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400 I think so Shane and Alice from The L Word. 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,520 And this podcast is amazing. And the way that they speak 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,320 about things is, is just really. The way they don't speak over 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,040 each other, that's. Beautiful. 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Yeah, I walked home and went. Babe, they don't talk over each 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,720 other and it's not my cars. No two people are the same. 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 No2 pussies are the same and no two people are the same. 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 If I all right, and if you want someone that's not going to talk 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,640 over to you, hinge, you've mentioned a few times how much 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,040 it's progressed since you were on there. 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,840 Off you fucking are. Looking a lot better these days? 87 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,240 No, honestly. Everyone thinks we're in a 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,800 polyamorous relationship, so they probably. 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,520 They do on there anyway, yeah. That's for another episode. 90 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 That's for another episode. We Oh. 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Shut up. We're actually in one with 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Marcelo. No, I think listening to that 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 podcast made me think, shit, I didn't realise the kind of back 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,480 story behind what happened with L Word Generation Q, So I didn't 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 know that. So Kate and Lisa, Shane and 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Alice were behind the development of bringing back the 97 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 L word with Jennifer Beals and Eileen Shaken. 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,560 So they were trying to release another L word. 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,040 They obviously could see that there was a massive gap in the 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 market for it and it needed to be done. 101 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:22,600 And like so they also loved their characters, which I 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,560 really, really love. And they wanted to bring that 103 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,880 back. And then I think it got taken 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,240 over and and turned into a way that they really didn't want or 105 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,960 like, which I could see just by watching it wasn't it was 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,160 nowhere near on the same level. I don't think Alison, Shane, 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Kate and Lisa were not happy with how the L word developed 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,080 because it didn't develop in the way that they thought it should 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,080 have done for a start, which I agree with. 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,440 I don't think that the characters developed quite in 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,080 the way that we would have all. I also think the whole way that 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,200 it was filmed was not reflective of the L Word at all. 113 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,680 So understandably, there were things that needed to evolve 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,160 from the first kind of, you know, L word, which we all agree 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 on. But what I loved about the 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,200 filming of the original L Word is that you did feel like you 117 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,640 were there, like it felt very raw. 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Whereas L Word generation Q, despite the characters, despite 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,880 the storylines, despite anything else, the way that it was 120 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,160 actually filmed felt very fake and toy like. 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,160 Yes, do you know what I mean? It had no like authenticity to 122 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,160 it. It felt very like almost like a 123 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,840 cartoony. I really hated the vibrant 124 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,400 colours. No queer lot are that fucking 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,080 happy. No, we're not. 126 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,040 Do you know what I mean? The. 127 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,720 LGBTQ flag should be pastel. What? 128 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Because we're not be like a pirate flag? 129 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Really. Yeah, because we're not that 130 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,720 fucking shiny, do you know what I mean? 131 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,280 No, we're not shiny and we're not happy. 132 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:58,600 All right. Generally genuinely laughed for 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,480 once in my whole life. No, no, no. 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,280 Don't laugh. I did. 135 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,160 I laughed at Jessie Carson. Yeah, you did. 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,320 I think that's the only time I've ever. 137 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,600 Yeah, actually, I want to say really quickly, if you guys 138 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,120 haven't heard of Jessica Carson by now, you need to check her 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,320 out. She is the funniest comedian. 140 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,680 I don't even say that loudly. She's a legend, the funniest 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,200 comedian I've ever seen in my life. 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,520 And when we went to go and see her live, I was in pain, but I 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,280 was also in awe, like watching her. 144 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,880 I was so just like, what's even the one inspired? 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Like I watched her and she did AQ and A at the end where she 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,800 was really like she had a lot of like humidity about her. 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Like not only is she hilarious and, and talks about things that 148 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,880 maybe like other people don't want to talk about, like her 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,360 grandparents having sex and reenacting the whole thing, 150 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,720 which I thoroughly enjoyed. Scarlett then and me were like, 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,080 OK, well, we want to go say hi to her afterwards because we 152 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,800 we've kind of shared a few comments online to one another 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,400 before and like we follow each other. 154 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,320 We follow each other. And I was like, I love her. 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,560 And now I'm a bit starstruck because she was so funny. 156 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,160 I don't know what to do with myself. 157 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,920 So we were then in the quietest room after everyone had kind of 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,320 said thank you and got in a photo with her. 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 And Scarlett said to me she was like, my asshole is wet, I've 160 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,400 been laughing so much, I said. This whilst we were laughing 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,840 like so whilst the show was taking place I looked up for I 162 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,160 was like I'm laughing so much I'm sweating from everywhere 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,440 including my asshole. Yes, OK, right. 164 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,400 But I. Don't ever give the correct 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,440 context. You're fucking weird. 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,919 Nobody needed to know that anyway, so I then was like, this 167 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,120 would be a really funny thing to say. 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,679 I'm just going to go up to her and I'm going to break it to her 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,000 anyway because the room was so quiet. 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 I go up to Jessie. I'm like, hey, yeah, that was 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,400 amazing. That was amazing. 172 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Her assholes wet. And then, oh, she said, and then 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,840 and then I just looked at her and then she looked at me. 174 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Jessie, to this day, I don't know if you actually heard what 175 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,960 I said or if you did hear what I said and you were mortified or 176 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,240 you didn't understand what I said and just kind of wanted to 177 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,800 move past it. But I just looked at looked at 178 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960 her with the most mortified look on my face. 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,040 And I was just and Charlotte was like, and I could I I can feel 180 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Scarlett's energy when Scarlett is like, you're a fucking. 181 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Idiot, I don't think it takes any energy feeling to think that 182 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,280 when you've gone up to someone you don't know and looked at 183 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,120 them after saying hello, pointed at me and gone her assholes wet. 184 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,640 You're not fucking spiritual for thinking I might have been 185 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,600 pissed off for that, you fucking idiot. 186 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,960 I literally in that moment was like I the last five years have 187 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,640 been a terrible mistake. I wish I was getting in the car 188 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,280 on my own. I literally, I, as soon as we 189 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,080 walked away, you know, and you're like, you think about 190 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,040 that moment and every day I've been thinking about that wet 191 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 asshole moment. It's been months. 192 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Sleepless sites. Yeah, I'm sorry, Jesse. 193 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,120 I do. Really. 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Love. I do think it was a bit of gay 195 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 panic. I panicked massively. 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,720 The gay panic came over me. I was hot. 197 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Just quickly back to the L word. Then I so they had basically 198 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,840 they were the ones that come together, put it all together. 199 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,800 It'd been, they said 10 years in the making, yeah, of really 200 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,440 getting the show back off the ground. 201 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,120 And then they had and they were one and also one of the last 202 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,960 people to be told that it was actually going to end, which I 203 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,000 think is. Disgraceful. 204 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 That's one. Disgusting that you just 205 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,200 shouldn't do that. Right. 206 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,560 I also mentioned that they there's a lot, there were a lot 207 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:25,520 of new people involved that didn't actually give a fuck 208 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,680 about the project. That was very clear. 209 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,360 Which makes me think that back in the early 2000s, right, No 210 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,600 one else would have touched this unless they were quit because 211 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,400 they wouldn't have wanted to have jeopardised their career, 212 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,040 you know, Whereas now people will jump on things if it is 213 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,200 quit because they think it elevates them in a lot of ways. 214 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:50,440 So there probably was a lot of CIS heterosexual people on that 215 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,000 set who had no fucking idea the lives in which they were trying 216 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,680 to portray, and that was obvious. 217 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:02,920 The L word has like helped me develop yeah like and and accept 218 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,000 my sexuality. L word generation Q would have 219 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 made me go back in the fucking. Closet but it just gave me 220 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,360 nothing either it. Wasn't good, It wasn't. 221 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Good. And there was, there's still a 222 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,360 lot I have to learn about this community. 223 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,880 You know, even speaking with Lewis a few days ago made it 224 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,520 really prevalent that there's still a lot of things that I 225 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 just haven't, you know, understood about the community 226 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:26,200 or or don't know enough about because I stay in my kind of 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:31,320 lesbian lane, so to speak. And for the diversity that the 228 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,400 ELWA Generation Q brought, it didn't, I mean, it did show me 229 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,320 things about different characters that maybe you don't 230 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,720 see as much on TV. I don't think it really dug deep 231 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,400 into a lot beyond the surface of just tick boxing. 232 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,080 That's. How I think it was just surface 233 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,400 level and yeah, I mean, it just wasn't for me. 234 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,120 I think like with the original Our Word, I loved the fact that 235 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Dana did that line, which is like, I don't want to be seen 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,560 with you like a dyke, like for me. 237 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Because those conversations do do. 238 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Happen and it's funny and it's just stupid and it's in like 239 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,720 little pass away things like that. 240 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120 But actually the deepest storylines within the original 241 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 our word really dug into the lives of lesbian women and what 242 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 that looks like and what the what toxicity looks like as 243 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,320 well. The positives and the negatives, 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,200 just everything about it. It didn't seem like they took 245 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,000 that blueprint. It just seemed like they took a 246 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,440 few of the older characters and kept the name and then that was 247 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,600 it. And also why didn't they use the 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,640 original theme tune? Because the hat theme tune, but 249 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,560 no. It would not leave my head then 250 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:37,760 for another decade. They need yeah, every lesbian 251 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,160 can recite that off my heart. Just to end the L word 252 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,080 generation QL word chat here, I'm sure we'll revisit it many 253 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:51,480 times going forward is I really want all of the so Jennifer, 254 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Leisha, Kate. Bring Kit back. 255 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 I don't care if you killed her off in Generation Q, just bring 256 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,360 her back. And Eileen to come together and 257 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,120 launch their own L Word again, forget L Word generation queue 258 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,320 even happened. Yeah, L Word coming back, 259 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,160 bringing new characters. Obviously update it in all the 260 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,920 ways that needs to be updated, but keep the basis of why the L 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Word was so successful. Very there. 262 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,040 I don't work with Cox, which I know is really hard in that 263 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,440 industry, but try not to. I will come there and put a 264 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,840 fucking producer's hat on. Do I know a thing about 265 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,200 production? No. 266 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Would I give that a good guy? Yes. 267 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,440 And yes to lesbians as well. And do it again. 268 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,120 And because we still don't know who fucking killed Jenny. 269 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,120 Yeah, they didn't even fucking do. 270 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,000 They didn't even give us that in Generation Q. 271 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Just pretend as if she never existed. 272 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,280 And she did exist. Yes, we all may have hated her, 273 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,720 but she very much existed. Yeah, very true. 274 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Well, I'll take you on that one, darling. 275 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,640 I think your blood pressure has gone. 276 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,200 High. I've wound myself right up and 277 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,800 now I've got to talk about coming out stories. 278 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,440 But yeah, let's go into coming out because. 279 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,760 That's gonna wind me up even more. 280 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,840 I know that so many people have asked about this. 281 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,800 I think that everyone's coming out stories is actually really 282 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,080 important because I think that it I think expressing that and 283 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,160 telling people about it is somewhat comforting, even if 284 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,440 you've had a bad experience. So because mine was not a good 285 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:24,360 experience at all. I was in the closet for 21 1/2 286 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,680 years of my life. I had already had a girlfriend 287 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,080 and was going out with her for two years before I came out and 288 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,120 we were in a long distance relationship, which is another 289 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,200 thing that I kind of want to talk about on another episode 290 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,640 because I know quite a few of you have talked about, you know, 291 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,120 how do you handle that? And I know that lesbians fucking 292 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,520 love to travel. So so I think that that's quite 293 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,720 like an interesting story. But that aside, my coming out, 294 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,920 the one thing that I'm going to mention and you'll understand 295 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,760 why is never let somebody force you to come out and never let 296 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,960 somebody come out for you. I think when I when I was in 297 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,320 this relationship and it was a very serious relationship with a 298 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,160 woman, I really, I felt petrified to come out to my 299 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,080 parents because I even though I actually have an older gay 300 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,920 sister, Megan, my mom was not okay with Megan's sexuality when 301 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,040 she came out at all. So knowing that bit of 302 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,000 information kind of made me very reluctant can. 303 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,520 I jump in there though and say that your mum did come to accept 304 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,320 her again and absolutely love her and love Whitney as well. 305 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,560 Megane wife. Yeah. 306 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,440 And all was good. All the storm had come. 307 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,200 This is something that is important. 308 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,080 I know that you very much remembered the difficulty that 309 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Megan had, yeah. But by this point, everything 310 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,480 was absolutely. Yeah, and she loves, you know, 311 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,280 my sister's wife and she's welcomed her into the home and 312 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,520 has been fantastic. But you know, when you just 313 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,400 know, you know, it's not going to go down. 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Well, she was always asking about boys. 315 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,120 She always seemed a little bit shady whenever I was like, 316 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 speaking about anything queer related. 317 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,160 So even when I said, oh, I, I mean, I remember I was 16. 318 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,200 I went to go see Jessie J for like a fiver and then I came 319 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,480 back and I was like, oh, I could marry her. 320 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,640 She literally looked at me and was like what the fuck? 321 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,240 So I knew, I knew in my in my gut that it was going to be bad. 322 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,600 But I had spoken to a few people about this because my sisters 323 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,120 knew that I was in this relationship. 324 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,560 I tried to keep it very, very quiet because I also just 325 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,240 because of this, I wasn't comfortable in my sexuality at 326 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,440 all. I was like, I'm only in love 327 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,880 with this one girl. There's no way I could be gay. 328 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,560 And I pushed it down so much because I was petrified as to 329 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,560 kind of like what that would look like for me in my life and 330 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,760 what that would look like for me in terms of my family. 331 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,200 And I remember, actually, I don't know if you guys will be 332 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,400 able to relate to this, but before I came out, I remember 333 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,640 every time that I would see my mom and she didn't know about, 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,560 you know, my sexuality. I was thinking, I'm going to 335 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,520 cherish this moment right now because she's being really 336 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,760 loving and she doesn't know about my sexuality. 337 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,200 And it made me feel so inherently guilty all the time. 338 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,599 So anyway, Long story short, I ended up travelling to Brazil 339 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 for a few months and I had an amazing time. 340 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,280 I came back. Let me tell you why it was 341 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,839 amazing. Brazil's fucking sick. 342 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Secondly, because I was able to be gay and openly gay over 343 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,400 there, which I just didn't categorically didn't do in the 344 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,840 UK, just in any fear of getting caught out. 345 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,560 So then I came home and I was depressed because obviously I 346 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,080 was away from Brazil and I was away from the girl that I was 347 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,920 going out with. And my mom actually saw me 348 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,800 crying because, you know, obviously I was in a terrible 349 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,440 way. And she was like, why are you 350 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,600 crying? Is it because you miss Brazil? 351 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280 I was like, yeah, yeah. I just really miss it, really 352 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,520 miss it. She's like, is it because you 353 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,480 miss Natalia? Sure, she won't care. 354 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,640 Is it because you miss Natalia? And I was like, yes. 355 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,320 And then she said, are you in love with her? 356 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,360 So she coerced me to come out. So by this point I thought, well 357 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,000 I can't actually now lie and. Everybody asking that question 358 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,560 in that way, it's quite like a nice way to ask it is, do you 359 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,840 know what I mean? It's quite like open. 360 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,840 And also, my sisters have said go on. 361 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,360 I think mom will be all right with it. 362 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,400 Just go for it. Just you've got to do it. 363 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,320 You can't keep lying to her. And I knew kind of in my head I 364 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,520 was like, oh, well, Dad was fine when Megan came out, so I'm not 365 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,360 really too worried about that. But I was like on my own with 366 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,840 her in her room. And I said yes. 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,640 And I started crying my eyes out and she was like, you're 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,560 disgusting. Sorry, I'm laughing, I mean. 369 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Because I find you disgusting for many rays, but not that one. 370 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Thank you very much, babe. I was in you're a cunt. 371 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,840 I was in a really, really bad way. 372 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,080 And I was like, what? I kind of, I knew that she was 373 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,880 gonna react badly, but actually the reality of them then acting 374 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,920 badly is like, you're joking me, right. 375 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,520 And she was like, you're sick, you're sick. 376 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,720 And I was like, okay. And I and I said as well though 377 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,640 she's like, are you gay then? And I was like, no, I've, I 378 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,000 mean, this is, this is stupid on my behalf, but I had to try and 379 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,680 claw back anything that I could. I was like, no, I'm straight, 380 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 but I'm just like in love with this one person. 381 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,120 I'm in love with her. And my mom was like, I can't 382 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,640 believe you. You know what? 383 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,800 My mum is like Jesus Christ. And she just really. 384 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720 How they make it out as if it's a choice, like you've told them 385 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,000 that you've just gone and robbed a bank. 386 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,520 I think as. Well, she's like, I don't 387 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,280 believe you made they always make it kind of like sexual, 388 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,920 which I don't really understand why they always. 389 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Make it about sex. Because you could me, I'm like, 390 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,000 just can you not mention that at all? 391 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Do you know? Like it just makes me feel 392 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,280 inherently uncomfortable. I'm already. 393 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,120 Fucking actually care who your child is having sex. 394 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,400 No why? That's what I would like. 395 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,800 It is a weird when you think about it, because that's what 396 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,640 they always come down to as well. 397 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:00,000 And it's that's like such a small part of being of any kind 398 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,520 of sexual orientation. I mean, I was so she was like, 399 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,240 tell your father. So obviously I went downstairs 400 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,560 and I was like, no. And I and I told him I said I'm 401 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,640 in Natalia. And he was like well why fuck 402 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,360 me, my daddy's bad as well. Yeah, because you really thought 403 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:18,840 your dad was gonna give you a bit of support. 404 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,720 But I think it is also because my daddy's brain doesn't tick on 405 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 all the same levels that he then in his head was thinking. 406 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,200 If you like men as well, why don't you just choose the easy 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,200 option and just stay with a man? And that's exactly what he said. 408 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Why don't you just make it easy for yourself? 409 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,920 And I was like, OK, it's not like that. 410 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800 And then my dad just whatever. Earlier on in the day, I bought 411 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,320 myself some, like, some vodka, some ice and some limes because 412 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,240 I was going to make them kind of Oscars because, like, they 413 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 really wanted to try them. So I said, well, fuck you. 414 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 I got the vodka and the ice and the limes. 415 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840 I was, like, crying, driving away over to my sister's house. 416 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,080 I just, like, knocked on the door. 417 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,280 And as soon as she saw me crying and she's like, OK, yeah, I get 418 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,720 it. I was in such a bad way because 419 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,920 it was every everything that I had thought and more, you know? 420 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280 And I ended up having a few drinks with Megan. 421 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,280 And then I think Lauren, my other sister, spoke. 422 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,440 To her on the phone just about to just come in there because 423 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,880 you know, you've, we've spoken about this at great lengths. 424 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,400 And I think the one amazing thing about this is that your 425 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 sister's really rallied for you. I mean, Megan you would expect 426 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880 because she'd been through it. But but also but Megan was 427 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,640 getting the wrath as well because it was also like you're 428 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,280 the gay sister. This has happened because of you 429 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,160 or the but Lauren. Also, you know, being the 430 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,800 straight one, yeah, she she also really defended you both and 431 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,760 stuck up to your mum. And I think at that point as 432 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,120 well, Lauren was always the voice of reason. 433 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Yeah. So for Lauren to come forward 434 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,280 and say it and call out that injustice was a massive, I mean, 435 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,240 I turning point. I think if I could have done it 436 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,560 differently, I wouldn't have been alone because it would have 437 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,960 been much better to have had a room full of my sisters there or 438 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,160 like a good friend or whatever I think. 439 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,360 But I got fucking bamboos or didn't I? 440 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,280 So I don't really have much of A choice. 441 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,840 I then. One of those things as well 442 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,720 though where there is never a right time. 443 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,160 No, there isn't a right there's. A right time for you. 444 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,600 There's never a right time for anyone else. 445 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Hey, look. I'm glad I did it right because 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,240 look at me now. I'm very happy. 447 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,880 But it but it's more so, you know, I, I went back to the 448 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,520 house and I, you know, I said, look, I could be pregnant. 449 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,880 I could be addicted to heroin. She was like, that would be 450 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,080 easier to deal with. Jesus Christ. 451 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,200 And then she's and I said, would you rather I just didn't tell 452 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,760 you then and just lie to you the rest of my life? 453 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Yeah. Wow. 454 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,160 And then she said, you just go swanning off into the sunset 455 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,840 with your girlfriend. And I was like, wow. 456 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,920 That sounds like a bit of jealousy. 457 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,120 That's lovely, doesn't it? Sounds like a bit of jealousy. 458 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:46,000 As far as I'm jealous and. And for the following weeks 459 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,400 after that, I just got ignored. Like proper silent treatment 460 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,800 just was. Yeah, but it made me feel how. 461 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Long did it take for? Her to see. 462 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,760 How long did it take for her to come round roughly? 463 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,000 Well idiot little bitch over here me I it was her birthday 464 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,120 coming up in like 2 weeks after I came out. 465 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,800 So what did I do? I fucking throw a surprise 466 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000 birthday party while she was ignoring me. 467 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,520 I was like yeah, but also trying to mention this before. 468 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 You are the beaten puppy. I am the beaten puppy. 469 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,200 So yeah, I know. So it gets kicked, it's starved, 470 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 it's riddled with worms, and it's like. 471 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,480 All of those would bring. You a bit of like infested 472 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,480 chicken carcass and Freya will throw you a surprise birthday. 473 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Yeah, literally not. Probably one of the best ideas 474 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,200 you've ever had, darling. You know what? 475 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,000 It's also probably not one of the worst. 476 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,360 No, I've definitely done worse. I mean, it worked. 477 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040 She loved the party. OK, it's a great party back in 478 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,400 her good books. And then I think over time, The 479 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,920 thing is, is that she actually really liked my girlfriend as 480 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,680 well. And then when Natalia came over, 481 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 I was like, right, well, I'm obviously not going to because 482 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,360 at this point I was living at home with my parents. 483 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,160 I was like, obviously we're not going to stay here, so we'll go 484 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320 stay over at Megan's. She's like, no, I'm like, you 485 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,200 actually joking? Oh my God. 486 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,160 So even though she'd made your life hell over it, then when 487 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,200 you'd been like, well, I'll go and stay somewhere else. 488 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 No, no, no, no, no, you won't. Oh, no, you don't have to. 489 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,640 Oh, don't be so. Were you allowed to stay in the 490 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,920 same bedroom? Oh. 491 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,240 No. OK. 492 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,800 That's still snuck in there, yeah. 493 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,240 But that's that is weird because you're both like fully grown 494 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,880 adults at this point. So again, yeah, it comes down to 495 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,480 a bit of a control thing, doesn't it? 496 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Because it's like she's. The same I don't. 497 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,240 Necessarily want you here, but I don't want you to go anywhere 498 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,560 else anywhere else but if you stay here it has to be on my 499 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,200 rules yes, which I really don't like like if my parents told me 500 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,560 they just would never but I'd be. 501 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,320 I think also I was like, I was really just like clinging to any 502 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,880 form of acceptance. So, you know, whether that 503 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,560 looked like spare rooms or not. Yes. 504 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,920 And I also didn't want to kick up a fuss about it because she'd 505 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,960 already been weird about the whole sexual thing and if I then 506 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,560 she wants it to be like. We're together, but we've never 507 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,640 talked. With the best of friends, honey. 508 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,680 OK. Yeah, I kind of get that. 509 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Yeah, and but over time, you know, is what it is. 510 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,920 I ended up just getting more and more confident in my sexuality. 511 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,680 She then very slowly figured out that clearly it wasn't just 512 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Natalia, there were other girls because it. 513 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,400 Took until me. I. 514 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Still like until me remember we were all sat down having 515 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,000 breakfast and one day a remark was made like, oh, do you know? 516 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 But you're not you're not a lesbian. 517 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,760 And I went yeah, she fucking is. And she looked at phrase if to 518 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,120 be like you taking the piss, bearing in mind I was her third 519 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,480 girlfriend at this point. You'd also dated other girls. 520 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Yes. Yeah. 521 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560 And she was like appalled because I think she thought like 522 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,640 you were going to do a bit of a Libby May, if you don't know, 523 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,920 Libby May, by the way, is. Libby May with a boy, No. 524 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,680 But she always does this stupid fucking TikTok. 525 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,480 She was like, when I turned 30, I'm going to marry a man. 526 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Oh, that one's annoying. I think your mum genuinely still 527 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,760 believed that you were going to end up with a man one day. 528 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,640 So that was a second quite hard swallow to pillow. 529 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Swallow pillow. Swallow to pillow. 530 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Pillow to swallow, pill to swallow because she was 531 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,600 convinced that this would be a. Tale I wasn't doing any 532 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040 swallowing at all. But I do just want to say that, 533 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,280 you know, now she's amazing. She's amazing with me, has 534 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,960 always been amazing with me as well. 535 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,840 And day one has always been very, very welcome and very 536 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,520 amazing. This is no tea, no shade on my 537 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840 mom because I actually love her so much, right? 538 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,720 It's just the situation and that moment, it was horrendous. 539 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800 You don't need to say that, I always feel like you have this 540 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,720 guilt thing where you have to disclaim it but you loving your 541 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,320 mum has got nothing to do with the fat. 542 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,000 But that was fucking traumatising. 543 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480 For you, there's two things in this world that you can control, 544 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,440 and it's your reaction, but it's not somebody else's actions. 545 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,960 So you know your reaction to things is something that you 546 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,880 have. God, I need to take that advice. 547 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,040 But but with somebody else's actions, you're not responsible. 548 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,440 There's nothing that you can do. And I think the key take away 549 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,440 that I would give to you guys if you're either going through a 550 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,720 similar thing have been or feel like you may reach a bad 551 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,000 audience when you're coming out is that don't. 552 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Do it until you're ready, first of all, to deal with that. 553 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,600 To deal. With that, go bad. 554 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Make sure that you have a great support system around you if you 555 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,440 feel like it is a really dangerous. 556 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Environment and women say support system as well because I 557 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320 think we're in a really privileged position and always 558 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,440 have been where we've always had amazing friends. 559 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,160 Not everyone's in that position. So we will make sure to tag a 560 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800 lot of amazing resources and places that and people that you 561 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320 can turn to. And also, this is one of the 562 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,240 most incredible things about the Internet now is that you can 563 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,720 find your people online. So even though they may not 564 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160 physically be there, there are so many queer groups, queer 565 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680 spaces like you guys. I mean, there's us. 566 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,240 Well, yeah, but that's the thing. 567 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Make friends in our comments, you know, like the lesbian 568 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,960 horror, sorry, the lesbian heartbreak story. 569 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,240 People are commenting underneath saying, yeah, it was 570 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600 heartbreaking for me this happened, that happened. 571 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,240 And I, I briefly see other people come in and sort of help 572 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,120 help that person, which is amazing. 573 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,280 We're all there. We've all been through the same 574 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,720 thing. No matter what our coming out 575 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120 looked like, we're all going through the same thing. 576 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,920 We've all had that worry for sure all. 577 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,920 Had that worry, that anxiety, but also it's so cliche. 578 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520 It does get so much better. I think that when you start to 579 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,120 really accept who you are as a well look. 580 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,840 At you now you literally have a podcast called the Lesbians Saba 581 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Club. Yeah, I if that. 582 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,920 Doesn't say it all, then I don't know what does. 583 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,840 I'm scissoring left and right. That was a topic for another 584 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,400 time, someone said. Yeah, actually. 585 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,960 Scissor. I know. 586 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,840 It's really interesting. An awful lot. 587 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Did you not make your Barbie scissor? 588 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280 That's how you know you're gay? I am my Barbie scissor. 589 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Yeah, that's why you're a lesbian. 590 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,120 I. He walked into it every. 591 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,080 Time, I know, but I honestly am so glad that I did do it. 592 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,600 It was a horrific story. I live to tell the tale. 593 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,720 But but also I, you know, we are here and we are very visible as 594 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000 lesbian women. I am so deeply happy to be gay. 595 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Back then, if somebody said to me you can be straight tomorrow, 596 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,040 I would have done it. Somebody said it to me. 597 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Now I'd run for the fucking hills. 598 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800 I love being gay. And get us away. 599 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Yeah, I am. Shout out to those who are going 600 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840 through a really shitty time. I'm looking at the dog right now 601 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240 so this is really distracting. By the way, lovingly looking 602 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440 into my eyes like I am the best thing he's ever seen in his. 603 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Whole life come over to me first. 604 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Because I said to him, mummy and your mummy, all right, piss off. 605 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 No, I'm Mum, Mum, Mum, Mum, mum and mummy. 606 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,680 So my. Coming. 607 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,600 But I want to hear, yeah, I want to hear your coming out story 608 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,720 because mine's very different. It's a lot lighter, but there 609 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 was still, there was still some painful moments in it. 610 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,320 So I grew up, I think a lot of you know this now. 611 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080 So I grew up in the depths of Somerset. 612 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000 So I've said it before, like I quite literally, I think for a 613 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120 period of time was the only gate of the village village. 614 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,960 Well the one that was definitely only out. 615 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440 I mean I know there's loads down there, yeah, I could probably 616 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,240 name them all, but I'm not going to do that. 617 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920 I'm going to out all of those straight men at the local pub. 618 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,920 I fucking hate gay people all. Right, Jeffrey, we know you're 619 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,240 taking out this is. Not a Jeffrey, but yeah. 620 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:25,920 And so I had a lot of because I think you grew up in a really 621 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,440 liberal place. No, no, you would think that 622 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,160 Windsor was liberal. It wasn't. 623 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640 There was no one was gay when I was at school, obviously in the 624 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040 time that we were coming out, but that we were actually, I 625 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,640 mean. With you being in quite close 626 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,120 proximity to London, but you never actually really went to 627 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,920 London as a child, did you? Oddly enough lived really close 628 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,600 to it, but never. OK. 629 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,200 So we both grew up in quite conservative places, so mine was 630 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,240 conservative. But then also, you know, like 631 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,560 they're 20 years behind. So like we're living now in 632 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,400 2023, they're living in 2000. And yours is definitely worse 633 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,160 than Windsor for. Sure, yeah, Windsor was still 634 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,880 quite progressive in the sense of like you live in the same 635 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,440 time relatively, probably about 3-3 years behind London. 636 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Somerset is probably a good 20. So I mentioned this briefly 637 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800 before. Was in love with my best friend 638 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,800 that didn't work out. Had a fling with someone else 639 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,880 who it made me realise that it wasn't just one person that was 640 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,280 definitely a rebound just to make sure that I was gay. 641 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,920 And once I realised that I chucked that person. 642 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,200 So yeah, had a bit of a fling with this person. 643 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560 It definitely validated what I wanted it to validate. 644 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,440 Realised that me and this person, I mean they were 645 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,880 absolutely lovely, but like I had honestly absolutely nothing 646 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,240 in common. So I got up one day, walked out, 647 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,960 just never went. Like literally never showed up 648 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,720 my face again. Met my first girlfriend in Bath, 649 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,760 which we all had the absolutely delight of hearing about in the 650 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,760 heartbreak episode and kept going back and forth to Bath. 651 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480 And I kept dropping hints to my mom because me and my mom are 652 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400 super close. Like my mom is genuinely one of 653 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,160 my best friends. Like I FaceTime her about three 654 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,640 times a day. And other than Jessie Carson, I 655 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 think my mom is one of the only people that can make me laugh. 656 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,080 Like, I love her, but again, didn't know how she was going to 657 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600 react because, like, we just hadn't ever been around gay 658 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920 people. Or, like, you know, she's never 659 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,520 outwardly said anything really homophobic. 660 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,880 I mean, they definitely say slurs down there, but it doesn't 661 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 come with hate. Right? 662 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,520 So they say things that are problematic, but because it's 663 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,920 just a regurgitation, not because they actually feel that 664 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,920 way. Yeah, it's a really weird thing 665 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,720 to say, but it is the truth. Like there were two gay men that 666 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,960 used to work at my auntie's pub and they'd come down from being 667 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 upstairs and my nan would be like, you just had a bum in. 668 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,440 And she loved him. She absolutely loved him. 669 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080 I'm going to go to the pub to see Paul and Chris. 670 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,480 But she would just say things like that, right? 671 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,960 So I just didn't really know. And my I kept dropping hints. 672 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Then one day my mum was like, is that girl your girlfriend? 673 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,120 And I was like, you know, this is my moment. 674 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280 So I just turned around and I was like, yeah, she is. 675 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,160 And she just looked at me and went, what am I going to do 676 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,520 about grandchildren? I was like, mum, are you that 677 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720 fucking thick? I can still have kids. 678 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,120 And she just went all right then. 679 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000 And that was it. And I was like. 680 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240 This is the best story. Ever. 681 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Anyway, told my mum, didn't really feel the need to tell 682 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,120 anyone else, didn't tell my dad even though my dad literally 683 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560 adores me and me and him are also really close. 684 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,600 He comes from quite a devout Catholic background and again, 685 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:53,200 he'd he's my dad's super, super liberal, but I'd never, I think 686 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600 because I was always such a straight girl as well, I think. 687 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480 As well, you always live with the fear of never being that 688 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,280 same person that your parents adore. 689 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Yes, right. So you, you, you feel guilty 690 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440 about taking that away from them, even though you're not. 691 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,880 You're just being yourself and you're always who you were. 692 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,239 You. You fear that they're just going 693 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,679 to turn around and be like, no more. 694 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,639 Yeah. And and, you know, in a way it 695 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,320 would have been easier if I'd had those kind of hints about, 696 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,560 you know, I don't know, like the the the classic hints that down 697 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,400 in Somerset you'd be at Vash on lesbian, which is wrong. 698 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,040 But if I'd have like shaved my hair or got tattoos or, and then 699 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,320 because I just was so straight passing, particularly at that 700 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120 time, because I was trying to just actually blend with all of 701 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,560 those around me, it just would have never have crossed their 702 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920 minds like ever. Whereas Lewis was saying, you 703 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,880 know, his parents knew before he knew pretty much. 704 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,639 And sometimes that makes it easier. 705 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,639 So hadn't told my dad for the first year and a half of dating 706 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,920 my girlfriend. And then it was New Year's Eve 707 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,560 and we were, I was out with my girlfriend and two of my best 708 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960 friends from home who also grew up with my dad. 709 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,560 So knew him really well because we'd often, you know, go to like 710 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,240 Thorpe Park together and he'd take us all shopping and things 711 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,680 like that. And I, I said to them, I was 712 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,560 like, oh, my dad. Like, I still haven't told him. 713 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,440 I've just, it's just one of those things, like I just really 714 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,200 didn't know how to say it. I wasn't even particularly 715 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080 scared, but it was like, how do I just drop this into 716 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,280 conversation? So because they know him so 717 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,960 well, they were like, well, if you don't ring and tell him now 718 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,240 we will. And can I just PSA this by 719 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,720 saying that wasn't them forcing me to come out. 720 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,120 My friends know me very, very, very well and they know my dad 721 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400 very, very well. It wasn't like a pressuring 722 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,080 like, well, we're going to out you. 723 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,400 It was like, we know he's going to be absolutely fine. 724 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480 So if you don't do it, we'll do it for you. 725 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,240 That kind of thing. So at that point, he rings me 726 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,400 because it was New Year's to be like, happy New Year's. 727 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,360 I'm going to ring you before it's 12:00. 728 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560 And it goes absolutely mad. And I was like, what you're 729 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,920 doing is like, I'm having a bit of a like house party, a few few 730 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640 friends around. And I was like, OK, well, I've 731 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,720 got something to tell you. And he was like. 732 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520 What? Because my dad has also with 733 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,720 some things like, you know, I'll never forget once I drove around 734 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,200 his house and the the tread on my tyres was well, it was non 735 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 existence. And he was like, get round to 736 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,240 the garage now, like he could get really angry about the not 737 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,680 the weirdest shit, but dad shit, dad shit, like the classic 738 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,600 stuff. And he's like, what? 739 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,240 And I was like, oh, fuck. And I just went I'm gay. 740 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,440 And he he just in the most calmest way ever, just went 741 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Scarlett. I don't give a fuck. 742 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,600 And I was like, oh, and it was. That was the biggest relief. 743 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,360 I think I broke down in tears because even though I think I 744 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,960 knew deep down he'd be OK, there's. 745 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,320 Sort of worry. And I, and as well, I think it's 746 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,920 because I know how much my dad loves me. 747 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120 I really didn't want to let him down. 748 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,560 And then my stepmom told me that apparently he put the hung the 749 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,040 phone up, went into the house party where all the music was 750 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,960 going off, turned off all of the music, looked up to everyone in 751 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440 the house, and went. I just want everyone here to 752 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,360 know that Scarlett's a lesbian and if any of you don't like it, 753 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,560 you can get the fuck out of my house now. 754 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,720 Like. And that's legend status. 755 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,840 That is your legend and. Like ever since then, like both 756 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,320 my parents have always been incredible, amazing. 757 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,680 The only person I had a problem with was my nan, who I was also 758 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400 really really close. If still am like a second mum. 759 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,800 So my mum's mum and me and my mum had kind of always just 760 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,760 hidden it from her and I don't know why. 761 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,760 It wasn't like my mum had ever asked me to. 762 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,120 It was just an unspoken thing where we just didn't mention 763 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,080 that side of me to Nan. So we'd all be out shopping and 764 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,280 she'd see someone and be asked a nice bit of stuff for you Scar. 765 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,720 And I'd be mum would just look at me and like roll her eyes and 766 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:51,600 just be like go along with it. And I'd be like, yeah, whilst 767 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920 I'm literally like my vagina is turning inwards. 768 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Does it usually turn outwards? Maybe you wouldn't know. 769 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,080 You don't go near it enough. I'm joking. 770 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,120 So yeah, this had gone on for ages. 771 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480 And I then got to a point where I did start dropping hints. 772 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960 And she definitely knew, but she was playing fucking dumb for her 773 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480 own purpose. Like not satisfaction, but for 774 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,640 her own comfort. And then it was my, I was either 775 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,200 my mum's 50th, like a big birthday. 776 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,280 I think it was my mum's 50th and we were talking about who was 777 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480 going to come and I said, well, obviously me and my girlfriend 778 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440 are going to come. And she was like, oh Scarlett, 779 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,840 you know, Nan's going to be there. 780 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,960 And I was like, so she was like, well, you know, it's going to be 781 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,360 awkward. I don't want to cause a thing 782 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600 about that. And at that point I just lost my 783 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,800 fucking time because I've been with this person for over 2 784 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600 years. My cousins had boyfriends coming 785 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,320 in and out every fucking six months. 786 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360 They could come to every family event ever. 787 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,400 And I was just like, do you know what? 788 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,000 At this point, the level of fucking disrespect because I at 789 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,840 this point as well, I got so confident in my own sexuality. 790 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,280 That you couldn't give a flying fuck. 791 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,800 I don't. Care if people don't like me for 792 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,720 being gay? Show me as soon as possible so I 793 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,440 can boot you the fuck out of my life, yeah? 794 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,520 Especially when it comes to family members. 795 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,800 Like, man, she just fuck you, Mum. 796 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,400 Me and mum didn't have an argument about it. 797 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,040 Actually. It was more me flying off the 798 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680 handle. I think of the kind of the, the 799 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:21,320 secretness that I'd had to keep him for so long that I blew up, 800 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:24,360 packed my stuff and drove back to London because I was at home 801 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,600 at this point and I. Was like, you know what? 802 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,280 Fuck it, like I don't care, didn't say anything. 803 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Obviously my mum was then so upset, had gone round to my 804 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080 nan's and been like, look, you cannot put this strain on the 805 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,360 family anymore. Like Scarlett's gay and you have 806 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,840 to accept it whether you like it or not. 807 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,400 So my mum's actually a legend for doing that and I wish I had 808 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,880 the text and I tried to find it and I couldn't. 809 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,080 But about two days later, I received a text from my Nan and 810 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,560 it went something like Scarlett, this is your nan as if her 811 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080 number doesn't come up on my phone with their contact 812 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,920 details. I just want you to know that me 813 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:09,280 and Charlie love you very much and I am sorry if I've ever made 814 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,120 you feel a certain way, but you have to understand it was 815 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,440 different when me and Charlie growing up. 816 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,680 And I'm thinking, well, it wasn't. 817 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120 People just went out or you were just too. 818 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,880 Blind really quickly before you say this. 819 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,040 I feel like so many people find comfort in using their 820 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,240 generation to back up their own bigotry. 821 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080 And I fucking it's not OK. It's not OK a great. 822 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,280 Excuse, carry on. Anyway, she goes on to say all 823 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,400 this and then basically was like, if you're in love with 824 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,280 this person and you're happy, then I'm happy to love you 825 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,000 always Nan. And then that was it. 826 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 And then she was fine. But I did hold on to her 827 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,280 projection of homophobia for a while. 828 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,760 And so we met actually, and I was so nervous to introduce. 829 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 I've been. I'd again had two girlfriends 830 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,760 long term. They'd met my No, they hadn't. 831 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,360 One had, one hadn't kind of kept them away because I was just 832 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,360 really awkward by this point. She hadn't said anything bad. 833 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,560 It just made me so awkward. So my Nan's a massive country 834 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,760 song. Sorry country music enthusiast. 835 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,240 So I was so nervous of her meeting Freya. 836 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Within literally 2 minutes of Freya coming through the door, I 837 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,880 threw a guitar in Freya's laugh and was like sing for her 838 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480 because it was like that was my brain's way of breaking the ice. 839 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,160 And to be fair to me, I mean it worked. 840 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,600 That was a good she was. Stroking my leg. 841 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,160 Within no time I was playing that she. 842 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,800 Yeah. And now my nan is so fucking 843 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,400 funny, like she loves Freya more than me. 844 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,160 And we were all sat at her house a few months ago and sadly my 845 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,920 granddad passed away last year. And we were all talking and 846 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,720 Freya came over and just gave me a kiss on the cheek and she went 847 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,280 oh isn't that lovely? And then she just looked up out 848 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000 of no and went do you think I could be a lesbian? 849 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480 And Freya looked up and was like, well, I don't know, Nan, 850 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,640 do you reckon you could? Well, I think I could, but I 851 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,840 couldn't do all that licking and. 852 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,160 We were like. Probably not. 853 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,960 Then no, I didn't say probably not. 854 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,160 I said that's fine, you just be a pillow pillow Princess. 855 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520 What's that? But don't you worry, you'll find 856 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,240 out. But. 857 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:19,840 But yeah my whole family now are absolutely fine. 858 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,240 I was really blessed. My 2 closest friends, when they 859 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,480 came out, they literally laughed in my face and was like do you 860 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,040 think we're fucking blind? We know I've been crying over a 861 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,920 girl. For the past five years, as if 862 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,600 it wasn't obvious that I was in love with her. 863 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,080 I mean, we always think that it's not obvious, but yeah, it 864 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,440 was obvious. Yeah. 865 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,760 And yeah, I was really lucky by then, everyone surrounded with 866 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,360 me. I had a couple of bigotry 867 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,640 comments from like family members. 868 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,680 Once my auntie looked up to me and was like, oh, you're gay. 869 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680 And I was like, yeah, I thought she knew. 870 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,760 She was like, oh, why? It's disgusting. 871 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,920 And I looked up and I was like, yeah, a bit like you having a 872 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,800 different boyfriend every fucking three months for the 873 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,400 past six years. But I don't look up and say 874 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,680 anything, do I? No, you fucking should. 875 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,520 Well I did. I did look up and said that and 876 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,320 that shot her down. I'm not slut shaming anyone, but 877 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,360 it was more like it. Was more like, you're coming to 878 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,560 judge me. It's more the earth. 879 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160 That's what gets this done. I'm facing your growth. 880 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,480 One thing I could say that, yeah. 881 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,400 No, it's a pretty good one. It's pretty good comeback, I 882 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,320 mean. I'm quick because. 883 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,560 I remember that when you are very quick it's actually fucking 884 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,720 annoying when I when I went to an all girls school which was 885 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:27,520 literally like a factory of just cunts everywhere and in the 886 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,480 worst way. Possible factory, not the kind 887 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,080 that we'd like. Yeah, shit cunts. 888 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,000 And, and it was it really was like lesbian. 889 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,600 They'd be like like it was everything was like, do you know 890 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,280 that she kisses girls or like there was this one girl who was 891 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,240 obviously a lesbian and it was like, stay away, don't let her 892 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,480 look at you. When, whenever like we were in 893 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,480 the changing room, they were like, oh, she's walking in hide, 894 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,160 hide your tits, like those kind of stuff. 895 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,720 Meanwhile I'm there like ello tits. 896 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160 Jokes so bad. I didn't want to fuck any of 897 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,880 them, they were all ugly. PSA so all of those straight 898 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,040 girls are like, Oh no, she's a lesbian. 899 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,760 She's going to fancy me. It makes me feel uncomfortable. 900 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,840 You being straight and a female doesn't make you any higher than 901 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,240 A2. No, like you you do you know 902 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,440 what I mean? Yeah, it doesn't suddenly make 903 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,520 you attractive. So and also probably fine. 904 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,320 That attitude sends that rating straight down to the that guy 905 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,840 Sarah. No one's going to want to touch 906 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,640 you with a 10 foot barge pile. So you're fine. 907 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,600 You're absolutely fine. I hate it when girls say that. 908 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,720 Oh, it's. The one it's going to. 909 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,560 Fancy me? No, I've got a pair of fucking 910 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,800 eyes. Trust me, I'm not. 911 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,880 I've also got a pair of ears and the shit that comes out of your 912 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,160 mouth even if you're a 10. I wouldn't. 913 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,200 I have to. Two drinks I'd probably consider 914 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,400 it, but before that I would never. 915 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,120 So on the coming out story, we kind of mentioned this during Do 916 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,600 it when you're ready. Yes. 917 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Freya's advice would be different to mine, so I'm going 918 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,400 to give mine, and I know that I'm in a privileged space to be 919 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,120 able to say this. Do it when you're ready. 920 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:03,560 You will lose people and I know even if some of those are family 921 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,040 members I couldn't actually imagine so I can't really 922 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000 comment on that. But definitely friends, 923 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,960 acquaintances. Fuck em. 924 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,040 Do you not just fuck them? If you tell them and they react 925 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,120 badly? Thank you and fuck you goodbye. 926 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600 It will make space for you to be freer in yourself and find 927 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040 people who love you just for who you are. 928 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:30,000 Like even when I was in the midst of worrying and I was 929 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,320 lucky because a lot of people did accept me, but people don't 930 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,000 accept me every day now for being gay. 931 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,120 You know, we meet people every day who don't accept me or us. 932 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,200 It doesn't bother me because I don't care because I'm so happy. 933 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,960 And I think that's the biggest piece of advice I can give is 934 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:46,840 hold out going through, you know, keep hold of yourself 935 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,600 going through the, the trauma and the, the difficulty that 936 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,400 will be coming out. Because I'm not sure if it ever 937 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,720 is 100% easy because it will always be very emotionally 938 00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:00,000 fueled, even if it's positive. So I think everyone's always 939 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,560 struggles with it, but know that you will come out the other side 940 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,080 eventually and you will never regret it. 941 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,200 No. You'll never regret it. 942 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,120 You would regret never coming out and living a life. 943 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,800 Yeah, you've really got to be true to yourself because I think 944 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,720 about all those years that I beat myself up and wasted, and I 945 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,880 did waste it. And like I said before, I'm so 946 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,400 incredibly comfortable now. The only thing that I can say to 947 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,760 you is make sure you're in a safe space to do it. 948 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,720 Yes and no. But also, you know, I do 949 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:38,400 genuinely think that we're also not here to educate other 950 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,480 people. I think that the resources are 951 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,200 there for everyone. They have to be fucking blind 952 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,640 and deaf to not be able to know that gay people exist. 953 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,360 And we are very happy. We can live very fulfilling 954 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,000 lives. Yeah. 955 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,760 Don't also let them say, you know, I'm just worried about you 956 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,320 because of what this might look like for your life. 957 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,320 No, no, no, no. Our lives are great, OK. 958 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,320 We've been and. You had amazing jobs, you. 959 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,360 Do have the odd thing that happens, you know, and that's 960 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,120 just due to big to people everywhere. 961 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,320 But honestly, just live your live your truth and come out and 962 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960 do what's best for you. And just know that there is a 963 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600 massive community behind you that will love and support you 964 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,600 no matter what. Absolutely, yeah. 965 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,280 I wish you all the best of luck. If you're looking at doing it 966 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,320 and if you have done it and you've had a bad experience, 967 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480 then I'm so sorry, but I'm right there with you. 968 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,880 Ben, you will also find your way. 969 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,240 You will find your way eventually you will. 970 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480 So Marcelo, our producer just made a very good point there in 971 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,000 the background that we will, we're going to just mention is, 972 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,760 you know, when, when and people make comments about, oh, you 973 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,360 fancy the same sex, like that's disgusting, or your two boys or 974 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,640 your two girls. And it's actually quite funny 975 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,680 because they're talking about, these people are talking about 976 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,560 themselves. So if you're a man saying that 977 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,040 you find 2 men disgusting, you're basically saying you find 978 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,400 yourself disgusting. And the same with a woman. 979 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,360 So that's actually a very bizarre angle to yeah. 980 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,680 How bizarre being like, oh, so you're like going down on girls 981 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,800 then? But it's like, but do you not 982 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,520 like? I mean, in all fairness, I don't 983 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,320 understand. 99% of the time now I actually get straight women 984 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,120 say to me I fucking hate my husband. 985 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560 I'm disgraced that I'm gay, I'm straight. 986 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,040 I wish that. I was gay. 987 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,480 You're, so the tables have turned. 988 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,480 Not even in the way where, like, I wish it could be of a woman 989 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,880 because it'd be easier as in like, fuck me, I really, really 990 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,200 wish that I was gay. Yeah. 991 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,960 So the tables are turning. They are. 992 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,200 They're turning. But yeah, that's a really good 993 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,320 point. Yeah, for sure. 994 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,600 So on a much lighter note, but it's not, it's not light on the 995 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,760 stomach. We've now got Horror Story, 996 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,160 which I'm going to get Freya to read out. 997 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:43,680 So today's Horror Story is next level like I this out to me 998 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,920 earlier and I was like, oh man, but we got to say it because I 999 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,880 can't I can't keep this one away from you guys. 1000 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,600 So this has come from a I'm going to keep her anonymous 1001 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,000 because I think she might need it. 1002 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,280 You asked for horror stories about a year ago. 1003 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,880 I went down on a very hot girl, or tried to. 1004 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,960 It turned out that she had a really bad executive dysfunction 1005 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,120 which made it very difficult for her to shower. 1006 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,960 I found this out because I dove down very enthusiastically, 1007 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,840 touched her with my tongue, and immediately threw up. 1008 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,320 In fairness, there was alcohol involved, but it's probably the 1009 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,600 most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to me. 1010 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,520 Yes, I literally threw up on this poor girl's crotch. 1011 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,560 I still think she should have said something when my face 1012 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,840 started descending, given that she had to have known that she 1013 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,040 hadn't showered in weeks. She only told me this after I 1014 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,480 profusely apologised while sobbing because I literally 1015 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,280 threw up on her pussy because it tasted so foul. 1016 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,040 She goes. Please don't mention my name if 1017 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,920 you do tell this story and I'll be able to go out of public 1018 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,280 again. OK, look. 1019 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,600 Oh. God, wow, Oh no, right. 1020 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,120 I've got a lot to say on this. So first of all, very much 1021 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,120 understands that some people have physical and mental health 1022 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:07,520 issues which make it much more difficult for them to keep their 1023 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,640 personal hygiene app. Right, that's just a preface. 1024 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160 We know that, okay, This is not the point of the story. 1025 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:21,600 That is fucking disgusting. That is disgusting. 1026 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,040 You're a dirty. Bastard, Nan would say. 1027 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,520 Dirty old bastard. Just get a bit of Imperial 1028 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,440 Leather up there. What's wrong with it? 1029 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,200 Well, Thrush and BV Nan but. Yeah. 1030 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,760 That is no. Do you? 1031 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Know what it is the not telling. It's the not telling, right? 1032 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,360 It's just a bit like rude. If you know that you have this 1033 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,240 problem, you're probably not best off engaging in oral sex 1034 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:47,760 with someone or. Any kind of sex, I'm sorry, 1035 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040 don't dismiss. You because like you would see 1036 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,400 them go because like even like no. 1037 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,840 I'm sorry because even if you were to. 1038 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,960 But also you think about the amount of public toilets that 1039 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,640 they've used as well. I can only hope they write wipe 1040 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,280 front to back and not back to front. 1041 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,040 Just a bit of poo. That's just come into my mind. 1042 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,280 Yeah, you say not oral anything. I wouldn't even want to strap 1043 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,440 someone who'd not showered and weeds because you'd smell it. 1044 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,440 I'd probably fucking pass out. And then as you'd pass out, 1045 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,360 you'd pass out into their pussy. That would just be my. 1046 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,680 Wearing a strap on. Oh, I just. 1047 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,640 Yeah, no, I'm really sorry because like, that is a really? 1048 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,640 Did she? I have a question though. 1049 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960 Did you not smell it before you put your tongue on that though? 1050 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,440 Because I feel like you've been drunk. 1051 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,640 I feel like me and you are very very sensitive to smells though, 1052 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,960 so this may not. Apply to the general and she. 1053 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960 Drove down so she was dedicated to the purse, which. 1054 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,120 I respect the dedication to the purse, but I also feel like you 1055 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,800 would smell that if I can mile away shortly. 1056 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,600 Depends. Depends what the girl was 1057 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,040 wearing and as you say as well, like sometimes like my perfume. 1058 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,960 It's not her fault. No, babe, it's not your. 1059 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,680 Fault. Sorry. 1060 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,880 My perfume's quite strong that I don't really. 1061 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,440 I can smell my perfume a lot when I'm walking around, so I 1062 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,120 don't. No, sorry. 1063 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,640 I don't necessarily always detect other smells. 1064 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,160 Yeah, because I'm smelling my own smell. 1065 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080 But I think that she just owed her that common courtesy to just 1066 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,640 say absolutely, let's not do this right now, absolutely. 1067 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:21,880 And she didn't even have to say that she has this issue. 1068 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,120 She could just say no, I'm not failing. 1069 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,680 She could have said, look I do have an issue, I've not showered 1070 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,800 in a few weeks and go down there take a whiff and if let me know 1071 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,600 if you fancy it and if not no worries. 1072 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,880 I imagine it to be like you don't have a pink. 1073 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,560 You know, yeah, they will. You know, when like you've just 1074 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840 bought a load of cheese and then you open up the fridge door? 1075 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,560 I imagine it to be like that, worse gone off milk. 1076 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,320 I quite like that smell. Maybe. 1077 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,600 Me and you would be fucking great. 1078 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,200 Maybe you'd be great. That's another charity, Dirty 1079 00:52:50,200 --> 00:53:01,200 Purse Charity. The Dirty Purse Foundation. 1080 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,360 The DPS. Yeah, I can't. 1081 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,480 I'm just so, so grateful. I've never. 1082 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,960 I've never encountered that I can actually safely. 1083 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,280 Say that I've never. Yeah, obviously all vagina 1084 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,560 smells and tastes stiff right in it. 1085 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,600 None of it is. Ever. 1086 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,760 You know when there's a? Problem. 1087 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,560 Oh, you know when and again, we all get BV, right? 1088 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,960 We do. We all get BV. 1089 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,800 But that again is also very because that's not a cleanliness 1090 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,840 thing. That's actually a dog best 1091 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,160 friendliest thing. Dog biscuits and a packet of 1092 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,160 skips. But that's very different. 1093 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,520 Oh, what a lovely dessert. I love skips. 1094 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,880 Spit out for a couple cocktails, nothing in the fridge. 1095 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,400 I'll munch on that pussy because it's some dog biscuits and a bag 1096 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,720 of skips. I need to get rid of this 1097 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:49,880 microphone. Put it in the bin. 1098 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,360 Yeah, put the mic. I need to put myself in the bin. 1099 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,520 Yeah. Well, so to this person, I mean, 1100 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,440 you are, you're actually an Angel for crying and 1101 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,640 apologising. I would have been calling it out 1102 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,320 way before this person told me that she had an executive 1103 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,000 dysfunction disorder because I would have literally just been 1104 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,720 like, I don't know if you've noticed, but that reeks. 1105 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,560 And that's why I've had to vomit, because that was like 1106 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:24,800 jumping into a Victorian sewage. What now? 1107 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,560 She now she has. Oh, imagine if she didn't. 1108 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,800 No, Imagine if she didn't clean it. 1109 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,160 Or after it got vomited on as well. 1110 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,000 Maybe that's why it smells so bad, because every girl just 1111 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,680 keeps vomiting on her. It's like the. 1112 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,720 Human Caterpillar, but the pussy, the human centipede. 1113 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:43,280 I'm. The Caterpillar. 1114 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,680 We've really taken this too far to the girl, I'm sorry that ever 1115 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,000 happened to you. I hope that doesn't put you off 1116 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,800 vagina and to any of those straight in quotation marks 1117 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,640 girls that listen to this podcast, let me tell you 1118 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,960 statistically, and this is a made-up statistic in my head 1119 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:05,360 that I fucking. Know 99.9%. 99.9999% of pussy 1120 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:11,080 tastes like vanilla and sugar and I can guarantee that that 1121 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:17,000 pussy is 99.999% cleaner than the smeg that is building. 1122 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,240 Around your ex-boyfriend. 'S bell end. 1123 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,920 OK, that was. Was. 1124 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,720 True. That was beautiful. 1125 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,040 You bring Smeg into the conversation. 1126 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,200 It's true. Once you bring, I can't. 1127 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,400 Go through an episode of The Lesbian Supper Club without 1128 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,120 dicking on men. So true. 1129 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360 Anyway, that is it for today's episode. 1130 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,120 Thank you guys so much. Honestly, it just gets better 1131 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,560 and better as far as I'm concerned. 1132 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,600 My advice for today's episode is wash your Bajaj, come out Bajaj, 1133 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,320 be gay, be proud classic and wash your puss puss. 1134 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,560 Use back balance active clean your bajean. 1135 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,880 Don't spray it though. Because then you will get nose 1136 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,600 spray nose just. Just a bit of water. 1137 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,240 There are products out there, I mean. 1138 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,400 I Oh my God, are you? Gonna say what I personally use. 1139 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,360 No, that's wrong. Well, yeah. 1140 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,600 Until Fem Fresh want to sponsor? No, until Aesop want to fucking 1141 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,080 sponsor us, I'm not going to go into how I use their products. 1142 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,600 Anyway, thank you guys. We love you. 1143 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,040 Thank you. We'll catch you next week. 1144 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,560 Catch you next week, guys. Bye. 1145 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:28,760 Bye.