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Hello lesbians, and hello to my 
beautiful, beautiful friend Isa.

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Hello, Isabel. 
I am so excited to be here. 

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They have been dangling this 
carrot in front of my face for 

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years. 
I've been waiting to get you in 

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this chair. 
That what is funny guys. 

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Obviously if you're not watching
this, we are sat in Isa's studio

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and I haven't even had her over 
to my place. 

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I'm completely in your 
territory, but maybe this is 

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just where you feel a little bit
safer. 

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Yeah, and also your place. 
I know quite. 

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Well, you do. 
Well, yeah. 

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For those who are listening as 
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Isa and Mellie, very, very good 
friends. 

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They were living together for 
what, 6 years? 

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Yes, in the place where I'm now 
living and I've taken over. 

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I kicked them out and I was 
like, this is mine now, bitch. 

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Yeah. 
So now she's not allowed to step

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back in. 
Your house. 

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Every time that I go, she's 
waiting with like a bucket, like

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boiling water. 
Yeah, no, I just stand by the 

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door with the door open. 
Are you gonna leave? 

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Oh, yeah. 
So, guys, I feel like, God, have

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we? 
I feel like me and Scarlett have

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probably spoken about you and 
Mellie and so many different 

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occasions, but maybe never 
actually mentioned you by name. 

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No. 
But I want to give a quick 

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little back story as to who Isa 
is before we go into today's 

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episode as well. 
So me and Scarlett were big fans

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of the dog park of Notting Hill 
and this was, would you say 

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about what, four years ago now? 
It was probably 5 because it was

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like in the midst. 
It was like lockdown time. 

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Yeah, maybe 2021. 
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Yeah, around 2020-2021, and we 
were always going around Notting

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Hill with the dog and going to 
the dog park and we would see 

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Mellie and Isa from afar and be 
too socially anxious to actually

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say hello because we found them 
quite intimidating. 

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And they're both really hot and 
tall and really fit, right. 

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So we were kind of, we kept 
looking at each other and we're 

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like, they've got a shared dog. 
They're always wearing gym 

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flows. 
They're gay, like 100% they're 

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gay. 
And we had, I mean, it kind of 

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comes into what I'm about to 
say, which is like everyone had 

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nicknames for one another, so. 
Because we are. 

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We were all our dog's parents. 
Because we didn't know, no one 

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knew each. 
Other nobody. 

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Nobody remembers their names. 
It would just be the dog's mom 

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or dog's parent. 
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So they came over and they were 
like, oh, we had many knees are 

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down as the hot lesbians, but 
now you've taken over as the hot

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lesbians are now there the 
sport, you lesbians. 

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And we were like, we fucking 
knew it. 

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We were like, we knew that they 
were together. 

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This is great fucking news. 
Anyway, a few months have gone 

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past and I think you guys have 
been Mia hadn't seen you in 

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ages. 
We had just stepped outside of 

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Gales and we saw Isa in all of 
her glory, all 6 foot 5 of you 

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walking down the road in your 
gym gear and Rabbit your dog. 

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And we were like, oh, hi. 
And we actually had a 

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conversation and I was 
starstruck. 

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I was like, I can't wait to be 
this girl's friend. 

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So I was like, how about we go 
for like a, a drink sometime or 

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something, like really 
anxiously, like do you want to 

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hang out? 
Which, little do you know, I was

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at Starstruck. 
And also I had made-up my own 

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thing of like, OK, one of you 
was a jewelry designer and the 

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other one was a furniture 
designer. 

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And this was not just vibes. 
These were facts in my brain. 

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Yeah. 
And I was like many, because 

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obviously me and Mellie thought 
that everybody thought we were 

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lesbians. 
I was like, we're not the cool 

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lesbians anymore. 
We've been demoted to sporty 

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late lesbians because now 
there's like this stunning 

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couple. 
That's fine. 

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Do you? 
Know that we were gay before. 

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1000% like I'm sorry but you're 
not very like you lead with it. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Lead lesbian first. 

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Yeah, so I completely leaned 
into it too. 

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And when you asked me, I was 
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Mellie to be back and then. 
Well, yeah, you did. 

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You said. 
Oh, well, yeah, I'd love to go 

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for a drink. 
How about we wait until Mellie's

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back and me and Scarlett look at
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OK. 
Yeah. 

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Mellie girlfriend. 
Cool. 

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She's waiting for her to come 
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double date. 
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Amazing. 
Can't wait. 

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And Long story short. 
As I walked away, I sent Mellie 

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a voice note saying like, I hope
you don't mind. 

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I just signed us up for a double
date with the cool lesbians. 

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Yeah. 
What? 

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Did Mellie reply? 
Fuck no, I don't want to. 

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Go no. 
She was like, Oh my God, 

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amazing. 
I'm actually can't wait. 

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Like, now that I know Mellie, 
I'm so blessed that she even 

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went for those first drinks. 
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Do you know what I mean? 
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Like now that I know many of 
them how like. 

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She loved it. 
She. 

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Did she loved the attention? 
Yeah, she fucking loves the 

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attention. 
And then we So we went for a 

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drink a couple of weeks later 
and you girls were both in 

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fucking matching denim. 
It was like denim on denim, both

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of you. 
No, she was denim on denim. 

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I was probably wearing a tea. 
You had a cowboy hat? 

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On like a banty, yeah, and up 
and down I'm. 

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Sorry, you both dressed for the 
occasion. 

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You both dress to the occasion. 
My cousin told me that I do look

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like a lesbian when I wear my 
bandana with my band. 

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You look like a lesbian when 
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That was all it was. 
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So we that gave it away, sat 
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Means that Scarlett start 
talking about a lot of gay shit.

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And then it turns out that 
they're not gay. 

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I mean, I said, well, how long 
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And they're like, oh, well, 
we're not together. 

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And I was like, oh, OK, well. 
Then you're gay then. 

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No, we're not gay either. 
I was. 

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The thing is that Nelly kept 
looking at me like you break the

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news. 
I was like why? 

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Why am I? 
Why am I even? 

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Like, I'm liking the attention. 
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Just be my wife. 
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So ever since then though, we 
have been best friends and I 

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absolutely love them both. 
And I love you. 

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And Isa has now started her own 
podcast, which is the We Found 

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Therapy podcast. 
Nice plug, thank you. 

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Wait. 
Hold on. 

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And just like that we found 
therapy podcast. 

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I'm not gonna say it right. 
I've actually had we. 

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Found Therapy Pod. 
You can find us on TikTok and 

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Instagram. 
Don't worry, I was gonna get you

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to all that. 
Yeah, you're all good. 

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But yeah, no, she is amazing. 
And it's got such a cool concept

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behind it and it's about going 
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the City and basically kind of 
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understanding the behaviours 
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and sex. 
And you have on some amazing 

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people too, like sex therapists 
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therapists in general. 
And it's all about debunking 

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that. 
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Of the pathetic female, too. 
Or like all the stereotype in 

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which we have to kind of follow.
I feel like the world has always

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been set out, especially for 
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It's very, very different. 
And in a way, it's very freeing 

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that lesbians don't have this, 
that kind of blueprint of the 

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steps that you should follow. 
But at the same time, it also 

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does leave you a little bit 
like, oh, what the fuck am I 

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supposed to do? 
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straight people, it's like you 
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one of just like the tick 
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By this age you should have this
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this. 
And I think that it's really 

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damaging. 
And I think that you doing that 

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through the podcast is amazing. 
Like I really, really love it. 

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And she's obviously having on a 
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So I enjoy being on the other 
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It is weird to be on this side. 
Yeah, I mean, you're talking to 

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so many lesbians right now. 
How do you feel? 

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I feel empowered, I and I feel 
safe. 

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Yeah, you feel safe? 
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he's also just maybe some 
watermelon with tahini. 

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So she's a fucking legend, but 
and she also took me to the gym 

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a few days ago. 
I was having a bit of a a shit 

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morning. 
I bumped into Isa. 

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She was like, I'm going to the 
gym. 

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I was like, I should go to the 
gym. 

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She was like, do you want to 
come? 

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I shouldn't have said yes, but I
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And. 
I What are the odds? 

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Afraid of being in gym gear on a
Monday morning? 

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What are the odds? 
Yeah, I always walk around just 

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in gym gear. 
No way to go. 

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No way to go. 
But I I've never been worked 

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harder in my life. 
It was fun though. 

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It was fun. 
My body hated me for a few days 

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afterwards. 
I couldn't move. 

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Oh, but come on, I'd like I 
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But saying something, Yeah, 
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But if you guys aren't seeing 
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like you are so strong, like you
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fight you. 
You are ridiculously. 

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Strong. 
You better not. 

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But I had to become it. 
I had to become it. 

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Yeah, you did. 
Well, tomorrow I'm going to get 

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to see you in a bikini, so it's 
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There you go. 
OK, so I'm striving until 

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tomorrow. 
I'm going to take loads of 

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photos and put it on the noses. 
We've become the predatory man. 

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I'm like, Oh my friend. 
There she is, yeah. 

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Well, I just love the fact as 
well that we, we are also part 

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of this like Notting Hill crew 
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So there's quite a few of us 
within the support group and one

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of them, Diane French. 
Diane is having people over on 

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on her terrace tomorrow, which 
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heat wave. 
It is Satan's crotch. 

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It is so off, right? 
And you told me earlier she's 

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having a pool party. 
Yeah. 

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She's just no pool. 
Like there's no pool but. 

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But she's going to have a 
paddling pool. 

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So I was like fair and a host. 
But then Diane, being Diane, 

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goes water installation. 
She puts it in the group chat. 

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I've got a water installation. 
It's still in the works. 

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Well, it's like how she calls 
the corner shop a deli opposite 

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her house. 
She's like, I'm just going to go

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to the deli Deli. 
It's a corner shop, Diane. 

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Yeah. 
And I love that, Yeah. 

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I love that. 
So we're going for the water 

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installation. 
So yeah, I feel like we should 

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do like one podcast today and 
then a podcast after. 

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Totally, if we're still alive, 
because I think we're going to 

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fry like. 
I think so. 

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I think that paddling pool is 
going to, it's just going to 

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have no water in it by the end. 
No, but I hope. 

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I hope we get ice for the 
paddling pool. 

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I think that's a good shot. 
That's a really good idea. 

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Yeah. 
OK. 

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Well, all of that being said, 
I've got ease on here for a very

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special, special quest, which is
to ask a lesbian all of the 

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things that a straight woman or 
that maybe you thought you'd 

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want to ask a lesbian. 
And there is nothing of the 

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cards. 
And I will be as grotesque with 

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my answers as possible. 
I wouldn't want it any other 

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way. 
And you know, podcaster amateur 

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that I am, I have notes. 
OK. 

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And there's even like little 
emojis with Prothean. 

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OK, so light and fun. 
Ice Breakers, wink emoji, fire 

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emoji. 
OK, what's the lesbian 

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equivalent of he's not that into
you? 

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Is there such a thing in the 
girl world? 

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He's not that into you. 
The thing is is that the 

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lesbians don't really do it 
where the girl kind of like 

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isn't into her. 
She'll either be like into her 

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in some kind of forbidden love 
way, or they'll get together and

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one of them will die. 
Oh, you know what? 

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Disobedience. 
What do you mean? 

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This OK, so disobedience. 
No, not disobedience. 

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Hold on. 
Not that one. 

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No, there's one that's called 
lost and delirious, OK. 

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And it's not as fun as he's just
not that into. 

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It's actually quite depressing. 
OK, But the girl ends up just 

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not being into her and then she 
kills herself. 

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Is that a common? 
Is that common we development? 

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OK so the only kind of like 
wrong comedy ish thing that we 

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have is imagine. 
Oh, you're talking about a 

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movie? 
Yeah, well, oh, sorry, are you 

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not thinking of the movie? 
He's just not that into you. 

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No, I was thinking like kids, 
the way that I see it. 

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Oh do. 
You mean like a saying? 

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Yeah. 
Oh, I thought you meant the 

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film. 
I was like, we don't have a film

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like that. 
I wish we did. 

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No. 
But like, do you know what I 

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mean? 
That sometimes US straight women

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do fall into situation ships 
because at the end of the day 

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testosterone drives men, Yes. 
Yes, yes, yes, yes. 

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I know what it is. 
I know that. 

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Yeah. 
OK, so you say he's just not 

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that into two girls. 
We say she's not an avoidant. 

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That's like the thing. 
It's like she's not really an 

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avoidant. 
She just doesn't like she. 

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Just doesn't like you. 
Like, because lesbians will come

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up with any excuse under the sun
as to why the girl won't like 

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her. 
And then it's like, oh, it's 

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different attachment styles and 
she's actually just an avoidant.

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And no, she just doesn't like 
you. 

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Got it? 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
But that's a lot like that shows

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a lot already of like you guys 
have gone to therapy. 

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No, Avoid an attachment style 
and all that. 

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Crap. 
Yeah, yeah, we, we know our 

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shit. 
How refreshing. 

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We know how to. 
We know how to describe our a 

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terrible behaviour. 
OK, what's the gayest thing 

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you've done this week? 
Oh, the gayest thing I've done 

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this week. 
Hold on because there's a lot 

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that's going on through My was 
pretty gay. 

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I line biked, which I think is 
already pretty gay into Soho gay

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to see Fletcher gay gay you're I
have looked up how to build a 

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bench. 
I got a girl to Chuck a rug out 

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for me. 
That's kind of gay. 

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I went to the gym with you. 
That's probably right up there, 

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actually. 
Anyone that goes to the gym with

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me is just playing gay gay 
super. 

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Gay. 
It was a very gay gay 

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experience. 
Yeah, OK, that's pretty gay. 

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I know I've done gay this week 
but I can't think off the top of

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my head. 
Showing up in like a blank in a 

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black in a white T-shirt and 
then changing to a white beater.

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I know, pretty gay. 
That was pretty gay. 

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The fact that I'm wearing Adidas
sports shorts right now and flip

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flops gay. 
That's. 

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The Pretty gay OK, who was your 
lesbian awakening? 

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It was Angelina Jolie in Tomb 
Raider and also Miss Honey from 

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Matilda. 
I get it. 

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Do you know what I? 
Mean I get it. 

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Although Miss Honey with those 
dresses. 

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It was the way that she was. 
So like, do you know what it 

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was? 
It was how she would get up 

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close to Matilda. 
And I would, like, have to say 

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it so that people can hear it in
the mind. 

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But get up to him and she'd be 
like, so what's 1 + 1? 

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And like, she'd always be, like,
whispering to her, like, very 

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intensely. 
And like, yeah, I know that 

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Matilda was a kid. 
OK, Don't make it weird. 

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But like, I was a kid and I was 
thinking, I want to be Matilda. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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OK, so none of the Elizabeth, 
Hurley said. 

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Like she's the demon or she's 
the devil, whatever. 

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No. 
OK. 

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And none of that kind of stuff. 
Did you ever? 

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Have a lesbian awakening. 
As a straight woman. 

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I mean. 
Did you ever look at a woman and

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go? 
Yes, and I'll tell you why 

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'cause like, I was always 
waiting for my boobs to grow, 

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OK, And they never came in. 
Yeah. 

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So I would look into the TV and 
like, always fixate in girls 

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with, like, big boobs. 
And when Lizzie McGuire or 

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Hannah Montana had the episode 
about them getting the first 

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prom like. 
I think I. 

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Eventually make peace with it at
18 like it took a while. 

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So you were kind of looking at 
them more in the way of like, I 

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want to be like them, not I want
to be with them, you know? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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That, that checks out. 
Yeah. 

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But like, I feel like we like, 
as women, I can have that, too. 

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Like there's so many times where
I look at a woman, it's not like

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I can look at her and admire her
beauty and be like, I want to be

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like you, but I don't want to be
with you. 

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Got it. 
Just there's only certain ones 

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that I want to be with, you 
know? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Lizzie McGuire actually was one 

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of them. 
I really fancied her. 

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She was such a cutie, such a 
cutie. 

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OK, you hold. 
Jokes aside, what's your actual 

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timeline for moving in with 
someone? 

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Way over a year, way over, like 
maybe like a year and a half, at

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least that minimum. 
When did you and Scarlett? 

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OK, look, we were young. 
We were. 

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Younger. 
We were young, so we got 

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together in the November and I 
think I moved in around like the

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March. 
So like, really not long. 

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But it was a very, very specific
situation. 

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And we were also in our early 
20s and there was no contract to

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the flat, OK. 
So it felt a bit less risky, 

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like she was already living 
there. 

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And it was kind of like ad hoc, 
you know, it worked until it 

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didn't. 
Fair, yeah, but it was a good 

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six. 
Years. 

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It was a great six years, yeah. 
So I felt like it worked out. 

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OK, on to Dayton and romance 
heart with an arrow emoji. 

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What's a green flag in a woman 
that straight women totally 

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miss? 
Wait, what's a green flag in a 

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woman? 
In a woman? 

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In a woman. 
Yeah, like for instance, a green

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flag in a guy for me will be 
like, oh, you know, he's kind to

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his mother or he puts the lid of
the. 

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OK, so I've said this time and 
time again, a top tier quality 

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man is a very low tier quality 
woman. 

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But like that I know. 
Yeah. 

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So that is beyond the bare 
minimum. 

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Yeah. 
You know, I feel like a green 

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flag for me is, is really good 
emotional understanding and also

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giving space to talk. 
Giving space to talk within 

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women is actually very, very 
hard to find. 

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And finding someone who will sit
there and let you talk, 

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especially when you're talking 
about like kind of like tough 

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subject and not straight away 
jump and be like, oh, well, 

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clearly, you know what I mean? 
Like that for me is a huge green

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flag. 
And I think as well, what else 

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would I say is a great green 
flag? 

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I think honestly being 
appreciative because there's 

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actually like there's so many 
things that you can do and, and 

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especially like being a woman 
and being a person like me who 

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like, I do go above and beyond 
like quite a lot just within my 

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nature, Like with anything 
really. 

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And actually having that 
appreciated, like having that 

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appreciated and even like the 
tiny things, that's like a major

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green flag for me because I'm 
like, oh, you're not just 

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expecting this and you're not 
just, you feel like you're 

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entitled to it. 
Do you know what I mean? 

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To be nurtured. 
To be nurtured. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Are there any rules about who 

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makes the first move? 
Because I know there's different

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types of lesbians. 
Yeah. 

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Would there be like a, you know,
silent agreement that a mask 

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will make the first move? 
So I think that some women feel 

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this way. 
OK, some women do feel this way,

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but I would always say 
absolutely not. 

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And The thing is I am like femme
for femme. 

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So I'm a femme and I like femme 
girls. 

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So there's not this stereotype 
of like the mask and the yeah, 

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and the femme. 
But also like notoriously, like 

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masks are very soft. 
Like, they're very soft and 

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really, like, don't really take 
the reins as much as maybe a 

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femme would. 
It's just like down to person. 

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I always think that it should 
just be equal, like honestly. 

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I'm quite forthcoming though as 
a person, you know. 

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OK, what's the worst date you've
ever been on with another woman?

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Oh, what's the worst date? 
I'm really having to think back 

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because obviously, like, this 
was like way before Scarlett and

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oh, oh, I know, fuck. 
So when I was younger, there was

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this woman in her 30s, and she 
wouldn't tell me exactly her age

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either, which is like, that's a 
red flag. 

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I was like, 22. 
And she came over to Windsor. 

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She got me a load of tequila 
shots. 

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We ended up coming back over to 
London. 

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She ended up getting a hotel 
after, like, quite a few drinks 

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out in Soho, Slept with her 
because just whatever. 

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Yeah. 
And then the next day, just kind

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of like, continued to drink, 
like, went down to brunch from 

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the hotel. 
She leaves. 

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She's gone for ages. 
She comes back and she's crying.

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She's saying her uncle has died.
I'm then like, I'm sorry about 

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your uncle. 
I'm just sat here with my 

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poached egg. 
I don't know what to say hanging

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out of my ass. 
I'm like, do you want to go and 

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get a drink or something like, 
you know, cheer you up? 

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And so she's like, yeah, yeah, I
love that. 

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So we carry on drinking. 
And then she's like, I want you 

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to go to this party of mine. 
I was like, OK. 

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She's like, my friend is hosting
a party. 

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So I was like, fine. 
By the way, she's Spanish 

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either. 
OK, first red flag. 

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First red flag should have 
known. 

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And then we we go over to her 
friend's place and it turns out 

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that she wanted me there because
her ex was going to be there. 

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And yeah, that was. 
And then I had to just kind of 

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sit there all quickly while 
Sarah and Rex were just yelling 

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at one another. 
So I mean, when you're in your 

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early 20s, you really put up 
with some stupid shit. 

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Yeah, I mean the drama of it 
all. 

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The way I would have left after 
the first drink, like now in 

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today's world. 
But, you know, live with that, 

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yeah. 
OK, now I'm bringing a bit of 

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like the supper and your food 
things onto my questions. 

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Which lesbian character would 
you invite to a dinner party and

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what would you serve? 
Lesbian character? 

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Yeah. 
Lesbian character or like 

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lesbian person either. 
Whoever you want most. 

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OK, I would definitely have 
Renee Rapp at my table. 

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Like, she's very fun. 
She's very loud and boisterous. 

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I would serve her. 
I'd have to serve her. 

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I feel like something quite 
greasy, you know, like I love to

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cook, like healthy food, but I 
feel like for her. 

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The one that did Mean Girls too.
Yeah. 

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OK, got it. 
I absolutely love her. 

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I feel like she'd actually 
really dig like a big roast 

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chicken and like, chew it 
straight off the fucking bone. 

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And some tacos, Yeah, I would do
her tacos. 

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I'd fish tacos for her. 
What about a cocktail? 

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What do you think is the gayest 
cocktail somebody can order? 

453
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,640
Oh, A. 
Beer. 

454
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,600
Yeah, literally. 
A beer, probably like an maybe 

455
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480
like a Negroni is quite gay. 
I don't know why it is. 

456
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,200
Negroni is Vaguelyatra. 
Yeah, yes, Vaguelyatra it is, 

457
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,240
though it's pretty gay and so is
like an old fashioned. 

458
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600
I'm so gay. 
You are so this is This is why I

459
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,240
got you on, because you're just 
you're just gay. 

460
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,360
This. 
Is actually an intervention. 

461
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:47,680
Actually, we ever kissed a girl?
I've kissed. 

462
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,320
You. 
No, you haven't. 

463
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520
Like a smooch. 
You have not smooched. 

464
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,120
Is this is a Peck on the lips? 
Yeah, that's not making out. 

465
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,120
You've never made out. 
You've never made out with a 

466
00:21:58,120 --> 00:21:59,120
girl. 
No, you've. 

467
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,360
Never. 
Like full blown. 

468
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,800
I am in awe. 
You've never done this? 

469
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560
I don't think so. 
With Tom. 

470
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,440
Yeah. 
Like a proper make out? 

471
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,920
No. 
What? 

472
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,240
You're like the one person I've 
met that's never done that. 

473
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,280
Really. 
Yes. 

474
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,320
What I mean, I don't know. 
But when you come to Spain, to 

475
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,560
my hometown, I'll you'll do 
this. 

476
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,000
Just shut the fuck up, you've 
been in London for years, don't 

477
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,480
blame Spain. 
It is. 

478
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,840
It is rooted in me. 
What? 

479
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,160
Like, I don't know, like don't 
be gay. 

480
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,240
Just just like, don't be gay. 
Don't be gay. 

481
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720
How do you say don't be gay in 
Spanish? 

482
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Nosy as gay? 
Nosy as gay? 

483
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,560
Nosy as gay? 
I love how they don't even have 

484
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,320
a word for gay in Spanish. 
It's just still gay. 

485
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,640
Oh no, it's. 
Slur. 

486
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,880
Oh really? 
Yeah. 

487
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,880
What? 
Nosy as Maricon or nosy as 

488
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,640
Tortillera? 
Wow. 

489
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,160
Yeah. 
I love how we're probably just 

490
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,760
offending all the Spanish 
lessons right now. 

491
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,040
I'm sorry, but like, but that's 
the I love tortilla. 

492
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,720
You know how much I love 
tortilla and like the word for 

493
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,920
lesbian in Spanish is 
tortillera. 

494
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,280
Well, then you're basically a 
lesbian. 

495
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680
I am basically. 
But that's really interesting 

496
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,440
though. 
So do you feel like maybe being 

497
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,640
brought up like that, that gave 
you a fear like to not even be 

498
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,160
open enough to kissing another 
girl? 

499
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:22,560
The thing is that I remember 
when I went to college, like 

500
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,880
sometimes I would kiss my 
friends but like more out of 

501
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,120
like sheer joy. 
Like we're having so much fun 

502
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,840
and like there's but like I was 
always like my favorite. 

503
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Yeah, sorry. 
My favorite things to do at 

504
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,000
clubs 'cause I was like very 
kind of like wanted to go out 

505
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,720
every single day and like, my 
favorite things to do was to get

506
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,160
like this shots at the bar 
called liquid cocaine. 

507
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,000
Two of those and you would black
out and then do what we call. 

508
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,440
This is a. 
Boutiweltas, which is like the 

509
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,000
horror lap OK to check out for 
the guy of the week that I 

510
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,160
wanted to hook up with I was 
busy I hadn't you I'm. 

511
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440
Busy. 
You were so busy you didn't even

512
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,120
do the agenda of making out with
girls to get the guys 

513
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,880
interested, which by the way, I 
hate. 

514
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,360
But like, a lot of women do 
that. 

515
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800
Well, for that I am a feminist 
and I I will not. 

516
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,400
Your sexuality is not a costume.
It's not your costume, bitch. 

517
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,720
I can't, I still can't get over 
this because my next question, 

518
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840
because I thought it was just 
going to be an obvious yes, my 

519
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,480
next question was going to be 
have you set with a woman? 

520
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Imagine you're like, yeah, I've 
done that. 

521
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,880
Well. 
Done. 

522
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,280
There's no kissing. 
No, no. 

523
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,920
Wow. 
Gosh, God, the more you know 

524
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,440
that's crazy to me. 
Is it? 

525
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,120
Because obviously I've slept 
with men. 

526
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Yeah, I've slept with many men 
with. 

527
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,080
Many men. 
Many men. 

528
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,160
Many. 
Many of them miss it. 

529
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,760
Do no, no, see, now this I want 
you to ask. 

530
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Yeah. 
Like, OK, that is part of the 

531
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040
raunchy. 
Bit discussing with me so like I

532
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,960
no I do not miss it. 
There's a chilly, not safe word 

533
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,200
questions. 
Love that. 

534
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,440
Yeah, OK. 
Let's skip to that then, OK, So 

535
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,000
have you ever slept for the man?
Did you ever miss it? 

536
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,480
What is it about a man that you 
don't like? 

537
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,400
OK, so do you mean just in 
general or just sleep with? 

538
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,880
In general, because like there's
something like, is it the smell?

539
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Is it the emotionally 
unavailability? 

540
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,160
Is it the? 
It's the gender, it's the 

541
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,360
gender, it's just the gender. 
Like I, I can appreciate a good 

542
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,760
looking man. 
I, I am very sensitive to how 

543
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,320
they smell as well. 
Like I like when I smell a man, 

544
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,920
I'm like, oh, like unless he's 
obviously wearing like a nice 

545
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,480
aftershave or whatever, like 
that's great. 

546
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,960
But just the general smell of a 
man, I'm like even a masculine 

547
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,760
smelling woman. 
I'm like, no, interesting. 

548
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,640
And it's not just that. 
It's, it's the attraction, 

549
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720
right? 
It's like, I just don't feel 

550
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680
that thing that is like, Oh 
yeah, I fancy you. 

551
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,720
Oh yeah, I want to have sex with
you all. 

552
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,920
Yeah, I'd like to share my life.
And I could never, ever see that

553
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,640
with a man. 
Like I could never. 

554
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720
And I can't get attached and I 
can't get attached to them in 

555
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,920
that way. 
Like I had boyfriends. 

556
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,920
Yeah. 
And I just didn't care. 

557
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,760
I just didn't care. 
And I actually just thought I 

558
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840
was a cunt. 
Like I genuinely was just like, 

559
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,680
I must be just a bitch. 
Like I don't care. 

560
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,440
They probably loved you so. 
Much and the reason why I'd cry 

561
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,520
when we break up was not because
I was heartbroken. 

562
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,800
It was more of a kind of like 
ego thing, like if they broke up

563
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,640
with me, I'd be like, what's 
wrong with me, you know, And, 

564
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520
and I'd start to really think in
my head of me, like, God, I'm so

565
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,720
bad at this. 
Like I, I'm not a good 

566
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720
girlfriend, Like, and then it 
just turns out that I'm gay and 

567
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,560
I actually just didn't give a 
fuck, you know? 

568
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,520
And so and, and sleeping with 
men, absolutely not. 

569
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,000
They are horrendous in bed. 
They are so bad. 

570
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,960
But did you think they were 
horrendous when you didn't know 

571
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,520
what's sleeping with a woman? 
Yeah. 

572
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,800
I was no, actually. 
So I didn't have a good, I 

573
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,440
didn't have a great time. 
But I thought that that was just

574
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760
how everyone felt because 
especially in like movies and 

575
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,920
stuff, it's always like, the 
woman is never really that mad 

576
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,560
about sleeping with the guy and 
like, whatever. 

577
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Yeah. 
And I'd sleep with them and be 

578
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,200
like, OK, I suppose I could just
like put up with what this is 

579
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840
and I'm not repulsed. 
Do you know what I mean? 

580
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Like, I wasn't like, you know, 
I'm not, I'm not like crying, 

581
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,080
but I was like, this just 
doesn't. 

582
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,360
I was like, am I supposed to 
feel more, you know? 

583
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,600
And then I slept with a woman 
and I was like. 

584
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,160
Did you, did you dabble back 
into men or were you like, no, 

585
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:48,120
this is my lane? 
No, I did OK because I was so 

586
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,320
scared of being gay. 
So I was like, no, no, I'll, 

587
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,000
I'll give this another try. 
I'll give it a good old college 

588
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:54,920
try. 
Yeah. 

589
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,880
And, and I and I forced myself 
back into that and I slept with 

590
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,360
like a few guys after sleeping 
with like properly with the 

591
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,800
first girl. 
And then I was like, OK, no, I 

592
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,920
was like, no, I am, I am gay. 
Like I, I do not enjoy what this

593
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,440
is. 
And, and especially after 

594
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,040
experiencing it with a woman, I 
was like, this is an entirely 

595
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,200
different situation and women 
are so different in bed to men, 

596
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,720
but women can satisfy women, I 
believe, sorry, but better than 

597
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,120
men. 
I I do believe that they can 

598
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,440
like, you know, the body better 
and like, yeah, you can, you can

599
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,840
wear a strap. 
Like if you're thinking like, 

600
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,200
oh, when you say that, do you 
miss it? 

601
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,520
Like I feel like you're saying, 
do you miss Dick? 

602
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Like you can wear a strap and 
you can pick whatever size you 

603
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,280
want and you never have to feel 
like you are, you know, like you

604
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360
could fall in love with the guy.
He's got like a tiny Dick. 

605
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,200
And then you're like, well, I'll
just have to put up with this 

606
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960
then. 
You know, I would never. 

607
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920
You would never. 
But like, you know what I mean? 

608
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320
It's like you never even have to
have that issue. 

609
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Yeah. 
You know, it's like you want a 

610
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,280
bigger 1 today or you want. 
OK. 

611
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320
So that was one of my questions.
Is there an equivalent of like, 

612
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,480
size doesn't matter but in 
lesbian world? 

613
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Or, you know, like a tiny Dick. 
No, there's. 

614
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,400
There's none of that. 
So there's no small Dick energy 

615
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320
that translates into. 
The bedroom, I think women. 

616
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000
If. 
OK, so so if the woman just 

617
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,840
genuinely isn't very good in 
bed, then yeah, that would be 

618
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
like the equivalent. 
But there's no equivalent in 

619
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,000
terms, I don't think in terms of
like any physical, like in terms

620
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680
of a physical thing where you'd 
be like, Oh no, her like her 

621
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,600
clip was too small. 
Like, do you know what I mean? 

622
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840
That's not something that we 
really think about. 

623
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Amazing. 
Yeah. 

624
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440
So there's not that issue and 
you can switch up sizes and you 

625
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,800
can do whatever. 
And yeah. 

626
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,040
OK so as a woman, do you think 
that there's ever amongst women 

627
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,720
like oh I am scared of getting 
naked in front of her for the 

628
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,080
first time because I'm 
self-conscious about my small 

629
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,640
boobs or this boob is a lot 
larger than the other? 

630
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600
I think that women can make you 
feel a lot safer. 

631
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,560
But I personally, like, I've 
always had, like I try and be as

632
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080
confident as possible because I 
feel like confidence is sexy. 

633
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Yes. 
But I'm still like, ah, like, 

634
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920
especially when like women are 
so beautiful, like obviously all

635
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320
shapes and sizes, but just like 
Steven with a hot gun and be 

636
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,720
like, I wish that my body looked
like yours. 

637
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Like sometimes that comes into 
my head and I'm like, ah, she's 

638
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
not gonna like my body because 
it's nowhere near as good as 

639
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,600
hers. 
Like, yeah, that's kind of where

640
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,200
my brain goes to. 
But in general, no. 

641
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,520
And, and like, women just love 
women's bodies. 

642
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400
So it's just kind of like you 
feel very adored, you know? 

643
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,920
Yeah. 
OK. 

644
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,640
I have a question, going back 
into like sleeping with men and 

645
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,520
whatnot, do you think that then 
there's something and you know, 

646
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,600
maybe I'm stepping a bit too 
into like the woke of it all, 

647
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,760
But like, have you ever been 
attracted to a trans woman? 

648
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Or do you think that there's 
something within the smell or 

649
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,640
whatever it is that you feel 
that anatomically you're not 

650
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,160
attracted to in a man that like 
you just cannot separate? 

651
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160
That's really that's a really 
interesting question because 

652
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:14,520
also like a trans woman will go 
on like estrogen, so probably 

653
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,720
wouldn't have that like smell, 
that testosterone smell that a 

654
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,480
man has. 
Would I sleep with a trans woman

655
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800
was post op yes. 
OK, so she was post operation 

656
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,960
100%. 
I see trans women as women, but 

657
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,400
pre OP just for me, like 
personally, just because I don't

658
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,720
know, I that's a struggle. 
But I'm also not saying no. 

659
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,040
I'm just saying I don't think 
so. 

660
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,920
But I would certainly date a 
trans woman. 

661
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Yeah, I wouldn't like, you know,
I feel like if the energy is 

662
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040
right. 
Damage do you think lesbian porn

663
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:55,360
has done to you guys and do you 
ever dis like get into or land 

664
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,480
with maybe a straight girl that 
is dabbling into the gay world 

665
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,360
and you're like, oh, I see, I 
see that where you did your 

666
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,680
research. 
Yeah, I I think that lesbian 

667
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800
porn is nothing like lesbian 
sex. 

668
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360
So me and my lesbian friends, 
but find me a lesbian who 

669
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,320
watches it. 
Like no one, No lesbian watches 

670
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,520
lesbian porn because it's just 
an embarrassment. 

671
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Like it's so bad and it feels so
false and just. 

672
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,720
And if we've got long nails, I'm
like, what are you doing? 

673
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Yeah, no one. 
There it is. 

674
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,520
There it is. 
Yeah. 

675
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Those would you, you would give 
a smear test with these. 

676
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Yeah, you could collect some 
cells. 

677
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Yeah, in the cervix. 
Mellie's sister once told me she

678
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,640
was picking me up in DC and she 
was like, oh, I love your nails.

679
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,480
And I was like, well, you could 
have these nails. 

680
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,760
Too. 
No, you fucking couldn't. 

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Like is it I need to tell you 
something when 2 girls really 

682
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,920
really love each other? 
Yeah, we do not be wearing 

683
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,040
acrylics maybe. 
Yeah, I what was the question 

684
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960
again? 
Do how much damage do you think 

685
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,080
that? 
Oh, how much damage? 

686
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Yeah, Yeah. 
I think, I think in terms of 

687
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,000
just like the sexualization of 
lesbians, 100%, yeah. 

688
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200
In terms of actually like girls 
wanting to sleep with girls, I 

689
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,560
don't think that it's done that 
damage. 

690
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,880
I do genuinely think that a lot 
of women feel that urge to sleep

691
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200
with the other women. 
Yeah. 

692
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Do you think that in this day 
and age where I think there's a 

693
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,520
lot more talk about fluidity and
like whatever, being a bit more 

694
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:23,480
open about what you desire has 
brought a few more confused 

695
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,840
girls into your school? 
Yes. 

696
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,200
OK. 
Are there tell tale signs of 

697
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,840
like, how can you maybe 
distinguish somebody who's like 

698
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
gay for real or somebody who's 
just like having a bit of fun? 

699
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,800
Depends how wet they get. 
I'm joking. 

700
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,680
That's such an awful joke. 
So no, because. 

701
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Well, look. 
Yeah, OK. 

702
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,440
I think that with women, I think
that it's really good by the 

703
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,800
way, this like this whole new 
open door of fluidity, because I

704
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,880
do also believe that like a lot 
of sexuality can be fluid and I 

705
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,040
think that people wanting to 
explore that in any way, shape 

706
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,800
or form fucking amazing. 
Do it. 

707
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
I'd always just say just do it 
because you've also got nothing 

708
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,199
to lose ever. 
Like and if you didn't like it, 

709
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,400
you didn't like it. 
You know tell tale signs that 

710
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,920
sometimes when you just be the 
fact that women are 

711
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:25,120
indoctrinated since birth to 
want male validation and want 

712
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,280
male gaze upon them. 
Yes and, but, but what I would 

713
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,960
say is that sometimes the type 
of girls are like that and maybe

714
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,719
wearing a bit too much about how
that guy is feeling about this 

715
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,040
or like if a guy is watching 
whilst it's happening or maybe 

716
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,800
it talks about a guy quite a 
lot. 

717
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,360
And I'm like, OK, well maybe I 
could be completely wrong, but I

718
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:50,400
do just feel like some people 
like to say that they are part 

719
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,239
this community, right? 
But wouldn't and have actually 

720
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,280
actively said though that they 
wouldn't sleep with a woman. 

721
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,120
And for me, I find that 
frustrating. 

722
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Yeah, call me biphobic if you 
want to call me biphobic, 

723
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,880
whatever. 
I don't think it's biphobic if 

724
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080
you are. 
It's not coat tailing. 

725
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Is it coat tailing? 
Right, it is a bit of coat. 

726
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,920
Yeah, it's coat. 
Yeah, it's coat tailing. 

727
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,800
So I was trying to think if that
was the right time, coat tailing

728
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:25,000
to to believe that you are a 
part of a community in which you

729
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,200
actively aren't really a part 
of. 

730
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,840
And and by the way, you can be 
an ally and, like, I welcome you

731
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,800
into anything that I do, right. 
But to say that you are a 

732
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,320
bisexual, but you actually have 
no interest really in women, I 

733
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,720
find that damaging because I 
also think that it feeds into 

734
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,000
the trope of, well, you know, 
bisexuals aren't real. 

735
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,320
If anything, they do more harm 
to the bisexual community than 

736
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,000
they do the lesbian community 
because then they're not taken 

737
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,280
seriously. 
Yeah. 

738
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080
You know, but that's just me 
being me. 

739
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,960
I think that honestly everyone 
just needs to just try and do 

740
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,440
whatever they want. 
And maybe if they feel like that

741
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,240
whole life has been, I don't 
know, it can be really eye 

742
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,520
opening. 
Like I know some people that 

743
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,440
have like at a later age and 
they're loving it so. 

744
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Do you think that there's maybe 
some women that could be open 

745
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,160
just to the physical part of it?
Can there be just sex between 

746
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,840
women? 
Yeah. 

747
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,080
Yeah, 100 percent, 100%. 
I also think that like, I would 

748
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,000
call that bisexual. 
So like, you are not bi 

749
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,880
romantic. 
You're like literally just 

750
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,720
bisexual. 
You may just enjoy sitting with 

751
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,320
the women, but maybe you don't 
form that emotional connection 

752
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,480
to them. 
And some people and some women 

753
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,360
have sex with men but don't form
the emotional attachment to 

754
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,040
them. 
So it can go both ways. 

755
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,000
But yeah, that that can happen. 
You can just like sleep with a 

756
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,840
woman and just not it just be 
sex. 

757
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,800
But you both have to be there, 
right? 

758
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,240
You know, like that's a recipe 
for disaster. 

759
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,520
If one of you isn't 1 of you 
isn't got it, It's kind of bad. 

760
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,560
OK, real talk though, how long 
is too long in bed? 

761
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,080
A day. 24 hours. 24 hours with 
no water? 

762
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:24,000
OK, that's how long is too long.
Once you reach the six hour 

763
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,840
mark, you have to be like, OK, 
why don't we take a breather, 

764
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,920
right? 
Yeah. 

765
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,720
How many orgasms do you think 
you can fit into those six 

766
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,600
hours? 
Do you think it's by hour or by 

767
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,120
orgasm? 
Kind of trying to do like a it's

768
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680
usually it's yeah. 
I think by orgasm I'd say I'd 

769
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,120
say my Max. 
My Max in like 1 session would 

770
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,600
probably be 7. 
Oh my God, you guys are spoiled.

771
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,920
But as well, well, we're lucky 
and we've got stamina, so find 

772
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,960
you a girl that has stamina. 
OK, is it true that lesbians can

773
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,240
tell us somebody's good in bed 
just by how they sit on the 

774
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:07,880
floor? 
No, absolutely fucking not. 

775
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,000
Is this no crap? 
That's hilarious. 

776
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:17,760
That is so funny, I feel like if
you are going to indicate anyone

777
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,240
at being like good in bed, maybe
by the way that they hold their 

778
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,640
drink would probably be a bit of
an indicator. 

779
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480
For me it's like a confidence 
thing. 

780
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
But sitting on the floor, No 
probably not. 

781
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,400
I don't know, I could probably 
see how flexible they are. 

782
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,400
But also lesbians always sit in 
really weird positions. 

783
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Like this is killing me right 
now to sit like this. 

784
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,200
Like a normal person. 
OK, so more like the way they 

785
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,640
hold their drink. 
I have to say I've seen videos 

786
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,520
of me holding a mic and it's 
giving OK. 

787
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,800
I know. 
It's even extremely 

788
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,560
uncomfortable. 
I hold it like this. 

789
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Like if you could picture me 
holding a penis like that, if 

790
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,920
that, like if that is the way 
that you also translate, I'm 

791
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,080
like what? 
Like just. 

792
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Anyway, yeah, I feel like if 
they were to like grab it, like 

793
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,800
grab and be like strong with it 
and be very like confident and I

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,440
don't know that and just trying 
to think of what else, but I 

795
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,840
don't know. 
OK, so there's no telling like 

796
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,440
you know, for the longest time. 
I tell. 

797
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,120
Yeah. 
That big hands or a big nose? 

798
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Right. 
Yeah. 

799
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,200
I mean, with the lesbians, it 
quite literally is big hands, 

800
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,720
you know? 
Oh. 

801
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Right. 
It's just out there. 

802
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,160
It's. 
Literally right out there. 

803
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,720
Anything. 
Mine are tiny, yours are huge. 

804
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,960
I mean, they're they're a lot of
nail, but. 

805
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Yeah, see, yeah, you'd be a 
great lesbian with those 

806
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,440
fingers, but hey ho. 
But like. 

807
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,320
Is there a big ratio of pianist 
that turn? 

808
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Lesbian. 
I think so. 

809
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Otherwise, yeah, pianist. 
Pianist the pussy really quick 

810
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,400
transition. 
I I'm ashamed of my small hands.

811
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Ashamed. 
Is it is it the smallness or is 

812
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600
it the harshness? 
Because like, every time you 

813
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,000
come into my house, I feel like 
I'm doing the lesbian world a 

814
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
favor. 
You are, but they look quite 

815
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,560
dry. 
But and goes, it's not the size 

816
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,840
of the boat, it's the motion of 
the ocean. 

817
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480
You know what I mean? 
It's like I feel like I should 

818
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,440
have huge hands. 
You totally give huge hands. 

819
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,400
Huge hands. 
Like I wouldn't want to be 

820
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400
slapped by you. 
No, they're strong. 

821
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,240
They're strong. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

822
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,760
All right, to go down on a 
woman. 

823
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:28,040
For the first time discussion so
much really scared OK, because I

824
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,080
feel I don't know if you have 
like the same thing, but it's 

825
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,640
always just been a bit like men 
don't want to do it. 

826
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,480
Right. 
Right, and and usually like. 

827
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,000
I feel like that has now 
changed. 

828
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,720
That's definitely changed now. 
I mean, that's gay as fuck, by 

829
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:42,960
the way. 
Like, why would a man not want 

830
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,040
to do that? 
Dina's almost like a almost like

831
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,360
a dirty thing to do. 
Like, do you know what I mean? 

832
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,240
Like a bit like unhygienic. 
I don't know. 

833
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,080
I I felt like when I was growing
up it was because they'd always 

834
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,920
been, ah, smells of fish. 
Like they'd always like me. 

835
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Right. 

836
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,360
So like, well, I don't want to, 
I don't want to do that. 

837
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:03,480
And I was really, really scared,
but I was like, no, just give it

838
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,360
a go. 
And absolutely loved it. 

839
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,920
You loved it? 
Loved it, Yeah. 

840
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,200
And then I kind of liked it more
as I as I got like more 

841
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,680
experience. 
Do you have your favorite things

842
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,120
that you like in the bedroom? 
So I yes, I love making girls 

843
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120
squirt. 
OK. 

844
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,240
What's, what's the manual? 
The manual for that? 

845
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,840
Yeah, there's like a certain 
hook there is. 

846
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,840
There is something that I do. 
Yeah, there's yeah. 

847
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
And then and either the girl 
will squirt from like 

848
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:40,400
penetration or clit and I can 
always suss out which one they 

849
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,360
are and I will. 
Make it What a superpower. 

850
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040
Yeah, it is a superpower. 
Yeah, But I do. 

851
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
I love. 
Yeah, I love. 

852
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,600
I love. 
Yeah. 

853
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,640
Giving head I like. 
I don't know. 

854
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,440
It's a passion. 
Great. 

855
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,480
OK. 
Scissoring's so fun. 

856
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Logistically complicated. 
It can be OK, yeah, but actually

857
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520
it's quite simple once you get 
the good the good technique. 

858
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,920
Do you? 
Think that scissoring is 

859
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,720
something that you graduate to. 
Yeah, you can't start with the 

860
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,160
scissor. 
You can't, OK, you can't. 

861
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,280
Like I feel like, yeah. 
Instead of rock, paper, 

862
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,000
scissors. 
What could it be? 

863
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,040
It could be like finger lick 
scissor, finger lick scissor. 

864
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,720
Like which one are you going to 
go buy? 

865
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,280
Yeah, No, I, yeah, I feel like 
it is a graduation unless you're

866
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,040
with someone already that's 
experienced. 

867
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,160
OK. 
But it's quite like it's very 

868
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,600
intimate. 
That's what I like about it, I 

869
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,760
think. 
And I and I love, I love the 

870
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,160
strap. 
I do. 

871
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:41,040
Interesting to wear. 
It both OK, yeah. 

872
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:51,080
What is it? 
Does it look like a penis or is 

873
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,320
it just like a a stick? 
Is it just like just a stick? 

874
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,520
It's just like a thing. 
It's just like a twig. 

875
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Has the shape of a penis, but 
like usually like purple or pink

876
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,760
or something like it's not like.
Veiny. 

877
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,960
It doesn't have like, so it's 
it's got the texture of it and 

878
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,440
it's quite like soft, like 
silicone. 

879
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:14,160
OK, but it's because that's what
feels good inside, you know what

880
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,800
I mean? 
So it's not necessarily thinking

881
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,480
of it as a Dick. 
It's just like just looks that 

882
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,000
way. 
I I don't even think I really 

883
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,320
like look at it, to be honest. 
It's just kind of, yeah, like 

884
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,440
I'm more interested in like, 
who's, like, attached to it. 

885
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,400
But then again, it's like that 
control thing. 

886
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,640
It's the intimacy of it all. 
It's like, yeah. 

887
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,880
OK, so top three moves in bed 
for you. 

888
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,720
Letting out all my secrets. 
I never talk about stuff like 

889
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,440
this on here, so you're really 
getting it out of me. 

890
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Top three moves. 
Careful about this one. 

891
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,600
I that I do or that I like. 
That you, that you like. 

892
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,920
OK. 
Focus the one you love to do. 

893
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Love so #1 #1 going down on the 
girl. 

894
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,920
But a specific move is where I 
will. 

895
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,920
Oh I feel like, why do I feel 
like I'm talking to my mum right

896
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,320
now? 
But Oh my God, I hope my mum 

897
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,640
doesn't listen to this. 
Like I will suck the clip but 

898
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640
then also put pressure on the 
clip with my tongue at the same 

899
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,960
time. 
That's kind of like a thing that

900
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,920
I do. 
Just run out here the I. 

901
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,400
But you would like that to be 
done to you. 

902
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,960
I like doing that, but also I'd 
like it to be done to me too. 

903
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,800
Yeah. 
Tongue fucked. 

904
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Great. 
OK, yeah, everyone loves that 

905
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,560
though. 
No, everyone loves that. 

906
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Tongue fucked. 
Yeah. 

907
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:49,840
Yeah, I love, just love. 
Do you know what a good, a good 

908
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,840
old fashioned finger, like a 
good old fashioned fingering, 

909
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,680
like there is nothing wrong with
that. 

910
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,760
And but if it's done in like the
right way with a, with a lot of 

911
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,440
like move like that. 
I I feel like a big thing for me

912
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,000
is like having someone literally
like on top of me or like me 

913
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,760
being on top of them, like being
like very close, yes, whilst 

914
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,640
it's all happening, like very 
like intimate and very like eyes

915
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,760
staring and like smiling and 
like having fun with it. 

916
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,320
I love to ride the strap. 
That's a fun thing to do, 

917
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,880
cowboy. 
Just cowgirl that shit out. 

918
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:26,720
Do you think that you guys spend
more time with pre gaming than 

919
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,960
the, you know, heteronormative 
couples might do? 

920
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,680
Like foreplay, Yes. 
Well, I feel like the foreplay 

921
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,560
is like it. 
Our sex is like foreplay but on 

922
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,360
crack, right? 
So it's like our sex is just 

923
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,840
like really top level foreplay. 
And then the strap is like, some

924
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
people don't like it, some 
people don't like wearing it or 

925
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,600
taking it or like whatever, 
right. 

926
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080
So like some couples just might 
not ever do that. 

927
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,080
But yeah, I feel like our 
version of for playing is just 

928
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,120
like a lot of touching, a lot of
making out, a lot of just like 

929
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,640
getting very close and stuff and
then going into it, right, 

930
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Right. 
And then it's just like a lot 

931
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,440
more intense. 
Like I feel like, I do feel like

932
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,280
girls are generally just more 
intense. 

933
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Like, it's a lot more like, 
yeah. 

934
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,680
OK, have you ever had a sexual 
injury like thrown your back out

935
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,160
through riding the strap? 
Did I not tell you about the 

936
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,520
sexual injury? 
Did you throw your back by 

937
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,040
wearing the strap? 
I was on a marble island and I 

938
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,920
tried to get a different angle, 
so I swung my leg. 

939
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,960
Oh my God. 
So I swung my leg over the 

940
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,240
counter to try and like get one 
up. 

941
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,440
And then I jumped. 
But I didn't realize how close I

942
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,800
was to the counter. 
So you can imagine my legs are 

943
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,320
like akimbo and I'm trying to 
jump to to get behind. 

944
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,240
I don't know what I thought I 
was doing. 

945
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:58,200
And I bashed my clit into the 
corner of a marble kitchen 

946
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,800
counter. 
Oh. 

947
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,720
Girl. 
Got down, finished the job by 

948
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:08,880
the way, whilst in agony and 
then I look down and I'm just 

949
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,800
bleeding and it was, my clip was
cut in four different areas. 

950
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Do you know something? 
It was so bad to me. 

951
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Really, really, yes. 
What happened? 

952
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,200
When I was a kid, I was in the 
playground and there was one of 

953
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,160
those like metal ladders that 
goes like a bridge. 

954
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,040
And like, I climbed to the top 
of it. 

955
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,320
I'm from the top. 
I thought it'd be a good idea to

956
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,040
like, take a lap, take a leap, 
sorry, take a leap from the top 

957
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,600
to the ground. 
And like, I miscalculated and I 

958
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:44,120
just like banged like my legs 
felt like in one of those bars. 

959
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,400
And I also something happened 
there and I was bleeding. 

960
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560
How sick did that make you feel 
though? 

961
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,320
And they had to take me to 
hospital. 

962
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,400
Yeah, I'm surprised that I 
didn't go, but I was also like, 

963
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,760
I'm not going to hospital for 
this. 

964
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,840
Oh, I'm just not going. 
Well, let me. 

965
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Tell you, my dad had to pick me 
up because my mum was travelling

966
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,680
and I was embarrassing, so 
embarrassing. 

967
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,600
And I was like 6. 
Is that basically Obviously my 

968
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,480
hymen gone which came in handy? 
Yeah, amazing. 

969
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Yeah, but, well, I I was in. 
I was in agony. 

970
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Like agony. 
I can't imagine as a kid, that 

971
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,640
was awful. 
Yeah. 

972
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,760
I mean, it was bad. 
And I was also just like, Oh my 

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,840
God, what if I lose sensation in
my clit? 

974
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,400
It is game over for me. 
Like, that's it. 

975
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,200
That's it. 
I'm off this. 

976
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,560
I'm off this planet Earth. 
I. 

977
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,760
Can't well, you could still do 
the hook go down girls and 

978
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,640
write. 
This is not the. 

979
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,360
Same. 
It's not the same. 

980
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,640
It's not the same. 
But no, I actually manifested it

981
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,840
to heal very quickly. 
It took me 3 days. 

982
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,160
Amazing. 
That was good. 

983
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,800
Oh, that was so bad. 
OK I have one sex. 

984
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,960
One last sex question. 
Do lesbians ever entertain anal 

985
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,280
sex? 
Yes. 

986
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,280
How common is it? 
I don't know. 

987
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,120
I, I think, do you know what I 
think it is about anal sex with 

988
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:05,480
women is that it is a, it's 
what's the word? 

989
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,520
It's taboo. 
Oh, I thought you were going to 

990
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,120
say it's a lesser hole. 
It's a lesser hole. 

991
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,800
It's a taboo. 
So it's like, that's what's so 

992
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,560
hot and sexy about it because 
it's like, oh, this is like so 

993
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,920
naughty, do you know what I 
mean? 

994
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680
So I think that that and also 
fuck me, you've done like 

995
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,600
everything a million times 
already. 

996
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,120
So it's like, well, let's just 
try that one. 

997
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
And some women get pleasure out 
of anal as well. 

998
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,240
So it's like it's just, yeah. 
So it, it does happen. 

999
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:37,000
It's not like it doesn't happen,
but yeah, I'm yet to do it. 

1000
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440
But you never know. 
We'll keep us posted. 

1001
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,400
I will keep you posted. 
I'll message you if it happens. 

1002
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,960
Please send me a video. 
Yeah, of my gaping ass, yes. 

1003
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,360
Let me now, me and Andy now. 
Me in hospital, I took it too 

1004
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,640
far. 
OK. 

1005
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,840
I think that's. 
Yeah, it's everything. 

1006
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,520
God. 
Yeah. 

1007
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,360
I mean, it's a lot of questions.
I feel like you, God, you've 

1008
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,480
been waiting for this one. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1009
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:08,240
I mean, I find it so interesting
because you really are so 

1010
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:12,840
lesbian, less like you just 
haven't had any experience. 

1011
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,880
So it's kind of amazing to me. 
Well, you're I've kissed girls, 

1012
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:24,120
just not with Tong and don't. 
Worry I'm going to get you drunk

1013
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,840
Diane's tomorrow and in that 
pool I'm going to make in front 

1014
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,240
of Scarlet. 
But like, I've also been on so 

1015
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,000
many dates with you girls, yeah.
Oh, Jesus. 

1016
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Yeah. 
I mean, you, we're look, it's 

1017
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,680
fine. 
We don't need to kiss. 

1018
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
We we've got the relationship 
already. 

1019
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,720
Yeah, we're already there. 
We jumped straight to marriage. 

1020
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,320
Exactly. 
But I mean God, Jesus Christ. 

1021
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,760
OK. 
And then my last question, what 

1022
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,480
is your favorite thing about 
this community that you guys 

1023
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,960
have created? 
I think it's how passionate 

1024
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,800
everyone is like. 
Do you think like it's broken 

1025
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,880
down some taboos and it's made 
people feel more comfortable? 

1026
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,120
Yeah, and also just how fucking 
badass like everyone is. 

1027
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Like the women in this community
are crazy, like in the best 

1028
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,480
ways. 
They're so funny. 

1029
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,080
They're very intelligent. 
They've all got like, great 

1030
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,640
jobs. 
They're very confident. 

1031
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,600
And they're just so unapologetic
now. 

1032
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,960
And even the ones who weren't 
maybe before definitely are now.

1033
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,560
And I think that it's just 
growing in the most beautiful 

1034
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,120
way, I think. 
And and it's never boring. 

1035
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160
So I think that that's it's kind
of like being a part of a secret

1036
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,640
club. 
And that's what I like about it.

1037
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,760
Love it. 
Yeah. 

1038
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,080
And they're all hot. 
So. 

1039
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,960
Yeah, they are all hot. 
They are all hot. 

1040
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,400
Come to a couple of the events 
as all you see but the. 

1041
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Other day I showed up with my 
dog and everybody was just 

1042
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,480
crushing on the dog and not me. 
I mean, yeah, but if you wanted 

1043
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,640
to pull, it would take you 2 
seconds. 

1044
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Yeah, 2 seconds. 
Don't worry, they all fancied 

1045
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,280
you as well. 
You're you're fine. 

1046
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,480
So Iza, thank you so much. 
Where can everyone find you? 

1047
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Plug yourself, baby. 
Plug that. 

1048
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,240
So you can find me at We found 
Therapy pod on Instagram and 

1049
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:03,600
TikTok. 
I am trying to convince Freya to

1050
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,640
teach me how to use TikTok. 
Yeah, I think that we should do 

1051
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,160
a TikTok dance. 
Tomorrow is a perfect 

1052
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,680
opportunity to recreate that 
scene in Sex and the City where 

1053
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,040
they go to this pool, drinks 
with the trans ladies when 

1054
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,360
Samantha moves to the meat 
packing. 

1055
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,040
Well then, there you go. 
Yeah, well, let's make it 

1056
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,120
happen, okay? 
And do anything with you honey, 

1057
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,120
anything. 
And thank you so much. 

1058
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,960
I love you and lesbians please 
go and check her out She is 

1059
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,360
amazing not only is she one of 
my beautiful best friends, but 

1060
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,800
she is also very talented. 
Thank you so much and thank you 

1061
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,600
so much for coming on. 
And I'm sorry for traumatizing 

1062
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,920
you, but I had. 
To Oh no, thank you for putting 

1063
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,280
at ease a lot of my thoughts. 
Now I feel like I've got to be 

1064
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,920
even more curious. 
Just wait for it. 

1065
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,680
Yeah, well, you asked the 
fluidity question, so yeah, 

1066
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,320
well, it's only a matter of 
time. 

1067
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,080
It's only your one failed day 
away, your one more failed day 

1068
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,480
away from dating a woman. 
Girl, then I'll see you 

1069
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,240
tomorrow. 
Mine are yours. 

1070
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,160
Yeah, literally mine are my old 
place. 

1071
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,800
Yeah, mine are my old place. 
Thank you so much for having me.

1072
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,080
I love this community and I love
you guys. 

1073
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,840
You, we love you. 
We love you lesbians. 

1074
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,960
And we'll speak to you next 
week. 

1075
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,600
Bye.
