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Hi quiz lesbians and Narnia 
straight women welcome to 

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episode don't know what anymore 
of the lesbian supper club. 

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I've been having so many 
messages from you guys recently 

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talking about how much you're 
loving the podcast, Which I know

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that like you say to us, you're 
like, oh, you must get so many 

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of these, blah, blah. 
But like, please be aware, we've

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read every single one of them 
and we love it. 

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And it like, spurs us on. 
If there's anything that we need

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is our ego stroking. 
Yeah, continuously, 100%. 

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I need compliments all the time.
A lot of things need stroking in

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our life. 
Actually. 

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Shut up. 
If we sound weird today, it's 

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because the hay fever in London 
is fucked. 

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It's vile and I can barely 
breathe. 

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As mentioned in the previous 
episodes, the Sudafed Blue is 

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getting rinsed to say the least.
Also word of warning, if you're 

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not on Sudafed blue, don't don't
go on it. 

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On it, No. 
It's a dangerous, dangerous 

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addiction. 
Because every night I hear the 

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following No, wait, wait. 
Nasal Spray. 

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That. 
Please. 

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And then you go fray, can you go
into the car and get my nasal 

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spray and that really when 
you've just gotten into bed and 

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then. 
Maybe I actually feel like 

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bringing. 
This mic across the room just 

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for that. 
Well, maybe if you were a 

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responsible adult and thought 
about taking it out the car for 

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me, you wouldn't have to go get 
it, would you? 

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Would you? 
At the end of the day, that 

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sounds very much like a you 
problem. 

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Fair. 
Do you know what? 

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What, put 3 minutes in, we're 3 
minutes in. 

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I don't have the energy the hay 
fever is pulling my lids to 

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fucking Australia do. 
You choke on the spores or do 

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you like sniff them? 
Do you know what I mean? 

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They get. 
I think both Oh, I, I'm a 

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choker, she's a sniffer. 
I'm I'm. 

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Doing both. 
So yeah, I am. 

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Pray is. 
Definitely a choker. 

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It goes right to the back of my 
throat. 

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Every time I walk past you, you 
just give me a little sniff. 

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Actually, you're I feel you're a
chronic. 

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You smell nice today. 
No, that's her. 

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That's for me. 
She's the sniffer. 

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I'm a sniffer and a choker babe.
I've got all. 

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I mean that's why I am with with
the with the fucking allergy 

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that I am choking on at the 
front and centre. 

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Like it literally catches me off
guard and then I'm choking. 

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It's the only time in my life I 
will be actively choking. 

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Yeah, really bad. 
Really, really bad. 

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We've had a crazy few days ago 
as well, haven't we? 

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Yeah, I mean, you got yourself 
far too trashed, which will come

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as a surprise to absolutely no 
one. 

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But we were just saying that I 
have drank more on nights out 

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very recently and not. 
Felt actually have those nights 

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though. 
AI still think I'm tiny bit 

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unwell B. 
It was my first day of my period

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C I had barely eaten and that's 
that's where the problem comes 

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in is when I think that I'm 
fucking hard and can just sink 

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booze like a six foot £200 man 
I. 

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Mean you literally can. 
Well, I'll give it a good go. 

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I felt like you could handle 
alcohol. 

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I felt like you could outdrink 
Scarlet though, like. 

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You guys have never seen me 
drunk. 

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No, and I'm shine to see you 
drunk. 

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Yeah, how many nights out have 
we been on? 

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We've been on so many nights out
and Marsala has never been drunk

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for any of those nights. 
Why? 

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Why? 
I think it's kids. 

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I don't know, you guys are 
fucking hilarious when you're 

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drunk and on our nights out, 
like The Yellow Door and Lisa's 

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are some of my favourite nights 
out. 

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Yeah. 
So, yeah, yeah. 

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Like literally better than 
anywhere. 

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Yeah, but why? 
Is it because you want to be 

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sober? 
To actually witness. 

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I'd probably want to witness and
save myself. 

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Well, we do strip, so we do. 
Strip. 

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There's always. 
I'm waiting to get Marcelo drunk

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so he can strip as well. 
Maybe we'll make a tick tock 

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about it. 
Be a lot of fun. 

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I'd enjoy that. 
I would. 

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Love that. 
Let's be in supper club night 

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out. 
We are talking about two topics 

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today, one of which is why do 
lesbians stay friends with their

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exes? 
Which I really am excited to 

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talk about and then we're going 
to talk about you guys have 

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always in the DMS asking us a 
how do we meet lesbians or like 

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how do you meet someone? 
And I get out of their day as 

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well. 
And B, how do you talk to Fleur 

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and have a successful first 
date? 

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I don't know why the fuck you're
asking. 

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Any of you would think that we'd
be giving you good advice 

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because clearly you haven't 
listened to our first date. 

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But maybe they can learn what 
not to do. 

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Well, clearly you. 
Can learn from my mistakes I've 

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made plenty of but. 
Doesn't this just go to show 

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there's not a lot of lesbian 
shit in the media? 

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The fact that these fuckers have
to ask us is no cry for help. 

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Scraping at the barrel. 
Guys desperation it truly. 

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Is. 
So if you want to continue to be

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a little bit chaotic, be our 
guest. 

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Take our advice, go for it. 
So the lesbians being friends 

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with their exes is a really 
interesting one because you're 

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friends are both of your exes. 
Yes, and I'm friends of neither 

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of mine, Yes. 
What? 

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Does that say about me? 
And what does that say about 

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you? 
I'm a cunt. 

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You're not. 
I don't give a fuck. 

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There you go, conversation over.
No, I think no, no, you can 

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never put it down. 
I don't think to, actually. 

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It's a combination of the two, 
right? 

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It's a combination of the person
that's the the new girlfriend 

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and the ex. 
I think it's a combination of 

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the dynamic between the two. 
Yeah. 

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Also how things were left. 
Yeah. 

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And also if there's yeah, if 
there's like carried on malice 

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without any kind of like resolve
to that or like resolute, you're

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not going to really want to hang
out with. 

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Her I think there's just so many
layers to this like because. 

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But it is more more prevalent. 
Sorry to like jump in. 

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No no, it's more prevalent for 
lesbians to stay friends with 

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their ex than straight. 
So why do we think that is? 

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To start off with, I think it's 
because the connection. 

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I'm not saying is is better, but
it's definitely different to 

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that of heterosexual 
relationships. 

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And I think it's easier and I, I
think this goes back to the last

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episode as well, when we were 
talking about lesbian bed death.

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It's easier to become best 
friends with your lesbian 

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girlfriend. 
I. 

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Think it's more than that. 
I think the lesbian pool is so 

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small. 
I think you might fuck yourself 

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a little bit by not still having
that connection. 

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In a way. 
I think a lot of people 

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thriving. 
I know you're thriving. 

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I don't absolutely. 
I can understand why a lot of 

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people would want to stay 
friends because it's quite 

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difficult because they're all so
interconnected. 

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Especially if you've got like a 
bigger friendship group. 

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It's like all lesbians, they all
hang out and your ex was a part 

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of that. 
So say for instance, if if me 

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and you, we'd have. 
To we'd have to go, we'd have to

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stay to stay friends. 
Amicable. 

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Yeah, when 100? 
Percent intense therapy. 

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I'd probably have to move 
country to be honest with you 

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because like I couldn't deal 
with the with the hassle. 

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I can't be arsed. 
I don't know if that's 

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necessarily it. 
I I will go back to disagreeing 

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with you and thinking it is down
to the connection because I 

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think and, and you're right, 
it's down to the person because 

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I am a lot more cutthroat than 
you, which we all know. 

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Yes, there's pros and cons to 
being cutthroat. 

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There's pros and cons to not 
being cutthroat. 

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You are more willing to give 
people 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th six 

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chances. 
Whereas I'm like, on my 103 

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strikes, you're fucking out. 
Out. 

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And as you say, I think it 
depends on the ex as well. 

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So like your ex is particularly 
your first ex. 

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It was very much, you know, like
it was never going to be a long 

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term thing because she lives in 
Brazil. 

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You were really young. 
It was your first lesbian 

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relationship. 
Those things you like. 

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Yeah, it goes against you, 
right. 

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And so there was a lot of, but 
there was still a lot of love 

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there. 
And you, I mean, you can talk 

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about this, but you, you formed 
a relationship with that person 

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that was originally built on a 
friendship, wasn't it? 

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No. 
I thought you said when you were

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messaging back and forth you 
were friends for. 

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A There was no there was intent 
from the get go. 

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We weren't like, it wasn't like 
we went from. 

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You lied to me, little lion 
fucking slut. 

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No, it was, it was friendly, but
it didn't mean that there was an

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intent from there from like 
quite early on within the 

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relationship building. 
I think that you kind of don't 

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make fucking pen pals anymore. 
Like, however, 1000 miles away. 

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You make penpers. 
Penpers, but no pen pals. 

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So yeah. 
And that was definitely, I mean,

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I've just thought about some of 
the rogue voice notes I used to 

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say, because I don't think it 
was like, I don't think WhatsApp

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was around there. 
It was. 

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What was it called? 
MSN. 

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No, not MSN Facebook Messenger. 
I think it was Facebook 

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Messenger, but there was also 
this one Viber. 

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Where you called. 
Skype. 

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Viber is a bit like live. 
Genji in the room hasn't got a 

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fucking. 
But yeah, that was. 

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Years younger than me. 
Grow up. 

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Grow. 
Up live there, there are 

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obviously like there are 
differences within why you would

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want to stay friends as well. 
So like, I think for me, I yeah,

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there was still a lot of love 
there and and I didn't. 

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And ultimately it comes down to 
the point where like I will 

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spend years with someone. 
I can't fathom cutting them 

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completely out of my life 
because that's really painful to

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me. 
Unless they are a piece of 

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fucking shit then I can't. 
You know what I mean? 

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But let me say this, it doesn't 
happen straight away. 

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I couldn't just like break up 
with someone. 

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It took. 
A while to get back to that. 

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Oh yeah, it took years for me 
and my first ex to be friends 

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again and be on like a good 
level without talking, without 

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any kind of like little niggles 
or something. 

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And and it's whether you're 
willing as well, because I 

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wouldn't, I wouldn't say that 
you have to be friends with your

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ex at all. 
But I think in a way it's a 

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shame because you, you clearly 
liked that person for having 

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listening. 
That's the. 

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Rule and there's always like in 
every in every case, but I would

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say from an outside perspective 
on your situations, I would say 

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Scarlett and you like your 
personality types make the 

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perfect balance in place. 
And I think that that's why you 

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guys are successful. 
Whereas I think in a different 

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relationship, Scarlett's 
personality traits was someone 

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who maybe is more similar to you
or has conflicting. 

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Or is really sensitive, would be
fucked. 

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Yeah, I think you're. 
Someone who wouldn't let you 

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care for them. 
Someone who wouldn't accept your

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generosity. 
Someone who wouldn't. 

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Would take advantage of that as 
well. 

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Take advantage. 
Of that and I think you've 

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experienced that in friendships 
and I think that's yeah in my 

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opinion why well totally see 
that but I also. 

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Because my first girlfriend I 
actually really tried to stay 

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friends with. 
I really did try. 

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I really wanted to be friends 
with this person because beyond 

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the relationship, I did really 
like this person. 

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But she made it impossible 
because even in a, even when I 

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was trying to be friends with 
this person, she continued to 

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lie to me, which was really 
bizarre because I was really 

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clear about the boundary and was
like. 

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I think what I'll know I don't 
care about as well of like 

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friends of your ex, they tend to
stay in that same mentality as 

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if you were still. 
Together, they don't know how to

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break. 
Away from that. 

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So even if they're not in love 
with you anymore and you're not 

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in a relationship. 
It's hard to communicate 

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differently. 
It's. 

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Hard to figure that out because 
you've got to relearn the way 

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that you talk to this person 
because you'll have to speak to 

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them very differently. 
You talk about different things.

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And so, you know, I can 
understand why she probably 

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stayed in that man. 
It's not saying it's right, but 

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no, she probably. 
It was really, it was just 

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really difficult to navigate a 
friendship, really difficult. 

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Like we met up once properly 
after the breakup, I I'd had a 

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new girlfriend at the time she 
was dating my best friend, which

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obviously I didn't know about, 
but I thought she was single. 

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And we met up and IA found it 
really sad. 

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I found it really upsetting 
actually. 

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I found it really hard to be. 
Take care. 

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I don't think that you were over
her when you met her that time 

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because I don't think you would 
have been as upset. 

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Or agreed I also. 
Think I. 

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Yearned for her. 
I didn't want her back but I 

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yearned for something now and I 
don't know what it was but I was

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also. 
But I The thing is, you say 

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that, but at the time I thought 
she was dating one of our other 

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friends and that wasn't my best 
friend and it didn't bother me. 

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I wanted her to speak about it. 
I was quite happy to discuss 

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that that didn't upset me or but
then. 

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Maybe again, falling back into 
that same like what we used to 

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be kind of like expecting a 
person to be a certain way. 

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Even if you're not into them 
anymore, it's kind of upsetting 

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to see them in a different light
because it's a it's a real 

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reality change. 
Because sometimes as well, it's 

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hard not to think that, you 
know, I would have sat in this 

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same pub with you that we're 
having a drink at now as a 

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friend before on a date, and the
conversation would have been 

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entirely different. 
How the fuck do I now feel like 

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that meant nothing? 
No, because it meant something 

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at the time. 
But just because you say 

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something at the time and you're
with someone and you have 

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intention at the time to be a 
certain way, doesn't mean that 

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you owe them that forever 
either. 

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With with this and 1st ex is 
like there was a deep love 

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there. 
Even though it was really like 

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not meant to be. 
There was a deep love there, but

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looking back now, me and that 
person could not be more 

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different as individuals and not
in a good way, not in an 

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opposite subtract way in a we 
just don't like. 

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Now I understand why we're not 
friends because I wouldn't 

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choose that person as my friend.
And that's not even to say 

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because of the things that 
they've done or that the 

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mistakes in the relationship. 
Just as a person, we are so 

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fundamentally different, there'd
be no common ground for us. 

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Can I just quickly like I'm 
going to jump in and say like 

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complete opposite. 
Thank you on the on the complete

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opposite side of the spectrum, 
just because I'm friends right 

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with a couple of my exes and 
keep in touch and you know, it 

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doesn't mean that you can't say 
fuck you, you're a cunt. 

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I'm never speaking to you ever 
again and just cut them out of 

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your life because some people. 
Do hate to do that. 

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They do. 
They do hate to do that. 

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You've got issues with that. 
I. 

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Don't know we've got issues. 
Well, we already know that we're

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doing this is what we're trying 
to do that I, I, I think it is 

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because going back to my initial
point, you can slip in to best 

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friends. 
So the love. 

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I think friends, you fucking let
them go. 

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That's I don't. 
Think it's no, but you don't. 

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I think it's different because I
think a lot of straight couples 

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form best friend relationships 
with their friends as well. 

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I want to know what it is. 
Why does it agree? 

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Completely, there is the 
breakdown of girls nights and 

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boys nights. 
There's this whole thing in 

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Hetchinormative society where 
they're like the lads go and do 

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their things and the women go, 
go and do. 

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Their yeah, I get that. 
But what I'm saying I knew. 

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I don't understand that. 
You don't have that though, 

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which is why yours and lives 
relationship will be closer in 

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that sense because you don't 
have that toxic masculinity 

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where you're like, I want a 
fucking large night where I can 

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take shots of someone's burned 
and she's not desperate. 

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You know what a loads of you 
know. 

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What do you know what screams 
gay lads nights? 

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Yeah, it's gay it. 
Screams gay. 

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Heterosexual people do are like 
more best friends. 

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Like I don't know how. 
To listen. 

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OK Joe, what? 
I think you missed my point. 

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Now what I'm saying is, yes, 
lesbians definitely do make best

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friends with their girlfriends, 
right? 

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But I don't think that that is 
the reason as to why. 

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Why do you think the? 
Reason I'm trying to work it 

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out. 
I'm not saying that I know, but 

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what I'm saying is I don't think
that that is the solid reason. 

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I think it's more to do with 
like, there's almost like a 

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level of it probably goes back 
to what we were saying before 

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about not being any rules and 
relationships as much, but like 

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lesbian relationships and 
straight relationships. 

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We don't know what the fuck 
that. 

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Suppose it's not that thing 
where it's like done and over. 

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Yeah, but a divorce papers have 
been signed, but there's also a 

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lot of like similarities and a 
lot of solidarity with a lesbian

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partner because you go through 
so much with them. 

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Probably I would say more than 
what a straight couple with just

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generally. 
So I don't know if it's more of 

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like a lonely feeling that 
you're like, fuck, this person 

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isn't there anymore. 
And if you don't have like a 

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solid foundation around you, 
like how are you supposed to 

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deal with that? 
Like it's hard. 

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I think goes back to the thing 
that I've always said with you 

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girls about about I, I, and 
please correct me if I'm wrong 

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because, you know, obviously 
this is completely out of my 

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field and, and, but I do think 
that the connection that girls 

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have as friends, like two 
straight girls as friends is a 

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lot deeper than men have with. 
The yeah, 100%. 

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I actually, and I think that's 
because of toxic masculinity. 

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Do you know what I'm gonna do? 
I'm gonna message. 

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No, I'm gonna message both of my
answers right now. 

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And I'm gonna say, why do you 
think we're still friends? 

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I'm talking about it on the 
podcast. 

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So I'm doing it now, OK. 
You do that. 

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I'm so I live my life so, which 
isn't always correct, but I live

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my life so black and white and I
have my my thoughts on what I 

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think is right or wrong for 
myself and what I let into my 

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life and, and the people I let 
into my life that I don't really

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put things into a grey area, 
whereas I think Freya does. 

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But both of you, I think both of
you are like you've got so much 

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intelligence and I think that 
both of you deal with those that

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intelligence in different ways. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
So for me, I'm like, OK, it's 

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done. 
Like my second breakup, like it 

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was just so done. 
There was just nothing. 

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There was just nothing for me 
there that needed to stay, you 

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know, like and I imagine and I 
and I imagine it's probably the 

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same for that person. 
Like I don't think again, deep 

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down, like we had much in 
common. 

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I think we did she. 
Was more of like a transition 

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relationship. 
I think, yeah, I think looking 

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back now and I'll hold my hands 
up, I think it was like I, I was

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passing the emotion on from the 
1st to the 2nd and it really 

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wasn't intentional because I 
would have swore blind at the 

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time I was over my first 
girlfriend genuinely would of. 

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But looking back now, now I've 
matured a bit, I can definitely 

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see that. 
And yeah, I don't think me and 

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that person have just had any 
need to stay friends. 

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I, I have, no, I have no hate. 
Like if I saw that person out, 

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I'd like, I'd be nice. 
Like I, I, you know, I, I have, 

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no, I have, I have no hate 
towards either of my exes. 

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I have a lot of, I don't have a 
lot of time for the things that 

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happened, but I don't have any 
hate there. 

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But there was just no need for 
me to be friends with them. 

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Whereas like we've gone back to 
it like me and you, there would 

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be a lot of. 
Of similarities there, there'd 

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be a. 
Lot of needs to keep you in my 

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life for various like first of 
all, you'd still have to cook. 

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I was about to say, would I be 
cooking for you still? 

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100% I just if. 
You break up with me, get 

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fucked. 
Do you know what I would never? 

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And do you know what I would do 
to get back at you? 

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I would cook for the hottest 
girls ever and I would just post

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it every night. 
Just different meals, different 

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girls. 
That's fine, so I'll keep the 

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dog away from you. 
Oh, interesting, that isn't it. 

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Yeah, I'll keep the dog away 
from you and I'll never look 

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good. 
Good. 

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Good luck going out pulling all 
these hot girls. 

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Yeah, in your fucking creased, 
stinking clothes that you don't 

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know how to wash. 
You don't care how to. 

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No, they're not now, but they 
would be if I didn't do the 

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linen for you. 
No, you don't. 

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You don't know how to hang them.
And when you hang them, they 

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dry. 
Dacking shirt. 

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When I go out, I'll just wear a 
T-shirt. 

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That's fine, it still be 
creased. 

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Go out, try and pull these hot 
bitches in your creased Yankee 

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fucking clothes and cook them. 
Whatever. 

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You want I managed to pull you 
so. 

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You're on salt in yourself with 
your mum. 

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Yeah, she's holding yourself 
even faster. 

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Than you're washing. 
No she didn't. 

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Yes she did. 
Yes she did. 

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Call her up like chillies 
washing. 

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Call her up now and I already 
like chillies. 

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She did my washing. 
I did it all myself for it was 

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Jelly. 
Me. 

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It was Jelly, right? 
So. 

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Don't hold food over my head, 
Fred, 'cause it'll make me 

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really fucking. 
Angry. 

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I'll get those fucking cat boots
and I'm going to whack them 

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around your head in a minute. 
I'm going to. 

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Shove them up, you're fucking. 
Make it a promise. 

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Gaping vagina. 
Escaping. 

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So I asked. 
I asked both of my exes, I said,

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recording the podcast at the 
moment and talking about staying

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friends with your exes. 
Why do you think we've stayed 

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friends? 
Hashtag how? 

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Yeah. 
Come back. 

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One of them has so second ex has
come back already. 

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Fucking how? 
I thought it'd be the first one.

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So she came back straight away. 
I love this. 

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Good question. 
There was obviously a long 

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period of time where we weren't 
friends, which is what I said 

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before, which allowed us both to
heal and get perspective 

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simultaneously. 
We watched each other fall in 

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love again and be able to 
separate the person from the 

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past and build on that 
friendship because we didn't 

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carry grudges. 
And we at the bottom line is we 

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care about each other. 
That's a philosophical analysis.

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On a less serious note, I think 
you're calling girlfriends fit 

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fair. 
I'll take it, I'll take that. 

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And that's really. 
Interesting. 

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Actually, that's really funny 
because that is kind of what I 

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said that's. 
Beautiful, that is. 

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Really nice. 
That is amazing. 

447
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That was really nice thing to 
say. 

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Thank. 
You. 

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That's why you're still friends.
Yeah, Well, well. 

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That's the main. 
Thing for me right is that I 

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wouldn't stay friends with them 
if they were cunts. 

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I just couldn't. 
I also want to talk about that 

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because linked to that, if you 
then meet a girl who's still 

454
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520
friends with their ex, how do 
you navigate that? 

455
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480
Because this has obviously 
happened with me twice with 

456
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,440
Freya and I know that it would 
be bothersome for a lot of 

457
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,840
people to point. 
Of contention with every 

458
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,640
relationship. 
Yeah, 100%. 

459
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,960
But for me it wasn't because it 
was that whole thing of like, 

460
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,800
we're together now and I trust 
you. 

461
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,040
It's not down to me to decide 
who you can and cannot be 

462
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,520
friends with. 
Unless I thought those people 

463
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,280
were actively treating you badly
in our life now, your history 

464
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,080
has got nothing to do with me. 
I wasn't there. 

465
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,240
I couldn't comment if those 
people are being good to you 

466
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040
now. 
And that is a choice that you 

467
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760
make. 
I think it's got nothing. 

468
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,960
To support me somebody's 
decision, because at the end of 

469
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,440
the day, you can't change my 
decision. 

470
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,960
And also where you're at for a 
reason. 

471
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,200
So again, if you, if you that 
didn't work out for a reason, it

472
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800
doesn't take anything for me for
you to allow those people in 

473
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,720
their in your life. 
And I know a lot of people would

474
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,880
be like, well, what's the risk 
that they'll get back together? 

475
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,800
Well, then do it. 
Yeah, like, I'm not going to. 

476
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,040
But it's the same with 
everything. 

477
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,440
Stay with me. 
If you want to get back with 

478
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,640
your ex, fuck off and get back 
with them. 

479
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,760
Like, yeah, would I be 
heartbreaking? 

480
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,520
Yes, I would. 
But if anything, maybe you want.

481
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,080
To see them more. 
If somebody says you can't see 

482
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,880
them, I'm like, well, I've 
already said to you, I want to 

483
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,480
see them. 
You've now said that I can't. 

484
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,400
So now I really want to fucking 
go because you've tried to put 

485
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,040
control over me and I don't like
that. 

486
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,160
My mum wanted me to be straight 
and look how that turned out. 

487
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,000
She should have never asked for 
that. 

488
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080
It's all her fault. 
It is all her fault. 

489
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,760
I was like, oh, you want me to 
do straight? 

490
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,840
Disgusting. 
Yeah. 

491
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,440
So we haven't actually got 
anywhere with this conversation 

492
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200
in terms of like, we don't have 
the answers, I think. 

493
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
It's really good ideas. 
No, we've got we've, we've 

494
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,840
explored a lot of things. 
There's no conclusion here. 

495
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,560
I just think it's like, if it's 
right for you and you and that 

496
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,080
person are meant to be in each 
other's lives in a platonic way,

497
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,880
you'll find your way. 
And if not, you won't and you 

498
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,960
just wish them well and you 
carry on with your life. 

499
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,040
Someone commented on the TikTok 
tattoo thing of me rinsing you 

500
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,640
about the Emma Chamberlain 
tattoo. 

501
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,400
She obviously and was like, this
is coming from someone who got 

502
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,560
an unstoppable tramp stamp. 
Unstoppable. 

503
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,120
What is? 
Unforgettable someone. 

504
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,240
Thought you forgot it. 
Literally I forgot it. 

505
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,320
Someone come at me and was like 
this guy, like she's rinsing her

506
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,520
and she got an untouchable tramp
stamp. 

507
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320
Is it unforgettable? 
Oh fuck, now. 

508
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,560
And I was thinking a little 
cunt. 

509
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,960
Yeah, I did and BI wasn't 
rinsing the. 

510
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,560
Can I just clarify? 
I love phrase tattoos. 

511
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,880
That wasn't the point of the 
conversation. 

512
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320
That banter and yeah, they came.
What people do. 

513
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,560
You know what people don't seem 
to understand sometimes in the 

514
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,160
comments is our banter. 
Oh. 

515
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,320
My God, can you stop telling us 
we're toxic? 

516
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,320
We fucking know. 
Can. 

517
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920
I can. 
I clarify this being as I I 

518
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,200
spend most of my. 
You're this year third person. 

519
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160
I'm holding a water. 
This is our third. 

520
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600
Our third relationship is 
ourselves as well. 

521
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,800
It's Marcelo. 
Yeah, well, I can say safely 

522
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,360
it's definitely not toxic. 
They love each other in the 

523
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,200
world. 
And also like I think it it it. 

524
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360
Like so it's banner. 
Banner. 

525
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,800
But it also like. 
It adds just the. 

526
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,880
Crack you. 
Guys, it makes you guys happy. 

527
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Yeah, name Alice it. 
Makes you happy. 

528
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,600
Because we enjoy it. 
Malice intended. 

529
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,400
Not to speak, maybe like was is 
it better to sit there and just 

530
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,440
not talk or? 
You have a bit. 

531
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,880
Of fun and. 
Neither of you, but also never 

532
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,680
get hurt. 
No, no. 

533
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600
Both tough as nails. 
She'd fucking know if it hurt my

534
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,240
feelings as well. 
And then you would stop. 

535
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Yeah, but that's the thing. 
I don't like to be perceived as 

536
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,240
being like some little 
girlfriend of yours that's 

537
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,240
getting offended left, right 
and. 

538
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200
Also, can I just say. 
You went for that. 

539
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,200
I'm going to have to clip that. 
Also do. 

540
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,320
You know what? 
Scarlett doesn't start just 

541
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,400
really quickly. 
Whenever I edit these videos, it

542
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280
makes me laugh so much because 
the whole time I'm speaking, 

543
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,560
Scarlett's like this. 
She's just wait. 

544
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,640
She's not listening, she's just 
waiting for a chance to talk. 

545
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,280
Ohh, well that's funny because I
can relay probably every single 

546
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,400
thing you start. 
You said from the start of this.

547
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,880
You know, Podcast today said it 
all before and you know it. 

548
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,160
People think that I rule the 
roost, but you actually in some 

549
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,880
sense rule the roost. 
You do, because I'll be quite 

550
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,600
like Bang Bang, Bang, but like, 
I will come off the ledge quite 

551
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,360
quick. 
Yes, you. 

552
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,120
Can get a little bit more like 
calculated with like your your 

553
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,960
shit and I'm like fuck, she's 
gonna come for me and I actually

554
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,640
poo my pants a little bit. 
You'll admit when you're wrong 

555
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,640
in 10 seconds. 
Yeah, you know what as well with

556
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,320
me. 
She. 

557
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,000
Doesn't because because she OK, 
so listen here because. 

558
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,200
And I don't have to because. 
I don't in 10 seconds a lot of 

559
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,360
the time because I'm not the 
handle as quickly as you, right?

560
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,200
You're always on the edge, 
right? 

561
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680
You're always up here. 
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, 

562
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080
Ding, Ding. 
Because I'm not up here, it 

563
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,280
means that. 
This fucking IPA I am trash. 

564
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:28,960
So, so as soon, so as soon as I 
as soon as I tell anyone off or 

565
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,400
anything happens, people take it
way worse when it comes from me 

566
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,560
because like it's not the norm 
and I fucking mean it. 

567
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Whereas you fly off the handle 
all the time. 

568
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,520
So people are like, Oh, I need. 
To sort that out because I want 

569
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,880
to be taken seriously. 
Can I? 

570
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,480
I would like an example where 
Scarlet's flown off the handle 

571
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,600
without without obvious, you 
know, agitation or reason. 

572
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,640
God, the last 24 hours, what's 
up? 

573
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Could I just say? 
So Liv has noticed, Liv has 

574
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,280
witnessed this happen. 
Is it can be little things. 

575
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,880
So it's like, say, for instance,
we'll be like. 

576
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320
Keep your mouth. 
In the car and I'll ask a little

577
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,120
something and be like, OK, babe,
can we just like we were, we 

578
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,800
were outside this pub that I 
really wanted to go to. 

579
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,040
It was really busy outside. 
No listen, it was really busy 

580
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,400
outside. 
So I so I want to stay outside 

581
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,760
the pub for like a second in the
car just to see if anyone was 

582
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600
going to move. 
We literally because she hadn't 

583
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
even stopped the car, right? 
So I was like, OK, can we just 

584
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,760
have a quick look Freya, it's 
going to be busy. 

585
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000
No one's going to move and I 
want to fucking have a pint and 

586
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,800
I don't want her to sit here and
I got the dog. 

587
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200
What am I supposed to do with 
the fucking dog anyway? 

588
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,160
So straight away, right, she's 
flown off the handle over 

589
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,520
something that is so minimal, so
minor. 

590
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,960
OK. 
And you go off on what? 

591
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,920
OK, let me come back with this. 
Thank you. 

592
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Freya has very much my way or 
the highway, so if Freya. 

593
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,280
Wants to go. 
That's not true. 

594
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Shut up. 
I let you speak. 

595
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,480
That is category. 
Untrue my way or the highway a 

596
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,360
lot of the time. 
So she decides she really wants 

597
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:02,560
to go somewhere she'll try and 
make it happen right. 

598
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,880
So we went past this pub. 
She really wanted to go there. 

599
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,000
I wanted to go there as well. 
When we initially drove past it 

600
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240
was quite empty outside. 
So I was like great we can go 

601
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,080
and get our friend we can come 
back to this pub. 

602
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,680
I have been to this pub a lot 
more than Freya and she's like, 

603
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:24,160
I used to go message Caroline 
Davidson right fucking now and 

604
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,400
ask her how many times we used 
to go to that pub before I was 

605
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
with you. 
Ask her messenger. 

606
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,760
No, she hasn't. 
Messenger. 

607
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Carry on, Messenger. 
Carry on. 

608
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,240
I have been to this pub a lot 
more times than Freya and I know

609
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,600
that when the clock strikes like
basically 5:00 it. 

610
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Gets. 
Round straight away. 

611
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,800
So as we pulled back round to 
this pub I could see from a 

612
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,080
distance all of the seats were 
full and because we had the dog 

613
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
up with us we didn't want to sit
inside anyway. 

614
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,480
So I was like it's full out, 
it's full outside, like where 

615
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,320
should we go? 
Fred doesn't answer me, and I'm 

616
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
like Freya because I know she 
still wants to go in there, 

617
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,440
which is fair enough, but we 
can't because all the fucking 

618
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880
seats are full and I know. 
And people are going to stay 

619
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,080
there as well because they've 
just turned out. 

620
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Because it's whether you. 
Have this opinion or not, I'm 

621
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
not. 
Saying like, we're fucking going

622
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440
because you then stand there and
look at me because you still 

623
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,160
want to go in there. 
So you'd rather sit and wait in 

624
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,200
the car and it's like, let's. 
Just go through seconds. 

625
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,160
I'm not saying that your opinion
was wrong, but what I'm saying 

626
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,520
is your delivery can be. 
Your delivery is what offends me

627
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,960
and what fucking annoys me and 
makes me want to smash your 

628
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,840
skinny little ass into. 
Oh my God, the ice lolly 

629
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320
incident. 
OK, so this actually upset Liv. 

630
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960
So the other day I was out and 
about getting picking up 

631
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Scarlett's antibiotics for her 
strep throat, right whilst I'm 

632
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,880
out. 
I had to wait because the the 

633
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,640
pharmacist was actually on a 
lunch break. 

634
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,320
So I was like, well, I'm not 
gonna go home, I'm just gonna 

635
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,160
poop it around. 
And I was on the phone to live 

636
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080
I'm. 
Fucking coming for you for this 

637
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,080
episode the whole time I fucking
AM. 

638
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,440
The whole time I was walking 
around talking to them, I went 

639
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,080
to go get myself a coffee. 
Then I went into M&S 'cause I 

640
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960
just remembered that the doctor 
had said previously, make sure 

641
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520
you're like sucking on like an 
isolated. 

642
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,840
That was just in my head. 
I'm not saying that I don't 

643
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,560
already know this sensory issue 
of yours, OK? 

644
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
But in my head, I was thinking 
of what the doctor said, and I 

645
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,440
was thinking of something that 
was gonna calm your throat down.

646
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,440
So I purchased a coconut lime 
ice lolly from M&S and then I 

647
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,800
took it home already. 
Watering, and not in a good way,

648
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,560
because. 
My feet. 

649
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,160
I took it. 
Home burning right now because I

650
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,040
have such bad sensory. 
I took it home with your 

651
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,360
medication, with some other bits
that I bought you from Boots to 

652
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
help you out right which? 
I was very. 

653
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Grateful. 
And then as soon as I put the 

654
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,720
ice lollies on there, Scarlett 
acted like I'd just gotten a 

655
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040
fucking dead cat and placed it 
on the bed. 

656
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,440
You reacted so badly and so 
vicious and shouted at me just 

657
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,200
for buying you those ice lollies
because you're. 

658
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Sensory just now handed. 
It was out of order. 

659
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Yeah right it was. 
But I've been really ill for 

660
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,960
days and I. 
Managed to shout though, didn't 

661
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,600
you? 
Sore throat, yeah. 

662
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Didn't have a problem with 
shouting to swallow. 

663
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,080
But not shout. 
Yeah, so liver's on the other 

664
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
end of the bone. 
That I have like I literally 

665
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800
can't even bear to watch someone
eating ice lolly like it's so 

666
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,400
bad it makes me want to throw up
do. 

667
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,280
This on the next podcast. 
Like I can't even. 

668
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Think about it makes. 
Me gag like I'm actually 

669
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800
sweating I'm sweating now I'm 
actually sweating and thinking 

670
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,720
about it so I'm really ill in 
bed and Freya just chat yeah you

671
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640
don't understand like my. 
Teeth are hurting, I know so 

672
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,480
when she. 
Chucks a bag of ice lollies on 

673
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,480
the beds. 
Yeah, it makes me furious. 

674
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440
I'm not saying it's rational. 
I never once said it was 

675
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,680
rational. 
But in that moment in my brain, 

676
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,720
I was like, you know how much I 
hate. 

677
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,600
I couldn't be about to cry. 
I could be dying and someone 

678
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480
could say to me. 
It really is a level strong. 

679
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Dying. 
Knees. 

680
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,120
I could be dying and someone 
could say. 

681
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Lollies on a sweater. 
Already it will save your life. 

682
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,320
And I would not eat the ice 
lolly, OK? 

683
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680
You wouldn't save my life for 
having. 

684
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,360
No, I don't. 
My life. 

685
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,360
I fucking certainly would save 
yours. 

686
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080
No, even less. 
You're joking. 

687
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,280
You're fucking joking. 
I'm not fucking joking. 

688
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,160
I probably take a nibble for 
Ziggy. 

689
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,920
That is it. 
So you wouldn't you wouldn't 

690
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
suck on an ice lolly, would I 
say? 

691
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680
But yeah, well, you wanted. 
To. 

692
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160
I don't. 
You wanted. 

693
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160
To fuck off as well in the 
corner. 

694
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,000
Yeah, well, Liv was just trying 
to help me thinking of a 

695
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,920
scenario. 
Do you know when you and assy to

696
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,520
me is on you've? 
Done. 

697
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,480
Nothing, Liv. 
You've started to do this thing 

698
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,880
now, but Freya hates me singing.
No, I don't hate you singing. 

699
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,680
Whilst I hate is that whenever I
start singing, whenever I 

700
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,040
whenever I start singing to 
something, she has to sing 10 

701
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,280
decibels higher than I do, so 
louder. 

702
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,880
When she starts singing it 
excites me. 

703
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Then I start singing a great but
but then you have a go at me. 

704
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640
I don't have a go at you. 
Ruin the song, because you'll 

705
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,800
be. 
Trying to sing along to 

706
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,640
something and then all of a 
sudden I hear and so much and 

707
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,600
I'm like Oh my fucking God. 
Well, it's not my fault that 

708
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,120
you're meant to be the 
professional singer and I can 

709
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,280
belt. 
You don't. 

710
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Belt, you shout. 
Oh, it's not the same. 

711
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Tell me that when I was singing 
in the Kitchen by Renee Brown 

712
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,400
singing you said I no sing it. 
Go on, go. 

713
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,720
And you said I absolutely. 
Sing it and I'll manage to 

714
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Renee. 
Sing it No. 1st dates Oh and how

715
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,360
right you guys have asked us a 
lot of times how do you like 

716
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,200
approach women, have successful 
first dates, find women, et 

717
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,800
cetera, et cetera. 
As we mentioned earlier, I don't

718
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
know why you'd be asking last 
night Freya, I feel like you've 

719
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
got better wrist than me and I 
will give that to. 

720
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,440
You. 
Thank you, baby. 

721
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Freya. 
Has. 

722
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Freya's got. 
The I'm just like, I think The 

723
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,280
thing is, is that I've just, I'm
just you're a flirty person, but

724
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,960
I'm even more of a flirty 
person. 

725
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760
I think I'm just very tactile, 
whereas you're not tactile as a 

726
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
like I'm very touchy feely, just
naturally. 

727
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,320
So I kind of feel confident when
I meet women. 

728
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120
I think that's what it comes 
down to is confidence in 

729
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480
yourself because like you really
have nothing to lose. 

730
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,160
You can go on a date. 
What are you actually going to 

731
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,040
lose if it goes wrong? 
How do you? 

732
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360
OK, no, but that's not. 
How do you approach the date? 

733
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,800
How do you get there and 
approach? 

734
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Someone in a bar. 
That's what. 

735
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,560
People want to. 
Know it is confidence. 

736
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,360
So my advice on this would be 
the reason why I think we, well,

737
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,440
the reason why I think we 
attract a lot of people is 

738
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,960
because we own who we are. 
Yeah, straight up. 

739
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:30,719
So we leave no room for apology,
and we wear ourselves of 

740
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,679
confidence and we wear our 
queerness with confidence. 

741
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,360
But it goes the same thing as 
what I just said. 

742
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,320
If you've got confidence and you
go over and you like compliment 

743
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080
someone so like you can not the 
fuck. 

744
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Boy lesbian. 
Not no, no, no, no. 

745
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000
But you're just confident in 
yourself as a person, right? 

746
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,239
You can turn around and then you
can say, sorry, I just wanted to

747
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,239
say you're you're so stunning. 
Or like you can say something 

748
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,080
like this. 
Think about find something about

749
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,400
them or be like, I love like 
your eyes or whatever it is. 

750
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,840
It can be anything. 
And like I do this even now, 

751
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,480
like to like get friends. 
I'm like, I like you go over to 

752
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,160
them and you compliment them, 
but say I just want to know 

753
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
like, Oh, I love that jacket or 
like whatever it could be. 

754
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,440
Your rizz is why your rizz is 
genius in my opinion, Freya, 

755
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,800
it's because it comes from both 
angles, from both a. 

756
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Friendly. 
Or we could be. 

757
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,480
You know, yes, she's trapping. 
You, you're trapped. 

758
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,440
But can I say? 
I think something that we should

759
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960
point out is that I think you 
guys go up to the people more 

760
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,240
than people come up to you. 
So it's like just so it's like 

761
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,720
in case anyone says, oh, but you
know, you're both. 

762
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,840
No, yeah, we got to them, I 
would say. 

763
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,960
That you guys go up to more 
people than people come up. 

764
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,800
To you, although we don't go up.
OK, listen. 

765
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Yeah, we don't. 
We don't go up unintentional 

766
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120
eventually. 
So there could be like, a lot of

767
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,720
looking across the room and you 
kind of catch eyes a few times 

768
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,200
and then you go over and you're 
like, yeah, hey. 

769
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,520
And then you just, like, have a 
chat. 

770
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
And again, is you. 
I started off very, like, 

771
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,360
friendly. 
And then you gauge if that 

772
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,520
person is a bit flirty because 
you can do a few things like 

773
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600
touch their arm when you're 
talking to them or something. 

774
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,200
The way that somebody reacts 
with their body shows you 

775
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,960
whether they want it to be 
flirty or not. 

776
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,000
I feel like you need to let, if 
you don't already know how to 

777
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,520
read people, you really need to 
learn. 

778
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,120
Yeah. 
Reading body language. 

779
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Yeah, I would never say it out 
of turn. 

780
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,880
So like if I genuinely didn't 
think that they were beautiful, 

781
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,560
I would never got someone just 
to try and raise them up. 

782
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,880
You're beautiful. 
No, I just wouldn't do it. 

783
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,760
But. 
It's very honest. 

784
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,560
We walked into a bar and there 
was like a fucking beautiful 

785
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,920
person in there. 
And we much straight up and 

786
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,720
we're like, you're beautiful. 
And like could tell that that 

787
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,040
was very well received. 
Whereas sometimes people are 

788
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,760
like, oh, thanks. 
I'm like, OK, there's like, 

789
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960
there's no like, there's no like
conversation to be had here. 

790
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,960
I mean, we're saying this like 
me and you were out pulling. 

791
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,040
We're not. 
No, no. 

792
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,240
I think, though, you're for 
friends, yeah. 

793
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,720
Yeah, yeah. 
Like, yeah, like we're 

794
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,680
constantly like networking in a 
way, I suppose, like building 

795
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,520
like a not that's the wrong way 
of putting. 

796
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,160
It like me and you are always 
very open to new. 

797
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,360
Friends. 
We're always very open to new 

798
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
friends like we love. 
Yeah, we love. 

799
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,760
Meeting people and I think. 
It's why you know people, you 

800
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,840
just. 
Gain so many different 

801
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,200
experiences with different 
people and I love introducing my

802
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360
older friends with my newer 
friends and getting everyone 

803
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,760
together and just like having a 
laugh. 

804
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Because about community, which 
is the whole reason you started 

805
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640
this podcast. 
Yeah, exactly. 

806
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Although we are, we did make our
fucking huge faux pas with two 

807
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,360
of our friends a few months ago.
And we're actually going to get 

808
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,240
them on the podcast because 
they're like, their story's 

809
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,040
very, very interesting. 
And I know that they will not be

810
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,600
the only ones where we assumed 
something big about them that 

811
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,960
wasn't true. 
Yeah. 

812
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Oh. 
And then after sitting down and,

813
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,280
like, being quite outward about 
this assumption for at least 

814
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,880
half an hour, found out that we 
were entirely wrong. 

815
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,120
And when I told you, I wanted 
the ground to swallow me up. 

816
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,920
So yeah, I think, like, just 
just approaching it with 

817
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
confidence. 
And I think these days as well, 

818
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
like, you don't know who's gay. 
You don't know who's not. 

819
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,840
I mean, sometimes there's subtle
signs, sometimes there isn't. 

820
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,760
You know, there's lots of 
straight passing, straight 

821
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,200
passing girls out there. 
Girls that you don't have. 

822
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,080
The fucking caravan is on and 
the Doctor Martins and the baggy

823
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,000
jeans and the my desk. 
Can we actually do a nipple 

824
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,080
piercing, invent a sign? 
Should we invent a sign as part 

825
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,920
of the podcast that is like the 
lesbian sign? 

826
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120
You do this fucking sign. 
It's a Caribbean. 

827
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,440
It's a Caribbean. 
A bit like a hand sign or 

828
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
because a lot of some. 
Everyone just buys lesbian 

829
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,200
supper club tote bags when they 
come out. 

830
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:23,720
Just carry them around with you 
every. 

831
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,240
If that ain't a fucking sign, I 
don't know. 

832
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,040
What, or a lesbian supper club 
signet ring? 

833
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:34,560
Or a lesbian supper club lighter
so the Lezos, the lesbians can 

834
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,200
go out in the smoking area. 
I was always looking for a 

835
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,240
lighter. 
Here's my lighter. 

836
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Oh, cool. 
Lighter. 

837
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Oh, thanks. 
Do you listen to this gay 

838
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,280
podcast, The Lesbian Soccer 
Club? 

839
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,680
Oh, yeah, I do. 
Or. 

840
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,200
Oh, my God, no. 
I can't believe I heard about 

841
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,680
it. 
I love gay podcasts. 

842
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,160
There you go. 
There you go, sorted. 

843
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,480
It's like a Zippo but lesbian 
soccer. 

844
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,320
Club. 
Yeah, it's red. 

845
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,280
Yeah, red one with LS like an 
embossed. 

846
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
LSD and then you can walk around
with that. 

847
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Yeah. 
And even if you don't smoke, 

848
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,640
have it. 
Smashed. 

849
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Yeah, smashed it, yeah, so. 
But also, sorry, just really 

850
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:12,200
quickly just going back on that,
loads of like loads of women 

851
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560
always worry that like they are 
just going to come across as 

852
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,840
friendly and it's just going to 
be like a friendly vibe. 

853
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,840
What I would say back to that is
if there is no obvious chemistry

854
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,640
right, then why would you want 
it anyway? 

855
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Also if you're wondering just 
fucking ask, what can they say 

856
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,000
is they can either say just say 
no fine, or they can say no in a

857
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480
bit be a bit homophobic. 
Then you will then fuck. 

858
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,440
Off, but like you don't really 
have anything to lose. 

859
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,680
I know it. 
I know it can be quite 

860
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,600
uncomfortable. 
But this is where, again, I 

861
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,400
think me and you, like we've 
reached a point where we're so 

862
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,640
comfortable in who we are, there
is nothing anyone can say that 

863
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,720
would offend. 
Me, that in me. 

864
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,640
But when they say that they're 
straight, I'm like, oh, OK. 

865
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,400
Oh. 
That's embarrassing. 

866
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,640
But yeah, no, I'm joking. 
I just, you just, yeah. 

867
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Project, I think like just being
confident. 

868
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Pardon. 
We do. 

869
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,400
Yeah. 
Everyone wants to woo woo. 

870
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,320
Exactly. 
Yeah, and then first dates. 

871
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
This is a hard one because 
everyone's different. 

872
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,240
Some people want to do an 
activity, some people want to go

873
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:13,440
and just have a drink and get a 
bit pissed. 

874
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,360
Some people want to do the 
formal dinner. 

875
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,800
Do you know what? 
I'm always a drink. 

876
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,440
Girl, I'm always a drink girl. 
I was sold the other day though 

877
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,400
by this guy telling me how he 
prefers a coffee date. 

878
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,640
So for me I was like fuck no. 
Will I be seen sat down with a 

879
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,640
coffee with a girl when I want 
to be able to relax, have a 

880
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,000
drink, have a bit of a laugh, 
right? 

881
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,920
And he said, I totally get that.
However, you are letting them 

882
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,440
see you're like, you are being 
able to not only identify what 

883
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,400
they're like, but they're able 
to identify exactly what you're 

884
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,840
like, right? 
And if that coffee date goes 

885
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,560
well, it can turn into a drink 
or it can end. 

886
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:52,040
But for me, I would rather, 
personally, I would rather go 

887
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,720
out for a drink. 
I'd have a backup plan on me. 

888
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,440
So like a friend of mine has to 
call with a fucking crisis at 

889
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,440
any point. 
I mean, I don't feel like those 

890
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,600
are believable anymore, but 
yeah, so many people do it. 

891
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,760
Now, and well, they. 
Do always say in a frank order 

892
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,240
of a crisis, I bet. 
Well, OK, this. 

893
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,400
Is OK, but what I would also say
is when, when are you lot going 

894
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,320
to learn right from the other 
end of the spectrum. 

895
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,880
So not the person who has to 
have the crisis call right, but 

896
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,480
the other person. 
When are you going to learn that

897
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,440
that somebody isn't into your 
other day isn't going well? 

898
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Yeah, because I don't think this
happens with. 

899
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000
That's usually men who just 
don't see it, like our friends a

900
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,800
lot. 
Of no, I think it happens with a

901
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,160
lot of lesbians as. 
Well, really. 

902
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Yeah. 
OK. 

903
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Interesting. 
I So let me tell you why I still

904
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,160
wouldn't go for a coffee date, 
because I get the point where I 

905
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,720
was like, yeah, it could turn 
into a drink. 

906
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,040
No, I want to go home. 
I want to scram some food. 

907
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600
I want to refresh my makeup. 
I probably want to change your 

908
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,640
clothes. 
True, I want to. 

909
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Go out and feel as I. 
I hate that. 

910
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,560
I hate I. 
Don't I always feel my best 

911
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,000
drinking for that reason? 
No, I always feel my best though

912
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,680
once I've had longer to get 
ready like agreed and like be in

913
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,160
my night time. 
I wouldn't feel relaxed because 

914
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,600
like for me, going from one to 
the other, that no that. 

915
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Would I also feel like the Viber
sexier on a drink deck? 

916
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,320
Agreed I. 
I think it's. 

917
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,440
I mean, I think it's as simple 
as just like going for a drink 

918
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840
for an hour at the end of your 
day with somebody that doesn't 

919
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280
work out, not a big deal. 
Spending an hour in the middle 

920
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,480
of your day takes up a little, a
big, a much more a big chunk of 

921
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,840
your day because you've got to 
think about it. 

922
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200
After get. 
Ready before Yeah, and it just. 

923
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,800
Yeah, yeah, especially Yeah, no,
I agree. 

924
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,200
Actually, yeah, this is. 
No, I'm no, I say go, no, go 

925
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,880
for, go for a drink or dinner. 
I don't care. 

926
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,400
I wouldn't want to. 
Add the book Reading lesbians. 

927
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Oh God. 
Well, count me out. 

928
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Yeah, don't fucking invite me to
your library club. 

929
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,520
I don't want to come first 
dates. 

930
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,320
I think just get to know the 
person a bit before and again, 

931
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,040
just ask the question. 
Don't pussyfoot around. 

932
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,840
Yeah. 
Do you want to go for a drink? 

933
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Do you want to do dinner? 
Do you want to do an activity 

934
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,440
especially? 
And it's not say what you don't 

935
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,000
like. 
If that person says I want to go

936
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,480
roller skating and you're like 
me and you're fucking at risk of

937
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,400
slipping a disc, say no, I'm at 
risk of slipping a disc. 

938
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,200
I'm not going roller skating 
with you. 

939
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Can we just go and get piss 
please? 

940
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
So, yeah, so lesbians, if you 
have anything like more 

941
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,280
specifically talking about 
dating, we'd love to hear it as 

942
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,920
well because there might be 
something that we're missing. 

943
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,440
We haven't. 
Dated. 

944
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
We haven't. 
Dated in ages but we do like 

945
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,280
friend dating which is just as 
scary sometimes. 

946
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,440
So you can actually practise 
going out and picking up friend 

947
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,400
dates if you feel like you. 
If you feel like you don't have 

948
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,360
much experience in this realm, 
maybe try something a little bit

949
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,840
easier, like going up to someone
and becoming their friend, You 

950
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,040
know, if you're really shy. 
Don't do it just practising for 

951
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,480
romance, do it for platonic 
relationships as well. 

952
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Exactly right. 
Moving on now to the Horror 

953
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Story. 
So this person wrote in and said

954
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920
hi, love the podcast. 
Thank you by the way. 

955
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,840
So Horror Story for the pod. 
And by the way, sorry if my 

956
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,760
English is terrible, I am 
Swedish and dyslexic. 

957
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,560
That's fine. 
We love a dyslexic queen, I 

958
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,120
fancy. 
Love the Swedish as well. 

959
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,240
We love the Swedes. 
I found this cute woman at a gay

960
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:04,200
club and we hit it off, started 
making out and everything was 

961
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,880
great. 
So we went to her place and had 

962
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
a very very nice and steamy 
night. 

963
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,320
We fell asleep for a couple of 
hours just to wake up and 

964
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960
continue. 
Classic that is classic. 

965
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,080
There's classic lesbians. 
On the first date, in the middle

966
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,400
of sex, me between her legs, her
screaming, her fucking husband 

967
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,560
came in. 
I did not know she was married 

968
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,360
and the guy was fuming so angry,
flipping furnitures and 

969
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,120
threatening me. 
One of the scariest moments of 

970
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,960
my life. 
Great sex though, so worth it I 

971
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,040
guess. 
Oh my God. 

972
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Next message I would like to be 
kept anonymous. 

973
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,880
That is fine. 
That is for Oh my God. 

974
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,400
I actually haven't read it so 
like I just had it as a 

975
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,680
screenshot. 
What the fuck? 

976
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,720
Yeah, iconic. 
Iconic. 

977
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,880
How do you deal with that? 
We don't advocate cheating. 

978
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,760
I. 
Do. 

979
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,040
But so I have a problem. 
So. 

980
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,160
So we were talking about this 
the other day. 

981
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,760
You cannot continuously treat 
someone like a piece of shit and

982
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:16,640
expect them to not find care, 
love, and affection somewhere 

983
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,360
else somewhere else. 
So I don't condone cheating if. 

984
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,120
You're However, if this was 
rookie, Yeah, this was very 

985
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,840
rookie, baby, you should have 
been more careful. 

986
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,760
No, no, not the. 
No, the wife. 

987
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,920
The wife, yeah. 
Why? 

988
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,720
Why were they in their house? 
Are you joking? 

989
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,360
She. 
Probably wanted him to find out.

990
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Maybe. 
Maybe she couldn't tell him and 

991
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
she just wanted him to find out.
Maybe she knew she was gay, 

992
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,800
didn't want to tell him. 
So she was like, actually, I'd 

993
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,360
rather you just fucking caught 
me. 

994
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,200
That's also so iconic. 
Why is that hot? 

995
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,760
The what the problem that I have
with this is him going mad 

996
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,960
straight away and flipping 
tables in front of this poor 

997
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,880
woman, right? 
Because she didn't know she. 

998
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,400
Didn't know, it's not her fault.
Also, even if she did know and I

999
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,440
hold this and people may 
disagree, if you're single you 

1000
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,320
can do what the fuck you. 
Want. 

1001
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,480
Yeah, You don't know it to 
anyone. 

1002
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,880
It's not, it's like it's the 
person who's in the 

1003
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080
relationship, it's up to them to
make the decisions on their 

1004
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200
relationships. 
It's up to them to make 

1005
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,360
decisions as an adult. 
It's not your, it's not your 

1006
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,320
problem to carry. 
So I hate it when these things 

1007
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,360
happen. 
People cheat. 

1008
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160
It happens all the fucking time.
Like it's one of those things 

1009
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,120
that happens all the time. 
And our friends actually gave a 

1010
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,720
really good, there's an actual 
psychological study on this and 

1011
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,320
I've mentioned it previously and
I need, we really need to talk 

1012
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
about which is the 2 year, the 
serotonin depth thing. 

1013
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Serotonin, which is like there's
been there's been a whole study 

1014
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,280
done on it, but you where if 
you've been cheated on and I 

1015
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,920
like I've done it in the past, 
I've gone marred and it like 

1016
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,280
that person, you can decide that
is not a good person and you 

1017
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,080
don't want them in your life. 
You obviously don't ever 

1018
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840
probably want to be around 
someone who your fucking 

1019
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,240
partner's cheated on you with, 
but to blame them? 

1020
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,960
I personally think it's wrong 
because that person, unless they

1021
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,720
were your friend or related to 
you in some way, or someone 

1022
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,120
completely detached nothing to 
do with them, it's got nothing 

1023
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,920
to do. 
With them, it's not their 

1024
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,800
responsibility. 
No, you can dislike them and you

1025
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,440
can actively not want them in 
your life. 

1026
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,760
You can't blame them. 
You can think, but it's it's not

1027
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
their problem. 
But I do genuinely think that 

1028
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,560
that the other partner that's 
been cheated on though, will 

1029
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,520
automatically just find anger 
everywhere and they will start 

1030
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,000
to blame that other person 
because they feel so heartbroken

1031
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,400
by their loved one that they 
could do that to them, that 

1032
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,080
they'll be like, well, fuck, 
it's the other person then. 

1033
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,800
Yeah. 
But yeah. 

1034
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,560
But going back to the actual 
story itself, Jesus fucking 

1035
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Christ, I would have shipped. 
I mean, I love the fact, though,

1036
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920
that she went back and was like,
but it was hot though, so it's 

1037
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,720
worth it. 
Worth it if it was worth it. 

1038
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:37,560
Love that. 
Thank you. 

1039
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,720
Fuck, the sex was good. 
Yeah. 

1040
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:40,960
Can you imagine if the sex was 
she? 

1041
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,280
Imagine she was doing a bit of 
charity work and then he caught 

1042
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,920
them fucking. 
You'd be more embarrassed than 

1043
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,760
anything, wouldn't you? 
You'd be like, actually, do you 

1044
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,840
know what, Ava, Ava, I don't 
even. 

1045
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,960
Want it Different accents? 
While she's. 

1046
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,200
While she's doing all the 
different accents, yeah, that, I

1047
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,960
mean, it's iconic. 
It is iconic. 

1048
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,800
It's a great story. 
See, now I'm a massive advocate 

1049
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,800
for the good story. 
I've also don't feel better to 

1050
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360
sleep with a married woman. 
It's a bit of a kink. 

1051
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,120
It is a bit of a kink, yeah. 
I mean, I don't have any advice 

1052
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,000
on that one. 
There isn't any advice, no. 

1053
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,960
It's just. 
Like it's just a great story. 

1054
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
I think that man's a cunt. 
Yeah, I mean, I think he reacted

1055
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,920
way too high. 
Furniture I'll have. 

1056
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Pathetic. 
You know what he was probably 

1057
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,440
more upset about? 
He's putting the poor. 

1058
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,200
Girl on that was a woman. 
No, but I yeah, he was 

1059
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,200
dangerous, but also he's 
probably upset that she was 

1060
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,800
making her scream and he's 
probably never done that. 

1061
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,840
You're upset, Go toss a little 
table. 

1062
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,880
You just go into the story 
quickly, which I know doesn't 

1063
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,320
relate to the Horror Story, but 
this, this serotonin. 

1064
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:38,800
Sorry. 
Yeah. 

1065
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,880
So basically our friends, our 
friend Elle's found this out and

1066
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,640
posted it and I found it really 
interesting. 

1067
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,640
So there's basically been a 
study done because cheating is 

1068
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,640
very common. 
It is so common. 

1069
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Oh yeah, it's super common. 
I don't. 

1070
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,720
Know how common it is but I 
would probably take whatever 

1071
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:59,240
percentage there is and add 10 
to 20% on top because people 

1072
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,680
will be lying about it. 
It's very common and apparently 

1073
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,720
a study has been done recently. 
I can't reference it because she

1074
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:07,960
just posted it and I don't 
remember the reference, but it 

1075
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,520
was basically about they're 
trying to work out like why this

1076
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,440
is and it's come back to like 
literal biology. 

1077
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
So apparently what happens is, 
as we all know, when you meet 

1078
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,960
someone, you're in honeymoon 
moon phase. 

1079
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,840
You don't know any wrongs about 
this person because everyone's 

1080
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,440
got them. 
You see all the positives. 

1081
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,160
You're having mad crazy sex all 
the time. 

1082
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,920
It's fucking great. 
Then the routine starts to kick 

1083
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,280
in, but you're still super 
happy. 

1084
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,640
You think you found your person.
Like everything's good. 

1085
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Apparently as you hit the two 
year mark, your serotonin starts

1086
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,520
to drop. 
So you're when you meet someone 

1087
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,400
you that serotonin really high. 
That's why you feel fucking 

1088
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,760
amazing. 
That's why probably you think 

1089
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,760
the sex is incredible blah blah 
blah blah blah. 

1090
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,280
You reach the two year mark and 
it literally drops. 

1091
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,600
And that statistically is when 
people cheat is around 2 years 

1092
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,320
because the the serotonin's 
dropped. 

1093
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,880
You start to probably maybe find
out that that person isn't 

1094
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,440
everything you thought they 
were. 

1095
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,520
The flaws really start to show 
and you go and look for that 

1096
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,640
increase elsewhere. 
So it's not even to do with it's

1097
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440
not necessarily to do the other 
person, it's not to do with you 

1098
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,240
not loving them. 
It's literal biology that you're

1099
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,320
kind of animalistic side goes. 
I want that hit back. 

1100
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,760
It's like a drug. 
Yeah. 

1101
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
And I'm going to go and try and 
find it, which I just found so 

1102
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,480
interesting because. 
But people see those are too 

1103
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,480
small to let someone if they 
feel like they wanted that 

1104
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,080
serotonin boost or get it with 
the partner or whatever it might

1105
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,800
be or to have that conversation.
This comes back to so many 

1106
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,680
previous episodes, doesn't it? 
It's like the sad thing is as 

1107
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,040
well, the society that we live 
in, being able to be honest 

1108
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,280
about that. 
Is forbidden. 

1109
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Then they go behind the bang. 
You cheat. 

1110
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,560
Yeah. 
Whereas actually, if we lived in

1111
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,280
a more progressive, open 
society, you'd be able to say, 

1112
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,800
look, I feel like we've hit the 
two year mark. 

1113
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,640
We've hit a bump in the road. 
The relationship doesn't feel as

1114
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,320
fun anymore. 
What can we do? 

1115
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,960
I think we've got some 
communication issues, but you're

1116
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,040
my person. 
How do we work through this? 

1117
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,400
People don't know how to have 
those conversations because we 

1118
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,240
haven't been taught and we've 
been told it's bad. 

1119
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,480
Yeah. 
So they cheat. 

1120
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,560
Yeah. 
And that's almost acceptable as 

1121
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,840
well. 
I mean, if we think about like 

1122
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,640
celebrity culture and stuff, 
like people cheat all the time, 

1123
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,160
it becomes like a kind of 
frantic news story and then 

1124
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,880
everyone just gets over it, 
which fine, I like. 

1125
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,840
I think there's different layers
to cheating. 

1126
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,720
Some I think are fucking 
disgraceful, Some I think. 

1127
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,880
So for me, like I used to work 
in sales with a bunch of men, 

1128
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,480
right? 
And like a lot of them were 

1129
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,360
married, 98% of them were 
cheating. 

1130
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Yeah, the wives never knew. 
So yeah, the majority of them, 

1131
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,080
all of them was taught. 
And if they didn't outwardly 

1132
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,080
tell me, another one would say, 
Oh yeah, so and so has got 

1133
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,280
prostitutes this weekend. 
So he they'd come in and buy 

1134
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,760
like a gift for the wife and 
gift for the the girl. 

1135
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,720
Sorry, I used to work in sales 
with men. 

1136
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,600
These men would talk about 
thought you were no, no, no, no,

1137
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,840
no, no, no. 
In an office, they would talk 

1138
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,920
about their. 
Shit, yeah, and I remember you 

1139
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,760
saying as well when you're 
working in cosmetics. 

1140
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Crazy. 
Would come in and buy 2 lots of.

1141
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Gift for me. 
I would sit there and be like 

1142
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,240
what the fuck is going on when? 
People brag about it. 

1143
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,040
That's awful. 
I think the bragging is the 

1144
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,000
worst part. 
Yeah, you're bragging about it. 

1145
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,080
That's weird. 
The boys are liar. 

1146
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,160
The boys are liar. 
Yeah, no, I just, I was not keen

1147
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,440
on that work environment after I
got out there very fucking 

1148
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,120
quickly. 
But it was just gross. 

1149
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,760
Even the recruitment, yes, even 
even the ones that treatment 

1150
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,120
men. 
But listen, even the ones that 

1151
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,320
you didn't think were cheating, 
who you thought were really 

1152
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,480
fucking sweet and really lovely 
and loved their wives, they were

1153
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,480
also cheating. 
Wow. 

1154
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Yeah, it's crazy mental. 
Yeah, can't just. 

1155
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Stop doing that shit. 
Just talk to you, but just. 

1156
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Talk. 
Yeah, just talk. 

1157
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,360
Or if you really don't want to 
fucking be with them anymore, 

1158
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,840
just hang up them, Yeah, don't 
put them through it. 

1159
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,880
God, guys, I'm more now. 
We've got to go. 

1160
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,080
We've we've had a big one. 
This has been a big one. 

1161
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Like I've said it before as 
well, we're going to be doing 

1162
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,240
advice episodes going forward on
our Patreon. 

1163
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:08,760
So bring in those questions, 
even if it's like based on what 

1164
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,560
we've just said or anything 
else, send it in. 

1165
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Send in more horror stories. 
We love you, goodbye. 

1166
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,240
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