1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Hello everyone, welcome to the Lesbian Supper Club podcast. 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,760 I'm Freya. I feel like I've never said that 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,720 before. Do you know what I hate most 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,440 about doing this podcast is having about that but like 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,760 specifically you introing it every week gives me the air can 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,560 I don't. Know why Intro Every week I I 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,840 edit the pod. I know I intro most weeks 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,480 because you usually intro and then it's so bad because you 9 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,560 make it awkward and weird that I then. 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,960 Intro You close Welcome to the lesbian summer. 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,200 Club just, I don't know what it is about the way that you do it 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,920 and I don't think anyone else would feel this way. 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,440 I know that it's a personal umbrage that I have. 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,800 I think maybe you should talk to like like a couples therapist. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:01,800 But why I annoy you so much? Right, see now this again we has 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:08,280 anyone else got a girlfriend that you could say to them, oh 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,080 babe, those trousers are too short on you. 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,600 And they would turn around and go OK, well you hate me. 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,800 And actually over the last month I've realised that all you do is 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,240 nag at me and then I will be like, OK, well can I have 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,960 specific examples to which no response can be given. 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,320 And then 5 minutes later to be told, sorry, I just overreacted 23 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,680 to you telling me the trouser was too small and that there was 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,120 a very good scenario of that where I say to you that small 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,680 thing, I know it's I'm not saying that I'm right, it's just 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 slightly annoying and you go OK, will you hate me? 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Yeah, well, apparently it's a Capricorn thing, so I'm just 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,200 going to let that be my excuse. Scarlett has already cleared. 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,280 There's 163 calories in this one tin. 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,600 Yeah, but it's a Pimms. Pimms is like pure sugar and 31 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,680 lemonade. I'm surprised it's not more. 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,600 Jesus Christ not. Bad. 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,600 I think that's quite bad. I don't think so. 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,040 I thought it would have been about 70. 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,240 No, for a Pimms I was thinking around the two to be. 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Fair. It is very sweet. 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,840 It tastes very sweet. Well, Scarlett couldn't find a 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,720 soft drink in the fridge at Levi's, so she grabbed a Pimm. 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Because I hate water. That what's your second can. 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,280 It's a kind of minor figures black. 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Coffee. I'm going to try it and like. 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,200 But I'm going to go for it anyway. 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,120 I'm going to do a bit. Yeah. 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,160 Because, guys, does anyone else like. 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Oh my God. Oh she that is. 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,960 Fuck that is strong. But you like black coffee in 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,520 your day? Because I'm a psychopath. 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Who else loves black coffee, Gin and tonic? 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Tequila, lime, soda, beer. Me. 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,920 But I like all of those things. I just don't like black coffee. 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Oh, now see, for me that's horrible. 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,240 That that is nasty. Sorry minor figures that's shit. 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Fucking how? Me I'm a horrible I taste like 54 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:06,320 piss. That I am a die hard black 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 coffee fan. That is that that's yeah, that's 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 nasty. Can can I just say we we cycled 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,440 here today on a line bike? I don't know if any of you live 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,680 in London, well, I know some of you do, but the ones that do, do 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,680 you ride line bikes? I fucking love them. 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,880 I just hate having to find one and then when you find it like 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,680 there's. Like everyone else on the road. 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Yeah, and there's like a pedal missing when you find a bike. 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Drivers and like anyone travelling in London are the 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,200 definition of cunt cunts. Like absolute cunts but also. 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,360 It is so hot and it's October. Boiling it's. 66 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,280 Ridiculous. And it is October. 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,040 It is autumn. I am not complaining. 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,960 No, I'm not. I hate autumn and I hate winter. 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,360 It is hot. But it was so weird because we 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,840 were cycling down Oxford Street and all of the Christmas lights 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,600 are already out, so it's like I'm literally sweating and then 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,160 there's Christmas lights. Yeah, but that must just be how 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,280 the Australians fell every year. Well, I'd love it. 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,560 It's just normal I think. We're in the wrong country. 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Yeah. But we know that. 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,840 We do know that things that keep us here, guys. 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,800 There's some really exciting stuff coming up, one of which 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 being our event. Yes, which sold out in literally 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,279 a matter of like 2 hours. Yeah, because. 80 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,839 We never even announced that it's gonna happen either. 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,360 We just. Of course we wouldn't have 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,680 announced and give anyone like a pre opportunity to like wait for 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,640 them to have been released because we're so deeply 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,640 unorganised. But we're so blessed like and so 85 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,360 grateful how how you guys support us so much. 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,880 It's incredible. We literally can't wait for the 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,840 event, actually. It's going to be so much. 88 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:40,560 Fun. When I say event, it's basically 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,960 just going to be like you guys coming in drinks, yeah. 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Just drink but you're. Coming in on what are lesbian 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,520 quote UN quote lesbian supper clubs look. 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Yeah. But I don't want to say that 93 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,600 because I feel like you're going to set the expectation too high 94 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,360 now and. It's just what we do. 95 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,720 Yeah, but Freya, I don't feel like we're going to get our tits 96 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 out in a group of 60 lesbians. Well, you go for it. 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,160 I won't be doing that, not at the first event. 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,120 I've got to allow people to settle in. 99 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,440 I'm going to be a quite a tame version of myself, I heard. 100 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,120 I think I've always up for a bit of crack. 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,320 Oh, we love to have a laugh if anyone's got any funny stories. 102 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 But the point is is like. A safe space for women. 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Yeah, well, no, no, I would disagree because there's 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,320 actually a lot of safe spaces. Well, there's more safe spaces 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,400 existing than there ever were. We know a number of events that 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,800 take place across London for women and non binary and trans 107 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,240 folk. This is more a different type of 108 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,800 event. So a lot of the events that 109 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,720 currently exist are, you know, club type out out type events 110 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,200 which are great and they all look fantastic. 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,080 That isn't something that we often ever do either to 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,880 literally never or with our friends. 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,080 So we are trying to or not even trying to. 114 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:59,200 We are simply doing our version of what our nights out look like 115 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,760 and we are opening in that up to our listeners. 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,840 Yeah. And so it's going to be very 117 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:06,920 casual. The space we absolutely love. 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,960 We feel like we found the great space and we've got some really 119 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 exciting things that hopefully we can pull off that will be 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,920 like happening on the night. And it's just going to be an 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,400 opportunity for like, hopefully people to just come have some 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,920 drinks, meet some people of hopefully similar mindset, but 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,040 also just. It's having like queer women and 124 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,440 non binary people within a space where that doesn't happen all 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,440 the time. And like you said, unless it is 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,920 a club night, it ain't happening. 127 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:39,680 So yeah, just have a drink, relax, have fun. 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,680 That's what we want. It's nice because like the 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,800 numbers are, there's enough for it to be a really good 130 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,440 atmosphere, but the numbers are not big enough for it to get too 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,360 big. Yeah. 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 We want it to still be relatively like, intimate, like 133 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,480 I want to talk to you guys, wanna actually speak, you know, 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,920 and, and I wanna people to speak to each other as well. 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Exactly. Yeah. 136 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,960 So we can't wait. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,960 We've got a lot of hopefully exciting things we can pull off. 138 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:09,840 And to those of you who didn't get tickets, we have got a lot 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,560 of stuff in the pipeline in this space. 140 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 So do not worry. There will absolutely be 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,480 multiple chances for you to come and attend and let's just all 142 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,280 have fun. 100%. I want to talk about a couple of 143 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,080 weeks ago we went to watch the football. 144 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Yeah. So we went to watch Arsenal play 145 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,640 with, not play with. That's so awkward. 146 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Arsenal play a game. They played with Liverpool. 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,360 They played. They probably are playing with 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Liverpool. Up stage. 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Like, you know, and they all go well, we all know that the 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 lesbian football scene is insane. 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Like they that Jan scene is next level. 152 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,200 That'd be the only reason why I play don't. 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,280 So I want to make it clear I support basically all of the 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,240 women's football teams. I think they're all great 155 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,160 because I have favourite players across Manchester United, across 156 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Arsenal, across Liverpool, etcetera, etcetera. 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,360 However, on this particular day we went to support Arsenal 158 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,920 because Katie McCabe was playing Katie. 159 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,760 McCabe is Scarlett. 'S I'm obsessed with her, yeah, 160 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,800 like I'm actually obsessed with her to the point where like I 161 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,400 watch those, like, edit videos on TikTok of her. 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,560 It's getting out like. Five times a day it's. 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Getting out of hand. She is me. 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,080 I am her. We are one to get that. 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Like I know that if I was on a football pitch, the way that 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Katie McCabe behaves is me. Yeah, I bulldozer. 167 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,200 Yeah, bulldozer. Out of control. 168 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Can't let things go. Like wearing the emotion on her 169 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,160 sleeve gets pushed, pushed 2 times harder. 170 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 She's just, I just think she's a fucking legend. 171 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:56,400 Also that Irish accent, There's something about her I find so 172 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,800 attractive as well. And I don't know what it is 173 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,760 because she wouldn't be my usual type. 174 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,160 But I have said before, I do love a football girl. 175 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,440 I do love a football girl. Like if they can play football, 176 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,360 I automatically think they're really hot. 177 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Well, let me give you a favour darling, Never see me play 178 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,280 football. Just don't watch her pray. 179 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,640 I don't like watching you play any kind of physical sport or 180 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,320 activity. Well, you quite like watching me 181 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,480 kayak. You're good at kayaking. 182 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,520 I will give you that. I will give you that. 183 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Everything else is like sending your child who is better off at 184 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:36,680 art to sports Day and watching them 10 metres behind everyone 185 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,560 in every single and they, they're the kid. 186 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:42,080 Like you would be the kid that gets the award for 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,960 participation. Every time, yeah. 188 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,960 Like a little Gold Star just for turning up. 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,280 Yeah, both sides. Liverpool undoubtedly played 190 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:55,320 better and deserved the win, but I thought both sides it wasn't. 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,960 I think it just seemed a. Little bit slow. 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 It was slow. It felt like they really 193 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,520 struggled to to get their shit together. 194 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,680 I love watching struggle. Momentum. 195 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:08,400 It was still fun to watch, yeah. We're going this Sunday to watch 196 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Arsenal V's Man City, so come say, hey, we saw a couple of you 197 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,480 there. Yeah, we did, which is really 198 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,360 nice. Yeah, a few of you, actually. 199 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Yeah, which is mental. There was like 54,000 people 200 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 there. We bumped into a few of you in 201 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,520 Notting Hill as well, which is just, it's still, if I come 202 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,760 across as a bit strange when you guys come up to me, it's not 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,520 because I don't want you to come up to me. 204 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,680 It's because like this is so new for us and it's happened so 205 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,040 quickly. It feels really dystopian. 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,480 So I think each time it takes me by like it still really takes. 207 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Me just chatting pure shit. Yeah, I like panic chat. 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,400 I ever go like, I think my face, first of all was like sheer 209 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,800 panic, which may come across like, I'm giving you the fuck 210 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,680 off face. And I swear to God I'm not. 211 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:57,280 This is just grouches like natural instinct. 212 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Yeah. And then yeah, our second 213 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,880 default is to overcompensate and chat loadership. 214 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,040 But then also this podcast is US chatting loadership. 215 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,520 So I feel like it by now guys. Yeah, I feel like that's what 216 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,520 you're expecting actually, in all fairness. 217 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,200 But yeah, if you do see us, please come up because I've also 218 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,200 had a few messages from a few of you saying I saw you but I 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,080 didn't come up to you. And that makes you feel sad. 220 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Just come up. I swear I won't buy. 221 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,200 Or maybe I will. I would. 222 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,840 I might buy it. Oh something I wanted to talk 223 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,240 about the Emma Chamberlain breakup situation. 224 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,520 So as we all know, Emma Chamberlain was with Role Model 225 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,840 for about like 2 years and I feel like we lost a bit of Emma 226 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Chamberlain personality online throughout those two or so 227 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,000 years. And it seems to me as soon as 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,520 they've broken up, that personality of Emma's has gone 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,080 straight back on the ground. After this podcast has gone 230 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,480 live, can you guys comment and tell us if you give a fuck about 231 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Freya talking about Emma Chamberlain? 232 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,960 Because I just feel like. No, no, Emma. 233 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Chamber people listening to this podcast are not the same people 234 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,880 deeply devoted to Emma Chamberlain's life. 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,960 I don't know. I really don't think they. 236 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Are but I want this to be kept in because there might be some. 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,200 I just don't feel like they're OK if I'm. 238 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,840 Interested. But I am just interested more so 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,920 at the movement of how she's behaved online after their 240 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,080 breakup because it's very much similar to how a straight 241 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,640 relationship. A straight relationship. 242 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,840 Yeah. But what I'm saying is you could 243 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,560 apply that to quite a lot of relationships, how people switch 244 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,840 up their personality online. Weave this into the podcast and 245 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,760 that was not the angle you were coming from. 246 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 You wanted to have your 5 minutes talking about your one 247 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,640 certainly true love. The Can I just say Emma 248 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,120 Chamberlain has done collaboration with Levi's and is 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,160 absolutely staring at the Levi's cupboard right now across the 250 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,640 studio and I need it is an actual need. 251 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,840 I need the trousers, I need the I need the jeans. 252 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,280 It's like, it's like brown. Would you wear the jeans with 253 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,400 that of interest? No. 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Fuck off. No, I'm genuinely asking you. 255 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,600 It's a dickhead question. Yeah, because I know that you 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,480 won't know how to style them. So is it? 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Come on, please tell me. No, because I know they. 258 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,800 Will look nice on you, but I know what you're doing. 259 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,960 Right now as. Condescending. 260 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 I have to start. OK, what would you wear them 261 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,320 with? No, you can style me. 262 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Exactly, that's why I ask. Oh fuck off. 263 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,680 I mean, it looks so good in my brownies. 264 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:28,960 See trousers, I can't wait. Today we wanted to talk about a 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,200 couple of things. One of these things being 266 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,320 something that actually me and Scarlett have both experienced 267 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,920 throughout our journeys of like, finding out our sexuality. 268 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,880 And I know of a few other queer women as well who have said a 269 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,520 very similar thing. When I say hyper sexualism, I 270 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,880 mean hyper sexualism with men or you know, boys when we were 271 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,280 growing up because we were trying to hide our true 272 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:00,640 identity. You're saying us, the women, 273 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:05,760 being the ones that are? Hypersexual I because, and I'm 274 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,480 not saying that every woman has experienced this, but I can 275 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,760 speak on my behalf. When I was growing up, I was 276 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,360 hypersexual with boys because I was trying so hard to a be 277 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:24,000 straight, to be proved to other people that I was straight and 278 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,960 CI just wanted to try and well, basically change. 279 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,920 See, I done it as well, but I done it more because I think I 280 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,320 knew deep down when I was really young I was hypersexual anyway, 281 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,280 which is looking back now just I feel strange in itself. 282 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,480 But from the age of like 14 and above, where your friends, you 283 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,440 know in the groups kind of start like exploring and all of that 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,600 stuff's happening. I feel that at that time I 285 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,000 definitely knew I was gay or I definitely knew something about 286 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,120 me was different than my friends. 287 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,800 And for me it was more not trying to prove that I was the 288 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,160 same as them or trying to convince myself because, because 289 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,480 you know, I definitely, I've, I've mentioned this previously 290 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 went through like took me basically five years to come out 291 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,920 because I was scared of what other people were going to say. 292 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,400 But as soon as I did come out, I was never scared of myself. 293 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Like I I don't think I ever had internalised homophobia, I had 294 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,040 fear of what other people would think of me but then as soon as 295 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,400 I came out even if they did them behave badly like the person in 296 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,040 me that hates injustice called that out straight away. 297 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,840 But for me it was more like I over sexualized and hyper 298 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,760 sexualized myself to keep up with my friends. 299 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,640 So I wanted to be part of the group. 300 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,000 I didn't want to prove that I wasn't gay. 301 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,280 It wasn't that. It was more that I wanted to fit 302 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,560 in to my friends because I was more like, if they're doing it, 303 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,560 then I should be doing it because why wouldn't I? 304 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,120 And at this point as well, for like those five years, as I've 305 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,240 mentioned previously, of thinking that I was gay, it was 306 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,200 because I was obsessed with one person who was female, not 307 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,520 because I actually thought I was gay. 308 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Right. Yeah, I did that too. 309 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,800 So I was trying to still be with men or boys because I thought 310 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,560 other than that one person I would be with men or boys, which 311 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,640 I think is such a common experience. 312 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Yeah, I definitely, I definitely did that whole thing of like, 313 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,800 I'm just in love with one person. 314 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,920 But it definitely went a lot deeper than that. 315 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,640 I wanted to really prove a point to. 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,440 My friends horrible horrible feeling as well like. 317 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,400 There's nothing more unsafe or like. 318 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,280 It almost feels quite demoralising. 319 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,960 I I felt like I owed it to them to to have sex with them or to 320 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,480 do something sexual. It was more. 321 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Family. It was a knowing rather than 322 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 something that was really, truly a decision of mine. 323 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,440 For me, it was like shame, actually. 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,800 It was more like I after would walk away from that situation 325 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,680 feeling internally like I had done something deeply wrong, 326 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,240 which actually for so many other people was so normal and so 327 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,480 natural. And again, This is why I think I 328 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,839 mentioned this before, why it was so clear to me that I was 329 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,599 gay as soon as I slept with my first girlfriend, because I had 330 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,319 none of those feelings, even though from a societal 331 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,480 perspective it would have been more quote unquote wrong. 332 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,880 Shameful. Yeah, to have. 333 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,240 Had sex with a woman. I did not feel that shame. 334 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,040 I felt absolutely fine. It felt so normal to me, whereas 335 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,760 whenever I would walk away from sexual encounters with boys or 336 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,280 men, I would. Feel awful though. 337 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,680 There's not a shower hot enough, is there? 338 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:52,080 I mean, I, I remember when I had a boyfriend, I was 1415 years 339 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:57,360 old and I remember my mum trying to get him to stay one night 340 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,400 because he had to cycle back home and it was like winter. 341 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,840 My mum was like, why don't you just stay? 342 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,960 And I remember looking at her being like, God, I really, 343 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,240 really, really don't want him to stay. 344 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,520 And it wasn't even like a sexual thing. 345 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,320 I just couldn't wait for him to get the fuck out of my house. 346 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,320 This is. Like, yeah, it's like, Oh my 347 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,360 God, just get the fuck out. Whereas like with girls, I've 348 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:15,240 been like. Stay. 349 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Yeah, I stayed with them as well, like never an issue. 350 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,960 But I also think as well that like I did feel really unsafe 351 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,120 around boys because I set an expectation around them that I 352 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,960 was always going to have sex with them or do something sexual 353 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,080 with them. So and I almost at that point 354 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,800 can blame them because I was so hypersexual with them. 355 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,120 That expectation became so normal. 356 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,960 And I even remember a boyfriend of mine saying when I was 18 357 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,640 years old and he said to me he was like we don't have to have 358 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,680 sex all the time. Like he literally said that to 359 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,560 me. Oh wow. 360 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,640 And I. Even a young boy was like wow. 361 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,880 Yeah, he was like 22. He was like, this is a lot. 362 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,200 We don't have to have sex all the time. 363 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,040 We can do other things. He was a very respectful guy. 364 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,240 Like he's a really nice guy. But I didn't know what else I 365 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,480 could give in that relationship other than sex because I 366 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:13,080 couldn't give the emotional side of things that I would give a 367 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,360 woman. It just didn't come naturally to 368 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,360 me. Yeah, I had a care. 369 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,120 I had a a level of care. But yeah, no, not really. 370 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,160 I mean, I did. I did. 371 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,200 I, I didn't, I can't fake something. 372 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 It's not that I didn't like, wish them well, but I didn't 373 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,040 care for them and for me, I, I didn't enjoy their company at 374 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,160 all. Like the whole time I was 375 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,400 thinking about what to talk about. 376 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Like the conversation was just not there. 377 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,920 The interest was just not that. I offended one of the really 378 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,840 hideous jokes so. I this I think this was the 379 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,920 final nail in the coffin for me where I was like, I am never 380 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:55,280 dating a man again was like I think I was like 1718. 381 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,560 It was not long before I got my first girlfriend and I was still 382 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,440 doing this. In my eyes, this strange thing 383 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,160 with the quote unquote best friend who I was in love with 384 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,120 where I. Like certainly from my 385 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:10,200 perspective, and I don't know if she did, but I definitely did, 386 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 would go on dates with guys to wind her up. 387 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,960 And no, but it was definitely both sided. 388 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,640 Yeah, of course it was. And there was this one guy. 389 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,640 It was back in the day of Facebook. 390 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,600 So like we'd connected on Facebook and I'd saw him on a 391 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,120 night out a few times and whatnot and he wanted to Take Me 392 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:32,560 Out. So I agreed. 393 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Can I just say this guy was like before it back? 394 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,320 No, that's unfair. A5 to six at best. 395 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Definitely not my type at all but really thought he was the 396 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,280 dog's bollocks. He take you Wait. 397 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,680 So he pulls up to my house in his one series BMW, which at the 398 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,480 time still is actually like, really nice. 399 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,120 Car. Nice car, but he thought he. 400 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,560 Was driving around in a fucking Ferrari, yeah. 401 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,080 So that was like ick #1. He takes, he drives us to 402 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:13,200 Exeter, which is like a good hour from my home because at 403 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,880 this point there was no, there was like nothing around where we 404 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,520 lived like an. Hour drive with Yeah, but. 405 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Even is. Well, this is it. 406 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,720 I can't remember the. Drive. 407 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,000 I'd rather go to a ship party. I really would. 408 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,960 And we go to Exeter and we end up in Nando's, which is just 409 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,960 like classic, although a fucking lover Nando's. 410 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Like to be fair I don't give a shit about things like that 411 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,720 though. Like. 412 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,120 Lauren and Harry met at Nando's. Yeah, this isn't the problem for 413 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,000 me at all. And it's just the fact that he 414 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640 drove you an hour out to go to fucking Nando's. 415 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,120 It's not like he drove you an hour out to go to somewhere 416 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:47,880 really fucking. Nice. 417 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,680 Yeah. But also you have to appreciate 418 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 that like in Yeovil, Taunton, etcetera, at this time there was 419 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840 no, there was nothing on the High Street. 420 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,360 So yeah, OK, granted we could have gone to a pub, but when 421 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,800 you're 17, it's not really the vibe. 422 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:08,960 So we get to Nando's and I order like my usual order, which I 423 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,560 think was like, this was at the time that I ate meat. 424 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,720 So it was like medium spice chicken wrap, nice with like 425 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,360 salad in that. I think I would have ordered the 426 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,120 sweet potato mash and like the peas. 427 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,280 Yeah. Or the. 428 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,240 Peas. Yeah, loved the peas. 429 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Interesting. And this prick made a comment to 430 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,080 me about getting two sides. He's like, were you going to eat 431 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,040 all that? That's a fucking pee. 432 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,880 And I was like, yeah, it might have not been. 433 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,280 It might have been chips and peas. 434 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,560 I was like. Who gives a fuck? 435 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Doesn't fucking matter if I had the fucking chips, garlic bread, 436 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,040 mash and the rat, which to be fair, I could quite easily, 437 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600 easily eat the power back. Yeah. 438 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,400 He was just like one of these guys that would try and be like 439 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320 funny through misogyny, but actually just sounded like a 440 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,280 prick and he was a prick. So that was awful. 441 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,080 And then we were driving back and I can't remember, like we 442 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760 were talking about something and I made a comment that like 443 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,080 genuinely wasn't even bad. And he slammed on the brakes and 444 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,720 went get out of the car in the middle of Exeter town city 445 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,880 centre. You're joking. 446 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,040 And I just looked at him and obviously like, I didn't give a 447 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,160 shit about this guy and I just looked at him and like 448 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,680 sniggered. And I was like, OK, because I 449 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,680 because. Did you get out? 450 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,760 Because I had family in Exeter, fantastic. 451 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,120 And like I know my mum would have got me or like my dad would 452 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,280 have come and got me. So like I didn't need this 453 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,760 prick. I've been travelling all around 454 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 since I was 14 by modelling anyway. 455 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,320 So like I wasn't like I would panic in that kind of situation. 456 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,520 So I was just like OK, we were at traffic lights and as I went 457 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,880 to open the door he speed up and we basically drove the whole way 458 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760 home in silence. I dropped him, he dropped me off 459 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,000 and I don't think I ever spoke to him again. 460 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,400 And that for me, I was like, fuck men. 461 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Wow. Not they're all men. 462 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,200 I've got a, you know, got to preface it by being like, not 463 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,600 all men. Yeah, OK, it's not all men, but 464 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000 I fuck him. I literally going to. 465 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,600 Get another pimps. I'm back with my second can of 466 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,640 pimps. Good girl. 467 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320 I'm going to speak like Gillian Anderson from G Spot. 468 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,440 I'm just about to take my sip of Pimms. 469 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:32,880 Yeah, Daddy. OK No I so this is where I 470 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,680 started to switch up the way that I was with boys. 471 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,360 But but like I said I was always owing, I was always going above 472 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:48,080 and beyond to be my true hetero man loving self which honestly 473 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920 makes me want to slam my head against a fucking brick wall. 474 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,880 But there was this one time, and this is where I started to 475 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,800 realise this has gone too far. And I was, to be fair, there 476 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,320 were plenty of other times before that where I should have 477 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,080 gone. I've taken it too far. 478 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,480 But I fucking didn't, all right? I continued to. 479 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,360 Take, but this is you and you also need to make the mistake at 480 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,920 least five times. Before yes I do you should do 481 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 and let me just say this mistake probably happened about 50 482 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,640 times. Absolutely fat. 483 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:22,880 Anyway, I went on a date with a -10 he was potentially this was 484 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 a payday, Can I just say right? And it wasn't even supposed to 485 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 be a date, but he was like, do you want to go to the cinema? 486 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,200 And I was like, right, this guy is bottom of the barrel. 487 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,840 He looks like something that can I just ask. 488 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,640 A question really quickly to all lesbians. 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Why is it that when we are in our hiding, our lesbian or our 490 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,720 queer era, we actually go for the worst type of guy, more 491 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,960 worse than what any straight girl would do? 492 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,160 Now you would think by natural human psychology that. 493 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,360 We go that we'd actually. Go for the highest of the high 494 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,200 because we'd be so unbothered. We'd be like not casting our net 495 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,440 that wide and we'd be like, right, do you know what I mean, 496 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Like. But maybe it's just because 497 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,920 we're so unbothered that it didn't matter if he was a -, 10 498 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,320 or a 20 plus to. Be fair, a lot of my beards were 499 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960 really good looking. Yeah, mine one right? 500 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,720 But I was also fucking ugly so. One of them was a Hollister 501 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,760 model, which at the time was like. 502 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Yeah, that was iconic, yeah. Why did we? 503 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,960 Why were we all upset so fucking? 504 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Yeah, really pathetic. So I went on this, I went on 505 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560 this so-called date with him and I remember him making me you pay 506 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,880 for my ticket. That really pissed me off. 507 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,120 No Freya when? No, I'm sorry, you go on a pity 508 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,560 charity date, they pay. Yeah, but he didn't know it was 509 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,480 a pity charity. Date. 510 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,760 I'm sorry he knew and I wasn't. I was gonna say looking girl in 511 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800 the world. What era were you in at this 512 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,960 point that you're fucking? Is that you're trying to say it 513 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 was a pity day. He probably thought it was a 514 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,200 fucking. Pity day. 515 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,880 But I also stand by this and it's not so much a a female male 516 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,160 thing or whatever. I always say. 517 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,840 The person who asked you on the date page. 518 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Yeah, OK, fair, I always say. OK, that's not even about roles. 519 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,680 It's. Just roles, OK, person who asked 520 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,800 you pays for the fucking date anyway. 521 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,080 I didn't want to go see this stupid fucking movie anyway. 522 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,160 I'm not gonna say it just in case by any way means of 523 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,400 whatever he identifies. It's not like he's listening. 524 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,840 And then so it sit throughout this whole movie and I know that 525 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,000 he was obviously just like having his eye on me the whole. 526 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200 Time I actually can't watch you talk about this. 527 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Fucking makes me nothing happened. 528 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,960 Nothing happened. And then he was like, let me 529 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,840 drive you home and it was a good like 50 minute drive. 530 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,960 So I was like OK. And then he drove me all the way 531 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920 home and like, stopped outside of my house. 532 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,760 And then just kind of, you know that really slowly. 533 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,200 And the boys do. Facing the world. 534 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,480 Like close their eyes way too soon and like open up their 535 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320 mouth. And I remember seeing it happen 536 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 in slow motion, just turning my head and like giving him my 537 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,440 cheek. But that was the real, the 538 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,480 moment where I realised I was like, OK, I'm done. 539 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,360 I'm done with this shit. And it obviously I then had my 540 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,080 like first girlfriend and that was amazing. 541 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 I did have a slip up with a guy because I was still really, 542 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,640 really, really trying to be straight. 543 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,840 This was a very different situation. 544 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600 He was not bottom of the barrel. He was a very good looking guy. 545 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,440 He was really, really lovely. That was a moment where I was 546 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,240 like, do you know what? You're so my personality type. 547 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,520 You're gorgeous. He wasn't. 548 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,240 You do everything. He was my personality type for 549 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,760 sure. He was personality type. 550 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,400 He was I need. To meet this guy, because from 551 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000 what I've heard, what, So he's got, like, dirty filth crap, 552 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,040 Yeah. He was really funny. 553 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,400 He was a bit of a bad boy, but not in a nasty way. 554 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840 He was really like rebellious, some fun. 555 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 He liked to be spontaneous. Rebellious as he. 556 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Was very cute as well though, so a lot like you if you were a man 557 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 anyway so. So yeah, but I kind of then knew 558 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800 I was like, right, I'm definitely fucking gay and I, 559 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,120 you know, and I had to own it, but I but yeah, for those out 560 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,640 there that are maybe even like still going through this phase. 561 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800 You don't have to do it to. Yourself, you don't have to do 562 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,120 it that. Doesn't mean that you have to 563 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,800 come out and like open up and accept who you are, but I would 564 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:19,520 say that like going through multiple guys, boys, whether it 565 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,360 be sexually, like attempting emotionally or whatever that be 566 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,200 all you're really doing is punishing yourself. 567 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Because OK, you can question, but if you've been questioning 568 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,520 for a certain amount of time and you've been questioning multiple 569 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280 people prior, you're probably not questioning anymore. 570 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 You're probably having a hard time accepting, which is 571 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:46,280 absolutely fine, but if I could go back now I would have stopped 572 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,320 younger me a good two years before. 573 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Because those two. Years from the age of 16 to 18 574 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,280 were just so unnecessary and actually quite damaging for me. 575 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,960 It was really damaging for me, it was. 576 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Like, emotionally, yeah. Yeah, and and it does. 577 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640 And that level of disgust that you feel. 578 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,360 Because I think as well, from the age of like 13 to 16, when 579 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800 you're all in school and you're having a bit of fun, it's it is 580 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,680 quite innocent, but also 60 and above men. 581 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800 Shit. No, no, but this is not what 582 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,040 we're saying. What we're saying is the these 583 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,400 women or non binary people feel like when they're discovering 584 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,120 themselves, they need to keep experiment men to yeah, you can. 585 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600 But if it's making you feel a certain way countless amounts of 586 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,440 times, especially if you are younger, is I was about to say 587 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,880 from the age of 16 to 18, the rhetoric does change. 588 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,440 It goes from more like innocent, like kids to more kind of adult 589 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680 type relationships. So the intensity ramps up. 590 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,440 And it does take a more kind of what's the word? 591 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,520 I don't want to say devoted, but definitely more of a serious 592 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,200 tone. Yeah and that is what I wish I'd 593 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840 saved myself from. Because actually for me, and it 594 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,640 isn't the same for everyone, those experiences proved nothing 595 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920 to me. What I should have done from 596 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840 falling in love with my best friend to getting my first 597 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,280 girlfriend is not bothered dating men at all at that point 598 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,280 and got and done other things for my own self discovery and 599 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,360 healing to get me to that point. Because going on these shitty 600 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,280 dates with guys and having these shitty sexual experiences would 601 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,040 definitely, yeah, traumatising, I think more than. 602 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,080 I think a lot of it comes down to as well, like self love. 603 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,920 I think that when you are discovering your sexuality and 604 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,240 you're like, OK, I'm a lesbian or you think you might be, you 605 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200 start and it's not everyone, but this is what happened to me. 606 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,440 You start to hate yourself and because I didn't like myself and 607 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,480 because I didn't love myself or respect myself, I put myself in 608 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,200 these very damaging situations. Some of them were very dangerous 609 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,600 situations as well, which I wish I could go back and change, but 610 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,640 I can't. But it's all part of my journey. 611 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,280 I can't regret it now. But like Scarlett said, if I 612 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,920 could go back and yank younger me away from those situations, I 613 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,760 definitely would have done. So keep that in mind. 614 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Is that something that you're you're kind of doing? 615 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,520 Or if you have done, at least you know that like, it wasn't 616 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,840 just you. There was definitely a lot of us 617 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,640 that did that. Oh, it's 100% universal 618 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160 experience. I just think it's sad because a 619 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,680 lot of the time I don't know if it needs to be anymore. 620 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720 And I think like when we were younger, platforms such as the 621 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600 one that we are literally talking on now did not exist. 622 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,360 And I do honestly feel like if younger me had discovered with 623 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,000 the Elwood younger, if younger me had a podcast, if younger me 624 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,280 had more queer people in the media, my decision and my 625 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,000 understanding of who I was would have happened a lot faster. 626 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,880 And also just, yeah, like the pride in yourself because you, 627 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960 you see yourself. Yeah, I mean, I think, like I 628 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,080 say, we differ in that sense because I don't think I ever 629 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,160 actually felt shame. I just felt a lot of confusion. 630 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,760 I didn't understand if what I was feeling was real. 631 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,320 But I think my home life was different. 632 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Because it was so different to all of my friends and this is 633 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,880 what I mean. For me it was definitely more of 634 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,840 like a blending in and trying to fit in rather than a self hate. 635 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,640 But yeah, if I had those outward resources, those outer 636 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,160 resources, I would have come to the conclusion I probably would 637 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,400 have been out in school, I reckon. 638 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Yeah, I would have a. 100% yeah, me now, I think I really would 639 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,440 have 100. And that's not even just, well, 640 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,960 it is it all comes full circle. That's not just because there's 641 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,760 more resource out there now. So it's because as well that the 642 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,720 resource feeds into people coming out. 643 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000 The more people that come out and score, the safer that I 644 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,480 would have felt. So it is that full cycle. 645 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,639 It's that circle. But we're going to start 646 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:09,239 somewhere. Haven't. 647 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,960 We, if you're listening to this podcast and you're thinking, you 648 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,400 know, you're still doing those things, again, I really want to 649 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,040 highlight it. It's different for everyone and 650 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,480 it's, it's your journey. But if you are walking away 651 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,600 feeling shame, you feel, like Freya was saying, putting 652 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080 yourself in somewhat difficult and sort of sometimes dangerous 653 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040 situations to try and prove something to yourself and other 654 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,280 people. Stop. 655 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,360 Because it it it's not like the lights going to come on one day 656 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480 and suddenly who you are is going to change, even if you 657 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,360 desperately want it to right now. 658 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,120 You are who you are and you have to, at some point in your life, 659 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719 love that. Yeah, accept it and love it. 660 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,920 Because if you're not going to, you're not ever going to be 661 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,320 happy. You can mask and you can have 662 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,480 happiness, but you're not going to have true happiness if you're 663 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,840 not. Living authentically. 664 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Yeah, couldn't agree more. I wanted to say as well, like I 665 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,440 feel like it kind of ties into what we're saying here is 666 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,560 lesbians talking about the use of strap ONS and lesbians who 667 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,360 don't agree. Yeah, this is with the use of 668 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,680 strap ONS because they believe that it's too heteronormative or 669 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,720 like that we're expecting a Dick or we're expecting to have a 670 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,960 Dick or to have a Dick inside of us. 671 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,040 And I'm actually going to grab our PR live because she has a 672 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440 specific experience in this, which like I haven't. 673 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,920 I've spoken to women before who've said that they don't 674 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,640 believe in like strap ONS, etcetera. 675 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,200 I've never actually like been with someone who was like that. 676 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,280 So I'm going to grab her, get her experience on this. 677 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Oh, live. Right. 678 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,200 So I've brought live into this room, into the studio. 679 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960 Hello, Thank you, Liv very much for joining us. 680 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,200 She is our Geordie Queen. I love how she's already shy. 681 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,040 I know she's got the cute little giggle. 682 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 You're coming in to talk about your favourite subject, which is 683 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,320 the. Strap. 684 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,040 The strap So I was saying that I. 685 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080 Listens to this episode. Shout out to Lisa. 686 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,240 No, because she's not an act on technology. 687 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,000 She's probably still be on episode 1. 688 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680 Yeah, probably fair enough. She'll probably just keep re 689 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,960 listening to episode 1 thinking that she's listening to more. 690 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,920 Yeah, she's. Listening to on looping her. 691 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,120 Sleeping. Pills. 692 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,880 Right, so I was just saying that like I've never had an 693 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,120 experience where a girl has said I know that it happens, but I've 694 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,520 never had an experience where a girl was like no to the strap 695 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,240 because of XYZ. Do you care to share your 696 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,400 experience in this field? Because I know you've got 697 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,320 hashtag. Say no to the strap. 698 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,560 Yeah, so my first girlfriend, I was 17 and obviously just like 699 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,080 experimenting, like trying new things, whatever. 700 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,480 Then we got onto the topic of the strap. 701 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Nice. Yeah, and she was straight away 702 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,120 just like having none of it. Like absolutely no. 703 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,960 And the one thing she kept saying was like, it defeats the 704 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,040 point of being a lesbian. Right. 705 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,200 And what was her rationale behind that? 706 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:18,080 Because she was like, if you're having sex with a strap on, 707 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,040 which is essentially like a fake penis, why you're not having sex 708 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,280 with a man? Okay this is so troublesome on 709 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520 so many different levels. Can I just say as well, did you 710 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,560 guys ever use like dildos or anything though? 711 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920 No, because she wouldn't. It was the same issue for her. 712 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,560 It was like. Vibrate. 713 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Is that old thing Fine? Okay, Anything phallic related. 714 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440 It was like go Shagaman instead, though. 715 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,920 Which, in hindsight, she actually ended up doing, Yeah. 716 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,400 Well, that was. That she was clearly trying to 717 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,560 hide something from herself. Very, very hypocritical. 718 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,720 I don't think I've ever heard anything more hypocritical in my 719 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,080 life actually to say this is so phallic. 720 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,920 What's the point? I'm a lesbian and then cheats on 721 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600 you with a man. That is very bizarre, but. 722 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,640 That person is. Bizarre. 723 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,440 There she is. Can I just say something on this 724 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,560 is I want to say upfront that if you're a queer person who 725 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,440 doesn't enjoy using a strap on for whatever reason, that is 726 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,360 absolutely. That's fine. 727 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,520 Yeah. What I don't like is the 728 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,000 narrative associated to using strap ONS is, is that. 729 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,240 Oh, you must want Dick. Yeah. 730 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,920 Because that is so, so very untrue. 731 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920 You heard it here first on this podcast. 732 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,560 I love using strap ONS. I I thrive, but if a man were to 733 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:49,320 come anywhere near me, fuck off. I would honestly rather jump off 734 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,440 a Cliff. I'm I honest, I'm not even 735 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,120 joking. I would put that harness on off 736 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:03,600 the strap parachute right? Why am I picturing Freya 737 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,680 backwards swearing a strap harness with a parachute that 738 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:12,640 pops out on top of her bum and she's going paragliding off the 739 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,920 hills of Cornwall, no. I'm pitching her like running 740 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,120 across a beach, like running away from someone and getting 741 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,200 the strap and. I would lasso the strap, the 742 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,640 mountain, and. Just hiking herself up on. 743 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,680 It Yeah. It's got like a little hook at 744 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,360 the bottom and she's just going. On the on the tip, it's. 745 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,080 Like look, there's a reason why lesbians love rock climbing and 746 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600 it is because we love to our harness, OK? 747 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,640 I don't want to be seen in one of those pants with a hole in 748 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,560 it. I don't want that. 749 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,800 No the fuck I do. Want one of them. 750 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040 I don't want to be seen in it, but I want it because. 751 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560 Lights off only. Oh, just because I know that 752 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,480 they're so they've had so many good reviews. 753 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,400 Have they? Yeah, a lot of people say 754 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,120 they're fucking amazing. Because the harness. 755 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,600 The harness, yeah, but it falls out. 756 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,280 It does fall out. Look, it does. 757 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:06,800 Fall out and it is annoying but. I'm also the strap Don Oh my. 758 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480 God. I know, but Don, you can be a 759 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920 strap boxer Meister. I could be the boxer she. 760 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,680 Tried boxing and that was short lived. 761 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,000 You can't be the box Meister look. 762 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,280 I think it's really going back to the subject. 763 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,880 I think it's really fucked that girls will and like you said, 764 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,200 all the other. I think it's the fact that 765 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,960 people are. Shaming each other within like 766 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,320 community you're shaming. When my ex did that, obviously I 767 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,400 was the one who asked and she shut it down so much that I 768 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,280 almost felt ashamed and embarrassed. 769 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,520 So then when I was going forward into my next relationships, I 770 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,760 didn't want to bring it up because then I thought. 771 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,240 And also, did it make you question if you were actually 772 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,520 gay? Yeah, because I felt like she 773 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,720 was questioning me because of it. 774 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,480 Do you know what I mean? So how did you kind of like 775 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,400 process that then? Because if she was always 776 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,960 putting you down for it, did you rebuttal that fact with like, 777 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,640 no, you can still be a lesbian or while you just kind of like. 778 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,040 Well, I think that I was in, I think I was in a bad 779 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:09,120 relationship anyway, and I think she manipulated and told me a 780 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,640 lot. I kind of just took what she 781 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,600 said and. Was like, OK, so you kind of 782 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,720 took it as like fact because she said it. 783 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600 You were like, kind of. I didn't think like, oh, I must 784 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,520 be straight, but I was just like, well, they're doing right. 785 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,520 I was just like, OK, maybe that. Yeah, I was like, maybe that's 786 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,040 why you shouldn't use. But they don't create. 787 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Strap ONS for, I mean, they actually do, that's the problem. 788 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080 Do you know what I do? You know what I once bought? 789 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,560 I bought a strap on that was hollow on the inside because I 790 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,880 didn't realise that it was actually for a man to put his 791 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,680 penis in. Isn't that for people who have 792 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,120 like micro? Penis so so that it's like I'm 793 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,320 fucking you with a big old. Strap because another argument 794 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,240 that a lot of the community come up with, and I would imagine the 795 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,880 heterosexual community as well, although I couldn't give less of 796 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,680 a fuck about what they say, is that why would you wear a strap? 797 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,000 What the fuck do you get from it? 798 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,240 I get so much, first of all achievement, second of all can 799 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920 I? Just say guys sat here right now 800 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,280 with her fingers in the air. Point. 12.3 This is the thing, 801 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,480 OK? So yeah, when you're wearing a 802 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,760 strap, it's clearly not the fucking same physical 803 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,880 stimulation that you're going to receive as if you were to have a 804 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,560 real penis, OK, but that you still get so much enjoyment 805 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,600 about from pleasuring someone to. 806 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,640 Giving someone oral. Or fingering. 807 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,640 Someone or fingering someone? Could you just? 808 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,760 Say because I'm getting any like. 809 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,440 No, Yeah, but you are because? You can feel it, it is a 810 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960 sensation, whereas when you're wearing the strap. 811 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,720 Oh no, but I feel it on my clit, the base of the strap. 812 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,520 But I do. But what I'm saying, The thing 813 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400 is, but I think that yeah, you definitely get a lot out of it. 814 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440 And also it's just like pleasuring that person that 815 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,160 you're having sex with also being the receiver of the person 816 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,920 with the strap. Just because you're a lesbian 817 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,040 doesn't automatically then mean that you do not get pleasure out 818 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,960 of penetration. Yeah, and I also want to say a 819 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,680 couple of things here as well. I absolutely love everything to 820 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,840 do with lesbian sex that is not about wearing a strap on that. 821 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,960 So for me it is not the be all and end all. 822 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,280 But I am going to say something quite controversial here. 823 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,760 Go on. If I were not with you and I met 824 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,600 someone else and I I was planning on being a long in a 825 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,160 long term relationship with them and they did not want to receive 826 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,080 nor give with the strap. That would be a bit of a deal 827 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,320 breaker for me because I enjoy yeah. 828 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,840 I think I I think I agree. I think I agree too. 829 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,840 It's like AI think it adds I. Think it's also just a bit like 830 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,600 I don't need to use. It there's so many times that we 831 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,880 have had sex. That we haven't. 832 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,920 Used it do not use it right. So it's not like or any sex toys 833 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,840 actually at all. So it's not like I, I'm being 834 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,320 like, oh, it's, it's a deal breaker in that sense. 835 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:54,000 But I, I feel like I, it can be a lot of fun and I can, again, 836 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,880 I'm just going to go back and say like, if you don't want to 837 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600 receive nor give, that is absolutely fine. 838 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,000 Because like I understand there's so many reasons as to 839 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,880 why people wouldn't want to. But for me, like, it does come 840 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,440 in as quite a big part of sex. So I do think I would struggle 841 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,640 to be with someone who like didn't like it or kind of shamed 842 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,200 me for liking it. What? 843 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,800 About. Actually, I've got another story 844 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,440 about the other acts. Oh well. 845 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480 Code name this one Cyril. Cyril side window. 846 00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:26,840 Yeah, Yeah. That's creative. 847 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,680 That's very. Creative. 848 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:29,520 How did you get that from? I don't know it's. 849 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,880 Amazing. Just came off the top of your 850 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,480 head. Carry on. 851 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:37,320 So Cyril topic of strap no, absolutely no go wouldn't take 852 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,040 it wouldn't receive it. But then however, maybe like 853 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,920 just before year before into a relationship has I discover has 854 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,480 a like 12 inch clear dildo, right? 855 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,760 Oh my God. 12. Huge is huge 12. 856 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,080 So yeah, the whole thing which you like, I was like, should we 857 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,000 use? No, absolutely not. 858 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,800 You made me feel sick, blah blah blah blah. 859 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,360 I don't know. Again in a manipulation 860 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,000 controlling relationship. I pick him. 861 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,720 I pick him well which do a whole episode next time just on live 862 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,440 sexes. I'd love to do that. 863 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,480 I don't think I would anyway. Yeah, It was just like, no, no, 864 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,920 no. And then one night we were 865 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,680 staying in a hotel, I think it was around Christmas, and then 866 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,720 she just wrapped it out and I was like, where the fuck is this 867 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,640 from? Me thinking that she just bought 868 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,960 it. Is there a bag big enough? 869 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,720 Funny, I thought she'd just bought it just like, you know, 870 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,240 have a bit of fun. No, no, no, no, no. 871 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,040 This girl's had this for like 2 years and it's a. 872 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,800 Strat or is it just a dildo? Used it on her. 873 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,880 Ex Oh, that is classic lesbian though, Liv. 874 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,680 I can't be surprised at that because no, I know so many 875 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,880 lesbians just reuse no. But the fact that she shamed her 876 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,440 and no. Yeah, so. 877 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,480 Fucking 12. Inch. 878 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,320 That's what's yeah, that's what's problematic. 879 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,880 It's not the fact that like so it's not guys, we do need to 880 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,800 stop reusing our straps. But also do reuse their Dicks so 881 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,920 well. True, more about if you can 882 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,920 change it. If you can change it, you 883 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,600 should. Yeah. 884 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:18,000 So just as a PSA, we should be getting rid of our sex toys from 885 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,560 one relationship to me. And you break up, I'll send you 886 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,480 a video of me burning that strap on and crying in the background. 887 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:24,960 I think it would. I'd lob it onto OH. 888 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,280 My God, you do what Avery Cyrus has just done on TikTok and 889 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,040 like, chop it up. Chopped there, but that was that 890 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,400 was meant to be her vagina. No Jojo's vagina I. 891 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,240 Thought that was really bad and. I thought that was really nice. 892 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,680 I. Thought that was really nice. 893 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,720 Jojo's response? Yeah, Jojo's response is 894 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,720 hysterical and brilliant. But they but just ivory. 895 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,440 Avery should not have done that and you're gonna regret that one 896 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,880 day. So because acting like that on 897 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,200 body shame social media. Yes, it's just gross. 898 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,720 It's gross. Can we just go back to the 899 00:46:55,720 --> 00:47:00,240 recycling of straps? I don't think that's an opinion. 900 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,680 I don't think we should be doing it now. 901 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,480 I have done it and I have received from it, but there 902 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,360 isn't much excuse. We should just be buying new 903 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,760 ones we shouldn't be taking. Some of the fucking expensive. 904 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,120 But then maybe just don't disclose. 905 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,360 But what I find bad about this situation is that she shamed you 906 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,960 for it but had this thing the whole time and then one day 907 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,280 decided to have a change of heart. 908 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520 Like, what's the well that? I mean, as you know, it's just 909 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,720 classic Cyril. So why did Cyril have the sudden 910 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:31,840 change of heart? You don't know. 911 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,720 No. Did you question it when you saw 912 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,080 it come out? Were you like hold on a minute? 913 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,440 No, because classic me was just drunk as hell. 914 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,680 No. How did she wear it? 915 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,400 No, because it's a dildo. She just like. 916 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,000 She just shoved. She couldn't wear it. 917 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,720 It's a dildo, not a strap it. Could have no, but it definitely 918 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,160 was a strap because it had the. Like the thing that could have 919 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,200 bit like. Yeah, yeah. 920 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,920 Yeah, but no harness, insight harness probably at the axes. 921 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,960 She wouldn't have had the balls to harness you. 922 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,200 Actually, I don't want to say the balls. 923 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920 She wouldn't have had the minerals to harness you. 924 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,280 No, she wouldn't have had the tits to harness you. 925 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,800 But yeah, I think that honestly, as much as we cannot shame those 926 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,320 for not wanting to use it because of XYZ, that isn't that 927 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,840 isn't about men. We also just go. 928 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,480 You feel like you're you want to shame someone for wanting to use 929 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,720 a strap on. That's that's. 930 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,760 Yeah, because you're hearing it first from, you know, a lot of 931 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,920 the feedback that we get as in me and Freya get is how openly 932 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,040 gay we are very quit very owning of every element of our 933 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640 sexuality. So if these lesbians are telling 934 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,320 you that they enjoy the IT is not a part of questioning your 935 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360 sexuality or feeling like you're missing something in the 936 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,880 bedroom. Because let me tell you, I'm 937 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560 really not. I just it's just nothing other 938 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,240 than just enjoying it. So I hope as well that this 939 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:56,720 isn't extending into bisexual relationships or Poly 940 00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:00,800 relationships where if it's two women, the, you know, the 941 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,880 bisexual Poly girl has a conversation about wanting to 942 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,960 use toys. And then I hope there's not like 943 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,560 backlash happening in that sense being like, oh, you just want a 944 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,680 Dick then Because I just think, and it's so different. 945 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,840 I mean, as we say, one of the first videos we ever put up 946 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,040 about this podcast was just talking about strap ONS. 947 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,880 And so many of you commented it's the force and not the 948 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,640 source, and that has stuck with me. 949 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,280 That is probably the best piece of advice yeah I have ever been 950 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,880 given in my. Whole existence and we've loved 951 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,080 you all from day one, because it is. 952 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,040 So true, it is the force, not the source. 953 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,160 So. True, and if you don't agree, 954 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,240 I'm going to send those fucking Parisian bedbugs your way. 955 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,040 They're. Going to they've. 956 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,320 Actually been spotted on the tube, I've saw. 957 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,120 No, I've honestly read about five articles today. 958 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600 But I've been. Speaking to today have literally 959 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,840 been saying that when they've been going home, they're not 960 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,360 touching anything. They're literally stripping 961 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,000 their clothes off. I'm not surprised. 962 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,800 I'm not surprised. Fuck the bed bugs. 963 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,040 Don't get on the TfL, they have a lot but. 964 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,280 Right on. And they're smoking. 965 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,560 And they're like, oh, we. Shall I do the Horror Story? 966 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,320 Yeah, Geordie accent Let Live read out because it's really 967 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,960 long. Oh yeah, but she's Geordie. 968 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,920 OK so today's Horror Story. Hey girls, absolutely love the 969 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,560 podcast. I have binged it for the past 970 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,080 three days at work and have finished the last episode today. 971 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,400 Sad face. Anyway, I have a Horror Story 972 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,360 for you. I was seeing this girl at 973 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,320 college. We weren't in a relationship but 974 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,800 we were hanging out a lot and going on dates and we both had 975 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,640 expressed interest in continuing that. 976 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,560 She was a bit sketchy and would post some pics of me and then 977 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:37,520 immediate delete them and stuff like that and she was really hot 978 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,480 so I ignored enough. A lot of red flags. 979 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,680 I'd do the same. It's very me. 980 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,960 We had made plans one weekend in the fall to go to my friend's 981 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,400 house party Friday night for her to meet my friends and then go 982 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,080 to a pumpkin patch the next day. Typical date stuff. 983 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,280 Friday night comes and I hadn't heard from her at all so I sent 984 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,320 her a message asking if everything was OK. 985 00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,120 She didn't respond and I didn't hear from her all weekend. 986 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,280 I was pretty sad considering the plans were actually her idea and 987 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,880 I really liked her. By Monday night I still hadn't 988 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920 heard from her and said one last message before deciding it 989 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,480 wasn't worth it. My roommates at the time asked 990 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,120 me what would make me forgive her not responding. 991 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520 I said not sure, maybe if her dad died. 992 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,360 Or something, maybe if she died. Because I was pissed off. 993 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,040 Literally the next day she texts me saying it's not OK because 994 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,960 her stepdad died and she'd been out of state all weekend at a 995 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,360 funeral. I was shocked but of course I 996 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,040 believed him. We kept seeing each other. 997 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,160 We eventually started dating but our actual relationship didn't 998 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,240 last very long and the summer after in brackets. 999 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:43,600 This was August to December. During school I was looking on 1000 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960 Facebook and her mum was suggested to me as a friend. 1001 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,720 Of course I clicked on it to see that her mum had recently posted 1002 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,160 a wedding anniversary picture with the stepdad. 1003 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:57,040 I did some further research and realised his stepdad did not 1004 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,400 die, she had simply lied to me either to get out of hanging out 1005 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,960 with me because she wasn't comfortable with being with a 1006 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,240 girl. I just don't think she wanted to 1007 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,560 go pumpkin picking. That made me realise most 1008 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,120 everything she said was a lie and it also made me remember on 1009 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,600 our first date she weirdly asked me if I was a serial liar, to 1010 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,440 which I responded no. I mean, what else is a serial 1011 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,040 liar going to answer with her yes. 1012 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,200 This is the first time I've told the truth, yes. 1013 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,480 I never ended up confronted her. I've had to. 1014 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,320 Oh. I would have sent that 1015 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,600 anniversary photo. Sorry, that is. 1016 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680 Sad that is so bad. I would have sent that 1017 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,840 anniversary photo straight to her and said, Oh my God, he has 1018 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920 risen. I feel like there's a little 1019 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,560 like a white lie, but that is taken. 1020 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,560 This is the thing the power of her and me and sometimes the 1021 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,680 over exaggerate, like I don't like letting people down. 1022 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:57,400 So I have been partial to telling a white lie that would 1023 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,360 it would just be a lot better for me to tell the truth, right? 1024 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,520 And I've I've stopped doing that now I just say no. 1025 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,040 I was going to say, now you don't have it anymore. 1026 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,800 No. You've helped me be like, just 1027 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,200 tell the truth. Yeah, but I used to feel so much 1028 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,360 guilt about just like saying no, my brutality, change out. 1029 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,360 Abortion may come up with something, but never someone's 1030 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040 fucking die. I also think it's kind of like 1031 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,240 the superstitious person in me doesn't want to tempt fake. 1032 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:27,120 Because like Karma. And also so she clearly though 1033 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,720 from that moment had no intention of this going anywhere 1034 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,480 serious because surely at one point she would have met her mum 1035 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,920 and then would have met the stepdad. 1036 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,320 You were like, why didn't you fucking die? 1037 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,880 Well, that's the thing, I think it wasn't only about getting out 1038 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,000 of the day, it wasn't about getting out of the day, it was 1039 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680 about getting out of any further communication because she could 1040 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,880 say I couldn't go on the date because he died. 1041 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,160 And I also now I'm so traumatised and grieving that I 1042 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,200 don't want to no. But then they carried on date 1043 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,560 afterwards, yeah. Oh. 1044 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,400 So that's what's so weird. Oh, I thought they stopped. 1045 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400 No. Like, fair enough. 1046 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,480 Had that been like that, That's it. 1047 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,360 Oh my God. Waiting for. 1048 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,840 Like, I mean, still not fair enough. 1049 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,920 It's fucking weird. And then she saw her mum's 1050 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,520 Facebook and clicked. It and they had very odd, isn't 1051 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,360 it? That is very. 1052 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,880 Just I've got no words for that. It's, I think, bizarre person. 1053 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,760 Should Reconfront. I think she needs to be 1054 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360 confronted. I think that maybe we should get 1055 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,240 her to listen to this podcast. I'll say it for you, sweetheart. 1056 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,600 You shouldn't have lied, should we? 1057 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,880 Start doing When people submit their horror stories, they don't 1058 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,480 want to confront the other person that they just send their 1059 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,880 numbers and I. Ring them. 1060 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,680 Oh my God. Can you imagine? 1061 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,880 I'd love to call. This girl right now and say just 1062 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,520 have interest. Why did you lie about yourself? 1063 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,720 Die about that because I know that your mum just celebrated 1064 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:48,560 her anniversary with him. I I am honestly blown away. 1065 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,840 Maybe. Oh no. 1066 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,200 But how do we know actually that the mum didn't get married 1067 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360 again? How do we know that her dad 1068 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,200 wasn't gay? What? 1069 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,200 What the fuck? She said my stepdad died. 1070 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,320 How do we know that it wasn't her dad's husband? 1071 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,200 Because. She said her mum posted the 1072 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,960 photo. Yeah, what I'm saying is she 1073 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,960 only said stepdad. It could have been her dad's 1074 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,760 husband. No, because she this she was 1075 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,840 saying this girl was very much in the closet, which I fucking 1076 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,960 doubt she would have been if her dad was. 1077 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,760 What if it was? I think you're reading you're 1078 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,640 going too far. I'm. 1079 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,720 Trying to give it the benefit of the dad. 1080 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,640 How do that would have been me if that was me in that 1081 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,320 situation. How do we? 1082 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,080 Know, though, that the mother didn't remarry again or. 1083 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,280 Repost a picture just to be like. 1084 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,920 Happy anniversary. I love you but your dad. 1085 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,320 Yeah, because like, then she must. 1086 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,760 Put your dad in the caption for the girl to blunt. 1087 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,800 But you wouldn't always say that you're dead. 1088 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160 It could be like happy anniversary to the love of my 1089 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,200 life and that you could say you could do a postmate. 1090 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,960 I would assume that the girl that wrote in did a little bit 1091 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,840 more stalking. Can she actually give me this 1092 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,440 month of profile? So I really want to figure out 1093 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,680 the mum. Had gone on holiday or something 1094 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,360 and this girl knew and then the stepdad was in the picture. 1095 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,080 Well, I'd gone some, do you know what I mean? 1096 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,760 Yeah, maybe. Yeah. 1097 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,240 But all I'm saying is is that that was the only bit of 1098 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,760 evidence that she gave us in that e-mail was the happy 1099 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,640 anniversary post, which, to be fair, you might do. 1100 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,240 But I need to know more. What does, what does? 1101 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,200 But I do. Weird. 1102 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,880 Is the question asking of that are you a serial liar on the 1103 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,760 first day? Yeah. 1104 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200 That's a red flag. That isn't boding well for the 1105 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,440 other girl, is it? Imagine asking and the whole 1106 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,040 like. Posting pictures of her and 1107 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,840 deleting it straight away like. There's a lot of weird shit 1108 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,440 going on here, so I would imagine the girl has done her 1109 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,960 detective work. Why not just say? 1110 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,440 I'm so sorry like I had the shits or something like why did 1111 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,760 she feel like that this. Girl was so comfortable about 1112 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,200 lying about her stepdad dying. She probably doesn't really care 1113 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,240 about lying a lot of other things. 1114 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,440 That's definitely not her. First, well, I do actually know 1115 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,320 people who have lied a lot worse than this, definitely, which I 1116 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,440 would love to do an episode on. Yeah, we should do it, actually. 1117 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,280 Maybe that can be our next episode. 1118 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,760 What was it called? Liars when they love to lie. 1119 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,720 Yeah, Compulsive liars. Yes. 1120 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:04,160 Let's do an episode. On compulsive liars, because 1121 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,920 this was next level, This was worse than that. 1122 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,200 Yeah, and guys, write in your stories of your compulsive lies 1123 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:12,680 because I feel like there's going to be a lot. 1124 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,240 Should we just do a whole episode where we talk about, we 1125 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400 give our overview of our compulsive liars and like I've 1126 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,080 used and then we just go through a shit load of compulsive liar 1127 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,840 horror stories? Fucking yes. 1128 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,680 OK guys, write them in please. Anyway, I think that's 1129 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,880 everything. Yeah, don't lie, just say don't 1130 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,120 fancy you anymore, don't want to shag you. 1131 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,040 Bye. Yeah. 1132 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,640 Don't say family members have died. 1133 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,720 Yeah. Don't do that. 1134 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120 Yeah, try not to. Anyway, love you all. 1135 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,800 We'll speak to you next week and we can't wait to see you at the 1136 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,360 event. Love you all, bye. 1137 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:43,760 Bye.