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Hello lesbians. 
Hello lesbians. 

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Lesbians. 
I'm joined today. 

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It is Freya with Farrell. 
It's Hegarty, right? 

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Yeah. 
Is it Irish? 

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Yes, right. 
It's a weird name. 

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It's a double whammy of Weird A.
Far Farrell Hegarty. 

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Yeah, I really like it. 
FH Farah Hegarty. 

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Someone will always get it 
wrong. 

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Or Pharrell. 
People say Pharrell all the 

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time. 
Yeah, I was. 

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I did say this is it Pharrell? 
She's like, like what? 

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Like Williams? 
Like Williams? 

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Yeah. 
No, no, it's not. 

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It's never one. 
It makes me sound cooler though 

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I think when people say 
Pharrell. 

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I think Farrell's cool. 
Do you? 

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Thanks, I'll roll with it. 
No choice. 

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I'll introduce you. 
You are an amazing actress. 

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She's also a content creator as 
well. 

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One of us gay and I have I've 
been following you for a little 

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while and I've been watching 
your tick tocks, your reels, and

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I'm sure those who are listening
and watching right now has also 

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seen it pop up because everyone 
does so well and the amount of 

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your videos that get sent over 
to me directly as well. 

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Yeah, all the time. 
And and so I'm I'm sure that you

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guys have already bear witness 
to barrel. 

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Good. 
But if you haven't, then welcome

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and thank you so much for coming
on barrel. 

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Thanks for having. 
Me, yeah, I wanted to, I wanted 

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to say just first of all, how 
relatable your videos are. 

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Oh, thanks. 
As someone who is quite hectic 

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in the brain, gay like. 
Is this me? 

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Yeah, no, literally over 30s 
disorganised. 

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Disorganised. 
All of this is just like ticking

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a box for me and I'm like, yeah,
that's brilliant. 

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Oh, that's genius. 
The. 

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Disorganised stuff is I have 
it's have a rage bait, a 

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relatability. 
I'll get messages being like, 

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this is stressing me out. 
I've did. 

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I once filmed my my desktop, 
yeah, of like the chaos nurse. 

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And I had like the Sony message 
being like, can I just come over

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to your house and just organise 
your life? 

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And I was like, yes, please. 
It's just, yeah, I'm just one of

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those. 
It's actually quite a good way 

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to get some like free PA OH. 
Yeah, and it's not painting. 

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Can you come over and start out 
please? 

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I need. 
Help Too far. 

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I'd gone out with my best friend
for like a lunch and I was 

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talking to her about it and I 
had my laptop on and actually 

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like audibly gasped. 
She's like, how do you live like

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this? 
Like, and then The thing is when

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you organise it, I can't find 
anything that's not on my 

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desktop. 
So it takes. 

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So then the organising is a 
waste. 

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Why would you do that? 
I'm just going to have to refind

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it all over again now I know my 
mess. 

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Thank you. 
So my mess. 

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I know it's underneath this file
somewhere. 

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There it is. 
Oh, I'm like, I'm chaos. 

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No, but the way that you deliver
the relatability is what's so 

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good about it. 
I also get so sucked into all 

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the different characters that 
you do because I'm watching it 

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and I'm like fully believing 
that it's no longer you doing 

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all the. 
Sometimes I do watch myself and 

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I'm like, you know, I am 
straight man. 

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Jonathan. 
That's yeah. 

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And I've, I was like, because 
for me, I'm like, OK, in this 

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scene, I'm going to, you know, 
be I don't know, man. 

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And then I just put a hats on. 
I'm like, I'm lady with glasses 

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now, just like. 
And I when I watch some people's

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content, they're like, they've 
got like full wig for like full.

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You know, the art department 
department has gone all out and 

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I've just put a hat on. 
You just like put on like a 

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checkered shirt or you put on 
like a suit jacket and you're. 

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Like the girl I film with Jess, 
I literally go into the room, I 

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come out as I write different 
characters now and she's like, 

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wow, you're unrecognizable. 
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back. 
So it's like, ah, glasses. 

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She was like, do we think non 
glasses for this? 

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I was like, I'm thinking that no
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Like sometimes I don't use a 
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I'm just like it's fine. 
But it works. 

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This is what I'm saying. 
I don't know how you've managed 

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to make it work. 
That's just fine. 

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I'm. 
Driving a school train and I'm 

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like, it's the same voice, just 
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If I faced a different way, 
you'll never know. 

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Train, I love that. 
And I was just saying to you 

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before we were rolling that like
I value funny over everything. 

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So I love the way you're able to
just like portray just like 

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normal day shit, like especially
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which I struggle with all the 
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Or, you know, and just find a 
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make it good. 
Because I've always got these 

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ideas in my head and then I'm 
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Do that. 
And also it's, it's, it's, it's 

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work. 
Sometimes I'm doing that. 

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I'm like, well, have I written 
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And it's like, you know, I'm, 
I've got and got myself to 

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blame. 
Yeah, I've written this like, 

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oh, OK, I reckon 5 characters. 
I've written something for radio

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at the minute and I've written 
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in and I'm like, why have I done
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And I've got to play them all. 
Stretch. 

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Yourself and. 
I'm just like never got two 

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weeks like rehearse it and I'm 
just and it's my own fault. 

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Yeah, but I feel like this is 
good though, because obviously, 

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I mean, you've been in actress 
for how long? 

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Well, I went to drama school, 
graduated like 2010, so I've 

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been trying to be an actress for
a long time. 2010 Was that 

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graduated? 
Was that in London? 

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Yeah, I went to drama school in 
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How was that? 
Do you remember I? 

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Was like BC like I was. 
I loved it. 

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When I look back now, I'm like, 
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it was probably quite 
problematic. 

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Yeah. 
But I was just like la, la, la, 

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la I I make like met loads of 
great friends there. 

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Yeah. 
Like there, it was a lot of hard

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work. 
It wasn't like normal uni where 

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I, some of my friends went, oh, 
you went to a lecture, you know,

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for like an hour and then have 
two days off. 

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Yeah. 
We were like, it was like 9 to 

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half six every day. 
And if you didn't come, it was 

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like, where are you? 
Are you dead? 

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Yeah, because you have you. 
Just yeah, Yeah. 

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And also you got into drama 
school, which was like, you just

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got yourself looking. 
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Definitely. 100% and also you're
there was a bunch of thespians, 

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everyone's thespians and I'm 
quite keen. 

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They are, yeah. 
Keen to impress? 

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That's a gagging for it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I imagine how they feel though, 
the ones that are like that, you

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know, when you hear those 
stories of like, just like 

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working in a, in a cafe and then
this director just came up to me

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and I bet they're. 
Not I've been in my like 

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audition for like 4 years on the
trot to get in or they'd be like

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been like trying for ages or, or
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then like 24, but that was like 
oh, you're an older student, 20.

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40 God, I remember that. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, and so you've been mainly 
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So you've been like Coronation 
Street and also Emmerdale as 

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well as I? 
Did an episode of Emmerdale. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it was in the crossover.

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In the crossover, yeah. 
It was like 2014. 

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I just had like one app where I 
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I just had a scene where I just 
was in in the kitchen in the 

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morning and she was like, who 
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And I was just like and then 
walked off. 

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I'd like 2 lines. 
Fantastic breakthrough. 

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That's And then how did you get 
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Do they see you after the one 
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They were like, yes, yes, get 
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get her in like yeah, no, just 
on you send like, well, nowadays

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you send a self tape off and 
then and also you don't really 

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think anything of it because you
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You just like, I never get my 
hopes up. 

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I'm like, you know, people are 
like, oh, I manifested this. 

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I'm the opposite. 
I'm like, I'm like, Nah, I won't

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get it. 
And then they're not always 

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pleasantly supply prize if 
something comes up. 

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Yeah, so and then you go for a 
screen test. 

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So on the screen test day, they 
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for a new couple. 
And so they put you up with like

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it was like 5 girls, 5 boys. 
And so you went in and like read

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with. 
So I was there. 

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You saw it, saw your 
competition. 

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Oh, when I never run up. 
So then you go in and do a whole

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screen test like on set, which 
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That is no. 
Full scene, obviously like 

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people. 
And your competition is that 

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they're watching it, too. 
Yeah, or they don't watch. 

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But they were good. 
You don't see how people do but 

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do. 
You know what though? 

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So brutal. 
But why do I want it like to 

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have to sit there and watch 
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You'd have loved drama school 
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Loads of drama school auditions 
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Oh yeah, no, I did. 
I did drama at school and I did.

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You were like, Lap just got no 
competition in me. 

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Yeah, you know, you go through. 
I'd always got first. 

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Well, get it done, get it done. 
I just thought I was the dog 

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Spollocks because I got a role 
as the lion in the Motown 

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version of the Wizard of Oz. 
It was called the Wiz. 

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Yeah, I know the Wiz. 
I was in a like an amateur 

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production when I was like total
me. 

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Oh, I was like ensemble. 
Oh, I was like, I was the lion, 

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actually. 
So I don't know. 

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I don't know what to tell you. 
Yeah, don't brag, but I was 

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like, I was like a background 
person 3. 

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Yeah, no #3 yeah. 
The lion that's big. 

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It was a big deal. 
Yeah, it's a big deal. 

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I made it a big deal. 
I made it A1. 

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Problem in it like no it's on my
TV. 

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It's honestly one of the best 
things I've ever fucking done. 

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But Joy, tell everyone, yeah, 
I'm going to say footage. 

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I'm. 
Going to say it was on 

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somewhere. 
It was going to dig that up. 

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What? 
I think it was like 20. 

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I'd say like 2009. 
OK, I reckon, but someone. 

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Got it. 
Somewhere they some home camera?

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Yeah, in somewhere. 
In a dusty shelf somewhere. 

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My mum is going to watch this 
and be like got in. 

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It Yes, it's under the bed. 
Yeah, in the shoe box. 

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No, it was bad, but I used to 
love acting. 

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But then I was I was more into 
music, so I was like trying to 

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go down more of the music route 
and all that. 

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Yeah, whatever. 
I mean, I just, I was like, 

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what's going to make me no 
money? 

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Music drama. 
Music drama. 

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Oh, you know, and. 
Someone was, I was working in a 

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restaurant and she was like, oh,
were you an I was telling about 

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being an actress. 
It was like the owner's wife or 

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something. 
She said, oh, did you go into 

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that because you want to be 
rich? 

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I was like, you're on drugs, 
right? 

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And no one goes into like you 
hope to maybe one day earn a bit

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of money. 
Like my first job was for £150 

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and I was like, Oh my God, guys,
you can't. 

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We couldn't afford to eat. 
Most actually. 

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I knew like you scrimp and say 
like there's no money in it 

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until you're in something and 
even then like. 

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Yeah, and even then they're a 
bit like, oh, but actually Jacob

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Belaudi is in this and he's 
getting paid five millisecond up

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on the budget. 
So you, how much you? 

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Want do you put away? 
Yeah. 

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Like. 
It's happy for the experience. 

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Yeah, I'm just happy to be here.
Like, oh, I think yeah, people 

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are a bit. 
Sometimes I think people are a 

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bit naive, just like stuff like 
that. 

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Like, because it is like a job 
enactor is a thing, like, and 

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also you kind of get one role. 
I've got to know so many of my 

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friends that have like been 
doing amazing, amazing things. 

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Like was on the West End or then
they went and did a big show and

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did it. 
And then in the summer comes and

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they're like, oh, I'm just back 
working in an ice cream bar, 

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which he's like, there's nothing
wrong with that. 

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But people are like, oh, oh, how
the mighty have fallen. 

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I'm like bitch I need. 
To survive, people need to 

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survive, that's the thing. 
And also, you might be earning, 

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you know, 50 grand in six 
months, but then there might be 

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two years we haven't worked 
actually. 

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Like that doesn't even match. 
Do the baths on that mate, do 

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you know what I mean? 
So it's like. 

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Yeah. 
So what like talking about that?

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What's your now current kind of 
situation then within acting 

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you? 
Did you leave Coronation Street?

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So I was in it for six months 
and then my character went to 

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prison. 
Prison sheet. 

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I mean, I love it. 
From one night stand to prison. 

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I know. 
You do it so well. 

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I was like, is that an uphill 
climb or is that? 

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Do more of you just in prison. 
Well, I was like, so that they 

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call me back and they were like,
we're going to do a prison 

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storyline, which he's just 
finished airing. 

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And I in my head, I was like 
prison storyline. 

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I was like, am I going to be in 
bad girls? 

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I was like, am I? 
I was like, I'm thinking, you 

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know, do you remember bad girls?
I do remember bad girls. 

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I've like a lot of stuff went 
on. 

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I was like, I imagine I was 
like, they're going to call me 

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back. 
You gonna see me back in prison?

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I've like gonna be hanging off 
the handkerchief of like the 

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Butch girl who like runs the 
prison. 

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You're not gonna be the Butch 
girl, because that would be a 

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really funny turn. 
She's six months and she's like.

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She's a big. 
Boob, she's orange. 

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Is the new black. 
Yeah, yeah, yes. 

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You're running ship. 
Yeah, she's got a few tattoos. 

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Yeah, she's just like, bad 
bitch. 

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Yeah. 
I was like, I had all these 

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ideas. 
They were like, no, it's not. 

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It's not that storyline. 
I was like, OK, well I mean my 

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character is super straight to 
be fair. 

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OK, well, we need to start a 
petition. 

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I'm sorry. 
She's so straight, she's in 

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prison. 
So many. 

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Hello. 
How many happens? 

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Yeah, I might. 
I might pitch it. 

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I was like, look, we're going to
bring come back to prison. 

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There's a few things I want to 
put written into my contract 

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that I think need to happen. 
Scissoring, yeah. 

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Like at Farrell, it airs at 
7:30. 

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Like listen, it's called Give 
the people what they want. 

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It's called equality. 
Yeah. 

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Sorry, I don't know what to say.
And so you're playing straight 

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characters. 
I see. 

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Did you have to do that in your 
real life as well? 

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I want to know a little bit 
about your your queer 

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experience. 
Is it bad? 

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It sounds bad by the cough that 
you just. 

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Well, it's a set up for this 
one. 

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I need to take it in, take a 
breath and like, really settle 

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into my emotions. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I dated, I guess mainly 
men for quite a long time. 

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I think I had AI had a 
girlfriend when I was 1516. 

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Oh wow. 
So yeah. 

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I was like in the mix of it, 
yeah. 

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And then then after that, I sort
of don't know what happened 

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really. 
I'm really good friends with my 

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first girlfriend. 
She's like, what happened? 

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And I'm like, sorry, she was 
like, was it me? 

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Like it's not your fault. 
I can't blame you for the and 

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then like sort of dated like I 
stayed women and men. 

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And then I think when we never, 
it never happened. 

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I think I looked back and I was 
dating like the people that I 

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don't I think we're from. 
I just it didn't just didn't 

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work. 
Yeah. 

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So you went through this, this 
period of life where you were 

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dating both sexes. 
So were you just saying that you

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were bisexual? 
But I think no, yeah. 

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So I was bisexual. 
I was out by for like a long 

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time. 
And then I got with someone, I 

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got with a guy. 
And then we, it's because I 

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really, I don't really speak 
about this on my channel at all.

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And I've only spoke about it 
once. 

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But so we were together for six 
years and we got married. 

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So I'm divorced but we were 
married for six months, which in

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my head sounds really bad but at
the time it felt like a lot. 

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Oh my God, first of all, 
divorced. 

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Hot. 
I'm a divorcee. 

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Yeah, right. 
So you were married for six 

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months. 
How long were you together 

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before? 
It sounds so bad. 

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I was like in my that's what I 
say. 

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I was like, I'm basically like a
Kardashian. 

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I don't know if you've heard 
everyone's like, you know, but I

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like it's got to the point now 
where I like kind of own being a

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divorcee. 
I quite like. 

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It I think it's. 
Like I'm divorced and like I see

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myself when I'm older. 
Like talking about it like with 

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like pearls and like a fur 
jacket with like a long 

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cigarette holding like my second
marriage. 

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Yeah, I think everyone should 
get divorced once. 

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Just try and give it a go. 
You know how it goes. 

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The first have a. 
Nice day. 

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Yeah, it's always been like 
great wedding, not so great 

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marriage, but yeah, it just. 
How long were you together 

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before you got married? 
Six years. 

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Oh, OK, that was six years and 
six months. 

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There's a theme going on here. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Was like any working sixes. 
OK, How old are you? 

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When you got married? 
Oh God, how old am I now 

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30313132? 
You were 3132 when you got 

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married. 
Yeah, so this wasn't going to 

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go. 
I got divorced at the start of 

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22. 
OK. 

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So it's been four years. 
OK, this is pretty exciting for 

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me. 
Yeah. 

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So I'm just trying to like wind 
it back. 

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So what kind of wedding was it? 
Was it like a big? 

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Wedding. 
It was big. 

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Yeah. 
Big, big yeah. 

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I had a great dad, great time. 
Just didn't. 

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I've got the fear. 
Be listening, sorry. 

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I just didn't, yeah, it just 
didn't wasn't good. 

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It wasn't great. 
But The thing is, from 

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experience of talking to people,
I feel like they want me to be 

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like, oh, you were gay and 
that's why you got divorced. 

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And I was like, I don't think 
that's what happened. 

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I think I got divorced because 
of miserable and I didn't have a

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great time. 
It was not fun. 

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It was really, really hard. 
And then when we broke up, I was

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like, right, OK, ready to start 
dating again. 

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Who do I want to date? 
Is it? 

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And I was like, in my head I was
like, right, I'm bi, so I date 

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men and women and then men just 
never happened. 

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And then the idea of ever being 
with a man again just makes me 

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feel like I'm on the nemesis, 
like. 

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This can happen, right? 
And I think the worst thing, 

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from what I can kind of 
understand of like what you've 

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been through on that, though, is
how people will invalidate your 

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experience of that being a 
shitty marriage. 

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Yeah, if that makes sense. 
Yeah. 

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Because then they're like, no, 
it wasn't. 

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You're just gay. 
And I think that would be very 

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frustrating for me to. 
Hear. 

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Yeah, well, I think this is what
happened because everyone's 

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like, oh, like, oh, you left 
because you were gay. 

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And I'm like, but like, I didn't
leave because I I left because 

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I'm happy. 
But don't get me wrong. 

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Look, I've looked back now and 
there's so many things that I 

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did and said and thought about 
in that situation where I was 

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like, oh, that's like, I think I
blamed a lot of my thoughts of 

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being bi. 
I think also maybe just the 

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signs were there, and I think 
that they're really, really 

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difficult to see when we've 
grown up in such a 

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heteronormative society. 
Yeah, you know, and there is 

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that level of indoctrination 
there in a sense. 

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And I also do think that I think
we're like a similar age. 

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I'm 32 now. 
Like the world was very 

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different when we were growing 
up. 

393
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There is definitely more 
representation now, still not 

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enough, but more than there ever
was. 

395
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So I think it's really, really 
difficult. 

396
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I think as well what we kind of 
knew as lesbians were the types 

397
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of Ellen, Rosie, O'Donnell, 
etcetera, that were very like 

398
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lesbian, right? 
And, and you know that, you 

399
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know, the thought of sleeping 
with a man or something would 

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utterly repulse them. 
And This is why I try and say on

401
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here, it's not that black and 
white. 

402
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It's not the fact that it's 
absolutely disgusting and 

403
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vulgar. 
That's that doesn't mean that 

404
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,359
you're not not gay if you don't 
feel that way when you're 

405
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sleeping with them. 
Does that make sense? 

406
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,319
But but it's about actually 
having a connection with a woman

407
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and that deeper love. 
And there is definitely, I mean,

408
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I would say would would suspect 
that there's more desire there, 

409
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etcetera. 
But it's not about being like 

410
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utterly repulsive. 
It's just like something just 

411
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isn't right. 
Right, Yeah. 

412
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And it's been difficult from 
coming out of it as well. 

413
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I think that because from dating
women and I did have like some 

414
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difficult experiences of like I 
didn't realise how hard it would

415
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be for some people to date 
someone who's had so much of A 

416
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,600
past with men or with one man or
stuff like that. 

417
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,760
It's almost like this like how, 
how can you do that and then be 

418
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be this like, I don't trust 
that. 

419
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There's a lot of trust issues 
there. 

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And I didn't think that because 
I was like guys, I in my head, I

421
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was like, I'm a sure bet I but I
just landed whole mountain like 

422
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I did just like dip my toe in. 
I went in. 

423
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You were dedicated. 
I was dedicated and I'm still 

424
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here being like, I don't want 
any of that. 

425
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,640
Yeah, I'm here. 
Yeah, guys, for somebody, 

426
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,200
believe me, I was. 
Like I'm a sure bet guys, I 

427
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don't want to go back to my 
life. 

428
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,560
So like dating, I thought was 
like difficult, as I said 

429
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before, it was like this thing 
of I found a lot of it was how 

430
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,480
could you not know from, you 
know, I've got friends that or 

431
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,000
people, people were like, oh, I 
knew since I was 8. 

432
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,680
How do you not know that? 
I knew since I was 10 or 

433
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whatever and I was like, I'm not
you. 

434
00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:30,600
I'm not a. 
Fucking competition. 

435
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,520
No, I'm like, and it I found 
that really difficult because 

436
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,640
I've got so many queer mates who
came out at, you know, 1617 and 

437
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,160
have, you know, being queer all 
the life and they don't have the

438
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,760
same thought as as people are 
dated. 

439
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,280
They were just like, what? 
Why does it matter? 

440
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,240
Like date you're on a date like 
does if you came out yesterday. 

441
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I don't care that as long as 
there's a connection or 

442
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whatever. 
It's like a journey for 

443
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,800
everyone. 
Like everyone's experience is so

444
00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,400
entirely different. 
Like I know I'm categorically so

445
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,720
fucking gay. 
It's actually getting a bit 

446
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840
outrageous, right? 
But I used to sleep with men and

447
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520
I used to be with men. 
Just because that happened does 

448
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,880
not in any way invalidate me or 
my queerness or whatever. 

449
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Just fucking let them as well. 
Like just say what you fucking 

450
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want. 
Be like, yeah, all right, all 

451
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,520
right. 
But then when you are actively 

452
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,040
trying to date though that must 
have been annoying because 

453
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,440
you're like why would I lie as? 
Well, and I just, yeah, it was 

454
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,320
difficult. 
Like I remember my first date. 

455
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,480
I think I'd been like single 
like 8 months. 

456
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,080
I was like, right, I'm ready. 
I'm only going to go on a date 

457
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:32,880
now. 
I'm On this date. 

458
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,200
It was someone absolutely lovely
and like she's we kind of still 

459
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,760
a bit in contact and she was 
great. 

460
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,240
And she's only really happy 
relationship now and we bonded 

461
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:49,080
over like she'd come out at like
32 and and then I was coming out

462
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,800
of this marriage. 
So we were bonded over like 

463
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,160
Arabic at the list of rejection.
We'd she was like, just like 

464
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520
people don't want to date me 
because I've like, I'm new here.

465
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,320
But I was like, it took me a 
long time and I'm sorry and, but

466
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,640
it's funny because I don't want 
people to hear this and like 

467
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,640
think about like coming out and 
be scared of it because I was 

468
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,600
like, for one person who doesn't
want to date you, there's like 

469
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,600
1000 people who were just like. 
Not you are like, I don't care 

470
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,720
where you come from. 
I don't care what your back 

471
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,440
story is. 
Yeah. 

472
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,120
Like if I like you, I like you 
and that's it is that should be 

473
00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:18,280
all that. 
Literally. 

474
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,240
It really is that simple. 
And if someone doesn't want to 

475
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560
date you, like I've always like 
let them. 

476
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,080
And I, I think I learned that 
the hard way. 

477
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160
I should have just, I went 
dating someone and it was 

478
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,160
difficult and I should have just
been like, oh, this is not you 

479
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,120
don't want me. 
Instead of like being a bit of a

480
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:34,280
beg. 
I think as well, like totally 

481
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,960
right. 
It's like either you like me or 

482
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,680
you don't. 
Yeah, I just, I couldn't care, 

483
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,160
you know, and and that is the 
thing when you're getting to 

484
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,600
know somebody, that part should 
be then completely irrelevant. 

485
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,960
And but what it does all come 
down to though, is insecurity. 

486
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:49,800
So you know that that person 
that's initially got a problem 

487
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,400
with you for being with a man 
before they're going to be a 

488
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,720
fucking night time for? 
That I always think I'm, like, 

489
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520
listening to a conversation like
this is because you're insecure.

490
00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,840
But I can't say that word to 
you. 

491
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,200
Yeah, I'm like, OK, we'll work 
on this. 

492
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,040
Let's talk it through. 
Like that Sounds like a you 

493
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,440
problem, yeah. 
Yeah, that sounds like a you 

494
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,840
problem. 
Again, I'm like how do I reword 

495
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,360
this so it sounds nicer? 
But if it's something that you 

496
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,600
can't change, you can't change 
your past, it's not ever 

497
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800
something that you should 
apologise for or have to grovel 

498
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,360
for. 
I have to. 

499
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,120
Prove. 
Yeah. 

500
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,720
And I think I learned that as 
well, 'cause I think coming out 

501
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,000
of it, I feel like I was like, 
Oh my God, you need to like 

502
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,960
delete all this. 
I raise this, not talk about 

503
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,200
this, not, not do this, like, 
you know, not address it. 

504
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240
And I'm like, but that was a 
part of my life. 

505
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,800
And I am a bit like, well, I 
didn't get here without doing 

506
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,560
all that. 
As much as you might not like 

507
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,520
it. 
Like I'm a hard Rd. 

508
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,360
I mean, I went, yeah, I went, I 
went reverse back. 

509
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,040
Bumped into a few posts. 
They're like actually accepting 

510
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,600
that yourself though. 
Was there like a moment or? 

511
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,720
Like it was talking of like a 
slow burn. 

512
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,640
I remember since I was with my 
friend when I was about dating 

513
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,400
again, I was like, right, I 
think I'm ready to start dating 

514
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,360
again. 
I remember saying to me, she was

515
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,600
like, when are you dating again?
Are you what are you looking 

516
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,680
for? 
Are you looking for men and 

517
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240
women? 
And I was like, I don't think 

518
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,640
I'm going to date men. 
I just think I'm going to date 

519
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,160
women. 
And she looks at me. 

520
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,880
Shrem, It's obviously your 
choice, but Shrem, you know 

521
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,520
you're gay, right? 
And I was like, Oh my. 

522
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,560
God, I love that. 
And she went, obviously you can 

523
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,800
if you want. 
And I went, I don't want to. 

524
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,960
She went, I know you don't want 
to. 

525
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,320
And I don't know why you're even
like even slightly contemplating

526
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,120
it because like you don't want 
to she. 

527
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,080
Was just like you. 
Just really. 

528
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,320
Don't want to do she just got 
back. 

529
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,560
I mean, I've noticed since I was
16. 

530
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,400
So she was like, you do know? 
No, but that's a good friend. 

531
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,040
Yeah, that's a really good. 
She was like, I don't want to 

532
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,960
see you have a man again. 
I was like, I don't even. 

533
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,800
Do you think that you kind of 
like pushed the bisexual thing 

534
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,800
for longer because of that? 
Like did you struggle ever 

535
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,560
coming to? 
Town, I think, you know, comp 

536
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,160
compare yeah Oh my God, I relate
to that so much when I read 

537
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,560
about it. 
So I was like came up on Tiktok 

538
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,120
and I was like, what is this? 
And then I was like, there was a

539
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,840
girl like explaining that I was 
like, Oh my God, this is, I 

540
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,400
relate to that so much of like 
feeling like, I remember being 

541
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,080
like in my early 20s and I'd 
gone on a date, a dating this 

542
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,640
girl went on like 5 dates or 
something. 

543
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,920
And I remember having this 
feeling of like, well, it 

544
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,840
doesn't matter because I, I will
end up with you. 

545
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160
And I had this thing of like, 
you'll marry a man, you will be 

546
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,200
with a man. 
And I think if I'd have sat in 

547
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,600
it or been a bit, or that would 
have happened in my 30s, I 

548
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,760
probably would have sat with it 
a bit more and be like, but is 

549
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,120
this what you want? 
Or is this what you think other 

550
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,440
people want for you? 
Or like, you know, there's all 

551
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,160
that thing of like when a man 
finds you attractive, it's 

552
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,200
almost like this psychological 
thing you've like, oh, maybe do 

553
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560
I your validation or like, do I 
fancy him back? 

554
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,200
And it's like, do you fancy him 
back? 

555
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,120
You probably didn't. 
You just like the attention a 

556
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,760
bit. 
Or like this feeling of like, 

557
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,040
well, we've been taught like we,
we like to feel liked or 

558
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840
something, rather than being 
like, actually, I fancy you make

559
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Claire so. 
Claire's Claire. 

560
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,600
Yeah. 
Is Claire single or something? 

561
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,160
No, but it is true. 
I remember doing that for so 

562
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920
long. 
Like I remember wanting to get 

563
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,640
that validation from men even 
though I wasn't interested in 

564
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,400
them at all. 
Like I do not categorically want

565
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,960
to sleep with you, but do I want
you to want to sleep with me? 

566
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,400
That's fucking and now I'm like,
I can just block out because I 

567
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000
think I think it takes some time
to really remove that though. 

568
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,600
That took me so long to actually
I had to like brainwash myself 

569
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080
to be like, OK, because it is 
just always fed into like if you

570
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,240
think about it every single day,
like Disney movies or it's like 

571
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,400
having the Prince that's 
rescuing and any film, like 

572
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,240
literally any kind of like 
content that you would consume. 

573
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,360
Miss magazine. 
Oh. 

574
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,360
My God, I don't like sugar. 
Yeah, I was like I was make the 

575
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,920
guy like you in 10 easy steps. 
I know. 

576
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,400
You're 14, well, your shortest 
shirt, and you're like. 

577
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,160
Get your tits out. 
Yeah, I'm 12. 

578
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, remember the push up brows

579
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,720
as well. 
I used to wear I. 

580
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,560
Used to have one of those that 
pulled together. 

581
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,560
Did you? 
Yeah. 

582
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,440
I had a wonder bra that like 
pulled together. 

583
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,000
I got pictures of me like going 
to like an underage night and I 

584
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,360
was like 14. 
I was like, I look like an 

585
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,200
absolute hurt. 
Yeah. 

586
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Yeah. 
Oh, and now I'm like, I wanna 

587
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,280
wear the comfortable shoes. 
Yeah, I I like fall on like what

588
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,880
would we go around snogging boys
and we talk about how many boys 

589
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,720
would. 
And now I'm like, what was 

590
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,600
what's that about? 
And also I look back, this is 

591
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,440
like for every session as well. 
I've evaluated like every IA Lot

592
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280
of the guys that I dated was 
because I found out they liked 

593
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,120
me first. 
Do you know me? 

594
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,840
And I'm like the validation 
thing. 

595
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,040
I'm like, oh, so and so fancies 
you. 

596
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,320
You know, I'm like, oh, cool, 
let's give him a go. 

597
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880
Let's date for three months. 
Even though you don't want to 

598
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,680
get married, let's get married. 
Oh, gosh, Bless him. 

599
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,920
Oh, God. 
Yeah. 

600
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000
But. 
You've come out the other end, 

601
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,400
I've come out the other end and 
you have a lovely girlfriend as 

602
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,880
well. 
How long have you guys been 

603
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,880
together? 
2 1/2 years. 

604
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000
Well done. 
It's 50 years in lesbian years. 

605
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,800
It's. 50 years, It's 100 when 
you're a long distance. 

606
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Yeah, I wanted to talk to you 
about this because lesbians we 

607
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,520
all know. 
It so gay, isn't it? 

608
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,640
We all know long distance so 
well, so well. 

609
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240
It's like a rite passage. 
You're like having to tick all 

610
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,640
the boxes as soon as you came 
out of that. 

611
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,360
My mate was like, I remember she
said to me she was like, I've 

612
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:04,240
been gay since I was 16 and I've
done some gay shit but this is 

613
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,280
the gayest thing I've ever 
heard. 

614
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Oh, it's deep. 
It's deeply gay because not only

615
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,600
is she long distance, she's also
long distance Australia, right? 

616
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,760
She's in Australia, everyone's 
like where she is. 

617
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,640
It like Edinburgh, long distance
like I wish a car journey. 

618
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560
I've got 2424 hours on a grand 
and a half later. 

619
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520
So I had to know how did this 
start so. 

620
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,760
It gets gayer. 
We met outside Manchester Pride 

621
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,280
at 1:00 AM outside Vanilla Bar. 
Right, that'll do it. 

622
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,960
Manchester is already gay 
enough. 

623
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,640
Tick. 
Vanilla bar, tick. 

624
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,160
Pride tick. 
My. 

625
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,160
She's Australian. 
Tick. 

626
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,440
That's also is she Australian? 
She, no, she's originally from 

627
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Stafford, but she's, she's lived
there for quite a long time. 

628
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,880
She's lived there about 10 
years. 

629
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,440
OK, all right, so talk me 
through it. 

630
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480
So you met her outside of a 
club, my friends? 

631
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,920
I went to your Manchester Pride 
and my mates, a gay couple, I 

632
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,760
think everyone's going home and 
they were like, we'll take you 

633
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,320
to where the lesbians are 
because I've never been to 

634
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,200
Manchester Pride before. 
This way it's like followers are

635
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,520
like, right, take us to the 
lesbians. 

636
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,320
And there is literally a corner 
of Manchester Pride where all 

637
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,200
the lesbians just stand. 
And I was like, because you go 

638
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,360
through and it's just like a 
mixture of everyone and then you

639
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,600
just get to this corner. 
All of a sudden it's just a flux

640
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,400
of flux of women. 
I was like, oh, hey, guys, it's 

641
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,880
like, and you just have to and 
everyone knows everyone because 

642
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,520
we've gone the year after as 
well. 

643
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600
And this everyone's like, oh, 
hey, how you doing? 

644
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Oh, yeah. 
And like everyone's like the X 

645
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,400
is X is X. 
It's so incestuous. 

646
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,840
I'm just like, but we walked 
past each other and I would say 

647
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
it's quite romantic. 
But then in my head I'm like, 

648
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,960
well, we just really, really 
drunk. 

649
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,120
And we just actually walked past
each other. 

650
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,600
And as we walked past, we kind 
of like half pumped shoulders 

651
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,680
and we grabbed each other's 
hands from behind and then 

652
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,040
turned and we both did this 
weird like, no, none of us had 

653
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000
had was brave enough to speak. 
So we just stared at Shivan just

654
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,360
went. 
And I think she said that my 

655
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,400
first line was you're hot. 
Are you single? 

656
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,600
It's real poetry. 
That is really. 

657
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,920
That's real. 
Yeah, that's going to do it. 

658
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
So that would work on me. 
You're hot. 

659
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Are you single? 
Straight in there? 

660
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,520
It's 1:00 AM. 
Show me. 

661
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840
It's 1:00 AM I was out. 
Probably levered. 

662
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,360
I actually really like the hand,
I think. 

663
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800
I don't think that is like a gay
thing, a gay thing, a drunk 

664
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,680
thing. 
Yeah. 

665
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,800
I think maybe looking at each 
other for a little bit before 

666
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960
speaking was probably a bit of 
like both gay and drunk. 

667
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Just. 
I've had that though as well. 

668
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,560
You know, when you're like, you 
think someone's really 

669
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,000
attractive and all of a sudden 
I. 

670
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,960
Just say it. 
All the call has gone out the 

671
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,160
window though for me. 
That's the thing. 

672
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,240
I will say it, but I did not in 
a, not in a call, no. 

673
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800
It wasn't. 
It's like, hey, have you had A 

674
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
and I had nothing, had nothing. 
You're hot. 

675
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,720
It's like in a drunk, he's not 
of an accent as well. 

676
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,160
You're single love. 
It's like someone's dad, like, 

677
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
oh God. 
Did you give it your phone back?

678
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Put. 
Your number on there like give 

679
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,000
it like a tissue kissed it. 
What happened after that? 

680
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Was she like? 
I remember just like, I remember

681
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,720
she was with two friends and you
know, you're like trying to 

682
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,840
gauge the situation of like. 
And also she, I would say this 

683
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,480
afterwards, she gives nothing 
away. 

684
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680
So I was like, I don't know if 
you're like instantly in love 

685
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880
with me or you hate my guts. 
I don't know. 

686
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
She's because she's she's like, 
I'm no a diversion. 

687
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,000
I can't know what I'm doing. 
And so she we just sort of 

688
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
stared at each other. 
I was like, So what you what you

689
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,000
do? 
We had no chat. 

690
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,240
It was so bleak. 
And then we stopped numbers and 

691
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,120
then I went back to my friends 
because you know, you're like, I

692
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,120
don't want to just hang out with
you and your mates because you 

693
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
could be like, what you doing 
here? 

694
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,120
Don't be a don't be a latch. 
So I went back to my friends and

695
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280
I remember my friends were like,
what are you still doing here? 

696
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,520
Why aren't you talking to the 
hot girl? 

697
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,960
I was like, I can't ditch my 
mates. 

698
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,960
I'm not that sort of person. 
And they were like, fuck off, we

699
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,280
don't care. 
And it was like, we've been 

700
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,840
together. 
They've been together 10 years. 

701
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,440
I'm like, we want to go home and
have a cup of tea. 

702
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400
We don't want to be here. 
We're just here for you. 

703
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
And I was like, oh, I'm like, 
oh, we're going to go home now. 

704
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,840
I was like, oh, where's she 
gone? 

705
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,640
So they're like, don't find her.
And anyway, I just, I left and I

706
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,880
was like, I'm just going to go 
home. 

707
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,920
And there's a point where I was 
just like, why are you going to 

708
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,360
go home when you know you have 
that? 

709
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,880
I had the beer. 
Yeah, like I. 

710
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080
Can do this. 
So I just text her and I 

711
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
remember I had to go out and 
find signal because there's no 

712
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,040
signal because obviously there's
only people there. 

713
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720
So I stood on the street for 
ages trying to get signal acting

714
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,400
real cooler. 
Hey, I was just hanging out for 

715
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,000
a drink. 
I wasn't. 

716
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,240
Meanwhile, you're like this. 
I was stood on the street corner

717
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400
waiting for single, like waiting
for the dots as she's typing. 

718
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
I was like, oh, maybe if you 
want to have a drink tonight, 

719
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000
like we could hang out. 
I think I told her I was like, 

720
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,760
yeah, we swept about. 
I was like, no, I went. 

721
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360
I was actually standing on the 
street corner waiting for you to

722
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,040
text you back or I was gonna go 
home. 

723
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,040
You've uploaded like a story 
that's like you and your 

724
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080
friends, Amelia being like still
going. 

725
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Yeah, really just stood on your 
own. 

726
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,160
I was like, like a pride and. 
This is adorable. 

727
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,600
Though I was like, well, I'm 
only it's like now or never, 

728
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,640
because also she told me at that
point that she lived in Sydney. 

729
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,600
So I was like, this is not going
to go anywhere. 

730
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,920
But I was like, let's hang out. 
And her and her friends had gone

731
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200
to this bar in the Northern 
Quarter, which it was a 

732
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,600
straightest bar. 
I was like, it's pride. 

733
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
There's like gays everywhere and
we're surrounded by there was I 

734
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760
remember there was a we were sat
talking and there was a man sat 

735
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360
next to us and this woman was 
like straddling him, snogging. 

736
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
I was like, where are we she? 
Was really turned on by all 

737
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960
those gay men in like the hot 
pants and the lesbians walking 

738
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,600
around. 
She's like, coming. 

739
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Hey, Jonathan. 
I was like, it was weird because

740
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,840
we talk about it now and we, we 
kind of were like quite awkward 

741
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,600
with each other. 
Her friends said to I can't 

742
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480
believe you spoke to someone 
because she was like, I never 

743
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,040
speak to anyone. 
Like the idea of speaking to 

744
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,800
someone. 
So the I think I was drunk 

745
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,400
enough that I was quite brave 
speaking to you. 

746
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,120
And then we spent three weeks 
together. 

747
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Wow, all that is Joe. 
What just gets gayer and gayer, 

748
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,480
doesn't it? 
Three weeks not even leave. 

749
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Well, she had three weeks left 
of her trip, so I was like, well

750
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040
come and stay with me in London 
and then do this and do that and

751
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
we just spent the whole time. 
Actually, that is cute. 

752
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,040
OK. 
And then she then goes back over

753
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720
to Sydney. 
How are you now maintaining this

754
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,840
and like, how are you finding 
it? 

755
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Do you have any tips for the 
lesbians that are in long 

756
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,760
distance relationships? 
Like that's a, that's a hefty 1.

757
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640
It was, I think at the beginning
it was kind of like we're just 

758
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
going to see how it goes. 
And I was like, should I go out 

759
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,960
and see? 
I was like, well, I may as well 

760
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,840
see like if this is something. 
And I was just like, oh, do you 

761
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,760
know what? 
I'm going to just book a flight.

762
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Luckily I was quite freelance at
the time, so if I knew if I had 

763
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,360
a nine to five job, it wouldn't 
have worked. 

764
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880
No, I think it worked because I 
was working like 2-3 days a week

765
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
and I could tight that time off.
I think if you had a nine to 

766
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,360
five job you couldn't. 
No. 

767
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,880
So like the trick is quit your 
job. 

768
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Yeah, quit your job. 
Go freelance. 

769
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,200
That's only a way you can make 
it work. 

770
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,440
I flew out in the over 
Christmas. 

771
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,320
We met in the August and then I 
flew out in the Christmas. 

772
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480
And yeah, on the third day I was
like, well, I'm in trouble. 

773
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200
Yeah, that's what this is going 
to be. 

774
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,200
It's when you're out there, 
yeah, 'cause that will do it, 

775
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,040
'cause then you're in their 
space. 

776
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,440
Yeah, and it's like Suns out. 
Yeah. 

777
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Like, that's doing all these fun
things on the beach and like, 

778
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,520
hey, gay. 
Go hold hands and skip on the. 

779
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,400
Beat, yeah, yeah. 
And I was like, I'm in trouble 

780
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,640
there. 
And then he just carried on. 

781
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,120
But there was always an end 
game. 

782
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640
I think with long distance you 
have to have an end game. 100%, 

783
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,600
yeah. 
Because I think it was just 

784
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,800
like, oh, we're just going to do
long distance forever. 

785
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,880
I think I'd have been like, I 
can't do this. 

786
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,720
When did you decide like an end 
game though? 

787
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Because I feel like you can't 
set that straight away. 

788
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Before I, when she went back the
first time, like after I like 3 

789
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,320
week fling, yeah, she'd was 
like, I've always thought about 

790
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440
moving back to the UK. 
I'm just waiting to wait for my 

791
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800
passport because I've got, I can
get 2 passports because I've 

792
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,480
been there that long and then 
I'm going to come back. 

793
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200
So she like planted the seed. 
Wow, you're like I love you. 

794
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,320
How long did it take you until 
you said I love you? 

795
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,600
I said it when she came over 
this a second time, so like 6 

796
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040
months maybe technically, but 
technically this is only like 

797
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,800
the second date because we had 
like a three-week date, a 

798
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,640
three-week date and then do you 
know what I mean? 

799
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,800
No. 
But you find that I think long 

800
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,960
distance relationships as well, 
they can be more, I think 

801
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,120
they're more intense than we. 
Had a lot of phone talking. 

802
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Yeah, because you you are forced
to communicate a lot more. 

803
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,880
This is. 
Why? 

804
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,200
I think it's like because when 
you think you get into a 

805
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880
relationship and also like when 
it's the beginning and you just 

806
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,760
like get into it, you go out and
do fun things, you have loads of

807
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,800
sex and then all of a sudden 
you're like, I've been in this 

808
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,120
weeks and I know nothing about 
you, but I know what you look 

809
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,800
like naked. 
And that's all I need. 

810
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,480
It's great. 
But with this I, we just had so 

811
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600
much time where we're like, 
right, OK, we actually have to 

812
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600
like we were just having phone 
conversations. 

813
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,880
We knew so much about each 
other. 

814
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,360
So then when we do see each 
other, it's like we always worry

815
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,159
that he's going to tell he's 
like an old married couple 

816
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,400
because we just, we haven't got 
this like. 

817
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,960
Five. 
I don't know. 

818
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
I think, I think it's really 
fun. 

819
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,760
Like, I remember I was in my 
first ever lesbian relationship.

820
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,199
Was a long distance 1. 
Long distance. 

821
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,400
Yeah, it was Brazil. 
Oh wow. 

822
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,760
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, oh wow, 
Sydney, wow, I. 

823
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,960
Mean it was 11 hour flight so 
like it was still pretty long. 

824
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,840
Half the time. 
Half the time still, yeah, I 

825
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,080
know. 
And I was like 19. 

826
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480
I was in that relationship for a
few years and. 

827
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,880
Was there an end game? 
No, yeah. 

828
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,640
And I was just so young too. 
Like, I wasn't really thinking, 

829
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,520
would you ever move? 
Would you? 

830
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,040
Did you contemplate moving to? 
Brazil. 

831
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,720
I did, yeah. 
I actually, it was so weird. 

832
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,720
I was working for Joe Malone at 
the time and I was like, they've

833
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,720
got an office that they're 
opening up over in Sao Paulo, 

834
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:12,640
blah, blah. 
And I was like, I actually went 

835
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,640
and spoke to one of them. 
And then I think they realized 

836
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,440
pretty quickly I couldn't speak 
any fucking Portuguese but 

837
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,840
English, but English, yeah. 
And I really, I, I thought for a

838
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,760
second I wouldn't. 
And I would have genuinely have 

839
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,960
loved to have lived there. 
To be fair. 

840
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,400
I loved it there. 
But there's just so many things 

841
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,640
at play. 
And it's very scary, especially 

842
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,080
when you're that young. 
Like, I just didn't. 

843
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:34,400
And I also just didn't know 
myself. 

844
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960
Like, I wasn't out either. 
Like, there was just loads of 

845
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,760
different things that that came 
to it. 

846
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920
And my girlfriend now, she lives
in Barcelona. 

847
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,600
So that's a very quick long 
distance. 

848
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,360
Yeah. 
Which is like not too bad. 

849
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,280
That you could have done that. 
Barcelona. 

850
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,680
Yeah. 
Well, no, he doesn't. 

851
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,360
Now. 
Yeah, now. 

852
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Yeah. 
Oh, so you're in long? 

853
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Distance, yes, yeah, but not 
nowhere near as long as yours. 

854
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120
But then I feel like hearing my 
story might make you be like, 

855
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,400
it's not that far two hours. 
I would like I. 

856
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Really don't think it's far, I'm
genuinely like no two hours is 

857
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,160
nothing and also she comes over 
like pretty much every week for 

858
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
work anyway so I'm like oh but 
it doesn't really feel like. 

859
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,800
And also, if you think about it,
if A2 hour flight you, if 

860
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,400
someone lived in Scotland, it 
would be the same amount of 

861
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,480
yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, it's just because it's 

862
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,440
like a different country. 
They're like that. 

863
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,040
I I do think that that is nicer 
to kind of have that connection 

864
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,520
a little bit more like over 
communication. 

865
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560
And it is really fun, like when 
you see each other again and 

866
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,360
have that. 
Oh yeah. 

867
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,320
I also think it stops that like 
crazy. 

868
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,720
U-Haul, like the next level 
U-Haul that like a lot of 

869
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,440
lesbians do get into really. 
Really easily. 

870
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,000
She's not that sort of person 
anyway. 

871
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Yeah. 
She's like, this is the this is 

872
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
this is the biggest thing she's 
been in since junior, I think. 

873
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,880
Yeah, but she's and it's weird 
to me because she talks about 

874
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,320
herself. 
She's like like this is unheard 

875
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,800
of for me because I'm just like,
no, I'm not your commitment foe.

876
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,320
But I just don't see that side 
of it because I think sometimes 

877
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,720
if you meet someone that you 
just get on with. 

878
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Yeah, yeah, You're like, I can't
imagine you being any other way.

879
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Being like avoidant. 
Yeah. 

880
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000
And I was like, I bet you were. 
You know, I don't. 

881
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,560
I can't imagine that side of 
someone, but like, it's just 

882
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,240
like anything. 
I can always, I would say like 

883
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,920
you, you can be someone 
completely different in the 

884
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,320
relationship before 100. 
Someone's like, Oh my God, that 

885
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160
person's like really avoided. 
I'm like, no, they were just, 

886
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,600
they can be just avoided with 
some person or they can be like 

887
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520
really clingy or whatever. 
Yeah, and also different, like 

888
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,320
attachment styles can like, 
trigger other ones. 

889
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,680
So if someone's like, really 
anxious, then it's gonna trigger

890
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,760
an avoidant, you know? 
Yeah, massively. 

891
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,280
So, yeah, it depends on who 
you're with, like what the 

892
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,240
situation is. 
It can always just like vary. 

893
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,640
And I think that's what works 
best if you're doing on this 

894
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,760
distance because you have to 
have that bit of secure stuff 

895
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,320
because you don't want people to
do it. 

896
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,000
I'm like, oh, like I'll bring 
in. 

897
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,840
She's like, oh, I'm out with 
these people, like people and 

898
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640
I'm like kill. 
And she's really like, I 

899
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
couldn't deal with because I've 
had it before in the past where 

900
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,600
like who, who you out with? 
I'm like, do you want me to name

901
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,680
everyone on the table? 
They're all boring. 

902
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,240
Take a photo, send it to 
there's. 

903
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:56,720
Like 17 people from work that I 
don't know know this guy. 

904
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
She's new. 
I can't handle my friends. 

905
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,240
I cannot handle jealous or 
controlling. 

906
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,360
Like those are the two things 
that I'm like, this is just too 

907
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,520
much of me. 
Like there is obviously like a 

908
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,960
natural bit of jealousy that I 
do think that just happens in 

909
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,680
like relationships when you love
someone. 

910
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,800
There is that, but like real 
jealousy and like controlling. 

911
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,000
I'm like, oh this is rough but 
that's why I don't want to be 

912
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,600
like. 
You know, but you get, I feel 

913
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,480
like when you get into those 
relationships, you don't realise

914
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,400
it's happening until you're like
so far. 

915
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400
And because I've been in like 
relationships like that when I'm

916
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,480
like, Oh my God. 
And you don't like I, I was in 

917
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,000
something that was like I had, I
had, I had rules, but they were 

918
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,880
rules, rules that were like 
overshadowed. 

919
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,400
These are my boundaries. 
And I'm like, I look back now. 

920
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,800
I'm like, no, no, they were, 
they were rules. 

921
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Yeah. 
Because like, you can't, you you

922
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,840
can't deripies. 
Yeah, yeah. 

923
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Like these are boundaries. 
I'm like, I look back, I'm like,

924
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,040
they were rules. 
Like you can't do this or 

925
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,120
something. 
But I was like, oh, OK. 

926
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,200
It's not. 
OK, To ever control somebody 

927
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400
like that, Like, why do people 
feel like once they're in a 

928
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840
relationship with somebody that 
they genuinely own them? 

929
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,200
They're like, no, this is my dog
now, and I'm you. 

930
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,760
You must obey everything that I 
have to say. 

931
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,240
But it happens all the time. 
And I'm thinking, where is this 

932
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,040
coming from? 
No, I was. 

933
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,160
I was actually talking to 
someone like a girl that I'd met

934
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,240
really recently and I don't know
much about her drinks Friday 

935
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,120
night and she was there and she 
was having difficulty with her 

936
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,720
boyfriend. 
And I was a level of drunk where

937
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:19,760
I just went in. 
I was like, I don't know you and

938
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,760
I don't know him, but I'm going 
to tell you now. 

939
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,560
You need to get out. 
I. 

940
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,440
Was like get out. 
Get out now. 

941
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,800
I was like, he's never going to 
change. 

942
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,280
She's like, well, he does this, 
he does this. 

943
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,920
He won't let me see my he has 
to. 

944
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,760
I was like, you have to give a 
list of every single friend 

945
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,320
you're with. 
She had to give her every single

946
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,800
friend she was with. 
Acting, kissing, screen kisses. 

947
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680
They're both actors. 
I was like, but you have to 

948
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,880
kiss. 
Because you're an actor not 

949
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,240
allowed to kiss on screen. 
No, but he's also an actor. 

950
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,640
What the fuck? 
I was like, but that's you're an

951
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,480
actor. 
And also if you can't deal with 

952
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,560
that, don't date an actor. 
But you're also one, so you have

953
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,360
to kiss people anyway. 
And like, yeah, it's not nice. 

954
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,280
But as a partner, you just say 
don't watch it. 

955
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,480
No, my partner, I've had to snog
boys on Corrie and she's just 

956
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,320
like is OK, I just don't wanna 
watch that episode. 

957
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,840
Fine, babe. 
Yeah, I get that. 

958
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,160
You don't wanna see me snogging 
a man. 

959
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,880
Fine, absolutely. 
Fine, I don't want to see that. 

960
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000
Yeah, I'm like, I did that. 
Yeah. 

961
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,880
But like, absolutely fine. 
But like you can't come for me 

962
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,880
because it's like your job. 
I'm not going to turn up to set,

963
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,720
but like Page 3 of the script. 
No, that's right. 

964
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,960
Vital to the story. 
I don't want to do it. 

965
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
I'm like. 
Get a double in. 

966
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Get a double in. 
It ain't me, not my lips. 

967
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Like what you gonna do when I'm 
on sex education? 

968
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,240
I've got her like, get the baps 
out and have a rhyme. 

969
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,880
Do you know what I mean? 
She can't do this thing. 

970
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,280
Am I? 
You can't. 

971
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,480
So anyway, I I went in, I'd had 
a drink. 

972
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,400
I was like, listen, I don't owe 
him anything. 

973
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,920
Yeah, dump the chump. 
Yeah, as you should. 

974
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,760
I think more people people 
should do that in all honesty 

975
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,960
because I think sometimes it 
takes being told by someone, 

976
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,680
even a total stranger that's 
like objectively this is fuck to

977
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,840
what's going. 
On here also friends don't do 

978
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,400
that because when I was in 
something not it was it was 

979
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,160
toxic. 
My friends, like they're just, 

980
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,920
they're just quiet. 
A little things like, I mean, 

981
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200
this doesn't sound great. 
Like are you OK? 

982
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000
And just little things like that
because you can't go in. 

983
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Because they know that it will 
just usually push the person 

984
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,480
further. 
Toxic partner. 

985
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
And then they're like, yeah, and
then you have no one. 

986
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,760
Yeah, yeah. 
So that's almost what they want 

987
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,080
as well. 
And I'd started to like, I 

988
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,320
didn't mean to at the time, but 
I'd started to like, choose that

989
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,240
person over friends just because
I was told that that's what I 

990
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,680
should be doing because you're 
not putting me first. 

991
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,760
And for you it was just easier 
than kind of always getting in 

992
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,240
trouble. 
Yeah, well, I just. 

993
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,200
Can't be asked to the argument. 
I was always in trouble. 

994
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Yeah. 
So I was in trouble so. 

995
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,040
And then then it's my friends 
were like, well, you've just 

996
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,560
you've blown us off and I'm 
like, I can't make 2 sets of 

997
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,000
people happy and all like this 
is so and it shouldn't be like 

998
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,680
that it. 
Should be like like that. 

999
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,960
If you're listening to this and 
this is your relationship, get 

1000
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,680
get. 
Out. 

1001
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,880
Get out. 
Get out. 

1002
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,160
Joe Yeah, leave right now. 
It's like what I said to this 

1003
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,920
girl the other day. 
I was like, it won't get better 

1004
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,520
because you're already in it and
you've already set the rules of 

1005
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,760
what your relationship is. 
And I went, what I bet you're 

1006
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,120
doing is this. 
I was like, now you've started 

1007
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,600
to slightly lie to him because 
you are at the pub. 

1008
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200
We've seen people that he knows.
You're I was like, you're going 

1009
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,040
to get more shit. 
And then you're saying, oh, 

1010
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,280
you're not at the pub even 
though you are because. 

1011
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,760
And then he's like, you've lied 
to me. 

1012
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,560
So then you look bad because 
you're the lighter, but you've 

1013
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120
only lied to them because you 
know that being at the pub is 

1014
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
not acceptable. 
Which is bullshit because you're

1015
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,880
allowed to go to the fucking 
pub. 

1016
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,800
You're mates. 
Oh my God, you're allowed to be 

1017
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680
anywhere. 
Honestly, it feels it's that's 

1018
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,560
hell, that is hell that if I if 
there is a hell. 

1019
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
That's and I know my partner 
should be like hey babe where 

1020
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,880
are you? 
I'm like the pub of some mates. 

1021
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Oh cool, hell have time. 
Bye. 

1022
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,800
See you tomorrow. 
Yeah, literally. 

1023
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,520
That's, that's how it should be 
like. 

1024
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,160
It's insane. 
And it's like the easy thing I 

1025
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,560
mean. 
Well, I'm glad that you found 

1026
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,960
someone now that she's like, 
respects you and yeah, she's. 

1027
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,200
A breeze in my life. 
And do you feel like there's any

1028
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,720
kind of like cons to long 
distance or do you feel like 

1029
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,800
they're kind of battled? 
I mean, just not being with our 

1030
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200
first dance might. 
Be yeah, it's Oh my God, I have 

1031
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,760
bad days where I'm just like, 
why are you here? 

1032
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,440
It's normally like the lead up 
to my period, which that's never

1033
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,560
unheard of. 
Luteal has been fucking. 

1034
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Dead. 
Yeah. 

1035
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Yeah. 
Before your period, that moment,

1036
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880
right? 
Like a week or two weeks before,

1037
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,600
but it manages to get me every 
single month without me 

1038
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,760
realising that that's what it 
is. 

1039
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,080
What is that about? 
I'm like why am? 

1040
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,400
It's like I'm here again. 
I'll convince myself that it's 

1041
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,360
not that. 
Yeah. 

1042
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,200
Oh, well, I've just gone fully 
suicidal, actually. 

1043
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,520
That's what I get. 
Like, I get like, life is not 

1044
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,480
worth living anymore. 
This is awful. 

1045
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680
Everything's shit. 
The sky is great. 

1046
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,240
Like it's like, it's great. 
I get to the point where I don't

1047
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,640
know what my girlfriend's like. 
Are you? 

1048
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Are you? 
Do 1 babe, I'm like, no, it's 

1049
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,760
not about that. 
She's like you do you want. 

1050
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,440
I'm like yes, I am, but it's 
nothing to do with these are my 

1051
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,520
real feeling. 
I am valid. 

1052
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,040
She's like, OK. 
See, it's managed to help me 

1053
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,200
now, like sussing out whether 
it's because I'm doing my 

1054
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,720
period, I'll go. 
No, I was like, I know because 

1055
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,520
I'm like due on because I think 
before I was really spiralling 

1056
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,200
thinking, oh, now I'm getting to
the dark space again, you know? 

1057
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,320
And like if you've ever suffered
with any like mental health 

1058
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,240
problems, like having a moment 
like that can sometimes be a 

1059
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,440
little bit triggering because 
you're like, am I going back 

1060
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,280
into that depressive spiral? 
I can't be arsed. 

1061
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,880
Don't have the time for it, you 
know. 

1062
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,040
Things have got. 
Shit to do. 

1063
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,080
I literally got upset the other 
day for like, for like an hour 

1064
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,800
and I cried and I was like 
wasting my morning. 

1065
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,720
Now it's more like, this is my 
day to be productive. 

1066
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:25,520
I've taken an hour of every time
because I've had a SOB. 

1067
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,920
Yeah, but I was like, you know, 
I love doing that to do the 

1068
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,960
thing you have the SOB. 
Let's have the SOB. 

1069
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,200
And especially when you clearly 
have like a very busy brain, I 

1070
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,840
feel like it's probably a lot 
like mine. 

1071
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,080
And I think it's great though, 
that you have that creative 

1072
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,200
outlet too. 
I mean, what made you go from 

1073
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
the acting into content 
creation? 

1074
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,280
Was it just kind of using the 2?
I'd literally just. 

1075
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,400
It was completely random. 
I didn't set out to be like a 

1076
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,120
content creator or like that's 
the influence then. 

1077
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,960
I hate that word. 
Oh, do you know what's? 

1078
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Horrible I'm an influencer. 
Might sound like a knob mate. 

1079
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Like sorry, he influenced it. 
What could we call it instead? 

1080
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,800
I don't know, I'm like I do 
videos I. 

1081
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,760
Like I'm a TikTok actress. 
Oh no, like even Tik Toker I'm 

1082
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,360
like oh like it makes me sound 
like I'm like trying to be 23. 

1083
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Yeah, but. 
It is due to tick tock. 

1084
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:17,600
It's. 
Hard though, because it's. 

1085
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,280
I mean, content create is fine. 
I think that's. 

1086
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,680
Yeah, I go with content create. 
Yeah, yeah, it makes me doesn't 

1087
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:28,240
make my like stomach fart now. 
Yeah, I like just made real. 

1088
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,320
I I don't know why I even did 
it. 

1089
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,000
I just was like, oh, this would 
be quite funny. 

1090
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,760
And then I was going to put it 
on Instagram and I was like, I 

1091
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,600
can't put it on Instagram 
because people will laugh at me 

1092
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,720
because it's like my peers were 
on Instagram. 

1093
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,720
So I made a TikTok page that I 
didn't know. 

1094
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,080
I didn't know anyone on TikTok. 
So I was just like, I just make 

1095
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,400
a TikTok page. 
Save space. 

1096
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
And yeah, I don't know anyone. 
I don't need to impress anyone 

1097
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,320
here. 
And yeah, it did really well. 

1098
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,040
You'll usually find that you do 
the best when you don't give a 

1099
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,600
fuck. 
I did not give a fuck. 

1100
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:02,000
And now, yeah, the best advice I
got once was like, no one, no 

1101
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,360
one gives a bigger fuck than 
you. 

1102
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,320
So I was like, well, I'm nervous
about this, nervous about that. 

1103
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,800
Most he's like, I was talking to
this guy. 

1104
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,640
He's like, most people do this. 
Yeah. 

1105
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120
And so you've put so much time 
and effort inside. 

1106
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,360
Oh, what about this? 
Is this good enough? 

1107
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Is that funny enough to do it? 
Most people don't give a fuck. 

1108
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Like no one does feel like that 
was really funny or like, oh, I 

1109
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,840
hadn't seen that 10. 
Nice. 

1110
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,080
What? 
Like they literally. 

1111
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680
So they would. 
He'd just like just keep 

1112
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,600
posting. 
Just keep going. 

1113
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,320
Just keep going. 
If you think it's a bit shit, 

1114
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,840
post it anyway. 
Then the next one might be 

1115
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,400
better. 
Just keep going. 

1116
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,400
And it's so true. 
Because the ones that I think 

1117
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
I've taken a time that I'm 
really proud of might be like. 

1118
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,600
And then the ones that I'm like,
oh, is that all right? 

1119
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Yeah. 
Sometimes can do well so. 

1120
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,200
I'm like, you never know what's 
going to work. 

1121
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,240
Sometimes it just happens. 
And it could be timing. 

1122
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,880
It could just be the, it could 
be anything. 

1123
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,360
But I think I remember once 
somebody said as well, they were

1124
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,200
like, if it flopped and nobody 
saw it. 

1125
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Good. 
No one's all right. 

1126
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,880
Yeah. 
That's. 

1127
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,080
True. 
Like, OK, cool. 

1128
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,360
No one, no one cares. 
It just. 

1129
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Doesn't matter. 
There's so many fucking people 

1130
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,600
on the earth and like TikTok is 
just like a, it's just like 

1131
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
constant like this. 
I mean, and if you can have 

1132
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,960
something that you can use your 
creativity, your skills for, why

1133
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,200
wouldn't you do it? 
Like the way in which you create

1134
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,040
it is just great and it's so. 
I think as well, especially at 

1135
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,040
the minute social media and just
life is so dark. 

1136
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,240
Yeah. 
Like you go online, I wake up 

1137
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,280
this morning, I was like, oh, 
Trump's done this. 

1138
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Now I'm like, the world's on 
fire. 

1139
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,360
I'm like, and it's going to be 
so consuming and there's so many

1140
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,160
people who are like, it's it's 
over. 

1141
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
It's so overwhelming that I 
think if you can just go on and 

1142
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,800
just do a bit of just like, that
was a funny thing about an air 

1143
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,640
freshener turning you gay. 
Like it's so stupid and like. 

1144
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
We need stupid right now. 
Funny, only stupid. 

1145
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,320
And there's people being like, 
when I follow people who just do

1146
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,200
out on stupid dancers, I'm like,
yeah, just do a dance in your 

1147
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,040
kitchen. 
Sit. 

1148
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,520
The world's about to end in a 
fucking minute. 

1149
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,680
I don't give a shit anymore. 
I'm I'm done. 

1150
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,560
This is what my friend says and 
she she invites me to the pub 

1151
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,240
midweek. 
I'm like, oh, it's Tuesday. 

1152
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,720
She's like, babe, the world's on
fire, come for a pint. 

1153
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,880
I'm like you are. 
Right, I just go Bubble 3 come 

1154
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,880
from Yeah, yeah, we love, we 
love a wee day pint. 

1155
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,480
Yeah, to be fair, this was a 
Monday. 

1156
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,560
I was like, it's Monday. 
Oh, we went for a pint 

1157
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,840
yesterday. 
I mean, I'll have 1 today. 

1158
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,880
And he said no. 
I said no at lunch because my 

1159
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,120
friend was. 
I was like, we're having a 

1160
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,400
drink. 
She was like, no, I was like, of

1161
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,960
course not. 
I was like, oh God, I. 

1162
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Was only asking I don't know why
if you were OK. 

1163
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Yeah, I would never drink on a 
Tuesday lunchtime. 

1164
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,960
That'd be ridiculous. 
But yeah, I'll just find it. 

1165
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,200
So I just think there's so much 
shit going on right now. 

1166
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,120
And it's nice to have joy. 
It's nice to have joy. 

1167
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,760
It's nice to like scroll and 
like see, like doesn't my stuff.

1168
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,240
But like other people just put 
in out like just this is a 

1169
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,880
stupid thing. 
I did today a funny thing 

1170
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,400
because I think if you there was
a RuPaul thing recently, he was 

1171
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,040
on podcast or something and he 
said you can, he said you can 

1172
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,320
look at you can look at the 
darkness, but don't stare. 

1173
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,720
I love that. 
And he's like, you cut. 

1174
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,800
He was like, because if you 
stare too long, you'll go crazy.

1175
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,080
He was like, you need to create 
music and fun things and dancing

1176
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,320
and comedy. 
And he was like, you need to do 

1177
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,720
all the fun things because 
otherwise it'll just consume you

1178
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,880
have to. 
I was like, oh, I'm gonna get on

1179
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,080
a T-shirt, Rupert. 
The whole thing. 

1180
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,320
But that's the thing. 
It's like you can be aware 

1181
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,160
because I'm aware. 
I'm so tuned into it all. 

1182
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,600
I know everything that's going 
on, but yeah, in an instance 

1183
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,520
where there's fuck all you can 
do and you've done everything 

1184
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,280
that you can, you have to enjoy 
life to its fullest. 

1185
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Yeah. 
And bring that joy on to other 

1186
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,160
people because that kind of 
energy is so contagious as well.

1187
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,160
And you never know who say that 
you're going to make better just

1188
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,840
by doing that one thing, you 
know? 

1189
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,240
And like using humour, I mean, 
I've always used humour to get 

1190
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,400
through pretty much fucking 
everything in my life, you know?

1191
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,280
And I always think that's a 
skill. 

1192
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,920
I love it when other people do 
it as well. 

1193
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,240
And yeah, I think if we're going
to have something literally 

1194
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,440
called TikTok, let's take the 
fucking piss and just do a video

1195
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,480
come. 
Up with that name. 

1196
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Yeah, someone who's very, very 
rich right now. 

1197
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,320
And I wish. 
Oh, yeah. 

1198
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,560
I mean, well, one of your reels 
I did love. 

1199
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,440
And it was the one of your dad 
making a dad joke, which I know 

1200
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,760
did very well on on your reels. 
Oh, yeah. 

1201
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,280
And so I know that I have asked 
you to prepare some dad jokes. 

1202
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,000
I have some of my. 
Oh my God. 

1203
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,560
The thing is though, you can't 
laugh. 

1204
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,240
I'm going to try and not laugh 
at yours. 

1205
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,480
I don't think you're going to 
naturally laugh at mine anyway. 

1206
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,840
I sometimes laugh out of like 
awkwardness, pity with dad 

1207
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,320
jokes. 
Yeah, if it's that bad, then it 

1208
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,920
makes that. 
Jokes aren't meant to be bad 

1209
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,720
though. 
Yeah, that's the. 

1210
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,840
Same thing. 
They're meant to be awful, I. 

1211
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,440
Think I quite like a long winded
one as well, like. 

1212
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Oh my God, my dad will literally
start sentences and The thing is

1213
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,880
with my dad, when he's tell the 
judge he can't get to the 

1214
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,560
punchline without laughing, it 
was like right man walks into a 

1215
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,760
bar and his face will go red 
like his eyes closed like his 

1216
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,560
teeth, like he's got false teeth
as well so. 

1217
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Something they're half coming 
out. 

1218
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,400
Yeah, his teeth's actually 
amazing out. 

1219
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,920
And then we're sat there waiting
for his. 

1220
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,600
His eyes will roll. 
I'm like, Dad, I'm gonna you 

1221
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,120
need to get there. 
And like it wasn't. 

1222
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,600
That's funnier than the punch 
line. 

1223
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,360
Yeah, no, but I love that. 
I love that I'm gonna get him on

1224
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,600
and I want him to just do a 
whole. 

1225
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,360
Sent me some. 
He sent you some. 

1226
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,600
OK, so so you're gonna. 
I will do a, I'll do 1, you do 

1227
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160
1, I do 1. 
OK, OK, so don't give me 

1228
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,560
offended if I don't. 
Some of his though were like, oh

1229
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:07,960
dad May. 
Thank you very much, Dad. 

1230
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,760
Go on. 
Start dark on mine. 

1231
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,880
Oh. 
You've already have heard this 

1232
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,320
one. 
What's the worst part about 

1233
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,280
having sex in a cemetery? 
I don't know you're. 

1234
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Not allowed to laugh, Farrell? 
Close your mouth. 

1235
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,760
What is the worst thing about 
having sex in it? 

1236
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,720
It's the worst part about having
sex in a cemetery. 

1237
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,320
Which made me laugh. 
Now I don't know why. 

1238
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Because I feel it back to you. 
I heard my own joke and I was 

1239
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,960
like, that's funny shit. 
That's some funny shit. 

1240
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:44,080
All the fucking digging. 
If you ever if I was on last one

1241
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,920
laughing I would be out. 
OK, let's do it. 

1242
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Let's do a role play. 
We are on last one, Laughing. 

1243
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,760
You are not allowed to laugh. 
You have to give me these bad 

1244
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,960
jokes straight. 
You'll be fucked. 

1245
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Mind OK, it's my dad actually 
did this and we were in a 

1246
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:03,880
restaurant once and the waiter 
came over and said so today's 

1247
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,600
specials we have the cured 
salmon and he said cured was it 

1248
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:19,650
was it I'll that is like the 
face classic dad. 

1249
00:52:19,850 --> 00:52:23,250
That is. 
I was like, but also I was like,

1250
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:24,210
funny look. 
At that. 

1251
00:52:24,210 --> 00:52:25,170
No, that is funny. 
OK. 

1252
00:52:25,210 --> 00:52:27,490
Classic Dad. 
That's classic Dad, have you? 

1253
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,200
We're going on then. 
All right. 

1254
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,600
I forget about the no laughing 
part. 

1255
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,120
It's really, it's actually quite
difficult. 

1256
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:42,200
It's really difficult. 
OK, I'm I'm choosing the one 

1257
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,680
that I want to say. 
What do you call a man with 

1258
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,520
nobody and no nose? 
I don't know. 

1259
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,360
Nobody knows. 
Oh, it's rough. 

1260
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,560
I'm doing, it's rough. 
I'm doing that thing that they 

1261
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,600
do when they just pull the face.
I'm lost on laughing. 

1262
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,480
I'll get my Mike Hegarty's list 
out. 

1263
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,880
Why is everything way funny when
you can't laugh? 

1264
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:11,600
This is hell. 
I'm sweating. 

1265
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Some of these are bleak. 2 Lions
walk through a shopping centre. 

1266
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,240
1 says server It's quiet today, 
every Saturday afternoon. 

1267
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,800
Was that like a delayed 
response? 

1268
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,240
No, I just. 
It was just so bad. 

1269
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,600
It's so bad. 
That's why I laughed. 

1270
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,720
It's so bad. 
Anita. 

1271
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,600
I'm trying to rein this in. 
I'll be off this show. 

1272
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Yeah, right. 
OK. 

1273
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,840
It's hard, isn't it? 
Last one laughing when Ramesh. 

1274
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,640
Ramesh it is. 
Oh my God. 

1275
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,120
But also he needs like the thing
of like the things of like you 

1276
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,120
can't laugh at it. 
So it made it funnier and then 

1277
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,720
that the Gordon Brown joke. 
Amazing, amazing and. 

1278
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,400
Just reading out things that 
he'd been called that was just 

1279
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,560
like that was a genius. 
And his face was Oh my God, 

1280
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,160
he's. 
Hilarious how he just says them 

1281
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,000
all out. 
Amazing. 

1282
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360
He's like, he's like, I'd like 
you now to read them, say them 

1283
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,920
to my face. 
Incredible. 

1284
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,760
Oh my God, he's like, his eye 
looks like it's been in a 

1285
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,560
dishwasher. 
I was like. 

1286
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:19,960
I loved. 
It I could not. 

1287
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,840
That is such a good tactic. 
So good, right? 

1288
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:29,280
I think I got one more. 
This is what we say in the house

1289
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,800
and you go when you stand up to 
leave, you go, Right, I'm off. 

1290
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,880
I thought I could smell 
something. 

1291
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,600
So. 
Fucking liver. 

1292
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,480
That bad you've got to be. 
That's bad, but I want to use 

1293
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,600
it. 
The first thing that came into 

1294
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,920
my head was, yeah, that's really
good. 

1295
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,880
You can't get away with anything
in my house about. 

1296
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,560
No, without a pun or like a joke
coming. 

1297
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,680
Yeah, I like that. 
No, that is good. 

1298
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,280
Yeah, I'm going to use that. 
I like learning things like and 

1299
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,840
I clogged my head today. 
I've learned something today. 

1300
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,680
What what's the one thing you're
going to take away from today? 

1301
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,160
Do your your I'm just reading 
the ones you sent me the. 

1302
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,520
The lesbian mom he's a. 
Lesbian mom. 

1303
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,840
Yeah, this is this is very. 
Oh my God, my. 

1304
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,320
I thought of someone I think. 
OK. 

1305
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,080
All right, I'll give it to you. 
Go on all. 

1306
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:25,560
Right. 
What's worse than two lesbians 

1307
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,160
running with scissors? 
I don't know. 

1308
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:36,320
Scissoring with the runs. 
That's not fair. 

1309
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,400
It's also just facts to live by,
isn't it? 

1310
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,560
My. 
If you've ever had to worry 

1311
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,200
about what you should do when 
you have the runs, probably just

1312
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,840
don't scissor. 
Don't do that. 

1313
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,680
Don't do that, no. 
Oh, Can you imagine? 

1314
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,600
What a mess. 
Oh, it's the only thing that 

1315
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,080
comes into my. 
Head Oh, he's got to clean up 

1316
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,000
that my brother, right? 
Really, really. 

1317
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,720
Recently we sat around the 
dinner table and bearing in mind

1318
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:02,600
my grandma's there and my 
grandma, I think my grandma, my 

1319
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,960
grandma and grandda was there, 
My mum and dad were there and he

1320
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,160
literally just sat on the table 
and he said in front of 

1321
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,680
everyone. 
It was like, what do you call a 

1322
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,760
lesbian dinosaur? 
Oh. 

1323
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,120
I know this one. 
Lick a lot of puss. 

1324
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,080
How did that go? 
Imagine that round the table. 

1325
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:24,160
I was like, you fucking bastard.
I was like, and we all just 

1326
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
looked at each other and he 
looked at me and was like, and 

1327
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,760
he's just this reminder of like,
do you know what I mean? 

1328
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,800
I'm just like, oh, there's 
nothing better than a like 

1329
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,800
you're thinking about. 
You're thinking about licking 

1330
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,400
me. 
I was like, are you? 

1331
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
We're all, I'm like, oh, this is
horrible. 

1332
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,680
And we all just sat there and my
dad would like, I could see my 

1333
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,280
daughter go and then like trying
not to laugh. 

1334
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,520
My mum was that I remember was 
like cutting carrots or 

1335
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,040
something. 
She was like you could see a 

1336
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,840
shaking front behind and I think
I don't think my grandma got it.

1337
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,960
I was like, never mind my 
grandma moving on. 

1338
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Oh my God, save me, swallow me 
whole. 

1339
00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:59,760
This is horrendous. 
Why is? 

1340
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,680
It it's always at the dinner 
table. 

1341
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Always at the dinner table. 
Yeah, hate crime central dinner 

1342
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200
table. 
That was a hate crime and he 

1343
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,640
knew what he was doing his well,
he was like. 

1344
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,760
Well, I used. 
To make that a joke with. 

1345
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,520
My sister. 
Then I came out as gay. 

1346
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,120
That was the bit. 
And then I became the joke of 

1347
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,440
the family. 
Because your sister's gay as 

1348
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,200
well. 
Yeah. 

1349
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:25,400
So she came up first. 
Oh yeah, I am. 

1350
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,720
I'm really, really mad for that.
Oh God, yeah, she's going to be 

1351
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,320
a dyke for AIM Doc Martins. 
I was like, what do you mean? 

1352
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Yeah, again. 
And. 

1353
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Like read the room, it is true. 
I'm like, yeah, I am, but also 

1354
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,320
why? 
Why are you slurring at me? 

1355
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Yeah, when you're a lesbian. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1356
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,840
It was actually quite funny, to 
be fair. 

1357
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,920
I'll give her. 
That well, you can she actually.

1358
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,640
Was two of you? 
No, there's three of us, so 

1359
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,120
there's the straight one in the 
middle. 

1360
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,480
A sister. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1361
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,840
So 3 girls, 1 straight. 
Debatable though. 

1362
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Never know. 
There's always time. 

1363
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,360
How old is she? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1364
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,240
How old? 
2 old. 

1365
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,120
Them Oh, it's too old to become.
She's 30, 737. 

1366
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Oh well, now there is still 
time. 

1367
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,920
There is. 
I reckon she's about to pop out 

1368
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,720
her third so probably after 
that. 

1369
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,760
After that, get the get the kids
out. 

1370
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Yeah, get all the kids out and 
then just move. 

1371
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,320
On see the light. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1372
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,520
I don't think it will take her a
lot. 

1373
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,720
See the light. 
Yeah. 

1374
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Come on, Lauren. 
Just carry on dating men, you'll

1375
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,560
figure out. 
Yeah, I think she's close, to be

1376
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,840
honest. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1377
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,080
But I always think whenever you 
hear talk about like dinner 

1378
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,680
table conversations as well 
though, like having a straight 

1379
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,920
sister, used to having a lesbian
sister, but when the straight 

1380
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,720
sister sits down with like the 
husband and they're like, we're 

1381
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,840
trying for a baby, I'm like, so 
you're having sex. 

1382
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,240
Is that what you're trying to? 
Is that what you're trying to 

1383
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,160
announce to the table? 
It's always funny, isn't it, 

1384
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,760
when people are like, I would 
like to announce that we're 

1385
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,560
trying for a baby. 
So you just announced at dinner 

1386
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,160
table that you're raw dogging. 
Yeah, that's what's happening. 

1387
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,400
You're announcing in front of 
grandma. 

1388
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,560
We've all thought about. 
There's no protection. 

1389
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:57,960
Yeah, You're just raw dogging 
everything. 

1390
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,440
And thank you for sharing that. 
Yeah, I eat my potatoes. 

1391
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,840
Before, I mean, Farrell, it's 
been so nice to get to know you 

1392
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,760
and and just understand a little
bit more about like where you've

1393
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,960
come from as well. 
Like, it's so nice to see this 

1394
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,440
after I've seen all the 
different content of yours and, 

1395
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,320
and you're acting and just 
knowing kind of the person 

1396
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,000
behind all of that. 
It's always so nice to see. 

1397
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,080
And you are an absolute babe as 
well. 

1398
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,640
You're so lovely. 
And you never know how someone's

1399
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,960
gonna be. 
You never. 

1400
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,400
Know yeah, yeah. 
And you're like people, and 

1401
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,360
you're like. 
You're one of the first people 

1402
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,400
I've actually had on that I've 
never had like an actual 

1403
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,520
conversation. 
Oh, really? 

1404
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Yeah. 
Oh, yeah. 

1405
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
It's always a risk, isn't it? 
It was a risk. 

1406
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,200
It was a message, Yeah. 
No, I'm very pleasantly 

1407
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,600
surprised and I love hearing 
about your story as well. 

1408
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,960
I think in a way it's kind of 
nice because the other guests 

1409
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,720
that I have on, I'm like, okay, 
I kind of know. 

1410
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,200
Pretty much all of this. 
Already, So I'm like locked in 

1411
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,840
listening, but is there anything
else that you wanted to talk 

1412
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,320
about before you go? 
No, I don't think. 

1413
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Have you got anything coming up 
that? 

1414
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,760
You're what have I got coming 
up? 

1415
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,040
I'm just, I'm just fanning about
online. 

1416
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Yeah, funny what I'm doing some 
days. 

1417
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,480
I'm like, why is this my job? 
It's so wild. 

1418
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,080
Yeah. 
Just like, what is life? 

1419
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,240
Yeah. 
No, it's nice to come out and 

1420
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,560
stuff like this and like just 
share like because it's as I 

1421
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,960
said recently, like, oh, I'm 
going to try and like talk more 

1422
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,160
about. 
Myself, you know, makes me like 

1423
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,280
die inside, but I did, I talked 
about something really recently 

1424
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,560
and then I had someone reach out
to me and be like, oh, I 

1425
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,920
literally left my husband like, 
oh, I've just come out of a 

1426
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,680
straight relationship at like I 
think she's like 39 or 

1427
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,320
something. 
She was like, I love hearing 

1428
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,200
stories like this because it 
like, gives me, like, hope. 

1429
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,560
And I was just like, OK, maybe I
do need to like, talk about, 

1430
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,480
like, coming out and also being,
like, super like, happy. 

1431
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,600
Yeah. 
Like, I've never been as happy 

1432
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,720
as, like, I didn't know, like, 
you know, like the queer joy. 

1433
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,680
I'm like, you're so gay. 
And I'm like, I know it's been 

1434
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,080
great. 
I was like, I'm so happy because

1435
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,800
I never knew that this could be 
a feeling. 

1436
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,440
So like. 
Yeah. 

1437
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,000
That's amazing that I'm so. 
Glad you've been start finding 

1438
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,080
your wife. 
Exactly. 

1439
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,640
Amen to that. 
No, but that that is the thing. 

1440
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,040
And we've always said that like 
on this pod as well, like we 

1441
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,600
talk about a lot of experiences 
that we've already gone through 

1442
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,960
like maybe like years ago. 
So sometimes we can kind of 

1443
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,200
brush over a little bit because 
we're like, but for somebody 

1444
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,640
else listening that said right 
now, you know, so it doesn't 

1445
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,920
hurt to like go into that and 
there will be women listening to

1446
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,320
this now that are in that 
situation or have been or are 

1447
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,840
thinking about it, you know, 
that haven't even made that step

1448
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,280
yet. 
So. 

1449
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,480
Or if you're in the mix of it, 
it does get better. 

1450
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,720
Oh my God, it gets so much 
better. 

1451
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,360
Yeah, it always does. 
It always does. 

1452
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:36,560
It's going. 
To be great. 

1453
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,880
Better with a woman, I'm sorry. 
Yeah, you can have a great time.

1454
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,640
It's going to be. 
Fantastic and do the long 

1455
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,840
distance thing. 
Try it out, you know, or do 

1456
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,080
throw yourself into different 
cultures, different experiences.

1457
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,120
I think that that's always 
what's so nice about long 

1458
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,360
distance relationships to it 
really like broadens your 

1459
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,840
horizons on a different way of 
life. 

1460
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,880
And also I feel like when it 
feels, when you feel something 

1461
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,880
feels right, like, you know, 
like I also think for me when I,

1462
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:03,560
I was ignoring so many like gut 
feelings of like, I'm happy. 

1463
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,440
I promise I'm happy in both 
women and women. 

1464
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,320
Like you know that thing and 
like if it's not right, go. 

1465
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Don't waste your life. 
It's you don't have I mean Katty

1466
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,240
on the the episode just before 
this was just like normalize 

1467
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,360
breaking up. 
Yeah, like it's OK. 

1468
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,520
That is OK. 
Like this is really shit. 

1469
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,000
I'm not happy. 
Like you shouldn't be sad all 

1470
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,320
the time and you shouldn't be 
have that feeling in your 

1471
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,440
stomach where you're like 
worried about stuff. 

1472
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,440
It should just be like. 
Was on edge, walking on egg 

1473
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,240
shells, whatever. 
That is the worst. 

1474
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,880
But I'm so glad that you finally
found your way out of that. 

1475
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,800
And it really also doesn't 
matter like what age you were or

1476
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,560
don't listen to anyone who has 
to say that. 

1477
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,640
Sorry, I had that song. 
I had that then when I've been 

1478
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,280
lurking, but that's where my 
brain went. 

1479
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,800
I started clicking and then just
didn't do. 

1480
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,400
Anything. 
I already tried to diagnose you 

1481
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,560
earlier. 
Oh, I'm done diagnosed. 

1482
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,920
Oh. 
I my DMS are literally, I get a 

1483
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,520
message at least twice a week. 
We're like, have you got any HD?

1484
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,560
I'm like, I'm like, I'm 
undiagnosed. 

1485
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,400
I didn't fill out the form. 
It's too complicated. 

1486
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,200
It's 11 pages. 
What do you want? 

1487
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,600
Me to do. 
I swear that's the test if you 

1488
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
don't send the form back and 
they just send you a 

1489
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,280
certificate. 
So you guys? 

1490
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Are you still waiting for it? 
I just get a messages being like

1491
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,040
you never filled out the form 
far and I'm like I know. 

1492
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Do you know what my, my private 
assessment that I went through? 

1493
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,760
I love it because they like 
cater their emails obviously to 

1494
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,280
like ADHD people. 
I was, I might have ADHD, but 

1495
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,120
I'm not fucking 12. 
Like the emails are just like 

1496
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,600
loads of emojis and they're 
like, we've got your follow up 

1497
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,000
letter. 
It's like mailbox letter big :) 

1498
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,520
well, I've done so much and I'm 
like, oh. 

1499
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,600
My, I think I'd appreciate that.
I'm like, oh, thank you. 

1500
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,840
It's just like we're only going 
to send you one sentence in this

1501
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,040
e-mail. 
If one thumbs up, I'm like hack,

1502
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,920
thank you. 
Yeah. 

1503
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,600
I'm like I've got like text 
messages like long text messages

1504
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,880
or when people if you send me 
like 4 messages before doing a 

1505
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,000
bit of information, I'm only 
reading the last one. 

1506
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,600
So I can do. 
It I miss shit. 

1507
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,640
Yeah, I miss everything. 
I feel like you haven't read 

1508
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,480
that message. 
I mean, I'm like. 

1509
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,600
No, I can't do it with voice 
notes. 

1510
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,840
I can do it with messages, but 
not with voice notes because if 

1511
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,880
I can't like see it all there, 
I've already forgotten what the 

1512
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,040
first voice out. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd write 

1513
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,320
notes. 
Obviously what you said about 

1514
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,840
the first, I've forgotten it 
already. 

1515
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,640
You're there, glasses on another
day, it's like 10. 

1516
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,320
Minutes. 
Roll yeah. 

1517
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,480
Going back to your first point. 
No, that is literally how I have

1518
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,360
to respond in the end because I 
have to like really strategize 

1519
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,320
myself and so I end up like 
sounding like I'm in a fucking 

1520
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,760
board meeting whenever I try and
replace anyone. .1 Yeah. 

1521
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,440
Fucking dump him. 
Yeah, but thank you so much. 

1522
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,200
Well, it was so nice to meet me.
And where can the lesbians find 

1523
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,800
you? 
They can find me at Pharrell 

1524
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,960
Hegarty on both TikTok and 
Insta. 

1525
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,520
Amazing. 
I'll also put it in the Lincoln 

1526
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,480
bio as well. 
But thanks again and I can't 

1527
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,040
wait for you guys to see her if 
you haven't already. 

1528
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Thank you babe. 
Goodbye lesbians. 

1529
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,960
We'll speak to you next week. 
Love you.

