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The Better Business Analysis 
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The Better Business Analysis 
Podcast with Benjamin Walsh. 

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Hi everybody, and welcome back 
to the Better Business Analysis 

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Podcast with Benjamin Walsh. 
And today we'll be talking about

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a special model that we've 
developed here at the Better 

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Business Analysis Institute. 
And this is something that's 

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open source and free for you to 
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And the model is the IEIT model.
It's really a framework for 

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project classification. 
And these classifications of a 

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type of project or a type of 
change will allow you to develop

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your Agile BA plans in such a 
way that you are setting this 

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project up for success. 
It also helps project managers 

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and architects alike. 
And it's something we don't talk

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about really when we start on a 
new piece of work. 

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Sometimes funding models 
influence these quadrant areas 

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and we'll talk about that. 
And we're going to work through 

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them on why we think this model 
is important, to be made 

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explicit and something an 
exercise you should be doing 

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when you start a project or even
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happening in your current 
project and to review whether or

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not you're doing the right 
things that are going to help 

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ultimately make this project a 
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So the week before last, I had 
the team here from Defiant to 

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talk about change and we talked 
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We talked about beliefs and we 
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And that's the soft skills. 
So important that you don't have

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those soft skills, then your 
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the more likely to succeed 
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And now I'm going to talk about 
some tangibles, some more of the

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hard stuff. 
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what what can we do and how can 
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a project more successful. 
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So the IEIT model I want you if 
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grab a piece of paper. 
You can do it on the computer if

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you like, but it would be easy 
just to draw a quadrant on a 

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piece of paper. 
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just across if you don't want to
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going to draw on our X&Y axis. 
If you can't, don't remember 

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that from school, the Y axis is 
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the X axis is 1 going left and 
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So we're going to be using this 
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talking about here and I'll if 
you're ready with your piece of 

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paper that might help. 
So the IEIT model categorizes 

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projects based on their level of
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OK. 
So that's one of our axes versus

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new and established. 
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So there's a spectrum there. 
So you have this Y axes new and 

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established and then along the X
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right, you have really an axis 
of improvement to 

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transformation. 
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be drawing on the end of the 
points improvement on the end 

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transformation on the other. 
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have new and then you'll have 
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with these four quadrants, if 
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between innovation establishment
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improved and transformation. 
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like an eye and an eye it will 
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Now this quadrant focuses on 
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products, services, processes 
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So there's an emphasis on 
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while minimizing, OK, if you're 
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trying something new in the 
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of innovation. 
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things that'll be right up there
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There'll be things that'll be 
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like it's, it's new for your 
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your bank to release this app, 
but it may not be something 

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that's new worldwide, OK. 
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innovation and they should be 
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we don't define them as true 
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But within that quadrant we can 
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projects, proof of concept 
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true minimum viable products 
with the capital P there for new

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ventures. 
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And this is the world where 
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sorry, product management has 
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other method. 
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This is where I would say agile 
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frameworks like Lean Startup. 
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area of innovation and 
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hot area that that that in some 
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category for a lot of companies,
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innovation teams, labs. 
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both exist. 
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when we move our product out of 
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sometimes to live freely within 
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exist. 
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That's another dimension that we
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smallest company innovating a 
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So true agile scrum, this is 
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methodologies really work well 
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product management which is, you
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and processes being the ideal 
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in. 
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quadrants in which it exists. 
So I'll give you an example for 

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this quadrant if you haven't 
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This will be when you are 
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example, for a coffee shop, 
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approach. 
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core functionality like ordering
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Get the first step out, you 
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tell you what they want to do 
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Cross all those ideas, you know,
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all the great things. 
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about this area. 
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It's where my heart sinks. 
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operate on a daily basis, 
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consultancy experiences and 
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actually innovation and 
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I and I is that if you're not 
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that's funding you or you don't 
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partners who are able to pay 
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A lot of us are unable to 
economically work in this 

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environment if we are supporting
families and what not or got a 

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big mortgage. 
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to get to. 
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companies try to replicate and 
big corporations and actually 

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sometimes they fail for lots of 
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not they. 
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improvement area is pumping out,
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incorporating these products 
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which is a podcast for another 
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All right, so let's move on to 
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And and you know, I do think 
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follow me along the way on your 
piece of paper. 

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So you understand, you will find
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All right. 
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innovation and transformation. 
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true innovation with a radical 
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or create entirely new markets. 
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types of things like true 
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This is where you're not 
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transforming a whole industry 
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Zealand were embarked on this 
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A lot of these, a lot of these 
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corporate structures work, 
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You've always got to like move 
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This is the area again, Elon 
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because he is someone who's on 
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where SpaceX operates. 
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does not operate anymore, which 
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bit up and down like a like a 
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terms of its share price. 
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another example. 
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just transform it with the 
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doing it now with the the kind 
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It doesn't just mean first to 
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using, you know, you're really 
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So the frameworks you want to 
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thinking. 
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for managing risk because you've
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for this. 
This is you, you can't. 

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Unfortunately a lot of us like 
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the start up company about a 
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an incubator and we were looking
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whole industry, right. 
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industry and in order for us to 
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capital to even compete in this 
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get like squished by the other 
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just didn't make it worth it. 
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literally had some big 
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necessary in the category we're 
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categories that we needed in 
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transform this or disrupt this, 
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at the time, made it next to 
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market. 
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new type of electric vehicle 
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could come up with a new battery
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range and reduced charging time,
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China. 
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this, then that project requires
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scientistic scientific people 
collaborating with external 

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partner partners and a really, 
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So people are taking a gamble. 
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firms will invest in these and 
they you might have heard the 

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term Unicorn companies. 
This is where V CS bit and put a

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holiday bits on holiday 
companies, some are very high 

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risk and you know the chances of
them actually breaking through 

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the market in this area are low.
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whole market, the return on 
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Then they go after what 
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So just some apps that might 
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than the rest. 
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portfolio I guess of things 
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where they're just going to get 
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So that's how kind of how they 
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and when it comes to Unicorn 
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transformation funding, they 
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them will fail. 
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get, you know they still make a 
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So we look at we're going to 
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and this is now space in which a
lot of BA play in OK, let's 

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So the last two one, sorry #3. 

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Our third quadrant is 
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So this quadrant focuses on 
optimizing existing solutions 

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for better performance or 
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Projects here aim to make 
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establish product services 
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This by far is the number one 
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projects or at least a business 
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reduce cost by, you know, taking
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improvement where they try and 
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establishment and improvement, 
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competitive advantage. 
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project into two pieces here. 
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establishing the the fundamental
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funding model, quite a different
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or build an app on top of it. 
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different skill sets. 
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establishment and improvement, E
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processes, Kaizen methods, small
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use Prince Two, we use PM Bock, 
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doing this at the Better 
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This is where a lot of the 
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processes and redesign we have 
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primarily it will be a better 
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establishment and improvement 
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enterprise resource planning 
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So do you do we understand that?

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improving on it, we're improving
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we're we're saying hey look it 
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process in our in our paper 
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period. 
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through the process improvement,
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be taking the current, you're 
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new, a new system which is the 
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screens, you might so you are 
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experience, but you're in an 
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transformation E And so this 
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established solutions and 
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processes and organizational 
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to play or what you actually 
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the word, radically redesigning 
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processes could be just just a 
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So they never were designed in 
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So in some ways you're actually 
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we're transforming something 
that wasn't wasn't quite you 

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know formed first place digital 
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business operates. 
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applications into one ERP tool, 
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staff through automation and AI 
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a that's a place here when we're
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transformation, true 
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industries requiring requiring a
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business right structures, 
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moving you know all your 
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acquisition company model. 
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of complexity and risk. 
People are are touched, people 

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lose jobs in this situation. 
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So we've got the four quadrants,
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improvement which is really 
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market based solutions. 
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When we are innovating, right, 
we're taking, we are still doing

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innovation, but we look and 
we're looking to transform an 

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industry, right. 
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innovation and improvement where
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You're putting out an app and 
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you're making it better and a 
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market, this is a really good, 
this is a safer place to to to 

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coming out, a phone based 
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accounts and really it's aiming 
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some ways, but let's say it's 
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that's already disrupted. 
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Uber or a search engine and you 
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it's just trying to be better 
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and you're you're so you're not 
you're just improving on that 

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So there's an existing market or
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after existing customers and you
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be done with innovation and 
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You are truly doing breakthrough
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You're taking a risk that in my 
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there's a market and you're 
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change an industry in which 
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establishment and improvement is
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solutions for better performance
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putting in. 
So don't don't don't get me 

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wrong here it's also about 
implementing systems and 

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improving them that you know 
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cloud, putting a a better ERP 
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establishment and transformation
where you're doing massive 

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transformation that could be IT 
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changing complete establishing a
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model or processes 
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infrastructure. 
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think about what project you're 
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you're not ABA, which pro which 
area do you think would be sound

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like the most fun. 
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the fact that they want to do 
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So they might they might know, 
hey look I'm not going to be 

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able to do this ground breaking 
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I'm not rocking the world. 
I work for a bank, but I'm, I 

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really want to be in the team 
that does innovation, 

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improvement, right, releases 
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It's really sexy and that's 
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team do that, follow those 
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people try to take those methods
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establishment and improvement or
establishment and transformation

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and they just don't work. 
They have a completely 

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different, you have to have a 
completely different approach 

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when you're working down at the 
established area, basically both

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the improvement and the 
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established business model, the 
you're going through business 

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cases. 
You can't be true agile, OK, you

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can't be true agile, you can't, 
it doesn't actually work. 

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You need to have more of a 
waterfall wrapper or a business 

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case wrapper around small agile 
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established area, OK? 
And when you do establishment 

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established environment is 
another way of saying that you, 

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you know you have change 
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organizational structure trees, 
you have process modeling. 

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So BA work very well in the 
established established area of 

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both improvement and 
transformation. 

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But you need to then work in 
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other areas like the innovation 
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So I hope you understand now 
about the IEIT model. 

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I hope that you can see what 
project you're doing and 

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understand that your approach to
the project needs to be 

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different, the set of processes,
frameworks that you need to be 

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different. 
But I'm also going to tell you 

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about something else that we've 
that we've talked about before 

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which is the 4P plus model. 
So the four P plus model also 

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developed by the Institute of 
Better Business Analysis is a a 

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model that exists regardless of 
which of these projects that 

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you're working on. 
So it's your consistent heart. 

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So you can wrap these four 
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model and the 4P plus model. 
If you can't remember what it 

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is, it's it. 
It talks about people, it talks 

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about processes, it talks about 
projects and it talks about 

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products and those four entities
and how they work and how and 

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that sequence they that exists 
regardless of which type of 

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project classification you're 
working on. 

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So you start in a different area
and you focus your attention and

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how you go about each of those 
stages and how you interact with

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people, what methodology you 
use, how in depth you go into 

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people for example, or project 
planning. 

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Or you know do you do a lean 
canvas, which is you know a real

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basic business case or do you do
a full business case. 

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That's determined by the the 
IEIT model, but the four P plus 

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model is consistent. 
So those two models hand in hand

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are very, very powerful and help
define our what when we're doing

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projects. 
I'm going to talk more about the

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what in the future and probably 
publish out some articles about 

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this and so you can kind of 
understand how these methods 

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work. 
But I hope that you've got value

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today and I'll see you next 
time.

