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The Better Business Analysis 
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The Better Business Analysis 
Podcast with Benjamin Walsh. 

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Hi everybody, and welcome back 
to the Better Business Analysis 

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Podcast with Benjamin Walsh. 
Now we're going to take a bit of

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a side road and we're going to 
go all the way back to my most 

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common question. 
So some of you who are already 

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BAS this episode, half of it 
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being straight up and for those 
who aren't BAS, this is going to

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be 100% useful for you. 
So I will try and weave in 

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aspects here that are 
interesting for all my audience 

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and there should be some top 
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So if you are ABA today, I want 
you to check this off some of 

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the points I bring up today and 
if you get 100% then you know 

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good on you. 
And if you are not abai want you

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to write down all these things 
and I want you to work through 

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this list. 
So what am I talking about? 

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I am talking about effectively 
your guide to becoming a 

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business analyst. 
I've talked about this before in

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different ways and shapes and 
form. 

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I'm going to try and walk you 
through what you would do today.

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OK, So if today you are 
listening to this podcast, you 

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may be a listener, A listener 
who frequently listens to the 

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show. 
You may have been one of the 

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listeners who listened to my top
podcast episodes, which are 

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always about how to become ABA 
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And if you are ABA, then I want 
you, like I said, to figure out 

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if you've done all these things 
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these things. 
This might be something that you

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can focus on now, especially if 
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So if you're out of work, it is 
a good time to go back and go. 

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What gaps have I developed or 
have I never filled along my 

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career journey? 
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train and to upskill and to go 
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learnt and do on the fly. 
Learnt, you know, the the, the 

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school of Hard Knocks they call 
it, you know, you've just learnt

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as you've gone. 
And like any sports game, if 

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you're involved in any sport, 
the first thing that a 

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performance coach will do is 
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You will be told to unlearn what
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In order to get better you need 
to unlearn first. 

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Start with a blank piece of 
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Follow some of the best 
techniques that exist in 2024 

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and then you know and then you 
and then apply your knowledge 

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that you've learned and then you
excel to be even better instead 

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of just flatlining in your 
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So we're going to decode the 
Path, your guide to becoming a 

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business analyst. 
So I'm going to welcome you, 

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future business analyst and 
existing business analyst, 

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through today's episode of The 
Career Crossroads. 

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I I imagine that you're 
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and data and processes and 
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Do you dream of bridging the gap
between business needs and 

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technology solutions? 
Becoming ABA a business analyst 

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is probably the perfect career 
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Have you found this podcast 
through the mini different ways 

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on Apple podcast or Spotify, 
your favorite podcast app? 

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Then you know then you've made 
the first great step because 

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there aren't many BA podcasts 
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Mainly because the PAS who do 
the podcast don't have anything 

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to talk about, whereas I'm 
trying to get you to learn with 

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me every day. 
So if it was just a podcast 

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about being ABA, then it 
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Whereas we talk about different 
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Better Business Analysis podcast
and we focused on the better. 

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We focus on the fact that the 
world changes, that there are 

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new techniques that we need to 
look outside our field to bring 

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into our field. 
We need to define our field. 

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And so becoming ABA today is 
quite different to becoming ABA 

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10 years ago or even 25 years 
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effectively coming out of school
into their mindset. 

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There are so many pathways and 
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We've talked about the spectrum.
We've talked about the fact that

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you know a data business analyst
is quite different from an agile

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business analyst who's different
from ABA who's internal versus a

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project versus a consultant and 
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But I've got you covered. 
Today we're going to explore how

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to equip yourself with the right
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No matter what your education 
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I am going to try and talk about
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schooling you can get from 
university, but also just online

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platforms, even LinkedIn. 
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free options there, as well as 
some paid options. 

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And the paid options are going 
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the average person should be 
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at a career change. 
Any career change costs money 

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either in time either not 
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But I guarantee you a return on 
investment for the training that

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I recommend. 
When I say that, I mean that if 

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you do the training that I'm 
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ABA job and the BA job, if 
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generally pays more than the 
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So you'll be able to pay back 
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through your wages if you're 
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Now I'm going to put a big 
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At the moment in New Zealand at 
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We've had a new government that 
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costs, especially in the public 
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reducing staff numbers, but they
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And they're nervous about the 
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come up with kind of, sorry, 
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program planning where they take
programs to treasury and get 

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funding reviewed and approved. 
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line items and projects. 
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funding cycle that we experience
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sector isn't there. 
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putting strain on contractor 
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people out of work, good people 
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to flood the market a bit. 
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And So what I'm trying to say is
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than supply when it comes to 
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space and other project members.
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So that's the problem we're 
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That's the why. 
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about? 
How are you going to make 

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yourself better than the other 
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We're going to talk about that 
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And it starts with training, it 
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it, it starts with being 
exposed, it starts with not 

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being stale. 
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working for Careers New Zealand,
which then became the Tertiary 

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Education Commission or was 
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a lot of work on the career 
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The career system strategy, I 
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the world still today about it 
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I loved it. 
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really important to know when 
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out of work, and this is if 
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out of work, this is a really 
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to be aware of. 
There is a six month kind of. 

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You have a six month period up 
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first six months, months in 
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unemployment, especially if 
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things. 
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you like, before your motivation
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the rest of us. 
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get into depression. 
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themselves. 
It's a terrible place to be. 

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So really if you're out of work 
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work for a while, then this is 
your chance to change your focus

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to a new career path. 
If you if you're within that six

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month window and get started 
today, I'm going to give you an 

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action at the end of this 
podcast, an action plan like I 

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said and do all these things and
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So I want we've talked about the
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little bit, but I'm going to 
just talk about the BA landscape

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as a whole, as a general whole. 
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we can say without sorry without
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other episodes. 
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is around analyzing business 
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elicitating requirements, 
facilitating workshops, and and 

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ultimately coming up with 
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working with the team to come up
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And when we'll say solutions, we
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product or technical solution. 
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solve these root causes and 
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that we have identified. 
So an action plan, if you like. 

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So if you don't know what the 
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give you one free training 
course straight away, which is 

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happens our training course. 
It's a free course, very, very 

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simple. 
It is aimed at those who want to

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know more about what ABA does. 
It is called Introduction to 

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Business. 
It's available on BBA dot 

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institute for free. 
Right now you don't pay 

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anything, you just sign up. 
You just do the course and you 

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are done and you'll get a 
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That shows that you know at 
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Or, and if you and if you if 
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still not sure what ABA does, 
this can happen. 

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Do the course. 
It's very simple. 

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So number one, that's your first
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You can also Google what ABA 
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I suggest that that course. 
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introduction is I think there's 
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what ABA does. 
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good starter. 
It's free, you can do that 

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straight away. 
There's there's no catch when I 

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say free. 
So that will help you understand

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what ABA does. 
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that, but I I'm going to assume 
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If you don't know, pause the 
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Go away. 
Your first action item is listen

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more to these podcasts where I 
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But go and do that 'cause right 
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long. 
Take you a couple hours Max. 

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Pause the podcast. 
Come back. 

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OK. 
So welcome back. 

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I assume you've gone and done 
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is now you know what ABA does, 
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So you know the definition. 
I'm not, again, I'm not going to

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go into detail here. 
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introduction course and later in
our certified business analysis 

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course, which are paid, but 
we'll talk about how you can get

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those for next to nothing. 
What we've got here is that ABA 

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also what you need to realize is
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BABAS are work across a large 
diverse amount of industries, OK

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and specialization. 
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verticals, so from academia down
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e-commerce, BAS actually work 
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It's just the amount that that 
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with business analysis. 
But I would say that I have seen

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B as work in areas that I 
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a natural like banking is where 
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But farming is huge. 
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obviously web, web development 
companies that have B as 

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internally. 
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B as you've got consultants, 
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So what's really cool about the 
job is being ABA and you 

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experience this more as a 
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But of course you can actually 
probably get ABA role within an 

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industry that you're a 
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So you're a passionate about 
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You could probably be ABA within
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passionate about farming and 
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You can probably get ABA job you
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local farming Co-op or the the 
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If you're interested in sport, 
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football team. 
I know the Super Bowl's coming 

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up. 
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there will be B as all the way 
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There will be a company like 
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organization or with 
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BA opportunities. 
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getting people who want to work 
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for them to just feel better 
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opposed to doing something you 
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or you're working in an industry
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existing BA, get out of it, OK? 
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doing, you know, look, look at 
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roles in your area, go on 
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if there are BA roles available 
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a a search product in New 
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the job market Or trade me jobs 
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And there will be hundreds of 
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Think Sikhs in the UKI can't 
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of my head. 
Just do a search for business 

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analysts in your area. 
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Search for business analysts in 
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in your area. 
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BA role should be in person 
remote BA roles. 

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you might have an opportunity to
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York. 
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don't know, New Mexico, maybe 
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Mexico. 
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search around that area. 
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there are listed. 
Just put Business analysis 

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analyst in there. 
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look and see if they mention the
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word intermediate or junior. 
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might say graduate BA. 
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you're looking for. 
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depends on where you're at in 
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they have those available the 
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intermediate BA roles or just BA
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with a general gist of what ABA 
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millions of years of experience,
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ABA yet. 
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for other industries that you're
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I for example in New Zealand and
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they're New Zealand based 
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about them in the US apart from 
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remember I was between jobs and 
it happens often when you're in 

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contracting. 
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contract had finished and I 
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another contract. 
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right kind of unemployment. 
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could get work because the 
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so I felt like I had the right 
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work. 
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that I wanted to work for in New
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I'm not willing to to kind of 
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I've done that. 
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cities either even within New 
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different for you. 
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for a job then then open your 
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like we said, work is a big part
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have a, you know a partner, a 
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that are might that are like, 
you know have have their choices

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about where they want to live, 
you're not the sole provider in 

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the family then you know look, 
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outside your area for me that 
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I'm quite happy in my house with
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dog. 
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that limited me to the area I 
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New Zealand, the capital city. 
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changed, but they had offices 
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So you may have heard of 0. 
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it's quite big. 
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Thiel, who is an interesting 
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Elon Musk. 
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because I want to break in 
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product for your accounting and 
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Zealand. 
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had a really good culture and I 
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could dabble in doing a role 
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website, they didn't have any 
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contacted them and said hey, do 
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said, and sorry I didn't just 
say, hey, do you have any jobs I

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wrote why I wanted to work for 
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provide to them. 
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the companies I worked for, but 
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their company, I was interested 
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letting me know that the type of
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of dollars. 
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unfortunately for me was below 
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in my in, you know, in the 
expenses I've acquired and the 

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mortgage I've acquired and the 
and the cost that I acquired. 

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more actually. 
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to have you. 
This is kind of what we pay for 

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those roles, unless you would 
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And you know, they gave me some 
choices and I actually contacted

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Shizzi's in New Zealand as well.
I've got a similar kind of reply

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and a couple of other companies.
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be Google. 
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of interest. 
Microsoft, for example, Apple, 

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there might be some bigger 
companies, but you might have 

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some small great companies in 
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So don't, don't, don't hold 
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especially if you're out of 
work, explain the training and 

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upskilling that you've done. 
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you need to do if you are not 
ABA today is talk about 

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transferable skills. 
I'll take some knowledge that I 

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acquired from when I did career 
planning and then as there are a

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number of transferable skills, 
look up transferable skills if 

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you don't know what they are. 
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communication, critical thinking
and problem solving now. 

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Communication, presentation, 
ability, facilitation, 

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workshopping, critical thinking,
problem solving, documentation, 

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working with software, these are
all skills that you could have 

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if you're managers today. 
You could have developed these 

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skills you know perfectly within
a warehouse manager. 

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Now I will transfer across to 
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If you did presentations as a 
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plumbing firm that you know, I 
don't know, provided custom 

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tubing and piping, but you were 
able to speak in front of an 

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audience and present and sell 
with a PowerPoint presentation 

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in a clear, concise way, that's 
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comes to being ABA. 
I'm also going to go on a side 

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note, talk about who I hire as 
ABA. 

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Most of the BA hires that I've 
made across my career are not 

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always the ones who have the 
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years as ABA. 
I've hired people that have, you

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know, a range from those who 
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BA, which, and there aren't many
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way, like a master's degree, but
offered by like two or three 

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providers. 
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straight from grads who know 
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So they've they're graduates who
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program. 
I've hired them as junior BAS. 

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I've hired people who were 
nurses. 

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I've hired people that were 
people from the army ex cops. 

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I've hired people that have, you
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background. 
I've hired, you know, a whole 

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range of people who are from 
different walks of life. 

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Generally, if you're from a 
trade, I don't see a lot of 

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people apply. 
I would hire someone from a 

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trade because I think some of 
the abilities can be 

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transferable. 
But a lot of people in trades, 

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you know, may not like the idea 
of working in an office or may 

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think there's a huge step. 
I don't believe so. 

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My best friend is is a is a 
tradie and he has some of the 

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abilities that I would love to 
hire if he wanted to be ABA. 

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However, I wouldn't recommend 
you be stuck in an office all 

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day. 
And he he, you know is in a 

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lucky enough position in some 
ways that he gets to travel and 

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get out of it. 
So you know, you have to you 

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have to appreciate the office 
life when you're ABA. 

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Now if you are young, if you 
were actually still at school, 

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I'm not going to assume that 
you're an old fart like me. 

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You know then and you're still 
at school or or you your child 

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is interested in this path at 
the moment. 

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Then you know things like maths,
statistics, Economics and 

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Business management are the 
subjects you want to focus on. 

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I would say that the other thing
you should do and and you can do

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this at any age too, is join a 
club and do activities. 

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Toastmasters, if you're happen 
to be involved in some community

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group, church group, take the 
opportunity to present there. 

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That's a small step interaction 
with other people faking it 

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until you make it. 
If you you know autistic for 

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example, and you find it hard to
communicate with other people 

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that hold you back, or you're 
just naturally shy and and 

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you're in a position where you 
can deal with people you know, 

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an environment where there's 
people and activities, then then

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push yourself in that direction.
Fake, you know, networking but 

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join a club, because in a club 
you're forced to talk to each 

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other. 
That's better than just going to

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a networking event and 
introducing yourself. 

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If you do activities you know, 
go on to some websites like meet

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up, join a hobby group you like,
anything like that will help. 

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And if you are involved in a 
group already, then ask for 

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opportunities to present, to do 
award ceremonies, to organize 

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something and to be able to 
communicate as much as possible.

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If you're confident at that yet,
like I said, join Toastmasters. 

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Record yourself on YouTube. 
You can do it. 

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I watched the documentary the 
other day on Mr. Beast, probably

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the most famous YouTube out 
there. 

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Young guy in his 20s. 
You don't have Mr. Beast as then

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Google Mr. Beast and he was 
talking about the fact that he 

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was very shy at school. 
I hated the school because he 

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was shy and what he could do 
though is record himself in 

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front of a video and some of the
stuff early stuff was quite 

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cringy but he just fake fake 
fake recorded himself on YouTube

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and posted it online and then he
created community from there and

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you know he obviously is a a 
multi millionaire now provides 

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entertainment but you can tell 
that he's someone by just 

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looking at him that he's faked 
it until he has made it now. 

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So so just that's a top tip just
record yourself, post something 

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on YouTube, If you're passionate
about cats then maybe just post 

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a video about you talking about 
your cats anything. 

452
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960
It's not even about the views or
who even sees it. 

453
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,200
The fact that you have taken the
step to record yourself and put 

454
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,840
yourself out there is amazing. 
If you feel confident about 

455
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,560
talking about a topic, tell me, 
message me, message me on 

456
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
LinkedIn and let's get you on 
the show and let's talk about 

457
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,120
something you can do out of a 
passion and I'll link it back to

458
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,880
business analysis. 
I'm happy to help out here if 

459
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,560
you feel like that that's the 
push you need in order to be a 

460
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920
great BA. 
Now if you're at higher 

461
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,840
education, if you've if you've 
finished school and either you 

462
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,400
are looking at changing a roles 
or a changer, you've been out of

463
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,840
work for a while or you are 
going to study at uni or 

464
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,160
college. 
In the US they call it then 

465
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520
computer science, Data Analysis,
project management and business 

466
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800
management are great skills or 
area subjects to do. 

467
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,680
At higher education tertiary, we
call it tertiary education 

468
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,320
courses. 
You can go and look at some of 

469
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,880
those. 
You can look at adult courses, 

470
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,440
night courses to study at those 
areas. 

471
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Obviously if you are like you 
you're looking to go back and 

472
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
study and get a a full degree. 
If you found that on those job 

473
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,760
ads, a degree is a you know a 
minimum requirement which I hate

474
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200
by the way. 
I'd never look at people's 

475
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,600
degrees but well that's not true
unless it's ABA degree and and I

476
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,320
know that that is their 
experience. 

477
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360
I look at it but I would not 
hire someone over a degree 

478
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,960
versus someone who has had many 
years on complex projects. 

479
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,560
You know, it doesn't matter to 
me that what I do like about a 

480
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,280
degree, and and this is true, is
that you have stuck to something

481
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,400
outside of school in your adult 
life for 3-4 years. 

482
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,040
The fact that someone has to 
make a commitment for three to 

483
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,040
four years to something, that is
the impressive part about the 

484
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,000
university, OK? 
And I've continued to learn. 

485
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Now, if you've joined the army, 
if you've been in the army for a

486
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,640
long time, then that again, is a
great skill. 

487
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720
You're you've got discipline. 
You have to communicate. 

488
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,200
You're under pressure, so, so 
don't be scared about promoting 

489
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,000
that when you've or you know, 
place, force or whatever it is 

490
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,120
where you've been forced to do 
some training for a long, long 

491
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:43,000
period of time. 
That's a great way to you know, 

492
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
that's a way great way to talk 
about transferable skills and 

493
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680
your ability to have commitment.
You do need that commitment side

494
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,160
you do need. 
The ABA is not a fly in the 

495
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040
night kind of career path. 
It is something that you need in

496
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,360
depth experience to get better 
and to get paid more and to 

497
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560
excel you and you know it's 
consistent learning in the BA 

498
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640
field. 
Just coming back to the Army 

499
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Defence Force reference, I know 
this happens in New Zealand, but

500
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,640
if you are in the army or you've
got children in the army and you

501
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,560
and they're looking at becoming 
ABA, then of course you have the

502
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,760
opportunity to study via the 
army generally as well. 

503
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,400
So you know the credits you 
could use this might be a great 

504
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,000
skill to have in addition to 
your kind of combat defense 

505
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,120
skills that you're requiring. 
Whatever you're doing this this 

506
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880
could actually be quite a good 
parallel. 

507
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,320
You know business, business 
administration, information 

508
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,800
systems and data science and 
specialist BA programs might be 

509
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,760
a great thing to study if 
they're paying for it. 

510
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,040
So if you're if you get you know
study credits, I would suggest 

511
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,240
that great degree options. 
So when you did come out of your

512
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,240
time serving you are in a 
really, really good position and

513
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,960
you know those skills will be 
important and will grow as we 

514
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960
grow as a more information rich 
society. 

515
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,720
You if you're not doing that or 
you are in the middle of a 

516
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000
degree then you want to try and 
choose some subjects that have 

517
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
strong analytical and 
communication components. 

518
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
So if you're doing an art degree
right now, then try and look at 

519
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,360
communication papers and maybe 
the ability to present. 

520
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,120
You can also join internships 
and volunteer opportunities. 

521
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,880
That's a great way. 
If you don't have a job today 

522
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,960
and you're not getting work, or 
you're straight up being a grad 

523
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,880
and no one wants to hire you 
because you've got no user 

524
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,720
experience, do an internship, 
look for them and volunteer 

525
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
volunteering to a charity for 
example. 

526
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Your skills that you've just 
learned as a grad is a fantastic

527
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,000
one of gaming experience and and
potentially leapfrogging via 

528
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
venue to other charities and 
then paid work. 

529
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,600
So don't underestimate the 
volunteer side. 

530
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,560
It could actually be your best 
way of doing it for six months 

531
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,000
of non paid work. 
You know, living off, you know, 

532
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,480
beans and cans and white bread 
and water and then that 

533
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960
experience could be enough for 
you to then get that internship 

534
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,120
or that grad role. 
Now I talked about, you know, 

535
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280
where you're at in terms of, you
know, deepening your experience 

536
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,200
in terms of university or strong
foundation. 

537
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400
But let's talk about online 
treasures here. 

538
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,560
This is learning at your 
fingertips. 

539
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,000
So everyone's doing this at the 
moment. 

540
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,160
Younger people are better than 
us old farts in terms of 

541
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
YouTube. 
You know, you go, I think I was 

542
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,600
speaking the other day to a 
young, a younger child, and I 

543
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,920
was saying, oh, do you know how 
to do that? 

544
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,880
And I said, Nah, I just look on 
YouTube and I was thinking I'd 

545
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880
never do that. 
Like for for me, I might look at

546
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:03,040
YouTube as like a as like an 
additional complementary 

547
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
learning activity. 
But man, I wouldn't go on 

548
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,800
YouTube to learn how to, I don't
know, hammer nail appropriately 

549
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000
into a piece of wood. 
I probably should because I've 

550
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,800
never really been taught how to 
do that properly. 

551
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,040
But I wouldn't think to do that.
So YouTube is a fantastic tool 

552
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,000
for learning if you know how to 
do it and you feel like that is 

553
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
a method for you. 
But there's course here. 

554
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Course here is fantastic. 
I've done heaps of courses on 

555
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,800
course here. 
I've been real cheap. 

556
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880
I've gone on there, done a free 
trial, you know, smashed down a 

557
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,600
course. 
I didn't even need to pay for 

558
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,960
the course that I did. 
Some of the best training was on

559
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120
there from some of the 
universities actually in the US 

560
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,160
and they were fantastic. 
There's obviously edx, which is 

561
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,920
not so bad, but the interface of
course is better. 

562
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,680
Udemy and they offer some BA 
course and certifications. 

563
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,680
I would say there's some good 
options to look at specialist 

564
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,200
areas. 
In terms of BA specific courses,

565
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,159
you've got the IBA 
certifications which are a bit 

566
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,679
dry and I will do some terrible 
self promotion. 

567
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360
I would suggest that the 
Certified Better Business 

568
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Analysis level one course that 
we offer is by far the best 

569
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,159
level one course available that 
I have found or seen and if if 

570
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
if that changes I'm going to 
make it, I'm going to make it 

571
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,360
even better. 
It is a self-guided course. 

572
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,760
There is there is learner 
training which is done in groups

573
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,679
or online. 
If you want to purchase that in 

574
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,639
a group, get a bunch of buddies 
together or there's the 

575
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,360
self-paced learning. 
Now safe pals say let me repeat 

576
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,760
that self-paced learning is 
never the same as kind of 

577
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,360
classroom interactive training. 
The I do think that a level one 

578
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,320
course needs to be even better 
with the way in which you self 

579
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,800
learn. 
But the the BBA Level One course

580
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,960
Certified Better Business 
Analysis Level One course is I 

581
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,360
think one of the best courses 
online. 

582
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,640
I know I'm totally blowing my 
own trumpet here that can give 

583
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,880
you a full package day one how 
to be ABA. 

584
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Now you know we have our prices 
on online, but I'm going to at 

585
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,720
the end of this podcast, if you 
keep listening, I'll send some 

586
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,680
links through and offer a huge 
discount to you learners if you 

587
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,480
want to do that course. 
I'm less worried about the time 

588
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,240
and effort that goes into our 
tutors to mark as long as we 

589
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,560
cover those costs. 
I'm more worried about the fact 

590
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,480
that I really want strong BAS 
out there. 

591
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,680
So that course is great and if 
you want to flavor to the kind 

592
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,760
of learning system we use, the 
Introduction to BA course, the 

593
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,720
free one, We use the same kind 
of learning platform, but the 

594
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480
trust me, the Certified Better 
Business Analysis Level One 

595
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,240
course is a long course and 
should take you around if you're

596
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,680
doing it 2 to 4 hours a week, 
four, six weeks to complete. 

597
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,120
You can crank that up and do it 
fast if you like, but there are 

598
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000
a lot of assignments and you 
know the idea is that you are 

599
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920
sweaty at the end of that 
course, you are sweating and 

600
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:21,320
your brain is full and you are 
ready to be a great BA. 

601
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,800
Also, if you do complete that 
course and I've seen your work, 

602
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080
then I'm happy or the Institute 
is happy. 

603
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,280
It might not be me, but it'll be
one of my staff will write you a

604
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,080
reference for a job that you're 
going for no problem because we 

605
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,840
would have seen your work and of
course involves you doing some 

606
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,400
projects and so you know, that's
one other. 

607
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Another thing that you can can 
chuckle on your LinkedIn profile

608
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,200
now, LinkedIn Learning, which 
was Lyndacom before it was 

609
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,960
acquired by LinkedIn Learning. 
I've mentioned this before, you 

610
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,800
can get free LinkedIn Learning 
either through the trial but 

611
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,760
also through your local library.
I don't know that everywhere in 

612
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,880
the world, but I'm pretty damn 
sure it's true. 

613
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,680
If you go to your local library,
sign up to your local library, 

614
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040
which shouldn't cost you a cent 
through their website, you 

615
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,520
should be able to actually get 
free LinkedIn Learning. 

616
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,400
It's. 
I knew it was a bit difficult to

617
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,280
kind of keep your learning on 
your profile, but but try it 

618
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,840
out. 
There will be Google it, but 

619
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,240
LinkedIn Learning has some great
great courses on there I would 

620
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,800
say. 
You know, I don't know if it 

621
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120
justifies the per month cost 
forever, but if you're out of 

622
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
work, you know, and you're just 
doing the free month or like an 

623
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,240
additional free month and then 
you cancel, it's worth it. 

624
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Same with Corsia. 
So Corsia, LinkedIn Learning are

625
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
by far my favorite for 
additional learning. 

626
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,840
I have used it for specialist 
areas within business analysis 

627
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,720
or those kind of sub areas like 
agile or product management or 

628
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,960
just facilitation. 
Really, really, really good and 

629
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,240
it won't cost you the earth. 
You might find some you know, 

630
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:03,320
like I said free courses on 
YouTube as well and don't, don't

631
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,640
even though some of these 
courses and I feel, I do feel 

632
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560
this way. 
So don't don't feel like you're 

633
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,680
the only one. 
Sometimes they feel a bit cheap,

634
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,960
don't they? 
Don't you think you know you do 

635
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160
an online course and you think 
there's people going to think 

636
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,400
you know that I've just done a 
budget course now if the it's 

637
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,560
really around the length of the 
course the depth of the course. 

638
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600
I have found that some LinkedIn 
learning that I've done. 

639
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
You know I didn't feel overly 
proud of just pasting it on my 

640
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
profile. 
I you don't have to post every 

641
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,320
training you do on LinkedIn. 
Pretty obvious when someone's 

642
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,880
out of work and they're in the 
training mindset and you get 

643
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,120
50,000 notifications. 
I've completed a a training. 

644
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,440
I would only do the ones that 
you feel like you. 

645
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560
You know you don't have to post 
those to your profile and annoy 

646
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,760
everyone. 
So you don't have to do that by 

647
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,640
the way, you can just add it to 
your profile. 

648
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,560
But the other thing, and so you 
do want to do that by the way, 

649
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Add all your courses to your 
profile and any presentations 

650
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
you've done. 
Make it a portfolio of your 

651
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,120
work. 
What I would do is safely, if 

652
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,320
you've done your certified 
Better Business analysis level 

653
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,000
one course or your Introduction 
to Business analysis or a course

654
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560
here course where you get a 
certification that's verified, 

655
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,800
those are the ones you do want 
to post. 

656
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,320
You do want to promote it. 
You want to talk about why you 

657
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,320
did it and not just the 
certificate, why you did that, 

658
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,160
and the fact you're looking for 
work and you're interested in 

659
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640
this, that's a join those 
communities. 

660
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040
That's a really good way of not 
only promoting your learning 

661
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,960
that are that that is in depth 
learning, which does show your 

662
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,640
skills. 
They're really the treasure of 

663
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960
online, not just the online 
crappy course. 

664
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,200
You will be able to have other 
people talk about it, or you can

665
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,960
recommend the course, so use 
that as a networking 

666
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,240
opportunity. 
And as you do that, you're 

667
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,280
connected with mentors, 
teachers, you're following some 

668
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,960
other B as you're seeing what 
their journey is, you're 

669
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,840
connecting with other students 
on the course. 

670
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,880
It's a good thing about course 
here, You know potential 

671
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
employers are looking around 
here, or at least recruitment 

672
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
agents. 
Join all the groups, the study 

673
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,120
groups, the discussion groups. 
Make sure your profile is 

674
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,720
showcasing those skills and the 
expertise. 

675
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,360
One of the things that I do look
for when looking at candidates 

676
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,840
profiles on LinkedIn is how 
often they post. 

677
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Have they done any recent study?
So if you've done recent study 

678
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,960
for me, that's a tech. 
Yeah, there might be 20 techs 

679
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,480
I'm looking for that's one of 
the 20. 

680
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,720
And the fact that you've even 
tried to upskill, I find it even

681
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:40,640
more more attractive sometimes 
or more critical in the training

682
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,840
process. 
If I've seen ABA who has 1520 

683
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920
years of experience has worked 
at two places, I kind of think 

684
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
they might be stale. 
Have they done into training And

685
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,440
when I gone through the profile 
and I see that you know Brian 

686
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,840
has done a Six Sigma course or 
an introduction to BA course or 

687
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,680
a process modeling BPMN course 
and posted on profile recently. 

688
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,720
Then I know Brian is not you 
know is not stale. 

689
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Brian is is keeping up with his 
courses. 

690
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,800
He he's identifying that as part
of BA which is so big that you 

691
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,280
know he's not as strong with BP 
men or never done BP men. 

692
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,040
If they have examples of their 
work on their LinkedIn profile, 

693
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,480
that is awesome. 
Hard to do sometimes if you're 

694
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,080
doing work for corporations, but
if you're doing some volunteer 

695
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,800
work, maybe you could even ask 
that organization if it's OK if 

696
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,240
they process non sensitive 
processed documentation online. 

697
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,240
The other area I would say is 
when you're actively networking,

698
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:49,000
you're attending network events.
That's a great way of finding an

699
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,160
area of interest that you're 
that you like. 

700
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,040
I talked about like farming, 
maybe it's not even BA. 

701
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,080
So you go into a farming event 
and then when people go, what do

702
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,960
you do? 
You go, well I'm, I'm a I'm ABA 

703
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,200
or I've just learnt got my 
degree in BA or I've just done 

704
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,960
my certified Better Business 
analysis course. 

705
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,200
So you know, I really want to be
a role and then I go, oh that's 

706
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,760
interesting, we're just, we just
learn about BAS and we want one 

707
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,640
down at our development company.
So connect with those, connect 

708
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:20,360
with experienced BA, Follow me 
on LinkedIn if you're not and 

709
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,520
stay up to date with industry 
trends and software used by BAS 

710
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,040
that changes often with AI. 
I'm still looking for the best 

711
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,320
online process, a generation 
tool. 

712
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000
So basically if I just write my 
notes out, will it draw a 

713
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,680
process diagram for a startup 
for 10:00? 

714
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,080
I've got tools that do that, but
then I need to export them and 

715
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
then you know they're not 
integrated with tools like draw 

716
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,000
dot IO or Vizio. 
I'm sure Microsoft hopefully 

717
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,400
will add that into Copilot, but 
I'm still looking for that. 

718
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,400
That's great tools that will 
save me time. 

719
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,040
I love whiteboarding tools and 
what they can provide. 

720
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,440
And I think that you need to 
remember that becoming ABA is 

721
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,960
kind of a unique path to you. 
But what I do want you to do is 

722
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,640
write down, right? 
If you're not ABA today, I want 

723
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,280
you to write down 10 things. 
If you're ABA today, write down 

724
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440
three things. 
So if you're not ABA today, I 

725
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,480
want to write down 10 things 
you're going to do in order to 

726
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,080
get you to be a being ABA. 
I've mentioned some on this 

727
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,360
podcast. 
Go back and listen 10 things 

728
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,760
you're going to do to promote 
yourself so you can feel proud 

729
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080
to say I am ABA. 
And if you're not, if you're an 

730
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,320
existing BA and you feel like 
some skills are rusty, write 

731
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,160
down three areas that you feel 
like you're weak in and go and 

732
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,760
get training for that. 
OK? 

733
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,600
And that should include updating
your LinkedIn profile to make 

734
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,720
sure it's the best It has a 
photo and showcase some of your 

735
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,040
work. 
Now, some of you will be 

736
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,040
listening to this and it will be
like I'm telling you how to suck

737
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,560
eggs here. 
But there's always something 

738
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,240
that you can learn to be better.
So if you think you're the bee's

739
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,440
knees, if you've covered off, 
you have the best LinkedIn 

740
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,800
profile, you're networking, 
you're doing all the courses, 

741
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,480
you've got your C back. 
You know, you've looked at the 

742
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,720
certified Better Business 
analysis, label one course and 

743
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,480
said, oh, I know everything in 
there. 

744
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,400
I won't get any value from doing
it. 

745
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,680
Then what I suggest you do is go
and look at some specialist 

746
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,720
areas, OK. 
How does AI relate to business 

747
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,720
analysis? 
What is the latest sensation in 

748
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,360
data analysis? 
How is customer experience 

749
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,880
changing? 
With some of the tools we've got

750
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,520
now into the collecting customer
insights. 

751
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,680
What is product management? 
How does AI relate to the tools 

752
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,280
I use? 
What are the latest features of 

753
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,560
some of the BA tools in JIRA and
Muro that I can utilize on my 

754
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,080
next engagement? 
Are my tools and templates in my

755
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,360
BA kit that I carry around old? 
Do I need to update them? 

756
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Do I need to look at the word of
design thinking and integrate 

757
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,680
some of the, you know, some of 
the tools that I've design and 

758
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,000
design thinking and replace some
of my old tools in terms of the 

759
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,000
five whys or problem analysis? 
Do I need to introduce introduce

760
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,560
dialing canvas or a business 
model canvas into my toolkit? 

761
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,280
You know, will I get benefit 
going and study business 

762
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,760
analysis specialization courses 
on Corsia? 

763
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,320
Do I need to do my CBAP? 
Do I want to do that for my IBA?

764
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,320
Think about some of those 
aspects. 

765
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,920
If you're an existing BA and you
feel like you've got everything 

766
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:40,960
you need and I'm going to finish
here now on this course, I hope 

767
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,240
I've covered really the career 
crossroads. 

768
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,400
I've decode helped you to decode
the path which is sometimes 

769
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,640
murky in terms of your guide of 
becoming ABA or a better BA. 

770
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,240
So that's me today and I'm just 
going to finish with a word 

771
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,320
around the certified Better 
Business Analysis level one 

772
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,800
course, our Certified Better 
Business Analysis course, which 

773
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,680
is available at BBA dot 
Institute today. 

774
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,480
We we provided in different 
methods as I said, but there is 

775
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,600
the online training course. 
OK. 

776
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,640
Now the online training course 
is the most cost effective 

777
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:26,680
option for you to become ABA. 
Now you can do that by going to 

778
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,040
our website and looking up the 
certified bit of business 

779
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,760
analysis, the one course under 
the BA training link. 

780
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Usually this is done in class 
over 2 days or the online 

781
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,600
training is done over a six 
week, six week, six week period.

782
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,120
Sorry about that. 
Now the cost is 899 New Zealand 

783
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,600
dollars, not U.S. dollars. 
So that's, I don't know what the

784
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,640
conversion rate and U.S. 
dollars, but I think it's around

785
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,480
600 US, not that much. 
If you contact me on LinkedIn 

786
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,040
and tell me of course you're 
doing and we, I want to know the

787
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,240
story about you, why you're 
doing this course where you are 

788
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,680
in your journey. 
Then I will provide you with a 

789
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,680
voucher for 25% off, OK, 25% off
there. 

790
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,920
So if if you're in New Zealand, 
it's $900, then you know, you 

791
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:30,360
can smack, let me do some math 
around $225 off there or $50 off

792
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960
there. 
And in the US, you know it will 

793
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,800
be the same, it will be the same
percentage, 25% off. 

794
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,520
I'll give you a voucher you can 
use to start the course today. 

795
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Then I'll give you 80 plus 
lessons, 16 assignments and 

796
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
there will be a practice exam 
and a final exam as well as the 

797
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Certified Data Business Analyst 
Level 1 certification and 

798
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,120
verification where you can share
that on LinkedIn. 

799
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,960
OK, team. 
Thanks for listening and I'll 

800
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,680
see you next time.
