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Today I'm here with Mike 
Janetta, A fellow club runner. 

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Mike, why don't you start off 
with a bit of history about how 

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you came to running? 
Hello, I'm Mike. 

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Probably. 
Probably, like when I was a kid,

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like, but personal, actually. 
Like, I probably started running

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just to clear my head. 
Like maybe my dad separated when

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I was younger. 
And like, you know, just like, 

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you know, run to like a bit of a
quiet place and just just go out

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running and just, I don't know, 
just deal with all that stuff in

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your head growing up. 
So it was kind of like a way of 

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just chilling out, I suppose, 
just just that I could go out on

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my bike as well. 
It just gives you a bit of 

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freedom. 
So I suppose, like, that's 

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really why when I first started 
running, I was a kid and then it

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wasn't like serious running. 
It wasn't running fast or 

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anything. 
I started playing hockey when I 

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was a bit older. 
I did a bit of running just to 

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maintain my match. 
Fitness like a lot of hockey was

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like shuttles back and forward, 
up and down the pitch and we 

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were defending, attacking. 
So I just, I was one of the 

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faster ones like in this, in 
this in the team and squad. 

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So sometimes got some of these 
duties like you're a faster one 

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so like you're up, you're you're
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stuff and running straight out. 
So I did a bit running then and 

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then and it was like uni. 
I thought I could join the 

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running club. 
So I see the London Marathon on 

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TV. 
I quite fancy doing that. 

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And then rocked up to the stand 
and like went out for a run with

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them one time and they said oh, 
you can't just go and do the 

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London Marathon, you need to do 
the ballot and stuff like how 

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our stuff is. 
So it's like I'm a way to join 

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someone else. 
So then I never really ran at 

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all. 
And then, since then, my wee 

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brother's done some running, had
some heart problems. 

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I suppose my aim now is maybe 
just to like get back to some 

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kind of normal way of like 
fitness and being active like I 

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almost used to be. 
It's part of the recovery 

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process, I suppose from that 
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like dollies. 
I suppose I've had injuries like

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under my knee all of a sudden, 
like you go from playing 5A 

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sides and doing their cycle and 
going climbing and stuff and it 

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just goes from that to zero. 
It's like sometimes like a bit 

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mentally like, but like what do 
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So suppose that's where I'm at, 
like, so now I'm just to be part

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of the club and like get some 
friends and just get a laugh. 

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I suppose I'm a little bit 
competitive, but mainly just 

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competitive with myself. 
I'm I'm guilty of encouraging 

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you to do that. 
You mentioned your brother was 

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running a bit. 
Yeah, he's pretty fast. 

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I'm a long way off him yet. 
I think I recently ran the race 

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in Inverness, the half marathon,
so I turned up and did a good 

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shift there. 
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did enough just to shut him up a
little bit because he we've both

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entered this Manchester 
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He used tends to do ultra 
marathons like a bit like 

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yourself W Isle way. 
He used the cross in charm and 

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he did the TDs and stuff like 
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So he's running in the mountains
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marathon and I was like oh I'll 
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So we kind of ended up signing 
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coming around fast now. 
It's getting pretty scary. 

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How far away is that? 
It's like two weeks on Sunday. 

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I think 2 1/2 weeks. 2 1/2 weeks
Are you nervous? 

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Yeah, I suppose. 
I suppose a marathon is a bit of

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an event, isn't it? 
It's like, I don't know, it's 

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the one that you see on the TV. 
It always happened in big 

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cities, like so. 
So it's my first marathon. 

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I entered Edinburgh in my youth,
but I never ever ran it. 

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I hurt my knee and injured my 
knee. 

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A few operations don't do that, 
but I never ever managed that. 

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Everyone says it's rubbish 
anyway. 

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It's not the best. 
So I'm looking forward to very 

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much and all this. 
I think I'd set myself what I 

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thought was like a pretty 
ambitious target about 3:35. 

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I don't know where that number 
came from. 

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That was when I signed up. 
That was a bit of a guess. 

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I had no idea where I was going 
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going to start running. 
I wasn't like I signed up last 

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year. 
I maybe started running at the 

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end of the summer. 
Last year I had a heart 

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operation in April. 
So then I started running end of

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the summer and it was mainly 
jogging. 

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I was just jogging really until 
the end of the year. 

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My focus is was just on losing 
some weight, getting some 

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strength so I could so I could 
build it up and not get injured.

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And then I got to December and I
was like, well that box is text,

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what next? 
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the club and making these club 
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So I thought OK next year or I'm
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get all these club standards 
looking to progress. 

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Anyway, I suppose what I'm 
saying is like I was aiming for 

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like bronze, bronze, bronze and 
I was like looking at the time 

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on this, what's the bronze for a
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I was like, I really need to try
and achieve something and I was 

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like bronze. 
I need to try and go and so I 

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thought maybe 335I can't 
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was, maybe it was just over that
I was like 338 or something like

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that. 
And I was like, I'll give myself

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a three, three minute margin in 
case it goes wrong and then I'll

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get this bronze. 
It probably came from that. 

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But then anyway, since then this
year my training seems like it's

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developed a bit more. 
I feel like I'm running instead 

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of just jogging all the time, 
and since then just just not 

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active. 
I printed off a marathon 

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training plan. 
You can find train plans 

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everywhere. 
I found one that I looked. 

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I thought this looks quite 
sensible. 

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It gives you some different 
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And what do you think, Beginning
or intermediate advanced? 

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I haven't no idea, but so I 
printed off like I think. 

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I must admit most of my running 
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stop start pretty low. 
But this running plan is full of

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like intervals and stuff like 
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And I was like, I would say now 
my running's getting to the 

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stage where I can maybe do some 
of that. 

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So I suppose if I had a bit more
time before my marathon, I might

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have been able to introduce 
someone that into my training 

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that might have helped me a 
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But this is generally I'm 
feeling pretty good. 

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But because we're getting closer
to the time, putting pressure on

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myself, some people say you can 
use these running calculators on

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the computer. 
It says your time for, you know,

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putting your time at 10K or half
marathon or something like that,

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five mile, it'll give you sort 
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marathon. 
So when I type in like what I 

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got from 1/2 marathon and like 
what my wee brother said to me, 

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generally they say maybe you 
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minutes. 
That says like I could 

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potentially aim for the solver 
time, which which I did for the 

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half marathon. 
But that's a massive, like a big

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difference of. 
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Hour. 
It's scary, like there's no in 

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my head. 
I was like reality is is is 

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like, you know, I think I've got
the aim for that. 

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I've got to try, but it all 
depends how I feel on the day. 

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I think that's what it's going 
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It's really difficult to say 
like I'd have to. 

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So to achieve that it's over 
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but I need a lot to go right on 
the day and there's so much I've

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not. 
I've not really ran long runs. 

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I've not tested myself on long 
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trying some gels. 
I'm really sure if I'm a big fan

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of these gels, so. 
You've only got 2 1/2 weeks to 

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figure all this out. 
I don't think I want to run on 

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my pack, but sometimes I'm 
thinking maybe just be easier to

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run on my pack. 
I can carry some water and just 

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drink rather than try and choke 
myself like down down some water

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at a water stop. 
Do you know what's available 

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from the water stops? 
I think from what Mark I've not,

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I've not read the fine print but
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from Mark, other club member, 
he's he's done it before I think

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as well. 
I think he said it's bottled 

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water which is probably going to
be a bit easier. 

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I've tried it was cops and then 
the essence found that like 

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pretty tricky to try and 
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because you can run. 
With the ball. 

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Yeah, and I think the because 
I've not tried any of these gels

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like I had one Inverness and it 
was they tried one particular 

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brand. 
So I bought some of that to try 

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from Manchester. 
But I think it's a different, 

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it's a different one that they 
I'm not sure if they offer some 

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of these gels in Manchester. 
Yeah, every gels different. 

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Yeah, I think it's different. 
So I'm a bit wary of. 

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I know these gels are pretty 
advanced now, but like, I don't 

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know, one long time ago when I 
was playing hockey, I tried some

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of these energy drinks. 
Just, I don't know, I've also 

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got one for free somewhere. 
I tried it and I really didn't 

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like it. 
Just give you a buzz for 10 

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minutes and then it gives you a 
horrible crash. 

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I think it was the, I don't 
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maltodextrin, some kind of 
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So it's. 
A highly processed sugar. 

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So I just bought some active 
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sugar. 
Yeah, I've got some electrolyte.

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So so yeah, the one I've bought 
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that. 
I think it is just a blend. 

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Of have been multi. 
Decks and fructose and probably,

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yeah, normal. 
Yeah, fructose, Sucrose, 

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maltodextrin is usually a blend 
of really highly processed and 

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not so highly processed so that 
they act at a different speed. 

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So I went out running on Sunday,
open to the long run, but it 

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didn't really go great. 
I managed to eat something. 

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I managed to take on a few of 
those gels. 

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It seemed to go OK. 
So I'm not sure how it's going 

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to go on the day, but I'm going 
to try and take some gels on the

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day. 
But I'll probably mix it up. 

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I've got some chews, little 
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are like a hard form of the gel.
Probably try eating some of them

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and probably take some gels. 
Yeah, so two 2 1/2 weeks to go. 

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Long runs should be done by now.
You're on a taper mode. 

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What have you got to prepare 
between now and then? 

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Suppose tonight I was running 
the club time trial and I was 

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actually sitting pretty high in 
the table, so I had a chance of 

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winning it. 
I'm not really sure if we've won

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it yet, but there was a chance 
there. 

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Wait until the results come out.
So I kind of thought I'd have to

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push quite hard. 
I think they upped my I've 

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changed my handicap so and then 
I had to push to try and get 

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some points. 
So I don't know. 

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I give it a decent going. 
I always finish the run and 

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think I could go a bit a bit 
more, but I feel sometimes a bit

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attentive. 
But so anyway, that was also 

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about wasn't about winning, it 
was about boosting my confidence

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and trying to get my confidence 
back. 

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I'm not sure have been running 
too well since Inverness. 

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I think I'm going to look back 
and see what running I was doing

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before Inverness because I seem 
to, I seem to be pretty good. 

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I don't know, I seem to be in 
pretty good shape. 

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I seem to do a good shift and I 
don't know if it was just 

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because it was a bosom race day 
and I went out there just to 

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enjoy myself and I didn't have 
any pressure. 

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So I suppose I'm just going to 
look back and see, see what 

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happened then. 
I think very much. 

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I just want to now. 
I think I've just before I was 

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like I did quite a lot of trails
run up the woods. 

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I really just want to be away 
from the traffic like. 

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But now I suppose because I do 
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like one of the best runs, it 
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I just went and ran them through
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I think he actually was telling 
me dad, I need to go home now. 

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I'm totally spent. 
So it's like a really good 

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strength session. 
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the read up to Inverness. 
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Tuesday, I can't remember, but 
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quite a lot of decent training. 
I'm in quite a good shape Now 

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I'm concentrating on tarmac and 
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tarmac. 
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try and dial into race pace. 
I feel like that's what I should

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be doing. 
I'm maybe hearing some of this 

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from my brother as well, but 
like in reality, I don't run 

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that fast when I'm by myself 
over the dog, so I don't know if

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I'm really going to get a chance
to do that. 

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You say you're dialing into race
pace. 

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How? 
What do you how do you know what

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race pace is? 
Mostly. 

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Mostly I suppose that that's a 
good question. 

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From 1/2 marathon I told my 
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time trial pace and time. 
Trails 5 miles 5. 

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Miles, he just said, Oh, well, 
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It so you're saying you're on 
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going to run the same speed at 
half marathon. 

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So you're just going to run the 
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No. 
Like when I I don't know how 

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many years ago now, before I had
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to the gym. 
I do quite a little spin. 

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I used to quite like going to 
the spin class. 

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But I suppose Spin's got nothing
to do with running. 

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monitor. 
I was spinning with a heart rate

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monitor. 
So it's just it's different to 

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running. 
But I suppose what you learn is 

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like I I wear the Garmin thing 
on my wrist and it does give me 

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my heart rate, but I don't 
really look at it. 

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But I've got the experience of 
being like back at that time I 

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would have an idea of what 
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on the fitness and the age it 
was and stuff, the heart rate 

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and that of experience. 
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different sort of heart rate 
zones from before. 

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I suppose like when I say time 
travel pace, I'm running 

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probably a comfortable threshold
like so I'm breathing hard. 

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I could probably talk if 
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me, but I wouldn't really want 
to and then keep going at that. 

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That is obviously fine for a 
shorter distance. 

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Like I know I probably could 
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get a better part on time. 
I need to forget about that at 

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the minute. 
But so for my time trial, I was 

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running seven just over 7 minute
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half marathon. 
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maybe I was seeing some 
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don't know, this must have just 
been a bit of buzzing day and be

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running with other people, not 
just by yourself. 

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You can just like use some 
tactics. 

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I feel all right, what pace am I
going at? 

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And like, I don't really ever 
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pace. 
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race I was like, I need to check
my pace. 

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So I was like, yeah, that seems 
all right, seems to be going 

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pretty fast. 
Everyone says I don't quite too 

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fast, but I feel comfortable. 
So keep going at this. 

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And then kind of like that time 
I just locked on to a couple of 

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people running about the same 
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I'll just hang on to these guys.
So in the marathon, I'll try and

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do somewhere. 
It's like find a comfortable 

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pace, see if I can. 
But looking at the calculator at

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that time I was running that 7 
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I reckon I need to be doing 720.
I think that's, I think it's 

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beyond me. 
It's like maybe I could do that 

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for 15 miles and then I don't 
know what's going to happen 

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after that, like. 
Going back to your. 

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Maybe screaming. 
Going back to your your prep for

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the race, how are you getting 
there? 

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Where are you? 
Where are you sleeping? 

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How are you getting home? 
I thought it would be easy on 

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myself and fly, but because I've
got like young family at home, 

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there's always loads of stuff to
think about, like and pressure 

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at work and family and stuff. 
Are you just going to calm or 

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he's not coming and that's went 
on for ages, so difficult. 

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Last minute my wee brother's 
booked an apartment for the 

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Saturday and the Sunday, so the 
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So we're staying over night 
before and staying over the day 

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after and we're reasonably close
to the start so so I should so 

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just an apartment so I'll take. 
I'll take my Muesli and I'll 

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have that in the morning. 
So I'll try and take my 

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previous, like, I'll try like I 
ran a race with my brother one 

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time before and he was like, oh,
do you want some porridge for 

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breakfast? 
I just crashed at his house and 

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I was like, Oh yeah, sweet, I 
like porridge. 

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But it didn't go down well for 
the race. 

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It was like, it's not my racing 
food, it wouldn't be my first 

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choice. 
So I think I learnt a lesson. 

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It's like just do everything 
your own way so you know, I'll 

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figure out what I'm going to 
wear on race day. 

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I'll probably bake some Muesli 
and stuff or whatever. 

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I don't know, some banana and 
honey or something. 

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Maybe get some sugar in and then
try and get a decent night's 

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sleep. 
Not used to running in the 

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morning so well, I run in the 
morning with the dog, but just 

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take him out just to make him 
happy. 

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But like, I might try. 
I might try a couple of ones. 

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Just get up, eat some breakfast 
at 7:00 in the morning, go 

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running at half nine or 
something. 

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I'm not sure when. 
What time does it start at? 

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I think it starts in a couple of
different waves and I think Mark

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says we're in the second wave. 
I've glanced at the paper and I 

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think it might start. 
I said 940, maybe 930 starts, 

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but might be in the second wave,
which maybe 10 minutes later. 

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So something like that. 
But probably means I need to get

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up quite early, eat some 
breakfast and then I know, chill

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out, drink some coffee. 
My wee brothers says he's going 

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to stop, stop with the coffee, 
the caffeine for a couple of 

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weeks so that when he has a 
coffee, coffee or the caffeine, 

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whatever in the gels, then it 
actually works on day. 

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So probably I might try it. 
I might try that for a few days.

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It works in theory, as long as 
you're I'm not too addicted to 

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coffee, that you have the side 
effects of withdrawal symptoms. 

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I've never been a big coffee 
drinker, but like, I don't know,

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my wife bought me some kind of 
coffee grinder, so, you know, 

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grind some beans in the morning 
sometime from time to time. 

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So I think very much was just 
try and I just try and stay calm

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like, and then just try and make
the right decisions. 

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Like, I don't know, just a lot 
of distractions. 

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Like, you know, my wee brother, 
he'd be doing his thing and be 

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like, oh, should I be doing that
or something? 

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Just like, OK, he can wear 
whatever he wants. 

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He's doing a different race than
me because. 

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Yeah, well, you're you're 
running your own race, so that's

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all that matters. 
But yeah, it's like, so yeah, 

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I'll just try And so yeah, we're
going down. 

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I'll drive down to my brother's 
house. 

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Doesn't know when probably. 
I think I'm I'm probably just 

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going to crash in the back of 
his car on the way down from 

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his. 
He lives in 5 SA couple of hours

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from me down to his bed and then
he'll him and his mate will 

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probably drive his car back and 
forward to Manchester. 

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So I think it's an easy shift 
for me. 

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I'll just like Crash. 
You can maybe listen to this. 

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I'll maybe crash in the back of 
his car and then I think I'll 

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probably try and use that time 
to psych myself up. 

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Like in some ways like, I don't 
know, maybe just like how you 

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see, you know, like before the 
Formula One race, the drivers 

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are sitting in the car and 
they're just like visualising, 

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practicing. 
They're just in their head, just

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trying to focus on what they're 
doing. 

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So probably just I'll take that 
time in the back of the car, 

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just trying to think about I 
don't know anything, just empty 

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my head and just think about 
like what's likely to happen on 

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the day or or what happens if 
this happens or not. 

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Like just probably try and 
mentally prepare myself probably

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before my time trial today is 
like just thinking about when 

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I'm supposed to be working 
during the day. 

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I was just thinking like I need 
to eat and just, I don't know, 

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try and open myself up. 
Going off on a tangent earlier 

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on, you mentioned that you had a
heart condition. 

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Don't mind talking about it. 
I've I've not said on the 

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channel before but I've got a 
heart condition myself, which 

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I'll go in another day. 
I used to be the Mike in the 

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club that had a heart condition 
and then you come along, you 

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want, you want to talk about it 
Well. 

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I just, yeah, I've actually 
blacked out wrong before. 

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Like it landed on my teeth. 
I wasn't running fast. 

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I was just that I had. 
I was late from work and I was 

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just kind of running back to the
car. 

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Were they running kind of just 
like jogging movie? 

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Yeah. 
I've had some irregular 

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heartbeat issues, so my 
heartbeat has probably gone too 

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fast. 
Wasn't really efficient pumping 

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the blood. 
That means your brain doesn't 

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get enough oxygen or whatever. 
The blood flow basically blacked

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out. 
I hit the pavement with my face,

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but I didn't feel it got a 
little crack in my tooth. 

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So kind of hard setbacks like 
end up in an ambulance and the 

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time was quite confusing. 
That was definitely a bit of a 

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symptom like and then obviously 
it was like ended up in the 

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horse well and it kind of went 
on from there at some a couple 

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of zaps trying to get it back to
normal, do a reset for that few 

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times but a couple of 
operations, keyhole surgery 

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what? 
Kind of operations. 

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Yeah. 
Basically they go in do 

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ablation. 
So basically go in and try and 

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map the circuits in your heart 
and the electrical kind of 

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signals you figure out. 
Obviously the signals are like, 

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OK, they're kind of find a route
that maybe they're not meant to 

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take and then the base, they go 
and disrupt that route by not a 

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little bag burn or freezer or 
whatever. 

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So I had that done a couple of 
times. 

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It kind of works for me a little
bit, but then didn't resolve my 

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problems. 
So I actually went out trying to

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go running with my wee brother 
one time, Houston Hill reps And 

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I was like, OK, I'll try and do 
that running with you. 

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But like bash on, we're Hill 
reps I'll just be taking it 

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easy. 
I kind of ran up the hill really

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easy and I was like, Nah, I'm 
not feeling right. 

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Kind of all went back, back to 
the start again, back to see the

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consultant again. 
And to be fair, like I've had 

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really good treatment from the 
NHS and, you know, you hear 

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stories about waiting times and 
stuff and I think I've not had 

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to wait too long in terms of, 
you know, a lot of the wait 

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years and years for any 
treatment or anything like that.

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It's totally unreasonable, I 
think. 

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So I think I had a different 
procedure this time and so far 

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I've only had one little wobble,
which is a really, really hot 

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bath. 
So I think it's probably not a 

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good idea for me. 
Your body's probably working 

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hard to try and kind of cool you
get your body temperature back 

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to normal does. 
That make you think you 

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shouldn't run in hot conditions 
or you not thought about? 

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It not thought about that, I 
think. 

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I think obviously like I've got 
the feel for it. 

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Probably if things are not 
right, I'll probably just wind 

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it back and try and figure out 
what my situation is like. 

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When I had that wee wobble 
before, I wasn't really too sure

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what was going on and it was the
time trial was on. 

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So I came along and I was like, 
yeah, not very sure. 

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I'm just going to take it easy 
tonight. 

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And I ran the time trial. 
I think it was like in the 

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middle of Christmas, New Year 
sort of time. 

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I can't remember. 
The weather was probably awful. 

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It was poorly attended. 
I ran it what I thought was 

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marathon pace, which to me, 
marathon pace just meant really 

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comfortable. 
And then I just thought, like, 

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see how it'll go. 
I might come back, I might make 

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it to the end and then I think I
actually scored some points, but

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I think it was due to the 
attendance. 

444
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,800
So I think it was quite as 
that's maybe what I wanted for 

445
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200
me, I should have if I'd pushed 
better. 

446
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,960
So yeah so after that they kind 
of put me back on some 

447
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,040
medication. 
So that's that's the the doctors

448
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000
that take kind of safety first 
approach and I've been hassling 

449
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,120
them. 
I don't know if I really need to

450
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,040
be on this medication anymore. 
So it's kind of like, you know, 

451
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,080
I don't know how that's affected
my performances. 

452
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:25,360
Like, I think the medication was
maybe to keep my heart rate from

453
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:29,240
going too high, so I don't know 
if that's held me back a little.

454
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,880
Bit like a beta blocker or 
something. 

455
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Yeah, it's on. 
It's on a very low dose. 

456
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,200
So it probably didn't make a 
big, big difference, but so it's

457
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,680
kind of hard for me to judge 
like where how my progress has 

458
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,360
been with the running like. 
So I came off, I came off the 

459
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,320
beta blocker, I think it must 
have been before Inverness and 

460
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,000
then obviously it did really 
well Inverness. 

461
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,320
So I don't know, it's maybe a 
couple of weeks before. 

462
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,600
I don't know if the performance 
difference is because coming off

463
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,960
the beta blocker has maybe given
me an extra gear. 

464
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Let's just say I didn't have 
before. 

465
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320
It's like NHS prescribed 
performance enhancing drugs, is 

466
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320
it? 
So, well, performance enhancing.

467
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,680
So like at the same time I was 
on the blood thinner and I just 

468
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,280
got a message I missed the call 
today from the doctor. 

469
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680
I've been hassling them saying I
don't think I need to be on the 

470
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
blood thinner. 
So I just got a message saying I

471
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680
can stop taking that. 
So I don't know if that. 

472
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,200
I don't know if the blood 
thinner, if it makes it easier 

473
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680
to pump blood around my body, 
does that, does that actually 

474
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360
enhance performance or or does 
it? 

475
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,840
If the blood's more watery, does
it, does it not carry the same? 

476
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,120
I don't know, like I'm not a 
doctor, I've not studied it, no.

477
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440
And before we go. 
Any further, anything that we're

478
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880
seeing here is our own personal 
experiences. 

479
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,520
Do not take this as medical 
advice. 

480
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Go and see your GP. 
The GPS refer it to the 

481
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760
hospital. 
The It's a bad day when you've 

482
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:10,920
got a cardiologist, but I do 
have a cardiologist, so. 

483
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,600
So I'm coming off the blood 
thinner. 

484
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,800
That's the change. 
I was kind of hope I was 

485
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,320
hassling the doctor maybe a 
month ago because I thought, I 

486
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,040
want to, I want to come off this
now and then work up to marathon

487
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,480
because I knew this marathon was
coming. 

488
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,440
I don't really want to come off 
it. 

489
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,520
And then this week and not know 
what's happening in two weeks 

490
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,920
time, whatever. 
So it's kind of that's the 

491
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,400
situation I'm in now. 
So I don't know what that really

492
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,080
means. 
Does that mean that all of a 

493
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,840
sudden the pace I want to run at
is going to be more difficult 

494
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080
for me and that's the wrong 
decision. 

495
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040
I think I'm just going to have 
to go feel again when I finish a

496
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:05,000
run and say I can go faster. 
It's kind of me. 

497
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880
There's two things. 
It's like that means I'm not 

498
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600
going hard enough. 
That's me putting pressure on 

499
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,680
myself and being ambitious. 
I like, I like people that are 

500
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,960
ambitious. 
Like, Oh, no, I like ridiculous 

501
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:26,440
as you're just, you know, not 
lazy, but but like, it gives me 

502
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200
a bit of a goal to like, work 
towards. 

503
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640
It's like, all right, yeah, OK. 
I did quite well today. 

504
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Everything that went well, that 
went well. 

505
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960
But I know I can go faster 
because of this, this and this. 

506
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,200
So you get a bit experience and 
you identify like, where I can 

507
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,200
maybe like, I suppose what I was
trying to say is I just want to 

508
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,960
do an honest race on the 
marathon and I want to get to 

509
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,000
the end and feel like a bit of 
satisfaction. 

510
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Yeah, did a good race. 
Ideally, you want to get to the 

511
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,880
end. 
Think I couldn't. 

512
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,880
I couldn't have given that much 
more. 

513
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Give it a good shout, come away 
really happy, that's all. 

514
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,960
I don't think the time is really
going to make any difference to 

515
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,360
me. 
I mean nice to take that box and

516
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,960
say I achieved whatever club 
standard is, but doesn't really 

517
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,320
mean I'm not going to win the 
marathon. 

518
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280
No, it is for. 
It's like. 

519
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Winning is you being happy with 
what you've done. 

520
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Like, I'm an old man, I'm an old
man and stuff. 

521
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Yeah, I'm probably going to want
to try and take some pressure 

522
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,760
off myself and just go out and 
enjoy it on the day. 

523
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Like I'm the one high five and 
all the Marshalls, especially 

524
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
the old wifeys. 
So does any old wifeys 

525
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160
marshalling from Manchester I'll
be the one. 

526
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:50,000
Like wanting to give you a high 
5 coming past, which is just my 

527
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
way of saying thank you to the 
Marshalls, but at the same time 

528
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,600
just for me trying to get engage
myself, get a bit of a buzz 

529
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,760
going just to keep my keep my 
motivation up good. 

530
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,000
Well, I think it's getting late.
We've both been at a running 

531
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
club tonight, so I think we're 
going to call it there. 

532
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,600
But what I want to do is catch 
up with you again after the 

533
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,240
marathon to see how things went,
if that's OK with you. 

534
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Yeah, I think. 
I think that the idea is because

535
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,400
I'm a total novice for the 
marathon now, but looking past 

536
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,760
the marathon, I've signed up to 
another race, Devil of the 

537
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Highlands. 
He went from time trial tonight.

538
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,400
Half Marathon, Marathon and then
Devil Highlands is 40. 3 Miles 

539
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
We'll come and speak to you 
after the marathon and let you 

540
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,480
know how it went. 
Yeah, that's good luck. 

541
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,480
And from all of our hundreds of 
viewers, good luck. 

542
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,400
And. 
We'll see yous next time.

