1 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,000 Hello and welcome to a very special episode of Run Till 2 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,160 You're Done. If you're listening to this, you 3 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,200 won't actually see that Mike and I are sitting next to each other 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,760 in person. We can actually see and touch 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,880 each other. That is so really weird. 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,600 And yeah, that should probably get emptied out, but yeah, 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,120 that's what happens when we're recording the live episode. 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,440 We've also got a cat as well that's joining us for a little 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,040 bit, I think. So welcome to Glasgow Mike, 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,080 because we are recording in my house and Mike has drove up from 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,160 where? Sherwood Pines near Nottingham. 12 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,560 And he's taking a little break on his way back up to where he 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,080 lives in the north of Scotland. So it just made sense for us to 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,720 record this episode tonight. So how are you feeling? 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:17,880 I am pretty exhausted. It's I don't even know what day 16 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,840 it is. I think it's Monday. 17 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,920 I've had about say 3 hours sleep since Friday. 18 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,960 OK. So like Ross in his previous 19 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:34,520 episodes, I think they've got a thing about sleep deprivation. 20 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,760 And for those with most listeners will know what you've 21 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,680 just done, but for those who are tuning them for the first time, 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,880 what race have you just done and how does it work? 23 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:56,520 I was doing a backyard Oprah down in Sherwood Pines. 24 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Russell Bock. Zoning out a bit, bit sleep 25 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,880 deprived. Yeah, it it was my intentions 26 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:21,720 were to get on the GB team. I think 5055 yards would have 27 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,240 done that. I went into it thinking I wasn't 28 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,800 fussed about winning the race. If that happened, that's a 29 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,040 byproduct. No intentions of stopping, but 30 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,280 55 yards, that's what I wanted to get to. 31 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Anything else that happened after that, then good and. 32 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,240 For those that don't know, what is the concept of a backyard? 33 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,520 You say you've done yards. How far is a yard? 34 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,000 How long have you got to do it? That's. 35 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Probably true. We've talked about backyards on 36 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,840 previous episodes, but what is the backyard? 37 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:03,720 Backyard Ultra is a last one standing event, but it's a 38 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:10,360 particular you, you get other last one standings that they're 39 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,000 not as interesting. There's various different the 40 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:22,560 the official Backyard Ultra is you run 4.167 miles on the hour 41 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,280 every hour until there's nobody left. 42 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,520 And in previous episodes, as you say, you mentioned we had James 43 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Stewart on as a previous guest and you happened to drop in that 44 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,760 you were aiming for 80 yards. And did you take enough food 45 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,720 down to accommodate those 80? Yards I had enough food for. 46 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:51,880 I think my plan was 82 and there was a reason why it was 82. 47 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,120 I can't think right now what it is. 48 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:04,000 There definitely was. Oh, 82 was at one point what was 49 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,760 required to get to Biggs last time round. 50 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,720 OK. So you went down. 51 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,240 What time did the race start and what is the logistics about 52 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 getting down there? How long did you have beforehand 53 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,560 and talk us through that? So I left home on Thursday 54 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:32,560 night, the drove to Dundee, stayed in the hotel on Thursday 55 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,320 night and then drove the rest of the way down to Sherwood Pines, 56 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:44,360 which was 430 miles. Got there. 57 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,840 We were allowed to check in at 5:00 on the Friday. 58 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,120 So we got there, managed to get one of the best spots. 59 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,640 I, I couldn't have got a better spot because everybody's got to 60 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,720 be on the start line every hour. You set a tent up hopefully as 61 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,720 close to the start line as possible. 62 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,920 And my one was on the corral. The corral's where the, the 63 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,320 space that you need to be in at the start. 64 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,440 If you're not in that corral, you're out of the race. 65 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,520 So if you happen to have went to the toilet and you didn't get 66 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,120 out the time, then that's your own fault. 67 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,400 If you didn't get out of your chair, again, it's your own 68 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 fault. There's zero tolerance. 69 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,800 That is pretty neat to be. You're not allowed any 70 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,080 assistance to be in that corral. They can help you until the the 71 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,640 point of being in there and that's it. 72 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:48,720 There have been cases of well, I, I almost had a near miss in 73 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,160 the last race that I did. We were sitting chatting, 74 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,800 meeting the crew. Thank you Rebecca. 75 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:07,200 And we heard over the, the TANI 15 seconds to go and I was about 76 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,640 20-30 metres away. That was the fastest I moved all 77 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,720 race. I had to be in that Corel, 78 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,520 otherwise it was race over. I did a long jump into Corel. 79 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,640 You've got a certain amount of time you have to be moving 80 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,200 forward in the corral when the the bell goes on the arrow to 81 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,840 show that you're making progress. 82 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,360 If you're you've got to be in the corral moving. 83 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,840 If you're not moving, then it's assumed that you're not going. 84 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:49,360 So you can't like if you go into the corral, but you've if you're 85 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,120 stocking your jacket on and stuff, that's OK, but you have 86 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,360 to take that with you. If you are swapping your shoes, 87 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,280 you're only allowed the shoes that you're taking with you 88 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,040 there. So if you've got, if you're 89 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,840 taking one pair of shoes off, put another pair of shoes on, 90 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,920 you've still got to take the other ones with you because 91 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,400 otherwise it counts as littering basically because you've left 92 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:20,480 something on the corpse. And bonus, during one of the 93 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,360 laps, it must have been about quite late on the race. 94 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,040 I want to tell you where I found a pound on the the course. 95 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,600 So little victories, somebody dropped that pound. 96 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Whether it was, I don't think it was deliberate because nobody's 97 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,520 throwing pounds around, but they could have got this qualified 98 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,880 for a littering on the course. Yeah, but yeah, nobody's. 99 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,240 It's a shame it wasn't a penny and we might have had met a lot, 100 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,280 but we will come to that later on in the episode. 101 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,320 So the Friday night, where did you stay at the site or did you 102 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,160 sleep at a hotel? What happened on the Friday 103 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,200 night and did you get a good feet and sleep before? 104 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Some people went, got there on the Friday, put up their tent 105 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:10,320 like I did, and then they went and stayed in a hotel or Airbnb 106 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,480 or wherever nearby. I've got a camper van. 107 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,160 So on the site I stayed in the van and I was perfectly OK in 108 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,040 that. I wouldn't say slept the whole 109 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,520 time, but I was in bed for over 10 hours. 110 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Yeah. So I was fully rested, fully 111 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:37,080 ready to go, I think half seven the next morning. 112 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,600 I don't lie in because I'm normally up for that. 113 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:48,120 So I got half seven, had something to eat and was fully 114 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,520 rested, ready to go. And your crew was already there 115 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,440 waiting for you because they posted a very flattering photo 116 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,640 of you on the start line in your jammies. 117 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Yes, probably. I don't know if you've seen that 118 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,560 yet. I don't think I have. 119 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 I just for those, for those of you that don't know that haven't 120 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,200 been following, former guest Ross Beveridge went down to 121 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,320 Crewe for Mike this year. And one of the first photos that 122 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:21,000 Ross posted was Mike carrying something in his pajamas. 123 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,720 And I messaged him saying, is that Mike in pajamas? 124 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,600 He's like, yes, he's got changed since though. 125 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,440 And I'm like, good. Because I thought you were 126 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 making a bold statement on the start line. 127 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,000 You know, I know you're relaxed, but that's my page. 128 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Just a bit too relaxed. There some some of the things 129 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,960 that was happening in the race. They had certain laps, had 130 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:53,720 certain themes and the first night lap, call it lap loop yard 131 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,440 Rep, however you want to call it. 132 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,480 Yeah, officially it's a yard because the original race was in 133 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Lazarus Lake's backyard. But all those names, I don't 134 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,120 care. If you've got something that you 135 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 want to call it, you've sent it to me. 136 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,240 I don't care. It's it's all the same thing. 137 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Some people might have issues with it, but it doesn't matter. 138 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,440 I can't remember what I was saying there. 139 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,160 And This is why this is going to call that no, because you're 140 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,440 that tired. No, please continue. 141 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,640 What was I saying? So start like what time did the 142 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,040 what time did the race start? And you were saying about 143 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040 different themes as well. So I would imagine one of the 144 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:47,600 themes was tutus on Yard 22. Yes, the first night in first 145 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,640 yard in the dark was pajamas. Ah. 146 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,640 OK. That's not, These are unofficial 147 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,520 things started in America with the Tutu for Yard 22. 148 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Eleanor Gallon had one of the competitors had talked to the 149 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,320 race director for this and she had came up with a list of 150 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:16,080 things to do for this race. And I think it was as a backyard 151 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,840 author catalog in Australia. And they do, I can't remember 152 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,080 what they call it, but it's the the fragrant 4th. 153 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,040 That's what it is. So you're supposed to go into 154 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:33,240 the 4th yard fragrant, whether that means you stink or whether 155 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,400 you smell nice, that's open to interpretation. 156 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 There was 1 yard that was flat caps. 157 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Yeah. But the way that I see it, and 158 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,320 there have been times, should I buy a Tutu? 159 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Because that seems to be the big thing, the the yard way to use 160 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 the Tutu. But the way that I see it is 161 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,480 anything like that is wasted energy. 162 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,480 You've got to think about it. And if I don't have to think 163 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,760 about it, that's one calorie of energy that I don't have to 164 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,040 think about it, so I can concentrate on racing instead. 165 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,120 So if I ever do a backyard ultra with you and when I say that 166 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,320 I'll be your crew who will be wedding a tour too, because I'll 167 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 be thinking about it and I'll put it on you. 168 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,400 So that's that's fine. And the flat cap. 169 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,040 I love that because I've seen Alice Town and another former 170 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,280 guest. She wore her traffic coat and so 171 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,320 anything far from from flat is what Alice chose. 172 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,320 But the people seem to get into the themes of the like of the 173 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,480 race. You know like each yard and that 174 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 is a the majority partake and that. 175 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,120 I wouldn't say it's a majority, but this race in particular, 176 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,080 there's quite a few. I think it's 250 people on the 177 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,320 start list and 233, I'm going to say actually started. 178 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,720 So it had a higher number than a normal previous races that I've 179 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,280 done. Yeah. 180 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,680 So there was a higher number of people taking part and. 181 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Well, there are quite a lot of people like faces that either 182 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,480 recognise from the backyard scene or. 183 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,640 Yes. Just from races. 184 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,720 What Eric wanted to do for this was he, he wanted the race to be 185 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,680 a popular race. He, he knew it was going to be 186 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,440 Eric's the race director of Russellburg Running. 187 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:41,480 He wanted to attract the the, the best field, particularly 188 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:47,600 from the UK, to try and get the UK team as best as possible. 189 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Yeah, he's taken over this cycle of being the team manager for 190 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,880 the UK and he he was just trying to get it. 191 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,720 It was various reasons 1 He wanted his race to be the best. 192 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:12,880 He wanted the UK team to be the best and he wanted it to be if 193 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,800 these were the people that were going to be in the team, he 194 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 wanted it to be a team bonding exercise. 195 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:24,120 He wanted the people that were going to go far to all know each 196 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,840 other so. And do you feel he created that? 197 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Yeah, I think so. We'll get on to it later. 198 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:41,200 But I I certainly talk to a lot more people, even people that 199 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,440 were in the team coming up for two years ago. 200 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,200 I know them better from this race than I had in like the 201 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,760 previous World Team Championship. 202 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,080 And I think that's good that Eric has taken over because the 203 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,880 vibe, I've not actually been down to any of the events, but 204 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,440 even just seeing, hearing from yourself and looking at it on 205 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,840 the social media, even the fact that he does these race places 206 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,680 that you can donate money to for people that don't have the money 207 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,120 for, let's face it, we say it's a free spot. 208 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,120 And really as far from it, it just gives you an idea of the 209 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,560 vibe and you know, the community that turns up to these races and 210 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,600 it does the appeal. It is there for me to go down 211 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,440 and maybe do. They don't just do backyards, do 212 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,160 they? They do marathons and they do 213 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,880 half marathons as well. They they've got a stupid amount 214 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,320 of races there. It's basically every two weeks 215 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,800 they've got a different race on. Yeah. 216 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,480 So if you're not familiar with Russell Bock running, you can 217 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,280 find them on social media and check them out because they seem 218 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,000 a really good team. And each year I've followed them 219 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,040 the last couple of years since I started following yourself and 220 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,400 getting to know you, watching them grow, like they're just 221 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,520 getting bigger and bigger. And they seem to be doing so 222 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,000 well. Yeah, of it all. 223 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Although Eric was attracting the the best in the UK to be in this 224 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,640 race, there was 200 and I'm going to say 233 people. 225 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 It was open to everybody. You wanted everybody to be 226 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,320 involved. It is a great event. 227 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 His company is a great company to be involved in. 228 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,240 And the fact as well that he's got Twitch and the young ones 229 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 will know that. So I'm not as familiar about it, 230 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 but the fact that he does the live streams as well. 231 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,920 We've got Time and Monkey as well. 232 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,120 That's where I was keeping an eye on you all when I wasn't 233 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,000 pestering Ross for updates throughout the weekend. 234 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 But we'll talk about the Saturday 1st. 235 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,240 How, How was the weather for you on the Saturday and going into 236 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,320 the Saturday night? How What conditions for you all? 237 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,640 The well before we went down, I talked to Eric. 238 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Well, cast your mind back. Was it September last year, hard 239 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,079 recall. I went down to do Eric's other 240 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,400 or Russell box, other backyard. There's a new one for last year. 241 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,680 It was hard recall and we got to 29 yards and the National Trust 242 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,359 had decided, well decided there and then. 243 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,640 It wasn't a spur of the moment thing. 244 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,080 There was a weather warning out for a named storm. 245 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,960 The winds were going to be over 43 mile an hour and they've got 246 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,800 policy, it's a nationwide policy. 247 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,560 It wasn't particular for that site that if the winds get over 248 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,800 43 mile an hour, the site closes and you must evacuate. 249 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,960 So we got to 29 yards and we got told at 40 yards we're 250 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:54,320 evacuating the site. OK, so back then I there, there 251 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:01,680 was no point in me continuing because for UK qualification it 252 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,120 it was going to need to be a lot higher than what we were going 253 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:09,680 to be allowed to continue to. So whether this time around 254 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,560 there wasn't a named storm, all the forecasts were saying about 255 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,720 10 to 15 mile an hour for the whole however long the race 256 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,960 lasts, apart from if you Scroll down the page, it had the gust 257 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,760 warning. Where I stay, we don't bother 258 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,360 looking at the wind forecast. We look at the gust forecast 259 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:36,960 because that's what we get. And the gust forecast was for 39 260 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:43,400 mile an hour, right? OK, on the Sunday afternoon and 261 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,720 people on Facebook were going, oh, it's only saying 15 mile an 262 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,120 hour. It's like, yes, that's on the 263 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:59,600 Saturday we're talking about deep into the race and it's not 264 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,680 the the site owners this time around it was forced to 265 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Commission, not National Trust, but they've got similar policy 266 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,120 and they they have to make the decision in advance. 267 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,920 But it was OK. It was 39 mile an hour that was 268 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,440 going to be below. Hopefully they're exaggerating 269 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,440 it because I think now that we started getting a lot more named 270 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,920 storms. Thank you, climate change 271 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:37,640 deniers. I think my office are on the 272 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,360 side of caution. They, they don't, they, they 273 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:47,520 don't take any chances if they're going to, if there's any 274 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,640 chance of anybody getting injured, they will close the 275 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,280 site. Yeah. 276 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,000 So on the Saturday you checked all that and I when looking on 277 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,160 social media, the weather looked quite nice actually. 278 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Like was it cold? So is it. 279 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,280 It looked sunny. It was sunny, there was a couple 280 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,920 of bands of rain but nothing. I think I started off in a a 281 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,520 windbreaker paper thin thing. I think I did a couple of laps 282 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,120 and just a T-shirt I think once I put on. 283 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,840 A waterproof. It was the thinnest waterproof 284 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:28,080 I've got and it was more a precaution rather than a 285 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 necessity. And did you have your bucket 286 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,080 hat? I think it was in the bag but I 287 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,680 didn't wear the whole brace. Oh, because I know Ian, Ian 288 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Bethune, he wore his because that's what he is starting to 289 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,480 get known for, is this famous bucket hat. 290 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Especially after Barclay now. So with crew as well. 291 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,280 We've already mentioned Ross. Ross wasn't your only crew, so 292 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,800 let's talk about them as well. Who else did you have? 293 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:06,640 I had I had asked Rebecca who had previously crewed for me, 294 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:13,480 but she was going to be in Madeira doing a recce for a race 295 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,200 student later on in the year, so she couldn't make it. 296 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,560 So I put a a post on Facebook saying is there anybody local 297 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,200 wants to do it? Previous to that I'd asked Ross 298 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:36,720 I'd chew for him and I said I called him the favour and he 299 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,160 said he would love to come down. OK. 300 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,680 I don't want him. It was going to be a 5 hour 301 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,120 drive for him. I don't want to put that 302 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,640 pressure on him. 5 hour each way yeah. 303 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,720 And I didn't want him to have to do it the whole time by himself. 304 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,720 So I put a post on social media saying is there anybody local 305 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,680 wants the crew? And the the post was flooded 306 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,880 straight away. I actually took the post down so 307 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,440 that it would stop people replying to it because I didn't 308 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,760 I didn't feel comfortable saying no to people. 309 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:19,160 But the people that did get in there were Rich Transwick, who 310 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:25,880 I've previously known from racist marked being a racist. 311 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,760 I didn't know him that well, but he's been involved in them ages 312 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,720 ago. And as it turns out, I had a 313 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,640 sneaking suspicion in the after the World teams last year, there 314 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,720 was somebody that I I was staying in the tent and it was 315 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,360 freezing cold. It was shivering because I just 316 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,440 been running. Somebody that gave me a sleeping 317 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,840 bag. Turns out it was rich. 318 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Yeah. So all these little things come 319 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,160 together. And then somebody who I've known 320 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:03,240 for I I I first met him on the first run that I ever did on the 321 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,000 West Island way. Ian Minty and his wife, Julia, 322 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,800 They, they stayed local, ish. So they got to come along. 323 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:20,360 So I left it in Rich's capable hands of making up a timetable. 324 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:25,600 It's going to be him and Ross. And then Ian said just fill me 325 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,040 in when whenever you need me, I'll be there to support give 326 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,560 you guys a break. So it's basically Rich and Ross 327 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:42,160 for the Saturday, Sunday. And then Minty had the 328 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,680 unfortunate a graveyard shift starting at midnight until 6:00 329 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,800 in the morning, and then he was going to go and do a full base 330 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,200 work after that. But the way that the car parks 331 00:23:54,200 --> 00:24:01,160 worked, it was easier for him to turn up at 6:00, I think it was. 332 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,360 So he was able to get into the event car park, which was free, 333 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,360 as opposed to the Fercher Commission car park that was 334 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,480 something like 11 lbs for four hours. 335 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:18,680 So he did a He had planned to do about a 12 hour shift which gave 336 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,760 people tight sleep. And did they have everything 337 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,040 ready for you at the end of each yard? 338 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,240 And did you tell them what you would want before you left for 339 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,640 the next one? I think I can't even remember 340 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,600 when this list started and it has adapted. 341 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,520 I've got a list every hour's worth of food that I want ready 342 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,920 for when I come in and I'm going to eat it before the next yard 343 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,120 starts. And the plan was up to 82 hours, 344 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,920 I think it was, so they knew what I wanted. 345 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,320 And I've also got a list of demands, but not really the 346 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,080 helpful things for them. Like if it gets a certain point, 347 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,040 I might not like this thing anymore. 348 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,160 You get fed up of things. I had ambitions that I was going 349 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,600 to eat. I was actually surprised myself. 350 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,560 I had it down every 3 or 4 hours and it was just got to the 351 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,360 point. So I'm fed up with this now. 352 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,560 I'm not having it. So we changed it to we swapped 353 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,920 things around. So yeah, it happens. 354 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,560 But they they knew that I was adaptable to it. 355 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,440 And how do you manage to fit it in? 356 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Like I would imagine because you can or can you predict when 357 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520 you're going to need the loo and things like that? 358 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Like have you got a rough idea of Oh well I'll go X number of 359 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,320 yards as likely I'll need a pea or other at this point? 360 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,840 No, you might be able to predict that, but I made sure that I 361 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,240 went for a #2 before the race. Yeah, and. 362 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,680 As we all do. Yeah. 363 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,680 And then I think the first time I needed it was probably about 364 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,320 10 hours in and. Was that in your like, do you 365 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080 accommodate for that? Like, because obviously all of 366 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,600 that impacts on your time. So if you feel as though you do 367 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,160 need a toilet break, will you run that yard faster so you've 368 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,360 got a bit of time extra at the other side? 369 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600 No, no reason for that. Well, I don't have. 370 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,400 I don't accommodate for it. I just know when we're all 371 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,160 adults and we know when we need to go to the toilet. 372 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,800 And if you need to go, sometimes you need to go. 373 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Yeah, I didn't have it on the plan. 374 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,360 It was, I would do a lap if I needed a toilet to go to the 375 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,240 toilet. I didn't think I was drinking 376 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280 that much. But thinking back on it, a lot 377 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,000 of the stuff that I was eating had quite a lot of liquid in it. 378 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,040 I was needing to pee almost every lap that there was. 379 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520 So I knew I was drinking enough because I was needing to pee. 380 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:10,080 Yeah, number twos. If you're eating the right spot 381 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,800 on right amount of food, then you shouldn't be wasting 382 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,200 anything. So you shouldn't need to go to 383 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,720 the toilet. How? 384 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:15,520 Much. Yeah. 385 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Nobody ever does that. It's an impossible thing to do. 386 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:25,640 So I would have said that probably every 12 hours or 387 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,520 something like that. Then I needed to go. 388 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:36,520 So I was comfortable with that. But in terms of can you do a 389 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,400 faster lap, I tend to if I run faster, I need to go to the 390 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,760 toilet quicker so I didn't want to. 391 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560 DV. DV off the course didn't need to 392 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,000 go because it was public land. Plenty of people, males and 393 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,960 females, went for pee breaks at the side of the trail. 394 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,400 I don't know anybody. I certainly didn't. 395 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,920 That went for a poo break on the side of the trail. 396 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,480 Felt there's so we've talked about food, we've talked about 397 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,960 your crew sleep. That's going to be another thing 398 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,640 that people are really interested in. 399 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:22,640 How How do you get sleeping? So race started at 10 AM since 400 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:31,760 we didn't don't think we've got to that part first yard 10 AMI. 401 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,240 First thing I do is do I need the toilet? 402 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Go do the toilet. Get that out of the way with 403 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,040 first, then eat. Then if I've got any spare time, 404 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,440 I will lie down even if it's two minutes, get the eye shut 405 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,000 because the way that I see it is that is resting might not be 406 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,840 sleeping, but at least it's resting. 407 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Get your feet up in the air and rest. 408 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Yeah. In terms of sleep IA lot of the 409 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,080 the yards that I did, I was, I was trying to actively run with 410 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:18,560 other people and one of the earlier yards and I say earlier 411 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,160 it was probably actually I think it was about yard 5 or something 412 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080 like that. I did a 36 minute yard. 413 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Wow. And the weird thing was I was 414 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,040 just chatting to the I was running at their pace. 415 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,720 I was chatting to somebody and it felt normal. 416 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Yeah, another yard I was running with. 417 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680 I think I ran quite a few yards with Frank Mcgaffney. 418 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,400 Yeah. And we were doing slower yards. 419 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,880 I can't even remember how what we're going to pace to work, but 420 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680 a fast yard and a slow yard, it didn't seem much different. 421 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,240 But the difference was when you get back, you've got that spare 422 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,440 time. Yeah, but I wasn't actively 423 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,720 going, deliberately doing faster yards to get sleep. 424 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,680 I know I have in the past I've there have been racist that I 425 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,720 was doing 43 minute yards and I had I'll get back, go to the 426 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600 toilet has something to eat and then that gives me 10 minutes. 427 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,440 Restless. This time it wasn't and I know 428 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,640 that I definitely a lot of them were just rest, but there was at 429 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,480 least once that had a 10 minute proper sleep and I think Ross 430 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760 took a picture for us. But the other I had an I mask on 431 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200 so I could sleep while it was still light. 432 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880 And noise cancelling headphones as well. 433 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640 They had a generator on and the noise cancelling headphones 434 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 helped. And when he took that picture, 435 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,240 he got a message from me, as you can imagine, saying baby in 436 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400 India, that's not creepy in the slightest. 437 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,480 He one of the first things or last things he asked before the 438 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200 race starts is are you planning on getting rest? 439 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,960 Do you want us to watch you sleep? 440 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 And what was your answer? Will it make a difference if I 441 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440 say no? Obviously thing I don't care. 442 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,920 I think his intentions were. What a real question do you? 443 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Like when do you want to wake up? 444 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,080 When do you want us to wake you up? 445 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320 Was probably the right way to ask. 446 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Yes, definitely. And if and if Ross, you have a 447 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,320 crew me for the backyard and if I ever get to that stage, that 448 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440 will always be no, please don't watch me sleep. 449 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,760 That's just weird. So you mentioned Frank Mcgaffney 450 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360 and you enjoyed his company on the course. 451 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Who was there? Anyone else? 452 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 There's probably going to be two people, too many people. 453 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400 You'll be worried to like leave people out, I would imagine. 454 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,960 But are there is there anyone like mentioned Ian as well as 455 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,760 seeing you're on with Ian. Alice managed to get a picture 456 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,640 with you. Yeah. 457 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,960 In, in terms of previous guests, again, I don't want to miss 458 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,520 anybody out. No, I'm not going to. 459 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840 I enjoy talking to everybody that was out there. 460 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,240 Lizzie who was on previously, she was one of the people that 461 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680 was out there. Tried her. 462 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:39,560 Yeah, there was plenty of people and guests or future guests, 463 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:46,840 yeah, but yeah, there's loads of people, 232 other people. 464 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,920 So yeah, plenty of people's chat. 465 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,360 Here and we mentioned Eric as the race director. 466 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,640 Jonathan is Jonathan Eric's brother? 467 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,680 Yes, Yep, he's also involved. Can. 468 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,120 No parents as well. And we can leave out the 469 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Marshalls and the volunteers, like need to give them a 470 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,480 mention. How were they on the course? 471 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,120 They were, there were certain points that there was Marshalls 472 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,720 throughout the whole race. Yeah. 473 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,120 So I, I don't think once, once you got to a certain time, you 474 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,120 probably didn't need the Marshalls there because we'd 475 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,960 done it 24 times already that you didn't need them there. 476 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,920 But it, it was, Oh, right. I know. 477 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,320 I don't. I don't need to bother looking 478 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,840 at the sign which was a Marshall here too. 479 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Guide you. Yeah. 480 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,560 Yeah. I think it's a good idea, 481 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,080 though, because you're really well experienced at doing these 482 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,520 things. I mean, if you get someone 483 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360 that's new, that's hitting these big distances and, you know, 484 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600 they're not really used to dealing with sleep deprivation, 485 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960 it would be easy for them to wander off, I would imagine. 486 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Funny, somebody else who is fine was Alec Sweet and the World 487 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,520 Team Championships last time round. 488 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,840 He was the assist to see the Perry at yard 58. 489 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,000 He took a wrong turning and went down one of the side trails and 490 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000 realised I'm not where I'm supposed to be. 491 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Went back on, found the trail, did the loop and it just took 492 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:28,080 such a mental hit that he 58 hours in, you've done the same 493 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,760 thing over and over again. You should know, but it was just 494 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,360 sleep deprivation meant that he didn't continue. 495 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:44,159 But that that course, I think it had that this is the one in 496 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,520 threat for the world teams is that it had a lot of signage and 497 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,280 a good amount of signage, but it needed it because the course was 498 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,360 very convoluted. The one at Russell Bock, I 499 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,840 personally prefer it. Yeah. 500 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,720 There, it had a lot of signage as well there. 501 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,600 They didn't necessarily need it all. 502 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Some of it was when you're getting sleep that arrived. 503 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:14,240 They had like glow sticks on the ground where there was roots 504 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,320 sticking up. Yeah. 505 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,400 But that I, I knew the root was there, but it meant that from 506 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,480 like 10 meters away you could see, oh, I'm still going the 507 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640 right way. And thinking about it right now, 508 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,400 you think, oh, I don't need to know that. 509 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:37,880 But when you've been awake for probably say, 24 hours then and 510 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,400 it pits black, you just want this reassurance that you're 511 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,720 going, you're in the right place. 512 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,960 And how is the? How is the elevation on this 513 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,440 route? Pretty flat. 514 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160 Not not completely flat, but pretty flat. 515 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,080 Enough hills to keep your legs interested, but not. 516 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,760 Not like Highlander. Not too many to tire you out. 517 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,360 Yeah, so don't have any big huge hills like the old the 518 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,280 Highlander. Route No. 519 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,200 The hills that it did have didn't go on for too long or 520 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,840 weren't too steep, so there was a bit of elevation, but it was 521 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,720 more gradual. And before we move on to the 522 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:24,960 Sunday of when things took a turn, did you get any videos or 523 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080 photos with the Ruffalo this time round? 524 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,880 No, I did. Can't even remember who I was 525 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:40,280 talking to at the time. I did quote whatever I, I did 526 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,040 say the Ruffalo to whoever was running with her at the time and 527 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,680 they've got a kid and they couldn't remember how it went, 528 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640 so they were amused by it. It was just that sort of thing 529 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:59,320 that you that you talk about that it's like nobody would talk 530 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,480 about that sort of thing. And two adults having a 531 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,440 conversation about a little brown mouse went for a walk and 532 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,520 a little Russell Bob Woods. You don't have that conversation 533 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,760 in normal life, but it's just that sort of little things that 534 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,280 get you by. Yeah, it's funny. 535 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,960 To be fair, if you do have kids, I mean, you probably do remember 536 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,000 it and can recite. I can't remember it. 537 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,320 Like there was a mouse down in the deep dark woods. 538 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,600 The little brown mouse took a walk in the deep dark woods, and 539 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,760 the mouse saw a nut in the night. 540 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,840 They not look good. There you go. 541 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,720 And I also a mouse in the can't remember. 542 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,240 Yeah, that will last a mouse to go for a tree topped house. 543 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,360 But anyway I. Will ice cream. 544 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,760 As well his favorite cruise. I was actually something that 545 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,560 I've don't regret. But before it started to get 546 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,080 dark, there were statues of the Gruffalo. 547 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120 That's why I was quoting the Gruffalo last night round. 548 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,560 And there was what I assume was the little brown mouse, but I 549 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,040 honestly thought it was a squirrel. 550 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,880 And I was like, what, Why I I didn't think it was a real 551 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,200 squirrel. I thought it was a statue of a 552 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600 squirrel. It's like a squirrel took a walk 553 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,160 in the deep dark woods. But no, the, the other thing 554 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:25,360 that was near the Gruffalo was a monkey or a chimpanzee or a 555 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,320 chimpanzee monkey or whatever. And I was trying to think in my 556 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,120 head. The mouse took a walk in the 557 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,560 deep, dark woods, and the mouse saw a monkey. 558 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960 And no, I'm going to have tea with the Gruffalo. 559 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,200 And his favorite food is monkey brains. 560 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,720 I couldn't work it. I didn't get ready for the 561 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,880 carpet. But now you're going. 562 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,440 There we go then. So apart from like the light 563 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,360 heartedness of the race, obviously last night, Sunday 564 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,840 night, I'm getting settled into my bed and just have a wee look 565 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,400 at the timing, Monkey. And you and Ian didn't finish 566 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000 the loop, OK? So send you a message. 567 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,880 Are you OK? What's going on? 568 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,000 And then shortly after that, eight others decided not to 569 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,480 continue. And then there was 2 left and it 570 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,560 was like, right, something has happened here. 571 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,720 Now, my first thought was because let's face it, with 572 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,160 people that know me, you know me, I am one of the biggest 573 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,160 overthinkers. I'm thinking, Oh my God, Mike's 574 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160 had a heart attack or something on the course and Ian's dragged 575 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,440 them back and that's why they were late. 576 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,840 And they've all decided not to continue because they're so 577 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,640 upset. And there's been this medical 578 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,520 emergency text four other people. 579 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,280 I think I'd text Kayleigh Webster, who was down there. 580 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,200 I text Alice, I text Ross. Ian was almost getting a text. 581 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,240 And then and then so on WhatsApp you were typing. 582 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,920 I was like, oh, OK, he's alive. So and then so tell us what 583 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,760 happened, what was, what was actually going on when Time and 584 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,200 Monkey wiped you all out? Well, yeah. 585 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:23,880 So on yard, is it 30, yard 35, it was 34 hours in and something 586 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840 that we haven't talked about, I'll go on to that one in a 587 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,280 second, was it was the time when the clocks changed? 588 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,760 Oh yes, of course. And I did wonder. 589 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,760 I wonder if you would all get an extra yard a bonus. 590 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,440 Yard. Well, I I deliberately on my 591 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,880 watch, People set it up in different ways. 592 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,560 I had nothing on it. Mileage didn't matter. 593 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,280 I had one screen for battery life and the other screen was 594 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,720 race time. So when the clocks changed, 595 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:03,480 didn't matter. Yeah, it was race time, but they 596 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:09,360 started at 10 AM Yeah, 24 hours in when people got to the 100 597 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,840 miles because that's why it's 4.167 miles. 598 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:19,360 Oh. It's 11. 24 * 4.167 is 100 599 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,320 miles, yeah. So that's the reason for it. 600 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,800 But yeah, it wasn't 10:00, it was 11:00. 601 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,440 And that messes with people. Yeah. 602 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:36,360 But anyway, get back to the question about yard 34 or we're 603 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,640 on 35 and I'll let you work out what time of night that was. 604 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040 It was near midnight. I've been. 605 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,200 It was, it was deaf, it was about, it wasn't actually. 606 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,120 This is where you have timings are skewed. 607 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,880 It was actually only about 9:00 because I was in my jammies 608 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,880 getting settled. And then it was after 10 that 609 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,640 I've seen it all go a bit wrong. And I'm like, oh, right, what's 610 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480 happened here? Because I was genuinely getting 611 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,120 settled. And This is why, children, you 612 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,800 don't take your, your phone to bed with you because I was 613 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,680 actually quite sleepy. And I thought, right, I'll just 614 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,320 do one last check and see how they're all getting on. 615 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,560 And that happened. And as I said there, my brain 616 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000 went into OverDrive and went, Oh, my God, what's happened? 617 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120 And I think the last I do remember, like waking up this 618 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,680 morning because you text and you said you were all OK. 619 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,920 And then I could relax at that point. 620 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,120 And that was a the last message you sent me last night was the 621 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,480 photo, which you'll get on to at 21 minutes past 10. 622 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,400 Yeah. The reason why I thought it was 623 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,800 midnight or midnight in my head is once everything was sorted 624 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,360 out, that was kind of the time that we, yeah, settled down. 625 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,280 I think that's what it was. But when for all us at home 626 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,120 watching, not seeing, and, you know, furiously trying to get 627 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,960 Russell Bock to see if there was anything on Instagram to tell us 628 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000 all what happened, what was happening down there when you 629 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:06,520 guys were out on the course. So we left. 630 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,280 Left camp. It was strangely windier than 631 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,600 normal. Unforecast weren't supposed to 632 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,760 be getting wind at that time of night. 633 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,240 Wind was supposed to be at 2:00 in the afternoon, but continuing 634 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,640 anyway. You run down the long straight, 635 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,480 turn the corner to another long straight, and me and Alex Sweet 636 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,600 and don't know who else had, We'd mean that that was a wind 637 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,120 tunnel because you turn in and it's always windy down there. 638 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,680 You turn off a bit and there's no wind. 639 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,480 It was strange. Good. 640 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000 Then that wind tunnel because it was windier than normal, but it 641 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,600 had been on camp. And then you turn up past mock 642 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:58,400 World War 2 bunker and one of the early yards. 643 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,760 I'd been talking to somebody and we couldn't remember what, what 644 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,720 they were. What, what's that thing called? 645 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,240 It was called a bunker. And that was always the point. 646 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,800 I was, I was mile one, the bunker marked mile one because I 647 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,640 always set out my my markers and that was when I took my buff off 648 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,800 every lap, every single lap. That was when I came off. 649 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:28,200 And then mile 2 had the zigzags in it. 650 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:36,440 There was basically you came off the normal Land Rover tracks on 651 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,680 a bit the IT was a lot of the the forestry trails have got 652 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,640 bike tracks in it. And this was obviously a bike 653 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,520 track that went back and forth, back and forth. 654 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:52,720 And that was the zigzags at this near near the start of the 655 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,480 zigzags went down. I was like, this is the point to 656 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,280 turn. This is what we normally turn, 657 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,440 but there's a tree down the tree across the course. 658 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,600 I can't be. And then I saw the sign, the 659 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,120 other side of the tree. That was when Lizzie came along. 660 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,840 She'd been running behind me. I was like, no, you're going the 661 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,680 right way. Something not right. 662 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,840 So we climbed over the tree and we continued. 663 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,360 And then I saw another tree down to the side, another tree, and 664 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640 we could hear another tree falling. 665 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,880 I was like, right, I'm going to phone Eric. 666 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:40,320 So I phoned Eric said there's trees down in the zigzags and 667 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,960 the reply was OK, there's five tents on camp that are down, 668 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,720 we're gathering everybody and they had a a rendezvous point at 669 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:55,280 the visitor centre which was next to the Gruffalo which was 670 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400 pretty much at the end of the yard. 671 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,200 So we had to go through the forest with the shrapnel coming 672 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,000 to get one person got hit by a pine cone and that was the only 673 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,760 injury. Nobody got hurt. 674 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:20,800 Nobody got hurt at all. Craig McQueen was running with 675 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,640 us and Alex Sweet was around us. So we all the other stuck 676 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,440 together. There was absolutely no rush to 677 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,560 get back because as far as I was concerned, they weren't going to 678 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,680 be able to continue the raid. It it wasn't, it wasn't even a 679 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,800 choice that Eric could make. I think I, I don't know whether 680 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,160 the Forestry Commission even knew that it was happening, but 681 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,240 they wouldn't have allowed it to continue. 682 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:57,280 So we all got gathered in the, the one place at the end, 683 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,320 there's a, a picture of us all. I think there's 12 people left 684 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,760 at the end and we're all waiting just to see. 685 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,240 At that point, we hadn't been back to camp to make sure that 686 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,320 was was my tent one of the five that's down? 687 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,880 How was my stuff? They didn't know because it was 688 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,600 to them it was just tents. They didn't know whose crew was 689 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,320 with what. Are my crew OK? 690 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,000 By that time, Ross had left to go home. 691 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,840 Ian was there. Rich was still there. 692 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:40,640 I was like, we don't know what's happening, so think about that. 693 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520 I could have looked at my phone and there probably would have 694 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,480 been messages making sure I was OK I couldn't reply to them. 695 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,240 But in the heat of the moment, it was just like, you're in this 696 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,000 confined space and you're staying there. 697 00:47:52,120 --> 00:48:00,520 Yeah, eventually they said you can go back to camp, get your 698 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,600 essentials. And then I think the original 699 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:11,480 plan was everybody, crew as well, were going back to the 700 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280 visitor centre and we were staying there until the wind 701 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,680 came down. While we were back at camp, the 702 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,680 wind just disappeared. It's gone. 703 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:26,360 There's no no wind at all. It was if it came in, did its 704 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,320 damage and left. But as you say, they couldn't 705 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,680 have allowed it to continue because you can't predict that 706 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,800 you and not only that debate you stopped like I would like the 707 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,880 clocks by there was the old clock has passed. 708 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,040 The race is done. Like as soon as that happens, 709 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,280 that yard's done. Nobody was on the start line, so 710 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,880 we're all. DNF D Exactly. 711 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,160 So now going forward, I would imagine we're recording this on 712 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,320 the Monday night. This all only happened last 713 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,400 night and I would imagine Eric, Jonathan, all the other base 714 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,240 organisers are getting their own heads around it. 715 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,720 I did see Eric had put a post on today saying there'll be more to 716 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:15,000 come but what have you 12 been told for now? 717 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,160 Is just that's it done or are you offered a place in a future 718 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,160 event or has no one been told anything yet? 719 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,400 I think in terms of runners, it's it's too early to decide 720 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,800 what I'm doing. I I've deliberately said to 721 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,320 myself even if I was offered a race next week, I'm not thinking 722 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,920 about it. I'm not making any draft 723 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,680 decisions for a few days. Doesn't matter what it is 724 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,440 offered unless somebody wants to offer me £1,000,000 to go and 725 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,280 run a backyard tomorrow. Sorry I've not got I'm I'm a bit 726 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:56,320 strapped. But no, I, I saw Eric this 727 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,880 morning. We, we went back to camp because 728 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,560 the wind had disappeared. We were able to get to our cars. 729 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:10,120 I had the the van, I moved that into the centre of camp, so it 730 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,520 was away from any trees. If there was trees that fallen 731 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,560 over, they wouldn't have landed anywhere near me. 732 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,800 The the other thing about the, the race being called off, 733 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:27,400 although the windows stopped, we don't know what state that there 734 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,640 could have been a tree waiting to fall that was popped up on 735 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,200 branches. If somebody walked past it, then 736 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,400 it could have fallen on them. So there's absolutely 100% the 737 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,840 right choice to. Make absolutely, and it's always 738 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,440 got to be safety first for everyone because it just 739 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840 wouldn't have been worth it to continue if you're worried like 740 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:53,320 you can. So how was Eric when you last 741 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,000 left him? Because I would imagine he, 742 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,760 along with you guys will be absolutely gutted because this 743 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,160 is now the second Russell Bock event that's been totally out 744 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,680 with his control. You know, it's he's got to be 745 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,520 pretty gutted about I would imagine. 746 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,280 I think he's feeling pretty stressed. 747 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,280 Yeah. So if anybody sees Eric, give 748 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,120 him a hug. I want to give you a hug and I 749 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,280 can have not many yet. So travelled up the road today. 750 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,800 How? And I seen you get out of the 751 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,600 van. You, you were hobbling a bit. 752 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:36,800 How are you? Well, during the race I come 753 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,840 back to strategies. I'd I didn't have a caffeine 754 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:46,520 strategy, just keep me awake. I was willing to don't be afraid 755 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,840 to take caffeine and take it when I need it, not necessarily 756 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:59,280 before it at it got dark overnight. 757 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:06,480 The first night I didn't feel tired until the last hour of it 758 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,560 being dark. So that was what 6 in the 759 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,000 morning? So I took some caffeine and I 760 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,240 don't drink tea or coffee just because I don't like flavour of 761 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:16,680 it. I don't drink fizzy juice 762 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:26,040 because I don't when I take caffeine it it works for I don't 763 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,600 know how long it was. I've got it written down between 764 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,200 the first lot of caffeine and then the second lot of caffeine, 765 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,440 but it got to the point that I was taking caffeine every two 766 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:46,880 hours, 1 Pro plus, so a caffeine tablet and the the doctor's 767 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,480 guidance is you shouldn't take more than 400 milligrams of 768 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,360 caffeine a day. So obviously a runner's guidance 769 00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,160 is no more than 600. So I worked out that that is 770 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:09,160 every two hours I would, it would, it seemed to take 3/4 of 771 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,200 a yard to kick in, then I had a full yard and then I would take 772 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,120 it for the next 1. So I'd start getting tired and 773 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,800 it would kick in again and then it'd be OK. 774 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,280 So I think I had about 600 milligrams of caffeine. 775 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:32,240 And when you don't take caffeine, I was prepared to be 776 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:37,200 continuing for a long time. I didn't know the vase was going 777 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,920 to get stopped. So I was, I was taking caffeine 778 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:47,480 as if I was continuing. When we eventually got to go to 779 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,640 bed, as it were, I've got a bed in the van. 780 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,720 So yes, it was bed. I basically sat on my phone most 781 00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:59,520 of the time. I was dozing but I didn't sleep. 782 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,320 I may have got say 2 hours sleep. 783 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,680 I was interrupted to sleep because I was so high in 784 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,520 caffeine. Got up at I think 7:00 in the 785 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,760 morning. I felt wide awake, but at the 786 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,200 same time I felt like I hadn't slept. 787 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,720 Yeah, just wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 788 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,480 And then Rich had taken down the tent. 789 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:33,160 He'd packed away most of the stuff, but he'd left outside the 790 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520 van because he didn't know that I was awake in the van. 791 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,120 And then he went and got his bus home because he had travelled up 792 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,000 on the bus, but he had booked his bus last minute to get home 793 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,440 because he didn't know what time it's going to spend. 794 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,600 So he'd went home and I was sitting there. 795 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,200 I could sit on my phone or I could start driving. 796 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,520 I was, I was wide awake. So drove. 797 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,880 I went into Mansfield, which is the nearest town. 798 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,800 Oh, that I have a diesel and we're going to get home, right. 799 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,400 Go to the next pedal station or that I have diesel. 800 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,920 OK, go to the next one. And luckily I managed to fill 801 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,160 up, so I've got plenty of fuel to get home. 802 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,640 I drove up the road. I started to get tired. 803 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,000 It's just like the the mundane traffic going up the motorway. 804 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:37,280 So proven the services and set an alarm and slept and I don't 805 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,760 know how long my alarm had been going off. 806 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,880 You get 2 hours free in the motorway services. 807 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,080 I was up before the two hours, but it was cutting it fine. 808 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,400 Yeah, I slept through my alarm. Well, must as he did that. 809 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,480 I think I got about an hour and a half there. 810 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,040 I knew I had to leave the services car park before I got a 811 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,840 £60 parking fine so I did and I took more propose to be able to 812 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,640 drive up. I only took one, so I've only 813 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:17,720 had 50 milligrams today, but got off the road and I felt fine all 814 00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:19,840 the way. So I'm here now. 815 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,400 I've survived and I could still drive. 816 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,120 I feel conscious enough, although zoning out sometimes. 817 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,920 That is because I have to think. The mundane motorway driving is 818 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,920 different type of thinking I think. 819 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,720 But you're not because you're going to get a decent rest here. 820 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,960 Hopefully the bed will be comfortable enough and mass snow 821 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,920 room won't be too loud in the next room. 822 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,720 So how's your feet? We were talking about that 823 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,680 before we started recording. It says your left one looks a 824 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,040 bit battled. How? 825 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,320 How are they? Is the roofing gel still working 826 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:06,880 or are they getting sore yet? I have got cantles 1 foot left, 827 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,920 one is rather swollen. It's kind of bruised looking at 828 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,480 it. It's, yeah, probably. 829 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,120 Honestly, and I don't know how people do Podiatry, I just 830 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,600 couldn't. Well, all all I can say is when 831 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,360 you hurt your ankle whenever it was six months ago, but that 832 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,280 looks. Worse, I actually feel as though 833 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,880 I really dramatize right now looking at that. 834 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,600 OK, yeah. And you're still like, actually 835 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,240 it does look pretty battered. If you're watching the YouTube, 836 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,440 you'll I don't know how well you'll be able to see that, but 837 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,960 looking at it in reality, you should be getting a good few 838 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,480 pictures of that and just seeing how you go with it. 839 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,000 But you're quite right not to think the next few days about 840 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,080 races and what you're going to be doing going forwards. 841 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,400 I mean, you want, the one thing you have said to me is you 842 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200 definitely will race again because we're runners and let's 843 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,120 be realistic. We all say I'm never doing that 844 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,760 again. And then three days, like, oh, 845 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:14,880 there's a race. Yeah, well, I've, I know that 846 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520 I'm not making any drastic decision about what race I'm 847 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,160 going to do, but of course I'm going to race. 848 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,880 There's never been a thought that I'm not going to race 849 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,480 again. Of course I'm going to if my 850 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,280 uncle let me. That will be fine. 851 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,480 It always says, always says you've been through us. 852 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,320 I've been through a lot worse and no sympathy is 853 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,600 self-inflicted. A little bit. 854 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,840 You did go an awful long way. How far in total did we manage 855 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,920 then? For those of us that can't do 856 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,360 maths in 34 yards, did you do 34 or 35? 857 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:51,120 We were on 35I. Think so? 858 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,200 We basically complete, so let's count that like just for 859 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,320 counting sake. How? 860 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:04,520 35, 35. So you got 24. 3036 is 150, so 861 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,120 you're talking 145 lbs. That's pretty impressive. 862 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,360 But. It's about 100 short of what was 863 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,320 aiming for. Yeah. 864 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,280 So these things. Happened. 865 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,800 And the one thing we did have a wee joke about as well before 866 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,280 we. Went and recorded this tonight. 867 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,240 Was yourself and Lizzie Gavin. I'm not doing the backyard 868 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,680 together ever again. We did agree, whether it was 869 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,840 jokingly or. Not We were both at Highlander 870 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200 and I got called off. We were both at Harvard Hall and 871 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,000 I got called off. And this is the third time we 872 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,440 are going to consult each other's race Diaries and never 873 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,280 race at the same time. Well, I think it is. 874 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800 Just a full coincidence because I think you would make a really 875 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,720 good team. The field, as I said to you, 876 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,920 it's such a shame and I'm genuinely, I'm gutted for 877 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,920 everyone and not even just the runners, but for the race 878 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,040 organisers, for everything, you know, because what a strong 879 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,960 field it was and what a shame it was. 880 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,720 But I've absolutely no doubt that Russell Bock will come back 881 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,320 from it and they'll have the strong runners and you know, who 882 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,960 knows, get the UK record. Yeah, at some point soon, 883 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,240 hopefully. What what I said to Eric this 884 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,080 morning is. These things happen with the 885 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:33,920 race but the only, it's not even a worry, it's thought that I've 886 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,640 got is my intention was or so is to qualify for the UK team and 887 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,960 how am I going to do that? What do I need, what race do I 888 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,840 need to do to be able to get to do that and recover? 889 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,720 And it's just something I've got to think about. 890 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,360 I don't want to think about it at the moment. 891 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,560 No, no, that's definitely for the future. 892 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,520 And I've no doubt, and the listeners will have no doubt 893 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,440 that you will get there. Yeah. 894 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,480 So I think that wraps us up for. Mike's special episode of 895 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680 Rehashing Raslbach. Mike probably can't remember 896 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,680 what we spoke about for the last wee while, so it'll be 897 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,120 interesting. And I think, as I said, that's 898 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,920 all from me. Thank you, Mike for being Mike 899 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,360 and good night and it's good night for me.