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Welcome to Sheeper Assisted. 
I'm your host Sadie Sutton, a 19

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year old from the Bay Area 
studying psychology at the 

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University of Pennsylvania. 
Sheeper Assisted is the teen 

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mental health podcast made for 
teenagers by a teen. 

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In each episode I'll bring you 
authentic, accessible and 

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relatable conversations about 
every aspect of mental Wellness 

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you can expect. 
Evidence based teen approved 

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resources, coping skills 
including lots of DBT insights 

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and education, and each piece of
content you consume. 

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She Persisted offers you a safe 
space to feel validated and 

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understood in your struggle 
while encouraging you to take 

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ownership of your journey and 
build your life worth living. 

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So let's dive in this week on 
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Really the advice that I want to
give any students and anyone 

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that's navigating back to school
because it's very anxious and 

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avoidance prone time, especially
if you're in college is when you

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feel that feeling of like, I'd 
rather not I'd like to avoid 

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this is uncomfortable. 
Go towards that thing. 

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And maybe you don't go towards 
it today, but tomorrow you start

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working yourself up towards it 
because it's one of the best 

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things you can do for your 
academic and personal 

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well-being. 
Hello, hello you guys, and 

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welcome back to Sheep Persisted.
I'm so excited to hear today. 

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Happy back to school. 
We're doing a really fun DBT 

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edition of back to school tips 
and tricks and advice and all 

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the things I just came from my 
introduction to developmental 

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Psychology class. 
We're very much in the back to 

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school mode and I'm going to 
share with you guys all my 

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pieces of advice from a DBT lens
on how you can optimize this 

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school year, set a good 
foundation for your mental 

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health, and have this be a 
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I have my giant book of DBT from
McClain. 

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This is my Bible, and we are 
going to go through a number of 

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things in this episode. 
But I want to start with setting

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goals and intentions for the 
school year and what I'm doing 

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this year and how I'm 
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because I think it's a very 
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year to want to make shifts and 
changes and improve on what 

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you've done in the past. 
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school years, not calendar years
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the cycle runs for me, if that 
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And so whenever I'm thinking of 
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made, I do kind of mark those by
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January 1st. 
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cannot make a shift or a change 
if we don't first have an 

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awareness of the issue or of the
behavior of the emotion or 

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whatever it is. 
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awareness and being mindful of 
what maybe isn't as effective as

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it could be. 
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effective way to do that is to 
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And everyone's different. 
Use a system that works for you,

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but I'm going to tell you how I 
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reflect on setting my goals 
based on that data, if you will.

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So I've been tracking since 
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I did my first bullet journal in
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It was really bad, but it's part
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And I've always found tracking 
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And then it's kind of a creative
outlet to like make these 

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spreads and fill in the colors 
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It's also really reinforcing for
me when it comes to navigating 

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tasks and goals and behaviors to
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checking off and working 
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Some people are just very 
intrinsically motivated and they

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get so much joy out of doing the
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For me, a lot of the times I 
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work through my list like that 
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So again, awareness. 
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What gives you that little spike
of dopamine and gets you 

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motivated to do the next thing? 
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journal since middle school. 
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intensively in 8th grade and 
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part of treatment. 
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things in the diary card into my
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tracked today. 
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diary cards from DBT or 
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which is a lot of the skills 
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episode, and DBT uses diary 
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The 1st is that when you get to 
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therapist is like, how did the 
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We don't answer that very well. 
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the specific thing that I want 
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But when you think about how was
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the afternoon, most of us 
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and not just like, was today a 
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you're struggling with urges, if
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types of thoughts, if you're 
struggling with certain 

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behaviors, are you feeling 
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Are you feeling hopeful? 
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we remember. 
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here that I learned in a recent 
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to love, it's all about 
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about depression and all these 
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recollect times when we felt 
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that we were depressed is also 
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current mood. 
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objectively measuring this is 
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brains are just not good at 
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And so diarrhea cards are really
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extensive. 
You're tracking the skills 

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you're using, the emotions 
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behaviors, all these things. 
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route. 
I lean really heavily on my 

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tasks and not from like a 
productivity, everything has to 

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get done because every single 
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to the next day. 
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understand how busy my week is 
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things like spending time with 
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or study blocks, things like 
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working out and so I'll do an 
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I saw this on Kelsey Knight's 
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have a box for each day of the 
year you fill one in when you've

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done a workout. 
So far, I think I have zero 

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boxes colored in for the school 
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So definitely we are taking a 
flexible approach to this 

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tracking and the behaviors as a 
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in tracking or if I really feel 
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I do have a tracker and the 
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for example, wake up by a 
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certain time. 
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Did I spend time with friends 
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at class? 
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Did I use my skills? 
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on your habit tracker because 
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We always use some kind of 
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Add that in there, give you that
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reinforcement. 
Start building that momentum. 

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I always add that to my habit 
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So I pick behaviors that are 
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whole and are objective markers.
So like if my goal is to get 

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more consistent and better 
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slept well. 
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11:00 PM, got out of bed by 9:00
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to be like was athletic. 
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this many steps? 
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per week? 
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easy goal and a very flexible 
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daily basis and you're 
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the end of the week, at the end 
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Another thing that I like to do 
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year is ask myself where I want 
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It can be kind of hard to be 
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want to set for the next week or
what specific goal am I focusing

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on? 
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magic wand and have all these 
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the start of next semester, what
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And so, so more like reading 
more often, being more 

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consistent with how I spread out
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procrastinating and doing it all
in one day, building a more 

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consistent study block. 
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that workload versus being 
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having a more consistent sleep 
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Always a battle, have not won 
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will set that intention or goal 
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or no specific way. 
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give you here from Grit Lab, I'm
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this semester at Penn. 
It's phenomenal. 

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We will definitely be doing a 
recap of all the things I've 

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learned. 
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taught us is that the way that 
we think about our goals has a 

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real impact on how we're 
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athletes and these really high 
performers, a lot of them aren't

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focusing on a specific goal like
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The journey for them is what 
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goal is to train for the 
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about the journey and not the 
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Because if you haven't achieved 
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athlete who's trying to like 
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themselves, but your goal is to,
for example, join new clubs this

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year, or make new friends or get
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Whatever it is, if you haven't 
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motivating to focus on the 
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So think about where you are. 
Have you had a lot of wins? 

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In that case, what you should be
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your motivator. 
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I have not achieved anything, 
I'm just feeling like I need to 

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get some things under my belt 
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the journey. 
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destination and that's going to 
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So that's our little tidbit and 
thoughts on goals and intentions

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and tracking. 
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talk about is from the DBT 
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because I think regulating our 
emotions is like one of the most

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important things in life, 
especially so that we can show 

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up as students and effectively 
in our relationships and in the 

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way we interact with ourselves. 
And so the ABC skill is one of 

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my absolute favorite skills, 
stands for accumulate positives,

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build mastery, cope ahead. 
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start here with is coping ahead 
because I think it's the most 

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relevant to the start of the 
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But we're also going to talk 
about building mastery and 

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accumulating positives because 
there are two of my favorites. 

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So coping ahead is the idea that
you basically plan for your 

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worst case scenario outcome and 
your more realistic outcome so 

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that when you enter a new or 
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situation, you know what to 
expect and you're not caught off

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guard. 
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A, you're a little anxiety prone
like me, this is a got to end. 

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And so maybe you're coping ahead
for the first day of class, 

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Maybe you're coping ahead for 
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Maybe you're coping ahead for 
making new friends at your new 

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school, whatever it is. 
Basically what we do with Copa 

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Head is you're going to describe
in detail what the situation 

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would be that raises an intense 
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or make a decision that maybe 
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and meeting new people and 
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trying to introduce yourself or 
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new friends instead. 
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don't interact with people. 
You're on your phone, whatever 

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it is. 
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situation that's likely to cause
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pop up. 
You also want to check the facts

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this would be like, if I don't 
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not true. 
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day and you're like, what if I 
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and then I like frack my head 
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Sometimes I do like to do a cope
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OK, if I fall down the stairs in
front of everyone, is my life 

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going to be over? 
Am I never going to talk to 

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anyone ever again? 
Am I going to be a social 

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outcast? 
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continue to overcome that 
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case scenario because it shows 
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I can still thrive. 
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would allow me to navigate that.
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it's not effective for us to 
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overwhelmed about something 
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that it might happen and then it
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So you're not suffering for any 
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the kind of person that's like, 
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this happens? 
Really this is not going to 

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You can try that as well. 
You also want to be really clear

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about the emotions or behaviors 
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But if you were to say, I feel 
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rejected, I feel lonely, I feel 
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possible threat is, right? 
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be rejected and I want to feel 
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a sense of belonging and I don't
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group. 
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and think about it. 
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unknown covered by like 
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would use in that situation. 
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this out. 
Give yourself a list, put it in 

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your notes app, put it as your 
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Do what you got to do so you 
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If you're more just like 
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that you know that if this 
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thought about it before. 
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what skills you're going to use.
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positive emotions? 
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also doing the opposite of what 
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into the situation that makes 
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That is just as important as 
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situation and feel like you're 
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going to walk in the class and 
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be a whole thing and then your 
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blah, you're going to literally 
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school and like I opened the 
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I'm probably coming in late and 
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picturing people's faces that 
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people would respond. 
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like, Oh my gosh, what happened?
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their shoulders and I would 
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contact. 
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the lesson and I would be 
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I'm probably like blushing and 
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these thoughts of like, what are
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How are people reacting? 
What are people saying? 

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So what skills would you use? 
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deep breathing and I would tell 
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really intense and emotional 
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And 10 minutes from now, people 
aren't going to be thinking 

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about the fact that I just faced
by that. 

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People are going to be thinking 
about the Spanish test next 

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week. 
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things around me. 5 things. 
I can see four things I can hear

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three things I can touch two 
things I can smell one thing I 

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can taste. 
What are those things I'm going 

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to do to calm the emotions? 
And then what am I going to do 

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to avoid future anxiety building
about this? 

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I'm going to get up at some 
point in class and maybe like go

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I'm practicing walking in the 

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class and it will be OK. 
I'm not going to avoid going to 

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class the next day. 
I'm not going to get there 45 

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minutes early so no one sees me 
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etcetera. 
It's like, how are you going to 

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And then because this probably 
will be a little bit intense and

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emotional and you'll have some 
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the situation that might make 
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full or whatever it is. 
We use our coping skills, we do 

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some deep breathing, we 
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etcetera. 
So that's the copahead skill. 

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I think it's really, really 
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crucial for school and it should
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A lot of us don't do this, but 
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important. 
Building mastery is the next 

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thing we're going to talk about,
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skill. 
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interesting concept. 
I want to do a podcast episode 

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in depth on this because 
basically, like the key to life 

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and self esteem and feeling OK 
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And we've talked before in the 
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research. 
He is a positive psychologist. 

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He's like the father of positive
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I took his class last semester. 
I'll link an episode I did about

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positive psychology skills you 
can use or findings you can use 

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to improve your life. 
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about was that the opposite of 
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And learned helplessness is the 
idea that no matter what you do,

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no matter how hard you try, no 
matter what you say or think or 

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do or any of those things, you 
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And so you feel helpless. 
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to change your situation and 
overcome it and get out of it 

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and navigate that challenge, 
you've taught yourself that no 

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matter what you do, nothing's 
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So you just give up. 
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mastery. 
And mastery is a really, really 

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important thing because it gives
us a sense of competence and 

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independence and self esteem. 
And when you look at like what 

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people need to feel good and 
thrive, it's that feeling of 

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like, I can do this, I'm OK, I'm
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Autonomy, mastery are really, 
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And that's like self 
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It's as a human, we have that 
innate need to feel a sense of 

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mastery and competence. 
And so this is how DBT addresses

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that. 
And so if you were looking to 

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boost your self esteem, build 
your confidence, feel like you 

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have a more active role in your 
life, this is the skill for you.

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And every single one of us, 
regardless of who you are, needs

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to be building more mastery 
because we'll have such a net 

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positive on your life. 
So basically from the DB TS 

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perspective, building mastery 
means doing at least one thing 

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every day to build a sense of 
accomplishment, plan for 

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success, not failure, do 
something difficult but 

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possible. 
We don't want to be like, I'm 

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going to build mastery by 
running a marathon and then 

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tomorrow you run a marathon and 
fail obviously because you 

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didn't train for it. 
We do things that are possible 

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but challenging. 
And this is also where we get 

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into a lot of things in 
psychology, like how we focus 

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optimally is being a little bit 
anxious and aroused, but not 

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super calm and not super 
overwhelmed. 

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We do our best and we get into 
flow state, which is when you're

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just so focused and engaged in a
task that time flies by and you 

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don't focus on what's happening 
around you. 

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And all of a sudden it's been 3 
hours. 

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That happens to me in the 
podcast and I have 10 minutes 

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and I'm supposed to get on a 
meeting. 

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It's definitely not going to 
happen. 

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I get in flow state. 
I just talk and yap and all of a

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sudden it's been 2 hours. 
But with flow state, we're doing

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something that's challenging, 
but it's not so difficult that 

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we are overwhelmed and 
frustrated. 

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We also have this like happy 
medium challenging, not too 

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easy, not too hard. 
With boredom, we feel bored when

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we're doing a task that's too 
easy, like if you're just 

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pressing a button all day. 
We also feel bored when a task 

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is way too hard and challenging.
For me, my earth system science 

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class. 
It's boring because I don't 

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understand anything that's 
happening. 

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So there's this happy medium in 
psychology and how our brain 

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works. 
And so that's really important 

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when we think about building 
mastery is, yes, it's important 

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to get better at things, but we 
do that slowly by putting 

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ourselves in the outside of our 
comfort zone, but not like on 

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the other side of the world. 
And then the next step from DBT 

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is that we gradually increase 
the difficulty over time. 

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Again, we want to stay in that 
challenging zone. 

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And as we get better, we have to
make things harder. 

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And then lastly, we look for a 
challenge. 

455
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,920
So if the task is too easy, try 
something a little harder next 

456
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,440
time. 
This again is based on that 

457
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,320
psychology research. 
So building mastery is so 

458
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,400
important, so crucial. 
I think I didn't even remotely 

459
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480
understand the importance of 
building mastery when I did DBT 

460
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,400
the first time. 
But after all the class I've 

461
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,280
taken at Penn and all the 
research I've read and the more 

462
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,800
theories you learn about, you're
like, mastery is everything. 

463
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,200
I'm going to give you some fun 
ways that I build mastery in my 

464
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,560
life. 
And you'll see that it doesn't 

465
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,720
have to be school related, but 
school does give us a sense of 

466
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,920
mastery, which is one of the 
reasons why it's important for 

467
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,000
us to go to high school and 
maybe go to college or whatever.

468
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,920
Your next step is get a job at 
some point because it not only 

469
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,320
you're following the trajectory 
of life and society and 

470
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,600
eventually you're making money 
so you can support yourself, but

471
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,120
it also fills this really innate
psychological need. 

472
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,760
So some things I do for building
mastery, I try and get better 

473
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,040
and improve it. 
My makeup routine last year, I 

474
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,920
was like, I don't really like 
what I'm doing with my makeup 

475
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,960
routine. 
I feel like I've been doing the 

476
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,120
same thing since high school. 
I watched more videos, I adjust 

477
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,960
my techniques. 
I swapped out my products. 

478
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,360
Similarly, I have been trying a 
new way of doing my hair. 

479
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,480
You cannot tell if you're 
watching this on YouTube because

480
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,880
my hair is up in a bun because I
came from class and I'm sweating

481
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,520
from the lights of recording 
this podcast. 

482
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,320
But I'm trying my sister's hair 
technique, which I'll give you a

483
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,920
quick little summary of because 
it's actually really good. 

484
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,440
I have really thin, fine hair. 
It gets oily in one day and it's

485
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640
kind of straight, like if I 
sleep on it it'll maybe have 

486
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,480
some slight waves because I'm 
smashing it. 

487
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,720
But generally I have like pretty
thin, fine straight hair and I'm

488
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,360
only showing this because it's 
game changing. 

489
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,400
And if you have the same kind of
hair type, you'll want to try 

490
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,440
this. 
And what my sister does, she has

491
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,880
the same type of hair as she 
blow dries her hair every time 

492
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,680
she showers and then she applies
dry shampoo immediately. 

493
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,640
Her hair looked so much better 
than mine. 

494
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,280
Mine was really slacky in 
comparison. 

495
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,680
And so I've been trying this 
recently. 

496
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,000
So whenever I shower, I blow dry
my hair again. 

497
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
I have thin fine hair so it 
takes like 5 minutes. 

498
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,400
It's not a long thing. 
I just rough dry it and then I 

499
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,200
apply dry shampoo. 
And most of the time I do that 

500
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,600
at night and then I sleep on it.
I wake up in the morning, it's 

501
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,240
like smooth and straight and has
more volume and I'm loving it. 

502
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,760
So I'm building mastery over the
skill of doing my hair. 

503
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,320
It's simple. 
Maybe it's more like that's 

504
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,680
dumb, that's stupid. 
But this feeling of being able 

505
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,880
to get better at something and 
see improvement really is 

506
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,720
important for that confidence 
and self esteem. 

507
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,480
Other things that bring me that 
sense of mastery, the podcast, 

508
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,120
obviously getting better at 
interviewing and researching 

509
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:11,880
guests and creating this 
platform and video editing and 

510
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,640
social media. 
Like all of these pieces of the 

511
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,760
podcast have brought me probably
the greatest sense of mastery 

512
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,120
and self esteem and confidence 
in my life. 

513
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,800
And so that has been huge as an 
ongoing project. 

514
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,680
I love doing diamond painting. 
There's not much skill involved 

515
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,640
with this. 
You pick up the little diamonds 

516
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,480
and stick them in the shape of a
picture. 

517
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,880
And so that's another example of
doing something. 

518
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,480
We were getting better at it 
over time and that's like 

519
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,480
another fun little hobby. 
Hobbies are very important. 

520
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,200
We're going to touch on that in 
a second when we talk about 

521
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,000
accumulating positives. 
I really like flower arranging. 

522
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280
I arranged some flowers from 
Trader Joe's last week. 

523
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,800
I learned that skill one time. 
I did a class with my 

524
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280
grandmother, my great aunt, my 
mom, and my sisters during COVID

525
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080
and we learned like the basics 
of arranging flowers and getting

526
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,200
better at doing that is a really
fun skill for me. 

527
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480
Bullet journaling, organizing 
things, getting better at these 

528
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,640
systems. 
That brings me a sense of 

529
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,040
competence in mastery. 
We also get a sense of mastery 

530
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,440
when we learn new coping skills 
and get better at coping with 

531
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,280
life. 
Like all these things that we're

532
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,160
improving and getting better 
with are going towards that 

533
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080
sense of mastery. 
And then a big one, of course, 

534
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,040
is school, like learning new 
things in classes, doing well on

535
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,680
tests, moving through the 
hierarchy of freshman year to 

536
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,680
sophomore to junior to senior in
college or applications, getting

537
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,480
a job, an internship, whatever 
it is. 

538
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,280
These also build that sense of 
mastery. 

539
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,800
And luckily that's just kind of 
built into society. 

540
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,960
But it's also important to do 
this outside of those because 

541
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,920
those can also bring stress or 
maybe impact your well-being 

542
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,160
negatively. 
So that's building mastery. 

543
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,960
We're going to touch on 
accumulating positives. 

544
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,160
The best DVTS actually, I cannot
pick. 

545
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,360
That's like asking me to choose 
a favorite child or a favorite 

546
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,960
podcast episode. 
But accumulating positives is 

547
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,400
probably the most fun DBT skill.
Accumulating positives is the 

548
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880
idea that we are planning. 
We are being intentional. 

549
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Obviously, things happen in the 
moment, but we are being 

550
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,720
intentional and planning these 
moments for two reasons. 1 is 

551
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,520
that it gives us something to 
look forward to. 

552
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920
We are not getting into that 
headspace up. 

553
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,440
I literally have nothing going 
for me. 

554
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,400
I hate everything. 
There's nothing to look forward 

555
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,960
to. 
We have these moments of things 

556
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,720
we've planned. 
So for me, it's like I wake up, 

557
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,480
I get my coffee in the morning, 
I enjoy my walk to class, I'm 

558
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480
reading a good book that I can't
that way to curl up with at 

559
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
night and read that book. 
Right now I'm reading the woman 

560
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680
by Kristen Hannah. 
She wrote the Nightingale. 

561
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,600
I love that book so much. 
Like top five books I've ever 

562
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,120
read. 
And so I saw this on like the 

563
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,960
Kindle top charts and it's good.
It's a little heavy, it's a 

564
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,760
little darker. 
It's about the Vietnam War and a

565
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,680
woman that goes after her 
brother enlists and she's a 

566
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,240
nurse and it's definitely like a
little dark. 

567
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,160
So far I am not super far in, 
but I'm really liking it. 

568
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Kristen Hannah is a phenomenal 
author. 

569
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,440
I would start with the 
Nightingale though. 

570
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,320
The Nightingale so, so, so good.
You guys should all read that, 

571
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280
but it is historical fiction, so
also, if that's not your genre, 

572
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,880
totally get it. 
But it's a great book. 

573
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,400
Anywho, back to what we're 
trying to talk about here, which

574
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,800
is accumulating positives. 
For me, a random accumulating 

575
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800
positive is also just my room. 
I try to make my room, my dorm, 

576
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,520
a happy place. 
I have these fun little pillows.

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,640
I have lots of photos hung up. 
I put my flowers that I arranged

578
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,400
in here like these things that 
make me smile and feel happy and

579
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480
feel like a sense of home and 
security. 

580
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,960
I think this comes from being in
the troubled teen industry, but 

581
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,840
I really, really value that 
sense of consistency and 

582
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,920
security and having my own place
and feeling settled and stable 

583
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,080
and not like I'm living out of a
suitcase. 

584
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Having a show that you're 
looking forward to or enjoying? 

585
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840
I plan times to catch up on 
shows that I'm watching with my 

586
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,800
friends. 
So my friend and I are going to 

587
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,280
start Big Little Lies, which 
also I just read Big Little 

588
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Lies, the book that was so good.
My aunt recommended it, such a 

589
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,040
good read. 
We're going to watch the show 

590
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,160
and I will report back. 
We also just watched Presumed 

591
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,640
Innocent great loved that it's 
on Apple TV. 

592
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,040
And so these things that you're 
looking forward to and enjoy. 

593
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,040
If there's one piece of advice I
can give you here, yes, these 

594
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,640
little parts of your routine 
that bring you joy and pour in 

595
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,200
and are kind of easy to 
implement, but the biggest ROI 

596
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480
you'll get with your mental 
health is anything related to 

597
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,120
your relationships. 
So if you're planning to 

598
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,920
accumulate positives and you're 
like, I am feeling low energy, I

599
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280
don't have a lot of free time 
optimized for those 

600
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280
relationships. 
Statistically, the easiest way 

601
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640
to boost your mood that will 
last the longest is by doing an 

602
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,120
act of kindness for someone 
else. 

603
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320
And that is something that's 
probably not going to happen in 

604
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640
a planned way, But you could 
plan to volunteer. 

605
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600
You could plan to help someone 
out with their homework or meet 

606
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,360
with them. 
Even if you're an introvert. 

607
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,520
We not only feel really refueled
and fulfilled by those 

608
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,360
interactions, but they have a 
really strong and lasting impact

609
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,000
on our well-being. 
The statistically happiest 

610
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560
people spend more time in their 
relationships. 

611
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,880
They have more relationships and
they have more filling 

612
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,800
relationships. 
They have stronger and more 

613
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,400
relationships within their 
network. 

614
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,240
So the accumulating positives, 
like if there's one that you're 

615
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,080
going to plan for this week, 
have it be relationship based, 

616
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600
but you can have fun with this. 
Put them on your schedule, keep 

617
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040
things out in your room that 
kind of jog your memory. 

618
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,480
And this does have an impact on 
well-being, even if it's like 

619
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,400
fun and silly little things that
you're accumulating. 

620
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,640
This is also like the dopamine 
menu if you've seen on TikTok or

621
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Instagram, people are like, this
is my dopamine menu. 

622
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Love a dopamine menu. 
This is accumulating positive. 

623
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240
DBT is have this in the book for
ages. 

624
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800
And if you follow downtown 
behavioral Wellness, love her. 

625
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,080
She came on the podcast. 
She also talked about this, 

626
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,960
where this is the DBT scale in 
action. 

627
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
We'd love to see it. 
But accumulating positives is 

628
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
really important and really key 
for that sense of I have good 

629
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,240
things for going for me. 
I have things I'm looking 

630
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,880
forward to and also in the 
moment it boosts your 

631
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,120
well-being, but the benefits are
really threefold. 

632
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,360
And the final part of that is 
when we reflect on our life. 

633
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,480
And so when we're not being 
intentional about accumulating 

634
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720
these positive moments, maybe 
some just happen and you see a 

635
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080
cute dog on your way to class or
you end up having a good 

636
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880
conversation with a friend. 
But we can't guarantee those 

637
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840
things will happen. 
And so when we've planned these 

638
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600
moments and we've accumulated 
them, then when we look back on 

639
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
our day, our week, our month, 
our life, we can't say I have 

640
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,520
nothing going for me. 
Everything sucks. 

641
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,240
I can't think of any positive 
moments. 

642
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,040
So we can look at this list, 
look, these photos we've taken, 

643
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,240
however you're documenting this 
and say, I have done all these 

644
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,400
incredible, amazing things this 
week and these things make me 

645
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,600
happy and these things matter. 
My last coping skill that I'm 

646
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440
going to give you is exposure 
and exposure therapy, which is 

647
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440
kind of a hot topic on social 
media, but we love exposure. 

648
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,160
It's very important for your 
mental health. 

649
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,840
And I wanted to talk about this 
because college especially is 

650
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600
optimized for avoidance. 
If you want to avoid something, 

651
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,480
it is so easy. 
Most classes don't take 

652
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000
attendance. 
You can get away with not fully 

653
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120
doing your assignments. 
You don't have to see anyone. 

654
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,200
You don't have to have a single 
meal with anyone else throughout

655
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
your entire college experience 
if you didn't want to. 

656
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,480
It's not as structured at high 
school, but all of those things 

657
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240
like going to class to have a 
sense of structure, spending 

658
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,000
time with friends, eating meals 
with people, doing your 

659
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480
assignments are really important
not only for your academic 

660
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,560
success, but your personal 
Wellness as well. 

661
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,760
And so when we're avoiding 
things, the way that we overcome

662
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,320
that is exposure and exposure 
therapy. 

663
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,360
And so the idea behind exposure 
therapy is that when we have an 

664
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480
emotion with a negative valence,
maybe it's fear, maybe it's 

665
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920
anxiety, maybe a shame, anger 
might be a reason that you're 

666
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,920
avoiding something. 
But when we're avoiding 

667
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680
something, especially from an 
anxiety perspective, the worst 

668
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360
thing that we can do is avoid 
because the emotion amplifies, 

669
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,000
becomes harder to re enter that 
situation and you're just making

670
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,640
things 1000 times worse for 
yourself. 

671
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280
So anytime you feel that 
voidance of like, I'd rather not

672
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,680
do that thing and of course it's
like run a marathon, I'd rather 

673
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960
not That's OK. 
I give you permission to avoid. 

674
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,200
But these small things that are 
coming from an emotional route 

675
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,400
and that you want to avoid 
because it's uncomfortable, like

676
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040
talking to someone new or 
introducing yourself or asking 

677
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720
for help, go towards those 
things because it will have 

678
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,600
enough positive on your life. 
And so when we do exposure 

679
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,880
therapy, if you have a big thing
that you're avoiding, like say 

680
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,120
you're avoiding making friends, 
say you're avoiding introducing 

681
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960
yourself to a teacher, say you 
have a ton of anxiety about your

682
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final, you're going to make an 
exposure hierarchy. 

683
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So you're going to make a list 
of things that it get 

684
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increasingly a little bit more 
scary until you get to that big 

685
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goal. 
So if you are doing exposure 

686
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,160
therapy to prepare yourself for 
your final exam, the first step 

687
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would be like going to lecture 
when they talk about what to 

688
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
expect for the final exam. 
And then being like, there's two

689
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exams this semester and one 
final. 

690
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
These are the chapters that are 
going to be covered and these 

691
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320
are the dates that's probably 
going to give you a little bit 

692
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,720
of anxiety, but you're going to 
be OK. 

693
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720
You're going to do deep 
breathing, you're going to get 

694
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,880
through it. 
You're going to write down the 

695
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,960
notes and you are going to get 
through that situation. 

696
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,960
Maybe the next thing is going to
office hours and asking your TA,

697
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Hey, I was just wondering like 
what we can expect as far as 

698
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difficulty. 
Are you going to give us review 

699
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800
questions? 
Is there going to be a review 

700
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,600
session? 
And kind of exposing yourself 

701
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
mentally to what to expect now 
as you get closer to the date, 

702
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you're going to do things like 
doing practice questions. 

703
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Maybe you're going to sit in the
room where the exam is going to 

704
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,200
take place. 
Maybe you're going to mentally 

705
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120
imagine yourself taking this 
test and you're going to work 

706
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960
yourself up to this thing that 
makes you really anxious. 

707
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040
And so you could do a more 
structured exposure hierarchy 

708
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,040
like that. 
But really the advice that I 

709
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
want to give any students and 
anyone that's navigating back to

710
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,240
school because it's very anxious
and avoidance your own time, 

711
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680
especially if you're in college,
is when you feel that feeling of

712
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,040
like, I'd rather not, I'd like 
to avoid this is uncomfortable. 

713
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Go towards that thing. 
And maybe you don't go towards 

714
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,000
it today, but tomorrow you start
working yourself up towards it 

715
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,760
because it's one of the best 
things you can do again for your

716
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,520
academic and personal 
well-being. 

717
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,480
So those are my skills. 
We did a little how to plan and 

718
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360
motivate and track your semester
so you actually have that 

719
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,960
awareness to make positive 
changes. 

720
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640
And we did some ABC. 
So accumulating positives, 

721
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680
building mastery and cope ahead 
through really important skills 

722
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
for well-being, especially as a 
student. 

723
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,160
I really hope you guys enjoyed 
this. 

724
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Oh my God, we didn't even talk 
about the fact that it's episode

725
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,280
200. 
Hello. 

726
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,680
That was why we were doing this 
episode is that I asked you guys

727
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,760
on Instagram what you wanted to 
see for episode 200 and you said

728
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,960
back to school advice. 
So here we are. 

729
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640
We did back to school advice, 
but I was so caught up in this 

730
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,800
that I didn't even get to 
accumulate this positive of 200 

731
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,800
episodes. 
I cannot believe it. 

732
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400
It feels like not does not feel 
like yesterday since I started 

733
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480
the podcast because this has 
been so much time and so much 

734
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,640
work. 
I'm so proud of it. 

735
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520
But thank you guys for listening
and tuning in. 

736
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,800
And if you made it to 200, I'm 
so incredibly grateful and I 

737
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680
hope this was helpful. 
That's always the goal. 

738
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,400
But this is a fun little 
milestone to celebrate and 

739
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,120
accumulate as a positive. 
We built some mastery along the 

740
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,840
way, I hope. 
And yeah, this is episode 200. 

741
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,000
I'll see you again at 300. 
Just kidding. 

742
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
I'll see you at 201, but I'm so 
glad that we made it this far. 

743
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,200
It really hoped you guys liked 
this episode and that it was jam

744
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,840
packed with value and just thank
you. 

745
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080
Thank you for 200 episodes. 
I'm so excited. 

746
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,000
I can't even believe I forgot to
talk about that. 

747
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000
This is the thing guys, is that 
I record episodes like 10 in 

748
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,800
advance, except for the solos. 
And so a lot of the times I 

749
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,080
forget where we are with 
numbers, but this is 200. 

750
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720
So celebrate amazing. 
I'm so happy. 

751
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,400
I hope you're happy. 
I hope you enjoyed this episode 

752
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600
and with that revelation, I'll 
see you next week. 

753
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640
And of course, my last always 
have to say share with offender 

754
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640
family member. 
I want to hear your thoughts on 

755
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,880
this episode, if you liked it, 
if you didn't, if you have any 

756
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
more questions. 
So definitely don't hesitate to 

757
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560
reach out. 
And I hope you guys all have the

758
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,640
best back to school season and 
you're going to do great this 

759
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280
semester or trimester or quarter
or whatever your system you're 

760
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,200
on. 
And I'm here for you guys and 

761
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,000
you got this.
