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Welcome to, she persisted, I'm 
your host CD son. 

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Every Friday. 
I post interviews about mental 

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health, dialectical behavioral 
therapy and Teenage life. 

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These episodes break down my 
mental health Journey. 

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Teach skills to help you cope 
with life and showcase 

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testimonials from individuals, 
including teens, just like you. 

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Whether you've struggled 
yourself or just want to improve

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your mental Fitness. 
This podcast is your inspiration

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to live a life, you love and 
keep persisting. 

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This week on she persisted what 
is depression and anxiety. 

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We told in today's narrative 
that they are illnesses, but 

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they not illnesses. 
There's no research to confirm 

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that. 
He's no neurobiological current 

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books or getting in the brain at
chemical imbalances. 

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A theory that has been disproved
multiple times, no scientist and

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top people in Harvard Kings all 
over the world. 

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In top, universities will tell 
you that that is not an 

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acceptable value. 
But yet, that's what the public 

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are given and most doctors will 
tell me patience. 

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You have a chemical imbalance. 
You like, let's fix it with her 

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medication. 
Keep jabbing all. 

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Nice, fix your broken arm, you 
hadn't broken brain, it takes 

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your brain. 
That's the wrong messaging, and 

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it's also the research shows, 
it's actually made things worse.

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This week's DVT scale is turning
the mind. 

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Turning the mind is like facing 
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You have to turn your mind 
towards the acceptance Road in a

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way from the road of rejecting 
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You are choosing to accept the 
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Does not itself equal 
acceptance, but it puts you on 

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the path towards acceptance. 
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rejecting reality. 
So here's the steps. 

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First, you're going to observe 
the fact that you're currently 

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not accepting look for the anger
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Avoiding emotions. 
Those thought processes that are

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like, why me why is this 
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I can't stand this. 
It shouldn't be this way. 

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You get the point. 
Next, you're going to go within 

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yourself and make an inner 
commitment to accept reality as 

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it is. 
There are you're going to do it 

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again over and over and over 
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turning your mind to accept 
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Time, when you come to the fork 
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reality or choose to accept it. 
Lastly, you're going to develop 

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a plan of catching yourself in 
the future when you drift out of

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acceptance, whatever that means 
for you, this is not an easy 

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skill. 
It's one that takes a really 

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long time to master and it's 
costly something that you're 

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continuously doing. 
It's not like you're doing deep 

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breathing one time, and then you
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you're revisiting turning the 
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Every single time you feel 
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So it's a great practice and 
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but it's a, Again, an ongoing 
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it can have a huge benefit. 
So with that, let's dive into 

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the episode. 
Hello? 

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Hello. 
And welcome to. 

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She persisted. 
If you're new here, I'm so happy

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you're here. 
Make sure you head over to 

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Persisted podcast, send me a DM 

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If you are a returning listener.

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Welcome back. 
I have an amazing episode for 

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you today, and I know you're 
going to love it. 

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Today's guest is dr. 
Caroline leaf. 

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And this is one of literally my 
favorite interviews that I've 

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ever. 
Done. 

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She is just an absolutely 
phenomenal, clinician 

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individual. 
She has her own podcast, we'll 

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get more into her in a minute, 
but no matter where you are at 

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in your journey or supporting 
someone on their Journey, this 

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episode is going to bring you so
much value, and I can't wait. 

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It is almost Thanksgiving. 
I'm recording this episode the 

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night before. 
It's going to go live and I just

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wanted to put a little reminder,
in the intro to put your mental 

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health. 
First this week we can't help 

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others unless we help. 
Up ourselves first. 

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And I think that goes for any 
interaction, if we're not taking

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care of our own mental health, 
we're not going to be able to 

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validate others and offer 
support and resources, were 

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going to be irritable, and it's 
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especially for me this week, 
with family time, with going 

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home from college, that's 
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Is making sure that my mental 
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its best spot so that I can show
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relationships. 
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reminder to put your mental 
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what makes you Feel good and 
show up as your best self so 

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that you can give that version 
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This week as things are more 
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So happy early Thanksgiving. 
I hope you have a wonderful week

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and let's get into this week's 
guest today. 

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I am interviewing dr. 
Caroline Leaf, she is a 

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communication pathologist and 
cognitive neuroscientist with a 

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masters and PhD in 
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And she also has her Bachelor's 
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So, she Specializes in cognitive
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neuropsychology. 
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researched the mind brain 
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The nature of mental health, in 
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She was one of the first people 
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brain can change also known as 
neuroplasticity, which we dive 

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into and so much depth. 
So, if you're like, what the 

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heck is that? 
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I got you covered. 
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then how it applies to things 
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and Trauma. 
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episode. 
She's also the best-selling 

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author of switch on your brain 
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Succeed and thinking eat 
yourself smart as well as many 

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other books. 
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from various guest on the 
podcast that have said, there's 

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some of their favorite reads and
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So she's just an absolutely 
amazing author and clinician the

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other way that you might 
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host of cleaning up the mental 
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It's a top charts, mental health
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It's an amazing resource and all
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show notes. 
So if you enjoyed this 

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conversation, make sure that you
head over to her podcast so you 

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can continue to consume your 
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About your mental health and 
cleaning up the mental Mass, 

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which we dive into in a really 
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So all the ways that you can 
connect with Dr. Leaf will be in

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today's show notes but if you 
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her handles at Dr. Caroline 
leaf? 

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And her website is Dr? 
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linked in the show notes, don't 
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but if you want to give her a 
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you can do it. 
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you love this interview and 
learn so much from it just like 

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I did in this. 
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dive into it. 
Thank you so much dr. 

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Lee for joining me today on to 
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I'm so excited to have you here 
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conversation. 
Thank you Sadie. 

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And I'm very, very excited to 
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what you doing. 
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doing. 
It's a so necessary to important

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seem to you seem to yell. 
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setting a foundation for 
listeners and talking about what

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neural plasticity is and your 
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I think it's difficult to kind 
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Behaviors and thoughts, and all 
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about neuroplasticity. 
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that connects to mental health. 
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Okay. 
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ability of the mind to change 
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dust in the, in the deformation,
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the brain are secret. 
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that many people have or here, 
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that the mind is the brain, but 
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which says, Your mind is your 
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makes you do it. 
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the message is that you've got 
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and it's just waiting. 
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they life happens and the 
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manifest. 
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a label and a treatment and a 
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works. 
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I've just described has been 
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actually 100, but very strongly 
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the Last 40, 50 years has also 
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and it's been a disaster. 
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It's exacerbated the problem. 
It's made it worse and there's 

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more suicides. 
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everything. 
I've just been writing a journal

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article on this this morning for
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So neuroplasticity is the 
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our mind we can actually change 
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So the brain is never the same, 
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So, right now it's changing at 
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because of your mind, if I had a
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Next Me that person's brain 
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the fact that we are alive and 
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viewers and listeners. 
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the technology, I used to in 
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I use for my research, we would 
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side of your brain and response 
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So, neuroplasticity means that 
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our mind. 
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That means that what is online? 
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And the answer is, yes, and 
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maybe the next questions or 
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direct the changes and that's so
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changes will manifest in our 
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Our communication would be 
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So life happens or mind 
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brain changes, and the week, I 
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Protestant in a moment. 
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or communication. 
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childhood or pets. 
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processed into the brain and 
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way. 
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the brain and the body work 
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symptoms and it doesn't mean 
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there is a drain disease. 
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something going on and you have 
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So neuroplasticity, wonderful 
aspect that you can actually 

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tune into your behaviors in this
way to these four signals and we

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can talk about how to do that. 
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But you can tune into your 
patterns and your signals and 

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become like a sought to 
detective, literally and change 

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your brain back and you re 
reorder it and rewire it and 

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that obviously takes time 
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But that's also promoted Ester 
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So it's a really, it's crazy to 
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Kind of hurts your brain. 
If they whoa, like the the 

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amount of change and how much 
potential there is there, but 

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it's no one can think. 
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unchangeable or this experience 
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that's not possible. 
Things are constantly changing. 

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clarify before we dive into, 
specifically, depression and 

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anxiety, and changing the mind. 
There is detoxing the brain. 

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about. 
So what does that mean to detox 

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your brain or your mind? 
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cleaning up the mental mess and 
I talked about the fact that we 

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can clean it up because if I 
divide, that we are actually 

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empowered to do that, and what 
that means is that we are going 

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to be had toxic Experiences, 
adverse experiences, whatever 

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they are. 
Whether it's a persistent stuff 

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happening in childhood early, 
adolescence etcetera of the 

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pandemic, whatever it is, that 
is has everything experience. 

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You have good, good bad and ugly
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mind and basically, anything 
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immune system to try and fix 
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straight into survival and that 
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reactions to your body, right, 
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your life. 
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depression which is just one 
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It's not a cure disease, 
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with behaviors and perspective. 
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fear for different types of 
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So the pattern to the The 
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change in your brain and so 
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process of looking at what is 
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I'm feeling excessively anxious 
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looking deeper what is that it 
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the root cause? 
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processing and 
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So deconstructing and 
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change what's happened to you 
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change what's in you because 
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It gets wide until In any to the
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going to go into your brain and 
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over here. 
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experience. 
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experience. 
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the brain, we literally want to 
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into these. 
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Looks like becomes a tree in 
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This is the change in your 
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growing these inside your brain 
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proteins detox. 
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these tuning into them and then 
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Like they've got a root, you 
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out of a weed, out of the 
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it will grow. 
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So you have spent the last 38 
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funnily enough. 
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change. 
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lecture and after all 
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giving us, that lecture said, oh
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when people have had any kind of
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brain injury or a sports injury.
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patients to compensate. 
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kind of be, right? 
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I, every moment of the day is 
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because experience is changing 
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neuroplasticity research, back 
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There's a Ted Talk on. 
I did, I did a Ted Talk on the 

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Sun. 
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neuroplasticity, but It's awful.
Because what it does is it tells

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you and I and anyone who's 
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By the way, isn't anyone? 
Who isn't that thing? 

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Sometimes it gets worse in your 
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very tough and this adverse 
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it's okay to be messy. 
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the mess and cleaning up the 
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So detoxing the brain is this 
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That's okay to making this. 
That's not who I am. 

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It's coming because of let's 
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reconstructed into something 
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not against. 
It's crazy how far we've come. 

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I came from a psychology lecture
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neuroplasticity and how the 

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brain is constantly changing and
during your critical period, 

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it's so important for these 
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changes, then you're less able 
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So it's insane how much we're 
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and how things are changing and 
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belief that the brain is 
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It was this recently. 
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It's only since then that he's 
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technology that people have 
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changes in the brain. 
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did my research in the late 80s,
early 90s, it was totally new to

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talk about mr. 
Satti. 

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I had neurologist saying oh it 
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scientist and at that stage 
Neuroscience was in its infancy.

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Yeah saying. 
Oh well that can't happen. 

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You just lucky and then it's 
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pits, thousands of people. 
It's not lucky. 

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It's a medical miracle, is it? 
Ya like it, sir. 

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It's the reality, it's how we 
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And to understand that you 
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and brain and the difference 
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there's also been a lot of 
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the, I don't know what they 
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you, and hopefully, they're 
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research, but you you're not 
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They are critical periods for 
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on a certain period, it doesn't 
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Doesn't set up the rest of your 
life in a - tone you can 

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actually catch up your brain. 
Why rewires it never stops? 

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It's doing it at 400 billion 
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rest of your life. 
So you're right. 

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Can always be changed. 
Whatever's happened to you 

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doesn't matter what age, what 
stage, how far you can change 

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your brain, the brain can change
itself. 

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getting rid of like bad trees, 
if you're using that metaphor 

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again, is that rewiring a 
thought pattern? 

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Is it changing? 
It Behavior. 

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Are you working to shift 
emotions? 

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What exactly are you doing? 
I'm going to explain what that 

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is. 
So let's Sweet sometimes 

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psychology can be very confusing
because it shows lots of words 

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around. 
So let me break down the whole 

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process so he has a brain and in
ask outside of real one, for 

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your listeners are not holding a
real brain is just a moment, 

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just pulled it off or Dusk and 
off my desk. 

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I did used to have a real brain 
in a jar and everything, but 

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this is a little easier to. 
Okay. 

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So essentially this is not your 
mind and I have another model 

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here it is. 
And the Muslim coming up now is 

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your typical. 
You would have seen this all 

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over the place and doctors 
offices and so on. 

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This is a brain and a body. 
So this is not your mind, 

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neither of these are your mind 
because if you were dead as I 

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already said, they would just be
disintegrating. 

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But as you sitting here, 
listening to me, your mind is a 

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very is stimulating these to 
actually respond. 

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So your aliveness is your mind. 
So your mind is the driving 

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force. 
That actually makes your brain 

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in your body work and so 
therefore if therefore that's 

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the case, if we have a messy 
mind and unmanaged mind, we're 

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going to send a an unmanaged 
signals through the brain of the

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body and that's going to create 
a mess in the brain and the 

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body. 
So, I'll conversation right now.

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We're talking as we started up. 
As you would have set this up, 

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you would have put in the show 
notes. 

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You would have had a title, that
could be like the sea. 

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So we take a plant and you think
if you're growing a tree, you 

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plant the seed. 
So the title of the podcast, 

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think of it as being the seat as
we started speaking and our back

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and forth and his arm onto your 
questions and explaining. 

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That is all electromagnetic 
sound waves, electromagnetic 

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life. 
Nice little coming at you. 

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The visuals I'm holding up all 
of that is coming at you. 

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It's coming from my mind through
my brain, to you your, as 

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electromagnetic light waves, 
Etc. 

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Your mind grabs that because 
your mind is actually an 

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electronic electromagnetic 
energy force. 

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It's a gravitational field and 
it's all around you and it's 

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through you a dead person. 
Doesn't have that. 

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For example, if I put a qeeg on 
you and I now we would see 

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energetic, rooty energy, the 
different frequencies of the 

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brain. 
If he did a stick scam, you 

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would see oxygen in MRI we if 
you didn't EKG in other words 

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that we would see response, but 
if we did that on a dead person 

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who wouldn't see response. 
So the mind is that, aliveness 

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that response that we see. 
So this conversation the seed 

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was, as a person, read the title
of the podcast then. 

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Actually, speaking, all these 
sound waves in grabbed by your 

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mind and they've been built into
the root system of this of the 

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street. 
So the roots are the source of 

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the information will And then, 
as soon as you build it, because

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half of this is happening at 
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inconceivable in our particular 
and unconscious mind, which is 

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not unconscious, it's not the 
subconscious, it's the 

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unconscious inner in. 
So, all of that stuff, is the 

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root system everything that I'm 
saying and then immediately at 

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the same time you uniquely 
interpret what I'm saying? 

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And that's these watches. 
So the branches above the ground

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or the interpretation of the 
source input, your That's 

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different to your listeners, to 
every listener that you have. 

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So you have 500 listeners to the
show is 500 different 

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interpretations of what I'm 
saying, and all of them are 

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correct because all our do own 
unique interpretation. 

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So this what I've just described
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the product of the mind. 
So when we talk about 

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neuroplasticity, which we did 
and we talked about changing the

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brain, what we're doing is we're
talking about the thought being 

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built into the brain. 
And the change is that you These

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trees, they grow on the neurons 
in the brain and they feed by 

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the glial cells which would have
all don't about in Psychology to

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a growth to this. 
Particularly the this whole 

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system over here is going to 
grow on the dendrites so 

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different that as a neurons 
connect, you have a synapse in 

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the brain and that's something 
memories grow. 

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It's just where you have the 
initial contact in the initial 

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short-term phase of the memory, 
but their actual above the cell 

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body. 
You've got that Branch also 

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growing out of the highwomen. 
Head, if you think of a head and

456
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000
hair growing out of the head, 
that's where these are growing. 

457
00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:32,100
So, these are made of proteins 
and the, and the neuroplasticity

458
00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:35,600
is that you take your, you 
taking my words and energy goes 

459
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,100
in the brain. 
As soon as it shows up in the 

460
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:40,300
brain, the brain is then 
responding, electromagnetic, and

461
00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,600
candy cane genetically, and you 
make protein. 

462
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,300
So you actually growing proteins
and those proteins arrange 

463
00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:48,600
themselves into trees. 
So, these trees of thoughts and 

464
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,000
the thoughts he made of 
memories. 

465
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,900
So, thoughts are not the same as
memories as much. 

466
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:54,800
As mind is not the same as 
Great. 

467
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:59,400
So mind works through the brain 
and the body and bold trees 

468
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,100
stimulates the building of 
trees. 

469
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,500
So these are made of proteins 
and they're growing on the 

470
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:05,100
dangerous. 
So that's what neuroplasticity 

471
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,800
looks like. 
So thought is the product of the

472
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600
mind and the thought contains 
memories. 

473
00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:14,900
So, so one thought can have like
at the end of this conversation,

474
00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:17,100
you're going to have both 
probably close to two thousand 

475
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,300
branches route, what I'm saying?
Interpretation how you 

476
00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:23,000
interpreted? 
So that's a lot of memory. 

477
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,900
So this particular thought Tree 
of this conversation, may have 

478
00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:29,900
up to 1,000 2,000 memories in it
so when you bring this thought 

479
00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:32,600
up into the conscious mind 
through the subconscious, it's 

480
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,000
not just going to bring up one 
thing. 

481
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,300
It brings up the concept which 
is in the name of the tree and 

482
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:40,000
then all the details still 
coming up. 

483
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,900
Okay. 
So how is this significant? 

484
00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,700
That's a healthy tree. 
He has toxic tree. 

485
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,400
Also branches also the roots and
so same process. 

486
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,700
Let's say now that you get 
bullied at school or you have a 

487
00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:53,000
terribly abusive childhood or 
whatever. 

488
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,200
There's all the Things that can 
happen to us, the adversity, 

489
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,800
that is going to be received by 
the mind. 

490
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:01,400
All these energetic fields and 
everything. 

491
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,500
And psychologically, the mind is
how we think and feel and 

492
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:10,100
choose, you're asking what 
feeling is, if you think and 

493
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,500
feel and choose to build these 
thoughts. 

494
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:16,300
And these thoughts are built of 
what the product of thinking, 

495
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:20,300
feeling, and choosing so 
emotions are actually memory 

496
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:23,400
data. 
Okay, emotional memory data. 

497
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,700
So emotions are Inside there and
inside Thee. 

498
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,900
I think it was the source. 
This is what happened and this 

499
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:31,800
is the interpretation of what 
happened. 

500
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:35,100
So it totally makes you think of
that scene inside out, where all

501
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,600
the different memories are 
tagged with each emotion and 

502
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,500
then categorized and logged into
the long-term memory. 

503
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,900
But you still remember what each
emotion was. 

504
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,800
It actually took their 
responsibilities to manager Yeti

505
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,300
because you have subject, that's
very good. 

506
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,800
It's a very good example. 
Because if you think of it, 

507
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,400
there's a multitude of 
experiences that we have it. 

508
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,200
You you have the same memory 
tags like that will. 

509
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,000
You said, but these thousand 
things that can make you said 

510
00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:02,100
the said is not in its own, its 
emotion attached to data, so 

511
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,900
that's why we have inside. 
This will be the emotion 

512
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:07,000
attached to the. 
It's an emotional day at 

513
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,900
attached to the actual. 
What happened? 

514
00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:11,300
That's the, what happened in 
this is how you process, what 

515
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:12,900
happened. 
So this is some kind of the 

516
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,500
coping. 
So let's say that this is an 

517
00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,900
abuse and its role. 
It repeated, sexual abuse, for 

518
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:20,300
example, from maybe a family 
friend or something like that, 

519
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:24,200
or a parent or whatever bad, you
know, whatever that process. 

520
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:27,700
Seeing of that that's going to 
be think field, choose, you're 

521
00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,600
going to as you experiencing 
that you're going to be thinking

522
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,000
feeling choosing, so all that is
built into here. 

523
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,900
The experience and then you're 
thinking feeding choosing is the

524
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:38,400
interpretation of that to and 
interpretation of here, there's 

525
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,400
going to be memory data is going
to be all the things that 

526
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,000
happened and the interpretation 
here says. 

527
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,700
Oh I'm bad or worthless or must 
have done something wrong. 

528
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:52,300
Meanwhile you totally innocent. 
So this and then gets distorted 

529
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,200
so that's distorted so that's 
distorted. 

530
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:58,200
And because that's counter to 
our natural wiring, which we 

531
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,300
actually wired for healthy 
people. 

532
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400
Love that scientists talk about 
provide for these this is 

533
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,500
distorted so it's not going to 
tell me the truth. 

534
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,100
You're not going to see the 
truth about yourself and that 

535
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,000
all that then produces what you 
say and what you do. 

536
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,200
So this will produce problems in
relationships and if it's 

537
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200
suppressed, it will produce an 
excessive levels of depression 

538
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,300
and anxiety and was doing, and I
hate life and Suicidal Thoughts,

539
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,800
etc, etc. 
This produces that because this 

540
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,700
is it. 
Toxic and so, so to summarize, 

541
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,800
that's the thought it's a 
product made of proteins and 

542
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000
that's the neuroplasticity 
change. 

543
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:36,800
We use our mind to experience. 
And you take that experience, 

544
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,800
me, put it into the brain and 
abilities or mind is how we 

545
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,900
think and feel and choose. 
So, as you think feel and 

546
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,900
choose, we build are thinking, 
feeling and choosing into these 

547
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:49,100
trees, the squad is the source 
and this part is our 

548
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,400
interpretation. 
So of thinking, feeling and 

549
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,800
choosing in this case is 
distorted because those Sex or 

550
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,100
distorted the whole toxic. 
It may see where is this would 

551
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,700
be more accurate. 
These would be healthy healthy 

552
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:04,000
interpretation versus K. 
So that's the thought made of 

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800
the memories and the emotions 
are inside of yet. 

554
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,700
Attached to the data, the 
specifics of this memory. 

555
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,800
So these would be all distorted 
emotions anger, frustration 

556
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,000
hatred self, hatred fear. 
This, I mean, it's thousands and

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,600
thousands of emotions and they 
would be attached to the data of

558
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,800
what happened and interpretation
inside of it. 

559
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,100
But then they A sense. 
Yeah, so in practice if you're 

560
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:30,500
experiencing a distortion 
whether it's a thought that's 

561
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,300
not necessarily accurate that 
you're not good enough. 

562
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:36,000
Not loved all of these things. 
How exactly would you shift 

563
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,300
that? 
Because again it is a distortion

564
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:40,600
it's not accurate and it's 
impacting this whole process. 

565
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,100
What are you doing there to 
rewire that? 

566
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,900
Okay so excellent question. 
So here is the cause it's in 

567
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:51,200
your brain can handle it now and
maybe taking repeatedly and you 

568
00:26:51,208 --> 00:26:53,100
don't always know the roots. 
This is very often because we 

569
00:26:53,108 --> 00:26:55,200
suppress it sometimes. 
Just about those. 

570
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,300
Another one of my questions is 
like, I would wake up and feel 

571
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,700
depressed, but being able to 
identify, why was so difficult 

572
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,600
day we go. 
So it's very often because you 

573
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,200
had accumulated too much 
overtime and because it's so 

574
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:08,700
strong that when your child and 
you trust your character and 

575
00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:11,700
your trust adults or whatever in
your life that or whatever. 

576
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,800
However, there's so many 
different ways we can experience

577
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,400
trauma but your child you to do 
trusting it so distorted. 

578
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,100
So it doesn't, there's no sense 
to it. 

579
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,700
So you just try and cope. 
So this whole this part over 

580
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,900
here is trying to make sense of 
this. 

581
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000
And then this becomes distorted.
So the whole thing's distorted 

582
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,900
to very often it's suppressed 
and it comes out in early early 

583
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,900
childhood trauma very often when
he comes out in adolescence and 

584
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:37,400
over the years it build. 
So it can start off with a 

585
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000
child, be more withdrawn and 
certain behavioral symptoms. 

586
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,100
And then, you know, then very 
often kids are very good at 

587
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:46,400
masking for a period of time, 
but they're not adolescence and 

588
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:50,700
18, 19, 20 BC. 
The more severe the complex, the

589
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:55,200
trauma and the more to being 
suppressed by between. 24. 

590
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,700
It's like you can't do brain. 
Just can't keep it in anymore. 

591
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,700
It explodes and that you miss 
major depression, major anxiety 

592
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,500
in a severe way. 
It's still not an illness and we

593
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,100
need to talk about that but it's
become so severe that 

594
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,600
debilitating and if you just 
treat that as though it's an 

595
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,400
illness, a symptom of an illness
you never going to find the root

596
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,600
cause. 
So you need that, you do not 

597
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,000
going to really manage it. 
It's going to give you energy 

598
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
you and in the drugs numb your 
brain and Anissa times your 

599
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000
brains, you still not dealing 
with it so that doesn't help. 

600
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,100
So these produce the behavior. 
So what we want to do is to do 

601
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,700
to fix this, is we have to look 
at the patterns in our life and 

602
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,700
I referred to this earlier on. 
So the most obvious pattern is 

603
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
those very strong emotions. 
Like, depression, and anxiety. 

604
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,700
Now, what is depression and 
anxiety, we told in today's 

605
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,900
narrative that there are 
illnesses, but they're not 

606
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:47,100
illnesses, there's no research 
to confirm that. 

607
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,900
There's no neurobiological 
correlates or getting in the 

608
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:52,800
brain. 
It chemical imbalances, a theory

609
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,700
that has been disproved Four 
times, no, scientist and top 

610
00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,600
people in Harvard Kings all over
the world. 

611
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,900
In top, universities will tell 
you that that is not an 

612
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,400
acceptable view. 
But yet that's what the monthly 

613
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,900
the public are given and most 
doctors will tell their 

614
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,200
patients. 
So you have a chemical 

615
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800
imbalance, you like let's fix it
with their medication. 

616
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,400
Fix your broken arm, you haven't
broken frame, it's fix your 

617
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,400
brain. 
That's the wrong messaging and 

618
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,800
it's also the research shows. 
It's actually make things worse,

619
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,200
as I mentioned, so, well in the 
beginning. 

620
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:23,500
So what you got to do is 
recognize that you can't 

621
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:28,000
actually Have depression you 
experienced oppression and 

622
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,400
because depression is not an 
illness, it is actually an 

623
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,800
emotional warning signal, okay? 
So you need to act for don't 

624
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400
become like a thought to tector 
where you looking for Clues. 

625
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,900
So, you're a thought, detective,
you're an archaeologist, you 

626
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,400
become a brain surgeon and your 
engine whirring. 

627
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,100
You try to put all the pieces of
your life together, so you're 

628
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,300
kind of drawing on all those 
skills and we are capable of 

629
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:54,100
doing that. 
So we cut we we stay. 

630
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:57,800
To what I call the wise mind and
we've all got that because we 

631
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,400
see that in our psycho 
neurobiology, which is a 

632
00:30:00,408 --> 00:30:03,900
mind-body connection at the 
actually wired for love, which 

633
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:07,200
means you don't have any 
structures for toxicity forbus. 

634
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,400
So soon as we have the brain, 
the immune system rejects. 

635
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,700
He's like a reject, covid, 
virus, or any virus. 

636
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,000
So these give these stimulate an
immune response. 

637
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,900
Like I saw my research will get 
a high homocysteine levels which

638
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,300
shows inflammation, which shows 
that there's an immune response 

639
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:25,200
you've got T cells out there 
working and The longer, you keep

640
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,900
the suppress the issue, the more
T cells. 

641
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,400
For example, you'll have in 
place in the more side you'll 

642
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,500
get cytokines storms. 
And so, all the things that you 

643
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,500
hear with the language of 
covert, you get the same kind of

644
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,700
thing happening with your 
thoughts, because there is real 

645
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600
esker, but they made of proteins
that in your brain. 

646
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,900
So, they create a mess. 
But not only are they in your 

647
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:46,800
brain? 
Is these protein true things? 

648
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,100
These thoughts of memories, they
also in every cell of your body.

649
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200
So as you experience something, 
and now we're going to be going 

650
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000
to get to the heart. 
As you as you experience, that 

651
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,100
toxicity in bolted into brain 
immediately, it is built into 

652
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,900
every cell of your body. 
And that's how we have body made

653
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,500
me so medic memory. 
That's why things like EMDR work

654
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000
and ryoga. 
And when we tune into our body, 

655
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,600
because it's in the brain, and 
it's in the body in every cell. 

656
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,700
So as you are loot, hearing this
podcast. 

657
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,100
Now, talking, you are actually 
putting this information into 

658
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,200
every cell of your body in 
addition to your brain. 

659
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,700
So it's building here and these 
are genetic change in every 

660
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:26,300
city. 
The 37 to 100 trillion cells 

661
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,800
that we have in our brain and 
our body or also storing this as

662
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600
a change in your Gene code and 
its interpretation of fields 

663
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,100
that are all around and through 
you. 

664
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,500
So you think of luck with you? 
Look at the you think, also, you

665
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:40,600
know, it's got little lines that
go that's sort of the nice 

666
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,300
analogy to think of what the 
thought looks like in the brain 

667
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:44,500
and the mind. 
Sorry. 

668
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,200
So in the brain, it's a tree in 
the body, it's a change in your 

669
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,200
DNA. 
And in the, in the mind, it's 

670
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,000
those little white Fields, even 
they're healthy. 

671
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,300
So what it's going to be better,
the brain, good positive change 

672
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,800
in your Gene, code, in every 
cell and it's going to be a 

673
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,200
healthy flow in the little 
gravitational fields, 

674
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,800
electromagnetic fields, the 
mind. 

675
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,700
But if it's toxic, it's the 
opposite sensitivity rice floats

676
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,700
and Krazy K. 
So that energy is hitting the 

677
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,700
brain and the body and 
everything right down to the 

678
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,600
level of community is being 
affected. 

679
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800
So for example, you're telling 
me as I don't know, if you know 

680
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,100
what telomeres on enemy is or if
you think of the DNA, the DNA 

681
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,800
strand and you can pull Turns 
out of the in a chromosome looks

682
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,400
like an X and my fingernails 
would be the would be the 

683
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
telomeres. 
So chromosome looks like an X 

684
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,500
and the ends of chromosomes have
things called telomeres. 

685
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:37,700
Now, those telomeres are working
with are basically a proxy for 

686
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,700
how you are managing your mind. 
And so, if you did nothing 

687
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,100
happens with your telomeres, 
we've been you alive, your 

688
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,600
telomeres are involved in, 
making it about a million new 

689
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,000
cells. 
If we second mean, over time, 

690
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,700
basically replacing our entire 
brain and body over time. 

691
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:57,900
So if the A healthy and long and
strong, you build healthy cells,

692
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,600
which means healthy organs, 
which means a healthy system. 

693
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,500
But if you are amazed and not 
managing and suppress thoughts 

694
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,300
and not detoxing those telomeres
get very weak and that themes 

695
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,700
create cells, that are unhealthy
and therefore, overtime, 

696
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,300
cumulatively, your body becomes 
weak and vulnerable to disease. 

697
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,600
So, you have, you have 
suppressed thoughts, doing that 

698
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,500
at the DNA level and you have 
these things in your brain and 

699
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,700
your brain getting damaged and 
your immune system going. 

700
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,500
Crazy. 
And you know, all these things 

701
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,800
are accumulating. 
You've got this toxic energy 

702
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800
moving from your mind through 
your body, that doesn't bode 

703
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,000
well and that's if you think of 
it like that that's very 

704
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,500
consuming. 
It's like that mind that mind is

705
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:42,100
driving the whole process. 
Then is 99-92 99% of who you 

706
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,700
are. 
So when I say you con have 

707
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:48,700
depression, I'm not belittling. 
I'm making a making it as well 

708
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:51,700
as I'm giving it the attention. 
It deserves because that 

709
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:56,300
depression is AB your mind. 
Brain and body screaming at you 

710
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:01,400
to say, hey, wake up. 
Listen, tuned in you aren't 

711
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,500
depression, you're depressed 
because of. 

712
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
So in other words, there's a 
message in the depression that 

713
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,500
depression is your Norm Bell. 
Going off saying, embrace it, 

714
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,600
embrace it and look deep inside,
okay? 

715
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,600
And then I'm going to explain 
how so don't see depression or 

716
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,000
anxiety or any emotion as an 
illness know emotions are 

717
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,900
illnesses, passion and 
depression or We as important, 

718
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:26,300
they're both telling you 
something. 

719
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000
The passion is telling you that 
you're on a track to some 

720
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,800
wonderful feeling and 
relationship, whatever the 

721
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,300
depression is saying that, hey, 
you've got something missing you

722
00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:37,100
up in you to pay attention and 
because of neuroplasticity you 

723
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,000
can change where that's coming 
from because that depression is 

724
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,900
coming from one of these. 
So this thing is sending signals

725
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,199
from the no unconscious Mind 
through the subconscious, which 

726
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,000
is a bridge between an 
unconscious into the conscious 

727
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,699
mind and as soon as it hits the 
conscious mind and you pay 

728
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:57,200
attention to it, Okay, I'm 
feeling very depressed and then 

729
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,600
you're going to soon as you do 
that. 

730
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,700
This thing starts coming up from
the unconscious to the conscious

731
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,000
and we see from Neuroscience 
that, when you become aware of 

732
00:35:04,008 --> 00:35:06,700
these, they start shaking and 
becoming malleable. 

733
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,800
And when they become available 
you can change them. 

734
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:10,100
Okay. 
So here's how it works and I've 

735
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,000
got an app called the neuro 
cycle. 

736
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,400
Can you, recycle, we are 
literally give you syrupy 

737
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,500
teaching you how to do this. 
I'm going to give you the brief 

738
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,100
overview and then I've got I 
don't know which book you've 

739
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,400
read, but this is my most recent
book. 

740
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:23,900
We are also explained everything
talking about it depth. 

741
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,800
Super easy to follow the second 
half. 

742
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,900
Is that is the neuro cycle neuro
something, which is the system 

743
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,500
of developed over 38 years of 
research and clinical 

744
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,200
application, and patience and 
whatever. 

745
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,500
And I use it myself, this is not
just to give you. 

746
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:38,500
This is for everyone. 
If you want to go to my, not 

747
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,700
just if you in extreme 
depression, this is to manage 

748
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,000
day-to-day stuff, too. 
So, it's the big stuff and the 

749
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,100
small stuff, the second half 
that books, got this, exact, how

750
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,000
to? 
And then I also have a podcast, 

751
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,900
cooking your meat from this, 
which I definitely want to 

752
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:53,500
invite you on to, where I 
explain all of these things as 

753
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:55,000
well. 
You know subjects. 

754
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,300
Okay. 
So what do you want to do? 

755
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,200
What I've shown from the 
research is that you are able 

756
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,400
with your mind to get from your 
messy mind into a wise mind. 

757
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,900
And the easiest way is to tell 
my patients get to cheese. 

758
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,200
Put them next to each other and 
sucking both Chase but obviously

759
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
considering both but you in what
have used to Maci mind? 

760
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
What have you see wise mind? 
The wise mind is working with 

761
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,800
the miss you, Mike. 
Now we get so caught up in a 

762
00:36:18,808 --> 00:36:22,300
mess if you don't listen to her 
wisdom and the way the world 

763
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:26,000
works and all the social media, 
Very often Identity or wisdom, 

764
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:30,000
or in a call this wired for love
nature, it's short. 

765
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,800
And that's we suicidal ideation 
society. 

766
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,100
And comes in when you feel 
hopeless, when you feel about 

767
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,500
valued, when you just, why is 
this happening to me? 

768
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:42,800
Makes no sense frightening and 
unfortunately jeans here, which 

769
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,600
you part of is the most 
medicator generation and the 

770
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,300
generation that is primed to 
Die. 

771
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:52,800
The youngest of in years in 
decades, which is terrible. 

772
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,400
So the child, if they don't 
change, The situation then Z is 

773
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,300
going to die younger than you're
going to die way younger than 

774
00:36:58,300 --> 00:36:59,800
your grandparents. 
Even, you know, you're not going

775
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,000
to release it that predict sort 
of life span is maybe 60 65 when

776
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,300
you should lose their yeah. 
Like, 25 years off but me, the 

777
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:09,200
kind of thing that you doing 
that I'm doing having these 

778
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,700
discussions podcast. 
This is making people more aware

779
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:15,000
because it doesn't have to be. 
And the reason people are dying 

780
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600
younger, is because of what I 
was saying earlier, these things

781
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,000
mess up your health of your 
body. 

782
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,900
Those telomere things, if your 
body is getting progressively 

783
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:25,600
weaker, then you're going to get
Sicker and your chance of dying 

784
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,600
younger exist. 
So we had subjects and the good 

785
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600
news is enough. 
And I've put these in here of 

786
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800
certain of my subjects in my 
clinical trial, and in my 

787
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,900
patients of the years, they buy 
it. 

788
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,600
They were so depressed at the 
biology was like, a sickly 60 65

789
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000
year old, and they were only 30 
now, you can imagine. 

790
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,900
If you, you 18, if your body was
three years, older, let's say 

791
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:49,100
that you had a 50-50 or old sick
body, you wouldn't be feeling 

792
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:53,000
very great and you will, you've 
kind of lost 30, 35 years or 25 

793
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
years. 
So if you don't care, Initial 

794
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,500
within nine weeks of mine 
management using the neuro cycle

795
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,100
and a neck. 
I didn't give them therapy. 

796
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
They did it themselves on that. 
They didn't go to a therapist. 

797
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:06,300
This isn't how we have in us 
that you go to therapy. 

798
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,100
I'm not anti therapy, it's 
fantastic. 

799
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,600
But it's vitally important that,
you know, how to manage your own

800
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,700
mind. 
You don't just have to wait for 

801
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:15,500
the expert to tell you. 
That's why I have done this work

802
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,600
with the books, you know, got 
the app so that you can do this 

803
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,500
stuff. 
So, and what is the stack to do?

804
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,900
It's the neuropsych, and what is
the neuropsychological? 

805
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,900
Well, it's five step system that
you do daily for around 15 

806
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,200
minutes to 45 Max, where you 
take that pattern, whatever it 

807
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,000
is. 
And you are going to do. 

808
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,800
You're going to basically Rican,
deconstructed, reconstructed. 

809
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,400
So you're going to find this 
thing, you're going to put it up

810
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,400
and you're going to fold it 
into. 

811
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,300
This doesn't mean that the toxic
issue goes away, but it just 

812
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,200
means and how I'm going to use 
this little Stone. 

813
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,700
That's the issue. 
It's now been we conceptualized 

814
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,600
into the. 
So it's now you now know what 

815
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,900
happened to you but you've 
changed how to playing out in 

816
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:58,000
The first thing to do is to look
at what is the pattern in your 

817
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
life. 
So what is the dominant pattern 

818
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,500
in your life like you consumed 
with depression? 

819
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,600
You find it like it's just 
dominating everything. 

820
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,000
Or are you constantly anxious or
are you to talk with emotion? 

821
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,300
What are the emotional? 
Warning signals depression, 

822
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,800
anxiety, frustration irritation.
And it's normally a bunch of 

823
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,600
them but just maybe start with 
you know, like what is the, what

824
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,900
is the main sort of emotional 
scene from that try and see if 

825
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:23,900
you can label. 
What is my pet? 

826
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,400
I packing is that. 
I'm so depressed that I'm 

827
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,300
betting at the school were 
combating, to be motivated and 

828
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,600
then I'm just not happy. 
So, that's the name of the tree,

829
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,300
okay? 
So let's say that you just like,

830
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,300
like, you just feel sad all the 
time, that's the name of the 

831
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,000
tree. 
So to get to this tree, we have 

832
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,400
to go back to those signals. 
So, the pattern is the constant 

833
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,500
sadness. 
That's the name of the tree 

834
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,700
because that's, that's sadness 
that pattern isn't just randomly

835
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,700
happening. 
Everything you say and do is 

836
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,700
coming from one of these, but 
you can't see it straight away 

837
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:55,400
from. 
You've got to dig through some 

838
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,500
layers, to get to this thing and
then you go to The Vedic down. 

839
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,300
So you look at your pattern from
your pack, and you look at your 

840
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:03,400
phone signals before. 
Signals are the emotions as I 

841
00:40:03,408 --> 00:40:05,300
keep saying, depression, 
anxiety. 

842
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:08,700
Whatever, being your behaviors. 
So what are you doing? 

843
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,900
Maybe more Angry more irritable 
most or more. 

844
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,800
What are you doing? 
What are you? 

845
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,600
What do you? 
What is your communication? 

846
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,700
What is so, be quite specific. 
Then the third thing is, what's 

847
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,100
going on in your body? 
What are you feeling maybe 

848
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:24,400
getting these GI symptoms or 
maybe you're getting My papa 

849
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,000
tations or maybe getting your 
skin rashes or whatever. 

850
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,100
What are you noticing? 
That's different in your 

851
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,300
physical symptoms. 
Are you feeling is 

852
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,700
gut-wrenching, adrenaline 
shooting through you, whatever? 

853
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:38,200
So look at your body and then 
you look at your perspective 

854
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,700
which is your attitude to are 
you looking at that, what your 

855
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:43,800
view of life is it? 
This view that life sucks. 

856
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,200
I hate life. 
I can't do this. 

857
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,300
It's just too much. 
No one understands. 

858
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,700
It would either. 
So those are the four signals. 

859
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,800
So from the overarching pattern,
you dive into the for signals. 

860
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,000
And then from the four signals, 
which are coming out of here and

861
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200
all of this, by the way you do 
with your two chairs, you 

862
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,100
digging your wise. 
Mind, the wise Mind Is Telling 

863
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:07,700
You, hey Sadie, you're amazing. 
You wired for love, is something

864
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:09,300
you can do that. 
No one else can do. 

865
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,400
This is not who you are this 
depression. 

866
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800
This is because of we looking 
for the macaws of this is a 

867
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800
symptom of you being stalked, 
detective historian, brain 

868
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,500
surgeon, all the rest of it. 
So we better look at it. 

869
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,600
Did use a lot of kindness with 
me do this. 

870
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,500
Go to be very kind to us. 
All Cough and then whole podcast

871
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,000
on what kindness does in the 
brain. 

872
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,900
I mean, it literally makes the 
two sides of the brain work 

873
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,000
together, increases oxygen, and 
blood flow to the front of the 

874
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
brain, and that a thousand other
things. 

875
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,700
But if you, if you hard on 
yourself that in a Critic and 

876
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,100
then boys, going, I'm terrible. 
I'm used to some a waste of 

877
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,600
time, I can't do this and I'll 
never get this right? 

878
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:47,000
That is going to reduce oxygen 
and blood flow to the front of 

879
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,300
the brain and created are out of
Harmony it. 

880
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,900
Coherence between the two sides 
of the brain goes, and don't 

881
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:55,400
want it. 
Well, High levels of the high 

882
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,000
beta who could tsunamis in your 
brain of energy very hard to 

883
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000
think. 
Clearly when that happens. 

884
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:03,600
So this system of the neuro 
cycle. 

885
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,100
You prepare first. 
So that you prepare? 

886
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,100
And that's why I said, get to 
two chairs. 

887
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:12,200
Be very kind to yourself. 
Tell yourself things like this 

888
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,200
is not who I am. 
This is who I've become. 

889
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,600
I'm showing up like this because
of how are you showing up that 

890
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,400
pattern thing? 
What are the signals? 

891
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,600
All the time. 
Couch, didn't wise mind pouring 

892
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,300
live on too messy mind and you 
Keep telling us up, it's okay to

893
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:28,900
be a Miss, everyone's amazed, if
you want to mess too, and we 

894
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,900
keep making messes and then 
niece's are great because that's

895
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:34,900
how we can repair growth. 
So when you work with I'll miss 

896
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:36,500
you mind, we can repair in 
groans. 

897
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,700
Okay. 
So then from there, you start at

898
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:40,400
other people, racial things you 
can do. 

899
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,500
When you sit down to do an 
actual session and on your own, 

900
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:47,400
either on your own using the 
book or using the app, you want 

901
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,100
to do a little bit more brain 
preparation, she set the single 

902
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,600
the kindness and chairs and 
finding the pattern and seeing 

903
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,500
those. 
For signals, then you want to 

904
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,100
do, maybe some rain preparation 
because we you stop looking at 

905
00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,900
the stuff that can make you feel
a little anxious. 

906
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,500
It can increase your levels of 
anxiety, and that's where things

907
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:04,500
like deep breathing, and 
meditation. 

908
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,800
And havening, which is basically
using stimulation to simulate 

909
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,400
the amygdala to calm down. 
I mean, there's so many 

910
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,500
different things in the FI have 
a three-minute break prep that 

911
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,700
you always do every day. 
Before you dive into the hard 

912
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:18,600
work and that just calms down 
first of all your 

913
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,500
electrophysiology. 
So the in it the electronic the 

914
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:25,300
energy part of you then again 
Within the chemistry because I 

915
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,800
came on your temples, can go 
crazy or too much cortisol, too 

916
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,300
much. 
You won't have enough serotonin.

917
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:32,900
You won't have enough dopamine, 
you'll get shots. 

918
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:34,100
You won't get enough. 
An endermite. 

919
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,400
There's all these different 
chemicals. 

920
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:37,700
That seems a whole signals for 
your hormone system. 

921
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:40,300
Your telomeres everything is 
affected. 

922
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,200
So you want to prepare your 
brain, okay? 

923
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,100
And then you dive into the five 
steps of the new cycle, which is

924
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,500
essentially a systematic way you
work through all five 

925
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:52,700
systematically or five steps and
that, that each step is making 

926
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:55,600
your brain. 
More accurately than Europe 

927
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,100
plastic Direction. 
So, in other words, you driving 

928
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,300
the neuroplasticity in the black
direction, that means you're 

929
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:04,300
breaking these down and you 
boldly replacement thoughts. 

930
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,700
So, that's kind of the, the 
system. 

931
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,000
You do have a 63 days and the 
reason I want to say why you do 

932
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,700
this, the reason you do it over 
63 days and Cycles, or you may 

933
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:18,400
have to do multiple is because a
lot of people think habits are 

934
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,400
made in 21 days and, you know, 
they think you have a habit, 

935
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,800
then you'll have a new Behavior.
There aren't If you have major 

936
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,500
changes, every moment and you'll
have periods like four days as a

937
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:33,800
major time period 7 and 14, 21 
is enough time to basically stop

938
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,300
finding going from the pattern 
to the signals to what harm I 

939
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,600
see myself down to start seeing 
the roots. 

940
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,400
Oh yeah you don't solve it in 
one day. 

941
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,400
You do a little bit each day so 
today I may just find I'm 

942
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,000
depressed and see my hate. 
My I hate myself, I hate life. 

943
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
And I'm withdrawing and it's 
because of something that's 

944
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,300
maybe even your first five steps
tomorrow. 

945
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,800
Ed more Each day you get more 
and more layers, but 21 days. 

946
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,400
This thing would have been ugly,
endured and energy is never lost

947
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,500
in the brain and the body. 
You would have built this. 

948
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:06,300
And this says, okay, I used to 
be depressed all the time. 

949
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:08,800
I thought I was depression. 
I'm not depression. 

950
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200
I'm depressed because of that 
stuff, and that's making me very

951
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,100
sad, but that's not how I want 
to be. 

952
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:15,300
This is how I want to be, but 
it's small. 

953
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:17,300
So and this thing is much 
bigger. 

954
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,400
So this thing's got to compete 
with all the, you still haven't 

955
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
forgotten what's happened. 
So and you've also got all other

956
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,100
things. 
Things inside of you, if you 

957
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,900
trigger it, this is not strong 
enough to move into a conscious 

958
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:30,100
mind. 
It's not a habitat. 

959
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:32,700
You've got to grow this thing. 
So what are still practice? 

960
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:35,800
The five steps, which are 
driving the mind with little 

961
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,100
actions and everything, it's a 
whole process writing. 

962
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:41,400
It's very systematized. 
You by day 21. 

963
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,100
It's going to look. 
I'm sorry about it when you 

964
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:46,000
want. 
It looks like this my day, 42, 

965
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,300
can you see it's growing and I'm
63, you've got this, and so 

966
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:55,300
takes around about 9 weeks of 
New behavior that you want in 

967
00:45:55,308 --> 00:45:58,500
your life to grow to the point 
where when you triggered, you 

968
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,000
remember. 
Oh, I used to think you were to 

969
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,900
that. 
Yeah. 

970
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,800
It's now going to change into 
this. 

971
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,900
You remember how you were, but 
your change what's in you, which

972
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:08,800
then changes how you 
communicate. 

973
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,400
And so as, you know, having gone
through depression yourself and,

974
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,700
and living living with it. 
That depression is a signal. 

975
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:18,200
And once you sort of diving into
it, you started seeing other 

976
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,400
emotions and there is and body 
symptoms and perspective and as 

977
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,000
you saw it, Finding the cause 
it's only when you find the 

978
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,900
course and you ever tried to 
reconceptualize that will you 

979
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,700
start getting free and even then
you still going to have 

980
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:36,000
depression because depression is
not enough have depression. 

981
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,400
You still going to expensive 
your? 

982
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,800
Yeah and that's normal. 
There's nothing wrong with that.

983
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,200
You mustn't be scared of 
depression. 

984
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,100
We have think of depression, on 
a scale of 1 to 10. 

985
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:46,600
What is that? 
I feel a little bit depressed 

986
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,400
because someone put a really bad
posts on my, on my social media 

987
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,400
or someone says something ugly 
comment about a podcast that you

988
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,300
let you get would put out. 
You put yourself up in it can 

989
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:59,300
throw, you know and that would 
be maybe a one or two or three 

990
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,700
in terms of depression. 
You get yourself through it and 

991
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,900
then you can use in your cycle. 
It's when things accumulate and 

992
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:08,600
we don't deal with stuff and we 
just keep digging up, pushing it

993
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200
on that it grows and then it 
becomes fixed soon as it starts 

994
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200
hitting 5 and above. 
It's now moving into an extreme 

995
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,200
response and being put on mine 
is 90 to 99 percent of who we 

996
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,500
are, it's very consuming. 
So the big thing here is that 

997
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,100
it's not that depression is an 
illness. 

998
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,800
As I keep saying, Saying it's 
not a brain disease, it's not 

999
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,200
something else in your brain 
jumping out and being triggered 

1000
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,900
and like a disease in Waiting. 
You don't like you get a maid in

1001
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:34,200
Waiting in those. 
Oh no it's not like that. 

1002
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,300
At all. 
The brain will respond in your 

1003
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:40,200
body will get sick and let stuff
because there's an impact, our 

1004
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,400
of busy mind on your, on your 
brain and your body. 

1005
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Yeah. 
Need to basically support for 

1006
00:47:45,207 --> 00:47:46,000
that. 
And I'm not talkin 

1007
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,800
psychotropics. 
I'm talking, you know, proper 

1008
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,700
treatment or if you've got heart
issues and so on from that. 

1009
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,300
But the big thing is that the 
course not in your brain, the 

1010
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:56,600
causes Your lash is something 
that's happened to you, you 

1011
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,400
experienced up these adverse 
circumstances, and those are 

1012
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,400
what's caused you to feel like 
the so you need to find those 

1013
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,100
disconnect from them and we 
conceptualize them. 

1014
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:10,500
And being you can move forward 
into a healthier pattern of 

1015
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:12,500
functioning. 
And then the next thing comes up

1016
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,600
and then the next and the rest 
of your life. 

1017
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,800
Listen, I'm 58, I'm still doing 
this, you know, you've built the

1018
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,700
tool box to be able to navigate 
these things. 

1019
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:22,100
It's easier to up and the 
beliefs that you haven't built 

1020
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:25,200
up over years, but it's just 
Able to maintain your mental 

1021
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,400
health. 
Exactly. 

1022
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,600
And this is something I've been 
teaching. 

1023
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,100
My youngest patient has his was 
three my ID number for adult, 

1024
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:34,600
children had grown up with us. 
Yeah, I the schools that I work 

1025
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,600
till we put this in to teach 
train into the school system. 

1026
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
So, kids from Young, should be 
taught how to manage the 

1027
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,700
emotions and understand you can 
show kids to reside guy would 

1028
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:46,000
have been using simple language 
was three-year-old and a child 

1029
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,900
in a tortilla. 
Or the whole thing is as adults.

1030
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,400
We need to allow children and 
adolescents and teenagers 

1031
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,700
Express themselves, you need to 
To stand by your mom comes home.

1032
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:59,300
And like, if I come home, and 
I'm really worked up quite a 

1033
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,700
hard day and I'm like with Dawn 
and snappy and irritable, I need

1034
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:05,600
to be able to model to my kids. 
Okay, this is how I'm feeling. 

1035
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,100
It's okay to feel this house. 
I feel like this because of side

1036
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,700
goes through the whole five step
process, expanding giving and 

1037
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,100
modeling how I'm managing a feel
like this because of this is 

1038
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,100
what I'm going to do. 
But if you just come home, 

1039
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,300
irritable and screaming at your 
kids, so you come home and you 

1040
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:23,400
scream at your mom or whatever 
and you just mad at we friend 

1041
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,400
They don't understand what's 
going on, but if you model like 

1042
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,800
a few numbers because of this, I
just need some space. 

1043
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,200
I'm going to get it under 
control but I just need to get 

1044
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,900
this up and deal with it better.
We should be doing, we should be

1045
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:37,900
teaching kids from young but one
in 12 kids are being missed in 

1046
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:40,900
an indoor growing into 
adolescents and adults, and 

1047
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:44,900
young adulthood with all the 
stuff inside, and that leads to 

1048
00:49:44,908 --> 00:49:47,900
what you went through, you know,
that kind of thing versus, you 

1049
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:51,100
know, we, I mean, after adults 
in the house here, we've got to 

1050
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,500
be thoughtful to. 
We should have been teaching 

1051
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,700
this. 
I've been trying to fight the 

1052
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,900
system for 38 years so there's 
nothing people like you wanted. 

1053
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:00,500
You want to unpack any of that 
stuff. 

1054
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,900
No, it's so true and it's so 
profound and every single time 

1055
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,600
you bring up these different 
things, I can connect it to my 

1056
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,400
treatment journey and what I did
without realizing I was going 

1057
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,000
through those steps, like I 
recall, not even realizing I was

1058
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,400
depressed because I was so, 
like, avoiding what I was 

1059
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,300
feeling and thinking until I was
literally in the hospital and 

1060
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:22,000
then everything blew up because 
I was so severely, depressed. 

1061
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,500
And then I was trying all of 
these He's different treatments,

1062
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:26,500
whether it was outpatient or 
inpatient and nothing was 

1063
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:29,200
changing because I wasn't 
identifying, the roux and it was

1064
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,900
only after I was in intensive 
treatment and had taken a step 

1065
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:34,400
back from my home life that I 
identified that. 

1066
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,300
I was like, I very genuinely 
believe. 

1067
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,700
I don't deserve love and every 
single, it's the interaction I'm

1068
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:42,600
going through. 
Yeah, so every single 

1069
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,800
interaction I'm going through. 
I'm looking at the world to 

1070
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,400
support the belief that I don't 
deserve love and that I'll never

1071
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,300
be good enough for my parents or
those interactions became deeply

1072
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,600
traumatic. 
Because I felt and validated and

1073
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,800
Connected and so I became 
suicidal, he's severely 

1074
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,000
depressed, but it was only after
I unpacked that and learn to do 

1075
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,700
self love and self compassion 
and realize that I don't need 

1076
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:07,700
any external cues to be 
deserving of love and care and 

1077
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:10,300
great relationships. 
That I was then able to shift my

1078
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,300
mood and emotions and thoughts 
and think still come up there. 

1079
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:16,200
Still believes that you have to 
upend and rewire but I've done 

1080
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,600
that before and I know how to do
it. 

1081
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,300
And I know how to navigate that 
so it's just it's so true and so

1082
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:25,100
profound and Universal too. 
Anyone who is struggling? 

1083
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,800
It's to humans. 
If you really are looking today,

1084
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,200
as I sit with you, you may be in
a 125 most of your life, but 

1085
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,300
then parts of your life, using 
the eight nine, ten experience 

1086
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:37,900
of the of of experience and then
it becomes an extreme response. 

1087
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:42,000
We don't need a disease label to
validate that we just need to as

1088
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,300
humans. 
We just need to be constantly 

1089
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:46,300
validating the fact that you 
have a story and you showing up 

1090
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:48,700
like X because of which is what 
you're describing. 

1091
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,100
So, those moved emotions 
sorting, you see that? 

1092
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:55,600
So, these thoughts emotions are 
inside of that, And these foods 

1093
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,500
with the emotions in the data, 
how we see ourselves 

1094
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,800
interpretation data, all that 
the information. 

1095
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,000
In other words, this is filled 
with information and emotion, 

1096
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,900
data, and that information. 
And emotion date has come from, 

1097
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,500
how we think feel and choose 
both the thoughts and the 

1098
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:11,400
thoughts introduce would be 
saying what we do. 

1099
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,000
So we can go to look at what we 
saying, what we're doing and 

1100
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600
what we feeling and feeling in 
our body which are those four 

1101
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,100
signals in order to realize, 
okay, with whatever I'm saying 

1102
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,400
and do we need to say this? 
Just like you said, I'm feeling 

1103
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400
depressed. 
Yes, I'm feeling like I don't 

1104
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,900
want to live a suicidal because 
of versus, that's my identity. 

1105
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:32,800
I am the person to person who 
says, I've got a brain disease. 

1106
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,300
So you throw that when you say 
I'm depressed and suicidal 

1107
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,300
because of that's not who I am 
because of and then you have got

1108
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:43,600
the process of tuning in to 
those signals and doing all that

1109
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,400
you know about are tuning in the
purple rain. 

1110
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,800
In the five steps, which are 
basically the five steps are 

1111
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,300
gathering reflecting two steps 
in writing to brew specific 

1112
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:56,600
testing steps and then and 
Action now things like DBT and 

1113
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,800
CBT, all the different 
techniques and things. 42 step 

1114
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,600
5, if you knew DBT and CBT, in 
the wrong order, your brain 

1115
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,900
won't rewire you don't do it 
long enough. 

1116
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:09,500
Your brain won't be wire and I 
do DBT like six or seven times 

1117
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:11,300
until it actually worked. 
It's true. 

1118
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,100
Every time you have to do, then 
that's what happens. 

1119
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,700
So much in therapy, say this. 
I'm so glad you brought that up,

1120
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,400
because so many people that I 
interview and that I had coming 

1121
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,500
to my practice and that still 
send me emails, which is 

1122
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:22,200
thousand. 
They say that I've been to 

1123
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,600
therapy and it's going on for 
years and years. 

1124
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:27,200
Here's my patients, would stay 
in therapy for cycles of 63 days

1125
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,400
and sometimes maybe would 
re-evaluate or two every 63 

1126
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,300
days. 
Do we need another cycle? 

1127
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:35,300
What's the problem is, because 
you every six, every 63 days, 

1128
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:37,400
you moving forward. 
So I had some patients that were

1129
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,700
so severely traumatized, and it 
manifested as learning 

1130
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:43,700
disabilities, and, and almost 
like traumatic, brain injury 

1131
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:46,900
type symptoms and it took 
sometimes up to two years, but 

1132
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:50,300
it was in cycles of 63 days. 
Because what often happens in 

1133
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:53,600
therapy is that people don't go 
through the proper. 

1134
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,200
I've staked system if you don't,
if you don't gather objectively 

1135
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600
you don't reflect. 
If you don't systematic 

1136
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,800
together, reflect do the two 
levels of writing one, which is 

1137
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,000
like a vomiting on the paper 
where you just throw your 

1138
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,900
thoughts out, the other ones 
organizing and then ended with 

1139
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:11,000
an action and do that little bit
by little. 

1140
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,800
But all you're going to do is 
from B yourself. 

1141
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,600
Your mind, your body and it's 
just becomes like overwhelming. 

1142
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,500
And then therapy becomes a 
venting station as opposed to 

1143
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:23,600
improve Grace station because no
one knows. 

1144
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,200
As you accept yourself. 
So all the therapists were a 

1145
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,700
counselor or coach repaired with
support from can do is love one 

1146
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:32,900
can do is to support us through 
their journey and give us some 

1147
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:36,000
perspective. 
And maybe if you go to someone 

1148
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,500
you say I'm seeing it, like 
this, is there another way to 

1149
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:39,900
see it. 
That's what a good therapist 

1150
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:42,300
twice a year. 
Maybe look at it like that and 

1151
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,700
that is this way to see it. 
What you are saying is the way 

1152
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:49,400
you see things this coming from 
this part of the tree and that's

1153
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,800
producing those behaviors to be.
You start the system correctly 

1154
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,800
the neuro cycle. 
Which you did without even 

1155
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,800
realizing you basically are 
seeing you interpretation of 

1156
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,700
yourself and we just had come 
from because every one of these 

1157
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,900
comes from Bay and to be 
distorted processing and until 

1158
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:08,100
you've gone from there through 
there today, which is what the 

1159
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:10,700
five steps do they take you 
through that, you're going to 

1160
00:55:10,707 --> 00:55:12,100
get frustrated. 
So what happened? 

1161
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:15,300
I know my belief system was 
there's no reason why I'm 

1162
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,500
depressed. 
Therefore I might just be 

1163
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:19,600
innately depressed. 
I understand that other people 

1164
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,300
can work through that and are 
not depressed, but that's not 

1165
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:24,400
possible for me. 
Because a This is all I've ever 

1166
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,800
known and be, there's no reason 
there was no giant trauma that I

1167
00:55:27,808 --> 00:55:29,700
experienced. 
I just was suddenly this super 

1168
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:32,800
depressed teenager. 
And so, of course, there was no 

1169
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,900
progress that was being made 
because I didn't, I didn't 

1170
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,400
believe that there was a cause I
thought I was just innately 

1171
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,000
deserving, assert being 
depressed forever. 

1172
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,900
And that was the messaging that 
Eugene's he's, grown up jeans. 

1173
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:45,900
Yeah. 
And I used to lecture to schools

1174
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,200
and to adolescents, and 
teenagers and University except 

1175
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,600
on for years, 20 years ago, Peep
Peep Would understand it was a 

1176
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,300
cause now people will the first 
thing about talk to a group of 

1177
00:55:58,300 --> 00:56:00,900
people because there's these 
micro traumas, you can identify 

1178
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:03,900
that X or Y happened. 
Thank you over time, there was 

1179
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:06,100
chronic and validation or 
misunderstanding. 

1180
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:08,900
You don't identify that. 
These are leading to what you're

1181
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,900
feeling because they're 
accumulating social network of 

1182
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:14,500
over time, which is saying the 
telomeres. 

1183
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,500
But the many, many tumors are 
causing many traumas in your 

1184
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:21,800
telomeres, to causing many 
traumas in your body, which over

1185
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,900
time, the many tall. 
Emma's in your mind crash in 

1186
00:56:24,908 --> 00:56:26,900
your body and in the whole of 
crash together. 

1187
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,500
Yeah. 
Exploding like a volcano and you

1188
00:56:30,500 --> 00:56:33,800
know that your age group jeans, 
even or even the Millennials 

1189
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,700
will and if I licked it to the 
now the immediate things own its

1190
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:39,400
innate. 
It's biological. 

1191
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,900
I've got a chemical imbalance. 
What drug must? 

1192
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:46,400
I take and therapy seen as well.
Kind of like a fancy side. 

1193
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,800
You know, Sideshow kind of 
thing. 

1194
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,400
It's only for your really weak 
people. 

1195
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,300
Meanwhile, ten years ago if I 
spoke about these If people with

1196
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:57,500
emotional issues, they're eating
meat, it worked, you know, 

1197
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:00,000
issues, mind issues. 
People would immediately said, 

1198
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,100
oh, what's the cause? 
So we've shifted in the last 40 

1199
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:06,500
years, from looking at causes 
to, in the environment to 

1200
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:09,600
looking at brain diseases. 
It's a disaster and it's 

1201
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,900
terrible because you're putting 
the blame on the person. 

1202
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,100
You're like, what have you done 
wrong to be feeling this way. 

1203
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,000
I'm so glad you see that sink. 
As I said, I was riding up 

1204
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,300
scientific paper this morning 
and I was just cooking with my 

1205
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:22,700
research team. 
Just before that we do clinical 

1206
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:25,500
trials, within one of the things
that I wrote in the introduction

1207
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,300
was you've got to stop saying to
the patient, what is wrong with 

1208
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:30,800
you? 
It's her has happened to you. 

1209
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,300
Yes, you know, and that can be a
socio-economic environment. 

1210
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,100
You are you, are you in chronic 
and living in chronic racism and

1211
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,000
fear of getting in your car? 
Because someone might shoot you 

1212
00:57:38,008 --> 00:57:40,600
learn that a traveler. 
Who are you in constantly 

1213
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,500
bullied at school or you think 
on and you talk about the micro 

1214
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:45,400
tools. 
They people think they aren't 

1215
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,300
relevant but if you bully her 
and your booty being is a big 

1216
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,100
family and your parents love 
you, do they face but you may 

1217
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:55,200
feel like no one is more. 
A personality that more is more 

1218
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,900
demanding and so you quieter you
don't get enough attention. 

1219
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,800
Those are many tumors that your 
parents didn't intend but that 

1220
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,900
can build and create accumulate 
over time for all of us has to 

1221
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,800
be paid attention to. 
So, we've got 100 people. 

1222
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:10,700
Think God is something wrong 
with me when I'm fucked, 

1223
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:11,800
depression. 
Absolutely. 

1224
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,500
Not grab the depression and find
the story. 

1225
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,900
Find the hose off and but do it 
systematically. 

1226
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,900
Because of the one thing I do 
want to mention is that we can 

1227
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,500
get in. 
If therapy you mentioned, you 

1228
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:24,700
the DPT. 
If you're Times and people will 

1229
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,500
you CBT techniques over and over
again order to end the or four 

1230
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:30,300
years? 
They all good, but if you don't 

1231
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:33,100
use them after you've actually 
gone through the first four 

1232
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:36,600
status of the neuro cycle, which
is gather with the whole thing 

1233
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,300
of finding, what the root is, 
those techniques used on their 

1234
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:43,700
own, or just an action. 
So, here's the problem. 

1235
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,900
So you putting a Band-Aid on a 
bandaid on it and every single 

1236
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:49,800
one of those things is 
brilliant, but until you've 

1237
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,300
actually, they're only work when
you've actually worked at. 

1238
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:54,500
What is my pack? 
What am I What am I thinking 

1239
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,300
about myself? 
What did I process? 

1240
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:59,800
What happened? 
And as you do that, then you can

1241
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,900
start the action helps to take 
this and reconstructed into 

1242
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:05,800
this. 
And then next, I had patients 

1243
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,300
who come to me that had been in 
54 years and that had they done 

1244
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:14,900
so to something like this. 
But this is, this was not 

1245
00:59:14,900 --> 00:59:16,900
completely formal. 
This is only the size. 

1246
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:20,600
This is easier to see visually 
small, but this is not so 

1247
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,900
happening. 
So I know that's what I can be. 

1248
00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:25,600
I know I I am, you know, all the
things you were saying, I am 

1249
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,000
worthy of love. 
I am whatever, whatever, all 

1250
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,900
those things. 
But you still thinking, but I'm 

1251
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:33,100
still acting as though, I don't 
think I'm Ruthie. 

1252
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:37,200
There's like a Chasm between the
truth that, you know, is the 

1253
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,600
truth which can get thee and 
that's because it isn't home. 

1254
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,200
Neural rewiring takes cycles of 
63 days. 

1255
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,900
Not 21. 
It takes up to nine weeks and 

1256
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:48,800
maybe multiple cycles of nine 
weeks. 

1257
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,900
A lot of therapy goes around and
around and around the first few 

1258
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:53,200
days. 
Yeah. 

1259
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,200
Kind of. 
And weeks of the, it doesn't get

1260
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,000
Beyond. 
And that's the sort of progress 

1261
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,900
forward that makes a 100%. 
And I when you were talking 

1262
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:04,500
about putting a bandaid on these
feelings, emotions, behaviors, 

1263
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,200
whatever they are. 
It makes me think so much of 

1264
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,300
peers that I interacted with and
met during my time in treatment,

1265
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:13,000
because I think especially in 
Adolescent Treatment your so 

1266
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,500
often going through the actions 
because you're not the one 

1267
01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:18,300
that's deciding to go into 
treatment or therapy, you're 

1268
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:20,100
not. 
The one that is admitting that 

1269
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,000
you need support or help, 
oftentimes, that autonomy is 

1270
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:23,900
taken away. 
Way. 

1271
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,200
So the motivation to truly 
understand what the cause is and

1272
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,000
explore and want to get better. 
It's missing. 

1273
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,900
So you're going through the 
actions, you're doing the 

1274
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,900
behaviors, you're making these 
shifts but they're not 

1275
01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:37,300
long-lasting. 
Soon as you leave treatment and 

1276
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:40,300
aren't continually motivated to 
change and improve because you 

1277
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,400
didn't have that Foundation, 
it's just lost. 

1278
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,800
And I think that's what happened
for me the first couple times of

1279
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,000
DBT because the huge difference 
that I looked back on and 

1280
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,800
identified when I did intensive 
treatment was, I was sitting in 

1281
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,800
this room during my intake. 
It meant and they're like, why 

1282
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,600
do you want to be here? 
And I was like, my parents that 

1283
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,200
I had to. 
I'm not allowed to be at home 

1284
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,100
and they're like, well, that 
sucks because you can't be here 

1285
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:04,500
unless you want to be here and 
you believe this will work, and 

1286
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:08,200
it was only after I trusted them
enough to help me. 

1287
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,800
I let them help me. 
I believe that there was wisdom 

1288
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,400
in DBT and I had enough 
self-compassion to want to get 

1289
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,600
better. 
That all these shifts took place

1290
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,800
and I was able to unpack what 
had happened and what led to me,

1291
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,200
feeling depressed and then shift
the behaviors and emotions and 

1292
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,100
thoughts. 
It's so we can reconsider. 

1293
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:28,000
You dear factored and me, but 
you had to, but they were saying

1294
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,700
choose what your pattern and 
they didn't say these words, but

1295
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:34,200
essentially it was what the 
pattern, what are the signals 

1296
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,100
tune into the why and do the 
deconstruction me and that takes

1297
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,500
time, it takes daily work. 
That's why did I ever? 

1298
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,000
Because you will go for therapy 
but not, everyone can go to 

1299
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,100
treatments. 
Not everyone can afford to be so

1300
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:49,500
time-consuming as well, me, it's
expensive, it's not always 

1301
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:51,100
viable. 
So it's very few. 

1302
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:54,000
People will go to that but this 
movie is the whole Expecting 

1303
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,600
with in mind. 
So that's why we've got to have 

1304
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,200
a daily mind management strategy
because you don't mind. 

1305
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,700
Never stops. 
Did the doesn't even stop when 

1306
01:02:00,707 --> 01:02:03,800
you sleeping. 
Yeah, your mind is always going 

1307
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,300
in your mind. 
Your current mind is influenced.

1308
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:08,800
The current moment is influenced
by what you think, what's 

1309
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,000
happening the past. 
So these things just, you know, 

1310
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000
getting your face and you look 
at last you this. 

1311
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:16,000
So, anything that's in your 
face, that's your pattern. 

1312
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,900
Whatever is like how you looking
if it's toxic and it's 

1313
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:20,800
activated. 
Submit disturbing your piece, 

1314
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,400
that's where you would start and
that's why I developed this. 

1315
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,500
That's how we know out of the 
therapy world after 25 years and

1316
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,000
took all the knowledge and 
created this effort and 

1317
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,400
initially was in books and 
online. 

1318
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,300
Now, we put it in at full which 
is great because you can 

1319
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,500
literally press play and you can
listen 15 minutes and work 

1320
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,500
through the five steps and 
worried about, you know, the 

1321
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:42,000
whole pepper ation, five stick, 
whatever, and you've got a 

1322
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,200
system and in everything you've 
learned in therapy with 

1323
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,200
everything, you've read about 
all the books with it. 

1324
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,200
You can still do all of those. 
But yeah, you put them in the 

1325
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,800
right place that you can Hunter 
me and which is so amazing. 

1326
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,900
So, Well, that's these so 
amazing. 

1327
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:00,300
We so profound and University 
the universally applicable. 

1328
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:02,000
And I know this will help so 
many people. 

1329
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,300
So thank you, thank you. 
Thank you. 

1330
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,300
It's my pleasure. 
Thank you for having me on. 

1331
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,700
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1332
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:11,200
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1333
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,900
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1334
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,700
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1335
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:19,500
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01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:21,400
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01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:23,400
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1338
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,000
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1339
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,400
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