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Welcome to, she persisted, I'm 
your host CD son. 

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Every Friday. 
I post interviews about mental 

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therapy and Teenage life. 

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Teach skills to help you cope 
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including teens, just like you. 

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your mental Fitness. 
This podcast is your inspiration

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to live a life, you love and 
keep persisting. 

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This week's. 
DBT skill is self-soothing. 

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I feel like we could all use a 
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our Lives. 
Right now, this feels pretty 

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straightforward. 
What you are doing, is you are 

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soothing emotionally, using your
five senses. 

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So I'll give you some examples. 
So for touch, maybe you're like 

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patting your talk or you're 
putting on a really comfy 

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blanket. 
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massage, getting your nails done
taking a hot shower, all of 

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those kinds of things for Taste.
Maybe you are baking your 

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favorite treat or you're 
drinking a relaxing tea. 

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I'm having a smoothie things 
that are soothing and enjoyable 

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for you for smell. 
Maybe your lighting your 

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favorite All using your favorite
lotion going outside and like 

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smelling nature or you're 
drinking your favorite cup of 

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coffee for the smell. 
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maybe you're listening to music 
a podcast, a book, all of those 

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kinds of things. 
Maybe you are really leaning 

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into the quiet and unplugging 
independently being outside and 

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just listening to The Sounds 
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Foresight you maybe are watching
your favorite movie reading a 

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book that you love people 
watching tons of different ideas

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here. 
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you, one of my favorite tips for
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with a list of what works for 
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So that when you really need to 
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know, exactly like which candle 
to grab our which tea works for 

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you and what movie to watch 
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Okay, I need to know. 
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but do I take a hot shower or do
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So figure out what works for 
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Make a list in your phone, on a 
piece of paper, whatever works 

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and have that as your go-to for 
when you are feeling 

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overwhelmed. 
Hello, hello, and welcome. 

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Back to she persisted, I am out 
of quarantine, my voice is back.

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I'm so excited for this episode.
Our Guest today is Fe o soltera.

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She is a mindset and 
manifestation coach and she also

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hosts a podcast called the 
Manifest at it. 

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This conversation goes, 
literally everywhere we talked 

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about her journey overcoming 
childhood Emma, we talked about 

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the coaching client 
relationship, we talk about 

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manifesting and really breaking 
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What that is, all these Buzz 
words, you've heard like angel 

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numbers and all that kind of 
stuff that I know you've seen on

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Tick-Tock because I've seen it 
as well, we talked about 

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misconceptions, the manifesting 
world we talk about 

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spirituality. 
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and manifestation intersect, and
really dive into subconscious 

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programming. 
And then we also touched on how 

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raised relates to manifesting. 
This is just such a good 

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conversation and it's one of my 
favorites that I've done in a 

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while. 
So, as always You enjoyed this 

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And if you guys want to follow 
along with FES, she says it at 

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the end, but her Instagram is at
FES Holter. 

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EFI ASU, lter underscore, same 
thing for tick, tock, and our 

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website is FES Holter.com. 
So with that, let's dive in. 

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Thank you so much for joining me
today on. 

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She persisted, I'm so excited to
have you on the show. 

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Thank you. 
I'm so excited to be here and to

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get into our discussion today as
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Yeah. 
So I want to hear your story. 

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I want to hear how you got to 
the point of doing the work that

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you are now and working in 
manifestation and and hosting a 

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podcast and all of that. 
So, so talk to me about your 

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journey. 
I think the thing about my 

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journey is that are so many 
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points, but it'll kind of like 
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the case for many people story. 
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began in my childhood That I had
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from other people. 
I was in the care system and I 

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was adopted at age three and I 
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kind of normal issue as normal 
as your life can be as a kid 

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growing up and I lived with My 
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and which point she 
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a long-term illness. 
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fact, not even at the point that
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But from as early, as 10 was, 
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change. 
Change because my mom was 

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gradually declining and her help
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artists like being a normal kid 
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Growing Up incredibly quickly 
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grown up Butters. 
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childhood was different to the 
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My mom was kind of spiritual had
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like dial-up, Tony Robbins 
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So for me, as an adult going 
into spirituality and becoming a

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manifestation coach Not that 
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But it was, it definitely wasn't
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was going to do. 
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experiences I had in my own 
childhood and the importance of 

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the people I had in my life, who
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traditional family roles, 
apparent roles had a huge impact

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on the person I am today. 
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know the importance of people 
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And I think something which is 
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about the, what I find to be so 
beautiful about the coaching 

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relationship. 
Up is that you can have friends.

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You can have family members but 
we don't always have entirely 

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honest discussions with people 
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love them that we're not having 
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because we love them so much 
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honest conversation. 
And so when you hire a coach 

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like I you're not paying me to 
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Like I love you and I care about
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to have a relationship where I'm
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blind spots are. 
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difficult and challenging 
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But that's because number one, 
that's what you're paying me 

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for. 
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Like that is how we get that 
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what's in the blind spot so that
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Integris version of ourselves. 
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And I think that's so true. 
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something really beautiful about
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you can go to once a week. 
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and really just like let things 
go and invent and get those 

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emotions out, and then not have 
to like, not deal with the 

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repercussions, but it's not like
you are complaining to your mom 

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and then every three Times. 
Three times a day. 

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You see her. 
She's like, how's that situation

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going? 
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wanted to talk about it once and
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life. 
So it's such an amazing thing to

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have someone that you can, it 
can talk to and open up with and

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get like professional support 
from Yeah, I totally agree and I

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love the example that he's there
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you've ever thought about a 
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relationship and you're like, 
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they keep taking them back and 
you have to just be there and 

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support them because that's what
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So the relationship is 
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like you have that friendliness 
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Obviously, you don't want to 
work with someone that you don't

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like, but it's different and I 
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Totally. 
So manifestation is a huge buzz 

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word right now. 
I feel like Tech talks on my for

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you page or talking about 
manifesting and goals, break it 

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down for us. 
What does it mean to to manifest

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something? 
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manifest? 
Something is to make something 

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real, to make something 
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So to take something from an 
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experience in your 3D reality. 
Something you can part 

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something, you can see something
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existing in your brain is the 
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So we're all manifesting all the
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I'm but as a manifestation 
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more of an awareness to their 
subconscious programming. 

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So that they can reprogram it to
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And I don't just mean success 
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outcomes, but also in the way 
that you feel and so our 

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subconscious programming is so 
so important for the way that we

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live our lives and not enough 
people know about it and we you 

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know if you've ever had this 
idea and you're like yes this 

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way when I have this one attract
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things and you're like wait but 
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Is because Divide percent of 
your life is run by your 

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subconscious programming. 
Your subconscious programming 

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informs everything. 
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is very important for me to add 
some of the context and Nuance 

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that's missing from the 
manifestations face which as you

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say on Tick-Tock. 
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Tick-Tock I love to talk. 
I'm on there all the time saying

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but there's only so much you can
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So it's very important to me 
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people through the lens of like 
what manifestation is what 

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manifestation isn't and adding 
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To some phrases or some ideas 
that you're seeing online that 

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their own just not quite fully 
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Yeah, no, I think that's so 
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Going to the subconscious belief
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that people hold are there 
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That lots of people are 
operating by that are just 

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creating huge blocks, or is it 
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And everyone is has different 
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utilizing. 
I think there were many common 

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limiting beliefs mindset blocks 
that appear in different ways, 

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but I don't want to only 
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beliefs is just one small part 
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programming is. 
We also have your identity, we 

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have your trauma, we have your 
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And so obviously every person is
completely different in that 

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respect. 
But Justin limiting beliefs, I 

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believe that there are there are
many similar ones like fear of 

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success, fear of failure, fear 
of what other people are going 

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to think that we many people 
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But they may present 
differently. 

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Yeah. 
No, I I think that's true in it 

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completely impacts how you're 
interacting with the world, what

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relationships? 
You're diving into what 

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different career paths, or 
education paths, you're 

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pursuing? 
And I think that's very true. 

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What are some different ways to 
manifest? 

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I know there's probably endless 
different examples but are there

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common ones that you like to 
implement and use with clients? 

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I think it depends on where 
they're at in their spiritual 

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journey and what specifically 
they want to manifest. 

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And so, I'll give you an 
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Yesterday, on Tick Tock, someone
asked me for advice with 

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manifesting custom friends know,
like, can you give me some 

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affirmations to manifest and 
Browns from like all? 

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Yes, I could give you some 
affirmations to manifest and 

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friends but also it depends like
what your current mindset is 

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around manifesting friends. 
Like I don't want to give you 

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this like advice without context
and so the advice I gave them 

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when it came to mind. 
Surround the rather than just 

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like an affirmation, like I have
friends. 

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Now I have a friend group, which
is probably not going to do much

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of that. 
Feels super far away for you 

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right now was to think about the
kind of relationships that they 

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wanted to have into the script 
on and write on those kinds of 

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relationships. 
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take actions based off of those 
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And so when we talk about 
relationships, I think the piece

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that's often missing is like, 
yes be really clear on like the 

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people that you want to try out 
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like are you nourishing yourself
in those He's like, oh, I want a

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person who's going to this and 
there's nothing special with 

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romantic relationships, like 
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people to treat us as well. 
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No one's going to love you 

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we're not just external izing or
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something, I think getting 
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Are the actions? 
I'm taking are actually aligned 

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with that because if you're 
saying like, I want to manifest 

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a new friend group, I want to 
have new friends, but you're not

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meeting people or you're not 
messaging people and asking them

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if they want to hang out then, 
not much just go champ. 

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In today's show notes. 
You mentioned that how people 

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manifest kind of depends where 
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Journeys? 
What is the connection there 

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between spirituality and 
manifest? 

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Nation. 
I'd love to kind of learn more. 

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So, for me, manifestation is 
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spirituality because the 
relationship that you have with 

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the universe and that's not to 
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any other religion, that is not 
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Like, I think it's very personal
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But for me, the way that I 
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spirituality in that part of the
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communicating with the 
university guides, your higher 

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self angels to make the reality 
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And so why I said it depends 
where People are on their 

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spiritual journey as because 
personally, I'm not of the 

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belief that manifestation 
happens overnight. 

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And if you see someone saying 
like I might have something in 

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24 hours or instant 
manifestation, I think that it's

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important to say that we do the 
building blocks of mindset work.

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it may be quicker for some 
things to happen in that, it 

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looks like something happened in
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because, like, of all the 
groundwork that you've laid up 

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until that point. 
And so, it's like, when you hear

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people say, like when you're 
freelancing, Charge by the hour 

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because you're not accounting 
for all the skills that you've 

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learned. 
I've actually allowed you to now

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complete something quickly, and 
it's just the same for 

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manifestation is like, so if 
your other Minds that you just 

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getting beginning with mindset 
manifestation, where I can at 

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the moment, your mindset is like
it's really hard to manifest 

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things. 
I don't think I'm a very 

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powerful powerful Manifesto if I
just was like, okay yeah, here's

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your affirmation to manifest, 
your friends and you're still in

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the mindset of like it's going 
to be really hard and 

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challenging then it's not going 
to change. 

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Whereas if you were the mindset 
like yep, I know I'm a super 

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powerful manifest error. 
I'm like, ready to take action 

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on. 
Do I need to do? 

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I just need some affirmations to
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feeling creatively challenged at
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That's a different story. 
Hmm, you mentioned angels. 

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I feel like angel numbers are 
another thing that are blowing 

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up right now. 
Walk me through those, what they

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mean, what they can symbolize 
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those are implemented and either
you like your daily life or your

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clients. 
So, there are so many angel 

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numbers. 
I absolutely don't know. 

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Every single one of my heart may
be on its own brother that but I

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will talk to you about science 
and so You see at University, I 

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studied semiotic switch is the 
study of Science and I think a 

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piece that isn't really talked 
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why I don't advocate for my 
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Either is because I believe when
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externalize, in your decision 
making process in, you're 

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putting your power somewhere 
outside of yourself. 

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That's not to say that don't use
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encourage people to use them are
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So, instead of, if I meant to 
leave this relationship, Give Me

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A Sign. 
Or if this is the job for me, 

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give me a sign. 
I encourage people to to use 

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those signs as like nonce and 
confirmations that you're on the

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right path and those nods and 
confirmations are going to show 

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up differently. 
And so for me, when I'm 

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manifesting money, a signal to 
me that I'm on track to hit my 

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money goal is if I see money on 
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it's $2 $1. 
If I see money on the ground, 

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that's assigned to me that I'm 
on track with my money goals. 

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Does that mean the same to 
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No, but I've chosen for that to 
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me. 
And so we get to choose like, 

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okay this is going to Signal 
this to me, but Only call on 

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that. 
Like if I don't see the money on

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the ground and that means I'm 
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Go broke. 
Because markets. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
That's just like a nice to me. 

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Like, keep going on the right 
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You know, that kind of like it's
like a helpful presence rather 

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than like I need this to know. 
Hmm. 

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So would you say that you'll 
numbers like, you are at first 

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like talking to yourself and 
saying, okay, this is a signal 

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that I will look for and then 
that's when it has meaning or is

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it. 
Not attached to setting it at 

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intention initially. 
So with angel numbers, angel 

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numbers already have, like, kind
of more prescribed meanings than

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just like a random. 
I don't know. 

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Whatever people uses signs like 
an animal or a guide, right? 

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But angel numbers have more 
prescribed meetings. 

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So for example, 1111 is a 
signifier that whatever you're 

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thinking about this moment. 
In time, your desires are 

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manifesting quickly. 
So, to be aware of what you're 

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thinking at that moment, I'm 333
is like this, change is coming. 

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555 your angels and your Masters
are near you. 

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So I don't, I don't ask to see 
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see them throughout the day, I'm
like, oh okay, I'm been seeing 

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1111 lot. 
Recently, was I saying, okay, 

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like have I been thinking things
are conducive to what I want to 

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manifest. 
So if you're seeing Angel 

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numbers that can be like a okay,
let me just look into this and 

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see, like, what, what am I being
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So it's more, like your angels 
are guiding you and your signs 

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are a signifiers. 
You're on the right path. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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What are some common 
misconceptions that people hold 

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about manifesting, and it's Into
spirituality. 

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I think some common 
misconceptions are. 

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I think there's two kinds of 
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There's misconceptions that come
from people who are very far 

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removed from the space and are 
just like yeah. 

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All of this is BAS and it just 
seems completely unrealistic and

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then we have also misconceptions
that come from within this space

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and so I'll give you one of 
each. 

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So misconception that might come
from outside. 

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The space is like it's BS. 
It doesn't work. 

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No, it's just not possible 
whereas, you know, manifestation

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is not just spirituality but 
it's Combination of spirituality

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science and strategy. 
So when we talk to people about 

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like in the manifestations base,
about rewiring your brain, 

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that's not BS. 
There's like you're changing 

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your neurological systems by 
repeating positive affirmations,

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or by doing the belief work. 
You are actually changing. 

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Not only the way that your brain
works, but you can actually 

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recode your DNA that way through
epigenetics. 

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And so that's on one side and 
then on the other side, for 

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example, the expression, 
thoughts become things again. 

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This is one of those things as 
kind of moss context. 

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As it's going around the 
internet, and yes, thoughts do 

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impact how you manifest? 
But they're not the only thing 

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because they're just one small 
piece of your subconscious 

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programming. 
And your subconscious 

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programming is also your beliefs
traumas, identity, and so many 

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other layers. 
So if you're just focusing on 

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thoughts, what might happen is 
it can become disempowering 

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because any time you have a 
negative thought you're like, oh

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no, it's going to manifest and 
for me as someone who 

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experiences a different mental 
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as a result of mine. 
I'll have intrusive thoughts. 

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If I thought, every time I had 
an interest with thought I know,

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I'm like, actually gonna grab a 
policeman's gun, and I'm gonna 

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like, she's someone like, that's
just not helpful to anyone. 

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So, when we say, thoughts become
things, I think the idea behind 

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it is like, let's look at how a 
belief is formed. 

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And if we go down to the core of
how beliefs are formed, as 

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through thoughts, thoughts, 
thinked, I don't know how to say

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it, but I thought I thought that
you think numerous times, right?

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And you really believe that to 
bats how it allows into belief 

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and then when we have something 
that we're believing, so truly 

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then it becomes more than a 
belief. 

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It becomes part of your 
identity, right? 

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So what were really saying is 
like just watch the trajectory 

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of your thoughts. 
If it's something that you are 

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thinking of a repeated period of
time, that's making you feel a 

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certain type of way, that's what
we want to have an awareness, 

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but a negative thought in the 
day-to-day is certainly not 

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going to ruin your life. 
Yeah, II. 

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Think that's so interesting. 
And I really liked what you 

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touched on there. 
Because I think there's 

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definitely like a dialectic 
between Queen having negative 

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thoughts and them not 
necessarily like, becoming a 

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huge part of your life. 
And then there's that, having 

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those thoughts that then become 
beliefs, that then become part 

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of your identity. 
And I think that's something 

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that really holds true with 
mental health, a lot of 

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different challenges, whether 
it's with depression, or 

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self-esteem, or anxiety, come 
with believes that you are like,

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not wrong, but you, you're 
struggling. 

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Like, that's a belief that you 
hold. 

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That's just part of your 
identity if it's like 

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self-esteem, maybe it's that 
you're not good enough. 

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Enough. 
I remember I was holding beliefs

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that I wasn't like good enough 
that I wasn't deserving of Love.

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That treatment wasn't going to 
work for me and I always go back

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to this moment when I started 
residential treatment and when 

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one of my doctors asked me, he 
was like, do you want to be 

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here? 
Do you believe this is going to 

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work? 
And I was like, no, it's not 

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going to work. 
I've tried it before. 

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Like I meant to be depressed, 
just how I am. 

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And he was like okay that's 
great but that's not like you 

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can be here for 14 weeks for 
Eight weeks, however, long 

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enough things going to change. 
So I think it's going to shift 

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00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,400
and up until that point, I 
really had been living by the 

455
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,700
beliefs, and the identity that I
was just a depressed person. 

456
00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,600
I was meant to be this way. 
This is what my life would 

457
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,100
always look like, and it was 
only once I shifted that that I 

458
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,600
did see the changes and in my 
lifestyle. 

459
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,900
So I would love to kind of hear 
your perspective on how those 

460
00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:21,700
two things are connected 
manifestation, and mental 

461
00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:25,000
health. 
I think that we can't have a 

462
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,500
conversation about manifestation
without also having a 

463
00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:30,800
conversation of Mental Health. 
Especially when it affects so 

464
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600
many people. 
And I think that meant just 

465
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,400
because you have mental illness,
does not mean that you then 

466
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,300
can't manifest or any type of 
illness for that matter. 

467
00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:44,200
But I think what we should be 
aware of is the way that it 

468
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200
impacts the way that we manifest
it obviously. 

469
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,700
And as I've someone who has also
experienced depression, there 

470
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:54,500
can be, it can go two ways in 
one that can kind of give you 

471
00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,700
hope and feel like you can 
change your situation, there's a

472
00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:58,800
lot of change. 
And then another way, if maybe 

473
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000
If I say I'm here about it and 
then you're also hearing like 

474
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,200
thoughts become things, you're 
thinking well, I'm screwed 

475
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,000
because like the way that I feel
about myself right now is not 

476
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,900
conducive to light changing my 
reality. 

477
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,700
And so what I would say is, you 
know, obviously I'm not a mental

478
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:14,000
health professional so so if 
you're listening to this, that's

479
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,900
just my my disclaimer. 
And say yeah, yeah. 

480
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,800
Is that to start with small 
things and know that it's 

481
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,600
possible for anyone to change 
their reality? 

482
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,000
The possibilities of their 
you've been doing it all your 

483
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,200
life up until this point, maybe 
not necessarily consciously but 

484
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,900
you do have of the power and the
ability to do that based on your

485
00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,900
lived experience based on your 
traumas but some people is 

486
00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:38,700
certainly going to be. 
It may feel more challenging and

487
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:41,500
I don't want to diminish the way
that you feel right now and say 

488
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:44,100
that your struggles don't exist 
or that depression is just a 

489
00:22:44,108 --> 00:22:48,100
mindset block because it isn't 
but through things like learning

490
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,200
how your subconscious mind works
and how these thoughts have been

491
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,700
informing your life and what 
you're actually sitting with 

492
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:55,600
your identity. 
We can then do things like 

493
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,800
Shadow work to peel back the 
layers and even things like 

494
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,000
Therapy or working with a coach 
or working with whoever, even 

495
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000
working with your guys, endorse 
whoever to peel back the layers 

496
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,400
and create an identity that meal
feels more true for the person 

497
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,600
who not only the person that you
want to be, but who you truly 

498
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,500
are underneath all those other 
things that build on top of it. 

499
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200
Yeah, I love that so much and I 
think there's something really 

500
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,400
powerful but having a goal to 
work towards and you mentioned 

501
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,900
kind of with the Friendship 
example writing down, what kinds

502
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:29,400
of friends you want to have how 
you feel in your and chips what 

503
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800
your interactions look like. 
I think that can be true for a 

504
00:23:31,808 --> 00:23:33,500
lot of mental health things as 
well. 

505
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:36,600
We get so stuck in our reality 
and we have our blinders on to 

506
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,200
what our experiences are like 
and can be really difficult to 

507
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000
imagine how your reality could 
be different. 

508
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,600
So if you're really struggling, 
you're feeling depressed 

509
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,600
constantly, there's not a lot of
things to look forward to 

510
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,100
spending time journaling and 
getting really clear on what you

511
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,700
want your life to look like, 
what belief systems are. 

512
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:55,300
You living your life by? 
What are your daily activities 

513
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000
look like? 
How are your relationships 

514
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,800
making you feel? 
How do you feel? 

515
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Cetera can be a goal to work 
towards and, and mental health 

516
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,100
is is a really vague abstract 
thing. 

517
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:08,100
It can be so difficult to 
navigate because it's not like 

518
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,700
there's an immediate easy and 
goal to be pursuing. 

519
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:15,500
But having some clarity there 
and being like, okay, I feel 

520
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:19,800
I've made progress if I am 
feeling depressed, only three 

521
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,400
out of seven days a week, 
instead of 7 out of 7 or 

522
00:24:22,408 --> 00:24:24,800
something like that, I think can
be really powerful. 

523
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
And I think that is another way 
that manifestation and mental 

524
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,700
health can be / aligned, I also 
want to bring up the point that 

525
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,000
there are stages. 
There are levels to this, right?

526
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,600
And if you're a position right 
now where you feel depressed, 

527
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,200
you feel like the world is just 
trash and you just like are 

528
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000
trying to get out of it for most
people. 

529
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,700
They're not going to jump from 
feeling super depressed. 

530
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:54,100
Her I can manifest the like I am
on top of it and know that. 

531
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,200
That's okay you can go from 
everything as trash to Thing is 

532
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400
okay, you can go from everything
is okay to hey I'm starting to 

533
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,700
see the good moments you can go 
from him, starting to the good 

534
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:08,000
moment to mostly good moments 
actually some trash moments but 

535
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,400
mostly good moments and it's 
okay to like move through the 

536
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,100
levels rather than feeling like 
you need to go from 0 to 100 

537
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,300
because you most people 
especially if you experience in 

538
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,400
mental illness, that's not 
realistic and it's just going to

539
00:25:17,408 --> 00:25:18,800
make you feel worse about 
yourself. 

540
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800
So rather than jumping from 
okay. 

541
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,100
Like and by the way like 
especially when you are 

542
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,300
experiencing depression for 
anxiety, may be slightly 

543
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:27,100
different. 
But especially when you're 

544
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,500
experiencing depression is like 
If not overwhelming yourself 

545
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,800
with like radical change because
then you're just going to stay 

546
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,100
depressed and then feel worse 
about yourself and not changing 

547
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,700
so quickly. 
So like small bite-sized 

548
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,600
manageable things are going to 
make you feel slightly better. 

549
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,000
It's actually better for the 
long run because it's going to 

550
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,700
compound and eventually change 
the way that you feel in a much 

551
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,600
more sustainable way because 
what we don't want to do is dip 

552
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800
into the danger of dangerously 
High highs, and dangerously low 

553
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,000
lows and like swing between the 
pendulum of the to. 

554
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,900
It's better to feel more neutral
special if you're getting out an

555
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,600
intense state of depression, By 
my opinion, it's better to feel 

556
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000
more neutral than like feeling. 
Like if you're not in that high 

557
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000
high, you're failing. 
And so for me I used to have 

558
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,700
this belief that all I wanted in
my life. 

559
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,300
I did a few things I wanted in 
my life after my mom passed away

560
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,600
and I'd experienced a really 
intense period of grief during 

561
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,300
this time because not only had 
my mom passed away, but six 

562
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,500
months after that, my 
grandmother passed away and a 

563
00:26:18,508 --> 00:26:20,700
year after that, my friend at 
school had passed away. 

564
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,900
So, I'd seen around me was, 
like, death in grief, and 

565
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:27,200
because I had previously been in
the care system that meant that 

566
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,300
my sister my brother and Why we 
became orphan because we didn't 

567
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,000
have any family left of that 
point. 

568
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,800
So all I wanted was to be normal
and to be happy to be normal and

569
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
to be happy. 
And so, when later my life, I 

570
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,100
began to realize I was 
experiencing depression. 

571
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:44,600
I felt really bad about myself 
because I wasn't feeling happy. 

572
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,900
And so what I don't want to do 
is for anyone listening to this.

573
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,400
Be like, well, if I'm not 
thinking positively, or if I'm 

574
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,700
not being happy, then I'm not 
going to create a life that I 

575
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:53,900
want. 
That's not true. 

576
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,200
We all have moments. 
And for some people, those 

577
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,500
moments may feel like they last 
longer, but Thing that always 

578
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,200
helps me to feel really. 
Anchored is knowing that whether

579
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,600
I'm in like crazy out of a world
amazing moment or I'm in the 

580
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,000
like tragic, really sad moment 
is like this is a moment, this 

581
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,600
is not forever, this is not a 
lifetime and while we can visit 

582
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,700
the challenges, we can visit the
difficult moments. 

583
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:18,800
We don't, we don't live there. 
And so in terms of building 

584
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,100
blocks, if you are in a 
challenging period right now, 

585
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,300
just think about like what is 
the minimum viable thing that 

586
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,100
you could do? 
Is it like writing one thing 

587
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,800
that you're grateful about each 
day and Not just about like your

588
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,300
external experience or like one 
thing that you love about 

589
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,200
yourself, or one thing that made
you smile today, can you 

590
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,100
tomorrow? 
Make that two things, you know 

591
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,200
or can you meditate for five 
minutes and just finding small 

592
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800
things to make your way of 
living better? 

593
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,500
And then you'll notice that you 
actually increase your capacity 

594
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,900
to hold more. 
Yeah yeah. 

595
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:54,000
And I think The more 
conversations I have in the in 

596
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,200
the mental health, the wellness 
space, whatever. 

597
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,500
It is the more books I read, the
more podcasts I listened to the 

598
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:04,000
bottom line is always seems to 
be consistency and it's those 

599
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,400
small goals that you can be 
consistent with that. 

600
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,300
Make the biggest difference and 
I struggle with what you talked 

601
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,900
about is as well with setting 
these really big goals and then 

602
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,300
of course you fall short because
they're not attainable, they're 

603
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:18,600
not possible to be consistent 
with and I had a therapist. 

604
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,600
One time told me it was a 
symptom of anxiety to That this 

605
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,500
really overwhelming crazy 
aspirations and struggle to meet

606
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:27,700
them. 
And then you get in that 

607
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:30,300
headspace of being like, why am 
I not capable of meeting this 

608
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:32,900
goal? 
I set one goal for myself and 

609
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,000
yet I can't do it. 
And yet that goal is 

610
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,700
unattainable, maybe it's not but
you're struggling to get to that

611
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:39,400
point. 
Doing a smaller goals, it can be

612
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800
kind of discouraging to think 
about your like okay, well I'm 

613
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,300
literally going to just do deep 
breathing for 30 seconds, a day 

614
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:47,100
like what anyone can do that, 
like why is that the goal I have

615
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,300
to set for myself. 
But if you can do that every 

616
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,100
single day, over a long period 
of time, Time that consistency 

617
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,100
is going to be so much more 
meaningful than meditating for 

618
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,100
45 minutes once and then never 
doing it again. 

619
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,400
And so I think that's really 
really powerful and I think you 

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I would love to hear what some 
of the most common things people

645
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200
want to manifest. 
Our, I think that kind of goes 

646
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,500
in line with getting out of our 
like blinders head space in our 

647
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,900
opening, Eyes to like what our 
lives can look like and getting 

648
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:27,400
inspiration from from other 
people's goals and aspirations 

649
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,600
money, purpose, love, I think 
are the top three and yeah I 

650
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,700
think inside of purpose, you 
know that might look like also 

651
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,400
business or Career Success or at
least a deep sense of clarity in

652
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,700
those things as well. 
So I think for most people that 

653
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:48,200
it's about feeling more at home 
in themselves and then these 

654
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,600
other things are supporting the 
way that they want to feel. 

655
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,900
I love that and I think it just 
speaks to how subjective all of 

656
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:58,000
this is like what one person 
wants and what makes them feel 

657
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,700
great. 
Might not make you feel great. 

658
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:03,600
And so even creating the space 
to get clear on what your goals 

659
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,100
are. 
Whether it's in relationship or 

660
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:09,100
purpose or financially, whatever
those are, you're not only 

661
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,200
creating thoughts that 
eventually can turn into things 

662
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
but you are really getting clear
in what that goal is and 

663
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,500
starting to to pursue it. 
I would love to kind of hear 

664
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,800
About the, I guess where the 
Divide would be, obviously, just

665
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,700
like sitting and thinking about 
something doesn't necessarily 

666
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,400
mean that it will come to 
fruition. 

667
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,500
There's something really 
powerful about getting clear on 

668
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:35,100
what your goal is, and wanting 
to call it into action because 

669
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:39,000
it kind of gives you a place to 
be oriented to your putting more

670
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Focus towards something than you
would otherwise. 

671
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,300
But are your things that you say
to your clients, like, okay, 

672
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:45,700
like what goals are we going to 
set or what different markers 

673
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,800
you going to try to meet to make
this a less abstract process? 

674
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Definitely I think there needs 
to be a declared degree of 

675
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,700
clarity and certainty otherwise 
you don't know what you're 

676
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:00,400
working towards and then also 
how are you going to measure 

677
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,700
that you've actually made 
progress because we're actually 

678
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,400
making more progress than we 
realize? 

679
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,400
But if we're not setting, these 
kind of markers is difficult to 

680
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400
look back and see that. 
So I typically work with my 

681
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000
clients inside a 12-month 
Mastermind and in that every 

682
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400
single month we have an 
intention setting workshop. 

683
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,200
And within those intention 
setting workshops we are 

684
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,300
reflecting on the Month. 
And then we're intention setting

685
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:25,400
for the month ahead. 
And there's a degree of clarity 

686
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600
around that in that the goals 
that were saying, do have some 

687
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,900
systems that up around them. 
But also people are not like 

688
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,700
locked in by this is the only 
things I'm going to do because 

689
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:37,700
all that I've written down or 
that you know life happens 

690
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,100
things change and if they don't 
get everything done that they 

691
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,300
said they were going to do is 
not like well that sucks like 

692
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:46,300
you Stark and you're rubbish. 
It's just like okay let's look 

693
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:49,300
at why this actually happened 
and what we're going to do 

694
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,000
moving forward. 
So I for me, it's very important

695
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,600
to make the process of 
manifestation flexible because 

696
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,300
everything is changing. 
All of the time. 

697
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,400
We're changing all the time and 
life changing all the time, 

698
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,100
external circuit starts the 
changing all the time. 

699
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:03,800
So we can't expect our process 
to be. 

700
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,500
Just like, oh, I'm going to 
manifest the thing, the same 

701
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:10,100
way, every single time because 
we have seasons just as life as 

702
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:14,100
seasons. 
This might not be accurate 

703
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:18,200
whatsoever, but through this 
conversation manifestation 

704
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,300
feels, I'm understanding it as 
spiritual intentional very like 

705
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,300
insightful goal setting is that 
a complete misconception or we 

706
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,800
would you say that's kind of an 
aligned understanding of what it

707
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,700
what it looks like. 
Yeah, definitely an alignment is

708
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:36,000
standing. 
I think, you know, whatever name

709
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,400
people want to give to it is the
name that empowers them most and

710
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000
if Station isn't quite 
resonating for you, but that's 

711
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,900
okay, but it really is about the
process of bringing your dreams 

712
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,800
to life and and what tools 
resources and knowledge. 

713
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,500
Are you going to use to do that 
to bring your extraordinary 

714
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,500
Vision to life? 
I love that. 

715
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,400
And I think that's really 
helpful for people to hear, 

716
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,500
especially we talked about those
two camps of the people that 

717
00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:59,700
are, like, on the outside versus
on the inside. 

718
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:02,300
And I think on the outside, 
like, the most common things 

719
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,500
that I have heard, whether it's 
on social media, or with, with 

720
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:08,500
friends, and family is it's 
like, well, like that's not 

721
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,699
going to do anything. 
If you just sit and think about 

722
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,400
something, Or you're just 
calling something into action, 

723
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,400
but there's so much more to it 
than that. 

724
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,100
It's changing, your thoughts, 
your beliefs, your identity. 

725
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,600
It's making these goals, it 
seeing the progress you've made.

726
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,100
And I think this conversation 
Illustrated that very 

727
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,699
beautifully and really brought a
lot of clarity there that 

728
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:29,199
there's so much Nuance that goes
into this process. 

729
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:34,600
Yeah. 
Totally, you know that I have 

730
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,300
one final question which is are 
there things people that you 

731
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:41,699
see? 
I mean Tick Tock, again, the 

732
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,400
biggest forms of of information 
if you looks like where people 

733
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,600
are saying things are 
manifesting, but they're just 

734
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,199
like so off base and you're 
like, that's not what you're 

735
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,800
doing, that's not what's 
happening. 

736
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,500
I can't say that I've ever 
particularly come across. 

737
00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:02,300
That what I will say though is, 
like, we do need to look at the 

738
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:04,300
lens of privilege that someone's
coming from. 

739
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,200
So, if someone saying like, 
yeah, this was really easy for 

740
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,900
me to Manifest this. 
We also need to be aware of, 

741
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,300
like, okay, what were the 
systems that allowed them to 

742
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,600
manifest it so easily. 
So if you are beating yourself 

743
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
up around things and then you're
seeing someone who's coming 

744
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,500
from, you know, maybe are 
privileged Able Body background.

745
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:23,800
Then of course there may be 
Things that make it easier for 

746
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,400
them, but just because it's 
easier for them does not mean 

747
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,300
that it's not possible for you 
to. 

748
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:32,000
And so when I talk about things 
like spiritual bypassing and 

749
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,200
conversations around race and 
manifestation as well, it's like

750
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400
these things exist. 
And it, you know, we can't just 

751
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,900
say like, oh well, you know, 
it's not spiritual to talk about

752
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,600
these harder issues because it's
absolutely spiritual to look at 

753
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,300
what we are experiencing as 
Souls on this planet right now 

754
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,600
in this moment, right? 
We can't just say, like it's not

755
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000
spiritual too. 
About and just bypass very real 

756
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,300
experiences for people or kind 
of diminish. 

757
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,700
Someone struggles, right? 
That's not fair and it's not 

758
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,300
right? 
But just because we have 

759
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,300
struggles and challenges does 
not mean that it's not also 

760
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:09,800
possible for us. 
And so I, you know, I do have 

761
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200
privileges within my own life, 
despite the fact that I did grow

762
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,200
up in care, and I had a 
challenging upbringing, I'm very

763
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,800
lucky now to like live 
somewhere. 

764
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,100
That's really beautiful and to 
have enough money to do the 

765
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,000
things I want to do in life was 
not always. 

766
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,700
Ways that way for me. 
And if I'd have just looked at 

767
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,800
the situation that I had in the 
cards hand of cards cards for 

768
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,700
pants, the hand I was dealt the 
hand, I was dealt, it would have

769
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,500
been very easy for me to say, 
well like this is it and things 

770
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:37,900
are going to be a struggle. 
Things are going to be more 

771
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:40,700
challenging, but I acknowledge 
that things. 

772
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,000
Some things were potentially 
going to be more challenging for

773
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,800
me and other people. 
And I also a manifesting, my 

774
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,500
reality, it's not an either or 
situation, I think that's huge 

775
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,000
and I think that's a big 
nuanced. 

776
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,900
A lot of the time gets lost and 
this again. 

777
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,900
It's a buzzword, it's becoming a
catch-all for many different 

778
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:01,900
forms of goal, setting and goal 
pursuing, and, and reaching your

779
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,500
dreams, and all of these things,
and we lose the insight into the

780
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,900
process and how people got to 
that end goal, and we're all at 

781
00:37:08,908 --> 00:37:11,400
those different starting points.
And so, I think that is 

782
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,800
something that's really, really 
important to remember and to 

783
00:37:14,808 --> 00:37:17,200
remind yourself especially when 
you're viewing other people's 

784
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,100
Journeys, in any aspect of life,
you mentioned in that the 

785
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,700
intersection of race and 
manifestation I would love to 

786
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,900
hear your thoughts on that. 
I know I said last question but 

787
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,100
now my interest has been piqued.
How do you? 

788
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,600
How do you see those two 
intersecting? 

789
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900
So, as I mentioned earlier that 
so much of our manifestation 

790
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:37,000
prisons about 95% of the process
is informed by our subconscious 

791
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,100
programming. 
And part of the subconscious 

792
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,200
programming is maybe some 
individual thoughts that we have

793
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:43,900
but also Collective thoughts 
that we have. 

794
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,800
So when you have things like 
internalized, oppression at 

795
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,100
play, you can't just say to a 
person of color or a black 

796
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,700
person like that. 
Yeah, I don't think that's like 

797
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,900
a real privilege. 
Well, I think that's just a 

798
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:55,900
mindset blog you have when it's 
actually societies block that 

799
00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:01,100
has been enforced upon you and 
so to undo those layers, not 

800
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,700
only of internalized, 
oppression, but also 

801
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:06,400
generational trauma and what 
your ancestors are gone through 

802
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,100
the ancestral trauma. 
That is like deep powerful work.

803
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,800
And sometimes, you know, you 
can't just throw like, oh, I'm 

804
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,100
just going to say this thing. 
One time, I'm just going to do 

805
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,200
this practice to do animation 
every day and it's all gonna go.

806
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:21,800
Yeah because like I believe like
affirmations there are hugely 

807
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,200
powerful. 
Powerful tool, but we also need 

808
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,500
to be making sure that we are 
going to the layers below just 

809
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:30,400
saying something, on the surface
level, which is why I love 

810
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,900
things like hypnosis because 
that really gets to the root of 

811
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:37,200
much deeper issues. 
And so, yeah, inside of the race

812
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,200
in manifestation piece. 
I know a lot of people will say,

813
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,800
well, oh, manifestation is only 
for privileged white people and 

814
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
that simply isn't true, but 
because that maybe typically, 

815
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,300
the people that we're seeing 
online than we feel, like if you

816
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,700
don't see someone who looks like
you, you wonder if the space is 

817
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:52,900
for you, but this space, For 
everyone. 

818
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,200
And if you don't see someone who
looks like, you know that you 

819
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,900
are welcome always. 
And that just because you don't 

820
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:02,300
see someone who looks like you 
doesn't mean it isn't possible 

821
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,900
for you even though there may be
some additional challenges that 

822
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,400
you face. 
Yeah. 

823
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,300
And I think that goes back to 
kind of helping how you frame it

824
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,000
mentally that works for you, 
like, for me thinking of it as 

825
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
goal-setting, I'm like every 
single person ever has set a 

826
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,400
goal like it has achieved a goal
that they've set whether it's to

827
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,300
get out of bed in the morning, 
or to go to School today and 

828
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,000
that can make it feel more 
accessible and reachable and 

829
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,700
possible intangible. 
And so I think the like 

830
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,900
education and curiosity and 
framing internally can also be 

831
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,400
be helpful with that, but I 
think that's something that's 

832
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,600
very true. 
And I think a lot of the ways in

833
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,400
which it's being portrayed on 
social media right now adds to 

834
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,900
that narrative as well. 
I think this conversation is 

835
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,900
going to be so helpful for so 
many people and just provide so 

836
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:49,600
much insight and Clarity on on 
goal setting and and how our 

837
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,600
thoughts and emotions and 
beliefs can impact Realities, 

838
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,300
which is something that's hugely
relevant to mental health. 

839
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
If people want to continue to 
consume your content work with 

840
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,100
you Etc, where can they find 
you? 

841
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,500
So on Instagram and Tick Tock, I
am at FES Delta underscore. 

842
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:09,600
I have a podcast, the Manifest 
edit podcast and I also have a 

843
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,500
free training on the power of 
subconscious manifestation where

844
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,300
I'm breaking down house of 
conscious manifestation actually

845
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,300
works and kind of the different 
roles that your conscious and 

846
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,800
subconscious mind play Within 
that that will really Lee, add 

847
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,500
some color to the way that you 
manifest and help that whole 

848
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,100
process. 
Be so much more streamlined, 

849
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,200
which you can check out by 
heading to a fierce ulta.com 

850
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,200
4/3, be awesome. 
Well, all of that will be in 

851
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,100
today's show notes. 
And in social media, when I 

852
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:39,100
share this episode, but thank 
you again, for coming on. 

853
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,900
She persisted and thank you for 
having me. 

854
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:46,300
Of course, to recap, this week's
episode Fe and I drove deep into

855
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,200
her journey of overcoming. 
Childhood trauma of being 

856
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,700
orphaned, we talked about the 
value of the coach client. 

857
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,200
Chip. 
We talked about exactly what 

858
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,400
manifestation is. 
We went deep here and talked 

859
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,700
about all the different 
misconceptions and buzzwords. 

860
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,400
You've seen floating around the 
internet, like angel numbers 

861
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,500
signs overnight, manifesting, 
all of that kind of stuff. 

862
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,100
We talked about the importance 
of subconscious programming. 

863
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:10,300
How mental health, and 
manifestation, interact and how 

864
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,300
race relates to manifesting. 
And so much more. 

865
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,300
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867
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868
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,900
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870
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871
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,900
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872
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