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Welcome to she persisted I'm 
your host Sadie Saxton a 19 year

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old from the Bay Area studying 
psychology at the University of 

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Pennsylvania. 
She persisted is the Teen Mental

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Health podcast made for 
teenagers by a team in each 

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episode. 
I'll bring you authentic 

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accessible and relatable 
conversations about every aspect

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of mental Wellness. 
You can expect evidence-based, 

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Tina, proof resources, coping 
skills, including lots of DBT, 

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insights and education. 
In each piece of content, you 

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consume, she persisted It offers
you a safe space to feel 

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validated and understood in your
struggle. 

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While encouraging you to take 
ownership of your journey and 

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build your life worth living. 
So let's dive in this week on. 

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She persisted, everybody is 
sharing something different. 

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I guarantee there's something 
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That is extraordinary and unique
and special and you just kind of

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need to see that. 
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is hard. 
We tend to take who we are and 

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what we're into for. 
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ourselves. 
I don't know why, but we do. 

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That was specially when we're 
young and to leverage that. 

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Hello, hello, and welcome back 
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She persisted were doing quick 
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go to Italy in two hours. 
Haven't packed need to do my 

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I'm a hot mess, but you are 
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while I'm on vacation. 
Today's episode is a really 

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phenomenal conversation. 
We're wrapping up the college 

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mental health series, and we're 
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think, cause, Has a lot of 
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right, it can really boost your 
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identity and self-esteem and all
the things which we talked about

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in this convo. 
So, Kate stone is back on the 

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podcast and we are talking about
writing your college essays. 

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We're talking about crafting 
that story forming your identity

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telling admissions readers. 
Whoever it is, that is on the 

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receiving end of your essay, 
about everything you've done and

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created in those four years of 
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So you're not familiar. 
K is an expert. 

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Coach an admissions consultant 
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youth mentorship, social 
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writing. 
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interesting perspective on this 
and she just provides so much 

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Insight here on the nitty-gritty
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between each essay? 
How can you use each different 

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section to get the most out of 
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larger questions of, how do I 
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Who am I, how do I get to the 
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story and this is how I want to 
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So this is a phenomenal 
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mentioned in this episode this 
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podcast, the first episode, we 
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So now that you're like I know 
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I got to write my essay but I 
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to that episode. 
It will be in the show notes and

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I hope you enjoyed this 
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And it takes a little bit of the
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out how to write your essay. 
So with that, let's dive in. 

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Thank you so much for joining me
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I'm so excited to have you back 
for a second episode and to talk

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all things essay writing, oh my 
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and what's Hang on for you, the 
New York Times mention. 

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I'm just really proud of what 
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It's so big and you deserve it. 
It's crazy. 

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It was so funny I talked about 
on the podcast, but I didn't 

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know that they had included it 
as a resource, someone emailed 

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me and was like, there's a link 
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And I was like, what? 
And they mention, I saw in the 

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New York Times. 
So I guess I was going to check 

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out the links and I was like, 
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And they sent me a photo and I 
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thing ever. 
So I spent like $50 in New York.

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Times website, ordering the 
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That's like my dad said it was 
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He did he like got really into, 
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York Times Sunday opinion, and 
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really into that kind of stuff. 
It was adorable. 

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Oh my God. 
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you. 
I like called they were skiing. 

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I was like, He's guess what 
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okay, they were so confused but 
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The best feeling to be able to 
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the yeah. 
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Up to this far to see that. 
It's like that actually, it was 

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so cool. 
It was funny because a couple of

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months after my final paper for 
my actually was my found, it was

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our midterm paper, we had to 
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Piece about teens and smartphone
use in the footnote was on a In 

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peace about teens and smartphone
use and I was like, worlds are 

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colliding. 
This is craziness, but it was, 

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it was fun. 
It was a really great great 

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moment for sure. 
Well, congrats, thank you. 

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Well to start this out there is 
so much that goes into applying 

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to college before you get to the
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clicking submit. 
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something every high schooler is
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ingrained in our society like 
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everything. 
Is almost like your portfolio 

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and your resume leading up to 
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college can be very 
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There's a lot of pressure there 
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And so putting that disclaimer 
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different path and that even if 
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don't know what you're into and 
you haven't found your passions 

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early on in high school or late 
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Things work out, one hundred 
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Things work out things are meant
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If things don't work out with 
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school, you want to go. 
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And so, with that context, I 
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on how to distribute your time, 
and set yourself up for Success,

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when you are crafting, that 
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context that like, this is not 
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out, put a ton of pressure. 
Here you have to do it this way,

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but also for people that do like
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coming up in the future and, and
sticking to these interest. 

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So what are your thoughts there 
with that rambling of all these 

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different ideas? 
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Well, I'm gonna give you two 
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And the first answer is for 
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well, there's something special 
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I'm not good at anything, you 
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I don't have any special talents
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My answer to you, is that the 
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explore is your love and 
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whatever. 
That might be, and it doesn't 

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have to be academic, it can be 
creative. 

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It can be Interpersonal in a 
relational, it can be a podcast,

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you just got into like Sadie's 
where you just like gobbling up 

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all the episodes and learning as
much as you can, obviously 

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you're not going to have this 
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15, 16 or even 17 or 18 years 
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for applying to college. 
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The one prerequisite is a love 
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desired to I understand things 
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insights on different subjects. 
It could be anything, it could 

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be like your love of fantasy 
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doesn't matter what it is, just 
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that Curiosity, okay? 
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for those students, who feel 
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anything. 
I'm not interested in anything I

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completely untrue. 
And there's like, and if you 

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were, if Like five minutes with 
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I could, yeah. 
I'm like 20 things that you're 

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really good at that. 
You love that, you know, a lot 

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about. 
There's an exercise, I like to 

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use and it's called the. 
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just do that with yourself. 
Do one minute of all the things 

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you love and it could it's all 
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So don't think about it. 
Don't try to figure out. 

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What should we do it? 
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Okay, yeah. 
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like one of us does? 
I love? 

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And one of us does I know? 
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We'll do a very brief. 
A diversion will do like 10 

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items that everyone's with me 
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I got the charm dot. 
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Like, anytime I see my breed of 
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them. 
I'm going to pet them, I'm 

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asking all the questions. 
I actually think about this 

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question a lot because I feel 
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interested, I go far and then 
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I really love doing hard gel 
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And I have like my whole setup, 
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drill every week, it's a whole 
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Love that. 
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absolutely adore it. 
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graphic design and social media 
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I really enjoy video editing, 
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like highlight moments from 
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Powerful conversations, loved 
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the list could go on there so 
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exactly like you said, even if 
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that have nothing to do with, 
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life, it just does. 
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I just learned like 10 different
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them I didn't know about you. 
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business side but you're just 
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side. 
So that's the point, right? 

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The point is to share in a way 
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so that people feel like, they 
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bit better. 
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to reveal like your passion your
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The I know is Maybe I'll do it 
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with. 
I know a lot about growing wild 

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flower gardens. 
I know a lot about permaculture.

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I know a lot about content 
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I know a lot about Instagram, 
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I know a lot about building 
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I know a lot about hiring and 
training employees. 

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I know a lot about 
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I know a lot about motivation. 
So all these places are going in

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all these different directions 
of things that you might know a 

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little bit about it, you might 
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Either the point is to get 
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begin to follow these threads 
because all these are like clues

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that you get to follow and 
pursue and see how far and how 

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deep you can take them right 
now. 

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I was cold enough that I think 
that's its key and just like 

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when you were listing your mind 
you're like I know so many 

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different things. 
I feel the exact same way and I 

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think it's something that I find
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you are. 
So laser focused on your own 

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journey in your own experience. 
That you forget that Everyone 

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else around, you has none of 
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your insights and your knowledge
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Like no one knows any of that. 
And so for college applications,

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especially you have to go above 
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interests cream those passions 
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through and that one 
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like the bottom of your interest
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Because again, all these 
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these different parts of their 
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Well, you touched on something 
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Get that content out. 
Onto paper through the. 

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I love the. 
I know exercise as soon as 

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it's kind of a boost. 
You actually you're going to 

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through these very simple 
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Well I do have something to 
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I do have something to 
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I am unique. 
I I have value to bring to a 

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conversation to relationship to 
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yourself is that you don't just,
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yourself that will guide you and
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Here's where I hope to go, it 

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this process is like, oh, I hope
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health. 
If you're doing it, right, and 

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the sense of like, really asking
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I just feel this like self-love 
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what's coming for me about what 
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watering the seeds of who you 
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I love that. 
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see your own potential. 
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people that you have potential. 
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able to see it for yourself 
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pursuit of the major, you're 
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I've been so many people that 

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So many different directions 
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class, you're taking those those
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I won't push myself for this. 
Her deeper subject study clubs. 

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Yes! 
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initiated something? 
Did he start something to do? 

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Scientific articles, did you 
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new in the industry? 
What's happening like things are

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changing, so fast, especially 
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Leading Edge of what you're 
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be able to write about it and 
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way and really coherent way. 
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so much available to you on the 
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recognized when students are 
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it's not like oh like I don't 
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Well look you will be I 
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If you want to study something 

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you can literally go what are 
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Five resources, chechi booty, or
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There's like a few out now of 
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get varied understanding of the 
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You can learn so much very, very
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If there is like if there's like
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curiosity like that is mmm. 
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your actions, your titties, your
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writing and then the second 
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come from, who you are now. 
That's such an important piece 

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and we'll talk about the 
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such an important piece and 
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I cannot convey that more 

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deeply. 
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growth. 
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kid that got into Harvard 
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kind of like software coding. 
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that map where you could track 
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sites in public governments and 
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user-friendly map that anyone 
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see the data and I remember is 
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This Exactly what you talked 
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in someplace. 
You are paying attention to what

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to the Forefront of your field 
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can you apply it? 
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thought that was such like a fun
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and work that Harvard. 
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again, what I always suggest 
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I couldn't come up with an idea 
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there was like, well, you know, 
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ideas like, well, you have to 
This coming up with ideas. 

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But is there somebody in your 

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life? 
Ask yourself this. 

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It's my fiance, we are coming up
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I'm not kidding you. 
We literally call him, like, 

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every hour we're also on 
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coming up with ideas. 
None, stop. 

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Because it's so Dynamic. 
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Do I have an ideas person in my 
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That's just helping me come up 
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Crazy idea, spontaneous ideas, 
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And and again do research like 
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Where does this interest in this
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Overlapping connect? 
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mentioned, which I think is a 
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and like conversation, everyone 
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of participating in existing 
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Versus starting your own thing 

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and building something from 
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And I've heard people give their
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all over, take tag all these 
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Reverencing you have to start 
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I think no one wants to like 
have you been a leadership 

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position to something that's 
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What are your thoughts there for
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these narratives and are unsure 
where to put their eggs in which

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baskets? 
Oh boy I think that's just so 

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it's getting so myopic you know.
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work in admissions. 
Yeah, let me tell you, I don't 

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know for sure, but let me tell 
you well look, I mean it doesn't

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matter where you're putting your
energy, are you just showing out

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there to get a check mark and it
Goldstar and your activities 

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list or are you showing up there
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solve conflicts, and 
disagreements, to move progress,

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forward to have an impact to 
bring forth new ideas. 

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Like, that's all that matters. 
It does not matter the context 

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in which you're doing it. 
All that matters is that you are

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taking initiative and bringing 
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devoting, some of your energy 
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Yeah, I'd love that. 
I truly do think that that's one

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of the biggest takeaways I had, 
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It is those small moments on a 
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basis that build up over time 
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project, it wasn't necessarily 
like I did this test and it 

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changed my life. 
Or I went on this. 

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This I had this one conversation
and my entire worldview is 

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shifted. 
It was like every week I'm 

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sitting there, I'm editing a 
podcast and every week I'm like 

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posting this little tiny 
Instagram story that a couple 

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people will see. 
But that led to this really in 

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my Worldview. 
I was like this is something I'm

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really proud of and this is 
where I feel really passionate 

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and driven in this area. 
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you there that like the daily 
weekly monthly Investments. 

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Add up over time and can have a 
huge return on investment. 

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Oh my gosh that is so on the 
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mention now which is for 
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don't know where to start with 
having a big impact. 

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Yeah, this is something I heard 
the other day that had such an 

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impact on me. 
Because the people who are 

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really ambitious and the people 
who really execute and get stuff

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done, it's not in having those 
big brakes or having those huge 

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impacts all at once. 
It's literally in the 

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discipline, the commitment and 
the accountability of showing up

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for those small remedial 
sometimes annoying. 

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Some usually very boring tasks, 
you know, and those are not to 

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be dismissed. 
Those are important, you're 

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keeping something moving. 
You're communicating, you're 

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keeping goals. 
On track that is actually what 

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creates that big impact is the 
small things that you show up 

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for consistently and regularly 
and if you're like, I'm not 

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motivated. 
I don't know how to do that. 

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You should listen to our other 
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exactly how to problem-solve 
there and make that consistency 

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happen. 
I've got my book coming out 

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soon. 
By the way, oh my gosh. 

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Okay. 
I'll put your website in the 

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show notes. 
People can do that. 

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I'll put the episode, everyone 
can check it out and and consume

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all the content because I think 
a lot What we're discussing the 

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first question that would come 
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how do I do that? 
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motivation and discipline comes 
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And so I think these 
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and they're very interconnected 
and so it makes 100% sense. 

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Why you are an expert in both of
these areas because they are so 

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interconnected because it's 
being able to be motivated to 

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pursue these goals and execute 
and then craft a narrative 

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around them and be able to share
that with other individuals, 

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which can be such a scale. 
So for Listeners who are like, 

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okay, I did the brainstorming, I
figured out what my interests 

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are. 
I've been like taking little 

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notes about what I'm passionate 
about, how I'm spending my time.

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What is the next step? 
Okay. 

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Well first, you have to come to 
my free Workshop because that's 

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going to get you ready. 
I take you through the whole 

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process of how to turn your 
brain storming into structure. 

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So, join my free workshops. 
We have one coming up, July 

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29th. 
And then again, in August, I 

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expect to see you all at every 
single one of Kate's workshops. 

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Yeah, it's like what's better 
than Sending once attending 

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twice or three times because we 
get something new out of it 

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every single time, but I'm going
to have a lot of free stuff 

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coming up. 
You got to come and learn from 

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someone who knows what they're 
doing. 

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00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,100
That's the first step I wouldn't
recommend like trying to figure 

456
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,900
out how to do this on your own, 
because all it takes is that 

457
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:40,900
free workshop for you to be 
like, okay, I get it. 

458
00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:42,800
I understand what it's supposed 
to look like, I understand what 

459
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,900
the purpose of the personal 
statement supposed to be. 

460
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,400
I understand how I can connect 
these different ideas through a 

461
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,800
clear topic or theme. 
And now I'm ready to go, right? 

462
00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:55,900
An outline write a draft and 
remember that first draft that 

463
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,300
you write expected to be a bad 
first draft. 

464
00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:02,200
I mean, really, just like allow 
yourself to just write without 

465
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,400
trying to make it some finished 
polished piece. 

466
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,900
What you're going to do is 
you're going to say, oh, what's 

467
00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:11,400
working and what's not working, 
and you're going to grab what's 

468
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000
working, and you're going to re 
outline restructure it, and then

469
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,700
write it again. 
Because, honestly, with students

470
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:20,500
who try to revise from a first 
draft, it just takes so much 

471
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:24,000
longer. 
Then being like, Okay, I wrote 

472
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,800
about first draft awesome but 
worked, how could I restructure 

473
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,600
this around? 
Something that's going to help 

474
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,900
me communicate different sides 
of myself and is also more 

475
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:33,400
coherent in terms of a theme, 
right? 

476
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,300
Yeah, yeah. 
And then you just write it 

477
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,000
again. 
I love what you just mentioned 

478
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,700
there. 
You can learn from someone. 

479
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,000
And when you are navigating, 
this college application 

480
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,900
process, because so many 
students are going in blind, 

481
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,100
like maybe if you're lucky, your
English teacher will offer to 

482
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:50,300
revise it or they'll offer to 
have that as an assignment 

483
00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:53,000
during your semester. 
But for the most part, so, Any 

484
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,100
students are just expected to 
know exactly how to write a 

485
00:23:56,108 --> 00:23:59,700
personal statement and write a 
supplemental essay and manage. 

486
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:02,900
The workflow of writing 17 
different assays in six months. 

487
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,300
Oh yeah. 
I mean when it has a 17 year old

488
00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:09,400
ever had to write an essay like 
this at all, like typically they

489
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800
have English class and English 
classes. 

490
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,300
Like here's the final paragraph,
academic essay, and let's focus 

491
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:17,700
on thesis statement and topic 
sentences. 

492
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:24,300
And it's not even it's tedious 
and it's not Have really at all.

493
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,600
And this is about creativity. 
Like you can write a 

494
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,400
one-sentence paragraph As a 
transitionary statement. 

495
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:35,100
You can break the rules, you can
do things that are like Edgar 

496
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:38,600
Allan Poe ishino, you can do all
sorts of stuff Break. 

497
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,400
The Rules break the rules, and 
it's so hard because you've been

498
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,700
sort of trained and primed to 
like follow the instructions and

499
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:47,500
like right in a very specific 
way. 

500
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:51,500
And unfortunately, that's like 
to most students detriment in 

501
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,500
this process because This 
process, you kind of need to let

502
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:58,600
go and go deep within yourself 
and make it more about 

503
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,500
journaling, you know. 
Right. 

504
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:03,500
Like conversational what's what 
really matters to you? 

505
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,900
Who really are you? 
So you can bridge that 

506
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:09,600
connection with your reader so 
that they feel like they get you

507
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,000
and this is really important 
because what you're really 

508
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000
trying to do with all of your 
essays is to get admissions in 

509
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,600
your corner so that they can be 
like oh I get the who this tune 

510
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,800
is there like an inventor Sage 
you know? 

511
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,600
And right over to admissions, 
the emissions were be like, hey,

512
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,100
you gotta look at this kid. 
They fit into this, this Niche 

513
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,500
perfectly. 
So you're really trying to do 

514
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:34,000
three things to get them in your
corner, you to make an emotional

515
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,200
connection to your reader by 
first making an emotional 

516
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,400
connection to yourself. 
So, you have to be invested in 

517
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,000
this process. 
If you wanted someone who's 

518
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,800
reading it to be invested in it 
to, right? 

519
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,000
And you just do that with 
sincerity forthrightness about 

520
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,700
your vulnerabilities and you're 
like the places where you're 

521
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,500
weak in the places where you're 
strong. 

522
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,100
This is not like, look how great
I am. 

523
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:56,200
This is actually, this is who I 
am Works in all here, and beauty

524
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,200
and all and then finding your 
stories theme. 

525
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,200
The the distance traveled theme,
you know, I'm looking at active 

526
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,100
nouns, are you an inventor, are 
you a catalyst or you initiator?

527
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,800
Are you a performer? 
Are you a, you know, a wise old 

528
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,000
sage. 
Who are you? 

529
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,900
What roles do you play? 
What identities do you? 

530
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:15,300
Hold it makes it easy for them 
to advocate for you because they

531
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,900
can clearly communicate it to 
somebody else, right? 

532
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000
It's like writing good marketing
copy. 

533
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,200
It's just easy. 
You get it, you don't Try too 

534
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,200
hard to understand it and then 
the third one is understanding 

535
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,000
who you are in the context of 
the academic roster in 

536
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,200
admissions, right? 
Like what Niche am I filling in 

537
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,700
the school because that's really
what they're trying to do. 

538
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:39,000
It's like casting a class? 
Yeah, you know, for individuals 

539
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,700
that don't have older siblings 
or aren't tapped into this, this

540
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,600
community. 
What are some of those niches 

541
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,200
they're like, okay, I need to be
part of a niche. 

542
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,300
But if we were all the same age,
we're all coming from high 

543
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,800
school, a lot of us have played 
sports or whatever it is. 

544
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:52,700
What are these needles that 
you're thinking about? 

545
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,200
About when you're working with 
high school students? 

546
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Well it might be a combination, 
right? 

547
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,400
Like you might be interim otix 
but also technology and 

548
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,700
Community Connection. 
Like you want to look at 

549
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:07,700
productive tensions, you have 
between your extracurriculars, 

550
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,600
your personal side and your 
academic side. 

551
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:12,200
You want to look at where these 
things overlap a niche. 

552
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,100
It doesn't have to be like I'm 
the doctor girl. 

553
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:18,100
Like that's, you know, and it 
could be more complex and more 

554
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,300
nuanced than that. 
And honestly you want it to be 

555
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,700
because you are more nuanced. 
Test and it comes back to 

556
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,700
recognizing. 
Like, when I take my students 

557
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:28,600
through, let's say a different 
types of exercises and I have 

558
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,900
them throw their answers and the
chat like their top answers for 

559
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,400
this exercise with that 
exercise. 

560
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,900
They realize everybody is 
something different. 

561
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:38,600
Everybody is sharing something 
different. 

562
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,100
I guarantee there's something 
about you. 

563
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:45,200
That is extraordinary and unique
and special and you just kind of

564
00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:48,300
need to see that. 
And I know sometimes that part 

565
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,400
is hard. 
We tend to take who we are and 

566
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,200
what we're into for granted 
Downplay ourselves. 

567
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200
I don't know why, but we do 
that, especially when we're 

568
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,500
young and to leverage that 
because in your life are always 

569
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:03,400
going to have to leverage your 
skills in the marketplace and 

570
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,700
you're going to like, at some 
point, you're going to have to 

571
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,600
learn how to do this. 
So, start practicing with it. 

572
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,800
Now, you know, about the niches 
could be, the niches are 

573
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,600
generally speaking academic, but
they always overlap with how 

574
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,800
you're going to contribute to 
the community and the culture. 

575
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,800
So they're looking for academic,
personal cultural fit. 

576
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:23,700
Fit with the school. 
Those are the three things that 

577
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:29,000
looking at and the niches are 
unlimited, you know, and their 

578
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,800
endless and you can just make 
them up. 

579
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,700
You love that. 
You know, I think that's key and

580
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,800
I think it gives a lot of 
comfort and peace. 

581
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200
If you apply to a school and it 
doesn't end up being a Fed. 

582
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Are you don't end up getting in 
like when I think about pain, 

583
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600
now being there on the side, 
other side of things I was like,

584
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,800
okay. 
But I was applying to the 

585
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,600
College of Arts and Sciences, 
people are applying to the 

586
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,600
engineering school pure playing 
to the business school. 

587
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800
People are applying to the 
nursing school and so it's like 

588
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,000
They can't have more individuals
in the nursing school than the 

589
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
capacity allows like they're not
going to throw them in the 

590
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,500
College of Arts and Sciences 
school. 

591
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,400
It's the same thing with these 
niches like if you have 300, 

592
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,500
people who love robotic not 
going to have a very diverse 

593
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:08,300
class. 
And so he thinking about it from

594
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,500
that perspective, that again, 
it's not necessarily a 

595
00:29:11,508 --> 00:29:15,500
reflection of you not being good
enough for the school or not 

596
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,200
writing your essay, right? 
It's just that it's in a lot of 

597
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,800
ways like a numbers game and a 
very different experience. 

598
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,600
Experience that it feels like as
a high schooler when you're 

599
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
saying I'm putting all these 
best parts of myself to let 

600
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
someone else judge and then 
they're making a decision that's

601
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,500
going to impact the rest of my 
life. 

602
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,400
Like that can be very 
overwhelming. 

603
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,300
Well, let me just tell you right
now. 

604
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:40,100
That right now is not going to 
determine the rest of your life.

605
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,900
Yeah. 
Like college does not determine 

606
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:44,900
the rest of your life and 
there's a great Malcolm Gladwell

607
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:49,500
talk where he addresses there is
a bottom, 50% of Harvard 

608
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,200
academic class, okay. 
But those That bottom 50% is 

609
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,100
still the top 50 percent of 
those students in like lower 

610
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,100
quote-unquote, lower tier 
schools, right? 

611
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600
And oftentimes those students 
who are in the lower half at 

612
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,300
Harvard because they compare 
themselves so much to their 

613
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:11,800
peers that they tend not to 
publish, even anywhere close to 

614
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,900
the top half because they don't 
feel good enough. 

615
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:20,100
And they are comparing 
themselves to to their peers and

616
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,500
so they don't even try so so 
it's a really it's a very very 

617
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:25,800
interesting YouTube. 
You should actually go listen to

618
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,500
it. 
It's called why I said yes to 

619
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,200
this. 
And it's like talking about why 

620
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,000
we say yes to Elite institutions
and it'll eat only experiences. 

621
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,800
When actually the psychology and
the data show that we can do 

622
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,200
much better in pools where it's 
not as competitive, but we can 

623
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,500
shine, we can actually shine 
bigger. 

624
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Yeah, I'm going to watch that 
after that sounds so 

625
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,200
fascinating. 
So we talked about what your 

626
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,700
goal is with your application, 
which is young people in. 

627
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:53,900
Corner and follow. 
Those three steps. 

628
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,700
If you were to explain to 
individuals who haven't written 

629
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800
a supplemental, a say, haven't 
written their personal 

630
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,500
statement, what your goal is and
what your frame of thought 

631
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,800
should be for writing those 
different assays. 

632
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,400
How would you explain that to 
someone who's coming in blind is

633
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,700
like, I'm looking at the comment
out for the first time. 

634
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:14,500
I don't know what the my aim is 
for each of these asses. 

635
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,900
Okay. 
So this is where spreadsheets 

636
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:19,300
are really, really great. 
And I have a really great essay 

637
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,700
tracker for this. 
I might actually send it. 

638
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,900
It to you to keep track of it 
because it'll help you keep 

639
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,100
track of your different topics 
and making sure you're not 

640
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,300
overlapping or repeating 
information in your essays. 

641
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,600
You do want to be cautious 
about, it is important but your 

642
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
personal statement is supposed 
to be personal, right? 

643
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000
It's supposed to be much, much 
more personal. 

644
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,100
It's not supposed to be like an 
every citation of your 

645
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,900
activities list. 
It's not supposed to be a recent

646
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:47,700
Tatian of your accomplishments, 
it should have that element of. 

647
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:51,300
Like, I get this, I get the 
heart and vulnerability and I 

648
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,000
understand. 
This person is on the soul level

649
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,700
on the feeling level, the 
extracurriculars, are you really

650
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,400
have to read those prompts 
carefully? 

651
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,700
Because a lot of students don't 
understand what the problem is 

652
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:06,700
actually asking, or they're not 
complete completing the prompt 

653
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:09,300
in terms of like answering all 
the questions. 

654
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:14,400
It's asking but extracurricular 
essays, that's one topic or they

655
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,600
just really usually generally 
want to know what type of impact

656
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,700
you've had, how you've 
contributed to that Community or

657
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,500
that experience. 
Or a challenge you experienced 

658
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,800
or what you learned, they're 
trying to understand different 

659
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,600
sides of you, you know, how 
would you operate in this 

660
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,100
situation? 
So how did you help your 

661
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:35,300
community in the situation? 
So you want to make sure that 

662
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:40,600
you have different topics for 
different prompts or if you 

663
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,200
don't have enough extra 
curriculars, which I get it 

664
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,700
because some of you totally 
missed out on early high school 

665
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:48,800
and, you know, just the 
challenges of not being in 

666
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,700
person, you just didn't get 
opportunities to do enough. 

667
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:53,500
Ours. 
Then what you have to do is you 

668
00:32:53,508 --> 00:32:56,700
have to talk about your 
extracurriculars, or your topics

669
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,800
in different ways from different
angles. 

670
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,500
So that's where brainstorming 
the content. 

671
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,300
Like, here's what I did here are
the problems I saw. 

672
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,900
Here's the impact. 
I have I had a, here's what I 

673
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,100
learned. 
Here's the lessons I gathered. 

674
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,600
Here's how it changed me. 
So you just want to get as much 

675
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,400
content as you can so you can 
begin to determine. 

676
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Okay. 
This is going to go here. 

677
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,300
That's going to go here and go 
deep. 

678
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,600
You're going to have to actually
get more specific. 

679
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,400
And a lot deeper with your 
content if you have less stuff 

680
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000
to write about, right? 
This is a very subjective 

681
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,300
question, but I'm wondering if 
you ever work with students in 

682
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,400
your like, you're putting too 
much time into this, like, 

683
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,700
they're just like beating 
themselves up over making it. 

684
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,100
Absolutely perfect. 
And then the flip side, like, 

685
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,300
starting it a day before, like 
there has to be a happy medium 

686
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:46,200
of iterating, improving your 
essays and then being like it's 

687
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,100
no longer effective to keep 
looking at the same piece of 

688
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,800
paper and try To make it 
perfect. 

689
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200
So what are your thoughts there 
with timeline and knowing when 

690
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,800
to wrap up the process? 
Well, it depends on how many 

691
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,000
schools you're applying to. 
But if you're applying like 10 

692
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,400
schools, if you start now at 
minimum is about 24 hours a week

693
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,900
and that's drafting revising and
researching. 

694
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,800
Because in some cases, maybe 
there are things that you've 

695
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,699
experienced that you haven't 
adequately analyzed, or 

696
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,500
evaluated for the value, you've 
gained from them. 

697
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,300
And that's what this process is 
is Airing out. 

698
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:25,000
What did I actually learned? 
Yeah, you know like I've been 

699
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
doing doing doing now. 
I have to stop and reflect so 

700
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,900
sometimes it takes a little bit 
of time to do some research and 

701
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,100
understand the subject from 
multiple angles. 

702
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,400
So that you actually have 
something to say about some of 

703
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,199
these things and it's okay if 
you don't have something to say 

704
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,500
right now, it can take a little 
exploration to figure that out. 

705
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,800
If I have a student that's just 
pouring over like Ford five 

706
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,400
hours a night that's too much 
that's way too much go with 

707
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,500
imperfect and that's If you're 
working with somebody like me, 

708
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,100
that's what I'm here for. 
I'm here to take what you did 

709
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000
and move it along Faster by up, 
leveling it with you. 

710
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:06,500
My showing you exactly the 
points to address and up level 

711
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,300
without, like losing your mind 
over word choice. 

712
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:10,900
Like, it doesn't matter. 
It doesn't matter. 

713
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:12,700
Now you're making it too, 
complicated. 

714
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
You worried about syntax where 
you don't really need to be 

715
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,200
worried about syntax, the first 
version was fine and that's not 

716
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200
going to be the thing that 
shifts it. 

717
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,200
The thing that shifts it is, The
specificity and the insights how

718
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,700
you answer. 
Like here's how this contributed

719
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:29,000
to my growth and development. 
This is what I came away with 

720
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:32,000
this is what I learned and these
are the questions I'm left with 

721
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,300
what is your advice on who you 
take feedback from and how many 

722
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,100
people you let read your essay? 
Because I know that was 

723
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:44,400
something in my experience which
I it was very intentional. 

724
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,500
I was like okay my parents have 
like had a front-row seat to 

725
00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:48,100
this whole experience. 
They've been with me through 

726
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,400
three high schools. 
We're seeing it to my English 

727
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600
teacher who I'd known for one 
semester. 

728
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,600
She was like, I don't really get
it, we will, of course you don't

729
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,000
get it because you don't know 
me. 

730
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,400
I know that a lot of students 
give their essay to their 

731
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,500
English teacher because I often 
get to see those notes. 

732
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:10,200
And a lot of the time, the notes
that they give like 20% are good

733
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,600
and then the other portion 
aren't going to make necessarily

734
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,600
A Difference. 
You know, a lot of people are 

735
00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,200
going to have a lot of feedback 
for you. 

736
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,100
Someone's gonna be like, no 
change this, and start this at 

737
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,600
the beginning instead of this 
way. 

738
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,300
Drill, start over. 
It's terrible. 

739
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,200
I literally had a student this 
past year. 

740
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,800
Who's the English teacher was 
like, I think you should start 

741
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,100
over again and I was like, 
that's not constructive. 

742
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,700
How is that constructive? 
Like you have no idea how long 

743
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,900
this student we have exhausted, 
so many different options. 

744
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:39,900
And this is what we've been 
working on for two months. 

745
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,100
And if they say that to, you ask
them give context. 

746
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,000
Look, I've been working on this 
for six weeks. 

747
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,500
Can you please give me 
constructive feedback? 

748
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,500
You know, not just criticism 
constructive. 

749
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:56,000
And you really, I mean I want to
be sincere when I say this, but 

750
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
you really want to ask somebody 
who knows something about 

751
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
college essays. 
Like, is there somebody who 

752
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,400
knows something about college 
essays in your life, if not 

753
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,200
trying to find them? 
Because that's what happens. 

754
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,500
A lot is that people end up 
giving feedback that's actually 

755
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,100
the antithesis of what the 
purpose of the statement 

756
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,300
supposed to be doing, like, what
purpose, it's actually supposed 

757
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:17,900
to be serving. 
Do you know what I mean? 

758
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:19,600
And the feedback sort of 
irrelevant. 

759
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,100
It's like, yeah, everybody look,
you have so many for A back, 

760
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:23,700
everybody's going to have their 
10 cents. 

761
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,400
You have to be able to discern. 
What's good, feedback versus 

762
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:31,000
what's just somebody's creative 
style. 

763
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,500
You know, like this, I have 
students do that with me. 

764
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,100
I tell students, if you don't 
agree with this, no, this is a 

765
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,700
stylistic note. 
You can agree or disagree. 

766
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Like, you have to understand the
difference, you know, yeah. 

767
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:49,500
What are the biggest mistakes? 
You see students making 

768
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:51,600
throughout this process, whether
it's how they're approaching? 

769
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,300
Get writing submitting any point
in this process. 

770
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,400
What are the biggest mistakes 
were like, oh, this is, so not 

771
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,300
effective. 
I wish you could avoid all this 

772
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,400
stress, or whatever it is. 
Okay. 

773
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:06,100
Number one is not finalizing. 
Your college list by September, 

774
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,000
like early September, you really
should have that pretty much 

775
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,900
finalize, your 10 schools, your 
targets, your reaches your 

776
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:15,000
safeties like pretty much 
finalized because then you need 

777
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,800
to figure out your strategy for 
early. 

778
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,700
If you're doing early action, 
early decision, because those 

779
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,900
are either going to be due 
October 15th for A couple 

780
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,500
schools or November 1st, which 
is like the main first early 

781
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,900
deadline. 
And if you're applying to like 

782
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:31,300
you know, I had a student last 
year who we are working on a 

783
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:34,800
Columbia early action school and
it was just a slow process 

784
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,000
because it really depends on you
have to evaluate yourself in 

785
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,600
terms of how strong are you as a
writer? 

786
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,500
Like, are you good at taking 
notes? 

787
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,200
Are you consistent at being able
to turn this stuff over? 

788
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,000
Does it take you a long time? 
Do you need more help? 

789
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,800
Because if you're trying to get 
through to three early action 

790
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,600
applications, you're going to be
much more than a month. 

791
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,400
Do that you're going to need to 
like possibly three to get those

792
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,100
done and in Tip-Top shape 
because you don't want to submit

793
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,900
some part work. 
It's like what's the point. 

794
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,900
Especially if it's like your 
early action. 

795
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,100
Early decision, your eggs are in
that basket. 

796
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,900
You want to say except up for 
Success? 

797
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,900
Exactly. 
And also starting early, a lot 

798
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,100
of students are like yeah, I'm 
going to start the summer and 

799
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:16,000
then we start and I don't hear 
from them for weeks and then 

800
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,600
suddenly it's time to go back to
school. 

801
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,500
And students think okay well 
I'll just get it done on the 

802
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:23,500
weekend or on Saturday morning. 
Over winter break ever went. 

803
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:28,600
Yeah, all this stuff and it's 
like oh it's a really bad idea 

804
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,700
because it is so stressful. 
If you have all this free time 

805
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:37,700
all you need is like you know a 
couple hours a week to devote to

806
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:39,900
it and the rest of the time you 
can take for your summer, enjoy 

807
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,800
a relaxed like do your thing, do
your stuff but it's the students

808
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,600
that are the most relaxed that 
have the best outcomes at the 

809
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,000
end of the year. 
They get their college lists in 

810
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,900
on time, they figure out their 
early action. 

811
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,900
And she really early, they are. 
If you look if you haven't asked

812
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:58,800
your teachers for four letters 
of Rec, I highly recommend you 

813
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,100
do that now, make sure you 
follow up with them thanking 

814
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:03,700
them, giving them a brag sheet 
if they ask for it. 

815
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Look, the letters of 
recommendation. 

816
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400
Are there to tell a story about 
you that you have not that 

817
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,100
you're not able to tell or you 
haven't told adequately because 

818
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,500
you can't I get teachers going 
to be able. 

819
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:15,800
Yeah better. 
Yeah and then your application. 

820
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,500
So every piece of the 
application from the additional 

821
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,800
info section, which you think is
like, well I wouldn't use that. 

822
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400
Yes, you will. 
You will use the additional info

823
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,300
because there might be context 
of admissions needs to know 

824
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:30,300
about your class choices, 
whether there's like a break 

825
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,500
that you had to take off from 
school because a family relative

826
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,800
passed away suddenly if there 
was stuff going on in your 

827
00:40:36,808 --> 00:40:39,300
household that prevented you 
from being able to study for 

828
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:42,600
certain things or do your best 
in certain ways, they have to 

829
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,100
understand the holistic nature 
of who you are and what you've 

830
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,200
been through. 
It's not just like data on a 

831
00:40:49,207 --> 00:40:51,300
piece of paper to them. 
They want to know these pieces 

832
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,100
of content. 
Is that really have no other? 

833
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
There's no other way to fit them
into the rest of application, 

834
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,600
unless you leave them into the 
writing. 

835
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,600
So it's really just there to 
help them. 

836
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,300
Understand you more deeply but 
the letters of Rec the essays, 

837
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,500
the activities list your 
transcript. 

838
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:11,300
All of these things tell a story
and so like I said start early 

839
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,000
like do not wait until the fall 
to begin this process and ask 

840
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,400
your teachers early for those 
letters of Rec, if you haven't 

841
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
already. 
They'll thank you and the right.

842
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,600
You better letter. 
So you don't want an average 

843
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,900
letter, you want to give them 
the time. 

844
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,000
The respect, they're doing this 
on their own time on weekends or

845
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,800
at night, give them the time and
respect to let them know ahead 

846
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,300
of time. 
Not just like two weeks before 

847
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,700
the deadline that you need their
letter like, absolutely, you 

848
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:39,400
know. 
Yeah. 

849
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200
I mean, it's basic common sense.
I know students have so much 

850
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,800
stuff on their plate, sometimes 
it's really hard to think about 

851
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,400
these things. 
There's a lot, any parting 

852
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,900
advice or a first step that 
people can stop listening to. 

853
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,900
Podcasting go Implement within 
their, their college essay, 

854
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:58,800
writing Journey. 
Whether it is doing the, I think

855
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,000
I'll of practice or on a daily 
basis reflecting on how they're 

856
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,600
spending their time, what is 
their one action step that you 

857
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200
think will set them up for 
success and be a really 

858
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,900
effective use of their time, 
okay? 

859
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:14,400
And this is done by executive 
function stuff, which I know is 

860
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,100
something we all need more of in
our life Turtle. 

861
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:21,200
I'm time block time block out. 
First of all, put together all 

862
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000
the things you No, you need to 
do and begin doing. 

863
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Whether that's like sign up for 
Kate's free Workshop. 

864
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Write that down will list. 
Come up with a few ideas for my 

865
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,100
essays and I'm considering 
because you can bring this to my

866
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:33,800
workshop you can ask me 
questions about it and I'll 

867
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200
happily give you feedback right 
down. 

868
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,100
Ask my teachers for letters of 
Rec. 

869
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:42,300
If you're still in school do it 
now and asterisk that like make 

870
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:45,100
sure to follow up with a 
follow-up, email from them, be 

871
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,200
thanking them using Kate's brag 
sheet that we're going to put 

872
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,500
Below in the show down in the 
show notes. 

873
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:54,200
So put on Those tasks that we 
talked about right? 

874
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,800
And then if you maybe you 
already know which schools you 

875
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,100
want to apply to gather their 
prompts they do they do put out 

876
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,200
the new prompts of the beginning
of August but they usually don't

877
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,500
change that much. 
So chances are those essay 

878
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,600
prompts are going to stay the 
same anyway but yeah just FYI. 

879
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,400
So put those down and then start
time, blocking out okay I'm 

880
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200
going to start working. 
I'm going to go to this workshop

881
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,300
on this day. 
Then IMA start working on my 

882
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,100
personal statement on this day, 
like Saturday mornings is my day

883
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,600
for college stuff, Tuesday, 
night's, I'm going to tell my 

884
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,300
parents And so they don't bug me
every single day for the next 

885
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:26,700
two months. 
Okay? 

886
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:29,500
Mom, like I'm designating 
Tuesday night as College 

887
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:32,500
discussion night and that's it. 
Like, I don't want to hear about

888
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,400
it, you know. 
Like, you can take proactive 

889
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,500
steps to prevent yourself from 
feeling, like everyone is on 

890
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:40,800
you. 
So start writing down all those 

891
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800
things that, you know, you need 
to tell your parents, to go your

892
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,900
Google calendar. 
They'll never bug you again. 

893
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:49,000
They won't like, chunk it into 
specific tasks that can get done

894
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,700
at the same time and then start 
time blocking out just two hours

895
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:53,900
a week. 
To start, I love that and I 

896
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,500
think that's huge. 
And if you carry that practice 

897
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,400
through to the end of 
application season, you'll be in

898
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,400
such good shape and you'll avoid
what so many high schoolers 

899
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,800
experience, which is just the 
stress and burnout and overwhelm

900
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,100
of being in a really important 
semester and having more 

901
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:13,900
challenging classes. 
And also, navigating this huge 

902
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:16,700
laundry list of timelines and 
things that have to get turned 

903
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:18,600
in. 
So, I think that is essential to

904
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,900
being successful throughout the 
whole process. 

905
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,100
Yes. 
And And that's a good point is, 

906
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:27,100
you can get time looked like 
college deadlines, like just 

907
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,500
College everything when you 
should have your list when you 

908
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,200
should have this. 
And just put that into your 

909
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,000
calendar with reminders, like, 
okay, this is due in two weeks, 

910
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,300
don't just let it sit in your 
calendar and make sure you 

911
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:41,700
schedule the time to work on 
that stuff to otherwise, if it's

912
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,600
not time to actually work on it 
and it's just the deadline in 

913
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,700
there, that'll come up in the 
deadline and it won't happen. 

914
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:53,300
So yeah, do both. 
Yes, 100%. 

915
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,500
No, I think that's key. 
Thank you so much. 

916
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,400
I'm gonna like down. 
Listen back to my sister. 

917
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,300
I have to listen the whole 
thing. 

918
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,700
Yeah. 
All your tips are necessary, but

919
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,200
I think this will be so 
incredibly helpful for high 

920
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,400
school students that I there 
have this on the horizon parents

921
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,700
that don't know how to support 
their teens. 

922
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:14,000
And it's been like 30 thousand 
years since they apply to 

923
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,500
college and they're like we just
showed up and you're like if 

924
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,700
only you knew what the process 
is like now they have no idea. 

925
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,100
It's got Snuffy, it's crazy. 
See. 

926
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,100
So I hope this has really 
helped. 

927
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,700
I know, it will be, it was 
helpful for me and I wish I had 

928
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:28,800
listened to this conversation 
when I was going through this 

929
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,500
whole process because it just 
has evolved so quickly. 

930
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:34,200
And there's so much to stay on 
top of. 

931
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,500
And for a lot of teens, is the 
first time they've ever taken on

932
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,300
anything of this scale. 
So, thank you for all of this 

933
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:42,600
info and recommendations and 
insight. 

934
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,200
And I know it's going to be so 
helpful. 

935
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,500
Can I add one more thing about 
the early strategy? 

936
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:51,500
Of course, more and more. 
So the early application pools 

937
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:55,200
those Getting like 50 to 60 
percent of the class is being 

938
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,300
filled by those early 
application pools. 

939
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,400
Yeah. 
So that's why I'm saying, focus 

940
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
in turn are early strategy right
away. 

941
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,500
Like if you know where you want 
to go early action, it and make 

942
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:08,800
sure you look at the data to 
look at your specific school. 

943
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Like how many people did they 
take in from the early? 

944
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,200
How many people did they take in
from and you'll be able to 

945
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,800
understand that strategy. 
If you you know, if you don't 

946
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,800
have any help for this. 
Yeah and that's someone who did 

947
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,800
early decision I cannot even 
explain to you how unstressed I 

948
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,600
I was come winter break. 
I was like, this is great. 

949
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,300
I'm done like it obviously 
doesn't work out that way for 

950
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:31,400
everyone and there are such a 
process. 

951
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,500
If you're reworking your essay 
over winter break and getting it

952
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,700
all your other applications. 
But if it does work out for 

953
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:41,300
early action, early decision, 
you'll be so much less stressed.

954
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:44,000
Oh, yeah, I want that for 
everybody listening. 

955
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Yeah, yeah. 
And actually defended area for 

956
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,800
everyone listening. 
Yes, we are. 

957
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,300
Thank you so much for saying, 
course, where can people Find 

958
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,100
your website. 
Find your resources. 

959
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:57,100
Follow along on social media, 
all of the things, okay? 

960
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,500
So for those of you wanting to 
sign up for my free workshops, 

961
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:05,800
which go now, go to university, 
gurus.com workshops and you'll 

962
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,300
see a whole bunch up there. 
You'll see. 

963
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,500
We actually have one coming up. 
So, go to the workshops, sign up

964
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,700
that I'll sign you up for my 
newsletter, which will get like 

965
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:15,800
lots of really, really valuable 
tips and content on upcoming 

966
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,500
events and just stuff to be 
aware of as we go through this 

967
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:21,400
process, it will kind of like 
help you stay on track to to get

968
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,200
the news. 
Letter. 

969
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
That's what I try to make that 
about is, like, helping people. 

970
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,900
Stay on track. 
That's keeping it front of mind 

971
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:28,800
every single week. 
Yeah, exactly. 

972
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,500
And I'm super diligent about 
sending that out every week, and

973
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:35,000
then go to my Instagram because 
I try to keep that fun. 

974
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,700
And it's Kate France. 
Stone on Instagram. 

975
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,800
And if you want to do a 
one-on-one consult and just 

976
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,800
learn about, do I need 
one-on-one. 

977
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Help is something that I 
shouldn't be looking to. 

978
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,900
We can talk about that. 
I can figure out if you would be

979
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:54,700
a good candidate for One-on-one 
coaching program, go to 

980
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:59,800
university gurus.com. / consult,
or / chat either one work, 

981
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,700
University guru.com / chat. 
Yeah, amazing. 

982
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,500
All of that will be in the show 
notes. 

983
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,700
Thank you again. 
I'm so glad we got to do a part 

984
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:08,400
2. 
I know me, too. 

985
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,600
This is awesome. 
Thank you so much for listening 

986
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,500
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987
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:14,900
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993
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