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Welcome to episode 8 of design, 
curious podcast. 

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I am your host and Mentor 
Rebecca Ward. 

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Today I have a wonderful 
interview with Andrea Reardon. 

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She is a designer in the Dallas 
Fort Worth area and has a 

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residential firm there that she 
started in 2020. 

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She's a self-proclaimed 
corporate drop out. 

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So she switched careers from the
corporate world and then went 

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into design and today, we're 
talking about how she juggled 

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The transition and the 
recommendation she has for 

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people who come from another 
full-time job and want to go 

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into interior design, she has 
two degrees from Texas, 

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Christian University, one in 
business finance, and wanted 

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interior design. 
While she was finishing, her 

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business degree, she took one 
and interior design course, and 

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was hooked after graduation. 
She squeezed in TCU interior 

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design classes, whenever she 
could while working full-time 

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trading, crude oil Natural Gas. 
And electricity. 

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So it sounds like an intensive 
job, she loves what she does 

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meeting people seeing their 
projects and developing Design 

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Concepts to make their homes 
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She's a planner and doesn't like
surprises. 

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So, she tends to work ahead and 
voice stressful situations, very

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smart. 
She can keep project on time and

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on budget. 
And as she might mention, she 

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once ran a two billion dollar 
trading portfolio of crude oil, 

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derivatives so she knows Her 
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She can handle her job and she 
uses all of that experience for 

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her clients. 
So I'm really excited to get 

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into the interview today. 
Let's hear from Andrea. 

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You're now listening to design, 
curious a place where you 

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creative one are here to learn 
about what it really is. 

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Like, to be an interior designer
and I'm your host and Mentor 

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Rebecca, Ward, if you're worried
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creative career, if you're ready
to learn your next steps to 

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become an Interior Designer. 
And if you want the satisfaction

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of doing something you love 
every day, you are in the right 

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place, grab a coffee, a 
notebook, and let's dig into 

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today's episode. 
Hi Andrea. 

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It's great to have you on the 
show today. 

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Thanks for being here. 
Thanks, Rebecca's. 

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Nice to talk to you. 
You two, aren't you? 

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Tell our audience where you're 
located and the name of your 

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company. 
So I live in Texas where in the 

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Dallas-Fort Worth Suburbia. 
So there's a lot of North Texas.

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My firm is my name is Andrea 
Reardon design LLC. 

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Right. 
And how long have you been in 

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business? 
I formed my own. 

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I'll see about four and a half 
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I want full time into interior 
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Almost exactly two years ago. 
Okay, 12 years in a couple 

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weeks. 
Uh-huh. 

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All right. 
Wow. 

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So let's go back to when you 
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designer, what was going on in 
your life when I first wanted to

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come in and here tonight. 
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Like, how did you know? 
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So how did you know I was in 
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And I mean, Because I had kind 
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engineering school and I went in
my parents sent me to business 

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school, but I wanted to be an 
interior design. 

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They said, no, you're just going
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was able to take one class and 
interior design when I was 

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finishing my finance degree, 
which was the fall of 97, a 

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couple of years and loved it. 
So after I earned my business 

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degree that my parents paid for 
and I'm very grateful for, I 

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went back and over many years 
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degree, kind of into Effort 
tranches and two periods of 

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time. 
But then after all of that, I 

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graduated in 09 and it was not a
great time, right? 

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Being design. 
So I excuse the dog collar. 

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I went back into Finance, okay. 
Am I worked for a certain, 

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billionaire, family in Fort 
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worked for a wholesale power 
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half years. 
But during that time, I started 

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my company. 
Okay, the other side, huh? 

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Little side hustle. 
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So was it just the class that 
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during business school that got 
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you always have a creative bent 
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Yeah, I've always had that I 
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I was the first student at my 
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cat. 
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So I'd always kind of had that 
side and clearly engineering was

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not for me. 
So, it was kind of Just figure 

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out the right combination of 
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Mm-hmm. 
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Okay. 
Does that make sense? 

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Yeah. 
So you're saying your parents 

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wanted you to kind of do 
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Right? 
So, yeah, I mean, I grew up in 

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Iowa in the Midwest and, you 
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you know, in our small town, 
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successful interior designer 
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like it is in Dallas or engine. 
California or New York or you 

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know that just wasn't in their 
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And I respect that they wanted 
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saw as her stable. 
And it certainly, you know, in 

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the business world, it's less 
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cycle. 
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I understand all that. 
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coming from. 
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I think definitely is giving you
a leg up now that you started 

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your own business. 
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It's interesting to see how much
of it does cross over, and I'm 

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using it a lot more than I 
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sure and my business experience 
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accounting departments and HR 
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It's interesting for. 
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Then let's talk about when you 
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license and you started your 
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working full time for your other
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Yeah, okay. 
I was and it was a really 

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stressful job and I was working 
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clients and my other job would 
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night, all hours and expect me 
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power plants and I mean a wrong 
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mistake and it was just it was 
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really enjoyed it and enjoyed 
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everybody, I just really wanted 
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Something a little more creative
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So that's where I really decided
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Now, my younger son was in first
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of a business. 
Expert told me, it was a really 

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bad idea, like you can't get 
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Mom, I'm like, well crap. 
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Yeah, it's just, it's a 
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I'm sorry it's dude is he cute 
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obvious that you know. 
It's you only have 24 hours in a

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day. 
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week, you know, for this one 
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to fit in starting to build your
practice while you are doing 

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that? 
Much for the other job? 

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Yeah, it was a crazy move. 
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every Sunday or And I would take
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knew all the things that I had 
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just non-negotiable, I get it 
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make columns for each day of the
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would try to slot in things like
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You were online thing. 
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Monday and one thing to do over 
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one thing I could do after work 
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you know, when can I exercise 
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Could I, you know, Do all the 
kid, things one can do 

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everything, but I would just try
to swat in and see where the 

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pieces would fit because there's
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know, I think we know, sometimes
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a lot of interior design is just
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like, well, if I'm going to do 
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pieces all fit. 
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Yeah. 
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just get blank piece of paper 
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desk at work and no one. 
Like oh, what's that? 

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All right Andrea. 
Yeah, like a pretty stationary 

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or something cute. 
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But yeah, yeah, something that 
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Yeah, I would just mad about my 
time and see where I can make 

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things fit. 
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offer people appointments over 
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especially if you have had a 
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Housewives, then that would work
and I would I'd pack like a 

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protein powder shake and just be
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when yeah. 
Time for me to go to lunch and I

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Dash to Dallas season showrooms 
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You know, look at Granite or 
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dash back. 
And I had an agreement with my 

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boss that, hey, I know lunch is 
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go in our 15 or an hour 30, I'll
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back end of the day. 
Like, I'm getting my hours in 

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and she was cool with that. 
She knew and she nice, I was 

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getting my work done. 
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So that was nice. 
That I can have a conversation 

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with her. 
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And she knew that you were kind 
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the side where they okay with 
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Or did they not know? 
I did have a conversation. 

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Good question with her about 
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how to start the conversation. 
So I was like, huh? 

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I'm selling Tupperware and she 
was like, what? 

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I need some type of work. 
I was like, no, no, wait, I'm 

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not actually selling Tupperware.
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you that. 
I hide the side hustle. 

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That doesn't compete with this 
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Hmm. 
And she's like, where can I get 

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some Tupperware? 
She was not very concerned, 

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okay. 
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It's not a competing field or 
anything like that, so it wasn't

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to be concerned, but as long as 
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getting the hours that they were
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I think it would be fine. 
So exactly. 

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Yeah, that was the one I was 
trying to make. 

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Yeah. 
Well, that's good. 

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I mean because some I don't know
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maybe I don't know if people 
usually go off and start a side,

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hustle out of finance and you 
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unusual especially in interior 
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But you know, this company had 
they have the handful of people 

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interesting Lele for this or 
that more women than men just 

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telling interesting. 
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In question, but they seen that 
from time to time and I kind of 

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wonder if my boss under what I 
might do long term but they she 

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was really sweet about it and 
she'd known me in the industry 

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for 20 years at that point. 
More than 20 anyway we don't 

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need to get into math about how 
old I am. 

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But yeah and you know I think 
she saw it coming on some level 

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but it's so is kind of you know,
just a surprise and then the 

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real surprise was the very next 
day they're sitting on the 

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train. 
Floor and knows had all the 

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screens up with all the prices 
that all the nodes of power and 

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CNBC was up and they said 
covid-19 is kind of into the us 

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only really the very next day. 
So that was the little man but 

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as you know the industry 
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wet for. 
Yeah, it for sure. 

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Yeah, that was interesting. 
Now I didn't have my salary 

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entirely replaced when I did 
make the cover but it It just 

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was time to. 
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Say a prayer and leave and do 
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So it was the right time for for
me and for our family but still 

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kind of scary. 
So it all worked out. 

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How did you manage those fears 
of like, going off on your own 

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and, you know, trying to not 
being able to replace your 

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salary, you know, I'm a 
spreadsheet person. 

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Yeah. 
So there are a lot of Reggie's 

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about, you know what our 
expenses were and how much we 

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were paying. 
Church sitters and kid dreams 

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for teaching and all of those 
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So I mean have to keep in mind 
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of not having some, some extra 
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just kind of cutting back on the
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button and they weren't but it 
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your brain. 
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gears for half a day, you know, 
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tuned to your business. 
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out in the career, or something 
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There's so much research. 
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make a list and it in time for 
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who can support you as you're 
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like, if you have a group of 
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be like, hey, I need a art 
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something like that. 
And that they're able to share 

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some sources with you that 
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Yes, absolutely. 
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reach out like that and that 
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some of the Facebook groups and 
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Yeah, I did like that book. 
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me, but it's called dumb. 
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Haller. 
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little sooner. 
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is one of the more common or as 
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think the top two Is what I've 
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I haven't seen it on any real, 
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job, survey or anything, but 
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real-estate agent and interior 
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careers. 
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obviously being in the industry,
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chosen interior design of the 
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estate. 
Now that you mention it as has a

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lot of pull for people, it is 
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flexible. 
You can find times to fit it in.

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Obviously still have to do a lot
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interesting for People like 
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Yeah, great. 
Well, we're can everybody. 

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Find your beautiful portfolio or
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If they have any questions 
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the places Andrea in a last 
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Ari ORD am great and will 

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include that in the show notes 
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Well, thank you so much. 

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Yeah, thanks for coming on. 
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hearing your story. 
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Bye. 
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She had was working 50. 
Plus hours a week, I heard a job

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and still was able to launch her
design company because of her, a

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can-do attitude and I really 
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And she has some great advice 
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podcast and we will put her 
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notes, they can check Her out. 
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her, you can reach out to her 
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If that's something you're 
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Kathy Heller's, don't keep your 
day job, how to turn your 

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passion into your career, which 
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podcast of that same name and I 
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it's very good. 
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Kathy Heller. 
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