1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 We have all the creams and potions and journals and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,520 everything of who we want to become and it gets cluttered and 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,600 even though it might be pretty stuff or it smells. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,040 Good or whatever. We don't use it. 5 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:15,600 And so I just want you to think for a second what that's saying 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,560 to you. Like I don't have time. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,280 I'm going to get to that eventually your. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,520 House is always. Having a conversation with you 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,160 and so when you are mindful and you edit it and you are like 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,720 this matters and this other stuff needs to find a different 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,880 home, it changes how? You feel so a really good rule. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,040 Of thumb is the closer something is to you. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,240 The. Bigger, it's influence. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,560 And so in your bedroom, as you can imagine, it's your bed, it's 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 your mattress, it's your night stand, it's everything that's 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,680 immediately around you has a really high level of influence. 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,800 You're now listening to Design Curious. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,480 The place where you. Creative one are here to learn 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,640 about what it. Really. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Is like to be an interior designer and I'm your host and 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,000 mentor, Rebecca Ward. If you're worried about how to 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,680 succeed in a creative career. If you're ready to learn your 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,200 next steps to become an interior designer, and if you want the 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,880 satisfaction of doing something, you. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Love every day. You are in the right. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Place grab a coffee. A notebook and let's dig into 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,800 today's episode. Hello and welcome to episode 176 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,880 of Design Curious podcast. Today on the podcast, I have 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,360 guest Amanda Gibby Peters. She is the founder and visionary 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,320 behind Simply Shui, a modern mission driven, love based 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,200 approach to Feng Shui that helps people around the world design 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,520 spaces that support their highest potential. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,480 With a master's in professional communication and two decades of 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,960 experience, Amanda is known for making the ancient art of Feng 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Shui practical, intuitive, and undeniably magnetic. 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,640 She's the offer of Simply Shui for everyday 365 Ways to Feng 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Shui Your life, and host of the top ranked podcast, House 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Therapy. Amanda lives in Dallas with her 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 husband, twin daughters, and the rescue dog Ruby. 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,720 I know you're going to enjoy the conversation today, so let's get 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,240 into it. Hi Amanda, welcome to Design 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Curious Podcast. It's great to have you today. 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,640 Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited about our 44 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:27,280 conversation. Yeah. 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,880 We were just talking offline. Your specialty, of course, is 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Feng shui. And I don't think I've had any 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,200 guests really get into all the principles and everything on the 48 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,960 podcast yet. So I know this is going to be a 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,440 popular episode, but before we even get into all of those 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,440 details, I would love to hear your path into design and to 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,160 energy work with the home. Yeah, so everyone loves this 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,080 story because I actually came into. 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,040 It as a huge skeptic. So my background is in political 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,720 science and communication. And so I had just finished a 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,600 master's program, and right about that time, my husband and 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,520 I moved to a new state, new to US town, new to US home. 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,960 And, you know, a lot of things started to go wrong. 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,000 I'd had these plans of going on to get my PhD, but we moved to 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,880 this new place. We didn't have our. 60 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 People necessarily we had three-year old. 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Twins. He was traveling a ton and 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,840 things just felt like they were unraveling pretty quickly. 63 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,720 And for several months I just sort of assumed big life change. 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 This is just the adjustment. But it wasn't. 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,560 There were no like Silver Linings. 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,440 And so there was this one day. Where I had had it. 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,040 And I grabbed a book and I thought. 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Whatever, I see this. Is going to be the answer kind 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,920 of like. Oracle cards before there were 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,120 Oracle cards everywhere. And it said something about Feng 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,800 shui and I thought. It was so. 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Nonsensical. I just thought like change my 73 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,760 house changed my life. I just changed homes not 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,000 realizing that that. Actually could be the very 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,120 problem. This was early 2. 76 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Thousands when blogs were just taking off the original 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,240 influencers. And so I thought, this has made 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,200 me angry enough that I think it'd be really fun to. 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Write about like to try. And write about and just. 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,959 Tell people how? It's not working and. 81 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:25,920 So I bought a book. And read through it, highlighted 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,640 some things and gave it my best objective approach and. 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,720 The best way? I can explain Feng shui in terms 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,240 of when you start working with it for anyone is you'll often 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 read and like different magazines, big life changes 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,800 happen like if you do. This that will. 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Happen. It's very transactional. 88 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,600 But what? Actually happened for me was I 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,640 noticed that our. House was starting to. 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Feel like our home and I was curious to keep doing things 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 and. After I would say several. 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Weeks of making some changes, not big changes, just doing 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,200 things consistently and trying new things out in our space. 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,240 There were some shifts in our life. 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,920 My husband got a new. Job offered. 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,240 To him, out of the blue and the salary was more than double and 97 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,160 he didn't have to. Travel all of the. 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Sudden all the. Preschools that were. 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Full the one we really wanted to get our girls and had two 100 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,160 openings. There were a couple other. 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Things that I remember sort of holding out on, thinking, well, 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,600 that was all coincidental, but there was this moment. 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Where I realized OK. I can keep being. 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,720 Skeptical or I can get really curious about what's. 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Happening here and I became the student and started just 106 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,840 devouring everything and that's truly what's led me here 20 107 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,680 years later. OK. 108 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,560 OK. So self-taught or did you take 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,360 any specific courses? I said. 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,040 Very academic, very cerebral, I. Bought. 111 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,840 As many books as I could find. Amazon was maybe out, but it 112 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,080 wasn't like the Prime situation we have today. 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,760 And so I would go to Barnes and Noble or use bookstores and find 114 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,280 books and. I thought I had a pretty good. 115 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,840 Grasp on what I understood. There was plenty that I didn't 116 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,080 understand but for most people I'm like, I feel like I could 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,200 explain this and luckily. I'd hired a couple. 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Consultants to come into our home. 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,800 And one became a mentor of mine. And so I remember saying to her 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,800 like, I think I'm just going to start doing this. 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,640 And she sort of schooled me in a couple minutes about how much I 122 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,040 actually didn't know and, you know, really encouraged me to go 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,000 and be certified. So I took a certification 124 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,240 program and then came out of that. 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,600 And once you Start learning, you realize, Oh my gosh, there's so 126 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,600 much I don't know. And so I've done several 127 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,760 certifications since then. A lot of Feng shui is very 128 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 similar. There are a few distinctions 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,160 among the different schools, but I'm always learning. 130 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 There's always so much to. Pick up and so I would say. 131 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Yeah, I've been formally trained and I'm still in the process of 132 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,880 learning. And though you also 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,280 simultaneously had to learn to start a business as well, like. 134 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Yeah. I did. 135 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:02,440 So when I started out, I didn't think it would be. 136 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,640 I was like, I'm just writing about it on this blog and people 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,280 are curious. They can reach out and ask 138 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,920 questions. And then people wanted me to 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,240 come into their homes. And so again, it kind of felt. 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Very hobby ish. Then there was a moment where. 141 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Bigger. Spaces or names or brands were 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,520 reaching out one of the. First was AOL so. 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Again, I'm going to date myself, they said. 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,080 We want you to write an article about Feng Shui. 145 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Can you tell us what you think the quote UN quote rules are? 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,880 And of course, there aren't rules in Feng shui. 147 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 So I was like, people are curious about this also. 148 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,760 When I did my first certification, decided to enroll 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,440 in a business coaching program where I was around other. 150 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,760 People who were. Trying to pitch and promote 151 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,520 themselves and I just. Thought I'll just soak up. 152 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Everything. And so again, that's something 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 that I continue doing today because, you know, business is 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 always changing. You know there's. 155 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Some things that you need to have in place, but you're always 156 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,720 strategizing and trying to. Figure out what. 157 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,760 People are wanting what they're needing, certainly over the 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 last. 6. Years I've had to be very 159 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,280 nimble, you know, in terms of what people are dealing with and 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 what people are wanting from their spaces. 161 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,440 I know that design and Feng shui definitely blend together really 162 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,840 well. To what extent do you work on 163 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,840 your projects? Do you ever get into the 164 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:26,080 remodels of the rooms or is it mainly just the furnishings or, 165 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 and I know a lot of people think it's just about furniture 166 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,559 placement and it's so much more than that, but yeah, what what 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,520 is your typical project? Look like? 168 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,480 I guess so. I don't do necessarily design 169 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,400 specific. Work. 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,159 Luckily I have House therapy which is a certification program 171 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,600 and I have designers that come. Through I have Realtors. 172 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,840 That come through. I have designers that come 173 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,920 through, so I'm very fortunate in that I can refer people who 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,960 are looking for that specific hands on, but. 175 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,440 What I. Do do and you just touched on 176 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,440 it. People think move my couch 177 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 changed my life. There is a little bit of truth. 178 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,600 To that, but when people are going through, let's say they're 179 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,800 looking for a house or they are renovating, I'm looking at how 180 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,880 they are wanting to lay out the. Space because the way we lay out 181 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,240 space, actually. Has an impact and influence on 182 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,240 what we're experiencing and if I can get involved in that. 183 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Process. Then a lot of the things. 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,360 That you sort of do. After you're in a space, you 185 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,520 know when someone grabs the book and reads the book and says I'm 186 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,520 going to do this and this and this. 187 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,800 That's a little. Bit I don't want to say it's 188 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,920 superficial, but you're definitely in a curative. 189 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Space like, OK, I've got to fix this. 190 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 I've got to add this to add. This energy, whereas if you can 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,280 get it in at the ground level and you can eliminate a lot of 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,320 those things that you'll otherwise be fixing later, if 193 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,600 that. Makes sense, yeah. 194 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,200 So would you work? Collaboratively, maybe with 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,640 another designer builder who is actually doing all the finishes 196 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,720 and everything like that and you're coming alongside seeing 197 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,480 this color or this placement could be better if you. 198 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:03,360 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of times we do that. 199 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,480 I mean it'll. Be like, OK, let's look. 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,640 At how the bedrooms laid out. Where's the bed going to be? 201 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,960 You know something that you will. 202 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Hear a lot. Of functional practitioners talk 203 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,360 about is. This idea of. 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Being in command right, having a solid wall behind your back and 205 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:17,600 being. Able to see whoever. 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,320 'S coming into the room. Let's say someone is renovating 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,280 a space and they've set the room up. 208 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Where maybe their? Back is to a wall, but on that 209 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,480 same wall or. Is a door 2 doors? 210 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,920 That come into room. That to me is a red flag. 211 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,480 And I'm like, while we're in this. 212 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,760 Creative Space. And we changed that. 213 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,400 Because those are the. Things that over time do have an 214 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,160 impact and that's one of the benefits of having done this for 215 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,080 so long as. I can see a lot of the. 216 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,200 Suggestions and guidance and principles that Feng Shui 217 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,080 offers. That do really hold up. 218 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,320 And some of them that aren't don't have as much bite and 219 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 command is one of. Those and so there are. 220 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,960 A few things that I'll, you know, sort of exert my opinion 221 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,560 on over other things. But yeah, I will. 222 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:06,160 Work with builders, architects, designers. 223 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,680 I've worked with them all and again, that's what's so great 224 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,480 about having a program now is. I can teach people these. 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,920 Principles and then they can go out and work with those industry 226 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,960 leaders and help them. Create spaces that actually feel 227 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,680 good. They they can look good, but 228 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,480 they also feel really good. OK, that's great. 229 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,800 And it's great that you have a course that people can learn 230 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 about these principles. So if someone listening who's 231 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,760 just starting out in design, maybe they're curious about Feng 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 shui, they want to incorporate some of it into their process or 233 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,640 client work, but they want it to feel authentic at the same time 234 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,240 without like, you know, as they're dabbling into like 235 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,680 understanding the principles and everything. 236 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:46,120 What would you recommend for them? 237 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,280 Well, so that's a really great question because I think. 238 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,440 A lot of people think, oh, so if I get into Feng shui, I need to 239 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,520 hang bamboo flutes? I need to have Mandarin ducks 240 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,800 somewhere. Like there's this idea that it 241 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,400 is. Again, furniture. 242 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Based or it's. A little bit more tchotchky, 243 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,600 right? And there are a lot of symbols 244 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,320 that have meaning, but if they don't resonate with you, then 245 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,720 that's not something that you know you would incorporate into 246 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,360 a space. And I certainly don't work with 247 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,720 with that because that's not my clientele. 248 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 What I would say when people are starting out, because I think a 249 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,400 lot of times people want to make changes in the. 250 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Space, but it's like, well, where? 251 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Should I put the most effort? Where should I put my? 252 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Resources. Where should I focus? 253 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,440 The most attention and so I think Feng Shui is fantastic. 254 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,480 As a filter for that. Thing that you do at the front 255 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,760 door, the front space. In Feng shui, we call this the 256 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,200 mouth of chi, where everything that you're calling into your 257 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,200 life enters. And so I want people to think 258 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,560 if, if they've done intentions or affirmation journaling or 259 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:43,920 anything like that, your front door matters. 260 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Because that is sort of a. First impression to the world 261 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,960 and I love. Of that realtor speak really 262 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,640 backs that up right? Like how people feel about a 263 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,520 space is. Often that opinions often formed 264 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,160 as they're approaching the space. 265 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,360 So. I often say, you know, if you 266 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,440 have not taken care of your front yard or you haven't done 267 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,640 anything to that front space, the. 268 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Door, the porch, whatever. That's a really great starting. 269 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Point the kitchen, which we know. 270 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Like that is a really. Safe, great investment, the 271 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,880 kitchen and Feng shui represents health and wealth, and so it 272 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,560 really speaks. To your overall well. 273 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,520 Being so. That is a great upgrade or place 274 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,720 to poor resource. And then the bedroom, the 275 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,200 bedroom is so much tied to relationship, but people don't 276 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,400 realize it's also the relationship we have with 277 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,960 ourselves. And something I will often say, 278 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,080 and you know, sometimes on social media gets 279 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,480 misinterpreted. But I can tell. 280 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,960 What you think you're worth? When I look at your bedroom, 281 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,040 people think that's tied to expense. 282 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,040 Or label. Or thread count, but I know. 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Do you put yourself at the top of your To Do List or are you 284 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 the last? Thought your bedroom is what 285 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:52,360 sets you up think about it at book ends your days and. 286 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,800 So it's how you start. Your day, it's how you end your 287 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,120 day. And it really says, do I 288 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,920 prioritize myself? Because if you. 289 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Replenish and recharge yourself. You're going to be able to go 290 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 out and take care of what you need to and hopefully meet the 291 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,800 expectations that you know you want to meet. 292 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,040 When you don't do that, then again, it's not transactional. 293 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,560 It's just this compounding effect and it's like, oh, I've 294 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,480 got to put that laundry away or. I've got to get the kids Fort 295 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,720 picked up or I've. Got to deal. 296 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,160 With these. Boxes, right? 297 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,240 And so that becomes part. Of that. 298 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Conversation that's happening all the time, whether you're 299 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,160 aware of it or not, so I would say. 300 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Those are really great spots to. Start. 301 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,720 I mean, everywhere in your house is going to have a win, but if 302 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,480 you had to. Choose. 303 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Those are really. Fantastic places. 304 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Oh, yeah. And that's a really good point 305 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,840 about the bedroom. I hadn't put that together as 306 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,000 far as like how you value yourself as a place. 307 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,520 But often times, you know, we get called as designers into 308 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,000 people's homes and we see all the intimate places. 309 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,320 And often if I walk into the primary bedroom and it's just 310 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,680 like no headboard and maybe like just that piled stuff piled on 311 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,760 the night stands, no lamps and just like an afterthought, I 312 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,200 immediately become so sad for that person because it's just 313 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,920 like, oh, you need, you deserve so much better than that. 314 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,160 I'm going to start to end your day here, so. 315 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Yeah, and I think there's a real urge to spend our money on what 316 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,120 people are going to. See right. 317 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,560 So that is a big. Signal that we are people 318 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,440 pleasing and not taking care of ourselves and you hit on two 319 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,800 things that I want to touch on because the headboard. 320 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Is such a big deal. It is one of the best from a 321 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 functional perspective, one of the best investments you can 322 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 make. Because it speaks to having 323 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,920 support. And so it is to me. 324 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Like. High on the list. 325 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,200 If you have to prioritize, it just deserves to be above the 326 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,000 fold, right? Then that night stand, you know, 327 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,480 I often joke with students and my audience that those are like 328 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 little mini altars of hope, right? 329 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Like we have all the creams and potions and journals and, you 330 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 know, everything of who we want to become. 331 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,680 And it gets cluttered and even though it might be pretty stuff 332 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,320 or it smells. Good or whatever. 333 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 We don't use it. And so I just want you to think 334 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,800 for a second what that's saying to you. 335 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,560 Like I, I don't have time. I'm going to get to that 336 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,760 eventually your. House is always. 337 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Having a conversation with you and so when you are mindful and 338 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,400 you edit it and you are like this matters and this other 339 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,760 stuff needs to find a different home. 340 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,680 It changes how you. Feel so a really good rule. 341 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Of thumb is the closer something is to you. 342 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,400 The. Bigger its influence, and so in 343 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,840 your bedroom, as you can imagine. 344 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,520 It's your bed. It's your mattress, it's your 345 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,680 night stand, it's everything that's immediately around you 346 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,720 has. A really high level. 347 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Of influence. Wow, that's really a great way 348 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,560 to iterate that. It's something that I probably 349 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,400 felt intuitively but didn't understand the whole principles. 350 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Are there? Other things that are some 351 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,760 surprising transformation that you've seen through your work 352 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,320 throughout the different areas of the homes and in your 353 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,160 projects. Yeah, I have a. 354 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Course, the simple Shui course, which is these 12 modules that 355 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,079 kind of take you through the fundamentals because I think 356 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,640 most people when they come into Feng shui, they're like, where 357 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,000 do I start? There's so much stuff, I'm so 358 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,920 overwhelmed. And so they do like one or two 359 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,720 things and they're like, that was a fun project. 360 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,160 This course. Was many, many years ago 361 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,359 something I taught live and I had this woman who came in and 362 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,520 she's like, I'm just really tired and exhausted all the time 363 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,480 and so I'm taking this course to figure out why I'm tired, why I 364 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,160 am tired and exhausted. We kind of moved through each 365 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,960 module and she's making small changes and she comes one week 366 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,200 and she's. Like I've realized. 367 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,400 That it's my job that's training me. 368 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,960 And I'm like, OK, discernment, cool. 369 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,720 And so we focus on the office and some things that she can 370 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,880 change up there and put her desk in command. 371 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Another way of thinking of command is facing your life. 372 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,400 It's having visibility to what's in front of you. 373 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,360 So she made some of those changes and put some feelers out 374 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,000 there and had. Quite a few. 375 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Offers come in, and so she was fortunate enough to. 376 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,400 Be able to pick what? She wanted to do and she chose a 377 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,000 job and it turned. Out to it gave her. 378 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 I think her salary bump was like 45 Ki mean it was pretty 379 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,360 impressive and she. Was of course, excited about 380 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,320 that. But here's the thing that I 381 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,280 love. This was surprising and I love 382 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,680 telling the story for this reason. 383 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,680 Her. First day of her job. 384 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Her boss came in and he said OK, listen, it's really important to 385 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,480 me. That the people who work here 386 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,360 have a really clear. Discernment between their 387 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,280 personal lives and their professional lives because if. 388 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,440 You're all work. That's no life at all. 389 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,600 And she sent me the longest e-mail and she's like, Oh my 390 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,960 goodness. Like I, I came into. 391 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Your course tired figured. Out was my job and now I have 392 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,400 the job that actually supports the time and life that I want. 393 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Like I wanted a little bit more space. 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,640 I didn't want to feel like I was working around the clock. 395 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,480 And so I think those are the kind of experiences. 396 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,400 That people have the. The changes that are so nuanced 397 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,960 and specific to them, and it really just comes with being 398 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240 intentional in your space. So a great way. 399 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,400 For people to think of. This is. 400 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Environmental metaphor. Think of your space is telling a 401 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,920 story and don't overcomplicate it. 402 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,120 Just look at your things and assign one or two words to them 403 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,680 and start to figure out how many things do you. 404 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Love that you're. Hearing and how many things are 405 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,200 you like, Oh my goodness, because you have jurisdiction 406 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,640 over that. You can say this is what I would 407 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,200 like to see more of and give that emphasis or give that 408 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,400 really good geography in your your. 409 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,120 House. Whereas the things that you 410 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:35,360 don't love, you can address or move out, right? 411 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,960 And so it's starting to see like. 412 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,040 You get to tell the. Story with the things all around 413 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,400 you, and you can do that in client spaces too, once people 414 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,600 understand that this is a. Way to Co collaborate with. 415 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,680 Those goals and intentions, it becomes a lot of fun. 416 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Yeah. I think a lot of the questions 417 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,160 maybe that you would ask should just be asked anyway of a client 418 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,440 of like how they use the space, the things that they love, what 419 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,400 what really defines them and what's the frustration. 420 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,240 And all those questions probably just align as well with the 421 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,920 practice of Feng shui. Yeah, I think too. 422 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,280 So many people feel overwhelmed. I've got to make decisions. 423 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,320 I don't have all. The details or whatever you just 424 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,000 brought up a really great. Question which? 425 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Is like, what's the purpose of the space? 426 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:26,120 I joke. And I'm also serious. 427 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:30,520 Like every room should have a mission statement, including the 428 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,160 closet. Like everything, because when 429 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,960 you. Define what the? 430 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Space is purposes. It doesn't become a dumping 431 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,960 ground. You have said this. 432 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Is what belongs here. Same with that office that 433 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,360 becomes the craft room that becomes. 434 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:45,240 The we'll put all these. Things that we don't know what 435 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,520 to do with or we still need to put in the attic here, right? 436 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 You start to infringe upon yourself by not having really 437 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,440 clear boundaries. But if you have these boundaries 438 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,760 in your home. Guess what you're better at? 439 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,360 Out in the world, holding you your own boundaries. 440 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,520 So it, you know, it just is a really great way to match the 441 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,760 energy you want to be out in the world with. 442 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Like a practice ground for going out in the world. 443 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,080 That's great. If someone would like to kind of 444 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,400 know, maybe some quick reference things that like if they're 445 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,040 meeting with a client next week and they're like, I can't take 446 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,720 the course yet, but what are some some focus areas that I 447 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,600 should really look at as far as like balancing the energy or 448 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,440 just a design block that maybe a client might commonly have? 449 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,520 Yeah. So when I go into a client space 450 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,640 I'm like what are your? Objectives there are. 451 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,880 So many things that. We could do So what? 452 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,920 Matters to you, like where are you looking for improvement? 453 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,160 Are things going really well? Is there something you're 454 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,560 wanting to enhance or optimize like I get? 455 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,920 Really clear about. That because then I know where 456 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,840 we want to start in terms of prioritizing the work. 457 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,720 So if you're. Going into a client's house. 458 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,120 I would start. With again, the front door. 459 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:01,840 Just making sure I might say the front door. 460 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,560 Let's also extend that to the entry. 461 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Like how does it feel? When you walk in, even if you 462 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,560 don't use. That space which is the. 463 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,360 Question, I get all the time what we come in through a back 464 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:14,280 door, Great, now you have two assignments, but you want the 465 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,360 front door to feel welcoming and then you want to feel welcomed 466 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,360 into your own space. And the other thing that I think 467 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:27,760 is so important in these spaces is some sort of stamp of 468 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960 self-expression like you belong here. 469 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,840 I think we are so untethered right now. 470 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,120 Just as a whole, a lot of people are looking for community and 471 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,720 when I go into homes, a lot of homes. 472 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,440 Look like you could. Move the family out and someone 473 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,760 else could move in because everything has been done 474 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,320 according to a catalog. Or you know, I just purchased 475 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,560 everything that this person listed on their mood board, but 476 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,680 it doesn't have that personality. 477 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,840 Self-expression is not only a way to anchor yourself and 478 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,440 create that sense of belonging. But it also lets other people 479 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,000 feel. More at home in your space, even 480 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,400 if it's not. Their style or aesthetic they. 481 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Just want to know. What you're about so. 482 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,880 I think in. Both of those spaces. 483 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Having some sort of self-expression. 484 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,000 I really. Think light is so important in 485 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,520 spaces. I think it's worth the 486 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,240 investment. It's. 487 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Worth the effort. Light is what we call a. 488 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,520 Qi enhancer in Feng shui. It lifts the energy, it can 489 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,920 guide the energy. It helps keep energy moving 490 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,040 around. What I get curious. 491 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,120 About when I go into spaces and again in my functional. 492 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,920 Bag We have a lot of tools that we work with, but where are the 493 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,840 dark? Spots in your house, because 494 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,200 that will tell me where you might not be seeing things. 495 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,160 And what I mean by that is we have a map. 496 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,640 There's an energetic map that we can lay over a home. 497 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 And where there are dark spaces, I know that someone might not be 498 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440 seeing everything in that. Area of their life. 499 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,720 So I tend to. Do like a little light audit. 500 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,440 When I go into spaces, even something as simple as clearing 501 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 up the clutter, getting things up off the floor. 502 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,160 A really simple way to think of this, and almost all homes are 503 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,920 guilty of this. This isn't, you know you don't. 504 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Have to be a hoarder. I'm too busy. 505 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,040 But when there's a lot of things that sit on the floor that holds 506 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,560 energy down. I mean, think about it. 507 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,800 You look down to see those things there and it can. 508 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Be all the shoes by the. Door. 509 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,080 It can be all the sports equipment, it can be the boxes 510 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,600 that were on the porch that you need to deal with. 511 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,560 It's just the everyday stuff, but. 512 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,960 When it starts to pile up and you're stepping over it. 513 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Those are little. Deposits of frustration and then 514 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,160 all of a sudden you're late or you're in traffic or whatever 515 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920 and and that just carries into the day. 516 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,560 So I like to create. Or encourage people to have some 517 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,320 sort of a ritual or routine you get. 518 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,320 To decide what it is. Around putting things away, 519 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 right? Belongings belong somewhere, and 520 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,480 so they all need to have a home. And also, for all of the moms 521 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,880 out there who do everything, it's also a reminder. 522 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,080 That you delegate, Yeah. Don't do this for everyone and 523 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,240 you will have to repeat it many times. 524 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,520 That's part of the process. Functionally not a magic wand, 525 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,480 but. It's teaching people to care 526 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,360 about. The space and. 527 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,080 To have respect for the. Things. 528 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,000 That they. Have or they own. 529 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,400 So that's another thing, and it lifts the energy. 530 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,160 I'm sure most everyone who's listening would. 531 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,160 Be able to relate to if you're having people. 532 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Over in your house, it's a little in disarray, one of the 533 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,160 first things. You do is you go. 534 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,440 Clear off a bunch of counter space and that right like it. 535 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,400 Clean things up like that coffee table, whatever the. 536 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,360 Space suddenly feels more open and clean, right? 537 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,880 It's the same thing with your floors. 538 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,440 That's how energy is moving through your life. 539 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,360 So I would say look at that I've. 540 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,840 Talked about the bedroom. I've talked about the kitchen. 541 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Another thing, Mirrors as a design tool. 542 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,960 They can amplify lights. They can make a room look. 543 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,800 Bigger. There's a lot of. 544 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,720 Different ways that you can work with them for us and Feng shui. 545 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,760 They double whatever they see. And so we can be very 546 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,240 intentional with that so. I would do a quick. 547 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Mirror. Audit. 548 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800 And see what mine are seeing, right? 549 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,600 So if mine's in the bathroom and it's just chaos, there's a 550 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920 little nudge to clean up, right? If there's a. 551 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Console with a mirror over it, or say mirror over the fireplace 552 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,120 and there's nothing in front of it. 553 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,600 Maybe you add some flowers or a plant. 554 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,800 You know those are other forms of Qi enhancers, things that are 555 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 just. Perpetuating a better. 556 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Feeling in your. Space you could be deliberate 557 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,200 with. Making it reflect a chandelier 558 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,800 or some light, so looking at that can also be really 559 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,720 impactful. OK, I love that. 560 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,920 Is there anything that we need to like any faux pods or things 561 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,200 to stay away from? Like never do this or never, you 562 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,560 know, like, I don't know if there's anything like that. 563 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Yeah, I think that. That right there I think. 564 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,320 That what happens is that. People go to Google school. 565 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,440 And they find something. That they are. 566 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,960 Quote UN quote guilty of in their home and this is what 567 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560 scares a lot of people from Feng shui because then they feel. 568 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Badly about their house or they feel like their house is cursed. 569 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,080 Or you know, I get these emails all the time. 570 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,360 So I I I know that this is. Real out there. 571 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Everything is contextual, and there's really not an always or 572 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320 never. There's really not. 573 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,840 A set rule. You have to think, and this 574 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840 definitely applies to designers as well, right? 575 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Like every home. Every. 576 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Person and we'll say every. Project is so. 577 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Different and nuanced that there's no real like 578 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,840 one-size-fits-all template and it's the same thing in Feng shui 579 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,360 So what I encourage people to do when they. 580 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,760 Go researching. Feng Shui on their own. 581 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,200 Is if you read. Something that scares you or 582 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600 something that makes you. Feel badly about your house. 583 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Challenge yourself to find things. 584 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,960 That are good like you owe it to. 585 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,160 Yourself to not just focus on the bad. 586 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,040 But to. Counter that with all the things 587 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,200 that are great because I've never, and this is truly never 588 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,280 been in a home where I can't find a couple really fantastic. 589 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Features. Or things that people have done 590 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,640 instinctually. That are. 591 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Really in alignment with Feng. Shui, so you just. 592 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,160 Don't know enough to be. Scared. 593 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,440 So I yeah, I would. Say don't worry about the never. 594 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Or always if you come. Around those rules, OK. 595 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Perfect quotation. Yeah, I'm sure that would have 596 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,400 been something people would like to ask because they're afraid of 597 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,200 making a mistake when it comes to energy flow or whatever. 598 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,480 Yeah, they've heard something, you know. 599 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 So something to remember there. Because that is true, people. 600 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Think it's a magic wand and they want it to be a magic wand so 601 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120 long as things are going to go well. 602 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Yeah, exactly. So what I remind people is most 603 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,080 of the time if you hear someone doing something and there's been 604 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,600 some big win, there were things that were happening in the 605 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,200 months or weeks leading up to that that you're just not 606 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,680 hearing about, right? That kind of set that in motion. 607 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240 And it's not necessarily that it was a coincidence. 608 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,400 It's just again, it's. Very collaborative, so. 609 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Keep in mind Feng Shui is not transactional and so when you 610 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,200 start making changes you're probably not going to notice big 611 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 wins overnight. Likewise. 612 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 You're not going to lose everything overnight. 613 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480 You might start getting a few red flags, and if that's the 614 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,560 case, just reverse engineer. Whatever you did, right? 615 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,400 If you're not working with someone and you just know enough 616 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320 about functionality to be dangerous, then just reverse 617 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,560 engineer. Because that's you just. 618 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Stepping out of it. Yeah, that's great. 619 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Do you see that there's like a renaissance of Feng shui 620 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,520 practice in our culture among designers right now happening? 621 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Or because I know it's a an older practice, but it seems 622 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520 like a lot of people are starting to talk about it more. 623 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,400 Well, so yeah, it's. Been around for? 624 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Thousands of years. And. 625 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,080 It has just because of. Migrations or wars or whatever 626 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,480 it's, it's definitely evolved to meet people where they're at. 627 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320 And so you have, like I said before, many, many iterations in 628 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,160 schools or approaches. And so I think that when people 629 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,920 don't. Have budgets people get curious 630 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,720 about? What they can do? 631 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,120 With what they have. And I think Feng Shui has this 632 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,200 moment. Where it feels. 633 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Like it can contribute to that conversation, but it really can 634 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,680 show up in any like if someone's building a house, if someone's 635 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,920 looking to relocate, if someone is renovating, if someone is 636 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,120 making some big purchases in all of those scenarios. 637 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Having a little bit of. Feng Shui wisdom can make all of 638 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,520 the difference in that investment. 639 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,000 I will say over COVID that first year, I. 640 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Did a ton, a ton of podcasts, I think over 60 podcasts and that 641 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,720 was. Because people were. 642 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Stuck at home, they were all sharing space. 643 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,400 People were about to lose. Their minds and they were like, 644 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,280 what can I do? And I bring that up because I 645 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,200 think when we're out and about. Especially if we tend to be 646 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,760 really busy, we. Don't think about the impact our 647 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,040 space is having on us. And COVID was a moment where 648 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,760 everyone's like, Oh my gosh, I have to change this. 649 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,480 This isn't working or I I'm feeling suffocated or I'm not 650 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,120 feeling inspired or it feels so monotonous. 651 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,240 And that's when I think people had this real HD moment of oh, 652 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,120 Myspace matters and probably a little bit more than I thought. 653 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320 And so I think just coming back to that and. 654 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,320 Why I teach it? Is I want people to realize you 655 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640 don't have to wait until you're in quarantine. 656 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,640 To do something with your. Space. 657 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560 This is a. Wisdom that I think everyone. 658 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,720 Owes themselves. A little bit of fluency and 659 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,040 because again, you can. Always work with your space. 660 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,920 To change how you feel. You can work with your space to 661 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680 help. Hold you accountable to what you 662 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680 want to create or experience in your life. 663 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,160 You can collaborate with your home. 664 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,080 I I encourage people to think of their home as like a family 665 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,960 member. Yeah, yeah. 666 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,520 Collaborating with, letting it speak to you in different areas 667 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,280 and working with it to help it to become better too. 668 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Yeah. Yeah. 669 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,760 I mean, when you do things for your home, it's an act of self 670 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000 hospitality ultimately because you're taking. 671 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Care of yourself, but it like that just. 672 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Ripples out in the years. Ahead. 673 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,360 Yeah, I. Love that self hospitality. 674 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Yeah. Well, Amanda, you have so much 675 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,440 information and knowledge and wisdom to share, and I know you 676 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120 have your own podcast House Therapy, yes. 677 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Yes, really bite sized episode so. 678 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800 If you want something for 15 minutes, I'm your girl. 679 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Awesome. Well, I'll check that out. 680 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Yeah, I think that would be great to have alongside of my 681 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 week. Do you do a weekly or? 682 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Yeah, I do. Weekly. 683 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,920 I mean, until otherwise notified. 684 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Yeah, doing it for about 3 years, you know, and I'm. 685 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,400 Like how do I mean you do a podcast so you want to see it's 686 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,840 like, wow. All of a sudden I'm like 160 687 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,480 episodes in. Yeah, okay. 688 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,360 And you have a book as well. Yes, simple Shui for every day. 689 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,640 So it's. 365 different Fung shui tips. 690 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,280 It's not calendar specific. It. 691 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,120 Really is when I wrote. That book. 692 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920 What I wanted was kind of what I was looking for. 693 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,400 When I first came into Feng shui, I was not planning on 694 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,240 being certified. I certainly wasn't planning on 695 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,960 ever consulting people, but I was just like, I just want to 696 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600 keep finding more things that I can do. 697 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Because I was really curious about. 698 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,520 How the energy in my life experiences were matching up as 699 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,120 I made changes. And so that's. 700 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,720 What this book is it's. 365. Plus tips that are super. 701 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Simple. They don't feel intimidating. 702 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200 You don't need all these special ingredients or anything. 703 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440 They're just really crazy things you can do. 704 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120 That help? You get to know your home and 705 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,120 this energy that you're already steeping in. 706 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,080 OK, so those are two ways and then you have your course. 707 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Yeah, so I have a. Course and then I have a 708 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,520 certification the. Course is a prerequisite. 709 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,320 To the certification, but the. Course. 710 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Was designed honestly again, it came out right before COVID and 711 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,199 it was. Like if you. 712 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,960 Don't want to bring a consultant into your home? 713 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,239 I'm going to give you the tools. I'm going to give you my process 714 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,600 that I, you know, at that point, I think I'd been practicing for 715 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,400 15 years. That I've sort of developed. 716 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880 For reading a. Space, how to prioritize and. 717 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,960 So it kind of walks. You through all of that? 718 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,360 So that you can feel confident in your space making changes 719 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,360 without again the confusion because. 720 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,639 All you got to do is go. Pick up three different books 721 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,120 and yeah. You're confused. 722 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,679 Like wait, what? Why aren't they contradicting 723 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,520 themselves? Yeah, OK. 724 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600 That's awesome. So people can take the course, 725 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,679 learn a little more, and then if they want to be certified, you 726 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,639 offer that as well. Yes, yes. 727 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,199 So there's a lot. There, Yeah. 728 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,480 And I would say definitely, if you're curious, hop over to 729 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,360 Instagram. I share over there a lot of. 730 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Tips and insights in that. And so it's a great rabbit hole 731 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:06,320 if a rabbit hole is your speed. OK, yeah, we'll put your links 732 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680 in the show notes. So your Instagram is Amanda 733 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,720 could be Peters? Yes. 734 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Right. And then your website is simply 735 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,600 shoy.com. Yeah, simpleshoy.com and yeah, 736 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,480 yeah. And then the. 737 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,760 Podcast is house therapy. Great. 738 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,320 OK, we'll put a link for all the people who might be driving and 739 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,560 listening. They can't go and look right 740 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,880 now. Well, Amanda, thank you so much. 741 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Is there anything else you'd like to share for our listeners? 742 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,120 Who? Probably. 743 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,280 Know I I really appreciate. Being here and I'm just excited 744 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,320 to have the conversation about functioning with anyone who 745 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,680 works with homes because I know that designers, you know, 746 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,920 there's that. Overlap of. 747 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,240 We just really appreciate how. Powerful our environments can 748 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,360 be. And so I just love having this 749 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,080 conversation, so thanks. Yeah, thanks. 750 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840 I know I learned some things today, so thank you for that. 751 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,920 All right. Well, we'll probably stay in 752 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,800 touch and we'll talk soon. All right. 753 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:07,520 Thanks. So I really enjoyed that 754 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960 conversation. It kind of stuck with me for a 755 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,880 while after interviewing her, just thinking about a different 756 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,840 things that can be communicated in the space and that what it 757 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640 might be saying and what it might need to shift into just a 758 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,160 better way of living. OK, so all of her contact 759 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,640 information is in the show notes. 760 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,880 If you'd like to reach out to Amanda and don't forget, we have 761 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,280 other great things for you. Some free downloads and some 762 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,400 podcast playlists over on Spotify. 763 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,040 If you need to cut to the chase and just hear the episodes that 764 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,480 mean the most to you, we have different playlist for you over 765 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,040 there on Spotify. OK, that's all I have for you 766 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520 this week. Next week we'll have another 767 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 great episode and until then, stay creative. 768 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560 Thanks for listening if you love this episode. 769 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,400 Please leave a rating and a review. 770 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,200 This helps me reach other curious creatives like you if 771 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760 you have a topic request. Or would like to contact me? 772 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,880 Simply head. Over to my website 773 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,520 arworddesign.com or e-mail me at. 774 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,200 Podcast. At ourwardesign.com.