1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Hello, and welcome to episode 32 of design, curious podcast. 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:08,000 I'm so glad you're here today. I'm your host and Mentor Rebecca 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,100 Ward. Today, we have an interview with 4 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:16,000 and really, bro, since she is a coach and speaker and a podcast 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,100 host, and I'll tell you all about her in a minute. 6 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:22,900 But first, I want to remind you. We have a download for you. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,800 It's a free download that talks about the three things. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,900 I wish I had known before I started my career in interior. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Our design so you can learn those three things and get on 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,700 our mailing list and that you can find in the show notes along 11 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:39,300 with everything else. We talked about in today's 12 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:43,400 episode, just more information about my design mentor and 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,000 everything else that you love about this show. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 So let's learn a little more about Andrea before we hear from 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,500 her, besides being a coach speaker and a podcast coach, she 16 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,400 is soon to be published author and is known for helping bold 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,900 ambitious, women make We're confident decisions that they 18 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,400 can get exactly what they want every time and not just add to 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,500 another thing on their to-do list. 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,400 Andrews, clients become. I've got this kind of women by 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,000 creating their own custom secret sauce for success, in both life 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,700 and business, the sauce has just two ingredients, the right 23 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:22,900 mindset and solid systems. Andrea shows women how to shift 24 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:25,900 from believing what they want. Is impossible, complex and 25 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:29,700 daunting to possible just by simplifying making. 26 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:34,300 Things doable and fun, even the systems and adding a bit of 27 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:37,000 confidence. Andrew signature process leads 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,100 them to find success on their own terms and ultimately joy and 29 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:44,300 freedom in life and business after graduating from Dartmouth 30 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:46,200 College and marrying. The guy that lived down the 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,000 hall, Andrea and her husband settled in Indianapolis over the 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,100 last few decades and area has started three successful 33 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:57,100 businesses and ultimately became a certified business and life 34 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,500 coach all while raising two kids. 35 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:03,900 Now, Now, ages, 21 and 18 and several giant puppies. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 I really enjoyed my conversation with Andrea. 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 I can tell that she is also an amazing coach that I would 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,700 likely sign up with if I wasn't already doing some amazing work 39 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:19,300 with other coaches so she is definitely a contender for you. 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,300 If you're looking for a coach she does coach interior 41 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:25,500 designers as well as other professions for women. 42 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:28,500 And so let's hear from her today. 43 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:36,300 You're now listening to design, curious a place where you 44 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:39,900 creative one are here to learn about what it really is. 45 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:43,900 Like, to be an interior designer and I'm your host and Mentor 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Rebecca, Ward, if you're worried about how to succeed in a 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,600 creative career, if you're ready to learn your next steps to 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,000 become an Interior Designer. And if you want the satisfaction 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,500 of doing something you love every day, you are in the right. 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,300 Right. Place grab a coffee, a notebook. 51 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,800 And let's dig into today's episode. 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Hi Andrea. Thank you for coming on design 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,100 cures podcast today. Thanks for having me. 54 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,500 Rebecca. Yeah. 55 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:16,200 And I have been looking into all the things that you do which is 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,000 a lot, a coach, a speaker podcast host, won't you tell the 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,800 audience a little bit about all those things and what you do? 58 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:27,400 Yeah, all the things. So I think to summarize it what 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,100 I love to do and what I do do is I help female entrepreneurs 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,600 small business owners, CEOs leaders and we can That we can 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,700 talk about what I have. I Define a leader because it 62 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,700 doesn't mean you have to be leading a Fortune 500 company. 63 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:48,800 L really use their energy and brain power time, and money 64 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:52,900 efficiently and effectively. So that they create a business 65 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:56,000 and a life that they really love and aligns with who they want to 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,400 be. So I always say we are three 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,500 most valuable resources, our time, money and energy, time 68 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:03,600 money, and brainpower kind of, depending on how we want to 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,400 think about that. And how do we We use those to 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,700 get what we want. Great so that's what I love 71 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:12,500 doing. Good good. 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,000 So take us back to when you started your first business. 73 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:20,100 How did you get into that? What we're not selling? 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,300 Well, probably like a lot of your listeners. 75 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:27,100 I had I worked actually way back in the day. 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,600 I was an employee of hospital. I'm a speech language 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,100 pathologist. And once my son was born, he 78 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:40,800 decided that I was Stay home me and then I had a daughter and 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,100 kind of oh, five years or so into that mom, stay at home, mom 80 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,700 journey. I decided that yes, I love being 81 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:50,800 at home, but I also loved being out and about and helping 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,500 people. So that point I started my first 83 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:57,000 business, which is kind of just fell into my lap. 84 00:04:57,100 --> 00:05:00,900 It was a part-time kind of gig. I could work from home. 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,500 It had very flexible hours. So when I started that business, 86 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:09,300 the Thing that was prominent in my mind was, how was I going to 87 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:12,300 integrate this with being a mom like, right? 88 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:16,600 That was the first and foremost kind of question that I had, you 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 know? So I really wasn't thinking 90 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,100 about how I was going to grow professionally or personally. 91 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,400 I was just really concerned with, like, I want to work. 92 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,100 I want to do something on a use my brain in some capacity, but 93 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:30,600 it's got to fit into it, my family. 94 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Hmm. The time I got to starting 95 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 business member to, I had learned. 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,500 Yes, I And it's possible to integrate working, and owning a 97 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:42,100 business into a family. And so I kind of like checked 98 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:43,400 that box. Then. 99 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,200 The next box that I needed to check. 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,600 Was you have it that first business really, wasn't 101 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,900 satisfying to me. Like, in a intellectual way. 102 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,800 I wasn't really learning much from it. 103 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Almost like I was a franchise owner and Isis. 104 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,900 I really wasn't, but a lot of it was kind of cookie cutter issue 105 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:00,900 in a sense. Okay, and then by the time I got 106 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:03,400 to business number two. It's like, all right. 107 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,900 I want to kind of do my own thing. 108 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:07,400 I want to kind of figure out. How I want to make this happen 109 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,300 and it was a lot of growth in terms of professional kind of 110 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:14,100 growth. And, you know, I like to say 111 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,900 that the beginning of any business, are they even in your 112 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:19,600 first business? A lot of times, it feels chaotic 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,500 based on confusion because you don't know what to do for a 114 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:24,800 second and third. Now, I kind of got to the next 115 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,600 place and I had a little more sense of what was going on. 116 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:33,600 Now, the chaos was due to success so this is actually 117 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,900 working, this is going well, hmm. 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,500 And what I was doing as I was recruiting and hiring and what 119 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:43,800 they considered training new business owners actually. 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,400 So I was working for a company that that's what they did and 121 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,600 there were parts of it. I loved and their parts of it. 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,500 I didn't love. So after being there for 10 123 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:56,500 years, I left and I started a third business and I took from 124 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:00,500 that second business, the parts of that I really loved and I 125 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,900 melded them into a third business, which is the business 126 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:05,000 I'm in now, business and life coaching. 127 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:10,600 So I Loved the training aspect. Okay, so I loved when women 128 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:13,700 started a business. They usually very excited. 129 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:15,100 They're kind of get some butterflies, but they're 130 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:19,500 excited. Yeah, however, he get going and 131 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:23,500 you realize, Hmm. This may not be all cracked up 132 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:27,500 to be. This is kind of making an impact 133 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:30,900 on my family. Maybe I'm not making as much 134 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,700 money as I thought I would, or want to. 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,800 And that's the part I like, Having people through, okay, 136 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,800 because if you could kind of get over the first few humps and put 137 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,600 some tools. I like to say Tools in your 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,900 toolbox and the right thinking in your brain, then you're going 139 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:52,200 to be successful. So in the business I have now 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,200 that's really what I love helping women do and I help 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,100 women that are in all stages of their business, okay? 142 00:07:58,100 --> 00:08:01,700 So the beginnings kind of the middles and I want to say the 143 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,200 ends, but I like to say the people that are still in that 144 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,900 like, chaos created by confusion. 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,500 And I don't know what to do, then the chaos created by 146 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:11,400 success and then kind of the chaos created by. 147 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:13,800 Hmm. So I want to sell this thing, 148 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,500 you know, I've got 20 employees now or maybe I have heard. 149 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:20,700 And what do I do? So all three stages of business. 150 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:25,000 Okay, so then did you get coaching when you first started 151 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,700 out? Or is that something that you 152 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:28,500 wish that you had done in hindsight? 153 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:32,799 So such a good question. So the first business I was in, 154 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:37,700 I kind of had mentors, okay? Right now, I could definitely 155 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:41,000 not coaching. And the difference between a 156 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,500 mentor and a coach is a mentor is going to kind of give you 157 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,700 their perspective from what they've experienced and guide 158 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:53,400 you in that way, right? A coach. 159 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:57,200 Yes, we'll give you some perspective, but their job is to 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,200 ask you hard questions. Okay. 161 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,900 Ask you hard questions and to stand next to you, as your guide 162 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:09,800 or Sherpa, Along your journey of business ownership and make sure 163 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,900 that you kind of don't turn back. 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,500 They so to kind of keep you moving forward because if 165 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:18,900 they're asking hard questions, there's a lot of doubt that's 166 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,500 going to happen, you're going to feel uncomfortable, you're gonna 167 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:24,800 have to do a lot of hard things. And if you're human, then you're 168 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,600 going to say I don't know if I want to do this anymore, right? 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,600 So though the coach's job is to really keep you moving in the 170 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,300 right direction. So second business, I had more 171 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:38,100 coaching It's still really wasn't that formal coaching 172 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:41,300 until the very end when I was actually contemplating like 173 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,100 dissolving and leaving. Okay? 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,100 And at that point that coach, what made that so amazing that 175 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:50,900 but kind of really first coaching experience I had, was 176 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:53,900 she pointed out to me all the things that we're going? 177 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:57,200 Well, she pointed out and helped me figure out all the things 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,100 that weren't going so well. And then all the things that I 179 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,200 really wanted to do differently. And we kind of from their 180 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:07,300 crafted, this third business. So now, Now, at this point, I 181 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:08,700 think everybody should have a coach. 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,500 It's not counseling counseling. Kind of helps you navigate the 183 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:16,700 past, make sense of what's gone on and get you to the present. 184 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:19,300 But coaching is really from helping you move from the 185 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:22,500 present into the future and kind of create that future you want. 186 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:24,700 Mmm, so good. Yeah, I love that. 187 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:28,800 You provide those definitions. I run a mentorship program 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,300 myself and so. Okay. 189 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:33,800 Love that distinction. That you said that mentorship it 190 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,300 is. It's taking my own personal 191 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,900 experience. Helping others move into the 192 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:41,700 next step, based on what I think that, you know, my feedback from 193 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:45,400 my experiences. But I also have been coached by 194 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,200 many coaches. And I understand that experience 195 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,000 of being vulnerable with that coach and having them ask you, 196 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,700 the tough questions that really get you to the next step. 197 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:56,700 The things that you need to hear that. 198 00:10:56,700 --> 00:11:00,300 You've been avoiding because of whatever personality or yeah 199 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:03,600 everything that you're doing and that coaches like I'm calling 200 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,200 you on it and you have to face this. 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,400 And if you Want to move forward. So I love that distinction, even 202 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,500 with counseling to our, you're looking more in the past and, 203 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,300 you know, dealing with the things that you've dealt with in 204 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,600 the past, but that coaching really helps you Propel you 205 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,200 forward. Yeah. 206 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,500 I think it's, I had a client or a prospective client called this 207 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:23,400 morning. And she said to me, she's like, 208 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,100 I'm just not, you know, gaining enough traction and my business, 209 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:29,300 I'm not really happy with where I'm at. 210 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:31,300 Kind of giving all the things that weren't going so well. 211 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,900 So I told her I said, listen, these are the four things that 212 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:35,800 we're going to work on. Number one is clarity. 213 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,900 Getting clear on what you do really want to is confidence and 214 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,500 this is where that vulnerable piece came in. 215 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:45,100 So when we talk about coaching and confidence, really, what 216 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:48,300 coaching is doing is helping you kind of quiet. 217 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,200 I call it the Frenemy that lives, the fact that you had 218 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:54,100 like, that little voice that says to you, you sure you want 219 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:55,600 to do that. I mean, I don't know. 220 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,500 I've never done that before. Last time you did. 221 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:00,200 It didn't go so well. But quieting down the front of 222 00:12:00,208 --> 00:12:02,600 me saying, hey, thanks so much for the advice. 223 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,900 Try to keep me safe but what I'm really going to do is this it's 224 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:12,200 that kind of confidence and helping you be vulnerable enough 225 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,500 to realize that sometimes things are going to work. 226 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:18,200 And sometimes they're not but you need to actually do hard 227 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,200 things, quiet, the voice and do the hard thing, and moving 228 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,900 forward. So that just actually came. 229 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:27,700 I said to her, I hadn't really good and and saying what I'm 230 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:29,700 really thinking and I kind of get timid. 231 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:31,700 I are gonna work on that. Yeah, are you gonna? 232 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:36,200 Yeah, I can always grow and improve does things and And that 233 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,900 brings up a good point. I think, also that that in order 234 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:43,800 to change careers, which is what like this podcast is exploring 235 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,300 or start a business. You really have to be in a 236 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,300 position where you're willing to be vulnerable and put yourself 237 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:54,300 out there and if you're just one of those people that can't do 238 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,100 that then maybe it's not, you know, in the cards for you, two 239 00:12:57,500 --> 00:13:00,000 to go for it. Or you might need a little extra 240 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,400 work, but it really is a requirement I think to, to make 241 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,600 that shift in your Stan's it's in your life 100%. 242 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,500 I think the successful people are the vulnerable ones. 243 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,000 Hmm. Are the ones that you know, are 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,500 brain wants to keep us safe. It wants to keep things easy and 245 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:21,700 efficient. I like to say brain is still 246 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:24,400 from like the caveman era, so the cavemen didn't want to leave 247 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,300 the cave because they might get eaten by the Bears. 248 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:28,900 So we don't live in caveman ear anymore. 249 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,200 It's worry about that. We can actually jump out of our 250 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,300 cave and that there's an element And of vulnerability there, 251 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,600 there's also an element of I like to say, how do you manage 252 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,500 your time is a reflection of how you're managing your mind? 253 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:48,400 No inter. So for listeners, who are like 254 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 transitioning from that 9 to 5 or start a business? 255 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,700 This is huge. And this happens a lot of my 256 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:55,300 clients. I don't know if I'm gonna have 257 00:13:55,300 --> 00:14:00,200 enough time to kind of in the transition to truly transition. 258 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,100 Yeah. Am I going to make enough money? 259 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:03,700 Should I leave the wind? Should I leave? 260 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:05,800 The 925 that kind of thing. Hmm. 261 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:09,200 But really what that comes down to is mind management. 262 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Like not managing your mind so that you can better manage your 263 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,500 time. That's another key. 264 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:17,000 That's just like Clarity and confidence. 265 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,900 Managing your mind seeing major time is another thing. 266 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:21,200 Okay? See. 267 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:26,000 So the person who is going to transition from that 925 to the 268 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,800 new career or business. What can they expect to look for 269 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,100 to that they're going to run into like there is going to be 270 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,800 more hours that they have to put in for a while, right? 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,700 Because they have to financially make it viable for them. 272 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:46,700 What else would they be facing? So I think they have to be okay 273 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,100 with being self-directed. Usually people are used to 274 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:56,700 following orders from above my having a plan handed to them or 275 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:58,900 even like they could have created their own plan for their 276 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:02,000 department or whatever, but there's always someone to kind 277 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,200 of like, check in with ya. And when you're a business 278 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,700 owner, there's No one to check in with, which is, I think, why 279 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,600 coaching? For example is super important, 280 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:17,000 you don't have that check in, so you have to be okay with not 281 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,900 getting in. Okay, mmm, right. 282 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:24,100 And it's sometimes, so like, say a designer is working for 283 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:27,000 another designer but then they decide they want to go on their 284 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,800 own. So, part of the appeal of going 285 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,100 on your own, is that your your have the autonomy now to do your 286 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:37,200 own design, my own work, but And with it, comes the 287 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,500 responsibility of being. There's no one else to pass that 288 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,200 back to liking. Can't blame it. 289 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,800 On anyone else you have to take full responsibility and I 290 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,200 suppose there is coaching that needs to happen around that as 291 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,000 well. It's what I call turning 292 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,300 obstacles into opportunities. Hmm. 293 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,700 Okay. So you could say, if you're the 294 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:57,600 designer working under someone else and now you decide to go 295 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,900 out on your own. Okay, there's a little bit of an 296 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:03,100 obstacle there because you're not quite sure what to do, how 297 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:05,700 to price things, how you're going to find clients. 298 00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:09,000 And ultimately, you're responsible for everything. 299 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,400 So you could say that's kind of an obstacle or a roadblock or 300 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,100 there's lots of stop signs but I want you to kind of shift your 301 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:18,700 thinking and think of it as an opportunity. 302 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:24,000 Aren't I lucky that I get to decide exactly how much I want 303 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,700 to charge for when I want to work or I don't have to follow 304 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:30,400 their template anymore, create my own. 305 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,700 So that's my management to because you could say to 306 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:35,900 yourself, oh my gosh, that's a lot of work to create my own. 307 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:39,200 Template or I don't know how many hours I want to work by. 308 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:40,400 Right. Yeah it's easier. 309 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Just to work for someone else. Not really it's an opportunity 310 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,800 for you to get exactly what you want. 311 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:47,700 Hmm. Right. 312 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,400 But you have to kind of look at it as that. 313 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,900 Yeah. And be willing to be 314 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:55,500 uncomfortable with it a while. Yeah, yes, 100%. 315 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,800 Yeah, percent. Okay. 316 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,100 So you have several clients that you coach who are designers can 317 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:04,200 you tell me, is there something different about designers from 318 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,000 the other women that you coach Ouch. 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,400 Yes. All right so I want to tell you, 320 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,000 I think there's a difference in the successful designers and 321 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,300 about so successful this time. Okay. 322 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:20,400 Yeah, let's talk about that kind of goes for every every 323 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,400 industry. And yeah. 324 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,900 Yeah. Okay designers though, like to 325 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:26,200 fall back on that. I'm creative. 326 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,400 Didn't, I realize? Okay, so they like to, like use 327 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,400 that as their kind of crush, okay, which is totally true, but 328 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,600 I will tell you something interesting. 329 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,200 I Designer, and I never considered myself very 330 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,600 design-oriented, arts and crafts. 331 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,700 None of it wasn't even fun for me. 332 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:49,800 But I recently took a, like one of those online assessments and 333 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,500 I actually now have the link to it on my website. 334 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:54,800 Under favorite tools, it's called the Via character 335 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,500 strengths assessment, okay? And it's a free assessment and 336 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:03,700 one of my top character strengths is creativity, okay? 337 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:08,100 I was like, what does that mean? Because I don't think I'm afraid 338 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:12,400 of at all, what it really means is, I'm a creative thinker like 339 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,300 I could think strategically so the designers that are 340 00:18:16,308 --> 00:18:22,100 successful can parlay their literal creativity into some 341 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:28,500 creative thinking and think outside the box and not let 342 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:34,300 their I would call limiting beliefs, keep them back, right? 343 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,100 So we all have Beliefs. Yeah, so many beliefs but those 344 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:43,400 that are successful are willing to put their creative thinking 345 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,800 hat on, not just their Creative Design hat on. 346 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,100 Okay? Okay, so I have one interior 347 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:53,900 design client, who is super, super successful like, she's 348 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:58,100 doubled her profits in 18 months since we've started working 349 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,400 together. She's grown a team. 350 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:02,600 I mean, she's like, she's really doing well. 351 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,600 She's like, loving, what she's doing, and what she I had to do 352 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,300 is to start to think like a business owner, Mike in dollars 353 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:14,800 and cents, like SE NS e. Like what makes sense? 354 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,700 Yeah, she had to start looking at numbers, not her favorite 355 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,700 night and she knows it's not her favorite, which is why then she 356 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:25,100 seeks help on it. So she got really smart and what 357 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,400 she was good at it, but she wasn't good at to MMM. 358 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,000 She started to create. I like to say like Hoosier board 359 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,900 of directors, who is on your board of directors. 360 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,700 Like, do you have someone that you go to doubt the finances? 361 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:39,900 Do you have the legal advisor? Do you have Coach, do you have a 362 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:43,300 all that kind of stuff? So she started to realize that 363 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:45,900 and then I think that the next best step she took and what 364 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,200 really kind of kicked her up and not was that she created a 365 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:51,700 business plan. How creative people don't like 366 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:53,800 business plans because they don't know. 367 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,700 I'm being silent very stereotypical, but you don't 368 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:58,700 know what's what, what's going to happen next or I'm not sure. 369 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,300 Yeah. Also in this business you don't 370 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:05,300 necessarily know where the next paycheck is coming from, right, 371 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:06,100 right? Right. 372 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:08,600 So how could I say I'm gonna do something when I don't even know 373 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,500 if I'm gonna have the resources to do it, right? 374 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:14,200 All these questions? Yeah, she created or together, 375 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,400 we created a business plan, I helped her do it and it is kind 376 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,200 of become our working document that we go back to all the time 377 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,300 and it helps her take those next actionable steps. 378 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,300 So I see that type of person and she came from corporate, she 379 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:35,200 actually like total corporate for kids husband travels. 380 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,200 She is a super profitable and successful designer but I have 381 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,000 to give her credit because she, she recognized that there was 382 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,900 this strategic creative thinking, peace. 383 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,700 Yeah. That had to go along with the 384 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,900 creativity peace. Yeah. 385 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:54,900 So you have to kind of repackage it for does that to really 386 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:58,900 accept that like no. You can apply creativity to not 387 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:02,100 like be creative with numbers but like to the Strategic 388 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:05,600 thinking of your business and then the other part of it is 389 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,300 that That I love that. You said that the business plan 390 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:11,700 that you came up with was a working document and I think, 391 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:15,700 even for myself, sometimes I get paralyzed by like this has to be 392 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:18,800 the one document that the financial advisor is going to 393 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,400 look at it would be perfect. It's got to be like set in stone 394 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:26,000 but understanding that no, this is just a tool and it's a 395 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,100 working document that you you know, change and update as you 396 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:33,500 go along again. I think that is less confining 397 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:37,300 and much much easier for it. Diner to accept because it is 398 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,100 little more fluidity they get there has to be some Freedom 399 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:45,400 built into the business plan. So I have to park where there's 400 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,200 nine Parts but in two big Parts, your vision and then the 401 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,100 traction piece, like, what are you going to do next, when you 402 00:21:52,108 --> 00:21:55,200 get to that traction peace. Yes, there are one year at a, to 403 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,200 call them on your priorities, because goal, seems very scary. 404 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,900 And then I say, what do you put your quarterly Focus. 405 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:05,600 So we kind of create 327 Focus areas more than quarter. 406 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,600 That speed even to some of those goals, you don't have to tackle 407 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,200 every goal or priority every quarter, but there is fluidity 408 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,200 there so that what you're working on maybe this quarter 409 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 does not necessarily what you have to work on next quarter and 410 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,900 it's literally like a working document that helps guide next 411 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:25,900 steps. That that's the key to success. 412 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:30,200 I'll tell you, I've another design client didn't last very 413 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,400 long, but here's why, so she was so adamant. 414 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,800 That there didn't need to be a strategy or as soon as she 415 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,500 created a strategy. Be with fell back. 416 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:46,000 On every client is different. Mmm. 417 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,100 And I can't even figure out what I'm going to do this quarter 418 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,000 because I don't know what's going to happen, Okay? 419 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:54,600 So that's a little bit of mine management. 420 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,700 Like we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. 421 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,700 Like I don't know. Do you know know we've? 422 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Yeah. Okay. 423 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,800 However that doesn't mean that you can't have a plan or put 424 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,700 something in your You're right? Or is every client different? 425 00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:11,600 Yes, every client is different because we're dealing with 426 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,900 humans but they are human okay? That still doesn't mean that you 427 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,800 can't have systems and processes, right? 428 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:25,200 So she resisted like adamantly with a big Capital, it like this 429 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,800 one of a capital are having any type of plan strategy process 430 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:37,000 and did she like to wing it when Would look at their client. 431 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,100 Like, yeah, she likes her wing it. 432 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,500 She like to kind of recreate the wheel every time and she wasn't 433 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,500 getting traction. Hmm. 434 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:51,200 So it became very frustrating to her and obviously, pointed these 435 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:55,800 things out. You know, she needed that kind 436 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,400 of push now, 99% of the time, people come around and they see 437 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,000 that and they welcome the help because that's why they came in 438 00:24:03,008 --> 00:24:04,900 the first place. Yeah, that's while I don't. 439 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:08,700 But I think if you're listening and you are someone who's tell 440 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,400 yourself, every client is different. 441 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,500 So I just, I don't know for I'm not sure what's going to happen 442 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,500 tomorrow. So why would I ever have a plan 443 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 or if I create a list of goals and priorities, half of them 444 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,700 will never happen. So maybe that's not a good idea. 445 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:23,900 Anyway, am I wasting my time? Like you're not setting yourself 446 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:25,100 up for Success. Yeah. 447 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,500 Um, you do everything possible to. 448 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,300 I mean, your goal is to be a successful business owner, 449 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:34,500 ultimately, right? So if I need to put some things 450 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,300 in place to help, Make that happen. 451 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:41,000 There has to be a bam. Yeah. 100 Pence absent. 452 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:45,100 Yeah and it's hard I think when you're coming from a 453 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,100 nine-to-five kind of job where your day kind of is planned. 454 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:53,500 Yeah, in a sense or it's got more of a plan than if you're 455 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:58,200 owning your own business. It's hard to shift your thinking 456 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,100 but it's possible. Right? 457 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:04,400 So it's totally possible. Yeah, then for the designers 458 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,700 that are Starting out, do you have any recommendations for 459 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:14,300 just like some basic mindset traps that they might fall into 460 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:17,500 some things that they might overcome just to help them kind 461 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,900 of get over that first hurdle of really going out on their own. 462 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,500 Mmm. Okay, couple things come to 463 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,600 mind. Number one is all you really 464 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,900 need to know is the next best step. 465 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,400 Hmm. Okay. 466 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:33,000 So you do have to have a vision or else your kind of it's like 467 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,300 think about your GPS. Okay, so your Yes, when you turn 468 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:39,700 it on, number one, asks you where you're going, mmm? 469 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:44,300 So you could put in a city name or you can put in a specific 470 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,000 address, it doesn't matter, it's still like it, it just needs to 471 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200 know where you're going. It's know where you're going. 472 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,600 A lot of times when people start out it's like I like to say 473 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600 they're standing at the bottom of the mountain and they're 474 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,000 looking up and they can't see the peak. 475 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,400 It's kind of covered in the clouds but they know what's up 476 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,300 there. I think they need to know your 477 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:05,800 destination. You also the next thing the This 478 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,700 is going to ask you is what your do, we start at your current 479 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:12,700 location, like, where do we start, right, so you have to 480 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:16,500 kind of assess like, where you're at, okay, where are you 481 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:20,300 in terms of time, money and brain power? 482 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,500 Like, how much of each of those resources do you have available 483 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,300 to put into the new Endeavor? Okay, so that's like knowing 484 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,600 where your current location is. Then you have to kind of decide 485 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,100 which parking You're leaving from. 486 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,400 So I like to call these parking. Lots are kind of the parking. 487 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,100 Lots of, am I doing this business? 488 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,500 Because I'm movement wanting to move away from something like 489 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,400 I'm moving away from the Horrible Boss, okay? 490 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,900 And I just want to be my own boss, all right? 491 00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:00,000 Are you moving away from something, or are you in a 492 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000 parking lot, where you're at, you're wanting to move towards 493 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,400 something. What's your mindset here you 494 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,300 are? I just I'm moving towards being 495 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:11,400 in charge of my own income and that's exciting to me. 496 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,500 All right. That's another parking lot. 497 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,600 And the third parking lot is, you know what? 498 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,200 This might be someone that's actually already started a 499 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,900 little bit but nothing's really wrong. 500 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,200 It's all actually everything's kind of okay. 501 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,600 But I know it could be better. Mmm, Yeah. 502 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Okay. So you've got to kind of assess 503 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,700 where you're at and you're thinking and here's why, because 504 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:39,200 when the going gets rough, F and you start to question things, 505 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:44,300 you have to kind of go back to what's my why, like, why am I 506 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,100 doing this? You've got to keep reminding 507 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:50,800 yourself because it's very easy to go down the slippery slope. 508 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,500 Like as you're driving down the street, you know, if you're 509 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,900 going to get groceries, you know that there's going to be a stop 510 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,300 sign along the way, because you've traveled this road 511 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,600 millions of times. But just because there's a stop, 512 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,300 sign, does not mean that you turn around and go home, right? 513 00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:06,600 Right. Like You're going to keep going. 514 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,800 So there's going to because you want to get to the grocery 515 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,500 store. 250, it's like, what's your? 516 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:14,400 Where are you going? You moving away from something. 517 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,400 You try to move towards something or you just trying to 518 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,700 make things better. Yeah, that's going to get you 519 00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:20,800 through the stop sign. Right? 520 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,700 So that the stop signs, hopefully they'll turn into just 521 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,800 roundabout someday. All right? 522 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,700 Because my brand of us God bless accident or more absence but 523 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:33,300 less depth or whatever. Just kind of like slow. 524 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Yeah okay this is slow things down. 525 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,900 I happen to Live in the city in the US with the most roundabouts 526 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:45,000 actually world but that's why roundabouts are in my in my 527 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,500 head, somebody to call them rotaries. 528 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,100 So just assess where you're going this the general 529 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,300 direction. Even if she's a city named your 530 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,500 current location which parking lot you started from, and what 531 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,500 are you going to do when you get to that stop sign? 532 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,700 Like, are you willing to work on this for as long as it takes, 533 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000 are you? Or are you going to throw the 534 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200 towel in before you You get to where you want to go because it 535 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000 might be tough to. Yeah, that's really good advice. 536 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Yea, so if someone listening might want to reach out and work 537 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200 with you, how would they find you? 538 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,100 So, I am on social media, my Instagram and Facebook, but 539 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:24,400 here's the thing that I think that might be most helpful to 540 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,400 your listeners. So depending on what stage of 541 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,200 your business you're in, you might be asking yourself why am 542 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,100 I not getting done or my my not creating the traction? 543 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,900 I want to create like so I call You're stuck in this. 544 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,500 I just need to be more productive or I just need to 545 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,800 focus kind of mode. So if you go to Andrea's with an 546 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,500 S links with an S Andrea's links.com, the very top you're 547 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,400 going to see a link to take the quiz. 548 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:56,700 I've developed a quiz that helps you figure out like what your 549 00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:00,800 productivity archetype is. What how are you most 550 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,300 productive? Let's getting in your way of 551 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:06,100 productivity. There's also in that same Link 552 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,900 another quiz. So let's say you're like okay 553 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,500 I've got my act together but now I'm ready to scale my business 554 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,700 to another level, there's another quiz called the business 555 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,800 Freedom finder quiz. So you may have gotten to the 556 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,900 place where, oh my gosh, this is so successful, but I feel like 557 00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:22,700 I'm so involved in this business. 558 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:25,500 I need to like, I needed money to hire someone. 559 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:29,000 You hire more people doing to raise my rates, that's for 560 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800 someone, whose business is just a little bit more developed to 561 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600 kind of give you a sense of where you need to focus. 562 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,600 So I think if you Had to Andrea's links.com and find 563 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,400 those quizzes. That's probably the best way to 564 00:30:40,408 --> 00:30:44,500 start to hear me and listen to some of this thinking. 565 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:48,400 And I also have my own podcast which you can also follow called 566 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,600 time to level up, time to level up and I think I just recorded 567 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,200 episode 120, so great, the whole Library there. 568 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Good good. Yeah, great. 569 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,500 And so in that podcast, you address more mature, businesses 570 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,600 or businesses starting out or just Level up in life in general 571 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,900 or it's really leveling up yourself personally and 572 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:15,200 professionally. Yeah, so it's for anyone who 573 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600 actually even you don't even have to own a business, but it's 574 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,400 geared towards women who own businesses and whether or not 575 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200 they or in charge of making their own money. 576 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,000 So a lot of times. So my clients are commission 577 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600 based for example. So they may not be the business 578 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,900 owner but they kind of are in a sense they need to run their own 579 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,500 show, right? So I I'd say there's two 580 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,900 elements to ingredients to the secret sauce, their systems, and 581 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,400 then there's mindset. And I spend time on both of 582 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,500 those in the podcast. Okay, great. 583 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,100 We'll put links to all of those things in our show notes so that 584 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:54,300 everybody can find it and I always love a good quiz to so I 585 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:57,200 might go check that out. I'll go check it out here check 586 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600 it out. Yeah and if I mean it'll give 587 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200 you some direction and you could always there's a link there to 588 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,200 that to connect with me, if you want to do a complimentary 589 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,100 strategy. Recall, I'm always up for that 590 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400 perfect. So thank you so much, Andrea, 591 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800 really appreciate you coming on podcast this week. 592 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,700 You are welcome. Thanks Rebecca. 593 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,200 Yeah, we'll talk to you later. Okay. 594 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,100 So as you can see, and it has a lot of great advice. 595 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,700 I love all its she says about mindset and just hearing about 596 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:35,300 how she built three businesses and that at just think that's so 597 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:37,400 impressive. And I know that she herself had 598 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,400 to overcome some mindset obstacles to build three, large 599 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,300 and successful businesses as well. 600 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:47,600 So lots to be learned from her. You can find her contact 601 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400 information In the show notes, go ahead and reach out to her 602 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:55,600 and learn more from her as well. 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