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Hello and welcome to episode 139
of Design Curious podcast. 

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I'm your host and mentor, 
Rebecca Ward. 

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Today on the podcast, I'm 
talking to those people who are 

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second career interior designers
or looking to change out of 

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their career into interior 
design and you're not wanting to

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go back to school necessarily 
for a four year degree or maybe 

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even don't even have the time to
go for a two year degree. 

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How can we get you into design 
firms and use what you have as 

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your skills already up to date 
as something that is desirable 

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by a prospective employer. 
So that's what we can talk about

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in the episode today. 
Definitely something I work on 

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with people in my design mentor.
I know it's challenging to try 

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and get hired when a lot of 
positions say that they need a 

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degree in interior design. 
And even if you don't have that 

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doesn't mean you can't apply for
the position. 

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And there's ways to make 
yourself desirable to that 

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perspective employer without the
degree. 

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Of course, the degree is great 
if you have time to go back and 

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do that, but not everybody does.
So we're going to talk about 

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that today. 
OK, so let's get into it. 

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You're now listening to Design 
Curious, a place where you, 

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Creative one, are here to learn 
about what it really is like to 

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be an interior designer. 
And I'm your host and mentor, 

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Rebecca Ward. 
If you're worried about how to 

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succeed in a creative career, if
you're ready to learn your next 

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steps to become an interior 
designer, and if you want the 

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satisfaction of doing something 
you love every day, you are in 

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the right place. 
Grab a coffee, a notebook, and 

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let's dig into today's episode. 
OK, Let's talk about how to make

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you marketable to other interior
design firms. 

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This would be likely residential
firms that we're going to be 

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talking about today. 
When you're starting out and 

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shifting careers, like maybe you
come from experience in the 

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workplace for a while, but not 
interior design experience, 

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which is what a lot of interior 
designers are looking for when 

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they're looking to hire a design
assistant, an entry level 

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designer, or just someone 
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Just because you haven't been an
interior designer before or you 

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haven't had your own projects or
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a designer and you maybe you've 
just come out of school or 

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you've taken a certificate 
program or something, that 

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doesn't mean that you're not 
marketable to a prospective 

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interior design employer. 
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thing I talked about with my 
mentees in my Design mentor. 

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If you're interested about what 
skills of yours are 

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transferable, then you can get 
in the program and we can talk 

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about it because everyone has a 
unique history and path that 

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brought them to this point. 
And you do have experience. 

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You have life experience. 
And keep in mind when you are 

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applying to work for an interior
designer, likely they are a 

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smaller firm. 
Maybe they have only a few 

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employees. 
Some of them are larger and it 

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might be harder to get into 
those doors. 

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But the smaller firms, maybe 
it's a solopreneur who's finally

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ready to get some help, some 
boots on the ground help with 

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installations or anything like 
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They will require that you wear 
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Often you're not just going to 
be designing, so those other 

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hats that you need to wear, you 
likely have some experience 

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doing that. 
So let's talk about what kind of

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skills an interior designer 
might be looking for when they 

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go to hire you. 
One of the main ones that is 

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really transferable is project 
management. 

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Doesn't matter what industry 
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there is a project management 
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through to take that project or 
whatever it is that your team's 

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working on from start to finish.
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understanding. 
There's a system, making sure 

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there's checkpoints, staying on 
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All those are skills that are 
transferable and things that you

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should be talking about when you
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interior designer because that's
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them. 
Maybe they don't have as much of

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that skills and so you can 
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way by being super organized or 
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systems. 
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If you love spreadsheets and you
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organized, that's going to be 
another thing that's that lights

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people up. 
It gets interested in you. 

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If you've worked a lot with 
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or maybe you've done sales. 
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design because you're dealing 
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You're hand holding the client, 
you're selling designs, you're 

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selling product and those skills
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If you've been creative in any 
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event planning space or weddings
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creative process very similar in
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runs this process. 
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transferable sometimes at first 
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So if you just say that you were
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prospective employer is not 
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those transferable skills. 
So it's important to spell it 

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out for them in your cover 
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them in person or on the phone, 
all those things. 

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And then if you have business 
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telling you these things are 
what I look for when I'm hiring 

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someone on my like, oh, you 
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bookkeeper here or you work for,
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That is going to be great 
because I need someone to bounce

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ideas off of a business or just 
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Help me like another set of eyes
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experience in it. 
I think all of these things will

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be helpful and transferable. 
So just because you don't have 

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interior design drafting skills 
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before, put together a mood 
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all, you're not hireable because
you already have so many life 

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skills. 
But secondly, those can easily 

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be learned while you're waiting 
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So take a look at your past if 
you're in this position, just 

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write down your job descriptions
that you've had. 

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And then let's extract from that
this transferable skills into 

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interior design. 
It's not all creative like we've

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been discussing here on the 
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It's like 20% creative, right? 
You can't always just be in this

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wonderful flow creative state. 
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project, but then there's all 
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it, the people part, the systems
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selling part. 
So you probably have something 

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that will transfer. 
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OK, then we let's talk about the
lack of a portfolio. 

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Well, in Episode 137, we talked 
about different ways that you 

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can develop that portfolio when 
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So you can use vignettes of your
home, you can create a virtual 

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mood board. 
You can start to learn how to 

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use a rendering software. 
There's some out there that are 

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really approachable. 
There's SketchUp, but also 

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Homestyler is a great one that 
you can use for free. 

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And then start making 3D 
renderings of potential projects

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just to show that you have some 
creative skills that you can put

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colors together. 
You can envision a space you can

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work on a floor plan. 
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you and you want to showcase 
that to a prospective employer 

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even though you haven't maybe 
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to learn how to do floor plans. 
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demonstrate your design 
thinking, so show any problem 

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solving skills. 
Maybe do a hypothetical before 

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and after, ask around to friends
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that they have in their home and
you can try to answer it. 

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You can even do a video. 
I've seen people do this on 

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Instagram where they'll take, 
you know, send me your problem 

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area in your home and I will 
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So they'll send in a video and 
then the person will talk for a 

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couple minutes on what they 
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You can add that to your 
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Just your ideas are part of your
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interior designer. 
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showcase that you have ideas 
even though you don't have a ton

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of experience in your portfolio.
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creating systems spreadsheets. 
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business system spreadsheet or 
how to run a project or create a

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welcome packet for the 
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Maybe they don't have one and 
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little research and put together
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them that they could give to 
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bit on networking. 
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there and tell everybody that 
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out mentorship. 
So come to my design mentor, but

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also locally or might be someone
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Get to know. 
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more likely you're going to be 
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Maybe someone else is hiring or 
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for. 
Don't forget your platforms like

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LinkedIn to show off your 
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It might show that you've worked
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lot of experience as a working 
professional already, that 

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you're not going to be quite so 
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You don't have to teach someone 
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answer emails. 
They can just jump right in. 

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And maybe they'll need to be 
shown how to, how to put a mood 

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board together. 
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the instinct is there. 
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So you can showcase some of 
these things on your social 

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media, put together a little 
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Picture of yourself. 
I always recommend on your 

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resume, try to keep your resume 
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People are busy and don't have a
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But I would also include a cover
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those skills that you had, those
life skills that you have that 

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are transferable. 
And then while you're waiting to

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hear back from people, actively 
pursue professional development.

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So you could join my design 
mentor and put on your resume 

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that you're in a design 
mentorship program because you 

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know, in there we, I have 
practice projects. 

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You can practice your drafting 
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create a mood board for it. 
So there's things that we can 

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work on your skills while you 
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And that will just make you even
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have more things to show. 
Or take a CAD class CAD has 

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proven to be one of the most 
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when I was first starting out, 
got me jobs in a lot of places 

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while I was trying to build my 
business. 

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So if nothing else, then try to 
learn a CAD software, fiddle 

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around with some 3D rendering 
software's, a lot of free 

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programs out there and try to 
get some hands on experience 

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volunteering. 
Maybe there's like a Habitat for

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Humanity project going on in 
your area. 

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Also, you can seek out aging in 
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talked about in a previous 
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There's a lot of other 
certification. 

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There's like sustainable design 
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So if there's like kind of a 
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that a company that you want to 
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great to take that 
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behind it, but if you have some 
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that is great and definitely 
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marketable to a perspective into
your design employer is to focus

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on your life skills that are 
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people and pursuing education, 
continuing education. 

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Develop a little bit of an 
online presence so people can 

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see some evidence of your 
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So if you need help updating 
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those transferable skills, think
about joining my design mentor. 

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And if you like this type of 
episode, let me know so I can do

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more things like this in the 
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So what did you think? 
Did you get your wheels turning 

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to see what kind of skills might
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I know you have some, so let's 
do a little work and get you out

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there and get you working for 
some other designers because 

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sometimes that's the best way to
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If you're not quite ready to 
start your own business or 

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really you don't have a desire 
to start your own business, but 

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you still want to be an interior
designer. 

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Not every interior designer has 
to be a business owner. 

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So let's talk about other ways 
to do it, right? 

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That's why this podcast is here.
I hope you enjoyed today's 

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episode and I would love to hear
from you of any other topics 

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that you're interested in 
hearing on the podcast. 

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Don't forget to check out the 
information on my design Mentor.

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Or if you're going to launch 
your business, you're going to 

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want to sign up for the wait 
list of Launch Your Business 

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Boot Camp happening this summer,
July and August. 

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For eight weeks, we'll get your 
business off the ground and 

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running. 
OK, that's it for this week. 

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Next week we'll have another 
great episode. 

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And until then, stay creative. 
Thanks for listening. 

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If you love this episode, please
leave a rating and a review. 

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This helps me reach other 
curious creatives like you. 

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If you have a topic request or 
would like to contact me, simply

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head over to my website 
arworddesign.com or e-mail me at

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podcast@arworddesign.com.