1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,300 Hello and welcome to episode 40 of design curious podcast. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,500 I'm your host and Mentor. Rebecca Ward. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,600 I hope you're having a great Monday. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,400 If you're listening to this on Monday and as we're heading into 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,700 the summer, I've got so many fun things prepared for you guys. 6 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:23,900 And I also wanted to give you a heads-up that starting in June. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,500 I'm going to be doing three interviews instead of 24 June 8 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:31,500 July. I in August, for those summer 9 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,800 months because I've just have a backlog of so many great 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,600 interviews. Then I want to get them out to 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,900 you sooner. And then also, it gives me a 12 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:42,200 little bit of a break for planning episodes for in 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,100 between, and so gives me a little bit of a summer. 14 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,500 So I have some great interviews and store for you. 15 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:50,500 So you're going to stick around for that. 16 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:54,000 And today we have another great one with Alexis Peters and 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,000 before I introduce you to her, get into her bio. 18 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:02,100 I wanted to remind you that We have those downloads for you and 19 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:05,099 you can find the links to those in the show notes. 20 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:07,200 If you're interested in the career, you're definitely going 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,900 to want to get these downloads and get that information. 22 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:16,500 And then I also have my design Mentor is accepting membership 23 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:19,900 right now and you'll want to get in there and join the community 24 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:23,900 and talk with me directly to learn about the career as I help 25 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:26,900 you get on your feet as an interior designer, and it's so 26 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,300 much fun. I really enjoy doing that. 27 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,600 So I'd love to see you in there. Might Design Mentor. 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,100 You can find a link for that in the show notes as well. 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 All right. A little bit about Alexis Peters 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 as an independent feature film production designer. 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,200 She had a percentage of a fraction of what Hollywood films 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,400 shell out for Blockbusters, by working with an extremely 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 limited budget. She learned how to get from 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,300 ho-hum to gorgeous on a shoestring Desiring to help 35 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:58,600 people and believing this can be achieved from beginning in the 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,800 home, she started Had her own styling business and solved the 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,200 one problem, we all have with our homes, how can we live 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,199 beautifully and affordably? So I thought this was a great 39 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:14,200 conversation with Alexis really fun perspective. 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Coming from the production design industry. 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:25,800 And so let's hear from Alexis You're now listening to design, 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,900 curious a place where you creative one are here to learn 43 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:33,000 about what it really is. Like, to be an interior designer 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,600 and I'm your host and Mentor Rebecca, Ward, if you're worried 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,400 about how to succeed in a creative career, if you're ready 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,400 to learn your next steps to become an Interior Designer. 47 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:48,600 And if you want the satisfaction of doing something you love 48 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:52,300 everyday, you are. In the right place, grab a 49 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:55,400 coffee, a notebook. And let's dig into today's 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 episode. Hi Alexis. 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Thank you for being on design. Curious podcast today. 52 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:03,100 Hi. Thank you so much for having me. 53 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:07,900 I'm so excited. Yeah, and I been really enjoying 54 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:11,400 reading your profile and looking at your website for audience. 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Why don't you tell them what you do and where you work from? 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,800 I'm an interior designer and I specialize in Virtual interior 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,900 design. So I'm located in Nashville and 58 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,200 I have local clients. So I have local clients. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,600 And then I also specialize in Virtual Will I do both. 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Okay, great. And then I see before you are an 61 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,200 interior designer. You did video production and you 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,100 are production designer, right? Hmm. 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,300 Yeah. So how did you do that? 64 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:44,700 Yeah, I've had an interesting Journey so, ever since I was 65 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:48,500 little, I was really drawn to film and actually more 66 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:52,000 specifically acting, but I think I got a little confused because 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,300 I, you know, I was so young and it took me a bit to fall into my 68 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:57,300 own and to learn who I was and to learn. 69 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,400 What I wanted and to really learn what matter to me on the 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,700 inside. And I think that for me had to 71 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,400 come with kind of doing a bunch of things incorrectly and then, 72 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,000 finally, they, you know, waking up being like, ahh, that voice 73 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:16,300 inside that's been bugging me since I was a child, that's the 74 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,100 voice. I'm going to start to listen to. 75 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:23,200 So before I had that wake-up call essentially I thought I 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 wanted to be an actress. So I did you know as I was I was 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 doing features. I was in These I was 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,700 auditioning, I was a waitress. I had no money. 79 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:33,800 I was doing all of that, and then I would do it Amba and then 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,900 do a nut. You know, I was doing movies 81 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,400 infrequently and then towards the end, a little more 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,000 frequently. And while I was auditioning and 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,500 acting and doing some plays, and I went to acting school too, and 84 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:49,100 I did all that stuff, I would always design, friends homes. 85 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,700 And at that time I had, I was just renting apartments. 86 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:55,300 I wasn't living a life, okay. I was in like anything bujji at 87 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:57,300 all. I was like a total La girl, and 88 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:01,300 And I just was renting a place, but I always felt and believed 89 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,500 that just because I rent doesn't mean I have to live like crap 90 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:07,600 hole, you know, does it mean to have a horrible life? 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,900 It's not fair. I didn't think that was fair. 92 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,500 Yeah. So no matter where I lived, I 93 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,200 always made my environment stunning so much. 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200 So that anyone who came over would be like, what did you do? 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Where did you buy this? Can I Airbnb this? 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,000 How do I stay here? How do I live here? 97 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:28,400 I'm like, well, I live here but I love That I got it was such a 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,400 compliment for me but I never believed that I could have a 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,500 career as a designer. I was like no I was just I was 100 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:40,000 so in my will you know I was so set in my way of like I'm an 101 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,600 actress and and then so I put that under the rug but it was 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,100 always the thing that got me out of bed, I had this roommate once 103 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:50,600 and we were like in bunk beds or something, or I don't even know 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,400 when we were just talking and it was late at night and she was 105 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,100 like, hey, are you thinking about lamps? 106 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,300 Because we were both awake. And I was like, how did you 107 00:05:58,300 --> 00:05:59,800 know? Because like I'm just worst in 108 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:05,000 there in the dark about Lambs. It's the one thing that had me 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 thrilled about my life and enough to get me out of bed and 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,500 be excited about the day. So I ended up finally starting 111 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:17,200 to listen to that when I became got a little older did more 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,800 films and then I became a producer and a writer and a 113 00:06:20,808 --> 00:06:23,700 producer is the one who hires everybody. 114 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:27,400 So hmm when it came time to needing a production designer, 115 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:29,200 Her, who the hell else am I going to hire? 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,900 But myself obviously. So I was like, I'm not gonna 117 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:35,100 Design This foam and did I know how to production design? 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,600 No. Did I care? 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,500 Absolutely. Not was I terrified. 120 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,500 Yes, every second. I was like, I'm not enough, I 121 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:43,600 can't do it. What are the terms? 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,900 What will I, how? How will I work with the DP? 123 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:48,200 How will I know what if I don't, what if I totally messed my 124 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,600 whole life up and ruin the movie and of course nothing like that 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 ever happened. And I ended up getting some nice 126 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,500 attention at festivals because my films ended up playing 127 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:58,200 festivals and celebrations. In all over the world. 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,600 So I got to I hadn't. Thank you. 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,100 Yeah, it was great. I'm so proud of that part of my 130 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:04,800 life. I really stepped into my own. 131 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:07,100 I felt just I got real confident. 132 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:10,700 At that point, I was like, ah, I was terrified, I did it anyway. 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,000 I did a good job. Okay? 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,000 And then, I ended up starting my own business. 135 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:18,900 My own design business shortly after production. 136 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:23,300 Designing, my second feature. Wow, did you have any coaching 137 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:27,300 or any mentors that pushed you in the direction of doing that? 138 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:29,800 Design. That was so scary to tackle like 139 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,700 that's such a huge he'll to get over. 140 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,000 I feel like a lot of people wouldn't be able to do that. 141 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,900 Get them myself. It was really scary. 142 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:38,700 I think the director at the time, he was my producing 143 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:40,600 partner. My writing partner and he 144 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,800 directed the two films that I wrote and produced with him. 145 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:46,700 And he was my biggest supporter at that time for me as a 146 00:07:46,707 --> 00:07:50,700 designer because he knew all the apartments I've done, he knew 147 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:54,600 what I was capable of and I would say to him, all the scary 148 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,300 stuff, all the stuff that's not true, but I didn't I Is so free 149 00:07:58,300 --> 00:07:59,800 because at that time I had no training. 150 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:03,300 I ended up getting training in home staging and interior design 151 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:05,600 and I did that later. But at this time I had no 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,700 training I just knew that I liked to make rooms beautiful 153 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:10,800 and I felt like I was good at it. 154 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,500 But so for to have it was he was just a person. 155 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:16,400 He was just my business partner, he was my sounding board and he 156 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,000 was like, you're talented enough. 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,900 You're good enough. Look at what you've done here 158 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:24,300 and here I'm trusting you. As the Director he's saying, I'm 159 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:26,800 trusting you to make this movie amazing. 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,700 And I know You can you know, one day at a time one room at a time 161 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,100 and hearing that was pretty much all that helped. 162 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:38,000 Yeah. Did you get training them before 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,100 you started your business? Or did you just start your 164 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:43,100 business and then you know get your certification as an 165 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:45,400 organizer and all those things after work. 166 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:47,700 No I got all my certifications before. 167 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:51,900 I started my business, I wanted to Stage home so I wanted to be 168 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:55,200 certified in that I didn't want to just show up and not know 169 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:58,600 what I you know I wanted to know I want to do it professionally 170 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,900 and be charged professional rate and that was the same for 171 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,300 interior design to. So I went and I got certified in 172 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:08,500 interior design home staging and and as a con Mari consultant 173 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:12,600 which is not good night. Yeah, once I finished those 174 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,600 three, then I started my website. 175 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:19,000 Okay. So did you offer virtual design 176 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,800 right off the bat in your services or was it more 177 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,000 one-on-one? Yeah. 178 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 No at first. And this is what I always tell 179 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 anyone and I know your listeners Are starting out and are wanting 180 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,700 to start out a thinking about starting out. 181 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:33,600 And where does one start? I didn't know either. 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,200 And the biggest advice that I could say is just do it just 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,600 start because I started by the name of my business was 184 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:44,000 reimagining spaces with Alexis today, its home Stein, my 185 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,300 Alexis. So that's a different name. 186 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:48,800 So by the way, that's a total nightmare to change. 187 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,800 If you can just have the correct name it 'first, please do that. 188 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,300 But if you don't guess what? My life's not over, I'm not 189 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:56,200 broke as of it. It wasn't horrible. 190 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,100 It's just He needn't. Yeah, to change but I started 191 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:02,300 it. I just got a website. 192 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:06,600 I found any guy on Squarespace and I'm not proficient like with 193 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,400 technology, which is funny because I do virtual design 194 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,300 which we can get into later, but I just paid someone on 195 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:14,500 Squarespace. I looked at one thing he did. 196 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:16,600 I have so much advice on what not to do. 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,100 I also agree forleo's, b-school. So she has like a six-week 198 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:24,400 program that essentially is like in my opinion equivalent of a 199 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,200 master's degree in Business, which is what she says. 200 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,400 It's like a big cut. So I learned so much about how 201 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,600 to start a business from her so that was Viv profoundly 202 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:37,300 impactful and helpful for me, but I would say just start. 203 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:39,500 So I started locally and I didn't know what I was doing and 204 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,600 I had no, I had no point of view. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,400 I didn't know who my audience was. 206 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,600 I didn't know who I was speaking. 207 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,300 I didn't know who I'd be designing for. 208 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:48,600 I Didn't Know My Vibe, my tone my style. 209 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,100 I didn't know any of that. Started a website from a guy on 210 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:55,400 a square space and and I didn't really get any clients or 211 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,900 anything, but it was good. But I once I did Marie forleo's 212 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:05,200 b-school and I went, ah, okay, I need to know who my audience is 213 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,000 it, who am I designing for, and all of its head and so on and 214 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,900 then I redid it and now the website that I have today is a 215 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,200 direct result of her program. She didn't help. 216 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,500 I mean just taking her courses right next week. 217 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,500 I would say just start mess it up. 218 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,800 Do it ugly? Who cares? 219 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:22,700 I didn't die over it. I lost a couple thousand dollars 220 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,800 but who doesn't when they start a business. 221 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Yeah. There's always investment. 222 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,300 Yeah. Learning curve. 223 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:32,700 Yeah, so with your messaging. Now, you are speaking. 224 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:37,900 A lot to everybody can have a wonderful home like you were 225 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:40,600 talking about early how your apartment, always, look great, 226 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:44,600 even though you're just renting. So do you work a lot with 227 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,600 renters or are you looking for first-time home, buyers, or just 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,700 anybody in particular, what is your messaging? 229 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:55,300 Now, it's funny. Ya know, I have clients all 230 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:58,200 over. I thought Oh, I'm just going to 231 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,500 have the renters and that concern me because I'm like well 232 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:01,700 I don't will they have money for it? 233 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:05,500 So I had that battle. But what I found is that the 234 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:12,100 more I honed in on beautiful and affordable architectural digest 235 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:16,900 on a budget that my audience finds me. 236 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,800 So people that are willing, beautiful and affordable. 237 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,500 And you know what? A lot of wealthy people, Google, 238 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:23,400 that. Okay. 239 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:28,100 The broke people know, it's not actually, You know? 240 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,700 So I ended up I have a nice, you know, spectrum of different 241 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:35,200 price points that people that find me have make different 242 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,000 kinds of money. But they have one thing in 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,400 common and that is they want affordable and stunning. 244 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:44,900 Okay, so how do you deliver that to them? 245 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,100 Well, and this is really fun because this is what I really 246 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:51,000 got this from production designing. 247 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,900 So now I could pull from the films I've done. 248 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:56,700 And now I now I pull from that because as a production 249 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:59,600 designer, I I was production designing independent feature 250 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,300 films, I'm sure everyone but for anyone unfamiliar it's smaller 251 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:04,000 budget. Okay. 252 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,500 So I didn't have $20 so I was not doing film starring, Julia 253 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:10,000 Roberts. I was doing films myself, right? 254 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,500 I'm going to put myself as the lead as well, so you know, we 255 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,300 were working with smaller money. Right. 256 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:18,300 So when you smaller money, what does one do? 257 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:22,900 How is that possible? So I learned how to do a lot 258 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,200 with a very little mmm, and that's kind of my magic. 259 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,400 No, that's once I was able to production design those films 260 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,000 and learn that you don't need the ten thousand dollar couch. 261 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,300 Although if you have the money and you can do it do it. 262 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:40,500 And but I think at the cheapest crap off Amazon away for I don't 263 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:42,000 do that either. I read reviews. 264 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,300 That's the most important. If you got to see the five-star 265 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:47,600 I only do five star reviews that's a five-star people right 266 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,700 in. It's comfortable. 267 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,100 It's, you know, so it's not about buying crap and making it 268 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:54,600 look pretty because this isn't a I don't do print photo shoots if 269 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 that was the case I would probably you know but because 270 00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:00,000 I'll have to live in this and a lot of people like to spend 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,200 quality money on a couch. It's Case by case. 272 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Okay. Yeah. 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600 So then, like with your design, you source for your clients with 274 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,600 trade accounts or do you use mostly than retail sources? 275 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,400 It work on a home. I usually do an entire house, 276 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,100 which is usually four to five rooms. 277 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,200 And when somebody hires me for their home, I give them my trade 278 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,000 discount. Okay? 279 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,500 So like with Pottery Barn, or though, Types of places you can 280 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,800 pass on your discount. Yeah, okay, Barnard. 281 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,100 All of them, every place that works with the tray but it's 282 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:35,800 only if they're having me to design their home. 283 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:39,400 I offer other services. I'll do like a room refresh. 284 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,700 I'm not giving them a because that's way. 285 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:43,500 It's way smaller. It's quicker. 286 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:45,900 It's only two hours of my time. That's that. 287 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:48,400 I don't do. It's only it. 288 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,500 If they, if they just want Consulting hours I have a lot of 289 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:53,500 people that just have kind of an eye but they just want a 290 00:14:53,508 --> 00:14:55,900 designer to guide them. They don't get my discount. 291 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:57,100 It's the people that have me designed. 292 00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:58,600 R home. They're the ones that get the 293 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,800 full gist. Okay. 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Yeah. So tell me a little more about 295 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,600 the virtual design packages that you do. 296 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,000 And how did you come up with the idea to do it virtually? 297 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,500 Yeah. So this is a mistake, right? 298 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:13,700 I think so. Some magic comes out of just 299 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:16,700 absolute mistake. It was literally like I had no 300 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,500 plan for this. I was in California, I was there 301 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:23,900 for a long time and was covid and I face time with my mother 302 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:27,000 daily, I'm very close with my family so and you know, I'm 303 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,400 here. Mom, and she's telling me how 304 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,700 much she hates her house. I and this is the house I grew 305 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:32,300 up in. So I'm like, you know, I really 306 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,900 hate it, but I get it, you know, it's kind of dated, it really 307 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:38,500 needed like a whole new redo. Totally, she's like, I hate this 308 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,400 room. I hate this room. 309 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,000 I was like, all right, mom, here, Stan further back, because 310 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,800 she'd be closed up. I'm like, here's Dan another 311 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,400 shot. Let me see here, let me see. 312 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,100 Do like a wide shot, you know, the of the room and let me see. 313 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,900 And then like, well what if we painted the walls like a hunter 314 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:53,500 green? What if we did that? 315 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,300 And what if you're going to need a different couch? 316 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:59,200 Because that couch doesn't work and then I Just gave her advice 317 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:05,000 over faced and then in a couple weeks, the room was so beautiful 318 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,900 and stunning. And I had never gone into that 319 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,200 house. I couldn't, that was the time 320 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,300 when we couldn't fly. So, I was in LA, she was in 321 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:17,600 Chicago and yet her home got completely, transformed, and I 322 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,100 went, and I got full body Goosebumps. 323 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,400 I was like, this is my business. This is what I need. 324 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:26,300 Not only is it fun and easy and it involves the client they 325 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,600 actually really The sense of pride in their home of, I 326 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,700 helped, I made this happen. It also makes design affordable 327 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:37,200 and accessible for all people. So you asked me how I kind of 328 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,000 hit on that. My price point is Affordable 329 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:43,900 because when someone is receiving virtual design on the 330 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:47,200 other end, they're measuring. I'm telling them what to measure 331 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,300 their on the other end with the measuring stick and they're 332 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,200 they're taping it up. So I you know I could go over my 333 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200 process to, I'd be happy to share that if you were 334 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,900 interested because it really makes it clear but But there's a 335 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:01,000 little bit more work for the client, right? 336 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,500 But it's fun and thrilling I remember I just have to tell 337 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,800 this one story. I had this man I designed for a 338 00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:10,000 lot of men to do and he was like I'm really not going to have 339 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,599 time for these appointments and I was like, that's alright. 340 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,599 You know, they won't, you know, they won't he was really like 341 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,200 not having it and he ended up having so much fun. 342 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,400 He he went to London on some work thing and he's texting me 343 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,800 from the hotel. Oh my god. 344 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,300 Did you see these floors? What do you think it? 345 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:25,400 Should we do these floors? Should we put floors like this 346 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,900 at my house. And like he just got This just 347 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:31,000 ownership of his home and I just thought that was a big 348 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,600 compliment and really fun because he got to move move 349 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,500 forward in his life then and now really loved his home. 350 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:39,400 And now he has an eye of what he likes and what he doesn't and 351 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:42,100 loved it. So yeah, you introduced him to a 352 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:46,100 new aspect that he didn't even realize he wanted to make time 353 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:48,300 for. So that's really nice that you 354 00:17:48,308 --> 00:17:50,000 could give to your clients that way. 355 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,900 Yeah, so do explain a little bit more your process if you don't 356 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:57,800 mind kind of how you make it work with the It's virtually 357 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,200 like what kind of follow-up do you do or what are you require 358 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,900 of them? Yeah, I mean so virtual, so 359 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:06,500 anyone interested in? So I think all designers should 360 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,500 offer this. I'm not saying do it only 361 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:12,800 because it's really I require that like instant gratification 362 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,900 to like I had a client all day today. 363 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:17,800 I was just at her home and Nashville and we're moving stuff 364 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,200 around. I'd like to stand there and move 365 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,900 things around taking pictures. I get the before and afters 366 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:26,000 because getting those from clients is hard. 367 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,900 Yeah, okay everyone Send them on like what? 368 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,100 It's hot. I cannot put. 369 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,100 So let's pretend you need help in your bedroom, okay? 370 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 And you don't know what to do, so you find me and you hire me, 371 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,400 you prepay, so I'm paid already, I do one room at a time. 372 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,900 So we'll start. We'll start with the with your 373 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:47,200 the primary bedroom. So we started the primary room 374 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,200 and we'll do a consultation there. 375 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,300 So we'll do like 15-20 minutes and this is all on FaceTime or 376 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,000 Zoom or Whatsapp or whatever people prefer. 377 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,500 Or in terms of ways we can talk to each other. 378 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:04,300 Now, on our phones we do it and I look at the space, ask them 379 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:06,400 all kinds of questions. You know what do you do in this 380 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,700 room or like how often are you in here? 381 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:11,000 Do you need blackout? Curtains, is that important to 382 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,500 you? Do you need Bob like I ask all 383 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:15,700 the questions. Yeah it's just you is there 384 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:17,900 someone else in here? Is there someone else to style? 385 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,000 I need to be mindful of her. What, you know, I get all. 386 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,700 Do you have an animal? I get all the questions out and 387 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:27,500 then from there I do a design board so that's just a Straight 388 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,400 up design board, it's called photo great, it's great, but I 389 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 pay for it, but they have options, you can do that are 390 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,500 free. So okay, so I use Photo Grid. 391 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,500 I do a beautiful. I add sometimes, you know, 392 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:40,800 they'll say I want to keep the bed and I want to keep the bench 393 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,300 I'm like great. So I'll take a snapshot of that. 394 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:46,800 I'll include that in the board and then I will introduce a 395 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:54,400 color palette as Style Like A vibe and a tone and feel items 396 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,800 that are missing like you need end tables. 397 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,900 We need Dart. We need a rug and they're all 398 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:02,100 inspiration photos. This is just a straight-up inspo 399 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,700 board. None of it is actually the items 400 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:07,100 but it's the look, it's a direct look. 401 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:11,000 Yeah, get the board like, oh, oh yeah, I want that board or 402 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,500 they're like, oh, I don't want yellow. 403 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,900 No yellow. I don't know how I'm forgot to 404 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:15,500 tell. You know, yellow, we gotta take 405 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,300 Rick, get rid of all the yellow or whatever it is. 406 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:18,800 Yeah. So then I'll do we do, they get 407 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800 one redo. So then they're like, okay, 408 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,300 great. Love it. 409 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:25,100 Let's move forward. Now we measure so we make an 410 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,700 appointment, so for next Friday. Okay. 411 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:29,100 Next, Comes. We measure they have a blue 412 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,800 painters tape and a measuring tape with them based on the 413 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,000 board and I already know if I'm doing the board, I know where 414 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000 everything is going to go. So I'm like, okay, so I want to 415 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,100 do an end table. Let's see how big is this space 416 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:42,800 next to the bed? Will it fit an end table? 417 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,900 That's 24 inches wide, or does it have to be a little round 418 00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:48,300 one? That's 12 inches because size 419 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:50,900 matters. If you get the wrong size, the 420 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:53,900 whole room is ugly. So it's all about measuring. 421 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:55,700 You know, I measure three times. What are they say? 422 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,500 Measure twice cut once? I'm like, Yeah, many times 423 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:02,100 Return to Never. That's what we get all the 424 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,400 measurements because I don't want my clients having to stand 425 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,000 at Kohl's in a return line. Okay, I have done that many 426 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,900 times of that is, zero chance. I don't want that for my 427 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:12,700 clients. So we measure. 428 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 I'm like, I'm thinking about a piece of art, two pieces of art 429 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,500 above your bed, 24 by 36. So they'll tape it up. 430 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:21,300 And then we, we stand in the room that meeting is one hour. 431 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:25,100 So if you do 10 hours, right? If it's 10 hours for one room, 432 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,300 that is one of the hours, okay? And then a board is about an 433 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:29,800 hour. So now we're about eight hours 434 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,900 plus the consultation was maybe like 30. 435 00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:36,000 So, you know, that's kind of what I have left and then after 436 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,300 that then I go to work and now I send them specific links, so now 437 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,400 I go from their budget at this point. 438 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Now I don't really care how much people spend. 439 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:47,400 I don't care how much people have or spend, I just need to 440 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,500 know, so I know. Am I going to our house? 441 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Or am I going to Amazon? I just need to know. 442 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Or am I going to our house for one thing and then like, maybe, 443 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,400 One thing at Pottery Barn and then like the rest away Fair, 444 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,700 like we're a my shopping for you. 445 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,100 How can I get created? So that's why I asked about the 446 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,200 money. So I'm mindful of the budget for 447 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,800 sure. And then so I send them based on 448 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,000 the money that they can spend in their room. 449 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,600 So let's say someone picks $3500 for furniture before. 450 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,700 I send them, the links that match the exact measurement of 451 00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:21,200 their space. They placed her using all the 452 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,000 fun codes and all the connect whatever. 453 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,200 Sometimes they got a call someone sometimes I got an 454 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,000 email, sometimes they have a straight-up code. 455 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:29,100 Which I always have to call ahead of time. 456 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,500 I'm in and allow people are a lot more than you think. 457 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:35,600 I've had a client call before even though I didn't call I was 458 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,300 like I order from them so much know, they didn't? 459 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:39,100 They did not okay it I had to call. 460 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,400 Hi it's Alexis I'm a proving this purchase so it's a whole 461 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,000 thing and they call it they make the purchase himself and then 462 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 when the arrives in the mail they place it in the space that 463 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,900 we have already flushed out completely. 464 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,500 Yeah, so they're not confused. I've already held their hand, 465 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 I've already been available. You know, my goal is to make 466 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,900 clients feel like Are there? My only client, which, I don't 467 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:01,300 know. Some some might be like, where 468 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:04,200 is she? But I try so hard to, like, I 469 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,700 return texts and emails of the same day. 470 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,300 Yeah. Okay. 471 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 And are you as busy as you'd like to be, or you have too much 472 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200 work? Or ya know, I don't know too 473 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,500 much. I also teach like teach Pilates 474 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,600 to mind. So I'm yeah, I know. 475 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,200 And that's another thing. For people that are starting, do 476 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,300 I have to only do design? Know, I love pillai. 477 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,000 I've been doing Pilates. Fifteen years. 478 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 So I'm finally getting certified to do Pilates. 479 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,500 So it's like I think it's possible. 480 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:34,800 I just want to have the life for me. 481 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,200 I can only speak for me, where I'm doing what I love. 482 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,600 I want to fill my cup to the top, so if it's designed and 483 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600 pilates and that's what it is. And oh well, you know what I 484 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,700 mean, I don't care what people think or what it sounds like, it 485 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:50,800 looks like I'm totally I'm filled and that that oh yeah, 486 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800 you're making it right for you. Yeah. 487 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,500 Everybody's path is different ways, but they get satisfaction 488 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:57,400 from life. Out of. 489 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000 So I like that. So what other advice do you have 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,600 for designers starting out on their Journey? 491 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,500 Do you coach them or are you available if someone has 492 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:10,700 questions about virtual design? Oh yeah, I absolutely would love 493 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:13,900 to help anyone that wants to start adding a virtual design 494 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,600 practice or offer it to their business call meal. 495 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,700 I really would love to help you because it's a lot easier than 496 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,500 you think. And my process is proven and 497 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:26,600 trusted, but that's my process. And I think that my process 498 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,700 Everyone's different people, I be like, you know what, I want 499 00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:33,700 to offer 3D boards or I want to offer, I want to do like a floor 500 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:35,200 plan. I mean there are stuff that 501 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,000 people cat in that, I don't because I don't want it. 502 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,900 When I don't want to do 3D, I don't want to be on a computer 503 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,400 all day because I'm, I don't like to do that. 504 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200 It's someone to do that. So I will really help you find 505 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,400 your voice as an artist, as a Creator, as a designer, and how 506 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,000 and what can you offer to people to make money to feel fulfilled 507 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,900 and most importantly to help somebody. 508 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:58,400 Yeah, because that's what this is. 509 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,800 We're helping people live better through design. 510 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:03,100 Right? Right. 511 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,300 Great. So good. 512 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:06,100 So what can people reach out to you? 513 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Are you on Instagram? Yeah, so I've started that. 514 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,900 I have, I'm, yeah, I'm trying to up those followers, that's it. 515 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:16,600 So, yeah, you can find me at at home, styling by Alexis on 516 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,700 Instagram, mmm, and, and my website just straight-up home 517 00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:23,900 styling by Alexis.com and that's it. 518 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,100 Those are the two places you can find me great. 519 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,900 Well, clear that in The show notes, but thank you for all of 520 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,500 your great insight for virtual designer really enjoyed hearing 521 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:38,100 about your process and like, using your life path, to inform 522 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,800 your current offerings that you have for your clients like 523 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,000 really honing in on offering affordable design because he had 524 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,300 to be Scrappy when you're a production designer. 525 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,200 And now you can just apply those skills for your clients. 526 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,700 That's great. Yeah, thank you so much. 527 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:55,200 Can I give a couple? I would really just love to give 528 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,400 some fun suggestions for that starting out because I know what 529 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,800 that feels like and I have been in those. 530 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,900 And so I had no problem doing some free clients. 531 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600 First of all, as a designer, I'll put it all on me. 532 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,900 Like, I needed referent. I needed to show people my work. 533 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,500 Well, my body of work, if I'm charging, really high numbers 534 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,800 because I know I'm worth it. I know I'm talented enough but I 535 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,200 have no pictures. What am I gonna do? 536 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,500 Oh trust me I'm good. Trust me. 537 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,900 I don't think so lady. So I had no problem. 538 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:29,700 Can I do you for free? Can I and then, or I do little 539 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,100 vignettes in my own home. I would put like a chair in a 540 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:35,600 corner or with a little round table in a little, little plant 541 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,300 or Foe, plant or something. Or a book in, like a append on a 542 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:43,400 diagonal, just anything to show my vibe and what I really loved 543 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,700 and what happened with those free clients. 544 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,800 Not only did I get hundreds of photos that I was able to edit 545 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,300 and make it look even better with right with color timing and 546 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,900 like how we all are love to change our pictures, but that 547 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,500 was just so amazing. Those I ended up telling people 548 00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,900 about me and then those clients paid do. 549 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,100 You know what I mean? Yeah, uh-huh. 550 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,900 Yeah, it wasn't for nothing. I think you know, when you're 551 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:06,200 starting out. Yeah. 552 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,300 I'm not saying and do everything for free but I do a few for 553 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:11,200 free. I would unless you already have 554 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,800 a book, if you have a full book then go ahead start charging 555 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,400 right away, you should be. But if you're really new and 556 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,900 you're kind of doing another career and you're like, wanting 557 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:21,400 to tiptoe in this. That's another way to know if 558 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600 you're even gonna like it, go to some of the neighbors house, go 559 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,500 on next door, be like, hey, I'm thinking about being a Minor. 560 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000 I want to design somebody's dining space. 561 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Is anyone you know I'll do it for free or for gas like a to 562 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,800 get back and forth something so minimal that will give you all 563 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,600 the information you need. In terms of, do I like to be in 564 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,700 someone's house? Do I like to drive to them? 565 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,500 What I prefer to just do virtual. 566 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,200 How do I interact in my? Oh, I should have brought tools, 567 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,500 I didn't bring a measuring tape. I didn't you'll learn, you'll 568 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:53,400 learn the things that you wish you would have done versus what 569 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,100 you did. So yeah, doing is the only way 570 00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,800 for me that I He's able to learn. 571 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,800 So I would just start to put yourself out there, get the 572 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,400 wrong name if you have the wrong name, doesn't matter if it all 573 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,900 falls into place in the right time as it should. 574 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,200 But nothing happens for me just by sitting there and thinking 575 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200 about it. I had to take the next step. 576 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:14,800 Yeah, really. Good advice. 577 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,300 Well, thank you so much Alexis for coming on is the joy talking 578 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:19,800 with you. Thank you. 579 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,600 It was so fun having any time. Thank you so much. 580 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,400 I really appreciate it. Yeah, talk to you soon. 581 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,500 Okay. Bye. 582 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,100 So how interesting was that? I think it was great perspective 583 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:43,100 of having worked on films and TV that she was able to use those 584 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,400 skills and transfer it to some e design and helping people who 585 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,800 want to have a great-looking space, but maybe can't afford 586 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200 the high-end designer. And so this e design is a great 587 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,100 solution for that. 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