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Aloha and welcome back to Amen 
podcast. 

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I'm lucky Lani and I'm joined by
my husband Alex and I've been 

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thinking about something a lot 
lately and I realized that a lot

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of my stress comes from when I'm
thinking about myself more. 

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Am I getting the credit I 
deserve? 

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Am I being seen by those in my 
family and outside of my family?

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Am I being appreciated for the 
things that I do? 

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It's very exhausting. 
I'm sure you can relate. 

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And this week in Philippians 2, 
we're talking about self 

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forgetfulness. 
Not thinking less of yourself, 

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but thinking of yourself less. 
And the beautiful thing is, it's

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not one more thing that we have 
to achieve because Jesus loved 

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us first. 
So he makes it possible for us. 

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We're free in Him and free from 
needing the last word, free from

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needing attention. 
So let's dive in. 

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Philippians, chapter 2, verses 5
through 11. 

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All right, you want to read it? 
You want me to? 

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I can read it. 
Have this mind among yourselves 

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which is yours in Christ Jesus, 
who, though he was in the form 

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of God, did not count equality 
with God a thing to be grasped, 

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but emptied himself by taking 
the form of a servant. 

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Being born in the likeness of 
men and being found in human 

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form, he humbled himself by 
becoming obedient to the point 

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of death, even death on a cross.
Therefore God has highly exalted

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him and bestowed on him the name
that is above every name, so 

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that at the name of Jesus every 
knee should bow in heaven, and 

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on earth, and under the earth, 
and every tongue confess that 

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Jesus Christ is Lord, to the 
glory of God our Father. 

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Amen. 
Probably one of the biggest 

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lessons about being a parent is 
you have to learn to forget 

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about yourself. 
And like today, our kids are at 

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the pool down the road at a 
hotel, a nice, lovely couple 

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that comes to Houston every year
on vacation. 

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They offered us some wristbands 
to take the kids to the pool. 

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So their grandparents took them 
to the pool this morning. 

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And we still have the youngest 
girls with us. 

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Liv is taking a nap and Lola, of
course, is with us. 

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And of course, this makes 
podcasting a lot harder, right? 

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You have to podcast when you 
can, not when you want to. 

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And when nap time happens or you
may have to podcast with a baby 

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on your shoulder. 
All of it is about learning to 

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forget about yourself and not to
always think about what feels 

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right or what feels good. 
I have been meditating on the 

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last like 48 hours that feelings
are often they feel more 

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trustworthy than the word of 
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Then God's promises, but they're
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his promises, they never change.
But our feelings do change. 

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And part of the reason why we 
need to learn self forgetfulness

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is because we can't trust our 
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How we feel about ourselves 
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And so if we rely on that, then 
we're going to be very unhappy. 

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We're going to be very we're 
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But if we learn the freedom of 
self forgetfulness, which is the

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title actually of a really good 
book by Tim Keller, we get just 

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that. 
We get freedom and we see more 

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of Christ and experience more of
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It's not about white knuckling 
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It's about just resting in the 
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forgetfully because of Christ. 
And that's what it says in verse

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It says having I got it. 

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Have this mind among yourselves 
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He's saying you have the ability
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forgetfulness. 
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Because you are in Christ and in
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thinks. 
We have that type of mind. 

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So when you think about Peter, 
right, Peter is, you know, just 

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like all of us, very selfish. 
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to get his opinions out. 
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history, church history tells us
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down because he didn't think he 
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killed the same way Christ was. 
Talk about a person who has 

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forgotten about himself and what
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to him. 
He'd learned his self 

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forgetfulness over his life. 
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in in Peter as we read the 
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letters and read the book of 
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We need to get there because 
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And also we don't have the the 
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to try. 
It's not about trying to self 

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forget or trying to be more 
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It's we have the ability because
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which is also in Christ Jesus. 
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The context is Paul is writing 
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church and he's saying this 
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same mind, the same love, the 
same unity if you guys learn to 

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forget about yourself. 
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that is possible. 
Now, the problem that we find in

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trying to have this type of mind
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same mind that Christ had, 
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we have it, but we just don't 
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We don't think that way. 
We listen to our feelings 

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instead of listening to Him. 
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verses 6 through 8 who, talking 
about Jesus, though he was in 

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the form of God, did not count 
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grasped, but emptied himself by 
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Being born in the likeness of 
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form, He humbled himself by 
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of death, even death on a cross.
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three steps into descent that 
Christ takes to come down and to

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give us this mind, to give us 
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forgetfulness. 
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Number 1, He did not count 
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grasped or held on to or 
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He emptied himself and he 
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So let's break those things down
to not clinch or hold on to his 

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equality with God. 
Jesus is equal with God 100%. 

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God the Father, God the Son, God
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equal. 
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They're not parts of a God. 
They are all God, three and one.

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It's a beautiful mystery of the 
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Trinity, the everlasting 
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Jesus is just as much God as God
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And yet when he got down here, 
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advantage. 
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I think about the picture of 
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when he veils himself, it says 
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God. 
The presence of God in shining 

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bright comes back down and the 
people are like, please cover 

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yourself. 
We can't bear to look at this 

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glory, even though it was a 
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covenant that they were a part 
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It was just making a, a point to
the new everlasting covenant 

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that was going to be in Christ. 
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and then he veils himself and 
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unveil himself and he'll look to
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Look at the glory of God. 
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shows us that, you know, Moses 
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bright and just really put the 
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just not veiling his face, but 
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He doesn't put his like he 
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like he doesn't stop being God 
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He is still 100% God while he's 
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He doesn't tap into it. 
He doesn't grasp on or clinch on

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his equality with God, but he 
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Father's plan and walks just 
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in our shoes, 100% God, 100% 
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So that's step one. 
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the form of a servant, meaning 
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He's still 100% God, but he 
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He empties by adding when Christ
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himself by adding on this place 
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He said I came not to serve and 
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serve. 
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He emptied himself by saying 
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make people, make people do what
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and carry me around so I my feet
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He come down down here, He comes
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washes his disciples feet and he
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spiritually. 
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himself by being obedient to the
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He humbled himself. 
This is what is hard for us and 

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why we don't often tap into self
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that we have in it and why we 
walk so stressfully through this

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life constantly thinking about 
ourselves is because we will not

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humble ourselves. 
But Christ shows us that the way

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to self forgetfulness is through
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He and CS Lewis says humility is
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it is thinking of yourself less.
Christ came to what to serve, 

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not to be served. 
And so think of the example of 

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cars. 
When you get to the movie Cars, 

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you see Doc Hudson, who is like 
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official mayor of Radiator 
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Why? 
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himself, why he has been 
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Nobody knows who the Hudson 
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He was an old famous race car 
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and regretful that people don't 
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And so he's grumpy. 
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things, is very happy. 
Why he, along with Doc Hudson 

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and everybody else in Radiator 
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If you know the story they they 
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today called the route, the 
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Well, they made highways around 
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hour of traffic. 
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Springs, which is a fictional 
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with Mater and everybody in it. 
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He has learned the freedom of 
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I know this is just a movie and 
I'm maybe thinking, reading too 

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much into it, but you see the 
point I'm trying to make, the 

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point I'm trying to make is the 
way to have joy is just not to 

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think about yourself is to think
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I get to do what I love today. 
I get the people that I love. 

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I get there's so much to be had,
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That is self forgetfulness. 
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You have to lose yourself. 
Jesus says if anybody wants to 

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save his life, he must lose it 
is to lose yourself by taking on

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the form of a servant, by 
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And we again, we don't do that 
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Can't go out after this episode 
and say I'm going to do that 

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more. 
I'm going to serve everyone in 

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my in my vicinity. 
It's not that what Paul is 

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saying is will be in church. 
If you guys are going to have 

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unity, if you guys are going to 
put each other first and have a 

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beautiful community in your 
church, you have to just 

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understand that it already is 
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This mind already belongs to 
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When you became a new creation 
in Christ, this mind is in you. 

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But because of pride, because of
whatever it may be, we're not 

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putting, we're not tapping into 
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So how do we do it? 
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Therefore God has highly exalted
him and bestowed on Him the name

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that is above every name, so 
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knee should bow in heaven and on
earth and under the earth, and 

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every tongue confess that Jesus 
Christ is Lord to the glory of 

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God the Father. 
So this tells us that because of

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Jesus's obedience, because His 
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because He has walked, He 
emptied Himself by adding on 

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this position of a servant, and 
because He did not forget us, 

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the whole cross, the whole 
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Christ is going to be exalted 
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exalted to the highest point, 
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And every knee on heaven and 
earth will bow, which is echoing

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Isaiah 4523 when it's talking 
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Everyone will bow before Him 
every He will, He will be the 

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highest name in all the earth. 
Paul takes Isaiah 45 verse 23 

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which he would have known very 
well as a Pharisee and applies 

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it to Jesus. 
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Jesus is more honorable or more 
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than God the Father. 
Because he says at the end verse

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11, every tongue confess Jesus 
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the Father. 
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the Son's magnificent plan that 
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foundation of the earth, he 
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about us. 
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thousands of years of all the 
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whole point, the whole gospel is
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you. 
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walked out the Father's plan, he
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That's what we get to look 
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the pattern of humility. 
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says in chapter 4 verse six that
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grace to the humble. 
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power to self forget because we 
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means no matter what you did. 
No matter what has happened to 

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you. 
No matter how many times your 

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parents as a kid have forgotten 
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store. 
No matter how many times people 

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have forgotten your birthday. 
No matter how many times people 

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have turn their backs on you and
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many times you experienced that,
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universe has never forgotten 
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No matter what you did, no 
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thought you were, If the cross 
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happened, what that means is 
even thousands and thousands of 

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years in eternity past when God 
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you, even through all that, He 
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never once forgot how many hairs
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are falling from your eyes. 
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in our feelings, because even 
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times, feelings change. 
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purpose and who He is in His 
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today, and forever, just like 
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And so through all that, we have
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And if that is true, we do not 
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of others or the acceptance of 
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We don't have to fight within 
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the same love because Christ did
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And if that is true, then we do 
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straws to try to be important. 
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Do you always have to have 
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Do you need people to know that 
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girl? 
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walking in the freedom of self 
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What does it matter if people 
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whatever that reason is? 
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is Elroy, if God sees you, if 
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remembers, God remembers. 
I'm sorry. 

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Zechariah means God remembers 
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Remember in Christmas Story, 
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the scene and is magnificently, 
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Elizabeth's womb, Zechariah and 
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this baby and their names mean 
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John the Baptist was going to be
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the two parents whose names 
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Promise. 
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Right. 
If you're looking for validation

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of others and what you wear and 
what you post and how you act 

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and how you talk and how you 
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you, are you consumed with that?
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Do you feel like you need it? 
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walking in the freedom of self 
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God did not forget you, so you 
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That's all the validation you 
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That's the validation that can 
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morning. 
That's the validation that can 

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absolutely change a person's 
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Are you consumed with how people
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Is your first and last thought 
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How do people see me? 
What are they thinking about me?

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That is a enslaving way to live,
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And do you feel? 
Lastly, do you feel overwhelmed?

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Do you feel an overwhelming need
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You feel this overwhelming need 
for people to understand you, to

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understand your case, your side 
of things, where you're coming 

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from, how you see the world? 
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Again? 
If that is, you're not walking 

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in the freedom of self 
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You don't actually need everyone
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been understood. 
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literally walked in your shoes. 
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do what you do and and how you 
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We have a God who is extremely 
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The first thing that comes to 
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in your sin is mercy is to not 
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He understands what it means. 
I love the verse that says God 

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remembers that we are just dust.
He remembers his covenant. 

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He remembers who you are and 
he's he is completely 

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compassionate. 
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And if that is true, you're not 
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You're not going to get, even if
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explain yourself to the most 
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that is human, they will not 
ultimately know what it really 

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feels like to be you. 
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answers that and he will not 
ever change the way he feels 

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about you. 
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keep on bringing ourselves back 
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If if you're stressed, it is 
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thinking about me and what about
my situation and what about this

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and how is this going to affect 
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But only Christians get the 
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can let go of all that because 
God knows exactly where I'm at 

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and he will take care of all my 
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and mercy in Christ Jesus. 
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There's this viral video of this
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have become deep purple. 
He's been standing for years and

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years and years and worship to 
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that this false God will pay 
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It would be very easy to just 
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think a lot of Christians have. 
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devastating nature of this type 
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This man, God bless his soul, he
thinks he has to mutilate his 

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body and hurt himself in order 
for God to see him and to pay 

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attention to him. 
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Elijah is fighting against the 
prophets of Baal who are cutting

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themselves and crying out, 
thinking, God, my God will hear 

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me if I do these things. 
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God is sovereign, He already had
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he would not forget about us. 
The Bible tells us that because 

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God is merciful, he doesn't give
us what he deserves, what we 

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deserve. 
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overwhelmingly pours out His 
love and blessings upon us, not 

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because we deserve it, but 
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Because God is love. 
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isn't anything that we have to 
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us. 
And in fact, the more we do 

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stuff to try to get His 
attention, we're just hurting 

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ourselves. 
We're just harming ourselves. 

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It's when we realize that God 
sent his only Son because He 

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loves us to take our place and 
to die instead of us, that we 

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realize I'm free from having to 
do anything in order for God to 

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love me. 
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into this place of self 
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I don't even have to think about
myself when I when I get to come

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to God, I can say, God, I know 
you hear me. 

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I know my sin is before you. 
I confess it to you and that is 

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that. 
I can leave it at that. 

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And now I get to forget, just 
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He throws them into the sea of 
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We get to forget all the things 
that make us this broken, messed

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up part of us. 
We get to let go of that and 

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step into this righteous, 
beautiful, forgiving 

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relationship with God. 
That is the good news. 

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That's the good news that I hope
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Let's pray. 
Father, we thank you so much for

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the goodness of who you are. 
We thank You that Your Word 

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reveals who You are to us and we
pray that it would transform us 

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from the inside out and that You
would bless us with the freedom 

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of self forgetfulness and not 
have to try to get there but 

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realize it is ours in Christ 
Jesus and just really meditate 

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on who He is. 
In Your name we pray. 

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Amen. 
Amen. 

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This is the part of the episode 
called After the Amen where we 

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ask you a question to help apply
this message to your life. 

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So many good application points 
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Our question for you today is 
how can you think of yourself 

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less? 
How can you think of yourself 

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less? 
Not thinking less of yourself, 

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just a reminder, but thinking of
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I'll answer 1st and then it'll 
be your turn to answer down in 

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the comments in your notebook, 
just in conversation with the 

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Lord or with a friend. 
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think of myself less by applying
what you just said. 

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instead of desiring like you're 
saying, like recognition or 

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understanding or whatever it is,
knowing that you already have 

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that in Christ, knowing that he 
sees you fully. 

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He knew you before you were even
in your mother's womb. 

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He is omniscient. 
So he sees and knows you now. 

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And he is just. 
Although Jesus is fully human, 

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he's also fully God, and that is
just so different from us as 

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humans. 
And we will never, we will never

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fully know the grandeur of God 
until we're with him face to 

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face. 
And so we shouldn't even spend 

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our time trying to understand 
how God so intimately and deeply

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knows us. 
But I think that we have 

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experienced this through our 
testimony, through just the 

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continued testimonies in our 
life of God's faithfulness and 

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his richness and mercy in our 
lives. 

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That is proof that he is so 
different from us and he is so 

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big. 
And we can just rest easy in 

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that instead of continuing to 
strive and, and look for the 

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ways in which it's possible that
God could, could truly love us. 

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You know, it's fully displayed 
on the cross through what Jesus 

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willingly did for us. 
And so I think that's the key. 

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And that's a shift in 
perspective in my mind that I 

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have to make when I am feeling 
this way. 

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Or I'm letting this fear of 
being misunderstood turn into 

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worry instead of just knowing 
like I've done everything in my 

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power to do the right thing and 
represent Christ in a good way. 

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And if people don't understand 
that, that's OK because I am 

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fully known by Him. 
And if I mess up, I can take the

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responsibility of apologizing or
making right whatever I did 

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wrong and know know that I'm 
still fully loved by Him. 

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And so I think that's just so 
beautiful. 

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I love this idea of thinking of 
yourself less. 

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And one thing that you brought 
up like, you know, like maybe 

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you were, you're the type of 
person who might be sad if 

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someone forgets your birthday. 
And I just love like one of our 

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sons, an older one, like a 
couple days ago was like, hey 

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mom, I remember what day my 
birthday is on. 

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And I was like, OK, what is it? 
And he told me the wrong day. 

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It was the same month and within
the same like week, but it was 

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the wrong day. 
And I don't know what it is, but

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our kids do not remember their 
birthdays. 

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They know the month that it's 
in, but they don't ever remember

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the date. 
And I think it's just it's so 

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beautiful. 
They are still very excited for 

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their birthdays. 
They still ask like, how much 

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closer is my birthday? 
But it's this like celebration 

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that we all do as a family that 
is just so fun. 

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And they don't they on their 
birthdays aren't like what's 

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next for me? 
What else are you like? 

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What else are you going to do 
for me? 

448
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,880
You know, they just want to have
fun and do special things with 

449
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,640
their siblings. 
And if, you know, we're having a

450
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,000
birthday party then with their 
friends and aunties and uncles 

451
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840
and we don't do huge, huge 
elaborate things, you know, 

452
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,120
sometimes we go on little trips 
or sometimes we have a birthday 

453
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,600
party, but it's never anything 
like so crazy. 

454
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Yet they still, I think they 
know that we know their 

455
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080
birthdays. 
And that's the the difference 

456
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,480
there. 
Like they can rest and like 

457
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600
mom's not going to forget my 
birthday because we never have. 

458
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,360
We've never forgotten any of 
their birthdays. 

459
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,960
And when, when, when it gets 
close to their birthdays, you 

460
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,920
know, we're like 5 more days a 
month away, you know, stuff like

461
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,400
that to get them excited and 
everyone gets excited together. 

462
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,400
And so, yeah, I think that is 
just so beautiful. 

463
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480
And just like the type of heart 
posture we should have towards 

464
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,640
the Lord. 
It's like I don't have to be 

465
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,600
fully misunderstood or I don't 
even have to like worry so much 

466
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,480
about myself because God fully 
knows me and he takes care of 

467
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,680
me. 
And when I need something, when 

468
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,040
it's my birthday, when I need 
something and I need his 

469
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800
provision for it, like he'll 
take care of it because he fully

470
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,440
knows us. 
And that just allows us to serve

471
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:47,240
others more because we're not so
worried about ourselves, you 

472
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040
know? 
And so I think it's just like a 

473
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,640
beautiful thing that I can 
remember now when I'm maybe 

474
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,840
thinking of myself a little too 
much, is remembering just like 

475
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,640
how just the beauty of a child's
dependence. 

476
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,120
Yeah, that's really good. 
I've definitely forgotten their 

477
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,440
birthdays. 
But you never do. 

478
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800
And I think that that's exactly 
right. 

479
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,880
I think they think my parents 
know my birthday and my parents,

480
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,760
when it is time for my birthday,
they will tell me it's time for 

481
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720
my birthday. 
So I don't have to think about 

482
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920
when's my birthday because I 
trust that my parents will give 

483
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,360
me that information when I need 
it. 

484
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720
And I think we have to do the 
same with God, that we just if, 

485
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840
if God needs you to think about 
yourself, his Holy Spirit will 

486
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,440
tell you, you need to think 
about this. 

487
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,520
You need to remember who you are
because of who I am or you need 

488
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,280
to remember to run away from 
this particular sin like he will

489
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,600
tell you to to bring the 
attention back on yourself and I

490
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,880
love that TS Lewis says don't 
ever think about it. 

491
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,680
He doesn't say don't ever think 
about yourself. 

492
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680
He says think about yourself 
less. 

493
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,960
There is a level of as a man 
thinketh, so is he like we need 

494
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,200
to think about ourselves and our
and our past and our sin and who

495
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,920
we are and how God how far God 
has brought us. 

496
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,240
But we have become obsessed with
it. 

497
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,160
Just one of the simple ways I 
think to answer your question, 

498
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,240
how can I think of myself less 
is because we're always seeing 

499
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240
our own reflection through the 
phone or through the mirrors in 

500
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000
our house or even just how shiny
our cars are. 

501
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,880
I think about like, you know, 
2000 years ago, you couldn't see

502
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,800
your reflection in the 
reflection of your 

503
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,720
transportation. 
Like you could look at the 

504
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,520
backside of a donkey. 
You're not going to see 

505
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,240
yourself, right? 
But if you look at the backside 

506
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,840
of your car, you see yourself 
and you can do your hair a 

507
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,920
little bit and there's a bunch 
of mirrors in your car and a 

508
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,840
bunch of mirrors in our house. 
And to your point, even with 

509
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,120
that, I think we see our cars as
a reflection of us, not even 

510
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,600
like our actual, but like, OK, 
what type of car am I driving 

511
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,880
and how, how are people going to
perceive me because of said 

512
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,120
vehicle? 
I just feel like there's so much

513
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,200
idolatry in cars. 
Yeah. 

514
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
No, there is I. 
Don't think anyone ever talks 

515
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,840
about that but. 
There is, and I have so many 

516
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,640
cars on Instagram save that I'm 
never going to be able to afford

517
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,040
and they're not having nice 
cars. 

518
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,600
They're cars from like 40 years 
ago. 

519
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040
But one thing I can do is just 
that, right? 

520
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Like stop saving all these cars.
Like you're not going to buy 

521
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,320
them. 
Be like just fantasizing about, 

522
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440
oh, how, how are we going to see
me if I'm driving this around or

523
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,720
I have an outdoor gym in my 
backyard and have this big 

524
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,520
mirror back there that's from 
underneath the house like an old

525
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600
mirror. 
And I just don't even need a 

526
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
mirror back there. 
Because again, the more we look 

527
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,360
at ourselves, the more we think 
about ourselves and then we 

528
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,800
think highly of ourselves or we 
think, or even if you don't like

529
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960
the way that you look, you're 
still thinking about yourself 

530
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120
too much because your value and 
your importance isn't wrapped up

531
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520
in how you look. 
And so, you know, if there's 

532
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,440
some extra mirrors around the 
house that we can get give away 

533
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,440
or put, you know, get rid of, I 
think that's healthy. 

534
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Because again, what does Paul 
say? 

535
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,160
He says, though, right now we 
look in a mirror dimly. 

536
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,200
He was saying that we can't see 
the full picture of who God is 

537
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720
very clearly. 
And he was using an example of 

538
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,440
the type of mirrors that they 
had back then. 

539
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,000
They didn't have good mirrors. 
They had very rusty, dirty, 

540
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,440
cloudy, dim, like pieces of 
metal or even like reflections 

541
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,240
in the water that they would use
to get an idea of how big their 

542
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,560
nose was or something. 
You know, it was like they 

543
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,440
weren't standing around looking 
in front of mirrors. 

544
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,400
And then these mirrors started 
popping up whenever they started

545
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400
doing it on the last couple 
centuries. 

546
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,520
And now we are addicted to 
seeing how we look. 

547
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,560
And even if you weren't thinking
about yourself in the moment, 

548
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,920
you turn around, there's a 
mirror there. 

549
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Now you're thinking about 
yourself. 

550
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,720
And the point of all this is 
just that we think about 

551
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,640
ourselves too much. 
That is why we're unhappy. 

552
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,280
And that it's it's pride. 
And so walking in humility is 

553
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400
saying, I will do what I need to
do to stop thinking about 

554
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640
myself. 
But that means I buy less 

555
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000
clothes and I'm not constantly 
thinking how I'm going to how am

556
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,560
I going to look in this? 
How am I going to look in that, 

557
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,000
whether it's that or we as 
Christians, because we have the 

558
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120
freedom of self forgetfulness 
and we have this mind. 

559
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,760
It doesn't mean we have to. 
It means we get to make 

560
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,880
practical decisions to think 
about ourselves less so that we 

561
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,040
can think about each other less.
Well, Paul, the whole point of 

562
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,680
this is Paul is saying, thinking
about what your church would be 

563
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,920
like if we live this way, 
thinking about how we would love

564
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,920
each other and serve each other 
and give good gifts to each 

565
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,480
other, take care of each other 
if we were constantly thinking 

566
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,680
about the other person. 
I just one more example. 

567
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,920
I, I, there's a young couple at 
our church that we are 

568
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,040
supporting through FCA. 
They're called, they're called, 

569
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:56,000
they're named Jared and Jamie 
Zeel ZUEHL on Instagram. 

570
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,840
And they're a lovely couple and 
they bought us like protein and 

571
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,360
electrolytes from one of our 
favorite companies and they're 

572
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,520
raising support right now, 
right? 

573
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,680
But they would take the liberty 
to spend money on this gift for 

574
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,040
us simply just because they were
thinking about us. 

575
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,200
And every time I've drank the 
protein or the electrolytes, 

576
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,200
I've thought about them and I 
thought about like what a treat 

577
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,920
this is. 
This isn't a protein and 

578
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840
electrolytes that we're going to
buy every month because it's a 

579
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,640
bit expensive, but it's the best
tasting and it's the most 

580
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,800
healthy. 
And so every once in a while 

581
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080
it's a nice little like monthly 
treat that we can get. 

582
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,280
And they went ahead and just 
blessed us with that. 

583
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,280
And I think about like the level
of self forgetfulness that it 

584
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560
would take to do that. 
They didn't post about it. 

585
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,640
They didn't ring the bell and 
come up and give it to us in 

586
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
front of church, in front of the
whole church, which some 

587
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,320
churches do. 
They have these like times where

588
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,520
they want to just look at what 
I'm giving to the pastor. 

589
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,080
You know, that's just not their 
heart. 

590
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,880
It was simply like, hey, we have
a gift for you. 

591
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,760
We're going to come over and 
we're going to share it with 

592
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320
you. 
And it was not elaborate. 

593
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920
It was just a simple, we're 
thinking about you guys and we 

594
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,159
value you guys. 
That type of experience is an 

595
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,719
experience that Paul wants all 
those in the Philippian church 

596
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,360
to have. 
And it comes from just not 

597
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,239
thinking about yourself so much 
and not having terrible low self

598
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,239
esteem, but just not thinking 
about yourself so much so. 

599
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Yeah, I was thinking about that 
too. 

600
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Like with the mirrors, like in 
that world with less mirrors, 

601
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
we're we're thinking like, well,
how will we know if like our 

602
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,920
hair is all messed up or we have
a booger or whatever. 

603
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,600
It's like we'd live. 
And I believe before mirrors 

604
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,719
existed, I'm sure that it was 
like, instead of this awkward 

605
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,560
encounter, like, oh, you have a 
booger or you have something in 

606
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,920
your teeth or your hair is, 
like, sticking up, Like, we 

607
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,239
would just help each other out. 
And it would be this normal 

608
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,480
thing of us just serving each 
other in that way and taking 

609
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040
care of each other in that way. 
And it wouldn't be so like, oh, 

610
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,720
she had to point out my booger. 
Like, oh, now, like, what does 

611
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,400
everyone think of me? 
It was just like, oh, OK, yeah, 

612
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,440
I had a booger. 
That's a part of being a human, 

613
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,720
you know. 
And I think, yeah, there's just 

614
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:06,840
a lot. 
It's not just mirrors. 

615
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
We're not saying you need to get
rid of all your mirrors. 

616
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,320
But there are a lot of things in
this life that make us very 

617
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
self-centered. 
And we miss out on these little 

618
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,640
opportunities with our brothers 
and sisters in Christ or just 

619
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,400
humans in general of just being 
human and thinking of ourselves 

620
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,320
less and helping each other out.
And so I just thought of that as

621
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,720
you were by explaining that. 
Totally. 

622
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
I think that like, yeah, if Paul
had a booger, Lydia would 

623
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,360
totally be like, oh, you just 
have something right there, I'll

624
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,360
get it for you, you know, and 
just flicked it out of his nose 

625
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
or something. 
Because yeah, we just, we loved 

626
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200
people loved each other more 
because they thought about each 

627
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,840
other more and didn't think 
about themselves. 

628
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,880
And it's just funny because that
same couple also, like, took out

629
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,200
all their mirrors one month and 
this like, took a break from 

630
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000
mirrors for a while. 
And so, yeah, they're good 

631
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,920
friends of ours. 
And if you know FCA and you love

632
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,040
FCA, if you just don't know what
FCA is, Fellowship of Christian 

633
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Athletes, like pay no attention 
to this. 

634
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,000
But if you do know FCA and FCA 
has been a blessing to you or 

635
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
someone in your life, I'll put 
the link to their support. 

636
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,640
They are the first, Jared is the
first Hawaii FCA director on our

637
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
island. 
So basically, FCA is starting 

638
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,440
because on this island, because 
me and Jared had a little 

639
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,200
conversation and we're like, 
hey, bro, you play college 

640
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,000
football. 
You're a great man of God. 

641
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,560
I think you should start FCA. 
And I, I throw a lot of ideas 

642
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,680
out there. 
I thought he was just going to 

643
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,760
brush it aside, but he was like,
yeah, I'll do. 

644
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,240
I've never heard about this, but
I'll do it. 

645
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,960
And he's doing a great job. 
And we're looking forward to 

646
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,520
seeing what he's going to do in 
our community. 

647
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160
He also serves at our church as 
a worship leader. 

648
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120
And Jamie is a young mom. 
So if you know FCA and this is 

649
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,360
ringing a bell and you want to 
bless Kauai, it's not about 

650
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,240
blessing Jamie and Jared, It's 
about blessing what God is doing

651
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,000
on Kauai. 
There's a lot of young boys who 

652
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,480
know everything about football 
and nothing about the Bible. 

653
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,720
And so it is where other sports 
as well. 

654
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,560
So I'll put the link down below 
if you want to give a one time 

655
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,600
gift or a reoccurring gift. 
But again, it's about we, we 

656
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,880
don't always do this kind of 
stuff in our podcast, but again,

657
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,080
to practice what we preach. 
It's not about Eamonn podcast. 

658
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,400
It's not about Alex and 
Mokiwani. 

659
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
It's not about how far our reach
is or what we can do. 

660
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960
When the Maui fires happened, 
you guys stepped up, right? 

661
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,320
And there's been other times you
guys have stepped up and helped 

662
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560
out in different ways. 
And we like to be really 

663
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,800
selective with the stuff that we
share on this platform when it 

664
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,920
comes to like giving and stuff. 
But you can of course, always 

665
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,160
give to aim and podcast. 
We can't do this without our 

666
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
monthly supporters, but there's 
other people in our close 

667
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,360
community, in our Philippian 
community that need that as 

668
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,280
well. 
So I'll put that link below. 

669
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
But we love you guys. 
Thank you for being here and 

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we'll see you in the next one. 
Until then, go out and be the 

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church. 
Amen.

