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Let Jesus D influence you. 
Most of our stress comes from 

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other people online telling us 
what we need to be, what we need

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to wear, what we need to buy, 
where we need to go, or what we 

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need to do. 
Jesus frees us from all of that.

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This episode is not about 
unfollowing Christian 

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influencers that are not living 
up to a a standard that the 

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Bible puts out there. 
This is about really finding 

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Christ like people in our lives 
and then letting their lives 

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influence us. 
It's not about canceling people 

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who aren't living up to a 
perfect standard. 

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It's about realizing that 
there's a standard that God has 

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that Jesus lives up to 
perfectly, and then transforms 

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us into that standard through 
his Spirit sanctification. 

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So today we're talking about 
being the influence from the 

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world completely, but then also 
being uninfluenceable. 

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If I can make up that word to 
anybody who is not like Christ. 

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Amen. 
Hello Hon, welcome to Amen 

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Podcast where we preach the good
news of Jesus Christ and how it 

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applies to everyday life. 
I'm Lukilani, your host and 

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let's talk about being the 
influenced. 

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Turn to Philippians 2 verses 25 
through 30. 

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I'll read the verses and then 
Alex is going to take it from 

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there and teach you to how how 
to be the influenced from the 

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world. 
Verse 25. 

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I have thought it necessary to 
send to you Epaphroditus, my 

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brother, and fellow worker and 
fellow soldier, and your 

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messenger and minister to my 
need. 

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For he has been longing for you 
all and has been distressed 

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because you heard that he was 
ill. 

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Indeed, he was ill near to 
death, but God had mercy on him,

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and not only on him, but on me 
also, lest I should have sorrow 

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upon sorrow. 
I am the more eager to send him,

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therefore that you may rejoice 
at seeing him again, and that I 

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may be less anxious. 
So I receive him in the Lord 

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with all joy, and honor such 
men, for he nearly died for the 

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work of Christ, risking his life
to complete what was lacking in 

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Your service to me. 
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This guy that Paul's talking 
about is a man named 

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Epaphroditus, who was named by 
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unchristian parents after the 
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And they must have worshipped at
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They must have, you know, really
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love and they modeled their life
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It's so much so that they named 
her kid that way. 

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Now, Epaphrodite is not a real 
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It's just a made-up fantastical 
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But it was very real to the 
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were living in Philippi at the 
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And at some point, Epaphroditus 
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a believer, much like the 
Philippian jailer or the the 

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girl that was demon possessed we
talked about earlier in this 

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series. 
And as you've been going through

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the stressless series, we've 
learned how to live a stressless

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life is to live a life that is a
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Christ. 
It's a mind that doesn't look 

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for the world to influence it, 
but looks to be influenced by 

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the word of God. 
And the word of God is the only 

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one that can free us from 
following what the world is 

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following after the fake gods 
out there, the the idolatry out 

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there. 
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And then verse 25, it says, I 
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you Epaphroditus. 
Now wasn't Epaphroditus from 

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Philippi? 
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The reason why he's with Paul 
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arrest is because the 
Philippians sent a love offering

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a financial gift to Paul through
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And Epaphroditus takes it to 
Paul and then when he gets 

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there, he gets sick. 
We'll talk about that. 

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But Paul is like, I want to send
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he's one of the best people I've
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He just talked about Timothy in 
last episode, but now he's 

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bringing up Epaphroditus by 
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And we're going to 1st talk 
about why we need to be de 

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influenced. 
The the problem that we find 

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with being de influenced and how
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the need is right here in verse 
25 he gives 5 titles for a a 

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Aphroditus and as he's writing 
out these five titles about his 

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close friend, he's showing us 
why we need people like this to 

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influence us. 
And if they don't meet this list

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of titles, then they should not 
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Remember, Paul is an apostle, 
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There's not many of those. 
There's no more of those. 

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But that to begin, they're all 
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There is no apostles that are 
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There is qualifications to be an
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you have to meet the physical 
Lord Jesus and he has to call 

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you to his ministry physically 
to follow him and to preach his 

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word. 
And so you think of all the 

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disciples. 
You think of Matthias who added 

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on later and took Judas's spot. 
But Matthias was there from the 

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beginning of Jesus ministry when
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the ascension. 
You think about James, the half 

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brother of Jesus who joined the 
ministry and has a book where he

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talks about wisdom and he was 
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But we also think about Paul, 
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apostle who wrote most of the 
New Testament, and he was one 

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that was saying this guy Timothy
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This guy Epaphroditus is 
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And here's why he's awesome. 
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doesn't meet these five titles, 
they should not be influencing 

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you #1 He says Epaphroditus is 
my brother. 

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What does it mean to be a 
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He's saying that we're closer 
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We're cut from the same cloth 
that even though he's not called

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to be an apostle like I, he is 
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different way. 
But he has been my brother in 

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the ministry. 
He's been closer to me. 

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What does the Bible say about 
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That a brother is born for 
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That when times get hard, God 
gives you siblings to stand up 

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and help you when nobody else 
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So is the person influencing you
like a brother to you or someone

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that you would call a brother or
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But also, and even that right 
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people that need to influence us
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right? 
They need to be physical people 

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in our lives that can show up in
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show up. 
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might be helpful. 
They may share helpful stuff, 

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but they cannot and will not 
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Here's the problem also with 
satellite churches, right? 

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I worked at a satellite church 
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largely influenced by Life 
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Life Church is a church in 
Oklahoma that has definitely 

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pioneered the idea of multi 
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The idea here is that you have a
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that your pastor, head pastor 
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and then they film him and then 
they send that that video file 

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to another church also by the 
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And they give like a flat 
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version of your pastor. 
The problem with that is that's 

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not church. 
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this one pastor is feeding so 
many other pastors and so many 

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other people out there. 
And so there's not a lot of 

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preachers, not a lot of sound 
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And so we have to do a digital 
pastor to these other multi site

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satellite campuses. 
Do we think that God cannot 

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equip his church? 
Do we think that God cannot call

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up preachers within his body and
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Of course he can. 
The Holy Spirit of he's been 

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doing that for 2000 years before
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We don't need multi satellite 
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We need physical pastors who can
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in your life or a physical place
where people can have leadership

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modeled on hope. 
I mean, it doesn't have to be on

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a stage modeled before them. 
Knowing that I can call, this is

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a sister in Christ that I can 
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This is a brother in Christ that
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So let's keep going. 
Another thing is he's been a 

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fellow worker to Paul. 
Paul is saying Epaphroditus is 

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the type of Christian that has 
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the trenches and worked with me.
I've seen this at our own church

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that we have young men and women
who when we have events, when we

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have stuff, they work hard. 
They they try their best to just

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serve God as if Jesus himself is
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itself is coming to this service
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this event. 
And certainly he is because he 

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is with us everywhere. 
Do you have people in your life 

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that are influencing, 
influencing you, that work 

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alongside you? 
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says he's not just a fellow 
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So #3 is that he's a fellow 
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Are the people influencing in 
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As in are they fighting with you
for Christ, fighting with you 

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for the gospel, fighting for the
freedom of others because it is 

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for freedom that Christ has set 
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Are they fighters? 
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life gets hard, when they get 
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down and give up or do they keep
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Have they been there day one? 
I can think about people that, 

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you know, we didn't, we received
some persecution from doing the 

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podcast. 
But because it's online, it's 

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really easy just not to read 
comments and emails and stuff 

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like that. 
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ministry, there is physical 
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violent or painful or just 
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painful. 
But we have have people in our 

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life who have been here since 
day one and they've gone through

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And it's been so encouraging to 
know them and to be in the fight

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with them. 
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you, and I hope, I hope what 
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they don't have to be older than
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Remember, what does Paul say to 
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Let no one despise you or look 
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but be a good example in your 
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in the purity of your life. 
So you can have people younger 

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than you influence you, but or 
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The next thing, the 4th 1, is 
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my worker, my soldier, also your
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He's your messenger. 
He's been a person that shared 

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the message of Christ with you 
and he is also brought a message

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from the Philippian church to 
Paul and he's a messenger of the

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Philippi church. 
What a cool thing to say that he

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was a messenger in one of the 
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churches of all time. 
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influencing you a messenger of 
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Do they take the message of the 
gospel to their workplace to 

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where it needs to be? 
Do they take it to your 

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gatherings? 
Is the message of Christ always 

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near and dear to their lips and 
to their heart? 

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And the last title that we need 
to have the people influence us 

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to have is A minister to my 
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Are the people influencing you 
meeting the needs of others, 

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ministering to those who are in 
need? 

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Paul tells us that true religion
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And I can think of a couple in 
our life that is has a big 

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influence in our life and they 
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foster parents. 
Do are there needs in your 

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community and and are the people
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Are they meeting those needs? 
That's a big red flag if they're

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not so, these five things, you 
can see the need for a person 

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like this in your life, right? 
I hope you do look at verse 26 

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through 28, for he has been 
longing for you all and has been

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distressed because you heard he 
was ill. 

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Indeed, he was ill near to 
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But God had mercy on him, and 
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lest I should have sorrow upon 
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I am more eager to send him, 
therefore, that you may rejoice 

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at seeing him again and that I 
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This is revealing to us the 
problem that we have when we 

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cannot find people to influence 
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Good people trice like people. 
It also reveals to us why we are

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so easily influenced by the 
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be de influenced. 
The problem with being de 

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influenced is we look for 
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right? 
Very easily it's we can look for

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influence in those who are 
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prosperous. 
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people that need to influence 
me. 

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But those same people, would you
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Would you would you call them a 
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Would you call them a, a 
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physical and also mental and 
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Would you call them messengers? 
They may be a messenger that may

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be the only title out of that 
whole list of five people that 

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they meet. 
But if you really look at those 

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titles, do they meet all those? 
The problem is we don't look for

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those to influence us in the 
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You need to look in the space of
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influencing you. 
It was funny when I when me and 

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Lokelani just met, we were going
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put on sermons of very popular 
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It was 2 that we kept going back
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pastors and one that we 
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the one that got cancer. 
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insignificant because when a 
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serving Christ, goes through 
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It is a blessing. 
I remember the times in the book

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of Acts where the apostles are 
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hurt, persecuted for the gospel.
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away rejoicing because they were
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the name. 
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suffering while we're following 
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It is to it. 
It is for us to say, blessed be 

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the name of the Lord you give 
and you take away. 

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It is that we may share and what
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that we may share in the 
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It's important that when you're 
looking for people to influence 

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you, you don't look in places of
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You look in places of suffering.
Here's a little example just to 

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bring it home. 
If you're looking for a trainer 

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to help you get strong, to lose 
some weight to, you know, become

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a better physical version of you
with health, you're not going to

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look for somebody who has had a 
very easy, eat whatever they 

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want, no discipline. 
They're not in shape. 

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They just kind of watch a lot of
TV and, and when they go to 

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Target instead of walking, they 
they're perfectly healthy, but 

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they take the little cart that 
other people actually need and 

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they push around the cart, you 
know, drive around the cart 

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around the store. 
You're not going to look for a 

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person like that, right? 
They haven't been through any 

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suffering. 
They haven't picked up enough 

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dumbbells. 
They haven't done enough pull 

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ups. 
They haven't fasted enough. 

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They haven't cooked enough 
healthy meals and sweated 

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through the kitchen trying to 
figure out what is healthy, 

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what's what's in a caloric 
deficit. 

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They go through the suffering 
and that's what makes them a 

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good trainer. 
That's what makes them someone 

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that you can look up to and 
listen to so that you can get to

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a different place. 
It's the same way spiritually. 

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Why do we think that the people 
who have the the most biggest 

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followings, the most amount of 
money, the coolest clothes, the 

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coolest cars, the frictionless 
life, why do we think we're 

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going to really learn a lot from
them or that we can trust them 

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to influence us? 
Of course we cannot. 

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We want to look for people like 
Paul like Apophroditus who have 

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gone through stuff and you might
be thinking what if what is 

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Apophoditus gone through Just so
I know Alex the type of person I

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need to look for. 
That brings us to our last point

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and that is how to be de 
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receive him and and the Lord 
with all joy and honor such men 

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for he nearly died for the work 
of Christ, risking his life to 

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complete what is lacking in you 
and your service to me. 

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Excuse me, So what happened? 
He's delivering this letter to 

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Paul, and while he's doing so, 
he gets really sick and almost 

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dies. 
But he keeps on going and now 

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he's better and Paul is saying 
him back to Philippi. 

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I want you to notice something. 
Epaphroditus didn't go through 

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physical persecution from the 
hands of the Romans or the hands

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of someone who hated Christ. 
He's going through a persecution

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of illness. 
He's going through a hardship of

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illness. 
He is physically sick while he's

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serving Christ. 
That is suffering for Christ. 

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We think that suffering for 
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being jailed up or hurt 
physically because of what 

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you're doing for Jesus or 
preaching the gospel. 

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No, you could just have a 
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I think about my my good friend 
Jamie Carrington over on 

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Instagram who is in a wheelchair
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his life, if not all of his 
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He has an illness and has a 
disability, but he is a great 

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preacher and he preaches the 
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that even through suffering, God
is good. 

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What a powerful message that 
will certainly never get old and

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really resonates with his young 
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And I know we'll be an older 
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the Lord. 
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someone in Jamie's condition 
preaching the good news and 

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rejoicing in the hope that this 
life is short and one day I'm 

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going to walk the streets of 
gold with my Savior. 

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It's not who's going to be a 
life in a wheelchair constrained

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to these these bindings. 
How beautiful is that? 

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That is the type of man 
Epaphroditus was again, Jamie 

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Epaphroditus. 
They're not being done to the 

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head, chains on their ankles 
because of Jesus preaching the 

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gospel. 
They are going through suffering

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just as they serve Christ while 
they serve Christ. 

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And Paul is saying these are the
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women you need to influence. 
You need to let it influence 

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you. 
So what are we getting out here?

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This is how Christ lived. 
The reason why I bring up Jamie,

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the reason why I bring up 
Epaphroditus is because they 

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model Christ. 
What did Christ do for us? 

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He didn't come down here and get
a throne and a crown and say bow

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down, let's have a party and I'm
going to be your king. 

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Kingdom of God is here. 
No, He says the Kingdom of God 

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is at hand and then he gets 
nails in his hands. 

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He says the Kingdom of God is 
near. 

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God is near. 
And then he literally comes near

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to us and walks in our shoes, is
tempted in every way without 

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sin, and then takes the cross 
that we deserve that had our 

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name on it, and he dies instead 
of us. 

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Talk about God came near. 
That is our Savior. 

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If the people influencing you do
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that savior, they are not worthy
to influence you. 

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They're not trustworthy if the 
people that influence you do not

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model Christ if they're not 
Christ like. 

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That's simply what we're trying 
to get down to. 

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And guys don't think somebody is
Christ like because they talk 

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well or because they talk about 
Jesus. 

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I just saw a podcast episode 
clip where a girl said you can 

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have a spirit of late, a spirit 
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I was realizing realizing that 
my church had a demonic 

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influence, a spirit of tardiness
upon them and I had to pray that

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off of them. 
So I just started showing up 

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early. 
Listen, I know that sounds 

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really good. 
That is ridiculous. 

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We have not where in scripture 
does it say that there's a 

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spirit of tardiness in the 
Bible. 

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That's it's what does Jesus say 
that the Pharisees are doing? 

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They heap up giant. 
Burdens upon the people that 

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just simply don't need to be on 
them. 

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Christ came to free us, right? 
If you're working out, trying to

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get somewhere on time, work that
out. 

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You're not in sin because you're
tardy. 

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What if you have a toddler? 
What if you had like a set back 

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and now this is like a burden? 
What if you stubbed your toe or 

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a tackle off the wall and you 
stepped on it and now your foot 

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hurts and so you're a little bit
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That's not a demonic influence. 
That's just life. 

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And if you listen to people like
this, what they're going to do 

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is they're going to put burdens 
on you that don't need to be 

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there. 
You don't need another set of 

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dumbbells. 
Yeah, your dumbbells aren't 

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pretty, but they're heavy. 
And if you pick them up, they'll

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give you biceps. 
You know, The thing is they 

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these influencers will say you 
need this, you need this 

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Christian energy drink. 
No, you don't need that. 

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You need just to drink water, 
you know. 

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So this is the problem. 
If they're not Christ like, we 

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put a standard on them that the 
world has come up with to call 

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them Christ like. 
And that's a problem because we 

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may call what is Christ like 
that has nothing to do with 

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Christ. 
And then we let those people 

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influence us. 
There are some things that are 

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so evil that you can't even see 
they're evil. 

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They're masked by niceness. 
And what the Word of God is 

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doing in our hearts is it's 
untangling that which is 

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confusing to us, or maybe just 
not clear. 

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We have to let the Word of God 
get into us so mesmerizingly, 

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meditatively powerful that when 
we look at anything, we filter 

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it through the Word of God 
first. 

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You can live this way. 
The Spirit of God is going to 

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make sure that you live this 
way, the Spirit of God that 

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lives inside of you. 
So he risked his life to 

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complete what is lacking in your
service to me. 

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The Philippians wanted to serve 
Paul and as they wanted to do 

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that, they can only do so much. 
And so Paffordatis picked up 

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where they left off. 
And even if it cost him his 

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life, he was going to finish the
work that this church was doing.

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So let me give you a couple 
application points on how to be 

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de influenced by the world. 
There's just three things or 

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maybe 5 #1 are they from the 
Lord? 

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Remember Paul says receive 
Epaphroditus as he comes back to

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you and he's saying because such
men are from the Lord, honor 

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such men. 
We should only receive that 

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which is from the the Lord, the 
people in our life that are 

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influencing us. 
We should only receive them if 

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they're from the Lord. 
How do we know they're from the 

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Lord? 
How do they handle suffering? 

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You can tell someone is from the
Lord with how they handle 

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suffering. 
And I'm not talking about their 

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kids left out a Lego and they 
stepped on a Lego and they got a

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little angry. 
You know, I'm not talking about 

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that. 
I'm talking about serious 

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suffering where you may be sick 
while you follow Christ. 

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You may be barren as you follow 
Christ. 

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You may be persecuted for 
following Christ. 

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You may be made fun of for 
following Christ. 

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You may be belittled for 
following Christ. 

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Those people who are you're 
seeing that happen to, how are 

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they handling it? 
How are they handling Christ and

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following Christ in those 
moments of suffering? 

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If they're handling it with 
patience, with the fruit of the 

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Spirit, with kindness, with 
gentleness, with with boldness, 

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with courage, if they're 
handling it like Paul would 

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handle it, if they're handling 
it like Jesus would handle it, 

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they are somebody you need to 
honor in your life. 

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When's the last time you honored
your pastor or honored if you 

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have a good set of parents who 
have modeled this before you? 

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When's the last time you said 
thank you? 

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When's the last time you said to
your pastor, to your youth 

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leader, to your young adult 
leader, to your parents, to your

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brother and sister in Christ 
that is influencing you in a 

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godly way? 
When's the last time you said, 

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hey, I want you to know you've 
been a huge help in my life and 

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if you need anything, I'm here 
to help you out. 

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If you need anything, just call 
me. 

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That is what Paul was to 
Epaphroditus. 

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That's what Epaphroditus was to 
the Philippian church. 

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Honoring them is just telling 
them how much they've been to 

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you. 
It's not about. 

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Sometimes we think it's like 
posting them on our story or 

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bringing them up in front of the
church. 

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You can do that. 
I'm not saying that's bad. 

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I'm saying that most of the time
What the the godly influencers 

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in your life, what they really 
want is for you just to come up 

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to them and say, you have been 
so helpful to me with what 

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you've done in my life and if 
you need anything, please tell 

452
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,360
me. 
That's how you honor them. 

453
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,560
That's the best way to to honor 
them. 

454
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960
The next thing would be look at 
their life. 

455
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Look at their life. 
Before you let someone influence

456
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,960
you, look at their life. 
Is that the life that you want? 

457
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Now, I'm not saying look at 
their stuff. 

458
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,360
They may have stuff that you 
want, right? 

459
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:30,240
Like a pair of cool headphones 
or a car or a house or a really 

460
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600
good looking spouse. 
You may want those like things. 

461
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,840
But mostly that's material, like
fleshly things. 

462
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320
I'm talking about. 
Look at the stuff that you can't

463
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,160
put a price on in their life, 
right? 

464
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,720
So let's say they have a lot of 
kids. 

465
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,640
Is that what you want? 
Do you want to be 55 years old 

466
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:56,760
with a table of children and 
grandchildren eating pie and and

467
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,200
grass fed beef and seed oil free
food, laughing and having a good

468
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,600
time? 
Can't wait to get up and go play

469
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,560
some board games? 
Can't wait to go play some 

470
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,640
cornhole or some some games 
together. 

471
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Is that what you want? 
Is that what you're looking 

472
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,080
forward to when you're 55 years 
old? 

473
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,640
If the answer is yes, you don't 
get there by being an 

474
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,640
undisciplined person. 
You don't get there by just 

475
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,200
doing whatever feels good or 
chasing whatever thing the world

476
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,160
is telling you to chase you. 
And most importantly, godly 

477
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,360
grandkids and kids are on your 
around your table praying 

478
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:35,640
together, worshiping God 
together. 

479
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,440
You don't get there by following
people that are just regularly 

480
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,120
on your algorithm. 
You get there by purposely 

481
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,520
choosing physical beings. 
Not just digital beings, but 

482
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,080
physical beings in your life 
that already are living that 

483
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,440
life. 
Look at their life and ask 

484
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,360
yourself, is that the life that 
I want? 

485
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,840
Not their stuff, but the life 
that they have now. 

486
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,000
The second. 
The third thing would be think 

487
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,200
for yourself. 
What the Word of God gives us 

488
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,560
the ability to do is to have our
minds so transformed through it 

489
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,480
that our mind is renewed to the 
point where we can think 

490
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,960
properly. 
Do not let the word world think 

491
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280
for you. 
Don't let influencers think for 

492
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,440
you. 
Let Jesus D influence you by 

493
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,800
giving you his spirit and his 
word so that you can think for 

494
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240
yourself. 
When you're when you're at 

495
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960
church and your pastor is 
preaching, you should not just 

496
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,920
be taking everything that he's 
saying without a grain of salt. 

497
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,120
You should be Bible open. 
Scripture knows in scripture 

498
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,080
looking at is my pastor lining 
up to this? 

499
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840
If he's talking more about 
politics, if he's talking more 

500
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,360
about himself and the own little
little stories of his life, he's

501
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,680
not in the word of God, right. 
If he's using the word of God as

502
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,800
like in a little like extra 
seasoning on top of his already 

503
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,480
manicured message, then that's 
not preaching. 

504
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000
What you must do is you must be 
a Berean. 

505
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,360
You must be a person of the 
book. 

506
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,840
You must be a person that knows 
the word of God for yourself. 

507
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,680
And of course, allow teachers 
and preachers, not too many 

508
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720
remember, because Paul says that
in the last days that people 

509
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,160
will heap up for themselves lots
of teachers. 

510
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,560
So listen, you shouldn't have 
more than like you shouldn't 

511
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,400
have more than like, I don't 
know, I can't put a number on 

512
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,840
this, but it is it probably 
shouldn't be more than 10. 

513
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Like if you know 10 creatures 
that are really powerful and 

514
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,040
really biblical, that is good. 
But they are not going to be as 

515
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,840
influential or helpful to you 
than like the three to maybe 5 

516
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600
people that you frequent at some
point. 

517
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,000
It's either a lot of bad 
teachers in your life, or it's 

518
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,080
some good teachers and some bad 
teachers, or it's a ton of good 

519
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,480
teachers, but you can't track 
with any of them because you 

520
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800
have so much food on your plate.
And it could be all good food. 

521
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920
You see what I'm saying? 
But it could be too much for 

522
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,320
you. 
And so look for the people in 

523
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,760
your life that are good solid 
teachers and, and you don't need

524
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,960
to have dozens of them. 
Just have a couple. 

525
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,000
And most importantly, have a 
physical one in your life. 

526
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,360
A physical pastor who is 
teaching the word of God in your

527
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,360
life or a physical small group 
leader. 

528
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760
If you go to a mega church, you 
need to be a part of a small 

529
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,600
group where you have a physical 
shepherd over that small group, 

530
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,040
over that 10 to 20 people that 
can check in on you and teach 

531
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:45,120
the word of God to you. 
And as you follow them, think 

532
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,800
for yourself, use the word of 
God to think for yourself and to

533
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,360
walk it out. 
And lastly, the last thing would

534
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,200
be, are they vain? 
Are they vain? 

535
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,000
This kind of connects to look at
their life. 

536
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,400
But what I mean by vain is if 
they spend more time in the 

537
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,960
mirror than they do in the word 
of God, if their if their life 

538
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680
is empty, if, if their words are
empty, if they're not getting to

539
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
anywhere. 
But it's just like, look at me, 

540
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,400
do I sound cute? 
Do I look cute? 

541
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,080
But I'm also very Christian. 
I don't cuss, I don't curse, I 

542
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,720
don't chew, I don't hang with 
those who do. 

543
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400
I don't smoke any of that. 
But as you look at their life, 

544
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,080
they're all about themselves. 
Are they vain talking about 

545
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,800
themselves, explaining what 
they've done and who what 

546
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960
they're doing for Jesus? 
If they're vain, they don't meet

547
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,240
the criteria that we just talked
about in verse 25 S Ultimately, 

548
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
do they walk in the shoes of 
Jesus, walk in the footsteps of 

549
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Jesus who laid down his life for
us so that we could be 

550
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,960
influenced by his Spirit, not by
the spirit of this world. 

551
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880
Amen. 
Father, we thank you for an 

552
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,520
opportunity to open up your Word
and to see what you see and to 

553
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,640
hear what you want us to hear 
about this world and about the 

554
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560
people who would influence us 
the most. 

555
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,880
And we pray that we would have a
good discussion online on land 

556
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,160
now and that You would provide 
all of our needs in Christ 

557
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Jesus. 
In your name we pray. 

558
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Amen. 
Amen. 

559
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320
This is the part of the episode 
called After the Amen where we 

560
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560
ask you a question to help apply
this message to your life. 

561
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,600
Our question for you today is 
how do you need to be de 

562
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,760
influenced? 
How do you need Christ to de 

563
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,240
influence you? 
I'll answer 1st and then it'll 

564
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,240
be your turn to answer by 
replying in the comments or 

565
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
answering the little question on
Spotify. 

566
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,840
But as always, just as Alex so 
beautifully said, we need 

567
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:50,280
physical people influencing our 
lives, physically speaking about

568
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:55,280
this answer, answering this 
question with a friend or mentor

569
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:01,440
or family member is another 
great way to apply this and 

570
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:09,680
continue to grow in the Lord. 
How I could be de influenced? 

571
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:18,560
I think one thing that I've 
noticed is very like easy is 

572
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,240
like as we, I don't know, it's 
very easy that the more that you

573
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:31,560
take in, like the more that that
you become like that person. 

574
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:40,920
And I think that there can be 
like a lot of just like ways of 

575
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,120
speaking in Christianity that we
pick up on and don't even 

576
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,120
notice. 
And I think that like in my 

577
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,000
life, that can very easily 
happen at times where it's just 

578
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,120
like little lingos that I'm 
saying. 

579
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,640
And it's not what they're 
necessarily bad, but maybe it's 

580
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920
unhelpful. 
Maybe it's like I've I've found 

581
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,560
in within Christianity, there's 
like this jokiness that a lot of

582
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Christians kind of like embody. 
And this is not me saying you 

583
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,800
shouldn't laugh or have a good 
time. 

584
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,720
There's nothing better than 
wholesomely laughing with your 

585
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,120
brothers and sisters in Christ. 
Like I feel like it is very 

586
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,160
bonding to share laughter, but 
like this flippancy and this 

587
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:33,200
like jokiness and I feel like I 
can and it and it also combines 

588
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,440
with like this like complaining 
or like kind of thing. 

589
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040
But it's like said in a joking 
manner that like, it doesn't 

590
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,160
seem like you're just outright 
like complaining or whining. 

591
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,040
And I can find myself like not 
always saying things out loud, 

592
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,600
but thinking it in my head too. 
And as Alex was like preaching, 

593
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,800
I just was thinking about how in
order to truly be the 

594
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,480
influenced, like he was saying 
like, run what you're hearing 

595
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,920
through the word of God. 
Run people's lives through the 

596
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,960
word of God, whatever their life
is preaching just physically or 

597
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,440
like actually audibly like 
seeping that through the word of

598
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,639
God or sifting that through the 
word of God. 

599
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
But it really requires us to 
slow down. 

600
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,800
If we are so busy going to the 
scene, going to that thing, just

601
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920
excited to like just say the 
next thing in conversations, 

602
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,280
make sure that our voice is 
heard. 

603
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,840
We are going to completely miss 
the opportunity to be de 

604
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,560
influenced to go to Christ even 
in the midst of conversations. 

605
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,920
Not in a weird way, like, OK, 
hold on real quick. 

606
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,440
I need to pray right now. 
Like, but just like that whole 

607
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,199
praying without ceasing, like 
just always having the word of 

608
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,719
God on your mind, always 
acknowledging that Christ is 

609
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,360
with you. 
And yeah, it requires us to slow

610
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,040
down. 
And I think that's just one way 

611
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,440
that I can like be helped and 
then just how helpful you can be

612
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:17,200
when you don't engage in that. 
I think in our past house church

613
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,520
sermon that Alex preached, he 
was saying that the baby sorry, 

614
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,320
he was saying that no one to be 
silent. 

615
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,960
And so I think that's another 
way of like, we don't always 

616
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960
have to be so quick to move to 
action. 

617
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,400
And this world wants us to 
constantly be doing something or

618
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,120
buying something or reaching 
some goal when we've lost kind 

619
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:49,040
of this appreciation for just 
the mundane, for just like the 

620
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:58,120
everyday routine ways of life. 
And yeah, I think I'm just so 

621
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,800
grateful for our kids because 
when you have a lot of kids, you

622
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,320
basically have to have a mundane
life. 

623
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,440
You can't just pack up and go 
anywhere you want. 

624
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,120
And you learn to love it. 
Like I have really learned to 

625
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,800
just be home. 
And I used to think, well, it's 

626
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
really bad that we haven't 
gotten out and we haven't left 

627
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,000
the house. 
But it's like if you can learn 

628
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,040
to love your home and work in 
your home and love who's in your

629
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,520
home with you. 
Like you don't have to be so 

630
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
quick to, I have to get out. 
I have to do something. 

631
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,600
I have to experience life. 
Like life is in the small 

632
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,520
moments, life is in the small 
things. 

633
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,960
But I think much of what we're 
influenced by is bigger, better,

634
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:47,800
and like new and novelty, when 
really at times it's just 

635
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560
continuing to show up and do the
same thing over and over. 

636
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:59,240
So I think that's what just kind
of spoke to me mostly. 

637
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:04,120
And yeah, and I think it was all
good. 

638
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,440
I think I could, like, go 
through the entire sermon and 

639
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,960
pick apart different parts that 
were super helpful. 

640
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,000
But we want to hear from you and
hear whatever however the Lord 

641
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,840
is speaking to you through this 
episode, how you need to be de 

642
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,120
influenced. 
Knowing that the only way to 

643
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,720
truly be de influenced is by 
sitting at the feet of Christ 

644
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:32,640
and remembering the gospel, 
applying the gospel to our lives

645
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,320
each and every day, dying daily 
to our flesh and picking up our 

646
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,800
cross, whether that's physical 
suffering or any other forms of 

647
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,880
suffering that you may be facing
right now. 

648
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,480
But I love that Philippians is 
all about suffering well and 

649
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,560
having joy in the midst of it, 
and this is just another one of 

650
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
those episodes that points that 
out. 

651
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,600
Yeah, as, as you're thinking, 
I'm just thinking about how like

652
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,040
one of the sufferings is like 
parenting. 

653
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,200
And yeah, I made the joke about 
like the Lego, you know, but I 

654
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,880
think it's, it's not just, yeah,
it is stepping on Legos. 

655
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:21,000
It is like sleepless nights. 
It is making finances work or 

656
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,600
cooking a fourth meal. 
You know, it's just a hardship 

657
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,720
of raising children in a 
imperfect world. 

658
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,800
You know, I think that before 
Adam and Eve's sin, do you know 

659
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,920
if they would have kids before 
that? 

660
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,680
It is as easy as you don't need 
clothes, you know, there's no 

661
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120
like thorns and thistles of life
to prick you. 

662
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,800
It's like, yeah, go run down to 
the banana tree and grab some 

663
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,400
food or go take a shower in the 
waterfall. 

664
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:56,000
You know, it's a lot easier and 
not that hard is bad. 

665
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,960
You know, it's like. 
But it's the world is a broken 

666
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,880
place now and being able to 
raise kids in that is hard. 

667
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,840
And so I think that is one of 
the sufferings that we go 

668
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,920
through quite often. 
And I don't think of like the 

669
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,400
hard times of parenting. 
I don't think of them as like 

670
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,040
what Epaphroditus went through 
or even what the apostles went 

671
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,800
through. 
But they are hardships. 

672
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,760
They are like sufferings. 
And you are, we are doing it 

673
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,480
while we serve Jesus, which is 
very powerful. 

674
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,920
And so how we go through those 
sufferings is and how how we 

675
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,280
handle it is very important, 
whether it is stepping on a Lego

676
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,200
or changing at your 10th diaper 
for the day or having an upset 

677
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,400
stomach. 
But also trying to like play a 

678
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,320
video, not a video game because 
we don't play those. 

679
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:54,320
But trying to play a board game 
with the kids, you know, that's 

680
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,120
really hard, but I don't always 
handle it well. 

681
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,080
I think that I get really 
frustrated and I, I think part 

682
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440
of the reason why we get 
frustrated is because we don't 

683
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,160
think this is suffering for the 
Lord. 

684
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,400
Like even that I've heard people
joke with that. 

685
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:13,600
It's like you pull up the church
and like a, a beater, like a 

686
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,240
messed up car and it's breaking 
on you every week while you're 

687
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,840
also trying to pay rent and go 
to work and go to school or 

688
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,840
whatever. 
And people are like, nice car 

689
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160
and you're like, Oh yeah, 
suffering for the Lord. 

690
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,400
But like you are, you know, like
that the fact that you have a 

691
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,320
flat tire every week or that 
your engine keeps shutting off 

692
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,600
at a stoplight, all that is a 
suffering that you're going 

693
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,720
through while you serve the 
Lord. 

694
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,080
And if you do it with gladness 
and joy and patience and 

695
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,520
maturity, you are suffering for 
the Lord. 

696
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,800
We shouldn't belittle that or 
joke about it, because that is 

697
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,880
what frustrates us. 
When we think that this is a 

698
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,400
meaningless suffering, we get 
frustrated. 

699
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,560
But when we think, no, this is a
suffering that I get to portray 

700
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,400
Christ through, this is a 
suffering that I'm going through

701
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,640
as I serve him. 
Then now the suffering has 

702
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,520
meaning, and the meaning is 
sanctification. 

703
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,600
The meaning is glorification. 
So yeah, just revisiting that. 

704
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,200
And I think that like a lot of 
times people will see that and 

705
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:25,280
they will want that joy that you
have through you persevering 

706
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,960
through suffering. 
But I also think that sometimes 

707
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,360
through your suffering, you will
receive more suffering or more 

708
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,920
persecution. 
Like one example is like, I have

709
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,320
really bad back pain. 
I've just had a chronic back 

710
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,320
pain. 
And every time, every 

711
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,400
postpartum, it's just re 
triggered for some reason. 

712
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,600
In pregnancy, it's actually not 
too bad. 

713
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:58,160
But in every postpartum it's 
triggered once again. 

714
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:07,160
And I have had people tell me 
like, well, maybe, you know, do 

715
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,720
you think you should have more? 
Like, what about your back? 

716
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Like kind of trying to deter me 
from having more children 

717
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,920
because of this suffering? 
And it's not like a life 

718
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,280
threatening condition where I 
shouldn't have children through 

719
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,000
it. 
You know, it's something that 

720
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:29,040
with exercise, I can improve it.
But it's there, you know, it's 

721
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,680
there. 
And it's constantly been there 

722
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:36,560
for the last 15 years. 
And some seasons better, some 

723
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,120
seasons worse. 
But yeah, so just know that, 

724
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,320
again, filtering everything 
through the Word of God is so 

725
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,520
important because sometimes 
you'll get a good reaction, 

726
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400
reaction from suffering well, 
and sometimes you'll get more 

727
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,320
suffering on top of that or more
persecution on top of that. 

728
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,200
So our Christ is our anchor. 
The Word of God is our anchor. 

729
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,760
It's what we can always go to to
know how to truly live. 

730
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,160
And it's the power of the Holy 
Spirit, so. 

731
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Yep. 
So true. 

732
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Yeah. 
Grateful for you. 

733
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Yeah. 
Don't belittle your suffering. 

734
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:27,200
And, yeah, you know, we have a 
baby farting on us and, and 

735
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,880
crying and ready to eat. 
And there's a lot that suffering

736
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,680
entails. 
And everybody's different, you 

737
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,920
know? 
And so I think sometimes we 

738
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,200
think that, well, if we're not 
being stoned by Steven and we're

739
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,840
not going through suffering, but
everyone's different and God has

740
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,280
a plan for everyone. 
And yeah, with that said, we 

741
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,160
love you guys and we're grateful
for you. 

742
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,440
And we pray that you find this 
episode helpful. 

743
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
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744
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,200
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745
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,960
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746
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,720
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And we're so grateful for all 

747
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,480
our financial supporters 
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748
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,320
sponsorship free and to keep 
these series and these Bible 

749
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,280
studies coming out every Sunday.
We maybe take off 1 Sunday a 

750
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,480
year. 
It's just because we love it. 

751
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
And you guys have been so 
faithful to help us keep the 

752
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,520
lights on so that we can 
continue to do this. 

753
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,360
And we just want to say thank 
you. 

754
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Yes, thank you very much. 
And until the next episode, go 

755
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,920
out and be the church. 
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