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He's a very smart intellectual. 
And what's interesting is when 

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he was in college, he was a 
Marxist. 

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And then I saw in a previous 
interview, you're like, well, 

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what changed? 
He said facts. 

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I was like, in other words, what
changed your mind? 

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Facts. 
So he became a Marxist when he 

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was young and then started 
actually studying. 

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And what really opened his eyes 
was when he went to work for the

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government. 
And he's been a lifelong 

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capitalist. 
Much bigger. 

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Well, definitely more people 
than people was not confined by 

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race. 
It was not defined by race or 

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created by race. 
It existed for thousands of 

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years. 
History professor student come 

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up to him and ask him, well, 
when when did slavery begin? 

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He said you're asking me the 
wrong question. 

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The question is when did freedom
beat him? 

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But slavery existed as long as 
we have any records and they and

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and archaeological fine. 
We realized that people were in 

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slavery and other people before 
they could read and write, so it

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That's always existed, and it's 
existed all over the world. 

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The number of white people 
enslaved by pirates in North 

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Africa was greater than. 
The Barbary Pirate. 

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United States, you know, and 
yet. 

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So what he just said was that 
there were more white people 

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enslaved by the Muslim Barbary 
Pirates than there were blacks 

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that were enslaved and brought 
to the United States. 

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By the way, there was like 2500 
or 3000 black slave owners in 

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the early days of the United 
States. 

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Most people don't know that. 
But that's not that's not, 

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that's not even mentioned by 
most of the special. 

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So I tried to look at slavery as
a worldwide phenomenon and it's 

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something that's lasted for 1000
years. 

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I also tried to ask the 
question, why did it end? 

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It ended here because of the 
Civil War, but it didn't end 

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anywhere else. 
Because of that, it took over 

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100 years to to root it out 
again. 

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In the literature, there's a ton
you can find a shell growing you

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with books about United States, 
the West Hemisphere, Africans, 

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but virtually nothing about the 
rest of it. 

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This book about the European 
enslaved by North African 

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pirates came out in 2003. 
By 2004, you couldn't find the 

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copy and all the kind of persons
going out of print. 

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There was just no interest in 
it. 

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Racism. 
Yeah, especially now with all 

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these people claiming they want 
they're owed reparations and 

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they built America and all this 
crap. 

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Well, we got Doctor Thomas 
Sowell. 

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This is when he was younger. 
This I believe is from the 

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1970s. 
He was talking to women about 

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some of them, I think, worked 
for the government. 

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And obviously there's a bunch 
of, you know, white people and 

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they're all in favor of like 
welfare and stuff like that. 

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And, and he talks about the data
on it, what I actually did to 

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the black community in there, 
the families there. 

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Black family has always been 
disintegrating. 

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That is nonsense that these 
studies go. 

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Up to 1925. 
The great bulk of black families

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were intact, 2 parents families 
up to 1925 and going all the way

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back through the era of slavery.
So it is now only within our own

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time that we certainly see this 
inevitable tragedy which the 

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welfare system says it's going 
to rush in to solve. 

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Do you have? 
Peer approval. 

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Yep, yeah. 
I mean, this is in the last 1015

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years, this video, but the first
one where he looks really young,

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that was that was filmed in the 
1970s. 

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That was, I believe, Milton 
Friedman, the great economist 

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who was one of his professors 
actually, that he studied under,

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because when he first took 
Milton Friedman's class, he was 

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a communist and a Marxist at the
time. 

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And but it wasn't until he went 
to work for the government that 

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he realized that Marxism was 
just based on BS. 

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Why not? 
I don't care. 

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I mean, I was still in 
Washington taking both. 

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Milton Friedman's for us. 
But I, I. 

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But one summer in the government
was enough to let me say, you 

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know, this government is really 
not the answer. 

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I mean that is. 
Milton. 

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Friedman didn't cure you, but 
the federal government, the 

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federal government did. 
So what would say the federal 

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government doesn't do anything? 
You guys know who Milton 

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Friedman was? 
He's a very famous Thomas. 

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We've watched some of his clips 
before with him. 

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He was a little short guy, had 
glasses, kind of bold on top.