1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Nobody's skin, no matter how good it looks on the screen, is 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,840 100% perfect. Every single time I log onto 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,840 Instagram, I come away thinking that I need to buy about 5 new 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,720 products. It does feel overwhelming 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,360 because it is overwhelming. If you're not doing your basics 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,400 of using a sunscreen every single day, you don't need to 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,080 bother because you're just undoing all the work that it 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:25,360 would do. Do we really need a 100 step 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,520 skin routine? I'm going to stop you right 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,960 there and say there's no such thing as glass skin. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,120 I think that's a little bit of a marketing tool. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,920 I'm going to put that in the show notes because I feel like 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,160 that's going to change people's lives. 14 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:40,960 I'm very excited about it. You're listening to the Too Much 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,560 Information podcast where no Women's Health topic is off 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,920 limits. Before we get started, I just 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,760 want to say thank you. This podcast would be nothing 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,400 without you. Follow along if you're not 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,600 already, and if you like what you hear, please spread the 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,120 word. Enjoy the episode. 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,760 Hello and welcome to this episode of Too Much Information. 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Today we are talking all about skin care and importantly how to 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,200 simplify your skin care. Because I don't know about all 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,120 of you, but every single time I log on to Instagram, I come away 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,920 thinking that I need to buy about 5 new products, invest in 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,680 a whole new routine. And there are a lot of people 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,440 who maybe don't know their stuff who are recommending a lot of 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,560 products, which is why we have got a qualified expert in the 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,120 form of Doctor Sonia Sharma, A consultant dermatologist here 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,160 today. I'm so excited to have you here. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,960 Sonia, welcome. Thank you so much for having me. 32 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:47,560 It's so lovely to be able to, you know, talk about this area. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,080 This is my like expertise. I love talking about this. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Honestly such a pleasure. I mean, I've only recently 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 become more interested in skin care personally. 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,600 It's a funny one to do on a woman's health podcast because 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,680 some people might think it is quite surface level, but your 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,080 skin does play a massive role in your self-confidence and I think 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,600 that trickles down into everything else. 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,360 So I'm buzzing about this topic and I know that it's one that 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,480 firstly and most importantly, my little sister has been really 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,840 badgering me to do, but secondly, loads of listeners and 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,160 followers have just been so excited about it. 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,080 No, it's great. And absolutely you've, you've 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,600 hit the nail on the head there because you know, sometimes you 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,080 have a small little blemish somewhere or you've got really 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,240 Florida acne or other inflammatory skin conditions 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,280 like psoriasis or eczema and it can affect their face and it can 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,120 really affect your confidence. And I feel like as women, I 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,000 don't know what you've grown up in, but I had the glossy 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,320 magazines of the 90s and being all the supermodels and 52 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,840 airbrushing and all of that. And I think it's a lot of 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,000 pressure on women to look a certain way. 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,920 And so when there is something that we don't necessarily feel 55 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:04,600 comfortable with, it can really damage people's self-confidence. 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,560 So I think this is right. This should be on a Women's 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,960 Health podcast, definitely. And now it is, thank God. 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,800 I would love to know what got you into this field, Sonia, what 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,760 inspired you to get qualified as a doctor and then go into 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,120 dermatology specifically? Yeah, so I think, yeah, from a 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 very young age, I've known that I wanted to be a doctor. 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,720 And so I'm actually, I have type 1 diabetes and I was in touch 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,320 with, you know, lots of doctors from a from the age of five when 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,680 I was diagnosed. And it was more how because I 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,000 think I was so young, I didn't quite understand life without 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,600 it. And I, as I grew up, I kind of 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,560 saw how my mum handled, you know, my condition and the way 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,720 the doctors were with her and how they made her feel as a, you 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,560 know, worried parent of a child. And I think I was just like, do 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,000 you know what? I want to do that one day, Make 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,040 somebody'd mummy, you know, happy and you know, make them 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,320 understand that their child is an abnormal or unusual and they 73 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,200 can live a full and healthy life. 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,840 So I think that really started my passion in trying to help 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,160 people. And then I was in about, I 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,720 think, third year medical school, I saw a lady with really 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,680 terrible and inflammatory autoimmune condition and 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Scleroderma. And it not only affects your 79 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,800 skin, but it affects your internal organs. 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 And I said, oh, you know, you have trouble with your kidneys, 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,880 you have trouble with your lungs. 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,320 She said, that doesn't bother me, it's the skin because people 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 can see it. And from then I was like, yeah, 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,000 I'm going to do dermatology because I think I can help 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,800 people feel better about their skin. 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 And that's what I want to do. That's amazing. 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 We were talking just before we started recording about how you 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,680 relatively recently have started talking about skin care and 89 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,880 dermatology and hair I think as well on social media. 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,760 When did that start? So that started roughly about 91 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,800 2024. My sister is AGP. 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,240 So they, they deal with a lot of skin conditions in primary care. 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,440 And my sister was like, I think, can you please help me answer 94 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,520 some of these questions? I'm getting a lot from my 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,680 followers. And I was like, yes, I can help 96 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,240 you. And she's like, well, you love 97 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,360 chatting and you just don't stop talking ever. 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Why don't you just go on to social media and try and answer 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920 some of these questions? And she said, and there's loads 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,960 of nonsense out there, you know, like missing information. 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,000 So she was like, I think you could have a go at trying to 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,920 help people on there and educate people on there. 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 So that's where it all kind of started. 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,960 The first question that I have Sonia, why do you think that 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 women are so overwhelmed about their skin? 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,880 I mean, where do I start? I'm in this field, so my social 107 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,440 media, when I go into there is inundated with skin care 108 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,480 products, brands, people saying what they've used. 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,120 So I think it's very much in the forefront for me. 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,800 But I know from my friends, you know, everyone is not Googling 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,120 much anymore. They're going down tick tock 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,120 rabbit holes or, you know, on Instagram to look at. 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,200 They look at other people be buy things. 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,040 So I think social media has really changed and there's a big 115 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,000 marketing out there for skin care brands and products, which 116 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,960 which is great that there's so many out there for different 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,760 skin types and skin tones. But it does feel overwhelming 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,000 that, you know, there's so much out there and you just think, 119 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 where where would I even possibly start? 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Then there's a new product and a new viral product, and you 121 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,160 think, oh, I could do with a bit of that and maybe I should try 122 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,280 it, you know? And we're all human at the end 123 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:48,680 of the day. And I suppose that's why 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,280 marketing is out there, isn't it? 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,680 To fall into this like human psychology and make us want to 126 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,040 try things because we feel it may do something for us. 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,840 Yeah, it does feel overwhelming because it is overwhelming. 128 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:05,400 And I, I do wonder whether a big part of that is kind of the rise 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,280 and rise of influencers as well. I often think you're looking at 130 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,400 these women who have absolutely stunning skin, but you don't 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,520 know necessarily what's gone into that. 132 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,360 You don't know what treatments or tweakments they might have 133 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,800 had. And perhaps it creates maybe a 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,280 bit of a false perception of what a 26 year old or a 36 year 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 old or a 46 year olds skin should look like. 136 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Yes, and I think the other thing is, is that there's things like 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,400 lighting and then obviously peep some people have philtres on on 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 their, you know, videos and things and some of these 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,400 philtres, I mean they're so subtle. 140 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,000 It's hard not to feel that kind of overwhelm and think, Oh my 141 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,040 gosh, that person online has completely flawless skin. 142 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,040 And I think a lot of us, when you do come up close, you'll be 143 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,400 like, oh, I didn't even know that you had this there. 144 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,440 And you're like, well, yeah, that's what makeup's for. 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,400 That's what lighting's for, you know? 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,280 And I think, I think we do need to be kinder to ourselves and 147 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,760 our skin to say nobody's skin, no matter how good it looks on 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,600 the screen, is 100% perfect. And I think that's something I 149 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,000 hopefully we can get across today. 150 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Yeah, I love that message. I think that's so important. 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,840 And I completely agree. The amount of times that I'm 152 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,480 literally just getting ready to take one photo for my social 153 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,840 media or even go onto a day of calls with my colleagues, and 9 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,600 out of 10 times I will be putting makeup on. 155 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Probably more than that, even if it's just a little bit. 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Because yeah, it comes down to that confidence thing. 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Let's talk about skin routines. Do we really need a 100 step 158 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,240 skin routine? Absolutely not. 159 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,240 I sometimes watch these videos as well of people applying one 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,520 thing after the other and then a spray and then a toner and then 161 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,560 a this. And then, I mean, I don't know 162 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,760 who has time to do that. First of all, who has money to 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 buy all this stuff? Second of all, and it's just, 164 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:13,280 it's unnecessary. It really is unnecessary. 165 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,920 I think my message has always been keep it simple. 166 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,560 You don't need to spend lots of money. 167 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:24,600 Everything you need you can find in your local Boots Super drug, 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,360 whatever, wherever you're getting your skin care, you 169 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,400 shouldn't have to spend, you know, £200 on a cream to achieve 170 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,080 that healthy skin. If you were to choose a kind of 171 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:42,080 blanket skin care routine that would work for most women, what 172 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,440 would you be recommending? So I would say a cleanser, 173 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,040 something that actually removes your makeup and removes your 174 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,000 sunscreen. You may choose a oil based 1A 175 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,360 balmy kind of one, which is meant to like melt away the 176 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 makeup. You may choose a, you know, more 177 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:03,000 of a Milky 1. So anything that's going to 178 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,240 remove the makeup. And yes, ideally a double 179 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,440 cleanse. If you are someone who wears 180 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,680 sunscreen, please do. By the end of this, I hope 181 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:13,040 everyone's wearing sunscreen and then you do need to kind of do a 182 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 double cleanse because I hopefully everyone's reapplied 183 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,640 their sunscreen as well. So you've got that sweat, 184 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,960 sunscreen, makeup and you know, if you've been out and about, 185 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,480 you will, you know, especially if people live, you know, in 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,160 inner cities like London or Manchester, you're in touch 187 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,360 with, you know, pollutants in the air as well. 188 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,360 So that would be my main thing is to get a good cleanser and it 189 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,880 doesn't have to be expensive. Remember it's going down the 190 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,160 drain. So you use it to wash off all 191 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 the bits and then and it's going down the drain. 192 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,360 So you don't need to spend a lot of money on a cleanser. 193 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Please, please don't. And then I'd say a moisturiser. 194 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,240 People think that acne skin or acne prone skin doesn't need a 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,040 moisturiser. It absolutely does. 196 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,320 And actually you can get lots of lightweight moisturisers which 197 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,360 are great for acne prone skin. And so everyone would benefit 198 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,640 from a moisturiser. And then my third step would be 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 an SPF. And that's your like basic 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:20,400 three-step routine, which most of the days that I, I do, I have 201 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,080 to put my hands. I don't actually cleanse my face 202 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,880 in the morning with a cleanser. I just use water. 203 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,360 That's what I do too. Is that OK? 204 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Yeah, and it depends on your skin. 205 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,440 So if your skin is, you know, and I think that's the main 206 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,480 thing people sort of need to work out what their skin type 207 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,800 is. And and if you've got acne prone 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,800 or a breakout prone skin, then that's your skin. 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Or if you're more oily in certain places but dry in 210 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,400 others, then you've got kind of combination skin and then 211 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,040 obviously dry skin. So I think working out what your 212 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,960 skin is rather than picking a product because someone said, 213 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,400 oh, this has made my skin look flawless, is actually better to 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,440 follow. And I've done it before. 215 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,680 I've used something that's given to me and it says use for dry 216 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:10,840 skin and that's broken me out because my skin isn't dry on my 217 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,320 face. So I think it's working out your 218 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,200 skin type would be would be the sort of first thing I would do 219 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 and then working out the products to suit that skin type 220 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 would be the next thing. Such good advice. 221 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,080 Like I it's so Simply put, but I've never really thought about 222 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 that. So you've almost got your step 223 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,320 one before anything else is figure out what category you 224 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,280 fall into and then hopefully the rest is made easier because of 225 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,840 that. Is there such a thing as doing 226 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,680 too much? Yes, yes there is. 227 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,000 I suppose people are putting on things and not really knowing 228 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 why. So people might be using lots of 229 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,680 what we call actives. So we've got our three steps, 230 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:59,040 our cleanser, moisturiser, SPF. If you wanted to add in an 231 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,080 active, what what would you be adding in and why? 232 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,560 So my active would be vitamin C because that's a great 233 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,840 antioxidant. So it's going to help protect 234 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,240 your skin from, you know, the pollution and it actually works 235 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,360 in synergy with your SPF. So that's one of my favourite 236 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,520 actives. Now Vitamin C is great but it 237 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,080 depends how it's formulated. It also depends on your skin 238 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,680 type. Some people find it quite 239 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:28,040 irritating and it can be quite stingy and make your skin quite 240 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,400 red to use initially when you first start using it. 241 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,960 And as with all actives, they can do that. 242 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,600 So I would say yes, doing too much can be bad and no one needs 243 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,160 to add in every single active under the sun to, to, to do 244 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,560 anything to their skin. And there's lots of products out 245 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:51,840 there which you know, could potentially be harsh for your 246 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,480 skin type. If you're, if you are 247 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,000 experiencing overuse of products or your skin has broken out or 248 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,080 it's become really dry, flaky, etcetera. 249 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Work out what your basics are. Go back to the three-step basics 250 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,960 and then work out what you don't need, and then add in slowly if 251 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,200 if need be. That's such good advice. 252 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,680 I'm with you as well that I've discovered vitamin C about a 253 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,920 year and a half ago and I genuinely think it's transformed 254 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,160 like it's been really, really good, but as we know, it's not 255 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,520 the same for everybody. No, it's not. 256 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 And there are different formulations and different 257 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,200 brands have different types of vitamin C To to target those 258 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,240 different skin types, it can be helpful to look for those 259 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,680 specific acne prone or oily skin types or drier skin types 260 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,440 specific labels on on the product. 261 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,960 So we're going to go into a little section, which I'm going 262 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,680 to call worth it or waste. I, I hope it will be fun. 263 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Let's see, I'm going to say a few of the trending items or 264 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,360 skin care must haves that I've seen recently. 265 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,200 And I would like you to say whether you think they're worth 266 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,280 the hype or whether you think it's a waste. 267 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,680 OK, and I'm allowed to give an explanation. 268 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Yes, OK, yes, you are. She's. 269 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Not going to play if she's not able to talk. 270 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,400 About it, No, I think the reason we need you is because we need 271 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,760 the evidence behind it. So absolutely explain away, OK? 272 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,200 For it. OK. 273 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,680 So the first one is LED face masks. 274 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Oh, can I say I'm on the fence with this one? 275 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Yeah. So potentially worth it, but I 276 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,720 don't have one. Is that helpful? 277 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,760 I think so. So they, the research behind 278 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,760 these is mainly done on in clinic LED devices and there's 279 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,680 all different wavelengths, which if you're a physicist you'll 280 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,200 get, but everyone else is a bit like, oh gosh, what wavelengths 281 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,560 do I use for what? And then on top of the 282 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,000 wavelengths, there's different lights, there's red light, blue 283 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,080 light, etcetera. And I think there's other lights 284 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,200 now coming out. So they've got a sound kind of 285 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,560 basis to them and why they would work. 286 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,480 My kind of caveat is the price point of some of these, they can 287 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,600 be quite expensive. The second thing is, is if 288 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,000 you're not doing your basics of using a sunscreen, for example, 289 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,440 every single day, you don't need to bother with the LED masks 290 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,400 because you're just undoing all the work that it would do. 291 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,320 And the third thing is, is that it they can make certain 292 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,560 conditions worse as in certain skin conditions. 293 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,360 So things like melasma, which is hyperpigmentational and it can 294 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,680 be called a pregnancy mask. A lot of ladies see it related 295 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:02,080 to their hormone changes or a skin condition called rosacea 296 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,079 where people can get quite flushed and they could have 297 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,560 pimples and spots. So we know that that's triggered 298 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,200 by heat and spicy foods, alcohol. 299 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:16,040 So those masks, although they don't get very hot, they, the, 300 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:21,200 they, the kind of the infrared heat or the LED light that is 301 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,440 applied can potentially make those conditions worse. 302 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,360 So I would say I I personally wouldn't spend money on it. 303 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,360 Thank you. I think that's useful, honestly. 304 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,200 Let's talk about retinol or retinoid. 305 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Yes. So retinoids, so we've got 306 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,200 retinol which is your like first step, like the baby steps if you 307 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,840 really want to try. And then you've got retinals 308 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,360 with the A and then you've got your things that are 309 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,360 prescription based like tretinoin for example. 310 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,160 So they're like heavy duty each as you go up the ladder, there's 311 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,880 more increased risk of peeling those retinol uglies or purging, 312 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,000 etcetera. So the retinols are quite mild. 313 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,480 The dose isn't as high as what you'd have in tretinoin, for 314 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,720 example. And so they're, I'd say they're 315 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,880 useful and they can help with things like fine lines, 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,880 wrinkles, uneven texture, a lot of the skin concerns that most 317 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,800 people have or want to help to have help with. 318 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,120 So I would say worth it as long as you're using your sunscreen. 319 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Very important. Those who are in that phase of 320 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,920 trying to conceive or pregnant breastfeeding retinoids are one 321 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,880 of the ones we say definite no to. 322 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,400 We know that oral retinoids are unsafe and we know that there 323 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,600 can be some absorption into the bloodstream and they can harm 324 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,040 the baby. So we say absolutely not, don't 325 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:53,200 use those retinoids of any kind. But Cuchiole is another active 326 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,800 which is a plant based 1 and that's it's like a retinoid 327 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,360 alternative. Yeah, it's B AKUCHIOL bakuchi of 328 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,760 it, so it can help improve, you know, fine lines, wrinkles, 329 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,400 texture and things like that. So it's an alternative if people 330 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,520 wish to use, use. Yeah, definitely. 331 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 I think particularly when you are going into a phase which is 332 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,320 potentially quite stressful and might lead to quite a lot of 333 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,120 sleep deprivation, it's about, you know, doing something for 334 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:25,600 you and sort of maintaining your own identity and a bit of your, 335 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,200 well, as much of your self-confidence as you can at 336 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,240 that stage as well. Isn't it drinking collagen every 337 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,680 morning? If this is really tricky because 338 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,320 more evidence is emerging on on the benefits of oral collagen, 339 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,400 but there's not enough to definitely say yes, it's the 340 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:52,000 100% improves things. So the evidence isn't great for 341 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,320 them. However, there are people that 342 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,520 use it anecdotally and personal experiences and say I started 343 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,680 taking that collagen and it's really made my hair nice or made 344 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,200 my skin feel nice. So yes, use with caution. 345 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,200 Don't spend lots of money on these things. 346 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Really helpful. Another one which might be 347 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,360 divisive. Yeah, I will say that I don't 348 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,800 use any of the ones we've spoken about so far. 349 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,920 I do quite like this one, which is guasha, if I'm saying that 350 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,880 correctly. Yeah, yeah. 351 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:32,400 But you know what, So guasha is rooted in like traditional 352 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Chinese medicine, and it's meant to be, from my understanding, is 353 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,800 meant to be like muscle scrubbing. 354 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,320 So it's meant to help with alleviating pain from muscles. 355 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,520 It can help a little bit like lymphatic drainage. 356 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,080 So I think if you know what you're doing and you've got your 357 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,120 technique sorted, go for it. People think it's going to 358 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:57,680 completely snatch their faces and, you know, give them 10 359 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,600 years of their youthful skin bag. 360 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 I doubt it's going to give you a long term snatch look. 361 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,360 So some people find that they have puffiness around the eyes 362 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,600 when they wake up in the morning. 363 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,640 I mean, who doesn't? We're lying horizontally. 364 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Our fluid is literally, you know, going going to do that. 365 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,440 But I think it's quite a soothing thing for people to do. 366 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,000 And if that's going to help you feel a bit more like yourself 367 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,320 and a bit more alive and, you know, happy, go for it. 368 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Be realistic with the expectations. 369 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,560 So you're telling me that those videos that I get served on 370 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,480 Instagram where somebody's got a pencil in their mouth and 371 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,160 they're doing all of that, like up, down, side to side, that's 372 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,720 probably not going to work either. 373 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,400 What pencil in their mouth you're going to send me do? 374 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,240 I'm going to have to do a demonstration. 375 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,880 Is this what muscle activation or something? 376 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,320 Yeah. You know, so this is a lip 377 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,880 gloss. They'll get their lip gloss and 378 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:56,520 they'll be like. Oh my gosh, I mean, that's great 379 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,080 if you're going to exercise the muscles, but if I suppose if 380 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,840 you're talking to people and you're smiling and you know, 381 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,240 being rational full throughout the day, you're probably using 382 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:13,640 all your muscles. I that's great, but part of skin 383 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,720 ageing and ageing in general, which is a privilege is comes 384 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,400 from bone resorption. So your bones start to, oh, this 385 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,960 sounds really awful, but crumble essentially like they get 386 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,720 rewarded. So, you know, like the jawline 387 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,360 gets softer and you, and what happens then is the fat pads 388 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,480 start reducing in size as well. So the the the skin doesn't have 389 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,880 essentially like the architecture to keep it in 390 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,920 place. And that's why we find that we 391 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,880 get gels or the sagging on sagging skin because the bones 392 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,760 are results. So the muscles are great to work 393 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,640 on, but you know that that's not essentially going to help later 394 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,720 down the line. March. 395 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Yeah, I mean. If your time watch some TV but. 396 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,680 You're so right that actually if you're just sitting and having 397 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,880 conversations and laughing and. My jaws are hurting now. 398 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,400 I've been smiling so my eyes are sore, which is good, good. 399 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,760 We've done exercises in the matter. 400 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Of thank God I don't need to do my 10 minutes with my pencil in 401 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,360 my mouth tonight. I don't do that. 402 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,280 I need. To can you please send me these? 403 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,120 I need to watch what's going on. When I next see one, I'm sending 404 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,360 it to you because I see these like extremely chiselled 405 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,080 Scandinavian women and I'm there with my big cheeks and I'm like, 406 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,480 I need to do this. You've got. 407 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,880 Lovely. Cheeks lovely comparison is the 408 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,840 thief of joy. Isn't it exactly micro needling? 409 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:47,280 Worth it or a waste? So I think micro needling can be 410 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,960 really helpful in terms of, you know, stimulating collagen 411 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,640 essentially, you know, creates micro channels or micro injuries 412 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,200 in the skin to try and help your blood kind of rush to that 413 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,240 place. So you're kind of flushed and 414 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,920 all the kind of rejuvenating skin cells come to the rescue to 415 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,400 try and help re remodel and kind of help that that skin that's 416 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,680 been damaged. And so I think on the face, I 417 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920 would say in clinic treatments are better. 418 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,400 I know they can be expensive, but there's specific devices and 419 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,360 the lengths of needles, et cetera. 420 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,960 There are some people that do micro needling and derma 421 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,640 stamping of the scalp and I think because the scalp skin is 422 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,120 thicker, it's slightly safer that if one wanted to do it at 423 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:38,520 home, it would be safer I think to try that on and scalp skin. 424 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,200 But as with all these things, you have to ensure that you've 425 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 you've properly, you know, sterilised the tools that you 426 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,160 are using and ensure that the needles don't get too blunt 427 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,400 because that can be damaging as well. 428 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Yeah, that's so interesting. Spot dots. 429 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,400 Oh, is that I actually like these. 430 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:02,480 And because if you're a picker like me, they're quite good to 431 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,960 to stop you from picking. And I think if you've got severe 432 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,960 acne, I wouldn't plaster them all over the face. 433 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,080 They're meant to be little dots for, you know, small breakouts. 434 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,200 Some of them come with added ingredients like salicylic acid, 435 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,440 which again helps unblock those pores and helps with kind of 436 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,640 exfoliating the skin gently, which I think is great. 437 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Some of them are just bland spot dots and if you're going to do 438 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,240 that I'd say don't waste your money on those. 439 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Just go and buy some good old fashioned hydrocolloid dressing 440 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,080 in these big packs. You can cut them to size and 441 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,640 then stick them on because they're probably going to be 442 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,440 cheaper and they'll last you longer. 443 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,280 But if you want medicated ones like with the salicylic acid, go 444 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,880 for the spot dots if you want. Love that great tip. 445 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,200 I think I know what you're going to say about this one. 446 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,160 SPF. I mean, yes, every day. 447 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Every single day, yes, and reapply throughout the day. 448 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Yeah, throughout the day. And even if you're working from 449 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,400 home opposite a lovely window or you're going to go for your 10 450 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,880 minute walk outside at lunch, SPF. 451 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,000 And, and it's not just about SPF you, there are other, some 452 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,920 protective measures which we are very bad in the UK at taking 453 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 because we think, oh, we'll take all our sunscreen abroad and 454 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,240 wear our lovely hats when we go abroad and sitting in the shade 455 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,080 when we're, we're on holiday. We don't think to do those 456 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,880 things in the UK. And actually the UV index today 457 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,120 has gone up to 5 from about 10:30 till about 2:30. 458 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320 And that's quite that's that's quite high. 459 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:48,280 So what is SPF like in really simple terms? 460 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Apart from protecting us from getting sunburn, what is it 461 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,040 doing that's beneficial to our skin? 462 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Yeah. So you've got SPF, the skin 463 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,680 protection factor, so how long that sunscreen will protect your 464 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,920 skin from burning. And then you've got, you know, 465 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,400 the star rating. So, and that's usually for UVA, 466 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,960 this is very simplified. So UVA is thought of as ageing, 467 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,200 UVB is thought of as burning. UVA can actually travel through 468 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,680 windows and things like that. So what you want to look for in 469 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,560 an SPF or sunscreen is a high protection factor. 470 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,320 So you've got SPF 50 and then a high UVA rating and a lot more. 471 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Sunscreens these days are getting sophisticated. 472 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,280 So they're also looking at high energy visible blue light, which 473 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,040 also comes from the sun and causes things like pigmentation 474 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,360 problems as well. So they're becoming a little bit 475 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,160 more high tech with the philtres that they're using. 476 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Ideally, I'd say everyone should use you, you know, SPF 50, high 477 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800 UVA rating and when you use that every day. 478 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,400 I definitely need to do this more, but one of the reasons why 479 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,720 I don't, which I think is one of the reasons why a lot of people 480 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,160 don't, is because so many sun creams either feel really greasy 481 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,600 or they make me get spots. Yeah. 482 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,480 How can we avoid this? Yeah, so I'm there with you on 483 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,240 this one. I hate that feeling of 484 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,320 heaviness, especially on the face. 485 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,040 So looking for SPFS or sunscreens which have like oil 486 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,360 free in them or they're like fluid gel type textures is quite 487 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,160 good. And looking for those that say 488 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,000 non comedogenic, which means non pore blocking is helpful as 489 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,960 well. And then there's the also the 490 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,680 chemical versus mineral sunscreen debate, which we 491 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,680 haven't even touched on, but. Chemical. 492 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Screens, they're great because essentially what they do is they 493 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,440 absorb the philtres and then they stop you from kind of 494 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 reacting to the philtres essentially. 495 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Whereas mineral sunscreens block the kind of UV rays. 496 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,600 It's kind of deciding which one you want to use. 497 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960 The mineral sunscreens can be a bit heavier. 498 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,680 They can leave a white cast on your skin, which is why people 499 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520 then don't like them. We tend to recommend them more 500 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,520 in pregnancy because there's thoughts that the chemical ones 501 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,760 can get more absorbed into the bloodstream. 502 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920 And again, it's a bit of a trial and error to see what your skin 503 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,400 type is, what sunscreen is going to work for you. 504 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,040 And there's some good, good ones out there and you know, I've 505 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240 tested quite a lot of them. Things like La Roche per SE have 506 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480 a good one there and Thalios is a good one. 507 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Eucerin dry touch, I think they've got an oil free one 508 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720 there. There's a Helio Care one, which 509 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080 is a tinted mineral sunscreen as well. 510 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800 And there's a Murad 1. Again, a little bit on the 511 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,600 expensive side of things, but there are there are loads of 512 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,280 sunscreens and there's like Serapine, there's like a whole 513 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,960 range of sunscreens that you can test and try. 514 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Amazing. Just quickly on on the sunscreen 515 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,560 question, one person asked whether there's a need to look 516 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640 out for your skin more particularly thinking about some 517 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,680 protection and beauty spots or moles when you are either doing 518 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,920 trying to conceive or pregnant. Yes. 519 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800 So yes. So actually we know that 520 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,760 pregnancy or trying to conceive with all those hormones abroad 521 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 can actually cause a change in moles. 522 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,400 So yes, being aware of your own moles pre pregnancy is great and 523 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,800 then keeping an eye on them during pregnancy is also 524 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,760 important. And we use the ABCDE and kind 525 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920 of, you know, pneumonic for moles. 526 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,720 So that's A is asymmetry, B is border, C is varying colours, D 527 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560 is diameter. Usually we say more than six 528 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,320 millimetres, but you don't need to go around measuring all your 529 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 moles, especially if you're a really moly person and E is 530 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,320 evolving. So any change. 531 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,560 So if you've had a mole before and you think, oh, that doesn't 532 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,080 quite look like what it did in those summer photos last year, 533 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,320 it's always best to get it checked out. 534 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,080 And we would rather see people reassure you and reassure us 535 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,880 that it's it's an OK mole rather than you sit there, worry about 536 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720 it and not not seek advice, you know? 537 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Yeah, Thank you. That's so clear. 538 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,840 The final one in our Worth it All waste is preventative Botox. 539 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:40,080 So preventative Botox, I would say waste because so it's Botox 540 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520 is a brand name, it's botulinum toxin. 541 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,560 What it does is it freezes the muscles to prevent us from 542 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,720 having lines that we don't want. So if you're not seeing lines 543 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,480 that are static and that are actually there and you think, 544 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,920 oh, I can see these now and and they definitely weren't there, I 545 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,960 would say you don't need to get the Botox done. 546 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,800 And bear in mind, none of this is necessary. 547 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,440 You don't have to get any Yeah, treatments or procedures carried 548 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,360 out. This is all optional. 549 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,040 And bear in mind that if you start doing it when you're 550 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,440 trying to prevent something that hasn't occurred yet, it's an 551 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,040 upkeep. So Botox lasts about three to 552 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,960 four months. So actually you'd have to then 553 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,200 get another one done in three to four months time and then 554 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,200 another. And it's an upkeep and it's 555 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,000 expensive as well. But overall, no one needs to get 556 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760 these things done if you're going to get these procedures 557 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,760 done, choosing A practitioner, looking at their qualifications, 558 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,480 ensuring that you're able to ask those questions and feel 559 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,560 comfortable asking those questions and someone reassures 560 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,240 you and not just saying yes, yes, yes, we'll do all this to 561 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,640 your face. And you think why didn't come in 562 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560 for that? You know, we'll do all these 563 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400 additional things. I think choosing A practitioner 564 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,600 that's sensible and suitable for you is really important and that 565 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520 we'll have that discussion with you and also be able to tell you 566 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,960 no. I love it. 567 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,480 Such good advice. And yeah, you're completely 568 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,200 right. I feel like that is such an easy 569 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,840 kind of red flag to spot. If you're going somewhere and 570 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,280 they're trying to upsell you, maybe no, just don't. 571 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,720 Whereas actually maybe it's a good sign if they're saying, Are 572 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,680 you sure you want to do this? Exactly. 573 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,840 I think we should talk a bit more about actives because we do 574 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,200 have quite a few questions on this. 575 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,800 Do you have any advice about how you can safely introduce a new 576 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,480 product or active ingredient without it causing a flare up or 577 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,960 being too much for your skin? So we would say test them out 578 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,880 first and then see how you get on. 579 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,800 If you're going to use a new product, but you've been having 580 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,720 lots of breakouts with other products. 581 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Usually we recommend like patch testing. 582 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 And people think of that, that when you go to the hairdressers 583 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,960 to get your hair dyed and they put a little, you know, bit of 584 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,600 dye on the back of the ear. So similarly to that, you can 585 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,280 either do it on your jawline or you can do it on the back of 586 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,040 like of your forearm. And you pop any product on there 587 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,679 that you want to try for the three days, ideally in the same 588 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:21,199 spot and ideally not wash it off and see if that produces any 589 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,600 reaction for you rather than going in straight all over. 590 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920 So you know, when you get a little sample or something to 591 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920 try, I always think why would someone do that? 592 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,320 Like give a little sachet of something or a little sample of 593 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,440 something. But actually samples are great 594 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,400 if you have sensitive skin or you're prone to breakouts to 595 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800 actually test out and to try it on the jawline for the three 596 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,280 days. And that gives you a little 597 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,800 sense of, but whether you're going to react to it or not, I 598 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560 think it's quite a helpful way of testing out a product. 599 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,239 How would you feel about doing a bit of a a mini a mini 600 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,960 assessment of which active is appropriate for which skin 601 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,400 concern? Yeah, we can have a go, sure. 602 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,160 OK, so one that we got loads of questions about and one that I 603 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,320 am very invested in is hormonal acne or spots especially around 604 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,880 your jaw or chin. I suppose it's the age of the 605 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,080 person and the skin type and then why you're developing these 606 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,880 acne spots or breakouts on your jawline. 607 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,440 We know a lot of us get spots around our period and it's 608 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,240 completely normal as as not nice as it is, it is completely 609 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,040 normal. And then it's like if you know 610 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,080 that's occurring, what you can do about it. 611 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,240 Just changing up the basics can sometimes help listen to your 612 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,320 skin. So you will very quickly 613 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,160 realise, oh, I'm breaking out here. 614 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,560 Why is it? Well, my skin is feeling quite 615 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,240 dry and I think listening to those things and sometimes 616 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:57,920 changing up your routine from I'm going to not use this harsh 617 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000 cleanser because it's quite drying, maybe I'll use one which 618 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,120 is a little bit more moisturising. 619 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800 Might be a helpful change to make rather than adding in 620 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960 something new knowing actually my skin gets a bit greasier 621 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,120 coming up to my period. I won't use that lovely thick 622 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440 moisturiser. What I'm going to do is use a 623 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,840 thinner, more fluid or gel texture moisturiser, which will 624 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,560 kind of help with the sort of reduce the oil production or the 625 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,720 sebum that we have on our skin. So I think sometimes making 626 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,880 those little changes to your basics can can help. 627 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,280 And then in terms of actives, it really depends on where you are 628 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200 in your stage of life, what you want to do. 629 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,280 Are you already, for example, using something like a retinoid 630 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,560 or is that something you want to include as part of the acne? 631 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,520 As dermatologists, we use retin retinoids to help with the 632 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,280 treatment of acne, and that can be topical retinoids. 633 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,320 So things like we use Differin, adapoline and sometimes 634 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200 tretinoin as well. And we also give oral 635 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,440 medications which are hospital only medications by 636 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,760 dermatologists for treating quite severe acne. 637 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,200 I like the idea of taking the preventative route because I 638 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,400 would imagine that specifically for hormonal acne, a lot of that 639 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,280 is around the time of your cycle. 640 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,320 There are a few who have mentioned having that kind of 641 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,320 around your chin or area acne whilst they've been on hormonal 642 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,320 fertility medication or even during pregnancy. 643 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,320 Yes, So there are, there are other actives that people can 644 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,880 include and things like you know, like your salicylic acid, 645 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,440 as long as it's not in a high concentration can be quite good 646 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,440 for things like clogged pores, blackheads to try and help 647 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,720 exfoliate the skin in a gentle way rather than using. 648 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:58,320 I don't know if you have the era of the scrubs and rather than 649 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 using those they are very harsh on the skin. 650 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,880 I would not advise those at all. I have one of my sisters, Fred 651 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,760 still uses her St. Ives speech scrub and I just. 652 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,480 Don't have you such a throwback? Every time I see her I feel like 653 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,200 a feeling of dread. So sticking to things like you 654 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,480 know, chemical exfoliation like your salicylic acid as long as 655 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320 it's under AI. Think it's 2% concentration. 656 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,400 Try once or twice a week and see it you see if that can help and 657 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,840 it can quite be quite helpful for those blocked and pause and 658 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,640 help with, you know, breakouts. Love that that was definitely on 659 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,080 the list. And then you've got your 660 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,200 bacuccio which you could try. I'm going to put that in the 661 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,240 show notes because I feel like that's going to change people's 662 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,880 lives. I'm very excited about it. 663 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,840 And what about somebody who has got dry or dehydrated skin? 664 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,280 Or what do they say? A compromised skin barrier? 665 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,920 That is definitely what I have been diagnosed with before. 666 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,640 So they're slightly two different things. 667 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,280 So your drier skin can be a compromised skin barrier, but a 668 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,400 compromised skin skin barrier can also mean lots of breakouts 669 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,000 and sensitivity and, and reactions. 670 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,160 So your, your skin barrier. I'll, I'll do that one first. 671 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,280 Then we'll go into the dry skin is if you think of it as bricks. 672 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,640 And then between the bricks we have mortar and then on top of 673 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,800 those bricks we have a lovely layer of like lipids and all the 674 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840 moisture that our skin and the oils that our skin naturally 675 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,320 produces. A compromised skin barrier 676 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,240 essentially means that you can get increased water loss and 677 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,320 increase entry of things like bugs and pollutants and things 678 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,320 which can then make your skin dry, increase sensitivity. 679 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,680 You can even react to things that you may not have reacted to 680 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200 before, things like fragrances, for example. 681 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,400 And those can all happen at different stages of your life. 682 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,360 Or if you're using things like harsh physical scrubs or harsh 683 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,000 actives or overuse of actives, you know that can compromise 684 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000 your skin barrier. And then you've got your dry 685 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 skin. And that can be just dry skin 686 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,160 and you're prone to having dry skin. 687 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,960 And that's something that you have of all have always had or 688 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,760 it could be. You know, in winter we all tend 689 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,480 to get drier skin and we've got lovely central heating on, then 690 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,560 we go out in the cold and that can simply make your skin drier. 691 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,400 So yes, those there's they're 2 slightly different categories, 692 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,880 but they can. Kind of that makes sense. 693 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,680 And you can have acne skin or acne prone skin and you can 694 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,640 still have a compromised skin barrier, if that makes sense. 695 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,480 So what ingredients would you be looking for in those cases? 696 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:53,680 So if your skin barrier is compromised, I'd say stripping 697 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,160 back on all the kind of actives, back to your three steps 698 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,480 cleanser, moisturiser and SPF and actually looking is this 699 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,200 moisturiser for my skin type? Is this moisturiser sensible? 700 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,960 IE does it have fragrances in it and should I maybe stop the 701 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,680 fragrance? 1 Sometimes it can be a simple 702 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,880 ingredient within is causing a problem or someone somewhere 703 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,200 down the line they've always bought the same moisturiser, for 704 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,480 example, someone's formulated it differently or changed it 705 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,400 slightly and then the drier skin types again. 706 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,240 Moisturiser is great and and maybe not using like a harsh 707 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,320 cleanser, so something you might not want to use as many 708 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,440 salicylic acids and things like that. 709 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:42,600 But you may wish to use things like hyaluronic acid, which is a 710 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:49,640 lovely water based, you know acid and it can help under a 711 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,000 layer of moisturiser lock in a bit more moisture for for those 712 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,600 dryer skin skin types. That's brilliant. 713 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640 I never knew that about all the different acids. 714 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,760 I just kind of assumed they would all do the same thing. 715 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000 No, they all have slightly different properties. 716 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,520 So yes, they they do slightly different things. 717 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,320 So the next skin issue I have on my list is dull skin and someone 718 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,960 has asked what's the best thing to do in your 40s for glowing 719 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,640 skin? That's a great question. 720 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,480 So I'd say what do they mean by dull skin? 721 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,640 Is it more that they want that glowy glass skin? 722 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,560 Because I'm going to stop you right there and say there's no 723 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,720 such thing as glass skin because I think that's a little bit of a 724 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,880 marketing kind of tool. And I think, I think glass skin, 725 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,720 it's not an overnight thing. You can't apply something onto 726 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,680 your skin overnight and expect the next day to wake up with 727 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,240 glowy glass skin. It might give you temporary 728 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,960 hydration or a shine or a Sheen to your skin, but nothing's 729 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,160 going to alter your skin skin texture appearance over 730 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,840 overnight. In terms of you know, what you 731 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,520 could be doing is actually cleansing properly sounds really 732 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960 silly. Cleansing properly, ensuring a 733 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,800 double cleanse can help remove the excess, you know, dead skin 734 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,880 build up. Adding in potentially your 735 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,360 vitamin C can have a brightening effect as well as that 736 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,240 antioxidant effect. Sometimes certain acids can help 737 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,600 speed up that kind of exfoliation of the dead skin 738 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,760 cells. And then things like retinoids, 739 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:38,720 one of our most evidence based skin care products and they 740 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,680 actually help with that kind of skin cell turnover. 741 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,560 So, so you get that kind of the dead skin cells shed quicker and 742 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,080 they they reveal the lovely new skin underneath which can give 743 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,800 which can give you that kind of glowy appearance. 744 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680 That being said, don't introduce everything at the same time, 745 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,120 please. I'd say go slow with those and 746 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,640 to just gently build up. Don't sort of plaster it on 747 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,840 every single night for the first week because you will be 748 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,440 suffering the following week. Yeah, I have also experienced 749 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,800 that first hand. One more on this, which is fine 750 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,080 line, fine lines and wrinkles. Is there an active that you 751 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,760 would recommend for people who are concerned about that? 752 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,040 Yeah, so again, retinoids is the kind of gold standard to help 753 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,280 with fine lines and wrinkles. And again, you don't those 754 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,120 lines, laughter lines are there. They show that you have enjoyed 755 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,920 your life. But if you wish to, you know, 756 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,080 help them improve the appearance of them. 757 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,560 Retinoids can help but also hydration of the skin. 758 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:49,400 I think, you know, these, these fine lines can sometimes look 759 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,280 much worse after a day of, you know, you've not drunk any 760 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,560 water, you've had about 10 cups of coffee because the kids might 761 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600 not have slept. And you think, my gosh, I don't 762 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,720 think I've, you know, had any water today. 763 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,520 And sometimes it can just be hydration both internally and 764 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,880 externally on the skin. So sometimes things like, again, 765 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,320 your hyaluronic acids or a good moisturiser to help improve that 766 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,760 the skin barriers, hydration can help improve the appearance of 767 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,160 these of these fine lines and wrinkles as well. 768 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600 If you don't want to use retinoids or if you're again 769 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,720 trying to conceive pregnant breastfeeding. 770 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,920 I talked to Sonia Sharma. I know that there were going to 771 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,320 be so many people listening to this podcast and going. 772 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,520 I just want to know what you use. 773 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,560 Help me. What I will say is for anyone 774 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,960 listening, if you do want more, Sonia's Instagram page is a 775 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,360 great place to go. But for now, I wondered if we 776 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,920 could just go through questions where you are very much allowed 777 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920 to mention product names or brand names. 778 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960 My first one would be your top budget buy. 779 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,120 So there's so many good cleansers out there. 780 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,320 I do work with Boots but so there's so many great options in 781 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,200 Boots and things like Cetaphil cleanser is great and they are 782 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,720 non fragranced. They used to have different 783 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,280 variations. They've got foam to cleanser and 784 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,960 they've got things like salicylic acid as well, which we 785 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,320 didn't mention body hair, but you can use on the body as well. 786 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,480 If you've got things like dark elbows or knees. 787 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,600 Stereo V are really good as well. 788 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,480 They've got some lovely gentle cleanses. 789 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,240 I personally use Event and I've been using them for years. 790 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,920 I love their Milky cleanser because my skin tends to be if I 791 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,720 use quite harsh cleansers can can get quite dry and it I can 792 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,200 get broke. So their Milky cleanser is great 793 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,000 because it takes away the makeup and I actually use that one as a 794 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,160 double cleanse. But there's great micellar 795 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560 waters as well. If people are, you know, wearing 796 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,800 a lot of mascara or eye makeup. Bioderma do a lovely one, 797 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,600 Garnier do a lovely one as well. And then we're moving on to 798 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,760 moisturisers. I love La Roche Passe's 799 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,760 moisturisers for acne prone acne skin. 800 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,800 They've got a lovely range called efficler, which you know, 801 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640 our patients find really helpful, those who are on 802 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,400 treatments for acne and they're that range is really lovely. 803 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,400 It's gentle to use again event have a lovely Clenault range as 804 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,000 well. And again, Cetaphil, I mean, all 805 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,080 of these have lovely, you know, moisturisers and I'd say within 806 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,200 that, if you're dry skin, you need a slightly thicker 1, you 807 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,840 know, to to use and then SPFI don't think you need to be 808 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,720 spending more than, you know, £25 on a good tube of SPF. 809 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,120 Look for your SPF 50 and a high UVA rating. 810 00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:50,200 But then there's ones which also target, you know, high energy 811 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,480 visible blue light. So if you're concerned with more 812 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,840 pigmentation, melasma, that might be something to look for. 813 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,520 And if you're of the skin tone that tends to hyperpigment more, 814 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,880 you might want a tinted mineral sunscreen, for example. 815 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,880 And what about worthy investments? 816 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,360 I think your investment should be in yourself. 817 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960 Does that make sense? I think you spend your 10 818 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,680 minutes in the morning getting ready and all you need to do is 819 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,360 cleanse, moisturise, SPF. So actually investing in a good 820 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,280 SPF that you like, that you will use and that you find nice to 821 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,040 use, I think it is. That's my worthy investment. 822 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,320 I This is like my biggest takeaway of this episode. 823 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,600 I'm actually going to religiously use mine every day 824 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,240 because right now it's more of a if it's a sunny day and I 825 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:43,280 remember and I'm going to be outside a lot. 826 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,320 I know. I'm sorry, I really AM. 827 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,640 I think in the UK, as soon as we see the sun, we all just want to 828 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,800 enjoy it, don't we? We don't get yeah, but when it 829 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,840 comes out, we really love it and it's great. 830 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,760 It boosts our mood. Like everyone's happier, nicer 831 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,480 and we want to get out there. But I think getting into that 832 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,920 routine and teaching your kids about it from a young age is 833 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,680 really is really important. I think, I think there'll be a 834 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,680 lot of people listening to this who are like, yes, I'm on board 835 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280 with this now. Doctor Sonia Sharma, where can 836 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,480 everybody find you? Where can we find more of you? 837 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,520 Well, I'm on Instagram, I'm also on TikTok and my DMS are always 838 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,360 open. So if you've got queries or 839 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,240 like, oh, you know, you want to check out if a product might be 840 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:28,760 suitable for you, I'm happy to do that. 841 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,080 I can't give personal advice and I think that's really important 842 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,440 for me to say because obviously I would want to see you. 843 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040 I would want to, you know, properly take that history from 844 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,600 you, see your skin, see what it's like and then give advice. 845 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,760 I'm happy to give product recommendations in terms of this 846 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,320 is what I've tried and things like that, but it's hard to 847 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,720 give, you know, personalised advice. 848 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,920 If anybody has real concerns, where should they? 849 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,160 What is their next step? It depends on what exactly the 850 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,760 skin concern is. You know, if you're suffering 851 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,160 with your acne to the point where it is making you feel bad 852 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,000 about yourself, you are low in mood, definitely see your GP in 853 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,840 the first instance and they can refer onwards to a 854 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,880 dermatologist. It's so important for us to help 855 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,960 make people feel better in the skin that they're in, if that 856 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,400 makes sense. Yeah. 857 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,120 I completely agree. Thank you so much for today. 858 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,120 I've absolutely loved this conversation. 859 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,360 I feel like I've learned so much and will not be overhauling my 860 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,160 skin care routine, but I will definitely be focusing on the 861 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,480 stuff that really matters, so thank you for that. 862 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,400 No, thank you for having me. It's been great. 863 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,880 I'm very happy to come on at another time to to chat more. 864 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,760 So no, this is really lovely. I'd love that the next time we 865 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,160 can talk about all my hair woes. That would be very cathartic. 866 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,720 Thank you so much, Sonia. It's been great. 867 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:56,760 Thank you so much.